Dividend or Dividends (was: Re: What does "Int" mean?)

2010-02-01 Thread Geert Janssens
On Monday 1 February 2010, Derek Atkins wrote:
> >> There was also one time 'Div' in the portfolio action items. The comment
> >> with it said this to mean 'Dividend', so I changed that one as well. But
> >> in other places in GnuCash, the word 'Dividends' is used and not
> >> 'Dividend'. So I wonder, should the action item also be in the plural
> >> form ?
> >
> > I overlooked the plural form. I think it is better to unify them to
> > the plural form
> > as long as it is not strange.
> >
> > (I can't understand a nuance of English expression.)
> 
> I don't think that singular v. plural matters in this particular case.
> I think it's reasonable to choose one and stick with it.  I don't have a
> personal preference which one we choose.
> 
Looking further through the source, I find around 300 references to 
"Dividends", "Dividend" or "Dividend Income". So both singular and plural form 
are used throughout GnuCash in different contexts.

As we are talking about the action menu in the register and it doesn't really 
seem to matter, I think I'll stick with the singular form, simply because it's 
one character shorter.

So, unless someone comes up with a good motivation to use the plural form, it 
will remain singular.

Geert
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[patch] libofx creates unbalanced tx on importing dividends bug 164645

2006-02-21 Thread David Reiser
The patch is attached to the bug report http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ 
show_bug.cgi?id=164645


gnc-ofx-import.c treats OFX_REINVEST (a transaction combining the  
payment of a dividend with the reinvestment of that dividend) and  
OFX_INCOME (a transaction of a security paying a dividend, resulting  
in cash being added to the parent brokerage account) the same despite  
the fact that, at least for my ofx downloads, the transaction amounts  
have opposite signs. The effect was that non-reinvested cash  
dividends were imported into gnucash unbalanced.


The patch fixes the behavior for me in 1.9.1. (Though I'm sure the  
coding style can only be considered brute force.) No more cursed hand  
editing of dividend transactions nor transactions added to "Imbalance- 
USD"!!!

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Re: Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.

2000-11-05 Thread Rob Browning

Bill Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   date   descr acct  bought  sold  price  value  totshare  balance
>  9/14/00 Price  15 50   750
>  9/15/00 Stock Div 250 0   75   0
>  9/15/00 Price  10 75   750

For some of these things, I think we're going to have to consider a
special "tag" field (something like the "action" field, but with
documented semantics and a fixed set of values that we control).
Without this, it seems like it's going to be difficult to generate
reports that know exactly what really happened...

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Re: Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.

2000-09-23 Thread Jens Müller


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From: "Bill Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 2:44 PM
Subject: Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.


> Hi,
> I've been playing around with how to enter stock
> transactions like splits, stock dividends, mergers, etc.
> After much trying, I think the most logical way of handling
> these is to have a zero price transaction in which you
> buy (or sell) some number of shares as reflected by
> the stock dividend.  For example, if I owned 50 shares
> of ABC corp which gave a stock dividend of 25 shares,
> (3-for-2 split), my stock account for abc would look like
>
In Germany, stock splits/merges usually involve a change in the so called
WKN (Wertpapierkennummer, Security ID Number).

I think we should store such numbers, too, and implement special functions
for such things as splits, merges, dividends, etc.

Jens



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Stock Splits, Stock Dividends, Mergers, etc.

2000-09-23 Thread Bill Carlson

Hi,
I've been playing around with how to enter stock
transactions like splits, stock dividends, mergers, etc.
After much trying, I think the most logical way of handling
these is to have a zero price transaction in which you
buy (or sell) some number of shares as reflected by
the stock dividend.  For example, if I owned 50 shares
of ABC corp which gave a stock dividend of 25 shares,
(3-for-2 split), my stock account for abc would look like

  date   descr acct  bought  sold  price  value  totshare  balance
 9/14/00 Price  15 50   750
 9/15/00 Stock Div 250 0   75   0
 9/15/00 Price  10 75   750

I think this accurately represents what happend in the transaction,
but I don't like the balance dropping to zero.  Therefore, I
am contemplating a change in Account.c to cause the balance
of this split to be set to 750 (the previous value) much the
same way entering a price without any bought or sold does
not change the total shares.   Also, there needs to be a
minor change to the "transaction out of balance" calculation
in SplitLedger.c when editing a transaction like this.  At
the moment, the only way to enter one of these (zero price) trasactions
is to enter it from scratch.  I'm perfectly willing to figure out
the necessary changes, but before starting this, I wanted
to know what the list thought of this idea, or if anyone
had a better idea of how to deal with this sort of transaction.
Also, I could update the docs to describe this method
if people thought it was a good idea.

Cheers,

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Re: Dividends (& "standard" accounts)

2000-04-21 Thread Dave Peticolas

> Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes it can be done by hand, but there definitely needs to be an accepted
> > structure for setting up these accounts.  It seems to be that there
> > should be an addition to the engine to implement account association,
> > because if you tried to make such a linkage in a memo field it would be
> > too easy for a user to mess up the accounts.  Also, with a definite
> > account association structure it will be much easier to implement wizards.
> 
> There's already a "notes" field in the account struct which is
> currently unused.  We've been discussing this sort of stuff off and on

It's not unused -- it's the big field at the bottom of
the add account and edit account windows. But, it wouldn't
be a problem to add another internal data member to do the
same thing you propose.

dave

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Re: Dividends (& "standard" accounts)

2000-04-20 Thread Bill Gribble

Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes it can be done by hand, but there definitely needs to be an accepted
> structure for setting up these accounts.  It seems to be that there
> should be an addition to the engine to implement account association,
> because if you tried to make such a linkage in a memo field it would be
> too easy for a user to mess up the accounts.  Also, with a definite
> account association structure it will be much easier to implement wizards.

There's already a "notes" field in the account struct which is
currently unused.  We've been discussing this sort of stuff off and on
for a while, and I think the solution that's been most positively
viewed is to use a hash table of string->string in the notes field.
This would allow just about any kind of extra information that we
could want to put there.  Plus, GLib provides a ready-to-use hash
table implementation so it would be a piece of cake to put it in.

Deciding on a "standard" position in the account hierarchy opens up a
whole other can of worms, though: the recommended or suggested layout
of a user's accounts in general.  I think it makes sense to have a
standard set of accounts that gets set up initially (if the user
wants), including a standard set of expense and income categories, and
subtrees at the top level for bank accounts and securities.  A wizard
would be a BIG help here; "do you own a house?" sort of questions
would go a long way towards getting things set up correctly for the
new user.  Likewise, a set of "something big is happening" wizards
would be useful, like "I just bought a house".

What are people's thoughts on what a standard set of accounts should
be?
  
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Re: Dividends

2000-04-20 Thread Patrick Baker

Yes it can be done by hand, but there definitely needs to be an accepted
structure for setting up these accounts.  It seems to be that there
should be an addition to the engine to implement account association,
because if you tried to make such a linkage in a memo field it would be
too easy for a user to mess up the accounts.  Also, with a definite
account association structure it will be much easier to implement wizards.

-Patrick Baker

On 20 Apr 2000, Bill Gribble wrote:

> Bryan Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double
> > > line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is
> > > a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't
> > > matter what Income account you used to transfer from.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm still trying to figure this statement out.  Why doesn't it matter?  If I
> > transfer from "dividend income" to "brokerage account", it doesn't matter
> > whether I've marked it "div" or not -- there is no association with the stock
> > account, so an investment report does not find the dividend.
> 
> I think the suggestion was intended for the situation where the
> dividend is reinvested.  Then the transaction is from "dividend
> income" to the security, so it's unambiguous.  In the general case,
> where the dividend is paid as a cash amount to a brokerage account,
> you're out of luck.
> 
> It seems reasonable that one needs a separate income account
> associated with every dividend-producing security account.  An
> accountant friend of mine suggests that for tax and portfolio
> evaluation purposes this is the best thing.  This could be something
> that's done through a "setup wizard" or some such thing; if the wizard
> was smart enough to "tag" the security account with the ID of the
> income account, a report could DTRT and pair up securities with their
> respective dividend accounts.  Until we have such a thing, it can be
> done by hand.
> 
> Bill Gribble
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Dividends

2000-04-20 Thread Bill Gribble

Bryan Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double
> > line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is
> > a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't
> > matter what Income account you used to transfer from.
> > 
> 
> I'm still trying to figure this statement out.  Why doesn't it matter?  If I
> transfer from "dividend income" to "brokerage account", it doesn't matter
> whether I've marked it "div" or not -- there is no association with the stock
> account, so an investment report does not find the dividend.

I think the suggestion was intended for the situation where the
dividend is reinvested.  Then the transaction is from "dividend
income" to the security, so it's unambiguous.  In the general case,
where the dividend is paid as a cash amount to a brokerage account,
you're out of luck.

It seems reasonable that one needs a separate income account
associated with every dividend-producing security account.  An
accountant friend of mine suggests that for tax and portfolio
evaluation purposes this is the best thing.  This could be something
that's done through a "setup wizard" or some such thing; if the wizard
was smart enough to "tag" the security account with the ID of the
income account, a report could DTRT and pair up securities with their
respective dividend accounts.  Until we have such a thing, it can be
done by hand.

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-20 Thread Bryan Larsen

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Dave Peticolas wrote:
> > I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of how
> > stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework.  There was some
> > mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged the
> > problem.  I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return On
> > Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of dividends and
> > capital gains for a particular security.  Has there been any thought of
> > how to implement dividends?  It seems that such a feature will be
> > necessary in order to completely keep track of personal finance. 
> > 
> > One could hack in a temporary fix by having an account
> > Income:Dividends:Security_Name and having all dividends that come from
> > Security_Name be counted against that security, but then you run into
> > problems if you have the same security in two different accounts (not
> > inconceivable).  
>  
> Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double
> line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is
> a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't
> matter what Income account you used to transfer from.
> 

I'm still trying to figure this statement out.  Why doesn't it matter?  If I
transfer from "dividend income" to "brokerage account", it doesn't matter
whether I've marked it "div" or not -- there is no association with the stock
account, so an investment report does not find the dividend.

Bryan

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-17 Thread Hubert Figuiere

According to Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode
> > a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to
> > evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and
> > automagically by gnc-prices).
> 
> I woudn't rely on fixed exchange rates until the old national currencies
> are so obsolete that no one uses them any more.  Since the fixed exchange
> rates were defined by politics, they can be changed by politics,
> no matter how permanent the politicians say they are.

Euro and other Euro Currencies have a fixe exchange rate in order to unify
Euro trading and to provide a smooth transition to the Europeanization. So
the Euro exchange rate with Euro currencies will NOT move. BTW I talked
about a "user customizable" solution to allow changing this rate juste in
cas of...

> We still need a solution to the general problem of (variable)
> exchange rates.  If we have one, it should handle the euro automagically.

Yes, but having fixed Exchange rate for Euro Currencies allow to do
everything off-line :-)

Just my .02 EURO on the problem

Hub

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-14 Thread Hendrik Boom

> 
> So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode
> a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to
> evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and
> automagically by gnc-prices).

I woudn't rely on fixed exchange rates until the old national currencies
are so obsolete that no one uses them any more.  Since the fixed exchange
rates were defined by politics, they can be changed by politics,
no matter how permanent the politicians say they are.

We still need a solution to the general problem of (variable)
exchange rates.  If we have one, it should handle the euro automagically.
If we don't, we'll still need to build one, and then special effort on the
euro will have been wasted.

Is there something I don't understand here?

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-14 Thread Herbert Thoma

Hubert Figuiere wrote:
> So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode
> a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to
> evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and
> automagically by gnc-prices).

Hi!

I have implemented this EURO conversion, it is in the CVS.

The EURO support is at its beginning now and it will take
some time until it gets really useful. For now all it does
is to display your profits and assets in the statusbar in 
local currency and EURO.

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-14 Thread Hubert Figuiere

According to Paul Fenwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:11:29PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote:
> 
> > Having something which can fetch currency data and update things in
> > GnuCash accordingly sounds like a good idea.  I'll see what I can
> > do about this.  I'm going to find myself in a similar situation
> > if I ever invest in US markets.  (I want to know everything in
> > Australian Dollars.)
> 
> It appears that Yahoo have an on-line currency converter, so I'll
> work on adding currency conversion to Finance::Quote.  When I've
> got it working okay I'll post more information to the list about
> adding currency conversion to GnuCash.

I have found another problem with conversion: I do have an account in EURO.
But in the main window, the total is given un FRF (I have set LC_MONETARY to
"fr_FR") but it give the EURO amount. This is annoying sice that make me
loose money :-)

So GnuCash definetly needs a currencies conversion. For EURO, we can hardcode
a fixed table of all "Euro currencies" since they are NOT supposed to
evolve. For the other, we can have a table updated by the user (and
automagically by gnc-prices).




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Re: Dividends

2000-04-13 Thread Dave Peticolas

> G'day Hubert,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:29:51AM +0200, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
>  
> > How hard would it be to allow the stock ticker to fetch the stock price in
> > USD (any currency), convert to the account currency and compute the real
> > price ?
> 
> Tricky.  The stock-ticker fetches stock quotes in the currency of the
> exhcange which they come from (ie, AUD for the ASX, Euros for
> Yahoo! Europe, and USD for everything else).  It then updates the
> price of that stock to the value it fetched.
> 
> It doesn't do any currency conversion when entering the values into
> GnuCash.  This means that even though a quote from NASDAQ will be in
> USD, it won't check to make sure that your account is listed in
> USD.  This is probably a bug -- I'll see what I can do about it.
> It is mentioned in the most recent documentation.
> 
> In order for the ticker to take a value in one currency and convert
> it to another, it would need to know the current trading rates between
> those two currencies.  AFAIK there is nothing in GnuCash that does
> currency conversions, but I may be wrong.  Anyone care to enlighten me?
 
You are correct.

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-13 Thread Paul Fenwick

On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:11:29PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote:

> Having something which can fetch currency data and update things in
> GnuCash accordingly sounds like a good idea.  I'll see what I can
> do about this.  I'm going to find myself in a similar situation
> if I ever invest in US markets.  (I want to know everything in
> Australian Dollars.)

It appears that Yahoo have an on-line currency converter, so I'll
work on adding currency conversion to Finance::Quote.  When I've
got it working okay I'll post more information to the list about
adding currency conversion to GnuCash.

Cheers,

Paul

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-13 Thread Paul Fenwick

G'day Hubert,

On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:29:51AM +0200, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
 
> How hard would it be to allow the stock ticker to fetch the stock price in
> USD (any currency), convert to the account currency and compute the real
> price ?

Tricky.  The stock-ticker fetches stock quotes in the currency of the
exhcange which they come from (ie, AUD for the ASX, Euros for
Yahoo! Europe, and USD for everything else).  It then updates the
price of that stock to the value it fetched.

It doesn't do any currency conversion when entering the values into
GnuCash.  This means that even though a quote from NASDAQ will be in
USD, it won't check to make sure that your account is listed in
USD.  This is probably a bug -- I'll see what I can do about it.
It is mentioned in the most recent documentation.

In order for the ticker to take a value in one currency and convert
it to another, it would need to know the current trading rates between
those two currencies.  AFAIK there is nothing in GnuCash that does
currency conversions, but I may be wrong.  Anyone care to enlighten me?

Having something which can fetch currency data and update things in
GnuCash accordingly sounds like a good idea.  I'll see what I can
do about this.  I'm going to find myself in a similar situation
if I ever invest in US markets.  (I want to know everything in
Australian Dollars.)

Cheers,

Paul

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere

According to Rob Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Rob> I'm also interested in adding some helper dialogs for things like
> Rob> "stock split", "mutual fund purchase", etc.  A helper for
> 
> stock split!  please!  I will be glad to test that one out!

I'll be happy to test too. BTW, how would it work if we had stock bought at
a price of 0 (to simulate the split) ?

BTW, I'm missing something with stocks. My employer is offering soemthing
called PEE (Plan Epargne Entreprise) which is an investment plan for
employee that allow the purchase of what they call "parts FCPE" which is
*virtual* stock of the company, convertible to real stock. The problem is
that the currency is in FRF while the stock is NASDAQ stock quoted in USD.

How hard would it be to allow the stock ticker to fetch the stock price in
USD (any currency), convert to the account currency and compute the real
price ?



Hub

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-11 Thread Rob Walker


> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:34:06 -0700, "David G. Paschich"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>> 
>> stock split!  please!  I will be glad to test that one out!

David> Me too!

David> Also, under the aegis of "stock split" may come such annoying
David> things as "stock-for-stock merger" and "stock spinoff".

Hey, all I got is a simple cisco split?

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-11 Thread David G. Paschich

> 
> stock split!  please!  I will be glad to test that one out!

Me too!

Also, under the aegis of "stock split" may come such annoying things
as "stock-for-stock merger" and "stock spinoff".

Example of the latter:  I owned 100 shares of GM.  GM decides to spin
off its Raytheon weapons division, giving every GM shareholder one
share of RTN for every four shares of GM.  So now I own 100 shares of
GM and 25 shares of RTN.

*But*, for US tax purposes, the RTN shares are treated as if I
bought them when I bought the GM shares, and the purchase price
("basis") is pro-rated between the two.

This is something that Quicken doesn't get right, and it's always
bugged the heck out of me.  These things aren't particulalarly rare
either, and are just the sort of thing software should be able to help
with.


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Re: Dividends

2000-04-11 Thread Rob Walker


>>>>> On 11 Apr 2000 13:32:00 -0500, Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> said:

Rob> Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of
>> how stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework.  There
>> was some mention in the QIF import html file, but that just
>> acknowledged the problem.  I was thinking that I would like to
>> implement a Return On Investment report, but to do that you need to
>> keep track of dividends and capital gains for a particular
>> security.  Has there been any thought of how to implement
>> dividends?  It seems that such a feature will be necessary in order
>> to completely keep track of personal finance.

Rob> I'm also interested in adding some helper dialogs for things like
Rob> "stock split", "mutual fund purchase", etc.  A helper for

stock split!  please!  I will be glad to test that one out!

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-11 Thread Rob Browning

Patrick Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of
> how stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework.  There was
> some mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged
> the problem.  I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return
> On Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of
> dividends and capital gains for a particular security.  Has there
> been any thought of how to implement dividends?  It seems that such
> a feature will be necessary in order to completely keep track of
> personal finance.

I'm also interested in adding some helper dialogs for things like
"stock split", "mutual fund purchase", etc.  A helper for dividends
seems like another likely candidate.  Although, now that I've figured
out how to do some of this by hand, I'm wondering if for the medium
run, really good documentation might be enough...

In any case, I'd like to figure out how all this stuff is "supposed to
work", and then add it to the documentation, and though I know there
are alternate "correct" ways of handling things, I'd like to document
at least one reasonably good one.  This could be in conjunction with
an elaboration on our "Account Types" and sample heirarchy, help
page...

> then you run into problems if you have the same security in two
> different accounts (not inconceivable).

Actually, I'd say this situation is likely to be somewhat common.
I've been in that situation, anyway.  I had two brokerage accounts
before I migrated everything over to the newer one, and then there's
also the retirement IRA vs normal brokerage issue.

> Another solution might be to have a "Dividends" subaccount for every
> mutual fund and stock.  But then for convenience of reporting, you
> might want those "Dividends" subaccounts to be also subaccounts off
> of: Income:Dividends This would ruin the tree structure of the
> accounts hierarchy.

Right.  You can only have one or the other.  The approach you mention
here has the advantage of keeping more of the info related to a given
stock right together, but I'm not sure you'd get the result you
expected.  Since you'd be transferring dividends from a sub-account to
a parent account, you'd have a net-sum-zero effect on the sub-tree.

> PS The program is great.  I got so annoyed with Quicken that I
> contemplated going back to MYM11 under dosemu, but then I found
> GnuCash could do most of what I need, and under Linux to boot!

And if it doesn't do what you want.  We can see about fixing that :>

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Re: Dividends

2000-04-10 Thread Dave Peticolas

> I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of how
> stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework.  There was some
> mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged the
> problem.  I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return On
> Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of dividends and
> capital gains for a particular security.  Has there been any thought of
> how to implement dividends?  It seems that such a feature will be
> necessary in order to completely keep track of personal finance. 
> 
> One could hack in a temporary fix by having an account
> Income:Dividends:Security_Name and having all dividends that come from
> Security_Name be counted against that security, but then you run into
> problems if you have the same security in two different accounts (not
> inconceivable).  
 
Another thing you could do is use the 'Action' field in double
line mode to mark the transaction as being a Dividend (there is
a choice 'Div' in the popup menu for that purpose. Then it wouldn't
matter what Income account you used to transfer from.

dave

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Dividends

2000-04-10 Thread Patrick Baker

I looked at most of the archives, and I didn't see much mention of how
stock dividends would fit into the GnuCash framework.  There was some
mention in the QIF import html file, but that just acknowledged the
problem.  I was thinking that I would like to implement a Return On
Investment report, but to do that you need to keep track of dividends and
capital gains for a particular security.  Has there been any thought of
how to implement dividends?  It seems that such a feature will be
necessary in order to completely keep track of personal finance. 

One could hack in a temporary fix by having an account
Income:Dividends:Security_Name and having all dividends that come from
Security_Name be counted against that security, but then you run into
problems if you have the same security in two different accounts (not
inconceivable).  

Another solution might be to have a "Dividends"  subaccount for every
mutual fund and stock.  But then for convenience of reporting, you might
want those "Dividends" subaccounts to be also subaccounts off of: 
Income:Dividends
This would ruin the tree structure of the accounts hierarchy.

Does anyone have any good solutions for this which aren't messy?  Am I
missing something obvious here?

Patrick Baker

PS  The program is great.  I got so annoyed with Quicken that I
contemplated going back to MYM11 under dosemu, but then I found GnuCash
could do most of what I need, and under Linux to boot!


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