Re: [Goanet] Halleluia, will miracles never cease
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the contra side, I have many emails too, from silent lurkers who ask - why are we entertaining Mario Goveia. I have decided in the best interests of keeping out garbage, I shall not interact with Mr. Goveia. Mario replies: Halleluia! God be praised! Now cyberspace will be freed up from Gabe's relentless misrepresentations. However, watch how long this lasts. A few hours, I'm guessing.
Re: [Goanet]Re: In America, the crows stick to the garbage
Cornel, Thanks. Sorry for the occasional heat instead of light. I'm a partisan pro-American Indian American, not a blind fool. I like this country and what it stands for, on balance. Every country can be improved, just some more than others. --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mario, I have noted your disagreements with facets of the administration in the USA. They are more than I expected! Well done! Cornel - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 4:46 PM Cornel, Rebutting the falsehoods of anti-Americans is the easiest thing I have ever done in my life. It may surprise you to learn that my private emails indicate that those who agree with me feel I am quite capable of taking on the small army of Goan anti-Americans all by myself, just to make it fair. It would be a verbal massacre if they all joined in.
[Goanet]Transport linkages (Rediff)
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?hpFlag=Ychklogin=Nau tono=191479leftnm=lmnu5lselect=0leftindx=5 Transport linkages Business Standard / New Delhi June 14, 2005 In August 2004, the Prime Minister set up a high-powered committee on infrastructure, which was supposed to cut through the tangles of inter-ministerial co-ordination and deliver an action plan. Eight months later, many people are wondering just what happened to this high-profile initiative. The mid-term appraisal of the ongoing Tenth Plan did, indeed, say several things that the government ought to be saying. But these assessments are far from translating into a concrete set of proposals for policy and administrative change. Any hopes that the UPA government may have kindled on the infrastructure front are fast receding. This is all the more frustrating, given that most of the problems have a reasonable number of relatively non-controversial solutions. There is, unquestionably, a great deal of resistance to and, therefore, difficulty in pushing through radical organisational change. But then, Messrs. Ahluwalia, Chidambaram, and Singh are no strangers to radical reform in the face of a crisis; the infrastructure constraints that the economy is working within are rapidly approaching crisis proportions. While the running aground of power sector reforms tends to dominate the limelight, basic organisational and co-ordination problems hinder progress in other sectors as well. Transport is an important case in point. Whether at the level of transport systems within a city or from a national perspective, the way in which the sector is run suffers from some obvious problems, which significantly reduce the overall productivity of the system. Take the metro rail system in Delhi, for instance. A sophisticated, hi-tech system is being rolled out more or less on schedule and is attracting more and more users. However, its overall benefit to the city, which is the justification for the local government committing such large amounts of money to it, depends on how effectively other modes of transport adjust to the fixed network it has established. While some bus routes are apparently being changed to ferry commuters to metro stations, the stark reality is that the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation and the Delhi Transport Corporation (which operates many of the buses plying on Delhi roads) continue to operate as independent entities. An integrated transport authority, whose objective is to maximise the efficiency of the system as a whole, would have been a valuable institutional innovation as the metro was being set up. Unfortunately, the idea never gained any momentum. **At the national level, we have three ministries-railways, surface transport, and civil aviation-each pursuing its agenda with an apparent lack of concern for what the others are doing.** If the issue is a high-speed rail freight corridor along the golden quadrilateral? How does this impact on the economics of the national highway programme along the same quadrilateral? And if the proposal is free entry for low-cost airlines, how does this affect the railways' calculations on revenues from upper-class services, which are a cash cow for them? None of these critical inter-linkages ever seems to get the attention it deserves.** It is time the inter-dependence between different modes of transportation was given due recognition and the policy formulation and implementation processes restructured to reflect this.** --- Remember what was posted recently about serious transportation deficiencies at Dabolim, Vasco and Mormugao in connection with the talk of SEZ in Goa? The above idea of linked development seems highly applicable. _ Top-of-the-line jobs!. http://creative.mediaturf.net/creatives/timesjobs/hotmail_TOL.htm Log on to timesjobs.com and apply TODAY!
Re:[Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage
Peter DSouza wrote: I also believe that most so-called liberals are actually very closed-minded, consequently I spare myself the futility. Santosh Helekar responded: Do you mean to say that the so-called liberals are actually very conservative, and are not open to other points of view? PD'S: No. I did not say that they are very conservative. Conservatives are recovering liberals (most of us anyway). SH: Who according to you is an America-hater? One who disagrees with the policies of the present U.S. administration? PD'S: People who are opposed to the United States' actions when it acts as a force for good in this world, people who casually equate Guantanamo Bay with the gulag and Nazi concentration camps, people who liken George Bush to Hitler, popular entertainers who criticise America on foreign soil, people weren't happy when Saddam Hussein was captured (many of whom were actually sad, for fear that it would translate to election losses for the Democrat party), people who weren't willing to admit that the Iraqi elections were one of the greatest celebrations of freedom in Mid-East history, people who make lame threats about migrating to Canada if a conservative president is elected ...they're the common culprits. In regard to people who disagree with the present administration: Personally, I disagree with the present administration on many issues, but I love this country dearly. I do not instinctively support the the present administration, but I do share its conservative ideology. There are others who disagree with the present administration instinctively, I've identified some of them above. SH: Who according to you is opposed to a free Iraq? One who disagrees with the policies of the present U.S. administration? PD'S: This is not according to me, sorry. Those opposed to a free Iraq were very vocal in opposing America and Britain's desire for a regime change in Iraq. Those who supported a free Iraq choose to put their money where their mouth is by sending troops and other help in the effort to toople Saddam and his evil Baathist regime. SH: Does an America-lover have to be a hater of the French? PD'S: Non, monsieur. You can hate everyone and still be truly French, n'est-ce pas? Peace, Peter
Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck - where is Santosh when we need him
Mario, I heard Zubin Mehta also wants to be a Goan. What qualifications are reqd to be a Goan? Carlos -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck - where is Santosh when we need him Santosh, Would you please confirm or debunk these urban legends, please, before they get out of hand. Now Englebert who does not even acknowledge he is an Indian, as far as I know, and used to be an Anglo-Indian from Chennai, has become a Goan from Cuncolim.
Re: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??
Vivian, Just watch. Willy will be the next CM of Goa and he will be a good one. Carlos -Original Message- From: Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ?? Maybe now that he has hit bottom, he will re-infvent himself and become a full-fledged Congressmen, or if spurned will then become a full fledged saffronite ? It is obvious that this person is not committed to any ideology or principles. Chameleons ! Lets see what unfolds in the next few days or hours.
Re: [Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage
Peter, The logs also reveal that Chris Vaz made some rather racist comments on the Arab community in Michigan. I'm sure you dont agree with those comments of his! Likewise, your bunching of groups into two political categories, viz, liberals and conservatives is overly simplistic. There are many of us who would like to see social security, welfare, medicaid and other excuses for excessive government spending abolished. We would like to see unfettered free trade and an end of immigration quotas to allow the import of unlimited labor from abroad to allow industry to reduce its labor costs and to use the best the world has to offer. Coversely, we do not want a big, intrusive government imposing its moral values on us or telling us how to behave or think. While the conservative crowd has generally been pro business (although this is not a hard and fast rule, specially wrt open immigration), it has an increasing component of the intolerant religious right. Marlon --- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cornel, If you look though the logs circa October last year, you will find Mario agreeing with many of my postings, those of Chris Vaz and the postings of a few others as well. There are a number of us on this list, general lurkers, whose views are well represented by Mario. I personally have less energy to defend America than Mario does (God bless him) and I also believe that most so-called liberals are actually very closed-minded, consequently I spare myself the futility.
[Goanet]Life after...
After actor-politician Sunil Dutt died of a heart-attack, the media in India focussed on how heart attacks are rising day after stressful day. In a full-page 'big story' by Swati Ali (Indian Express, June 7, 2005, Mumbai edition Page 2), the writer profiles how victims of heart attacks coped with the situation. And fought back. One of those mentioned from Mumbai is a lady with a rather Goan-sounding name -- Peggy Fernandes, 73. Okay, she could be Mangalorean or East Indian. Says the write-up about the homemaker: Fernandes said she's already forgotten when she had her heart attack. 'I think it was sometime in 2001,' she said, thoughful. No, there's nothing wrong with her memory. 'It's just that it did not affect me that much,' she said. 'Life continues.' The article adds: Stress was the bugbear, Fernandes pointed out. She would travel every day from her home in Ambernath to Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, a journey of 80 minutes each way, to her work as a clerk in the LIC office. Since she could not afford a taxi, she then walked 20 minutes from the station to the office and back. All this after getting up at 5 am and cooking for the entire joint family. With the changes in lifestyle, growing affluence (for some) and increasing stress, I guess the Goan community too must be facing growing heart concerns. Beyond the anecdotal, is anyone aware of studies conducted on this aspect? Just curious... .. Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490| http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..
Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck...
On 15/06/05, eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alfred, Englebert - now 63, born Cecil Darcy i think, aunt a nun who survives in Goa; the Wall Street Journal placed him at 600 million dollars, all i hear is shud up when i sing in the shower ! eric. RESPONSE: How about Gerry Dorsey: http://www.45-rpm.org.uk/dire/engelberth.htm # Real Name: Arnold George Dorsey # Birth Date: 2nd May 1936 # Birth Place: Madras, India Cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
Re: [Goanet](no subject)
On 15/06/05, Cynthia Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good day Today before you think of saying an unkind word Think of someone who cant speak.. And while you are at it give love to someone today Love someone with what you do and the words you say Love is not meant to be kept locked inside of us and hidden So give it away Give Love to someone today! Cynthia RESPONSE: Viva Cynthia, I am trying to give my love away, no takers just yet! Cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
[Goanet]Goa, Home, Heaven, Heart and de Troott
From: George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Melinda and Cecil: While it is no secret that heaven is really Goa, there is another angle to the story. .. Even more confusion here as there was no clarity on when the Navy were allowing flights in and out. So while it is true that people clamour to make it to heaven (Goa), it is not true they all want to stay there. So now you know the truth === Let me get the Indian Navy out of this discussion here first. They have NO obligation to allow any flights in or out of Dabolim. They have captured the place, and it belongs to them. That they are allowing a few flights in and out ...is merciful. Now ... Is George saying that Goa is Heaven ...or Heaven is Goa For some months (with or without electricity) and all months with mosquitos it surely feels like Purgatory or the other place which is supposed to be hot like hell. BUT ...eventually, Home is where you make one. For many it is indeed Goa. They don't want to leave it never mind those of us who come and go and do not feel like staying. Of course the best of the lot are those who spend their winters in Goa and summers elsewhere. AND why not? If you can afford to do that - Not a bad idea at all Now that might be another truth jc _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re:[Goanet] Some pure baloney in American revisionist history
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What facts are disputed? How does one know who is right? What is the nature of the bias? Why would European historians be biased against their own kind? Mario replies: You are free to believe any version you please, just don't try to ram it down my throat when there are other competing versions that I choose to believe which make more sense to me. Your question about European historians being biased against their own kind is just plain silly. Europeans are not monolithic, nor do they all have similar opinions. Most of the early European settlers in North America were running away from religious persecution and the established order in their home countries. Talk about bias. There are some Europeans who are still trying to claim that Hitler's holocaust never happened. Santosh writes: I think the term holocaust was used before for sacrificial immolation. I don't see any reason not to apply it to any form of mass killing, especially of defenseless people. Mario replies: As I have said above, you can apply any word you want. If you think the European settlers in North America committed sacrificial immolation or its equivalent its up to you. I just don't believe there was any systematic mass killing of defenseless people by the European settlers in North America, any more than than there was mass killing of defenseless people in any historical expansionist period, going back to Roman and Greek and Ottoman times, and even the Huns and Barbarians. Might was right in those periods. People who resisted got killed. Those who didn't mostly survived. Santosh writes: I dont understand why any of the European or American historians would be biased in favor of Genghis Khan or Attila the Hun. What point is being made here? Mario replies: The point is that there were expansionist periods throughout history. The Roman Empire and Alexander ring a bell? Obviously those who were conquered were treated unfairly. What I am objecting to is revisionism being applied to the settling of North America, with incendiary terms like genocide and holocaust and incredible claims of small pox infected blankets. Santosh writes: It should be noted that those who have already had small pox develop life-long immunity against it, and that Amerindians did not have any immunity against it at least in part because of a complete lack of exposure. Mario replies: For this to make sense all the Europeans would have to have had small pox. As I said before, believe such stuff if you want to. I just think that such claims are pure baloney.
Re: [Goanet] Third-party innuendo
Cornel, I'm sorry, my mistake. Mea maxima culpa. Let me review where I went wrong. What you actually said was, P.S. You do have the intellectual in you on some counts I must admit e.g. caste. However, it is generally accepted that the role of the intellectual is to be a critic of his society. Yet I have not noticed a single iota of this ingredient in you re. your chosen homeland of the USA. Are we missing something? I get it, you first nominated me as an intellectual - perish the thought - on the issue of caste where we agree, then tried to either insult me or dilute my perceived intellect by alleging that I was not a critic of my society. First of all, an anti-American Goan trying to insult me in such puerile fashion is like being called ugly by a frog. Secondly, I guess I have had little time to criticize my society because I spend so much time defending it against the bogus allegations and falsehoods levied by the small army of determined anti-American Goans, many of whom who were denied residency here, and none of whom meet your criterion above for being an intellectual, which makes it easy for me to deal with all of them singlehandedly. However, since you asked, I subsequently decided to humor you by posting a multi-part critique of my society, and I now demand you restore my title of intellectual, which I will then reject. Notice that I am not asking any of you anti-American Goans to critique your societies, for obvious reasons. --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, Please illustrate to me where I have claimed that I am an intellectual. Cornel
[Goanet]Re: In America, the crows stick to the garbage
Hi Peter, Many thanks for sharing your views on America re the ongoing debate on Goanet. Cornel.
[Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??
Maybe now that he has hit bottom, he will re-infvent himself and become a full-fledged Congressmen, or if spurned will then become a full fledged saffronite ? It is obvious that this person is not committed to any ideology or principles. Chameleons ! Lets see what unfolds in the next few days or hours.
Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck - where is Santosh when we need him
Santosh, Would you please confirm or debunk these urban legends, please, before they get out of hand. Now Englebert who does not even acknowledge he is an Indian, as far as I know, and used to be an Anglo-Indian from Chennai, has become a Goan from Cuncolim. --- eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alfred, Englebert - now 63, born Cecil Darcy i think, aunt a nun who survives in Goa; the Wall Street Journal placed him at 600 million dollars, all i hear is shud up when i sing in the shower ! eric. --- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told, on good authority, that Engelbert Humperdinck, unlike Cliff Richard, Tony Brent, (who are also India-born, Bombay and Hubli resp.) also is an ethnic Goan, AVC, to the best of my belief, Cuncolim. Perhaps one Goan parent. Would be interesting if it could be ascertained. I wanted to ask him personally, during his tour of Sweden, last year, but had to be out of the country just then. Alfred From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck... Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:37:43 +0100 On 14/06/05, Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the other Indian-born star to make it big in the West was the late Freddy Mercury (who was originally a Parsi named Balsara). FN, Freddy Mercury was born in Zanzibar. Mervyn3.0 RESPONSE: Cliff Richard, who was Harry Webb was born in India too and is happy with his Indian roots! _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Can we dump the legend, and keep the message
Santosh, While no one should support spreading something that is false (there goes Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny), would it be possible for you to use your impressive ability to separate fact from fiction to not just debunk urban legends that may conclude with a socially redeeming message or suggestion, but to find for us alternative truthful anecdotes that may support the same message, realizing that this may not be possible in each and every case. --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't something to get alarmed about and I honestly don't know if anyone breathed a sigh of relief after they saw your warning about this scam. As they say on North Broad Street (home of Russell Conwell's Temple University) Yo, chill! Peter, Do you think there is any harm in pointing out that this inspiring story is an urban legend? Do you think we should let people forward fake chain letters to public forums without being corrected? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]NEWS: Project to Prepare Dictionary of South Asian Christianity Underway
Project to Prepare Dictionary of South Asian Christianity Underway By SAR NEWS GUWAHATI, Assam (SAR News) -- In an effort to document and preserve Christianity's critical role in South Asian history, a major project is underway to prepare a Dictionary on South Asian Christianity (DSAC). The project is headed by Chennai-based Dr. Roger E. Hedlund. The dictionary is a major international ecumenical venture with scholarly contributions by Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Pentecostal churches and independent scholars with expertise in various disciplines. Project director and chief editor of the 1000-page dictionary Dr. Hedlund said it is an instrument to support, preserve, and enhance Christianity's integral role in nation building and socio-economic development throughout the region. Rising religious extremism has led to an alarming disregard of the historical impact of Christianity on the history and culture of South Asia. Human rights are violated, and the historic presence and contributions of Christians are deliberately ignored. Against this trend, the dictionary will present a witness and defense of the gospel. To be published in 2006, the dictionary is expected to provide a basic reference tool for Christian laity, students, scholars, historians, researchers, church leaders, pastors and missionaries. The research project is guided by a panel of international consultants, heads of churches, and an editorial board consisting of seven South Asian scholars. Regional and country editors as well as leading scholars from the region are already working to compile the dictionary. The project team is organizing a series of writers' workshops in different parts of South Asia to prepare the dictionary. Dr. Hedlund said the dictionary is aimed at contributing towards the growth and preservation of the Christian Faith in South Asia at a time of tension in the region springing from militant religious fundamentalism. Persecution is on the rise. Hindu nationalism in India, Buddhist resurgence in Sri Lanka, and Islamic fundamentalism in Pakistan are on the increase, he said. During this time of strident religious rhetoric and growing religious nationalism in South Asia, Dr Hedlund this project is critical to the quest for a clear and confident Christian identity and witness in South Asia. END
Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck...
Hello Alfred, Englebert - now 63, born Cecil Darcy i think, aunt a nun who survives in Goa; the Wall Street Journal placed him at 600 million dollars, all i hear is shud up when i sing in the shower ! eric. --- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told, on good authority, that Engelbert Humperdinck, unlike Cliff Richard, Tony Brent, (who are also India-born, Bombay and Hubli resp.) also is an ethnic Goan, AVC, to the best of my belief, Cuncolim. Perhaps one Goan parent. Would be interesting if it could be ascertained. I wanted to ask him personally, during his tour of Sweden, last year, but had to be out of the country just then. Alfred From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck... Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:37:43 +0100 On 14/06/05, Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the other Indian-born star to make it big in the West was the late Freddy Mercury (who was originally a Parsi named Balsara). FN, Freddy Mercury was born in Zanzibar. Mervyn3.0 RESPONSE: Cliff Richard, who was Harry Webb was born in India too and is happy with his Indian roots! _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Belgaum, water and the water table
The Hindu reported on its issue of June 11, 2005 (Mangalore edition, Page 3) about the drastic fall in the availability of groundwater in Goa's neighbouring district of Belgaum. Says the report by Vijay Kumar Patil: Between 1991-92 and 2004-05, the water table across the (Belgaum) district declined by 5 to 300 metres, thanks to the over-exploitation of water for irrigating crops such as sugarcane. Belgaum has been suffering drought for the past four years. Borewells do not yield water even at a depth of 700 feet. In many areas, open wells yield water only at a depth of 26 metres, says the report. Even if they yield water, they go dry in summer. Would it be right to say that while the problem may be also serious in Goa, we simply lack the kind of detailed statistics that Belgaum is coming out with? FN .. Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490| http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..
[Goanet](no subject)
Good day Today before you think of saying an unkind word Think of someone who cant speak Before you complain about the taste of your food Think of someone who has nothing to eat Before you complain about your husband or wife Think of someone who's crying out to God for a companion Today before you complain about life Think of someone who went too early to heaven Before you complain about your children Think of someone who desires children but they're barren Before you argue about your dirty house someone didn't clean or sweep Think of the people who are living in the streets Before whining about the distance you drive Think of someone who walks the same distance with their feet and when you are tired and complain about your job Think of the unemployed, the disabled and those who wished they had your job But before you think of pointing the finger or condemning another Remember that not one of us are without sin and we all answer to one maker And when depressing thoughts seem to get you down Put a smile on your face and thank God you're alive and still around Life is a gift Live it... Enjoy it... Celebrate it... And fulfill it. And while you are at it give love to someone today Love someone with what you do and the words you say Love is not meant to be kept locked inside of us and hidden So give it away Give Love to someone today! Cynthia _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Jesuits, film, Kolkata...
SITEWATCH: http://chitrabani.com/ Chitrabani is the social communication centre instituted by the Jesuits of Calcutta, primarily as an extension of St. Xavier's College, Kolkata. The involvement of the Jesuits and its college in the mass media is indeed the logical extension of a long involvement in education. The objective of Chitrabani is to spread a mass media culture that helps people to integrate harmoniously the communication media into their cultural lives. Thus, people will benefit from the media Address Chitrabani 76, Rafi Ahmed Kidwai Road Kolkata 700 016 Phone (91-33) 2244-0108 Fax (91-33) 2246-1507 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Freelance Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks fred at bytesforall.org http://www.bytesforall.org
Re: [Goanet]CLAUDIA ringtone ?
Hi Please send me the ringtone of Moga zalem tem zaum etc. Thanks a lot. Richard Cabral - Original Message - From: JOHN KENNEDY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: RE: [Goanet]CLAUDIA ringtone ? Please send me this ringtone My mobile is with international dialing code 00971 50 4961524 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoeGoaUk Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:14 PM To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]CLAUDIA ringtone ? Diu you get this ringtone? I am also looking for it (if there is one). So, I have the foll two: Amche Noxib: MOGA ZALEM TEM ZAUM, TUM MOZO GHODDAcHO PANV TUM MAKA SODDXI TOR JIU DITOLOM HANV.. Antonette ? RAVONK ETA MOJEAN JEINSATONA DOLLE BOND KORUN UGDDI NASTONA PUNN MATUI RAVONK ZAINA TUKA POI NASTONA UGDDAS ETA UT'TAM BHOSTANA I CAN SEND THE ABV RINGTONS TO ANY ONE ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD-FOR FREE (NORMALLY Rs.5) jUST GIVE ME YOUR MOBILE No. HURRY UP (REQUEST WITHIN 4 DAYS ONLY) LOVE GOA LOVE KONKANI LOVE ME Wed Jun 8 02:10:40 2005 Can you please help me to get CLAUDIA RING TONE Thanking you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]M. Boyer's Tiatr 'Soumsar Sudorlo' now v/s then
This M. Boyer's Tiatr was super hit about 27 years ago. I remember, i watch this Tiatr with my Mom at night (Margao-Rajendra Prasad Stadium). There were special buses at night just for Tiatr from diff. villages. That time top Tiatr were held mostly in cities like Margao, Vasco etc . Margao near old Foot ball ground at night 10.30pm Ticket was Rs.5. Now, the same tiatrs are held during day time 10.30am/3.30pm in Gomant Vidya niketan Ticket now Rs.60. Many Tiatrist who acted at that time are now either dead or sick. Popular amongst them are Alfred Rose, Greg, Jacint vaz, Mary Vaz, Souza ferrao etc The songs/Kants of the Tiatr were so popular that it is still sung in wedding/picnic buses along with the mandos. Popular amongst them ... ZOTI MAGON CHEDDEANI, NOUREANI ANI TANCHEA GHORCHEANI KONN FELIZ ZAUNK NAM ZOTICHEA DUDVANI.. DUKAM MAT GOLLOILIM, GORIB CHEDDVAMNIM. This was beautifully sung by Antonette. (The same tragedy role is now played by Roshan (87%) Opening intro was beautifully sung by Alfred Rose. it goes like this... HANV ZAUM ASA ALFRED ROSE GAVAN HANV ALDONCHO.. HO ZAUM ASA JACINT VAZ GAVAN TO NEURENCHO? This was now sung by Anthony San (89%) M Boyer's Role as responsible brother to his 2 sisters is now played by Joe Rose (85%) Souza Ferrao role as female 'biatin' now played by C D Silva (87%). Jacint Vaz Role as 'soirikar' is now played by Ben Evangelisto (98%) He was really looking like Jacint Vaz with his mustach, changed hair style etc etc See photo That's all I remember.. Check some photos below where you will find others actors too like H Briton, Hortens, Fatima, Anil Kumar, Sabina etc etc. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joegoauk/album?.dir=6f44.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joegoauk/my_photos [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck...
I have been told, on good authority, that Engelbert Humperdinck, unlike Cliff Richard, Tony Brent, (who are also India-born, Bombay and Hubli resp.) also is an ethnic Goan, AVC, to the best of my belief, Cuncolim. Perhaps one Goan parent. Would be interesting if it could be ascertained. I wanted to ask him personally, during his tour of Sweden, last year, but had to be out of the country just then. Alfred From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck... Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:37:43 +0100 On 14/06/05, Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the other Indian-born star to make it big in the West was the late Freddy Mercury (who was originally a Parsi named Balsara). FN, Freddy Mercury was born in Zanzibar. Mervyn3.0 RESPONSE: Cliff Richard, who was Harry Webb was born in India too and is happy with his Indian roots! _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]Home is where the heart is
While I fully agree that Home is where the heart is, I'm getting a little fed-up with the sly sentimentality and the snide insinuations obviously aimed at those of us who have our primary homes elsewhere. Why would anyone who has a choice pick just one place to call home? This is 2005, and the world is a much smaller place than it used to be. I love Goa, bought property there recently, and visit every year to bask in the warmth of friends and family - all when the weather is still bearable. Then we head for more pleasant climes for the rest of the year. Anyone who finds a resemblance between heaven and Goa's stifling heat and humidity in summer, not to mention the height of the monsoon season, is either kidding themselves or has no other options. --- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cecil Pinto wrote: . I have decided that we are in fact better off here at home in Goa, India. There's no place like home. Melinda Powell wrote: Yet when it came to settling down, I chose to move from Mumbai to Goa and I absolutely love it here. Dear Melinda and Cecil: While it is no secret that heaven is really Goa, there is another angle to the story.
Re: [Goanet]Pl. identify this tiatrist (last one)
Hi Joe, I am sure most of us wilol know that the other one is the comedy king Jacinto Vaz. Wilson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: RE: [Goanet]Thermocol and mosquito menace
Hi Here are some helpful links to more information on the same. http://www.gobartimes.org/may2001/gtimes_cov3.htm www.mrcindia.org/MRC_profile/ alternate_strategy/EPSbeads.pdf library.filariasis.net/media/ pdf/journals/atmp/2002/atmp_2002_96_S2_97.pdf http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/maney/atmp/2002/0096/A00208s2/art00010 http://www.havant.gov.uk/havant-2746menupage=8 Joy, It's a joy to know that mosquito menace can be combated by confetti. Avelino Bastora/Kuwait __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/
[Goanet]With Goa Dairy Milk the Consumer continues to get cheated
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! - --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- --- Consumer rights --- Even as the Jago Grahak Jago campaign is actively involved in bringing about the much needed awareness of consumer rights, we the people of Goa, being literate, are cheated royally by many shopkeepers. Regardless to say, even the local provision store wala takes the literate customer for a royal ride. The Goa dairy one litre milk packet which states an MRP of Rs. 18.50 is sold by many provision shop owners at the cost of Rs. 20. I recently had an experience of the sort when I bought two litres of milk which was charged Rs. 40. As I scanned the packet to find out the date of packing of the milk contents in the packet, I was taken in for a rude shock to see the price, simply manipulated by the shop keeper. Even as I enquired with him the next day, he told me that he charged every body the same rate. I was astonished to see that people did not bother to check the rate on the packet and more stranger was the fact that those who knew did not bother to get it to the notice of the shop keeper, making the shop keeper think that he did a fare job. The question here is not about just one customer. It is high time we Goans come out and fight this injustice and teach such shop keepers a good lesson. It is hard earned money that we spend in this age of inflation. We should not let some prosper in the wrong way at the cost of the poor. Prinyanka Kamat, Margao in a letter to the Editor - Herald 10/6/05 page 6 - --- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goacan.org ---
Re: [Goanet]Re: Can Goanet become more of a think tank?
On 14/06/05, Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... 7. So the bottom line is: make the think tank idea more of a reality on goanet by thoughtfully sharing your views on information about (or applicable to) Goa! Let's try and shape conventional wisdom and maybe even policy plans... RESPONSE: One thing that has come out of Goanet - the ability to put people in touch with lost contacts. I have personally connected people on two occasions the last one was An old pal of Dolly D'Oliveira.
[Goanet]Konkani Ringtone-update
Total requests so far 16 (including from Lino DADA) 12 were sent last night. Those already got.. Please settle my bill asap. kindly draw cheque/Demand Draft for Rs.5 (Rupees five only) payable to joegoauk. If not 'recovery action' will be taken at your cost. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Computer teachers block bridge
Computer teachers block bridge PANJIM, JUNE 14 -- Two hundred and thirty one contract computer teachers courted arrest after blocking the new Patto bridge on Tuesday evening in protest against the governments attitude towards their grievances. They were released with a warning by the sub-divisional magistrate (SDM) and deputy collector Deepak Desai. The teachers under the banner of All Goa Computer Teachers Association (AGCTA) suddenly resorted to squatting on the road after a dissatisfied meeting with the Chief Minister Pratapsing Rane this evening. Speaking to Herald, Emma Cardozo, joint secretary of the AGCTA informed that the computer teachers had an appointment with the chief minister at the secretariat this evening to tell him their grievances. Cardozo informed that the CM told the teachers that whatever decision the governor had taken earlier will be adhered to. As mentioned by Cardozo, the CM told the teachers that the government will see that same teachers would be hired under the new contract. However, Cardozo stated that the AGCTA does not want teachers to be hired under the contract system. She said that the AGCTA wants regularisation of services as the teachers have faced many problems for the past nine years with the contract system. Following their brief interaction with the CM, the teachers blocked the new Patto bridge at around 5 in the evening as they were not happy with the response received from the CM. This caused much inconvenience to motorists and other commuters as traffic jams were witnessed on both the bridges. Police rushed in to control the agitation from going out of hand. As the police tried to cordon off the areas where the teachers had squatted on the bridge, two lady teachers were injured while PSI Pravin Pawar and one constable Vasudev Kesarkar also sustained injuries in the scuffle. The president of the Association Nilesh said both the Congress and BJP leaders had assured to regularise their services before the by-elections. It was not known why the teachers rushed to meet the chief minister when they had got a favourable response from the Education Minister Luizinho Faleiro. They were assured yesterday that in 3-4 days, a solution would be found. It is also suspected that the Association leaders were asked to resort to agitational approach by some political elements. Altogether 231 teachers courted arrest under section 151 of CrPC. Shouting slogans against the Congress government, the teachers were taken in seven vehicles to the police headquarters ground where the SDM Deepak Desai ordered their release. Altogether the Association has a membership of around 600 teachers. Around 200 teachers are working on contract basis for 6-7 years. The others were engaged by the private party hired by the Parrikar government three years ago for a period of two-and-a-half years. They were paid Rs 2500 per month by the BJP government, though it had verbally assured them to absorb them in service. Their contract expired in December 2004 and were given an extension of three months till March 2005. News reproduced from www.oheraldo.in by gasper crasto / Kuwait click http://gaspersworld.tripod.com/
Re: [Goanet]RE: Willie a casteist
On 14/06/05, Tom Carolina goanet@goanet.org wrote: Willie a casteist I read with interest the above statement. People who make such serious statements and character assinations have to research their statements prior to publishing on international level. I know Willie and his parents and the de Sousa families will never be casteist. Willie's two siblings one is a nun and the other a priest. In all my association with Willie I do not recall one statement where caste has been mentioned. Marriage by proposal is normally the subject where cast is prevalent. The de Sousa family does not follow this norm. Tom de Sousa in Hong kong RESPONSE: Your reply: ''HEART 2 HEART - Herald - June 12 BY ETHEL DA COSTA Spare us this Rogue' gallery Dear Dr Wile Willy, ..Where is the upper-caste etiquette you once boasted off?..'' I hope that counters your piece, how come no one has said that Ethel is wrong in her posting? Tom, do you yourself, have or had any caste aspirations in the past - your father was a Doctor in Aldona? -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet]Konkan Railway Monsooon Time Table Update 14 Jun 05
See: http://www.konkanrailway.com/website/press_2005/press_janshatabdi_140605.htm 14th June, 2005 PRESS NOTE JANSHATABDI EXP TO RUN ON 6 DAYS A WEEK DURING MONSOON 2051/2052 Dadar (T) - Madgaon - Dadar (T) Janshatabdi Express will run on 6 days a week on Konkan Railway route even during the monsoon period from 15th June to 31st October, 2005. The train will not run on Wednesday ex-Dadar (T) and on Thursday ex-Madgaon in the above period. -
Re: [Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage
On 14/06/05, Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cornel, If you look though the logs circa October last year, you will find Mario agreeing with many of my postings, those of Chris Vaz and the postings of a few others as well. There are a number of us on this list, general lurkers, whose views are well represented by Mario. I personally have less energy to defend America than Mario does (God bless him) and I also believe that most so-called liberals are actually very closed-minded, consequently I spare myself the futility. Mario also has more patience with people who are uncomfortable with facts and logic, so more power to him in his quest to educate America-haters, those opposed to a free Iraq, and the French. Sincerely, Peter D'Souza RESPONSE: Rather extreme to brand people as America-haters just because we don't subscribe to your present Government! Chill out man - please. On the contra side, I have many emails too, from silent lurkers who ask - why are we entertaining Mario Goveia. I have decided in the best interests of keeping out garbage, I shall not interact with Mr. Goveia. cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
[Goanet]RE: BCS CONDEMNS THE ATTACK ON US MISSIONARIES
While freedom to propagate religion under the Indian Constitution is confined only to citizens of India and does not extend to foreigners, investigations carried out by the Police revealed that the 4 US Nationals who were attacked had indulged in religious preaching. The four US nationals will be deported by the next available flight for violation of visa conditions, Additional Police Commissioner (Special Branch), Bipin Bihari, told PTI. The India Foreigners Act of 1946 clearly and strictly prohibits visitors in the country on tourist visas from engaging in religious preaching without first obtaining permission from the Ministry of Home Affairs. I hold no brief for those who resorted to violent actions against the 4 foreigners and believe that they must be caught and must pay for their crimes. However, let us not turn those 4 US Nationals into Saints either. They too committed a crime by overstaying their hospitality and violating visa conditions by being involved in religious activities. __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html
[Goanet]Goa football asociatio and aIFF football calendar for coming season
The annual general body meeting of Goa football association will be held on Sunday 17th July at clube Vasco da Gama near municipal garden panjim. Members are to submit their items for inclusion in the agenda latest by 25th June to GFA office panjim. Meanwhile GFa has released the football calendar for 2005- 2006. The season wil start with the third division league in aug Sept, and oct, the second and professional league in oct. The governors cup is slotted for 20th to 30th Oct, while second division will end in Oct and first division will start in Oct and end in Dec, while Professional league part will be held in Dec. In Jan 2006 the under 10 and under 12 festival will be held while the under 18 will start in the first month of the new calendar year. Part of the under 18 will continue in month of Feb. The under 14 and under 16 will be held in the month of April and may. It may be recalled here that the 2005-2206 under 14 and under 16 tournaments have already being held in the previous year of 2004-2005 in the month of April. The state under 16 camp will be held in July and august and the under 19 women's camp in Sept. the national would be held in the Sept. The Federation cup would be held between 20th Oct to 2nd Nov and the under 19 women national championship in Oct. The Santosh trophy camp will start in Nov .The Santosh trophy would he held in Nov and in Dec the under 14 camp will kick off. In Dec the third division national football league would be conducted. In jan the much awaited national football league would be held and would continue in the month of Feb and march while the womens under 19 nationals will also be held in jan. The AIFF would also conducted the under 14 festival in Jan and the under 19 national football league. In Feb The under 21 camp will start in March with nationals slated for April. The under 17 , 18 would start in April and under 21 would continue in April. The Santosh trophy camp for the May nationals would start in april while the under 17 and under 18 camps would wind up in May. The second division National football league will be action in Feb and the under 19 NFL continuing in Feb. The second division would continue in the month of March and april, while the under 21 nationals would he held in April and again the Santosh trophy in may2006. Thus for the season will have two santosh trophy nationals. Last year 2004- 2005 season the national Santosh trophy championship could not be held. MeanwhileThe rules regarding players on loan have under gone a change with AIFF coming up with a set of procedures for registration of players on loan. A club can loan a maximum of three players during a season Also a club can take a maximum of four players on loan during the season - two from within the state and two outside the state. Players cannot be given on loan after 28th Feb The loan period cannot expire before the end of the season. A player cannot be taken on loan from a club in a higher division to a club in a lower division. A player taken on loan cannot be transferred to a third club without the permission of the original club and of the player. In the case of a loan between clubs of two states an inter state registration transfer certificate is to be issued , both when loaning the player and when taking back the player. Also the reacquisition of amateur status has been specified by all India football federation. A nonon amateur player cannot acquire an amateur status before a period of 90 days from the day he competed in his last match with the club.
[Goanet]Dr. WILFRED D'SOUZA without PORTFOLIOS ?
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=72649 Outside support: NCP move leaves D'Souza stunned RAJU NAYAK Posted online: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 PANAJI, JUNE 14, 2005: The NCP high command has decided not to participate in the Congress-led government in Goa and will instead support it from outside. The decision has upset its state chief Dr Wilfred D'Souza who is Deputy Chief Minister in the Pratapsinh Rane cabinet and also holds the plum Tourism and Environment portfolios. D'Souza, who will have to give up his plum portfolios, feigned ignorance about the NCP move.We don't know the decision of the high command, his aide said. The Deputy Chief Minister last week threatened to withdraw NCP support to the Rane government after his party colleague Mickey Pacheco failed to win a ministerial berth. Aware that the Rane government survives on a slim majority, D'Souza began to sound out the BJP on forming an alternative government. This prompted the NCP to rush two observers from Delhi to pacify D'Souza and declare that the party would not pull out of the government. But D'Souza may yet spring a surprise now that he is without a portfolio. The NCP decision to provide only outside support comes when Rane had reportedly assured Pacheco he would be made sports minister after awarding only two portfolios among his 10-member team. Rane discussed Pacheco's induction with legislature party members and his cabinet colleagues before conveying the decision to the high command. Today's NCP decision took even the Goa Congress leadership by surprise. (Indian Express) www.goa-world.com
[Goanet]Re: Can Goanet become more of a think tank?
It all depends what you, its members, want to make of it. Goanet is an umbrella, and there's a lot of space under that umbrella (regardless what some of our critics keep complaining about). Some interesting initiatives have come about from Goanet (Internet node in Goa, computers project, annual reunions, inspiring of many other Goa-related mailing list, building up a whole new set of voices from Goa and the diaspora, getting people together etc). Now, it's up to everyone to take the idea forward. In many cases, we may not even be aware of the role of Goanet, because a lot of communication goes on off-list, following-up on posts that originated on networks like these. As far as the think-tank plan goes, it is an interesting one. My personal view -- not Goanet Admin's -- is that a network like this could help crystalise the plan for a think-tank (many think tanks, in fact, why just one?) I'm not very sure a cyber entity can play the role of actually forming one. Or is best placed to attempt this. The acute lack of forward-thinking in Goa is a very strong reality. Local newspapers, it is my perennial regret (including when I was directly associated with them) fail to devote space and resources to build up suitable ideas for the future. They either think they are Goa editions of national papers (with the focus on the rest of India), or are sometimes caught up in their own rivalries and sensational approaches, that they aren't doing a job they should be. A few people whom one has exchanged notes with do agree that Goa could benefit from having its own think tanks. We also need research organisations, that will put issues affecting the state and her people squarely on the agenda. (Again, the press is hardly playing its role here.) Resources seem to be available. So is the talent. What's missing is the magic to bring everything together. Maybe someone reading this will have the vision and etermination more than the rest of us, to make something happen! FN Its good to get a goanet perspective (personal) on the suggestion. Some preliminary reactions to keep the discussion going: 1. I view goanet as a platform for the expression of a variety of views. Note that a platform does not preclude the idea of a shelter such as an umbrella. It also inherently conveys the important idea of a great deal of space being available. 2. Its interesting to hear about some of the initiatives that have got their impetus from goanet. So goanet does seem to have some impact. What we need is more evidence like the computer project, internet nodes etc that things which were talked about on goanet became a reality some months or even years down the line. 3. Yes, there does seem to be a secondary forum of personal postings besides the ones which appear on goanet proper. I personally do not encourage this mainly because of space and time constraints. But it is still necessary to somehow gauge the impact of goanet (more on this below). 4. I agree that goanet may not be able to actually establish a think tank and maybe there should even be several of them rather than just one. What I was suggesting is that it function practically like one in some essential respects e.g. by providing far sighted views (not exclusively but to a significant extent). In this way it can crystalise or catalyse the plan for full fledged think tanks in the real world. 5. I also feel that there is a real gap out there about Goa-related thought and plans. But my response to the lament expressed above is this: How many media people do you know who feel checking out what is on goanet is vital to their work in terms of giving them an edge about future developments? Has goanet succeeded in establishing working links with media (or even PR) people locally and nationally? If so then we have the basis at goanet for making an impact via the required force multiplier effect. 6. I do appreciate that strenuous efforts are being continuously made at goanet to track and share higher quality information for the benefit of goan etters in general. Our response to these postings could perhaps be a little more vigorous in terms of reactions (besides the polite ones). Somehow it seems people feel that they cant comment unless they are experts thus missing out on an opportunity to learn or shape a line of policy. As we all know, many a time the silly question can even be educative [like the boy who enquired about the emperor's (lack of) clothes]! 7. So the bottom line is: make the think tank idea more of a reality on goanet by thoughtfully sharing your views on information about (or applicable to) Goa! Let's try and shape conventional wisdom and maybe even policy plans.
Re: [Goanet]Together we can make it... (Santosh NEed YOur Help Again)
On 14/06/05, Cynthia Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Butler lost his legs in a 1965 land mine explosion in Vietnam. He returned home a war hero. Twenty years later, he proved once again that heroism comes from the heart. RESPONSE: Madam, I think, you are incorrigible. I am glad that you are asking for Santosh's help - sure he will oblige. May I suggest that since we are fast approaching Summer here, it's already Summer in Toronto 34 degrees C, could you please kindly do us a favour and try posting a minimum or 2 or 3 of these kind of posts everyday. I need to keep Gemma Brown happy. If you forgot she is doing a study in spam chain emails. Please copy her in all your posts:- E-mail Address(es): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other Goanetters if you are able to oblige please do so too. Oh and don't forget to send all such ditties to Goanet as well!
Re:[Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage
Peter DSouza wrote: I also believe that most so-called liberals are actually very closed-minded, consequently I spare myself the futility. Peter, Do you mean to say that the so-called liberals are actually very conservative, and are not open to other points of view? more power to him in his quest to educate America-haters, those opposed to a free Iraq, and the French. Who according to you is an America-hater? One who disagrees with the policies of the present U.S. administration? Who according to you is opposed to a free Iraq? One who disagrees with the policies of the present U.S. administration? Does an America-lover have to be a hater of the French? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]TOURISM POLICY -- DANGER AHEAD FOR GOA?
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=93824 Tourism: sunset for sustainable policy? Local governments need to be kept in the loop before making commitments BENNY KURUVILLA Posted online: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at hours IST Given the diversity that exists in terms of tourist destinations in India and corresponding policy requirements, it is optimal that the representative governments of the area effectively enforce planning, regulation and monitoring of tourism projects. 'It is well recognised that Gats will intrude into these democratic spaces, as commitments made by the commerce ministry will apply to all regional and local government authorities,' says K T Suresh of Equations. Take the case of the recently passed Kerala Tourism (Conservation and Preservation of Areas) Act, 2005. The Act allows the Kerala government to declare any area in the state as a tourism zone and empowers a committee to regulate activities inside such zones. Equations says such legislation, that recognise the need for sustainable planning and decentralised policy, will run afoul of Gats. In January 2004, India signalled its intention to have no quantitative limitations on foreign enterprises in the hotels and tour operator category. Says Equations, this means that the national and, more importantly, regional and local governments will not be able to restrict the activities of foreign tourism providers in ecologically fragile tourism areas. 'Added to a freeze on sustainable policy, this hits at the heart of democratic decision making, ' says Mr Suresh. Civil society's fears are not unfounded. Regional and local governments continue to be unaware of the deals that the commerce ministry is concluding in Geneva. Ten years is long enough to start serious introspection on Gats and it remains to be seen if some of these concerns are squarely addressed.
RE: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck... and Chennai
These facts have been known for a long time, in Bombay and Delhi circles. There is also Sir Clifford Richard, who was born of British parents, at the foot of the Himalayas. Nasci Caldeira From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck... and Chennai Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:06:31 +0530 (IST) Did you know that singer Engelbert Humperdinct was born in Chennai? This factoid resurfaced during his recent three-city tour to India. Apparently, his father was working in the British Army. Incidentally, Alfred and Rita Rose's sons are named Engelbert and Schubert. And the other Indian-born star to make it big in the West was the late Freddy Mercury (who was originally a Parsi named Balsara). FN
[Goanet]Pl. identify this tiatrist (last one)
One is Sabina (Greg's wife) and who is the other ? Pl. Note this photo could be about 25 years old just taken photo of an old photo. Pl ignore the date imprinted. Could you pl indentify? thanks. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joegoauk/album?.dir=aa83.src=phstore=prodid=.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joegoauk/my_photos [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re:Request for Information on Moira
--- Nascimen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mr. Jerome, Kindly ask Mr. Colin Fernandes to read the booklet Dr. Teotonio Sousa from Moira who wrote during the centenary time of their Church of Immaculate Conception a few years back giving information on the village of Moira.. Regarding baptism certificates Mr. Colin Fernandes has to meet the clerk or parish priest in the Church. at Moira,, during office hours, Monday to Saturday. Also the Communidade Office is located in Moira, but they have specific dates. In the Church the baptism books are probably rom1860( 1860 to 1913 )in summery form and from 1914 till date in detail form One can get marriage and death records too in the Church., Also in Mapuca , Civil Register Office you can gets all dates of births , marriages and deathsprior to 1961, some in Panjim Archives. at panjin especially old records. After liberation(1961), they must be in the Panchayat Office in Moira( only births deaths, marriages in Mapuca, Registo Civil office) The Communidade Books in Moira,( near the church.) are there They have specific days when it opens. He can try also in Mapuca( Comunidade de Bardez) and Historical Archives of Goa( HAG), Rua de Ourem, Panjim, Goa, to get ganvkars names. I would advise him to visit Mr. Jose or Joseph de Melo in Povoasanv, Moira. He is knowlegable and he would indicate other right persons from Moira, to find other persons helpful in his case. Also Dr. Teotonio de Souza could be contacted in Lisbon, Portugal through e-mail. Probably Mr. Jose de Melo will have Dr. Teotonio' e-mail. These are the contact persons and little information I can give. However I cannot travel as I am sick and on the staff at St. Andrew's Church, Vasco da gama, Goa. With much love and prayers, Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas. - - Original Message - From: Jen Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, I'm writing in from Calcutta and need some help for a friend of mine called Colin Fernandes. H'e wants to do a family tree and needs to get information on Moira, his ancestral village, where his late father got his baptism certificate. He is planning to go there sometime at the end of the month and meet the parish priest and some locals who may remember his family. Could anybody help me with the address details of the church and where these kind of records can be obtained in Moira. Thanks Jerome Jerome D'Souza P 106 CIT Road Entally Kolkata - 700014 M: +919831399024 *~Jen Birmingham UK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VascokarsUnited/ __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/
RE: [Goanet]Spare us this Rogue' gallery - by Ethel da Costa
Dear Dr. Willy, Spare us, the people of Goa, from your stupidity and silliness. Goa cannot really afford to have a deputy Ch. Minister on their payroll! So please resign your deputy Ch Ministership, take a back seat and relax,whilst keeping up support for the Rane Govt. A Ch. Minister must be allowed to use his prerogative unconditionally, in selecting the members of his/her cabinet; it should have been as simple as that. But you have to go and interfere and blackmail too!Thus further polluting the body politic. Please set the 'good example' and put no more shame and embarrasment on your cousins etc in Hong Kong, Australia, Portugal and elsewhere. Be a 'Good Man' for once, and be a good Christian! God will forgive you if you repent NOW! Amen. Nasci Caldeira Melbourne. From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Spare us this Rogue' gallery - by Ethel da Costa Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:33:04 +0530 HEART 2 HEART - Herald - June 12 BY ETHEL DA COSTA Spare us this Rogue' gallery Dear Dr Wile Willy, Do you really want to go down as a rogue in Goa's political history? Do you really think it's worth all that fuss playing Minnie Mouse in this unholy Walt Disney disaster? Frankly, Dr Willy, why don't you simply fold your cape, bow out in grace and accept that you're no longer the Super Man Goa once pitched her might with. Super heroes have expiry dates. We don't read them anymore. We have outgrown the stunts. We simply cease to care. In short, is retirement such a bad word? Is it such an aberration to be sidelined and left to nurse your glory days in contentment, rather than have us watch you huff into television microphones trying desperately to catch the attention of a waning public who have had enough of Goa's political antics and are not amused anymore? Time and again Goa has been taken for a ride because no politician worth his two sandals cares about the future of this State. No political party comes to power with an agenda for Goa. The blood hounds are watching. They are smacking their lips. They are waiting for their pound of flesh to heal their wounded pride. A good Catholic preaches forgiveness. We are not asking you to forget. We are asking you to unite to fight for the betterment of Goa. Let us not fall like pawns into the booby traps laid cunningly on our path. Educated Goans want to stay back and work for Goa. Unite these hands into a singular force and go down in history as a man who dared. You don't want them smirking that you're going senile with your idiosyncrasies, do you? In the best interest of Goa, set us a new example.
