[Goanet]Is this logic or stupidity or high handedness?
Scraping of policy decisions, is this logic or high handedness? President's rule is not a solution to the present problem. ... The Chief Secretary of the state, Ms Kiran Dhingra said: Major policy decisions are normally not taken during the President's Rule. But every time, the President's Rule is in force, decisions taken by the previous governments have been reversed? Why? Can the Governor/Chief Secretary/President or those against the previous Government answer? Link to the above question: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1046102.cms www.goanews.com/9aug01.htm www.webindia123.com/news/ showdetails.asp?id=70958&cat=India timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1042090.cms www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?gid=216&id=281129 www.rediff.com/business/1999/feb/18goa.htm Send your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gaspar Almeida Associate, www.goa-world.com
[Goanet]Goa to have a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 cr for 2005-06
Goa to have a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 cr for 2005-06 Press Trust of India New Delhi, March 17|15:22 IST Government on Thursday presented the budget for Goa now under President's Rule, which estimates a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 crore despite a 16 per cent rise in tax mop up during 2005-06. However, the state is slated to end with an overall surplus of Rs 104.64 crore for next fiscal. The state's fiscal deficit was budgeted at 8.98 crore but the revised estimate shows a surplus of Rs 75.74 crore for this fiscal. Finance Minister P Chidambaram, who presented the Goa Budget, sought a Vote on Account for the five months in Parliament. Presenting the Goa budget, he said revenue receipts of the state has been budgeted at Rs 2,872.94 crore while revenue expenditure was pegged at Rs 2,914.74 crore, which leaves a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 crore for 2005-06. Of the total revenue receipts, tax revenue is budgeted at Rs 1,166.23 crore during next fiscal compared to the revised estimate of Rs 1,005.66 crore and budget target of 967.57 crore estimated for 2004-05. Goa's share of central taxes, duties and grants-in-aid from Centre would be Rs 379.49 crore in 2005-06. The revenue deficit for next fiscal widened from a meagre Rs 7.95 crore budgeted for 2004-05 but was lower than the revised estimate of Rs 75.47 crore. Goa's Capital Receipts is budgeted at Rs 786.66 crore and Capital Expenditure would be Rs 751.52 crore next fiscal. "After accounting for transactions in the Public Account and the Opening Balance, the overall surplus in 2005-06 is estimated at Rs 104.64 crore," Chidambaram said. (Hindustan Times) - Forwarded by AlmeidaG, www.goa-world.com Konkani weekly V-Ixtt now online at www.v-ixtt.com Konkani monthly magazine now online at www.gulabonline.com __ Goans often find it easier to be a result of the past than a cause for the future. Isn't it time to change this? __
[Goanet]RE: Goanet Reader -- Of Goan opportunism, and India's political scene
The Independence is not solely given by Congress. The congress used divide & rule policy (British policy)& still using it. Only Mahatma Gandhi & Jawaharlal Nehru were not involved in the independence of India. I think the author has little knowledge of the past & has to review his knowledge. He forgot the Great Lal Bahadur Shastri, Bhagat singh, Moulana Azad, Veer Sawarkar, Rani Laxmibai, Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel, Rajaram Mohan Roy, All Krantiveer's & many unsung heroes. Congress knows only Gandhi & Nehru. But the real heroes were those I mentioned. The author seems to be well influence by Sonia Gandhi. I strongly oppose this article. U all has forgotten the real heroes. Salute them. Don't try & demolish our Great History where Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj made us proud & showed the way to Swarajya. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:43 PM Subject: [Goanet News Bytes]Goanet Reader -- Of Goan opportunism, and India's political scene GOAN OPPORTUNISM, THY NAME IS UGDP: UNDERSTANDING THE SCENE NATIONWIDE By Joseph Zuzarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that a truce of sorts has been declared, it's time to examine the current political mess under the microscope. Though it's easy to blame the Congress and the BJP for the mess, one of the major culprits in the Goa imbroglio would seem to be the UGDP, the regional outfit.
[Goanet]Goa-World.Com Team congratulates Shri Eric Ozario
Eric Ozario Appointed President Of 'Karnataka Konkani Sahitya Academy' Mangalore, March 15, 2005: Mr Eric Alexander Ozario, singer, composer, full-time cultural activist and Gurkar of Mandd Sobhann has been appointed as the President of "Karnataka Konkani Sahitya Academy" for the term of 3 years. This appointment has been made by the Hon'ble chief Minister of Karnataka State. Mr. Eric Ozario was the Chairman of the Cutural Committee of the First Konkani World Convention. He was also the Co-Convener of the World Convention of the Canara Konkani Catholics that was held in Mangalore, in December, 2004. Mr. Ozario has been honored and awarded by - Karnataka Rajya Prashasti 93 (Govt. of Karnataka); Senior Artiste Fellowship Mar. 2000 to Feb. 2002 (Govt. of India); Borpi Meetr Award Muscat, Oman 2003; Sandesha Special Award 93. He was also awarded 'Vishwa Konkani Kala Ratna' in the year 1995 during the First world Konkani Convention and Karanataka Konkani Sahitya Academy Award 99. Eric Ozario is the founder of 'Manndd Sobhann' a cultural organisation, of which he is presently the 'Gurkar' and has played major role in the launching of Konkani TV on local channel OCN. Read more: Mr. Eric Alexander Ozario on Mangaloren Star Mr. Eric Alexander Ozario [ August, 2004 ] Where there is a will there is a way Dreams Can become reality. However, it needs hard work, determination, self confidence and risk. Eric Ozario, Co- Founder of Mandd Sobhann and Kalaangann and a born singer has made his dreams come true through his hard work, devotion and difficulty and above all self confidence and love for music. Eric Alexander Ozario, singer, composer, full-time cultural activist, was born on May 18, 1949, in Jeppu, Mangalore. His parents are Late Prospero Ozario and Late Bernadette Ozario from Jeppu. Mr. Eric Ozario is the 7th among 10 subships. His 5 surviving siblings are: Evlyn, Sister Norma, Claude, Walter and Patsy. Mr. Ozario is an Aloysian, Commerce Graduate. Though Mr. Eric Ozario did not have any formal training in either western or eastern music, he is a firm believer that one is born with a sense of music. Music has been his first love since childhood. He worked earnestly from his college days. However, he got into the movement of working for cultural activities after 1986. He has put forth 30 years of his life into music field and has spent 18 years as a full timer. Initially he started a band called Sweet Serenade. He carried this for nearly 20 years and then he formed a band exclusively for Konkani music called Dabazo. This music basically catered to the needs of the people at the wedding and other programs. It was not serious music however, went on for some time. Then came Mandd Sobhann This is something different which works for the cause of Konkani culture and uses Indian instruments and ragas. Baila - Konkani dance that was well known among the Konkani people was waning in popularity was revived by Mandd Sobhannn and it had its first show in Mangalore in 1988 at Padua High school grounds. This was continued and 'Baila Show' was performed in various other countries along with Sri Lankan participants which is now famous internationally. Mr. Eric Ozario was the Chairman of the Cutural Committee of the First Konkani World Convention (1995). He was a special invitee at the First North American Konkani Convention at New Jersey, USA (August, 1996). He is also the Co- Convener of the World Convention of the Canara Konkani Catholics to be held in Mangalore, in December, 2004 (Dec. 26 through 29). He has composed music for more than 600 songs, presented around 600 shows (as a singer and music director) all over India and the Middle East (U.A.E., Kuwait Bahrain, Oman & Qatar); Recorded 15 albums (10 of self composed songs and 5 of documented folk); also recorded for state and national television. Mr. Ozario has also been twice featured on Surabhi a national T.V. show which features unique cultural achievers and achievements. (Dec. 92 and May 96). He has undertaken marathon journeys, tours and campaigns to awaken the Konkani heart and to create cultural awareness. Some of them are: Bhonvddi For 75 days(Sept. 9 to Nov. 22, 1995) toured the entire country, travelling nearly 15,000 Kms. in a mini bus, presenting 67 performances in preparation to the First Konkani World Convention (Dec. 95). Daiza Divya Yaatra 100 days (Feb. 19 to May 29, 1996) visited 10,361 houses, lighting The Lamp of Konkani Heritage in every house, in 3 Districts. Gulf Yaatra 75 days tour of Gulf countries, giving 62 private performances, to plead the cause of preserving culture and to recruit support for the Konkani Heritage Centre Kalaangann. (Oct. 3 to Dec. 17, 1997). Hyderabad and Mumbai Yaatra 90 days tour of the two cities for the same cause, with a small trou
[Goanet]BEYOND MENDING
BEYOND MENDING The laws notwithstanding, politicians have their own rules of the game. What happened in Jharkhand and in Goa before that shows how even the new anti- defection law can be bent in the race for power. When the law was enacted last year through the 91st amendment of the Constitution, it was generally hailed as an answer to the old game of defections. But the developments in both Jharkhand and Goa exposed the grey areas that party-hopping politicians could still exploit to their advantage. The 10th schedule of the Constitution, referred to in the new law, is categorical on two things. First, it says that an elected member of parliament or a state assembly will be disqualified if he or she defies the whip of the party on a vote or abstains from it. Second, the members who are elected as independents will be disqualified if they join any political party after the election. In accordance with the law, therefore, Mr Enos Ekka of the Jharkhand Party should have been disqualified for defying the directive of his partys president, Mr N.E. Horo, to support the United Progressive Alliance during the vote of confidence in the state assembly. The same logic should have applied to the UPA members who abstained from voting. In Goa, the double defection of Mr Filipe Neri Rodrigues, who was elected as an independent and supported the Bharatiya Janata Party briefly before joining the Congress, raised similar questions. The issues that the events threw up point to two things. One, there seems to be a further need to clarify the grey areas in the new anti-defection law. Two, a system has to be in place to prevent the speakers of the state assemblies from colluding with errant politicians. Obviously, no law designed to stop the elected members from subverting the mandate can be effective if the speakers are part of the subversion. The need to create such a system is particularly relevant at a time when fractured mandates are becoming the order of elections. Also, the disqualification of an errant member must not be postponed too long so that it becomes ineffective. In case the speakers themselves violate the law, it could be a good idea to give the Election Commission the power over such disqualifications. The stalemate in Jharkhand may have ended with Mr Arjun Munda winning the trust vote. But some basic questions on the health of the Indian democracy remain unanswered. - The Telegraph Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. Goa's finest websites: www.colaco.net www.supergoa.com www.goa-world.com
[Goanet]RE: Were most Goan Catholics earlier Hindus or Muslims?
My theory: it looks like we all have Hindu blood at least in our maternal bloodlines. Invaders have always been male. So if there was any intermingling or marrying it would be male Muslim invaders with Hindu women, and male Portuguese invaders with Hindu women, or Muslim women who must have had female Hindu ancestors. Bevinda Collaco
[Goanet]NEWS: Indian cities hardly worth living in
I would argue that Goa's villages are better off than cities in other parts of India, and offer a more satisfying quality of life. Specially if essentials can be taken care of -- water, electricity, public transportation, services, garbage. Doesn't happen everywhere but improvements are visible over the situation three decades ago. That's not good enought though! FN http://in.news.yahoo.com//050317/32/2k8ah.html Indian cities hardly worth living in ADVERTISEMENT Indian cities have been rated real low in a survey of the world's best cities to live in. The finding is based on overall quality of life and personal safety. Western European cities, led by Geneva, Zurich and Venice at the top, dominate the list of 215 cities released by the London-based Mercer a human resource consulting group. Overall, 25 of the 50 cities described as the world's best to live in are European. But some of Europe's most famous cities are at the bottom of the list, with Athens, Rome and London (29th) scoring poorly due to high levels of petty crime. Luxembourg ranks as the world's top city for personal safety and security, according to the survey. Mumbai, ranked 150th, is the top Indian metropolis in terms of quality of life followed by Bangalore and New Delhi (both 153). On the personal safety and security index, Bangalore and Chennai (both ranking 112) offer the best record followed by New Delhi (126) and Mumbai (139). "The top-ranking cities for personal safety and security are in politically stable countries with good international relations and sustainable economic growth," said Slagin Parakatil, Senior Researcher at Mercer. " Most of the low-scoring cities are in countries with civil unrest, little law enforcement, and high levels of crime." The world's least secure city is Baghdad, followed by Abidjan (Ivory Coast) and Lagos (Nigeria). The ranking has been calculated using 39 criteria, including economic, environmental, medical and health considerations, education, recreation, housing and political stability.
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o Goa budget presented in Lok Sabha
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1283239,0002.htm
Government on Thursday presented the budget for Goa now under President's
Rule, which estimates a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 crore despite a 16 per
cent rise in tax mop up during 2005-06. However, the state is slated to
end with an overall surplus of Rs 104.64 crore for next fiscal. The
state's fiscal deficit was budgeted at 8.98 crore but the revised estimate
shows a surplus of Rs 75.74 crore for this fiscal. Presenting the Goa
budget, he said revenue receipts of the state has been budgeted at Rs
2,872.94 crore while revenue expenditure was pegged at Rs 2,914.74 crore,
which leaves a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 crore for 2005-06.
o Political appointments in corporations withdrawn. Governor Jamir
has withdrawn the political appointments to state-owned
coroporations, made by the Rane government during its brief
period (in power), and directed the secretaries of these
corporations to oversee their functions. (NT)
o Congress MLAs as Corporations heads to be out. (NT)
o Parrikar puts up a brave front. Says vote bank not affected.
Parrikar said the victory of Congress-supported candidates
at the recently held zilla panchayat polls has not affected
the BJP's vote bank and, instead, the party's base has expanded.
"BJP's vote bank has always been urban oriented," he said,
adding, "the results were as expected by us and so I was
not surprised." Interestingly, it may be recalled that party
president Rajendra Arlekar, on election eve, had said that the
BJP-supported candidates would not only win a majority of the
seats but the chairpersons would also be from the BJP. (H_
o Goa's Employment Exchange to be revived, now that the
Pre-Employment Training Scheme (PETS), launched by the
Parrikar government, would be virtually discontinued. (H)
Staff on their toes as Jamir pays surprise visit
to Hospicio Hospital in South Goa. (Gomantak Times)
Parrikar swears by the Pre Employment Training
Scheme. Vows to reverse decision if returned to
power after by-polls. Chief Secretary Ms Kiran
Dhingra had said the government is spending more
on the salaries and wages of its employees and
it was necessary to downsize the expenditure. (GT)
No definite clues yet over the cause for the suicide
by three siblings at Bagwaddo, Sanvordem on
Wednesday. Their father Salin Fernandes is yet to
be traced in Hospet, Karnataka. He works at a
mining site. (GT)
Seaking a divorce is simple: lawyers suggest
framing false charges. (GT)
FOR MASSAGE AND WOMEN: CHALO SINQUERIM TO BAGA (Team GT/Gomantak Times)
NO FEAR OF COPS; HE GREASES EM ALL:
SINQUERIM: He could pass off as a suntanned version of
Lalu Prasad Yadav. Dressed in a bright yellow T-shirt,
matching track-pants and a streak of vermilion on his
forehead, Ashok (name changed) blends easily into the
group of Indian tourists strolling at Sinquerim beach
ogling at a couple of bikini-clad foreigners.
What few people know is that Ashok runs the entire
masseuse-prostitute-hawker-vendor racket in the
northern coastal belt and claims to have the police
under his control. Perhaps that would explain why
female masseuses have a free run of the beach
from Sinquerim to Baga.
When Team GT, posing as prospective shack owners,
approached him on Thursday morning, Ashok boasted,
"I make a minimum of Rs 20,000 everyday. Now that
I am sitting with you I must have lost about Rs 1000."
"Time is money and money is honey. I come to
the beach only with vermilion on my head and go
back with this," he said, unrolling a bundle
of notes which included one thousand Rupee notes
and several five hundreds at 11 am.
Explaining that he is a migrant from neighbouring
Maharashtra who lived off the beaches for the last 25
years, he says he knows every nook and corner
of Goa like the back of his palm. Ap
Re: [Goanet] Sending off a protest mail - Fr. Prasad Gonsalves
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Santosh, > >With reference to your words quoted below; I >strongly object u saying that I am linking the VHp and >or the BJP with the entire Hindu population. How dare >you?? I have re-read my post and do not find it as >such. > Nasci, I suggest you read what you wrote a couple of days ago, one more time. You admitted quite explicitly that you believe Hinduism and the ancient Indian heritage to be evil, in response to a direct question from me. Here are the relevant quotes for your convenience: Santosh says: >I guess you have to decide what exactly it is that you >are railing against. Are you railing against casteism, >Hinduism, our ancient Indian heritage or the Hindutva >ideology of some fundamentalist Hindu zealots of >today? Please let me know which one of these things >you consider to be evil. Nasci says: >Its all of these things; they are surely interlinked >and have evolved that way over the centuries. That's >why reform and a near "cultural revolution" is >required; if the perpetrators don't agree to change >willingly. > I am sure you don't want to come across as dishonest, in addition to being prejudiced. So I ask you again, to give you a chance to clarify your position or change it. Do you believe that Hinduism and ancient Indian heritage are evil? > >Perhaps you are examining some sort of guilt >conscience? > What exactly is it that you think I am guilty of? Of being born in a Hindu family? Of being opposed to your just fight against Hinduism and the ancient Indian heritage? Of not converting to Christianity or Buddhism? > >I only equate extremism with BJP, VHP and Bajrang >DaL and whatever. > It is not very apparent to me that you separate these extremists from the rest of the Indians who are not Christians. What you write smacks of blatant prejudice of essentially the same type as casteism and racism, in your case, directed towards Hindus and the ancient Indian heritage, in general. > >But u surely can't deny all hindus and the 'real >hindus'practice caste/ Racism; and protect their caste >identity vehemently. > I can certainly deny that all Hindus practice casteism or racism. There are many who have renounced casteist prejudice. Some have also renounced all practices even remotely related to the caste system. What I cannot deny is that a significant majority of them do practice a few customs stemming from casteism. I also submit to you that a large percentage of Indian Christians also practice casteism, and a comparably large percentage of Christians in the rest of the world practice racism. Some of them also practice religious and ethnic intolerance like you. > >How many hindus can u enumerate, who have or are even >willing to renounce their cateism and which is >racism?? > There is not a single person from a Hindu family that I know who is willing to openly defend the caste system. But it is true that most of them have not given up casteism entirely, primarily in the sense that they do not want their kids to marry outside their caste. The latter is also true with regard to white-on-black racism in the U.S. among Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. The sighting of a black-white couple is exceedingly rare, especially in the South. So this type of discrimination is not unique to the Hindu community or to India. Do white Australians marry the aborigines a lot? Do they marry Indians? I can enumerate several famous Hindus and Hindu reformers who renounced the caste system, and fought to eliminate it. I know quite a few ordinary people who have married outside their caste, if that should be taken as a litmus test for the complete renunciation of this type of bigotry. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Demographics in Goa...
Dear Fred, Is this demography or demon-graphy? It is all about labels like the "Arabian Sea" and the "Indian Ocean".When one tries to find their boundaries.one is all at sea! Does one really know where hinduism ends or catholicism begins? I have watched with disbelief as Diocesan and other priests drop a coin in the thali and receive tirth and prasad from the pujari. I have heard sing devout hindu girls sing church hymns when asked to sing a song in a picnic bus, where the only compulsion was to sing...and the song was of one's choice. Hindus and Christians offer oil to Milagris Saibinn and quite a few catholics swear at Bodgueshwar and Damodar temples, specially when they become ministers or are being baited to defect. Come to Mapusa in April ,specially around the feast days[11 to 13 April] if only "seeing is believing." The oaths in the temples were publicised in February,2005, in the local newspapers.. The Hindu BJP CM of Goa was in the front row at the installation of the Archbishop while a Catholic NCP former CM and former Advisor to the Catholic Bishop Conference of India[CBCI] was lost in the multitude. The photo of the BJP CM at the inaugural of the SFX Exposition was prominently printed on the NRI Facilitation Centre's Bulletin -III issued by the BJP-led committee at the Gomant Vishwa Sammelan this January. Catholics[ I do not know if they really qualify to be called "Christians"] from Goa have out-migrated, Hindus from the rest of India have in-migrated into India. Empowering of women has been happening since colonial daysand it has very little effect on sex or fecundity. Work pressures do not effect the number of children as the choice being exercised by normal people with some social responsibility. I do not think anyone would fall for an award for mothers that produce a dozen or more children today as they did in colonial era. Education is a powerful contraceptive. Employment and financial independence is another. Condoms are promoted to control HIV-AIDS and are freely available[ at a price].No effective Khadi condoms yet for the swadeshi but, for the desi, there is Choice or Mala-D.The TV channels take most of the fun out of sex[ though some have got interested in rapes and paedophiliawhich produce few kids.] MTP is available for those who get carried away by f-TV or MTV. One really does not know who counted whom and within what boundaries for the 1911 census. According to the 1991 census hardly anyone speaks Konkani as their mother tongue. Irritate almost anyone in Goa and the abuse flows smoothly in Konkani even to this day. "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" are not my words. They have been said before. ..."Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote>> A contentious set of posts about Goa...>> THE DEMOGRAPHIC DE-XTIANISATION OF GOA>> [ Subject: The demographic de-xtianisation of Goa>> [ From: "G.Subramaniam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Per the MD.Srinivas demography book,> In 1911, the xtian population of Goa was 55% and hindus were 45%> By 1991, it was 30% xtian and 65% hindu>> So what happened> The standard xtian syndrome of 'empowering women'. The xtians> over-educated and careerised their women and cut back on fertility> Remember Goa is a catholic place and catholicism opposes family planning> this syndrome is even more rampant among protestants> In the meantime, the more traditional hindus breeded their way to victory> Goa now has a BJP CM>> G.S> ---> From: "Last Timer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Find messages by this author> Date: 18 Dec 2004 12:12:44 -0800> Makes as much sense as:
RE: [Goanet]That's the way it is...
Hi Frederick, An interesting case. I know lots of NRI Goans who have similar problems. An advocate who can respond/act promptly, keep his/her clients informed and charge reasoble, previously agreed fees would get a lot of work. Any takers? Tony Soares -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Noronha (FN) Sent: 17 March 2005 09:08 To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]That's the way it is... http://www.homesgoa.com/WebPages/QA/Legal_Queries.htm#Question11 Question 12: My father was from Goa and owned some properties in Goa. Now I am considering retiring in Goa. When I came down to Goa to my surprise my house was occupied by some persons whom I don't know. How can I evict them from the house? Can they make a claim of tenant/mundkar? C. Rodrigues (Mumbai) Adv. T. Jaques: Since you claim that some one is occupying your house without permission you will have to file a suit against the same person to evict him from your house. The occupant may claim tenancy rights or mundkarial rights depending upon who has established such a relationship, which may not be binding on you. However the time that he is in occupation will be relevant vis-a-vis the person who was looking after your house during your absence. In any event your Advocate appointed to take care of the matter will definitely guide you before filing the case. _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Writing with a difference, on issues that really make the difference.
[Goanet]NEWS: Kerala, airport, initiatives... can Goa follow?
http://in.news.yahoo.com//050317/43/2k8ou.html Chandy vows improved service at Kerala airport By Indo-Asian News Service Thiruvananthapuram, March 17 (IANS) Kerala Chief Minister Oommen Chandy Thursday assured the state assembly that he would initiate steps to make the Cochin International Airport Ltd (CIAL) more passenger-friendly. Chandy was replying to a calling attention motion by legislator Umesh Challiyil, who said passengers returning from the Middle East faced heavy demurrage charges by the CIAL warehouse. "There is no demurrage for the first five days and then for each day, the charges go up. If there is a delay of 25 days, for every kilogram a demurrage of Rs.53 is charged," said Challiyil. Chandy, also CIAL chairman, added: "We would certainly look into what can be done to increase the grace period from the present five days to a convenient period. We will also look into improving the employees' attitude towards passengers." Mac Ali, another legislator, tild IANS the other two state airports have a longer grace period before which demurrage charges are levied. Challiyil told IANS: "When I came from Dubai last month, I had to wait for nearly two hours." Only when he disclosed his identity was he accorded "good" treatment. CIAL is the country's first privately funded airport. Its performance has improved and the airport is in the process of writing off its earlier losses.
[Goanet]Re: BBC propaganda - II
Dear Mario Gouveia, How delightful to hear from you - once again. You (Mario) have made 4 points in your recent posts which interest me. 1. < Maybe you (JC) are as gullible as Eddie is> 2. <"Wogs" or "Pakis" or whatever they are calling you these days > 3. < You (JC) haven't made a single cogent comment about the specifics of the content and MOTIVES of the BBC > 4. < Beeb (THE BBC) is now a subtle proponent of mostly left-wing propaganda > JC response-> It is quite possible that JC is just as gullible as Eddie is; but NOT as brainwashed as Mario is. It is possible, right? Why you would refer to "ancient history" and resurrect "Wogs" or "Pakis" in 2005 beats me. If you ask me, the Subcontinent has just taken over the UK. So much so that many in Britain believe that Curry is a plant which grows in a BALL-TEA in Southall and Birmingham, with Bradford and Leicester coming very close thereafter. I do apologize for my inability to make ANY comment about SOMEBODY ELSE'S motives - the BBC's or yours. If one looks at the meaning of the word MOTIVE, one might realise that it is kind of difficult to do so. But then, you might be good at that stuff. Righties (like the BJP and their amigos) are normally good at "making up" motives and attaching them to others. Having said that, I invite you to provide evidence to support your assertion that THE BBC is now a subtle proponent of MOSTLY left-wing propaganda. Please do so - it would be nice to get a reaction or two from the BBC. I believe that I can definitely get hold of someone who might wish to review your view. So...there you are. good wishes as always jc _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Back home, one might have mixed feelings about such a development
http://in.news.yahoo.com//050317/43/2k8s6.html Thursday March 17, 6:12 PM NRI to build India's largest 'shoppertainment' mall By Indo-Asian News Service ADVERTISEMENT Bangalore, March 17 (IANS) After building royal palaces, majestic villas, grandiose mosques and posh hotels in the Gulf, a non-resident Indian has set his sights on India's Silicon Valley to build the country's largest retail mall. P.N.C. Menon, who has lived in Oman for the last three decades, is embarking on his new venture - Sobha Global Mall in the heart of the city at an estimated cost of Rs.15 billion ($345 million). "As of today, our upcoming mall project will be the largest in India, spread over 17 acres with a built up area of 2.8 million sq. feet. The mall complex is being developed on the site where old Minerva Mills of the National Textile Corporation (NTC) was located. It was bought for Rs.660 million ($15 million) in an open auction. Apart from a shopping complex, an amusement park, 192-room plush hotel, convention centre, multiplex and smart offices, the mall will boast of an Olympic size ice skating rink, the first of its kind in the sub-continent," Menon told reporters Thursday. Menon set up the Sobha Group, the Indian subsidiary of Muscat-based Services & Trade Group (S&T), with the aim of introducing international benchmarks and expertise in the Indian construction industry. The group's parent company has presence in Qatar and the UAE. To be jointly developed with Davnam Constructions Ltd, headed by former Karnataka minister D.K. Shivkumar, the mall will also have parking bays for about 4,500 cars at a time and a discotheque that will accommodate over 1,000 people. "We are taking up the project in phases to build the mall in a modular way and it will become operational from 2008-09. We intend to make the mall a one-stop destination having everything from high end luxury goods to economy shopping, exciting recreational activities and social and business interaction opportunities," Menon said. With Bangalore emerging as the hub of well-heeled travellers and opinionated consumers, the mall will address a full spectrum of social-cum-business requirements. "We are also planning to have a contemporary business tower along with the convention centre to meet the needs of modern establishments. I came to India with a dream of bringing international quality to the local construction industry," he said. World-renowned architect and design consultant Neil Jeffrey is associated with the project, which is expected to create about 10,000 direct and indirect jobs when fully operational. The Rs.10 billion ($230 million) Sobha group has built Infosys' campuses across the country, including its latest corporate leadership institute in Mysore. The group is projecting a turnover of Rs.12 billion in fiscal 2005-06 based on the estimates of a dozen projects it is handling presently.
Re: [Goanet]Re: BBC propaganda
--- jose colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. singularly inimitable drivel ( touché ) > Mario replies: The infantile drivel comes from you, JC, since all you have done is levy some cheap personal insults without any specifics to back them up. You haven't made a single cogent comment about the specifics of the content and motives of the BBC in airing the 2 programs that Eddie recommended, one with a false premise that secularism is dead in India and the other a gratuitous and inflammatory program called "Final Solution" about Godhra. Maybe you are as gullible as Eddie is.
[Goanet]Language lesson for Francesca !
We share the word for Heaven - its Svorog in both Russian and Konkanni, but our Valhalla i am convinced is far superior, but when it comes to vodoka it's quite a different matter - we save ours for Cecil's watermelon patch ! Not to worry Ses, promise you a quart of the real thing, soon !! eric. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]Goa budget... out in New Delhi!
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1283239,0002.htm Goa to have a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 cr for 2005-06 Press Trust of India New Delhi, March 17|15:22 IST Advertisement Government on Thursday presented the budget for Goa now under President's Rule, which estimates a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 crore despite a 16 per cent rise in tax mop up during 2005-06. However, the state is slated to end with an overall surplus of Rs 104.64 crore for next fiscal. The state's fiscal deficit was budgeted at 8.98 crore but the revised estimate shows a surplus of Rs 75.74 crore for this fiscal. Finance Minister P Chidambaram, who presented the Goa Budget, sought a Vote on Account for the five months in Parliament. Presenting the Goa budget, he said revenue receipts of the state has been budgeted at Rs 2,872.94 crore while revenue expenditure was pegged at Rs 2,914.74 crore, which leaves a revenue deficit of Rs 41.79 crore for 2005-06. Of the total revenue receipts, tax revenue is budgeted at Rs 1,166.23 crore during next fiscal compared to the revised estimate of Rs 1,005.66 crore and budget target of 967.57 crore estimated for 2004-05. Goa's share of central taxes, duties and grants-in-aid from Centre would be Rs 379.49 crore in 2005-06. The revenue deficit for next fiscal widened from a meagre Rs 7.95 crore budgeted for 2004-05 but was lower than the revised estimate of Rs 75.47 crore. Goa's Capital Receipts is budgeted at Rs 786.66 crore and Capital Expenditure would be Rs 751.52 crore next fiscal. "After accounting for transactions in the Public Account and the Opening Balance, the overall surplus in 2005-06 is estimated at Rs 104.64 crore," Chidambaram said.
[Goanet]Naming Game 2 - Kazar (Wedding) Reply to Lino
Na re Linobab, anv kazari Devache kurpem. Mozo ek cheddo asa ani moji bhail pakli. and before you ask... mojo cheddo zala aple maim baxen focot kalle kens moje. chukon Devan amkam anik ek bhurgem bhi dilem zalear, tuka amcho KUMPAR mat korunk visorchinant. Asai mure tum raji?? quote: lino dourado goanet@goanet.org Wed Mar 16 03:55:34 2005 Hello Joe bab, Ankvar kitem re tum? Soirik korunk zai? Lino for NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for SFX Expo & cheap Goa flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Living in a soc.history.what-if world
One search of (my favourite) Wikipedia threw up the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_V_of_Portugal QUOTE Pedro V of Portugal (September 16, 1837 - November 11, 1861) was King of Portugal from 1853 to 1861. He was the oldest son of Queen Maria da Glo'ria and her King-Consort Ferdinand II. Pedro was an unusually conscientious and hard-working monarch who, under the guidance of his father, sought radical modernisation of the Portuguese state and infrastructure. Under Pedro's reign, roads, telegraphs, and railways were constructed and improvements in public health advanced. However, this was unable to save the life of the young king who died (along with his brother Ferdinand) of cholera in 1861. He was married to Princess Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, but had no successors and the throne then passed to brother Luis. ENDQUOTE ... and do you know about the soc.history.what-if network? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.history.what-if/browse_frm/thread/455859521e2a145e/123390bf9351f18f?q=Goa+Portugal&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3DGoa+Portugal%26start%3D10%26scoring%3Dd%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#123390bf9351f18f Below is one good example of how well-reasoned speculations take place (WI stands for 'what if'): WI: King Pedro V of Portugal survived the cholera outbreak of 1861 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 1, 2:13 pm show options Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if Date: 1 Jan 2005 14:13:09 -0800 Subject: WI: King Pedro V of Portugal survived the cholera outbreak of 1861 And lived another 50 years, dying in 1911 at age 74. In our time line Pedro was an able, effective administrator who built roads, telegraphs, hospitals, and otherwise attempted to modernize the country. Cholera put an end to that. The throne went to his younger brother, Luis, who had no interest in government, and thence to Luis' son, Carlos, who was well-intentioned but spendthrift. Under Luis and Carlos, Portugal stagnated, falling further and further behind the rest of Western Europe, and was declared bankrupt twice, in 1892 and 1902. Carlos and his eldest son, Luis Felipe, were assassinated in 1908, and Carlos' was succeeded by his second son, 19 y.o. Manuel II. Manuel was overthrown in 1910 and the Portuguese Republic was established. But what if Pedro had survived the cholera epidemic and Portugal hadn't fallen behind? -- Did Portugal become a constitutional monarchy? (I don't think it was already, was it?) -- Did Pedro produce an heir via his wife, Prince Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen? -- Were the Portugues the first Southern Europeans to emulate the social welfare experiments of the Scandivians et al.? Eventually, Pedro realizes that with its Empire Portugal is expending more resources than it is gaining. In the summer of 1910, 18 months before his death, Pedro announces that he will auction off the following colonial assets to the highest bidder: -- Angola -- Mozambique -- Portugues Guinea -- Cape Verde Islands -- Macau -- Goa & Dimiu The bidding is open to: The United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Imperial Russia, the United States, and Japan Who gets what? Do the Great Powers intervene? Does Portugal make out like a bandit? Is Pedro overthrown for this affront to Portuguese national pride? Or hailed as a savior? Richard Jasper Ann Arbor, MI ENDQUOTE Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://fn-floss.notlong.com http://goabooks.swiki.net * Reviews of books on Goa... and more
[Goanet]Re: flying clubs
Hi, I will not go into the details of carrier pilot training on this forum. Let me put it to you and your airport sidekick Phillip this way-- Would you train a prospective Grand Prix driver on a live track during an F1 race at Sepang or Interlagos? Obviously the training has to be graduated. What was Tom Cruise doing ashore at the top gun air base at Miramar, California, if you saw the movie *Top Gun*? , besides making love to Kelly MacGillis, that is? A classic case of advanced training ashore. When do you train a Labrador to assist blind or disabled people? Only when the dog is a year old, has matured, and completed basic training. Do you want me to get down to basics any further? On second thoughts, I will leave it at that. In my next mail I will tell you about pilot training in the Australian Navy in the 1970s when they had a solitary carrier called HMAS MELBOURNE(Vikrants sister). Or maybe you should ask your neighbours out there. regards, Gilbert Menezes. I > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:41:16 +1100 (EST) > From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re:flying clubs > To: goanet@goanet.org > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > --- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Anyone who equates advanced training on high > > performance fighter > > aircraft like the Seaharrier or MIG29K ,to an > > activity of a *flying > > club* needs to have his head examined. > > Dabolim was conceived as and built for civilian use. > Dabolim was apparently handed over to the Indian Navy > post Dec-1961 as 'caretakers' by the then Candeth > Govt. Now the Navy effectively 'own' it to the > detriment of civilian flights. > > Sure the naval pilots need training. Initial training > on trainer aircraft can be carried out on land-based > trainer aircraft, but aren't Sea Harrier and MiG29 > aircraft carrier-based? Aren't naval pilots supposed > to learn to tackle take-offs and landings from the > moving and rolling platforms of aircraft carriers with > their associated catapults and arrestors rather than > from fixed-point steady land-based air-strips where > such additional equipement is not necessary? Why > land-based 'stations'? > > And how many pilots are they eternally training for > the few aircraft carriers that India possesses? Do > they really require most of every daylight hours for > their training? Do they practice night-time flying? > > In my point of view, as I am sure it from Philip's as > well, this 'extravagance' of using advanced aircraft > on land-based stations does seem rather like an elite > 'flying club'. It serves no purpose other than > practicing formation-flying (if at all) and > dive-bombing, which could have been carried out at sea > as well. Practice at sea would additionally train the > pilots in the fine art of locating and landing on a > moving platform, thus using aircraft for the purpose > they were designed to. > > > Friends,> this is not an extra > > curricular fun passtime. It is designed to meet the > > threats of the > > future so that in time of need, we have highly > > proficient pilots to > > carry out the multi role tasks of establishing air > > superiority, land > > and sea strike, and any other tasks required for the > > defence of this > > nation. > > Precisely. In times of need, the naval pilots would > fly straight from an aircraft carrier (not from a > land-based station such as Goa) to their intended > target. It is the *Air Force* that normally takes off > from land-based aircraft, and then again, they are of > different design and meant for purposes probably > different from the Navy's. > > > Who are the vested interests, you mention? > > Over to you, Philip. > > Cheers, > > Gabriel de Figueiredo. > Melbourne - Australia.
[Goanet]Game 2 (Kazar)
Some more here.. Dorji, vojem, sagvad, dukor, aros, cake, dos, bar, MC, kazra-bos, hall, vigorz, bouquet, beer-soro, sofdrink, convit/invitation card, Rop kadop, grinal, ev, luvam/gloves, jog, mudi, sorpolli, tamonn, cher, roxi, almar, soirim-dairim, doton or course, vhorr etc Kitem re Cecil bab, Fred bab ani her membr, tumchim kazaram goem bhair zalim kitem re ? Sodeak tumi goem tori asat mure? Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]hi
Hello everyone! I'm an Italian journalist based in Moscow, Russia. I've been to Goa last year and I'm planning to visit your wonderful state again in April. I subscribed this list, because I just want to learn more about Goan culture/life/religion/politics and so on. Francesca -- Francesca Mereu The Moscow Times Staff Writer / News Desk Tel (7095) 937.3399 Fax (7095) 937.3393 www.themoscowtimes.com
Re: [Goanet]BBC propaganda
--- Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario, > I had intended to let you have the last word and to ignore your singularly inimitable drivel but you are in sore need of education even if you choose to dismiss what I say as bovine flatulence :-) > > You would profit from reading goanet posts before shooting off. I had also provided urls for further information. To take the two programmes that are to be aired by the BBC this Sunday: > > The first one, Hindu Nation, presented by Sir Mark Tully, is a repeat. I watched it when it was first broadcast in Aug 2003 and again in Nov. 2004. I suggest you check on Tully's standing in India Mario replies: Eddie, I don't care about SIR Mark Tully's standing in India or anywhere else. I was reacting to your synopsis which described his premise as the end of secularism in India and the victory of Hindu nationalism, which are flat out bovine excrement, not just flatulence. Does his reputation and rows with the BBC change that? I don't think so. If I misinterpreted your synopsis, mea culpa. Eddie continues: > The second programme, Final Solution is an independent production by Rakesh Sharma which took over two years to make and was then banned by the BJP. This was finally lifted around the time of the Elections. There have been waves of media publicity about this film. Where have you been? > Mario replies: Godhra was a blot on recent Indian communal history. It probably led to the BJP losing the next national elections because people were reminded that they were really Hindu supremacists at heart. This atrocity was the exception, not the rule. India is trying hard to get it behind them. Why is the BBC picking at this scab with shows with incendiary titles like Final Solution, harking back to the Nazis? Stop being so gullible regarding the BBC. This is no longer the high-minded, trustworthy Beeb of a generation ago, but is now a subtle proponent of mostly left-wing propaganda.
Re: RE: [Goanet]Naming Game 2 - Kazar (Wedding)
Trosseau is dennem alrady mentioned. Sarro the red clothes/sari worn by the bride the next day of the wedding. The songs at the wedding are Vers. Are they ribald, I thought they were more about each family member. This game is really nice Sonia do Rosario Gomes - Original Message - From: Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:44 pm Subject: RE: [Goanet]Naming Game 2 - Kazar (Wedding) > >From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > >To: goanet@goanet.org > >Subject: [Goanet]Naming Game 2 - Kazar (Wedding) > >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:44:23 + (GMT) > > > > > >Here is another topic 'Kazar' ou 'Logn' > > > >Name anything that relates to 'Kazar' > > > >from SOIRIK, Resper/kazar to Honeymoon > > > >Here are some rare names: > >Kanknnacho Chuddo (Vokol), Porkodunk, salleacho Vistid, apounnem > ou mhoino, > >xim, > >folliechem Jevonn, segundiacho vistid, sasmaim/saspai, dher/uni, > >meunno/meunni, > >vojem, bol, zot (dowry),dennem, ros, mando, laudate, ladin, > mattov, > >fogettio etc > > > >more to follow.. > > > >In the mean time pl try yours. > > > >thanks > > > > > > Dhe'do/dhe'di (bestman/bridesmaid) > Bikaranchem jevon (meal fore village beggars) > Zatanchem/chezaranchem bençanv (elders'/neighbours' blessing) > Kek (cake) > > There is a word for the 'trosseau' that escapes me. > Also, the ribald songs during 'rôs' are called? > > Alfred de T. > > _ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > >
[Goanet]Beaches
I once asked a "gaddekar" who used to pass by our house almost everyday early in the morning at about 4 o'clock why he was extracting sand from the beach. I told him it was illegal and not right. He replied that he was fully aware that it was illegal and it was not correct. But he queried ' what am I to do? ". Everybody tells me " Arre Anand, ili renv hadd num". People wanted a little bit of sand. But sand was usually supplied in truckloads. Fortunately of late somebody has started supplying sand, etc in retail in Calangute and Porvorim. So I think and hope that Anand has stopped extracting sand from the Candolim beach. Richard
[Goanet]Adieus Angela!
Adieus Angela! Just a few minutes ago, learnt with deep sorrow of the sad and untimely demise of Mrs. ANGELA D'SOUZA from Kuwait, beloved wife of my collegue and family friend, Mr. Gabriel D'Souza, beloved mother of Tony, Velencia and Malenius, who passed away in Mumbai, today 17th March, 2005 in the afternoon. On this sad occassion, we express our profound grief and extend our heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family and pray Almighty Lord grant, each one of them, enough strength and courage to face the irrepairable loss that has befallen them. In her passing away we have lost a dear friend, an excellent personality, selfless as ever, who would go to any extent to lend a helping hand to anyone who needed it most. She lived a very simplistic life, full of humility and endearment, which made her amiable among her friends, colleagues and neighbours. Through her examplary life, she has left behind a lasting impression on all those who came in contact with her. She will certainly be missed by all those who knew her well. All that can be said for the time being is a prayer for the repose of her poor soul in the heavenly abode. My family joins me in expressing a tearful farewell to our beloved friend, Angela. Adieus! Gabriel, Tony, Valencia & Malenius, we share your grief, may God bless you all! Yours in sorrow, Rabindra Pimenta & family. Kuwait, 17.03.05 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
Remember: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead, anthropologist "This country will not be a good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a good place for all of us to live in." Theodore Roosevelt "How wonderful it is that no one need wait a single moment before starting to change the world." Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl "If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else." Booker T. Washington "Everyone can be great because anyone can serve. You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve. You only need a heart full of grace, a soul generated by love." Martin Luther King, Jr. "I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do." Edmund Everett Hale Did you know that you cat is having as much fun, while you are trying to get rid of it? A man hated his wife's cat and he decided to get rid of it. He drove 20 blocks away from home and dropped the cat there. The cat was already walking up the driveway when he approached his home. The next day, he decided to drop the cat 40 blocks away but the same thing happened. He kept on increasing the number of blocks but the cat kept on coming home before him. At last he decided to drive a few miles away, turn right, then left, past the bridge, then right again and another right and so on until he reached what he thought was a perfect spot and dropped the cat there. Hours later, the man calls his wife at home and asked her, "Jen is the cat there?" "Yes, why do you ask?" answered the wife. Frustrated the man said, "Put that cat on the phone, I am lost and I need directions." . A man hated his wife's cat and he decided to get rid of it. He drove 20 blocks away from home and dropped the cat there. The cat was already walking up the driveway when he approached his home. The next day, he decided to drop the cat 40 blocks away but the same thing happened. He kept on increasing the number of blocks but the cat kept on coming home before him. At last he decided to drive a few miles away, turn right, then left, past the bridge, then right again and another right and so on until he reached what he thought was a perfect spot and dropped the cat there. Hours later, the man calls his wife at home and asked her, "Jen is the cat there?" "Yes, why do you ask?" answered the wife. Frustrated the man said, "Put that cat on the phone, I am lost and I need directions." Have fun! Joe Vaz __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]Re: BBC propaganda
WRT to posts from Eddie Fernandes and Mario Gouveia, the snippets (attached at the foot of this message) caught my attention: The Key Words (for me) in Eddie Fernandes' post : My brief comments in (brackets) 1. singularly inimitable drivel ( touché ) 2. bovine flatulence ( energy savings ahead ) 3. shooting off ( but of course ) 4. Do read ( touché 2 ) 5. Where have you been? ( yeah..where exactly have you been? ) 6. not suggesting - no racism in the BBC or in the UK ( not in Hick Country neither) The Key Words (for me) in Mario Goveia's post : My brief comments in (brackets) 1. BBC with its recent history of twisting the truth ( ha! ha! ha! Mummy Look WHO is talking ) 2. "Wogs" or "Pakis" or whatever they are calling you these days ( Where have you been? ) 3. Indian expats like you ( and like you ?) jc Snippets From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mario, I had intended to let you have the last word and to ignore your singularly inimitable drivel but you are in sore need of education even if you choose to dismiss what I say as bovine flatulence :-) You would profit from reading goanet posts before shooting off. I had also provided urls for further information. To take the two programmes that are to be aired by the BBC this Sunday: I suggest you check on Tully's standing in India . Do read some of his writings. Your claim of a conspiracy by the BBC beggars belief. Final Solution is an independent production... banned by the BJP. Where have you been? I am not suggesting that there is no racism in the BBC or in the UK - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eddie, actually it is the education that you should be thankful for. Blindly believing the BBC with its recent history of twisting the truth contributes to the ignorance and prejudices of Brits, and may make them feel superior to you "Wogs" or "Pakis" or whatever they are calling you these days, but it is Indian expats like you who need to set the record straight. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]That's the way it is...
http://www.homesgoa.com/WebPages/QA/Legal_Queries.htm#Question11 Question 12: My father was from Goa and owned some properties in Goa. Now I am considering retiring in Goa. When I came down to Goa to my surprise my house was occupied by some persons whom I don't know. How can I evict them from the house? Can they make a claim of tenant/mundkar? C. Rodrigues (Mumbai) Adv. T. Jaques: Since you claim that some one is occupying your house without permission you will have to file a suit against the same person to evict him from your house. The occupant may claim tenancy rights or mundkarial rights depending upon who has established such a relationship, which may not be binding on you. However the time that he is in occupation will be relevant vis-a-vis the person who was looking after your house during your absence. In any event your Advocate appointed to take care of the matter will definitely guide you before filing the case. _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Writing with a difference, on issues that really make the difference.
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TRIPLE SUICIDE ROCKS SANVORDEM: Three siblings commited
suicide by setting themselves ablaze in their residence
at Baagvaddo, Sanvordem. Charred bodies of two sisters,
Libania Fernandes (30), Terezinha Fernandes (28) and
their brother Felix (25) were found by their mother
Aurora Salin Fernandes, who returned home after a two-
week stay at her sister's place in Vasco. Their mother
said, "I do not know what happened or why they have done
this. Only God knows," and wept inconsolably. Their
father was residing in Hospet, and is in the truck
business. Another sibling, Alexander, works in Sharjah.(H)
o Goa BJP-launched Pre Employment Training Scheme (PETS), which came
in for severe criticism, will not continue for long. This scheme
will continue for only 1030 trainees. (H)
o Joe Dias and Atul Verlekar are in the race for the
South Goa zilla chairperson's post. Sources said incumbent
chairperson Nelly Rodrigues has shown an interest in
continuing in the post, but her claim lacks the support of
all groups. (H)
o BJP yet to come to terms over its poor showing in the zilla panchayat
elections. In North Goa, the name of controversial former Town and
Country Planning minister Babush Monserrate's wife, elected
unopposed from Taleigao, is making the rounds for the top post. (H)
o Porvorim police arrested four persons on Wednesday for allegedly
assaulting a tailor who refused to quit his job, after the other four
were retrenched by their boss. (H)
o 400 children of the Bicholim government primary school in the heart
of Bicholim town are at grave risk as cracks in their school
worsened following the earthquake tremours on March 14. (H)
o Seminar on GIS, Geographic Information Systems, at Dhempe College,
March 19-20. (NT)
o Flying squads to curb malpractices during board exams formed. (NT)
YESTERDAY'S (MARCH 16) HEADLINES: * Congress-backed candidates sweep
zilla panchayat polls (NT) * No intention to dissolve Goa assembly (NT) *
PHOTO OF THE DAY: Governor Jamir, with an unusual cap, is showered
with flowers by local residents at the Mayem panchayat. (GT)
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VILLAGE VOICE: FOCUS ON OLAULIM IN BARDEZ
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PRETTY PHOTOGRAPHS FROM A PICTURESQUE PLACE: "O' Lovely" -- an exhibition of
photographs on Olaulim Village in Bardez -- shortly gets underway in this
small hamlet adjoining the larger and better-known Aldona. It has been put
up by photo-enthusiast whom many of us associated with the local press would
know, Afonso 'Bond' Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Born and bred in the city of Mapusa, Bond along with his family has
been living in this lovely village of Olaulim since October 1986.
Bond says he came across the pleasures of photography when his elder
brother bought a camera and he, out of curiosity started using it on
the sly. His brother discovered the 'theft' only when he developed
the film! That was somewhere way back in his schooldays.
Today, he has his own set of cameras and they are his constant companions
wherever in the world he travels. Bond's photographs have appeared in almost
all the local dailies in Goa, besides showing up in the Mid-Day of Mumbai
and the Arab Times of Kuwait. Some of his photographs have played a vital
part in the campaign of for Konkani in the 'eighties before Goa attained
statehood. Bond has done photography commercially for Goa's Tourism
Department and a number of starred hotels in Goa, including the Leela's.
Besides photography, he is also actively associated with various NGOs. He
has been in the forefront in other art fields like music, composing,
singing, tiatr etc. To those visiting the Mapusa market, where he runs his
family's Luizinha Stores along with wife Sara, he's a popular figure with a
smile written on his face.
This is his first exhibit of photographs, where he displays the different
facets of "Lovely Olaulim". The exhibition will be inaugurated by Sr. Maria
Dolores Sueiras, mother general of the Congregation
[Goanet]Right, Wrong and Mindset?
Hey Mario, Surprise! Surprise! Wow! You seem to understand what I write. But I am not sure I understand what I read. Can you be more specific and simple in your questioning? What exactly are you probing? Avelino Bastora/Kuwait _ --- "D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All the recent debates including the caste debate have religious overtones. One may call it a gimmick, holier-than-thou mindset or acute weakness to impose religious viewpoint. > Mario replies: Hey, Avelino, how about the more basic concept of right and wrong? Did that ever occur to you? Or is caste discrimination OK with you because the Christian religion is supposed to oppose it because of "a gimmick, holier-than-thou mindset or acute weakness..." What kind of a mind-set do you have?
Re: [Goanet]Fred choking on watermelons
"Cecil Pinto" wrote: > There is a Goan saying that one must not eat watermelon for at least a few > hours after consuming alcohol. This is a total myth. I have consumed a half > watermelon (the best from Parra) after consuming 2 half-quarters (3 pegs / > 180 ml/ 18 dl) of Siolim Caju Feni and was none the worse. > Burp! > Cecil Arey Cecil Bab, That was an old Goan saying... Our Aje/ponje used to have daily (365 days) noon/night the same quota NITTwhich you now have once a day and am sure you must be knowing the quality of the feni thenbe it madd/caju...or Siolim /Salcette feni. Atanche bhurge dent bho pion thight zatai mure:) Cheers Eddie Verdes Chinchinim/Mumbai/Jeddah
Re: [Goanet]: Saffronised agnostics?
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:16:21 +0530, karla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Fred, > > That was quite a lengthy defense of Flaviano, a Velimkar[ from Salcete > Velim] who believes that the AVC people [ the Desai revolt] inspired the > Indian mutiny of 1857. .. >. If Flaviano has courage and conviction , he should have refuted Manohar > Parrikar's contention that he[ Flaviano] was a Catholic. Even that would > have put paid to Parrikar's defence of the seedy VCD. His deafening silence > on this point exposed his prostitution of thought and nomenclature...a > Portuguese Kolvont always commanded a higher price during the colonial days. RESPONSE: It has nothing to do with courage, more to do with being forthright; Parrikar used his (Flaviano's) name to the detriment of the objectors of the VCD and the man Flaviano allowed this misconception, regarding his beliefs to pass without correcting it. This is despicable. Could it be to do with his pension of Rupees 10,000 that I have read about somewhere? Not the proverbial 30 pieces of silver? Cheers. Gabe Menezes London England.
Re: [Goanet]1/2 Quarters and Tank Capacity
Dear Lino, The capacity of my motorcycle tank (Yamaha YBX 125 cc) is 11 litres. After so many years of internal rusting the capacity should have expanded to at To clarify. After 2 half-quarters I become very talkative. After 3 half quarters I become 'comic' (Konkani for "very funny and boisterous") After 4 half quarters I become argumentative After 4 half-quarters and a 5 rupee shot I insist that everyone join me in singing mandos, even the tavern owner and his family. Now you figure my "capacity" Cheers! Cecil Dear Cecil, You know that drinking too much alcohol can bring on that nasty hangover headache. Drink slowly because it gives your body a chance to handle it. You don't overload your liver with nasty alcohol, don't drink on an empty stomach, and don't drink and drive, Yamaya YXB 125. We all loves you. Take care Lino http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]Demographics in Goa...
A contentious set of posts about Goa... ttp://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.hindu/browse_frm/thread/e38a7d9666c72ed8/11a6c2f5c870afb9?q=Goa+Portugal&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fq%3DGoa+Portugal%26start%3D20%26scoring%3Dd%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#11a6c2f5c870afb9 THE DEMOGRAPHIC DE-XTIANISATION OF GOA [ Subject: The demographic de-xtianisation of Goa [ From: "G.Subramaniam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 Per the MD.Srinivas demography book, In 1911, the xtian population of Goa was 55% and hindus were 45% By 1991, it was 30% xtian and 65% hindu So what happened The standard xtian syndrome of 'empowering women'. The xtians over-educated and careerised their women and cut back on fertility Remember Goa is a catholic place and catholicism opposes family planning this syndrome is even more rampant among protestants In the meantime, the more traditional hindus breeded their way to victory Goa now has a BJP CM G.S --- From: "Last Timer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Find messages by this author Date: 18 Dec 2004 12:12:44 -0800 Local: Sat, Dec 18 2004 12:12 pm Subject: Re: THE DEMOGRAPHIC DE-XTIANISATION OF GOA The standard xtian syndrome of 'empowering women' The xtians over-educated and careerised their women and cut back on fertility Makes as much sense as: the xtians in Goa eat the placenta of cow. Go hatya mahA pAtaka! Or shall we say 'Goa hatya mahA pAtaka!' habshi Dec 18 2004, 5:11 pm Total nonsense . Most of the Xtian goans emigrated to Africa, Portugal , UK, and in a land of about half a million that can make a huge difference Reply Bharatom Dec 18 2004, 7:25 pm I wish the same thing happened in Kerala as well - All Xtians must be forced to migrate to their lands like Europe and USA. Then only Kerala can really become a God's Own Country.
Re: [Goanet]A LIFE GONE IN LESS THAN A SECOND!
--- domnic fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In 5/10 of a second, the impact has built up to the > point that the drivers > feet are ripped out of his tightly laced shoes. The > brake pedal breaks off. > The car frame buckles in the middle. The drivers > head smashes into the > windshield as the rear wheels, still spinning, fall > back to the ground. > Further to my earlier posting, see http://motoring.racv.com.au/racvm/whichcar/bestbuysarticle.cfm?ID=86262BE2-9A36-44BE-BCC68143E1D79998 for "What Really Happens in a Crash?". Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re:flying clubs
[March 17] My point of view, precisely! The only other thing I would add is that if land based training was so essential why didnt they plan for it in Seabird/Yenkebe? Why only Dabolim? But we know what the reply to that will be: "No budgetary support; maybe in 10-15 years; runway there is too short; unsuitable terrain; blah blah blah". The safest assumption is that the Navy has absolutely no intention of moving training flights out of Dabolim. What to do?:)
[Goanet]FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)
--- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ --- Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, Friday Balcao the fortnightly discussion event to be held on 18th March will focus on the Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs), a consumer concern. Consumers organisations worldwide are campaigning to stop the spread of genetically modified organisms (GMOs). From as far and wide as Lebanon to Switzerland, Thailand to the UK, they are demanding that GM-free crops are protected, GM products are labelled, and international safety standards are followed. Consumers International (CI) member organisations campaigned on this issue in the past and it remains at the top of the consumer agenda. Public opinion polls show that consumers are concerned about GM foods because of potential risks to human health. GM technology involves transferring genes between unrelated species which is completely different from existing conventional breeding techniques and has yet to be proven safe. Other major concerns are increased control of the food chain by corporations, and misleading claims about solving food supply problems and about the benefits of GMOs to farmers. Consumers have a right to information, a right to choice and a right to safety and these rights need to be respected. There must be guarantees that conventional and organic foods survive and remain widely available. GM-free areas need to be established and secured and strict rules introduced to prevent contamination of GM-free crops. All foods containing or derived from GMOs be independently tested and subject to international safety guidelines as well as be clearly labelled. What impact will the GMOs have on consumers in India ? How can consumers ensure that foods containing or derived from GMOs are tested and labelled correctly ? What is the awareness among the supermarket owners and shoppers in Goa ? What is the awareness & response of foreign tourists in Goa to the issue ? What steps need to be taken to create awareness among different segments of consumers on the issue of GMOs ? The Balcao discussion will cover these questions and also evolve an agenda for action by citizens on the issue. Friday Balcao will be from 4pm to 6pm at the Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11 Liberty Apartments Feira Alta, Mapusa and is open to members of the public. Those citizens who would like to receive the regular invitation to Friday Balcao and a one page synopsis of the fortnightly session can subscribe for the same by sending Rs.100/- to cover printing and mailing costs. Interested citizens wanting more information on Friday Balcao can phone on 2252660 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy ===
Re: [Goanet]A LIFE GONE IN LESS THAN A SECOND!
--- domnic fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In 5/10 of a second, the impact has built up to the > point that the drivers > feet are ripped out of his tightly laced shoes. The > brake pedal breaks off. > The car frame buckles in the middle. The drivers > head smashes into the > windshield as the rear wheels, still spinning, fall > back to the ground. > That is why you (and all passengers) must wear 3-point seat belts whilst in motion in a car - to prevent you (and the passengers) from flying forward. Modern cars are not only designed with 'crumple' zones to absorb the impact, but are also fitted with airbags - as many as eight of them (thus making them a bit more expensive to buy and to insure). However, all the safety features in a vehicle are useless if the driver is not aware of what he/she is doing and of what is happening around him/her every minute he/she is driving. Hence, remember to glance at the speedometer and into the rear-view mirrors (all three of them if on a multi-lane highway) every so often - it becomes a habit after a while. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Mandovi bridges to be closed on Saturday, Sunday
- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- -- Mandovi bridges to be closed on Saturday, Sunday -- The District Magistrate, North Goa District issued an order that the new and old Manodvi bridges will remain closed for all types of vehicular traffic on below mentioned dates and timings. The new Mandovi bridge will be closed on March 19, 2005 between 7am to 8am while old Mandovi bridge will remain closed on March 20, 2005 from 7am to 8am. During the closure of the new Mandovi bridge, light vehicular traffic shall be allowed on old Mandovi bridge (both ways). During the closure of old Mandovi bridge, vehicular traffic shall be allowed on new bridge. HERALD 16/3/05 page 4 - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy ===
[Goanet]Further information on Rev. Fr. Prasad Gonsalves
Dear Friends, Some more details on the unfortunate episode of Rev. Fr. Prasad Gonsalves. There is no way we can let go this unfortunate humiliation. Need for a stronger campaign for the withdrawal of the case against Fr. Prasad. The authorities can't treat him as a criminal and harass him in the discharge of his duties for the benefit of the marginalised sections of society. We need to protest and shout from the roof top. This episode is one more attempt made by fascist forces to discourage the others who are working for the deprived sections of society. In our last communication to you we had provided you fax / email ids of the Government officials. Please send a reminder to them that they have to act fast. The Bombay Catholic Sabha has its executive meeting on March 18 and will decide its future course of action. Best Regards, Dolphy D'souza National Vice-President- All India Catholic Union, President - The Bombay Catholic Sabha Tel: 26662585 / Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Goanet]Re:flying clubs
--- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Anyone who equates advanced training on high > performance fighter > aircraft like the Seaharrier or MIG29K ,to an > activity of a *flying > club* needs to have his head examined. Dabolim was conceived as and built for civilian use. Dabolim was apparently handed over to the Indian Navy post Dec-1961 as 'caretakers' by the then Candeth Govt. Now the Navy effectively 'own' it to the detriment of civilian flights. Sure the naval pilots need training. Initial training on trainer aircraft can be carried out on land-based trainer aircraft, but aren't Sea Harrier and MiG29 aircraft carrier-based? Aren't naval pilots supposed to learn to tackle take-offs and landings from the moving and rolling platforms of aircraft carriers with their associated catapults and arrestors rather than from fixed-point steady land-based air-strips where such additional equipement is not necessary? Why land-based 'stations'? And how many pilots are they eternally training for the few aircraft carriers that India possesses? Do they really require most of every daylight hours for their training? Do they practice night-time flying? In my point of view, as I am sure it from Philip's as well, this 'extravagance' of using advanced aircraft on land-based stations does seem rather like an elite 'flying club'. It serves no purpose other than practicing formation-flying (if at all) and dive-bombing, which could have been carried out at sea as well. Practice at sea would additionally train the pilots in the fine art of locating and landing on a moving platform, thus using aircraft for the purpose they were designed to. > Friends,> this is not an extra > curricular fun passtime. It is designed to meet the > threats of the > future so that in time of need, we have highly > proficient pilots to > carry out the multi role tasks of establishing air > superiority, land > and sea strike, and any other tasks required for the > defence of this > nation. Precisely. In times of need, the naval pilots would fly straight from an aircraft carrier (not from a land-based station such as Goa) to their intended target. It is the *Air Force* that normally takes off from land-based aircraft, and then again, they are of different design and meant for purposes probably different from the Navy's. > Who are the vested interests, you mention? Over to you, Philip. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]More on email-for-all and footballs
--- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to build up a system where people > working in the towns > could check the email accounts of those who don't > have speedy online > access in the villages? This could work in cases > where the email accounts > are used less for personal communication and more > for utilitarian reasons. > That shouldn't be too difficult. One could call it the Goa internet whitepages or something like that. See the Aussie whitepages at http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.jhtml for an idea of how it could be done. A database + some web-based enquiry & maintenance modules shouldn't be too hard for a good programmer... Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Cong sweeps Zila Panchayat polls
Cong sweeps Zila Panchayat polls http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=Cong+sweeps+Zila+Panchay at+polls&id=70093 Thursday, March 17, 2005 (Panaji): For the Goa state Congress, it is a time to celebrate. The results of the recently held Zila Panchayat elections has come as a shot in the arm for the party, after the decision to impose President's rule in the state. Congress candidates swept the Zila Panchyat elections, winning 30 of the 50 seats in North and South Goa. Setback for BJP The BJP on the other hand suffered a major setback after it won just 11 seats with North Goa witnessing the party's worst performance. BJP candidates won just nine seats in the 30-member body. But party leaders kept up a brave front. "It is not a defeat for us neither is it a setback for our performance. The candidates supported by us have won in multiple numbers," said Rajendra Arlekar. List of claimants But as is usually the case in Goa, the Congress now has to deal with the task of placating the long list of claimants for the main post of chairperson. Four candidates have already staked claim for the post of Chairperson in south Goa. In North Goa, Jeniffer Monserrate is likely to be called upon to head the Zila Panchayat. Forwarded by Eddie Verdes
Re: [Goanet]TRAFFIC SAFETY WEEK!
--- domnic fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Every year, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia devotes one > week for the Traffic > Safety. > - Use turn signals to indicate lane changes. As far as Goa (and the neighbouring states) is concerned, turn-signalling is weird. I did get overtaken from the right when I was about to turn right (and signalled right well before hand) in the mistaken assumption on part of the other driver that I wanted him to overtake. Also, when I did try and overtake someone, I slowed down immediately when the other dirver indicated right with his turn signals - later I was told that he meant that it was safe for me to overtake. So what is the correct procedure, in Goa, to indicate that one wants to turn right? Unless these idiosyncrasies get corrected at the teaching stage, I suppose it is each one to his own as far as turning is concerned. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com
