Dividend or Dividends (was: Re: What does "Int" mean?)
On Monday 1 February 2010, Derek Atkins wrote: > >> There was also one time 'Div' in the portfolio action items. The comment > >> with it said this to mean 'Dividend', so I changed that one as well. But > >> in other places in GnuCash, the word 'Dividends' is used and not > >> 'Dividend'. So I wonder, should the action item also be in the plural > >> form ? > > > > I overlooked the plural form. I think it is better to unify them to > > the plural form > > as long as it is not strange. > > > > (I can't understand a nuance of English expression.) > > I don't think that singular v. plural matters in this particular case. > I think it's reasonable to choose one and stick with it. I don't have a > personal preference which one we choose. > Looking further through the source, I find around 300 references to "Dividends", "Dividend" or "Dividend Income". So both singular and plural form are used throughout GnuCash in different contexts. As we are talking about the action menu in the register and it doesn't really seem to matter, I think I'll stick with the singular form, simply because it's one character shorter. So, unless someone comes up with a good motivation to use the plural form, it will remain singular. Geert ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
[patch] libofx creates unbalanced tx on importing dividends bug 164645
The patch is attached to the bug report http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ show_bug.cgi?id=164645 gnc-ofx-import.c treats OFX_REINVEST (a transaction combining the payment of a dividend with the reinvestment of that dividend) and OFX_INCOME (a transaction of a security paying a dividend, resulting in cash being added to the parent brokerage account) the same despite the fact that, at least for my ofx downloads, the transaction amounts have opposite signs. The effect was that non-reinvested cash dividends were imported into gnucash unbalanced. The patch fixes the behavior for me in 1.9.1. (Though I'm sure the coding style can only be considered brute force.) No more cursed hand editing of dividend transactions nor transactions added to "Imbalance- USD"!!! -- David Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac 10.4.5, gcc 4.0.1 ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.
Bill Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > date descr acct bought sold price value totshare balance > 9/14/00 Price 15 50 750 > 9/15/00 Stock Div 250 0 75 0 > 9/15/00 Price 10 75 750 For some of these things, I think we're going to have to consider a special "tag" field (something like the "action" field, but with documented semantics and a fixed set of values that we control). Without this, it seems like it's going to be difficult to generate reports that know exactly what really happened... -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930 ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.
- Original Message - From: "Bill Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 2:44 PM Subject: Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc. > Hi, > I've been playing around with how to enter stock > transactions like splits, stock dividends, mergers, etc. > After much trying, I think the most logical way of handling > these is to have a zero price transaction in which you > buy (or sell) some number of shares as reflected by > the stock dividend. For example, if I owned 50 shares > of ABC corp which gave a stock dividend of 25 shares, > (3-for-2 split), my stock account for abc would look like > In Germany, stock splits/merges usually involve a change in the so called WKN (Wertpapierkennummer, Security ID Number). I think we should store such numbers, too, and implement special functions for such things as splits, merges, dividends, etc. Jens ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.
Hi, I've been playing around with how to enter stock transactions like splits, stock dividends, mergers, etc. After much trying, I think the most logical way of handling these is to have a zero price transaction in which you buy (or sell) some number of shares as reflected by the stock dividend. For example, if I owned 50 shares of ABC corp which gave a stock dividend of 25 shares, (3-for-2 split), my stock account for abc would look like date descr acct bought sold price value totshare balance 9/14/00 Price 15 50 750 9/15/00 Stock Div 250 0 75 0 9/15/00 Price 10 75 750 I think this accurately represents what happend in the transaction, but I don't like the balance dropping to zero. Therefore, I am contemplating a change in Account.c to cause the balance of this split to be set to 750 (the previous value) much the same way entering a price without any bought or sold does not change the total shares. Also, there needs to be a minor change to the "transaction out of balance" calculation in SplitLedger.c when editing a transaction like this. At the moment, the only way to enter one of these (zero price) trasactions is to enter it from scratch. I'm perfectly willing to figure out the necessary changes, but before starting this, I wanted to know what the list thought of this idea, or if anyone had a better idea of how to deal with this sort of transaction. Also, I could update the docs to describe this method if people thought it was a good idea. Cheers, Bill Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnucash-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnumatic.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Dividends (& "standard" accounts)
> Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes it can be done by hand, but there definitely needs to be an accepted > > structure for setting up these accounts. It seems to be that there > > should be an addition to the engine to implement account association, > > because if you tried to make such a linkage in a memo field it would be > > too easy for a user to mess up the accounts. Also, with a definite > > account association structure it will be much easier to implement wizards. > > There's already a "notes" field in the account struct which is > currently unused. We've been discussing this sort of stuff off and on It's not unused -- it's the big field at the bottom of the add account and edit account windows. But, it wouldn't be a problem to add another internal data member to do the same thing you propose. dave -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends (& "standard" accounts)
Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes it can be done by hand, but there definitely needs to be an accepted > structure for setting up these accounts. It seems to be that there > should be an addition to the engine to implement account association, > because if you tried to make such a linkage in a memo field it would be > too easy for a user to mess up the accounts. Also, with a definite > account association structure it will be much easier to implement wizards. There's already a "notes" field in the account struct which is currently unused. We've been discussing this sort of stuff off and on for a while, and I think the solution that's been most positively viewed is to use a hash table of string->string in the notes field. This would allow just about any kind of extra information that we could want to put there. Plus, GLib provides a ready-to-use hash table implementation so it would be a piece of cake to put it in. Deciding on a "standard" position in the account hierarchy opens up a whole other can of worms, though: the recommended or suggested layout of a user's accounts in general. I think it makes sense to have a standard set of accounts that gets set up initially (if the user wants), including a standard set of expense and income categories, and subtrees at the top level for bank accounts and securities. A wizard would be a BIG help here; "do you own a house?" sort of questions would go a long way towards getting things set up correctly for the new user. Likewise, a set of "something big is happening" wizards would be useful, like "I just bought a house". What are people's thoughts on what a standard set of accounts should be? Bill Gribble -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
Yes it can be done by hand, but there definitely needs to be an accepted structure for setting up these accounts. It seems to be that there should be an addition to the engine to implement account association, because if you tried to make such a linkage in a memo field it would be too easy for a user to mess up the accounts. Also, with a definite account association structure it will be much easier to implement wizards. -Patrick Baker On 20 Apr 2000, Bill Gribble wrote: > Bryan Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double > > > line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is > > > a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't > > > matter what Income account you used to transfer from. > > > > > > > I'm still trying to figure this statement out. Why doesn't it matter? If I > > transfer from "dividend income" to "brokerage account", it doesn't matter > > whether I've marked it "div" or not -- there is no association with the stock > > account, so an investment report does not find the dividend. > > I think the suggestion was intended for the situation where the > dividend is reinvested. Then the transaction is from "dividend > income" to the security, so it's unambiguous. In the general case, > where the dividend is paid as a cash amount to a brokerage account, > you're out of luck. > > It seems reasonable that one needs a separate income account > associated with every dividend-producing security account. An > accountant friend of mine suggests that for tax and portfolio > evaluation purposes this is the best thing. This could be something > that's done through a "setup wizard" or some such thing; if the wizard > was smart enough to "tag" the security account with the ID of the > income account, a report could DTRT and pair up securities with their > respective dividend accounts. Until we have such a thing, it can be > done by hand. > > Bill Gribble > > > -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
Bryan Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double > > line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is > > a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't > > matter what Income account you used to transfer from. > > > > I'm still trying to figure this statement out. Why doesn't it matter? If I > transfer from "dividend income" to "brokerage account", it doesn't matter > whether I've marked it "div" or not -- there is no association with the stock > account, so an investment report does not find the dividend. I think the suggestion was intended for the situation where the dividend is reinvested. Then the transaction is from "dividend income" to the security, so it's unambiguous. In the general case, where the dividend is paid as a cash amount to a brokerage account, you're out of luck. It seems reasonable that one needs a separate income account associated with every dividend-producing security account. An accountant friend of mine suggests that for tax and portfolio evaluation purposes this is the best thing. This could be something that's done through a "setup wizard" or some such thing; if the wizard was smart enough to "tag" the security account with the ID of the income account, a report could DTRT and pair up securities with their respective dividend accounts. Until we have such a thing, it can be done by hand. Bill Gribble -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Dave Peticolas wrote: > > I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of how > > stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework. There was some > > mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged the > > problem. I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return On > > Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of dividends and > > capital gains for a particular security. Has there been any thought of > > how to implement dividends? It seems that such a feature will be > > necessary in order to completely keep track of personal finance. > > > > One could hack in a temporary fix by having an account > > Income:Dividends:Security_Name and having all dividends that come from > > Security_Name be counted against that security, but then you run into > > problems if you have the same security in two different accounts (not > > inconceivable). > > Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double > line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is > a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't > matter what Income account you used to transfer from. > I'm still trying to figure this statement out. Why doesn't it matter? If I transfer from "dividend income" to "brokerage account", it doesn't matter whether I've marked it "div" or not -- there is no association with the stock account, so an investment report does not find the dividend. Bryan -- - Bryan Larsen, Senior Software Engineer & fall guy Phone: 306 664 2087 x29. Fax: 306 664 4446 Analog Design Automation: Analog Circuit Synthesis? Problem Solved. -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
According to Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode > > a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to > > evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and > > automagically by gnc-prices). > > I woudn't rely on fixed exchange rates until the old national currencies > are so obsolete that no one uses them any more. Since the fixed exchange > rates were defined by politics, they can be changed by politics, > no matter how permanent the politicians say they are. Euro and other Euro Currencies have a fixe exchange rate in order to unify Euro trading and to provide a smooth transition to the Europeanization. So the Euro exchange rate with Euro currencies will NOT move. BTW I talked about a "user customizable" solution to allow changing this rate juste in cas of... > We still need a solution to the general problem of (variable) > exchange rates. If we have one, it should handle the euro automagically. Yes, but having fixed Exchange rate for Euro Currencies allow to do everything off-line :-) Just my .02 EURO on the problem Hub -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
> > So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode > a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to > evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and > automagically by gnc-prices). I woudn't rely on fixed exchange rates until the old national currencies are so obsolete that no one uses them any more. Since the fixed exchange rates were defined by politics, they can be changed by politics, no matter how permanent the politicians say they are. We still need a solution to the general problem of (variable) exchange rates. If we have one, it should handle the euro automagically. If we don't, we'll still need to build one, and then special effort on the euro will have been wasted. Is there something I don't understand here? -- hendrik. -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
Hubert Figuiere wrote: > So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode > a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to > evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and > automagically by gnc-prices). Hi! I have implemented this EURO conversion, it is in the CVS. The EURO support is at its beginning now and it will take some time until it gets really useful. For now all it does is to display your profits and assets in the statusbar in local currency and EURO. Herbert. -- Herbert Thoma FhG-IIS A, Studio Department Am Weichselgarten3, 91058 Erlangen, Germany Phone: +49-9131-776-323 Fax: +49-9131-776-399 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.iis.fhg.de/ -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
According to Paul Fenwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:11:29PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: > > > Having something which can fetch currency data and update things in > > GnuCash accordingly sounds like a good idea. I'll see what I can > > do about this. I'm going to find myself in a similar situation > > if I ever invest in US markets. (I want to know everything in > > Australian Dollars.) > > It appears that Yahoo have an on-line currency converter, so I'll > work on adding currency conversion to Finance::Quote. When I've > got it working okay I'll post more information to the list about > adding currency conversion to GnuCash. I have found another problem with conversion: I do have an account in EURO. But in the main window, the total is given un FRF (I have set LC_MONETARY to "fr_FR") but it give the EURO amount. This is annoying sice that make me loose money :-) So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and automagically by gnc-prices). Hub -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
> G'day Hubert, > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:29:51AM +0200, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > > How hard would it be to allow the stock ticker to fetch the stock price in > > USD (any currency), convert to the account currency and compute the real > > price ? > > Tricky. The stock-ticker fetches stock quotes in the currency of the > exhcange which they come from (ie, AUD for the ASX, Euros for > Yahoo! Europe, and USD for everything else). It then updates the > price of that stock to the value it fetched. > > It doesn't do any currency conversion when entering the values into > GnuCash. This means that even though a quote from NASDAQ will be in > USD, it won't check to make sure that your account is listed in > USD. This is probably a bug -- I'll see what I can do about it. > It is mentioned in the most recent documentation. > > In order for the ticker to take a value in one currency and convert > it to another, it would need to know the current trading rates between > those two currencies. AFAIK there is nothing in GnuCash that does > currency conversions, but I may be wrong. Anyone care to enlighten me? You are correct. dave -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:11:29PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: > Having something which can fetch currency data and update things in > GnuCash accordingly sounds like a good idea. I'll see what I can > do about this. I'm going to find myself in a similar situation > if I ever invest in US markets. (I want to know everything in > Australian Dollars.) It appears that Yahoo have an on-line currency converter, so I'll work on adding currency conversion to Finance::Quote. When I've got it working okay I'll post more information to the list about adding currency conversion to GnuCash. Cheers, Paul -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
G'day Hubert, On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:29:51AM +0200, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > How hard would it be to allow the stock ticker to fetch the stock price in > USD (any currency), convert to the account currency and compute the real > price ? Tricky. The stock-ticker fetches stock quotes in the currency of the exhcange which they come from (ie, AUD for the ASX, Euros for Yahoo! Europe, and USD for everything else). It then updates the price of that stock to the value it fetched. It doesn't do any currency conversion when entering the values into GnuCash. This means that even though a quote from NASDAQ will be in USD, it won't check to make sure that your account is listed in USD. This is probably a bug -- I'll see what I can do about it. It is mentioned in the most recent documentation. In order for the ticker to take a value in one currency and convert it to another, it would need to know the current trading rates between those two currencies. AFAIK there is nothing in GnuCash that does currency conversions, but I may be wrong. Anyone care to enlighten me? Having something which can fetch currency data and update things in GnuCash accordingly sounds like a good idea. I'll see what I can do about this. I'm going to find myself in a similar situation if I ever invest in US markets. (I want to know everything in Australian Dollars.) Cheers, Paul -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
According to Rob Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rob> I'm also interested in adding some helper dialogs for things like > Rob> "stock split", "mutual fund purchase", etc. A helper for > > stock split! please! I will be glad to test that one out! I'll be happy to test too. BTW, how would it work if we had stock bought at a price of 0 (to simulate the split) ? BTW, I'm missing something with stocks. My employer is offering soemthing called PEE (Plan Epargne Entreprise) which is an investment plan for employee that allow the purchase of what they call "parts FCPE" which is *virtual* stock of the company, convertible to real stock. The problem is that the currency is in FRF while the stock is NASDAQ stock quoted in USD. How hard would it be to allow the stock ticker to fetch the stock price in USD (any currency), convert to the account currency and compute the real price ? Hub -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:34:06 -0700, "David G. Paschich" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> stock split! please! I will be glad to test that one out! David> Me too! David> Also, under the aegis of "stock split" may come such annoying David> things as "stock-for-stock merger" and "stock spinoff". Hey, all I got is a simple cisco split? rob -- It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
> > stock split! please! I will be glad to test that one out! Me too! Also, under the aegis of "stock split" may come such annoying things as "stock-for-stock merger" and "stock spinoff". Example of the latter: I owned 100 shares of GM. GM decides to spin off its Raytheon weapons division, giving every GM shareholder one share of RTN for every four shares of GM. So now I own 100 shares of GM and 25 shares of RTN. *But*, for US tax purposes, the RTN shares are treated as if I bought them when I bought the GM shares, and the purchase price ("basis") is pro-rated between the two. This is something that Quicken doesn't get right, and it's always bugged the heck out of me. These things aren't particulalarly rare either, and are just the sort of thing software should be able to help with. David G. Paschich [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
>>>>> On 11 Apr 2000 13:32:00 -0500, Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> said: Rob> Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of >> how stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework. There >> was some mention in the QIF import html file, but that just >> acknowledged the problem. I was thinking that I would like to >> implement a Return On Investment report, but to do that you need to >> keep track of dividends and capital gains for a particular >> security. Has there been any thought of how to implement >> dividends? It seems that such a feature will be necessary in order >> to completely keep track of personal finance. Rob> I'm also interested in adding some helper dialogs for things like Rob> "stock split", "mutual fund purchase", etc. A helper for stock split! please! I will be glad to test that one out! rob -- "We have no intention of shipping another bloated operating system and forcing that down the throats of our Windows customers." -- Paul Maritz, Microsoft GVP, regarding JAVA -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of > how stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework. There was > some mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged > the problem. I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return > On Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of > dividends and capital gains for a particular security. Has there > been any thought of how to implement dividends? It seems that such > a feature will be necessary in order to completely keep track of > personal finance. I'm also interested in adding some helper dialogs for things like "stock split", "mutual fund purchase", etc. A helper for dividends seems like another likely candidate. Although, now that I've figured out how to do some of this by hand, I'm wondering if for the medium run, really good documentation might be enough... In any case, I'd like to figure out how all this stuff is "supposed to work", and then add it to the documentation, and though I know there are alternate "correct" ways of handling things, I'd like to document at least one reasonably good one. This could be in conjunction with an elaboration on our "Account Types" and sample heirarchy, help page... > then you run into problems if you have the same security in two > different accounts (not inconceivable). Actually, I'd say this situation is likely to be somewhat common. I've been in that situation, anyway. I had two brokerage accounts before I migrated everything over to the newer one, and then there's also the retirement IRA vs normal brokerage issue. > Another solution might be to have a "Dividends" subaccount for every > mutual fund and stock. But then for convenience of reporting, you > might want those "Dividends" subaccounts to be also subaccounts off > of: Income:Dividends This would ruin the tree structure of the > accounts hierarchy. Right. You can only have one or the other. The approach you mention here has the advantage of keeping more of the info related to a given stock right together, but I'm not sure you'd get the result you expected. Since you'd be transferring dividends from a sub-account to a parent account, you'd have a net-sum-zero effect on the sub-tree. > PS The program is great. I got so annoyed with Quicken that I > contemplated going back to MYM11 under dosemu, but then I found > GnuCash could do most of what I need, and under Linux to boot! And if it doesn't do what you want. We can see about fixing that :> -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930 -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dividends
> I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of how > stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework. There was some > mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged the > problem. I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return On > Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of dividends and > capital gains for a particular security. Has there been any thought of > how to implement dividends? It seems that such a feature will be > necessary in order to completely keep track of personal finance. > > One could hack in a temporary fix by having an account > Income:Dividends:Security_Name and having all dividends that come from > Security_Name be counted against that security, but then you run into > problems if you have the same security in two different accounts (not > inconceivable). Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't matter what Income account you used to transfer from. dave -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dividends
I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of how stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework. There was some mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged the problem. I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return On Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of dividends and capital gains for a particular security. Has there been any thought of how to implement dividends? It seems that such a feature will be necessary in order to completely keep track of personal finance. One could hack in a temporary fix by having an account Income:Dividends:Security_Name and having all dividends that come from Security_Name be counted against that security, but then you run into problems if you have the same security in two different accounts (not inconceivable). Another solution might be to have a "Dividends" subaccount for every mutual fund and stock. But then for convenience of reporting, you might want those "Dividends" subaccounts to be also subaccounts off of: Income:Dividends This would ruin the tree structure of the accounts hierarchy. Does anyone have any good solutions for this which aren't messy? Am I missing something obvious here? Patrick Baker PS The program is great. I got so annoyed with Quicken that I contemplated going back to MYM11 under dosemu, but then I found GnuCash could do most of what I need, and under Linux to boot! -- Gnucash Developer's List To unsubscribe send empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]