Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
A message from William - I d like to share - as we are on the subject of RELIGION . and message to all Goans. We should all think GOAN rather than RELIGION. Lets not make GOA another Gujarat .we may if we are not too careful. rene - Original Message - From: William Robert Da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:47 AM message - WORLD GOADAY 2002 Goa World Day 2002 comes after 9-11 and 10.7 two fundamentalisms at war with each other. Goa World Day needs to focus on Goa and what is happening to it--the various political, religious and cultural forces that enrich it, exploit it and fragment it. This is the right time to think over what shape is Goa of the future? Thinking of Goa World Day is Think about Goa in 2002. William - Original Message - From: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. Cheers, Sunila =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] GUJARAT HAS SEALED PARRIKARâS FATE
It is sad that such an ugly thing like the Gujarat violence had to occur. But, it has certainly opened our eyes to see clearly what the BJP party can provide this country with. While the whole world is progressing in various fields, our country is sinking deeper into political quicksand and crawls on its fours over religious issues. It is so embarassing to see our politicians on TV commenting on other parties - blaming, accusing, abusing etc. It is hard to see one politician talking about the country's growth! They fight and argue like a bunch of hyena's would for a piece of meat! Is it such a tough job to serve the people? I really wonder. ash k __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Re: MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
In a message dated 05/19/2002 5:15:08 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! Date: 05/19/2002 5:15:08 AM EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sunila Muzawar) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. Cheers, Sunila From: ash k [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 02:15:11 -0700 (PDT) To all Goans: Vote for BJP and give up your RELIGION! ash Dear Netters: Please excuse the presentation of the entire above post and my following response: Subj: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! -- RELIGION V/S ANIMISM SURVEY Date: 05/20/2002 To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A, A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A In a message dated 05/19/2002 5:15:08 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. In response to the above, I humbly submit: What doth it profit a (wo)man if (s)he gains the whole world, but suffers the loss of his/her soul? There is no point in trying to twist Ash's poignant prophesy for any generalizations. Religion (from 'religare') is designed to bind us back from jungle rule. IMHO, without religion, Goans would fit the computer prompt of Goons :( I would like to initiate a survey of all Goanetters on the following question: Are you for or against religion? Let us plan to close this survey at midnight, Friday, May 31, 2002. Hopefully some computer wizard will volunteer to tabulate and provide the results :-) Viva Goa, Viva Goacom! Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA I don't know about you, but I received three copies of this May 20 posting between 4:43:08 and 4:43:25 AM EST, probably intended as votes: Subj:Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! -- RELIGION V/S ANIMISM SURVEY Date: 05/20/2002 4:43:08 AM EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sunila Muzawar) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! -- RELIGION V/S ANIMISM SURVEY Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:50:22 EDT In response to the above, I humbly submit: What doth it profit a (wo)man if (s)he gains the whole world, but suffers the loss of his/her soul? There is no point in trying to twist Ash's poignant prophesy for any generalizations. Religion (from 'religare') is designed to bind us back from jungle rule. IMHO, without religion, Goans would fit the computer prompt of Goons :( Speak for yourself if you like. To generalise with all Goans is to insult their sensibilities terribly. Additionally, please note that the North West of Pakistan actually follows organised religion to the T and are famous for jungle rule or tribal law. Incidentally it is believed that the evil one - Osama is currently in hiding there. And the current barbarism we see emanating out of Pakistan is also a product of organised religion. And Buddha actually went to the jungles to meditate and get enlightened. If all were like Buddha then violence would not have any place in the world.so jungles are not that bad after all. :-) And don't forget that it is in the name of organised religion that the the Church murdered millions and rendered thousands homeless in their quest to convert Goans to Christianity. And it is the efforts of the VHP to actually make Hinduism into an organised religion which is resulting in the current Hindu militancy and violence. And how can I forget to mention the current ogre of Islamic terrorism...I won't bother with details. Incidentally if you think religion made anyone civilized there is enough proof to link it with the worst barbarism in the world. It is education, culture, human values, and society which makes one civilised. Simply going to a church or temple and following priests blindly (even though they may be paedophiles or drug addicts) does not make one civilized or get one out of the jungle mentality. In fact, it is the other way round. If you actually look at the custodians of organised religion you will find a whole horde of perverts ranging from paedophiles and child/female abusers to drug addicts to violence recommenders to revenge
goanet-digest V1 #4000
goanet-digest Wednesday, May 22 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4000 - In this issue: RE: [Goanet] Vedas, Antibiotics, etc [Goanet] From: Monte De Guirim - Ex-Students - Toronto Chapter [Goanet] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Goanet] GUJARAT HAS SEALED =?utf-8?q?PARRIKAR=E2=80=99S?= FATE Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 09:00:48 +0400 From: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet] Vedas, Antibiotics, etc Cip, your message is beautiful. And to answer your question. Yes I do pray. I believe in God. I love Jesus. I love Krishna. I love Allah. And I love Buddha. And I believe they are all the same. What I don't love and don't believe in is orgnaised religion which means the religious organisations/priests/etc. that pretend to propagate religion which is supposed to be the teachings of Jesus, Krishna, etc. These teachings do not differ in any way from each other. However, what organised religion actually propagates is communal divide, terrorism, violence, strife and superiority complexes. I certainly don't believe in that. Cheers, Sunila From: C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED], Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet] Vedas, Antibiotics, etc Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:31:28 +0100 I wonder if Sunila, James and Santosh ever PRAY? If You PRAY, You will have FAITH, And if You have FAITH, You will LOVE, And if You LOVE, You will SERVE, And if You SERVE, You will have PEACE. -Mother Teresa _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:08:14 +0200 From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] From: Monte De Guirim - Ex-Students - Toronto Chapter From: Monte De Guirim - Ex-Students - Toronto Chapter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Monte De Guirim Reunion ! Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:01:58 -0400 MONTE DE GUIRIM, EX-STUDENTS (TORONTO CHAPTER) INVITATION TO THE EIGHT ANNUAL REUNION ON SUNDAY JUNE 9, 2002 The Ex-Students Association - Toronto Chapter of St. Anthony's High School, Monte De Guirim, Goa is pleased to invite all alumni and their brethren, friends and family to their eight annual gala lunch dance to be held at Sangeet Banquet hall, 181 Rexdale Boulevard, Etobicoke, Ontario. Feast Mass in honour of St. Anthony will be celebrated at 11 AM and will be followed by our traditional Goan festive celebrations. A live band ad DJ will be in attendance. Indian buffet lunch will be served accompanied by Sorpotel. Prizes and surprises galore. Please contact President of the Social Committee, Felix Colaco for further details and tickets at (905)509 9294, (416)983 9694 and (416) 399 5074 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond as soon as possible if you will be attending. Thank you. -- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:11:37 +0200 From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 01:28:14 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Article sent from The Hindu = This article has been sent to you by Rohit ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) = Source: thThe Hindu (http://www.hinduonnet.com/2002/05/10/stories/2002051002041200.htm) Opinion News Analysis Golwalkar and the BJP By Neena Vyas NEW DELHI MAY 9. The Prime Minister, Atal Behari Vajpayee, virtually disowned the pro-Hitler views expressed by guruji M.S. Golwalkar, a former `sarsanghchalak' of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, in the Rajya Sabha on May 6, but did not explain why in almost every office of the Bharatiya Janata Party, and now, in several ministerial offices at the Centre (including Parliament House), his portraits hang alongside those of Mahatma Gandhi and B.R. Ambedkar. After all, German Government offices today surely do not hang portraits of Hitler nor does the BJP decorate its offices with pictures of Osama bin Laden. The fact is that both Mr. Vajpayee and the Union Home Minister, L.K. Advani, grew up at the feet of guruji who is still revered as the most influential of all RSS heads who gave the organisation #151; and the BJP, the political arm of the RSS #151; its
[Goanet] Holiday Special of the Goan Review
Holiday Special issue of The Goan Review hits the stands The May-June 2002 (Holiday Special) issue of the Konkani-English bi-monthly magazine The Goan Review has hit the stands. Besides the regular features - Goa News Round Up, Spotlight, News Digest, Drama Review, Poetry etc. this issue carries a special feature on Fortresses of Goa, Baths worth their Salt and Beaches outside Goa. It also has the thought provoking article in Konkani - Eleisanvancho Zor (editorial), Goenchem Konknni Songit (Felicio Cardozo), Faleam Ken'nach Ieunchem na (Rio Rosa), Kistikoronn ani Igorzo (Moreno De Souza), Mogak ani Moipasak Axelelim - a report of GRAF's visit to St. Anthony's Home for the Aged by Flora Lobo and an interview of Francis Fernandes Cascia - the renowned dramatist of the Mangalorean's stage. For details and subscribing contact: 263 0139, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #4001
goanet-digest Wednesday, May 22 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4001 - In this issue: Re: [Goanet] GUJARAT HAS SEALED PARRIKARâS FATE [Goanet] Re: MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! [Goanet] Do these lessons ring a bell See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 23:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: ash k [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] GUJARAT HAS SEALED PARRIKARâS FATE It is sad that such an ugly thing like the Gujarat violence had to occur. But, it has certainly opened our eyes to see clearly what the BJP party can provide this country with. While the whole world is progressing in various fields, our country is sinking deeper into political quicksand and crawls on its fours over religious issues. It is so embarassing to see our politicians on TV commenting on other parties - blaming, accusing, abusing etc. It is hard to see one politician talking about the country's growth! They fight and argue like a bunch of hyena's would for a piece of meat! Is it such a tough job to serve the people? I really wonder. ash k __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com -- Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 02:51:52 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Re: MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! In a message dated 05/19/2002 5:15:08 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! Date: 05/19/2002 5:15:08 AM EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sunila Muzawar) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. Cheers, Sunila From: ash k [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 02:15:11 -0700 (PDT) To all Goans: Vote for BJP and give up your RELIGION! ash Dear Netters: Please excuse the presentation of the entire above post and my following response: Subj: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! -- RELIGION V/S ANIMISM SURVEY Date: 05/20/2002 To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A, A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A To: A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A In a message dated 05/19/2002 5:15:08 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. In response to the above, I humbly submit: What doth it profit a (wo)man if (s)he gains the whole world, but suffers the loss of his/her soul? There is no point in trying to twist Ash's poignant prophesy for any generalizations. Religion (from 'religare') is designed to bind us back from jungle rule. IMHO, without religion, Goans would fit the computer prompt of Goons :( I would like to initiate a survey of all Goanetters on the following question: Are you for or against religion? Let us plan to close this survey at midnight, Friday, May 31, 2002. Hopefully some computer wizard will volunteer to tabulate and provide the results :-) Viva Goa, Viva Goacom! Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA I don't know about you, but I received three copies of this May 20 posting between 4:43:08 and 4:43:25 AM EST, probably intended as votes: Subj:Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! -- RELIGION V/S ANIMISM SURVEY Date: 05/20/2002 4:43:08 AM EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sunila Muzawar) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! -- RELIGION V/S ANIMISM SURVEY Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:50:22 EDT In response to the above, I humbly submit: What doth it profit a (wo)man if (s)he gains the whole world, but suffers the loss of his/her soul? There is no point in trying to twist Ash's poignant prophesy for any generalizations. Religion (from 'religare') is designed to bind us back from jungle rule. IMHO, without religion, Goans would fit the computer prompt of Goons :( Speak for yourself if you like. To generalise with all Goans is to insult their sensibilities terribly. Additionally, please note that the North West of Pakistan actually follows organised religion to the T and are famous
[Goanet] mentor \MEN-tor or MEN-ter\
Perhaps we could make use of the giant pool of skills available among Goans (both in Goa and overseas) to build up a mentorship network. FN -- Forwarded message -- The Word of the Day for May 22 is: mentor \MEN-tor or MEN-ter\ (noun) 1 capitalized : a friend of Odysseus entrusted with the education of Odysseus' son Telemachus 2 *a : a trusted counselor or guide b : tutor, coach Example sentence: Ms. Ryan was the sort of selfless, dedicated mentor that every high school graduate recalls with great fondness. Did you know? We acquired mentor from the literature of ancient Greece. In Homer's epic _The Odyssey_, Odysseus was away from home fighting and journeying for 20 years. During that time, Telemachus, the son he left as a babe in arms, grew up under the supervision of Mentor, an old and trusted friend. When the goddess Athena decided it was time to complete the education of young Telemachus, she visited him disguised as Mentor and they set out together to learn about his father. Today, we use the word mentor for anyone who is a positive, guiding influence in another (usually younger) person's life. *Indicates the sense illustrated in the example sentence. Brought to you by Merriam-Webster, Inc. http://www.Merriam-Webster.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] ONLINE SEARCH: Sal of Calcutta (Kolkata)
My friend Joshua Saldanha is searching for some relatives in Calcutta. Any help that could be given would be much appreciated. FN Second here are sketchy details of my lost family branch in Calcutta, could you please help me in locating them. My Dad's late uncle Joaquim Saldanha, commonly known as Sal. Played all instruments,including the sax. He was a music teacher at Frank Anthony Public School, Calcutta. He was married to Ella ( half Burmase, half British ), she was a school teacher. As far as I know she is still alive. He had five children ie my Dad's first cousins: Julian Saldanha - was a great Sax player,well known in Cal. Celine Twins - Laurel and Hardy ( yah believe it or not yah wot names, wot a great uncle i must have had ). 1 more daughter or son, not sure of the gender. Some of the childeren ie Dad's cousins may have migrated to Canada. But my grand aunt ( Ella ) is still in Cal. Her actual name is Cindrella, but everyone calls her Ella. Lived on Princept street ( not sure of the spelling,yah with my great Kenyan prouncation ). But that's in central cal. Think Aunty Ella moved to Lower Circus street. They had a famous band in the 70's known as Sals, play for weddings and all. This picked up from a Kenyan friend who studied medicine in Cal in the 70's. Sorry that's all I have on them Frederick. Know the matter is sketchy but hope you can find them out ok. Sorry for all the trouble am putting you into finding them. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #4002
goanet-digest Wednesday, May 22 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4002 - In this issue: [Goanet] Holiday Special of the Goan Review [Goanet] Architect Dean D'Cruz to speak at FRIDAY BALCAO on 24th May. [Goanet] NEWS: Goa watched by nation as small state's polls near... [Goanet] ONLINE SEARCH: Sal of Calcutta (Kolkata) See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 23:16:20 +0530 From: fausto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Holiday Special of the Goan Review Holiday Special issue of The Goan Review hits the stands The May-June 2002 (Holiday Special) issue of the Konkani-English bi-monthly magazine The Goan Review has hit the stands. Besides the regular features - Goa News Round Up, Spotlight, News Digest, Drama Review, Poetry etc. this issue carries a special feature on Fortresses of Goa, Baths worth their Salt and Beaches outside Goa. It also has the thought provoking article in Konkani - Eleisanvancho Zor (editorial), Goenchem Konknni Songit (Felicio Cardozo), Faleam Ken'nach Ieunchem na (Rio Rosa), Kistikoronn ani Igorzo (Moreno De Souza), Mogak ani Moipasak Axelelim - a report of GRAF's visit to St. Anthony's Home for the Aged by Flora Lobo and an interview of Francis Fernandes Cascia - the renowned dramatist of the Mangalorean's stage. For details and subscribing contact: 263 0139, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:32:52 +0530 From: Goa Desc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Architect Dean D'Cruz to speak at FRIDAY BALCAO on 24th May. - --- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO - --- Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, Friday Balcao the fortnightly discussion event to be held on 24th May will feature a presentation by Architect Dean D'Cruz on his experiences as an architect in dealing with issues affecting Goa. Dean D'Cruz an architect with 18 years experience is well known for his unique architectural styles all over Goa. He has made a significant contribution to social causes in Goa especially in environmental protection, conservation of Goa's heritage and alternate perspectives in town country planning. At the Friday Balcao Dean D'Cruz will share his experiences on the Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) guidelines, the challenge of incorporating environmental protection in construction plans, protection of 'open spaces' in village and town areas, maintainence of natural springs and protection of other water sources and dealing with the menace of excessive hoardings along the roads in Goa. Friday Balcao will be from 4pm to 6pm at the Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11 Liberty Apartments Feira Alta, Mapusa and is open to members of the public. Those citizens who would like to receive the regular invitation to Friday Balcao and a one page synopsis of the fortnightly session can subscribe for the same by sending Rs.65/- to cover printing and mailing costs. Interested citizens wanting more information on Friday Balcao can phone on 252660 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Lillian D'Costa. - FRIDAY BALCAO BOOKLET :Now available for RS.70/- only Buy your personal copy and gift one to your relatives, neighbours and friends. The information handbook that is a must in every Goan home. - -- Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 15:10:01 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] NEWS: Goa watched by nation as small state's polls near... Goa watched by nation as small state's polls near, voters seem disinterested By Frederick Noronha PANAJI (Goa), May 22: For a change, the small state of Goa is in the focus of political watchers across India. But interest in the home state is itself at a low-ebb among the 913,000 odd voters eligible to vote in the May 30 elections. Defections, the lack of ideology, political corruption, and a BJP government which lasted 16 months in power mainly on the numbers of MLAs elected to power as Congressmen has contributed to the cynicism among the average voter. Smaller regional parties -- like the MGP-UGDP alliance, and the Goa Suraj Party -- show little signs of being able to take on the clout, organisational skills and money-power of bigger national parties. BJP and Congress are the main contestants for power. But the Nationalist Congress Party and the Shiv Sena could play the role of major spoilers and upset the results in some constituencies. Goa's 40-seat legislative assembly goes in for mid-term elections, after it was dissolved prematurely in end-February on the
Re: [Goanet] Dr. Ismael Gracias / Uma Dona Portuguesa ...
ricardo nunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: [Goanet] Dr. Ismael Gracias / Uma Dona Portuguesa ... I would like to have a copy of the book written by the late Dr. Ismael Gracias about the Portuguese lady (Juliana) who was an ancestor of the Begums of Bhopal - Uma Dona Portuguesa na Corte do Grão Mogol I would be very grateful if anyone could help me finding a place to buy the book. Many thanks and regards, Ricardo Nunes Dear Ricardo, I spoke to one of the heirs of Dr. Ismael Gracias and he told me that Dr. Ismael carried with him all his collections of books, stamps, etc. when he moved from Goa to Portugal but later on he returned many of his books (including the one in which you are interested) to Goa and offered them to the Xavier Centre of Historical Research (XCHR), Alto de Porvorim. The book, according to him, is no longer on sale anywhere but I suppose that XCHR might be prepared to provide a xerox copy of the same. (In fact, I myself would be interested in one and I shall try to obtain it the next time I visit Goa). Best regards. Jorge de Abreu Noronha =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Re: MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
Paddy - Great survey. BUT... How do you define RELIGION for the purposes of this survey? It might help people to answer if they knew EXACTLY what you mean. Viv (definitely FOR religion) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to initiate a survey of all Goanetters on the following question: Are you for or against religion? Let us plan to close this survey at midnight, Friday, May 31, 2002. Hopefully some computer wizard will volunteer to tabulate and provide the results :-) Viva Goa, Viva Goacom! Pat de Sousa Maryland, USA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] 10QUESTIONS: Minorities totally exploited by Goa's political parties
TEN QUESTIONS: MINORITIES TOTALLY EXPLOITED BY GOA'S POLITICAL PARTIES-Soter D'Souza TILL A FEW days back, Porvorim-based Soter D'Souza (42) was the general secretary of the BJP's Minority Morcha, the 'minority' front of Goa's ruling party. In a chat with FREDERICK NORONHA, he explains why he quit the post, just before a critical Goa elections. FN: What prompted you to quit the BJP and it Minority Morcha? Minories were not being taken seriously. All the more, the Gujarat riots and certain local incidents (not just the Socorro Muslim prayer hall arson but two other unreported incidents) had led me to review my relations with the BJP. FN: What led you to join it in 1998? The failure of the Congress, both nationally and locally, created a void. I came in contact with (Goa chief minister) Manohar Parrikar and getting to know his vision and attributes. I saw some hope for Goa and Goans. FN: How would you rate Parrikar today? I still feel he has administrative abilities and discipline. But certain compulsions of politics perhaps influenced his decision-making process. The zeal with which he started his tenure, specially his fight against corruption and other illegalities, has almost died out. FN: Looking back, what was the BJP's main achivements and failures in this period? Initially, the BJP was able to show that corruption could be curtailed. Discipline in government administration was another plus. Even the Dayanand Social Security Scheme was a good venture, but it was stretched too much for political reasons. On the other hand, the drive against corruption was not total, leading people to feel that only political opponents were targetted. Instead of contempt for the corrupt politicians, people started sympathising with them. There was not enough effort to break the communal or fundamental image that has been painted of the BJP by the Opposition. In fact, certain incidents have only further substantiated this. FN: In your view, how should the BJP be dealing with the minorities? Unless the BJP seriously reviews its opinions and approaches towards all sections of the minorities, then it cannot be trusted. FN: What is your view of communalism within the minorities? Actually, I do not favour a thinking based on minority lines. It not only sends out a wrong signal, but is also a sort of an inferiority lable. It acts as a means for certain politicians to corner votes. On the other hand, it is also for the majority community to give up their attempts to form communal cliques. It's a two way process; when minorities feel secure, that's the time they will maybe change. FN: As someone who studied for priesthood, what do you feel should be the role of priests, when it comes to politics? A priest should not impose his ideas. Whatever evolves from the democratic process, he should learn to accept it. They should also encourage voters to support good, efficient and sincere candidates, regardless of religious affiliation. Some priests lack in exposure to the feelings and thinking of the majority community. FN: What do you see as in store for the BJP in Goa? If the BJP does not do serious soul-searching to recognise its shortcomings, they're heading towards political rejection. If they do seriously review their strategies and ideologies, they could still hold promise to this state and the country because of their work ethics, discipline and cadre. FN: What's the involvement of minorities in politics in Goa today? The minorities in Goa are totally divided. As a result they have been exploited by political parties. They have allowed themselves to be taken for granted. Many decisions taken by the minorites too might have not been rational, but emotional. Any alternative in Goa should not be built on majority-minority lines. The times require all peace-loving Goans -- from whatever community -- to come together and prevent disruptive forces from getting hold of the political and social fabric. FN: Your reading of the Gujarat carnage on the Goa polls? Although some political parties claim the Gujarat riots will not have an impact on the election results, I beg to differ. The nervourness from some quarters is forcing them to involve Section 153(A) of the IPC to stop filming of certain video-cassettes (about the anti-Muslim violence in Gujarat). It is enough proof that what happened in Gujarat will influence the voter of all communities, cutting across religion and caste. I would not be surprised if a Gujarat-type situation occurs in Goa, and certain statements of inciting of communal disturbances is pointing towards that, while blaming it on the Congress.(ENDS)
[Goanet] Cip's Mother Teresa quote
Cip Fernandes wrote: If You PRAY, You will have FAITH, And if You have FAITH, You will LOVE, And if You LOVE, You will SERVE, And if You SERVE, You will have PEACE. -Mother Teresa Thanks, Cip. I don't think I have read better practical advice for living. Hopefully I can learn from such advice. Off for a few days now (everyone bring out the feni and celebrate). Joel Almeida __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
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[Goanet] danger in Goa?
Folks, Took my usual evening walk on Benaulim beach. The sea has roughed up a lot, which is understandable, considering that the monsoon is just 2 weeks away. While watching all those children having a good time, there were signs that all is not so well. At sunset, 2 Tu-142 maritime patrol aircraft of the Navy flew in from westward heading for Dabolim. This has been going on for some days. We are in the frontline for maritime recconaissance, and I can imagine that aircraft flying out of Goa have been tracking Pakistani ships and littoral spaces. With tension and rhetoric building up on the subcontinent, one may well ask whether it is risky living in Goa in case of an all out war with Pakistan. The good news is that Goa is out of range of any PAF fighter or bomber, unless they have air to air refuelling capability, which I doubt. The other good news is that Goa does not present a viable nuclear target --no worthwhile population or industrial density. So let Amritsar and Delhi sweat, we can continue walking the beaches =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] 10QUESTIONS: Minorities totally exploited by Goa's political parties
Thank you, Fred, for that enlightening piece. Keep up the good work! I hope the interview with Soter is given sufficient publicity to warn the Goan people. Manohar Parrikar is a snake in the grass and is no different from Mr. Modi of the Gujarat genocide fame. Goans BEWARE OF THE SANGH PARIVAR! The writing is indeed on the wall: FN: Your reading of the Gujarat carnage on the Goa polls? Although some political parties claim the Gujarat riots will not have an impact on the election results, I beg to differ. The nervourness from some quarters is forcing them to involve Section 153(A) of the IPC to stop filming of certain video-cassettes (about the anti-Muslim violence in Gujarat). It is enough proof that what happened in Gujarat will influence the voter of all communities, cutting across religion and caste. I would not be surprised if a Gujarat-type situation occurs in Goa, and certain statements of inciting of communal disturbances is pointing towards that, while blaming it on the Congress.(ENDS) === On Tue, 21 May 2002 Frederick Noronha wrote : TEN QUESTIONS: MINORITIES TOTALLY EXPLOITED BY GOA'S POLITICAL PARTIES-Soter D'Souza TILL A FEW days back, Porvorim-based Soter D'Souza (42) was the general secretary of the BJP's Minority Morcha, the 'minority' front of Goa's ruling party. In a chat with FREDERICK NORONHA, he explains why he quit the post, just before a critical Goa elections. FN: What prompted you to quit the BJP and it Minority Morcha? _ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #4004
goanet-digest Wednesday, May 22 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4004 - In this issue: [Goanet] 10QUESTIONS: Minorities totally exploited by Goa's political parties [Goanet] Cip's Mother Teresa quote [Goanet] [Fwd: Treasure House of India's Culture, Art and Heritage!] [Goanet] danger in Goa? Re: [Goanet] 10QUESTIONS: Minorities totally exploited by Goa's political parties See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:48:02 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] 10QUESTIONS: Minorities totally exploited by Goa's political parties TEN QUESTIONS: MINORITIES TOTALLY EXPLOITED BY GOA'S POLITICAL PARTIES-Soter D'Souza TILL A FEW days back, Porvorim-based Soter D'Souza (42) was the general secretary of the BJP's Minority Morcha, the 'minority' front of Goa's ruling party. In a chat with FREDERICK NORONHA, he explains why he quit the post, just before a critical Goa elections. FN: What prompted you to quit the BJP and it Minority Morcha? Minories were not being taken seriously. All the more, the Gujarat riots and certain local incidents (not just the Socorro Muslim prayer hall arson but two other unreported incidents) had led me to review my relations with the BJP. FN: What led you to join it in 1998? The failure of the Congress, both nationally and locally, created a void. I came in contact with (Goa chief minister) Manohar Parrikar and getting to know his vision and attributes. I saw some hope for Goa and Goans. FN: How would you rate Parrikar today? I still feel he has administrative abilities and discipline. But certain compulsions of politics perhaps influenced his decision-making process. The zeal with which he started his tenure, specially his fight against corruption and other illegalities, has almost died out. FN: Looking back, what was the BJP's main achivements and failures in this period? Initially, the BJP was able to show that corruption could be curtailed. Discipline in government administration was another plus. Even the Dayanand Social Security Scheme was a good venture, but it was stretched too much for political reasons. On the other hand, the drive against corruption was not total, leading people to feel that only political opponents were targetted. Instead of contempt for the corrupt politicians, people started sympathising with them. There was not enough effort to break the communal or fundamental image that has been painted of the BJP by the Opposition. In fact, certain incidents have only further substantiated this. FN: In your view, how should the BJP be dealing with the minorities? Unless the BJP seriously reviews its opinions and approaches towards all sections of the minorities, then it cannot be trusted. FN: What is your view of communalism within the minorities? Actually, I do not favour a thinking based on minority lines. It not only sends out a wrong signal, but is also a sort of an inferiority lable. It acts as a means for certain politicians to corner votes. On the other hand, it is also for the majority community to give up their attempts to form communal cliques. It's a two way process; when minorities feel secure, that's the time they will maybe change. FN: As someone who studied for priesthood, what do you feel should be the role of priests, when it comes to politics? A priest should not impose his ideas. Whatever evolves from the democratic process, he should learn to accept it. They should also encourage voters to support good, efficient and sincere candidates, regardless of religious affiliation. Some priests lack in exposure to the feelings and thinking of the majority community. FN: What do you see as in store for the BJP in Goa? If the BJP does not do serious soul-searching to recognise its shortcomings, they're heading towards political rejection. If they do seriously review their strategies and ideologies, they could still hold promise to this state and the country because of their work ethics, discipline and cadre. FN: What's the involvement of minorities in politics in Goa today? The minorities in Goa are totally divided. As a result they have been exploited by political parties. They have allowed themselves to be taken for granted. Many decisions taken by the minorites too might have not been rational, but emotional. Any alternative in Goa should not be built on majority-minority lines. The times require all peace-loving Goans -- from whatever community -- to come together and prevent disruptive
[Goanet] NEWS: Kanwal Rekhi hits out at Gujarat intolerance
Kanwal Rekhi hits out at Gujarat intolerance By Ela Dutt, Indo-Asian News Service New York, May 22 (IANS) Kanwal Rekhi, the millionaire Silicon Valley entrepreneur, has lashed out at sectarian violence in India that has raised serious questions about the nation's future and its time-honoured secular philosophy. Rekhi, in a column in the Wall Street Journal along with Professor Emeritus of Stanford Henry Rowen, said the severity of the Gujarat communal killings had not yet been highlighted in the American media, but the Indian government's response has begun to raise questions about the character of the world's largest democracy. The handling of the Gujarat riots has shaken the faith of large segments of the population in India's future as a polity that cares for all its citizens, the article said. India is being provoked by Pakistan-based terrorists, but its failure to protect innocent Muslims at home weakens the government both domestically and internationally, Rekhi and Rowen contended. America has come to understand the imperatives of even-handed treatment for its citizens. Until India does so, the people of the world's second-largest democracy (U.S.) will be unable to accord the world's largest democracy the respect that many of us would like to see it deserve, they said. Rekhi and Rowen noted that neither Vajpayee nor Home Minister L.K. Advani had condemned the violence and only stated platitudes, and that the prime minister had actually castigated Muslims around the world as being unable to live in harmony. Unlike President George Bush, who after September 11 went to a mosque and severely condemned any effort to threaten law and order, neither Vajpayee nor Advani has visited a mosque, and neither visited Gujarat during the initial phase of the riots, the two emphasised. Apart from the communal frenzy that took the life of around 950 people, mainly Muslims, in Gujarat, the mounting refugee problem and filthy camps are adding to the image of inaction, the two wrote. During the weeks after riots began in Ahmedabad, the government has conspicuously failed to enforce the law, according to Rekhi and Rowen who echo what the Indian media, human rights groups around the world as well as the European Union have highlighted. The state of things is not because of the state's inability to protect its citizens, but because the Gujarat government's implicit support of rioters and shrugging off the plight of the refugees, the authors pointed out. If anything, the local government's attitude has shifted from lack of interest in its minority citizens before the riots to active hostility afterwards. The atmosphere is such that a state minister in Ahmedabad asked the government to move the victims' camp because it makes his Hindu constituents feel insecure, the column said. While Chief Minister Narendra Modi may be saying things are in control, the police chief in Ahmedabad said his policemen favour rioters who are Hindus. The two also named an Indian bureaucrat who described the Gujarat riots as a state-sponsored pogrom. They attributed Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's inaction to the fact that the Gujarat government is a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government, or to the fear that a more rightwing government may come in place if Modi is removed. The Modi government must be removed, and the state should be brought under central control, after which the police force must be replaced with a relatively unbiased army that could enforce the law impartially, the authors contended. Many overseas Indian Hindus donate money to causes in India that they think will help build temples and educate and feed the poor, Rekhi said. Many would be appalled to know that some recipients of their money are out to destroy minorities (Christians as well as Muslims) and their places of worship. Vajpayee could deal a severe blow to such covert causes by simply labelling them as terrorists. --Indo-Asian News Service =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
RE: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
Why we should NOT think as 'Human Beings' rather than GOANS? Cip Fernandes UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of rene barreto Sent: 22 May 2002 15:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! A message from William - I d like to share - as we are on the subject of RELIGION . and message to all Goans. We should all think GOAN rather than RELIGION. Lets not make GOA another Gujarat .we may if we are not too careful. rene - Original Message - From: William Robert Da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:47 AM message - WORLD GOADAY 2002 Goa World Day 2002 comes after 9-11 and 10.7 two fundamentalisms at war with each other. Goa World Day needs to focus on Goa and what is happening to it--the various political, religious and cultural forces that enrich it, exploit it and fragment it. This is the right time to think over what shape is Goa of the future? Thinking of Goa World Day is Think about Goa in 2002. William - Original Message - From: Sunila Muzawar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting ! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health, sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit. Cheers, Sunila =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] GUJARAT HAS SEALED PARRIKARâS FATE
In a message dated 05/22/2002 1:27:12 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is sad that such an ugly thing like the Gujarat violence had to occur. But, it has certainly opened our eyes to see clearly what the BJP party can provide this country with. While the whole world is progressing in various fields, our country is sinking deeper into political quicksand and crawls on its fours over religious issues. Very sound advice to the astute and those with discerning minds :-) Yet some people with vested interests will blindly keep drumming up their support in a wild and desperate attempt to hoodwink all Goans :( It remind us of those three blind persons who felt different parts of the elephant and came up totally divergent views. The latest truncated view -- just because some good came out lately from the BJP -- that all will be hunky-dory dory, is fatalistic. We all know how politicians and sexual perverts entice people with their little bags of goodies, only to later to reveal the real big cork screw. Goans should awaken to the clarion call from minarets to pulpits, Balcaos to Cyberia and be aware of wolves who prey in sheep's clothing. Surely nobody would like to retrograde to the dark old ages, reminiscent of jungle rule :( As Rene said in the following post: Let's not make GOA another Gujarat. The next message from our enlightened Aires said it all: Parrikar is desperately trying all stunts to try and woo voters to salvage the sinking BJP shipParrikar who is fighting a battle for his survival. is offering all sorts of carrots to buy the minorities. Joe Vaz's May 7 posting: 'YOUR ACTION CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE,' was most apropos and an early wake-up or clarion call :-) My response somehow did not post. The writing is on the wall, even though one may have to read in between the lines. Let us not fall for the political shenanigan -- Parrikar's Pranks :( Vote to represent the plurality of Goa and NOT for Communalism! Keep Goa and India secular: Pat de Sousa =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] NEWS: Gujarat carnage video screening prompts govt action in Goa
GUJARAT CARNAGE VIDEO-CASSETTE SCREENING PROMPTS GOVERNMENT ACTION IN GOA From Frederick Noronha PANAJI, May 22: Gujarat cast its long shadow over the Goa elections, with the BJP chief minister of the state, Manohar Parrikar, threatening action against those screening videotapes on the carnage in that city. Goa goes to the polls on May 30. Anti-communalism campaigners have been showing the violence wreaked, allegedly with the complicity or involvement of the Sangh Parivar. Many of the screenshots show victims blaming the BJP and its allies for the violence. In recent weeks, anti-communalism campaigners in Goa had taken forward the drive to highlight the havoc caused by religious bigotry and intolerance in Gujarat, and Congressmen apparently found this material just grist for their party campaign mill, particularly in the minority areas of Goa. Chief minister Parrikar, a self-acknowledged RSS member, came down hard on those screening the video tapes on Gujarat, which he claimed was being done with the intention of inciting communal violence in the state. In another development, the Cuncolim police from South Goa speedily seized the video cassettes at what they described as an unauthorised meeting. Officials charged that the no prior permissions has been taken for the screening, and questioned whether the video promotes communal tension or not. Strangely, the films being shown in the state were by Delhi-based scientist Gauhar Raza (45), whose 'Junoon ke Badhte Kadaam' (Evil Stalks The Land) is his 12th in a series of films, with his earlier themes mainly centering around science and technology. Raza was also in town recently, and spoke emotionally about the impact of the Gujarat violence, and its scale. Another film that was brought here by anti-communalism campaigners was Gopal Menon's film Hey Ram: Genocide in the Land of Gandhi. This too was speedily put-together due to the carnage in Gujarat, in the fallout of the Godhra massacre. This is the usual case of those speaking the truth being labelled as the perpetrators of the crime, said Forum for Communal Harmony campaigner Vidhyadhar Gadgil. But Parrikar has warned that such actions could be viewed as an attempt to incite communal passions and the guilty could be booked under Section 153(A) of the Penal Code. Replying to a query later this evening, Congress central observer Sahai said: The BJP government can seize the cassette, but it can't omit what they have done in Gujarat. Former Congress Rajya Sabha MP John Fernandes argued that the focus on the carnage victims was nothing different from what was depicted by CNN and BBC in the international media. BJP came to power by defections in Goa in October 2000, and Goa is the first state to go to the polls after the Gujarat violence. This has cast its long shadow over the state, though it is not clear who would benefit, since regional factors will play a considerable role here too in the May 30 polls.ENDS =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
Re: [Goanet] Re: MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! --STILL TIME TO VOTE B4 MAY 31
In a message dated 05/22/2002 10:26:23 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paddy - Great survey. BUT... How do you define RELIGION for the purposes of this survey? It might help people to answer if they knew EXACTLY what you mean. Viv (definitely FOR religion) Hi VivIiana: Thanks for your vote, Viv :-) It was the first, in hopefully many more to follow, FOR RELIGION votes. Of course, mine is the second FOR! My American Heritage Dictionary defines 'religion' as: 1. expression of (wo)man's belief in and reverence for a superhuman power recognized as the creator and governor of the universe. 2. Any particular integrated system of this expression: the Hindu religion. 3. The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognizes the existence of a superhuman power or powers As I see it, religion is the ladder, link or stairway to God, deities or power-source. For anyone believing in God, religion serves as the channel or medium for devotion and discipline. In contrast with no religion, or if all in India gave up their religion, as was last advocated, there would be total anarchy and chaos. We'd be like a bunch of sheep without a shepherd -- left to the mercy of vultures and wolverines. PLEASE VOTE -- on GOANET by May 31, and at the polls for GOA ELECTIONS! Long Live Our Secular Goa: Pat =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
goanet-digest V1 #4005
goanet-digest Wednesday, May 22 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4005 - In this issue: [Goanet] NEWS: Kanwal Rekhi hits out at Gujarat intolerance RE: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[Goanet]=20GUJARAT=20HAS=20SEALED=20PARRIKA?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E2S=20FATE?= [Goanet] NEWS: Gujarat carnage video screening prompts govt action in Goa Re: [Goanet] Re: MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! --STILL TIME TO VOTE B4 MAY 31 See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. -- Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 23:55:17 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] NEWS: Kanwal Rekhi hits out at Gujarat intolerance Kanwal Rekhi hits out at Gujarat intolerance By Ela Dutt, Indo-Asian News Service New York, May 22 (IANS) Kanwal Rekhi, the millionaire Silicon Valley entrepreneur, has lashed out at sectarian violence in India that has raised serious questions about the nation's future and its time-honoured secular philosophy. Rekhi, in a column in the Wall Street Journal along with Professor Emeritus of Stanford Henry Rowen, said the severity of the Gujarat communal killings had not yet been highlighted in the American media, but the Indian government's response has begun to raise questions about the character of the world's largest democracy. The handling of the Gujarat riots has shaken the faith of large segments of the population in India's future as a polity that cares for all its citizens, the article said. India is being provoked by Pakistan-based terrorists, but its failure to protect innocent Muslims at home weakens the government both domestically and internationally, Rekhi and Rowen contended. America has come to understand the imperatives of even-handed treatment for its citizens. Until India does so, the people of the world's second-largest democracy (U.S.) will be unable to accord the world's largest democracy the respect that many of us would like to see it deserve, they said. Rekhi and Rowen noted that neither Vajpayee nor Home Minister L.K. Advani had condemned the violence and only stated platitudes, and that the prime minister had actually castigated Muslims around the world as being unable to live in harmony. Unlike President George Bush, who after September 11 went to a mosque and severely condemned any effort to threaten law and order, neither Vajpayee nor Advani has visited a mosque, and neither visited Gujarat during the initial phase of the riots, the two emphasised. Apart from the communal frenzy that took the life of around 950 people, mainly Muslims, in Gujarat, the mounting refugee problem and filthy camps are adding to the image of inaction, the two wrote. During the weeks after riots began in Ahmedabad, the government has conspicuously failed to enforce the law, according to Rekhi and Rowen who echo what the Indian media, human rights groups around the world as well as the European Union have highlighted. The state of things is not because of the state's inability to protect its citizens, but because the Gujarat government's implicit support of rioters and shrugging off the plight of the refugees, the authors pointed out. If anything, the local government's attitude has shifted from lack of interest in its minority citizens before the riots to active hostility afterwards. The atmosphere is such that a state minister in Ahmedabad asked the government to move the victims' camp because it makes his Hindu constituents feel insecure, the column said. While Chief Minister Narendra Modi may be saying things are in control, the police chief in Ahmedabad said his policemen favour rioters who are Hindus. The two also named an Indian bureaucrat who described the Gujarat riots as a state-sponsored pogrom. They attributed Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's inaction to the fact that the Gujarat government is a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government, or to the fear that a more rightwing government may come in place if Modi is removed. The Modi government must be removed, and the state should be brought under central control, after which the police force must be replaced with a relatively unbiased army that could enforce the law impartially, the authors contended. Many overseas Indian Hindus donate money to causes in India that they think will help build temples and educate and feed the poor, Rekhi said. Many would be appalled to know that some recipients of their money are out to destroy minorities (Christians as well as Muslims) and their places of worship. Vajpayee could deal a severe blow to such covert causes by simply labelling them as terrorists. - --Indo-Asian News Service -- Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 20:28:13 +0100 From: C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS! Why we should NOT think as 'Human
[Goanet] THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T KNOW
Humor: THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T KNOW A few things you probably don't want to know... but you are human, and being a curious human, will read. Did you know... It is impossible to lick your own elbow. A crocodile can't stick its tongue out. A shrimp's heart is in its head. In a study of 200,000 ostriches over a period of 80 years, no one reported a single case where an ostrich buried its head in the sand. More than 50% of the people in the world have never made or received a telephone call. The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick is said to be the toughest tongue twister in the English language. Rats multiply so quickly that in 18 months, two rats could have over a million descendants. Wearing headphones for just an hour will increase the bacteria in your ear by 700 times. In every episode of Seinfeld there is a Superman somewhere. 23% of all photocopier faults worldwide are caused by people sitting on them and photocopying their butts. Most lipstick contains fish scales. Like fingerprints, everyone's tongue print is unique. Over 75% of people who read this will try to lick their elbow. :-) With compliments, Joe Vaz _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] Child Prostitution
Can India declare war against those victimizing these innocents? Girls For Sale Sex Slave Trade in India July 16 When Bharti Tapas was 14, she says was sold into slavery, beaten and forced into prostitution. STORY HIGHLIGHTS One Man's Crusade Intersection of Poverty and Sexism When I arrived at the brothel, I refused to do what they told me to and they beat me and starved me for 10 days, says the softspoken girl. I thought I would rather kill myself than be forced to work as a prostitute. She was just a schoolgirl when she found herself in Bombay, along with thousands of other girls who are beaten, locked in tiny cages or hidden in attics. Some are forced to have sex with as many as 20 men a day under the watchful eyes of madams and pimps. They are not given enough to eat. There are no beds. They have to sleep on the floor. Sometimes they are raped, says Ruchira Gupta, a social worker and documentary filmmaker who spent months investigating the horrors of Bombay's brothels for her film The Selling of Innocents. It can take 10 years for a woman to buy her freedom if she doesn't first succumb to AIDS, other STDs, complications from repeated abortions, malnourishment, malaria, or TB. Most don't make it to the age of 40. There's high rates of suicides among these girls because they have no escape, says Gupta. Once or twice I know of girls who tried to get out and they were beaten black and blue and locked up all over again. One Man's Crusade Though prostitutes can be seen openly soliciting on the streets in the red-light district, police often pay no heed. Asked what role his department plays in rescuing these girls, the Bombay police commissioner says, Prostitution is said to be the oldest profession in this world The society has been accepting it, demanding it and then encouraging it We are not social workers we are law enforcers. And yet, it is one civilian and not the police who has taken on a personal and very dangerous crusade to rescue abducted girls. So far, Balkrishna Archarya, a Bombay businessman, says he has rescued 187 underage girls. One of those girls was Bharti, whom he saved with the help of ABCNEWS' hidden cameras. Bharti was then reunited with her family. Though she still fears the stigma of being shunned by her family and village for having worked as a prostitute, she is back in school in West Bengal. The Intersection of Poverty and Sexism According to Gupta, it is often the parents who send their children away, thinking they may be going to do domestic work, when in fact they will end up in prostitution. It is the intersection of poverty and sexism, says Gupta, who recalls a father of four children who worked as a bricklayer in Kathmandu. At the time I met him, one of his kids had tuberculosis. The family was literally starving, she says. He thought if he would let one child go at least the other three would survive. So he sold one of his girls for approximately $80. What he did not know was that he had actually sold his daughter to Gupta, who filmed the transaction for her documentary. Gupta not only supported the child whom he had sold, but also put all four of his kids through boarding school in Kathmandu. Gupta then set up an organization called Apne Aap, in an attempt to put an end to prostitution and reduce HIV transmission. We are trying to create a system of support for these girls who want to get out of prostitution, she says of her organization, which has reached out to about 17,000 women. Based in Bombay's red-light area, Apne Aap also seeks to protect the daughters of prostitutes from being sexually exploited. Literally we are buying time from the brothel madams for the daughters of the prostitutes to stay in school, she says. ABCNEWS.com's Rebecca Raphael contributed to this report. What You Can Do Ruchira Gupta is the founder of Apne Aap, the initiative to end sex trafficking and support marginalized women and girls. Witness works to overcome political, economic, and physical barriers, and to expose human rights abuses to
[Goanet] BEWARE OF HEPATITIS B VACCINE.
* Documented by Goa Desc Documentation Service circulated by Goa Civic Consumer Action Network (GOA CAN)[EMAIL PROTECTED] * BEWARE OF HEPATITIS B VACCINE. Hepatitis 'B' Vaccine has the following adverse effects. * Arthritis * Sudden Infant death Syndrome (SIDS) * Lupus * Guillian Barre Syndrome * POTS (an auto immune cardio vascular neurological problem) And other life threatening diseases. All Parents are requested to take note of this before inoculating their children. For any clarifications please check out these links on the Internet. 1. www.doctorslegal.com/arthritis.html 2. www.chetday.com/hepbarticle.html 3. www.medsupport.org/hepatitis.html 4. www.aapsonline.org/press/nrohvac.html We, at citizens for health, are planning to take up this issue with the Govt. Parents whose wards have developed complications following this vaccine are requested to contact us at our office, telephone us or email us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adv. Judas Chagas Silva, Off: 307, Damodar Phase II, Near Police Station, Margao-Goa. Ph:- 738280. Convenor Advert. HERALD 19/5/2002 Page 3 === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-W-E-B---S-I-T-E-=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet | http://www.goacom.com/goanet === For (un)subscribing or for help, Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont want so many e=mails? Join GoaNet-Digest instead ! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Help support non-commercial projects in Goa by advertizing!! * * * * Your ad here !!
[Goanet] 23 MAY: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS 23 May 2002 PM WARNS PAKISTAN: In a tough message to Pakistan, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee on Wednesday declared that the time had come to wage a decisive battle against cross-border terrorism. Addressing troops barely 25 kms from the Line of Control, Vajpayee said there was a limit to India's tolerance of the proxy war. (PTI report in GT) CONG COUNTING ON SONIA: Congress president Sonia Gandhi's public address at the Campal grounds today is expected to hold major significance in determining the vote bank of the Congress in the State. With the major party leaders from across the country pouring into the State and holding public functions, Sonia's address will play a decisive role, opined a senior Congressmen. (GT) SONIA UNFIT TO RULE; ANWAR: All India Congress president Sonia Gandhi is not an Indian citizen by birth but enjoys acquired citizenship, and hence is not eligible to become the prime minister of India in future, said Nationalist Congress Party national general secretary Tariq Anwar yesterday. He has also predicted that there will be fractured mandate in the State in the May 30 elections. (GT) PARRIKAR FLAYS DIXIT, TYTLER: Reacting to statements made by Delhi Chief Minister Sheela Dixit, former Union ministers Jagdish Tytler and Kamalnath of the Congress Party, Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar stated yesterday that these leaders, who have a bad track record in their own states should not preach to BJP and Goans about the concept of good governance. (GT) MINORITIES TOTALLY EXPLOITED: Minorities were not being taken seriously. All the more, the Gujarat riots and certain local incidents (not just the Socorro Muslims prayer hall arson but two other unreported incidents) had led me to review my relations with the BJP...I still feel he (CM Manohar Parrikar) has adminstrative abilities and discipline. But certain compulsions of politics perhaps influenced his decision-making process. The zeal with which he started his tenure, specially his fight against corruption and other illegalities, has almost died out. (Soter D'Souza, who recently quit as the general secretary of the BJP's Minority Morcha, in a chat with Frederick Noronha, in Herald) BJP SUPPORTERS ASSAULT CONGMEN: The Curchorem constituency remained tense yesterday, following the assault of three Congress workers by the BJP workers. One of the assailants happened to be a brother of the BJP candidate Ramrao Dessai. (GT) DR HELECAR FELICITATED: The Anand Helecar, former Director of Health Services, has been honoured with the Bharat Gaurav award along with a certificate of excellence, for his outstanding services and contribution to society. (GT) HEPATITIS B VACCINE SAFE: According to the Director of the Food and Drugs Administration, SN Tripathi, the allegation that a particular Hep B vaccine is banned is baseless, since they would have been informed immediately about it. (H) LIC DIRECTED TO STOP ISSUING DSSS CHEQUES: Life Insurance Corporation has been directed to stop issuing cheques under the Dayanand Social Security Scheme till June 1, 2002. The instructions were issued yesterday by the Chief Elector Officer after investigating into receipt of various complaints that cheques were being distributed by candidates in a bid to woo voters. (H) FOR MENTALLY ILL CHILDREN: Peace Haven Home and School for Mentally Retarded Children, Caranzalem, will open admissions for boarding/school for the new academic year 2002-03 from May 24 to 30. (H) GOAN MAGICIANS Guild has said that it was in no way connected with the convention of magicians, recently held at the Kala Academy. (H) WON'T DEFECT: Francis D'Souza (BJP), Paresh Raikar (MGP), Prasad Divkar (NCP) and Sanjay Harmalkar (Shiv Sena) who were present at the Meet Your Candidate programme at Mapusa's Hanuman Theatre yesterday evening, promised not to defect to any other party if elected to the forthcoming legislative assembly. Congress candidate, Armindo Braganza, was not present. (NT) PEREIRA PIMENTA LAUNCHES RCC PIPES: The house of Pereira Pimenta known for cement products have introduced RCC pipes of 30 cms diameter, 45 cms diameter and 90 cms diameter. (H) DECISION IN SEIZED TAPE AWAITED: The police are awaiting the decision of the chief electoral officer to take action against the screening of objectionable video clipping of Gujarat carnage in Velim constituency. (NT) BLOOD DONATION CAMP: The Calangute Junior Chamber will be organising a blood donation and detection camp on May 26, at Calangute Association Hall, from 11 am to 1.30 pm. (NT) THAKRANS GRANTED BAIL: Sanjay and Anjali Thakran, who were accused in the Nanda couple murder, were granted bail by the Goa bench of the Bombay High Court yesterday. (GT) FRIDAY BALCAO, the fortnightly discussion event, to be held on May 24 will feature a presentation by Architect Dean D'Cruz on his experiences as an architect in dealing with issues affecting
