*** Goanet Reader: Save Konkani from Konkaniwadis... a plea against puritanism

2005-10-02 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
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Save Konkani from Konkaniwadis... a plea against puritanism

Joseph Zuzarte
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The proponents of the different types of Konkani should take a look at
the English language. Every year the language keeps growing by the
simple process of adding new words from other languages, including
regular incorporations from Hindi and other Indian languages.

So words like bazaar, tamasha etc have been added to the English
lexicon, besides words from other languages which are spoken by a large
number of people in between their English. Soon a Konkani word might
even become officially English. Which will that Konkani word be? And
will it then be outlawed from Konkani proper? Some of our swear words
are already popular with the regular foreign visitors.

Consider this list of English words borrowed from Hindi: Cummerbund
(Hindustani kamarband) meaning waist-belt; chintz (Hindi chint) meaning
spotted cotton cloth; dacoit (Hindi dakait) meaning robber; sorbet
(Hindustani sherbet) meaning a refreshing drink; jungle (Jangal) meaning
forest; loot meaning plunder; khaki meaning dust-cloured cloth; lakh and
crore; sepoy (sipahi); durbar (darbar) and countless other words like
chutney, durrie.

Besides, there are also words from other Indian langauges. 

Mongoose, the killer of snakes and rats, got its English name from the
Marathi word mangus. The English words  coir and betel have come up
from the Malayalam words kayer and vettila, while curry and cheroot
have their origins in Tamil words kari and shuruttu.

Like with other languages, Konkani, too has a chequered history. As the
proponents of the various types of Konkani prove so easily, there are a
number of different types of Konkani all along the west coast of
India, right from the Gujarat coast, down through Maharashtra, Goa,
Karnataka and Kerala.

It is the language of the Konkan people, the west coast of India being
known as the Konkan coast. However, this long Konkan coast has been
part of different kingdoms at different times because of geographical
and historical factors.

So the language of the Konkan people has evolved differently at
different places over the centuries. Even the scripts used are
considerably different. What cannot be denied is that all the different
types of Konkani are recognisably Konkani. What also cannot be denied
is that Konkani -- like English -- has also absorbed a number of words
from other languages.

So today you have some recognisably broad types of Konkani which have
been separately influenced by Portuguese, Marathi and Kannada. English
words like solid, fast, etc., are also loosely used in Konkani of
late (sample: kiden fast cholta; samko solid aha). 

There are also the various types of Kokani spoken by the tribals like
gawdas, kunbis and other communities, all of them with a very distinct
identity. With English it is the people behind the Oxford English
Dictionary -- the Bible of the English language -- who scrutinise
language usage in newspapers, books, and other popular media, to sift
through new words and to determine which new words are to be added to
English.

They also decide on which old words are no longer in usage and should
therefore be dropped from the Oxford Dictionary. This endeavour ahs
been going on for around 600 years, initially funded by the British
royalty. 

A similar thing happens in the U.S., which has its American-English
(now bundled in Windows), the Wenster Dictionary being the bench-mark.

   Who decides which is a Konkani word and which is not? 
   At the moment there is no clear authority which is 
   accepted across all sections of the Konkani-speaking
   diaspora. 

The Konkani taught in schools and colleges is largely irrelevant.
Therefore, each type of Konkani has its own adherents, advocates and
authorities, who not only swear by their brand of Konkani but also by
the script which is most convenient to them (and which may be most
inconvenient to the others). 

There are a number of factors which have bound themselves with what is
essentially a means of communication. Thus, each types of Konkani has
come to represent a certain cultural ethos, regional identity and even
political aspirations. 

Throw is some politicians to stir up the cauldron, and you have a very
potent, emotive issue.

There has always been a clear divide within Goa between the types of
Konkani spoken by the Hindus and the Catholics, though there are also,
obviously, a lot of 

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PLANNED LOOT: Goa is up for sale to a builders' lobby all set to
butcher planned development, and puncture the countryside.
Shcokingly, this loot is about to be legalised through a backdoor
ordinance sponsored by the town and country planning minister
Atanasio 'Babush' Monserrate, leaving Chief Minister Rane a hapless
spectator, writes the GOMANTAK TIMES. 

  
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ANOTHER GOAN GETS NOTICED: Francisco Luis Gomes of Navelim, whose
136th death anniversary went unnoticed, drew the attnetion of the
cityfathers of Panjim, after a piece of writing in a vernacular
paper noted that his statue lies neglected.  (GT)

GOA'S INFORMATION department termed Oct 2 as the death anniversary
of Mahatma Gandhi, instead of calling it his birth anniversary! GT

o Maintaining cleanliness is real tribute to Gandhi, says CM (NT)

  Monday mornings sees a music-only faith programme titled
  Good Morning Lord. It is put out by Boromor 'Boni' Dias
  who has been playing a song which reminds him of the
  music at his St Stanisclaus School at Bandra.
  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 2 
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o Computer curriculum mulled for primary students. (NT)
o Morjim, Mandrem beaches cry for infrastructure. (NT)
o Goa cabinet okays administrator for Panjim corporation.(NT)
o Info  Broadcasting team visits IFFI venues, leaves for Delhi.
o Goa pays homage to Mahatma Gandhi on Oct 2. (NT)
o Goa BJP is having a state unit meet at Ponda. (NT)
o BJP seeks benefits for members of Other Backward Classes.(NT)
o US embassy announces new system for visa applicants. (NT)
o Concern raised over delclining sex-ratio in Goa. (NT)
o Margao: chairperson Doris Texeira, Savio Coutinho and
  Ethel Lobo among those who file nominations. (NT)
o Middlemen prosper in vicinity of Goa RTO offices. (NT)
o Disability Rights Assn of Goa seeks 3% teachers quota.(NT)
o Language diversity day at Kala Academy, Oct 14. (NT)
o Pandit Jitendra Abhisheki Sangeet Mahotsav begins. (NT)
o Archbishop's message for Social Apostolate Sunday. (NT)
o Strive to make India a progressive state: Swamiji. (NT)
o Computer education to be introduced from Std I says Luizinho. H
o Book review, Call to Love by Anthony de Mello, sj

  I sacked Monserrate to save Goa, claims
  former BJP chief minister, Manohar Parrikar,
  in an interview with Bevinda Collaco. (H)

  Franky Fernandes writes that the Indo-US
  wargames, the largest ever military exercises
  off the Goa coast, are proving to be a 
  David versus Golliath encounter, with the
  advanced US F18s involved. (H)

  Vascoites outraged over naval demands to raze
  cross vault. Parishioners of St Mary's
  Orthodox Church at Varunapuri are upset.(H)

  Gospel singers Rex Band performed in Navelim
  earlier, and in Panjim on Sunday, attracting
  a large audience. (H) 

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NEWS FROM SUNAPARANT
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o Aatam puro, Gandhichya vicharanchi fankadam khub zaali.
  Focus on the installation by Subodh Kerkar, dedicated to
  Gandhi, titled 'Enough'.
o Apangul bhurgyanchi shikshankhatir arthik palv yojana.Luizinho
  Luizinho promises scheme for aid for disabled students.
o Navelim students 

[Goanet] Re: Musings on crossing a hundred....

2005-10-02 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
On Sat, 2005-10-01 at 22:44 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Musings on crossing a hundred
 For his September 9, 2005 birthday, he had the company
of his children and grandchildren from Geneva,
Switzerland, Perth and Montreal and Toronto. Now,
doesn't that say something about Goan migration?

...and doesn't it make all the talk one hears from 'true Goans' about
'outsiders' sound completely hilarious?

-- 
Question everything - Karl Marx




[Goanet] On Opposite Sides of the Globe

2005-10-02 Thread Francis Lobo


   ON  OPPOSITE  SIDES  OF  THE  GLOBE

Francis Lobo

Those who advocated globalization probably didn’t realize that those
on the other side of the globe would see everything upside down. I
came to Udaipur from Los Angeles, where everything is new  fresh.
Even the expression, “As old as the hills” doesn’t apply  ---  the
hills have been rejuvenated  re-engineered. The only things ancient
about the place are the ocean  its senior citizens. In Udaipur, on
the other hand, life in some respects is frozen in some past
millennium   ---  Gobar is used as fuel in its original form. Unlike
in the advanced nations here they don’t wait millions of years for
nature to process the same or similar material into crude oil.

A stray dog was guarding the house, where my son lives, and wouldn’t
let me enter. The servant girl with one whack got it moving, an
action, which in LA, where dogs are treated better than humans, would
have probably incurred the wrath of the Law. In Udaipur the ancient
wisdom still applies  ---  Spare the rod  spoil the dog.

This village damsel sat watching her cows graze in the field. I asked
her how many cows she had. She said, “Two”. But I told her that I saw
three. She laughed  ---  I was not able to determine the sex of
animals  ---  one was not a cow. As I was talking to this woman, a
sweet young thing in her new Santro whizzed by screeching to her boy
friend @#%^* on her mobile. I had to jump into a puddle to get out of
the way. She was obviously having some problem. The village folk, who
sit relaxed watching cows, don’t realize the tensions  stress that
the affluent have to go through. In LA people work hard  go through
stress  tension so that they can retire  relax. In Udaipur they
don’t work  achieve the same result.

The next time I saw a cow I was looking intently to see if I could
make out the difference. Suddenly I saw a bull charging at me. I
rushed into a nearby shop as fast as my aging legs would take me.
Fortunately, it wasn’t a china shop; otherwise there would have been
a live demo of “A bull in a china shop”. Lesson: Never look with love
 affection at a cow when there is a bull around.

In Udaipur retailing is by specialty  ---  the shop that sells cold
drinks doesn’t sell biscuits; there are separate sellers for bananas,
guavas, peanuts, etc. On the opposite side of the globe one super
market sells everything from a pin to a BMW. You can even buy pins 
if you are lucky with the winning number on your purchase, you could
get the BMW free. The management gurus, who recommend that India
should embrace the Western style of retailing, don’t see the
realities. How will a villager support a BMW where he can’t support
his own children  has to make sacrifices to educate them?

The Udaipur Airport announces that you have entered the City of
Lakes. When I first visited the city, I asked my son to show these to
me. He took me around the town  pointed to a depression in the
ground, “This is the Fatehsagar Lake”. Further down he showed me
another depression. “That is Roopsagar” And so on it went. All the
lakes,  streams were dry. The good rains this year have changed all
this  ---  all lakes are full. The last government lost the elections
on the issues of Electricity, Roads  Water. The scarcity of water
has been taken care of by THE  SUPER  POWER. Now it is a question of
floods  water logging. Planned power cuts have been stopped  ---
now they are unplanned  can occur at any time  for any length of
time. The roads are in a worse shape because of the severe beating
they have received from the heavy rains. Politics is the ability to
give new spins to old issues.

23rd September was a unique day in Udaipur, it poured. The lakes
started overflowing. The people were over joyed  despite the pouring
rain, they were on the streets to see their city regain its past
beauty  glory after a decade of drought. The police were out to
control the crowds. Children played in the knee-deep water. Some
schools declared the next day a holiday  ---  teachers  students
were recovering from the excitement. For people to appreciate
hardship, they should have first experienced a greater hardship. The
streams brought with them fish that people were catching. Lesson: if
you go with the stream  the current, it is easy, but be sure you
will be caught  eaten at the other end.

On the other side of the globe people were running away from
Hurricane Rita. One wet season can change the life of whole cities.
Not many months ago I had listened with rapt attention leaning
forward with open mouth, eyes  ears as eminent scientists rubbished
the concept of global warming  the numerous laws that had been
framed to protect the ecology  control pollution. These they said
had been done under pressure from vested interests, using pseudo
scientists, applying unscientific methods to draw alarming
conclusions  frighten unthinking  gullible folk. The Kyoto Treaty
was dead. I went to sleep 

[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Outubrachi 3ri, 2005!

2005-10-02 Thread domnic fernandes
Doieallponn sarko aslelea poros chodd molachem.  Thodde pavtti eka zonnak 
goroz nhoi eke porzollit montichi ji uloita punn eka sosnnik kallzachi jem 
aikota.


(To be kind is more important than to be right.  Sometimes all a person 
needs is not a brilliant mind that speaks but a patient heart that listens.)


Moi-mogan,
Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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Re: [Goanet] The married priest (I'm married to one)

2005-10-02 Thread Viviana

 Hello Cornel -

I'm quite pleased to see this post - married Priesthood is near and dear 
to my heart!  I'm married to a priest and I've known for probably 15 
years, thanks to an article in Time magazine, that there are HUNDREDS of 
married RC priests in the US functioning with full Vatican approval.  
These men came over to Rome from Canterbury for different reasons 
(mostly they are against the ordination of women and practicing 
homosexuals) and are in parishes all over the United States.


My married priest did the opposite - Ariosto went from Rome to the 
Anglican Church.  I remember when I first met Ariosto, while he was a 
Salesian of Don Bosco, I casually mentioned to him (*wink*wink*) about 
married RC priests and HE had never heard of it, yet he'd been ordained 
for almost 20 years at the time.  I'm not even sure he believed me but 
then of course came to know it's true.  His Parish Priest at the first 
Anglican Parish where he served also made the switch to Rome a few years 
ago and brought his wife and daughter with him to St. Catherine's Roman 
Catholic Church in Burlingame, California, just down the road from us. 

While there are some Goans who were supportive from the beginning of our 
marriage (being an inter-racial couple was another problem), there was 
some consternation among the Goan community here in the Bay Area and in 
Goa, but now, all these many years later, most people have come to 
accept us.  Ariosto was recently asked to celebrate the Mass for the 
21st birthday of a young Goan man and many Goans did receive Holy 
Communion.  Goan women who had refused to speak to me or even look at me 
for more than a decade were downright friendly - it was really a turning 
point for us, and the young man's mother is a very courageous woman.  
Ariosto performs about 30 marriages each year and it does come as a 
surprise to many people that he's married. He enjoys being a married 
priest and always believed that there was no reason why he couldn't be both.


WRT your original question (for those of you who are still awake) I do 
believe that Rome keeps secret for a few reasons.  The obvious one is 
MONEY.  It would cost a lot of money to support married priests and 
their families, wouldn't it?  Another view, held by David Rice in his 
book Shattered Vows, Exodus from The Priesthood, is that the Church 
needs its priests to be obedient, loyal and devoted to the Pope, not 
their wives and children.  A third, and this is MY opinion, is that it 
would be difficult to explain to the fellows who have lived celibate and 
probably lonely lives why the other guys can have families and they 
can't.  I assure you that not all RC priests know that some of their 
colleagues are married.


Viviana



cornel wrote:

Very recently, I attended, a  Roman Catholic wedding ceremony in 
London..







[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * Oct 3, 2005 * Goa's great land loot....

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Compiled by Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-

PLANNED LOOT: Goa is up for sale to a builders' lobby all set to
butcher planned development, and puncture the countryside.
Shcokingly, this loot is about to be legalised through a backdoor
ordinance sponsored by the town and country planning minister
Atanasio 'Babush' Monserrate, leaving Chief Minister Rane a hapless
spectator, writes the GOMANTAK TIMES. 

  
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ANOTHER GOAN GETS NOTICED: Francisco Luis Gomes of Navelim, whose
136th death anniversary went unnoticed, drew the attnetion of the
cityfathers of Panjim, after a piece of writing in a vernacular
paper noted that his statue lies neglected.  (GT)

GOA'S INFORMATION department termed Oct 2 as the death anniversary
of Mahatma Gandhi, instead of calling it his birth anniversary! GT

o Maintaining cleanliness is real tribute to Gandhi, says CM (NT)

  Monday mornings sees a music-only faith programme titled
  Good Morning Lord. It is put out by Boromor 'Boni' Dias
  who has been playing a song which reminds him of the
  music at his St Stanisclaus School at Bandra.
  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 2 
-

o Computer curriculum mulled for primary students. (NT)
o Morjim, Mandrem beaches cry for infrastructure. (NT)
o Goa cabinet okays administrator for Panjim corporation.(NT)
o Info  Broadcasting team visits IFFI venues, leaves for Delhi.
o Goa pays homage to Mahatma Gandhi on Oct 2. (NT)
o Goa BJP is having a state unit meet at Ponda. (NT)
o BJP seeks benefits for members of Other Backward Classes.(NT)
o US embassy announces new system for visa applicants. (NT)
o Concern raised over delclining sex-ratio in Goa. (NT)
o Margao: chairperson Doris Texeira, Savio Coutinho and
  Ethel Lobo among those who file nominations. (NT)
o Middlemen prosper in vicinity of Goa RTO offices. (NT)
o Disability Rights Assn of Goa seeks 3% teachers quota.(NT)
o Language diversity day at Kala Academy, Oct 14. (NT)
o Pandit Jitendra Abhisheki Sangeet Mahotsav begins. (NT)
o Archbishop's message for Social Apostolate Sunday. (NT)
o Strive to make India a progressive state: Swamiji. (NT)
o Computer education to be introduced from Std I says Luizinho. H
o Book review, Call to Love by Anthony de Mello, sj

  I sacked Monserrate to save Goa, claims
  former BJP chief minister, Manohar Parrikar,
  in an interview with Bevinda Collaco. (H)

  Franky Fernandes writes that the Indo-US
  wargames, the largest ever military exercises
  off the Goa coast, are proving to be a 
  David versus Golliath encounter, with the
  advanced US F18s involved. (H)

  Vascoites outraged over naval demands to raze
  cross vault. Parishioners of St Mary's
  Orthodox Church at Varunapuri are upset.(H)

  Gospel singers Rex Band performed in Navelim
  earlier, and in Panjim on Sunday, attracting
  a large audience. (H) 

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NEWS FROM SUNAPARANT
-

o Aatam puro, Gandhichya vicharanchi fankadam khub zaali.
  Focus on the installation by Subodh Kerkar, dedicated to
  Gandhi, titled 'Enough'.
o Apangul bhurgyanchi shikshankhatir arthik palv yojana.Luizinho
  Luizinho promises scheme for aid for disabled students.
o Navelim students hold protests calling for 'no drugs'. 

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NEWS FROM DIGITALGOA.COM
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http://www.digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=345

BJP charge Rane govt to be anti bhahujan samaj

BJP has charged the Rane government of being anti bahujan samaj.
Party President Rajendra Arlekar while addressing media persons
said that scrapping of pre employment scheme started the previous
government has hit the youth of 

[Goanet] DOWN MEMORY LANE -- KPA DECEIT

2005-10-02 Thread godfrey gonsalves
Nearly a decade ago perhaps no one at that  historic
meet  which witnessed a mammoth gathering   on 14th
November 1985 at the Azad Maidan Panaji (incidentally
that was Children' Day and the birth day of India's
first Prime Minister Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru)
DEMANDING RECOGNITION TO KONKANI LANGUAGE realised
that covertly a criminal act of deceit  was inflicted
by a section of the Hindu Brahmins on a section of the
people of Goa (mainly Cristaos ) who were conversant
with the Roman script, when  four years earlier on 21
November 1981 the members of General Council (for
Konkani) of the Sahitya Akademi decided to impose
Konkani  ONLY in the Devanagari script as acceptable
to the people of Goa instead of BOTH Roman and
Devanagiri. 

Today these traitors in the garb of maintaining
communal harmony are now maintaining a discreet
silence on the exposures made by this writer and
several others. 

One of the traitors who took Rs 1000/- as car
allowance from KPA funds (and has not denied it till
date) is well esconed in the recently constituted Goa
Pradesh Congress Committee apparently to create more
damage. 

It is this section of the Hindu Brahmins that had
spread the myth that the Hindu Bahujan Samaj (non
Hindu Brahmins) were supporting Marathi when in
reality they were one -in agreeing that Konkani is
their mother tongue as is the case of every niz
goencar  but they only demanded that the Marathi
language used for cultural and written purposes be
given due recognition owing to long usage which was
justified. 

The hatred that was being directed towards the Hindu
Bahujan Samaj by instigating the Cristaos was only to
cover the chicanery of a section of the Hindu Brahmins
who played the mischief in the act of denying official
recognition to the Roman script.

This is now sought to be rectified with an amendment.

It is a clarion call given to all the 36 members of
the Goa legislative Assembly irrespective of the
parties that they belong, to immediately prepare the
legislation to bring about the amendment in the coming
session. 

It is also a reminder that this historic meet was
addressed by Mr Pundalik Naik the Convenor of the
Konkani Porjecho Avaz, the lone MLA of the then Goa
Congress Mr Luizinho Faleiro and the present Deputy
Speaker of the Goa Legislative Assembly Ms Victoria
Fernandes lone INC women representative to take
positive steps in this direction.
 
A peep into memory lane gives an insight into the
MLA's that supported the Official Language Act 1987
in its present form.

Of the 18 Indian National Congress MLAs elected to the
1984 Goa Legislative Assembly which was then an Union
territory with 30 seats with 2 i.e. one each for Daman
and Diu only the following are still in power
Mr Francisco Sardinha  Curtorim
Mr Subhash Shirodkar   Shiroda
Mr Harsh ZantyeBicholim
Mr Dayanand Narvekar   Tivim
Mr Pratapsing Rane Sattari

Other vanquished are Shaik Hassan Haroon, J B
Gonsalves Manu Fernandes Vassu Paik Gaonkar Simon D
Souza Pandu Naik Dr Luis Proto Barboso Francisco Monte
Cruz Chandrakant Vernekar Dr Sripad Cuncoliencar
Voikunt Dessai Sambhaji Solanki Shambu Bandekar

Of the lone Goa Congress (elected unopposed) 
Mr Luisinho FaleiroNavelim 
is still in power but now pledges allegiance to the
INC

Of the three Independent members none are in power
they were Jivanbhai Prabhakar late Francisco Branco
Uday L Bhembre 
___

Of the 8 Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party MGP only 
Mr Ravi Sitaram Naik   Ponda 
is still in power but from then until now he has
meandered from INC BJP and back to INC

Others vanquished are Babuso Gaonkar Ramakant Khalap
Prakash Velip Ashok Naik Kashinath Zolmi Chandrashekar
Divkar Srikant Malik

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There are also questions which need answers were these
MLA's who in their manifesto promised recognition for
either or both Konkani and Marathi as official
languages or that they would constitute a Government
aided Konkani and Marathi Academy were aware that a
section of the Goan population (mainly Cristaos ) the
125 diocesan schools that switched over to Konkani in
Devanagari script (without a standardised text without
properly trained teachers  in academic year 1989-90
onwards)or the Catholic Church aware of the mischief
committed on 21st November 1981 at the Sahitya Academy
New Delhi? and if yes, can they not be treated as
traitors alongwith the others? and if they did not
will they now stand up now that they are in the ruling
party and speak out with the courage of conviction and
undo the injustice???

This is the question every Goan must ask for its now
or never.  There is a deluge of influx of migrants to
Goa --- a peep at the Railway terminus the Airports
the Inter state Bus terminus are witness to the new
entrants to Goa and all this because there is a
Government in power insensitive to the alarming change
in demographic composition of the State. 

They were out 

[Goanet] Re: Tips for a comfortable railway journey in India

2005-10-02 Thread Vivian D'Souza
Thanks Lawrence for some excellent tips.  A few of my
own practical tips to add to yours

1.  Smile, greet your fellow passengers, as they will
more than likely be with you for the duration of 
the trip.  Getting to know them, helps, especially
if you are travelling alone, and have to leave 
your baggage behind to go to the toilet. Having
a pack of cards to while away the time is also
good.

 2. Carry a small bar of soap to wash your hands, as
they may not be any in the toilets.

 3. If you use toilet paper, carry a roll of your own.

 4. The food can be monotonous, especially on long
journeys.  Either carry your own, or bring along
some kharrecho, miskut or parra to add spice
to the fare.

  5. Do not accept food items, such as biscuits or
 mithai from your nice fellow passengers.
 This is just a precaution, as there have been 
 news stories about these items being spiked with
 drugs and passengers then relieved of their
 belongings.

 Happy travels !




[Goanet] Reliance Logistics and Konkan Railway...

2005-10-02 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues
See http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/006200510030325.htm

The Hindu
News Update Service
Monday, October 3, 2005 : 0200 Hrs

Business

Reliance Logistics aims Rs 2000 cr. yearly growth

Mumbai, Oct. 3 (PTI): Earning Rs 2,000 crore per annum through its logistical
operations, Reliance Logistics Limited (RLL) aims to clock a yearly growth rate
of 100 per cent by enhancing efficiency of fleet management and providing back
office infrastrastructural support to the shipping lines.

India has an unorganised logistics market between Rs 75,000 crore and 3,00,000
crore. Of this, around three to four per cent share is of organised market. In
this segment we have a share of Rs 2000 crore, making us the largest freight
manager in the country. We want a yearly growth from here at a rate of 100 per
cent, RLL vice-president, Business Development, Capt. Yogesh Kundra, said here.

Today, we annually move over 15 Million metric tons of freight through Road,
Rail and Sea making us the single largest logistics facilitator in the country .
The RLL network is supported by warehouses and transshipment centers at
strategic locations, intense information technology base and other related
infrastructure, Kundra said.

One of its premier logistics service today includes the Roll On-Roll Off (RORO)
services on the Konkan Railway between Kolad (Roha) and Surathkal (near
Mangalore).

RORO enables carrying loaded trucks directly on railway wagons thus reducing
expenses of the transporter on diesel, the wear and tear of tyres, maintenance
of trucks and the turnaround time of the trucks.




Re: [Goanet] Re: PUBLIC INTEREST LITIGATION WRIT PETITION NO.3 OF 2005

2005-10-02 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues
   In 1998, environmental NGOs and citizens formed the Goa
Environment Federation (GEF).

At the first GEF meeting in June 1998, the problem of plastic waste
disposal was highlighted as a major environmental problem facing Goa
by no less than five NGOs as well as several citizens in written
submissions made before the Goa Environment Commission constituted by
the GEF.

Various PILs forced the problem of plastic waste disposal to be
considered as a separate category from general garbage.

It was during these proceedings that the Goa state government informed
the court that it had notified on January 2000, a committee to look
into all aspects of solid waste management in the state, including the
relevant laws, and to produce a comprehensive report within three
months outlining a scheme of action and
various measures to be taken by the different authorities to deal with
the problem.

Regular meetings of the committee during the next three months,
resulted in the finalisation of a report titled 'Solid Waste
Management in the State of Goa' (SWM Report) which was presented to
the court in April 2000.

In July, the state Government informed the court that it had accepted
the report and would immediately commence steps for its
implementation.

As a first step, the state Government took a decision to enforce the
ban on use of plastic bags below 20 microns from August 15, 2000.

***
The government sought time till  December 31 to complete the steps
necessary for full implementation of other aspects of the SWM Report
which included:

l A ban on the use of recycled plastic bags for food items;
l Setting up of composting units to take care of biodegradable garbage;
l Arranging for the disposal of non-biodegradable garbage to recycling
plants outside the state;
l Ensuring that Garbage Management Committees are set up in all
panchayats and municipalities.***Sunday Mid Day, September 11,
2005


Floriano,

What was the outcome of the Court hearing on 26 Sep 05?  Been eagerly
scanning Goanet for your update.

Believe the Government may be punished for *contempt of court* as the
Government has broken it's assurance to the Court to complete the
steps necessary for full implementation of other aspects of the SWM
Report, by 31 December 2000


Lawrence



[Goanet] Nature of Goa's government

2005-10-02 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Philip,

I was hoping someone would respond to your interesting comment. But since no 
has done so, let me take your bait.

Goans can stay in their balcao contemplating the three-ring circus in 
government in Goa and India.  Yet in the short span of about 40-60 years, Goa 
and India have made remarkable economic strides (from bullockcart to space 
missions) in spite of the three-ring circus. Can you  imagine what these 
places and people would have done if all were on the same page?  

Let me make a humble suggestion to Goan writers.  Instead of the news-reporters 
giving their opinion and solutions on every aspect of life, why don't they 
interview and quote people in the know?  Hence let's hear from retired Goan 
navy brass about the navy base in Goa. Let's hear from retired airline pilots 
and officials about the maximum utilization of Dabolim, or the need for MOPA, 
and the tourists /film industry about IFFI, etc.  Don't you think that would be 
a better way to educate cyber-Goans?  

I have yet to read pros and con on any Goa related issue from two recognized 
authorities. Thus the rest of us may get the same EXPERT opinions and advice as 
the politicians.  Perhaps you and other journalists have done so. Goans living 
in the north and south pole (i.e. far away from the Goan tropics like me) 
would be better off listening to and reading from some technically qualified 
natives.  Just a suggestion.   
Kind Regards, GL

Philip Thomas:
I would be interested to know especially from our overseas Goan friends in 
supposedly progressive climes what the role should be of a democratic 
government in a republican context in this tragi-comic situation. Cheers.




[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Save Konkani from Konkaniwadis... a plea against puritanism

2005-10-02 Thread English Books Al-Ahsa S/R
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Hello Joseph

It was nice reading your article. You are right when you say that even
English language has accept words and vocabularies from other languages and
they are there in the dictionaries.

Goans as far as I know are regular users of Konglish language, and those who
are not well versed in English use tambdi English. (Red English, don’t know
where this word originated). Even our Konkani uses lots of words from other
languages especially Portuguese which are well known. Hence what you say is
absolutely right. We cannot go for the Konkani which devanagris have been
using so far as hardly any one uses it for day to day conversation. We don’t
want our Konkani to be like Sanskrit, a dead language in the long run.

Cheers

Jerry Fernandes

Joseph Zuzarte
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The proponents of the different types of Konkani should take a look at
the English language. Every year the language keeps growing by the
simple process of adding new words from other languages, including
regular incorporations from Hindi and other Indian languages...

Everyday spoken Konkani has its own dynamic dictated by the needs of
the people to express themselves and communicate with others and be
fully understood. Which may mean interspersing their Konkani with
Hindi, English or whatever else catches their fancy and is necessary.





[Goanet] Re: Travel to Goa - a query from Spain

2005-10-02 Thread jose colaco
--- Thelma .  wrote:

Dear Dr. Colaço :
 
I have just read your recommendations on precautions
to be taken regarding various diseases when travelling
to Goa.
 
I am travelling to Goa at the end of the year for a
couple of weeks with my daughter, son-in-law and
little baby who will then be 17 months old.  We are a
bit concerned about protecting him against possible
contagious and dangerous diseases such as malaria and
would greatly appreciate if you could suggest what
measures we should take to protect him.  I see that
Malarone is strongly recommended against malaria.  We
will be staying mainly in   but also travelling
around North Goa and also making trips to the south.
 
We will be travelling from Spain and I was wondering
if you consider there is something else we should take
from here which is maybe difficult to get over there
and which has escaped my attention.
 
Thanking you kindly in anticipation for your reply.
 
Yours sincerely,
Thelma 

==

Dear Thelma,

Am posting my reply on to the discussion lists, hence
I have deleted you surname and placed your e-address
into the bcc column..

I do not believe that you need to take anything from
Spain to Goa. (I assume that this is in special
reference to your child).

The only exception: If your child is on any specific
medication.

You being in Spain, I expect that your child of 17
months has received at least 2 doses of Prevnar. If
not it is a good idea to contact your Pediatrician
about it.

A points I remind my clients: Remember that bottled
water is not necessarily 100% bacteria free - anywhere
in the world. Good idea to have that boiled before
mixing feeds.

With specific reference to India, I'd say : Be
prepared for a crowd and related items shock when
you first land.  You will get used to it by the time
it is Day 3, and love it before it is time for you to
return to Spain.

With your name in mind, I assume you are Goan and that
you have family. That should make it even more
enjoyable for you ...esp in the villages which have
not been subject to the degredation of the past few
concrete and plastic degredation

good wishes

jc

PS: Please write to me after your flight back and
advise me IF you found the travel advisory helpful 
IF  it would benefit from some modifications.




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[Goanet] The married priest

2005-10-02 Thread cornel

Very recently, I attended, a  Roman Catholic wedding ceremony in London. It
was between the daughter of a close Managlorean friend and her English 
groom.
At the church service, the English priest seemed remarkably humorous in his 
advice to the couple and he  also seemed incredibly well informed about 
sexual matters and the ups and downs of married life. My wife and I simply 
assumed that as a celibate, he was perhaps particularly well read on such 
matters.


However, at the wedding reception we learned that the priest was indeed a 
married man. Apparently, he had been so for many years, as an Anglican 
minister with a family but  had now opted for Catholicism and had been 
accepted through special dispensation/permission  by the Vatican to practise 
as a Catholic priest.


I now wonder if there are many more married priest practioners in the 
Catholic Church, in Goa and across the world.  Personally, I have always 
wanted Catholic clergy to be able to live normal lives as married persons as 
was the case in early Christian times. There are many reasons for this view 
but which I will not spell out for now, but hopefully, Goanetters will 
respond to my view as stated above. I am also keen that women should be able 
to become priests in the RC Church.


My bigger question is to ask why the Catholic Church is seemingly secretive 
about the matter of married priests?

Cornel DaCosta, London, UK.





[Goanet] RE: Save Konkani from Konkaniwadis... a plea against puritanism

2005-10-02 Thread jose colaco

Joseph Zuzarte
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The proponents of the different types of Konkani should take a look at the 
English language. Every year the language keeps growing by the simple 
process of adding new words from other languages, including regular 
incorporations from Hindi and other Indian languages.



Well said Joseph.

We can all learn from How the English language has come to prosper, and How 
Latin and Sanskrit joined Pali etc into semi-oblivion.


The sad part about it is that those who claim to be fighting FOR Konkani are 
actually killing it by way of suffocation..and those same Konkani-Mogis 
don't have the sense to understand that.


We ourselves have an outstanding project (since 2004) to collate Luso-Goan 
words which have been decapitated forceably from Konkani - never mind the 
fact that Goans still use them in their spoken Konkani.


The hope (I am told) is that once this generation departs, the next 
generation wouldn't be the wiser anyway. and that those Luso-Goan words 
will disappear by way of suppression.


So, I suggest, will spoken Konkani.

And the same Konkani mogis will wonder WHY Goans use English in their day to 
day activities instead of Konkani


just my view

jose


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[Goanet] Windows XP Konkani Language Interface Pack

2005-10-02 Thread SACHIN FILINTO
Hi Frederick,
Here is some information you might want to distribute
out (For windows xp users).
Last week Microsoft released a language pack for
konkani(devnagiri script). It can be downloaded from

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=kokFamilyID=0db2e8f9-79c4-4625-a07a-0cc1b341be7c

- Sachin



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Re: [Goanet] Disappeared on oherald.com?

2005-10-02 Thread Bernado Colaco
Constantino thanks for find the article

B. Colaco
--- Constantino Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 Dear Bernardo,
 
 is this the article which you say disappeared on
 Herald website?
 






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[Goanet] Do you have small personal jobs to be done in Mumbai?

2005-10-02 Thread joseph fernandes
I came across the following advertisement, in The
Examiner and reproduce the same, for the benefit of
our members.

Quote

NRI/Out-of-Towners
Dont come down to Mumbai for your small
personal jobs.
Contact us instead.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

unquote



Joseph Fernandes
Mumbai

NB: I do not vouch for the claim of the advertisers,
and am posting this to bring this facility to the
notice of our members.




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[Goanet] Remedial Teaching Or Money Spinning? (Bindu Vaz)

2005-10-02 Thread Goanet Reader
Remedial Teaching Or Money Spinning?

By Bindu Vas, SAR NEWS

There are two types of birds that are found in the desert.

The vultures -- that look for dead and rotting meat. They thrive on such
food. The other is the hummingbird -- which looks for desert blossoms on
cacti and other plants.  It survives on the nectar from such flowers.

One looks for death and decay.

The other looks for life.

They both find what they are looking for.

We all do!

This is a little story that has influenced me much in life. And I
constantly ask myself the question whether I am like the vulture or like
the hummingbird. I now ask whether our schools are like the vultures?
Looking for dead and rotting meat -- like dyslexia, attention deficit
disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, autism, weak visual
recall memory? Learning disabilities is the term given for these
problems.

I am aware that these are fairly serious conditions and timely
intervention in terms of diagnosis and remediation can facilitate
development of the child’s mental faculties. This is not the part that
bothers me. What is alarming is the number of cases that are cropping up
in private schools (especially the elitist schools).

Remedial teaching is the buzzword in such schools. There are innumerable
cases of children going to these schools who are found having learning
disabilities like ADHD, ADD, weak visual recall memory, etc.

Needless to add that such students require some very expensive remedial
teaching -- which is of course provided by these schools.

Of course, I understand that with the progress science has made, we are
lucky to be able to find out early in a child’s life what his
disabilities are and provide support to enhance his skill in that
particular area.

My concern is the people who are diagnosing these disabilities -- in
schools. Are they qualified to form such opinions? My concern is also
for the parents of these children who are called learning disabled –
they take the word of the teacher as the truth and probably jump at the
option provided by the school -- which is remedial teaching.

We first weeded out special children; out of normal schools and herded
them into special schools -- under the guise of they require
specially trained teachers to attend to them.

Now we seem to be putting the normal schools under the microscope again
in order to remove those children who are having difficulty coping with
the archaic methods that are employed to teach them.

In my schooldays, a child was fidgety or very naughty but thankfully
they had not yet come up with phrases like ADHD for such kids back then.
Are we labeling children harshly now than before? Is remedial education
the next big money spinner -- after tuitions?

We all know enough psychology to know that labeling children is the
worst thing parents do (sometimes children label one another) which
affects the self-esteem of a child. We as parents would be indignant if
a teacher had to label our child stupid or dimwit and yet we seem to
be so much in awe of the teachers in an elitist school that if he tells
us that our kid has ADHD -- we meekly nod our heads and seek their
opinion on what can be done about it.

The other point of view that I subscribe to is tell me one among us who
is not disabled in some way?  I mean don't we all seek 'personal
growth' in our lives -- and doesn't that mean we try to overcome those
aspects in our personality that we can change?

Time and again the real life stories I have read or heard about children
(or adults) who overcame big impediments and succeeded in what they want
to do – has been because they (or their parents or teachers) believed
that that person's abilities far outweighed their disabilities.

The belief such people had in them was I will not let my disability
stand in the way of life. 

Let me give you an example that will make this clear:

How was Braille writing invented? When one blind man dreamt about
wanting to 'read' a book!

The point I make is why do we start out by telling a child what is
wrong with him instead of telling him all that's right with him?

I think only when we can accept a child with all his faults -- can he
feel motivated to become all that he is capable of becoming. And when we
label a child as someone with a problem -- the chances that he will
feel accepted despite his disability.

###

Bindu Vaz grew up in Bangalore and elsewhere, and worked in Colombo and
Mumbai before opting for Goa. SAR News is published from Bangalore, and
can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its editor-in-chief is the
Pune-based journalist Michael Gonsalves.

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[Goanet] RTO districts in Goa

2005-10-02 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Does anyone know what are the RTO (regional transport) districts in Goa?
I think there are more numbers than GA01 or GA02. Please see below and
add the information if possible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RTO_districts_in_India#Goa
Regards, FN
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[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Save Konkani from Konkaniwadis... a plea against puritanism

2005-10-02 Thread Goanet Reader
Joseph Zuzarte
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The proponents of the different types of Konkani should take a look at
the English language. Every year the language keeps growing by the
simple process of adding new words from other languages, including
regular incorporations from Hindi and other Indian languages.

So words like bazaar, tamasha etc have been added to the English
lexicon, besides words from other languages which are spoken by a large
number of people in between their English. Soon a Konkani word might
even become officially English. Which will that Konkani word be? And
will it then be outlawed from Konkani proper? Some of our swear words
are already popular with the regular foreign visitors.

Consider this list of English words borrowed from Hindi: Cummerbund
(Hindustani kamarband) meaning waist-belt; chintz (Hindi chint) meaning
spotted cotton cloth; dacoit (Hindi dakait) meaning robber; sorbet
(Hindustani sherbet) meaning a refreshing drink; jungle (Jangal) meaning
forest; loot meaning plunder; khaki meaning dust-cloured cloth; lakh and
crore; sepoy (sipahi); durbar (darbar) and countless other words like
chutney, durrie.

Besides, there are also words from other Indian langauges. 

Mongoose, the killer of snakes and rats, got its English name from the
Marathi word mangus. The English words  coir and betel have come up
from the Malayalam words kayer and vettila, while curry and cheroot
have their origins in Tamil words kari and shuruttu.

Like with other languages, Konkani, too has a chequered history. As the
proponents of the various types of Konkani prove so easily, there are a
number of different types of Konkani all along the west coast of
India, right from the Gujarat coast, down through Maharashtra, Goa,
Karnataka and Kerala.

It is the language of the Konkan people, the west coast of India being
known as the Konkan coast. However, this long Konkan coast has been
part of different kingdoms at different times because of geographical
and historical factors.

So the language of the Konkan people has evolved differently at
different places over the centuries. Even the scripts used are
considerably different. What cannot be denied is that all the different
types of Konkani are recognisably Konkani. What also cannot be denied
is that Konkani -- like English -- has also absorbed a number of words
from other languages.

So today you have some recognisably broad types of Konkani which have
been separately influenced by Portuguese, Marathi and Kannada. English
words like solid, fast, etc., are also loosely used in Konkani of
late (sample: kiden fast cholta; samko solid aha). 

There are also the various types of Kokani spoken by the tribals like
gawdas, kunbis and other communities, all of them with a very distinct
identity. With English it is the people behind the Oxford English
Dictionary -- the Bible of the English language -- who scrutinise
language usage in newspapers, books, and other popular media, to sift
through new words and to determine which new words are to be added to
English.

They also decide on which old words are no longer in usage and should
therefore be dropped from the Oxford Dictionary. This endeavour ahs
been going on for around 600 years, initially funded by the British
royalty. 

A similar thing happens in the U.S., which has its American-English
(now bundled in Windows), the Wenster Dictionary being the bench-mark.

   Who decides which is a Konkani word and which is not? 
   At the moment there is no clear authority which is 
   accepted across all sections of the Konkani-speaking
   diaspora. 

The Konkani taught in schools and colleges is largely irrelevant.
Therefore, each type of Konkani has its own adherents, advocates and
authorities, who not only swear by their brand of Konkani but also by
the script which is most convenient to them (and which may be most
inconvenient to the others). 

There are a number of factors which have bound themselves with what is
essentially a means of communication. Thus, each types of Konkani has
come to represent a certain cultural ethos, regional identity and even
political aspirations. 

Throw is some politicians to stir up the cauldron, and you have a very
potent, emotive issue.

There has always been a clear divide within Goa between the types of
Konkani spoken by the Hindus and the Catholics, though there are also,
obviously, a lot of similarities. But the language issue has always
been politicised. 

In the early years after Liberation there were strong moves by
interested parties to declare Konkani as a dialect of Marathi and to
merge Goa with Maharashtra. But a historic opinion poll in the 1960's
put paid to that move, and Goa retained its separate identity.

Then the Konkani agitation in the 1980's helped make Konkani the
official language of Goa, probably rightly so. So there is now the
movement for official recognition of the Konkani written in the Roman
script. 

That should help rectify the present 

[Goanet] Kator re bhaaji

2005-10-02 Thread Valmiki Faleiro

Thanks to Isabel de Santa Rita Vaz and Cecil Pinto, and ...
at a different level, to Dom Martin ... the story of one of the
greatest Goans, Abbe Faria, is now being remembered
and written about.

However, while almost all stories carried in the local print 
media refer to his dad, Caetano Vitorino Faria's famous 
captioned line, none state (for the benefit of the uninitiated reader)

how the young Abbe got to be tongue-tied on climbing the steps
of the pulpit of Queen Maria-I's chapel at the Queluz palace.

The young priest would not have been expected to be seized
with stage fright.  He had, after all, delivered a homily to an
audience no less distinguished than Pope Pius-VI himself and
the princes of the Church, at the Vatican's Sistine Chapel.

For this sermon at the Queluz chapel, the young Abbe 
had prepared himself well, or so we are told (and probably 
rehearsed his delivery several times over)...  

But when we went up the pulpit, he was suddenly overwhelmed 
at the sight of the royal entourage !  And failed to find the words

he had so well prepared himself for.

The father, who was standing by the pulpit below, quickly
sized the situation and, in an audible but incomprehensible
tongue to the distinguished audience, uttered those famous
words, *Hi sogli bhaaji, Kator re bhaaji!*

The son's fumble broke.

And out poured a *Sermao* like the waters of the Mandovi,
during monsoons...



[Goanet] Mae Ti Mae! - Bab Lino Dourado- hache Mae-k Bhettovnni!

2005-10-02 Thread Silviano Barbosa

Dedication to Mothers!

Mae ti Mae

Aiz Lino Bab Dourado-hachi Mae-chea mornachea nimtan ho mhozo supurlo lekh 
haunv amche sogle Mae-ank bhettoitam. Adleo Mae-om gharant kam kortaleo pun 
aplea bhugeank bore bhaxen voir kaddtaleo, bori dekh, bore gunn xikoun ani 
xikpacher ton-mon-dhon dovrun.
Hakach lagun, sogle amche Goenkar bhau-boinneom voir sorunk pavleo pun atam 
tanchea natvank mat hachi khobor kaim nam.

He Mae-ancho tiag vo sakrifis ami konn visrunk nam.
Tor aiz Lino Bab-an roddunk favo nam, pun khuxalbhorit aple Mae-k vida vo 
adeus korcho, hi mhoji magnni.
Lino Bab-ache Mae-n Lino-k borem xikop, adar ani dekh dili ti ghevun Lino 
Baban zaitem fuddlem xikoup kelem ani Konkani Bhaxechi udorgot keli ani 
aplem boroup korun sabar potrancher, internet-acher fankarlem.
Tor teo adleo Mae-om atam sompun gueleo. Atam noveo Mae-om toear zaleat jeo 
offisant kam kortat ani tankam titlo vell mellona aplea bhurgeam thaim vell 
sarunk. Atam sogleank stress zata hea amchea modern sounsarak lagun. Adim 
stress ami polleunkuch nam. Ekdom toddeo bailo pixeo zataleo, tankam 
‘nervam’ zatalim. Toch ‘stress’ zaun also. Pun atam soglea gharank stress 
zata. Hantunt konachoch guneam nam. Stress bexttoch zaina. Taka karann assa. 
Sogleanim somzun vorunk zai, ekamek vollkun ghevunk zai. Pun ho sounsar 
‘ideal’ nhoim. Ami ‘practical’ sounsarant  jietat.

Pun tem kiteim zaunv, ho sounsar mat bodolcho nam!
Devan Lino Dourado- ache Mae-k sorgimchem sukh dilear puro mhun magtam!
Tichea otmea passot ek A.B.N.M. mhunnunk vachpea laguim magtam!
Lino Bab, tuje Mae-cho omor ugdas tujea kazant sodanch urtolo!


Silviano Barbosa
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[Goanet] MONORAIL: DELHI MAY LEAVE GOA STANDING

2005-10-02 Thread Philip Thomas

Delhi seems to be going full steam ahead on a monorail project. It appears
to be veering towards Japanese technology for this purpose with Hitachi
being the front runner in the race to bag the project. Since 1964, Japan has
reportedly built 11 monorail systems for mass transit in its cities,
representing a truly concentrated body of experience with the technology.

Like Goa, Delhi is interested in a 40-plus km corridor though this will
serve primarily as a feeder to the Metro (while Goa's will piggyback in a
high risk way on its existing life-line, NH-17). In addition Delhi may go in
for a 15 km pilot project in the Walled City, the constituency of the
city-state's Transport Minister. (Our transport minister's experience is
with a ride on Sydney's monorail).

A couple of other issues on which Goa's plan seems to differ from Delhi's:

1. Goa plans to use CNG. There is no information about whether the Japanese
system uses this fuel.

2. Goa wants the private builder to foot the bill and recover the cost from
toll charges. Delhi is considering whether it can approach the centre for
financial assistance.



[Goanet] What are we painting black? Goa or it's Government?

2005-10-02 Thread Lawrence Rodrigues
See
http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/city/2005/october/120096.htm

Goa: Plastic in the neighbourhood too
   By: A Mid Day Correspondent
   October 2, 2005

Dear Editor,

I am surprised to read about the alleged cleanliness of Goa and its plastic free
policy (Sunday Mid Day, September 11, 2005).  At the moment Goa is facing a
garbage crisis.

The city of Panjim is foul with the stench of garbage. National Highway 17 has
become a dumping site.  The beaches are repositories of garbage and plastic
bottles.

Though there is a ban on the microns of a lower level, it has not reduced the
quantity of plastic used.  In fact, there are larger mounds of high micron
garbage bags now in Goa.

If one reads the current issue of Goa Today and looks at the photographic proof,
anyone can see the truth.

Goa is on the brink of a garbage mismanagement disaster created by successive
governments and corrupt politicians.  The risk of epidemic and unsightly garbage
will ensure the end of tourism for Goa.

Please support concerned Goans and protest against our sussegado government who
do not care for Goa’s future.

Just as the liberation of Goa began in the Bombay diaspora, I appeal to all
Goans in Mumbai to support us to eradicate the garbage problem and call for a
ban on all plastic (bags, bottles and tetrapack).

Thanks you for your concern and support.

Wendell  Rodricks

Goa’s CM replies

“I do agree that there is garbage problem in our state and the plastic menace is
yet to be fully eradicated. However, we are working towards it and are looking
at solutions for the recycling or shredding of plastic. We have also sought to
look at plastic for road repairs, a model that is being implemented in other
states. However, we are much better than other states.

“People are equally responsible for the so-called mess in Goa. People are used
to keeping their own backyards clean and dumping in the neighbours’ yard. There
has to be a change in perception from all sides.

“Tourism will be affected in our state as garbage paints a sorry picture for us.
But we are trying to get this problem resolved. So far there have been no
agitations.”




[Goanet] A Goan's unusual path to success in New York

2005-10-02 Thread VABaliga





http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/02/magazine/02martins.html

October 2, 2005So the Jains, They Have a Problem With Beef in the School Lunches. Who 
They Gonna Call? 
By SUKETU 
MEHTA

It was the night of this year's New York primary, and when a billionaire like 
Mayor Michael Bloomberg holds a party to celebrate his candidacy, it's no small 
affair. The spacious ballroom of the Marriott in downtown Brooklyn was 
overflowing with free beer and pigs-in-blankets, and a band revved up the 
throngs of supporters. "We love Mike! We love Mike!" they chanted. Among the 
supporters was Alex Martins, a goateed Indian lawyer in a business suit and a 
Hawaiian shirt. He was flanked by three fellow Indians in shirt-sleeves who 
looked a little lost. Martins waved a big blue Bloomberg poster enthusiastically 
and joined in the chant; his entourage stood around silently.
Martins's companions were wearing "Mike '05" buttons, but it was safe to 
assume that they had little clue what the mayor's political platform was. They 
were at the Marriott because, being relatively new immigrants, they wanted 
things "fixed" - visas, jobs, business permits - and Martins is a master at 
this. If Martins was attending the event, they would join him. They told me they 
don't have much trust in politicians because they had known the ones back home 
in India. ("Politicians are like creatures," one of them, a computer programmer 
from Mumbai, said. "They're like sharks.") But they were hoping that through 
their association with Martins, who is on the board of the New Era Democrats, a 
political club that has endorsed Bloomberg, they might see some results. Martins 
is a slim, dark man of 40 who looks understandingly at you over the top of his 
glasses as he speaks. "Within this week I will solve your problem" is one of his 
favorite phrases.
When I first asked for his card, Martins gave me four. One identified him as 
an immigration and personal-injury lawyer affiliated with the firm Frenkel, 
Hershkowitz  Shafran. A second card testified to his role as C.E.O. of Ara 
Global Trading, "Importer and Distributor of Exclusive Wines." Two others 
actually belonged to his wife, Maureen Martins, D.D.S., of Bright Smile Dental 
Care in Flushing and Valley Stream, N.Y. ("We love to see you smile.") He 
frequently conducts business out of her offices.
Martins is not a high-profile mover and shaker in New York City politics. But 
he does play a role in helping to meet the needs of many of the city's residents 
- particularly South Asian immigrants. He is a fixer, an expediter: a link 
between the vast, anonymous, forbidding face of the system and the immigrant 
cabby or student or maid, perhaps without papers, fresh off a long-haul flight 
at J.F.K.
In the absence of powerful elected officials - there's not a single South 
Asian holding a major elected office in New York - the Indian community has to 
rely on other conduits to power. Martins fills that role by running a favor 
bank, brokering the barter of services - for instance, a largely Indian taxi 
company agrees to distribute campaign literature in return for his intervention 
with officials on the Taxi and Limousine Commission. Martins's fees are not made 
explicit, but the people who come to him are more or less aware of what they 
need to do to pay him back, because they come from countries where the trading 
of influence is necessary to survival.
Historically, every immigrant group that has come to New York has relied on 
people like Martins: a man of connections, a man you call when your son is 
caught shoplifting or your cousin needs a visa or your nephew needs a city job. 
He is not a politician - not yet, at least - but he is a political creature. He 
is the representative who helps new immigrants reach their elected 
representatives.
For the politicians whom Martins deals with, the benefits of helping a new 
immigrant are often not immediately apparent, because most of the immigrants are 
not citizens and can't vote. But some of these immigrants have money, and many 
of them will, eventually, become citizens and remember who came to their 
assistance when they were new to the country. The politicians are also keenly 
aware that New York's demographics are changing. This year, for the first time 
in history, non-Hispanic whites make up a minority of the city's voters. Which 
means that every New York politician seeking citywide office now has to form a 
coalition: no one can win on the basis of appealing to a single voting bloc, 
whether it's whites, blacks or Hispanics. Politicians will need the support of 
the Jains, the Catholics from Goa, the Sikhs - all the people who turn to 
Martins to get things fixed.
"How's the sick and the dying?" Marty Golden, a New York state senator, 
asked Dr. Narmesh Shah on a recent summer day, walking into a pizza parlor next 
to Golden's Brooklyn office in the 22nd District in Bay Ridge. Martins, who was 
sitting with Shah, had arranged this 

[Goanet] OBITUARY - ANTONETA DOURADO (Utorda - Goa]

2005-10-02 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
OBITUARY 
Antoneta Dourado (Utorda-Goa)

Beloved wife of Martinho Filipe, mother/mother-in-law
of Roque/Ignesia, Vincente/Celeste, Lino
(Kuwait)/Conception, Xaverinho/Virgilia (Germany) -
expired on 2nd October 2005.
Funeral will be held on 4th October 2005 at 3:45 p.m.
at Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Utorda, Salcette - Goa.

Friends and relatives kindly accept this intimation.
Eternal Peace grant Unto her oh Lord 
And let Perpetual Light shine Upon her.
May her soul rest in peace.


Goa-World.Com Team (Kuwait/Worldwide) conveys their
heartfelt sympathies to Lino Dourado and his family.




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[Goanet] Boost cashew production through better seed

2005-10-02 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears,

It would be nice if our dear Chief Minister took time to read the Project
Report prepared for the Government of Goa in 1995 when Mr.Vivek Rae was the
Agriculture Secretary of Goa. The report has everything in it that needs to
be done for the crop. A Cashew Cell headed by an Assistant Director of
Agriculture was created in the Directorate of Agriculture with two Project
officers [for North and South] to implement this project. The project is
largely financed by the Government of India through the Directorate for
Cashew Development based in Kochi [ Cochin] with scientific back up from the
National Research Centre for Cashew at Puttur [near Mangalore] and Regional
Fruit Research Station-Vengurla[ just North of Pernem] of the Dr.B.S.Sawant
Konkan Krishi Vidyapeet, Dapoli.

The need of the hour is not technology and finance, but actual field work. I
have been involved in the project and the creation of the two cells[ the
other one is for Coconut] during my stint in the Head Office of the
Directorate of Agriculture at Panaji [1993 to 1996]. The best commercial
cashewnut variety for Goa then was Vengurla-4 from RFRS-Vengurla. It was the
best in the Orwellian year 1984, when it was first introduced in Bicholim
where I served as the lowest rung officer implementing the scheme for cashew
are expansion with the current Director of Agriculture, Mr.Ramesh G.Joshi as
the Horticulture Development Officer who took the risk of introducing 10
cashew grafts then worth Rs.10/- each in the place of a 100 cashew seedlings
worth Rs.1/- each. The implementation of the project for grafts was demand
driven from then till about 1994 when Dr.Willy as the Chief Minister forced
the trebling of targets when Mr.P.K.Desai was the Director. Since then it
has largely been a paper scheme to spend good money and produce bogus
statistics. Even the officers from the cells are used for work other than
cashew [or coconut] which is by far the biggest economic crop in Goa.

 We do not need mechanisation of cashew shelling. It is the best employment
generator for skilled women in poverty-stricken rural hinterland Goa,
including Rane's constituency of Poriem. The iron-ore mines cannot employ
these girls and dance bars are not yet a craze in Goa, though bar girls are.

The Goa Government needs to get its act together to get a GEOGRAPHIC
INDICATION for feni on the lines of Mexico's tequila and French champagne.
May be it can work on cashew and kokum wine, too.Perhaps on Goa Butter[
bindnell] from Kokum seeds which is finding all types of applications in
cosmetics and confectionery. It could also create mother plant blocks for
Goa-1 [Balli-2] cashew identified and sparingly multiplied by a research
organisation ICAR-Goa, which has been doing work well beyond its mandate
because the local government is not doing its bit. We do not have an State
Agriculture College and the Vocational courses in Horticulture started in
1997 are dying because the job opportunities are not being created as done
by Maharashtra, which has made their employment by wholesale/retail
fertiliser and seed dealers mandatory as a B.Pharm/D.Pharm is mandatory in a
pharmacy or drug store. There is no financial implication for the Government
in this.

Viva Goa.
Miguel Braganza

 From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 http://news.webindia123.com/news/printer.asp?id=126127cat=India

 Boost cashew production through better seed, technology: CM
 Panaji | October 01, 2005 
 Goa Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane has called for capital investment
 in research and development to secure better seed and technology for
 boosting cashew production and productivity.

 Inaugurating a three-day convention on 'India Cashew Convention' last
 evening in the city, Mr Rane observed that use of extensive labour
 force in the cashew industry might become obsolete in about 10 years
 with the introduction of technologies for efficient peeling of the
 cashew shells to avoid wastage.

 He said there was a need for increasing the acreage of the crop to
 reduce imports of the kernel stock to meet the full capacity
 utilisation of the processing industry in the country, particularly in
 Goa.

 The research, he said, was meant for producing good seed for forward
 and backward integration of the industry involving all the
 stakeholders.

 ''Cashew is a poorman's crop and best for organic farming as it
 thrives even on fallow soil. It replenishes the income of the poor and
 hence the crop should be encouraged in a big way in all respects,'' Mr
 Rane said.

 Speaking on the occasion, Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industry (GCCI)
 President Nitin Kuncolikar pleaded for focussing on value added
 opportunities awaiting the cashew industry.

 This, he said, could be hastened if the state government had initiated
 steps to take advantage of the new Special Economic Zones Act for
 setting up an agricultural Export Processing Zone in the state.

 He also said that the GCCI would