Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Robert J. Hansen]

Charly Avital wrote:
> Thank you Robert.

I did builds for only a very brief period of time: once he got 1.4.7
packages built, I stopped.  He does a great job with MacGPG, and I've
got no desire to duplicate work that's already being done well.

Thanks, Benjamin, for all your work.  The Mac users really appreciate
it.  :)


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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

Charly Avital wrote the following on 9/2/09 9:14 AM:
> Robert J. Hansen wrote the following on 3/6/07 10:06 AM:
>> I've taken the liberty of packaging up 1.4.7 for OS X.  (I apologize
>> to Benjamin if I'm stepping on his toes here; by my recollection,
>> he's doing packages for 2.0.x, not 1.4.x, so I _should_ be safe.)

I apologize to the list, to Robert and to Benjamin. I just picked up an
old post, and reacted knee-jerk (emphasis on "jerk" -> yours truly).

I'll be back to 1.4.10RC1.

Sorry again.
Charly

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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

Robert J. Hansen wrote the following on 3/6/07 10:06 AM:
> I've taken the liberty of packaging up 1.4.7 for OS X.  (I apologize
> to Benjamin if I'm stepping on his toes here; by my recollection,
> he's doing packages for 2.0.x, not 1.4.x, so I _should_ be safe.)

I believe you are.
> 

Using the recent release of 1.4.9, I have just compiled from source
1.4.9 with IDEA for MacOSX 10.5.8.(straightforward in Terminal). I guess
that when I upgrade to 10.6 (a couple of weeks from now), I may be in
from some surprises, according to what I have read in this list.
So far, so good.

Thank you Robert.

Charly


$ gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.9
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later

This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA
Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Joseph Oreste Bruni]

It wouldn't make sense to try to package GPG using a .app bundle  
since GPG itself will most often be used from the command line. As  
such, you would need to update your PATH environment variable to  
include a deep reference to something like "/Applications/GnuPG/ 
Content/MacOS/gpg" instead of the normal location for user-installed  
tools (/usr/local). In addition, if you did run it by double-clicking  
what would that give you since there is no graphical user interface  
and using the tool is done via command-line options?

If you really need a GUI to use GPG, trying installing one of the  
many interfaces referenced from http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/. Those  
are packaged as .app bundles and make sense to run via the Finder.

-Joe

PS: I noticed this message thread was being cross-posted to both  
macgpg-users and gnupg-users. I'm not sure that's good etiquette, but  
I'm replying to both for continuity.



On Mar 7, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Ryan R. LaMothe wrote:

> It's not a matter of "why not do it yourself" but a matter of "why
> isn't it being done" kind of question.
>
> A graphical installer and uninstaller for the entire suite would be
> nice.  Maybe I will find time to work on it, maybe someone else can  
> too.
>
> It is the same kind of question I ask the Mono and MonoDevelop
> people, who not only did not write MonoDevelop using Windows Forms
> (they used GTK), but an installation of "MonoDevelop for OS X"
> requires a plethora of Fink/DarwinPorts Linux libs installed in order
> to even begin using the entire package.  But that is another story
> for another list.
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
>
>> Ryan R. LaMothe wrote:
>>> How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app
>>> bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix
>>> application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)?
>>
>> There's nothing stopping you doing it and making the result
>> available to
>> all.
>>
>> Ben
>>
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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Ryan R. LaMothe]

It's not a matter of "why not do it yourself" but a matter of "why  
isn't it being done" kind of question.

A graphical installer and uninstaller for the entire suite would be  
nice.  Maybe I will find time to work on it, maybe someone else can too.

It is the same kind of question I ask the Mono and MonoDevelop  
people, who not only did not write MonoDevelop using Windows Forms  
(they used GTK), but an installation of "MonoDevelop for OS X"  
requires a plethora of Fink/DarwinPorts Linux libs installed in order  
to even begin using the entire package.  But that is another story  
for another list.


On Mar 7, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:

> Ryan R. LaMothe wrote:
>> How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app
>> bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix
>> application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)?
>
> There's nothing stopping you doing it and making the result  
> available to
> all.
>
> Ben
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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Ryan R. LaMothe]

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Why isn't this application packaged like normal OS X apps in an  
application bundle?  Why the Unix(Linux) bundling and installing?



On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:

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>
>> I've packaged up 1.4.5 and 1.4.6 and was looking at getting 1.4.7  
>> done
>> asap, but you may have saved me the trouble! :)
>
> Thank you for being gracious.  :)
>
> I updated the packages (very slightly) to install into /usr/local,
> instead of /usr.  It seems to be a tradeoff--while I know a few OS X
> users who have (for reasons inscrutable to me) elected to remove /usr/
> local from their PATH, there are a fair number of OS X crypto apps
> hardwired to expect it in /usr/local.  Mulberry, GPGMail, etc.
>
> The original links still work; they point to non-IDEA-enabled
> builds.  For completeness' sake, the links are all listed here:
>
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC-IDEA.dmg
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386-IDEA.dmg
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg
>
> Signatures are available at:
>
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC-IDEA.dmg.asc
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg.asc
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386-IDEA.dmg.asc
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg.asc
>
> Warning: these packages still have not been extensively tested.
>
>
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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Ryan R. LaMothe]

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Thank you for your reply.  Although not all .app bundles are Cocoa  
apps, Eclipse is a good example.

How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app  
bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix  
application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)?

Thanks!

On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
>> Why isn't this application packaged like normal OS X apps in an  
>> application bundle?  Why the Unix(Linux) bundling and installing?
>
> Usually, these "normal" OS X apps are Cocoa apps.  If it has a  
> nifty-keen GUI on it, odds are good that it's a Cocoa app and is  
> thus packaged as a .app.  But otherwise, odds are good that it's a  
> regular UNIX utility and will be packaged like a regular UNIX utility.
>
> For instance, the Apple Developer Tools are packaged both  
> like .apps and like regular UNIX utilities.  XCode is a Cocoa apps,  
> and as such, it's packaged as a .app.  But Apple's C compiler is a  
> regular UNIX utility, and as such, it's packaged as /usr/bin/gcc.
>
>
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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Alexander Nouak]

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Hi,

Am 08.03.2007 um 20:53 schrieb Charly Avital:

> Please keep in mind that you need to have XCode 2.21 or the latest  
> Developer
> Tools with gcc 4.0.1 or later as well as the BSD Subsystem  
> installed. Check
> this by typing 'gcc -v' into the Terminal.
> 
>
> I have included Mr. Alexander Nouak in the distribution of this  
> answer,
> hoping he will be able to clarify this matter. I know Mr. Nouak  
> will get
> this message also via macgpg-users, and I apologize for this double  
> posting.

may I kindly confirm that I am the right person to be blamed for that  
and I am terribly sorry for having caused this confusion. I will  
correct that as soon as possible.

It is correct that you can compile gnupg on any Mac OS X >= 10.2 with  
its appropriate Developer Tools installed. To compile it on an Intel  
Mac or to receive Universal Binaries you will however need to use gcc  
4.0.1 or later which you may find with XCode 2.21 or in the Developer  
Tools for Mac OS X 10.4

HTH


Servus

Alexander
MacGPG Project Admin
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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

At 11:59 AM -0500 3/8/07, reynt0 wrote:
>I apologize if I am wasting the time of some busy
>and appreciated people, but I'd like to ask for
>clarification:

Not that busy, let's try to sort out this issue.

>
>The latest macgpg.sourceforge.net "HowTo", v4.16,
>says gcc 4.0.1 is needed.

You are right, that's what the HOWTO indicates:
-
This document describes how to build GnuPG on Mac OS X 10.2+.


Please keep in mind that you need to have XCode 2.21 or the latest Developer
Tools with gcc 4.0.1 or later as well as the BSD Subsystem installed. Check
this by typing 'gcc -v' into the Terminal.


I am not sure what happened here; maybe, and I wish to stress 'maybe' an
editing error when updating Gordon Worley's instructions.

The facts are as follows:
1. On this iMac running OS 10.3.9, I have:
Xcode 1.5, and gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1666)

As I informed in a previous e-mail, I have compiled GnuPG 1.4.7 on this
computer, without any problem.

[...]

I have included Mr. Alexander Nouak in the distribution of this answer,
hoping he will be able to clarify this matter. I know Mr. Nouak will get
this message also via macgpg-users, and I apologize for this double posting.


Charly



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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[David Shaw]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:59:40AM -0500, reynt0 wrote:
> I apologize if I am wasting the time of some busy
> and appreciated people, but I'd like to ask for
> clarification:
> 
> The latest macgpg.sourceforge.net "HowTo", v4.16,
> says gcc 4.0.1 is needed.  That gcc seems to be
> Apple-natively available only with OS 10.4, and not
> installable in 10.3.9 (with reliable result) from
> currently available XCode; gcc 3.3 seems to be
> the highest in XCode for 10.3.  So..., what gcc do
> you have and how did you get it?  (If the answer is
> simple, and I'm stupid, that makes me happiest
> because it is least trouble for me to fix.)

gcc 4.0.1 is not needed to build GnuPG.  You should be able to build
it with whatever version is on your Panther box.

If it doesn't work, tell me, and I'll make it work.

David

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[reynt0]

I apologize if I am wasting the time of some busy
and appreciated people, but I'd like to ask for
clarification:

The latest macgpg.sourceforge.net "HowTo", v4.16,
says gcc 4.0.1 is needed.  That gcc seems to be
Apple-natively available only with OS 10.4, and not
installable in 10.3.9 (with reliable result) from
currently available XCode; gcc 3.3 seems to be
the highest in XCode for 10.3.  So..., what gcc do
you have and how did you get it?  (If the answer is
simple, and I'm stupid, that makes me happiest
because it is least trouble for me to fix.)

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Charly Avital wrote:
 . . .
> On an iMac CPU Type: PowerPC 750  (22.14) running MacOS 10.3.9 (code named
> "Pahther"), compiling from source with idea.c copied to 'Cipher':
 . . .
> Therefore, GnuPG 1.4.7 builds correctly under Mac OS 10.3.9.
> I misunderstood the indications in MacGPG's web site.
 . . .

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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> I don't see any real difference between the two, really.  If it's not
> legal to distribute the single binary with IDEA, then it's not legal to
> distribute the module.  And going the module way, you wind up getting a
> large number of support requests saying "I downloaded the module, but I
> still can't read IDEA traffic", since people tend not to be all that
> familiar with editing gpg.conf.

Put simply, the module route ensures that any patent / copyright issues
are firmly the users "problem".  As I understand it, the licence is not
 compatible with the GPL and therefore should not be distributed with GnuPG.

Ben

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

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At 6:21 PM -0500 3/7/07, David Shaw wrote:
[...]
>Yes indeed.
>
>Let me reiterate: as far as I'm concerned, if the current GPG doesn't
>build on a particular version of OSX, that's a bug.  And I'll do my
>best to fix GPG so it does build.
>
>David

On an iMac CPU Type: PowerPC 750  (22.14) running MacOS 10.3.9 (code named
"Pahther"), compiling from source with idea.c copied to 'Cipher':
- 
./configure: [...] Version info:   gnupg 1.4.7
Configured for: Darwin (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0).
All 27 tests passed.

% gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.7
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA
Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2
- ---

Therefore, GnuPG 1.4.7 builds correctly under Mac OS 10.3.9.
I misunderstood the indications in MacGPG's web site.

Thank you David for your feedback.

Charly






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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Robert J. Hansen]

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> IDEA is generally best implemented as a module.  That way you don't  
> need
> to worry about any patent / copyright issues.

I don't see any real difference between the two, really.  If it's not  
legal to distribute the single binary with IDEA, then it's not legal  
to distribute the module.  And going the module way, you wind up  
getting a large number of support requests saying "I downloaded the  
module, but I still can't read IDEA traffic", since people tend not  
to be all that familiar with editing gpg.conf.

I should also point out, while I'm at it, that I don't recommend  
using IDEA.  But the old RSA/IDEA legacy is unlikely to go away  
anytime soon, not as long as there's a ton of poorly-written  
anonymity software that depends on PGP 2.6.




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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> The original links still work; they point to non-IDEA-enabled builds. 
> For completeness' sake, the links are all listed here:

IDEA is generally best implemented as a module.  That way you don't need
to worry about any patent / copyright issues.

GnuPG 1.4.7 universal binaries from the macgpg team are now available on
the website - see http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/

Ben

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
>> Warning: these packages still have not been extensively tested.
> I haven't had chance to look at them yet.

I've just had a quick look at your installer and I'm afraid that it
wouldn't meet the standards set by the macgpg team.  Take a look at the
documents I've sent you which should hopefully explain all.

Take care,

Ben

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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> I updated the packages (very slightly) to install into /usr/local,
> instead of /usr.

Um, macgpg should install to /usr/local.

> Warning: these packages still have not been extensively tested.

I haven't had chance to look at them yet.  When I get time I'll finish
out the macgpg packaging instructions, which includes details on
universal binaries.

Take care,

Ben

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[David Shaw]

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:05:09PM +, Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> Charly Avital wrote:
> > Maybe I misunderstood the indications in .
> 
> My understanding is that the macgpg team decided to stop supporting old
> versions of Mac OS.
> 
> However, the recent version of gnupg should (touch wood!) compile from
> source without any (real) problems.

Yes indeed.

Let me reiterate: as far as I'm concerned, if the current GPG doesn't
build on a particular version of OSX, that's a bug.  And I'll do my
best to fix GPG so it does build.

David

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Charly Avital wrote:
> Maybe I misunderstood the indications in .

My understanding is that the macgpg team decided to stop supporting old
versions of Mac OS.

However, the recent version of gnupg should (touch wood!) compile from
source without any (real) problems.

Ben

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Ryan R. LaMothe wrote:
> How difficult would be it be to package this application as a .app
> bundle instead of all over the filesystem like the typical Unix
> application (which makes installing/uninstalling/upgrading a pita)?

There's nothing stopping you doing it and making the result available to
all.

Ben

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Breen Mullins]

On 3/7/07, David Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do you mean binary releases from somewhere or building your own?  If
> you're building your own, this is not the case, or at least, should
> not be the case.  If compiling 1.4.7 on Panther doesn't work, report
> it as a bug.  I will fix it.

It worked for me. I didn't report success because I didn't think it
was an issue.

Breen

-- 
Breen Mullins
Menlo Park, Calif.

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

David Shaw wrote the following on 3/7/07 8:08 PM:
[...]

> Do you mean binary releases from somewhere or building your own?  If
> you're building your own, this is not the case, or at least, should
> not be the case.  If compiling 1.4.7 on Panther doesn't work, report
> it as a bug.  I will fix it.
> 
> David

Maybe I misunderstood the indications in .

I shall try to compile 1.4.7 on Panther (not just right now), and report
back.

Charly

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[David Shaw]

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 07:35:57PM +0200, Charly Avital wrote:
> Sascha Welter wrote the following on 3/7/07 4:11 PM:
> > (Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:55:28PM +0200) Charly Avital wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
> >> I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but
> >> you will find complementary information in that site.
> > 
> > Since we've just had a security related update to 1.4.6 and a security
> > related update to 1.4.7, I'd be hesitant to use or recommend 1.4.1.
> 
> Quite, but later versions of gnupg, as far as I have read, are not
> compatible with OS X 10.3.9.

Do you mean binary releases from somewhere or building your own?  If
you're building your own, this is not the case, or at least, should
not be the case.  If compiling 1.4.7 on Panther doesn't work, report
it as a bug.  I will fix it.

David

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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Robert J. Hansen]

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> Why isn't this application packaged like normal OS X apps in an  
> application bundle?  Why the Unix(Linux) bundling and installing?

Usually, these "normal" OS X apps are Cocoa apps.  If it has a nifty- 
keen GUI on it, odds are good that it's a Cocoa app and is thus  
packaged as a .app.  But otherwise, odds are good that it's a regular  
UNIX utility and will be packaged like a regular UNIX utility.

For instance, the Apple Developer Tools are packaged both like .apps  
and like regular UNIX utilities.  XCode is a Cocoa apps, and as such,  
it's packaged as a .app.  But Apple's C compiler is a regular UNIX  
utility, and as such, it's packaged as /usr/bin/gcc.


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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

Sascha Welter wrote the following on 3/7/07 4:11 PM:
> (Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:55:28PM +0200) Charly Avital wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
>> I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but
>> you will find complementary information in that site.
> 
> Since we've just had a security related update to 1.4.6 and a security
> related update to 1.4.7, I'd be hesitant to use or recommend 1.4.1.

Quite, but later versions of gnupg, as far as I have read, are not
compatible with OS X 10.3.9.

See MacGPG's web site , where different
versions of GnuPG are posted for OS 10.1.x, 10.2.x, 10.3.x, and now 10.4.x.

Apparently the "last" GnuPG version for 10.3.9 is 1.4.1. For better or
for worse.

> 
>> All the above, until or if you decide to upgrade from 10.3.9.
> 
> There are Macs that can't upgrade beyond 10.3.9 and that will still work
> fine with that system for many years to come.

I also have a G3 iMac, running 10.3.9, works fine.

I have even a venerable 1998 vintage Wallstreet, where I succeeded to
install Panther, but that was a long time ago.

> 
> Myself I tend to compile gnupg anyway, which IIRC never was much of a
> problem on 10.3.9 anyway. But I understand that some people don't have
> the knowledge or confidence to do that.

Till now, I have  compiled gnupg from source. I don't have the
knowledge, I follow the instructions set in MacGPG's web site. If or
when something goes wrong, I ask questions, get answers (most of the
time), and try to remedy. Call that confidence? I don't know.

I only know it has worked till now, including GnuPG 2.0.2

Charly

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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Robert J. Hansen]

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> I've packaged up 1.4.5 and 1.4.6 and was looking at getting 1.4.7 done
> asap, but you may have saved me the trouble! :)

Thank you for being gracious.  :)

I updated the packages (very slightly) to install into /usr/local,  
instead of /usr.  It seems to be a tradeoff--while I know a few OS X  
users who have (for reasons inscrutable to me) elected to remove /usr/ 
local from their PATH, there are a fair number of OS X crypto apps  
hardwired to expect it in /usr/local.  Mulberry, GPGMail, etc.

The original links still work; they point to non-IDEA-enabled  
builds.  For completeness' sake, the links are all listed here:

http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC-IDEA.dmg
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386-IDEA.dmg
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg

Signatures are available at:

http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC-IDEA.dmg.asc
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg.asc
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386-IDEA.dmg.asc
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg.asc

Warning: these packages still have not been extensively tested.


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Re: [Macgpg-users] 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Sascha Welter]

(Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 12:55:28PM +0200) Charly Avital wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
> I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but
> you will find complementary information in that site.

Since we've just had a security related update to 1.4.6 and a security
related update to 1.4.7, I'd be hesitant to use or recommend 1.4.1.

> All the above, until or if you decide to upgrade from 10.3.9.

There are Macs that can't upgrade beyond 10.3.9 and that will still work
fine with that system for many years to come.

Myself I tend to compile gnupg anyway, which IIRC never was much of a
problem on 10.3.9 anyway. But I understand that some people don't have
the knowledge or confidence to do that.

Regards,

Sascha


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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Benjamin Donnachie]

Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> I've taken the liberty of packaging up 1.4.7 for OS X.

Take a look at the macgpg project at http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/

> (I apologize to Benjamin if I'm stepping on his toes here; by my 
> recollection,  
> he's doing packages for 2.0.x, not 1.4.x, so I _should_ be safe.)

I've packaged up 1.4.5 and 1.4.6 and was looking at getting 1.4.7 done
asap, but you may have saved me the trouble! :)

As for the 2.x branch, there hasn't been enough interest for me to
devote considerable amounts of my time to getting it packaged up.

> Packages:
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg
> http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg

Join macgpg and we'll show you how to make universal binaries.

Ben

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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Charly Avital]

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reynt0 wrote the following on 3/7/07 3:51 AM:
[...]

> I'm still looking
> for an easy way to get the latest gnupg but for
> OS 10.3.9, not OS 10.4.x.  

[...]

At , please scroll down to 'Files"
where you will find:

For Mac OS X 10.3.x
1.4.1, MD5: f4eb3c7d233e18fd1bf56d6bb576bbd9
Detached Sig

GnuPG 1.4.1 can be downloaded from the hyperlink as a .dmg binary installer.

I can't remember whether or which security problems 1.4.1 comported, but
you will find complementary information in that site.

All the above, until or if you decide to upgrade from 10.3.9.

Charly


Charly

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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Robert J. Hansen]

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> With full appreciation for your and everyone's work,
> could I ask that, when posting, people be specific
> which OSX they are talking about?

Tiger has been out for two years now; I think it's reasonable to  
think that, unless specified otherwise, software will be targeting  
Tiger.

> I'm still looking for an easy way to get the latest
> gnupg but for OS 10.3.9, not OS 10.4.x.

Unfortunately, I can't help you.

I would also recommend switching to one of the free Unices if you  
don't want to upgrade to 10.4 or 10.5.  Once 10.5 comes out, 10.3  
will probably be EOLed and there will be no further security  
updates.  Please give serious thought to either (a) migrating to a  
free UNIX or (b) upgrading to 10.4/10.5.


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Re: 1.4.7 packages for OS X

[reynt0]

With full appreciation for your and everyone's work,
could I ask that, when posting, people be specific
which OSX they are talking about?  I'm still looking
for an easy way to get the latest gnupg but for
OS 10.3.9, not OS 10.4.x.  That is, a way which
doesn't involve having to install extraneous software
with its extra level of trust (eg Fink); and which
also avoids the Apple trend to asserting Micro$oft-like
control over users' computers
(cf eg  and
the links there, about 10.4, and one fears, 10.5 too);
and which also I can summarize in a "HowTo" recipe that
I can then use to distribute to academic and scientific
users who need to start using encryption and IMHO should
be encouraged to use open source.

Sorry for being wordy.

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Robert J. Hansen wrote:

> I've taken the liberty of packaging up 1.4.7 for OS X.  (I apologize
> to Benjamin if I'm stepping on his toes here; by my recollection,
> he's doing packages for 2.0.x, not 1.4.x, so I _should_ be safe.)
 . . .

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1.4.7 packages for OS X

[Robert J. Hansen]

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I've taken the liberty of packaging up 1.4.7 for OS X.  (I apologize  
to Benjamin if I'm stepping on his toes here; by my recollection,  
he's doing packages for 2.0.x, not 1.4.x, so I _should_ be safe.)

They haven't been tested broadly, but so far they've worked on every  
system I've thrown them at (five machines, a smattering of Intel and  
PowerPC).

Please note that these packages include IDEA support, which may  
(depending on your jurisdiction) give you some patent troubles.   
Please be responsible and download in accordance with your region's  
laws and the GNU GPL, and please only use IDEA for reading existing  
messages and not for creating new ones.



Packages:

http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg


Signatures for the two packages can be found at:

http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-PowerPC.dmg.asc
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/GnuPG-1.4.7-i386.dmg


Clearly, GnuPG.org is the appropriate site to refer people to for  
source code.  However, to keep everything according to Hoyle, source  
code is also available from:

http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/gnupg-1.4.7.tar.bz2
http://rjhansen.cs.uiowa.edu/~rjh/idea.c.gz


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