[Goanet] AVF's posting on expats...
AVF's post on an 'expat Goans voice' raises some interesting issues, contains some views one can't agree with, and makes charges which one would rather not get caught up in. Some points for brainstorming: * The view that large sections of the Press in Goa doesn't care much about Goa is not a myth. But that has more to do with the urge to make quick profits. If a new newspaper is set up, what guarantee is there that it won't go down the same road? * An advert blitz just might not really convince anyone. * What are the low-cost options to build up a media-diversity in the years to come? Do none really exist? Does one have to necessarily follow the route of starting major new newspapers? * The Internet might be an elitist medium at this point of time; but what is likely to be the situation two years down the line? Already many in Goa have access this medium? Is there any way of granting more access to the Internet to more people in the state? Free modems for schools (not a heavy investment)? Encouraging more youngsters to gain from the Net? Opening up school labs for community use in non-school hours? * Seeking to build up a newspaper that represents a community or caste group (this was the case in the past for much of the 20th century; not sure about the present) would be a disaster. What is needed is media institutions who would be simply willing to tell the truth, without censorship. But is that asking for too much? * Just pouring in money into Goa could well be counter-productive, and attract the wrong sort of interest. Instead, to make sure money is well spent, would it be possible to, say, offer scholarships to young students to study journalism/media studies outside Goa? (There are virtually no such courses in Goa.) * What happens when the interest of the expat is seen as running counter to that of the Goa-based Goan? Is there some way of harmonising these? The need for a free and vibrant press is a must for any society. In the 'sixties, 'seventies and early 'eighties, there was virtually no media diversity, particularly in the English-language press. The arrival of Herald (1983) and Gomantak Times (1987) did something to change that situation. But, papers too mature, and once circulation grows, there's a tendency to become pro-establishment, leading to the newer papers suffering from similar ailments as the earlier ones. As one firmly believes, a society that cannot think for itself, and generate its own ideas... is as good as an enslaved society. But finding a solution is a far, far more complex issue that AVF suggests. FN On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, goanet-digest wrote: -- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:46:13 + From: A. Veronica Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] EXPATRIATE GOANS VOICE. EXPATRIATE GOANS VOICE. The expatriate Goans and especially Gulf Goans have shown lot of interest in the affairs of Goa and its well being. Regretably our efforts are directed only to help financially Goan affairs without any collateral rights and =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=- To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet == For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Old Wedding Customs ....BIKAREANCHEM JEVONN...IV
Dear Fr.Mascarenhas, That was an interesting article on our Goan wedding customs, which till today are still being maintained/carried out by many families. Such customs do add more festivity and gaiety to the on-going marriage ceremony that will take place in a day or two. I missed out on your earlier articles I II, and would appreciate your kindly forwarding them to me for my knowledge. Thank you Bernadine. --- nascimen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BHIKAREANCHEM JEVONN--THE BEGGARS' LUNCH. Before describing the beggars' lunch in Saligao let me add a few words on Bhuim Jevon which was served on plantain leaf( keinbeacho khollo) or potraouli or potravoll(made of jack-fruit tree leaves and joined by vir broom-sticks or coconut leaf sticks) to the guests seated on the floor in the refeitorio(dining hall) on a large bamboo mat (souiem). The lunch was presided by the ezman(one who presides), serving vodde, sannam, sorpotel, vindalo, samarem and onn etc. (A) Among Christians--- A lavish feast called Bikareanchem Jevonor Beggars' Lunch is held a day or two before the wedding day, preferably __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Fwd: [Goanet] Deep Purple will have Goa rocking
** Forwarded Message Follows *** To: One Goa (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Egbert Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:13:32 +0400 CAMPAL: Famous Deep Purple, one of the world's first brands to fuse classical and rock music, will be visiting Goa to enthral audiences with its unique genre of sophisticated rock'n'roll. The band is on its 2002 World Tour and will perform at different places in the country, including Mumbai and Goa, as part of the Indian segment. The Goa concert is presented by soft drink major Pepsi in association with BPL Mobile, Parax and MTV and will be held at the Panaji Gymkhana Grounds, Campal, on May 5. The tour is expected to feature some of the band's most popular tracks including the classics Smoke On The Water, Fireball, Black Night, Lady from Tokyo, Hush and many more foot-tapping numbers. Deep Purple's Lan Paice, the constant element in its signature sound, will play the drums with the same passion and ability that earned the band global esteem. Lan Gillan, whose golden throat landed him the original lead role in Jesus Christ Superstar, will showcase his classic vocal styling in Goa and Mumbai. On the guitar will be Steve Mores who has aptly filled Ritchie Blackmore's sizable shoes. Roger Glove's handling of the bass with Don Airey on the keyboards will add an unquestionable vitality to Deep Purple music. The band first gained global prominence after the release of the 1970s' hit Deep Purple in Rock. This album still stands as a milestone in defining what would eventually be called `hard rock' and the resulting tours maintained the band's reputation as one of the best live acts in music business. After playing to an audience of over 8 million in more than 50 countries across the globe, Deep Purple is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year with their largest world tour since 1985. The recent album, Abandon, showcases an exciting, relevant act of the group. This tour to India and its different cities will feature more new songs than they have ever played before, including classics that are sure to please the India audience. The show in Goa is expected to be a world class event with an awesome stage powered by approximately 300,000 watts of stunning sound and dazzling lights. With the 2002 World Tour covering Australia, the Far East, Japan and India, Deep Purple is expected to single out Mumbai and especially Goa, to relive a classic performance of the best of Purple. Courtesy : Indian Express To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #3907
goanet-digest Tuesday, April 30 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3907 - In this issue: [Goanet] Why women cry [Goanet] Old Wedding Customs BIKAREANCHEM JEVONN...IV Re: [Goanet] Old Wedding Customs BIKAREANCHEM JEVONN...IV RE: [Goanet] Old Wedding Customs BIKAREANCHEM JEVONN...IV Fwd: [Goanet] Deep Purple will have Goa rocking See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:23:13 +0300 From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Why women cry Dear Friends, Here's another one for Mothers day Why are you crying, a young boy asked his Mom? Because I'm a woman, she told him. I don't understand, he said His Mom just hugged him and said, And you never will, but that's O.K.. Later the little boy asked his father, Why does Mom seem to cry for no reason?. All women cry for no reason, was all his Dad could say.. The little boy grew up and became a man, still wondering why women cry. Finally he put in a call to God and when God got back to him, he asked God, why do women cry so easily? GOD answered. When I made woman, I decided she had to be special. I made her shoulders strong enough to carry the weight of the world, yet, made her arms gentle enough to give comfort.. I gave her the inner strength to endure childbirth and rejection and the rejection that many times will come even from her own children. I gave her hardness that allows her to keep going and take care of her family and friends, even when everyone else gives up, through sickness and fatigue without complaining. I gave her the sensitivity to love her children under any and all circumstances. Even when her child has hurt her badly.. She has the very special power to make a child's boo-boo feel better and to quell a teenager's anxieties and fears. I gave her strength to care for her husband, despite faults and I fashioned her from his rib to protect his heart. I gave her wisdom to know that a good husband never hurts his wife, but sometimes tests her strengths and her resolve to stand beside him unfalteringly.. For all of this hard work, I also gave her a tear to shed. It is hers to use whenever needed and ! it is her only weakness When you see her cry, tell her how much you love her, and all she does for everyone, and even though she may still cry, you will have made her heart feel good. She is special! Let your mother, sister, women friend know this and also men so they will understand about what a wonderful thing a woman is. Each day is a mountain that must be climbed; with courage each step gets easier. Love your Mother Always and keep her Smiling!!! Eddie Verdes Saudi Arabia -- Date: 30 Apr 2002 12:54:17 +0530 From: nascimen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Old Wedding Customs BIKAREANCHEM JEVONN...IV BHIKAREANCHEM JEVONN--THE BEGGARS' LUNCH. Before describing the beggars' lunch in Saligao let me add a few words on Bhuim Jevon which was served on plantain leaf( keinbeacho khollo) or potraouli or potravoll(made of jack-fruit tree leaves and joined by vir broom-sticks or coconut leaf sticks) to the guests seated on the floor in the refeitorio(dining hall) on a large bamboo mat (souiem). The lunch was presided by the ezman(one who presides), serving vodde, sannam, sorpotel, vindalo, samarem and onn etc. (A) Among Christians--- A lavish feast called Bikareanchem Jevonor Beggars' Lunch is held a day or two before the wedding day, preferably on a tuesday. Seven or nine members(always odd in number), men and women who are reported to be poor or in 'beggarly' condition, are invited to a sumptuous lunch with pork, beef, fish, rice and a curry of special type called Samarachi Koddi, a heavily spiced aromatic, hot curry in some places, washed down with cashew or cocunut liquors. They squat on the floomat, and specially- prepared jack fruit tree leaves, well- plaited into plates are placed before them, into which food is served or ladled out by the bride or groom at each one's place of residence( At the time of my ordination, our family also had a bikareanchem jevonn at our place and I as ezman was asked to serve them, which I did and remember it nostalgically as I write this short essay). The intention behind the service is to remember and pray for the dead ancestors ( also masses are offered for the souls of the dead ancestors, close relatives of the family and even the old deceased faithful servant of the family)on this important occasion of their house, through the medium of these beggers representing them, the needy. Thus the forebears and relatives since dead make their presence felt at the lunch mentioned above. Generally the number and choice of the Beggers is taken keeping in view the age and sex of the
[Goanet] Arundhati Roy - Part III
Can we not find it in ourselves to belong to an ancient civilisation instead of to just a recent nation? To love a land instead of just patrolling a territory? The Sangh Parivar understands nothing of what civilisation means.It seeks to limit, reduce, define, dismember and desecrate the memory of what we were, our understanding of what we are, and our dreams of who we want to be. What kind of India do they want? A limbless, headless, soulless torso, left bleeding under the butchers' cleaver with a flag driven deep into her mutilated heart? Can we let that happen? Have we let it happen? The incipient, creeping fascism of the past few years has been groomed by many of our 'democratic' institutions. Everyone has flirted with it - Parliament, the press, the police, the administration, the public. Even 'secularists' have been guilty of helping to create the right climate. Each time you defend the right of an institution, any institution (including the Supreme Court), to exercise unfettered, unaccountable powers that must never be challenged, you move towards fascism. To be fair, perhaps not everyone recognised the early signs for what they were. The national press has been startlingly courageous in its denunciation of the events of the last few weeks. Many of the BJP's fellow travellers who have journeyed with it to the brink are now looking down the abyss into the hell that was once Gujarat, and turning away in genuine dismay. But how hard and for how long will they fight? This is not going to be like a publicity campaign for an upcoming cricket season.And there will not always be spectacular carnage to report on. Fascism is also about the slow, steady infiltration of all the instruments of State power. It's about the slow erosion of civil liberties, about unspectacular day-to-day injustices. Fighting it means fighting to win back the minds and hearts of people. Fighting it does not mean asking for RSS shakhas and the madrassas to be banned, it means working towards the day when they're voluntarily abandoned as bad ideas.It means keeping an eagle eye on public institutions and demanding accountability. It means putting your ear to the ground and listening to the whispering of the truly powerless. It means giving a forum to the myriad voices from the hundreds of resistance movements across the country who are speaking about real things - about bonded labour, marital rape, sexual preferences, women's wages, uranium dumping, unsustainable mining, weavers' woes, farmers' worries. It means fighting displacement and dispossession and the relentless, everyday violence of abject poverty. Fighting it also means not allowing your newspaper columns and prime-time TV spots to be hijacked by their spurious passions and their staged theatrics, which are designed to divert attention from everything else. While most people in India have been horrified by what happened in Gujarat, many thousands of the indoctrinated are preparing to journey deeper into the heart of the horror. Look around you and you'll see in little parks, in big maidans, in empty lots, in village commons, the RSS is marching, hoisting its saffron flag. Suddenly they're everywhere, grown men in khaki shorts marching, marching, marching. To where? For what? Their disregard for history shields them from the knowledge that fascism will thrive for a short while and then self-annihilate because of its inherent stupidity. But unfortunately, like the radioactive fallout of a nuclear strike, it has a half-life that will cripple generations to come. These levels of rage and hatred cannot be contained, cannot be expected to subside, with public censure and denunciation. Hymns of brotherhood and love are great, but not enough. Historically, fascist movements have been fuelled by feelings of national disillusionment. Fascism has come to India after the dreams that fuelled the Freedom Struggle have been frittered away like so much loose change. Independence itself came to us as what Gandhi famously called a 'wooden loaf' - a notional freedom tainted by the blood of the thousands who died during Partition.For more than half a century now, the hatred and mutual distrust has been exacerbated, toyed with and never allowed to heal by politicians, led from the front by Mrs Indira Gandhi. Every political party has tilled the marrow of our secular parliamentary democracy, mining it for electoral advantage. Like termites excavating a mound, they've made tunnels and underground passages, undermining the meaning of 'secular', until it has just become an empty shell that's about to implode. Their tilling has weakened the foundations of the structure that connects the Constitution, Parliament and the courts of law - the configuration of checks and balances that forms the backbone of a parliamentary democracy. Under the circumstances, it's futile to go on blaming politicians and demanding from them a morality they're incapable of.
[Goanet] Arundhati Roy - Part II
Madrassas, the Muslim equivalent of hothouses cultivating religious hatred, try and
make up in
frenzy and foreign funding, what they lack in State support. They provide the perfect
foil for
Hindu communalists to dance their dance of mass paranoia and hatred. (In fact they
serve that
purpose so perfectly, they might just as well be working as a team.)
Under this relentless pressure, what will most likely happen is that the majority of
the Muslim
community will resign itself to living in ghettos as second-class citizens, in
constant fear, with
no civil rights and no recourse to justice. What will daily life be like for them? Any
little
thing, an altercation in a cinema queue or a fracas at a traffic light, could turn
lethal. So they
will learn to keep very quiet, to accept their lot, to creep around the edges of the
society in
which they live. Their fear will transmit itself to other minorities. Many,
particularly the
young, will probably turn to militancy. They will do terrible things. Civil society
will be called
upon to condemn them. Then President Bush's canon will come back to us: Either you're
with us or
with the terrorists.
Those words hang frozen in time like icicles. For years to come, butchers and
genocidists will fit
their grisly mouths around them ('lip-synch', filmmakers call it) in order to justify
their
butchery.
Mr Bal Thackeray of the Shiv Sena, who has lately been feeling a little upstaged by Mr
Modi, has
the lasting solution. He's called for civil war. Isn't that just perfect? Then
Pakistan won't need
to bomb us, we can bomb ourselves. Let's turn all of India into Kashmir. Or Bosnia. Or
Palestine.
Or Rwanda. Let's all suffer forever. Let's buy expensive guns and explosives to kill
each other
with. Let the British arms dealers and the American weapons manufacturers grow fat on
our spilled
blood. We could ask the Carlyle group of which the Bush and Bin Laden families are
both
shareholders for a bulk discount. Maybe if things go really well, we'll become like
Afghanistan.
(And look at the publicity they've gone and got themselves.) When all our farm lands
are mined,
our buildings destroyed, our infrastructure reduced to rubble, our children physically
maimed and
mentally wrecked, when we've nearly wiped ourselves out with self-manufactured hatred,
maybe we
can appeal to the Americans to help us out. Airdropped airline meals, anyone?
How close we have come to self-destruction. Another step and we'll be in free-fall.
And yet the
government presses on. At the Goa meeting of the BJP's national executive, the Prime
Minister of
Secular, Democratic India, Mr A.B. Vajpayee, made history. He became the first Indian
Prime
Minister to cross the threshold and publicly unveil an unconscionable bigotry against
Muslims,
which even George Bush, and Donald Rumsfeld would be embarrassed to own up to.
Wherever Muslims
are, he said, they do not want to live peacefully.
Shame on him. But if only it were just him: in the immediate aftermath of the Gujarat
holocaust,
confident of the success of its 'experiment', the BJP wants a snap poll. The gentlest
of people,
my friend from Baroda said to me, the gentlest of people, in the gentlest of voices,
says 'Modi
is our hero.'
Some of us nurtured the naive hope that the magnitude of the horror of the last few
weeks would
make the Secular Parties, however self-serving, unite in sheer outrage. On its own,
the BJP does
not have the mandate of the people of India. It does not have the mandate to push
through the
Hindutva project. We hoped that the 27 allies that make up the BJP-led coalition at
the Centre
would withdraw their support. We thought, quite stupidly, that they would see that
there could be
no bigger test of their moral fibre, of their commitment to their avowed principles of
secularism.
It's a sign of the times that not a single one of the BJP's allies has withdrawn
support. In every
shifty eye you see that faraway look of someone doing mental maths to calculate which
constituencies and portfolios they'll retain and which ones they'll lose if they pull
out. Except
for Deepak Parekh of hdfc, not a single ceo of India's Corporate Community has
condemned what
happened. Farooq Abdullah, Chief Minister of Kashmir and the only prominent Muslim
politician left
in India, is currying favour with the government by supporting Modi because he's
nursing the dim
hope that he may become Vice-President of India very soon.And worst of all, Mayawati,
leader of
the BSP, the great hope of the lower castes, is on the verge of forging an alliance
with the BJP
in UP.
The Congress and the Left parties have launched a public agitation asking for Modi's
resignation.
Resignation? Have we lost all sense of proportion? Criminals are not meant to resign.
They're
meant to be charged, tried and convicted. As those who burned the train in Godhra
should be. As
the mobs, and those members of the police force and the administration who
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In this issue:
[Goanet] Arundhati Roy - Part II
[Goanet] Arundhati Roy - Part III
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Subject: [Goanet] Arundhati Roy - Part II
Madrassas, the Muslim equivalent of hothouses cultivating religious hatred, try and
make up in
frenzy and foreign funding, what they lack in State support. They provide the perfect
foil for
Hindu communalists to dance their dance of mass paranoia and hatred. (In fact they
serve that
purpose so perfectly, they might just as well be working as a team.)
Under this relentless pressure, what will most likely happen is that the majority of
the Muslim
community will resign itself to living in ghettos as second-class citizens, in
constant fear, with
no civil rights and no recourse to justice. What will daily life be like for them? Any
little
thing, an altercation in a cinema queue or a fracas at a traffic light, could turn
lethal. So they
will learn to keep very quiet, to accept their lot, to creep around the edges of the
society in
which they live. Their fear will transmit itself to other minorities. Many,
particularly the
young, will probably turn to militancy. They will do terrible things. Civil society
will be called
upon to condemn them. Then President Bush's canon will come back to us: Either you're
with us or
with the terrorists.
Those words hang frozen in time like icicles. For years to come, butchers and
genocidists will fit
their grisly mouths around them ('lip-synch', filmmakers call it) in order to justify
their
butchery.
Mr Bal Thackeray of the Shiv Sena, who has lately been feeling a little upstaged by Mr
Modi, has
the lasting solution. He's called for civil war. Isn't that just perfect? Then
Pakistan won't need
to bomb us, we can bomb ourselves. Let's turn all of India into Kashmir. Or Bosnia. Or
Palestine.
Or Rwanda. Let's all suffer forever. Let's buy expensive guns and explosives to kill
each other
with. Let the British arms dealers and the American weapons manufacturers grow fat on
our spilled
blood. We could ask the Carlyle group of which the Bush and Bin Laden families are
both
shareholders for a bulk discount. Maybe if things go really well, we'll become like
Afghanistan.
(And look at the publicity they've gone and got themselves.) When all our farm lands
are mined,
our buildings destroyed, our infrastructure reduced to rubble, our children physically
maimed and
mentally wrecked, when we've nearly wiped ourselves out with self-manufactured hatred,
maybe we
can appeal to the Americans to help us out. Airdropped airline meals, anyone?
How close we have come to self-destruction. Another step and we'll be in free-fall.
And yet the
government presses on. At the Goa meeting of the BJP's national executive, the Prime
Minister of
Secular, Democratic India, Mr A.B. Vajpayee, made history. He became the first Indian
Prime
Minister to cross the threshold and publicly unveil an unconscionable bigotry against
Muslims,
which even George Bush, and Donald Rumsfeld would be embarrassed to own up to.
Wherever Muslims
are, he said, they do not want to live peacefully.
Shame on him. But if only it were just him: in the immediate aftermath of the Gujarat
holocaust,
confident of the success of its 'experiment', the BJP wants a snap poll. The gentlest
of people,
my friend from Baroda said to me, the gentlest of people, in the gentlest of voices,
says 'Modi
is our hero.'
Some of us nurtured the naive hope that the magnitude of the horror of the last few
weeks would
make the Secular Parties, however self-serving, unite in sheer outrage. On its own,
the BJP does
not have the mandate of the people of India. It does not have the mandate to push
through the
Hindutva project. We hoped that the 27 allies that make up the BJP-led coalition at
the Centre
would withdraw their support. We thought, quite stupidly, that they would see that
there could be
no bigger test of their moral fibre, of their commitment to their avowed principles of
secularism.
It's a sign of the times that not a single one of the BJP's allies has withdrawn
support. In every
shifty eye you see that faraway look of someone doing mental maths to calculate which
constituencies and portfolios they'll retain and which ones they'll lose if they pull
out. Except
for Deepak Parekh of hdfc, not a single ceo of India's Corporate Community has
condemned what
happened. Farooq Abdullah, Chief Minister of Kashmir and the only prominent Muslim
politician left
in India, is currying favour with the government by supporting Modi because he's
nursing the dim
hope that he may become Vice-President of India very
[Goanet] Re: India may grant dual citizenship by end of 2002
India may grant dual citizenship by end of 2002 Those having dual citizenship will enjoy all rights and privileges on a par with Indian citizens, including right to property etc, but will not have political rights nor the right to run for political office. They may also be barred from appointments in strategic areas like defence, atomic energy etc, he said. Folks, I am almost at a loss for words. The above has got to be the most hilarious piece I have read in a long time. If I am reading this properly, India wants to create a class of citizens that are citizens, but not really citizens? Is there any citizen of the US or Canada who is going to agree to become a citizen of a country where he does not have ALL the rights that other citizens enjoy? Keeping in mind the January announcement by Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee on grant of dual citizenship to non-resident Indians (NRIs), a concerted effort is being made by the government to ensure that a law is enforced to this effect before January 2003, which marks the anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi's return to India from South Africa. This paragraph is just got to be the icing on this (fruit) cake news release. If I have understood the logic of the Indians, to celebrate the aniversary of Mahatma Gahdhi's return to India, India is going to create a special class of citizens that will not have the rights to run for political office? I thank my stars I live in Canada. Mervyn Lobo =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Old Wedding Customs ....BIKAREANCHEM JEVONN...IV
In a message dated 04/30/2002 8:26:16 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The intention behind the service is to remember and pray for the dead ancestors (also masses are offered for the souls of the dead ancestors, close relatives of the family and even the old deceased faithful servant of the family) on this important occasion of their house, through the medium of these beggars representing them, the needy Dear Fr. Nascimento: Your recordation of such historical facts is truly a tribute and honour to our Proud Goan Heritage :-) We have vivid memories of a similar ceremony in Karachi, on the actual Wedding Day, when the married Goan couple would go outside with a bottle of fine Scotch Whiskey or other liquor. The bottle would then be broken in the compound, as I understood, to appease the souls of their beloved dead. We too followed it. Your labour of love in documenting these customs definitely helps develop a keen awareness, especially among some who have lost touch with reality, of these rich and noble traditions. Our colourful heritage is fraught with rich and noble sentiments! I couldn't but shudder when a local priest in our parish dared preach from the pulpit about the antiquity of feeding the beggars. He expressed doubts if anyone these days would condescend to such customs. Ah, the difference between East and West :( Back in Karachi, Thursdays (Juma-raat), or the night before Friday, beggars would converge around shops and homes. And yes, many of them were treated by honest locals to similar bikareanchem jevonn :-) Many thanks, Fr. Nascimento, for these inspirational postings. We will pray for your good health. Blessings. Clare Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Rules and Regulations
In a message dated 04/29/2002 11:41:27 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Netters - I've been remiss in reminding you all of GoaNet's Rules and Regulations. Please read them and follow them - they are few and reasonable. Thanks - Viviana Yes, Thanks - Viviana! Better Late Than Never :-) And do keep that club handy! I for one was frustrated with those cross-postings which hogged the bandwidth and from a few publicity hounds :( Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA PS: Remember the good old folks literally riddling people through with their riddles. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] COLOUR OF GOAN MANGOES
No problem about the explanation offered by you: it is plausible, yes, although I don't believe that the yellow colour (as opposed to the red one) has anything to do with it. It is quite amusing that so many of our Goans are engrossed in the correct name and colour of our favourite Goan Mangoes. The reality is that, the Goan Mangoes have almost turned Saffron colour. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Why women cry
What a beautiful message this is. I have sent it to some of my friends. Thanks to Eddie for sending it. Cheers, Sunila From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Why women cry Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:23:13 +0300 Dear Friends, Here's another one for Mothers day Why are you crying, a young boy asked his Mom? Because I'm a woman, she told him. I don't understand, he said His Mom just hugged him and said, And you never will, but that's O.K.. Later the little boy asked his father, Why does Mom seem to cry for no reason?. All women cry for no reason, was all his Dad could say.. The little boy grew up and became a man, still wondering why women cry. Finally he put in a call to God and when God got back to him, he asked God, why do women cry so easily? GOD answered. When I made woman, I decided she had to be special. I made her shoulders strong enough to carry the weight of the world, yet, made her arms gentle enough to give comfort.. I gave her the inner strength to endure childbirth and rejection and the rejection that many times will come even from her own children. I gave her hardness that allows her to keep going and take care of her family and friends, even when everyone else gives up, through sickness and fatigue without complaining. I gave her the sensitivity to love her children under any and all circumstances. Even when her child has hurt her badly.. She has the very special power to make a child's boo-boo feel better and to quell a teenager's anxieties and fears. I gave her strength to care for her husband, despite faults and I fashioned her from his rib to protect his heart. I gave her wisdom to know that a good husband never hurts his wife, but sometimes tests her strengths and her resolve to stand beside him unfalteringly.. For all of this hard work, I also gave her a tear to shed. It is hers to use whenever needed and ! it is her only weakness When you see her cry, tell her how much you love her, and all she does for everyone, and even though she may still cry, you will have made her heart feel good. She is special! Let your mother, sister, women friend know this and also men so they will understand about what a wonderful thing a woman is. Each day is a mountain that must be climbed; with courage each step gets easier. Love your Mother Always and keep her Smiling!!! Eddie Verdes Saudi Arabia _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
