Re: Less restrictive LilyPond identifiers?

2004-03-10 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 03:03:30PM +0100, Matthias Kilian wrote:
[Letters and digits in identifiers]
 If there's no other reason for disallowing digits than to keep
 parser/scanner, I could try to write a patch.

Quick hack alert! The patch below appears to work. However, it applies
only to scanner rules using NOTECOMMAND. And, of course, documentation
and emacs and vim configuration would have to be changed. I'd work on
documentation and vim configuration if this patch is accepted.

Ciao,
Kili


diff -x CVS -rNup ../lilypond-2.1.29/lily/lexer.ll ./lily/lexer.ll
--- ../lilypond-2.1.29/lily/lexer.ll2004-02-24 21:00:57.0 +0100
+++ ./lily/lexer.ll 2004-03-07 18:25:38.0 +0100
@@ -112,12 +112,13 @@ SCM (* scm_parse_error_handler) (void *)
 A  [a-zA-Z]
 AA {A}|_
 N  [0-9]
-AN {AA}|{N}
+AN {A}|{N}
+AAN{AA}|{N}
 PUNCT  [?!:'`]
 ACCENT \\[`'^]
 NATIONAL   [\001-\006\021-\027\031\036\200-\377]
 TEX{AA}|-|{PUNCT}|{ACCENT}|{NATIONAL}
-WORD   {A}{AN}*
+WORD   {A}{AAN}*
 ALPHAWORD  {A}+
 DIGIT  {N}
 UNSIGNED   {N}+
@@ -130,7 +131,7 @@ WHITE   [ \n\t\f\r]
 HORIZONTALWHITE[ \t]
 BLACK  [^ \n\t\f\r]
 RESTNAME   [rs]
-NOTECOMMAND\\{A}+
+NOTECOMMAND\\{A}{AN}*
 MARKUPCOMMAND  \\({A}|[-_])+
 LYRICS ({AA}|{TEX})[^0-9 \t\n\r\f]*
 ESCAPED[nt\\']
diff -x CVS -rNup ../lilypond-2.1.29/lily/parser.yy ./lily/parser.yy
--- ../lilypond-2.1.29/lily/parser.yy   2004-02-26 22:59:50.0 +0100
+++ ./lily/parser.yy2004-03-07 18:27:21.0 +0100
@@ -123,11 +123,10 @@ is_regular_identifier (SCM id)
   String str = ly_scm2string (id);
   char const *s = str.to_str0 () ;
 
-  bool v = true;
-  while (*s  v)
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[Goanet]Colourful Konkani book for children is inaugurated

2004-03-10 Thread Ancy S DSouza Paladka
Colourful Konkani book for children is inaugurated
---
Ancy Paladka has written a new colourful Konkani book
of short stories in Devnagiri script specially
targeting the little children of Mumbai. The name of
the book is `Puthu Shetichio Kannio'. 

This large size colourful book has sixteen attractive
stories with beautiful illustrations and printed in
Devnagiri script, the script that is familiar to the
children of Mumbai. 

The hundred pages 29cm X 22 cm book is printed using
expensive papers so that the children may not
underestimate Konkani books with the attractive
English children’s story books. The book will surely
kindle the taste of reading among the little ones. 
 
The book was inaugurated on 13th February 2004 at the
24th Akhil Bharathiya Sahitya Parishad held recently
at Calicut. Mr. T.P.M Zaheer the M.L.A of Calicut
inaugurated the book. The outgoing Sahitya Parishad
president Mr. Tanaji Harlankar, the new sahitya
parishad president Mr. Basti Vaman Shenoy, the
president of the welcome committee Mr. Surendra Rao,
Karnataka Konkani Sahitya Akademy president  Monsgr.
Alexandar F. D'Souza, Mr. Raju Nayk were also present
at the Dias.

Ancy is basically a Konkani writer in Kannada script.
His works are getting published since last 22 years.
This young man of 37 years has dedicated himself for
the children’s literature since past eight years. It
is a unique record in Konkani that his first poetry
book `IEGO BAIE'  published by Raknno was sold out
within fifteen days. Raknno published the second
edition of the same book within one month. Xembor
Baall Gitam Chirputam, Baal Sangathi are his other
books. `Pinocio', `Vinu Sunni Ani Sangathi' are his
translated novels. He has been awarded with Karnataka
Konkani Sahitya Akademy Award for the years 1995 to
1997. He has also bagged Dr. T.M.A. Pai book
appreciation award for the year 1999.

Though the book is priced at Rs. 80/- the book is
currently sold at an invitation price of Rs. 50/-
only. Interested can send their cheque/dd to the
address below and obtain the copy of the book within
India. 

Cheques/drafts should be issued in the name Ancy
Salvadore D'Souza. 
 
Contact: Ancy S. D'Souza Paladka
 E2-139 Diwan Apt III
 Vasai Road East
 Thane Dist - 401 210, Maharashtra
 Tel: 0250-2390225 / 3465394 
 Cell: 9422 4922 41 (Vasai), 989291788(Mumbai)
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[Goanet]11 MAR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-03-10 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
11 March 2004

   GOACOM VIDEO NEWS
  at http://www.goacom.com/news
   goacomNews09 Mar 04.
   Uploaded: Mar-10-04 | 6 am; Duration: 6:33
   H I G H L I G H T S :
   - POLL CAMPAIGN: Shripad Naik confident of annexing the North Goa seat
again. Congress, MGP and NCP unity yet to take off.
   - Minister for Power Digambar Kamat celebrates his 50th birthday in
Margao.
   - SHISHARANNI: A quaint Hindu Festival at Canacona temple in South, where
three devotees form a human fire-place on which food is cooked.
   Goacom News Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news
   Webzine GoaNOW: http://www.goacom.com/goanow

IFFI: CITIZENS, NGOS TO MEET: A meeting of citizens and non-governmental
organizations to discuss issues related to the massive infrastructure
development undertaken by the government at a 'hectic' pace in the city for
the upcoming International Film Festival of 2004 will be held at TB Cunha
hall in Panaji on 14 March. People's Movement for Civic Action, a
Panaji-based NGO, has stated that though major projects, which could affect
the life of citizens of the capital city, are being pushed through at a
reckless pace, the main stakeholders are being kept in the dark. (GT)

VARCA DHIRIO; MINISTER, MLA AMONG SPECTATORS: It was hardly dawn on Friday
but the bull-fight lovers had already come in droves at Pedda-Varca. A
youthful minister and a first-time young MLA were reportedly part of the
massive crowd and made a delayed presence at the venue, but the promised
bull-fight took place without the notice of the Colva police, so to say.
According to information, around 5000-odd dhirio lovers-hailing from as far
as Pernem and Bardez, besides the coastal belt of Salcete-pouring in at
Varca since the wee hours. At 7 am, the much-awaited fight started between
two bulls-one from Benaulim and the other from Varca. And, it took just 17
minutes for the bull from Varca to defeat the other bull, thus making the
owner richer by around Rs.50,000. (H)

UGDP TO EXPAND PARTY BASE: The United Goan Democratic Party presidium that
met recently is known to have discussed the party's strategy for the
forthcoming Lok Sabha election. Sources from the UGDP stated that as a first
step the party has started mobilizing to expand the party base all over the
State. (GT)

NO 'FEEL GOOD' FACTOR ON GAS, COCONUTS: How can there be a 'feel good'
factor when the price of an LPG cylinder is Rs.260 and that of a coconut is
Rs.12, queried Congress leaders at a public meeting near the Navdurga temple
in Marcaim on March 10. (H)

CHURCHILL IN CONG'S FIRST LIST OF CANDIDATES: A highlight of the first list
of list candidates (countrywide) released by the Congress Party has names of
59 sitting members, the party is fielding 16 new candidates including former
Goa Chief Minister, Mr Churchill Alemao, from Mormugao. (NT)

PRINCESS: CALANGUTE MLA THREATENS TO FILE WRIT: Calangute MLA Agnelo
Fernandes yesterday (March 10) threatened to file a writ petition seeking
time-bound programme for the removal of the grounded vessel River Princess
at Candolim.He pointed out that the Bombay High Court had directed the
government to initiate steps to remove the vessel but the government was
adopting dilly-dallying tactics in the matter. (GT)

PANEL TO KEEP TAB ON PROBE INTO BETUL RAPE CASE: Demanding that the
perpetrators of the gory crime be brought to book, the locals of
Tolecanto-Velim vowed to continue their struggle till the police complete
their investigations in the rape and murder of the 10-year-old students at
Betul. A seven-member committee has been constituted to pursue the case on a
day-to-day basis with the police authorities. Members of the committee are
ST Rock Parish Priest Fr Erodiano Fernandes, Bailancho Ekvott President Auda
Viegas and Simon Fernandes, Ramona Almeida, Nora Mazarello, Helma Mazarello
and Antonette Pinto. (H)

NEW COCUM GRAFT: For the first time, Goa's Forest Department, Research
Division, has achieved fruitful results while developing a Garcinia Indica
(kokum) graft conducive for cultivation in the State. The research was held
for a year and is expected to continue further. (H)

SENSITIVE BOOTHS GET ON CONG NERVES: The Congress has charged the government
of targeting Congress-ruled assembly constituencies while declaring the
list of sensitive booths and creating fear psychosis among the voters. Santa
Cruz MLA, Victoria Fernandes, expressed alarm over the enlisting of a
sizable number of polling stations in St Cruz declared as sensitive for the
forthcoming parliamentary polls. Calangute MLA Agnelo Fernandes also flayed
the government for declaring as many as 12 polling stations in his
constituency as sensitive. (H)

LEOPARDS ON THE PROWL IN CHANDOR: And now a group of leopards seems to be on
the prowl at Cavorim-Gotmorod, Chandor, in Salcete. I've lost piglings and
a dog to the leopards, who are making life miserable for us here, said
Andrew D'Silva who is running a dairy farm in the village. The affected 

[Goanet]Fred, Bakshish, Elitism and Kaali-fornia type Goal Post movement!

2004-03-10 Thread Dr. José Colaço
Posted this earlier.apparently got LOST on the way to Goanet - here is 
another try

---

From:  Dr. José Colaço [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed Mar 10, 2004  8:03 am
Subject:  Fred, Bakshish, Elitism and Kaali-fornia type Goal Posts movement!
Dear Fred,

Once again, you have to forgive my difficulty with some of this VHF 
intellectual stuff coming from elite Goa Journos. This probably is the 
reason why I do not understand their (Journos) take on many matters.

You(Fred) correctly quote me as writing thus:

JCNow.if you read my post in toto, you just might realise that I wasn't 
referring to the Bakshish culture in School Entry alone.but to the 
Bakshish culture completamente (;-)

and then proceed to ask me the following questions

FN: Are you suggesting

(i) that all things in Goa were generally better prior to 1961 or
(ii) that some things were better prior to that date or
(iii) if the Portuguese had continued ruling, we wouldn't have had some/all 
problems we're facing today?

May I very respectfully ask IF your (Fred's) above-quoted queries are
related to the BAKSHISH culture Or is this a general set of queries?.
Whichever it is, please say so.

In response, I will NOT ask you what RELEVANCE the quote has to your set 
of queries, or even the RELEVANCE of your set of queries to the TOPIC at 
hand, but merely give you my answers to your queries.and ask you the 
same questions that you have asked me.

For reference, I have included (LINKED) the posts below

Sincerely,

jc

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goa-Goans/message/15209

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Re: [Goanet]RK Nair has no right to question Dr. Colaco!

2004-03-10 Thread Helga do Rosario Gomes
Cecil - you  are our post-1961 non Portuguese Dave Barry!
Thankfully  Radhakrishnan Nair, that Keralite Koconut also has a sense of
humor. Unfortunately, this commodity seems to be in short supply on the
goanet lately. Relegated to the back burner by the self appointed William
Safires of the Portuguese language.
--Helga

 -

 Dear Mr. Nair,

  From your surname I am presuming you are a 'voilo' and therefore have no
 right to comment on matters regarding Goa and Goans even if you live and
 work in Goa. The honourable Dr. Colaco can look through whatever prism (or
 more likely telescope) he wants to and that is none of your business, you
 Keralite Koconut!!



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Re: [Goanet]Elite Schools query

2004-03-10 Thread Bernado Colaco
Bollywog should visit Macau.

B. Colaco



 --- Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Dr. [UNKNOWN] José Colaço
wrote:
 
  Now.if you read my post in toto, you just
 might realise that I 
  wasn't referring to the Bakshish culture in School
 Entry alone.but 
  to the Bakshish culture completamente (;-)
 
 Are you suggesting (i) that all things in Goa were
 generally better prior 
 to 1961 or (ii) that some things were better prior
 to that date or (iii) 
 if the Portuguese had continued ruling, we wouldn't
 have had some/all 
 problems we're facing today?
 
 Please let us know how anyone could justify the
 first or third 
 insinuations, if this is what you mean. Your
 arguments however 
 tend to go around in circles, and duck the point. 
 






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[Goanet]WORLD GOA DAY E-GROUP

2004-03-10 Thread George Pinto
Dear all,

We are delighted to launch an e-group dedicated to the celebration of WORLD GOA DAY.  
This e-group
will be exclusively dedicated to the discussion, co-ordination and world-wide 
celebration of WORLD
GOA DAY.  This year's celebration will be Aug 21, 22.  Please mark your calendars.

If you wish to join this group, please email me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
your full
name, country of residence and phone number where you can be reached and you will be 
added to the
group.

WHAT IS GOA DAY?
As Goans we are proud to celebrate GOA DAY. Our manner of celebration is to try and 
give something
back to our community by improving and developing Goa/Goans. This year's theme and 
focus is:
CREATING JOBS FOR GOANS. Through economic progress and capitalizing on opportunities 
we can make
strides in various fields and help Goans along the way.  

Many Goans have given back to Goa and they have done so impressively. Whether they 
have built
cyber communities, donated money, time, skills, computers, or work for the 
underpriviledged, etc.,
there is hopefully a significant increase in altruism, based on our traditional Goan 
emphathy for
humanity. Our worldwide celebration of GOA DAY should not be minimized. It compares no 
less with
the Irish efforts of St. Patrick's Day and America's Independence Day (minus the 
commercial
marketing of those days) in preserving our identity. If we want to be, we can be a 
proud people,
holding our own on the world stage. We have our own music, art, cuisine, history, 
literature, etc.
Let's hope we all specficially set aside some time this GOA DAY to celebrate our 
culture and give
back to others.

Thanks,
Moderators 
(George Pinto  Rene Barreto)
www.goaday.com


 

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[Goanet-news]11 MAR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-03-10 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
11 March 2004

   GOACOM VIDEO NEWS
  at http://www.goacom.com/news
   goacomNews09 Mar 04.
   Uploaded: Mar-10-04 | 6 am; Duration: 6:33
   H I G H L I G H T S :
   - POLL CAMPAIGN: Shripad Naik confident of annexing the North Goa seat
again. Congress, MGP and NCP unity yet to take off.
   - Minister for Power Digambar Kamat celebrates his 50th birthday in
Margao.
   - SHISHARANNI: A quaint Hindu Festival at Canacona temple in South, where
three devotees form a human fire-place on which food is cooked.
   Goacom News Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news
   Webzine GoaNOW: http://www.goacom.com/goanow

IFFI: CITIZENS, NGOS TO MEET: A meeting of citizens and non-governmental
organizations to discuss issues related to the massive infrastructure
development undertaken by the government at a 'hectic' pace in the city for
the upcoming International Film Festival of 2004 will be held at TB Cunha
hall in Panaji on 14 March. People's Movement for Civic Action, a
Panaji-based NGO, has stated that though major projects, which could affect
the life of citizens of the capital city, are being pushed through at a
reckless pace, the main stakeholders are being kept in the dark. (GT)

VARCA DHIRIO; MINISTER, MLA AMONG SPECTATORS: It was hardly dawn on Friday
but the bull-fight lovers had already come in droves at Pedda-Varca. A
youthful minister and a first-time young MLA were reportedly part of the
massive crowd and made a delayed presence at the venue, but the promised
bull-fight took place without the notice of the Colva police, so to say.
According to information, around 5000-odd dhirio lovers-hailing from as far
as Pernem and Bardez, besides the coastal belt of Salcete-pouring in at
Varca since the wee hours. At 7 am, the much-awaited fight started between
two bulls-one from Benaulim and the other from Varca. And, it took just 17
minutes for the bull from Varca to defeat the other bull, thus making the
owner richer by around Rs.50,000. (H)

UGDP TO EXPAND PARTY BASE: The United Goan Democratic Party presidium that
met recently is known to have discussed the party's strategy for the
forthcoming Lok Sabha election. Sources from the UGDP stated that as a first
step the party has started mobilizing to expand the party base all over the
State. (GT)

NO 'FEEL GOOD' FACTOR ON GAS, COCONUTS: How can there be a 'feel good'
factor when the price of an LPG cylinder is Rs.260 and that of a coconut is
Rs.12, queried Congress leaders at a public meeting near the Navdurga temple
in Marcaim on March 10. (H)

CHURCHILL IN CONG'S FIRST LIST OF CANDIDATES: A highlight of the first list
of list candidates (countrywide) released by the Congress Party has names of
59 sitting members, the party is fielding 16 new candidates including former
Goa Chief Minister, Mr Churchill Alemao, from Mormugao. (NT)

PRINCESS: CALANGUTE MLA THREATENS TO FILE WRIT: Calangute MLA Agnelo
Fernandes yesterday (March 10) threatened to file a writ petition seeking
time-bound programme for the removal of the grounded vessel River Princess
at Candolim.He pointed out that the Bombay High Court had directed the
government to initiate steps to remove the vessel but the government was
adopting dilly-dallying tactics in the matter. (GT)

PANEL TO KEEP TAB ON PROBE INTO BETUL RAPE CASE: Demanding that the
perpetrators of the gory crime be brought to book, the locals of
Tolecanto-Velim vowed to continue their struggle till the police complete
their investigations in the rape and murder of the 10-year-old students at
Betul. A seven-member committee has been constituted to pursue the case on a
day-to-day basis with the police authorities. Members of the committee are
ST Rock Parish Priest Fr Erodiano Fernandes, Bailancho Ekvott President Auda
Viegas and Simon Fernandes, Ramona Almeida, Nora Mazarello, Helma Mazarello
and Antonette Pinto. (H)

NEW COCUM GRAFT: For the first time, Goa's Forest Department, Research
Division, has achieved fruitful results while developing a Garcinia Indica
(kokum) graft conducive for cultivation in the State. The research was held
for a year and is expected to continue further. (H)

SENSITIVE BOOTHS GET ON CONG NERVES: The Congress has charged the government
of targeting Congress-ruled assembly constituencies while declaring the
list of sensitive booths and creating fear psychosis among the voters. Santa
Cruz MLA, Victoria Fernandes, expressed alarm over the enlisting of a
sizable number of polling stations in St Cruz declared as sensitive for the
forthcoming parliamentary polls. Calangute MLA Agnelo Fernandes also flayed
the government for declaring as many as 12 polling stations in his
constituency as sensitive. (H)

LEOPARDS ON THE PROWL IN CHANDOR: And now a group of leopards seems to be on
the prowl at Cavorim-Gotmorod, Chandor, in Salcete. I've lost piglings and
a dog to the leopards, who are making life miserable for us here, said
Andrew D'Silva who is running a dairy farm in the village. The affected 

[Goanet]Re: Goan political activity in Goa

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 20:19:15 -0500 (EST), Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 It amazes me that every time I go to (and especially
 south) Goa, everyone shouts that the representatives
 are criminals. Yet these very same people get VOTED
 into office again and again.

 Mervyn2.0

RESPONSE: Arre Mervyn 2.0kitem uloitai re...Saiba Bogos.Who says
Goans are voting in criminals over and over again...you're probably referring to
those Liberals in Canada.please show me the proof and the pudding...
Samjaproof-proof(very humbly - I ask because I do not know - Please tell
me that I am wrong)

Now don't come back to me and say those are famous last words and all that
gibberishI'm now packing it in - yet..

I know everything else about Goa because I'm reading Goanet and Goan
newspapers.and all my friends and familia are emailing me regularly except
what Mervyn 2.0 is saying.nobody says the same thing as Mervyn 2.0..
please ignore Cecil if he contradicts [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] has a habit
of doing that !!! Cecilmeet me on the ferry boat...dakoita tuca.

Listen Mervyn 2.0...seems you don't know.Goans are good peoplewe
have always been good people.arre bore mure amipre-1961 and
post-9/11hicI mean post-1961.I'm not sure what happened during
1961.we may have to ask Padre Loiolawho was studying French in 1961 in
Goa..FrenchFrench.celebrating the Bastilleeven to this day..:-)

It is those conniving, theiving, bakshish-taking, oggling at women, bharatis
(read Indians) who keep voting for those criminals..oh-wait-a-minuteam I
sounding like somebody else.let me change things a little..blistering
barnacles.thundering typhoons..be gone you lot of Mossambis, Pumpkins,
Guavas, Turnips..I'm breathless..somebody please continue for me..

Somebody with pearls of wisdomsaid all of Goa ** PROBABLY ** would have been
Muslim.or that our passports would ** PROBABLY ** have been green..Can
you imagine if Aliens had landed in Goa before Vasco da Gama..the man **
PROBABLY ** would have received a rude shockhe arriving in a boat (stuck in
the pani) and ALIENS on saucers (skimming all over)and he ** PROBABLY **
would have joined them on an inter-stellar journey.and blazed a trail for
all Goans...and we would have been masters of the universe...all **
PROBABLY ** !!!

I'll be baak - Bosco

PSI almost forgot.

India is my country.
All bharatis (read Indians) are my brothers and sisters.
oh geezcan't remember the rest from my Grade 6 Civics class;-)

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[Goanet]Re: Drunken Brits Goa Berserk On Holiday Jet: Sunday Mirror.

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:52:44 +0100, Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha wrote:

From: Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:05 AM:

 Blackburn, 31, and Sayer, 30, were held in police cells in Vasco da Gama
 in Northern Goa for 18 hours before being released on bail.


 Vasco da Gama in Northern Goa?!

 Jorge

RESPONSE: Jorge..ahem-ahemsince the Portuguese landed in Calicutand
all the world changed forever.saamke.change-zalleeconomics,
thuganomics, caste-micssogle-mics..sogle change.and with evidence
from Eddie's article from a respected media organization above.maybe it's
time we Goans riseand take what is ours.our claim to the entire coast
from Konkan to Malabar.and after our successVasco aka Sambaji Nagar will
be located in North Goa, eh ?? Kaa-le muntai...;-)

Later - Bosco

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[Goanet]Need assistance

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 (???)  21:52:48 +0530, Rajendra Sahay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am regularly receiving mails from your side , i want to  put one problem
before u , please suggest me what sort of action i have to take .
The matter is that , two months ago i joined one company and left on
17.02.04 with proper intimation to the Managing Director and HRD , now on
completion of the month today when i approach to the company they denied to
pay me the salary for 17 days . I want to take legal action against the
company pl. inform me how i can take the legal action against them.


Mar 11-14, 2004 - Shigmo Festival, Goa

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[Goanet]On lighting a lighter candle . . .

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:46:58 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


March 9, 2004

ON LIGHTING A LIGHTER CANDLE . . .


Although I may be an absentee vote on a number of ballots that keep surfacing on
Goanet, I cannot help but be humored by the occasional ego-rattling, name
dropping, or names getting dropped from the list for name-calling!

Or, humored at such other times when a simple kilobyte-issue escalates into a
mega - Gigahertz ball, slipping out of hand and roaring downfield!   Or, when
one netter lights a candle to quell another netter 's unbearable groan about the
darkness into which that one has descended, or is about to draw others into. 
Or, at the mechanical ease with which we shackle a whole new assembly of wheels
to the existing set of wheels that were fated to get stuck in the mucky issue!

As a resourceful minority in the larger scheme of survival, we Goans have
managed to remain closely interwoven in one another's woes, aspirations, outlook
or downfall, so much so that it can be almost ascertained that the virus
manifesting itself on one Goan 's harddrive has nothing to do with the Doidiro
at the other end!  Even more comforting is the fact that in this age of
Megahertz and Gigahertz, we are still accustomed to routinely herding ourselves
into our self-righteous bandwagon, and parking it center stage in time's
theater.  So long as the movie is on, we have nothing to complain.  It's when
the movie stops that we get agitated and start staring at each other, and
kneading menacing-looking balls, and letting them drop for the other guy to go
after; or lighting candles, even going online to check for a set of new or used
wheels!

We do, however, have our sense of humor at the other's expense and caliber.  But
when the calibration misfires, we draw out our Portuguese era 12-bore guns. 
Great care is taken though to aim high, so as to avoid needless bloodshed, or
the downing of a yippie crow on its first sabbatical.  And speaking of birds and
their unconditional droppings, in our pursuit of transcendental BS, it is not
uncommon to find ourselves grabbing the 'S' by its horn rather than the 'B'!

All said and done and no matter what or where, we do stand our ground and
haven't yet gone underground, become dismembered or extinct like the Dodo.  Time
and over again, we have exhibited a remarkable resilience to tolerate one
another, and to light a candle rather than curse the shadow or the darkness
emanating from the other's grand standing on a defunct issue.  And when a
non-assuming candle fails to dispel the gloom or the community moan, someone --
much larger than hope -- rushes to the scene, lights a homemade candle from both
ends and in that moment of expedited illumination, everyone instantly rebounds
to the realization that it is a beautiful morning and heads for the outdoors! 
Such lightning exit is not without enlightenment, as it adequately reminds us
that there is all kinds of darkness out there, and at times, it is not too late
to curse the candle instead!

Dom Martin


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[Goanet]BAKER (PODER)

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:38:51 -, Gabe Menezes  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Subject: BAKER (PODER)

THE MOST JOYFUL TINTINNABULATION IN THE WORLD

By Stanley Pinto


Many decades ago, when the world was very much more innocent than it is today
and the simple pleasures of life were largely the only pleasures that came our
way in Goa, I decided, with all the precociousness of youth, that there could be
very few aromas in the world as wonderful as those that floated out of a bakery
at work. Few tastes as heavenly as honest-to-goodness country bread. And few
sounds as joyous as the tintinnabulation of a village poder's bell, as he
perambulated around on his bicycle, a large round basket of his wares providing
it a precarious balance.

As children we waited anxiously for the sound of that bell and then, at it's
first distant pealing, ran squealing with pleasure down the road to meet it. And
then we squealed all the way back home, this time with half a dozen kankhna
strung on our little hands.

Later, as teenagers, pimples sprouting and hormones raging, how often we'd wend
our way home at dawn, our latest young flames in tow. Enroute, bodies exhausted
by jiving to Johnson's band and living it up lavishly to other slightly more
nefarious activities of a night on the tiles, a stop at the poder's bakery for a
fresh pao straight from the wood-fired ovens was a nutritional must.

And later still, a new wife in one hand and all the world in the palm of the
other, the second most liberating joy of life was to dip a hot pao into a
steaming plate of sorpotel. Bliss. Nirvana. Our very own, very special, entirely
exclusive Goan Karma.

Today, in the afternoon of my life, returning to Goa after many years spent in
various countries, I have rediscovered the poder. And my joy is boundless. We in
Goa are blessed. There is a poder in every village baking fresh, nourishing,
wonderful, hand-made paos and gutlis and poios and kankhna. Anywhere else in the
world, they'd be called designer bread and sold in fancy patisseries for
improbable prices. But we're twice-blessed: our poder delivers his delights to
our door.

When as a newly landed NRI I first purchased a popular brand of sliced bread
from the convenience store next door, and lived through the horror of it
coagulating into an unspeakable mess in my mouth, my first instinct was to pull
up stakes and return to foreign parts. An extreme reaction, you might think,
gentle reader, but consider: while Man may not live by bread alone,
honest-to-goodness bread is a staple of life for me. All thanks to my early
experiences with the poder in Goa. The Farmer's Loaf in America, the Baguette in
Paris, the whole-wheat breads of South-east Asia, I had revelled in them all.
How in heaven's name could anyone possible tolerate this mass-produced
assembly-line mess called sliced bread?

The delicious fact is that in Goa we don't have to. We still have our poder.
Admittedly, things have changed but in a way that is perfectly reasonable.
Evolution, not Revolution. His bicycle has given way to a mechanised
two-wheeler. The transactions are contracted in English as much as in Konkani.
And if truth be told, the variety of his wares has somewhat shrunk, the
butterfly and the kankhon often notable by their absence. But the heavenly
taste, laced gently but unmistakeably through with freshly drawn sur, is
undiminished.

And yet, for reasons redolent of that first serpent in Paradise, it isn't a
perfect world. Suddenly, alarmingly, a new controversy is building up around the
village poder. Yesterday's Herald reported that my fellow Goans are finding a
proposed increase in his prices unacceptable.

Never mind that it is the first increase he's asked for in five years, despite
constantly rising prices of sugar, maida, transportation, wages. Or that gram
for gram it represents a measly 25p extra for a 70gm bread, or that weight for
weight it still is 40p less expensive than the execrable mass-produced sliced
bread. My fellow Goans are protesting it. They'd rather put the hapless poder
out of business than give him a fair chance to make a decent return for his
skills. So, some twenty bakers have already closed shop, the report says.
Several among the rest are seriously considering it. And I am sitting at my
breakfast table, my head in my hands and my heart in my mouth, wondering what is
wrong with my Goan brethren.

Have we sat on our brains for such long periods that we've squashed their
ability to think? To feel? Must we be penny wise pound foolish, refusing to give
to brother poder next door what we repeatedly and unquestioningly hand over to
the faceless industrialist bakery? Must we throw away the cheaper and infinitely
superior option and settle for a measurably more expensive, more distasteful,
almost synthetic replacement? Please, dear friends, let's not.

Let's not give up on our good old country bread. Our children may never forgive
us for frittering away a tradition that's as Goan as Goa itself. 

[Goanet]MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA GEARING TOWARDS WORLD GOA DAY 2004

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:05:59 +1100, Oscar  Hazel Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


*

WORLD GOA DAY 2004
MELBOURNE
AUSTRALIA

This year World Goa Day in Melbourne, Australia will be celebrated on 21 August
2004 at Springvale City Hall, Springvale, Melbourne.  The theme will be identity
and assimilation with other cultures.

The overwhelming response we had last year (where 380 Goans came together to
celebrate the first official World Goa Day, at St. Anthony's Hall, Noble Park)
has prompted the advisory committee to hire a larger venue this year, where a
crowd of 608 people are expected at this rendezvous.  In this celebration, we,
Goans, will once again remind ourselves of the need to work to preserve our
culture, music, history, language, cuisine and art for our children and our
Goans wherever they come from.

This will be an evening of Goan nostalgia, where Goans from the length and
breadth of Melbourne will meet to remind ourselves of our roots and rich culture
that we belong to. We, would like to encourage you all to parcipate and support
to work for the preservation of our WORLD GOAN HERITAGE throughout the year. 
Your suggestion on how to maintain our culture will be most welcome. We need to
break our thinking barriers and work toward an unified goal of preserving our
culture and togetherness.

For the love of Goa and our identity, we ask various groups in Melbourne and any
other parts of the GOANWORLD, to keep our differences aside at least JUST FOR
ONE DAY and join in SOLIDARITY  the celebration of 'World Goa Day'. Perhaps,
this day will be the springboard towards unification of different organisations
working in vacuum.

Last year a lot of Goans in Melbourne missed our celebration. I would therefore
request those interested to contact me or one of the following advisory
committee as soon as possible. Please also refer to our website www.goaday.com I
believe that we need to remian TOGETHER under the banner of one * WORLD GOA DAY *

Ellis Fernandes03 9729 3226
   0409 729 322

Gabriel 
Susan Figueiredo   0421 053 325

Henrietta Lobo 0403 612 175

Newton Marques 03 9764 3770
   0421 465 313

Oscar Pinto03 9557 7698
   0422 005 120

Oscar Lobo 03 9563 9918
   0404 848 345

Oscar C. Lobo
Co-ordinator
WORLD GOA DAY - MELBOURNE
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[Goanet]Re: Abbe Faria v/s Mesmer

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:54:59 +0530, Bosco de Sousa Eremita
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


All,

It was good to see the quick response following Fr. J. Loiola Pereira's query on
Abbe Faria. However, his request inviting inputs on the challege Abbe Faria
reportedly had with Mesmer remains unanswered.

One of the aspects about Abbe Faria,  told to me as a student of Don Bosco,
Panaji  by my teachers   was that  Abbe Faria disputed the theory put forward by
Mesmer.

Mesmer claimed that during  hypnotism, it was the power  from the hypnotist 
which flowed onto the person, leading  the person into a  hypnotic trance. Abbe
Faria however said that the person was hypnotised through his own power.

I am not sure whether Fr. J. Loiola Pereira's  query is answered here, but would
anyone having knowledge of  the work of this great Goan come forward?

-- BDSE

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[Goanet]Re: NESSA MANHA, A LIBERDADE - By: Alberto Leitao

2004-03-10 Thread Constantino Xavier


Good evening,

Mr. Alberto Leitao cites the following articles:

- NESSA MANHA, A LIBERDADE, 20th December 03, by Fernando do Rego, Panjim,
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=415
- RESPOSTA a Crónica NESSA MANHÃ A LIBERDADE, 13th Jan. 04, by Francisco 
Monteiro, Lisbon
http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_recorte.asp?c_news=426

There was a large debate on these and other articles, but unfortunately 
restricted to private e-mailing and Portuguese-speakers.

Regards,
Constantino
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Goa @ http://www.supergoa.com/


NESSA MANHA, A LIBERDADE
By: Alberto Leitao
1st. March, 2004
  1.. This has reference to  the above article dated 20/12/03 by Mr. 
Fernando Rego on supergoa.com website  in regard to Goa's Liberation.
  1.. In this article, Mr. Rego considers Vassalo e Silva ,...
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[Goanet]Sports Management in Goa

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:18:43 + (GMT), subhadip maitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DEAR SIR,

I AM A DIPLOMA HOLDER IN  SPORTS MANAGEMENT LOOKING  FOR OPENINGS  I LIFE I THE
FIELD OF SPORTS INDUSTRY IN GOA. PLEASE  GUIDE  ME.

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[Goanet]RE: 09 MAR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 07:41:09 +, brooke belle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

DATE: 09.03.2004

DEAR SIR,

I AM A GOAN RESIDING IN UAE FOR A LONG TIME. HOWEVER, I STILL HAVE THE URGE TO
KNOW ABOUT MY HOME PLACE

THANKS YOU VERY MUCH FOR SENDING NEWS OF GOA.

BEST REGARDS

BROOKE.

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[Goanet]Leanne Fernandes

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:59:24 +0400, Jackson Pereira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Forward this to all who you think can help

10 year-old Leanne Fernandes from Dubai who is suffering from a relapse of Bone
Marrow Cancer. She requires expensive surgery and her time is quickly running
out... If anyone would like to make a contribution, please read further through
the link below.

http://www.modernhighschool.com/

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[Goanet]Portuguese passport

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:28:21 +0400, Ceazer Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date 8th March 2004

Dear Sir,

I am from GOA, working in Abu Dhabi for the past 8 years as a Sacretary for the
Construction Co. 

I would like to apply for the Portugusee passport and have no idea How to do
that.

Please give me some details how to obtain the same, for which I shall be
greatfull to you.

Awaiting reply as soon as possible.

Ceazer Gomes

Please reply to my hotmail ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Yahoo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Goanet]Re: Who coined 'Bollywood'? - H R F Keating or Bevinda Collaco?

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 06:23:49 -0800 (PST), bevinda collaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Dear Cecil,

It's easy to find out.  If Keating or whoever can offer watertight proof of
Bollywood being coined by them before December 1978, then it's a question of
'fools seldom differing'. I had thought of calling my column Follywood Flop, but
then a scriptwriter  got all hot and bothered when I ran it by him and said just
because I didn't watch Hindi films I had no right to run them down. The column I
was given to handle was Studio Beat. I changed it to On the Bollywood Beat. I am
not too proud of the word because it was essentially meant to ridicule. Dev
Anand had just come out with a film starring Tina Munim, now Ambani and it was a
straight lift from My Fair Lady with similar tunes too. Now though, whenever I
read it or hear it or see it, I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

If someone coined it before me, while I would feel a sense of loss, there'd be
definite relief too; that I wasn't the only skunk who thought it up.

And hey, Shobha De was doing Neeta's Natter, ask her if she coined the word.

You can check with Ciine Bliitz magazine. They have a record of the exact date
it was first used by me.

Regards
Bevinda Collaco

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[Goanet]THE GARBAGE THAT NOBODY WANTS

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:30:34 +0530, Goasuraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

THE GARBAGE THAT NOBODY WANTS.

Some days ago, as I was coming home from the city of  Mapusa, whilst crossing
the Mapusa Bridge (Near the Milagres Church) I saw a well dressed gentleman at
the bottom of the bridge throwing his home trash into the river from his large
bag. I instinctively stop my two wheeler at the end of the bridge (Bastora end).
I saw that the gentleman had his scooter parked at the ramp and it was carrying
two more bags of garbage and trash. When I called out to him to draw his
attention, he merely glanced my way and continued doing what he was doing. I
drew his attention again, this time with the mobile phone in my hand, and asked
him to stop what he was doing. Take your trash and dump it in the closest trash
bin you find in the city I told him. I also told him that what he was doing did
not befit his educated types. To that he puts his hands up in sort of
frustration and walk to the edge of the jetty to dump the load on the bank of
the river. I showed him my mobile and told him that if he did not leave the
place with his baggage, I would call the police. I had to repeat to him that I
was serious. I told him that the river was not his garbage bin. I waited there
until he re-started his scooter and left with his baggage.

Yesterday, as I was going to the office,  I saw a goods rickshaw stopped at the
Moira bridge (Mapusa side), having emptied his load of packaging trash on the
edge of the river, the driver was sweeping the carriage of the rick. I stopped
my car, got out, and approached the driver. To my query, the driver told me that
the rickshaw was from Bicholim. You think that this is your backyard that you
have dumped your trash?  I asked him. To that he coolly told me that he could 
push the trash into the river and that nobody would see it. No, I said. You
will reload your trash into your rickshaw, now, and take it to the next trash
bin and dump it, or else, you will be sitting in the cop station.  He did just
that and vanished. I was half hour late to the office, but satisfied.

Today, being Sunday, I went to Porvorim to visit my brother and to borrow his
Sumo for the day, since my car was giving me gear-shift problem.  (My brother
being away in Chennai).  On my way back, at midway from Green Park Hotel and
Mapusa junction ( close to the highway bridge),   I see the Mapusa Municipality
Garbage truck  no. GA-01-G-3508  unloading its full load of City garbage into
the river (Bastora side). I was a bit late to stop the dumping but just as well.
By the time I got out of the Sumo, the truck had parked on my side, waiting for
the workers to jump in. I approached the driver and asked him to get down. Who
told you to dump the garbage here? Nobody he said. I did it on my own
because today being Holi, I was getting late  What is your name?   Rajesh
he said. See Rajesh, I told him, you re-load this garbage and take it to the
proper dumping site (if there is one)  and dump it there.  Patrao,  he said,
I will put fire to it and it will vanish. No  I said, you will do no such
thing. This load has plastics in it. You start re-loading – Now or face the
music He obliged, by shouting at his workers to get going. I watched the
re-loading  operation for 5 minutes  and left,  promising the driver that I
would be back in 30 minutes. I came home, called up Mathew Pereira (Colvale) of
Goa Foundation who is looking after the garbage clearance, reported to him the
situation, asked him to come and get pictures and headed back to the site on my
way to the office for a meeting. To my surprise, I saw the dump smouldering with
a huge column of smoke and the truck in no sight. I took a round about at Green
Park and headed straight to the MMC garbage truck parking yard,  off Alankar
Cinema. The truck was parked on the road with no sign of the crew.

Mathew Pereira has reported to me that he has taken the pictures and that
according to him, the entire load is a compostible garbage. That he has spoken
to the Municipal Engineer  and that he would do the necessary,  Monday morning.
He also told me that the Engineer concerned was protesting that no such thing is
being done. Mathew says he told the Engineer  that  the person who has caught
the truck red handed was none other than Floriano Lobo of Goa Environmental
Action Group who is also the President of the   Goa Su-Raj Party.

In view of the above, the most critical problem that we face in Goa is the
proper and hygienic disposal of our garbage. Our present government is more
interested in IFFI-ing  Goa rather than trying to keep it clean.  What we see
presently is that our house-hold garbage finds its way on our road sides, 
packed neatly in plastic bags. And these little packages do not remain neat for
long, courtesy our stray dogs and cattle.  Come to Moira and the Panchayat bin
that is placed at the beginning of the Moira- patto (guinnikar) is designed to
grow with the garbage. It has never 

[Goanet]Re: IN THE WILD: Of stray dogs and other concerns... (by Rahul Alvares)

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:54:46 -0500, Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there some central organization in Goa, like the ASPCA  in the United States
that can be contacted by concerned people like Rahoul to contribute their
services,l ideas or other measures to ensure that dogs, cats and other of God's
creatiures  receive humane treatment?

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[Goanet]Re: 05 MAR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:58:21 +0530, Arlette Azavedo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Joel,

Nice receiving ur news clippings.  Thanks,

Well, if you cd. send me some clippings relating to issues around Mapusa. I
would appreciate it.

I do go on ur website to check out for the latest.

Regards.  Keep in touch.

Ms. Arlette Azavedo,
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[Goanet]Secretary /Exec Admn Asst job wanted (Attachment removed)

2004-03-10 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 04:03:43 -0800 (PST), Rodrigues Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Dear Friends  Goans,

Pls would you let me know if any vacany arises for the post of Secretary /Exec
Adminstrative Asst in the Gulf region. My resume is attached with this email.

I stay in Bombay.

Many thanks,

(Jim Rodrigues)

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[Goanet]UPCOMING BOOK: Abbe Faria -- Hypnotist, Priest and Revolutionary (by Laurent Carrer)

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Thanks to Dr Teotonio R de Souza for pointing me to this site. FN

http://www.trance-lations.com/defaria.html
  

+--
| Coming in 2004:  
| Jose Custodio de Faria:  
|   Hypnotist, Priest and Revolutionary
|  
| A book by Laurent Carrer, Ph.D.  
|  
| Featuring:   
|   
| The English translation of three works written in French: 
|   
|  Two 1906 scholarly studies by Dr. Daniel Gelasio Dalgado of the
| Royal Academy of Sciences in Lisbon: 
|
|  Memoir on the Life of Abbe Faria, copious biographical data
| unavailable anywhere else, | retracing in detail the famous priest's life
| from his native Goa to his adoptive Paris, by way  of Lisbon.  
| 
|  Dr. Dalgado's preface and introduction to a 1906 reprint of
| Faria's book; in his front matter, he presents a technical analysis of
| Faria's methods and theories.  
| 
|  The translation of the 1906 reprint of Faria's 1819 opus On the
| Cause of Lucid Sleep.
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[Goanet]COMMENT: Bailo Lok -- outside what? (By Isabel de Santa Rita Vas)

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Bailo Lok -- outside what? 

Isabel de Santa Rita Vas

The Chinese use an intriguing curse:  May you live in interesting times! A
curse, yes -- the implication being that times of trouble and upheaval are
the interesting ones, when the storms of life slap you black and blue, and
perhaps widen your eyes. 

The Chinese ought to know, their close acquaintance with excruciatingly
interesting times makes for dramatic history. As a theatre aficionado and a
writer for the stage, I find myself crazily envying the interesting times
that created a Gabriel Garcia Marquez or a Toni Morrison or an Athol Fugard.

Does Goa need the ferment of cursed times, of social confusion and collapse
so that vital themes will weave themselves into great literature? If so, are
the rumbles we hear underground, the divisive and fragmenting
'speak-bitterness' we find gaining credence, a sign of interesting times
underfoot? Perhaps. Hopefully not. Perhaps we can recognize the moment of
possibility in the heart of the present moment and give it creative
purchase. Perhaps. No moment comes with any guarantees. Only possiblitities.

Cursed times in Carnival Goa? Sun, sand, blah-blah-blah. 

Nah? Goa's synonymous with peace or at least apathy. Listen again. Yesterday
the cyclist was knocked down by a 'non-Goan' motor-cyclist speeding down the
Chicalim road. Last week a group of people marched into the premises of two
shack owners by the beach and demanded they shut shop. On being told that
the proprietors had the necessary licences to run the restaurants, the
locals were incensed -- outsiders should be booted out, they claimed. The
gang-rape by migrants is a blot on our image. 

Beware of migrants. The government spokesman declared that the commercial
sex-workers were outsiders from Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka and ought to be
the responsibility of those States. The children of the traders on the
beaches of Goa are said to be vulnerable to foreign paedophiles. These
outsiders are a bit of a nuisance, why don't they go elsewhere? 

Blacken the face of that high-handed official, he is promoting his own
cronies, and he is and outsider, what cheek! Environmentalist, that man? But
he is an outsider! Bailo Lok amkam kiteak zai? Let's take out a morcha,
Goans first, outsiders last. Let's pass a law outlawing outsiders, Goa for
insiders. Exclusively. Well, provided no Goans apply. You outsiders?!

Still an undertone. Still hesitant. But the hysteria in the chorus of voices
is unmistakable. And to my mind, enormously scary. 'Reasonable' arguments
are propounded to prove the point: it is an economy of scarcity, we need to
look after our own, don't we? 

Of course -- the arguments of all fascists and fundamentalists and
sanitizers of society have always had a following, what argument is
absolutely devoid of 'reason'? Over six million Jews were not exterminated
single-handedly by Hitler, but by believers in his hysterical 'reasoning'.

Paranoia often wears ornate 'civilized' masks. The keystone to assess it
might be to ask---is it an unifying idea or a fragmenting one? Does it
consider a wide human perspective or does it draw chalk circles that shut in
and out and alienate?

When  Goa joined the Indian Union the 'frontiers' Goans had to negotiate to
travel to Belgaum or Bombay or Calcutta in search of employment were erased.
Free movement was a relief and brought a sense of home-coming. Also, in the
recesses of the mind, some anxiety. Are we going to be swamped by the
'outside'? 

Anxiety is not always wholly logical. 

We have migrated for centuries in search of educational opportunities, of
employment, of wider horizons. The compulsions of social reality have turned
out to be long term blessings. The world becomes our playground, we find it
easy to be at home almost anywhere. More, our remittances home bolster the
economy in obvious ways. More, we contribute with concrete skills to the
lands of adoption, even as the tug of the homeland endures. 

Here is the formation of rich social capital. This has been our reality, our
past, our present, most certainly is to be our future. But we are not
unique. Migration and cross-country movement is after all part of world
history.

Goa, some claim today, is 'the best' State in India. What has made it so?
The beaches and the moderate weather, haven't they been around for some
considerable time now? Perhaps some of the infrastructural facilities oil
the wheels of the welcome. 

I am mindful of the thousands of masons, carpenters, plumbers, teachers,
doctors, businesspersons, administrators and planners from 'outside' Goa who
have contributed enormously to strengthen the edifice of this economy and
society. 

In what sense can I see them as outsiders? Only in the same sense that a
tight-lipped Brit spits in the face of a dark-skinned passer-by on the
sidewalk in London with a venomous Paki, go home! Best State? Perhaps it
is the legendary hospitality of Goans that has been at the heart of its
charm? If so, where is 

Re: [Goanet]Goan political activity in Goa

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Mervyn Lobo wrote:

 As far as curruption in Goa is concerned, only the
 residents there can get rid of currupt politicians. It
 amazes me that every time I go to (and especially
 south) Goa, everyone shouts that the representatives
 are criminals. Yet these very same people get VOTED
 into office again and again. 


Who decides?
---

In theory, it is the 9,32,439 registered voters who are going to decide the
two names that represent Goa in the Lok Sabha. In reality, it is the egos
and agendas of a handful of key power-brokers that will say how things shape
up. Therefore, political decisions in the state need to be taken with both
transparency and accountability -- not behind closed doors, by small
coteries, and in a manner that keeps everyone guessing what the real agenda
is.

Our political scenario today is a cross between a chaotic marketplace, and a
crashing stock-market where each broker wants to make the most.

Take the UGDP. It has no pretensions about being able to win any one of the
two Lok Sabha seats; neither does it have any national-level perspective.
In recent times, its role has been largely one of mopping up support in the
minority Catholic segments and gain anti-Congress, anti-incumbent votes.
For the BJP, this is a god-send. Parties like the UGDP can at least block
the Congress from winning a few critical seats in areas which the BJP could
never dream of conquering, thanks to the latter's self-defined brand image.

Then there are parties like the CPI, which while being more principled in
making its presence felt at every election (though not in every seat), have
made the contesting of the elections little more than a ritual in which
they're sure to lose.

After a whole lot of noisy promises, the so-called 'Secular Front' in Goa
threatens to come unstuck. Will it get derailed even before getting started?
It could, thanks to the badly cross-purposed plans of its self-declared
leaders and short-sighted visionaries. Those trying to broker this political
marriage seem to now realise that transferring all Congress votes to the MGP
in North Goa would be an uphill struggle, thanks to the political ghosts of
the past. If Goa is to belatedly move away from communally-polarised
politics, then it probably makes sense to see not just Hindus and Christians
but Muslims too jointly negotiate political space, minus the mistrust that
sees each other like an alien enemy from Mars. 

This reality apart, the enthusiasm of politicians like ex-CM Pratapsing Rane
in reportedly pushing for giving the North Goa seat to the MGP is also
suspect. This is already being read in various ways -- from not wanting to
antagonise a chief minister he hardly effectively opposed as the Leader of
the Opposition... to not wanting to take on responsibility for a likely
Congress defeat. At the end of the day, all politicians appreciate that the
election result would depend largely on that much talked-of 'index of
Opposition unity', which the BJP has so far worked smartly to its advantage.
But all our politicians are clear: they want unity on their own terms. If
not, a lost seat is preferable.

Veteran editor Vinod Mehta puts its realistically when he says: There are
millions in this country who passionately support the Congress and
reluctantly put up with its present leader. They support the party's sane,
decent, inclusive vision: a plural, secular, non-communal, non-casteist
India committed to rescuing the 400-million citizens of our republic who are
clearly not 'shining' because they do not know where their next meal is
coming from. However, when I see the durbar around Sonia, when I see the
combination of terror and awe on their faces as they approach her... I am
not surprised that the Congress has fallen hook, line and sinker for the
trap laid out by Messrs Mahajan, Venkaiah and Jaitley. We need not blame
Soniaji alone; look what's happened to the party leadership in Goa too.

For the BJP, known to play by its wits at every election, this is not just
another election. On these results depend the image of BJP's grip over
Goa, the future of the Parrikar government, and even the long-term fate of
the BJP in Goa. Finally, the game of electoral 'chess' that has been played
with increasing cynicism of late -- a weak candidate against a Dr de Souza,
someone propped up to topple Victoria Mummy Fernandes,
you-help-me-and-I-help-you deals, and more... -- are going to turn even more
critical.

The electorate has many reasons to be watchful. 

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[Goanet]On lighting a lighter candle . . .

2004-03-10 Thread dommartin9

ON LIGHTING A LIGHTER CANDLE . . . 

Although I may be an absentee vote on a number of ballots that keep surfacing 
on Goanet, I cannot help but be humored by the occasional ego-rattling, name dropping, 
or names getting dropped from the list for name-calling!  

Or, humored at such other times when a simple kilobyte-issue escalates into a 
mega-Gigahertz ball, slipping out of hand and roaring downfield!   Or, when one netter 
lights a candle to quell another netter's unbearable groan about the darkness into 
which that one has descended, or is about to draw others into.  Or, at the mechanical 
ease with which we shackle a whole new assembly of wheels to the existing set of 
wheels that were fated to get stuck in the mucky issue!

As a resourceful minority in the larger scheme of survival, we Goans have 
managed to remain closely interwoven in one another's woes, aspirations, outlook or 
downfall, so much so that it can be almost ascertained that the virus manifesting 
itself on one Goan's harddrive has nothing to do with the Doidiro at the other end!  
Even more comforting is the fact that in this age of Megahertz and Gigahertz, we are 
still accustomed to routinely herding ourselves into our self-righteous bandwagon, and 
parking it center stage in time's theater.  So long as the movie is on, we have 
nothing to complain.  It's when the movie stops that we get agitated and start staring 
at each other, and kneading menacing-looking balls, and letting them drop for the 
other guy to go after; or lighting candles, even going online to check for a set of 
new or used wheels!

We do, however, have our sense of humor at the other's expense and caliber.  
But when the calibration misfires, we draw out our Portuguese era 12-bore guns.  Great 
care is taken though to aim high, so as to avoid needless bloodshed, or the downing of 
a yippie crow on its first sabbatical.  And speaking of birds and their unconditional 
droppings, in our pursuit of transcendental BS, it is not uncommon to find ourselves 
grabbing the 'S' by its horn rather than the 'B'!

All said and done and no matter what or where, we do stand our ground and 
haven't yet gone underground, become dismembered or extinct like the Dodo.  Time and 
over again, we have exhibited a remarkable resilience to tolerate one another, and to 
light a candle rather than curse the shadow or the darkness emanating from the other's 
grand standing on a defunct issue.  And when a non-assuming candle fails to dispel the 
gloom or the community moan, someone -- much larger than hope -- rushes to the scene, 
lights a homemade candle from both ends and in that moment of expedited illumination, 
everyone instantly rebounds to the realization that it is a beautiful morning and 
heads for the outdoors!  Such lightning exit is not without enlightenment, as it 
adequately reminds us that there is all kinds of darkness out there, and at times, it 
is not too late to curse the candle instead!

Dom Martin




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Re: [Goanet]Re: Portuguese translation -- 100x , 1000x

2004-03-10 Thread Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
All the good and bad (not so bad but with minor gramatical errors)
translations
remind me of two good examples given by the English teachers when dealing
with translations from Portuguese into English .

The sentence in Portuguese is: Mau Maria, Mau Maria! Se nao te portas bem,
estas ai, estas a comer.
Translation: Bad Maria, Bad Maria! If you don't doors well, you are there,
you are eating.

Every single Portuguese word is covered in the translation, but is the
translation correct?

The other phrase is: Mas sobretudo eu fiz isso.
Translation: But overcoat I did this.

Livia

- Original Message -
From: Rui Collaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Goanet]Re: Portuguese translation -- 100x , 1000x



 The corrections aren't over yet:

 No Portuguese speaker would ever say tantas vezes que for necessário.
This
 is incorrect, bad Portuguese.

 Tantas vezes quantas for necessário would be the normal expression.


 Rui Manuel Collaço




 For me, hundred times, or thousand times continue to mean as many
 times..
 , and Loiola Pereira's (cem vezes) or Jorge Abreu's (mil vezes) are as
 good
 
 as my tantas vezes que for necessário.
 
 Teotonio R. de Souza





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[Goanet]Jews, Goa... and India

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
There was much discussion on the issue of Jews in Goa, and hence I thought
of posting this from the Usenet (see http://groups.google.com -- a great
place to search for information you otherwise can't find on the web). FN
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 Subject: Question 13.9: Who Are The Jews of India, And What Are Their
  Origins?

   Answer:
   
India has a legacy of four distinct Jewish groups: the Bene Israel,
the Cochin Jews, the Sephardic Jews from Europe, and the Baghdadis
from Iraq. Each group practiced important elements of Judaism and had
active synagogues. The Sephardic rites predominate among Indian Jews.
   
One of the most important Jewish peoples of India are the Bene Israel
(Sons of Israel), whose main population centers were Bombay,
Calcutta, Old Delhi, and Ahmadabad. The native language of the Bene
Israel was Marathi, while the Cochin Jews of southern India spoke
Malayalam.
   
The Bene Israel claim to be descended from Jews who escaped
persecution in Galilee in the 2nd century BCE. The Bene Israel
resemble the non-Jewish Maratha people in appearance and customs,
which indicates intermarriage between Jews and Indians. However, the
Bene Israel maintained the practices of Jewish dietary laws,
circumcision, and observation of Sabbath as a day of rest.
   
The Bene Israel say their ancestors were oil pressers in the Galil and
they are descended from survivors of a shipwreck. In the 18th Century
they were discovered by traders from Baghdad. At that time the Bnei
Israel were practicing just a few outward forms of Judaism (which is
how they were recognised) but had no scholars of their own. Teachers
from Baghdad and Cochin taught them mainstream Judaism in the 18th and
19th centuries.
   
Jewish merchants from Europe travelled to India in the medieval period
for purposes of trade, but it is not clear whether they formed
permanent settlements in south Asia. Our first reliable evidence of
Jews living in India comes from the early 11th century. It is certain
that the first Jewish settlements were centered along the western
coast. Abraham ibn Daud's 12th century reference to Jews of India is
unfortunately vague, and we do not have further references to Indian
Jews until several centuries later.
   
The first Jews in Cochin (southern India) were the so-called Black
Jews, who spoke the Malayalam tongue. The Sephardic Jews settled
later, coming to India from western European nations such as Holland
and Spain. A notable settlement of Spanish and Portuguese Jews
starting in the 15th century was Goa, but this settlement eventually
disappeared. In the 17th and 18th centuries, Cochin had an influx of
Jewish settlers from the Middle East, North Africa, and Spain.
   
The Jews of Cochin say that they came to Cranganore (south-west coast
of India) after the destruction of the Temple in 70ce. They had, in
effect, their own principality for many centuries until a chieftanship
dispute broke out between two brothers in the 15th century. The
dispute led neighbouring princes to dispossess them. In 1524, the
Moors, backed by the ruler of Calicut (today called Kozhikode)
attacked the Jews of Cranganore on the pretext that 

[Goanet]National Football League: Dempo edge past Tollygunge

2004-03-10 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Dempo edge past Tollygunge
March 10, 2004 19:21 IST
Title aspirants Dempo Sports Club, Goa edged past Tollygunge Agragami 
2-1 to brighten up their prospects in an unimpressive but eventful 
National Football League match at Kolkata on Wednesday.

Medio Clifford Miranda, who played a stellar role in the middle, opened 
the account for the Goans in the 68th minute before substitute Wilton 
Gomes struck the winner in the 77th minute to cull full points from the 
rain-interrupted away match at the Salt Lake stadium.

Tollygunge youngster Gauranga Dutta, who came as a replacement, earlier 
restored parity in the 73rd minute to bring the hosts back into the game 
albeit for a brief period.

With this victory, Dempo moved up to the second spot in the league table 
with 27 points from 14 outings - below leaders East Bengal, who have an 
equal number of points from 13 matches.

Tollygunge, on the other hand, accentuated their relegation risks and 
were now placed only above Indian Bank with just 13 points from 14 matches.

Dempo, who were held 1-1 in the first round, took a cautious approach 
and relied mostly on counter attacks while Tollygunge went on the 
offensive from the start but failed to convert any of the chances that 
came their way.

After a barren first half, the match got back some colour in the second 
session which saw three goals in 10 minutes.

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[Goanet]Re: No doubt Goa is corrupt! - Miguel Braganza

2004-03-10 Thread Jose Colaco

--- Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Dotor,

I missed the posting from Jorge/Livia. Was it on
goanet?

I did not wish to imply that corruption does not exist
in India/Goa. It does. I have quoted an example
myself. We do need to stick to the facts.

Corruption is not an Indian/Bharati forte. Enron isn't
an Indian Company, neither is Union Carbide,Cargil nor
Mossanto nor Ciba Geigy. Indians did not get the
contracts to re-build Iraq. Antonio Noreiga was not
Indian, neither was Ortega, Papa Doc Duvalier or
Aristide, not Nixon nor Kissinger.

Goans are of the Indian sub-continent. They are as
good, or as bad , as the other Indians. I have talked
of the so-called Freedom Fighter who was very much a
Goan. Ramakant Khalap, Somnath Zuarkar, Prakash Fadte,
Luizinho Faleiro, Mauvin Godinho,etc are all Goans who
are not famous for their honesty and integrity.

We have to expose specific cases of corruption...not
label a class of
people.

Viva Goa.

Miguel





Dear Miguel,

I agree with a lot of what you have written.

Please see this post (accesible if you have Yahoo)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Goa-Goans/message/15121


As you have illustrated, Indians do not hold the
monopoly on Corruption which occurs all over the
world. You have given very valid examples.

However, I will suggest to you that there are very FEW
other places in the world where One has to give
BAKSHISH in order to cross the door 'guarded' by a
peon, or to get a driver's license, ration card, birth
certificate, passport, electricity connection, phone
installation...or to have a medical / surgical
procedure done sooner at a PUBLIC hospital etc.

There are VERY FEW other places in the world where one
has to PAY DONATIONS just to be admitted to to
kindergarten. Remember, FEES are additional.

There are VERY VERY FEW other countries where
Politicians will Dine, Wine and Entertain at 1 star -
5 star facilities and expect the public to pay for it.

My question to Mr. Nair was very simple.and I ask
anyone who might know the answer: WAS the Bakshish
system more or less prevelant in Goa before 1961?

High level white collar crime occurs in all
countries...but not No Collar Bakshish like what goes
on in India ( and by extension - in Goa since 1961 )

As they say Ostrich who bury head in sand - think
everybody stoopidh.

regards

jc


BTW: here is info Comedy Central's Pintobab can use -



http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/aug/28corupt.htm

India among 30 most corrupt countries: Survey
India ranks among the 30 most corrupt nations,
according to a survey by a leading international
non-government organisation. 



http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?artid=31583310sType=1
Indians pay Rs 26,728 cr as bribe annually: Study -
The Times of India 
PTI[ TUESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2002 08:09:32 PM ]
 
NEW DELHI: Indians spend a whopping Rs 26,728 crore
annually on paying bribes with the health sector being
one of the most corrupt fields, a survey conducted by
a non-government organisation said.  
 
Sadly, corruption is most rampant in those two
sectors (health and education) where top priority
should be given in a developing country, said
Transparency India Chairman R H Tahiliani. 

According to a survey among industrialists based
outside the country, India ranked among 30 most
corrupt nations of the world, which is not good for
our economy, he said.

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[Goanet]RK Nair has no right to question Dr. Colaco!

2004-03-10 Thread Cecil Pinto
Radhakrishnan Nair wrote

You never cease to amaze me, Dr Colaco! Let me ask you: Before 1961, how
many people sent their wards to elite schools?
For your information, this is a problem of relatively recent origin and is
not limited to Goa alone. It has been written about umpteen times in the
national and regional press
Please don't look at everything thru the prism of 'before  after 1961'!
Regards, RKN 
-

Dear Mr. Nair,

From your surname I am presuming you are a 'voilo' and therefore have no 
right to comment on matters regarding Goa and Goans even if you live and 
work in Goa. The honourable Dr. Colaco can look through whatever prism (or 
more likely telescope) he wants to and that is none of your business, you 
Keralite Koconut!!

Dr. Colaco will indeed continue to amaze you Madrassi Mossambi. However 
convoluted a route Dr. Colaco may take to bring EVERTHING into the gamut of 
his theory regarding the garbage heap that Goa currently is, one must admit 
he does return to the same point thus making a perfect circle.

The most honourable Dr. Colaco has in fact pointed out in his award winning 
web-journal All That Ails Goa that it is Goa Journalists like you Punjabi 
Pumpkin, and any other Goan journos with an ' r ' in their names, who are 
responsible for post 1961 degeneration of Goa into a Raulesque Siddhian 
Sanskritisation.

Dr. Colaco has outlined ALL the reasons why Goa is in the total mess it is. 
He has very clearly proven that pre-1961 was the height of Goan achievement 
and after the Portuguese left there has been nothing but filth and squalor 
(and more recently bakshish). Dr. Colaco may not have any solutions, or 
anything positive to say about present day Goa, but at least he is not a 
part of the problem, as he is distantly located.

Let me assure you that Dr. Colaco is well informed about happenings in Goa 
and India. He reads all the online periodicals everyday and when he says 
something about the state of Goa it is from direct second-hand experience. 
And you dare not question his constant criticism of Goans in Goa. Dr. 
Colaco has lived in many places in India and abroad and has finally 
returned to the place that is closest to his heart - after cyberspace that is.

And before you Gujarati Guava start saying that Dr. Colaco is enamoured of 
the Portuguese please consider what Goa would have been without the 
Portuguese. We might have become a heartless thriving metropolis like 
Mumbai, or a faceless Information Technology hub like Bangalore or so many 
other worthless things. Thanks to the Portuguese we are what we were till 
1961 (after which no progress absolutely has occurred). Imagine what great 
glory we Goans would have had if the Portuguese had continued to rule us 
till today.

In concluding I would quote to you Tamilian Turnip from Dr. Colaco's All 
Encompassing Theory...What did the Freedom Fighters do after 1961 while I 
was watching from a distance?

Cheers!

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[Goanet]visit to goa

2004-03-10 Thread Eugene Correia
Hi goanetters,

I will be in Goa from March 12 for a brief period. I
can be reached in Bogmalo at telephone 832-2538004.

Would like to meet goanetters.

Cheers,

Eugene

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[Goanet]Maestro Fernando crosses a Century and...

2004-03-10 Thread Cecil Pinto
Maestro Fernando, the 100 year old violinist.
By Willy Goes
The contribution to music of this family spans over five generations. The 
story began in the later half of nineteenth century. It cruised through the 
twentieth century and right into the twenty first century. The story gets 
more interesting when one learns that four of the five generations of 
musicians from this family are living, with the oldest, Maestro Fernando 
Francisco Simplicio Afonso completing a hundred years on second March 2004. 
The baton of musical custom is being carried by his son Mansueto Afonso, 
grandson Shelton Afonso of 'Shelton Goes Solo' one man band fame and 
Neville Monteiro, his eight year old great grandson who, at present is 
learning to play the violin, and plays very well for a beginner.

The musical tradition with this family began with an accomplished violinist 
Inacio Ubaldino S. Ana Afonso. Inacio had his own band which played for 
weddings and church feasts. This was towards the end of the nineteenth 
century. Inacio Afonso was a popular musician and was well known all over 
Salcette in the eighteen ninetees and the first two decades of the nineteen 
hundred. Maestro Inacio passed on the musical baton to his son Fernando 
Francisco Simplicio Afonso, who was born on 2nd March 1904 in Betalbatim. 
Fernando completed his primary education in Betalbatim and proceeded to 
finish his higher education, that is, Segundo Grau in Portuguese.

Besides being good in studies, he had another calling; a more soul stirring 
one: and that was of music. Fernando was barely ten years old when he began 
to learn the basics of music. It was the music school run by the Church in 
Betalbatim where he got his initial education in music. His father, Inacio 
Ubaldino being an accomplished musician, wanted his son to carry on the 
family tradition, so he would further train him in playing the violin at 
home. It was not long till Fernando had fallen in love with music, and the 
violin. He simply did not want the violin out of his sight, so he stopped 
putting it in the violin case. It always lied open on the table so that he 
could just pick it up and play it any time whenever he felt like playing; 
sometimes even between bites of his meals so to say. The violin had almost 
become an annex of his body, as he was seen with his violin very often.

Fernando moved to the neighbouring state of Maharashtra to look for better 
prospects for his musical proficiency, and soon joined an orchestra in 
Devlali in Maharashtra. This orchestra which was popular in that region 
played music for dances. His musical genius was noticed and in 1927 
Fernando was selected to play in a string orchestra for the Maharaja of 
Malarocota in Punjab where his talents were greatly appreciated by the 
Maharaja. This was also the era of silent movies. Bands or orchestras would 
play the music while the silent film was being screened for public. 
Fernando had a stint of two years playing for silent films in Ambala.

In the year 1934 Maestro Fernando decided to return to Goa. On his return 
he joined as the Choir Master in Rosary Chapel in Caranzalem. His love for 
music was so great that he worked as a choir master for a pittance; that is 
Rs. 13/- a month, which, according to him was not even enough to cover the 
expenses of tea in a month in those days. But the love for music kept him 
going. With great difficulty he got the salary raised to Rs. 16/-, which 
did not make much of a difference. It was only after twenty long years that 
his salary was raised to Rs. 30/- a month, and that too with additional 
duties of a sacristan of the chapel. After a stint of twenty four years at 
the Rosary Chapel in Caranzalem, Maestro Fernando moved to St. Cruz, where 
he served as the choir master for another twenty one years, and then joined 
the Taliegao parish as the choir master where he worked for another twenty 
years. Maestro Fernando dedicated sixty five years of his hundred years of 
existence, and nearly eighty years of his career in music as choir master 
in three parishes in Goa. Here he also contributed in enriching and 
nurturing the musical talents of the youth in Goa. During this time he also 
played for the Goa Symphony Orchestra in various concerts. He was also 
awarded a cash prize from Maestro Fr. Camilo Xavier for being the oldest 
living musician.

Maestro Fernando's brother, Antonio Afonso was also a self-taught and an 
accomplished musician. He played the flute and was remarkably good at it. 
He was a much sought after musician. He joined a band in Mysore, but fate 
had something else in store for him. He died under mysterious circumstances 
at a very young age.

Maestro Fernando's son, Mansueto Afonso learned to play the violin under 
Maestro Fr. Camilo Xavier at Escola de Musica and he passed his grades at 
Trinity College, London.  For Mansueto, music had to take a back seat as he 
served the Government of Goa in many important posts. Today as the 

[Goanet]Women’s organization resort to rasta roko to protest murder of minor

2004-03-10 Thread Goa Desc
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Women's body resort to rasta roko to protest murder of minor
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Bailancho Ekvott, a women's association today resorted to rasta roko
in protest against the gang rape and murder of a minor girl at Betul.
The agitated locals also extended their support to the association who
held rasta roko here at Banda, Velim demanding that the police should
take stern action against those involved directly or indirectly in the case
of gang rape and murder of the 11 year-old girl.
The president of the association, Ms Auda Viegas strongly demanded
that police should not hesitate in booking the culprits. It's a black spot
on the women who celebrate the world Women's Day today, Ms Viegas
said.
Speaking to The Navhind Times, Ms Viegas said that though
Women's Day is celebrated today, such incident brings in shame
and depicts that they are yet to enjoy liberty.
The gathered women called off the rasta roko after the cops assured
the association that they would book the culprits.We have given ten
days time to book the culprits or else we will be forced to agitate again,
said Ms Viegas.
She also said that in the last week, when the world is preparing to
celebrate the World Women's Day, three murder cases has been
reported in the state.
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The Navhind Times 9/3/04
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[Goanet]Re: Lecture on Augustinian convent, Old Goa

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, sidh mendiratta wrote:


 Dear All,
  
 this is just to inform, as some may already know, that on the 13th of 
 march, most certainly in the afternoon, there will be a lecture held at 
 Goa University, by Mr. Taher, Mr. Abidjit and myself on the topic 
 Recent Archeological findings at the Augustinian Conventual Complex
 at Old Goa
  
 I think it will be of interest to everyone concerned about Goan 
 heritage and history.
  
 thank you,
  
 sidh mendiratta
 
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[Goanet]TODAY'S GOACOM VIDEO NEWS

2004-03-10 Thread Joel D'Souza
You may browse today's
   GOACOM VIDEO NEWS
  at www.goacom.com/news

goacomNews09 Mar 04.
Uploaded: Mar-10-04 | 6 am
Duration: 6:33

H I G H L I G H T S:

- BJP BEGINS POLL CAMPAIGN: Shripad Naik confident of annexing the North Goa
seat again. Congress, MGP and NCP unity yet to take off.
- Minister for Power Digambar Kamat celebrates his 50th birthday in Margao.
- SHISHARANNI: A quaint Hindu Festival at Canacona temple in South, where
three devotees form a human fire-place on which food is cooked.

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[Goanet-news]TODAY'S GOACOM VIDEO NEWS

2004-03-10 Thread Joel D'Souza
You may browse today's
   GOACOM VIDEO NEWS
  at www.goacom.com/news

goacomNews09 Mar 04.
Uploaded: Mar-10-04 | 6 am
Duration: 6:33

H I G H L I G H T S:

- BJP BEGINS POLL CAMPAIGN: Shripad Naik confident of annexing the North Goa
seat again. Congress, MGP and NCP unity yet to take off.
- Minister for Power Digambar Kamat celebrates his 50th birthday in Margao.
- SHISHARANNI: A quaint Hindu Festival at Canacona temple in South, where
three devotees form a human fire-place on which food is cooked.

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[Goanet]NESSA MANHA, A LIBERDADE - By: Alberto Leitao

2004-03-10 Thread goasuraj
NESSA MANHA, A LIBERDADE
By: Alberto Leitao
1st. March, 2004


1. This has reference to  the above article dated 20/12/03 by Mr. Fernando
Rego on supergoa.com website  in regard to Goa's Liberation.

2. In this article, Mr. Rego considers Vassalo e Silva , the last Governor
General of Protuguese India,  as the hero of liberation  because he refused
to carry out the orders of dictator 'Salazar' for which he was subsequently
court marshaled . It is a fact that Vassalo e Silva saved Goa and Goans. But
today,  we Goans know who is plundering our beautiful State which had been
always peaceful.

3. Mr. Rego admits that many Goans will not accept the take-over of Goa as
liberation, but consider it as invasion. Mr. Rego, indeed, it was
invasion. At the orders of Nehru's Government,  Indian Military marched
into Goa and services of the  Navy and the Air Force were used to bombard
the Emissora de Goa ( Radio Station), the Dabolim Airport and other defence
installations, thus violating  all the U.N. General Assembly Resolutions.

4. Nehru who pretended to be a pacifist had always declared My Government
shall not use force to free Goa but as we all know, he was forced to,
because Goans never revolted against Salazar's rule, despite blockade and
sanctions imposed  by his Government. He knew that majority of the Goans
were against annexation but were in favor of self- de termination and that
too by peaceful means and under  the supervision of U.N.O.

5. Immediately after the invasion, Nehru declared My Government will
protect the interests and the identity of  the Goans,  but once again he
betrayed them. At that point of time the Congress was ruling with a brute
majority and his Government could easily grant statehood to Goa with special
status as in the case of Kashmir. It was Nehru who planted  the seeds of
discord amongst the different communities of Goa and since then there is no
unity amongst Goans.

6. Nehru,  when censured by the world leaders,  had the audacity to say that
Goa was part of India and that it had every right to annex it. But Nehru
failed to invade and annex Kashmir which was part of India,  and,  because
of his  misdeeds,  thousands of Kashmiris have been gunned down for the past
50 years and many Kashmiri  pandits live in exile.

7. I would request Mr. Rego to reply to the various pertinent questions
raised by Mr. Francisco Monteiro on the same website on 13/01/04
(supergoa.com-news).





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RE: [Goanet]Re: Portuguese translation -- 100x , 1000x

2004-03-10 Thread Rui Collaco
The corrections aren't over yet:

No Portuguese speaker would ever say tantas vezes que for necessário. This 
is incorrect, bad Portuguese.

Tantas vezes quantas for necessário would be the normal expression.

Rui Manuel Collaço




For me, hundred times, or thousand times continue to mean as many 
times..
, and Loiola Pereira's (cem vezes) or Jorge Abreu's (mil vezes) are as 
good

as my tantas vezes que for necessário.

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[Goanet]Implement Rule - Lose elections

2004-03-10 Thread Cecil Pinto
Joel's news clippings had this report:


SPELL OUT STAND ON HELMETS, CANDIDATES TOLD:
The Motorcycle Action group has urged two-wheeler riders to demand that the 
candidates contesting the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections make their stand 
clear on the helmet issue.
It has also demanded that the Goa government should immediately clarify its 
stand on the helmet rule in view of the fact that the traffic authorities 
are not implementing the rule as reportedly instructions have been given 
not to enforce the helmet rule till the Lok Sabha elections apparently to 
avoid any backlash from two-wheeler riders. MAG spokesman Adv Aires 
Rodrigues said that the enforcing authorities should not be given any 
unofficial instructions on implementation of the rule to differentiate any 
particular section of two-wheeler riders. (H)


Again Aires Rodrigues has made a brilliant observation. I predict that not 
a single candidate will make a clear statement on what they intend to do 
about the helmet rule. If any candidate clearly states that he will get 
this unpopular rule implemented immediately then he is sure to lose the 
election. And if he says he will get rid of the rule then he will not be 
able to keep his word once elected.

But then, on the other hand, nobody keeps their promises once they are 
elected. Should be fun to see how the candidates answer MAG's challenge to 
clarify their stand.

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[Goanet]Sanitary conditions in hair cutting saloons come under a scanner

2004-03-10 Thread Goa Desc
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Sanitary conditions in hair cutting saloons under scanner
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by Ramnath Raikar
The state government, after its recent cleanliness and hygiene drive
concerning eateries and their staff following the jaundice epidemic
witnessed by the city, has now decided to maintain a strict vigilance
over the sanitary conditions existing in the hair cutting saloons and
beauty parlours in the state.
It may be recalled that the directorate of health services (DHS) had
decided to make use of sterilisers mandatory for hair cutting saloons
and beauty parlours, for disinfecting the razors, scissors, tweezers, etc,
after their use, from January earlier this year. However, the decision
is yet to be implemented.
The Health Minister, Dr Suresh Amonkar talking to The Navhind Times
said that the Goa, Daman and Diu Public Health Act, 1985 (Act 25 of
1985) and Goa Public Health Rules, 1987 have clearly specified the
minimum requirement to run hair cutting saloons. He also expressed
disapproval about the delay in implementing the Act and the related rules,
and further observed that the government would no longer tolerate any
lethargy from the persons responsible for implementation of the same.
Most of the city barbers, when approached for reaction, refused to
comment on the issue. The owner of one of the oldest hair cutting
saloon in the city however, on the condition of anonymity, said that
most of the barbers do not adhere to the norms of the Act. They are
not even aware of the existence of such an Act, he pointed out.
He further stated that even the so called modern hair cutting saloons
which have an air conditioner, seldom carry out proper cleaning of
their instruments.
During Portuguese rule, he recalled, there were frequent inspections
by the health officials, which prompted the barbers to use clean
instruments and linen.
Dr Amonkar, further speaking said that the sanitary inspectors of the
DHS are expected to visit the hair cutting saloons and beauty parlours
every 15 days or at least every month, for inspection purpose, pointing
out that, the sanitary inspectors, as per the new Health Act, have been
provided with additional powers to take decisions on the spot and even
impose penalties on those who are not following the minimum requirements
of the Act.
Surprisingly, the sanitary inspectors  barring one instance wherein a
sanitary inspector fined an concern at Quepem for having a leaking tank
are rarely seen making use of their powers.
The secretary for health, Ms Debashree Mukherjee also agreed on the
issue and assured that the concerned officers would be directed to
maintain sanitary conditions in the hairdressing shops.
The Clause 10 of the Goa Public Health Rules, 1987, which were notified
in the Official Gazette on August 27, 1987, mentions about the minimum
requirement to run hair cutting saloon, such as sufficient number of
clean towels, white aprons for customers and white gowns for barbers,
availability of a stove and vessels for sterilising the equipments/ 
instruments
used for hairdressing, hair cutting and shaving, presence of disinfectants
like Lysol, 20 per thousand solution of aluminum sulphate, spirit or Dettol
and use of porcelain or glass containers for immersing instruments in
disinfectant solutions.

The Clause also says that the saloons should possess one wash basin
with tap, with running water for washing the utensils used in shaving and
cutting, besides proper arrangements for disposal of waste water.The Act
has made it compulsory to change the white apron for every person and
further notes that the same shall not be re-used for any other person
unless it is washed in the laundry.
All instruments shall be washed and cleaned and then kept immersed
in disinfectant for 15 minutes before using for other person, the Act states.
It also mentions that every worker employed in the hair cutting saloon
shall possess a valid health card issued by the local sanitary authority .
The sanitary card should be renewed every year, it points out.
It is up to the customers to lodge a complaint with the DHS authorities,
if the condition of cloths and instruments used by the hair cutting saloons
and beauty parlours is not satisfactory, Dr Amonkar suggested.
Meanwhile, a survey of the city hair cutting saloons revealed that not
many barbers take precaution to disinfect the instruments used by
them. The razors are often disinfected by dipping them in a vessel
containing week-old Dettol-water solution, while same piece of blade
is utilised for more than one customer. The quality 

[Goanet-news]AMAZING GOA: Poltodi, whitewash, Missa de Angelis, secret agent, aerial roots

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
THIS IS from Jose F P Lourenco's *Amazing Goa* set of cards. 
Priced Rs 200 per box, available from any Goa Handicrafts outlet. 
I was amazed at the trouble Jose Lourenco took to ensure the 
accuracy of the information contained in his cards. Rather untypical for a 
Goenkar venture ;-) Still, if you do come across any slip-ups, contact him 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Whose wedding does the Dancing Girl in the Dekhni
folk dance seek to attend? [Damu's wedding]

What is the whitewash used for houses and churches
in Goa traditionally made from? [Shell lime]

Who conducted the *Missa de Angelis* (Mass of Angels) with
a hundred students on the steps of the Panjim
church in 1943?  [Maestro Micael Martins]

Which Portuguese secret service agent was notorious
during the last years of Portuguese rule?
[Agente Casimiro Monteiro]

Which environmentally important riverside trees feature
aerial roots? [Mangroves]

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Re: [Goanet]Elite Schools query

2004-03-10 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Dr. [UNKNOWN] José Colaço wrote:

 Now.if you read my post in toto, you just might realise that I 
 wasn't referring to the Bakshish culture in School Entry alone.but 
 to the Bakshish culture completamente (;-)

Are you suggesting (i) that all things in Goa were generally better prior 
to 1961 or (ii) that some things were better prior to that date or (iii) 
if the Portuguese had continued ruling, we wouldn't have had some/all 
problems we're facing today?

Please let us know how anyone could justify the first or third 
insinuations, if this is what you mean. Your arguments however 
tend to go around in circles, and duck the point. 

Nostalgia and thinking of them-good-days is an attitude which makes one 
feel reassured with having to cope with the past we've lived with. But 
it's not sufficient to a region forward.

Or else, we could just be more honest about our feelings and say, like the 
writer M G Vassanji (ex-Nairobi, ex-Dar) said recently in Tehelka: The 
whites left too early. 

He incidentally also talks about corruption (It is easy to corrupt 
people in countries like Kenya, a million dollars there means a lot. 
Besides, these countries were treated like pawns in a larger  
international game.) The article also talks about his homecoming for  
himself across three continents, none of which have ever quite belonged to  
him  Is it possibly a sense of alienation that's speaking up?

FN

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