[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Jean-Claude Guédon]

  > Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
> > (303) 556-5936
> > jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu
>         > 
>     > -Original Message-
>         > From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On 
> Behalf Of Reckling, Falk, Dr.
> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
> > To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> > Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in 
> the dash for open access
> > 
> > 
> > I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a 
> OA journal does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> > 
> > Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA 
> journals, most of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which 
> is a good predictor of being successful in the long run)
> > 
> > a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
> > http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
> > 
> > b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): 
> http://econtheory.org/
> > 
> > c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional 
> funding):
> > http://journals.iza.org/
> > 
> > d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal 
> but now society based funding):
> > http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
> > 
> > All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many 
> other fields. 
> > 
> > What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding 
> by an institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity 
> or ...
> > 
> > Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a 
> clever business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
> http://peerj.com/ 
> > 
> > In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit 
> their needs ...
> > 
> > Best Falk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" 
> :
> > 
> > > The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they 
> play 
> > > major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
> > > scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
> > > journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And 
> also 
> > > it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous 
> subscription 
> > > charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for 
> monographs 
> > > (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
> > > Humanities to cut their journals.
> > > Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" 
> with 
> > > pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
> > > So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the 
> problems.
> > > Larry Hurtado
> > > 
> > > Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 
> Jul
> > > 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
> > > 
> > >> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities 
> and 
> > >> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
> > >> 
> > >> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
> > >> 
> > >> Jan
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 2012/7/25  :
> > >>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly 
> mooted a 
> > >>> few days ago.
> > >>> Larry Hurtado
> > >>> 
> > >>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on 
> Wed, 25 
> > >>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
> > >>> 
> > >>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
> open 
> > >>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research 
> > >>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash 
> for 
> &

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Reckling, Falk, Dr.]

Not like that, but there is the interesting story by Stuart Shieber on the 
Journal of Machine Learning: 
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/



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Social Science and Humanities / Strategic Analysis / Open Access
Head of Units
Austrian Science Fund (FWF)
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Von: goal-boun...@eprints.org [goal-boun...@eprints.org]" im Auftrag von "Eric 
F. Van de Velde [eric.f.vandeve...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012 20:39
An: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Betreff: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access

For funders that already have set up a Green OA mandate with an 
funder-sponsored repository, it would be a relatively small additional 
investment to sponsor journals.

They would not have to manage it themselves. They could put out a periodic 
Request for Proposals to manage journals on their behalf. Any scholarly 
publisher or start-up could compete for that business, thereby ensuring the 
management is done at minimal cost.

The only thing the funder would have to do is put together editorial boards. 
This is something they already do when they put together proposal-review panels.

The result would be Gold Libre OA without author-paid fees. The cost to 
research funders is likely minimal, and they would gain a significant 
quality-assessment tool. In fact, these are Gold OA journals that would not 
have the "vanity-press incentive" built-in when Gold OA is paid for by authors 
(the so-called predatory Gold OA journals).

Would such a model be workable? Any unintended consequences? Has it been tried 
anywhere?
--Eric.

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On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jean-Claude Guédon 
mailto:jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca>> wrote:
Like Stevan Harnad, I say: enough with colours!

The important thing to remember is that gold OA is not, repeat *NOT* limited to 
author-pay schemes. There are indeed many journals that are gratis to authors 
and libre to readers (e.g. SciELO and RedALyC journals in latin America and 
beyond). To my mind, this is the optimal version of Gold.

Jean-Claude Guédon

Le jeudi 26 juillet 2012 à 06:16 -0600, Beall, Jeffrey a écrit :

I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access.

Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access

This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant and 
worthy of a separate appellation.


Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
Auraria Library
University of Colorado Denver
1100 Lawrence St.
Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
(303) 556-5936
jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu<mailto:jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu>

-Original Message-
From: goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> 
[mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Reckling, Falk, Dr.
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access


I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!

Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most 
of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good 
predictor of being successful in the long run)

a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
http://www.economics-ejournal.org/

b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/

c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
http://journals.iza.org/

d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
society based funding):
http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php

All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields.

What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...

Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
http://peerj.com/

In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
...

Best Falk




Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk<mailto:l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk>" 
mailto:l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk>>:

> The question isn't 

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Jean-Claude Guédon]

Like Stevan Harnad, I say: enough with colours!

The important thing to remember is that gold OA is not, repeat *NOT*
limited to author-pay schemes. There are indeed many journals that are
gratis to authors and libre to readers (e.g. SciELO and RedALyC journals
in latin America and beyond). To my mind, this is the optimal version of
Gold.

Jean-Claude Guédon

Le jeudi 26 juillet 2012 à 06:16 -0600, Beall, Jeffrey a écrit :

> I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 
> 
>   Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
>   No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access
> 
> This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant 
> and worthy of a separate appellation. 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
> Auraria Library
> University of Colorado Denver
> 1100 Lawrence St.
> Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
> (303) 556-5936
> jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
> Reckling, Falk, Dr.
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash 
> for open access
> 
> 
> I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
> does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> 
> Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most 
> of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good 
> predictor of being successful in the long run)
> 
> a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
> http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
> 
> b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/
> 
> c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
> http://journals.iza.org/
> 
> d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
> society based funding):
> http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
> 
> All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 
> 
> What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
> institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...
> 
> Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
> business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
> http://peerj.com/ 
> 
> In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
> ...
> 
> Best Falk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" :
> 
> > The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
> > major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
> > scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
> > journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
> > it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription 
> > charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs 
> > (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
> > Humanities to cut their journals.
> > Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
> > pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
> > So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
> > Larry Hurtado
> > 
> > Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 Jul
> > 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
> > 
> >> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
> >> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
> >> 
> >> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
> >> 
> >> Jan
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 2012/7/25  :
> >>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
> >>> few days ago.
> >>> Larry Hurtado
> >>> 
> >>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25 
> >>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
> >>> 
> >>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
> >>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
> >>>> 
> >>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research 
> >>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for 
> >>>> open access."
> >>>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template
> >>>> =rr_2col&view=article&articleId=1214091> Ch

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Stevan Harnad]

On 2012-07-26, at 8:16 AM, Beall, Jeffrey wrote:

> I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 
> 
>   Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
>   No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access

OA comes in two degrees:

Gratis OA is free online access.

Libre OA is free online access plus various re-use rights

OA can be provided via Gold OA publishing or via Green OA
self-archiving.

Gold OA publishing is defined as free to the reader. 

Some Gold OA journals charge and author fee, some don't. 

Some are pure Gold OA, some are hybrid.

We don't need a new color for every variant.

Stevan Harnad



And OA comes in two degrees:
> 
> This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant 
> and worthy of a separate appellation. 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
> Auraria Library
> University of Colorado Denver
> 1100 Lawrence St.
> Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
> (303) 556-5936
> jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
> Reckling, Falk, Dr.
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash 
> for open access
> 
> 
> I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
> does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> 
> Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most 
> of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good 
> predictor of being successful in the long run)
> 
> a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
> http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
> 
> b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/
> 
> c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
> http://journals.iza.org/
> 
> d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
> society based funding):
> http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
> 
> All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 
> 
> What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
> institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...
> 
> Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
> business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
> http://peerj.com/ 
> 
> In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
> ...
> 
> Best Falk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" :
> 
>> The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
>> major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
>> scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
>> journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
>> it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription 
>> charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs 
>> (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
>> Humanities to cut their journals.
>> Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
>> pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
>> So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
>> Larry Hurtado
>> 
>> Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 Jul
>> 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
>> 
>>> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
>>> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
>>> 
>>> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/7/25  :
>>>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
>>>> few days ago.
>>>> Larry Hurtado
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25 
>>>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>>>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research 
>>>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for 
>>>>> open access."
>>>>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template
>>>>> =rr_2col&view=arti

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Peter Murray-Rust]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Beall, Jeffrey
wrote:

> I think platinum open-access involves publishers and their journals or
> very often single journals, but green open-access is essentially
> self-archiving, including self-archiving of previously published stuff,
> usually in an institutional or disciplinary repository.
>
> Here's an example of what I would call a platinum open-access journal:
>
> Journal of Library Innovation = http://www.libraryinnovation.org/
>
> This is NOT BOAI-compliant. From their site:

Copyright Notice

The Journal of Library Innovation is an open access journal. Authors retain
the copyright to their work under the terms of the following Creative
Commons license: Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 (United
States) 
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/.

All authors will be required to sign a License to Publish prior to
publication.
NC is not BOAI-compliant
ND is not-BOAI-compliant

This licence would not be acceptable to a large number of funders (RCUK,
Wellcome, ESF, NIH, etc.)

For this reason it is important that we stop using arbitrary words and
start using precise terms. If this is a "platinum" journal then I am not in
favour of this term.



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Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Beall, Jeffrey]

I think platinum open-access involves publishers and their journals or very 
often single journals, but green open-access is essentially self-archiving, 
including self-archiving of previously published stuff, usually in an 
institutional or disciplinary repository. 

Here's an example of what I would call a platinum open-access journal:

Journal of Library Innovation = http://www.libraryinnovation.org/

--Jeffrey Beall



-Original Message-
From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Leslie Carr
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:35 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access

Is platinum effectively the same as green?

Sent from my iPad

On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:12, "Beall, Jeffrey"  wrote:

> I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 
> 
>Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
>No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access
> 
> This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant 
> and worthy of a separate appellation. 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor Auraria 
> Library University of Colorado Denver
> 1100 Lawrence St.
> Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
> (303) 556-5936
> jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
> Reckling, Falk, Dr.
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the 
> dash for open access
> 
> 
> I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
> does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> 
> Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA 
> journals, most of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards 
> (which is a good predictor of being successful in the long run)
> 
> a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
> http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
> 
> b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): 
> http://econtheory.org/
> 
> c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
> http://journals.iza.org/
> 
> d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
> society based funding):
> http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
> 
> All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 
> 
> What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
> institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...
> 
> Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a 
> clever business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life 
> Science?: http://peerj.com/
> 
> In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
> ...
> 
> Best Falk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" :
> 
>> The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
>> major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
>> scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
>> journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
>> it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous 
>> subscription charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding 
>> for monographs (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put 
>> pressure on Humanities to cut their journals.
>> Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
>> pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
>> So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
>> Larry Hurtado
>> 
>> Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 Jul
>> 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
>> 
>>> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
>>> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
>>> 
>>> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/7/25  :
>>>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
>>>> few days ago.
>>>> Larry Hurtado
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 
>>>> 25 Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>>>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>>>> 
&g

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Reckling, Falk, Dr.]

A Platinum OA journal is, to my mind, an OA journal which is completely 
BOAI-compliant (CC:BY, content mining, e.g.) but where the cost of the journal 
is not covered by APCs but by other sources like research institution, academic 
societies, funders e.g.  But that is not Green OA!



The problem with that distinction is that models seem to arise which are 
between Gold and Platinum: partly covered by institutional funding and partly 
covered by some financial contribution from the authors (submission fees, OA 
subscriptions, e.g.)



However, in the end, it is mostly tax payers money, either directly transfered 
by the institution (university, funder) to the journal or tranfered by the the 
institution (university, funder) to the authors and then to the journal ...



Best, Falk



__
Falk Reckling, PhD
Social Science and Humanities / Strategic Analysis / Open Access
Head of Units
Austrian Science Fund (FWF)
Sensengasse 1
A-1090 Vienna
email: falk.reckl...@fwf.ac.at<mailto:falk.reckl...@fwf.ac.at>
Tel.: +43-1-5056740-8301
Mobil: + 43-699-19010147
Web: http://www.fwf.ac.at/de/contact/personen/reckling_falk.html

Von: goal-boun...@eprints.org [goal-boun...@eprints.org]" im Auftrag von "Peter 
Murray-Rust [pm...@cam.ac.uk]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012 15:26
An: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Betreff: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access



On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Beall, Jeffrey 
mailto:jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu>> wrote:
I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access.

Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access

This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant and 
worthy of a separate appellation.

I assume that "free" means "as in speech" (Stallman)  and effectively 
BOAI-compliant,  otherwise it overlaps significantly with Green. If so and if 
we are forced to use semantic-free labels such as G and G, I support this in 
general. But the terminology and permissions must be clear, else we end up with 
Wiley's "fully open" which allows almost zero re-use other than eyeballs.

OTOH it would be much clearer if we actually used a labelling system which 
clearly denoted permissions, availability, cost, price, etc.

P.


--
Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Omega Alpha Open Access]

As I mentioned in my brief review which linked to Peter Webster's article, he 
isn't saying humanities scholars will reject OA, but there needs to be nuance 
within the larger conversation. His articulation was helpful to alert us to the 
fact that different disciplines take differing approaches to scholarly 
communication. Current funding models clearly favor the sciences, which tend to 
be more flush with cash to cover APCs (which, as has been discussed, are being 
exploited to keep commercial publishers in control of the system, and their 
revenues). 

I tend to agree with Falk, however. I appreciate the realities of disciplinary 
and institutional inertia, the power of tradition, and the fear of jeopardized 
reputations and (in the case of many scholarly societies) revenue streams. But 
there are now virtually no technical barriers for any community or group of 
scholars to start publishing a low cost OA journal before the end of day today 
(depending on your time zone). The tools are readily available. These journals 
can be designed to reduce the time period between submission and publication.

Whether new or existing, what is needed is for the scholarly communities and 
the respected scholars within these communities to AUTHORIZE these journals 
with their reputations. We will sit on editorial boards of these OA journals. 
We will serve as reviewers for these journals. We will submit our research 
articles to these journals. We will validate for our institutions the quality 
of the research published in these journals for tenure and promotion, and for 
the encouragement of junior scholars who are trying to build their own 
reputations. We will encourage our institutions' provosts, department heads, 
libraries and university presses to help fund/lend expertise to these journals 
as they grow and require more administrative and technical support.

Gary F. Daught
Omega Alpha | Open Access
http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com
Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and theology
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> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:52:56 +
> From: "Reckling, Falk, Dr." 
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the
>   dash for open access
> To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)" 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
> 
> 
> I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
> does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> 
> ...snip...
> 
> What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
> institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...
> 
> Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
> business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
> http://peerj.com/ 
> 
> In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
> ...
> 
> Best Falk

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[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Leslie Carr]

Is platinum effectively the same as green?

Sent from my iPad

On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:12, "Beall, Jeffrey"  wrote:

> I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 
> 
>Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
>No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access
> 
> This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant 
> and worthy of a separate appellation. 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
> Auraria Library
> University of Colorado Denver
> 1100 Lawrence St.
> Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
> (303) 556-5936
> jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
> Reckling, Falk, Dr.
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash 
> for open access
> 
> 
> I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
> does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!
> 
> Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most 
> of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good 
> predictor of being successful in the long run)
> 
> a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
> http://www.economics-ejournal.org/
> 
> b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/
> 
> c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
> http://journals.iza.org/
> 
> d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
> society based funding):
> http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php
> 
> All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 
> 
> What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
> institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...
> 
> Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
> business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
> http://peerj.com/ 
> 
> In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
> ...
> 
> Best Falk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" :
> 
>> The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
>> major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
>> scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
>> journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
>> it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription 
>> charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs 
>> (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
>> Humanities to cut their journals.
>> Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
>> pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
>> So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
>> Larry Hurtado
>> 
>> Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 Jul
>> 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
>> 
>>> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
>>> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
>>> 
>>> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/7/25  :
>>>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
>>>> few days ago.
>>>> Larry Hurtado
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25 
>>>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>>>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research 
>>>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for 
>>>>> open access."
>>>>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template
>>>>> =rr_2col&view=article&articleId=1214091> Check it out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the 
>>>>> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an 
>>>>> "author-pays" business model. He feels inadequate attention in the 
>>>>> conv

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Peter Murray-Rust]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Beall, Jeffrey
wrote:

> I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access.
>
> Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
> No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access
>
> This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is
> significant and worthy of a separate appellation.
>

I assume that "free" means "as in speech" (Stallman)  and effectively
BOAI-compliant,  otherwise it overlaps significantly with Green. If so and
if we are forced to use semantic-free labels such as G and G, I support
this in general. But the terminology and permissions must be clear, else we
end up with Wiley's "fully open" which allows almost zero re-use other than
eyeballs.

OTOH it would be much clearer if we actually used a labelling system which
clearly denoted permissions, availability, cost, price, etc.

P.


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[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Reckling, Falk, Dr.]

I find that distinction very useful, although mixed models like small 
submission fees, OA subscriptions (PEERJ) and others seem to arise ... 

Platinum OA actually implies that public research institutions (incl. 
charities) should (at least partly) increase their funding of  academic OA 
publishing. Not only to support OA as such but also because ... 
a) it helps smaller disciplines of all areas where third party funding is 
significantly lower as in the big disciplines of the Life and Natural Sciences. 
b) it could help to mitigate the price development for APCs by commercial 
publishers  

Best,
Falk

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] Im Auftrag von 
Beall, Jeffrey
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2012 14:17
An: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Betreff: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access

I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 

Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access

This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant and 
worthy of a separate appellation. 


Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
Auraria Library
University of Colorado Denver
1100 Lawrence St.
Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
(303) 556-5936
jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu

-Original Message-
From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Reckling, Falk, Dr.
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access


I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!

Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most 
of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good 
predictor of being successful in the long run)

a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
http://www.economics-ejournal.org/

b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/

c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
http://journals.iza.org/

d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
society based funding):
http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php

All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 

What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...

Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
http://peerj.com/ 

In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
...

Best Falk




Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" :

> The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
> major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
> scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
> journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
> it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription 
> charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs 
> (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
> Humanities to cut their journals.
> Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
> pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
> So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
> Larry Hurtado
> 
> Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 Jul
> 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
> 
>> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
>> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
>> 
>> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/7/25  :
>>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
>>> few days ago.
>>> Larry Hurtado
>>> 
>>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25 
>>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>>> 
>>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>>> 
>>>> 

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Beall, Jeffrey]

I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. 

Author fees + free to reader = gold open access
No author fees + free to reader = platinum open access

This discussion, I think, demonstrates that this distinction is significant and 
worthy of a separate appellation. 


Jeffrey Beall, Metadata Librarian / Associate Professor
Auraria Library
University of Colorado Denver
1100 Lawrence St.
Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
(303) 556-5936
jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu

-Original Message-
From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Reckling, Falk, Dr.
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 4:53 AM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access


I think there is still a misunderstanding with Gold OA. Running a OA journal 
does not necesserily mean to charges article fees!

Take Economics as an example: meanwhile there are some good OA journals, most 
of them are new but with very prominent advisory boards (which is a good 
predictor of being successful in the long run)

a) E-conomics (institutional funding):
http://www.economics-ejournal.org/

b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/

c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding):
http://journals.iza.org/

d) Journal of Economic Perspective (a former subscription journal but now 
society based funding):
http://www.aeaweb.org/jep/index.php

All of them are without APCs, and that model also works in many other fields. 

What is needed is a very good editorial board and a basic funding by an 
institution/society, or by a consortium of institutions or by a charity or ...

Or why not considering a megajournal in the Humanities and apply a clever 
business model as PEERJ tries it right now in the Life Science?: 
http://peerj.com/ 

In the end, it is up to the community to develop models which fit their needs 
...

Best Falk




Am 26.07.2012 um 12:09 schrieb "l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk" :

> The question isn't whether they're free or not, but whether they play 
> major roles as venues and outlets for important Humanities 
> scholarship.  And also it's still the case that traditional print 
> journals involve long print cues and delays in publication.  And also 
> it's the case that university libraries paying ridiculous subscription 
> charges for journals in the Sciences have less funding for monographs 
> (still the gold standard in Humanities), and even put pressure on 
> Humanities to cut their journals.
> Finally, there is the concern that the current move to "gold OA" with 
> pages charges, etc., will adversely affect Humanities scholars.
> So, please, no snap and simple replies.  Let's engage the problems.
> Larry Hurtado
> 
> Quoting Jan Szczepanski  on Wed, 25 Jul
> 2012 22:53:06 +0200:
> 
>> Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and 
>> social sciences of any importance in this discussion?
>> 
>> http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/7/25  :
>>> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a 
>>> few days ago.
>>> Larry Hurtado
>>> 
>>> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25 
>>> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>>> 
>>>> Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>>>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>>> 
>>>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research 
>>>> Fortnight website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for 
>>>> open access."
>>>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template
>>>> =rr_2col&view=article&articleId=1214091> Check it out.
>>>> 
>>>> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the 
>>>> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an 
>>>> "author-pays" business model. He feels inadequate attention in the 
>>>> conversation has been given to the unique needs of humanities 
>>>> scholarship, and why it may be harder for humanist scholars to 
>>>> embrace open access based on the "author-pays" model.
>>>> 
>>>> "There is no Public Library of History to match the phenomenally 
>>>> successful Public Library of Science."
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> Your comments are welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary F. Daught
>>>> Omega Alpha | Open Access
>>>> Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion an

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Dana Roth]

And the fact the ones that are not free are generally very modestly priced?

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dzr...@library.caltech.edu 
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From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of 
Jan Szczepanski
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:53 PM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for 
open access

Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and social 
sciences of any importance in this discussion?

http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski

Jan



2012/7/25  :
> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a few 
> days ago.
> Larry Hurtado
>
> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25 
> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>
>> Hat Tip: Let’s not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open 
>> access http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>
>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research Fortnight 
>> website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for open 
>> access."
>> <http://www.researchresearch.com/index.php?option=com_news&template=r
>> r_2col&view=article&articleId=1214091> Check it out.
>>
>> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the 
>> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an 
>> “author-pays” business model. He feels inadequate attention in the 
>> conversation has been given to the unique needs of humanities 
>> scholarship, and why it may be harder for humanist scholars to 
>> embrace open access based on the “author-pays” model.
>>
>> "There is no Public Library of History to match the phenomenally 
>> successful Public Library of Science."
>> …
>>
>> Your comments are welcome.
>>
>> Gary F. Daught
>> Omega Alpha | Open Access
>> Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and theology 
>> http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com oa.openaccess @ gmail.com | 
>> @OAopenaccess
>>
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[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[Jan Szczepanski]

Is more than sixteen thousand free e-journals in the humanities and
social sciences of any importance in this discussion?

http://www.scribd.com/Jan%20Szczepanski

Jan



2012/7/25  :
> Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a few
> days ago.
> Larry Hurtado
>
> Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25
> Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:
>
>> Hat Tip: Let’s not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access
>> http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>>
>> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research Fortnight
>> website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for open
>> access."
>> 
>>  Check it
>> out.
>>
>> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the
>> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an
>> “author-pays” business model. He feels inadequate attention in the
>> conversation has been given to the unique needs of humanities
>> scholarship, and why it may be harder for humanist scholars to
>> embrace open access based on the “author-pays” model.
>>
>> "There is no Public Library of History to match the phenomenally
>> successful Public Library of Science."
>> …
>>
>> Your comments are welcome.
>>
>> Gary F. Daught
>> Omega Alpha | Open Access
>> Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and theology
>> http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com
>> oa.openaccess @ gmail.com | @OAopenaccess
>>
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> Honorary Professorial Fellow
> New College (School of Divinity)
> University of Edinburgh
> Mound Place
> Edinburgh, UK. EH1 2LX
> Office Phone:  (0)131 650 8920. FAX:  (0)131 650 7952
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[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

[l . hurtado]

Webster concisely articulates the concerns that I briefly mooted a few  
days ago.
Larry Hurtado

Quoting Omega Alpha Open Access  on Wed, 25  
Jul 2012 11:03:30 -0400:

> Hat Tip: Let’s not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access
> http://wp.me/p20y83-no
>
> Nice article this morning by Peter Webster on the Research Fortnight  
> website entitled "Humanities left behind in the dash for open  
> access."  
> 
>  Check it  
> out.
>
> Webster observes that much of the current conversation around the  
> growth of open access focuses on the sciences and use of an  
> “author-pays” business model. He feels inadequate attention in the  
> conversation has been given to the unique needs of humanities  
> scholarship, and why it may be harder for humanist scholars to  
> embrace open access based on the “author-pays” model.
>
> "There is no Public Library of History to match the phenomenally  
> successful Public Library of Science."
> …
>
> Your comments are welcome.
>
> Gary F. Daught
> Omega Alpha | Open Access
> Advocate for open access academic publishing in religion and theology
> http://oaopenaccess.wordpress.com
> oa.openaccess @ gmail.com | @OAopenaccess
>
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