Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest,new question

[Adrien Monteleone]

Eric,

This is an accounting question. I'd suggest you should instead be using 
a 'Salaries Payable' or similar liability account for the labor portions.


This may or may not be the same text you are referencing, but check out 
this explanation:


https://www.principlesofaccounting.com/chapter-19/tracking-job-costs/

(note, they break up the material, labor & overhead entries, but you can 
certainly combine them if that fits your business better)


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/23/24 8:34 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

Entering my labor, parts and supplies would look like this:
Assets:Jobs:xx:WIP 500.00
:Direct Labor   120.00
Assets: Stock   20.00
:Direct Labor360.00

1. If I use "Expenses:Direct Labor" as the credit account then those account 
balances are all negative (which, at least, looks weird in an expense journal)
2. If i use "Income:Direct Labor" the balances are positive.

With settings #2 all the tax reports look correct. I didn't check during #1 
settings.
Which one is correct? Does GnuCash care about the negative balance? Is there a 
better way log it?


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest,new question

[Eric Hammond]

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I have completely replaced my defunct Quicken with GnuCash, and now trying to 
get the details fine-tuned:
I am using Job cost accounting for my business, 
My main resource is from the OpenStax book - "Principles of Accounting, Volume 
2: Managerial Accounting" page224 - 226
And a lot of internet searches...

Entering my labor, parts and supplies would look like this:
Assets:Jobs:xx:WIP 500.00
:Direct Labor   120.00
Assets: Stock   20.00
:Direct Labor360.00

1. If I use "Expenses:Direct Labor" as the credit account then those account 
balances are all negative (which, at least, looks weird in an expense journal)
2. If i use "Income:Direct Labor" the balances are positive.

With settings #2 all the tax reports look correct. I didn't check during #1 
settings. 
Which one is correct? Does GnuCash care about the negative balance? Is there a 
better way log it?

Thank you for a great accounting tool, and all your help.

Eric Hammond
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 87

[Mark Sattolo]

Yes, that fixed it. I added *'env WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1'* to
the exec in my .desktop file and reports now render properly.
I also found variations of this fix online as well. One person said that
putting this line in '/etc/gnucash/environment' solved the problem for him.
That didn't work for me though, not sure why, unless the gnucash
environment file is just a relic...?

Working now in any case. Thanks for the response.


*Mark*





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> From: Dennis West 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 21:59:35 -0500
> Subject: [GNC] Backup Solution - Linux Desktop to Synology NAS
> Hopefully this info will help someone that has been struggling with this
> issue...
>
> I recently abandoned Windows (after 40 years) and moved to Linux as my
> "Daily Driver".  I had used Synology's Active Backup for Business to
> backup my desktop PC's to my Synology NAS and was happy as a lark.
> Trying to install the desktop client for that program on a Linux PC was
> problematic at best.  I finally gave up.
>
> After using other solutions for several weeks I stumbled on the fact
> that Synology had another program called Synology Drive that you could
> download from their website.  Lo and behold the desktop client came in a
> Linux version that downloaded and installed simply & flawlessly.  The
> client provides all the bells & whistles including scheduled automatic
> backup to your NAS. Obviously you could continue to use Hyper Backup to
> backup your NAS to the cloud and complete the 3-2-1 backup strategy that
> I had been using.
>
> If everyone else here already knew all this, I'm sorry to have wasted
> your time.
>
> One Happy Camper
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Alan Hopkins 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 13:23:06 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Backup Solution - Linux Desktop to Synology NAS
>Hi Dennis
>This is after the fact, but I use a program call SyncThing - it syncs
>my PC's (2 laptops, 1 desktop) which all run Linux and as well, there
>is third party SyncThing app for my Synology NAS.  Syncing is not
>really the same as backing-up but, as I have effectively have the same
>files on different drives, I feel happier about it but backup
>nevertheless. The beauty of it is that I can log on to any PC and have
>the same info (assuming they have all been on the LAN together).
>I don't, but I know people also use it with their phones.
>Cheers
>Hop
>
>On 27/9/24 12:59, Dennis West wrote:
>
>  Hopefully this info will help someone that has been struggling with
>  this issue...
>  I recently abandoned Windows (after 40 years) and moved to Linux as
>  my "Daily Driver".  I had used Synology's Active Backup for Business
>  to backup my desktop PC's to my Synology NAS and was happy as a
>  lark.  Trying to install the desktop client for that program on a
>  Linux PC was problematic at best.  I finally gave up.
>  After using other solutions for several weeks I stumbled on the fact
>  that Synology had another program called Synology Drive that you
>  could download from their website.  Lo and behold the desktop client
>  came in a Linux version that downloaded and installed simply &
>  flawlessly.  The client provides all the bells & whistles including
>  scheduled automatic backup to your NAS. Obviously you could continue
>  to use Hyper Backup to backup your NAS to the cloud and complete the
>  3-2-1 backup strategy that I had been using.
>  If everyone else here already knew all this, I'm sorry to have
>  wasted your time.
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 87

[rsbrux via gnucash-user]

I have what I think is a simpler solution. My GC data file resides on my 
Synology NAS, in a directory that is mounted in the Linux file system.  I then 
use Synology Hyper Backup to back up all of the user files every night to one 
of two alternating USB drives, the other of which is always stored outside of 
my apartment.  Hyper Backup allows me to retrieve earlier versions with 
decreasing granularity: recent versions daily, older versions weekly and even 
older versions monthly. Of course, this kind of backup could also be done with 
rsync or with MEGA backup, but I found it easier to set up with Synology Hyper 
Backup.
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 13:23:06 +1000
> From: Alan Hopkins 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Backup Solution - Linux Desktop to Synology NAS
> Message-ID: <458802e6-3a48-4626-959f-248d3b264...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
>   Hi Dennis
>   This is after the fact, but I use a program call SyncThing - it syncs
>   my PC's (2 laptops, 1 desktop) which all run Linux and as well, there
>   is third party SyncThing app for my Synology NAS.  Syncing is not
>   really the same as backing-up but, as I have effectively have the same
>   files on different drives, I feel happier about it but backup
>   nevertheless. The beauty of it is that I can log on to any PC and have
>   the same info (assuming they have all been on the LAN together).
>   I don't, but I know people also use it with their phones.
>   Cheers
>   Hop
> 
>   On 27/9/24 12:59, Dennis West wrote:
> 
> Hopefully this info will help someone that has been struggling with
> this issue...
> I recently abandoned Windows (after 40 years) and moved to Linux as
> my "Daily Driver".  I had used Synology's Active Backup for Business
> to backup my desktop PC's to my Synology NAS and was happy as a
> lark.  Trying to install the desktop client for that program on a
> Linux PC was problematic at best.  I finally gave up.
> After using other solutions for several weeks I stumbled on the fact
> that Synology had another program called Synology Drive that you
> could download from their website.  Lo and behold the desktop client
> came in a Linux version that downloaded and installed simply &
> flawlessly.  The client provides all the bells & whistles including
> scheduled automatic backup to your NAS. Obviously you could continue
> to use Hyper Backup to backup your NAS to the cloud and complete the
> 3-2-1 backup strategy that I had been using.
> If everyone else here already knew all this, I'm sorry to have
> wasted your time.
> One Happy Camper
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 07:35:26 +0100
> From: Chris Green 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Backup Solution - Linux Desktop to Synology NAS
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 01:23:06PM +1000, Alan Hopkins wrote:
>>   Hi Dennis
>>   This is after the fact, but I use a program call SyncThing - it syncs
>>   my PC's (2 laptops, 1 desktop) which all run Linux and as well, there
>>   is third party SyncThing app for my Synology NAS.  Syncing is not
>>   really the same as backing-up but, as I have effectively have the same
>>   files on different drives, I feel happier about it but backup
>>   nevertheless. The beauty of it is that I can log on to any PC and have
>>   the same info (assuming they have all been on the LAN together).
>>   I don't, but I know people also use it with their phones.
> 
> As you say syncthing isn't really a backup program.  It protects you
> against hardware failure as you have other copies of your files but it
> doesn't protect you against your own mistakes.  If you delete
> something by mistake or mess up some GnuCash updates then those errors
> will be duplicated on the other systems which are synchronised.
> 
> I use syncthing to keep things in step on my desktop and laptop
> machines, it means that I can use GnuCash on either machine and
> everything I do is copied to the other machine automatically so I can
> pick up where I left off on either machine. (Just don't run GnuCash on
> bath machines as the same time!).
> 
> For backup I use rsync with some simple home made code that automates
> the process and gives me incremental backups of all important files.
> I do hourly incremental b

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 22

[David Cousens]

Heidi,

The problem is that you replied to the Digest which is a summary of
posts for a given day rather than replying to a specific topic
contained in that summary. To post a new query you only need to send an
email to gnucash-user@gnucash.org,  with the topic in the subject line,
something like "Posting a Vendor Bill".  This will make it a lot easier
for people with appropriate expertise to make comments

What specifically are you having problems with. The bill creation
process is detailed in the Tutorial and Concepts guide at
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/bus_ap.html.

You will have to create a vendor if the vendor is not already entered
in GnuCash prior to creating the bill but the bill creation dialogue
gives you an option of adding a new vendor.

If the above doesn't help, then describe what part of the bill creation
process you are having problems with.

David Cousens





On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 17:40 -0400, halatch1008 via gnucash-user wrote:
> What is all this ??? I just want help with Posting a a vendor bill.
> PLEASE!Thanks,HeidiSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 22

[halatch1008 via gnucash-user]

What is all this ??? I just want help with Posting a a vendor bill. 
PLEASE!Thanks,HeidiSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Date: 
9/9/24  12:06 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: 
gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 22 Send gnucash-user mailing list 
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(Heidi Latch)   3. Re:  need help with Vendor post bill (Derek Atkins)   4. Re: 
 New top-level accounts (Liz)   5. Re:  Recommendations for hosting gnucash 
file - Google Drive,  Microsoft 365, Local server? (David G. Pickett)   6. 
Re:  Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google Drive,  Microsoft 
365, Local server? (Derek 
Atkins)--Message:
 1Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:28:47 -0500From: David Carlson 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.orgSubject: Re: [GNC] 
gnucash-user Digest, Vol 256, Issue 16Message-ID: 
Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="UTF-8"Robert HIt isn't July anymore and you didn't 
condense this according to thedirections so we do not know why you sent it.On 
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 256, Issue 16

[Fred Bone]

On 08 September 2024 at 18:28, David Carlson said:

> Robert H
> 
> It isn't July anymore and you didn't condense this according to the
> directions so we do not know why you sent it.

But did you really need to quote the whole thing?

He probably did it by accident, given that (AFAICT) there was no 
additional text.

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[David Carlson]

Robert H

It isn't July anymore and you didn't condense this according to the
directions so we do not know why you sent it.

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> > disregard this message.  If you think you are being maliciously
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:25:58 +0100
> From: Frederick Bambrough 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] SHA for GnuCash 5.7 incorrect
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The SHA hash for GnuCash 5.7 doesn't match the published one, presumeably
> because the published one's actually  for version 5.6. So it's described.
>
> MacOS version but probably true for the others.
>
> --
> Frederick Bambrough
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:54:08 -0500
> From: Phyllis Bruce 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Bogus email?
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> ?I?m confused and my age sometimes makes my brain burp.
>
> This is the first time I?ve ever seen Gnucash mail asking someone else
> for confirmation of their email address.  It?s to a Frederick Bambrough.
> Just asking if this is a fluke or a phish?
>
> Thanks, Po
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:57:43 -0700
> From: John Ralls 
> To: gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org
> Cc: gnucash-devel , Gnucash Users
> 
> Subject: [GNC] Re-ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.7 Released
> Message-ID: <5f3e8ab2-5412-47f1-909c-29d02ad3e...@ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8
>
> This time with the actual release notes:
>
> The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 5.7, the eighth release
> in the stable 5.x series.
> Between 5.6 and 5.7, the following bugfixes were accomplished:
> ? Bug 669031 - Save the Scheduled Transactions number of months
> ? Bug 669035 - Save the Scheduled Transaction divider position
> ? Bug 798822 - Move to blank transaction
> ? Bug 799047 - AutoComplete Only Considers Visible Transactions
> ? Bug 799258 - Reports calculating net worth incorrectly after stock split
> ? Bug 799262 - Failed import QIF investment
> ? Bug 799264 - option account selector fails to include a

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 20

[rsbrux via gnucash-user]

FWIW, I keep my GC data file on my NAS. Apart from privacy considerations, I 
don't trust my Internet connection enough to store it in the cloud.  I don't 
want the data to get corrupted by an interrupted connection.  The NAS gets 
backed up every night to one of two external drives, which are rotated. One of 
them is always stored in a separate location.
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 09:44:27 -0500
> From: David Carlson 
> To: Kalpesh Patel 
> Cc: David Cousens , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google
>Drive, Microsoft 365, Local server?
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> ? TY!
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:46?AM Kalpesh Patel  wrote:
>> 
>> If you are paranoid about cloud provider snooping into your files and
>> folders when storing data in the cloud, please look into excellent open
>> source tool called CryptSync (https://tools.stefankueng.com/CryptSync.html)
>> which I have mentioned it in the past.  It works as advertised so far. I do
>> not rely on anyone's word once that data leaves my control as they can
>> change their prerogative at their whims. I've been in IT world far too long
>> to know this for sure, sadly!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: David Carlson 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2024 9:21 PM
>> To: David Cousens 
>> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google
>> Drive, Microsoft 365, Local server?
>> 
>> I would like to know what level of security these hosting methods provide.
>> The GnuCash .gnucash data file is essentially an un-encrypted text file.
>> I think some cloud services, possibly including Google Drive may also be
>> unencrypted, tho I have not checked.  Do other cloud services offer better
>> security?  Private NAS solutions need to be configured by the user, but
>> they can be secure. What do you consider needs to be done to achieve
>> adequate security?
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 3:59?PM David Cousens 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bruce,
>>> I keep my Gnucash data files in a Dropbox account which is accessible
>>> from my laptop (Linux Mint), desktop(Linux Mint), phones (Android) and
>>> my wife's laptop (formerly Windows 11 but now linux Mint).   In my
>>> situation the file is only ever accessed from one computer at a time
>>> so no conflicts usually.  I also use Unison to synchronize my laptop
>>> and desktop before using the laptop remotely (mainly for other work,
>>> but it can synch the user preference files if desired), but I don't
>> synch the
>>> Dropbox account.   It generally only takes a minute or two to sync the
>>> machines as I keep the sync updated fairly regularly.
>>> 
>>> I have an NAS for local backups, which is in turn backed up to cloud
>>> storage.  The Dropbox is useful if you need to share the files with
>>> your accountant or others (assuming they also use GnuCash) as you can
>>> just send them a link to the file and they can download a copy without
>>> disrupting your ongoing usage.  The Dropbox is mainly a hangover from
>>> days when I did some accounting/bookkeeping for others and these days
>>> I could have it shared form the NAS but it used to be useful for
>>> accessing client  files from client's computers back in the day.  I
>>> also have NFS network sharing setup on the LAN with automounting on
>>> demand but found that did not interact all that nicely with Linux
>>> Mint's  file manager (Nemo) as it used to take a long time to connect
>>> the file shares which delayed its startup at one stage ( where the
>>> files were automounted was the problem.
>>> 
>>> David Cousens
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 2024-09-07 at 09:57 -0400, Bruce Griffis wrote:
 I am running GnuCash 5.5 on my Ubuntu 24.04 desktop. I also have
 GnuCash installed on my Windows 11 laptop. Right now I just copy my
 most recent GnuCash file over to USB if I want to work on it using
 my laptop. I tried using Google Drive, but found the application
 hanging when using Google Drive under Ubuntu. Not sure if it is
 because my connection is too slow (1 Gig to my Cisco switch, 1 Gig
 to my router, 100 Megs across my carrier) or if Ubuntu has timing
 issues with Google Drive. I also have a subscription to Microsoft
 365 and my Windows backups go there.
 Ubuntu backups go to an attached USB drive. althouhg I'm considering
 cloud storage for Ubuntu as well.  I've read that Ubuntu 24.04
 supports Microsoft drive, but you may need to log in whenever you
 access the drive. Only reason I'd consider it is that my Microsoft
 subscription comes with a decent amount of cloud storage. Finally, I
 have a spare desktop under my desk I could fire up as a headless
 server. And I have an older Raspberry PI I could probably turn into
 a NAS and share it locally using Samba.
 
 What is the current recommendation for sharing GnuCash across
 multiple PCs when it will 

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 258, Issue 1

[Eric Hammond]

   4. Re:  How do I invoice a customer which he pays with billable
  services by him? (Adrien Monteleone)

Thank You all!

I need the results to properly post on Form 1040 in my taxes.
(I like paying taxes - it means I have a living business)
Payment in-kind is fine, but it took a lot of testing to get the right account 
types
to get the clearing account idea to work, but where I got it.
I ended up using "Assets:Holding" for this. Bills and Invoices are very
picky about what type of accounts can pay the balance, but this worked.
Again, Thanks



Message: 4 ( and others)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 15:29:22 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone 
To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How do I invoice a customer which he pays with
billable services by him?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Yep, credit notes are the way to go.

If you want to somehow tie them together, there may be a way to use a 
clearing account as some sort of intermediary, which could be either an 
asset or liability and/or a sub-account of AR/AP.

GnuCash does not in any way link AR with AP tracking, thus even using 
the same name and info, Customers and Vendors are handled separately, 
even if they are the same entity.

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 256, Issue 48

[Adrien Monteleone]

No, that's what a placeholder is, an account with restricted posting. 
There is no combination of placeholder *with* transactions, though 
marking an account as a placeholder does not empty it of existing 
transactions. Those have to be reassigned manually. (so it is possibly 
to have a placeholder account with transactions that pre-existed the 
designation, but you won't be able to add any new ones, or at least you 
aren't supposed to)


I seem to recall a bug about importing into such accounts not long ago, 
but I think it was fixed. I don't recall the version however.


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/31/24 11:22 AM, Paras Desai wrote:

I think There is an option for place holder account wherein, one can allow or 
restrict posting transaction. It may be checked what option has been selected.


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 256, Issue 48

[Paras Desai]

I think There is an option for place holder account wherein, one can allow or 
restrict posting transaction. It may be checked what option has been selected.

Regards
Paras


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   1.  Placeholder accounts and scheduled transactions
  (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
   2. Re:  Placeholder accounts and scheduled transactions
  (Gyle McCollam)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 07:08:39 -0700
From: "Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)" 
mailto:stan...@fastmail.fm>>
To: GnuCash User List 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: [GNC] Placeholder accounts and scheduled transactions
Message-ID: 
<56474bb6-aa91-4161-9e0b-523667ea6...@fastmail.fm>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This month I changed "Cash and Banks" to a placeholder account, and
added subaccounts for actual cash and each of my bank accounts. But I
have a couple of scheduled transactions that credit or debit Cash and
Banks, and I forgot to change those. To my surprise, when the
transactions fired, GC happily put the splits into Cash and Banks, even
though Cash and Banks is now a placeholder account (I checked). I would
have expected some sort of error message when those transactions fire,
ideally with some sort of popup to let me designate a non-placeholder to
take the split this time.

I'm at GC 4.14, so if 5.8 no longer posts SX to placeholder accounts
there's not much point in my entering a bug. But if the behavior is
still the same then I think  bug report is appropriate. Would someone be
willing to check, please?

--
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 15:30:56 +
From: Gyle McCollam mailto:gmccol...@live.com>>
To: "Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)" 
mailto:stan...@fastmail.fm>>
Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Placeholder accounts and scheduled transactions
Message-ID:

mailto:ds0pr10mb71252b49b4fd1116e15be634ca...@ds0pr10mb7125.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Stan,
I created a SX in 5.8 and it still allows this.  Go ahead and file your bug 
report.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com  
 email


From: gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org>>
 on behalf of Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) 
mailto:stan...@fastmail.fm>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 10:08 AM
To: GnuCash User List 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: [GNC] Placeholder accounts and scheduled transactions

This month I changed "Cash and Banks" to a placeholder account, and
added subaccounts for actual cash and each of my bank accounts. But I
have a couple of scheduled transactions that credit or debit Cash and
Banks, and I forgot to change those. To my surprise, when the
transactions fired, GC happily put the splits into Cash and Banks, even
though Cash and Banks is now a placeholder account (I checked). I would
have expected some sort of error message when those transactions fire,
ideally with some sort of popup to let me designate a non-placeholder to
take the split this time.

I'm at GC 4.14, so if 5.8 no longer posts SX to placeholder accounts
there's not much point in my entering a bug. But if the behavior is
still the same then I think  bug report is appropriate. Would someone be
willing to check, please?

--
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 256, Issue 20

[Adrien Monteleone]

You're welcome, but I'm not following how you end up with 'unbalanced 
amounts' or what it is you are referring to in that regard.


The balancing of your accounts is independent, and forced upon every 
entry by GnuCash. (GnuCash won't let your books be 'unbalanced', though 
it will happily let you make them 'incorrect')


The 'correctness' of those entries is what Reconciliation should confirm 
or expose errors to fix. (most likely missing transactions, but 
sometimes transposed digits)


Placing those accounts under a parent and reconciling together only 
facilitates reconciliation *if* the charges for each account are *mixed* 
together on a single statement with a common starting and ending balance.


If the statement shows separate starting and ending balances for each 
account, with separate lists of charges, payments, et cetera, then you 
should reconcile them separately as if you were given two entirely 
separate documents as 'statements'.


Paying the balance is entirely a separate function from the act of 
reconciliation. (pay no mind to the GnuCash 'convenience' of entering a 
payment when you reconcile, that is not a requirement of reconciliation)


Regards,
Adrien

On 7/9/24 12:37 PM, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote:

@Adrien,

Thanks, this seems like the best solution.  It looks funny to leave the 
unbalanced amounts in all 3 accounts (2 credit card and one parent 
account), but reconciliation works and generates the correct payment 
from the bank account.


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 256, Issue 20

[rsbrux via gnucash-user]

@Adrien,

Thanks, this seems like the best solution.  It looks funny to leave the 
unbalanced amounts in all 3 accounts (2 credit card and one parent 
account), but reconciliation works and generates the correct payment 
from the bank account.


Thanks again to all who responded!

On 09.07.24 15:29, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 14:14:41 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone
To:gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Consolidated billing of two credit cards
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I'm in the camp that would just use a single split transaction payment
and leave the accounts as-is, if not for the very least, that the bank
still treats them as separate accounts. They can change how they present
the statement on a whim. (as they have clearly already done once)

I always attempt to model the real world in my accounting as closely as
possible.

If it helps with reconciliation, you can put them under a placeholder
parent account, and opt to include sub-accounts during reconciliation.

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/7/24 10:54 AM, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote:

I have two credit cards from the same bank, which were previously
handled completely separately and are therefor represented by separate
accounts in GnuCash.

Now the bank has consolidated the statements, but not completely.? There
is now a sinlge statement, but the charges and balance due are listed
and summed up separateky for each card.

However, the total due for both cards is now applied as a single charge
to my bank account. Because of the separate totals on the statement, it
is still convenient to reconcile the two credit card accounts separately.

However, this results in two separate charges to the GnuCash bank
account, which I then have to mentally add together to reconcile the
bank account.

This has led me to consider merging the two credit card accounts in
GnuCash.? How easy is this?? Will this really make things easier, or am
I better off sticking with the status quo?

Thanks in advance for any tips!

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 255, Issue 13

[Adrien Monteleone]

Bruce,

Try this:

Set the Journal to show all transactions in Preferences.

Set a filter while viewing the Journal to the period in question.

Run an Account Report.

You can do the same with individual accounts.

The Transaction Report is also very powerful and can be customized quite 
a bit. I don't think it can paginate per account though.


Regards,
Adrien

On 6/12/24 3:56 PM, Bruce Irving wrote:

There is one feature I would like to see, though I doubt many would have a
use for it.  I learned bookkeeping BC (Before Computer) so I learned the
paper/pencil method.  I wish there was a report that would let me print a
General Journal much like what appears on screen for a particular period.
I would also like to print the various active accounts: Date GL 1st
Description, with debit and credit columns.  While I would like a running
balance, I believe the proper way was totals at the bottom.  Oh, and each
account would be its own page(s).


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 255, Issue 13

[Mark at Lorimark]

oh... the memories!

~mark petryk
~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com

On 6/12/24 15:56, Bruce Irving wrote:


I used to know 6502 Machine language, dBase III as
well as some Lotus Macros and  Excel VBA.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 255, Issue 13

[Bruce Irving]

Thank you guys.

Geert's suggestion actually worked!  It was like Adrien said, "it opened
with just the 5 major accounts.  I almost missed the New Accounts Page as
it was the very bottom of the list.  If I had seen it before, I would have
thought that it was like opening a new company/person so would have ignored
it

I'm sorry, I should have given more detail in my opening message:

I've been using various flavors of Linux for about 25 years and GC a little
bit less.  One of the first I learned was that the included GC was at least
to major versions old which is why I started using Flatpack.  Currently,
I'm one PeppermintOS, a derivation of Debian.  I am thinking about going to
Slackware as my first installation was a derivation called Vector Linux.

I've always opened GC by clicking on the data file, or a link to it.)
Unfortunately, opening from a link puts the backup in the directory where
the link is.  I wrote a C program to switch to the data directory, move the
backups into another directory and delete the logs. Then it would open GC
with my data.

While the accounts are on tabs, I open reports in a separate window which
caused my original issue.  I don't use the online banking features.  I did
try the business feature but, as usual, it didn't fit what I needed to do.

You guys have done a bang-up job putting this together and I love not
having to close each year.

There is one feature I would like to see, though I doubt many would have a
use for it.  I learned bookkeeping BC (Before Computer) so I learned the
paper/pencil method.  I wish there was a report that would let me print a
General Journal much like what appears on screen for a particular period.
I would also like to print the various active accounts: Date GL 1st
Description, with debit and credit columns.  While I would like a running
balance, I believe the proper way was totals at the bottom.  Oh, and each
account would be its own page(s).  I would do them myself but I'm having
enough trouble with C.  I used to know 6502 Machine language, dBase III as
well as some Lotus Macros and  Excel VBA.  I'm not object oriented
depending on text so that I can trace what is going on.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:04 AM  wrote:

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>
>1.  Missing Register Right Click Options (j a)
>2. Re:  Missing Register Right Click Options (Mark at Lorimark)
>3. Re:  Missing Register Right Click Options
>   (Maria Inmaculada de la Torre)
>4. Re:  GC now only opens a report (Adrien Monteleone)
>5. Re:  Color tabs: General Journal (Adrien Monteleone)
>6. Re:  Missing Register Right Click Options (Adrien Monteleone)
>7. Re:  GC now only opens a report (Geert Janssens)
>8. Re:  GC now only opens a report (Adrien Monteleone)
>9. Re:  Color tabs: General Journal (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
>   10. Re:  GC now only opens a report (Stan Brown (using GC 4.14))
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:42:09 -0400
> From: j a 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Missing Register Right Click Options
> Message-ID:
> <
> cad-ayojhzfkfeqjwzkm-tpyoul0ymhapgm-b9bxknit77mg...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently upgraded GnuCash from 4.13 to 5.6, and immediately noticed that
> the options presented when performing right click options in a register
> have been removed.
>
> Please advise of how to implement options that were previously accessible
> by right click in a register, including the following:
> - sort register entries;
> - filter register entries;
> - jump to a different register;
> - split a transaction
> - schedule a transaction
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 14:48:24 -0500
> From: Mark at Lorimark 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Missing Register Right Click Options
> Message-ID:
> <5cba8586-81fc-405a-a748-1abaaedd8...@lorimarksolutions.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> gnucash 5.5, linux, flatpak,
>
> my register-right-click still works
>
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
>
> On 6/11/24 14:42, j a wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently upgraded GnuCash from 4.13 to 5.6, and immediately noticed
> that
> > the options presented when performing right click options in a register
> > have been removed.
> >
> > Please advise of how to impl

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 254, Issue 46

[John Ralls]

> On May 29, 2024, at 20:15, Bruce Schuck  wrote:
> 
> On 5/29/24 18:01:33 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
> 
>> OBTW, I had to force-install 1.62 because
>> Test Summary Report
>> ---
>> t/02-pod-coverage.t  (Wstat: 512 Tests: 0 Failed: 0)
>>   Non-zero exit status: 2
>>   Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
>> Files=67, Tests=83,  5 wallclock secs ( 0.05 usr  0.06 sys +  3.61 cusr  
>> 0.60 csys =  4.32 CPU)
>> Result: FAIL
>> Failed 1/67 test programs. 0/83 subtests failed.
>> make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
>>   BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.62.tar.gz
>>   /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
> 
> John,
> 
> Can you do me a favor and update the Perl module Moose? And try a reinstall 
> of Finance::Quote.

Bruce,

OK. F::Q test results were the same.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 254, Issue 46

[Bruce Schuck]

On 5/29/24 18:01:33 -0700, John Ralls wrote:


OBTW, I had to force-install 1.62 because
Test Summary Report
---
t/02-pod-coverage.t  (Wstat: 512 Tests: 0 Failed: 0)
   Non-zero exit status: 2
   Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
Files=67, Tests=83,  5 wallclock secs ( 0.05 usr  0.06 sys +  3.61 cusr  0.60 
csys =  4.32 CPU)
Result: FAIL
Failed 1/67 test programs. 0/83 subtests failed.
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
   BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.62.tar.gz
   /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK


John,

Can you do me a favor and update the Perl module Moose? And try a 
reinstall of Finance::Quote.


Thanks.

Bruce
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 253, Issue 56

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RE: Inventory and GnuCash

Hi Richard,

GnuCash is adequate for very basic inventory, by tracking the total value of 
each item, or lot.
It works well for my small business where I track only a few items of moderate 
to high dollar value.
I post the change of $ value for the items added or used, and manually note 
quantities involved. 
For my free stock (high volume low cost: screws, nuts, resistors etc.) I use 
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A little messy, but it works well for me.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 253, Issue 33

[Robert Dew]

Thanks for the offer Graham

I'm getting more and more inclined towards the X11 track.

I will need to do a little experimenting with having  X11 and CLI on the same 
VM to 
see if they "Play nicely" together or if I'll need to run up a separate VM just 
for the 
X11 processes.

For now I've been side tracked by running up a VM dedicated to MPD so I can 
(finally) move the radio station PC out of the house and reduce the load on my 
broadband, but I intend to come back to the GnuCash project in a few weeks.


Just noticed on re-reading your email the word CONTAINER.

Does GnuCash need to run under Docker or was that simply your choice to do so.

On 12 Apr 2024 at 12:00, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:


I have run gnucash in a container and used x-forwarding successfully to
access it from my desktop. The only functions that don't work in this mode
are the help and tutorial and concepts guide. These are available
separately via browser anyway, so I don't view that as a problem.

If that works for your usecase, I can walk you through the details.

Graham.


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 33

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> 1. Re: How to import MT940 and/or online banking missing in 5.5
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 17:00:11 +0100
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com
> 
> To: john jra...@ceridwen.us, An Ku proof...@gmail.com
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> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] How to import MT940 and/or online banking missing
> in 5.5
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> I suspect, Andr? is aWindows user and needs to upgrade to 5.5-1:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash 
> (stable)/5.5/gnucash-5.5-1.setup.exe
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> Regards
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> Am 16.03.24 um 08:07 schrieb john:
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> > MT940 and CAMT.053 imports are done with File>Import>Import Using 
> > AQBanking. Note that CAMT.053 is under XML, not CAMT in the import selector.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> > 
> > > On Mar 14, 2024, at 13:44, An Ku proof...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dear all
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, my bank's CSV export is useless as it does not state
> > > recipients or any useful information of transactions apart from the amount
> > > and date/time of execution. They do however provide the option to download
> > > MT940 as well as camt.053 (apart form PDFs). I understand there used to be
> > > an option to import MT940 transactions through an online banking module,
> > > but I cannot find it anywhere in the UI (I'm using windows and am on 
> > > v5.5).
> > > I found references to an external online banking package but no how to 
> > > make
> > > it run on a windows machine.
> > > 
> > > I'd appreciate any help on:
> > > 
> > > - Importing an MT940 file directly
> > > - Importing an camt.053 file directly
> > > - Converting either MT940 or camt.053 files to CSV
> > > 
> > > Thank you and kind regards,
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21

[David H]

Cool, glad you got it sorted.

Cheers David H.


On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 03:09, Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> David/john:
>
> Thanks for the helpful replies. After you mentioned it, I remembered the
> auto-history version save of my NAS-based cloud drive. Upon checking in
> there, I found two versions which had saved within two seconds of each
> other at the time I attempted to switch books. The second one, which
> Windows saw, was the corrupted file but the two-seconds-earlier version
> was uncorrupted and loaded properly. I flushed the corrupted version and
> now I'm back in business. Thanks againEric.
>
> On 3/9/2024 9:25 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
> > Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 07:43:24 +1000
> > From: David H 
> > To: "Eric H. Bowen" 
> > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Will Not Open Book After Changing Books
> >   (Bug 645216)
> > Message-ID:
> >   <
> ca+5xqdq5tyik_yhk-b3qpgdrxzk-woclq9mvj-s9p5qgyvk...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > Are you sure you haven't got a more recent backup?  I have multiple
> backups
> > (currently 77 - e.g. .gnucash.20240208183810.gnucash)
> in
> > the folder where my usual gnucash data file lives from the last time I
> > opened it - you should be able to open the one with the most recent date
> > and time stamp in the name and then save as you LLC file proper. .  It
> > seems you are opening this file directly in the cloud - I've never been a
> > fan of that ? I always copy my file to my local pc (1 of about 5 running
> > Win10/11, Ubuntu, MacOS) using FreeFileSync before I open it and then
> copy
> > it back when I'm done which works well for me.  Hope you can get it
> sorted.
> >
> > Cheers David H.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 23:59, Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I use two separate GnuCash books, one for my personal funds and another
> >> for my LLC. These files are saved on a cloud drive and I access them
> >> from a few different computers. Some of the computers run Windows 10,
> >> while some run Ubuntu Studio 22.04 LTS. The computer on which this first
> >> happened was running Windows 10 and GnuCash 5.4+ with sqlite backend,
> >> but all computers are now responding the same way.
> >>
> >> The day before yesterday I was updating and making some entries in the
> >> book for my LLC; GnuCash was working normally. Then, with the work
> >> completed, I attempted to switch from the LLC book to my personal book.
> >> However, apparently the file was still open on a remote computer because
> >> I received the error message that the .lock file could not be received.
> >> I elected to close the file and exit GnuCash. Well and good. When I got
> >> home that evening I closed the open instance of GnuCash running the
> >> personal book. Well and good.
> >>
> >> This morning I reopened the personal book and it opened and operated
> >> normally. Okay so far. Then, I closed it and attempted to open the book
> >> for the LLC. It would not open; I got a pop-up error message reading,
> >> "GnuCash could not complete a critical test for the presence of a bug in
> >> the "libdi" library. This may be caused by a permissions
> >> misconfiguration of your SQL database. Please see
> >> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645216 for more information."
> >>
> >> I went to the bug tracker website, found the entry, and attempted to
> >> follow the procedure which others said worked for them, of making a copy
> >> of the GnuCash file and opening/closing it. However, the copied file(s)
> >> were also corrupt and would not open. I do have a backup, but it's a few
> >> weeks old and I'd have to reconstruct the invoices and bills since then.
> >> Not a major undertaking, but if possible I'd like to recover this file.
> >> The personal book, by the way, continues to work perfectly. Thanks for
> >> any assistanceEric.
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:17:45 +0100
> > From: john 
> > To: David H 
> > Cc: "Eric H. Bowen" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Will Not Open Book After Changing Books
> >   (Bug 645216)
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Are you using the SQLite3 backend? If so and it's really corrupted see
> http

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 21

[Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user]

David/john:

Thanks for the helpful replies. After you mentioned it, I remembered the 
auto-history version save of my NAS-based cloud drive. Upon checking in 
there, I found two versions which had saved within two seconds of each 
other at the time I attempted to switch books. The second one, which 
Windows saw, was the corrupted file but the two-seconds-earlier version 
was uncorrupted and loaded properly. I flushed the corrupted version and 
now I'm back in business. Thanks againEric.


On 3/9/2024 9:25 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 07:43:24 +1000
From: David H 
To: "Eric H. Bowen" 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Will Not Open Book After Changing Books
(Bug 645216)
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Eric,

Are you sure you haven't got a more recent backup?  I have multiple backups
(currently 77 - e.g. .gnucash.20240208183810.gnucash) in
the folder where my usual gnucash data file lives from the last time I
opened it - you should be able to open the one with the most recent date
and time stamp in the name and then save as you LLC file proper. .  It
seems you are opening this file directly in the cloud - I've never been a
fan of that ? I always copy my file to my local pc (1 of about 5 running
Win10/11, Ubuntu, MacOS) using FreeFileSync before I open it and then copy
it back when I'm done which works well for me.  Hope you can get it sorted.

Cheers David H.


On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 23:59, Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:


I use two separate GnuCash books, one for my personal funds and another
for my LLC. These files are saved on a cloud drive and I access them
from a few different computers. Some of the computers run Windows 10,
while some run Ubuntu Studio 22.04 LTS. The computer on which this first
happened was running Windows 10 and GnuCash 5.4+ with sqlite backend,
but all computers are now responding the same way.

The day before yesterday I was updating and making some entries in the
book for my LLC; GnuCash was working normally. Then, with the work
completed, I attempted to switch from the LLC book to my personal book.
However, apparently the file was still open on a remote computer because
I received the error message that the .lock file could not be received.
I elected to close the file and exit GnuCash. Well and good. When I got
home that evening I closed the open instance of GnuCash running the
personal book. Well and good.

This morning I reopened the personal book and it opened and operated
normally. Okay so far. Then, I closed it and attempted to open the book
for the LLC. It would not open; I got a pop-up error message reading,
"GnuCash could not complete a critical test for the presence of a bug in
the "libdi" library. This may be caused by a permissions
misconfiguration of your SQL database. Please see
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645216 for more information."

I went to the bug tracker website, found the entry, and attempted to
follow the procedure which others said worked for them, of making a copy
of the GnuCash file and opening/closing it. However, the copied file(s)
were also corrupt and would not open. I do have a backup, but it's a few
weeks old and I'd have to reconstruct the invoices and bills since then.
Not a major undertaking, but if possible I'd like to recover this file.
The personal book, by the way, continues to work perfectly. Thanks for
any assistanceEric.


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:17:45 +0100
From: john 
To: David H 
Cc: "Eric H. Bowen" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash Will Not Open Book After Changing Books
(Bug 645216)
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

Are you using the SQLite3 backend? If so and it's really corrupted see 
https://www.sqlite.org/recovery.html. Good luck.

Regards,
John Ralls




On Mar 8, 2024, at 22:43, David H  wrote:

Eric,

Are you sure you haven't got a more recent backup?  I have multiple backups
(currently 77 - e.g. .gnucash.20240208183810.gnucash) in
the folder where my usual gnucash data file lives from the last time I
opened it - you should be able to open the one with the most recent date
and time stamp in the name and then save as you LLC file proper. .  It
seems you are opening this file directly in the cloud - I've never been a
fan of that ? I always copy my file to my local pc (1 of about 5 running
Win

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 3

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 3/4/2024 11:25 PM, R Losey wrote:

Best wishes -- I'm still waiting for a check from 2018 to clear. I checked
with my bank (I thought a check would not be valid after a certain time),
and they said they'd honor it if it showed up today.  I don't want to spend
the money to issue a stop-check order.


The amount of time a (personal or small business) ordinary check remains 
valid depends on the institution. The bank MAY use six months as the 
period before declaring stale (the "uniform") but is allowed to use a 
longer amount of time AND is not liable for damage it might cost you if 
they allow a "stale check".


This is a "check with your bank" situation. It is important to know if 
your bank uses moire than six months.


Michael D Novack

PS -- This is for the US. I have no idea about what the time period 
might be for other jurisdictions. And even here note I said personal or 
small business. Large businesses often have specified on the check "void 
after" and Treasury checks by law are good for one year. Also, 
things like certified checks, cashier's checks, etc. have different rules.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 3

[David Reiser via gnucash-user]

Before you get tempted to pay for a stop-payment order (just to be sure…), 
check the terms and conditions written in your bank agreement. Many banks don’t 
promise to actually not pay the check. There are often weasel words about “best 
effort” etc. It happened to my sister. She paid for a stop-payment order. When 
the check arrived at the bank, they paid it. Then they hit her with an 
overdraft fee because the supposedly stopped payment took her balance below 
zero. Eventually, she got them to refund the stop-payment fee and the overdraft 
fee, but they told her she’d have to get the money back herself from the payee.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com


> On Mar 4, 2024, at 11:25 PM, R Losey  wrote:
> 
> Best wishes -- I'm still waiting for a check from 2018 to clear. I checked
> with my bank (I thought a check would not be valid after a certain time),
> and they said they'd honor it if it showed up today.  I don't want to spend
> the money to issue a stop-check order.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 11:35 AM Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for pointing that out; it helped with the outstanding $200 check
>> I had trouble getting rid of. However, since it won't extend back any
>> farther than 50 days, I think it won't be likely to help when (if?) that
>> check I wrote to the nonprofit back in December finally clears.
>> 
>> Eric.
>> 
>> On 3/2/2024 12:26 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 13:29:47 -0800
>>> From: john
>>> To: "Eric H. Bowen"
>>> Cc:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Improving GnuCash's Processing of Outstanding
>>>  Checks
>>> Message-ID:<1459e1cf-dbc7-431a-8beb-7180011ff...@ceridwen.us>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2024, at 08:53, Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user<
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>  wrote:
 
 Is it possible to extend the time for outstanding checks to show up in
>> the "manual match" window?
>>> That's controlled by the two  match day thresholds in Preferences>Import.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
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> Micah 6:8

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 3

[R Losey]

Best wishes -- I'm still waiting for a check from 2018 to clear. I checked
with my bank (I thought a check would not be valid after a certain time),
and they said they'd honor it if it showed up today.  I don't want to spend
the money to issue a stop-check order.

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 11:35 AM Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thanks for pointing that out; it helped with the outstanding $200 check
> I had trouble getting rid of. However, since it won't extend back any
> farther than 50 days, I think it won't be likely to help when (if?) that
> check I wrote to the nonprofit back in December finally clears.
>
> Eric.
>
> On 3/2/2024 12:26 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 13:29:47 -0800
> > From: john
> > To: "Eric H. Bowen"
> > Cc:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Improving GnuCash's Processing of Outstanding
> >   Checks
> > Message-ID:<1459e1cf-dbc7-431a-8beb-7180011ff...@ceridwen.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 1, 2024, at 08:53, Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user<
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is it possible to extend the time for outstanding checks to show up in
> the "manual match" window?
> > That's controlled by the two  match day thresholds in Preferences>Import.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 252, Issue 3

[Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user]

Thanks for pointing that out; it helped with the outstanding $200 check 
I had trouble getting rid of. However, since it won't extend back any 
farther than 50 days, I think it won't be likely to help when (if?) that 
check I wrote to the nonprofit back in December finally clears.


Eric.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 13:29:47 -0800
From: john
To: "Eric H. Bowen"
Cc:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Improving GnuCash's Processing of Outstanding
Checks
Message-ID:<1459e1cf-dbc7-431a-8beb-7180011ff...@ceridwen.us>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii




On Mar 1, 2024, at 08:53, Eric H. Bowen via 
gnucash-user  wrote:

Is it possible to extend the time for outstanding checks to show up in the "manual 
match" window?

That's controlled by the two  match day thresholds in Preferences>Import.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 251, Issue 22

[Kalpesh Patel]

Double click the left button on the label of each column from right to left
direction. And then lastly go back to the heading 'Description" and double
click right button to shrink it so that scroll bars go away.

 
Date:   Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:47:28 -0500 (EST)
From:   Robert Heller 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject:[GNC] GNC UI problem...
I am using Version: 4.14 Build ID: 4.14+(2023-03-25) Finance::Quote: 1.50,
built from source on a RPi 2 running bullseye Raspbian GNU/Linux 11.

How do I get the collumns past the Description to be wider (readable)?
Everything I have tried only makes it worse.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 251, Issue 14

[Aryeh Gielchinsky]

That works, thanks!


> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 09:01:29 -0600
> From: Mark at Lorimark 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Import CSV settings location
> Message-ID:
> <5363533b-c534-4905-a487-ef73fa42a...@lorimarksolutions.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi Aryeh
>
> Can you click on Help->About and does it show the various paths in use?
>
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
>
> On 2/7/24 08:57, Aryeh Gielchinsky wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm a new user.
> >
> > I saved some CSV import settings on computer A, synced my
> > account/transaction file to computer B, but I'm unable to use the saved
> > import CSV settings on Computer B. Are these import CSV settings saved
> > somewhere on each computer separately? I've checked
> > $HOME/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash but I didn't successfully find the
> > settings for importing CSVs. Is there a way to save these import settings
> > with my account/transactions file?
> >
> > I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 (Linux) using GNUcash 5.5 via Flatpak.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Aryeh
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 251, Issue 12

[accounting Billing]

Also, When i try to record the expenses transactions, It is not showing on
the dashboard.

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>2. Re:  Change Printed Invoice (Lester Bennett)
>3. Re:  Change Printed Invoice (Michael or Penny Novack)
>4.  GNUCash 5.5 (accounting Billing)
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> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 17:30:43 -0800
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> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GNUCash 5.5
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>
> On 2024-02-06 16:51, accounting Billing wrote:
> > From: accounting Billing 
> > Date: Tue, Feb 6, 2024, 3:00?PM
> > Subject: GNUCash 5.5
> > To: , , <
> > christopher@gmail.com>
> >
> > We are willing to use GnuCash for our business accounting, But we are
> > facing some issues.
> >
> > When I try to add any transactions. It is not showing on the Accounts
> > Total numbers.
> >
> > When I try to put a transaction on the list, It is not showing on the
> main
> > page.
>
> You debited and credited Equity:Opening Balances for the same amount, so
> the net is zero, just as your attachment shows.  I don't understand the
> context of the I/O error; possibly the @ signs in your disk names are a
> problem.
>
> Before you go further, may I strongly, strongly suggest that you read
> the Tutorial and Concepts Guide and actually work through the examples
> that are relevant to your particular situation.
> 
>
> At bottom, GnuCash is just a computer replacement for keeping books of
> account in pen and ink. However, it has its own special ways of doing
> things, and if you don't use the techniques as shown in the examples,
> results will not be as you expect and you'll get immensely frustrated.
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 12:47:05 +1000
> From: Lester Bennett 
> To: John Ralls 
> Cc: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Change Printed Invoice
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Thanks John. I don't know why I didn't see the Custom Title options. I
> must have been through the configuration about 5 times. I guess I was
> blinkered and just looking for the word "Invoice".
>
>
> On 7/02/2024 10:27 am, John Ralls wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 6, 2024, at 4:01 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> >>
> >> Please remember to copy the list on all replies.
> >>
> >> The tab is actually called "Printable Invoice". I've attached a
> >> screenshot.
> >>
> >
> > The screenshot apparently got eaten. Another try:
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 08:31:33 -0500
> From: Michael or Penny Novack 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Change Printed Invoice
> Message-ID: <8611cce1-7df7-4c98-9ea7-767abc8f9...@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 2/6/2024 9:27 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
> > You can edit invoice.scm and replace "Invoice" with "Tax Invoice". All
> > invoices after will say "Tax Invoice".
> >
> Putting my old senior business analyst hat back on for a moment, this is
> presumably NOT what is being requested. I am pretty sure if we ask
> (business analysts ask, do not tell the client what the client wants) we
> will find out that the request for is a SELECTION ox, so only specific
> invoices would be so titled.
>
> But the real point I am trying to make is that at any time a
> jurisdiction can impose requirements, even things like font and font
> size, etc. And what one jurisdiction requires independent of what the
> next requires. THAT is why things like this best handled with editing
> outside of gnucash. We should ask of the gnucash developers that the
> CONTENT not be lacking for any jurisdiction, not the editing details.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>
>
> --
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 09:13:31 -0500
> From: accounting Billing 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] GNUCash 5.5
> Message-ID:
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 250, Issue 45

[Eric Hammond]

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Today's Topics:

   6. Re:  Windows x64 release builds are missing (Glenn Fowler)
   7. Re:  Windows x64 release builds are missing (Geoff)

I am running release 5.4 on Windows 11 Pro (x64) with no OS issues at all.

I hope this helps,

Eric Hammond

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 250, Issue 4

[Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user]

Thanks for the reply. I've read through that section of the manual, and 
I see how to, for example, account for a purchase of a boat in Hong Kong 
with Hong Kong dollars on deposit in a bank in Hong Kong.


What I don't see is how to account for a purchase of books in the United 
Kingdom, with an invoice denominated in GBP, which will be settled up by 
an international debit card payment from a bank in the USA at whatever 
exchange rate VISA is currently charging. I've set up a "sandbox" file 
with a currencies Price List and I've attempted to change the "Purchase 
Information" of the vendor on the bill to GBP, but the program locks up 
when I attempt to post it to Accounts Payable. I've tried creating a 
GBP-denominated Accounts Payable sub-account, but GnuCash apparently 
doesn't like that one bit either.


I'm at the start of what will hopefully be a long-term undertaking, and 
I want to set off on the right foot. Thanks for your helpEric.


On 1/4/2024 11:00 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 12:38:10 -0800 From: Jim DeLaHunt 
 To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: 
[GNC] International Currency Transactions? Message-ID: 
<76c83d2b-24c3-4b0f-b33a-afb2fa2b4...@jdlh.com> Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2024-01-03 07:13, Eric H. 
Bowen via gnucash-user wrote:

I'm based in the US and so all of my transactions have been in USD;
when that isn't the case my credit card company has taken care of the
currency conversion. But I have a new printing vendor now with several
plants overseas which bill in the local currency. I just ordered a POD
copy of a book to be delivered in the UK, billed in Pounds Sterling.
I've created a vendor invoice, itemized, with the various line item
prices.

What's the most efficient and flexible way to convert this to USD for
accounting and tax purposes? I see that GnuCash does have a currency
conversion/price editing feature, but I'm not sure of how to make it
work for this application. I'd appreciate a pointer to a tutorial.

Welcome to the world of multiple-currency bookkeeping in GnuCash.

The Gnucash Tutorial and Concepts Guide, chapter 12. "Multiple
Currencies" is a fine place to start.


Also, a good way to experiment with GnuCash features which you don't
know well is to make a separate book file with test data, to try out
features and workflows.? Once you understand how that part of GnuCash
works, and what steps to take to accomplish your goals, repeat the
process with your real book file and real data.

Best regards,
   ?Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 249, Issue 70

[Andrew Gross]

*Subject: Re: [GNC] How is "auto asset transfer" used in an asset
account?Andrew You may find some information in this section of the GnuCash
guidehttps://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_invest.html
David
Cousens*

Hi David, Looked around, didn't see anything.  I also tried a google search
with the operand "site:gnucash.org" but that didn't reveal anything
either.  Appreciate your input though.  Maybe this is just something new
that hasn't been documented yet.

Andrew


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> Hello, I have been an active user for a decade now but I have been out of
> the loop for updates.
>
> Are there any options for having GNU on multiple computers to where GNU
> can be used at the same time?
>
> Thanks!
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> Sorry. no.
> -derek
>
> On Wed, December 27, 2023 1:33 pm, Martijn Heuts wrote:
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> > the loop for updates.
> >
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> >
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> Greetings all,
>
> I am creating a new account to hold bonds and started to create an asset
> account; I see there is a checkbox for "auto interest transfer".  I have
> not been able to find any definitive text on how to use this feature
> although I have found mentions here
> <
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-July/000326.html
> >
> and
> mentions possibly related to it such as in a couple of postings in August
> 2022.
>
> Can anyone point me to where I could find more information?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
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>
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

[Adrien Monteleone]

No, the type is immutable.

And the Credit Note is not a payment. It 'offsets' the original invoice. 
It is a negative invoice, and so *should* be of type I.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/26/23 7:31 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

Thank you!
That did couple the note with the invoice. Is there anyway to change the Credit 
voucher “Type” from I to P ( better would be K, rather than C, for credit? K 
would sort after I so preferred)?
It is confusing for the payment to show type I also.


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

[Eric Hammond]

Thank you!
That did couple the note with the invoice. Is there anyway to change the Credit 
voucher “Type” from I to P ( better would be K, rather than C, for credit? K 
would sort after I so preferred)?
It is confusing for the payment to show type I also.

Thanks again,

Eric Hammond

From: Murugan Muruganandam 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 11:43 AM
To: Eric Hammond ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

When you do the payment for an invoice, you need to select the invoice and the 
credit note from the payment screen (Ctrl will allow multi selection), the 
total value will reduce and you can pay for the same

  
26-10-2023
Date  Description Action  QuantityUnit Price  DiscountTaxable 
Total
02-02-2023  February consulting Hours 1 $125,00 0 % $125,00
Net Price   
   $125,00
Tax     
 $0,00
Total Price 
  $125,00
26-10-2023   Payment, thank you!    
  $-100,00
26-10-2023  Payment, thank you! 
$-25,00 (this is a credit note)
Amount Due  
   $0,00
Thank you for your patronage!




Saludos Cordiales



Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+m.muruganandam=hotmail@gnucash.org>>
 on behalf of Eric Hammond mailto:e...@jehammond.net>>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:12 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

Question regarding credit notes (from below thread):

I sometimes do "first consultations" at no charge, but still create an invoice 
to capture all the information.
In the past I simply create an entry to Dr Receivables and Cr some other 
account (which one is also a question...)
I created a credit note to cover a no-charge first consultation, with no 
problem.
But how do I use it to "pay" the invoice?
GnuCash doesn't appear to allow me to use the credit note to pay an invoice in 
the normal way.

Thanks for the help
Eric Hammond

   1.  How to use refunds or credit notes (John Walker)


Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:10:22 +1000
From: John Walker mailto:gonew...@westnet.com.au>>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: [GNC] How to use refunds or credit notes
Message-ID: 
<0756891c-388a-4569-b62a-3632f62f3...@westnet.com.au<mailto:0756891c-388a-4569-b62a-3632f62f3...@westnet.com.au>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I have a situation where I have charged say$2 008 in an invoice. After posting, 
the customer correctly told me that the invoice should have been $2 000. The 
invoice has already been correctly paid at $2 000 and payment due date has 
already happened.

When processing the payment, I entered $8 in the refund and the invoice changed 
to $2 000 as one would expect. After processing the payment, I still had the $8 
to process in the process payment window. How do I properly process this?

If I should have used a credit note, how do I do that?
--
.
.
.
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 18:47:44 +0200
From: Geert Janssens 
mailto:geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be>>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to use refunds or credit notes
Message-ID: 
<1950895.pykuyfu...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan<mailto:1950895.pykuyfu...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Op woensdag 25 oktober 2023 18:10:22 CEST schreef John Walker:
> I have a situation where I have charged say$2 008 in an invoice. After
> posting, the customer correctly told me that the invoice should have
> been $2 000. The invoice has already been correctly paid at $2 000 and
> payment due date has already happened.
>
> When processing the payment, I entered $8 in the refund and the
> invoice changed to $2 000 as one would expect. After processing the
> payment, I still had the $8 to process in the process payment window.
> How do I properly process this?
>
> If I should have used a credit note, how do I do that?

You will indeed require a credit note for the rem

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

[Adrien Monteleone]

The answer to the credit side of the invoice is an Income/Revenue 
account. I like to track why I'm earning fees, and I charge different 
rates based on the general category of work. (website maintenance is 
less per hour than development for example)


For credit notes, it depends on the line item and reason for the credit. 
It could be a debit to the same Income/Revenue account(s) as a reversing 
transaction, or it could be to an Expense like 'Discounts & Allowances', 
'Marketing Freebies', 'Bad Debts', etc.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/26/23 1:12 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

Question regarding credit notes (from below thread):

I sometimes do "first consultations" at no charge, but still create an invoice 
to capture all the information.
In the past I simply create an entry to Dr Receivables and Cr some other 
account (which one is also a question...)


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

[Murugan Muruganandam]

When you do the payment for an invoice, you need to select the invoice and the 
credit note from the payment screen (Ctrl will allow multi selection), the 
total value will reduce and you can pay for the same

  
26-10-2023
Date  Description Action  QuantityUnit Price  DiscountTaxable 
Total
02-02-2023  February consulting Hours 1 $125,00 0 % $125,00
Net Price   
   $125,00
Tax     
 $0,00
Total Price 
  $125,00
26-10-2023   Payment, thank you!    
  $-100,00
26-10-2023  Payment, thank you! 
$-25,00 (this is a credit note)
Amount Due  
   $0,00
Thank you for your patronage!



Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user 
 on behalf of Eric 
Hammond 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:12 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

Question regarding credit notes (from below thread):

I sometimes do "first consultations" at no charge, but still create an invoice 
to capture all the information.
In the past I simply create an entry to Dr Receivables and Cr some other 
account (which one is also a question...)
I created a credit note to cover a no-charge first consultation, with no 
problem.
But how do I use it to "pay" the invoice?
GnuCash doesn't appear to allow me to use the credit note to pay an invoice in 
the normal way.

Thanks for the help
Eric Hammond

   1.  How to use refunds or credit notes (John Walker)


Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:10:22 +1000
From: John Walker 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] How to use refunds or credit notes
Message-ID: <0756891c-388a-4569-b62a-3632f62f3...@westnet.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I have a situation where I have charged say$2 008 in an invoice. After posting, 
the customer correctly told me that the invoice should have been $2 000. The 
invoice has already been correctly paid at $2 000 and payment due date has 
already happened.

When processing the payment, I entered $8 in the refund and the invoice changed 
to $2 000 as one would expect. After processing the payment, I still had the $8 
to process in the process payment window. How do I properly process this?

If I should have used a credit note, how do I do that?
--
.
.
.
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 18:47:44 +0200
From: Geert Janssens 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to use refunds or credit notes
Message-ID: <1950895.pykuyfu...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Op woensdag 25 oktober 2023 18:10:22 CEST schreef John Walker:
> I have a situation where I have charged say$2 008 in an invoice. After
> posting, the customer correctly told me that the invoice should have
> been $2 000. The invoice has already been correctly paid at $2 000 and
> payment due date has already happened.
>
> When processing the payment, I entered $8 in the refund and the
> invoice changed to $2 000 as one would expect. After processing the
> payment, I still had the $8 to process in the process payment window.
> How do I properly process this?
>
> If I should have used a credit note, how do I do that?

You will indeed require a credit note for the remainder. You can still create 
it now. Creating a credit note is the same as creating an invoice, except you 
choose "credit note" instead of "invoice".

Once the credit note is created, you can select to pay it, as you would for 
invoices. In the payment window you will find the $8 due payment and apply that 
to the credit note.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 247, Issue 42

[Eric Hammond]

Question regarding credit notes (from below thread):

I sometimes do "first consultations" at no charge, but still create an invoice 
to capture all the information.
In the past I simply create an entry to Dr Receivables and Cr some other 
account (which one is also a question...)
I created a credit note to cover a no-charge first consultation, with no 
problem.
But how do I use it to "pay" the invoice? 
GnuCash doesn't appear to allow me to use the credit note to pay an invoice in 
the normal way.

Thanks for the help
Eric Hammond

   1.  How to use refunds or credit notes (John Walker)


Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 02:10:22 +1000
From: John Walker 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] How to use refunds or credit notes
Message-ID: <0756891c-388a-4569-b62a-3632f62f3...@westnet.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I have a situation where I have charged say$2 008 in an invoice. After posting, 
the customer correctly told me that the invoice should have been $2 000. The 
invoice has already been correctly paid at $2 000 and payment due date has 
already happened.

When processing the payment, I entered $8 in the refund and the invoice changed 
to $2 000 as one would expect. After processing the payment, I still had the $8 
to process in the process payment window. How do I properly process this?

If I should have used a credit note, how do I do that?
--
.
.
.
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 18:47:44 +0200
From: Geert Janssens 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to use refunds or credit notes
Message-ID: <1950895.pykuyfu...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Op woensdag 25 oktober 2023 18:10:22 CEST schreef John Walker:
> I have a situation where I have charged say$2 008 in an invoice. After 
> posting, the customer correctly told me that the invoice should have 
> been $2 000. The invoice has already been correctly paid at $2 000 and 
> payment due date has already happened.
> 
> When processing the payment, I entered $8 in the refund and the 
> invoice changed to $2 000 as one would expect. After processing the 
> payment, I still had the $8 to process in the process payment window. 
> How do I properly process this?
> 
> If I should have used a credit note, how do I do that?

You will indeed require a credit note for the remainder. You can still create 
it now. Creating a credit note is the same as creating an invoice, except you 
choose "credit note" instead of "invoice".

Once the credit note is created, you can select to pay it, as you would for 
invoices. In the payment window you will find the $8 due payment and apply that 
to the credit note.

Regards,

Geert


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[Mike Commissaris]

Removed compression and file now saves.
Thanks for all the hard work. Greatly appreciated.

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:29:45 -0700
From: John Ralls 
To: gnucash-annou...@lists.gnucash.org
Cc: gnucash-devel , Gnucash Users

Subject: Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.2 File Save bug
Message-ID: <5526a72f-26e3-440b-93d7-6b2d9ceed...@ceridwen.us>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

There is a bug in GnuCash 5.2 that prevents saving compressed files, see
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798967.

If you don't compress your XML files or you use a SQL backend you're not
affected, and that provides an obvious work-around.

We'll get a snap release of GnuCash 5.3 out in a day or so once the cause
has been isolated and fixed.

Regards,
John Ralls

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> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:19:28 -0500
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> >
> > I am trying to set up GnuCash:
> >
> > Version: 4.13
> > Build ID: 4.13+(2022-12-17)
> > Finance::Quote: 1.54
> >
> > on Debian 12 (bookworm), 64-bit, using Gnome 43.4, wayland windowing
> > system (not xorg).
> >
> > This is a .deb package, "GnuCash Version: 1:4.13-1, Built-Using:
> > googletest (= 1.12.1-0.2)", from the Debian Stable repositories, NOT a
> > flatpak, snap, or appimage.
> >
> > When I do Edit --> Preferences, the Preferences window opens, but the
> > bottom part is cut off.  No matter what I try, I can am not able to
> > resize it to fit the screen. Nor can I even move it past the top edge
> > of the screen.  I even tried reducing the display resolution, to no
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> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
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>
> This issue has been significantly improved in the latest 5.2 release!
>
> As noted below, GnuCash 5.1 on my Mac took about 30 seconds to load. This
> issue did not happen on

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 243, Issue 24

[Stan Brown]

Bill,

Please don't reply to a digest without doing proper editing.

In your case, unless I missed it, you're not even replying, just
starting a new thread. In that case, you should delete the entire text
of the digest message.

And whether replying or starting a new topic, please us an appropriate
subject line. Many of us get hundreds of emails a day, and a subject
line like "Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 243, Issue 24" doesn't
give any useful indication of what's in the message.

I don't use the trading features, so I can't comment on those, but I
suspect you'll need to give some more details to get a useful response.

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On 2023-06-17 14:19, Bill Swanson wrote:
> The number of shares for some of the mutual funds does not show up on the
> Account Totals. I am using  SQLIte for the database.
> How can I fix this?
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[Bill Swanson]

The number of shares for some of the mutual funds does not show up on the
Account Totals. I am using  SQLIte for the database.
How can I fix this?

Thanks,
Bill

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>1. Re:  gnucash-user Digest, Vol 243, Issue 23 (Colin Arndt)
>2. Re:  Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
>   (Bruce Schuck)
>3. Re:  Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
>   (Murugan Muruganandam)
>4. Re:  Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
>   (Bruce Schuck)
>5. Re:  Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
>   (Fross, Michael)
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>7. Re:  Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 12:12:20 -0400
> From: Colin Arndt 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 243, Issue 23
> Message-ID: <1ee8906d-f406-4c9a-95bf-db4225085...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> Thank you for your efforts to resolve the Yahoo API issues. I rely on
> quotes in GNC to track the value of portfolios and overall net worth. Your
> efforts are much appreciated!
>
> I?ll install this to help with testing.
>
> Best,
> Colin
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 12:23:42 -0700
> > From: Bruce Schuck 
> > To: Finance-Quote-News ,
> >   Finance-Quote-User ,
> GnuCash
> >   User 
> > Subject: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
> > Message-ID: <66d8719e-5324-d74f-d92c-34f259514...@asgard-systems.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > Non-production release 1.56_02 is available for evaluation/testing.
> >
> >
> https://www.cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/B/BP/BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz
> >
> > It can be installed via cpan/cpanm as
> > 'BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz'.
> >
> > Anticipating that Yahoo may block access to the URL used in the
> > YahooJSON (yahoo_json) module, there are 3 new modules that gather
> > information from URLs normally accessed through a browser.
> >
> > GoogleWeb (googleweb)
> > MarketWatch (marketwatch)
> > YahooWeb (yahooweb)
> >
> > In addition the Fool module was corrected so it now works.
> >
> > Bruce S.
> >
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> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 09:42:06 -0700
> From: Bruce Schuck 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
> Message-ID: <60e4fe31-2008-8d90-bdb4-84c27877d...@asgard-systems.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
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> On 06/15/2023 12:23 -0700, Bruce S wrote:
>
> > Non-production release 1.56_02 is available for evaluation/testing.
> >
> https://www.cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/B/BP/BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz
>
>  > It can be installed via cpan/cpanm as
> > 'BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz'.
>
> The YahooWeb module currently requires the Date::Business module.
> Installing it cannot be done unattended, as the Makefile.PL used
> requires a yes/no question be answered. Not updat

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 243, Issue 23

[Colin Arndt]

Hi Bruce,

Thank you for your efforts to resolve the Yahoo API issues. I rely on quotes in 
GNC to track the value of portfolios and overall net worth. Your efforts are 
much appreciated!

I’ll install this to help with testing.

Best,
Colin

> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 12:23:42 -0700
> From: Bruce Schuck 
> To: Finance-Quote-News ,
>   Finance-Quote-User , GnuCash
>   User 
> Subject: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation
> Message-ID: <66d8719e-5324-d74f-d92c-34f259514...@asgard-systems.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Greetings all,
> 
> Non-production release 1.56_02 is available for evaluation/testing.
> 
> https://www.cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/B/BP/BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz
> 
> It can be installed via cpan/cpanm as 
> 'BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz'.
> 
> Anticipating that Yahoo may block access to the URL used in the 
> YahooJSON (yahoo_json) module, there are 3 new modules that gather 
> information from URLs normally accessed through a browser.
> 
> GoogleWeb (googleweb)
> MarketWatch (marketwatch)
> YahooWeb (yahooweb)
> 
> In addition the Fool module was corrected so it now works.
> 
> Bruce S.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 240, Issue 44

[Kalpesh Patel]

Just like other three major credit bureaus, ChexSystems does NOT charge for
lifting security freezes on temporary basis as of this writing. Not able to
charge fee for security freeze I believe is part of the US law. Be careful
though as these bureaus also tout similar but very different beast creation
of their own called credit lock, which does not have the backing of US laws
or its regulations as does the security freeze. 

If you plan to place a security freeze on three main credit bureaus in the
US than recommendation is to extend to Innovis
(https://www.innovis.com/personal/securityFreeze) as part of that security
regime. They also do not charge for lifting security freeze on temporary
basis.

This write up from Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
(https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_consumer-reporting-compa
nies-list.pdf) has a comprehensive list and links for such needs if you want
to explore and become educated in this realm. 

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 11:01:23 -0700
From: "Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.19)" 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Help with downloading transactions.
Message-ID: <91124db6-3212-5319-092f-7351f91b6...@fastmail.fm>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


On 2023-03-19 08:26, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
> In the US I highly recommend that you look into placing security 
> freeze on your credit files and at ChexSystems at minimum, which now 
> is free for everyone unlike in the past where you were charged fee for it.

Excellent advice. (Thanks for mentioning ChexSystems; I had not thought to
freeze my record there too.)

Not only is the freeze free, but temporarily lifting it, when you yourself
are actually applying for a mortgage or other credit somewhere, is also
free. (At least that's true for credit bureaus; I don't know if ChexSystems
operates under the same rules.)

The bad news is that you have to do it at all of the credit bureaus; one
will not communicate news of a freeze to the others.

To save you some searching, here are the URLs:









Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 239, Issue 9

[Chris Skudder]

One way is to schedule a transaction to be created before you import the 
bank record. Then match the imported bank record to the scheduled 
transaction. The amounts on payrolls are often pretty consistent from 
one payroll run to the next, so it might match automatically, or you 
might have to select the match manually.


You might also have to edit the created transaction, to exactly match 
the amounts for the current payroll run. But at least you can program in 
the splits with the right GL accounts (with a default amount), 
descriptions, etc. That way at least the transaction is all set up, with 
the possible exception of some minor edits.


Chris

Similar situation -
I'm treasurer of our church, which has 4 employees and pays every 2 
weeks, with the same structure of 2 direct debits - one for what's paid 
to employees and the other for what's deposited to govt tax collection 
accts.

We charge the wages and taxes to 8-10 different GL acct's in our books.
The church is on Quickbooks Online which doesn't offer scheduled 
transactions unless you upgrade + pay them more money - argh.
So when I run payroll, I copy the previous payroll run's transactions 
and edit the amounts to match the current payroll run, change date etc.
The edited transactions match to the bank's record of the direct debits 
when they come in.




On 2/4/23 11:43, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:

Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 08:23:00 -0700
From: Simon Roberts
To: Gnucash Users
Subject: [GNC] Splitting an imported transaction?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi all,

I use a third party organization to run payroll, and they make two
withdrawals from my bank. One is the amount actually paid to employees (two
of us 😄 and the other is the sum of taxes collected from those employees,
plus the employer's tax contributions.

Unsurprisingly, when this imports, from the bank records, it shows as two
transactions, and the tax stuff is all lumped into a single transaction.

As yet, I've only handled this once and did it wrong anyway (I fixed it up
by hand OK though). However, in three months it'll happen again so I figure
if I ask now I could be ready to try to do it right next time.

What I'd like--but suspect might be impossible, is to persuade the import
operation to create a split to the two accounts (payroll taxes: employer
and payroll taxes-employee). I'm not so concerned about how the money is
allocated across the split (there's really no way for the system to know
what to do about that, after all), but if there's a placeholder, that would
be a nice start.

Or perhaps there's some other approach that I've not thought of?

What do folks recommend?

Cheers,
Simon


-- Simon Roberts (303) 249 3613

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 113

[Phyllis Bruce]

It’s no biggie changing the date and many programs default on the.current date 
or the last entered. It’s fine with me if you just leave it alone.  Besides, 
unless I’m mistaken, when I pull in a QFX, the system uses the date it cleared 
the bank, not the date entered or written.

> On Dec 29, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Fross, Michael  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I, too, enter the receipts immediately.  If I buy something online, it's
> actually exactly the same time as the purchase.  If it's a real store, it
> gets entered once I'm home.  Having it default to "today" is the right
> answer for me.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 5:23 PM Chris Skudder 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   FWIW, I'm another who enters most txn's on the same day I make them.
>>   IMHO, one of the great and beautiful advantages of GnuCash over
>>   Quickbooks Online (which I must use to do our church's accounts) - is
>>   that GC opens basically instantaneously. There's no network latency, no
>>   login, no "let's make sure it's really you" and "let's verify your cell
>>   number," no clicking thru "Don't you want to sign up for our payroll
>>   service, and our credit card processing service" and Lord knows what
>>   else, before I can do what "I" want to do, versus what Intuit wants me
>>   to do.
>>   For me, I can open the computer from standby, open GnuCash, enter the
>>   txn, and stash the receipt "off the deck" somewhere, quite a bit faster
>>   than try to find receipts later, find time, remember what they're for,
>>   + etc.
>>   Realizing everybody's different ... but my own 1 vote is to keep the
>>   date default "today", or at least to give a user the OPTION to default
>>   txn dates to today.
>>   So hooray for open source software, and for the talented and dedicated
>>   peep's who do the coding that I don't know how to do.
>>   Thank you to you all.
>>   Chris
>> __
>> 
>>   From: [1]gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org
>>   Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022, 12:00 PM
>>   To: [2]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>>   Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 113
>> 
>> On 12/28/2022 11:11 AM, R Losey wrote:
>> 
>> That would be an interesting poll (about when one enters data)
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>   1. mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org
>>   2. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 113

[Fross, Michael]

Hi Chris,

I, too, enter the receipts immediately.  If I buy something online, it's
actually exactly the same time as the purchase.  If it's a real store, it
gets entered once I'm home.  Having it default to "today" is the right
answer for me.

Michael

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 5:23 PM Chris Skudder 
wrote:

>FWIW, I'm another who enters most txn's on the same day I make them.
>IMHO, one of the great and beautiful advantages of GnuCash over
>Quickbooks Online (which I must use to do our church's accounts) - is
>that GC opens basically instantaneously. There's no network latency, no
>login, no "let's make sure it's really you" and "let's verify your cell
>number," no clicking thru "Don't you want to sign up for our payroll
>service, and our credit card processing service" and Lord knows what
>else, before I can do what "I" want to do, versus what Intuit wants me
>to do.
>For me, I can open the computer from standby, open GnuCash, enter the
>txn, and stash the receipt "off the deck" somewhere, quite a bit faster
>than try to find receipts later, find time, remember what they're for,
>+ etc.
>Realizing everybody's different ... but my own 1 vote is to keep the
>date default "today", or at least to give a user the OPTION to default
>txn dates to today.
>So hooray for open source software, and for the talented and dedicated
>peep's who do the coding that I don't know how to do.
>Thank you to you all.
>Chris
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>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022, 12:00 PM
>To: [2]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 113
>
> On 12/28/2022 11:11 AM, R Losey wrote:
>
> That would be an interesting poll (about when one enters data)
>
> References
>
>1. mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org
>2. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 113

[Chris Skudder]

   FWIW, I'm another who enters most txn's on the same day I make them.
   IMHO, one of the great and beautiful advantages of GnuCash over
   Quickbooks Online (which I must use to do our church's accounts) - is
   that GC opens basically instantaneously. There's no network latency, no
   login, no "let's make sure it's really you" and "let's verify your cell
   number," no clicking thru "Don't you want to sign up for our payroll
   service, and our credit card processing service" and Lord knows what
   else, before I can do what "I" want to do, versus what Intuit wants me
   to do.
   For me, I can open the computer from standby, open GnuCash, enter the
   txn, and stash the receipt "off the deck" somewhere, quite a bit faster
   than try to find receipts later, find time, remember what they're for,
   + etc.
   Realizing everybody's different ... but my own 1 vote is to keep the
   date default "today", or at least to give a user the OPTION to default
   txn dates to today.
   So hooray for open source software, and for the talented and dedicated
   peep's who do the coding that I don't know how to do.
   Thank you to you all.
   Chris
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   Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022, 12:00 PM
   To: [2]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
   Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 113

On 12/28/2022 11:11 AM, R Losey wrote:

That would be an interesting poll (about when one enters data)

References

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   2. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 237, Issue 111

[Kalpesh Patel]

Murugan - 

One of the un-documented feature of the "Install Online Price Retrieval for
GnuCash" script/shortcut is that it also upgrades Perl modules if newer
version ones are available in the repository.  This will upgrade module
dependencies and the finance quote module followed by a validation of a
sample call.

OR

You can also upgrade it manually with Strawberry Perl's command line console
(In Windows 11's search type in 'Perl' and you will see an item called 'Perl
(command line)'). This will only upgrade the module but not the dependencies
(however, if missing any dependencies then it will install the missing ones
with latest version). Execute these three command in that console:

perl -MCPAN -e shell
install Finance::Quote
exit


Former method is recommend so that you have all the latest with all the
bells, whistles and un-published features that come with new versions.


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:52:46 +
From: Murugan Muruganandam 
To: Bruce Schuck ,
"gnucash-user@gnucash.org" ,
"gnucash-de...@gnucash.org" 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote v1.54 Released
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

hi bruce

thanks, how can i update 1.54 in windows




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


From: gnucash-user
 on behalf of
Bruce Schuck 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 12:28 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org ;
gnucash-de...@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Finance::Quote v1.54 Released

Finance::Quote v1.54 has been released and uploaded to CPAN.

https://metacpan.org/release/BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.54

https://www.cpan.org/authors/id/B/BP/BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.54.tar.gz

https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote

Thank you.

- Bruce S.
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 235, Issue 46

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 10/20/2022 12:21 PM, Patrick Pöndl wrote:

I am a new GnuCash user and currently busy setting everything up. I have
done a lot of thinking and testing on the multi-currency issue in order to
hopefully get it right from the start.

So far my conclusion is this - and please, more experienced users, correct
me if there is a flaw in my thinking:

- For asset and liability accounts, multi-currency accounts make obviously
a lot of sense if you hold assets and liabilities denominated in multiple
currencies. Changes in value in respect to your base currency are perfectly
taken care of by using the automatic trading accounts.

- BUT: For income and expense accounts, multi-currency accounts seem to be
a total disaster. Why? Because all PAST transactions on both income and
expense accounts will be valued at the CURRENT exchange rates.


THAT is the major issue with trying to keep multiple currencies in the 
same set of books. WHEN is to be the time of evaluation (of one to the 
other in terms of exchange rates). This can even be an issue for 
accounts of type asset and liability for those who are rarely moving 
amounts between currencies << who have accounts in both places, who have 
income and expenses in both places --- say who live/work in one country 
part of the year and in another the rest of the year >>


Since not applying to me, I have never investigated the rules of the 
various jurisdictions. You have income in country B but your primary tax 
country is A. What does A say about when "conversion" takes place (when 
evaluated for income in B, taxes paid in B for which A might give 
credit, etc.) OR if A allows you to choose the date (say the end of the 
reporting year) how do you do that unless separate books? << since you 
would NOT want evaluations to have been taking place as you went along >>


Michael D Novack



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 235, Issue 46

[Patrick Pöndl]

I am a new GnuCash user and currently busy setting everything up. I have
done a lot of thinking and testing on the multi-currency issue in order to
hopefully get it right from the start.

So far my conclusion is this - and please, more experienced users, correct
me if there is a flaw in my thinking:

- For asset and liability accounts, multi-currency accounts make obviously
a lot of sense if you hold assets and liabilities denominated in multiple
currencies. Changes in value in respect to your base currency are perfectly
taken care of by using the automatic trading accounts.

- BUT: For income and expense accounts, multi-currency accounts seem to be
a total disaster. Why? Because all PAST transactions on both income and
expense accounts will be valued at the CURRENT exchange rates. Consider
an extreme example which illustrates the problem drastically: Imagine you
dined at a restaurant in Argentina in January 2018. You paid 250 ARS in
cash, which equaled about 11 EUR at the time. If you had recorded this on
an expense account denominated in ARS and you looked at your GnuCash book
today, it would show you that you spent only 0.88 EUR for that meal in
2018. The peso lost almost all of its value since then. Your data in
GnuCash will be almost worthless. GnuCash does record the difference
between 11 and 0.88 EUR in your trading accounts as a loss of value of
"your" ARS 250 (that you don't have any more because you spent them in
2018), but for all transactions that have been recorded in the ARS expense
account, it will only show just the total loss you have had over the years
in ARS vs EUR. If there were many transactions, you would have no idea what
you really paid in your base currency at the time of each transaction.
Trading accounts are meant to track changes in value of assets and
liabilities you are currently holding, but most definitely not for expenses
and income from the past, which has already happened and cannot be changed
anymore.

Therefore, my current conclusion is that for all transaction that involve
income or expense accounts, the amount has to be converted into the base
currency using the exchange rate on the day the transaction occurred, or at
least closely. Exchange rates normally do not move a lot from day to day,
but over many months or even years there can be huge moves - and those will
ruin the data in your GnuCash book if you don't consider this effect.

If somebody has another solution, please let me know, as the extra effort
to make the conversion for each transaction is obviously anything but fun.

Best regards,
Patrick Poendl


Am Mi., 19. Okt. 2022 um 02:47 Uhr schrieb :

>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Anton Tsyganenko 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 13:34:13 +0400
> Subject: [GNC] Enhancement request: multi-currency accounts
> Let's take a look on accounts that are created in gnucash by default.
> Generally most of the accounts may be multi-currency, i. e. not bond to
> a specific currency: you may have cash in multiple currencies, your
> opening balances may be in multiple currencies, you may have incomes and
> expenses in multiple currencies. Bank accounts generally have only one
> currency, but there are some banks that offer multi-currency cards and
> deposits. These surely can be considered as just a few different
> accounts, but it may be more convenient to group them together.Now I
> solve that by creating sub-accounts for each currency I need for each
> account where I need it. It looks like:
> Expenses:Dining:USD
> Expenses:Dining:EUR
> Expenses:Dining:CAD
> Expenses:Transport:USD
> Expenses:Transport:EUR
> Expenses:Transport:CAD
>
> It's very painful to create all of them. I know that I may have only one
> account in my _main_ currency, but I prefer all currencies to be equal
> and not perform redundant currency conversions, for example when I spend
> CAD cash for dining in Canada.
>
> So my proposal is:
>
> All accounts that user creates are "multi-currency", like placeholder
> accounts without any specific currency. Sub-accounts for each currency
> are created automatically, when the first operation in this currency in
> this account is made. If a multi-currency account is deleted and
> operations are moved to another account, operations in all the
> subaccounts are moved to the corresponding subaccounts of the second
> account. Balances can be shown as a sum of (non-null) amounts in
> different currencies (but sometimes can be converted to one currency).
> In a multi-currency account's view (basic ledger) there should be just
> an additional column -- currency of an operation (editable as a
> drop-down menu). So user opens account "cash" and sees something like:
>
> Date | Description | Transfer | Debit | Credit | Currency | Balance
>
> 2022-10-18 | Dinner in a restaurant | Expenses:Dining | | 25 | EUR | 100
> USD + 55 EUR
>
> That operation is a transfer of 25 EUR from Assets:Cash:EUR to
> Expenses:Dining:EUR.

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 234, Issue 39

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

 
I found an app of Google to do with Gnucash. As I down loaded it. Can I get it 
to come over to my cell phone.
thanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 09:06:05 -0700
From: Vincent Dawans 
To: "Fross, Michael" 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Wrong Regedit key in Wiki for setting MRU maxfiles
    on Windows version 4.11
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Thank you Michael. You are right, I found this in the release 4.7 changelog
"Change the preferences path to org.gnucash.GnuCash to comply with flatpak
requirements and migrate existing preferences to the new paths. This won't
provide for automatic sync between a system-installed GnuCash and a flatpak
one unless the system-installed one is GnuCash 4.7 or later. Please see the
Wiki for more information and a procedure to convert your existing
preferences."
I will update the Wiki FAQ

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 5:05 AM Fross, Michael  wrote:

> Hello all.  I don't believe this "doubling" is a mistake.  Think of
> "org.gnucash" as the "manufacturer" and "GnuCash" as the product.  If they
> make another tool, it would be "org.gnucash.NewTool"
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:25 AM Vincent Dawans  wrote:
>
>> FYI somebody on Linux also confirmed that they have the double
>> /org/gnucash/GnuCash/history  path as well.
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/GnuCash/comments/xe3xty/possible_to_change_recently_opened_from_4_to_5/
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 9:58 AM Vincent Dawans  wrote:
>>
>> > Was happy to see it is now possible to change the number of recent files
>> > in the menu as per instructions in the FAQ
>> >
>> >
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_have_deleted_a_gnucash_file_from_my_computer._How_can_I_remove_that_file_from_the_File_menu.27s_short_list_.28MRU.29_as_well.3F
>> >
>> > However the FAQ says to create a DWord in
>> > Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\GSettings\org\gnucash\history
>> >
>> > Although I do have a history key in that location, it seems to have been
>> > created from an earlier version. In the latest version 4.11, it was
>> moved
>> > to
>> >
>> Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\GSettings\org\gnucash\GnuCash\history
>> > (notice the double \gnucash\GnuCash\)
>> > That is where I had to create the DWord for it to work
>> >
>> > I get a sense that the registry tree might have been moved by mistake
>> with
>> > an added GnuCash level in the recent version but that's where it is as
>> of
>> > version 4.11 on Windows. If possible please update the FAQ to mention
>> this
>> > second location based on version number
>> >
>> > I have been using gnuCash for years but this is my first email to the
>> > list. A big thank you for all the hard work.
>> >
>> > Vincent Dawans
>> >
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 234, Issue 6

[Tommy Trussell]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 9:47 AM Dausnart Admin via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> > PLEASE chop out the unused cruft
>
> Disciplinary actions… ?
>
>
OFF WITH THEIR HEADerS  !

Just kidding!!

It is a dilemma because the original poster, James Baxter, apparently is
making good progress in GnuCash skills but not with email list skills.

James -- I meant the comment at the top in jest, but James, please
understand that the way you are interacting via email makes it difficult
for others to help you. Do you have someone available who can help you
learn some finer points about using your email?

Here is some specific information in the GnuCash Wiki:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists#Netiquette

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 234, Issue 6

[Dausnart Admin via gnucash-user]

> PLEASE chop out the unused cruft

Disciplinary actions… ?

—
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dagoen araudian, Europaco Parlamentuaren eta Conseiluaren 2016/679 (EB) 
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çure datu personalac tractatzen.
Çure datuen titularra çarenez, arduradun honi datuoc tractatzeco adostassuna 
eta baimena emaiten deraucoçu.
Çure datuac irispidean eduquitzeco, çucenceco, ecerezteco, tractamendua 
mugatzeco, berorien aurka eguiteco, edo beroriec transferitzeco escubidea 
eguicaritu ahal içanen duçu, arduradun honen posta-helbidera, hots, , edo  helbide 
electronicora çucenduz.

PRIVATUTASSUN. Datu personalac babesteco abenduac 13co 15/1999 Leguea 
jarraituz, jaquin eçaçu meçu hau eta berari atchiquitaco oro isilpeco dela, eta 
soilic bere harçaileari çucencen çaizquiola.
Meçu hau hutseguitez jassotzen baduçu, othoi çaiçu escatzen eçaba deçaçula 
bera. Esquertuco liçate igorle honi emaitea bidalqueta desegoqui ororen berri.
Debecatuta dago, aguerico baimenic gabe, meçu honen edota bere eduquinen 
edocein erabilera edo hedatzea, ossoqui cein çathiz.
Meçu electronicoac andea daitezque. Meçu hau aldaturic, andeaturic edota aiçun 
balego, Dausnart EMBac , bere ordezcariec edota meçu igorleec uko eguiten 
deraucote ondoriozco edonolaco ardurei.
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 234, Issue 6

[Tom Browder]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 07:25 James Baxter via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>  I am James Baxter and I am playing with this and made a mistake with my
> with my checking account, as I found out what my problem was. Not entering
> income the right way.
> So I am looking to start buying stock and also Bonds.When I place the cost
> (say Tesla) of $285.50 (A fake number) the tell it the number of stock I
> want. it goes back to one.


If you insist on replying to the digest, or copying it, PLEASE chop out the
unused cruft.  I can’t tell what you want.

-Tom
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 234, Issue 6

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

 I am James Baxter and I am playing with this and made a mistake with my with 
my checking account, as I found out what my problem was. Not entering income 
the right way.
So I am looking to start buying stock and also Bonds.When I place the cost (say 
Tesla) of $285.50 (A fake number) the tell it the number of stock I want. it 
goes back to one. 

I am not doing this right. Can some one copy the parts or how ever you wish.
ThanksJames Baxteremail. kangaro...@yahoo.com 

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  Change Linked Document Path (Geoff Storer)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 21:47:55 +1000
From: Geoff Storer 
To: Jim DeLaHunt 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Change Linked Document Path
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Jim
Answers to your questions

Q: what exactly do you see that is not working for you? What do you see
that makes you say, "[GnuCash] looks for the attached document in the
windows document folder"?

Ans: Error box pops up with following message
GnuCash could not find the linked document.:
C:\Users\jscmu\Documents\Globird Gas 220728.pdf
See attached screenshot

Q: When you open your GnuCash accounts book, and find a transaction with
an attached document, what GnuCash operations do you do, in order to
open or find that document?

Ans: I go to a register for the account from where the payment was made and
beneath
the column headed "R" (for reconcile) click on the icon that signifies the
document is present.
Also included in attached screenshot

Q: In that transaction, what does GnuCash display as the location of the
document? (This is important, because the exact spelling will show us if
the document path is relative or absolute.)

Ans: C:\Users\jscmu\Documents\-document name-

Q: What specifically did you try in GnuCash to point to the correct
location of the documents? What do you mean by "editing the preferences"?

Ans: In top menu bar selected
edit/preferences    then selected    General from left hand options panel
In that screen I then selected "Linked files" from the options displayed to
the right
I used the dropdown arrow in this option and navigated to the folder where
copies of
my invoices reside. See attached screenshot "Linked files".

Q: What did the preferences say before you made this change?

Ans: Good question. Not exactly sure what it said before I changed it. But
when I
now click the "Clear" button (to the right of the dropdown arrow) I see a
message
as per screenshot "Change linked Docs".

Q: What do the preferences say now?

Ans: As per "linked files" screenshot
"Path Head for linked files Relative Path"  with option "GNU Invoices" (the
name of my
invoices folder)

Q: What version of GnuCash are you using?

Ans: I am using ver 4.11  Build ID:  4.11 (2022-06-25)

Thanks for taking the time to look at this

Geoff







On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:46 AM Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:

> Geoff:
>
> On 2022-09-01 20:04, Geoff Storer wrote:
> > Ok, thanks.
> >
> > This is my first post!!
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 8:16 AM Jim DeLaHunt 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Geoff:
> >>
> >> One tenet of GnuCash-user email list etiquette is to cc the gnucash-user
> >> email list on all replies. We want this discussion to take place on the
> >> list.
> >>
> >> Thus I am replying to you, and cc'ing the list, so that the thread stays
> >> on the list.  I will reply to this message from the email that reaches
> me
> >> via the list.
> >>      ?Jim DeLaHunt
>
> Thank you for replying to the list. I will carry on the conversation via
> a reply to the list.
>
> Back in your initial message, you said,
>
> >> ...My problem now is that [GnuCash] looks for the attached document in
> >> the windows document folder on the C Drive. ...
>
> Let's dig into that a little bit.
>
> Q: what exactly do you see that is not working for you? What do you see
> that makes you say, "[GnuCash] looks for the attached document in the
> windows document folder"?
>
> Q: When you open your GnuCash accounts book, and find a transaction with
> an attached document, what GnuCash operations do you do, in order to
> open or find that document?
>
> Q: In that transaction, what does GnuCash display as the location of the
> document? (This is important, because the exact spelling will show us if
> the document path is relative or absolute.)
>
>
> >> I have tried editing the preferences in [GnuCa

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90

[Phyllis Bruce]

Robert, I am not interested in any of the business accounting or stock 
accounting questions. I followed your instructions to change my options which 
were already set as you suggested.  However, I was unable to find a list of 
topics to limit what I will receive, or a way to enter said topics once I find 
the list.  Your help is much appreciated.

Phyllis

> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:46 PM, Robert Simmons  wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> Can you visit the following list management URL:
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90

[Robert Simmons]

James,

Can you visit the following list management URL:

https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user

Down at the very bottom there is a box for your email address. The text
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or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:"

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the list's welcome email. The password you need to use is at the very
bottom of that email. Enter that password on this page, and then click the
button "Log in".

On the next page, at the bottom, there are a set of grey boxes, each with
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radio button to the right in that box. Select "Off". Finally, click the
button at the bottom of that page "Submit My Changes".
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 90

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

 Gnucash to do with buying stocks
Ok, So stocks are called tickers. (I Think) So when enter tthem into Gnucash. 
when the cost or price goes up. Does this happen with them on Gnucash.
If so, How do you place it on the srceen. I have been reading about them of 
this. but I don't see how this happens.
thanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com

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Today's Topics:

  1.  A new start - somewhat strange (Norbert Klein)
  2. Re:  A new start - somewhat strange (Derek Atkins)
  3. Re:  Reports: Account ending balances (Pa In)
  4. Re:  Reports: Account ending balances (Adrien Monteleone)
  5. Re:  A new start - somewhat strange (David Carlson)
  6. Re:  Can someone tell me how A-L=Eq+(I-Ex) is correct?
      (Michael or Penny Novack)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:53:00 +0700
From: Norbert Klein 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] A new start - somewhat strange
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Self introduction: I am Norbert Klein, a 88 year old German, living
since 32 years in Cambodia.

Some years ago, I had been using GnuCash on a computer running under Ubuntu.

Some months ago, I wanted to set up GnuCash again, this time on a
computer using Windows? -? but before I could move ahead, I had a
hard-disk failure and had to get a news hard-disk.

Now I wanted to start again, Windows 10, GnuCash 4.11-1 setup
downloaded, I accepted all suggestions during setup; at the end I saw
the GnuCash icon on the desktop. I clicked on it, expecting some kind of
initial GnuCash program ? but I got only this:

?Unsaved Book ? GnuCash?




















Before I might make some mistakes, I rather ask. Any suggestions? Please?

Norbert ? nhkl...@mgmx.net






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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:10:22 -0400
From: "Derek Atkins" 
To: "Norbert Klein" 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] A new start - somewhat strange
Message-ID:
    <9558bf6d24aca151fa1b36c101be3bae.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8

Just create a new file:

 File -> New File

-derek

On Wed, August 31, 2022 6:53 am, Norbert Klein wrote:
> Self introduction: I am Norbert Klein, a 88 year old German, living
> since 32 years in Cambodia.
>
> Some years ago, I had been using GnuCash on a computer running under
> Ubuntu.
>
> Some months ago, I wanted to set up GnuCash again, this time on a
> computer using Windows? -? but before I could move ahead, I had a
> hard-disk failure and had to get a news hard-disk.
>
> Now I wanted to start again, Windows 10, GnuCash 4.11-1 setup
> downloaded, I accepted all suggestions during setup; at the end I saw
> the GnuCash icon on the desktop. I clicked on it, expecting some kind of
> initial GnuCash program ? but I got only this:
>
> ?Unsaved Book ? GnuCash?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Before I might make some mistakes, I rather ask. Any suggestions? Please?
>
> Norbert ? nhkl...@mgmx.net
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:36:02 -0400
From: Pa In 
To: adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net
Cc: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Reports: Account ending balances
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Perfect Adrian!

Setting the budget option 'beginning on' to the dated I want the budget
report to start works even if I do not enter any budget amounts.

Thanks again for your help.  I can now report the balances for all accounts
for multiple months in a single report for any accounting period.

Regards,

Julian

On Wed., Aug. 31, 2022, 1:03 a.m. Adrien Monteleone, <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Ah, you may indeed have to create a budget even if there are no budgeted
> figures. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but I think the budget
> report will requi

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 88

[Adrien Monteleone]

I would think Flatpak would be *way* easier than messing with Wine in 
this case. (one thing to install directly, not one direct & one indirect)


*And* there are folks on the list using the Flatpak who can help. Those 
who went the Wine route, while I'm sure there may be some, I would think 
are smaller in number.


And personally, if I just couldn't abide Flatpak for some reason, I'd 
opt to build from source. The experience isn't that terrible as long as 
you keep up with the dependency requirements as you upgrade GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/30/22 6:13 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

If you are a bit brave, you may want to attempt to install Wine
(https://wine.htmlvalidator.com/install-wine-on-ubuntustudio-20.04.html)
which can be done via repos and then install Windows version of GNC through
it. Be prepared that you may get terrible performance with this method.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 88

[Kalpesh Patel]

Unfortunately, when it comes to using bundled software with various Linux
distros that are out there, they are limited on resources so they normally
consider applications like GNC as fringe thing to their core offering so
that is the last thing that gets traction if any. I am afraid I do not know
any repo that would allow you to install it in such manner in Ubuntu Studio.
If there is anyone that knows of such facility then you are in the best
forum where they will speak up and let you know. 

Installing flatpak version is not that difficult (I used to compile things
ground up on UNIX/Linux systems many many moons ago). I am most likely
outnumbered here in this forum as I am on Windows platform but core of the
folks here use it on some form of Linux distro so there is better bet that
if you run into some sort of issue with flatpak, someone will be able to
help here overcome it. There were few important bugs, IMHO at least, that
were fixed by the team in 4.11 that were observed in 4.8 GNC that are
applicable to brokerage related transactions. 

If you are a bit brave, you may want to attempt to install Wine
(https://wine.htmlvalidator.com/install-wine-on-ubuntustudio-20.04.html)
which can be done via repos and then install Windows version of GNC through
it. Be prepared that you may get terrible performance with this method. 

 

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 10:46:32 +0200
From: "rsbrux" 
To: 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GC 3.11 crashes during "Check & Repair"
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="UTF-8"

Thanks Kalpesh,
My problem is that the Ubuntu Studio 22.04 repositories only have GC 4.8,
and I don't feel competent to install a Flatpak.
Is there a repository I can add to my Software Sources to install later GC
versions?
If not, how about a snap?  I would feel more comfortable with that than with
a Flatpak, because snap is already baked in to Ubuntu Studio 22.04.

-Original Message-
From: Kalpesh Patel  
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 10:45 PM
To: rsb...@yahoo.com
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] GC 3.11 crashes during "Check & Repair"

4.11 is the current official release so it won't hurt to go to that version
instead of 4.8. 

I use compressed XML version of file running on Windows 11 and frankly
speaking I never had to revert back to previous version of data file for
being corrupt. This history goes back to since 3.x version days. 
 
I do reconcile my accounts, including brokerage, on 6 to 7 month cycles and
have found to match transactions downloaded so corruption is least of
worries with GNC.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 16:25:23 +0200
From: "rsbrux" 
To: 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GC 3.11 crashes during "Check & Repair"
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="UTF-8"

Many thanks to all who have offered help and advice.  The following evidence
strongly suggests a memory management problem to me:
1. I was able to perform "Check & Repair" on all accounts and subaccounts by
dividing them up into smaller groups, saving, exiting and restarting GC in
between.
2. If I tried to "Check & Repair" too much at once, GUI response would slow
dramatically and GC would forget how to do things it had already done
successful in the same session, e.g. saving, which, when attempted, produced
messages like:
>>
* 22:08:34  WARN  [gnc_builder_connect_full_func()] ggaff: could
not find signal handler 'gnc_ui_file_access_response_cb'.
<<
I now have what I think is a working and fully checked file in GC 3.11 for
Windows and will now try upgrading it to 4.8 in Ubuntu Studio.
My file does include Trading accounts, so Kalpesh's suspicions may be right.
However, this raises the question of whether I need a newer version than 4.8
in Ubuntu Studio.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 83

[Kalpesh Patel]

This might be the bug that I had hit in 4.8 of GNC which might had been
carried forward since 3.11 and prior when performing "Check & Repair" (yah,
I was a Quicken User). When I ran into the bug, crash was with "Check &
Repairs All" which likely uses same routines under the hood. Bug 798346 is
the ID for it which was fixed by John.


Best bet is to go in "blindly" and not perform "Check & Repair" until you
are past version 4.8 of GNC.



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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 15:10:13 +0200
From: "rsbrux" <>
To: 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GC 3.11 crashes during "Check & Repair"
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="utf-8"

Thanks for all the references, particularly for reminding me to check the
trace file.  Unfortunately, the only error messages logged in the trace file
were at the beginning of the process:
* 09:31:56 ERROR  gnc_process_get_fd: assertion 'proc' failed
* 09:31:56 ERROR  gnc_detach_process: assertion 'proc &&
proc->pid' failed
I am reluctant to venture into gdb, much less compiling GC myself, but
perhaps these lines at the end of the trace file give a hint to which part
of the XML file is giving "Check & Repair" indigestion:
* 10:07:41  INFO  [xaccAccountScrubImbalance] Finished
processing split 113 of 304
* 10:07:41  INFO  [xaccAccountScrubImbalance] Start
processing split 114 of 304
Is there any way for me to identify what part of the XML file "split 114 of
304" corresponds to?
Given that GC was started several times by mistake when price update were
running on the same file, I suspect that the bad records are in the price
history part of the DB.
I can readily do without the price history if there is some way of migrating
all of the transactions to the new file version.

Of course I ran 3.11 on a copy.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 68

[Chris Skudder]

   GnuCash will do the accounting fine.
   It won't do the equipment, RMA, and inventory tracking.
   I suspect it'll be very hard to find a software which integrates these
   other functions with accounting - because of that, if it were me, I'd
   use GnuCash for the accounting, and look for other solutions for the
   other functions.
   Chris
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   Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 68

Message: 7
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2022 10:32:03 -0400
From: Dave Mueller AA3EE [3]
To: [4]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Is GnuCash right for me?
Message-ID: [5]<3d2f789355cdf0a0da9e91379e1d3...@ditdit.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

HI Everyone,
Sorry for the totally noob uneducated question. I'm an engineer by
training, not an accountant!
I recently started a home business and everyone said "Quickbooks". It's
too expensive and I despise subscription software. Online/cloud options
are not an option, we have limited (and expensive) internet where we
live.

The business is repairing custom electronic equipment.
What I want/need:
Basic money tracking for the checking account.
Keep track of equipment based on serial number (I was thinking a
database). Here I will keep a record of owner(s), data like software
versions, and work done per RMA.
RMA tracking (another database?). Ability to generate RMA numbers or use
one supplied by the distributor.
Invoicing based on what was done on an RMA (labor, parts and state tax
if applicable).
Simple payroll (I'm the only employee).
Light duty inventory control. I have about 30 items, some are almost too
cheap to track, a few items are expensive, some of those are supplied by
the manufacturer so I need to settle with them at the end of the month.

My wife wants to run the entire business from Excel, and in one
spreadsheet I think? Databases seem more proper to me :-)

Thanks and enjoy the weekend.

Dave


   -- Dit Dit Electronics

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 50

[Fred Bone]

On 14 August 2022 at 16:17, James Baxter said:

> Is there an app to work with your cell/mobile phone.
> Thanks James Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 50

[Adrien Monteleone]

Not officially.

There was a 'GnuCash for Android' created by someone else that is no 
longer maintained for a few years now. (it was never a part of the same 
project)


There may be other apps that can export their transactions which you can 
then import to GnuCash on your computer.


Maybe someone who uses one can help.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/14/22 11:17 AM, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:

Is there an app to work with your cell/mobile phone.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 50

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

Is there an app to work with your cell/mobile phone.
Thanks James Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com 

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  Crash in Trial Balance report (Fred Tydeman)
  2.  Crash in Trial Balance (flywire)
  3. Re:  Crash in Trial Balance report (David Carlson)
  4. Re:  Crash in Trial Balance report (David Carlson)
  5. Re:  How to bulk import about 130 Securities entries?
      (Tom Browder)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 10:10:23 -0400
From: Fred Tydeman 
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Christopher Lam , Gnucash Users
    
Subject: Re: [GNC] Crash in Trial Balance report
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798550

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 10:06 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> If that 798550 is a gnucash Bugzilla report number  I couldn't find it in
> a search.  Can you provide a link?
>


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 00:18:20 +1000
From: flywire 
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Crash in Trial Balance
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

They look big numbers. I wonder if it's an overflow issue.


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 09:37:41 -0500
From: David Carlson 
To: tydeman.f...@gmail.com
Cc: Christopher Lam , Gnucash Users
    
Subject: Re: [GNC] Crash in Trial Balance report
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I guess GnuCash on my cellphone doesn't work as I expect.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 9:10 AM Fred Tydeman  wrote:

> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798550
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 10:06 AM David Carlson <
> david.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If that 798550 is a gnucash Bugzilla report number  I couldn't find it
>> in a search.  Can you provide a link?
>>
>
>


-- 
David Carlson


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 09:39:01 -0500
From: David Carlson 
To: tydeman.f...@gmail.com
Cc: Christopher Lam , Gnucash Users
    
Subject: Re: [GNC] Crash in Trial Balance report
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I was trying to complain about gmail, gnot Gnucash

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 9:37 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> I guess GnuCash on my cellphone doesn't work as I expect.
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 9:10 AM Fred Tydeman 
> wrote:
>
>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798550
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 10:06 AM David Carlson <
>> david.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If that 798550 is a gnucash Bugzilla report number  I couldn't find it
>>> in a search.  Can you provide a link?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> David Carlson
>


-- 
David Carlson


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 09:50:28 -0500
From: Tom Browder 
To: Geoff 
Cc: Gnucash Users , Jim DeLaHunt
    
Subject: Re: [GNC] How to bulk import about 130 Securities entries?
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 00:40 Geoff  wrote:

> Hi Jim
>
> I don't have any experience manipulating GnuCash XML files, but in
> principle what you want to do should work, although it does void your
> GnuCash warranty.
>
> However, if you are going to all this effort you may find it more
> worthwhile to invest your time in learning how to use a general purpose
> automation tool.  This approach has two advantages over data manipulation:
> (1) Automation drives the GnuCash GUI and thus protects you from
> accidental data corruption.
> (2) You will be able to use your new automation skills to automate any
> subsequent GnuCash tasks, for example loading historical transactions to
> your 130 securities.
>
> For Windows, check out:
> AutoHotKey https://www.autohotkey.com/


Geoff, that looks very interesting, thanks for the link. I do most of my
work on Linux, but I do have to do some things on Windows (TL;DR), so this
is very useful.

One of the things I'm not sure about is how powerful the script is. For
instance, can it determine the date for 16 months before the current date?
That's one of the requirements for one of my banks earliest date of data
retrieval. And one has to start over again for each different account.

If it can't, then I will use the power of Raku to regenerate the autohotkey
script for the current date.

Best regards,

-Tom

P.S. Is there a spot on the Wiki to lis

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 34

[davidcousens49]

Adrien,

It does indeed  Menu->Administration->Backup Tool. I don't usually make use of
it as my NAS initiates and carries out my main backups for me and a couple of
crons do the rest. It looks like it can access network locations too. I have a
mixed Linux/Windows (can't convert the wife) setup which the NAS handles for me

David

On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 00:35 -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, Mint has a backup utility. So you can just set it 
> up and make sure the GnuCash locations noted in the Wiki and Guide are 
> included in the paths to be backed up.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 8/10/22 9:29 PM, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote:
> > James
> > 
> > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html
> > 
> > The info https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations is also
> > useful
> > for backing up user preferences and things like customized reports.
> > 
> > To back up to a USB drive on Linux Mint, the drive should appear in the file
> > manager (icon that looks like a filing cabinet folder in the LH panel of the
> > Menu) once you have plugged it in and it is mounted. Navigate to andelect
> > the
> > folder containing the data file Ctr-c to copy it. Navigate to the USB hard
> > drive
> > and select a suitable directory to keep your backups in on the Hard drive
> > and
> > Ctrl-v to paste a copy there (or use the Edit items in the menu).
> > 
> > How to do actually backups is an operating system issue and not really a
> > GnuCash
> > issue. Gnucash's internal backup, logfiles and restore capability are
> > primarily
> > about recovering from a datafile corrupted by a GnuCash program crash,
> > rather
> > than general computer failures like a hard disk failure.  There are any
> > number
> > of articles on general computer backup strategies on the internet depending
> > on
> > the facilities you have available and how much you want to spend setting it
> > up.
> > A good practice is at least a backup to another local device in your
> > home  (USB
> > disk, NAS, another computer) and a backup to an offsite facility to protect
> > you
> > if your house burns down for example (USB stick kept by a relative ot cloud
> > facility)
> > 
> > On Linux you can create "cron" jobs to schedule automatic backups if this is
> > useful. For example I backup critical files to a cloud storage as well as
> > local
> > network storage on my LAN automatically daily and synchronize files between
> > my
> > laptop and desktop with Unison whenever they are connected so there are
> > always
> > multiple copies of my most recent datafile. My NAS is separately backedp up
> > to
> > cloud storage.
> 
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 34

[Adrien Monteleone]

If I'm not mistaken, Mint has a backup utility. So you can just set it 
up and make sure the GnuCash locations noted in the Wiki and Guide are 
included in the paths to be backed up.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/10/22 9:29 PM, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote:


James

https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html

The info https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations is also useful
for backing up user preferences and things like customized reports.

To back up to a USB drive on Linux Mint, the drive should appear in the file
manager (icon that looks like a filing cabinet folder in the LH panel of the
Menu) once you have plugged it in and it is mounted. Navigate to andelect the
folder containing the data file Ctr-c to copy it. Navigate to the USB hard drive
and select a suitable directory to keep your backups in on the Hard drive and
Ctrl-v to paste a copy there (or use the Edit items in the menu).

How to do actually backups is an operating system issue and not really a GnuCash
issue. Gnucash's internal backup, logfiles and restore capability are primarily
about recovering from a datafile corrupted by a GnuCash program crash, rather
than general computer failures like a hard disk failure.  There are any number
of articles on general computer backup strategies on the internet depending on
the facilities you have available and how much you want to spend setting it up.
A good practice is at least a backup to another local device in your home  (USB
disk, NAS, another computer) and a backup to an offsite facility to protect you
if your house burns down for example (USB stick kept by a relative ot cloud
facility)

On Linux you can create "cron" jobs to schedule automatic backups if this is
useful. For example I backup critical files to a cloud storage as well as local
network storage on my LAN automatically daily and synchronize files between my
laptop and desktop with Unison whenever they are connected so there are always
multiple copies of my most recent datafile. My NAS is separately backedp up to
cloud storage.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 34

[davidcousens49]

James

https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html

The info https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations is also useful
for backing up user preferences and things like customized reports.

To back up to a USB drive on Linux Mint, the drive should appear in the file
manager (icon that looks like a filing cabinet folder in the LH panel of the
Menu) once you have plugged it in and it is mounted. Navigate to andelect the
folder containing the data file Ctr-c to copy it. Navigate to the USB hard drive
and select a suitable directory to keep your backups in on the Hard drive and
Ctrl-v to paste a copy there (or use the Edit items in the menu).

How to do actually backups is an operating system issue and not really a GnuCash
issue. Gnucash's internal backup, logfiles and restore capability are primarily
about recovering from a datafile corrupted by a GnuCash program crash, rather
than general computer failures like a hard disk failure.  There are any number
of articles on general computer backup strategies on the internet depending on
the facilities you have available and how much you want to spend setting it up.
A good practice is at least a backup to another local device in your home  (USB
disk, NAS, another computer) and a backup to an offsite facility to protect you
if your house burns down for example (USB stick kept by a relative ot cloud
facility)

On Linux you can create "cron" jobs to schedule automatic backups if this is
useful. For example I backup critical files to a cloud storage as well as local
network storage on my LAN automatically daily and synchronize files between my
laptop and desktop with Unison whenever they are connected so there are always
multiple copies of my most recent datafile. My NAS is separately backedp up to
cloud storage.

David Cousens



On Wed, 2022-08-10 at 23:07 +, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:
>  
> Does anybody know how to make a backup of your hard drive. I am looking to
> back up Gnucash for the most part. I have a drive that i can plug into the USB
> port.
> ThanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022, 12:00:27 PM EDT, 
> gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org  wrote:  
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> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1.  Build From Source Near Impossible (flywire)
>   2. Re:  Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads (Tom Browder)
>   3.  Possible Bug in Credit Note Display (Robert Simmons)
>   4.  Monthly period in charts should use end-of-month values, not
>   start (Colin Arndt)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 16:58:46 +1000
> From: flywire 
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: [GNC] Build From Source Near Impossible
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-July/102045.html
> > You're correct that the Python bindings aren't included.
> 
> I'd be happy with a non-standard download available that included the
> bindings. It wouldn't need gui support.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:19:27 -0500
> From: Tom Browder 
> To: Tracy 
> Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 00:00 Tracy  wrote:
> 
> > As with so many things, your mileage may vary, but...
> 
> Thanks so much, Tracy?that?s very helpful. Some of those banks are in my
> area.
> 
> -Tom
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:18:42 -0400
> From: Robert Simmons 
> To: Mailing List Gnucash 
> Subject: [GNC] Possible Bug in Credit Note Display
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> In the Entries part of an open credit note tab, the row focus can be
> assigned by clicking on a row. This changes the selected row from green to
> yellow. Also, it changes the value in the Subtotal column to zero. This
> appears to just be a software defect in the display: there are no changes
> made to the underlying data in the database. If you select a different row,
> the previously selected row's subtotal returns to normal and the newly
> selected row's subtotal changes to zero.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:57:56 -0400
> From: Colin Arndt 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 34

[Glenn Fowler]

Hi,

Backing up your whole hard drive would be out of scope for this mailing
list, but if you want to backup your GnuCash book it's just a file. Just
copy/paste it.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 7:07 PM James Baxter via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>
> Does anybody know how to make a backup of your hard drive. I am looking to
> back up Gnucash for the most part. I have a drive that i can plug into the
> USB port.
> ThanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022, 12:00:27 PM EDT,
> gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org 
> wrote:
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> Today's Topics:
>
>   1.  Build From Source Near Impossible (flywire)
>   2. Re:  Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads (Tom Browder)
>   3.  Possible Bug in Credit Note Display (Robert Simmons)
>   4.  Monthly period in charts should use end-of-month values, not
>   start (Colin Arndt)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 16:58:46 +1000
> From: flywire 
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: [GNC] Build From Source Near Impossible
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-July/102045.html
> > You're correct that the Python bindings aren't included.
>
> I'd be happy with a non-standard download available that included the
> bindings. It wouldn't need gui support.
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:19:27 -0500
> From: Tom Browder 
> To: Tracy 
> Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 00:00 Tracy  wrote:
>
> > As with so many things, your mileage may vary, but...
>
>
> Thanks so much, Tracy?that?s very helpful. Some of those banks are in my
> area.
>
> -Tom
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:18:42 -0400
> From: Robert Simmons 
> To: Mailing List Gnucash 
> Subject: [GNC] Possible Bug in Credit Note Display
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> In the Entries part of an open credit note tab, the row focus can be
> assigned by clicking on a row. This changes the selected row from green to
> yellow. Also, it changes the value in the Subtotal column to zero. This
> appears to just be a software defect in the display: there are no changes
> made to the underlying data in the database. If you select a different row,
> the previously selected row's subtotal returns to normal and the newly
> selected row's subtotal changes to zero.
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:57:56 -0400
> From: Colin Arndt 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Monthly period in charts should use end-of-month
> values, not start
> Message-ID: <0f880b41-780d-49a5-957e-29c50c5ab...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>
> Hello fellow GnuCashers,
>
> I?ve used GnuCash very happily the last few years - it?s a fantastic
> application with superlative support from both the developers and fellow
> users on this list. But here?s my issue.
>
> Today I created a bar chart report tracking my cash across bank accounts
> over time.
>
> When using Month as the period (step size), the report returns the balance
> at the start of the month, not the end.
>
> I was looking at the bar for January of this year, confused why it didn?t
> include a bonus I got at work. It took me a moment to realize the report
> used January 1st balances. Therefore, that deposit wasn?t reflected until
> February. This means when interpreting the bar values, I have to mentally
> shift them all back one month.
>
> Another example. If I want to see the cash balance at the end of 2021, I
> have to look at the January 2022 bar, not the December 2021 one.
>
> Do you see my point? In some cases I can see this making sense, but not
> for this use case. A period?s balance should be calculated from the end of
> the period, not the start.
>
> Could an option be added to use the end of a period vs the start?
>
> Thanks for considering,
> Colin
>
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>
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 34

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

 
Does anybody know how to make a backup of your hard drive. I am looking to back 
up Gnucash for the most part. I have a drive that i can plug into the USB port.
ThanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
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Today's Topics:

  1.  Build From Source Near Impossible (flywire)
  2. Re:  Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads (Tom Browder)
  3.  Possible Bug in Credit Note Display (Robert Simmons)
  4.  Monthly period in charts should use end-of-month values, not
      start (Colin Arndt)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 16:58:46 +1000
From: flywire 
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: [GNC] Build From Source Near Impossible
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-July/102045.html
> You're correct that the Python bindings aren't included.

I'd be happy with a non-standard download available that included the
bindings. It wouldn't need gui support.


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 05:19:27 -0500
From: Tom Browder 
To: Tracy 
Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Banks with OFX or CSV account data downloads
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 00:00 Tracy  wrote:

> As with so many things, your mileage may vary, but...


Thanks so much, Tracy?that?s very helpful. Some of those banks are in my
area.

-Tom


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:18:42 -0400
From: Robert Simmons 
To: Mailing List Gnucash 
Subject: [GNC] Possible Bug in Credit Note Display
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

In the Entries part of an open credit note tab, the row focus can be
assigned by clicking on a row. This changes the selected row from green to
yellow. Also, it changes the value in the Subtotal column to zero. This
appears to just be a software defect in the display: there are no changes
made to the underlying data in the database. If you select a different row,
the previously selected row's subtotal returns to normal and the newly
selected row's subtotal changes to zero.


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:57:56 -0400
From: Colin Arndt 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Monthly period in charts should use end-of-month
    values, not start
Message-ID: <0f880b41-780d-49a5-957e-29c50c5ab...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8

Hello fellow GnuCashers,

I?ve used GnuCash very happily the last few years - it?s a fantastic 
application with superlative support from both the developers and fellow users 
on this list. But here?s my issue.

Today I created a bar chart report tracking my cash across bank accounts over 
time. 

When using Month as the period (step size), the report returns the balance at 
the start of the month, not the end.

I was looking at the bar for January of this year, confused why it didn?t 
include a bonus I got at work. It took me a moment to realize the report used 
January 1st balances. Therefore, that deposit wasn?t reflected until February. 
This means when interpreting the bar values, I have to mentally shift them all 
back one month.

Another example. If I want to see the cash balance at the end of 2021, I have 
to look at the January 2022 bar, not the December 2021 one.

Do you see my point? In some cases I can see this making sense, but not for 
this use case. A period?s balance should be calculated from the end of the 
period, not the start.

Could an option be added to use the end of a period vs the start? 

Thanks for considering,
Colin

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 27

[Glenn Fowler]

e: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 15:29:22 -0500
> > From: Adrien Monteleone 
> > To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > That's just another workaround though. It creates multiple transactions
> > when in the real world, there was only one event.
> >
> > The Process Payment feature doesn't really 'support' the desired
> > function, but can still be used to accomplish the the task.
> >
> > I'm personally comfortable using the 'assign payment' function, but I
> > understand why others may prefer or expect the Process Payment window to
> > facilitate this in one go.
> >
> > It isn't an entirely unreasonable request, and it was presented as just
> > that, a request.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 8/8/22 3:07 PM, R. Victor Klassen wrote:
> > > Actually you can edit the suggested payment amount, and only ?process?
> a
> > partial payment.  Then you can pay again, using Process Payment, and pay
> > with a different account for the second payment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 16:33:10 -0400
> > From: Robert Simmons 
> > To: Mailing List Gnucash 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] gncJobNextID in gncJob.c not in gncJob.h
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > That makes sense. So, performance would not be an argument for SQL and
> > against a graph database.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 17:13:04 -0400
> > From: "Derek Atkins" 
> > To: "Robert Simmons" 
> > Cc: "Mailing List Gnucash" 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] gncJobNextID in gncJob.c not in gncJob.h
> > Message-ID:
> > <6011f593f0fa7d8b2fdcb6cb1b363545.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> > On Mon, August 8, 2022 4:33 pm, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > > That makes sense. So, performance would not be an argument for SQL and
> > > against a graph database.
> >
> > Nor would it be an argument for graph and against SQL.  But transactional
> > data is so structured that SQL really does make sense.
> >
> > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> >
> > --
> >   Derek Atkins617-623-3745
> >   de...@ihtfp.comwww.ihtfp.com
> >   Computer and Internet Security Consultant
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 17:43:13 -0400
> > From: "R. Victor Klassen" 
> > To: Derek Atkins 
> > Cc: Robert Simmons , Mailing List Gnucash
> >     
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] gncJobNextID in gncJob.c not in gncJob.h
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, how does one determine those numbers?  An SQL
> > query?  grep  | wc on the xml?  Some feature of gnuCash I?ve
> never
> > discovered?
> >
> > > On Aug 8, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, August 8, 2022 3:21 pm, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > >>> Accounting systems primarily perform the same operation on large
> > numbers
> > >> of data elements.
> > >>
> > >> I wish I had time to devote to this. I use graph databases in many of
> > the
> > >> other systems that I develop. This would be a great pivot point on
> which
> > >> to
> > >> create a new open source project and see which paradigm really is
> > better.
> > >> But really I need to get my data organized and then handed off to an
> > >> accountant (so I can get back to working on my real work).
> > >
> > > My GnuCash database, which has data going back to at least 2007, only
> > > contains 26781 transactions, with 59582 splits (at least 2 per
> > > transaction), over a total of 564 "accounts".
> > >
> > > Even if you increase by a factor of 10, I doubt you're going to see any
> > > significant performance differences between databases of similar
> nominal
> > > performance.
> > >
>

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 27

[David Carlson]

not be an argument for SQL and
> against a graph database.
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 17:13:04 -0400
> From: "Derek Atkins" 
> To: "Robert Simmons" 
> Cc: "Mailing List Gnucash" 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] gncJobNextID in gncJob.c not in gncJob.h
> Message-ID:
> <6011f593f0fa7d8b2fdcb6cb1b363545.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>
>
> On Mon, August 8, 2022 4:33 pm, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > That makes sense. So, performance would not be an argument for SQL and
> > against a graph database.
>
> Nor would it be an argument for graph and against SQL.  But transactional
> data is so structured that SQL really does make sense.
>
> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
>
> -derek
>
>
> --
>   Derek Atkins617-623-3745
>   de...@ihtfp.comwww.ihtfp.com
>   Computer and Internet Security Consultant
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 17:43:13 -0400
> From: "R. Victor Klassen" 
> To: Derek Atkins 
> Cc: Robert Simmons , Mailing List Gnucash
> 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] gncJobNextID in gncJob.c not in gncJob.h
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>
> Just out of curiosity, how does one determine those numbers?  An SQL
> query?  grep  | wc on the xml?  Some feature of gnuCash I?ve never
> discovered?
>
> > On Aug 8, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, August 8, 2022 3:21 pm, Robert Simmons wrote:
> >>> Accounting systems primarily perform the same operation on large
> numbers
> >> of data elements.
> >>
> >> I wish I had time to devote to this. I use graph databases in many of
> the
> >> other systems that I develop. This would be a great pivot point on which
> >> to
> >> create a new open source project and see which paradigm really is
> better.
> >> But really I need to get my data organized and then handed off to an
> >> accountant (so I can get back to working on my real work).
> >
> > My GnuCash database, which has data going back to at least 2007, only
> > contains 26781 transactions, with 59582 splits (at least 2 per
> > transaction), over a total of 564 "accounts".
> >
> > Even if you increase by a factor of 10, I doubt you're going to see any
> > significant performance differences between databases of similar nominal
> > performance.
> >
> >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > --
> >  Derek Atkins617-623-3745
> >  de...@ihtfp.comwww.ihtfp.com
> >  Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 07:50:48 +1000
> From: davidcousen...@gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 22
> Message-ID: <44e48296284e1d0e3a819c69aa012c3aecb6e95b.ca...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> James,
>
> If you are not seeing the transactions you have already entered and the
> accounts in the account tab it is possible that you have not saved the
> datafile. To do this use the File-Save As menu item immediately after
> starting GnuCash up. It will then automatically open the same file next
> time you startup. You are usually prompted to save the data file when a new
> file is opened however I have had the prompt dialogue get lots behind other
> windows on Linux Mint.
> It is best if you create a directory in your home directory for the
> GnuCash data
> file and then save it with a suitable filename in that directory. Gnucash
> creates backup and log files each time it is run in the same directory as
> the
> data files is located  and it is much neater to have all of these in a
> single
> directory and it makes backup of your files simpler. There are a

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 27

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

uriosity, how does one determine those numbers?  An SQL query?  
grep  | wc on the xml?  Some feature of gnuCash I?ve never discovered? 
 

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, August 8, 2022 3:21 pm, Robert Simmons wrote:
>>> Accounting systems primarily perform the same operation on large numbers
>> of data elements.
>> 
>> I wish I had time to devote to this. I use graph databases in many of the
>> other systems that I develop. This would be a great pivot point on which
>> to
>> create a new open source project and see which paradigm really is better.
>> But really I need to get my data organized and then handed off to an
>> accountant (so I can get back to working on my real work).
> 
> My GnuCash database, which has data going back to at least 2007, only
> contains 26781 transactions, with 59582 splits (at least 2 per
> transaction), over a total of 564 "accounts".
> 
> Even if you increase by a factor of 10, I doubt you're going to see any
> significant performance differences between databases of similar nominal
> performance.
> 
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> 
> -derek
> 
> -- 
>      Derek Atkins                617-623-3745
>      de...@ihtfp.com            www.ihtfp.com
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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 07:50:48 +1000
From: davidcousen...@gmail.com
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 22
Message-ID: <44e48296284e1d0e3a819c69aa012c3aecb6e95b.ca...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

James,

If you are not seeing the transactions you have already entered and the 
accounts in the account tab it is possible that you have not saved the 
datafile. To do this use the File-Save As menu item immediately after starting 
GnuCash up. It will then automatically open the same file next time you 
startup. You are usually prompted to save the data file when a new file is 
opened however I have had the prompt dialogue get lots behind other windows on 
Linux Mint.
It is best if you create a directory in your home directory for the GnuCash data
file and then save it with a suitable filename in that directory. Gnucash
creates backup and log files each time it is run in the same directory as the
data files is located  and it is much neater to have all of these in a single
directory and it makes backup of your files simpler. There are also preferences
for autosaving the file periodically which AFAIK is set at ~20min by default. It
is best to exit by the File->Quit  (File ->Close only closes the account
register which is open) menu item to ensure the data you have entered is saved,
although recent changes ensure closing the window by other means will also force
a data save.

David Cousens

On Mon, 2022-08-08 at 19:11 +, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:
> David.Thanks for the email. I am not shore about data file. I did get a
> transfee going. But I should know next month if it works.
> ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>  On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 2:16 PM, David Carlson
> wrote:  James,Have you been able to create a test data file and enter a few
> transactions modelled on the information in the help manual?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:01 AM Fred Bone  wrote:
> 
> On 08 August 2022 at 13:54, James Baxter said:
> 
> >  I am looking for something that I may have already. I have had Linux Mint
> >  loaded on this laptop for about a month. also have been playing with
> >  Gnucash about 3 weeks. still getting us to this, As I find it very nice
> >  program.
> > As i dont know if I have a problem with the two of them, I don't know. So
> > if anybody know if Gnucash will bring down the items it needs to work
> > with. I am looking to do a schooling on Linux, go from there. thanksJames
> > baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
> 
> Kindly pay attention to:
> 
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..."
> 
> and please trim your posts.
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 22

[davidcousens49]

James,

If you are not seeing the transactions you have already entered and the 
accounts in the account tab it is possible that you have not saved the 
datafile. To do this use the File-Save As menu item immediately after starting 
GnuCash up. It will then automatically open the same file next time you 
startup. You are usually prompted to save the data file when a new file is 
opened however I have had the prompt dialogue get lots behind other windows on 
Linux Mint.
It is best if you create a directory in your home directory for the GnuCash data
file and then save it with a suitable filename in that directory. Gnucash
creates backup and log files each time it is run in the same directory as the
data files is located  and it is much neater to have all of these in a single
directory and it makes backup of your files simpler. There are also preferences
for autosaving the file periodically which AFAIK is set at ~20min by default. It
is best to exit by the File->Quit  (File ->Close only closes the account
register which is open) menu item to ensure the data you have entered is saved,
although recent changes ensure closing the window by other means will also force
a data save.

David Cousens

On Mon, 2022-08-08 at 19:11 +, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:
> David.Thanks for the email. I am not shore about data file. I did get a
> transfee going. But I should know next month if it works.
> ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>   On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 2:16 PM, David Carlson
> wrote:   James,Have you been able to create a test data file and enter a few
> transactions modelled on the information in the help manual?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:01 AM Fred Bone  wrote:
> 
> On 08 August 2022 at 13:54, James Baxter said:
> 
> >   I am looking for something that I may have already. I have had Linux Mint
> >   loaded on this laptop for about a month. also have been playing with
> >   Gnucash about 3 weeks. still getting us to this, As I find it very nice
> >   program.
> > As i dont know if I have a problem with the two of them, I don't know. So
> > if anybody know if Gnucash will bring down the items it needs to work
> > with. I am looking to do a schooling on Linux, go from there. thanksJames
> > baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
> 
> Kindly pay attention to:
> 
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..."
> 
> and please trim your posts.
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[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

David.Thanks for the email. I am not shore about data file. I did get a 
transfee going. But I should know next month if it works.
ThanksJames Baxter kangaro...@yahoo.com 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 2:16 PM, David Carlson 
wrote:   James,Have you been able to create a test data file and enter a few 
transactions modelled on the information in the help manual?

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:01 AM Fred Bone  wrote:

On 08 August 2022 at 13:54, James Baxter said:

>  I am looking for something that I may have already. I have had Linux Mint
>  loaded on this laptop for about a month. also have been playing with
>  Gnucash about 3 weeks. still getting us to this, As I find it very nice
>  program.
> As i dont know if I have a problem with the two of them, I don't know. So
> if anybody know if Gnucash will bring down the items it needs to work
> with. I am looking to do a schooling on Linux, go from there. thanksJames
> baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com

Kindly pay attention to:

> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..."

and please trim your posts.

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[David Carlson]

James,
Have you been able to create a test data file and enter a few transactions
modelled on the information in the help manual?

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:01 AM Fred Bone  wrote:

> On 08 August 2022 at 13:54, James Baxter said:
>
> >  I am looking for something that I may have already. I have had Linux
> Mint
> >  loaded on this laptop for about a month. also have been playing with
> >  Gnucash about 3 weeks. still getting us to this, As I find it very nice
> >  program.
> > As i dont know if I have a problem with the two of them, I don't know. So
> > if anybody know if Gnucash will bring down the items it needs to work
> > with. I am looking to do a schooling on Linux, go from there. thanksJames
> > baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
>
> Kindly pay attention to:
>
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..."
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> and please trim your posts.
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[Fred Bone]

On 08 August 2022 at 13:54, James Baxter said:

>  I am looking for something that I may have already. I have had Linux Mint
>  loaded on this laptop for about a month. also have been playing with
>  Gnucash about 3 weeks. still getting us to this, As I find it very nice
>  program.
> As i dont know if I have a problem with the two of them, I don't know. So
> if anybody know if Gnucash will bring down the items it needs to work
> with. I am looking to do a schooling on Linux, go from there. thanksJames
> baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 22

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

features in GnuCash
> Message-ID: <1e0d8ed8-6ba0-b5b8-4190-8664b349f...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 07.08.22 um 03:04 schrieb Eric Hammond:
>> The second is the ability to pay bills from more than one source. Example I 
>> purchase an oscilloscope and pay for it with a cash incentive from the 
>> company and a bank transfer for the rest. My solution at the present is not 
>> pretty, nor helpful if I look at it next year.
> 
> Then it's time to claim your easter egg ;-):
> Edit->Peeferences->Register Defaults,
> select Default Style: "Auto-Split ledger" or "Transaction Journal"
> 
> More details in
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/set-prefs.html#prefs-reg-def
> 
> Then you can easily enter the differnt amounts.
> 
> Regards
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 17:44:36 +1000
> From: flywire 
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
> Message-ID:
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> More cat skinning:
> 
>> * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems:
> *
> 
> In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it
> will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash).
> 
> Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag
> shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 06:28:50 -0500
> From: Tom Browder 
> To: Chris Good 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
> Message-ID:
>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 21:25 Chris Good  wrote:
>> From: Tom Browder 
>> Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2022 12:37 AM
>> To: Chris Good 
>> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 08:51 Chris Good  wrote:
>> 
>> ..,
>> 
>> Can you copy the text out of the pdf statement?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Getting "organized" text programmatically out of PDF is a giant pain. My 
>> current approach is almost completely programmatic. BTW, Raku is the 
>> "sister" language of Perl, and it is a "scripting" language.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Raku can also use Perl modules so I can use Finance::Quote with it if need 
>> be. But, until I can get the bank data working, I won't be needing it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I was actually suggesting you just highlight the transactions in the pdf 
>> statement and copy/paste them into a
>> 
>> spreadsheet or text file before using a scripting language to reformat them 
>> but if you can programmatically
>> extract the text that would be better long term.
> 
> But I did see Peter West's warning about checking results
> carefully--it's not always the expected result. Although I hope the
> products from the same source are consistent enough to make it
> reasonably fool proof. (See my comments below.)
> 
>> I notice with my PDF statement that (free) Adobe Acrobat DC no longer allows 
>> me to select text (as they want me to pay for a fancy tool - BOO) but if you 
>> send the pdf to Edge or Chrome you can select just the transaction text.
> 
> Yes, I now see my "PDF COmplete" on Windows can do that--I never
> thought of doing that until now.
> 
>> Thanks for the info re Raku.
> 
> You're welcome! I'm always happy for programmers to learn about Raku
> 
>> Finance::Quote is just for getting stock prices from websites (usually) so 
>> not useful for this task.
> 
> Right, but good to know for later.
> 
>> Are you sure you cannot export transactions from your bank? All mine do 
>> although sometimes it is hard to find.
> 
> Yes, and I agree it's sometimes hard to find. Yesterday I did find one
> bank (the bank I'm leaving) does have two choices of download for the
> credit card: CSV and OFX. That is very helpful for working on a
> transformation algorithm. I did look at the PDF to text transformation
> on one of the new bank's statements (definitely nothing but PDFs) and
> it looks surprisingly usable, so that's exciting.
> 
> I was too hasty in my outright condemnation of PDF t

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 20

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

 This is James Baxter,  email kangaro...@yahoo.com
As i do this every time. as i read that we need to place something in the CC. 
so that is to do with email
I was also asking if anybody can place an icon (desk top) item on screen. As i 
was watching somebody on youtube. so if in Linux Mint. if you look in the key 
board you will find the windows key. so when you are in youtube and you need an 
icon on you desk top. The linux icon in the bottom left of your screen. you 
click that or the windows buttom, find the program you need (Gnucash) Click on 
it (should be on the right side ) then drag it to the left side where all the 
icons are. you can move it up and to where you need it.I can do screen shoots 
of this. I hope I am understood.
thanksJames Baxter

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 22:09:03 +0800
From: Christopher Lam 
To: Tom Browder 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

You may try this service which is free for personal use. (Not mine)

https://bankstatementconverter.com/

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, 6:40 am Tom Browder,  wrote:

> My current bank (US, Hancock Whitney) unfortunately does not provide
> account data in a digital format other than monthly PDF statements for
> personal accounts. I know third-party programs, such as YNAB (ynab.com),
> can get access my bank while I can't, but I don't want the baggage that
> comes with it.
>
> Does anyone know of a third-party entity I could use just to get access to
> the raw data for my personal accounts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Tom
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 09:32:03 -0500
From: Tom Browder 
To: Christopher Lam 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Third party OFX/CVS providers
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 09:09 Christopher Lam 
wrote:

> You may try this service which is free for personal use. (Not mine)
>
> https://bankstatementconverter.com/
>

Thanks, Christopher, I?ll give it a shot.

-Tom


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 08:47:14 -0700
From: Stan Brown 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Request for two new features in GnuCash
Message-ID: <95206b08-a037-d3ee-ed88-21fac56d1...@fastmail.fm>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8



On 2022-08-07 00:44, flywire wrote:
> More cat skinning:
> 
>> * the ability to have two separate (at least) GnuCash file systems:
> *
> 
> In Windows (or probably any GUI) double-click file in data folder and it
> will use file association to open the file (in GnuCash).
> 
> Alternatively, for each file: right-click file, create a shortcut, drag
> shortcut to desktop. Same as above from desktop.

>From desktop _or_ Start Menu, as a matter of fact. I choose the latter,
because I like to keep my desktop clean.

Buy there's another option, that I don't think I've seen posted yet.

The OP is presumably using those "multiple file systems" to keep books
on different entities. The user should give the files different names
even though storing them in different locations.

Then, if the user forgets to use the shortcuts you suggested, or just
doesn't like the shortcut idea, they can simply open GnuCash from the
regular program icon. GC will automatically open the last file the user
was working on. If that's the "wrong" one, click File and the last N
files worked on will appear in the menu; just select the appropriate one.

Unlike most Windows programs, GC doesn't show you the location of each
file, only its name. (At least that's true in the version I'm running.)
That's why it's important to give the data files different names even if
they're in different folders .

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 16

[Fred Bone]

On 06 August 2022 at 19:48, James Baxter said:

>  I am James Baxter email kangaroo52@yahoo.comas i found this next part and
>  i am not good with Linux and Gnucash.org. I am looking to know how to
>  place that code into this linux or where it is design to go.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 16

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

 I am James Baxter email kangaroo52@yahoo.comas i found this next part and i am 
not good with Linux and Gnucash.org. I am looking to know how to place that 
code into this linux or where it is design to go.


 I changed my mind. I now have an YNAB account and found that is has a> 
well-documented API. Not only that, I was able to link it successfully to
> my two banks and access my checking, savings, and credit card transactions!
> It might be possible to use the API to periodically download bank and
> credit card transactions into YNAB's standard JSON format, then convert
> that into the OFX format, and then upload the OFX into GnuCash.
> 
> I'm proceeding on the project with the hope of success. If anyone is
> interested in following it, the Raku (formerly Perl 6, see https://raku.org)
> module skeleton is on my Github repo now at
> https://github.com/tbrowder/API-YNAB.git. (Note I may soon change the title
> to something like YNAB2OFX or YNAB-OFX--suggestions are very welcome.)
> 
> The downside, assuming I have success, is that YNAB has a subscription fee
> of about $15 per month plus tax (cancel any time) or $100 plus tax a year,
> sums well worth it if I can get a periodic good OFX-to-GnuCash import.
I am still getting us to both Linux and Gnucash. also need to know if there is 
an icon (desk top) item so it will be easly to use.
thanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com


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  3. Re:  Third party OFX/CVS providers (Tom Browder)
  4. Re:  Third party OFX/CVS providers (Glenn Fowler)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2022 09:07:06 -0400
From: Robert Simmons 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Build From Source Near Impossible
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

First of all, Impish is already EOL. You will need to use a flavor of 22.04
LTS for the following. The documentation for how to build GnuCash is
confusing and not all in one place. The following begins with a fresh
install of Lubuntu 22.04 LTS. I use Vagrant so that everything is
deterministically built once I have finished figuring out the correct set
of steps. But, Vagrant is not a requirement; you don't have to use that.
The patch used below is the following. Put it in your /tmp directory before
starting.
https://pastebin.com/qUmxyyLq

sudo patch /etc/apt/sources.list /tmp/sources_list.patch
sudo apt-get build-dep gnucash
mkdir ~/opt
wget
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.11/gnucash-4.11.tar.gz
mkdir build-gnucash-4.11
tar -zxvf gnucash-4.11.tar.gz
cd build-gnucash-4.11/
cmake -DWITH_PYTHON=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/opt ../gnucash-4.11
make
make install


I hope this helps.

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 7:03 AM crusadeon09 via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I'm running Ubuntu, 21.10, Impish Indri.
>
> I downloaded the 4.11 tarball, gnucash-4.11.tar.bz2
>
> I followed these directions:
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Build_Tools
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
>
> I tried changing repositories. I ran "sudo apt update" multiple times. The
> dependencies for 4.11 simply wouldn't install.
>
> (base) chris@chris-B550-AORUS-ELITE:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep gnucash
> Reading package lists... Done
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libgtk-3-dev : Depends: gir1.2-gtk-3.0 (= 3.24.30-1ubuntu1) but
> 3.24.30-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
> Depends: libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-dev (>= 2.40.0) but it is not going to be
> installed or
> libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev (>= 2.40.0) but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: libgtk-3-0 (= 3.24.30-1ubuntu1) but 3.24.30-1ubuntu1.1 is to be
> installed
> libpython3.9-dev : Depends: libpython3.9-stdlib (= 3.9.7-2build1) but
> 3.9.7-2ubuntu0.1 is to be instal

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 14 desk top icon

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

As I don’t know what you call it, by in windows this is a desk top icon that 
you click on to open the program.  I am getting use to this. Still need to find 
some of my items I made up. But looking nice.

Thanks
James Baxter 
kangaro...@yahoo.com

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>   1.  Stumped on Mortgage Assistant - COMPLETE
>  (steve.schwa...@fastmail.com)
>   2.  Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
>  (GNC mailinglist)
>   3. Re:   Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
>  (Glenn Fowler)
>   4. Re:   Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
>  (Adrien Monteleone)
>   5. Re:   Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
>  (Glenn Fowler)
>   6. Re:   Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
>  (Adrien Monteleone)
>   7. Re:   Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
>  (Jack Lockard)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 14:19:02 -0500
> From: "" 
> To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Stumped on Mortgage Assistant - COMPLETE
> Message-ID: <0437eae6-d73f-1702-2f7e-9d3fbb745...@fastmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Thanks for everyone's help and ideas. I have taken the various advice 
> and now have my mortgages in GC. I won't claim to understand everything 
> I know, but after a couple months' iterations, I am expecting to be more 
> confident regardless my level of understanding.
> 
> Now on to getting my retirement plans in GC.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2022 00:47:05 +0200
> From: GNC mailinglist 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: [GNC] Backup files in another folder ? solution for Windows
> Message-ID: <875471b7354140d490ddd6c5dd291...@grupawp.pl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi,I'm new to GnuCash but, yep, I was disappointed by the multiple 
> backup and log files cluttering the directory where the main budget file is 
> stored. I've searched and found out nobody even made a workaround. So I 
> wrote a Powershell (Windows) script watching folder for new files and moving 
> them to another folder. Take a look at ?  github.com 
> https://github.com/Kaligula0/FolderWatcher ?.  The file has an explanation 
> but feel free to comment here or file a bug there.Best regards, Char
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 19:11:45 -0400
> From: Glenn Fowler 
> To: GNC mailinglist 
> Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
> Subject: Re: [GNC]  Backup files in another folder ? solution for
>Windows
> Message-ID:
>
> 
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Thank you for sharing.
> I do my backups with PS as well but just do a once daily run and check the
> file hash for changes. If it's changed then copy.
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 6:47 PM GNC mailinglist  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,I'm new to GnuCash but, yep, I was disappointed by the multiple
>> backup and log files cluttering the directory where the main budget file is
>> stored. I've searched and found out nobody even made a workaround. So I
>> wrote a Powershell (Windows) script watching folder for new files and
>> moving them to another folder. Take a look at ?  github.com
>> https://github.com/Kaligula0/FolderWatcher  .  The file has an
>> explanation but feel free to comment here or file a bug there.Best
>> regards, Char
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2022 08:37:08 -0500
> From: Adrien Monteleone 
> To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC]  Backup files in another folder ? solution for
>Windows
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> An alternative is to use the SQLite backend. There is no file 
> cluttering, and the added bonus of instant saves rather than periodic. 
> I'm not sure how easy that is to set up on Windows, howe

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 9

[davidcousens49]

James,

>From your earlier posts you are using Linux Mint. I didn't connect with your
post in another thread before. 

If you have successfully installed GnuCash in Linux Mint it will appear in the
desktop menu which is activated by clicking on or hovering over an icon which
looks like LM in a circle in the bottom left hand corner of your screen. That
should bring up the menu. There are three columns in the panel. If you hover
over the icons in the LH column you will see a short description of the icon
function shown at the bottom of the menu panel towards the right. the icons in
this column are usually related to system configuration and software
installation.
The second column are categories/groupings of the installed  applications and
the third column shows the applications which are available in a category when
it is selected in the second column. 
r
GnuCash is normally installed in the Office category so if you click on the
Office icon, it should appear in the thirid column from which you can run it by
clicking on the Gnucash icon. 

The top icon in the second column of the menu lists all applications in
alphabetical order in the third column. If it has somehow been installed under
another menu category/group you should find it in that list. If you can't find
it the All Applications list, then it is likely you have not managed to install
it correctly. 

You can drag icons from the menu to a panel in the Taskbar just to the right of
the LM icon for quick startup of commonly used applications.

GnuCash should open the last data file you had open by default if you had saved
the data or it had been autosaved ( there is a User preference for doing that at
specified intervals (see Edit=>Preferences in the Gnucash menu). If a popup
comes up telling you it is locked, that means you exited the program without
closing the file. Use the Open Anyway button.

You can find online tutorials for Linux Mint and the Cinnamon desktop using a
Google search and there is also a Linux Mint forum you can join for more
difficult problems

David Cousens


On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 08:45 -0400, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:
> This is James Baxter, email kangaro...@yahoo.com
> Every time I down load the Gnucash. I lose it. Is there an icon or a dest top
> to click on.
> From what I see of the program. I am more interested in getting it going.
> 
> If working with ? I can click on the dest top item.
> Still getting use to this
> James Baxter
> kangaro...@yahoo.com
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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> >   2.  Gnucash (James Baxter)
> >   3. Re:  MacOS - could not complete critical test of libdbi (David H)
> >   4. Re:  Gnucash (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
> >   5. Re:  Gnucash (David Carlson)
> >   6. Re:  Gnucash (James Baxter)
> >   7. Re:  Gnucash (David Carlson)
> >   8. Re:  Gnucash (Adrien Monteleone)
> >   9. Re:  Gnucash (Mahon Finbar)
> >  10. Re:  Stumped on Mortgage Asst - Screenshots
> >  (steve.schwa...@fastmail.com)
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 09:07:19 -0700
> > From: john 
> > To: km22 
> > Cc: Mailing List Gnucash 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] MacOS - could not complete critical test of libdbi
> > Message-ID: <45d305ee-7f4c-4b64-a869-39510555c...@ceridwen.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > 
> > There may be some useful error messages in the trace file--see 
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile. If you're also on macOS and using
> > version 11 or later console output is available again after many years of
> > being sent to /dev/null. Open /Applications/Utilities/Console, select your
> > computer from the sidebar, click start streaming in the middle of the
> > window, and run your GnuCash or DBBrowser session. When done return to
> > Console, click the pause button, and use the search bar for terms like
> > gnucash and sqlite.
> > 
> > I've been encountering the DBI error intermittently in the last year or so
> > too. I can't make it happen consistently enough to debug it, and it has
> > never stopped me from being able to open a Sqlite3 file.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> > 
> > 
> > > On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:47 AM, km22  wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 9

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

This is James Baxter, email kangaro...@yahoo.com
Every time I down load the Gnucash. I lose it. Is there an icon or a dest top 
to click on.
>From what I see of the program. I am more interested in getting it going.

If working with ? I can click on the dest top item.
Still getting use to this
James Baxter
kangaro...@yahoo.com

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>   2.  Gnucash (James Baxter)
>   3. Re:  MacOS - could not complete critical test of libdbi (David H)
>   4. Re:  Gnucash (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
>   5. Re:  Gnucash (David Carlson)
>   6. Re:  Gnucash (James Baxter)
>   7. Re:  Gnucash (David Carlson)
>   8. Re:  Gnucash (Adrien Monteleone)
>   9. Re:  Gnucash (Mahon Finbar)
>  10. Re:  Stumped on Mortgage Asst - Screenshots
>  (steve.schwa...@fastmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 09:07:19 -0700
> From: john 
> To: km22 
> Cc: Mailing List Gnucash 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] MacOS - could not complete critical test of libdbi
> Message-ID: <45d305ee-7f4c-4b64-a869-39510555c...@ceridwen.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> 
> There may be some useful error messages in the trace file--see 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile. If you're also on macOS and using 
> version 11 or later console output is available again after many years of 
> being sent to /dev/null. Open /Applications/Utilities/Console, select your 
> computer from the sidebar, click start streaming in the middle of the window, 
> and run your GnuCash or DBBrowser session. When done return to Console, click 
> the pause button, and use the search bar for terms like gnucash and sqlite.
> 
> I've been encountering the DBI error intermittently in the last year or so 
> too. I can't make it happen consistently enough to debug it, and it has never 
> stopped me from being able to open a Sqlite3 file.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:47 AM, km22  wrote:
>> 
>> I have downloaded DB Browser for Sqlite and have been trying different 
>> combinations of opening the file and remounting the drive and/or rebooting 
>> the system.  As best as I can tell, after I open and close the file in 
>> Gnucash once, I cannot then re-open it with Gnucash nor DBBrowser.  It seems 
>> the first time I open the file in Gnucash causes there to be a lock.  I need 
>> to reboot the machine to open it again.  I?ll experiment more but any ideas 
>> are welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 23:15, km22  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I am a new user of MacOS having recently bought a MacBook Air (after many 
>>> years of being a Gnucash user on Windows and Linux).
>>> 
>>> I was able to open my existing GnuCash file and add some transactions.  But 
>>> after closing GnuCash and trying to re-open the file I get the following 
>>> error:
>>> 
>>> GnuCash could not complete a critical test for the presence of a bug in the 
>>> "libdbi" library. This may be caused by a permissions misconfiguration of 
>>> your SQL database. Please see 
>>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645216 
>>>  for more information.
>>> 
>>> This looks like a very old bug that was resolved long ago.  I see comment 
>>> #19 suggests to copy the file but that did not work for me.
>>> 
>>> Any other advice I should consider?
>>> 
>>> My system is: 
>>> MacOS Monterey version 12.5.
>>> GnuCash Version: 4.11, Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 15:26:23 -0400
> From: James Baxter 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Gnucash
> Message-ID: <487faf39-5bc9-4958-a176-493ecc7e1...@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> 
> This is James Baxter, email kangaro...@yahoo.com
> 
> To let you all know, I think I am done with the program. I am looking at a 
> scr

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1

[Adrien Monteleone]

James, the Cinnamon desktop is the default desktop for Linux Mint.

Unlike Windows (and MacOS) with Linux, you have a choice of which 
Desktop you want to use.


Mint offers 3 main options out of the box:

1. Cinnamon (the main option if you didn't intentionally choose #2 or #3)

2. MATE (looks like Cinnamon for the most part, but is based on older 
software)


3. XFCE (more of a 'Mac-like' layout)

So if you simply downloaded and installed 'Linux Mint' then you most 
likely have the Cinnamon Desktop. It isn't necessarily something you 
needed to install separately. It controls the layout and window 
functioning of your computer.


Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - Please follow the following 'best practices' from the GnuCash 
Wiki concerning this mailing list:


https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists#Netiquette

1. When using Digest Mode (which it appears you are) please change the 
subject line to match your topic for that post/thread.


2. When replying to any message, especially digest messages, please 
first highlight the portion you are replying to, *then* use the 
reply-all or reply-list buttons. That way, *only* the relevant portion 
gets quoted, otherwise it is difficult for anyone else to see what you 
are replying to specifically.


On 8/1/22 6:43 PM, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:

I did not down load cinnamon desktop. As I have heard of it. Don’t know what it 
does.
Thanks for the items you send. Looking to learn more about linux and Gnucash as 
well.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 233, Issue 1

[James Baxter via gnucash-user]

I am James Baxter, email kangaro...@yahoo.com. 
I did not down load cinnamon desktop. As I have heard of it. Don’t know what it 
does.
Thanks for the items you send. Looking to learn more about linux and Gnucash as 
well.

Thanks
James

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>   1. Re:  Find (Stan Brown)
>   2. Re:  computer with Linux (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
>   3. Re:  computer with Linux (Adrien Monteleone)
>   4. Re:  Symbolic links (MacOSX) (Peter S. Shenkin)
>   5. Re:  computer with Linux (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
>   6. Re:  Find (Alan Magnus)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 13:36:10 -0700
> From: Stan Brown 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Find
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
>>> On 7/31/22 7:51 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
>>> If you are anywhere in the account tree on the Accounts tab and just
>>> start typing, it will take you to the matching account.
> 
>> On 2022-07-31 12:19, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> That only works for me if that part of the tree is already expanded. I
>> tested this myself before sending my initial reply because it was my
>> first thought to try.
> 
> Thanks for the information. My accounts list is fully expanded, so I
> didn't realize that made a difference.
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 08:44:35 +1000
> From: davidcousen...@gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] computer with Linux
> Message-ID: <2f304e08f30b6b13bca2393be59a0a56bd94a58e.ca...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> James,
> 
> I presume you downloaded Linux Mint 20.3. Did you choose the Cinnamon desktop 
> or
> one of the pther options? 
> 
> There are several options on Linux Mint to get GnuCash installed. The version
> supplied by the Software Manager is 2.2.9 which is well out of date with the
> current version 4.11. If you haven't found it yet, the Software Manager is
> started from the Menu icon in the lower LH corner of the desktop. It has an 
> icon
> which is a lime green circle filed with an array of dots in a rounded square
> icon. Typing GnuCash in the Search bar will bring up the instalation for both
> the version in the repository and the Flathub version. This is also the 
> version
> of GNuCash installed when you use the "sudo apt install gnucash" terminal
> command. If you do use the terminal command it is usualy a good idea to run
> "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade" as a matter of course. This will 
> ensure
> the  apt cache is up to date on your computer before you do the install.
> 
> There is also an option to install a Flathub version of GNuCash in the 
> software
> manager and that will install the current version 4.11. Flathub is a sandbox
> system which sometimes requires appropriate permissions to access the system
> resource but should run without any problem. If you do have problems come back
> to the mailing list. AFAIK the Flathub version is the same as the download of
> the Flathub version from the GnuCashsite.
> 
> 
> 
> The final option is to build GnuCash from the source code if you are familiar
> with building software on computers and like to stay up with the latest 
> version
> at all times. There are instructions on the Gnucash wiki 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
> 
> 
> Davis Cousens
>> On Sun, 2022-07-31 at 18:27 +, James Baxter via gnucash-user wrote:
>> I have a 15 year old laptop computer. it has Linux Mint. i just down load it
>> about 3 weeks ago.I am looking to down load Gnucash, as i am not able to. I
>> have been through all the items to do with Gnucash, as i don't see a think on
>> the type of computers.
>> thanks
>> 
>> My Name is James Baxter. my email address is kangaro...@yahoo.com
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 70

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm pretty certain the Help or the Guide has instructions on starting a 
fresh book with the same set of accounts.


Customers/Vendors/Employees however, I'm not sure about. I don't think 
there is a way to export/import them in any case.


Regards,
Adrien

On 6/29/22 7:00 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:

Resending to proper group

I set up GnuCash as best possible by extracting what I could from my crashed 
Quicken, and many Excel spreadsheets. And 6 months of work.
I got all the info in, but not working properly.
I want to start fresh, almost.
I have created clean CSV files for the AR and AP; and transaction files to fill 
in the bank ledgers.
What I need is to clean GnuCash of everything Except the account tree, vendor 
and customer database.
(Maybe I missed something, but the exported version of vendor and customer data 
has only name and ID number.)

Any ideas on how to do this, or how to not need to do this are appreciated.

Thanks,
Eric


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 73

[Richard Spinney]

Hi Kalpesh,

So I found a solution which I detail here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2022-June/101721.html

Basically, it was all to do with the fact that I was using a Flatpak
version of Gnucash (on Linux) - so yes there technically are two versions
of Perl, but the one used by Gnucash is the one bundled into the Flatpak
app sandbox (i.e. only Gnucash uses it).

The problems were then that:

1. The version of Perl on my computer (not in the Flatpak) was working with
the Quotes feature for AU stocks straight out of the box - the packaged
version didn't.
2. How to update the packaged version wasn't immediately obvious

However, I found out how -to update it, though it didn't update perfectly -
the bundled Perl version still can't get info from the ASX, but it now can
from Yahoo (JSON). So ultimately it now does work.

Cheers,

Richard.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 1:23 AM Kalpesh Patel  wrote:

> Richard, can you do some digging around to see if you have multiple version
> of Perl or not. Assuming you are NOT on a Windows OS (will work ok within
> WSL service in Windows - ignore if you do not know what that is), execute
> following command in a shell prompt:
>
>
> find / -name perl -type f -executable -print
>
>
> When above command finishes, it will have returned full path to all Perl
> that are available on that system. The number of lines returned back is
> number of locations where Perl is installed on that system. If it returns
> back only one line than you only have one Perl installed on that system --
> that is good. If it is more than one then now you need to decide whether up
> to upgrade the Finance::Quote on all of them or you have to find where it
> is
> not working correctly, which will be more complex undertaking. You can
> install/upgrade Finance::Quote in all Perl as follows:
>
> Take first full line from the above command and append following to it:
> -MCPAN -e 'install Finance::Quote'
>
> For example, when I run the 'find" command, my output looks like this (one
> line returned which means I have only one Perl installed on my system):
>
>
> root@my-desktop:~# find / -name perl -type f -executable -print
> /usr/bin/perl
> root@my-desktop:~#
>
>
> Now I take the first entry (/usr/bin/perl) and append second part (-MCPAN
> -e
> 'install Finance::Quote') to get following full command to run in a shell:
>
>
> /usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install Finance::Quote'
>
>
> If you are running it for first time then it may ask few question for
> initial configuration - feel free to accept default answers for all
> questions as they are sane enough to work properly. Now you can do same
> thing for the next entry until all different entries has the module
> installed. I hope that it doesn't have more than two or three printed
> entries as that would be the norm on the extreme case.
>
> Now BIG DISCLAIMER: this will install or upgrade Finance::Quote module for
> all the different locations where Perl is installed. Alternative is for you
> to pick and choose in which Perl location to install but that seems to be
> more vexing question which is probably out of scope of GNC needs. Make sure
> you take backup of the system as if something else get broken then you can
> recover back by restoring back from backup should it be necessary.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:40:45 +1000
> From: Richard Spinney 
> To: Geoff 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] ASX Online quotes problem
> Message-ID:
>  e9bdnpy1+u+-fh7zs4v9...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> As a note, it might be relevant that I am using a Flatpak distribution of
> Gnucash, possibly explaining the "two versions" situation. Running the
> Flatpak from the command line confirms that it is detecting Finance::Quotes
> v1.49 even though the command line version I am using is v1.51.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 6:43 PM Geoff  wrote:
>
> > Hi Richard
> >
> > Yes, that is confusing.  It is possible that this discrepancy in
> > behaviour may be due to you having two instances of Perl installed -
> > the later one is seen by your command line scripts and the earlier
> > (out of
> > date) one is seen by your GnuCash GUI.  I make this suggestion as I
> > recall seeing other GnuCash problems being reported due to this.  I am
> > mainly a Windows user so I can't really help you to trouble shoot.
> >
> > Anyway, to upgrade, you can try the "gnc-fq-update" Perl script, which
> > should get the latest version (1.51) from CPAN:
> > https://metacpan.org/pod/Finance::Quote
> >
> > Finally, I have attached a screenshot of my setup to retrieve prices
> > for ASX securities.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Geoff
> > =
> >
> > On 30/06/2022 6:26 pm, Richard Spinney wrote:
> > > Hi Geoff,
> > >
> > > Thanks for this.
> > >
> > > I am little bit confused though, the command line perl scripts I am
> > > using with the ASX as a

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 73

[Kalpesh Patel]

Richard, can you do some digging around to see if you have multiple version
of Perl or not. Assuming you are NOT on a Windows OS (will work ok within
WSL service in Windows - ignore if you do not know what that is), execute
following command in a shell prompt:


find / -name perl -type f -executable -print


When above command finishes, it will have returned full path to all Perl
that are available on that system. The number of lines returned back is
number of locations where Perl is installed on that system. If it returns
back only one line than you only have one Perl installed on that system --
that is good. If it is more than one then now you need to decide whether up
to upgrade the Finance::Quote on all of them or you have to find where it is
not working correctly, which will be more complex undertaking. You can
install/upgrade Finance::Quote in all Perl as follows: 

Take first full line from the above command and append following to it:
-MCPAN -e 'install Finance::Quote'

For example, when I run the 'find" command, my output looks like this (one
line returned which means I have only one Perl installed on my system):


root@my-desktop:~# find / -name perl -type f -executable -print
/usr/bin/perl
root@my-desktop:~#


Now I take the first entry (/usr/bin/perl) and append second part (-MCPAN -e
'install Finance::Quote') to get following full command to run in a shell:


/usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install Finance::Quote'


If you are running it for first time then it may ask few question for
initial configuration - feel free to accept default answers for all
questions as they are sane enough to work properly. Now you can do same
thing for the next entry until all different entries has the module
installed. I hope that it doesn't have more than two or three printed
entries as that would be the norm on the extreme case.

Now BIG DISCLAIMER: this will install or upgrade Finance::Quote module for
all the different locations where Perl is installed. Alternative is for you
to pick and choose in which Perl location to install but that seems to be
more vexing question which is probably out of scope of GNC needs. Make sure
you take backup of the system as if something else get broken then you can
recover back by restoring back from backup should it be necessary.

Hope this helps.


--

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:40:45 +1000
From: Richard Spinney 
To: Geoff 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] ASX Online quotes problem
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

As a note, it might be relevant that I am using a Flatpak distribution of
Gnucash, possibly explaining the "two versions" situation. Running the
Flatpak from the command line confirms that it is detecting Finance::Quotes
v1.49 even though the command line version I am using is v1.51.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 6:43 PM Geoff  wrote:

> Hi Richard
>
> Yes, that is confusing.  It is possible that this discrepancy in 
> behaviour may be due to you having two instances of Perl installed - 
> the later one is seen by your command line scripts and the earlier 
> (out of
> date) one is seen by your GnuCash GUI.  I make this suggestion as I 
> recall seeing other GnuCash problems being reported due to this.  I am 
> mainly a Windows user so I can't really help you to trouble shoot.
>
> Anyway, to upgrade, you can try the "gnc-fq-update" Perl script, which 
> should get the latest version (1.51) from CPAN:
> https://metacpan.org/pod/Finance::Quote
>
> Finally, I have attached a screenshot of my setup to retrieve prices 
> for ASX securities.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff
> =
>
> On 30/06/2022 6:26 pm, Richard Spinney wrote:
> > Hi Geoff,
> >
> > Thanks for this.
> >
> > I am little bit confused though, the command line perl scripts I am 
> > using with the ASX as a source work fine. But moreover, they work 
> > when I use *different* sources (e.g. yahoo as JSON), but then they 
> > don't work in gnucash itself - I.e. the issue is there when I 
> > specifically avoid the ASX as a source. Or have I missed something?
> >
> > If I do have to update that module do you have any links or similar 
> > you could point me to?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > R.
> >
> > On Thu, 30 June 2022, 18:21 Geoff,  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Richard
> >
> > The ASX did a major web upgrade back in 2020 that broke Version 
> > 1.49
> of
> > Finance::Quote.  If you want to use the ASX as your data source for
> > Australian listed securities then you will need to upgrade that Perl
> > module.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Geoff
> > =
> >
> > On 30/06/2022 5:44 pm, Richard Spinney wrote:
> >  > Hi All,
> >  >
> >  > I'm having some trouble fetching online quotes for Australian
> > stocks in
> >  > Gnucash.
> >  >
> >  > My versions are:
> >  >
> >  > Gnucash Version: 4.11
> >  > Build ID: Flathub 4.11
> >  > Fin

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 70

[john]

Please do not reply to a message when you have a new topic: Start from with a 
new one.

When you do reply to a message in a digest please trim out all but the one 
message you're replying to and change the subject of your reply to the subject 
of that one message. It's a major pain to figure out what you're talking about 
otherwise. I seldom bother.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jun 29, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Eric Hammond  wrote:
> 
> Resending to proper group
> 
> I set up GnuCash as best possible by extracting what I could from my crashed 
> Quicken, and many Excel spreadsheets. And 6 months of work.
> I got all the info in, but not working properly.
> I want to start fresh, almost.
> I have created clean CSV files for the AR and AP; and transaction files to 
> fill in the bank ledgers.
> What I need is to clean GnuCash of everything Except the account tree, vendor 
> and customer database.
> (Maybe I missed something, but the exported version of vendor and customer 
> data has only name and ID number.)
> 
> Any ideas on how to do this, or how to not need to do this are appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
> 
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 70

[Eric Hammond]

Resending to proper group

I set up GnuCash as best possible by extracting what I could from my crashed 
Quicken, and many Excel spreadsheets. And 6 months of work.
I got all the info in, but not working properly.
I want to start fresh, almost.
I have created clean CSV files for the AR and AP; and transaction files to fill 
in the bank ledgers.
What I need is to clean GnuCash of everything Except the account tree, vendor 
and customer database.
(Maybe I missed something, but the exported version of vendor and customer data 
has only name and ID number.)

Any ideas on how to do this, or how to not need to do this are appreciated.

Thanks,
Eric

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   2. Re:  Saved Reports (David Carlson)
   3. Re:  Split ownership (Fred Tydeman)
   4. Re:  Split ownership (Adrien Monteleone)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 20:54:20 -0400
From: "Stephen C. Camidge" 
To: "David H" 
Cc: "Gnucash Users" 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Saved Reports
Message-ID: <35680993-2d87-4910-9673-1b00cadfa...@www.fastmail.com>
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Interesting. That location did work.

Further, some data went to /home/steve/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/ 


But /home/steve/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ 
 is more complete.

Thank you very much for your help.
Steve




On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, at 8:43 PM, David H wrote:
> Just rebooted into Mint Linux and mine are in 
> $HOME/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash - did you drill down far 
> enough ?  I seem to recall I would have manually copied my saved-reports-2.8 
> file into that directory as Flatpak obviously doesn't know about them 
> initially...
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 10:34, Stephen C. Camidge  wrote:
>> __
>> Thank you, but I do not have any entries here:
>> $HOME/.local/share/flatpak/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/
>> 
>> and the other is where I was looking, but the saved reports was not 
>> updated for 4.11 $HOME/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, at 3:34 PM, David H wrote:
>>> The wiki is your friend - https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak
>>> 
>>> Cheers David H.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 04:05, Stephen C. Camidge  
>>> wrote:
 When using gnucash 4.10 installed from Linux Manjaro repository, my saved 
 reports are stored here:
  /home/steve/.local/share/gnucash/
 
 I installed gnucash 4.11 from flathub and saved a newly created report.  I 
 cannot find where the report is stored on my hard drive. My plan was to 
 move my old settings over to the flatbed version so I could properly test 
 the latest version.
 
 How do I find where 4.11 is storing the preferences?
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Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 06:48:50 -0500
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To: "Stephen C. Camidge" 
Cc: David H , Gnucash Users

Subject: Re: [GNC] Saved Reports
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For certain cases the migration to 4.11 has " lost " some information, this is 
a known issue .  Check other messages for more information.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 7:55 PM Stephen C. Camidge 
wrote:

> Interesting. That location did work.
>
> Further, some data went to 
> /home/steve/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/ < 
> http://org.gnucash.gnucash/data/>
>
> But /home/steve/.var/app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/data/gnucash/ < 
> http://org.gnucash.gnucash/data/gnucash/> is more complete.
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, at 8:43 PM, David H wrote:
> > Just rebooted into Mint Linux and mine are in
> $HOME/.var/app/org

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 67

[Eric Hammond]

Re:  3. Credit note posting to an expense account 
Hi David,

Here is how I solved it for myself,
In standard accounting credit notes (coupons...) post to a Liability account, 
since you now owe someone something.
I have sometimes tutored high school student in math, and may get pre-paid for 
multiple sessions at times.
This is a little messy, and works best for multiple sessions. It does keep the 
"paper trail" proper .
To "fund" the prepay I create an invoice: debit Assets:Recievables and credit 
Liabilities:Prepaid Invoices. 
When the client pays: debit Assets:Cash (Bank...) and credit 
Assets:Recievables.
When the student is done with a session I create an invoice for that session:  
debit Assets:Recievables and credit  Revenue:Tutoring
then:  debit Liabilities:Prepaid Invoices, credit Assets:Receivables. 

I hope this helps,
Eric 

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   3.  Credit note posting to an expense account
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   4. Re:  Credit note posting to an expense account (Gyle McCollam)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 17:33:03 +
From: Gyle McCollam 
To: Kalpesh Patel , "gnucash-user@gnucash.org"

Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release
Message-ID:



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As noted there are changes.  Can anyone tell me where the Online selections 
that used to be under Actions went.  I've looked through the menus and I can't 
find it.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of Kalpesh Patel 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:47 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

There are definite noticeable changes to menus on 4.11 of GNC - number of items 
in the menu list and where they are found in the list -- as well.



It is throwing me off from previous click through flows that were second in 
nature . I am observing these changes on Windows 10.



> 

> From: gnucash-user mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail@gnucash.org> > on behalf of John 
Ralls mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us> >

> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 5:39 PM

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> Subject: [GNC] GnuCash 4.11 Release

>

> The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.11, the twelfth 
> release
in the stable 4.x series

> Between 4.10 and 4.11, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

>

>Bug 797163 - qof_book_get_option segfaults when retrieving a 
> non-leaf
frame

>Bug 798053 - Accounts renumeration (renumbering)

>Bug 798471 - Can't see or select Income or Expense accounts in 
> Income
Tax Information GUI

>Bug 798483 - GnuCash Crashing With SIGSEGV During QFX Import
Transaction Matching

>Bug 798491 - MT940 of day 28.02.2022 ends in transactiondate 
> 01.01.1970

>Bug 798493 - Invoice Report Quantity & Unit Price fields have 
> limited
decimal precision on printed invoices

>Bug 798496 - gncEntry Quantity and Discount are misusing commodity 
> scu

>Bug 798499 - Expense Chart data tables include extra columns of 
> data

>Bug 798500 - FTBFS (tests failure) on armhf

>Bug 798501 - Balance wrong date end of period

>Bug 798531 - Selecting "Print" from the file menu on a report 
> crashes
gnucash

>Bug 798533 - Crash when importing quicken @ currency

>Bug 798535 - Crash when increasing the number of periods in a 
> budget

>Bug 798547 - Calculated Due Date is short 1 day when posting on day 
> of
fall change from Daylight Time to Standard Time.

>

> The following fixes and improvements were not associated with bug reports:

>

>Partially fix Bug 771095 by inserting a help button in the
Since-Last-Run dialog.

>Lock down GITHUB_TOKEN permissions on workflows.

>[g_option_context_get_help() returns a char* whic

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 55

[Maf. King]

Off the top of my head, I don't recall exactly.

I _think_, aside from bad debt,  I handled vendor discounts and credit notes 
in this way, before GC became more elegant in that way.

Hth,
Maf.


On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:21:31 BST Eric Hammond wrote:
> Thank you David, Derek and Maf,
> 
> That works good enough, since I don't expect to need it much.
> Maf, I am interested in what other situations this is needed.
> 
> There were no intended graphics (or?) attached. It may be my Outlook adding
> a background
> 
> Thanks again,
> Eric
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 5:13 PM
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>1.  Stock and Stock Prices (Gyle McCollam)
>2.  Thank you for your courtesy (Jim DeLaHunt)
>3.  Help (Eric Hammond)
>4. Re:  Thank you for your courtesy (Chris Graves)
>5. Re:  Help (Derek Atkins)
>6. Re:  Help (Maf. King)
>7. Re:  Help (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
>8. Re:  Help (Derek Atkins)
>9. Re:  Help (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:08:23 +
> From: Gyle McCollam 
> To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
> Subject: [GNC] Stock and Stock Prices
> Message-ID:
>   
 .com>
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> My statements for stocks show shares and prices per share to 5 decimal
> places.  In GnuCash "Tools/Price Database" it shows the per share price to
> 5 decimal places as well.  However, in the register it shows the shares and
> balance to 5 decimal places as well, but it only shows the price to 4
> decimal places.  I can't find how to change this anywhere.  I would like it
> to show the price in the register to the same 5 decimal places it has it
> recorded to in the price database.  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Gyle McCollam
> 
> Gyle McCollam
> 
> gmccol...@live.com   email
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:35:30 -0700
> From: Jim DeLaHunt 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: [GNC] Thank you for your courtesy
> Message-ID: <03a1e981-8eb3-caa4-60f0-a5c565564...@jdlh.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
> Liz, David T, Gyle, and D:
> (but really everyone contributes)
> 
> Thank you for your courtesy.? Liz, thank you for your work as list
> moderator, and specifically for stepping in when some recent language was
> not acceptable here. The others of you, thank you for apologising, rather
> than lashing out. The result is a more pleasant and more productive email
> list and community.
> 
> I am subscribed to users' mailing lists for other projects, where this sort
> of courtesy is often lacking. Nasty comments are more common. Some
> participants are repeatedly nasty. When someone points out that they are
> violating the community's code of conduct, they do not apologise, and they
> lash out with more nastiness. It is awful.
> 
> And that is one of the reasons why I spend more effort participating here
> rather than there. Thank you.
> 
> Best regards,
>  ??? ?Jim DeLaHunt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:43:14 +
> From: Eric Hammond 
> To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
> Subject: [GNC] Help
> Message-ID:
>   
 .com>
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> I was not paid by a client, and have 'written it off', but how do I book it
> in GnuCash? Standard business practice is to post it in to an expense
> account such as 'Bad Debt' or 'Uncollectable'. I have created the account
> 'Expenses:Bad Debt' but GnuCash does not allow me to select it, apparently
> only accepting an asset account.
> 
> Thank you for the help,
> 
> Eric
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:15:09 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [GNC] Thank you for your courtesy
> Mes

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 55

[Eric Hammond]

Thank you David, Derek and Maf,

That works good enough, since I don't expect to need it much.
Maf, I am interested in what other situations this is needed.

There were no intended graphics (or?) attached. It may be my Outlook adding a 
background

Thanks again,
Eric

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   2.  Thank you for your courtesy (Jim DeLaHunt)
   3.  Help (Eric Hammond)
   4. Re:  Thank you for your courtesy (Chris Graves)
   5. Re:  Help (Derek Atkins)
   6. Re:  Help (Maf. King)
   7. Re:  Help (davidcousen...@gmail.com)
   8. Re:  Help (Derek Atkins)
   9. Re:  Help (davidcousen...@gmail.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:08:23 +
From: Gyle McCollam 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: [GNC] Stock and Stock Prices
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

My statements for stocks show shares and prices per share to 5 decimal places.  
In GnuCash "Tools/Price Database" it shows the per share price to 5 decimal 
places as well.  However, in the register it shows the shares and balance to 5 
decimal places as well, but it only shows the price to 4 decimal places.  I 
can't find how to change this anywhere.  I would like it to show the price in 
the register to the same 5 decimal places it has it recorded to in the price 
database.  Any help would be appreciated.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:35:30 -0700
From: Jim DeLaHunt 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Thank you for your courtesy
Message-ID: <03a1e981-8eb3-caa4-60f0-a5c565564...@jdlh.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Liz, David T, Gyle, and D:
(but really everyone contributes)

Thank you for your courtesy.? Liz, thank you for your work as list moderator, 
and specifically for stepping in when some recent language was not acceptable 
here. The others of you, thank you for apologising, rather than lashing out. 
The result is a more pleasant and more productive email list and community.

I am subscribed to users' mailing lists for other projects, where this sort of 
courtesy is often lacking. Nasty comments are more common. Some participants 
are repeatedly nasty. When someone points out that they are violating the 
community's code of conduct, they do not apologise, and they lash out with more 
nastiness. It is awful.

And that is one of the reasons why I spend more effort participating here 
rather than there. Thank you.

Best regards,
 ??? ?Jim DeLaHunt




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:43:14 +
From: Eric Hammond 
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" 
Subject: [GNC] Help
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


I was not paid by a client, and have 'written it off', but how do I book it in 
GnuCash?
Standard business practice is to post it in to an expense account such as 'Bad 
Debt' or 'Uncollectable'.
I have created the account 'Expenses:Bad Debt' but GnuCash does not allow me to 
select it, apparently only accepting an asset account.

Thank you for the help,

Eric


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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:15:09 -0700
From: Chris Graves 
To: Jim DeLaHunt 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Thank you for your courtesy
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

+1

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:

> Liz, David T, Gyle, and D:
> (but really everyone contributes)
>
> Thank you for your courtesy.  Liz, thank you for your work as list 
> moderator, and specifically for stepping in when some recent language 
> was not acceptable here. The others of you, thank you for apologising, 
> rather than lashing out. The result is a more pleasant and more 
> productive email list and community.
>
> I am subscri

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 31

[Kevin T via gnucash-user]

I haven't seen a singular reply to the question, so I am replying to the gnu 
cash list directly.
This is windows and the version is 4.1+ (3/26)
The bank provides data with debits in a different column than the credits.  The 
debits are always positive, the credits are always negative.
For Stan.  It is a).   It may be consistent, and appropriate.  But this 
consistently difficult to manage.  
A negative value in a credit column as provided by the bank is getting 
converted to a debit.   This makes sense.  But, that means that ALL entries are 
converted to a debit.  The positive entries in the debit column become 
'charges' and the negative entries in the credit column also become 'charges'.  
Unless I look at the CSV file to see which entries are negative, I have no way 
of knowing which entries are 'supposed' to be credits.
I could write a sed script to remove the '-' signs from the file, I could also 
just edit the csv by hand for this bank which we all know that is what we are 
trying to avoid, hand edits.  I am operating in the windows env and I haven't 
installed all the unix features, so the sed script wont work for me. Nor do I 
really want to install all the unix features. 
The correct solution is have the bank a)  stop using two columns and continue 
to use positive and negative numbers.  or b)  continue to use two columns and 
remove the negative numbers from all columns.  I am pretty sure that getting 
the bank to change behaviors is exceedingly unlikely.   But, I can ask you guys 
to add an option to remove negative values to the import flow.  Or, have the 
option to preprocess the csv file with a some script to achieve the desired 
results.  There are already a number of features to ease the import task.  This 
solution is a singular button with a singular line of code behind the button.  
OK maybe two lines of code, one to check if it is a number and another to 
change sign.
I tested with two options.a) removed the negative values with a text editor.  
This worked and the values showed up in the correct column in gnucash.b) during 
the import, i told the import tool to import both the credit and debit columns 
as 'withdrawal'.  No changes to the file itselft.  This also worked !  The 
entries showed up in the proper columns in gnucash.  Give the coders an attaboy 
for not imposing strict usage on the importer.
The b solution is the winner!  no edits needed.
The b solution is a bit counterintuitive.  Having a button to remove negatives, 
makes more sense.  It might also solve this issue a bit quicker to the next new 
user who runs into this.

Kevin 

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  2. Re:  questions on 4.1 (David Carlson)
  3. Re:  register description field width (Glenn Fowler)
  4. Re:  questions on 4.1 (Chris Good)
  5. Re:  questions on 4.1 (Geoff)
  6.  importing csv and negative numbers (Kevin T)
  7. Re:  importing csv and negative numbers (Stan Brown)
  8. Re:  importing csv and negative numbers (davidcousen...@gmail.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 11:20:54 +1000
From: "Chris Good" 
To: 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [GNC] questions on 4.1
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From: gnucash-user mailto:gmail@gnucash.org> 

=gmail@gnucash.org  > > on
behalf of Top Cat mailto:t...@fractalcat.io>
 > >
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 12:44 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
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Subject: [GNC] questions on 4.1

I have been using gnucash since 2.x with a MySQL database


I recently build a new machine and updated to 4.1, and have run into several
issues

1.      On the accounts page, I can no longer show the account numbers, or
sort by them
2.      On reconciliations, paired transactions (like transfers from one
subaccount to another) no longer clear "both sides" when one is checked - it
requires manually marking both sides separately.


Is this correct behavior? Are there settings I am missing? do I 

Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 230, Issue 18

[Chris Skudder]

   The simplest way is to just consider the purchase price to be $95,000,
   not $100,000.
   (If you really want to capture the seller credit, you "could" record
   the purchase price at $100k, and create another "split" in the
   transaction, $5,000 credit to a new account, for instance,
   "Income:credit for repairs.")
   Chris
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   To: [2]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 11:00:05 -0400
From: M [3]
To: [4]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Account for Seller Credit when purchasing a home
Message-ID:
[5]

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I am still learning double-entry accounting, and I need a little help.

I recently purchased a home, but the price was reduced during
negotiation and a seller credit was applied at closing.

Agreed Purchase Price: $100,000
Seller Credit for Repairs: $5,000
Actual Purchase Price: $95,000

When I add this asset, I am stumped.? When I increase the asset by
$100,000 and decrease other accounts for cash and loans of $95,000, that
all makes sense.? But how do I account for the $5,000?? I see it as an
unrealized gain... instant equity provided by the seller. But I need to
debit an account with this amount, so it shows an unrealized gain of
-$5,000.

Should I simply just increase the asset by $95,000 and not account for
the credit?

I know I am missing the big picture.? Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

Thanks to all,

Mike

References

   1. mailto:gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org
   2. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
   3. mailto:m_st...@hotmail.com
   4. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
   5. 
mailto:mw4pr04mb7460d540d47f5148454840c290...@mw4pr04mb7460.namprd04.prod.outlook.com
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 229, Issue 58

[Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user]

Ah. Yes, I'm afraid I'm still using GnuCash 3.8+; It's What's For Dinner 
(at least on Ubuntu! [Studio 20.04 LTS]). They don't ever seem to update 
their distributions until a major release comes along...and even then 
they're a few versions behind.


I tried Flatpak once but had some issues (not necessarily traceable to 
Flatpak) and ended up having to reinstall the Ubuntu Studio OS from 
scratch.





Message: 9
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 00:24:20 -0500
From: David Carlson 
To: Jean L 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Feature Request/Workaround Info: Preserve "Notes"
Field?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Eric,

The 'Append' button is a fairly recently added feature, probably around
release 4.6 or thereabouts. If you are still using an older version 
perhaps

you should update GnuCash.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 9:16 PM Jean L  wrote:


Again: the "append" check mark in the import dialog appends notes from
the OFX to the notes you put in instead of replacing them if 'u+c' is
selected.

*

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