Re: [GNC] Need help with eBay - tagging multiple sales into one payout hitting checking two business days later

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 6/1/2024 4:39 PM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:

I like to record my checks written on the day they were written, not cashed, 
but am frustrated that then I cannot check when they cleared!


Well technically should be recorded when delivered, with delivered 
meaning "constructively delivered" << when you mail them >> You should 
NOT be tracking "float". Legally that money isn't yours any more even 
though sitting in your bank account until the check clears. The reason 
that just WRITING the check (that date) has no meaning is until you send 
it, could just change your mind and rip it up. But as many do, I use the 
date written even though might not be be immediately picked up by the PO 
<< say I put in the mailbox after collection on Saturday and Monday is a 
Federal holiday -- won't get postmarked till Tuesday at the earliest -- 
the postmark date has legal significance >>


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Need help with eBay - tagging multiple sales into one payout hitting checking two business days later

[David Cousens]

David,

AFAIK the reconcile "R" column has three settings ,"n","c","y". If you
manually record a transaction it should be set at "n". The "c" setting
indicates that a transaction has been cleared and can be set to this
when for example the money either appears in your account or when it
has been taken out of your account. It is set to "y" when you do a
reconciliation against a statement.

David Cousens
 

On Sat, 2024-06-01 at 20:39 +, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user
wrote:
> I like to record my checks written on the day they were written, not
> cashed, but am frustrated that then I cannot check when they
> cleared!  Float is nice, especially if you get interest, but not
> something I bank on!  :D  Similarly, one bank puts a 3 day hold on
> transfers, so the money goes out one day and shows up in the other
> account 3-5 days later!  Maybe another field would be nice?  I don't
> want to create a limbo account and two transactions to hold the value
> when it is floating!
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Re: [GNC] Need help with eBay - tagging multiple sales into one payout hitting checking two business days later

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

I like to record my checks written on the day they were written, not cashed, 
but am frustrated that then I cannot check when they cleared!  Float is nice, 
especially if you get interest, but not something I bank on!  :D  Similarly, 
one bank puts a 3 day hold on transfers, so the money goes out one day and 
shows up in the other account 3-5 days later!  Maybe another field would be 
nice?  I don't want to create a limbo account and two transactions to hold the 
value when it is floating!
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Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

I was recently feeling a similar vibe as I had income taxes in expenses and 
refunds in income, but they are really algebraically the same thing of opposite 
sign until you get into US tax code of itemized deductions making them 
different.  The tax report does somewhat marry them back together.  As I am a 
standard deduction guy for the last few years, I forget the exact place it 
binds you up, maybe state/city tax refunds and itemization.
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Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

In the realm of enhancement suggestions, if there was a special top level 
folder of named sets of books, and each named set of books could have its own 
income, expense, equity, assets, liabilities.  Then you could work a hierarchy 
of books in one gnucash instance.
The entries in those books could even be shadowed by being linked into the 
master folders of income, expense, equity, assets, liabilities (rather like 
hard links in files -- changing either changes both), with reports knowing they 
should run in one tree or the other to avoid doubling items.  The xml world 
would record them in the folder of books but the xml to C++ loader would know 
to also link the transactions to the master set of folders.

Reports might even run on the entire folder of books, preceding the report on 
each set of books with a header in the report.

Alternatively, gnucash could have a way to include multiple gnucash instances 
by reference into a parent instance, with the reporting behaviors described 
above.  When loading the parent instance, the trans in every child would be 
linked also into the parent income, expense, equity, asset, liability folders.  
Gnucash in the children would not change, but all the new behaviors are tied to 
working in a parent folder.  It begs the idea of a grandparent folder, i. e., 
unlimited levels of hierarchy, with a hierarchy of headers and subtotals in 
reports.  And it imposes/suggests the idea that all transactions have to be in 
'leaf' books, either a feature or a problem.
No idea how these might be kept separate in an RDBMS supported instance, but 
let's assume a separate schema for each 'leaf' set of books.
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Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[Bruno Barros]

Seems like an uninstall (used revo to remove any registry entries related
to GnuCash and remnant files) and re-install has solved the problem. Guess
I could have tried that to begin with. Thanks for everyone's help! Problem
solved.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 12:53 PM Ken Pyzik  wrote:

> One more thing to try.  It is possible that your version of GNUcash got
> stepped-on by something else.  If all other troubleshooting to this point
> has failed, de-install the version you have – and them re-install the
> latest version from SorgeForce or wherever you get your latest versions.
> Upon re-installation – see if the same behavior exists
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Bruno Barros 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2024 9:47 AM
> *To:* Ken Pyzik 
> *Cc:* sunfis...@yahoo.com; Gnucash Users 
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation
>
>
>
> The context menu was a great idea. Hadn't thought of that. I had changed
> the registry to revert to the old windows context menu so thought maybe it
> was related to that. However, when I reverted back to the new context menu,
> it did not resolve the issue.
>
> Currently updating finance:quote but I doubt it's that. I've had
> finance:quote installed for a while now and it never messed with GnuCash
> before.
>
>
>
> Wondering if there may be some other context menu hide registry entry.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 12:02 PM Ken Pyzik  wrote:
>
> I am currently running Win 11 Build 5.6 and have no issue with the new
> account option:
>
>
>
>
>
> When I click on “NEW”; the new account menu opens and a new accounts can
> be added with no issue.   One difference - I do NOT have finance quote
> installed.
>
>
>
> I suspect that the window is being hidden on you for some reason.  Try
> rebooting your machine and starting from scratch and see if you see the
> same behavior.  If you still have the same behavior, then your registry may
> have a setting that is telling windows to hide the context menu – or the
> finance quote may have overwritten something (just a couple of thoughts).
>
>
>
> Also, see if any other apps demonstrate the same behavior.  If they do –
> google search Context Menu hidden and see if that helps.  These are only my
> personal suggestions.  Hope they help.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user 
> On Behalf Of Bruno Barros
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:44 AM
> To: sunfis...@yahoo.com
> Cc: Peter Cuthbert via gnucash-user 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation
>
>
>
> I do have multiple screens and I thought that at first. But not showing up
> on that screen either. Plus on the taskbar only the main GnuCash window is
> showing.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:40 AM sunfis...@yahoo.com 
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Multiple screens?
>
> >
>
> > ⁣David T.​
>
> >
>
> > On Jun 1, 2024, 6:30 PM, at 6:30 PM, Bruno Barros 
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right
>
> > >click and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the
>
> > >GnuCash window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up
>
> > >appears to create the account.
>
> > >I'm on the latest 5.6 version
>
> > >
>
> > >Win 11
>
> > >Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)
>
> > >Also have finance quote 1.59 installed
>
> > >
>
> > >Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.
>
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Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[Ken Pyzik]

One more thing to try.  It is possible that your version of GNUcash got 
stepped-on by something else.  If all other troubleshooting to this point has 
failed, de-install the version you have – and them re-install the latest 
version from SorgeForce or wherever you get your latest versions.  Upon 
re-installation – see if the same behavior exists

Ken

From: Bruno Barros 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 9:47 AM
To: Ken Pyzik 
Cc: sunfis...@yahoo.com; Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

The context menu was a great idea. Hadn't thought of that. I had changed the 
registry to revert to the old windows context menu so thought maybe it was 
related to that. However, when I reverted back to the new context menu, it did 
not resolve the issue.
Currently updating finance:quote but I doubt it's that. I've had finance:quote 
installed for a while now and it never messed with GnuCash before.

Wondering if there may be some other context menu hide registry entry.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 12:02 PM Ken Pyzik 
mailto:py...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I am currently running Win 11 Build 5.6 and have no issue with the new account 
option:



[cid:image001.png@01DAB409.9989C820]



When I click on “NEW”; the new account menu opens and a new accounts can be 
added with no issue.   One difference - I do NOT have finance quote installed.



I suspect that the window is being hidden on you for some reason.  Try 
rebooting your machine and starting from scratch and see if you see the same 
behavior.  If you still have the same behavior, then your registry may have a 
setting that is telling windows to hide the context menu – or the finance quote 
may have overwritten something (just a couple of thoughts).



Also, see if any other apps demonstrate the same behavior.  If they do – google 
search Context Menu hidden and see if that helps.  These are only my personal 
suggestions.  Hope they help.



Ken







-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
mailto:outlook@gnucash.org>>
 On Behalf Of Bruno Barros
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:44 AM
To: sunfis...@yahoo.com
Cc: Peter Cuthbert via gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation



I do have multiple screens and I thought that at first. But not showing up on 
that screen either. Plus on the taskbar only the main GnuCash window is showing.



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:40 AM sunfis...@yahoo.com 
mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com>>

wrote:



> Multiple screens?

>

> ⁣David T.​

>

> On Jun 1, 2024, 6:30 PM, at 6:30 PM, Bruno Barros 
> mailto:cho...@gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right

> >click and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the

> >GnuCash window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up

> >appears to create the account.

> >I'm on the latest 5.6 version

> >

> >Win 11

> >Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)

> >Also have finance quote 1.59 installed

> >

> >Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.

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Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[Bruno Barros]

The context menu was a great idea. Hadn't thought of that. I had changed
the registry to revert to the old windows context menu so thought maybe it
was related to that. However, when I reverted back to the new context menu,
it did not resolve the issue.
Currently updating finance:quote but I doubt it's that. I've had
finance:quote installed for a while now and it never messed with GnuCash
before.

Wondering if there may be some other context menu hide registry entry.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 12:02 PM Ken Pyzik  wrote:

> I am currently running Win 11 Build 5.6 and have no issue with the new
> account option:
>
>
>
>
>
> When I click on “NEW”; the new account menu opens and a new accounts can
> be added with no issue.   One difference - I do NOT have finance quote
> installed.
>
>
>
> I suspect that the window is being hidden on you for some reason.  Try
> rebooting your machine and starting from scratch and see if you see the
> same behavior.  If you still have the same behavior, then your registry may
> have a setting that is telling windows to hide the context menu – or the
> finance quote may have overwritten something (just a couple of thoughts).
>
>
>
> Also, see if any other apps demonstrate the same behavior.  If they do –
> google search Context Menu hidden and see if that helps.  These are only my
> personal suggestions.  Hope they help.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user 
> On Behalf Of Bruno Barros
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:44 AM
> To: sunfis...@yahoo.com
> Cc: Peter Cuthbert via gnucash-user 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation
>
>
>
> I do have multiple screens and I thought that at first. But not showing up
> on that screen either. Plus on the taskbar only the main GnuCash window is
> showing.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:40 AM sunfis...@yahoo.com 
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Multiple screens?
>
> >
>
> > ⁣David T.​
>
> >
>
> > On Jun 1, 2024, 6:30 PM, at 6:30 PM, Bruno Barros 
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right
>
> > >click and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the
>
> > >GnuCash window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up
>
> > >appears to create the account.
>
> > >I'm on the latest 5.6 version
>
> > >
>
> > >Win 11
>
> > >Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)
>
> > >Also have finance quote 1.59 installed
>
> > >
>
> > >Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.
>
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Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[Ken Pyzik]

I am currently running Win 11 Build 5.6 and have no issue with the new account 
option:



[cid:image001.png@01DAB402.2DC30220]



When I click on “NEW”; the new account menu opens and a new accounts can be 
added with no issue.   One difference - I do NOT have finance quote installed.



I suspect that the window is being hidden on you for some reason.  Try 
rebooting your machine and starting from scratch and see if you see the same 
behavior.  If you still have the same behavior, then your registry may have a 
setting that is telling windows to hide the context menu – or the finance quote 
may have overwritten something (just a couple of thoughts).



Also, see if any other apps demonstrate the same behavior.  If they do – google 
search Context Menu hidden and see if that helps.  These are only my personal 
suggestions.  Hope they help.



Ken







-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Bruno Barros
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:44 AM
To: sunfis...@yahoo.com
Cc: Peter Cuthbert via gnucash-user 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation



I do have multiple screens and I thought that at first. But not showing up on 
that screen either. Plus on the taskbar only the main GnuCash window is showing.



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:40 AM sunfis...@yahoo.com 
mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com>>

wrote:



> Multiple screens?

>

> ⁣David T.​

>

> On Jun 1, 2024, 6:30 PM, at 6:30 PM, Bruno Barros 
> mailto:cho...@gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right

> >click and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the

> >GnuCash window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up

> >appears to create the account.

> >I'm on the latest 5.6 version

> >

> >Win 11

> >Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)

> >Also have finance quote 1.59 installed

> >

> >Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.

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Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[Bruno Barros]

I do have multiple screens and I thought that at first. But not showing up
on that screen either. Plus on the taskbar only the main GnuCash window is
showing.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:40 AM sunfis...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

> Multiple screens?
>
> ⁣David T.​
>
> On Jun 1, 2024, 6:30 PM, at 6:30 PM, Bruno Barros 
> wrote:
> >Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right
> >click
> >and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the GnuCash
> >window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up appears
> >to
> >create the account.
> >I'm on the latest 5.6 version
> >
> >Win 11
> >Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)
> >Also have finance quote 1.59 installed
> >
> >Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.
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Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[sunfish62--- via gnucash-user]

Multiple screens?

⁣David T.​

On Jun 1, 2024, 6:30 PM, at 6:30 PM, Bruno Barros  wrote:
>Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right
>click
>and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the GnuCash
>window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up appears
>to
>create the account.
>I'm on the latest 5.6 version
>
>Win 11
>Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)
>Also have finance quote 1.59 installed
>
>Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.
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[GNC] Problem with New Account Creation

[Bruno Barros]

Recently starting having trouble creating new accounts. When I right click
and select the New Account option, GnuCash "flashes" (as if the GnuCash
window is getting selected and then deselected) but no pop up appears to
create the account.
I'm on the latest 5.6 version

Win 11
Build ID: 5.6+ (2024-03-30)
Also have finance quote 1.59 installed

Thanks in advance for any help or ideas of what might be the cause.
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Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts

[Michael or Penny Novack]

I doubt it. If they are all reported as part of the one tax return they are
enterprises rather than entities. Entity finances are normally kept
separate with separate tax returns, bank accounts and cashbook files
(despite what can be done).


How reported on taxes not a factor on whether multiple sets of books kept.

Remember, I go back to the days of pen and ink on paper. Subsidiary sets 
of books not unusual. There might be "petty cash" (which might even have 
ts own bank account), a "cash book"  (and perhaps a physical cash box) , 
etc. The TOTALS from these subsidiary books  ended up in the main 
ledger, and THAT from where taxes figured, etc. (the subsidiary books 
not involved with tax filings, etc.)


However -- today, those who wanted multiple sets of books so as to make 
easy separating enterprises << by treating as entities >> probably would 
want to skip that step as unfamiliar with the work flow process of 
formally "closing" into the main ledger. Easier to just total outside of 
gnucash. Since I usually advocate for "formal" this might surprise you, 
but I'd think doing it "right" would definitely require finding a text 
that provided examples << say how a petty cash set of books connected to 
the main ledger; usually done each time the petty cash fund was 
refreshed* >> Seeing it done for one sort of subsidiary books would 
guide for other sorts.


LOL -- you can even use gnucash to track a VIRTUAL entity. For example, 
I wanted to track our solar system << how long did it take to pay itself 
off >> figured correctly, time value of money, affect on our property 
insurance premium, taxes it made us liable for, etc. The easiest way was 
to treat the solar system as if it were an entity operating on borrowed 
capital (borrowed from us), paying off this loan by getting tax credits 
for us, selling SRECs for us, paying our electric bill, etc.  << at the 
present time, paid off, so accumulating a virtual "repair and 
replacement fund".


Michael D Novack

* If done THEN (when being "refreshed") the total of debits and credits 
going to main books and to the petty cash fund will be the same -- the 
amount needed to refresh the petty cash fund to its original amount is 
the total of expenses since the last time. In other words, the same 
transaction in both main books and petty cash books except debits and 
credits reversed.



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Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts

[Paras Desai]

Hello David,

Oh yes, my mistake 﫢
thanks for correcting !

Best regards

Paras


01-Jun-2024 11:53:59 am sunfis...@yahoo.com:

Thanks for the insights. For the record, the app you're intending to reference 
is "skrooge" not "skoorage".

David T.
On Jun 1, 2024, at 8:20 AM, Paras Desai 
mailto:desaipa...@outlook.com>> wrote:

On 31-05-2024 20:46, 
gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
 Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts


My two cent on the topic 

Before I zeroed in to GNU Cash for my personal finance accounting, I
evaluated many open source softwares like Money manager Ex, Skoorage,
Kmymoney and likes and eventually I decided to settle in GNC for
multiple reasons.

However, I remember one feature (either in skoorage or Kmymoney), which
has a feature of grouping Chart of Accounts (COA) Institution wise.

While posting the transaction, one can select the Institution and
transaction flows in that institution. While generating report, one can
generate report for all Institutions or for an individual institution.

Now, this “Institution” can be an either a family member, or a company
or a company business division.

This feature is very relevant, if one wishes to monitor family finance
along with individual finance, or separate business line finance.

So configuration can be like Family (All Institutions)-->
Institution1(family Member 1) + Institution2(Family member2) and so on.

GNC manages accounts as an individual file. So, to achieve above, if a
report can be developed to combine multiple files (Accounts) to generate
a report !

Of course, this is a suggestion of a layman, without giving cognizance
to the technicality involved and basic software structure of the GNC and
limitations.

I just thought of sharing this idea, when I came across the discussion
on the topic.

With my best regards


Paras





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Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts

[sunfish62--- via gnucash-user]

Thanks for the insights. For the record, the app you're intending to reference 
is "skrooge" not "skoorage".

⁣David T. ​

On Jun 1, 2024, 8:20 AM, at 8:20 AM, Paras Desai  wrote:
>
>On 31-05-2024 20:46, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
>> Re: [GNC] Adding ASSETS & LIABILITIES to sub accounts
>
>
>My two cent on the topic 
>
>Before I zeroed in to GNU Cash for my personal finance accounting, I 
>evaluated many open source softwares like Money manager Ex, Skoorage, 
>Kmymoney and likes and eventually I decided to settle in GNC for 
>multiple reasons.
>
>However, I remember one feature (either in skoorage or Kmymoney), which
>
>has a feature of grouping Chart of Accounts (COA) Institution wise.
>
>While posting the transaction, one can select the Institution and 
>transaction flows in that institution. While generating report, one can
>
>generate report for all Institutions or for an individual institution.
>
>Now, this “Institution” can be an either a family member, or a company 
>or a company business division.
>
>This feature is very relevant, if one wishes to monitor family finance 
>along with individual finance, or separate business line finance.
>
>So configuration can be like Family (All Institutions)--> 
>Institution1(family Member 1) + Institution2(Family member2) and so on.
>
>GNC manages accounts as an individual file. So, to achieve above, if a 
>report can be developed to combine multiple files (Accounts) to
>generate 
>a report !
>
>Of course, this is a suggestion of a layman, without giving cognizance 
>to the technicality involved and basic software structure of the GNC
>and 
>limitations.
>
>I just thought of sharing this idea, when I came across the discussion 
>on the topic.
>
>With my best regards
>
>
>Paras
>
>
>
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