Re: [Goanet] Disinformation
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I used the quotes because I have no idea whether >they apply in any meaningful sense. It's like trying to >gage the sanity of other brutal dictators like Hitler, >Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc, and equally relevent. > I am sorry, I don't understand your point here at all. I am not sure if you are having some kind of trouble believing that Saddam Hussein has a deranged criminal mind. > >The opposition to Saddam's removal and the failure to cooperate >in the democratization of Iraq by many major countries, and the >drumbeat of opposition by the entire left wing community, can be >credited with prolonging the conflict in Iraq, and provides moral >support for the fascists that are targeting and killing innocent >Iraqis. > Are you claiming that the left-wing community is responsible for terrorism and the disaster in Iraq? If so, how are you going to deal with this problem? How will you get rid of the left-wing community? > >There is no evidence that Saddam was anything but cunning and >self centered, which means he had no interest in losing his >cushy dictatorship. > How do you know this to be true? Where did you look for this evidence? > >You can tell Goanetters whatever you like and they can >read the book "Disinformation" by Richard Miniter and >make up their own minds. > Thanks. Here are the answers to my questions about the book, which you refused to give, even though you seemed to have read the book, and you vouched for its credibility and authenticity. I found out that in regards to the items you had circulated here as the dreaded "WMDs", or "deadly weapons", Miniter has simply copied and pasted news reports from the "liberal" media such as BBC and Washington Post websites, even though he is claiming that the liberal media is spreading disinformation, which he aims to expose. In each case he has C&Ped only one news report. He has made no attempts to check how another, "conservative" perhaps, newspaper reported that story. What is worse is that he has truncated the C&Ped material at strategic points to leave out any caveats, and to leave an impression that one is dealing with a potential WMD. Anybody can google his C&Ped material and retrieve the entire article. If you read the entire article, you find out that none of the original sources in the articles he has excerpted are claiming that the items found were the elusive WMDs. Miniter has not bothered to talk to the original sources, nor has he obtained relevant details from the websites of the military and Governmental entities mentioned in the reports. Here are the specifics about each item: 1. The 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and the 1000 radioactive materials were the same ones that the USA Today article reported as being sealed and kept under control by IAEA since 1992. They were not the elusive WMDs. Miniter C&Ps a BBC report for this, and says nothing about the USA Today report. 2. The 1500 gallons of chemical actually turned out not to be a chemical weapon in the actual testing that was done. Moreover, this material was produced after the Iraq war i.e. after Bush's "mission" was "accomplished". 3. The one roadside bomb only had traces of sarin. It exploded close to a couple of soldiers who were not harmed in any way. Only two out of the 17 warheads had some traces of cyclosarin. And all of these things were relics of the Iran-Iraq war strewn around or buried in the old battlefield. Neither Miniter's C&Ped job nor any of the news reports that I retrieved claimed that these were the elusive WMDs. My conclusion from this is that at least as far as WMDs are concerned it is Miniter who is spreading disinformation rather than the liberal media. No-WMD is not a myth as you claimed in this forum. Please let me know if in your copy of Miniter's book things are somehow different from what I found in my copy, or if a conservative perspective makes you see things in a better light. Cheers, Santosh P.S. Personal attacks and insults against me as a result of this exposure of disinformation will be regarded as vindication of my point of view. They will therefore be triumphantly ignored.
[Goanet] Thought for Today
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[Goanet] Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Kallokant Dovorchem Nhoi
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Kallukant Dovorchem Nhoi Halinch hanvem My Wifes Murder hindi film pollelam. Hea filmachi khota oxi. Gorkarn, aplea innocent ghovak dubhavachea nodren polleta ani aillea disa ghorkara thaim kizilam korta. Offisantlea sekretarik gheun bhonvta, nachta osle arop ghalta. Ghovak rag ieta. Ticher nibran tapot marta ani tea tapta barobor sokoll poddtana tichi tokhli khattir aptovta ani thoisoruch ticho jiv veta Hem mornn aksidentant ghoddtta khorem tori pulis khunnacho xiko marta. Tem koxem tem zanam zavpak zonn eklean hem film pollelear borem zatlem. Tea mhonnosor hanv ek lhanxi gozal kortam. Keddnai amchea kazari jivitant dubhavachem patok ubzovlem zalear ami koxe toren tabo (control) dovorunk zai .? Vach fuddem Novinch kazari vhokol-noureak hanga-thoim xezareamger, soirim, mitramgher jevnnachim amontronam astat vo porkodunk vortat. Mhakai bhi, hanv novoch kazar zallom tedna oxech toren eke sanjer xezarchea vaddeantlea ixttan amontron ditana amchea adle ixtt-ixttinnink tannem zomoilim. Thoim chodd promanan pieop, khavop, nachop, fokannam zalea uprant hanv ani mageli sundori ghora portolim. Tum itlo pieta mhonn hanv nokom aslim, magelea paieamchea mei-moche kaddtana sundoren mhonnlem. Polle, amchea lognank dha dis sompleat. Hea dha disam modim disantlean ek vo don bieram gonttleant. Aichea party-k illem odik pottant jiroilem zalear mhaka bebddo koso tharavcho nhoi. Khup tempan ixtt-ixttinio mevlelean hanvem umedhir ghoddie subeij ghetlam asot. Monxean social drink korchem nhoi mhunn oxem hanv sangunk sodinam. Monis pielo mhonntoch, menddu oskot zata. To kitem uloita ani koxo vagtta ti takach khobor asonam. Punn hanv, mhojea bhannar (sintidar) aslom. Hanvem konnacheoch moskoreo kelo nant nhoi mhonn kuleak chimptte kaddunk nant. Dadlo monis pielo mhonntoch thoddeo pavtti ostoreo tancho faido ghetat Come on honey, What the hell are you talking? Mhojea khas dolleanim pollelam. Tujea thaim kosle nokre kortalem poi tem. Tum konnachi khobor kortai? Irvea rongacho blouse nhesslele choliechi khobor kortam hanv. Tujea morean porporot ievn, hoddddem bhagoun, voile bhag purai dakhoun tuka vichartalem. Tujo pump boro asa mure? Atam tori sarko cholta mu? Hi kosli ollxig? Oh no, mhojea tokhler hat marun hanvem mhonnlem. Mhaka kallukant kiteak dovorlem? Mhojea xivai, hea adim konnachoch mog korunk na mhunn sangpak, tuka fottingponn ailem koxem? Tichea vicharan ek Inglix mhonnnichi iad aili. A stitch in time saves nine. Mhojea vixim dubhavachem chitr chitarunk laglelean ani taka rong divnchea adinch mhojem nixpap (innocent) tichea samkara zagounk zai aslem. Pettleli kit mullakuch palloili na zalear vorixtt ujea agtem zait mhunn bhirant asli. Kitem sangttam tem aikun ghe. Mhojem somplea uprantuch, tuka kitem vicharpachem asa tem vichar, hanvem thoddem bhov somzikaieachea avazan mhonnlem ani fuddem uloilom. Bebbeapadd vaddeantli choli ti. Tichem nanv Rita. Metric sompoilea uprant ti Vasco sut-xivoll (tailoring) xikunk vetali ani dispotti (daily) sanjechea so horamcher relvgadhien Mazoddddechea revl thanar dhenvun pondra minutanchi vatt chollun ghora vettali. Novich saikoll ti mhoji. Tinnem ekuch pavtti mhojea saikolir boschem oxem mhaka distalem, ani heach khatir keddnai-keddnai hanv Mazodddechea bazarant vetalom. Punn ti konnachech saikolir bosunk toear nasli. Ti khub sobit distali Rita-geli suropaechi vakhanni keli mhonn, mhoje sundoren laginch aslea arxean nodor ghali. Tigelo sobhov sangtalo, meim bhi sundor hum Somplem tujem? Hanv ogoch asa to pollevn tinnem vicharlem. Na. Fuddem aik. Ek dis saikolichi kapin vazit ani tika hello korit tichea samkara vellean vetana, okosmat apleak saikolir bosoun ghora pavounk tinnem poratlem. Tea vellar hanv khub khos zalom. Sanjecho, ostomti vatten poddchelo suria tea vellar udenti islean uddeta kai diso. Kranch korun saikolicho break damlo ani saikoll ubi keli. Tika saikolichea dandear bosoili ani hanv saikolichea sitar bosun peddalam marunk vetalom, itlean saikolichea fuddlea tubantlean fusss korun varo gelo. Khoimchea vellar saikolin trasant ghalo kai mhunn monantlea monant saikolik xirap ghale. Mhaka loz zali. Varo borcho saikolicho pump ghevn tubant varo borunk iont kortanam thoimsor, voilea vaddeantlo Gabru pavon sorlo. Ritak, takhtinuch ghora pavunk zai aslelean tinnem Gabru thaim upkar maglo ani tachea saikolir bosun mhonnlem varo ghalta to, pump chollta mure? ani tea disa sa
[Goanet] Goa to take on Maharashtra in Santosh Trophy final
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Goa to take on Maharashtra in Santosh Trophy final PRESS TRUST OF INDIA Posted online: Sunday, November 20, 2005 at hours IST KOCHI, NOVEMBER 19: Goa handed out a 2-0 defeat to Punjab in the second semi-final to set up a title-clash with Maharashtra in the national football championship for the Santosh Trophy here today. Medio Peter Carvalho drew first blood for Goa in the 13th minute, while captain Mahesh Gawli sealed the fate of the match with a goal in the 48th minute. The Goans, who have had a dream run so far, scoring 39 goals and conceding just one, could have won by a much bigger margin, but for the poor marksmanship of their forwards. Earlier, the Goans played a pleasing game with short passes and dominated the major part of the first session, while the Punjab team failed to combine well. Strikers Gyan Moyan and Gurpreet Singh struggled to control their shots. The Goans took a little time to settle down. But once they found their rhythm, there was no stopping them, with forwards Freddy Mascarenhas and Anthony Perera repeatedly piercing through the Punjab defence.
[Goanet] Goa: Town & Country Planning ordinance a dead issue: CM
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- T&CP ordinance a dead issue: CM NT Staff Reporter Panaji Nov 19: The Chief Minister, Mr Pratapsingh Rane, today declared that the ordinance amending the Town and Country Planning Act was as good as scrapped and that it would not be implemented, even as he added that a new regional plan for the state would be drawn soon. Mr Rane told reporters at a press conference in the presence of the Goa Pradesh Congress Committee president, Mr Ravi Naik, at Congress House that a new law would be enacted after a fresh bill was discussed on the floor of the state legislative assembly. The ordinance was a dead issue and was as good as scrapped and that it would not be implemented, he said. He also said that the government has acceded to the demand of Ms Victoria Fernandes and excluded rural areas from her St Cruz constituency from the ambit of Planning and Development Authority adding that he was hopeful that she would now not do anything that would hurt the interest of the state. Henceforth, only township areas would be brought under PDAs, he said adding that if any panchayat wanted inclusion of its areas under PDA, the government would consider it. He also said that many things have happened in the state without ordinances. The Chief Minister also said that a bill for amendment of the T&CP Act was already listed for introduction and passing in the last session but was withdrawn by the government because some technicalities were not followed. He also told that Ms Fernandes has been apprised of the government decision. He ruled out threat of disruption to International Film Festival of India saying that it was a prestigious event and no Goan loving the state would engage in doing something that would bring bad name to the state. He also said that anybody trying to disrupt the event would be dealt with as per law. The IFFI event would help in encouraging talents in art in the state and that Goans would henceforth need not go to other places to get exposure, he said adding that scheme for providing assistance to filmmakers was under preparation and would be announced soon. He also disclosed that many agencies, including some media groups, have evinced keen interest in totally funding the future film festivals and that future film festivals would be self-sustaining. The Entertainment Society of Goa had so far collected about Rs 1.5 crore from the sponsors of the event, while the government would spend Rs 4 crore, he added. The Chief Minister said that efforts at making Goa an entertainment hub were on and that the government was considering a proposal of a reputed Indian company which wants to set up an animation studio here. Mr Rane, while replying to a question on whether change of the minister of information and broadcasting would have on Goa being a permanent venue for IFFI, said that the Centre had made a commitment to make Goa as permanent venue and hoped that it would keep its commitment. Replying to another question on the agitation of the taxi operators in South Goa, he said that his government was working to find a solution to the vexed issue. Mr Naik said that said that he welcomed the announcement made by the Chief Minister, excluding rural areas from the ambit of PDAs and restricting PDAs only to urban areas.
[Goanet] Goa: My agitation will continue, says Victoria Fernandes
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- My agitation will continue, says Victoria NT Staff Reporter Panaji Nov 19: Ms Victoria Fernandes, spearheading agitation against the ordinance amending the Town and Country Planning Act, has said that she would continue the agitation against the ordinance and that the mass rally planned for November 21 would go ahead. Ms Fernandes told The Navhind Times that she also welcomed the announcement made by the Chief Minister, Mr Pratapsingh Rane, excluding rural areas of her constituency from PDA, but the announcement fell short of her demand since she had expected its total scrap. She said that since the government failed to meet her demand of scrapping the ordinance and that she would go ahead with her planned rally on November 21, to press for withdrawal of the ordinance. Ms Fernandes also said that people from different parts of the state supporting her would assemble near the Kadamba Transport Corporation terminus around 2 p.m, on Monday and thereafter would march towards the city.
[Goanet] Faster, Higher, Stronger - Steffi Cardozo
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Faster, Higher, Stronger by Sunil L Zalmi Named after former Tennis sensation Steffi Graff, Steffi Cardozo has left no stone unturned in Indias athletic history in general and Goas in particular. She presents a perfect dish of sports excellence garnished with an impressive academic record Born on 16th March 1989, 16-year-old Steffi Cardozo has carved out a niche for herself in various athletic events like Shot-put, Discus throw, Javelin throw, etc. What started as a ripple is, today, taking shape as a colossal wave. Steffi has a superfluity of achievements backing her. She has 13 national medals to her credit which include three gold medals. In November 2003 she set up a new record in shot-put at Haridwar, Uttaranchal, with a distance of 10m 90cm. Supplementing her national level medals are 14 west zone medals which include six gold medals of which one came in September 2005 at Bhopal. Steffi pursued her primary education at Sharada Mandir School, Miramar. At Sharada Mandir within a period of four years she bagged as many as 35 merit certificates in sports, educational and cultural events. She joined Mary Immaculate Girls high school from V to VIII standard and continued her education in St Marys Girls High school from IX to X. I remember having participated in many sports events in 10th standard and balancing sports with education was a big challenge, she says. But sheer hard work and effective time management saw her come up with 73 per cent at the Board exams. Surprisingly, Steffi wanted to be a dentist and she had taken a step in that direction by joining the science stream at her plus two level. But very soon she realized that she would do better as a sportswoman. Long hours of practice everyday and 8 to 9 tours a year made it almost impossible for me to continue with science and therefore I decided to take up Arts so that I could devote more time and effort towards sports. Making a career in sports is not easy and it becomes all the more difficult for a woman. A girl is hardly encouraged to take up sports as a career. But Steffi defied all orthodox logic. My parents have been extremely supportive especially my father, a sportsman himself who has guided me throughout, she says adding, They are perhaps more elated than me during each of my success. She owes her allegiance to her coaches. She remembers her physical education teacher giving her the shot-put during physical training periods. Steffi has converted the iron ball to gold. All my coaches have played a pivotal role in my success at the national level. Steffi aims high. She wants to win the Asian and World Commonwealth games medals for India and represent the country at the Olympics. But she knows that her journey will not be a bed of roses. To be in the medal bracket one has to take painstaking efforts. A minimum of four hours strenuous practice coupled with extensive training techniques is required everyday. Diet needs to be kept under check as proper nourishment is a prerequisite. Steffi took her initial training in Peddem, for two years and later under the day boarding scheme at Panjim under Sports Authority of India. Currently Steffi has shifted to Center of Excellence, Patiala, for advanced training. She is receiving training under Mr Jugraj Singh, former Olympian and Asian Medal winner. Practice, practice and more practice, she says, is the only mantra for success at the national and international level. Steffis efforts have paid off when one considers the plethora of medals she has won at the national and the west zone levels. It did not take long for her talents to get noticed and appreciated. She was conferred with the National Child award for exceptional achievements in sports by the ministry of Human resource development, New Delhi in August 2005. She was adjudged best sportswoman of the year by the Sports Journalists Association of Goa in 2004. She was also felicitated by the Lions Club of Candolim, Alto Betim Jaycees, Kala Jogi, etc. When people recognize and appreciate me I feel fully active and enlivened. I feel it worth the effort. Routine work can sometimes get boring. Appreciation and encouragement makes all the difference, she says with gratitude in her eyes. Athletics is not very popular in India. Surely, not as popular as cricket or football. Steffi feels that the chief reason behind this is the lack of remuneration paid to the athletes. A cricketer or a footballer is paid
[Goanet] Church, Mixed Marriages and Interference
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Responding to a post Ryan Figueiredo made today on the Church and "mixed marriages' I think he was spot on when he said: "The Church is becoming increasing irrelevant for young people and it is shortsighted and insensitive directives like these that only alienate them further". I agree. I used to regularly 'attend' Church like any other (Goan) Catholic. However, events that happened here in the UK - in my own parish, (and elsewhere, globally) has changed my 'belief set' about 'religion and priests'. Issues like child abuse and other 'wrongs' (by their own standards), led me to believe that any 'organised religion' was made vulnerable by its own 'human beings' (priests). Where hypocrisy may exist, I don't know - so I now don't think it necessary to "attend' Church. I do actually have a 'faith' based belief, where I pray to God in "my own way'. Church going for me has become irrelevant. Rome can be very stubborn when it comes to dealing with a modern evolving world. They are alienating themselves and they don't seem to care. Why should we? The Churches stance on this mixed marriage issue is certainly not going to gain them any brownie points. It is even discriminatory and undermines people's ability to make their own life decisions that matter to them. The Church does not 'own people' to issue diktats on their lives! Best of all, if one is in this situation, one should do what feels right for them, without 'outside' pressure. God knows, a mixed couple planning to marry will sometimes have enough 'hassle' from their own 'pigheaded and bigoted' family and friends...let alone the Church! Sam Fernandes
[Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 214
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Fausto wrote: Eddiebab, Hea gitachem nanv zaunk zai 'Baltu To Hanv' Earlier Domnic bab wrote: The name of the song is UPKAR KORAT. Agree the name is Baltu but one song 3 names? Which is correct one? Appreciate the corrections, as I said earlier these lyrics have been written on hearing from audio cassettes that I have here. The two audio cassettes (Lorna & Konkani film songs) that I have are very old ones and the music n words are not very clear as they are copy of Thompsons from the original with licence. Even the Alfred Rose oldies its the same problem. Am sure you must have noticed that the old konkani songs cassettes the sound clarity is not so good compared to the re-made ones. Rgds Edward Verdes
[Goanet] Great Goan scientist bronzed
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- This news appeared in 'The Examiner' - www.the-examiner.org of 12 Nov 2005 The installation of a statue in bronze in Bandra, Mumbai is the tribute India is paying to the great Goan scientist, Dr Norman Francis Lewis. Dr Norman Lewis, the grandson of Dr Daniel Lewis of Parra, reigned supreme at St Stanislaus, Bandra, where he did his schooling. After his B.Sc. (Tech), he joined Bhabha Atomic Research Centre in 1962. The central government deputed him to Oregon State University (USA), for his Masters. His path-breaking thesis, discovering 'Micrococcus Radiophilus' - the most radiation-resistant bacillus known to man, earned him his doctorate. A pioneer of the food irridation programme, which was instrumental in saving the country millions of dollars worth of foodgrains, Dr Lewis was also part of the team which developed the vaccine against the dreaded Salmonella. At BARC, he headed several departments like micrbiology, food technology and enzyme engineering. At the invitation of United Nations bodies like the FAO, IAEA and the UNO itself, Dr Lewis represented India at several international conferences and symposia from 1974 at Seattle, Munich, Manila, Tokyo, California, Las Vegas, Denver and San Diego. His achievements earned him a place in prestigious publications like 'Who's Who in the world' (1982), 'Who's Who in the Commonwealth', International Book of Honour', 'Men of Achievement', 'Dictionary of International Biographies' and 'Profiles of Eminent Goans'. Dr Norman Lewis was tipped for the Nobel Prize for his discovery of the vaccine against cholera, when the untimely death in 1985 of this great servant, robbed the country of this rare honour. His wife, Ms Pramila nee Fernandes from Betalbatim, who studied at Carmel College in Goa, teaches at Mumbai's Sacred Heart High School, Santacruz, and despite being traumatised with widowhood very soon after marriage, has done a remarkable job in carrying forward her husband's vision of academic excellence with their daughter, Rosanne pursuing her postgraduate degree in Statistics at Mumbai University and their son, Newton, seeking a degree in Computer Engineering at the University of Arkansas. She also works with the Lewis Family Trust. In recognition of the services of this celebrated son of India, BMC had in 1994 named the road in front of the Lewis family residence in Santacruz as Dr Norman F Lewis Chowk. Eleven years later, and in his 20th death anniversary year, a grateful country is honouring him with a statue at the Norman Francis Grounds, a sports haven for the public that the Lewis Family Trust maintains in Bandra. All permissions for the installation of the statue have been granted and have been passed in the BMC House. The Collector (BSD Mumbai) has granted the permission for the erection of the statue. All police clearances have been obtained and finally the GAD Mantralaya has given their consent to install the statue of Dr Norman Francis Lewis. === Cheers !! Joseph Fernandes Mumbai __ Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/fabmall/index.html
[Goanet] Re: accidents in Goa
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Mabel, Presently Rotary club of Birmingham Uk is working with the Rotary clubs of Goa to improve the road situation in Goa. Read more about it on http://www.saving-lives.org/index.htm Sorry about your loss earlier this year. Accept our heartfelt sympathies. warm regards, Jen == From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] accidents in Goa I would like to lend my support to Kenneth Barbosa's study on fatal accidents in Goa. I hope all Goans in and out of Goa will get involved. The crux of the situation is what the government and police are doing to prevent such incidents. The way motor-cyclists rush on regardless show no respect for life. My own husband was knocked down, suffering only a hair-line fracture. But the doctor prescribed five medications,despite his on-going medications for diabetes. This resulted in his death in Goa this year. The issue here is how can speed - limits be imposed and how can offenders be brought to task. Perhaps the Lions Club, the Rotary Club, tourist companies and other civic-minded bodies could canvass for safety on Goan roads. With Goa's geograpical lay-out and high corruption in the state, this will prove difficult. But the matter must be addressed if we have any regard for life. Mabel Santos (U.K.) = *~Jen Birmingham UK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VascokarsUnited/ *~Jen Birmingham UK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VascokarsUnited/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: "UDAY BHEMBRE's ROAD MAP TO HELL" by Godfrey Gonsalves IX
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Mogall Prof. Borges, I may be wrong but I'm sure you are aware that over the years most of Goans sp. south goa, catogorise spoken Konkani also in two groups.. .i.e. Romi and Devnagri...By Romi they mean Konkani the maim bhas.. that was spoken at home (Cristao) and the one that has some Portuguese words.. by Devnagri konkani they mean the konkani which has the new words (either Marathi or the konkni words of Konknem). Cristao usually say konkneali bhas or Devnagri konkani. I know this is not officially correct but that's the way it is, like we used to call 'Konknem' for Hindu brothers those days although we are all Konknem. And that is why they say the Mando, Dekni khell n tiatr are forms of Roman Konkani or written in Romi. So far I have not seen Devnagri konkani on the entertainment field but agree the Church has adopted the Devnagri Konkani. > The same mistake is made by people who say that > Mando, Dekhnni, Tiatr are forms of Roman Konkani. > But this is absurd because these are PERFORMING ARTS. > The spectator uses his EARS to hear the words that the > performers speak or sing; THE EYES ARE USED TO WATCH > THEIR MOVEMENTS. He cannot SEE what they are singing > or saying. Probably what is meant is that the text of > the dialogues and songs was written in some particular > script. But this is not a necessity. If you are referring to the khells of 60's and later on, which were performed on zomnicher (ground)...these khells did not have written dialogues but the songs were written on cadern (book). The dialogues were just part of the song and each partist had to say their own words relating to the story. Agree some mestres were illiterate, but they had someone who could write the songs, otherwise how was it possible to compose and remember all the songs of not one but 5-6 plays (at one time) without referring to the book even during the rehersals? I hope u are aware how many such songs are there in one play... besides all the partist had to know all the songs... and they were all written in Romi Konkani which is much easier to write. Regards Edward Verdes Chinchinim/KSA PS: In one of your earlier postings you had translated a konkani proverb, (dogs leg) can you please send me the original konkani one as I want to include the same in my proverbs compilations. tks >In the past we had mestres of carnaval khells who were illiterate > and so were the performers. The plays (partes), in > their entirety, were in the mind of the mestre. The > teaching and learning of dialogues and songs was done > entirely through voice. It is true that most, > probably all, Goan tiatr writers use the Roman script. > > S. M. Borges >
[Goanet] Goa: Friday's meeting a failure,claim taxi, tour operators
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Fridays meeting a failure,claim taxi, tour operators BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, NOV 18 Both the tour operators and the tourist taxi operators sounded unhappy over the deliberations at Fridays meeting, terming the talks as a failure. TTAG President, Charles Bonifacio said the tour operators are not averse for a solution to the problem, but maintained that the taxi operators should stop taking the law in their own hands. Today, the Chief Secretary expressed her inability to provide full-proof security to the tour operators. What can you expect from a Government which cannot maintain law and order, he asked. Charging that the Government has failed to resolve the row, Bonifiacio, however, said the tour operators would attend Mondays meeting to find an amicable solution. Meanwhile, President of Goa Tourist Taxi Association (GOTTA), Kennedy Goes said the taxi operators are unhappy over the meeting. The taxi operators have asked for three days of a week to ferry tourists. We hope the Government would agree to our demand in the interest of the sons-of-the soil, he told newsmen. He said the taxi operators would never accept the modus operandi by the tour operators to deploy taxis to transport tourists. We are not against our counterparts from North Goa as is being made out to be some vested elements, he claimed. Goes reiterated that the taxi operators would go on an indefinite strike if their demands are not met within seven days from today. Tourist transport should come to the locals, this is our main demand, he added. GOTTA vice-President, Alerio Fernandes said that 50 per cent of the tourism benefits should come to the local taxi operators. We are not goondas or terrorists, but the tour operators will make us terrorists, he said.
Re: [Goanet] Faster, Higher, Stronger - Steffi Cardozo
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Folks, is there any one on goanet who might have Steffi's contact information? Thanks, Marlon --- Cip Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Faster, Higher, Stronger > by Sunil L Zalmi > > Named after former Tennis sensation Steffi Graff, > Steffi Cardozo has left no > stone unturned in Indias athletic history in > general and Goas in > particular. She presents a perfect dish of sports > excellence garnished with > an impressive academic record >
[Goanet] Playback Singer
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- The male playback singer to sing with Krishna Kale the Konkani song login is Mahendra Kapoor Fausto Cypriano wrote: > > This song was originally sung by Luiza de Saligao and Alfred Rose and later > the same song was sung by Krishna Kal'le, Hindi Playback singer and...sorry, I > forgot the male voice who is also a Hindi play back singer too. So here is the
[Goanet] Fairness Cream
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- BOB's Banter by Robert Clements This article appeared in 'The Examiner' - www.the-examiner.org, of 19 Nov 2005 Fairness cream..! And now theres a fairness cream for men! And before you rush of to chemists to buy one or are already using the one for women, heres a story: His thumb softly rubbed the twisted flesh on my cheek. The plastic surgeon, a good fifteen years my senior, was a very attractive man. Hmmm, he said quietly. Are you a model? Is this a joke? Is he kidding? I asked myself, and I searched his handsome face for signs of mockery. No way would anyone ever confuse me with a fashion model. I was ugly. My mother casually referred to my sister as her pretty child. Anyone could see I was homely. After all, I had the scar to prove it. The accident happened in fourth grade, when a neighbour boy picked up a hunk of concrete and heaved the mass through the side of my face. An emergency room doctor stitched together the shreds of skin, pulling cat-gut through the tattered outside of my face and then suturing the shards of flesh inside my mouth. For the rest of the year, a huge bandage from cheekbone to jaw covered the raised angry welt. A few weeks after the accident, an eye exam revealed I was nearsighted. So above the ungainly bandage sat a big, thick pair of glasses. Well, sighed my father that evening, youll always be pretty to me, and he hesitated, even if you arent to the rest of the world. Right. Thanks. In a culture that values beauty, an ugly girl is an outcast. My looks caused me no end of pain. I sat in my room and sobbed every time my family watched a beauty pageant or a talent search show. Eventually I decided that if I couldnt be pretty, I would at least be well-groomed. Over the course of years, I learned to style my hair, wear contact lenses and apply make-up. Watching what worked for other women, I learned to dress myself to best advantage. And now, I was engaged to be married. The scar, shrunken and faded with age, stood between me and a new life. Of course, Im not a model, I told the doctor with a small amount of indignation. The plastic surgeon crossed his arms over his chest and looked at me appraisingly. Then why are you concerned about this scar? If there is no professional reason to have it removed, what brought you here today? His voice was low and soft. Let me tell you what I see. I see a beautiful woman. Not a perfect woman, but a beautiful woman. Lauren Hutton has a gap between her front teeth. Elizabeth Taylor has a tiny, tiny scar on her forehead, every person has an imperfection, and that imperfection makes their beauty more remarkable because it makes them human. He pushed back the stool and stood up. I wont touch it. Dont let anyone fool with your face. You are delightful just the way you are. Beauty really does come from within. Believe me. Then he left. I turned to the face in the mirror. He was right. Somehow over the years, that ugly child had become a beautiful woman. Since that day in his office, I have been told many times by people of both sexes that I am beautiful. And, I know I am. When I changed how I saw myself, others were forced to change how they saw me. The doctor didnt remove the scar on my face; he removed the scar in my heart..! Still feel like buying your fairness cream? Robert Clements Cheers !! Joseph Fernandes Mumbai __ Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/fabmall/index.html
[Goanet] Are Goan Leaders fooling Goans on Dabolim Airport?
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- The Navhind Times (20-11-05) Leaders fooling Goans on Dabolim Airport Why are you opposed to Mopa airport project? I am opposing Mopa airport project keeping the future of Goa, its people and economy in mind. My opposition to the project is not for my political survival as I am not surviving on politics. I have other avenues to meet my daily needs and that of my family. I am in politics for giving a bright future for Goans and I have been fighting for their rights since I entered politics way back in 1989. I am sure that Mopa airport will not benefit Goa and Goans at large. What are your fears about Mopa airport? I am sure that once Mopa airport is commissioned, the Dabolim airport would be closed for civilian traffic and it would permanently become a naval airport. This would harm the booming tourism industry and also cause inconvenience to the people of the state. But Dabolim airport has been a naval airport for long and cannot be classified as an international airport. Isnt it? No. Dabolim has been a civilian airport all throughout till the navy was handed over its charge for maintenance after liberation and they have been running the show since then. I have authentic information that Dabolim was named as the thirteenth international airport in the country and it should be upgraded to meet international requirements. How can you say that Dabolim is a civilian international airport when all documents prove that it is a naval airport? I have learnt that when Mr G C Shrivastava was the Chief Secretary of the state, he gave a noting to the Centre stating that Dabolim was a naval airport. This I believe is contrary to the facts. However, I have a copy of the gazette issued during Portuguese rule stating that Dabolim was a civilian airport and not as stated by the then chief secretary. The Goan members of Parliament and others concerned did little to impress the central authorities about the facts about Dabolim airport. But Dabolim is to remain as second airport in the state? This is a lie that is being told to the people of the state. Let me tell you that the same assurance was given to the people of Cochin (Kochi) when a second airport under public-private partnership was sought to be built. However, when the new airport came up the old one was discontinued and I am sure that after Mopa airport becomes operational the same thing would happen to Dabolim airport, which would become a naval airport permanently. Dont you think that Mopa International Airport would help Goa and boost its economy? Who says that Dabolim is not an international airport and why do we need two international airports? I want to reiterate that Dabolim is the thirteenth international airport and is a civilian airport. I have enough proof to substantiate my claim. I challenge any one to prove me wrong. Moreover, Dabolim can be upgraded and for this the Navy has to vacate it so that another runway (a parallel one) is built and other facilities required for an international airport can be built. Mopa in my opinion will not be of much help to Goa. Why should Navy vacate Dabolim? When the Sea Bird project was initiated the then government of Goa, headed by Mr Ravi Naik, handed over the entire island of Anjediva, without taking a single pie from the Defence Ministry or the Central Government. The Navy has enough land at its Sea Bird project where they can build an airport to meet their requirements. To force navy to quit Dabolim, it is necessary for all Goans to come together and force the state as well as central government to urge the naval authorities to shift their airbase to Karwar. If government forces the Navy then only it will shift the base to Karwar and we will have the best international airport in Goa. But naval authorities claim that Dabolim is a strategic location and that it would be foolhardy to shift to Karwar? No, that is just an excuse for the Navy to stay put in Goa. According to me the best location for Navy is Karwar. It has been a tradition now that any one who comes to Goa wants to remain here and does not want to leave it. Have you brought the issue to the notice of the Central government, now that you are a Member of Parliament? I have already brought the issue to the notice of the Prime Minister, Dr Manmohan Singh, and the All India Congress Committee president, Ms Sonia Gandhi. They have assured to look into the matter after studying the viability report. Are you going to use you
[Goanet] your date on Monday at 2!
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear All, This is to inform you that there is to be a protest march in Panjim against the Ordinance amending the Town and Country Planning Act on Monday the 21st of November. The march will begin at 2 in the afternoon from the Old Patto Bridge and culminate after walking through the city at the Customs House at around 5 o'clock. It is important that you lend your presence to this demonstration as the Ordinance if allowed to remain spells mockery for the planning process in Goa. As you may be aware, the Ordiance allows for arbitrary alteration of land use and conversion, with power vested in the hands of a single individual. Specifically it would allow for apartment style developments to mushroom all over Goa. Nearly substantiated rumours whisper the origin of the Ordinance in the need to make way for Sahara Ambi Valley's entry into Goa. The impression is being given that the Ordinance will no longer apply since it is held in abeyance. This means nothing legally and is merely meant to lull us into a false sense of security. What we need is a revocation of the Ordinance ab initio. The middle class has been conspicuous by its small numbers and i is imperative that we lend our support to this agitation. Please do pass this message on to your friends and family and be there at 2:30 or anytime before 5. but come!! in solidarity, Jason
[Goanet] OBITUARY: Sidney Fernandes
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Sidney Fernandes, ex St. Mary's High School, Mt. Abu, Rajasthan - Class of 1982 Passed away in Mumbai, India on November 16, 2005 Son of Imelda (ex-Kuwait Airways, Kuwait) and Tony Fernandes (ex-Arab Times, Kuwait) Brother of Caroline Fernandes. Funeral Services were held on November 17, 2005, at Our Lady of Good Health in Versova, Mumbai (Bombay). R I P
[Goanet] Re: Fists of Freedom - Rosa Parks
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only reason you are still waiting is that you > missed my previous response. The reference to the > 60's was a typo, which should have read 50's, as you > correctly pointed out. Mario, I asked you a VERY SPECIFIC question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks After you have read the link, I would like you to tell the rest of Goanet if you have understood in which year the Rosa Parks protest was. Now, either: 1) You do not know how to deal with specific questions of 2) You have not understood the question. Until you are able to come up with a response, the rest of Goanet are affording you the respect you so richly deserve ;-) And you wonder why no one providing YOU with specifics > The point I had made was that > it was now DECADES after Rosa Parks, and your > information about the progress made by African > Americans since then is ridiculously obsolete. The > typo made your information even more ridiculously > obsolete by another decade. Mario, I think you are wasting your time on Goanet. The US is waiting for another hero such as Rosa Parks. A fine mind such as yours could become the envy of every immigrant in the US. All you have to do is concentrated your efforts on improving the lot of your sub-group. Fifty years ago, Rosa Parks insisted that every non-white American should have the same rights as a white American. Rosa Parks was the spark that enabled every non-white American to achieve that dream. At this moment, immigrant Americans such as yourself, do not have the same rights as American born citizens. To be SPECIFIC, you cannot run for all the elected positions in the US. Perhaps, you should sit down somewhere and not move until they give you that right (i.e. unless, of course, you are happy with the rights you do not have.) Mervyn3.0 Alternately, you could always get into your car and drive the three hours it takes to move to Canada. Here, any Canadian can contest any elected post. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Mario's attack on Portugal (a coalition partner)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bosco, let's talk about how this thread started. > > > I > > > was just sitting here, minding my own business, > > when someone named Aquino Noronha jumped out of > the > > bushes to attack me, with a bunch of irritable, > > non-specific generalizations, from Portugal, no > > less. BTW, when was the last time Portugal went > to > > the aid of any oppressed population? Mario, You obviously dont seem to take your own rhetoric very seriously. Portugal was very much part of the coalition of the coerced, along with powerhouses such as the Marshal Islands, Micronesia etc that provided "support" in the invasion of Iraq. In fact much of the final agreements between the so called coalition partners was hashed out at the Portugal sponsered Azores summit that was held a few weeks before the invasion began. In your attempts to defend the legitamacy of the this coalition, you have gone on record on many forums to state that any nation or individual that opposed the invasion of Iraq impicilty supported the islamic jihadis. You had even put the late Pope John Paul in the terrorist camp for the Vatican's opposition to the war. Perhaps you have since changed your mind and like 60% of the American public, no longer believes in the merits of this war, or perhaps you never placed much merit in this coalition of clowns to take it too seriously in the first place. Regardless, once you make up your mind and then figure out a way to elucidate your thoughts without resorting to abuse, you can perhaps try and explain the whole thing to us. Marlon
Re: [Goanet] Re: PLANT UTSAV 2005
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Saturday, November 19, 2005 2:58 AM > > Garcia da Orta was a botanist who recorded the plants available in and > around Goa hundreds of years ago. In addition to the Botanical names and > descriptions, he also incorporated the local names in the local > language...in Roman script, Devanagri and Perso-arabic. It is a pity that we > fight over the scripts of Konkani and about Portuguese contribution to Goa. > Fortunately, Mr. Subhash Velingkar, the undisputed head of many Vidya > Prabodini-linked social and educational institutions and a former advisor on > education to the former Chief Minister,is fluent in both the scripts and all > three languages..Portuguese, Konkani and Marathi...in addition to English. > Garcia would be happy in his Orta [garden] today. > Miguel: Did you write the last line purposely so or was it a genuine mistake? A garden is "Horta" and not "Orta" in Portuguese, while - now referring to the first line - the great botanist's name was indeed "Garcia de Orta" (and not "da Orta"). Thanks for your attention. Best regards. Jorge
[Goanet] Dev Nidonk Nam ani Sui Sut ani Kator ! Miguel Road Road? Konkani and Concanim?
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Arre Edward Verdes baba! Chodd Dev borem korum tuka, tuvem itleam Konkani cantaramche (vers,lyrics) volleo boroileo dekhun. Ani toshench dusrea Goanetter-ank (Joe-GoaUk,etc.) zannim bori cantaramchi 'nostalgia' amchea fuddem haddli mhunn. Edward Verdes bab, tum tuzo cantaramcho book bhair kadd (publish). Zok mar te lipik-bikip. Matshe mistakeo assunk upkaro-nam ani soglea boroupeank (lyricist-ank) man di (credits) mat. Ek cantar zaunk nhozo tem ghoddpean borounknam zalear (Alfred Rose). Saxtti bhashen cantar aslear Saxtti bhashen boroi. Tem Antruzzi-n kelear taji ruch veteli. Pun polle "Channeache Rati" (Antruzzin aslem tem borem dista aikunk). I like "Painshim Maddamchi sonnam" [500 cocoanut shells?] by Minguel (Not Miguel) Road. I think they should name the road in Cortalim To Vasco "Minguel Road(not Rod) Road". This way it gives local genuine flavour, the way people called him.) They should name all village roads to Tiatrists' name. Souza Ferrao Road in Sanvordem. Prem Kumar Road, FRank Fernando Road in Chandor, etc. Aleixinho de Candolim Road, Anthony de Sa Road in Cuncolim Dandora and Robin Vaz Road in Nanguilo, Cuncolim, Rico Road in Dharmapura, etc. Goa Gormet Aik! IFFI biffi bhair uddoi, amchea loacl Tiatristanchim navam jivim dhovor! Tanni amkam khoxechea nadar dovrle, jedna TV- divi video games Goeam nasleo tedna. Ponjecho Tiatrist kon re? Atanche Tiatristanchim navam Bannauli ganvant roste aschenam tim bhorunk! Roseferns Road, Shempia Miguel Road in Benaulim , Shali Bai Road (in Paroda?), Kuddo Miguel in Durga, Chinchinim) Reginaldo Fernades Road in Siolim? Prince Jacob Road in Fatorda? Wilmix Road in Velim, Tomazinho Cardoso in Candolim? and many many others (please don't blame in for not including here, far too many) Basta. Amchi Bhas Goanet-ar polleun jivak soo zata! Panch vorsam adim, sogle let-fett Inglez Goenkar English tastale. Atam soglea Konkani Goenkaramnim "goanet" 'highjack' kelam mhunn varear awaz ieta! Arre amchi bhas ami garant vo dusrea zaguear amkam ieta te bhashen uloumchi. Fokt boroupant mat ek 'standard" Konkanni assunkuch zai. lipi-chi gozal dusrich, zoshi Queen's English. Tem kiteim zaum, atanchi Konkani, zaum ti Devnagri lipint vo Romi lipint amchea sarkea chodd Goenkarank ti kaim somzona. Bhouv korun Igorjent legun, khoim geli ti adli Bhass? Adim mhunttale , "Santa Morie" ti atam zali "Bhagievonti Morie" Atam mhuntta "Sorvesvora Dhonia" , etc. England-ant , Queen English assa , punn Londonkar "cockney" uloitat ti amkam kaim somzona. Punn te Londonkar ti gorvan apli bhass uloitat tea accent-n pun boroitat Queen's English-in. Eka dissa konnem maka England-ant mhullem . "Bloddycoldennem?" Haunv chintunk-u poddlom. Tedna maka konnem sanglem,to mhuntta mhunn "It's blooddy cold isn't it?". Mhaka hansunk eilem. Sodd ti khobor. Ami uloitana ami sodanch uloitat te bhashen ulounchem. Indie-bhaile Goenkar je Konkani ulounk noko, tenka Konkani koshi xinkouchi ti amkam kollona: Cristao-achi adli Concani (Ji Vauraddeacho Ixtt-ar etali ti, sarki potugues utranim bhorleli ti ? By the way V. Ixxt was the first one to change to Antruzzi Konkani after liberation in Romi script) Tempa pormonnem mateak kurponnem) Indiek asleleanim Devnagri shiklear borem zatelem Hindi xikonk bhou sompem -poddtelem dekhun. Bhair lok assa te Konkani khoim uloitat?, fokot amche bhashen assat tech uloitat untti kodden, eklech aslear. Bhaile Goenkar lok fokt Goencheo galleo zanant e.g number 43 Bingo ani te hanstat, titli Konknni te zanant. Mhojim Konknivoilim chintnam atam somplim. *** Atam matshe him vhoilea cantaramche vers matshe pure korun nettar ghal. Kai borem tem kantar "Alfred Rose-achem" jem ami aikotale dhanvon dhanvon vochon tea Titarcho program vo "flyer" ghevpak tia Truck-acherTiatracho Board astalo ani vhodlem funel koshem amplifier, ami Redio mhuntale teka ani tejer cantaram etalim: 1) Dev Nidonk Nam Monshea-kullak rochun osso rostea bhair uddounk nam Devan, . Korench tum fottoita Rochanarak Pun To fottouna mhun tum nokoi... (Kai borem ghoddlelem cantar re) ani her,... ho bhezo sarko gelo fonddant, kaim uggdas uro nam, mae shenddi! 2) Sui sut ani kator Dorjeachem cantar-sarkem besht. St Francis Xavier-achem fest eta dorjeamchem, inga Toronto December 3rd. Arre Edward Verdes, him cantaram khoim mellonant mure. Alfred Rose fattim Toronto eilolo tedna teka dekhun k
[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO:Role of men in the fight against Violence on Women.
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- -- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ -- Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 25th November from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No. 11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa. TOPIC: Role of men in the fight against Violence on Women. SPEAKERS: Open Discussion. We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy ===
Re: [Goanet] Re: "UDAY BHEMBRE's ROAD MAP TO HELL" by GodfreyGonsalves IX
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Regards Edward Verdes Chinchinim/KSA PS: In one of your earlier postings you had translated a konkani proverb, (dogs leg) can you please send me the original konkani one as I want to include the same in my proverbs compilations. tks Eddie, I don't know about dog's leg. But I can contribute you one about dog's tail: Sunneachi shempdi noddin't galear kochis ubi zainna (If you put a dog's tail in a hollow it will never straighten out). Alfred T bamboo it
[Goanet] Some more Konknni songs: H Britton/Platilda/Rita Rose Etc
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- http://music.yahoo.com/track/12886467 http://music.yahoo.com/track/12886602 http://music.yahoo.com/track/12886568 http://music.yahoo.com/track/12886374 http://music.yahoo.com/track/12886400 http://music.yahoo.com/release/12711976 If you find or have any more let me also know. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa & Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa For info on Konkani VCDs (Films, Tiatr, Comedies and films on GOA...) http://konkani-vcd.swiki.net/1 ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Goa: An Ill-Organised Film Festival
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- An Ill-Organised Film Festival by Nandkumar Kamat THE International film festival of India, (IFFI) to be held in Goa, episode II, under the Congress-NCP-MGP ruling dispensation, needs to proceed smoothly and peacefully without any law and order situation. It is fundamentally wrong to hold this festival and the honoured guests of Goa to ransom in the name of any agitation. At the same time it is the bounden duty of the government to create an atmosphere of peace and reconciliation in a statesman-like manner by changing its decisions which are opposed by the people. There is an excellent response from the national and international media this year and that increases the responsibility of the government for defusing the agitation over the TCP ordinance and PDAs jurisdiction. With hardened stances on both the sides, a solution appears difficult unless the Governor himself intervenes for larger public good. If the agitators begin blocking the arterial roads leading to Panaji during the IFFI then it would be a great security issue. If any violence breaks out because of impulsive action by the police then Goa would have to forget IFFI. Imposing Section 144, as some people are advising, would send a wrong signal to the media and the delegates. IFFI 2004, Episode I, the BJP version, also had a controversial start. The then government wasted a huge sum on the Canadian consultants who could not understand the simple problem of drainage along the Mandovi waterfront. Rupees one and half crores for a temporary open-door shamiana for the inaugural function of the IFFI cannot be justified. Obviously it may create several job opportunities. But it would certainly match the disputed expenditure on the renovation of Kala Academy executed during IFFI 2004. Goa has now become famous as the land of controversies. It must have been very humiliating for the superstar Amitabh Bachchan to be told that the invitation extended officially to him by the state government is withdrawn. The Government must sincerely apologise and invite him for the concluding function. Politics needs to be kept out of cultural issues. IFFI needs to be organized with a certain dignity, decorum and discipline to set up new benchmarks in smooth organization. Certainly, all the false starts may prove to be good lessons for future because Goa is now a permanent centre for IFFI. Kudos to ex-CM Mr Parrikar, whose advocacy for the permanent venue has borne fruits. Mr Pratapsing Rane with a proven and secular track record in managing Kala Academy went ahead with IFFI 2005 despite lack of unanimous support from his party colleagues. But a lot of precious time was wasted after the withdrawal of monsoon in rapidly completing the spill-over work on several projects which had been initiated last year. The incomplete footpaths on D B Bandodkar road have become a pedestrian hazard. A small stretch of road near the Santa Inez Hindu crematorium has eroded so much that the area has become accident prone. Some miscreants removed the doors of the fiberglass kiosks near the Mandovi waterfront. The majestic casuarina trees in the Bhagvan Mahavir Childrens park at Campal were mercilessly top worked and pruned contrary to the non violent teachings of the great tirthankara whose statue graces the park. The park is now beyond recognition. Dehydration and infection would kill all the trees soon. A lot of damage was done to the roadside herbaceous plantations between Kala Academy to Betim ferry wharf as people trampled over these delicate beds. Adequate notice has not been given to the campal residents about the traffic and parking arrangements during the festival. Unless the government restricts vehicular traffic at peak hours, this year it would be a very chaotic situation between the old secretariat building to Caranzalem. A major outdoor cultural event attracts thousands of people to Panaji. After the event gets over there is no traffic discipline. I was trapped in a traffic jam in my car for two hours near Bal Bhavan last year after pop singer Remos concert got concluded. To my estimate the event had attracted not less than fifty thousand people to Campal. This year the number is likely to swell for the outdoor events because domestic tourists are also flocking to Goa in large numbers. This also brings with it a considerable security risk. The state government machinery is woefully inadequate to deal with sabotage, saboteurs and terrorists who can easil
[Goanet] Re: your date on Monday at 2!
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Although I cannot personally be there, solidarity with the protestors. Regards, George --- Jason Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear All, > > This is to inform you that there is to be a protest march in Panjim against > the Ordinance amending the Town and Country Planning Act on Monday the 21st of November. > > The march will begin at 2 in the afternoon from the Old Patto Bridge and > culminate after walking through the city at the Customs House at around 5 o'clock. > > It is important that you lend your presence to this demonstration as the > Ordinance if allowed to remain spells mockery for the planning process in Goa.
[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP DAY - Posters needed
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear all: GOA SUDHAROP DAY is being held in California in the San Francisco Bay Area early next year (March 2006, exact day to be announced). We would like to showcase Goan NGO's, non-profits, and similar organizations from Goa and around the world at this event. If you are interested in having your organization displayed, please send up to 2 posters (approximately 36 inches by 24 inches each) and mail by January 31, 2006 to: GOA SUDHAROP 67 KINGSTON ROAD KENSIGNTON, CALIFORNIA USA 94707 Posters should include pertient information about your group and some of the work, including pictures of what you do. You can have someone hand carry it to the USA and mail it here or roll the posters and mail them. These posters will also be displayed at other Goa Sudharop events as appropriate. Thank you. Goa Sudharop, www.goasudharop.org World G.O.A.N. network
[Goanet] Africa Goans - questions
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Some questions - approximate numbers are ok if you don't have exact numbers. 1. How many Goan organizations/clubs are there in Africa? 2. How many Goans in Africa? 3. Is the Goan African population increasing or decreasing? 4. Which country has the largest Goan population? Thanks, George
Re: [Goanet] Re: PLANT UTSAV 2005
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- --- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Garcia da Orta was a botanist who recorded the > plants available in and > around Goa hundreds of years ago. For those wanting more information on this great man, please visit http://www.colaco.net/1/AdmOrta.htm and http://www.vidaslusofonas.pt/garcia_da_horta2.htm. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia (Back after a month's absence on the 'net) Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Goanet News Bytes * Nov 20, 2005 * TCP Ordinance dead... All set for IFFI 2005...
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- ,--,.---..--. .-. .-.,---. ___Estb 1994 .' .'/ .-. ) / /\ \ | \| || .-'|__ __| | | __ | | |(_)/ /__\ \| | || `-. )| |.___ \ \ ( _)| | | | | __ || |\ || .-' (_) |`===' \ `-) )\ `-' / | | |)|| | |)|| `--. | | )\/ )---' |_| (_)/( (_)/( __.' `-' (__) (_)(__) (__) GOANET NEWS BYTES * Nov 20, 2005 * DATELINE GOA * Would you like to see a Goan featured on an Indian postal stamp? Sign the petition at: http://www.abbefaria.com/Petition.htm * Goanet news headlines * November 20, 2005 - Rane declares the Ordinance amending the Town and Country Planning Act dead Issue would be discussed afresh in the Assembly and the Government would take an appropriate action with the consensus of political parties and even the village sarpanches. Plan to make Mopa Goas only civilian airport reveals Churchill Says Union cabinet at a meeting held on March 29, 2000 took a decision to close down the Dabolim airport for civilian use following the setting up of a new airport of international standards at Mopa. Mr Alemao produced a letter of May 1, 2000 from the ministry of civil aviation. Gender sensitive approach to combat AIDS The number of young women in Goa who contracted HIV in 2004 was found to be almost twice the per cent of young men who got the infection in the same age group. Special legislation to solve Mayem evacuee property issue soon: Rane Intends to make education free upto degree level for girl students and further added that the Rural Rojgar Yojana would be implemented in the panchayat areas. Goa learns from past mistakes The powers that be are trying to avoid a repetition of 2004 and have decided to shift the beach screening from Miramar to Caranzalem. There is also a move to provide IFFI with a Goan flavour. Dev Anand, Chiranjeevi to inaugurate IFFI Speculation and uncertainty over the choice of the special invitee to inaugurate the 36th International Film Festival of India (IFFI) came to an end on Saturday. CONTEST: Watch a Movie at INOX theatres and earn a ticket to IFFI 2005 The INOX-IFFI contest gives you the opportunity to be at the 10-day festival without much sweat. One lucky winner from each INOX multiplex. DIG of Police, Ujwal Mishra hints at Possible Security-related Inconvenience during IFFI Goa expects surge of tourists over the next month and half have geared up it's security around the state. Virgin Airlines may enter hospitality sector and fly to Goa "We are also looking at operating to Goa along with Virgin Holidays. It is possible that we start operations to Goa before going to Bangalore or Hyderabad," Mr Ridgeway said. Siemens Medical Solutions expanding Siemens Medical is also planning capacity expansion at its manufacturing plant located at Goa. It plans to add new product lines comprising new generation and regional specific diagnostic machines, including X-rays and CT scans, said Heinrich von Wulfen, president, Asia-Pacific. SPORTS Goa set to regain Santosh Trophy An absorbing tussle is on the cards as formidable Goa, gunning for their fourth title triumph, lock horns with a well-knit Maharashtra in the final of Air-India Express Santosh Trophy football championship at Jawaharlal Nehru stadium here tomorrow. Put on your best-ever showing, coach Mauricio pleads with players "Goa has bright chances of regaining Santosh Trophy and coach Mauricio Afonso (Dempo SC/Chinchinim) has asked the players to give their best-ever performance against Maharashtra in the finals to be played tomorrow in Kochi," stated manager Andrew Fernandes. Protest scheduled for November 21/05 in Imphal, Manipur Protesting referee's decision to re-start Goa-Manipur quarter-final league match, that all but eased Manipur out of the Santosh Trophy tournament played at Kochi. Cricket-England seek venue changes for 2006 India tour England cricket officials have asked their Indian counterparts to consider making venue changes for England's tour of India next year. The seven one-dayers, being played between Apr. 4 and 22, are scheduled to be staged at Indore, Goa, Guwahati, Faridabad, Cuttack, Kochi and Visakhapatnam. OTHER NEWS Goa
Re: Re: [Goanet] Re:UDAY BHEMBRE'S ROAD MAP TO HELL - XIV
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- The word is in reference to the oldest profession. But the point I am making is that the maratha run school was against our Amchi Raj Bhas. We had to learn marathi - Malah aila kantala- I wish Remo had godunk his song 'Concani amichi mae bhas thich amchi Raj bhas" so we youngters could contra this maratha influence. B. Colaço > > And who says Konkani is not a rich language, whether > written > in Devanagari or Roman lipi? Same spelling, what a > world of > difference does intonation make! > > Rgds, Valmiki > > ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Goa: Morcha against T&CP ordinance today in city
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Morcha against T&CP ordinance today in city NT Staff Reporter Panaji, Nov 20: Emboldened by the announcement of some environmentalists and heritage lovers to move the court of law praying scrapping of the controversial ordinance on the town and country planning, the St Cruz constituency citizens action committee will take out a morcha in city tomorrow. On Friday, the Chief Minister, Mr Pratapsing Rane had taken initiative in convening a meeting with agitators in the presence the Deputy Speaker, Ms Victoria Fernandes, who is spearheading the stir to exclude the villages from PDAs. However, the unmoved committee has stuck to its guns on the issue. Despite Mr Rane declaring that the ordinance amending the Town and Country Planning Act would not be implemented, Ms Fernandes said that she would go ahead with the planned morcha. The convenor of the action committee, Mr Mario Oliveira said the morcha would start from the Patto Plaza and culminate near Customs House
[Goanet] TCP ORDINANCE 2005 AND RECONSTITUTION OF PLANNING BODIES -- PART ONE
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- TCP ORDINANCE 2005 AND RECONSTITUTION OF PLANNING BODIES -- PART ONE Almost 13 years after Liberation of Goa the then Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party MGP Government under its second Chief Minister Ms Sashikala Kakodkar, realized that rampant illegal structures, haphazard development activity engulfed the port area then a town (now a city with an A class Municipality comprising Vasco-da Gama and Mormugao) of Mormugao Taluka.. The economic activities at the natural harbour promoted this unplanned growth which appeared to become an eye sore on the Goa landscape. It therefore brought about a bill "The Goa Daman & Diu Town and Country Act 1974" with a view to "regulate development for a better living environment" in tune with the natural ingredients that constituted this tiny territory almost the size of a district in the rest of the country. The role of this TCP Department was meant to be merely of an advisory nature. The Planning Development authorities were intended to supervise the Outer Development Plans or the Comprehensive Development Plans for each planning area. When the Bill was introduced, albeit with sacred intentions, it was clear from the ensuing debate in the Goa Legislative Assembly, which lasted for only three days towards the close of the session i.e on 26th 30th September, 1974 and 1st October, 1974 and the hurried manner with which it was passed assented and notified on 22.11.1975 by Mr Pratapsing Raoji Rane then the Law Minister in the MGP and now the present Chief Minister of Goa heading the Indian National Congress led MGP and Nationalist Congress Party coalition., that there were "other considerations" that expedited its enactment. Mr Ramakant Khalap of the then MGP and now INC ex MLA, too was a party to this enactment. It was assented and notified in the Official Gazette dated 22.11.1975. The 142 provisions in the Act was a near facsimile print of the Maharashtra Regional Town and Country Planning Act 1966., and was expected to wipe out the illegalities in development which not only included Building activity as is commonly believed but had schemes for Traffic and Transportation Plan, Plans for areas around Railways etc and other change of land use and zoning etc. Interestingly many of those that were in the Opposition side viz; Mr Roque Santan Fernandes MLA, Mr Eduardo Faleiro then MLA were apprehensive that this piece of legislation needed to be referred to the Select Committee where both the ruling and opposition members would get enough time to debate on the pros and cons of this piece of legislation taking the public into confidence. Later with similar intentions the INC Government led by Mr Pratapsing Raoji Rane as Chief Minister and head of the Town & Country Planning Board decided to prepare a Regional Plan 2001 so that Goa would be ready for the present century in tune with the population increase projections. Therefore keeping the scarce land resources available ie of the 3656 km2 of land just 0.36 Ha were available for development with the rest as mining forest cover/natural cover etc The surface utilization plan ---was a guideline to planers, to ensure that the development was in harmony with natures gift and maintaing a match with the social economic and physical complexion of territory. Thus after a complete survey plans drawn etc The Town & Country Planning Board approved the same in 1981, notified it in 1982 after it was discussed in the specially convened gram sabhas of village Panchayats the suggestions objections were examined considered by the Government and then notified on 11th December, 1986 . With this the entire 11 talukas of Goa (two of Daman and Diu) was divide into three broad categories a) the Coastal Talukas b) the Midland Talukas c) the Ghat Talukas. Given the 101 kms of coastline with its white sands and the fact that the Portuguese conquests were restricted to the Velhas Conquistas from 1510 to 1961 (451 years) the demographic composition of the Coastal Talukas population density comprised of nearly 52 % of the total population then at just 11 lakhs in 1981 . In fact this region of Coastal Taluka forms the picture postcard of Goa in the minds of the people in the rest of the country and the world as being a region depicting the rich blend of east meets the west. Hence development activity is extensive and scarce land is being sold to the highest bidder. The other regions
[Goanet] The Big Chill
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- This evening I had the good fortune to watch on the History Channel, a TV documentray entitled "The Little Ice age - the Big Chill". This was the climate change which affected Europe from 1300 to 1850. This period coincided with and the TV program suggests led to / aggravated the many other problems that Europe faced during this period including the famines, epidemics, wars and Inquisition. Perhaps a 100 years from now, the current turmoil in the world would also be labeled on world temperature and environment changes rather than on oil, Islamo-fascist, or fits of freedom, etc. Kind Regards, GL
[Goanet] Redifining the Roles of Husbands and Wives in Families - Fr. Peter deSousa
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Redifining the Roles of Husbands and Wives in Families by Fr. Peter deSousa We live in changing times, where very often, both husband and wife work outside the home. Sometimes the woman receives employment outside, and the man looks after the home. Who does all the work inside your home? Parenting by Father and Mother complements the way husband and wife operate. When occasions arise, each one may have to adjust and adapt to fulfil unfamiliar roles. In an emergency, it is amazing how resilient we can be. The home is built on love and sacrifice. Each of us was brought up by our parents to assume certain responsibilities. Marriage provides opportunities to serve and those who have experiences in their growing up years, can put them to good use, when needed. Some women may be practical and handy in repairing and fixing household gadgets, fuses and washers. They do not have to call in an electrician, plumber or handyman. Some men may be able to cook, sew, nurse a sick child with patience and gentleness. Co-responsible partnership between a husband and wife and complementarity in the roles they fulfil, contribute to the peace and harmony of the home. Sometimes the man is away from home for long periods of time due to work and the woman has to assume the roles of both parents in his absence. When he comes back, she has to let him assume the role of father. This is not easy and calls for discretion and humility. Again, after retirement, a man may find he has little to do and is a nuisance in the kitchen or home. How can he feel needed and learn new skills? When one is sick, the other has to assume responsibilities and make significant sacrifices too. Read the rest of this article at : http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/peterdesousa/betterorworse/42.asp
[Goanet] Re: on mixed marriages and short sightedness
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- reading your mail i was flabbergasted. what high (mis)-logic and diction (although mispelt) - it went above my understanding in simple words please read Fr. Anthonys letter to Mid day as i said in my earlier mail we can write a lot of things and blame the priests by sitting in our comfortable homes with our families. --- ryan figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have been following the mixed marriages thingy > closely for a couple of weeks now and i just had to comment...
[Goanet] ENTER MOPA, EXIT DABOLIM (H)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- [GOANET NEWS BYTES * Nov 20, 2005 * DATELINE GOA> The full text of one report on this topic is available at: http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=112026 The one I read was in HERALD and it had the intriguing additional information that the letter Churchill was referring to was "communicated to the Goa chief secretary on **May 1, 2005**" -- i.e after a gap of 5 (five) years!! Some sort of a record in red-tape, right? :(
[Goanet] Re: Konkani songs by the trio: JR. NELSON-ANTHONY-SOUZA BOY! (Reply)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Domnic, Thanks for your article. I watch the Trio Kings (Joquim-Jr.Rod-Anthony) performing in Dubai last Friday in the show "Soglle Bhagivont". They sang 2 songs. One is about Goa politic circus and the other is about the Late Doctor Verekar from Vasco, who was killed by his own Son-in-Law. Here is the Chorus of their song "Dr. Verekar":- J- Ami hem kantar mhunttla mhun thodde amkam dakoitele mhutti, Jr- Ami konnak beioupache na, sott kitem tem uspun khadun mhukar haddpi, A- Chuki adhartat tancher sodanch marlea boddi, hea Tikt'tean fotti sangonk kednach gheunk na duddvache notti. Another trio sung by Leslie-Com.Domnic-Francis de Tuem, in their song they requested the Goa Government to present State award to Mr. Anthony of Trio Kings. Hope the Goa Government will give the state award to Anthony. Long live Anthony, long live Trio Kings. Viva Goa Borgee
[Goanet] Re: accidents in Goa
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Mabel, Presently Rotary club of Birmingham Uk is working with the Rotary clubs of Goa to improve the road situation in Goa. Read more about it on http://www.saving-lives.org/index.htm Sorry about your loss earlier this year. Accept our heartfelt sympathies. warm regards, Jen == From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] accidents in Goa I would like to lend my support to Kenneth Barbosa's study on fatal accidents in Goa. *~Jen Birmingham UK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VascokarsUnited/
[Goanet] Dini Dini : A Konkani Music Album by Bollywood Singing Stars
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dini Dini : A Konkani Music Album by Bollywood Singing Stars www.daijiworld.com presents Photogenic Contest for Mangalorean Girls - Win Rs 25,000 Daijiworld News Network - Dubai Dubai, November 20: During the last decade Konkani has seen a great revolution in Konkani music. There is a large number of singers emerging in the Konkani music world. Some are here to stay and others aren't. Every musician tries to give his best; everyone will try for something new. Innovation will never stop as far as Konkani music is concerned. A number of music albums have been released during this year and many of them have tasted success. Sunidhi Chouhan, Vasundhara Das, Soumya Raoh But, a new experiment tried in Konkani music, by inviting Bollywood-fame singers to render their voices, is now attaining a new dimension with internationally renowned singers of Hindi, Kannada and Konkani singing in a single album. Moreover, daijiworld.com, which has won the hearts of millions of Mangaloreans worldwide, presents this album, which is no less in comparison to any kind of major professional album. Lorna, Guru Kiran Sunidhi Chauhan, a sensational Hindi playback singer, for the first time, sings in Konkani, so as the glamour girl Vasundhara Das. Besides, Soumya Raoh, the girl who has won the music-lovers' hearts with many of her recent hits, along with Guru Kiran, Kannada's hottest and most successful singer and music director of recent times, and Goan nightingale Lorna - they all star in this single album! Rony D`Cunha, Adolf Jayatilak, Warren, Joy Fernandes Also featured are Konkani's accomplished voice Rony D`Cunha from Kuwait and Adolf Jayatilak from Mangalore, Warren and Joy Fernandes from Kuwait, and Alwyn Fernandes from Dubai. Melvyn Rodrigues Songs have been written by none other than the man behind this huge task and the most popular Konkani poet from Dubai, Melvyn Rodrigues. 'Kavita Publications', promoted by Melvyn Rodrigues, has produced this album. Alwyn Fernandes One of the most talented young film music directors of Mangalore, Alwyn Fernandes, has composed and arranged the music for this album. Alwyn has done the music arrangement for the eminent Hindi music director Sandeep Chowta on hit movies such as Satya, Vastav, Mast, Jungle, Shool, Jab dil kisi pe aata hai and Ninne pelladutha. He has also composed music for Kannada music director Guru Kiran for over 8 years and also was the music director for the Kannada movies Jackpot and Praana. The album is set to be released in the first week of January 2006, at the fifth anniversary event of daijiworld.com, to be held on a grand scale in Mangalore. "The recording of all the songs has been completed and the editing work is in progress. The Bollywood singers are really thrilled at having rendered their voices for the first time in Konkani. "It is an amazing experience. I do admit there is a big financial risk involved. But it is an innovative project. We have a clear objective. All the sale proceeds from this album will go for establishing a permanent fund to conduct an Konkani annual poetry competition among the high school students of Karnataka," says Melvyn Rodrigues. "We have put a lot of efforts into this project, a lot of hard work is involved in this. We are grateful to the leading Hindi / Kannada singers who have really spared their time to sing for us. This many number of non-Konkani singers have never been involved in any Konkani album so far," says Alwyn Fernandes, music director of 'Dini Dini' music album. The album producers are looking for distributors in the Middle East and other parts of the world. Those who are interested may contact the producers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 00 971-50-5271175
[Goanet] TCP ORDINANCE 2005 AND RECONSTITUTION OF PLANNING BODIES -- PART TWO
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Following the 73rd and 74th Constitutional amendment which came into force, in 1992 which gave powers to the people in matters of development, through the local bodies the Village Panchayats the Zilla Panchayats and the Municipalites it was obvious that the Planning Development Authorities which were to act as regulatory bodies for the development of land which was notified as planning areas based on the Outer Development Plans or a Comprehensive Development Plans with respect to areas in growth centers viz cities and fledging towns and growth points sub areas, around the cities and towns -- would now have to take into consideration the views of the District Planning bodies which would constitute members of the Village Panchayats and Municipalites keeping the people as the prime deciders of what is best for them the in the village and the municipal areas and the state at large. With this devolution of power to VPs, ZP's and Municipalities it would ensure that the TCP Board under the tutelage of the TCP Minister and the PDAs who are "political appointees" ( many who would not be able to distinguish between brick and mortar or agriculture or fallow land etc ) of the Government in power and who act merely as "licencing bodies" creating obstacles until the money changes hands under cover sometimes overtly oblivious of the regulatory duties and obligations to preserve the ecology and scarce land resources for optimal use , would be placed under the scanner of the villagers or the muncipal limit dwellers and not in these bodies. But successive Governments have failed to devolve powers and only last year a District Planning body was constituted by the previous Government following a petition which is still pending in the High Court of Judicature of Bombay Panaji Bench. Even the Zilla Panchayats have not been given the powers they are to be delegated. True Goa is a small state and it is perhaps over represented with as many as 1650 elected representatives , how could the thought of devolution come about at the risk of their losing their clout over the voters and getting elected for more than a term? Therefore the present TCP ordinance and other developments that has resulted in the agitation by a section of the politicians and NGOs besides others who have the interests of Goa in mind needs to be examined in the light of the above to understand the intricacies and the undercover support it carries, which could well change political equations and shake the Treasury (ruling party) benches in the days to come. The PDA's were constituted first for the Municipal areas growth centers and gradually covered other growth points around the growth centers. On 23.6.1993 the PDA for Vasco da Gama was constituted and the Planning areas notified. On 24.10.2000 the technically constituted BJP coalition Government came to power On 14.07.2003 the North Goa Planning Development Authority PDA was bifurcated into Panaji and Mapusa and 21 and 26 revenue villages respectively were included On 14.11.2003 a re-survey of the whole of Goa under the Goa Land Revenue Code was notified. On 06.07.2004 the Draft Regional Plan 2011 was published it was notified and suggestions invited from the public for two months . This Regional plan is belatedly done . The last was intended till 2001.. On 06.08.2004 the South Goa Planning Development Authority was bifurcated into Margao and Ponda planning areas with 25 revenue villages from Salcete in the Margao PDA and 3 revenue villages in the Ponda Planning area. There was much resentment and protests from the people of Salcette as many villages felt that inclusion in PDAs would make things more cumbersome and money spending. Not that the village Panchayats or Municipalities are any better but there the corruption was apparently "minimal" and proportionate to the spending capacity of the licencee.and this was related to the Building bye laws. On 27.01.2005 the TCP portfolio was removed from then BJP Minister for Town & Country Planning Mr Atanasio Babush Monserrate On 02.02.2005 the vote of Confidence of the BJP coalition government was carried out and in the melee in the august House the INC survived and Mr Rane took oath of office On 04.02.2005 the INC Government's first act was stated to be in "public interest" viz wipe out all the PDAs and the planning areas constituted earlier . This brought treme
[Goanet] JOIN THE MASSIVE MORCHA TODAY 21.11.2005
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- We,at South Goa Public Interest Action Group (SGPIAG) a registered NGO based in Margao,Salcete, South Goa District ,with jurisdiction, at present, over the entire South Goa Parliamentary Constituency wish to extend our whole hearted support to the following demands a) WITHDRAW IMMEDIATELY THE DRACONIAN 29TH OCTOBER 2005 ORDINANCE b) APPROVE THE REGIONAL PLAN FOR GOA 2011 c) EMPOWER THE VILLAGE PANCHAYATS, ZILLA PANCHAYATS, AND MUNICIPALITIES UNDER 73RD & 74TH CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT d) WITHDRAW PDA'S AS DONE ON 4.2.2005 IN PUBLIC INTEREST We need to save GREEN GOA from GOING GREY and to those who believe in these issues and have the interest of Goa in their hearts express your solidarity rub shoulders with all who think alike at the massive morcha to be held today at 1400hrs IST commencing from Pato Bridge into the city. rEMBER ITS NOW OR NEVER. Leave political affiliations aside leave differences aside lets not spite one another for when a wedge exists the third force benefits. Bring placards to express what is in your minds. If you cant make it but feel strongly about it express your concern and conviction vide emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] under copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to enable present a memorandum to the Government on your behalf For SOUTH GOA PUBLIC INTEREST ACTION GROUP Regd No 171/GOA/2000 dt 12.12.2000 sd/- TERENCE MAZARELO PRESIDENT (SGPIAG) 1st Flr Benlix Bldg Opp Fatima Convent Margao Goa India [EMAIL PROTECTED] weblink http://mumbai.sancharnet.in/manojnd FAX +91 832 2712430 HELPLINE (24 hrs) 9822158584 Tel +91 832 2731373 (O) __ Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/fabmall/index.html
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Mopa, ahoy ! (Valmiki Faleiro)
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- --- ALL n SUNDRY By Valmiki Faleiro valmikif at gmail.com --- Mopa, ahoy ! A recent column by my esteemed and respected senior friend, Chandrakant Keni, inspires this revisit to the Goa International Airport issue. Permit me to start in a roundabout way: Why is it that Goans from every caste, creed and colour -- from medicos like Dr. Vithal Shirodkar and Dr. Ernest Borges, from corporate honchos like Victor Menezes and Sumont Mulgaonkar, from legal luminaries like *Queens Counsel* Barrister Nazareth in Kenya and fellow Margaoite Adhik Shirodkar in Mumbai, to the Lata Mangueshkars and the Frank Moraes (the list could go on, ad infinitum) -- competed, and excelled, in their fields of endeavour, outside their native Goa? And why is it that Goans in Goa -- like restaurateurs in Margao who complain against much-disadvantaged streetcorner food pushcarts, or merchants in Mapusa who are vociferous against "Garment Sale" of factory seconds -- fight so shy of competition? Me thinks it is for the very same reason/s why a skilled Goan workman, in Goa, would stand no sliver of hope competing -- on home turf -- with a similarly skilled migrant from Kerala, Karnataka or Andhra. Which is the crux of my misgivings about an additional airport (assuming, without admitting, that another is needed) being located at Mopa, the threshold of Maharashtra. Can an over-priced and over-loaded Goa ever hope to compete with virgin south coastal Maharashtra, once Mopa unveils the virgin to the eyes of the lusty tourist world? I refuse to bite the arguments that Mopa versus Dabolim is a North Goa v/s South Goa issue, or that Mopa will affect tourism only in South Goa. Balderdash! Mopa will, in due course and time, affect tourism in ALL of Goa -- and hit ONLY the small and marginal Goan segment that counts on tourism for its survival : taxi operators, small lodges and guest room hirers, beach shack operators and the small restaurateurs, dotting the various beaches of Goa. >From Arambol to Galgibaga. The cash-rich Starred hoteliers now in Goa have the means to easily move over to the pristine beaches of south Maharashtra -- they may even be more than pleased to. Humble and hard-working coastal Maharashtrians dont have as many village feasts and zatras, or dozens of in-laws kissing the Creator every other day, as happens in Goa. Work absenteeism is a bane to anyone doing business in Goa. Multi- and national tour, travel and ticketing agencies, car rentals and forex exchangers will likewise be only glad to move over to an emerging xanadu. Would it be only the rich and powerful who may shift shop from Goa? Lamanis from Karnataka, ayurvedic body masseurs from Kerala, even the sprinkling of firangi restaurateurs and small businessman ... what would be their incentive to stay back, when the tide is flowing up North? Our neighbours from Sindhudurg, Ratnagiri (even Raigarh) districts possess not just excellent beaches waiting to be opened. They bear, pertinently, a mindset that will not oppose the setting up of international-standard Golf courses, nightspots, Casinos, and what-have-you, on their soil. If you are inclined to think that only affluent tourists may skip Goa for Maharashtras Konkan paradise, while we still will enjoy overloaded Charter carreiras with butchers from England, dopeys from Israel and the mafiosi from Russia, think again. Have Maharashtrians ever displayed aversion to Full moon parties, Raves, Flea and Saturday night markets? And can our Ghode Modni hope to compete with their sensuous Lavni? Goa will simply not be in a position, on any yardstick, to compete with south coastal Maharashtra, once Mopa helps open it. So finally, who will be left back in Goa? Only the small-time Goan lodger, the Goan cabbie, the Goan beach shacker and the Goan coastal restaurateur who depended almost entirely on tourist clientele ... nursing wounds of indescribable loss, and fending off bank recoveries. And what about this entirely wholesome and unadulterated illogic of locating a vital *public utility* at one extreme, desolate, end of Goa -- furthest from the maximum who will use it? By extension, when Panjims bus stand gets saturated beyond hope of expansion -- Panjim has no land for its garbage even now -- will its new bus stand be built at Keri-Ponda or Canacona, where plenty of suitable land is available ... w
[Goanet] Bhembre's Roadmap for Konkani ---feedback
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Romi Lipi Soglleam Indiecheam Bhassank Favo Mogal Bab Uday Bhembre, Bhar gheun tuzo lekh "Roadmap for Konkani" hanvem vachlo, kiteak khoimtori vachun zannam aslom ki tum Konknni mogui zaun asai mhunn. Punn tech porim tum Devnagari-cho Bott zaun asai mhunn mhaka khobor nasli. Tum Konknno Goemkar zaun hanv ojeapnam, kiteak thodde Kistanv Goemkar-ui apli zolm-sothea visortat ani oxench chintat. Punn Romi lipi hea kallar zobor gorjechi Goemkarank. Ki Romi lipi zaiteam heram lokan Asiak apnnaili mhunn, dubau nam tum zanno zatoloi, zoxem Turki (Turkey) desan, kiteak tankam ek kalzidor fuddari aslo ATARTUK nanvacho. Hanv somzotalom ki tum-ui, zanno zaun ki hea "Cyber" kallar Romi Lipi gorjechi mhunn Goemkar fuddarak, tum Romi lipi-ek tenko ditoloi mhunn. Punn Kotta, churchurre, tuka goddiek tujea Devnagari bullounean tem korunk puttovlem nam? Vis vorsam patim hanvem ek kavitta "Nomann Romi Lipi-ek" boroileli Romi lipi-eche gunn ugddaun, dakoun konn-konn ganvamni apli khudd lipi soddun Romi lipi aplea lokak apnnaili. Hea sokol tuka ti pattoitam, pation ki zait ti tuka bulloiteli Romi lipi-chea mogan poddonk ani hem lipi-chem kestanv sompounk. Kitle xekdde ami Kristanv ani Konknne moi-mogan jiveleant kestanv nastanam hea gaum-ant - Roma Udentichem. Sangchi goroz nam ki mhaka bhov sompem zalem porkeo bhasso xikunk -zoxi Jerman, Purtuguez ani Espanhol, kiteak hanv Konkani ulounk ani Romi lipi-en borounk zanno mhunn. Ani ti borounk konnem mhaka xikounk nam. Hanv Latin xiklolom mhunn Konkani-nt borounk mhaka sompem zalem. Ulounk tor mhoje maim laguim xiklam ani Inglez mhojea pai laguim, lhan bhurgo than don bhassanim vaddlam. Tujean atam moll korietta Romi lipi-chem. Mhoji Konkani chalti zaun asa, nhoi klassik! Tunch nhoi, bogor zaite Kristanv vhoddil Devnagariche bhagidor zaun aslet, zoso bab Tomazinho Cardoso, tachea kumsara pormonnem Goa Today masikant eka interview-ant. Punn atam to soirannar aila so dista ani aplea patkachem bogsonnem gheunk Romi Konkani Movement suru kelam ani zuztta Romi-k Goemchi Rani korunk, zori Devnagari atam Raza zaun asa tacheak gunneavak lagun. Tantun, Tomazinho aiz honraddik mhunnoietta tache khaltikaiek lagun, sangun ki apnnem chuk adarli mhunn. Goa Today masikant, Oktubrachem 2005, editor Vinayak Naik Tomazinho-ak vicharta: VN: But why did'nt you sort out this script problem at the time of the Konkani Movement for obtaining the official language status for Konkani? TC: Looking back, I think it was our mistake. The entire Catholic community in Goa fought for the official language for Goa. The Konkani movement would have fizzled out if the people were to be told that script for Konkani would be Devnagari. They were kept totally in the dark. Of course, we, mean- ing those who were the leaders of that Movement were aware that it was going to be Devnagari, but we had not let the people from the minority community know about it. Actually, we were also at fault because we never let them know about this understanding on the script we had on script issue. (courtesy: Goa Today) Khoreponnim, aiz goroz soglleo Indiecheo bhasso Romi lipi-n borouncheak, ani nhoi fokot Konkani. Tuvem borem korun chintlear tum-ui raji zatoloi mhaka dista. Hoch tuzo vell Indiecho Ataturk zaunk, diun Indiek Romi lipi , zossi Ataturk-an dili Turki desak. Tuka oxem disonam bab Bhemre? Tuvem atam ek novem Roadmap kaddietta: Roadmap for all Indian Languages - Roman script. Ragar zainaka hanvem mhoji mott tuka boroilea mhunn - feedback tujea lekh-ak. Basilio Magno (Spain) Pattietam ki tum hi kavita sintidd diun vachtoloi mhunn. NOMAN ROMI LIP-EK borovpi Basilio Magno (Spain) Konknni bhaxe, tuk' kortanv ami noman! Tum zali mhunn raj-bhas amchea ganvchi; Tantun mellunk pavlem ghottok-raj amkam, Tem zaun aslem amkam sothea soimbachi; Punn tori-i dusro xevott aslo hacho, Ghott korunk Goeam ekvott Goymkarancho. Ek bhas, ek des, tach' vorvim ekuch porza, Hi zaun asunk zai amchi politik filosofi; Don bhaso zhuzleot apleak gheunk ek Goa, Xekim Konknni jikli, harun geli Moratthi. Punn Moratthivale zaun xanne kole, Tannim dampun hadle Konknniche dolle. Bhuloile Konknnik, des-bhoktichea nanvan: "Romi lipi naka, ti zaun Eropi; Ti Goeant haddli Purtuguez soitanan, Amchi dexi lipi zaun asa Devnagri."
[Goanet] AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - Novembrachi 21vi, 2005!
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Tujea bonvtonnim sonvsaracher distt ghal - tuka Devache rochnacho gunn disti poddtolo; tujea nasteachea mezar distt ghal - tuka Devachi sasai disti poddteli; arxean polle - tuka Devachi boreantli bori rochna disti poddteli. (Look at the world around you - you will see God's creativity; look at your breakfast table - you will see God's providence; look at the mirror - you will see God's best creation.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA