Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 development cycle?
At 07:18 PM 06/24/2004, Darcy James Argue wrote: Obviously its frustrating that Coda isn't planning on fixing Fin2004, but at this point we're talking good money/time/resources after bad. You're talking about Coda, I assume -- I think many of us feel that paying for Fin2005 is throwing good money after bad on our parts as well. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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[Goanet]Fwd: We are very interested in hearing more about WGD
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:05:41 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] we are a family of 4 our two children and my husband live in Flushing NY while I live in Kampala Uganda. From reading your email we understand that the goan community in NY are preparing to have a WGD. We would be interested in finding out more about the event and meanwhile we would like to get in touch with other members of the community who live here, especially if there are any who have migrated from East Africa. Will look forward to hearing more from you, Marcie M - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]JOIN GOANS WORLD WIDE and celebrate WORLD GOA DAY
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from renebarreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:09:35 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) 00 A write up that appeared on Navhind Times in Goa August 2003. WORLD GOA DAY 2003 Suffused in a mix of love and nostalgia, Goans across the globe are gearing up to celebrate World Goa Day on August 21. The date marks the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th Schedule of the Indian Constitution by both houses of Parliament in 1992. While talk of the event in Goa seems muted, a virtual fever is building up in cyberspace among the Goan communities now thriving in the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, Portugal, Spain, Kenya, Tanzania and some countries of the Middle East. Writing in the official website of World Goa Day, Mr Rene Barreto, convenor of the event, says, on Goa day this year, thousands of Goans will once again remind themselves of the need to work to preserve our culture, music, history, language, cuisine, and art for our children, the non-Goan community and for posterity. The theme of Giving back to Goa is a good way to inspire our Goan community to do more for Goa and Goans worldwide, writes the London-based Mr Barreto. Let Goa day be a beacon of light and inspiration throughout the year and for the rest of our lives. Let us make this our motto: Proud to be a Goan, and live up to that motto. Messages of support and solidarity have been crowding Mr Barreto's email inbox. An email by Mr Keith Vaz, British Member of Parliament states: As someone of Goan descent I send my very best wishes for a most successful World Goa Day. This is obviously a crucial step forward in recognising the unique contribution of the Goan community to the life not just of India but also other countries where they have chosen to make their homes. Goa is known the world over for its civility, hospitality and diversity. It is one of the most glorious places on earth. I send my very best wishes for a successful day. Hoping to enthuse more among the Goan diaspora, Mr Barreto has posted some of these messages onto the popular mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr Oscar Furtado, of G.O.A, Toronto, sees this as an opportunity to celebrate the values the Goan community possesses and also to share these values with the various communities around the world. Writes Mr Cristopher Nunes, President, Goan Association of New Jersey, Inc. As this year's theme for World Goa day is 'Giving something back' to society, I am proud to say that the association and individual members continue to donate funds to projects in Goa and help other less fortunate Goans. Mr Oscar C Lobo, from Melbourne Australia urges Goans everywhere to shun the caste system and Mr John Paul Kihara of the Goan Community of Mombasa, Kenya, warmly invites all Goans and non-Goans to their special Goan festival in September. There is even a congratulatory message from a Briton, Mr Paul Hancock. There are some dissonant notes too. Writing in Roman script Konkani, one Mr Simon Mendonca laments that though Goans proudly proclaim their Goan-ness, they are ashamed to talk in Konkani. The bouquets and brickbats apart, Mr Rene Barreto affirms that on August 20, Goans world-wide join in solidarity to celebrate our Goan-ness. In Goa, World Goa Day is planned for August 24. Among other things, the celebrations will include a stage production by Professor Isabel Santa Rita Vas. Elsewhere in the world, Goan organisations have planned activities for the entire months of August, September or October 2003. Details are listed on www.goaday.com. There are games, picnics, dinners and dances, cultural shows and cooking demos, even Masses and healing services planned by Goan communities in places like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary (Canada), New Jersey, California, Houston (USA), London (UK) and Nairobi and Mombasa in Kenya. The list of celebrations is big, the activities diverse and the places, far-flung. The common denominator is Goa. Music naturally becomes part of the celebrations. Mr Basilio Magno, a Goan from Spain, had composed a special song, Proud to be a Goan, for the first World Goa Day in 2000. This year, the song has been re-arranged by Mr Emiliano da Cruz and sung by Lulu, one of Goa's top singers Other pages that you might like to visit: http://www.goaday.com/supporters php 00 - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]GHAG debate - Margaret Mascarenhas replies to Fred
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:16:58 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Margaret Mascarenhas mmasc at sancharnet.in - Fred, I don't think the issue here, at least for me, is about whether (some) NGOs/activists do good work (many do),and it is certainly not about ethnic origins--I don't know where that one came from. It is also not, for me, about dishonesty concerning money matters since to date no one has presented any evidence whatsoever to establish that this is the case. It isn't even about GHAG not doing good work. It has done good work, which is why I have supported it in the past. My objection to GHAG is their repeated use and abuse of OTHERS from whom they solicit support on one pretext and then unilaterally change the agenda when the other(s) are already committed/compromised. It is a question of public misrepresentation.Let GHAG do good work on its own and not enlist public support for causes that turn out to be other than what was originally outlined. That Heta has been dishonest in her representation in soliciting assistance,that she indiscriminately uses people to her own ends, I have personal experience with that, as have numerous others. Had it just been about me, I would and did refrain from comment for over two years, and continued to endorse her work, including the first Fontainhas Festival. Re the second Fointainhas festival, surely you must know that it was not only Alexyx who had a major problem with the way it was handled and with Heta's treatment of individuals once they were roped into the event; I spoke with at least 12 artists who were extremely upset by GHAG's insensitive, arbitrary and autocratic behavior during this Festival. Let's face it: GHAG cannot have a Heritage Festival without artists and musicians--no one would come. When you present a proposal to artists, or whomever, as though you are offering them a parnership in an event, you need to behave democratically and as though that partnership exists. And when GHAG puts itself out there in the public arena, and solicits public endorsement, they had also better be ready for public criticism. Margaret - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Goan Rain Festival San Joao celebrations today, Viva!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goan Rain Festival San Joao The residents of Goa celebrate San Joao, an annual rain festival or the Feast of John the Baptist, with great fanfare every year in June.The festival is part of the tradition the Portuguese, who ruled Goa until 1961, have left behind. Nowhere is this event better celebrated than the picturesque village of Siolim, which seems to come alive on the day from its year-long slumber. It is believed that San Joao revellers from several villages first converged in front of St. Anthony's church in Siolim over 150 years ago. The San Joao is usually held on a day which witnesses heavy showers. But rain gods didn't oblige this year and so the festival was observed under bright sunshine and clear skies.That, however, did not dampen the spirits of the revellers. Locals thronged the streets, bedecked in bright, costume clothes and floral headgear. They sang traditional songs and danced to the merry tunes. Vincent Pinto, a local resident, said, This San Joao festival used to be held over the last 150 years but the boat festival is done in a very nice way. Nearby villages come with their beautifully decorated boats alongwith their headgears and beautiful costumes. They come to the distributory and we have the function here close to the church. Some youngsters also turned up dressed as triumphant Brazilian soccer players, complete with jerseys and colourful headgears. However, Pascal D'Costa, another resident, lamented the old charm is mising in today's festivities. The festival has kind of lost its charm in a way because the youth are actually ignoring certain traditions and forgetting the relevance, he said. Many believe that the festival reflects the spirit of the state - that of fun and revelry, a festival that has tourist potential. Goa has come of age as far as tourism is concerned. Its balmy beaches and tropical climate attracts thousands of foreign visitors each year. It has now been voted as one of the top 50 tourist destinations the world over. http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/festivals/rain.html - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Seeking interaction with high-school teachers in Goa / India
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:14:02 +0100 (Horário de verão de Greenwich) From: Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maria Libania Ventura Nazareth, is daughter of a Goan father and Portuguese mother. She was born and lived in Kenya and in Mozambique before settling down in Portugal. She is presently a high-school teacher and has completed her M.Phil. research on the Use of body-language in the training of high-school teachers in Portugal. She wishes to continue her research for Ph.D. along the same lines, but extending it to India. She looks for contacts in Goa and elsewhere in India to interact on the subject of her research, which she has planned along the following lines: (1) The significance of body in the history of education in India and in Goa. (2) The method of training teachers in India. (3) Survey of courses in body expression and dramatic performance. (4) The prevailing status of the high-school formation in Índia with special reference to the utilization of body language. Any goanetters or GRNetter interested in interacting with Maria Libania Ventura Nazareth may email to her directly [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post to Goanet / Goa-Research-Net - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Please pass comments to: LINO LEITAO - June 23
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:08:56 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/23 Hi, Glad to note that you are a writer. As for Goans going to book-signing events, I have to inform you that I did stand in line for 4 hours for an autographed copy by the author: Living History [Hillary Rodham, Clinton]. What did you think of Cracking India by Bapsi Sidhwa [living in Canada] and Salman Rushdie's books [a Bombayite]? Waiting to get my hands on 'Goa: A Daughter's Story' by Maria Couto--it will be a while since Amazon probably will not stock it. Goans in the diaspora are drawn to best sellers, and books on current topics.. Good luck. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Shellfish Names.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from milind sulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: milind sulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zob is also one of the name. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Konkani Drama - Menino de Bandar's 'Ghara iea in Kuwait
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from borg costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 05:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: borg costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] The above drama held in Dubai on the 17th of June. Full marks to Menino de Bandar his troup for providing us good entertainment. To all goans enjoy the drama and dont bye the VCD of PeteRoshan film entitled Mog sold. It is one of the worst. mog-assundi!! Manuel - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]PICKLE JAR
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Aloysius D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:53:23 +0530 From: Aloysius D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Goans Everywhere, This is a lovely story for FATHERS' DAY -- a couple of days late, but I think all of us with appreciate it and maybe take a good lesson from it. Cheers Aloysius D'Souza - Original Message - From: Keith Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: FW: PICKLE JAR THE PICKLE JAR The pickle jar as far back as I can remember sat on the floor beside the dresser in my parents' bedroom. When he got ready for bed, Dad would empty his pockets and toss his coins into the jar. As a small boy I was always fascinated at the sounds the coins made as they were dropped into the jar. They landed with a merry jingle when the jar was almost empty. Then the tones gradually muted to a dull thud as the jar was filled. I used to squat on the floor in front of the jar and admire the copper and silver circles that glinted like a pirate's treasure when the sun poured through the bedroom window. When the jar was filled, Dad would sit at the kitchen table and roll the coins before taking them to the bank. Taking the coins to the bank was always a big production. Stacked neatly in a small cardboard box, the coins were placed between Dad and me on the seat of his old truck. Each and every time, as we drove to the bank, Dad would look at me hopefully. Those coins are going to keep you out of the textile mill, son. You're going to do better than me. This old mill town's not going to hold you back. Also, each and every time, as he slid the box of rolled coins across the counter at the bank toward the cashier, he would grin proudly. These are for my son's college fund. He'll never work at the mill all his life like me. We would always celebrate each deposit by stopping for an ice cream cone. I always got chocolate. Dad always got vanilla. When the clerk at the ice cream parlor handed Dad his change, he would show me the few coins nestled in his palm. When we get home, we'll start filling the jar again. He always let me drop the first coins into the empty jar. As they rattled around with a brief, happy jingle, we grinned at each other. You'll get to college on pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters, he said. But you'll get there. I'll see to that. The years passed, and I finished college and took a job in another town. Once, while visiting my parents, I used the phone in their bedroom, and noticed that the pickle jar was gone. It had served its purpose and had been removed. A lump rose in my throat as I stared at the spot beside the dresser where the jar had always stood. My dad was a man of few words, and never lectured me on the values of determination, perseverance, and faith. The pickle jar had taught me all these virtues far more eloquently than the most flowery of words could have done. When I married, I told my wife Susan about the significant part the lowly pickle jar had played in my life as a boy. In my mind, it defined, more than anything else, how much my dad had loved me. No matter how rough things got at home, Dad continued to doggedly drop his coins into the jar. Even the summer when Dad got laid off from the mill, and Mama had to serve dried beans several times a week, not a single dime was taken from the jar. To the contrary, as Dad looked across the table at me, pouring catsup over my beans to make them more palatable, he became more determined than ever to make a way out for me. When you finish college, Son, he told me, his eyes glistening, You'll never have to eat beans again...unless you want to. The first Christmas after our daughter Jessica was born, we spent the holiday with my parents. After dinner, Mom and Dad sat next to each other on the sofa, taking turns cuddling their first grandchild. Jessica began to whimper softly, and Susan took her from Dad's arms. She probably needs to be changed, she said, carrying the baby into my parents' bedroom to diaper her. When Susan came back into the living room, there was a strange mist in her eyes. She handed Jessica back to Dad before taking my hand and leading me into the room. Look, she said softly, her eyes directing me to a spot on the floor beside the dresser. To my amazement, there, as if it had never been removed, stood the old pickle jar, the bottom already covered with coins. I walked over to the pickle jar, dug down into my pocket, and pulled out a fistful of coins. With a gamut of emotions choking me, I dropped the coins into the jar. I looked up and saw that Dad, carrying Jessica, had slipped
[Goanet]RE: Goan Joke
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Joaquim Cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaquim Cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Dear Mr. Pinto An incident similar to your joke occurred in real here in Kuwait. Incidently, this guy also was one Mr. Pinto who had not visited his native Karnataka for a long long time. A Goan male maid died and the coffin needed to be accompanied by some one. He was Pintos old friend and therefore offered his help in reaching the body to Goa. In packing his small briefcase (may be 10 Kg.) he bought a bigger one to fit in the other stuff. And then another one. So total 3 pieces of baggage. An used TV and a video which he claimed was gifted by his departed friend. His total baggage weight easily crossed 100 kilograms and he left. On reaching Goa Pinto managed to find the airport manager to whom he gave the documents and rushed to the Vasco Rly station immediately. Pinto reached home but the dead body remained for a long time until Pinto had to return the next day to prove he had accompanied the body. This Pinto was little greedy and its a true story. No jokes on dead bodies please. Relish it. Jack. Stanley Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gadzooks! Is there no limit to Goan ingenuity? Not to mention not-so-petty larceny? - End forwarded message -
RE: [Goanet] England the best team???
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Typical British arrogance!!! The whole world was able to see which team played better football! Surely it wasn't England...they can go home now, so that our police takes a break! Rui Collaço Lisboa Well today is the day of reckoning, since no one has taken my offer I close the betting. May the best team win, surely the best team is England. cheers, Gabe. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: [Goanet]Colonial Powers Duel on Pitch
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The day of reckoning on the football pitch for India's former colonial masters snip fine champagne, and no dumb blondes for me !! Viva Portugal Frank, FORMER colonial powers. Or used to be's. And, IMHO, anyone using the above heading for an email is in dire need of a mustard enema. Mervyn2.0 BTW, the head of Portugual came over to Canada and beged former Portuguese citizens to invest in Portugual. The head of England comes over to Canada every year or so to collect the donations for her family. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
[Goanet]Colonial Powers Duel on Pitch
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe the England captain too feels the goal is beyond his reach. I will be cheering Portugal all the way! Toasting the goal/goals as the roar echoes through the Stadio da Luz with fine champagne, and no dumb blondes for me !! Viva Portugal Cheers, Frank RESPONSE: The better team won the game. The other team was robbed of a win! Still that is the way, this tournament is bound to progress and do not be astounded if the best team, supposedly (France) do not get through. On another issue, I had offered here 50 EUROS on and ENGLAND win, no takers! Just goes to show our Goenkar mentality, I'm sure most were rooting for Portugal but none wanted to put their money where their mouth was. All I can say and I am not trying to encourage gambling, nothing ventured - nothing gained. Viva Portugal, adeus England.
[Goanet]Parabéns Portugal (Euro 2004)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Parabéns Portugal (Euro 2004) Portugal's goalkeeper Ricardo scores from the spot to send Portugal through to the semi-finals, after saving a penalty shot. Portugal will meet either Sweden or the Netherlands. In an exciting match that took the score 8:7, Portugal beat England after the penalty shoot-out decider. England were just minutes away from the semi-finals when Hélder Postiga pounced for Portugal at the regular time. How England's fans will take this defeat is anybody's guess. Blame it on Beckham? Parabéns Portugal Boa sorte! Congratulations and good luck. It could be said that the blessings of Sao Joao was on Portugal today. Boa noite. Good night. Viva Portugal. Pode repetir isso? Can this be repeated again in the semis. Gaspar Almeida, 12:40 a.m Kuwait Time ex-Vice President, Kuwait Indian Football Federation (KIFF) - Kuwait Associate, www.goa-world.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: [Goanet]Colonial Powers Duel on Pitch
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## As I predicted, the best team won. I never doubted it. Not even for a minute. Good you saved your money Gabe! Even according to the British commentators (BBC), the best team was throughout the game was Portugal. The English players were completely exhausted in the extra time. It was a shame it had to be resolved over penalties but even then, it was a fair result. Viva Portugal, now in the Semi Finals of Euro 2004. The English can now sing again their famous song: Football is coming home Best regards Paulo http://www.euro2004.com
[Goanet]Books by Goan Authors
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Gilbert Lawrence: There is no good reason that Goans of the 21st century and especially Goans in the west should read posts like this (below) or that of Jose and others on other recent posts. I hope these personal accounts, by outstanding Goans who have put themselves out, will be appreciated by the presidents of the various Goan associations, GOAs, WGD, etc. and Goan village associations. If I had my way, I would have a mini-exposition of Goan books at every Goan social function. This would include books written by Goan authors but not meant for public consumption (purchase). These included books on architecture, law, engineering, computers, medicine etc etc. Let our Goan youth know that Goans can and have achieved success just like all the other great contributors to society. First we need to start at home. Every Goan in the west should commit to spending at least $25.00 every year to enlarge their personal 'Goan library' collection of books authored by Goans. And spend an additional $25:00 to spend on books to give to others as gifts. There are plenty of good Goan books for this purpose. Let's stop finding excuses. Of course the market-place has to make these books easily available. Also every Goan author should promote their own books and those of other Goans. Thanks, Regards, Gilbert Daryl Martyris: I agree with Mr. Leitao that Goa's don't read very much and don't appreciate the writing of other Goans. I however gain tremendously from reading this books which inform me about the lives and times that shaped my family. Obtaining books here is difficult as the distributors are often waiting (indefinitely) for re-prints. Grant Buday's Golden Goa falls in this category. If there's anyone living in the US who happens to have a copy of this book they can lend (or sell) please get in touch with me. Best wishes, They don't buy sufficient books. There's no large Goan reading public. I don't quite know why; inspite of the higher literacy rates, they don't read their own writers. Other Indians very much do so. For book-signing events, I've hardly come across any Goan coming up for the same. In the State University of Chicago event, there were Whites and Blacks, but not a single Goan who came for this event. One researcher from the University of Sao Paulo in Brazil has been working on my novel for her thesis.
[Goanet]ILUG-Goa meeting June 26 (Saturday) 3-5 pm Science Centre Miramar
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Date: Saturday, June 26, 2004 Time: 3 pm to 5 pm Venue: Goa Science Centre, Miramar Programme: * Dr Anil Seth, Head, Dept of IT, PCC Verna on FREE SOFTWARE CHOICE: A Bird's Eye View of Computing Applications Available to You. This talk is specially meant for those who would like to get acquainted with, or learn more about the Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) world. It would be particularly relevant to newbies, and those fresh to this field. Dr Seth, who has the knack of explaining complex ideas in simple terms, will start with a quick reason for GNU/Linux distributions, desktops, and operating systems. Then he will look at development options available to those interested in learning programming -- particularly Python, with which he has himself worked for long. The speaker will also explain common GNU/Linux applications -- such as browsers, wordprocessors (e.g Lyx), email applications in other areas such as education (GCompris), and graphics (gimp, Blender for 3D modelling,etc). The intention of this talk is not to give a catalog of products but to convey the need and desirability for the variety of choices in computing. Also, to encourage persons to search for suitable applications which meets their goals and not be afraid to change to. * WORLD SOFTWARE FREEDOM DAY, an introduction http://www.softwarefreedomday.org * SCREENING OF FILM introducing Python programming. * TECH TOPICS subject to interest and availability. Please be on time, as we need to wind up puncutally. Thanks to the Goa Science Centre, Panjim and Mr V N Joshi for the venue. This meeting is open to all interested in Free Software and Open Source. Kindly note however that entry to Science Centre costs a nominal Rs 10, payable at the main gate. An annual membership of the Goa Science Centre (free entry for other programmes) costs Rs 200 for the general public, Rs 100 for teachers, and Rs 50 for students. Get along two photographs. d8b d8b db Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa India 88' 888o 88 f r e d @ b y t e s f o r a l l . o r g 88ooo 88V8o 88 http://www.bytesforall.org 88~~~ 88 V8o88 Phone 0091.832.2409490 Mobile 09822 122436 88 88 V888 784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Sonarbhat Saligao Goa 403511 YP VP V8P Writing ... with a difference, on issues that matter
[Goanet]Colonial Powers Duel on Pitch
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## The day of reckoning on the football pitch for India's former colonial masters is surely minutes away. My support is solidly behind the Portuguese, not for its past links with Goa, but for the team spirit. No prima donnas here i.e. golden balls, but wizardry, guile and collective skill. This will not be a Croatian team lacking a defence, or a Swiss team with a defence that could be likened to their cheese. This is a team that will shackle Wayne Rooney or any individualistic approach from the England team. England can only win if they play as a team. Driving by Beckham house, a mile down the road from my place, I have noticed that while most of the rest of the country proudly flies the flag, Beckingham Palace only has a medium size flag displayed in the corner rather than prominently. Maybe the England captain too feels the goal is beyond his reach. I will be cheering Portugal all the way! Toasting the goal/goals as the roar echoes through the Stadio da Luz with fine champagne, and no dumb blondes for me !! Viva Portugal Cheers, Frank on 24/6/04 09:16, Gabe Menezes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well today is the day of reckoning, since no one has taken my offer I close the betting. May the best team win, surely the best team is England. cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]Goa Celebrates Sao Joao Feast
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Goa Celebrates São João!!! TRADITION inflamed anew this evening in Goa's suburbs, particularly at the picturesque riverside Siolim village in North Goa, with youngsters honouring the age-old ritual of jumping in the well to celebrate the feast of St John the Baptist, shouting Viva Sao Joao, Viva! Another tradition specific to Siolim - the Sao Joao Boat Parade - also proved a throbbing event in front of the church of St Anthony, where beautifully decorated boats from Vaddy and Marna converged near the shamiana put up by the water's edge, along with those sailing up the river from Badem in Assagao, Zhor Vaddo in Anjuna, Chapora and elsewhere... (http://www.goacom.com/goanow/2004/jun/SaoJoao.htm)
[Goanet]Saudi says foreigners can carry guns
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Reuters News ArticleAre our Goenkars willing to carry, pistolas? Saudi says foreigners can carry guns Thu 24 June, 2004 02:43 PM RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia will allow foreigners who feel threatened by the wave of militant violence in the kingdom to carry guns for their protection, Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz says. In principle a Saudi has the right to carry a weapon, if he has a permit. Likewise a foreign resident, if he felt in danger he could get a permit to carry a weapon, Nayef was quoted as saying by the official Saudi Press Agency on Thursday. I mean a personal weapon which a person can have in his own country, the prince said. Al Qaeda supporters have waged a year-long campaign of violence targeting Westerners, government sites and oil workers in the kingdom, prompting some foreigners to flee the country which is the world's biggest oil exporter. In one of the bloodiest attacks, militants masquerading as security men killed 22 civilians in a May shooting and hostage-taking spree in the oil city of Khobar. On Friday, security forces shot dead al Qaeda's leader in Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al-Muqrin, hours after the beheading of U.S. hostage Paul Johnson. But militants promised to continue their jihad (holy struggle) to drive foreigners from the birthplace of Islam and topple its royal rulers. Saudi Arabia announced a limited one-month amnesty on Wednesday for the militants. Saudi sources said it was aimed at mid-ranking and junior al Qaeda supporters, not leaders with blood on their hands. world.
[Goanet]Re: self publishing in Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## A time comes an idea possesses you so strongly that you become merely a vehicle for the idea to execute itself. A couple of years ago, frustrated with my lack of knowledge of Goa and the scarcity of info in a compact book, I set out to research and compile basic and detailed information on our land. I trawled the Looked at another way, you satisfied a market need. It is amazing how much market need there might be for news about Goa. (Sometimes I wonder if there is any other place in this world as mis-represented as Goa. I hardly meet anyone in Bangalore who knows much about Goa, for instance. They almost think that it is some place abroad and they are completely ignorant or have totally vague views.) That apart, a Lonely planet guide of Goa, with a well-stapled plastic cover on it so that one cannot browse it without buying, sells for Rs. 1000/- or so anywhere. For foreign tourists to Goa, that probably is the only or one of the few ways of getting authentic information. (It is to the credit of the Lonely planet people that it seems they cover some really out-of-the-way places and restaurants in Goa that even Goans haven't heard of.) The point is: for a tourist when he/she goes to a new place, there isn't much info available and he/she would be willing to pay a lot for such info. Of course, developing a brand name such as Lonely planet takes time, but one has to start somewhere. Look forward to more of amazing things from Jose Lourenco. regards, Samir Kelekar
[Goanet]VIVA SAM JUAUM!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Aumddetam sogott Goenkarank khuxealborit Sam Juaum Bautistachea festachi porob. Baint ani nodin nhavon hea festan bhag gheteleank Dhoniam Devan rakche. Viva Sam Juaum! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
[Goanet]Football, bets off!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Well today is the day of reckoning, since no one has taken my offer I close the betting. May the best team win, surely the best team is England. cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]Who cares for Goa? - Letter to CM
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Chief Minister: Thank you for your response to my query. In today's news we read the following: DO WE CARE ABOUT GOA? Betalbatim is just another example of the indifference shown by the authorities towards Goa's main treasure - the while pristine beaches. No one cares and no one is bothering to step in and halt the destruction. A similar case was felt in Candolim, with the grounding of the MV River Princess. Arambol beach, which was once largely unspoilt, is utterly disgusting with one large slum on the northern wide. Anjuna beach is slowly disappearing due to the reclamation by the raging seas.All these beaches are classic example of the ineptitude the government is showing towards protecting its won natural treasures. (Edit in Herald) BEACH EROSION: WHO CARES? When the beach gets eroded, endangering thousands of standing casuarinas trees, one would presume that the departments of Tourism, Forest and Agriculture would come into play. But ask officials of these departments on the danger posed to the Sunset beach at Betalbatim, and they seem to have no answer other than passing the buck on each other. (Herald) Sir: Tourists come to Goa primarily for our beaches. Pure and simple. Not for our IFFI or for anything else. Why do we continue to destroy our tourist industry? Only the people of Goa will suffer ultimately. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. This note is also being circulated to others - mainly our Goan diaspora. From: Chief Minister of Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reply Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:10:25 +0530 Dear Shri De Mello, I acknowledge with thanks your email dated 16th April, 2004 on Anjuna Cliff Crumbling into the Sea. The matter was also brought to my notice for appropriate steps to prevent further damage by Shri Dayanand Mandrekar, Minister (Agriculture). I have already directed Collector to initiate action and will ensure that further erosion is prevented. With regards, Yours sincerely, Mayuresh Khaunte Spl. Assistant to Chief Minister - Original Message - From: Tim de Mello To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: ANJUNA CLIFF CRUMBLING INTO THE SEA The following was posted on Goa-Net April 16, 2004 12:27:04 AM ANJUNA CLIFF CRUMBLING INTO THE SEA: Once the cradle of tourism n Goa, Anjuna is now literally falling part. The magnificent cliff with a commanding view of the sea is slowly but surely, falling victim to the powerful waves that lash its face during the monsoons. Menino Fernandes, who owns the Victor Guest House at St Anthony Praias Vaddo, has been watching the cliff being eroded over the past decade. Standing in front of the guesthouse, which overlooks the cliff, Fernandes points to a rock jutting out of the sea, 50 metres away from the cliff base, saying, That is where the cliff was years ago. Look where it is now. I live in fear, my family lives in fear and my guests live in fear, he adds as three young tourists point to the crack while walking by. If the government can spend so many crores on the film festival can they not spare Rs.3.5 crore to ensure that we can live safely? (Reuven Proenca in GT) == The erosion along Anjuna beach has been documented at length both in the press and by written appeals to the the Anjuna Panchayat, the Anjuna Police and to the Chief Minister. The main and primary cause for this erosion is the illegal beach sand extraction that continues to take place - now using trucks. An Anjuna panchyat member confided in me that they are powerless to do anything as the sand extractors line the Minister's pockets. It appears that no one in a position of power is interested in protecting the beach and that Anjuna beach is now considered a dispensible beach. If the villagers of Anjuna are interested in preserving their beach and coast line they must mobilize themselves and stop the these people from taking sand from the beach. No one else will do it for them. As long as they take a susegaad approach to this destruction, in a few years the beach will be de-nuded of its sand cover. Tourists will stop coming to this area. And who will be be the people who will suffer most? The Anjuncars, of course. Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE*
[Goanet]Looking for my mum's godchild
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi there everybody I need some assistance from you all. My mum called Mary Fernandes has a godchild in Carmona Goa India called Jovita - she hasnt seen her in years now but knows that (Jovita's)husband passed away and was a teacher - her late mother's name was Tibus and late father Savier Fernandes. Her brother's name is Lavino and also had a sister called Jennifer who we understand died a few months or year ago. Jovita has her aunt called Eliz in Zanzibar (her mum's sister) Tanzania and her cousins called Claude, Arvyn and Bonny. I will very grateful if anyone can help me trace her as we intend to come down to Goa at the end of the year and would very much like to meet with her. Thanking you all in advance for your co-operation. Regards Avril Fernandes --- Avril Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] P O Box 19652 Cell: 0741670186 Dar es salaam Tanzania Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10
[Goanet]Re: Goanet]Sao Joao / St. Jean - Quebec
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## A really nice description of La Fte de la St-Jean Baptiste as celebrated in Quebec can be found at: http://www.genealogyforum.rootsweb.com/gfaol/resource/Canada/StJean.htm Apparently at the beginning of the 19th century, in towns and villages along the St-Lawrence River, it was customary to take the first swim of the year on St-Jean-Baptiste Day. Even today most swimming pools in Quebec open for the season around that day. Traffic was easier this morning as the Quebec side of Ottawa slept in :-) Strange to have one part of town on holiday and the other working! Boogie
[Goanet]Mumbai, Panaji, Margao, Vasco do Gama, Kolkata and Delhi as the newest sex haven
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## http://sify.com/news_info/news/offbeat/fullstory.php?id=13279433 India hot on the world sex map By Alka Rastogi in Lucknow Wednesday, 08 October , 2003, 18:31 Sex travellers of the world unite. Shocking but true - Delhi's Connaught Place and Kolkata's Park Street are now the preferred hotspots alongside Hamburg and Amsterdam in the World Sex Guide. The guide, that provides explicit information about adult services across the globe, lists Mumbai, Panaji, Margao, Vasco do Gama, Kolkata and Delhi as the newest sex havens despite the fact that making appointments over the Net is still difficult in these places. With the age of consent ill-defined and girls offering their services at throwaway prices, it's a bargain that foreign thrill-seekers find hard to resist. While noting that prostitution is widely tolerated and practiced in India, the guide is also careful to point out the pitfalls - unlike Iceland, Thailand and Holland where prostitution is legal if no third party profits from it, in India it is illegal. But lax laws, it suggests, mean that sex tourists are in no real danger of being prosecuted. Even though India may still lag countries where girls can be booked by name, figure or sexual preference, the services already on offer are mind-boggling enough. Goa, the guide claims, is dotted with bars that provide anything and everything by way of carnal cravings. Besides desi damsels, even white women in dire need of replenishing their purse are not hard to find on the Aguada, Anjuna and Calangute beaches. Connaught Place in the heart of the capital Delhi is a hotbed for solicitation, says the guide. While the cabaret joint near Minto Road may now have shut shop, auto-rickshaw drivers in the vicinity reportedly offer private shows for as little as Rs 1500. Wild nights of passion can be had for a price in Laxmi Nagar and several other Trans-Yamuna localities. A favoured sex spot near a major Central Delhi hotel also finds special mention. Mumbai is listed as the 'cheapest place on earth for foreign travelers for a night life rivaling that of Bangkok and Amsterdam.' The guide waxes eloquent about the goods on offer. The girls here can speak English, it says. Sex workers operating out of five-star Mumbai discotheque are mentioned by name. A hard bargainer could get a girl of his choice for a few hundred rupees in Kolkata, the guide insists. Tourists are, however, advised to keep off Nepali women while taking their pick from professional 'escorts' who are to be found in upmarket localities like Chowringhee Square and Park Street. Although Sonagachi, the City's red light district, is not recommended for its poor selection of girls, sex workers here reportedly pay off the police to keep their customers happy. To convince the fence sitters, the guide also posts experiences and comments from surfers who have been there and done it all. There is information to be had on a number of places, compiled with the help of both locals and visitors. But the guide would be failing in its duty if it didn't strike a note of caution. New Delhi is not New York and travellers are warned to leave their wallets behind while patronising ladies of the night. With call girls often working in collusion with the cops, an unsuspecting customer could end up losing his freedom, dignity and, of course, money.
[Goanet]guess we all should learn from this....
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## In ancient Greece, Socrates was reputed to hold knowledge in high esteem. One day an acquaintance met the great philosopher and said, Do you know what I just heard about your friend? Hold on a minute, Socrates replied. Before telling me anything I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test. Triple Filter Test? That's right, Socrates continued. Before you talk to me about my friend, it might be a good idea to take a moment and filter what You're going to say. That's why I call it the triple filter test. The first filter is Truth.Have you made absolutely sure that what you Are about to tell me is true? No, the man said, actually I just heard about it And... All right, said Socrates. So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me about my friend something good? No, on the contrary... So, Socrates continued, you want to tell me Something bad about him, but you're not certain it's true. You may still pass the test through, because there's one filter left: the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my friend going to be useful to me? No, not really. Well, concluded Socrates, if what you want to tell me is neither true nor good nor even useful, why tell it to me at all? This is why Socrates was a great philosopher held in such high esteem. Contributed by Lawrie Baga/Kuwait
[Goanet]Re-mix masala inGoa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## The local government seems to have developed a penchant to mix a host of unrealted issues in one go ...and keep the citizens chasing red herrings- from redlight areas to blue-blooded heritage precints to inductions and expulsions...each one to his own compulsions; This clipping from the Gomantak Times is illustrative of the re-mix masala: Defacement Against Democratic Norms PANAJI: NCP MLA Dr Wilfred de Souza said the defacement and damage of public property to rename two roads on Friday was against democratic norms and demanded that the guilty be brought to book. Speaking to reporters, Dr De Souza said the unimpeded vandalism by the group of persons indicated that the government machinery was ineffective in tackling the offenders. The liberation struggle was fought with the objective of introducing democratic norms but by taking the law into their own hands in this forced renaming of the roads, these forces have cast a blot on the state. He said these persons had every right to protest and they could do it within the democratic framework but what happened on Friday would make the freedom fighters who laid down their lives turn in their graves. Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar who holds the home portfolio and is also the local MLA should initiate action against the guilty as their names and photos have been published in the press. The NCP Goa chief asked newly sworn in Minister Matanhy Saldanha whether he approved of this vandalism or the demolition in Baina? Referring to his statement that he (Saldanha) had joined the government on the merit of its performance, he asked whether these two cases reflected good governance. The Baina demolition could have been done in a proper way instead of throwing some people on the street during the monsoon, he said. Viva Goa. Miguel
[Goanet]Yours Airport - Do you know how many flights landing per hour?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Here is some thing for you... (peak hours say 5am to 11pm) If during peak hrs, 4 or 5 flights landing per hour at Airports like DEL (IGL), BOM (CSI) or DXB/Dubai etc, how many flights, you think, are landing at world busiest Airports like London (LHR), US (JFK) ?? Hint: Its not less than 25. (..You will not believe!!) Think.., bearing in mind, the overall air ground safety, work load of Air Traffic Controllers etc etc You have up to 48 hrs... please try. (can mail pvt.ly) Good Luck. Thanks/joe = http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Taking potshots at Heta Pandit... and GHAG and Timmaji
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I am reproducing below the unedited article of Rupesh Samant that was published in the June issue [ Vol.1 No.5]of the NORTH GOA PLUS tabloid[monthly,10,000 copies,16 pages,FREE]. Rupesh has extensively quoted history lecturer and Vice-President of GHAG on the reasons why The Fontainhas Heritage Festival was to be discontinued. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fontainhas Festival! The Fontainhas Festival SCRAPPED! By Rupesh Samant Controversy of different sorts has taken toll of Goa's unique event of international repute - the Fontainhas festival. After successfully holding the festival for last two years, the organizers -- Goa Heritage Action Group (GHAG) -- have decided to scrap it forever. The GHAG's decision was the fallout of protests by Goan freedom fighters, who termed the festival as an attempt to promote Portuguese culture in the state. This coastal state was an erstwhile Portuguese colony. Fontainhas, tucked into a corner of Panaji city, with a row of houses depicting Indo-Portuguese architecture - was the focus of this art festival, organized by GHAG, a local NGO, in collaboration with the state Tourism Department and Corporation of City of Panaji. While Corporation of City of Panaji beautified roads and painted the façade of all the houses, the GHAG invited artists from across the country to exhibit their paintings. The concept was simple. The residents of Fontainhas let their houses be used by artists to display their creations. The house owner used to get share of the profits made by the artists during the festival, explained GHAG vice president Prajal Sakhardande. It was not only about art, though. We wanted that people saw the unique Indo-Portuguese architectural styled houses, says Sakhardande. Fontainhas was not just a hot favourite amongst artists. Television commercial producers too have extracted the best mileage out of the Indo-Portuguese architecture styled corner. Fontainhas features in several TV commercials, including those of Hutch, Maruti Zen, Mirinda and others. All went on well till last year, when freedom fighters from this state objected to the festival. Their main opposition was to the name of the festival itself. They accused us of supporting Portuguese culture,'' says Sakhardande. The Portuguese named this corner of capital city of Panaji as Fountainhas due to presence of a spring there. The spring, which existed right from the existence of Panaji, was properly developed during Portuguese rule. According to Sakhardande, a historian himself, during 1851-1855 then Portuguese Governor of Goa Jose Januario La Paz Viscont of Villa Nove de Ouvrem built a structure around the spring. The spring used to provide potable water to the city. The GHAG feels that the freedom fighters misunderstood their event. We wanted to preserve our heritage, says Sakhardande. The event, which began in 2002, attracted many international and domestic tourists. The state tourism department had also chipped in to provide global publicity for this event. We have decided not to hold the event any more as it may disturb freedom fighters' and others' sentiments, confirmed Sakhardande. Rupesh While Rupesh quotes the Vice-President of GHAG laying the blame on the so-called 'Freedom Fighters' [ordinary criminals of the bye-gone era also have fraudulently obtained the 'tamra patra' and call themselves freedom fighters just as the tainted MPs of today call themselves social or political activists]-- and the action of Nagesh Karmali last Friday at Fontainhas seems to justify his claim-- a letter issued by Heta Pandit in her capacity as the Honorary Secretary of GHAG states otherwise. This decision [to 'withhold' the Fontainhas Festival of Arts] has been taken after due deliberations and consideration of the inadequacy of logistical support from within the organization as well as outside the organization for this particular event next year. On plain reading,one would assume it means that htere are 1. dissentions within the GHAG regarding this festival and 2. there is not enough sponsorship [from Tourism Dept] and infrastructural support [from CCP]. The Freedom Fighters Association is not known to have deliberated on this issue nor issued any public statement. One swallow does not a summer make---neither does a Karmali! It is in the public domain that last January the GHAG drew flak for the way it conducted the festival. Goa Today, Gomantak Times and other publications have been full of misgivings on the subject. The PR and Accountability of GHAG has been bad although its
[Goanet]Lest we forget Timmaji
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Thank you for the compliment but I must admit that I have borrowed from research done by my friend Prajal Sakhardande and a few others. Bernado Colaco[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [It is said that Timmaji Appa was very stubborn.Miguel] The article by Mr. Miguel Braganza is well written. I wonder if the research was done at St. Brittos. I believe the library holds loads of historical books. Those who have taken books from the library please and have not returned them for ages kindly do so! :) B. Colaco Britto boys are hardly likely to have old library books with them..Mr.Almeida was a deligent Librarian. Viva Goa. Miguel
[Goanet]Re:BRIEfnCOUNTERS: Lino Leitao
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Thanks Fred, nice to read Sir Lino's life's experiences. Brought back old memories! Rgds Eddie Verdes/ ex student St. Bosco's Chinchinim From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:55 PM - - Tell us something on your work so far? -- I've published three short-story collections, starting in the 'seventies. In that time, I had migrated to Africa, after teaching at Don Bosco's in Chinchinim.
[Goanet]Sao Joao today
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Beheading of captives is making news in Iraq these days. One of the earliest recorded beheading was that of St. John the Baptist,first cousin of Jesus, by the Jewish King of Judea. John was beheaded on the instructions of King Herod as a boon to his daughter, Salome, who was instigated by her mother Heroditus to ask for his head on a platter. This afternoon you can jump in the well to commemorate the 'baptism by immersion' practiced by John the Baptist [ and presently the USP of the Southern Baptist Church of USA] and eat the ponos ,ambe, chone and drink the local 'fire-water' or cashew feni in your own village or at the in-law's place. For the joy of Sao Joao, you can see the boat parade on the creek of the chapora river near the Marna-Siolim church. Wear a 'kopel' for the ocassion. The boats come in at high tide [around 4 P.M.] Viva Sao Joao! Viva Goa. Miguel
RE: [Goanet]New Proverb project
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: PLE. Mechanical Engr. - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet]New Proverb project Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:33:32 +0300 Hi both of you, noble friends! Please allow me, also, to embellish or demolish our mamma-language; God knows I have spilled blood (my own and severally) for HER. I will resort to editing, in the principle of one-eyed-is-the-so so, all subsequent contributions to this project; ala, Shanker Bandhari is not there to render the service. I can only hope the unique Kelekar will humour us, or his dear Pappe, Gurunathji. Hi Jose Lourenco, Its amazing to hear that an old friend of mine is taking up to new type of projects (proverbs all) not related to his profession (civil engineering). Therefore can we assume that the construction business in Goa is waning out. Perhaps not but maybe just another innovative idea to market Goa the Goan spirit worldwide. Kudos to this amazing Engineer keep-up your the good work. Wish you all the luck for some more amazing ideas. Mog asundi. Ani unn vodde pavon tuka ani familik. Mog sodanch assum, ani vodd'le unn pavon tuka ani tije porjek. Alfred An Ex-ENGICO, ETG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jose lourenco Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 6:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]New Proverb project Dear Mr. Verdes and fellow netters I am working on a publication project on Konkani proverbs. I published a set of information cards called Amazing Goa recently and it was quite well received. . . . Mog asundi. Ani unn vodde pavon tumkam. Jose Lourenco [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
[Goanet]Mumbai, Panaji, Margao, Vasco do Gama, Kolkata and Delhi as the newest sex haven
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## http://sify.com/news_info/news/offbeat/fullstory.php?id=13279433 India hot on the world sex map By Alka Rastogi in Lucknow Wednesday, 08 October , 2003, 18:31 Sex travellers of the world unite. Shocking but true - Delhi's Connaught Place and Kolkata's Park Street are now the preferred hotspots alongside Hamburg and Amsterdam in the World Sex Guide. The guide, that provides explicit information about adult services across the globe, lists Mumbai, Panaji, Margao, Vasco do Gama, Kolkata and Delhi as the newest sex havens despite the fact that making appointments over the Net is still difficult in these places. With the age of consent ill-defined and girls offering their services at throwaway prices, it's a bargain that foreign thrill-seekers find hard to resist. While noting that prostitution is widely tolerated and practiced in India, the guide is also careful to point out the pitfalls - unlike Iceland, Thailand and Holland where prostitution is legal if no third party profits from it, in India it is illegal. But lax laws, it suggests, mean that sex tourists are in no real danger of being prosecuted. Even though India may still lag countries where girls can be booked by name, figure or sexual preference, the services already on offer are mind-boggling enough. Goa, the guide claims, is dotted with bars that provide anything and everything by way of carnal cravings. Besides desi damsels, even white women in dire need of replenishing their purse are not hard to find on the Aguada, Anjuna and Calangute beaches. Connaught Place in the heart of the capital Delhi is a hotbed for solicitation, says the guide. While the cabaret joint near Minto Road may now have shut shop, auto-rickshaw drivers in the vicinity reportedly offer private shows for as little as Rs 1500. Wild nights of passion can be had for a price in Laxmi Nagar and several other Trans-Yamuna localities. A favoured sex spot near a major Central Delhi hotel also finds special mention. Mumbai is listed as the 'cheapest place on earth for foreign travelers for a night life rivaling that of Bangkok and Amsterdam.' The guide waxes eloquent about the goods on offer. The girls here can speak English, it says. Sex workers operating out of five-star Mumbai discotheque are mentioned by name. A hard bargainer could get a girl of his choice for a few hundred rupees in Kolkata, the guide insists. Tourists are, however, advised to keep off Nepali women while taking their pick from professional 'escorts' who are to be found in upmarket localities like Chowringhee Square and Park Street. Although Sonagachi, the City's red light district, is not recommended for its poor selection of girls, sex workers here reportedly pay off the police to keep their customers happy. To convince the fence sitters, the guide also posts experiences and comments from surfers who have been there and done it all. There is information to be had on a number of places, compiled with the help of both locals and visitors. But the guide would be failing in its duty if it didn't strike a note of caution. New Delhi is not New York and travellers are warned to leave their wallets behind while patronising ladies of the night. With call girls often working in collusion with the cops, an unsuspecting customer could end up losing his freedom, dignity and, of course, money.
[Goanet]Changes to U.S. work visa rules
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Changes to U.S. work visa rules Thursday, June 24, 2004 Posted: 0049 GMT (0849 HKT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- Foreigners in the United States with worker visas must reapply for them overseas when they expire, the U.S. State Department has said. Department spokesman Richard Boucher said that in the past, foreigners with worker visas were able to reapply for visas in the United States. The reason for the switch, he said, is that U.S. embassies abroad are better equipped than government offices in the United States to interview and fingerprint the growing number of visa applicants. These people can stay as long as they want. They can leave when they want, Boucher said Wednesday. But when they come back, instead of getting a visa here in advance, they will have to get one overseas at one of our embassies and consulates and then come back. Diplomatic or official visas would continue to be processed in Washington and New York, the department said. The primary beneficiaries of the service in the United States have been foreign workers in computer and technology industries. Boucher said almost 50 percent of the applicants have been from India. Other nationalities in the top five are Japanese, Chinese, British and South Koreans. More than 50,000 people from more than 60 countries were processed last year, Boucher added. -- Opera - Simply the Best Internet Experience: http://www.opera.com
[Goanet]War games in India 'show up US'
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## War games in India 'show up US' By Nick Childs BBC Pentagon correspondent The success of India's air force against US fighters in an exercise suggests the US may be losing its air superiority, a US general has said. Gen Hal Hornburg said an exercise in February, known as Cope India, had been a wake-up call. The mock air battles in central India had pitted US F-15s against advanced Russian-designed Sukhoi SU-30s. General Hornburg said the results show the US may not be as far ahead of the rest of the world as it had thought. Cold War mentality Of course, it suits the US Air Force at the moment to argue that it needs to invest more in air power, as it tries to get funding for advanced new planes like the next generation of stealth fighters, the F/A-22 and F-35. Some analysts, and some members of Congress, argue that the air force is stuck in a Cold War mentality, and is pressing for planes that it does not really need. But establishing air superiority and air dominance is key to US strategy and many in the air force have argued that there are still many more sophisticated potential adversaries out there than Iraq and Afghanistan. -- Opera - Simply the Best Internet Experience: http://www.opera.com
[Goanet]Vacencies: Goa University, NIO
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Goa University and the National Institute of Oceanography have advertised vacencies in the June 19-25, 2004 issue of Employment News: * Goa University: Controller of Examinations; Assistant Director of Physical Education Sports; Assistant Registrar(s) Last date for applying July 15, 2004. * National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula: Researchers in ocean scientists: Scientist B Group IV(1) and Medical Officer Group III(4).
[Goanet]BOOK REVIEW: Settling scores with history (M Prabha in SaharaTime)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## SAHARATIME, June 26, 2004 * Page 36: BOOKS SETTLING SCORES WITH HISTORY Couto makes selective use of history in an attempt to redeem her father's past GOA: A DAUGHTER'S STORY Maria Aurora Couto Penguin Price Rs 495; Pages 436 By M PRABHA - HERE'S ANOTHER book on Goa. The author calls it a personal search, an attempt to understand the history of her community and the transformation within Goa society after the arrival of the Portuguese in AD 1510. The volume comprises 14 chapters -- excluding a substantially discursive prologue and epilogue. Her father, Dr Francisco de Figueiredo, was a teacher of Western music in the Portuguese Lyceum in Panjim in the Salazar era but had to relinquish that post to another maestro who arrived from Portugal. Thereafter, Figueiredo traded music for the study of medicine. After having qualified as a medical practitioner, her moved to Dharwar to practise among a larger clientele. He made a reentry to Goa alone when the Liberation Movement started (obviously, like Dom Moraes, he considered Goa his mother country and India a foreign power trying to grab it illegally). He died in Goa in 1959 -- his family left behind in Dharwar. Maria Couto regrets that the post-Liberation accounts of the history of music in Goa do not acknowledge her father's contribution. The book is offered, perhaps, as a gesture of atonement for that lapse. Dr Figueiredo was a romantic who fathered seven children in the true Wordsworthian style (We Are Seven). The writer's adoration of her dad is understandable but all his achievements scarcely elevate him to a genius. Primarily he was a proficient musicologist who composed funeral marches for the Good Friday procession which wended its way down Margao Hill to the church. A large part of the book is devoted to the etiology and methods of proselytisation adopted by the Portuguese and the salient features of their administration in their 400-year-old rule of Goa. The treatment of the theme is so conciliatory as to appear masochistic. Couto deliberately choses to ignore the facts of history as established. TB Cunha, the renowned patriot, in his *Goa's Freedom Struggle* wrote that in 1541, when there was already a surfeit of priests in Goa and only a few Christians, that the prosecution of Hindus really began. He writes, An order of the Governor dated 30 July 1541 bade that in Ilhas all the Hindu temples be destroyed The Hindus were then compelled to surrender the belongings of their temples for the maintenance of monastries and churches newly built. Conversion in Salcete and Bardez were entrusted to the Jesuits and the Franciscans respectively. A law passed on 23 May 1559 forbade Hindus from holding any public office. Another law ordained that Hindus dying without a mail heir would leave their properties to female relatives who perforce must become Christians. Other sources exist which speak of the brutalities committed by the Portuguese against the Hindus in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries which all make the inhuman barbarism of Auschwitz appear innocuous. Couto also does not vivisect the immediate past of Goa in the first half of the 20th century. She ignores Antonio de Oliveira Salazar regime's banking monopoly, its decision in 1944 to derecognise the Indian rupee and then to devalue it beyond redemption and its exchange rackets. She makes no mention of the insidious smuggling of goods beyond the border, maintenance of a huge Portuguese bureaucracy (notorious for wenching, boozing and venality) which drained Goa's exchequer. She also ignores the ruthless persecution of the local populace during the liberation movement, arbitrary arrests, detentions and tortures. Couto has included several historical, cultural and political figures in her narrative. But there are glaring omissions. In the struggle for Goa's freedom, she has skipped Lambert Mascarenhas, founder editor of *Goa Today*, who was a crusading journalist, besides being a writer of proven merit. His *Sorrowing Lies My Land* is a classic depiction of Goan travails under Salazar's rule. In the Konkani language movement, she bypasses the contributions by the prominent poet R V Pandit, whose name is synonymous with that of Manohar Rai Sar Desai. She mentions Armando Menezes, but does not seem to have heard of Joseph Furtado. And while talking of the sylvan settings of Goa in the inaugural chapter, she fails to cite Ashok Mahajan's *Goan Vignettes* -- probably the most lyrical evocation in
