Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

[David H]

* think * not honk - spellcheck? Fat fingers ?

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 5:07 pm, David H  wrote:

> I honk he’s talking about having 1 template but the transactions have
> already been created 12 months in advance. I.e. he wants to update the
> created tens based on an updated template after the fact.
>
> Regards David H.
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 10:43 am, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
>> Instead of having 11 or 12 sx templates, why not have one that fires
>> monthly?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: "David G. Pickett via gnucash-user" 
>> Date: 1/16/24 6:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Gnucash Users 
>> Subject: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.
>>
>> I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant
>> inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by
>> interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the
>> already generated future transactions to match an updated template
>> transaction, so I do not need to update 11 or 12 more places.
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

[David H]

I honk he’s talking about having 1 template but the transactions have
already been created 12 months in advance. I.e. he wants to update the
created tens based on an updated template after the fact.

Regards David H.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 10:43 am, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> Instead of having 11 or 12 sx templates, why not have one that fires
> monthly?
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "David G. Pickett via gnucash-user" 
> Date: 1/16/24 6:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.
>
> I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant
> inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by
> interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the
> already generated future transactions to match an updated template
> transaction, so I do not need to update 11 or 12 more places.
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Re: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[john]

No. Gtk does its own drawing at a very low level using a library called Cairo. 
Cairo gets a buffer from the OS and puts a bitmap in it and the OS displays the 
bitmap. A PDF created from the bitmap would be a screenshot, not the complete 
document.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 17:44, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> If Win7 is still supported by GnuCash as a target, then I can see keeping it, 
> but Win10+ has had Print to PDF built-in by default.
> 
> Would it be possible to change the button to 'print' to that device on any OS 
> directly, bypassing Webkit for that purpose?
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 1/16/24 2:06 PM, Geert Janssens wrote:
>> On Windows it still effectively creates a pdf as far as I know (as the 
>> version of WebKit used
>> on Windows still allows for it).
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

[Adrien Monteleone]

You can use variables, thus if you alter your templates to use an 
inflation multiplier, you future proof the template. GnuCash will prompt 
you for that variable value each time the SX fires. Simply enter your 
new multiplier as desired.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 5:18 PM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:

I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant 
inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by 
interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the already 
generated future transactions to match an updated template transaction, so I do 
not need to update 11 or 12 more places.


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Re: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[Adrien Monteleone]

If Win7 is still supported by GnuCash as a target, then I can see 
keeping it, but Win10+ has had Print to PDF built-in by default.


Would it be possible to change the button to 'print' to that device on 
any OS directly, bypassing Webkit for that purpose?


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 2:06 PM, Geert Janssens wrote:

On Windows it still effectively creates a pdf as far as I know (as the version 
of WebKit used
on Windows still allows for it).


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Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist

[Paras Desai]

Oh is it?

That's is nice. I will do that.

Thanks John for your help

Paras

With regards
Paras

From: John Ralls 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:27:30 AM
To: Paras Desai 
Cc: GnuCash User List 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist

Paras,

Just include a blank split (no entries in shares, price, buy, or sell) to the 
mutual fund account and the APR will pick it up.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jan 16, 2024, at 9:24 AM, Paras Desai  wrote:
>
> Thanks John for your prompt feedback.
>
> Yes, I am posting it manually. Only down side is that i can not assign this 
> income to that specific Mutual fund account and hence it does not reflects in 
> Advance Portfolio Report, I guess.
>
> Of course, this is not the big deal.
>
> With my regards
>
> Paras.
>
> With regards
> Paras
> From: john 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:35:30 PM
> To: Paras Desai 
> Cc: GnuCash User List 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 2024, at 05:41, Paras Desai  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > I was trying to post the Dividend income from a Mutual Fund through Stock 
> > Assist. But I encountered an issue. I am narrating my issue as below.
> >
> > When I receive the dividend, 10 % of TCS (Tax Collected at Source) is 
> > deducted and deposited to the Tax authority on my behalf and the remaining 
> > amount is paid to me. Such Tax deducted and deposited to Tax authority is 
> > My Tax credit and in my books of account it should reflect as Assets (Tax 
> > Credit)
> >
> > So my posting should look like this
> >
> > Dividend : Rs 1000 Cr (Income Account : Income from Dividend)
> >
> > Cash : Rs 900 Dr (Asset Account : My Bank)
> >
> > Tax deducted : Rs100 Dr (Asset Account : Tax Credit)
> >
> > There is no expense involved in the transaction.
> >
> > Now, when I try to post this transaction through Stock Assist, It offers me 
> > two options
> >
> > 1. Either I show the difference between the Dividend and Cash (which is Tax 
> > deducted) as expense, or I capitalize. There is no option to post the 
> > difference as tax credit in Assets account.
> >
> > AS a result, I need to post the transaction, with manual split, but in that 
> > case, I'm afraid I can not show return in form of dividend income for the 
> > Mutual Fund Account in portfolio report.
> >
> > Has anyone come across such a typical situation ?
>
> That's not a scenario that's coded into the stock assistant so you'll have to 
> enter it manually. Since dividend payments are presumably periodic it sounds 
> like a good candidate for a scheduled transaction.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>

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Re: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

[Gyle McCollam]

Instead of having 11 or 12 sx templates, why not have one that fires monthly?



Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



 Original message 
From: "David G. Pickett via gnucash-user" 
Date: 1/16/24 6:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant 
inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by 
interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the already 
generated future transactions to match an updated template transaction, so I do 
not need to update 11 or 12 more places.
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[GNC] Enhancement: Future sched txn update if updated template.

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

I schedule my periodic transactions a year in advance, but with constant 
inflation, often the amount goes up.  It'd be nice to have a way to, by 
interactive option after I update the template, have gnucash update the already 
generated future transactions to match an updated template transaction, so I do 
not need to update 11 or 12 more places.
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Re: [GNC] Deferred Income << the general case is "imputed income"

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 1/16/2024 1:42 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
I'm thinking of a case where someone starts using GnuCash either at 
the point they start taking disbursements or after. I'm about to help 
a family member in that exact situation.


While Deferred Income wasn't tracked along the way, I'll set up the 
account with the present total as an opening balance and have them 
transfer against that each distribution. 


That's a reasonable solution.

I'd do it under equity. You can create for them there an account with a 
name like "deferred income". Presumably when you started the books for 
them, the other side of the transaction(*) entering the IRA balance as 
an asset was equity. All you would be doing now would be to "partition" 
equity transferring the remaining IRA balance form undifferentiated 
equity to ":deferred income:.


Then as distributions are taken, the debits would be bank account and 
deferred income and the credits the IRA balance and income 
(current/taxable income)


While this isn't necessary, could just debit equity, if you have the 
deferred income separated out it SHOWS. I'd certainly want my balance 
sheet to show that some of my net worth has a tax liability associated 
with it.


Michael D Novack

* If you used the "starting balance" tool no explicit transaction.


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Re: [GNC] Importing from one gnucash file to another

[John Ralls]

It's part of CSV import. It has been there for a long time but didn't work very 
well until Geert rewrote the CSV importer for GnuCash 4.

Use File>Export>Transactions to CSV to create a CSV file then 
File>Import>Import Transactions from CSV and click the Multi-Split box under 
File Format on the Import Preview page.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've never used it myself, but I recall a discussion when the feature was 
> added, I think for 4.x but it could have been earlier.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 1/16/24 5:16 AM, David H wrote:
>> James,
>> I may be mis-remembering but I seem to recall when importing txns some time
>> ago there was a checkbox or option to specify the file to be imported was
>> in Gnucash format ?  Do you see this? Have you selected it ?
> 
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Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist

[John Ralls]

Paras,

Just include a blank split (no entries in shares, price, buy, or sell) to the 
mutual fund account and the APR will pick it up.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jan 16, 2024, at 9:24 AM, Paras Desai  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John for your prompt feedback.
> 
> Yes, I am posting it manually. Only down side is that i can not assign this 
> income to that specific Mutual fund account and hence it does not reflects in 
> Advance Portfolio Report, I guess.
> 
> Of course, this is not the big deal.
> 
> With my regards
> 
> Paras.
> 
> With regards
> Paras 
> From: john 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:35:30 PM
> To: Paras Desai 
> Cc: GnuCash User List 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist
>  
> 
> 
> > On Jan 16, 2024, at 05:41, Paras Desai  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Greetings!
> > 
> > I was trying to post the Dividend income from a Mutual Fund through Stock 
> > Assist. But I encountered an issue. I am narrating my issue as below.
> > 
> > When I receive the dividend, 10 % of TCS (Tax Collected at Source) is 
> > deducted and deposited to the Tax authority on my behalf and the remaining 
> > amount is paid to me. Such Tax deducted and deposited to Tax authority is 
> > My Tax credit and in my books of account it should reflect as Assets (Tax 
> > Credit)
> > 
> > So my posting should look like this
> > 
> > Dividend : Rs 1000 Cr (Income Account : Income from Dividend)
> > 
> > Cash : Rs 900 Dr (Asset Account : My Bank)
> > 
> > Tax deducted : Rs100 Dr (Asset Account : Tax Credit)
> > 
> > There is no expense involved in the transaction.
> > 
> > Now, when I try to post this transaction through Stock Assist, It offers me 
> > two options
> > 
> > 1. Either I show the difference between the Dividend and Cash (which is Tax 
> > deducted) as expense, or I capitalize. There is no option to post the 
> > difference as tax credit in Assets account.
> > 
> > AS a result, I need to post the transaction, with manual split, but in that 
> > case, I'm afraid I can not show return in form of dividend income for the 
> > Mutual Fund Account in portfolio report.
> > 
> > Has anyone come across such a typical situation ?
> 
> That's not a scenario that's coded into the stock assistant so you'll have to 
> enter it manually. Since dividend payments are presumably periodic it sounds 
> like a good candidate for a scheduled transaction.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 

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Re: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[Geert Janssens]

Op dinsdag 16 januari 2024 20:06:59 CET schreef Chris Green:
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 12:55:00PM -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > On 1/16/24 8:05 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> > > I'm running Gnucash 5.3 on xubuntu linux.
> > > 
> > > The "Make PDF" button on the toolbar just does exactly the same as the
> > > "Print" button, it calls up the standard printer dialogue.
> > > 
> > > How can I get a report output as a PDF file?
> > 
> > I think that has something to do with the mess of Webkit versions
> > between Mac, Win, & *nix. If I recall correctly, the button was left for
> > a future fix, but set to bring up the printer dialog for now which can
> > then use the system PDF 'printer'. Since all three operating systems now
> > have this feature, I'd say the button should either invoke it directly,
> > or the button should be removed. (those on older Windows systems can
> > still use a 3rd party 'printer' like Bullzip)
> 
> Ah, I see, thanks.  Yes, I would agree that removing the button would
> make sense as it's somewhat confusing when it just brings up the print
> dialogue.

On Windows it still effectively creates a pdf as far as I know (as the version 
of WebKit used 
on Windows still allows for it).

Regards,

Geert
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Re: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[Chris Green]

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 12:55:00PM -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> On 1/16/24 8:05 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm running Gnucash 5.3 on xubuntu linux.
> > 
> > The "Make PDF" button on the toolbar just does exactly the same as the
> > "Print" button, it calls up the standard printer dialogue.
> > 
> > How can I get a report output as a PDF file?
> > 
> I think that has something to do with the mess of Webkit versions 
> between Mac, Win, & *nix. If I recall correctly, the button was left for 
> a future fix, but set to bring up the printer dialog for now which can 
> then use the system PDF 'printer'. Since all three operating systems now 
> have this feature, I'd say the button should either invoke it directly, 
> or the button should be removed. (those on older Windows systems can 
> still use a 3rd party 'printer' like Bullzip)
> 
Ah, I see, thanks.  Yes, I would agree that removing the button would
make sense as it's somewhat confusing when it just brings up the print
dialogue.

-- 
Chris Green
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Re: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[Adrien Monteleone]

I think that has something to do with the mess of Webkit versions 
between Mac, Win, & *nix. If I recall correctly, the button was left for 
a future fix, but set to bring up the printer dialog for now which can 
then use the system PDF 'printer'. Since all three operating systems now 
have this feature, I'd say the button should either invoke it directly, 
or the button should be removed. (those on older Windows systems can 
still use a 3rd party 'printer' like Bullzip)


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 8:05 AM, Chris Green wrote:

I'm running Gnucash 5.3 on xubuntu linux.

The "Make PDF" button on the toolbar just does exactly the same as the
"Print" button, it calls up the standard printer dialogue.

How can I get a report output as a PDF file?



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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

[Adrien Monteleone]

Chris,

It has been a few years since I played with it, but I helped set up WINE 
for someone precisely for an ancient Epson Scanner. (and that was with 
an old version of WINE which has come a long way recently)


You might be able to ditch that VM.

Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 3:41 AM, Chris Green wrote:

In my case now the only remaining thing that runs on my XP virtual
machine is some Epson scanner software.


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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

[Adrien Monteleone]

You can likely skip a few links in that chain with FreeDOS in a VM or 
another open version of it.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 10:07 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote:

This is the only way I know to still run 16-bit DOS programs
They will NOT run under recent Microsoft Windows (except maybe in DOS Box).

Quicken for DOS (Version 8.0, 1994)
  |
16-bit Microsoft DOS emulator (built into OS/2)
  |
32-bit OS/2 (IBM operating system; actually eComStation follow-on)
  |
32-bit Virtual Machine (Oracle VM VirtualBox)
  |
64-bit Linux (Fedora)
  |
64-bit x86 hardware (Intel Core i5 7th gen)
PS:  I do not see how to change the Subject line in gmail.
Should be:  Virtual Machine


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Re: [GNC] Deferred Income << the general case is "imputed income"

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm thinking of a case where someone starts using GnuCash either at the 
point they start taking disbursements or after. I'm about to help a 
family member in that exact situation.


While Deferred Income wasn't tracked along the way, I'll set up the 
account with the present total as an opening balance and have them 
transfer against that each distribution.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/15/24 8:47 PM, Jediator wrote:
I was wondering 
is it really necessary to create a separate deferred income account when 
you could just do a transaction report on your IRA account to see how 
much distribution you had in a year or a month?  -- JC


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Re: [GNC] Importing from one gnucash file to another

[Adrien Monteleone]

I've never used it myself, but I recall a discussion when the feature 
was added, I think for 4.x but it could have been earlier.


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/16/24 5:16 AM, David H wrote:

James,

I may be mis-remembering but I seem to recall when importing txns some time
ago there was a checkbox or option to specify the file to be imported was
in Gnucash format ?  Do you see this? Have you selected it ?


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 5.3 always gives me an dbind error at startup

[Chris Green]

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 09:10:16AM -0800, john wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Jan 12, 2024, at 13:09, Chris Green  wrote:
> > 
> > I recently upgraded my laptop to xubuntu 23.10 and that also upraded
> > gnucash to version 5.3.
> > 
> > Now, every time I start Gnucash I see the following error:-
> > 
> >chris$ gnucash -v
> > 
> >(gnucash:102770): dbind-WARNING **: 17:48:49.556: Couldn't connect
> > to accessibility bus: Failed
> > to connect to socket /root/.cache/at-spi/bus_0.0: Permission denied
> >GnuCash 5.3
> >Build ID: 5.3+(2023-06-26)
> > 
> > So, why is it trying to create/connect to a socket in /root? It's
> > bound to get a permission error.
> > 
> > It seems to run OK in spite of this.
> 
> That message is from Gtk and indicates that the packager for Gtk screwed 
> something up. You can either ignore the problem or raise a bug with Ubuntu. 
> 
OK, thanks, I'll ignore it! :-)

-- 
Chris Green
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Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist

[Paras Desai]

Thanks John for your prompt feedback.

Yes, I am posting it manually. Only down side is that i can not assign this 
income to that specific Mutual fund account and hence it does not reflects in 
Advance Portfolio Report, I guess.

Of course, this is not the big deal.

With my regards

Paras.

With regards
Paras

From: john 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:35:30 PM
To: Paras Desai 
Cc: GnuCash User List 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist



> On Jan 16, 2024, at 05:41, Paras Desai  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Greetings!
>
> I was trying to post the Dividend income from a Mutual Fund through Stock 
> Assist. But I encountered an issue. I am narrating my issue as below.
>
> When I receive the dividend, 10 % of TCS (Tax Collected at Source) is 
> deducted and deposited to the Tax authority on my behalf and the remaining 
> amount is paid to me. Such Tax deducted and deposited to Tax authority is My 
> Tax credit and in my books of account it should reflect as Assets (Tax Credit)
>
> So my posting should look like this
>
> Dividend : Rs 1000 Cr (Income Account : Income from Dividend)
>
> Cash : Rs 900 Dr (Asset Account : My Bank)
>
> Tax deducted : Rs100 Dr (Asset Account : Tax Credit)
>
> There is no expense involved in the transaction.
>
> Now, when I try to post this transaction through Stock Assist, It offers me 
> two options
>
> 1. Either I show the difference between the Dividend and Cash (which is Tax 
> deducted) as expense, or I capitalize. There is no option to post the 
> difference as tax credit in Assets account.
>
> AS a result, I need to post the transaction, with manual split, but in that 
> case, I'm afraid I can not show return in form of dividend income for the 
> Mutual Fund Account in portfolio report.
>
> Has anyone come across such a typical situation ?

That's not a scenario that's coded into the stock assistant so you'll have to 
enter it manually. Since dividend payments are presumably periodic it sounds 
like a good candidate for a scheduled transaction.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 5.3 always gives me an dbind error at startup

[john]

> On Jan 12, 2024, at 13:09, Chris Green  wrote:
> 
> I recently upgraded my laptop to xubuntu 23.10 and that also upraded
> gnucash to version 5.3.
> 
> Now, every time I start Gnucash I see the following error:-
> 
>chris$ gnucash -v
> 
>(gnucash:102770): dbind-WARNING **: 17:48:49.556: Couldn't connect
> to accessibility bus: Failed
> to connect to socket /root/.cache/at-spi/bus_0.0: Permission denied
>GnuCash 5.3
>Build ID: 5.3+(2023-06-26)
> 
> So, why is it trying to create/connect to a socket in /root? It's
> bound to get a permission error.
> 
> It seems to run OK in spite of this.

That message is from Gtk and indicates that the packager for Gtk screwed 
something up. You can either ignore the problem or raise a bug with Ubuntu.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist

[john]

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 05:41, Paras Desai  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Greetings!
> 
> I was trying to post the Dividend income from a Mutual Fund through Stock 
> Assist. But I encountered an issue. I am narrating my issue as below.
> 
> When I receive the dividend, 10 % of TCS (Tax Collected at Source) is 
> deducted and deposited to the Tax authority on my behalf and the remaining 
> amount is paid to me. Such Tax deducted and deposited to Tax authority is My 
> Tax credit and in my books of account it should reflect as Assets (Tax Credit)
> 
> So my posting should look like this
> 
> Dividend : Rs 1000 Cr (Income Account : Income from Dividend)
> 
> Cash : Rs 900 Dr (Asset Account : My Bank)
> 
> Tax deducted : Rs100 Dr (Asset Account : Tax Credit)
> 
> There is no expense involved in the transaction.
> 
> Now, when I try to post this transaction through Stock Assist, It offers me 
> two options
> 
> 1. Either I show the difference between the Dividend and Cash (which is Tax 
> deducted) as expense, or I capitalize. There is no option to post the 
> difference as tax credit in Assets account.
> 
> AS a result, I need to post the transaction, with manual split, but in that 
> case, I'm afraid I can not show return in form of dividend income for the 
> Mutual Fund Account in portfolio report.
> 
> Has anyone come across such a typical situation ?

That's not a scenario that's coded into the stock assistant so you'll have to 
enter it manually. Since dividend payments are presumably periodic it sounds 
like a good candidate for a scheduled transaction.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[Gyle McCollam]

Select "Save as PDF" as your printer.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Chris Green 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:05 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

I'm running Gnucash 5.3 on xubuntu linux.

The "Make PDF" button on the toolbar just does exactly the same as the
"Print" button, it calls up the standard printer dialogue.

How can I get a report output as a PDF file?

--
Chris Green
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[GNC] Gnucash 5.3 always gives me an dbind error at startup

[Chris Green]

I recently upgraded my laptop to xubuntu 23.10 and that also upraded
gnucash to version 5.3.

Now, every time I start Gnucash I see the following error:-

chris$ gnucash -v

(gnucash:102770): dbind-WARNING **: 17:48:49.556: Couldn't connect
to accessibility bus: Failed
to connect to socket /root/.cache/at-spi/bus_0.0: Permission denied
GnuCash 5.3
Build ID: 5.3+(2023-06-26)

So, why is it trying to create/connect to a socket in /root? It's
bound to get a permission error.

It seems to run OK in spite of this.

-- 
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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

[Fred Tydeman]

This is the only way I know to still run 16-bit DOS programs
They will NOT run under recent Microsoft Windows (except maybe in DOS Box).

Quicken for DOS (Version 8.0, 1994)
 |
16-bit Microsoft DOS emulator (built into OS/2)
 |
32-bit OS/2 (IBM operating system; actually eComStation follow-on)
 |
32-bit Virtual Machine (Oracle VM VirtualBox)
 |
64-bit Linux (Fedora)
 |
64-bit x86 hardware (Intel Core i5 7th gen)
PS:  I do not see how to change the Subject line in gmail.
Should be:  Virtual Machine
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[GNC] "Make PDF" button just prints

[Chris Green]

I'm running Gnucash 5.3 on xubuntu linux.

The "Make PDF" button on the toolbar just does exactly the same as the
"Print" button, it calls up the standard printer dialogue.

How can I get a report output as a PDF file?

-- 
Chris Green
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Re: [GNC] Idiot 101 question

[Chris Green]

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:27:24PM -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> I would recommend taking a few weeks learning how VM's work before doing it
> yourself,but for a person knowledgeable about VM's it would be
> straightforward if you can install or otherwise attach a physical drive to
> your computer then configure a VM to use it as it's primary drive.  I
> recommend having a knowledgeable friend do it.  I have been 'playing' with
> VM's for a couple of years now and I have been burned several times while
> learning how they work.  I still do not do anything serious solely in a VM.
> 
The only good reason I have found for using a VM is to allow me to run
old versions of Windows (XP in particular) in a relatively 'safe'
environment such that they won't get invaded/corrupted by intruders.

In my case now the only remaining thing that runs on my XP virtual
machine is some Epson scanner software.

Otherwise it's almost always easier to do things on a 'real' machine,
the virtual machine environment just introduces another layer of
possible issues.

-- 
Chris Green
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Re: [GNC] Deferred Income << the general case is "imputed income"

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 1/15/2024 9:47 PM, Jediator wrote:
I am not an accountant, so please excuse my ignorance.  I was 
wondering is it really necessary to create a separate deferred income 
account when you could just do a transaction report on your IRA 
account to see how much distribution you had in a year or a month?  -- JC


Yes of course, and you will get a 1099 for the distribution so you would 
be able to do your taxes using that.


But we are keeping books. The situation is different for those of us 
where money is still coming in to our IRA's or 401k's. Think for just a 
moment how you would be recording your salary as it came in. PART of 
what you are getting, both your contribution and the employer's match is 
NOT going to be reflected in your current taxable income. It is deferred 
income. You presumably DO want that reflected as adding to your net worth.


For those of us at the other end, those distributions might be a 
significant fraction of our (actual) income. If you aren't having the 
distribution showing up as (part of) income, you are likely to have 
expenses totaling more than income. You presumably do want a realistic 
Statement of Revenues and Expenses (P&L)


Michael D Novack




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[GNC] Posting of Dividend through Stock Assist

[Paras Desai]

Hello,

Greetings!

I was trying to post the Dividend income from a Mutual Fund through 
Stock Assist. But I encountered an issue. I am narrating my issue as below.


When I receive the dividend, 10 % of TCS (Tax Collected at Source) is 
deducted and deposited to the Tax authority on my behalf and the 
remaining amount is paid to me. Such Tax deducted and deposited to Tax 
authority is My Tax credit and in my books of account it should reflect 
as Assets (Tax Credit)


So my posting should look like this

Dividend : Rs 1000 Cr (Income Account : Income from Dividend)

Cash : Rs 900 Dr (Asset Account : My Bank)

Tax deducted : Rs100 Dr (Asset Account : Tax Credit)

There is no expense involved in the transaction.

Now, when I try to post this transaction through Stock Assist, It offers 
me two options


1. Either I show the difference between the Dividend and Cash (which is 
Tax deducted) as expense, or I capitalize. There is no option to post 
the difference as tax credit in Assets account.


AS a result, I need to post the transaction, with manual split, but in 
that case, I'm afraid I can not show return in form of dividend income 
for the Mutual Fund Account in portfolio report.


Has anyone come across such a typical situation ?

Thanks

Paras

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Re: [GNC] Feature request: Import assistant, room for big improvements

[Kalpesh Patel]

If you make a mistake or error in import, are you going back to Bayesian 
matcher to tell it that a mistake was made? Those is via 'Tools' -> 'Import 
Match Editor' navigation 
There is also 'Show matched information' check box that gives you everything on 
both sides of the transaction. If you select 'U+C' or 'C', you can also double 
click on it to give you more information on all matching transactions.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Lam  
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 1:56 AM
To: davidcousen...@gmail.com
Cc: GnuCash users group 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Feature request: Import assistant, room for big improvements

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, 2:13 pm David Cousens, 
wrote:

>
> I haven't yet imported anything under v5.5. but will be catching up in 
> a few days. Being able to edit/add data to the description and or memo 
> fields would be something I would find useful too as the imported bank 
> data often has limited info about what the purchase was for


(Bis) have you tried right click the transaction(s) during the import matching 
process?


>
>
> David Cousens
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2024-01-15 at 22:48 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> > Which import assistant is being discussed here?  The Generic 
> > assistant behind the OFX and QIF imports is quite limited in placing 
> > new
> transactions
> > into the desired account or in matching incoming transactions to 
> > correct pre-existing transactions, but the new CSV transaction 
> > importer is
> better,
> > if harder to configure optimally.  Also, I think they all have 
> > changed in recent GnuCash releases, so tell us which release you are 
> > currently
> using.
> >
> > I doubt that the Generic assistant can be improved very much unless 
> > it is completely rewritten.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM Phyllis Bruce 
> wrote:
> >
> > > 👍
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jan 15, 2024, at 10:17 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > No, I would call that the description.
> > > > -derek
> > > > Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
> > > >
> > > > > On January 15, 2024 23:06:07 Phyllis Bruce 
> > > > > 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, David.  I think I am being unclear.  My research 
> > > > > provides
> what
> > > you
> > > > > call the transfer account for unmatched items.  That's all good.
> It is
> > > the
> > > > > memo field which I use to remind me of what I did that is not
> available
> > > in
> > > > > the reconciliation screen.  For instance I want to remember 
> > > > > that I
> paid
> > > > > Amazon for *smart plugs*, or Sandi paid me $70 for *her share 
> > > > > of
> > > groceries
> > > > > at Christmas*.  Would you call that the "action"?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 3:21 PM David Cousens <
> davidcousen...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ulrich,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is nothing to stop you supplying the transfer account
> > > information in
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > import record if it is available. There is a header which 
> > > > > > can be
> > > assigned
> > > > > > to the
> > > > > > appropriate column of your input file for the transfer account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The first time you import with a given account name in he 
> > > > > > record
> you
> > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > asked to specify the internal GnuCash account to which it
> corresponds.
> > > > > > After
> > > > > > that it will be matched to that account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Bayesian process only assigns a probable account in 
> > > > > > cases
> where
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > import
> > > > > > record does not specify the  transfer account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Cousens
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 2024-01-15 at 20:17 +0100, Ulrich Grün wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello fellow GnuCash users,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wonder if there are plans on improving the import 
> > > > > > > filter, for
> > > importing
> > > > > > > bank transfers.
> > > > > > > The situation now is, that some hidden engine tries to 
> > > > > > > learn
> from
> > > doing.
> > > > > > > But the truth is, that even after one year of importing 
> > > > > > > bank
> > > transfers, I
> > > > > > > have to check every single transaction, since errors keep
> occurring.
> > > If I
> > > > > > > miss an error, this transaction is put in the wrong ledger
> account.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > E-boekhouden.nl uses an import assistant where you can 
> > > > > > > specify
> a
> > > ledger
> > > > > > > account number, other keywords and/or amounts of money. 
> > > > > > > The
> import
> > > > > > > assistant puts the transactions into the right ledger 
> > > > > > > account,
> with
> > > far
> > > > > > > less errors than with GnuCash. In fact, only where a 
> > > > > > > specific keyword, leger number or amount is missing, or 
> > > > > > > where no import rule is
> made
> > > for a
> > > > > > > specific payment, the transaction has to be placed into 
> > > > > > > the
> right
> > > gener

Re: [GNC] Feature request: Import assistant, room for big improvements

[Kalpesh Patel]

Use the 'Append' capabilities to keep both sets of information in the 
description firld. In the matcher window you will see a ability to check box at 
the bottom of the matches. Albeit it changes your workflows and with few import 
iteration you'll be able to keep track of both info. I wish there was per 
transaction selection rather than all or nothing deal for that import iteration.

-Original Message-
From: David Cousens  
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 1:13 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Feature request: Import assistant, room for big improvements

>From memory David the import matcher process is common to all the front 
>ends to
read different file formats. It's been a while since I went through the code 
after Geert rewrote the CSV front end but I doubt that it has changed all that 
much. I have found the Bayesian matcher works fairly well apart from a few 
specific transactions where there is insufficient information in the data 
record to correctly assign. I typically only have to manually assign may be 10 
records out of more than 50-60 records imported for my credit card account each 
month.

I haven't yet imported anything under v5.5. but will be catching up in a few 
days. Being able to edit/add data to the description and or memo fields would 
be something I would find useful too as the imported bank data often has 
limited info about what the purchase was for 
 

David Cousens




On Mon, 2024-01-15 at 22:48 -0600, David Carlson wrote:
> Which import assistant is being discussed here?  The Generic assistant 
> behind the OFX and QIF imports is quite limited in placing new 
> transactions into the desired account or in matching incoming 
> transactions to correct pre-existing transactions, but the new CSV 
> transaction importer is better, if harder to configure optimally.  
> Also, I think they all have changed in recent GnuCash releases, so tell us 
> which release you are currently using.
> 
> I doubt that the Generic assistant can be improved very much unless it 
> is completely rewritten.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM Phyllis Bruce  wrote:
> 
> > 👍
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 15, 2024, at 10:17 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > No, I would call that the description.
> > > -derek
> > > Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
> > > 
> > > > On January 15, 2024 23:06:07 Phyllis Bruce  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, David.  I think I am being unclear.  My research 
> > > > provides what
> > you
> > > > call the transfer account for unmatched items.  That's all good.  
> > > > It is
> > the
> > > > memo field which I use to remind me of what I did that is not 
> > > > available
> > in
> > > > the reconciliation screen.  For instance I want to remember that 
> > > > I paid Amazon for *smart plugs*, or Sandi paid me $70 for *her 
> > > > share of
> > groceries
> > > > at Christmas*.  Would you call that the "action"?
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 3:21 PM David Cousens 
> > > >  > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Ulrich,
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is nothing to stop you supplying the transfer account
> > information in
> > > > > an
> > > > > import record if it is available. There is a header which can 
> > > > > be
> > assigned
> > > > > to the
> > > > > appropriate column of your input file for the transfer account.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The first time you import with a given account name in he 
> > > > > record you
> > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > asked to specify the internal GnuCash account to which it corresponds.
> > > > > After
> > > > > that it will be matched to that account.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Bayesian process only assigns a probable account in cases 
> > > > > where the import record does not specify the  transfer 
> > > > > account.
> > > > > 
> > > > > David Cousens
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, 2024-01-15 at 20:17 +0100, Ulrich Grün wrote:
> > > > > > Hello fellow GnuCash users,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I wonder if there are plans on improving the import filter, 
> > > > > > for
> > importing
> > > > > > bank transfers.
> > > > > > The situation now is, that some hidden engine tries to learn 
> > > > > > from
> > doing.
> > > > > > But the truth is, that even after one year of importing bank
> > transfers, I
> > > > > > have to check every single transaction, since errors keep occurring.
> > If I
> > > > > > miss an error, this transaction is put in the wrong ledger account.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > E-boekhouden.nl uses an import assistant where you can 
> > > > > > specify a
> > ledger
> > > > > > account number, other keywords and/or amounts of money. The 
> > > > > > import assistant puts the transactions into the right ledger 
> > > > > > account, with
> > far
> > > > > > less errors than with GnuCash. In fact, only where a 
> > > > > > specific keyword, leger number or amount is missing, or 
> > > > > > where no import rule is made
> > for a
> > > > > > specific payment, the transaction has to b

Re: [GNC] Importing from one gnucash file to another

[David H]

James,

I may be mis-remembering but I seem to recall when importing txns some time
ago there was a checkbox or option to specify the file to be imported was
in Gnucash format ?  Do you see this? Have you selected it ?

Regards David H.


On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 06:33, James Wilde  wrote:

> I am rationalising my accounting in Gnucash and have previously had one
> instance of Gnucash for each year.  I now would like to load an eyara
> into the current year.  I have exported the earlier year as a csv file
> (I have used semi-colons instead of commas) but when I go to the current
> year to import it does not seem to be a possibility. It appears as
> though I must in some way edit the exported file in order to import it.
>
> Both the earlier year and the current year have the same account list.
> I am using Build ID: 4.12+(2022-09-24).
>
> I'd appreciate a hint on what I might be missing.
>
> Regards
>
> James Wilde
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