RE: [Goanet] The debate on non-reservations

[Nasci Caldeira]

Dear Vasant,

I agree with you; but u should also know that the prevalence of the caste 
system among Christians in Goa, and perhaps in Mangalore too, is not that 
much enforced or put in practice. Since a lot of the Christians in Goa and 
Mangalore inherited their High or low caste, from their Hindu ancestry, they 
cannot shed their caste so easily as they are all living and breathing among 
their Hindu brothers and sisters. So I would think that whilst retaining 
their high caste because they are born thus; they do not practice the harsh 
practices of the Hindu high caste. There are exceptions; but then again 
these have inherited and not created the system. Again thats no excuse.


The caste system is not only religious but has become cultural over the 
centuries; So what is required is for all to join in the Cultural 
Revolution, that I would like to happen. Yes , their enlightenment is not 
complete if they still practice the caste in practice. Remember, the old 
'inquisitions' were all about this!


Enlightenment is about my not believing and worshipping animals and reptiles 
and other weird deities, and  or looking down at fellow humans, sorely based 
on their birth! Understand  Vasant??


Threfore all of India's varied societies must learn to integrate culturally 
and in every way possible; whilst at the same time keeping their religious 
practices strictly private!. Bye now. More on this later.


Nasci Caldeira

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Nasci,

The Caste System is Hinduism's and India's curse.Perhaps you may  wish to
clarify why both Hindus and Catholics in Goa practise the caste system  to
this
day and why

there is such a "Bamonn" and "Chaddo" complex among the Elite?Or  are they
still awaiting enlightenment like you?

Dev Tumka Boren Korum.




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[Goanet] Christians insulted in Films.

[A. Veronica Fernandes]

KONKANI ARTICLE by Daniel F. De Souza.  "Christians insulted in Hindi 
Films".



The following Konkani article written by the well known English/Konkani 
journalist from Vasco, Daniel F. De Souza and published in V. Ixtt on 29th 
April 2006 is reproduced herebelow. Since I find it interesting, I feel Goan 
Christians should know by reading this article how they are treated in Hindi 
Films.  Daniel is an Editor of Potr Trust Magazine in Goa where he is 
employed.  He regularly contributes to Goan Observer and also to other 
Englsih Newspapers besides regularly contributing to Konkani monthly Gulab & 
V. Ixtt.  I hope Konkani Romi readers will like this article.

A. Veronica Fernandes,
Kuwait.


”Abril 29vi 2006


Ami kitlo kall legun ogi ravtoleanv?

Daniel F. de Souza


Halinch hanvem ek Hindi cholchitr pollelem. Cholchitrachem nanv Malamaal 
Weekly . Hea cholchitrak veche adim, hem ek khub vinodhi cholchitr mhunn 
hanvem aikolelem. Orxim mhaka Hindi cholchitram pollev-pak vhoddlixi avodd 
nam.



Cholchitrachi kotha vinodhi vixoiacher bosoi-lea. Survat tem xevott meren 
hea cholchitrant boro vinodh dista. Paresh Rawal, vinodhi kolakar Asrani, 
ani Om Puri he kolakar hantunt mukhel bhumika kortat ani aple soimbik 
bhumikentlean khorench pollevpeanchim kallzam jikhtat. Cholchi-trachi kotha 
eka lhan ganvant ghoddta. Xet-kamot kortolea thoddeach sadea-bholea 
lokancher ti attaplea. Paresh Rawal tea ganvant ek xikxit monis asunui taka 
favo ti nokri mellona. Dekhun to ganvant bhonvun sorti vikpacho dhondo 
apnnaun aplo ghor sonvsar choloita. To heram modem xikxit dekhun ganvcho lok 
taka khub manta. Ek dis tannem ganvant viklole sortik ek krutt rupianchem 
inam' laglam mhunn taka kollta tedna tea ganvant tem inam' jikhpi sort 
viklolea mon'xak to soddun kaddunk koxi toren manddni kaddta ani xevttak to 
monis konn to gomun ietoch fuddem kitem zata tacheruch hem purai cholchitr 
cholta ani xevottak pavta.


Hea cholchitra vixim ekuch sangchem mhonn-lear tea cholchitrant bhumika asat 
teo soglleo hindu ani gorib xetkamot korpi ganvchea lokancheo. Punn sort 
lagta to monis mat ek kristanv dhormacho ani tachem nanv Joseph Anthony 
Fernandes. Taka sogott ‘Anthony' hea nanvant pachartat ani ollkhotat. Ho 
Anthony xrimont mhunn gomta karonn tachem ghor khub vhoddlem, ghorant TV ani 
telefone asa. Ani to soglleak sutt marun bhonvta. Tachea gomtteant ek 
vhoddlo khuris lambta. Punn ho Anthony ek as'sol ‘Bebdo' to disachi survat 
sorean korta, soreache paintt bolsant gheunuch soglleak bhonvta. Chaie-chea 
dukonar vochun khali glas magun tantunt aplem soreachem paintt otoun soro 
pieta ani aplem akh'khem jivit sorea fattlean ibaddta. To ankvar, ani taka 
ek Mary nanvachi kazari bhoinn asa. Taka ek kruttachi sort laglea hem TV 
khobram vorvim gomtoch to ietolo khoxen bhorta ki to he khoxecho shok gheun 
bosla thoinch morta. Punn apleak hi sort laglea ti mat khoxechi khobor to 
goroz tea mon'xank telfone korun gomoita.


Tachea mornna uprant tachea moddeache bara berestar ani tera sukrar kortat 
hi ek dusri goxtt. Punn tachem moddem kaxavant igorjent nimnnea sonskarak 
haddtat ani thoim igorjent bhitor tomaxa dakoila to mat vichar korpa sarko. 
Amchea Kristi dhormant mel'le kuddik vhoddantlo vhoddlo respet-man ami 
ditanv ani favo te ritin tiche nimnne sonskar kortanv, zanv magir to gorib 
vo xrimont. Dusrem mhonn-lear eka gavant zoim soglle okristi monis jietat 
thoim tankam ho bebdeacho patr korpak ek kristanvuch dhormacho monis kiteak 
zai aslo tor? To bebdo monis ek okristi ani dusrea dhormacho monis kiteak 
dakhounk zainaslo?? Hench mhoje somzonnek iena! Hem bebdeachem patr ek 
kristi dhormachea monxak dakhoun tea filmacho producer ‘Priyandarshan' kitem 
dakhol korunk sodta kai? Kai kristanv lok soglle bebde ani tovnaxi mhunn? 
Oxem to producer chinta zalear to khub chukta ani aple zannvaiechi goribkai 
dakholl korta. Oslo obhinoi tannem eka ganvant dakhoun ‘minority' porjek 
vhodd okman kela. Ani hem amchean ogeponnim koxem sonsunk zait?


Hea adim hindi cholchitramni amcho mhonnlear kristi porjecho hea hindi 
cholchitramni zaito goir-faido ghetla ani amkam sabar cholchi-tramni unnea 
dorjeachim nagrikam koxim dakhoi-leant. Chodd korun kristanv ani Goenkar 
bebde, kirmidor, ani bhikari mhunn pasun dakhounk tankam koslich oddchonn 
disunk na. Dekhik, Amar Akbar, Anthony, Khamoxi, Ram-Balram, adi. 
cholchitram. Tor hem kitlo kall legun oxem choltelem kai? Mhojea chintpa ani 
tea cholchitrachi kotha manddlea tea promo-nnem, tea bebdea mon'xacho 
obhinoi ek okristi mon'xachean korunk kainch oddchonn ani attvench naslem. 
Punn toch bebdeacho patr ek kristi dhormachea mon'xak dakhoila dekhun hem 
soglem vichitruch dista ani te kothek bilkul sobona.


Kristanvamni, kristi sonvsthamni, Catholic minority cell ani heramni hacher 
koddok nixed marpachi goroz asa. Amcho khasdar Churchill Alemao ani Margaret 
Alva hankam mhojem ekuch magnnem. Tannim hem cholchitr khud polleun-chem ani 
hacher amche Sonsodent koddok avaz ubarun

[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Rooting for Goa ... the fruits are beginning to show

[Goanet Reader]

ROOTING FOR GOA: THE FRUITS ARE BEGINNING TO SHOW

By Miguel Braganza
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 Goa has been known as 'Aparant, a region without
 boundaries. The golden sunsets, the golden ripe mangoes,
 cashews and jackfruits and, perhaps, the gold bedecked
 women attending the weddings during the long summer
 season, moved some poet to call Goa a golden land or
 Sunaparant. Like El Dorado, Goa draws people to itself. 
 More than that, it draws its sons and daughter back to
 their native soil.

One such son-of-the-soil to return to Goa is Pandurang G.
Kakodkar or, simply, PGK. A former Chairman of the State Bank
of India (SBI) and the Goa Public Service Commission (GPSC)
and a current member of the Board of many prestigious
companies like MCX and Sesa Goa, PGK has returned to his
native land with a one point agenda: to draw funds for
planting and nurturing a million trees in Goa.

His first step was to get his former employer, the SBI, to
fund tree planting along the Miramar by-pass. People refuse
to accept that the huge trees along this road are just six
years old, but that is the truth.

PGK ensures that the trees are pruned and watered during
summer. He also has manure applied to these road side trees.
The Corporation of the City of Panaji (CCP), the SBI and,
recently, the Botanical Society of Goa have joined hands with
PGK to make things grow. He is always there in the forefront.

It is not for nothing that the Maharashtra Chamber of
Commerce, Industry and Agriculture (MACCIA) awarded him with
the Dr. G.D. Deshmukh award recently. PGK, as the
vice-chairman of the Western Ghats Kokum Foundation, is
actively involved in the greening of the Goa University
campus and road side tree planting from the Raj Bhavan to Goa
Medical College funded by MCX, Sesa Goa and SBI for now.

Agriculture and Dr. Hemant Yeshwant Karapurkar have been
synonymous for almost half a century in Goa. HYK has been the
Director of Agriculture, Project Director of Rural
Development Agency, founder chairman of Goa State
Horticulture Corporation and chairman of GPSC when the likes
of Sanjit Rodrigues, Sandip Jacques, V. M. Prabhudesai and
Elvis Gomes were selected into Goa Civil Service.

He has been an active member of the Botanical Society of Goa
and continues to guide it as its immediate past president. It
was during his stint as the president of BSG the the fruit
festival of the Sunaparant, the Konkan Fruit Fest, was
conceived and given birth in association with the then Panjim
Municipal Council under the dynamic and soft-spoken Ashok
Mogu Naik. HYK has also served as the founder chairman of the
Goa Biodiversity Board and has been a member of the working
group on campus greening at Goa University.

 Fr. Inacio Almeida, sfx, of the Society of Pilar comes
 from a family of farmers from Curtorim. In addition to
 his religious work, Fr. Almeida is an avid farmer and
 social scientist.

He has won the Krishi Samrat award for highest sugarcane
productivity per hectare in Goa while working on the
Society's Dudh Sagar Farm in Collem.

If EM technology has become a household name in Goa, lay the
blame on Fr. Almeida. Today, he is promoting EM and Jatropha
bio-diesel through his Pilar Nature Farm so that Goa can
truly be a cleaner and greener place, naturally!

Fr. Almeida grows off-season vegetables under polyhouses,
flowers, vanilla, areca nut, fertilizer and pesticide-free
rice and is forever in search of newer and safer
technologies.

In his own words, "We eat pesticide-laden vegetables from
Belgaum and rush to Belgaum hospitals for treatment." If one
wants to eat healthy and live healthy, Fr. Almeida is a good
person to turn to. All others can pray to St. Jude, the
patron of the hopeless cases.

 Dr. Ajit Shirodkar was not born in Estado da India
 Portuguesa simply because the Portuguese did not capture
 neighbouring Vengurla. Based at Bambolim, this holder of
 a doctorate in Pharmacology from Purdue University, is
 every bit a Goan.

His one point agenda is to develop and adopt technologies
that will restore Goa as the hub of the Konkan. Gopakkapatna
was the port of trade with India for those who crossed the
Arabian Sea to trade Indian spices for Arab horses. It can
now be the hub for trade in mangoes and other fruits of the
Konkan.

Dr.Shirodkar's primary target as the chairman of the Western
Ghats Kokum Foundation (WGKF), of course, is Garcinia indica.

His father was involved in the development and marketing of
Amrit Kokum, the sweet, purplish pink summer drink made of
Bhindam or Kokum. The 'Goa butter' or 'bindnell' is a
vegetable fat that is solid at 40 degrees Celsius. It finds
application in medicine, cuisine, confectionery and in
cosmetics in an increasing health conscious world.

The discovery by a biochemist, Dr. John Lowenstein, of the
cholesterol balancing and fat suppressing qualities of
Hydroxy Citric Acid (HCA) found naturally in Garcinia fruits
have only confi

[Goanet] Re: goanet progesses as new voices are heard

[Elisabeth Carvalho]

Hi Eugene,
Do jump in where angels fear to tread :) Your imput
will be greatly appreciated. 

Elisabeth

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> It's nice to hear new voices on goanet. Maybe a year
> or more I lamented the absence of female voices
> which
> were once loud and clear. Oldtimers will remember
> them, so I need not name them.
> Elizabeth is a good replacement to those who have
> now
> become inactive. She gives back as much as she
> takes.

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[Goanet] Nuclear Threat for Goans in Gulf.

[A. Veronica Fernandes]

Iran's Nuclear Threat even for Goans working in the Gulf.

The following I wrote in the local Arab Times appeared in its edition dated 
1.5.06.  For the benefit of many of the Goan readers spread all around the 
world, I am reproducing it in this forum.



"This is in reply to the latest development in this region regarding Iran’s 
decision to go nuclear and to destroy Israel.  One thing one must admit that 
no power currently on this planet is capable to destroy Israel when USA is 
in totality supporting Israel.  The late assassinated president Anwar Sadat 
of Egypt was absolutely right when he said during his 1973 war with Israel 
that “I cannot fight this war because it is not Israel that I am fighting 
with but the USA”.  Hence, the peace moves leading to Camp David agreement 
and Egypt gaining territorial concession without firing a bullet.  This was 
the victory for Egypt thru peaceful method.  What one can attain with 
peaceful means one cannot attain thru war.  Iran with the help of nuclear 
weapons if it succeeds in producing in the near future will create more 
headaches to its Gulf neighbours than to Israel.  If Iran attacks Israel, 
the Jewish State will not sit idle, neither its allies nor its protectors in 
the West will keep silence. It will be a war for Israel for its own survival 
and for its survival Israel will go to any extent.  Can Iran afford to pay 
the price for such a war?  Ayotolla Khomeni after returning to Iran vowed to 
export his revolution to neighbouring countries but finally got embroiled in 
the war with Iraq and lost the track of his vow. Iran will have to think 
hundred times before attacking Israel and thinking of liquidating it from 
this planet as per the statement of  the current Irani president.  Israel is 
come to stay in this region and its grip over its territory is very firm 
even though I strongly denounce its treatment to Palestinians who are the 
real sons and daughters of that soil.  Israel in this area is an evil but 
for West surely it is a necessary evil and for this reason west is blindly 
supporting Israel’s existence.


During the last 8 year war between Iraq and Iran according to reports 
available that time Iran targetted some areas of Kuwait in the name of Iraq 
and if tomorrow Iran acquires atomic bombs I am sure the security of Gulf 
countries will be in peril.  As it is Iran is nicely seating over the three 
islands of UAE and does not even care to sit on the negotiating table to 
settle this dispute peacefully. The arrogance and might of Iran is more 
powerful in front of its immediate neighbours. Iran does not care for 
civilized norms for this reason it kept American diplomats as hostages for 
so long period during the presidency of Jimmy Carter. Iran does not 
understand international language nor does Iran know to live under the 
umbrella of International strictures. Saddam Hussein while in power tried to 
live in isolation against the will of international community but finally he 
failed.  Likewise all other brute leaders and their nations will fail before 
the might of international community.  Nobody should dare to challenge the 
will of the international community otherwise their fete will be like that 
of Saddam’s Iraq. Wars are not fought with slogans only.  God helps to those 
who help themselves and not to those who try and liquidate others.


My immediate fear is this.  I have already suffered a trauma of invasion of 
Kuwait and along with me millions in Kuwait.  If Iran shows its stubbornness 
and intransigence attitude to international community I am sure USA may take 
punitive action unilaterally against Iran. By taking punitive actions 
against Iran, USA first of all will protect the existence of Israel and 
secondly USA by doing so will curtail the risks of having terrorists attacks 
propped up by Iranian support to terrorists against its own security.  If 
USA backed by its Western allies attacks Iran to destroy its nuclear 
facilities of producing atomic weapons, I am sure its aftermath effect will 
have severe repercussion in the neighbouring countries including Kuwait from 
where I am earning my sustenance.  Will some better sense prevail on Iran 
and will Iran abide by settling this issue peacefully?  According to my 
observation, it is more secure for Arab and Gulf countries in particular to 
have an atomic bomb with Israel than with Iran because Israel is unlikely to 
use nuclear weapons against Gulf countries.  In fact, because of the 
protection of Gulf and for the sake of the liberation of Kuwait, without 
retaliating and aggravating the impact of the war, Israel suffered the 
bombardment of Scud Missiles from Saddam’s Iraq.


A. Veronica Fernandes,
Safat Kuwait".

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[Goanet] Jaycee Creed Awards 2006

[St- Inez Jaycees]

"Jaycee Creed Awards" is one of the premier programs of JCI India Zone XI. The 
motive of this program is to recognize the contributions of Individuals who 
have excelled in their respective fields and who exemplify the best attributes 
of Indian citizens. "Jaycee Creed"   honorees are those Outstanding Citizens 
of India who are a role model in society and whose contributions and 
accomplishments have inspired thousands of others to seek similar heights.

A program that was established in the year 1996, Jaycee Creed honorees from 
the past include such distinguished personalities like Kiran Bedi,  Super cop 
Julio Rebeiro, Eminent Scientist R. Mashelkar, Shri Khairnar, International 
Pop Star Remo Fernandes, etc.

At a glittering Awards Ceremony that will be held on the 6th of May 2006, in 
Gaspar Dias Hall, Miramar, Panaji-Goa, at 6.00 pm, JCI India, Zone XI will 
felicitate the following 5 outstanding citizens: 

1.  Shri Mario Miranda(Eminent Cartoonist of International repute)
2.  Shri Anna Hazare(Social Activist)
3.  Shri M. S. Usgaokar(former Additional Solicitor General of India)
4.  Shri Bruno Coutinho(Ex Captain of  Indian Football team)
5.  Shri Nitin Kunkoliekar (GCCI President). 

The felicitation function will highlight the career of each honoree in a 
narrative form and will provide a stage from which the honorees can challenge 
and inspire people from across the State. For each honoree, there will be a 
presentation profiling his accomplishments, followed by the trophy 
presentation, and an acceptance speech. An interaction session with the 
dignitaries shall follow. The felicitation/ Interaction program is open to the 
public. 

JCI Panjim are the hosts of the event. JCI India Zone XI will be represented 
by its Zone President Jc HGF Nitin Prabhu who will chair the function. The 
function will also include National President of JCI India Shri M Rajanbabu 
who will be in Goa for his official visit. 


Yours sincerely
Jc HGF Nitin Prabhu, Zone President
Jc HGF Sadashiv Shirsat & Jc HGF Sandeep Heble, Program co-ordinators

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[Goanet] Dalgado Konkkni Puroskar

[Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr]

DALGADO KONKNNI  PUROSKAR FOR PRABHAKAR TENDULKAR

Noted Konknni writer and Roman script activist Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar has 
been selected for the prestigious Dalgado Konknni Puroskar 2006 awarded by 
Dalgado Konknni Akademi for his invaluable contribution towards the 
development of Konknni language.

The award comprising of a Memento, Citation, Shawl and cash award of Rs. 
25,000/- will be presented  at the hands of Dr. Wilfred De Souza, Hon. Dy. 
Chief Minister of Goa in the presence of renowned Konknni poet Mr. Yusuf 
Sheikh and other dignitaries on Monday, May 8, 2006 at Menezes Braganza Hall, 
Panaji at 5.00 pm to commemorate the 151st birth anniversary of Mons. 
Sebastiao Rodolfo Dalgado.

Bio-data of Mr. Prabhakar Tendulkar.

Name: Prabhakar Tendulkar 
Birth Date: 4th June, 1934 
Address: Dalesh Printers, Ansabhatt, Mapusa, Goa.

a) Prabhakar Tendulkar's contribution to Konknni language, particularly to 
Konknni in Roman script, started during Portuguese regime in Goa in 1954, when 
Marathi newspapers from Maharashtra started to come to Goa. His father started 
a weekly "A Vanguard a" in Portuguese & Konknni in Roman script. Mr. Prabhakar 
Tendulkar edited the Konknni Section of "A Vanguarda".

b) He edited the Konknni Section of "A Vanguarda" for a long period from 1954 
to 1964. During this period he gave ample opportunities to the young writers 
of Konknni in Roman script to develop their literary talents.

c) He started a independent weekly " Goykar" in Konknni in Roman script in 
1979.

The aim of "Goykar" was to achieve separate statehood for Goa and Konknni as 
the Official Language of Goa. Prabhakar Tendulkar, through "Goykar" was 
responsible to create a lot of awareness among Goan masses particularly among 
the Konknni readers in Roman script.

d) In order to unite all the Konknni writers in Roman script and to provide 
them a common platform he formed a literary association "Konknni Kendr" (Goem) 
in 1979. Through Konknni Kendr, he encouraged Konknni writers in Roman script 
by organizing various literary competitions and by giving literary awards for 
their outstanding literary works.

e) He was in the forefront during the struggle for the recognition of Konknni 
as the State's Official language. Due to his commitment to Konknni, he was 
appointed as the President of Mapusa branch of Konknni Porjecho Avaz, which 
spearheaded the movement of making Konknni as the Official Language of Goa.
 
f) He was the founder Treasurer of Dalgado Konknni Akademi, which was 
established in 1989 in order to fight the injustice meted to Konknni in Roman 
script. He still continues to be an active member of Dalgado Konknni Akademi.
 
g) He has published 10 books in Konknni in Roman script till date. His works 
includes Essays, Short stories, Novels, Poems, Tiatrs, etc. Some of his books 
are:-Rongmachi, Gulab, Tin Tiatr, Sat Prosn, Kotha Ghons, Oso ho Sonvsar, 
Jinnecho Rong, etc. His literature has always highlighted the burning social 
problems existing in our society.

h) Being the proprietor of Dalesh Printers, Mapusa, he served the Konknni 
language in another way by helping the young writers to publish their Konknni 
books. He also transliterated Roman script Konknni books into Devanagari 
script and published them in the book form so that literature in Roman script 
is taken to readers of Konknni in Devanagari books.

i) Besides the Konknni Section of 'A Vanguarda' and the weekly 'Goykar' he has 
edited annual magazines like 'Goencho Porzoll' and "Goencho Pormoll" for many 
years, both in Roman script.

j) His contribution to this cause for the last five decades, has made 
Prabhakar Tendulkar synonymous with Konknni in Roman script. He has created a 
unique place for himself among the writers and readers of Konknni in Roman 
script in particular and Konknni lovers in general.

k) He has participated in several 'Sahitya Sam'melans' in Goa and outside Goa. 
He has also participated in many radio programs such as Tiatr, recitation of 
poems, discussion on various topics, etc., etc. at All India Radio, Panjim. 
Doordarshan Kendr, Panjim has also broadcast his programs.

I) Due to his valuable contribution to Konknni language, he has been 
felicitated by Okhil Bharati Konknni Lekhok Sam'melon, Okhil Gomantak Nabhik 
Samaj, Lions Oub of Mapusa City, Mapusa Sarvajanik Ganeshmhotsav Mandal and 
Konknni Bhasha Mandal, Goa.  He is also the recipient of the 
prestigious "Antonio Pereira Konknni Puroskar" for the year 2003 of Thomas 
Stephens Konknni Kendr, Porvorim which is awarded for his contribution to 
Konknnii language and literature. 

The function is open to all.

For Dalgado Konknni Akademi

Sd/
MICHAEL GRACIAS
Secretary

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[Goanet] Goans sleeping on outside people dadagiri!

[Miguel Soares]

Goans sleeping on outside people dadagiri!

Tue May 2 06:59:12 PDT 2006
--- Bernado Colaco 
 > wrote:
>
> Are we Goans powerless in Goa? I guess these are the
> fruits of the so called Liberation?
> 
Mario observes:
>
Since when did you become a part of "we Goans",
seeking "power" while hiding all the way in distant
Macau?
>

 

"We Goans" are affected by these intrusion of outsiders in our Goa and
showing off their 'dadagiri'  as can be seen in Manuel Caldera's case. I
concur with Bernard's comments, Mario instead of supporting 'we Goans'
your posts are against Goans.

 

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[Goanet] Litany in Konkani

[Romeo Braganza]

  Hi

I was actually searching for a site giving me the litany in konkani. Do u know 
of any?

Romeo


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[Goanet] Konkan Fruit Fest begins today

[Miguel Braganza]

The entries for the fresh fruit competition at the 4th annual  KONKAN FRUIT 
FEST  in Panaji were judged by an expert panel consisting of Mr. Sanjeev 
Kadkade[ Head of Dept, Institute of Hotel Management, Porvorim], Ms.Ana Dias e 
Camara and Mr. Olavio Fernandes, both members of BSG and officers of  Goa 
Directorate of Agriculture. All three judges have long experience in judging 
fruit quality through organo-leptic tests. the test of the pudding is in the 
eating! One random fruit was picked up by the judges and tasted to arrive at 
the final conclusion among the fruits that had good appearance or visual 
characteristics.

The winners are:
MANGOES:
Malcurada/Mankurad mango 1. Carlos Figueiredo, Santerxeth-Aldona, 2. Balaji 
Naik, Bicholim, 3.Dattaram L.Shirodkar, Bicholim.
Other Mangoes: 1 & 2 Balaji Naik, Bicholim 3. Shrihari Naik Kurade, Cuncolim

PINEAPPLE
1.Shrihari Naik Kurade, Cuncolim,2.Mahesh Kankonkar, Carambolim,3. Satchit 
Kamat, Sanquelim

JACK
.Nirmala Pol Khandeparkar, Bordem-Bicholim

SOUR SOP [Laxman phal]
Sanjeev Mayekar, Bordem-Bicholim

PUMELO[Toring]
Lala Satarkar, Ponda

CHICKOO
1.Carlos Figueiredo, Aldona, 2. Gurunath Naik, Bicholim

GARCINIA[Birondam/Kokum]
1.Sakaram V. Kapdi, Bicholim, 2. Damodar Mashelkar, Bicholim and 3. Mahesh 
Kankonkar, Carambolim

STAR FRUIT [ Carambola/Karmal]
Gopal M. Parab, Bicholim

JAVA PLUM [Jamun/Zamlam]
Shrihari Naik Kurade, Cuncolim

BANANA
1.Vishwanath Bhat Naik, Bicholim,2. Shalini Y,Thakur, Bicholim

MUSK MELON
1.Rohidas Ganesh Satarkar, Ponda.

Shrihari Naik Kurade and Carlos Figueiredo are  regular competitors in the 
Konkan Fruit Fest and Mahesh Kankonkar is a life member and former student 
volunteer of the BSG.

The exhibition will be inaugurated by Mr. Tony Rodrigues, Mayor of Panaji, at 
10.30 A.M. on Friday 05 May, 2006 Between 11.30 A.M. and 3.00 P.M., entries 
will be accepted for competition in processed fruit products from juices and 
wines to cakes and pastries. The entries will be judged at 4.00 P.M. the same 
day by F & B experts with experience in the trade.

On Saturday, 06 May, there will be a fun fruit eating competition for mangoes, 
papayas, watermelon and banana in quick succession between 4.00 P.M. and 5.30 
P.M.. The pace setter is Mr. Suresh Naik of Vasco, a winner of the competition 
since he joined the fun. His last record is 2 kg. watermelon pulp[seeds and 
all] in 5 minutes at 'Green Mormugao' on 05 March, 2006. He just cannot win 
all the four fruit categories this time!

Last year, many persons were disappointed that they could not taste, or even 
get a whiff of, the Kokum wine prepared under the guidance of a researcher at 
Goa University. Most people complained but some decided to change the 
situation. Dr. John Rodrigues of Chichinim, who was formerly doing "Product 
Development" for Hoechst [Hext] medicines now has four variants of Kokum wine 
in both ,Sec[dry] and demi-Sec [semi-dry], types. You can smell it, taste it 
and buy it to drink at home. Carlos Figueiredo of Aldona also has made kokum 
fruit wine for home consumption. May their tribe increase.

In 2003, Lumina Lobo was the sole entrepreneur making sweet cashew wine
[doce/douce]. Today she has competition from John Rodrigues and Luis of 
Saligao who also have cashew wine. She has added a demi-Sec to her list. So 
have the others. She has added Jamun wine to her list. so have the others. In 
the years to come we are likely to have a lot of sweet summer wine! Demi-Sec 
and Sec wines will follow because men will be men. Making wine with the end of 
summer fruits has a distinct advantage over spoiling the fruit.

Shivani Arolkar of Kudal is going to be back with mangoes and more...juices 
and RTD[Ready To Drink] fruit juices for the hot summer afternoons. Bread and 
More joins the band with tarts, chats and pastries made of fruit. Juices, 
mocktails and possibly cocktails will follow. D'Souza Biotech's Frugurt 
[fruity yogourt]was a hit last summer at the KFF. It is back at the fest. So 
are the fresh fruit ice-creams from Sonam's Frosty. Sonam, samja karo.

You have sampled the wares of Canancona, Panjim and Pilar Self-Help Groups
[SHGs] since 2003. This year the first Federation of 55 SHGs under the name of 
Disha Rural Women's SHG Association of Anjuna is going to burst on the scene. 
On 25 April, Disha SHG Association had a mini-fair cum training session in 
waste management at Anjuna. The member SHGs had a turnover of about half a 
lakh rupees in the 4 hour event. Activities range from catering [through Rural 
Polytechnic scheme] to to beauticians to fashion designing. And you thought 
that SHGs only make pappads, laddoos and chakri?

Dr.Ajit Shirodkar will be promoting scientific mango cultivation on his own 
and Kokum cultivation through the Western Ghats Kokum Foundation. He is a Euro 
GAPs [Good Agricultural Practices] certified Mango grower with an orchard and 
ripening chamber at Devgad, the home of the best Alphonso and Kesar mangoes.

The ICAR-

[Goanet] Rooting for Goa : Fruits in the Konkan

[Goanet News Service]

ROOTING FOR GOA

By Miguel Braganza


The fruits are beginning to show

Goa has been known as 'Aparant' a region without boundaries. The golden 
sunsets, the golden ripe mangoes, cashews and jack fruits and, perhaps, the 
gold bedecked women attending the weddings during the long summer season, 
moved some poet to call Goa a golden land or Sunaparant. Like El Dorado, Goa 
draws people to itself. More than that, it draws its sons and daughter back to 
their native soil.

One such son-of-the-soil to return to Goa is Pandurang G. Kakodkar or, simply, 
PGK. A former Chairman of the State Bank of India [SBI] and the Goa Public 
Service Commission [GPSC]and a current member of the Board of many prestigious 
companies like MCX and Sesa Goa, PGK has returned to his native land with a 
one point agenda: to draw funds for planting and nurturing a million trees in 
Goa. His first step was to get his former employer, the SBI, to fund tree 
planting along the Miramar by-pass. People refuse to accept that the huge 
trees along this road are just six years old but that is the truth. PGK 
ensures that the trees are pruned and watered during summer. He also has 
manure applied to these road side trees. The Corporation of the City of Panaji
[CCP], the SBI and, recently, the Botanical Society of Goa have joined hands 
with PGK to make things grow. He is always there in the forefront. It is not 
for nothing that the Maharashtra Chamber of Commerce, Industry and Agriculture 
[MACCIA] awarded him with the Dr. G.D. Deshmukh award recently. PGK, as the 
Vice-Chairman of the Western Ghats Kokum Foundation, is actively involved in 
the greening of the Goa University campus and road side tree planting from the 
Raj Bhavan to Goa Medical College funded by MCX, Sesa Goa and SBI for now.

Agriculture and Dr. Heman Yeshwant Karapurkar have been synonymous for almost 
half a century in Goa. HYK has been the Director of Agriculture, Project 
Director of Rural Development Agency, founder Chairman of Goa State 
Horticulture Corporation and Chairman of GPSC when the likes of Sanjit 
Rodrigues, Sandip Jacques, V. M. Prabhudesai and Elvis Gomes were selected 
into Goa Civil Service. He has been an active member of the Botanical Society 
of Goa and continues to guide it as its Immediate Past President. It was 
during his stint as the President of BSG the the fruit festival of the 
Sunaparant, the Konkan Fruit Fest, was conceived and given birth in 
association with the then Panjim Municipal Council under the dynamic and soft 
spoken Ashok Mogu Naik. HYK has also served as the founder Chairman of the Goa 
Biodiversity Board and has been a member of the Working Group on campus 
greening at Goa University.

Fr. Inacio Almeida, sfx, of the Society of Pilar comes from a family of 
farmers from Curtorim. In addition to his religious work, Fr. Almeida is an 
avid farmer and social scientist. He has won the Krishi Samrat award for 
highest sugarcane productivity per hectare in Goa while working on the 
Society's Dudh Sagar Farm in Collem. If EM technology has become a household 
name in Goa, lay the blame on Fr. Almeida. Today, he is promoting EM and 
Jatropha bio-diesel through his Pilar Nature Farm so that Goa can truly be a 
cleaner and greener place, naturally! Fr. Almeida grows off-season vegetables 
under polyhouses, flowers, vanilla, areca nut, fertilizer and pesticide-free 
rice and is forever in search of newer and safer technologies. In his own 
words, "We eat pesticide laden vegetables from Belgaum and rush to Belgaum 
hospitals for treatment." If one wants to eat healthy and live healthy, Fr. 
Almeida is a good person to turn to. All others can pray to St. Jude, the 
patron of the hopeless cases.

Dr. Ajit Shirodkar was not born in Estado da India Portuguesa simply because 
the Portuguese did not capture neighbouring Vengurla. Based at Bambolim, this 
holder of a doctorate in Pharmacology from Purdue University, is every bit a 
Goan. His one point agenda is to develop and adopt technologies that will 
restore Goa as the hub of the Konkan. Gopakkapatna was the port of trade with 
India for those who crossed the Arabian Sea to trade Indian spices for Arab 
horses. It can now be the hub for trade in mangoes and other fruits of the 
Konkan. Dr.Shirodkar's primary target as the Chairman of the Western Ghats 
Kokum Foundation [WGKF], of course, is Garcinia indica. His father was 
involved in the development and marketing of Amrit Kokum, the sweet, purplish 
pink summer drink made of Bhindam of Kokum. The 'Goa butter' or 'bindnell' is 
a vegetable fat that is solid at 40 degrees Celsius. It finds application in 
medicine, cuisine, confectionary and in cosmetics in an increasing health 
conscious world. The discovery by a biochemist, Dr. John Lowenstein, of the 
cholesterol balancing and fat suppressing qualities of Hydroxy Citric Acid 
[HCA] found naturally in Garcinia fruits have only confirmed what the people 
of Aparant knew when they added sol

Re: [Goanet] Re a crocodile burger

[Gabe Menezes]

On 04/05/06, Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cornel,

...

Beef is one or Australia's finer meat produce; and is exported in large
quantities specially to Japan and SE Asia. Mouth watering! I go for Beef and
Veal, most times; hate lamb, as it also smells a bit compared to Goat meat.

But there is also, so called 'Kobe Beef' produced in Japan in limited
quantities, is very good! This Kobe Beef is produced by feeding Cattle with
imported special Hay from the USA and other nourishments like beer and Saki
etc. There is a chain of restaurants in Japan which cater exclusively to
Kobe Beef. Only those who visit Japan know about it. Otherwise people think
that Japan has no beef of its own.



Comment: Blah, blah, blah and blah...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4894952.stm

'Most expensive sandwich' on sale
Hungry shoppers are being offered the chance to eat a gourmet
sandwich, but the £85 price tag might be too much for some to swallow.

The McDonald sandwich - named after its creator Scott McDonald, the
chef at London department store Selfridges - is said to be the world's
most expensive.

Its cost is down to the Wagyu beef that makes up most of the filling,
packed in a 24-hour fermented sour dough bread.

There have been at least five advance orders placed for the 21oz (595g) meal.

If you are a food lover, this represents great value for money
Ewan Venters
Selfridges food director

Wagyu cattle are one of the most expensive breeds in the world.

The Japanese cows are raised on a special diet, including beer and grain.

They are supposed to be regularly massaged with sake, the Japanese
rice wine, to tenderize the flesh.
--
DIE DULCI FREURE,
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

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Re: [Goanet] Re: Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films

[Gabe Menezes]

On 04/05/06, Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I really love it when the Catholic Church talks about
distortion of facts by "evil" people and how we should
all pray for them.

What about 2000 years of distortion by the Church.
Let's talk about an "evil" Pope who made Mary
Magdalene to be a prostitute when we now know that if
the ministry of Jesus existed, she probably was a rich
patron who played a dominant role.

What about Gospels that existed alongside the four
that we know off, like the Gospel of Thomas and the
Gospel of Judas which never saw the light of day
because they didn't fit in with their theology.

What about scrolls found at Nag Hamadi written by
Gnostics, a sect of Christianity probably persecuted
and driven to extinction by mainstream Christians of
the time.

What about centuries of manipulation of theology by
Popes and Bishops and Cardinals that conveniently
created Virgin births and Holy Spirits to explain away
loopholes in the gospels.



RESPONSE: Madam, I am taken aback by your post but more importantly by
the lack of response by the defender of faith...perhaps he has
succumbed to your charms, or is seriously courting you, for  future
moral support reasons. Perhaps it is the writers he has problems with
and not the content. He takes issue with certain posters: George,
Santosh, Mervyn, Jose and Gabe. It seems that content does not matter,
if presnted by the so called gentler sex!

Both Nasci Caldeira and Joseph Fernandes, can now reflect on their
misplaced trust in the waverer!

Hope you find answers to your questions in the following :-

The Da Vinci Code: The Facts Behind The Fiction
by Bob Waldrep

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/d50aa.html


http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/reflect-lit/davincicode.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1755189,00.html

http://www.irr.org/da-vinci-code.html

http://www.opusdei.us/art.php?p=7017




--
DIE DULCI FREURE,
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

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Re: [Goanet] GOA TRAFFIC PROBLEMS

[Mario Goveia]

--- N Chandrasekharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hello every one,
> 
> Thanks to the responses received on my initial mail
> through goanet. I received a surprise phonecall 
> from one Mr.Mascharenhas, Dona paula, who wanted to 
> meet me urgently to-day, as he had to go and meet 
> some one in the Government regarding the ever 
> increasing traffic problems of Goa.
> 
> He is an engineer by profession and has returned
> from Germany. 
>
Mario observes:
>
Mr. Chandrasekharan,
I am constantly amazed and amused by the angst about
traffic in India and Goa.
>
Unless you pass a law REQUIRING every driver licensed
in Goa, from 2-wheelers to multi-axle vehicles, to
undergo remedial driver training and testing, where
the fundamentals of driving ethics are driven home and
accepted as a condition of re-licensing by a certain
deadline, followed by strict enforcement of traffic
laws starting no earlier than that deadline, you are
wasting your time and energy.
>
Then what do you do about the narrow, often unmarked 
roads, the traffic density, the "pedestrians" and
assorted "quadestrians", and out-of-state drivers?
>
Please tell Mr. Mascarenhas from Germany, from me, a
resident of the US, that Goan and Indian traffic will
trend towards the picture-perfect conditions that
apply in Germany and the US about the same time that
throwing thrash wherever convenient, spitting all over
the place and urinating in public will be abolished in
India.
>
While this may sound cynical, it also reflects
reality.  Traffic rules in particular and civic sense
in general are just not a priority in India, including
Goa.
>
In the meantime, every driver should pay close
attention to the "temporary maniac" in the next
vehicle, and drive very, very defensively, before
everyone returns to perfect sanity as soon as their
vehicles are parked:-))
>


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Re: [Goanet] Voting rights for NRI Goans

[Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha]

From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Thanks.  Perhaps you know that they named a village in
> Portugal after my name:-)) (in a reply to Bernado Colaco).
> >

Mario has made the above assertion (with a smiley) more than once on this
list. On a serious vein, however, the truth is that:

(1) There is no village with that name in Portugal, but a city which has
about 4,000 inhabitants and is the headquarters of a "concelho" (= "taluka")
and of a "comarca" (= judicial district) having 22 "freguesias" ("firgozo"
in Konkani) and 17,000 inhabitants;

(2) The name of the city is spelt "Gouveia"and not "Goveia" as is Mario's
surname;

(3) The said Portuguese city exists at least since the 12th century.  It has
textile, milk products and ceramic industries, and is situated at an
altitude of 550-600 metres.

Jorge

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Re: [Goanet] RE: Enlightened Christian

[Mario Goveia]

Kevin, 
>
I know you are a staunch atheist evangelist, but can
you expand on your question or do you think snide
sarcasm is a substitute for a coherent question,
comment or opinion?  
>
>
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> "Nasty" Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 'That I am a Christian and have been enlightened!'
> 
> Really???
> 
> Kevin Saldanha
> Mississauga, ON.
> 
>

> mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> http://mail2web.com/ .
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard

[Mario Goveia]

I have welcomed the addition of Elisabeth to Goanet,
and wish that some of the other "new" women, like
Melinda Powell, Sonia Gomes and others, will take the
time to post their thoughts and opinions more often. I
know there are many others out there.  I believe their
presence will serve to civilize the discourse and the
barbarians among us, of which I am certainly one :-))
>
Mario.
>
--- Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's nice to hear new voices on goanet. Maybe a year
> or more I lamented the absence of female voices
> which
> were once loud and clear. Oldtimers will remember
> them, so I need not name them.
> Elizabeth is a good replacement to those who have
> now
> become inactive. She gives back as much as she
> takes.
> And that too in rapid-fire action.
> 

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Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations - gone awry?

[Mario Goveia]

--- Elisabeth Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> First of all, Mario citing a flaming liberal like
> Friedrick von Hayek is like the devil quoting the
> scripture:) and then both Fred and Mario kick Ayn
> Rand in the stomach. That's too much for a girl 
> like me to take in one morning :)) 
> 
> Can you guys please wear your labels neat and nice,
> so I know what I'm dealing with :))
> 
Mario clarifies:
>
Elisabeth,
You need to be careful not to confuse classic liberal
democrats, who stood for free market capitalism, with
modern political liberals who follow a socialist
philosophy.  For example, President John F. Kennedy, a
Democrat who believed in a strong national defense and
lower taxes, would be a total misfit in the modern
Democrat party, dominated by his ultra-socialist
brother, Ted Kennedy.
>
Thus Friedrich von Hayek was not a flaming liberal in
the modern political context.  Here is how Fred's
favorite encyclopedia describes him:
>
"Friedrich August von Hayek (May 8, 1899 in Vienna –
March 23, 1992 in Freiburg) was an Austrian economist
and political philosopher, noted for his defense of
liberal democracy and free-market capitalism against
socialist and collectivist thought in the mid-20th
century"
>
I had no intentions of kicking Ayn anywhere - only to
emphasize the free market economists and philosophers
that I favor the most.  She definitely belongs to my
end of the philosophical spectrum, but because she
used fiction as her medium, and was personally a
hedonist and libertine, she is easily vilified and
deliberately misunderstood by the other end, as Fred
illustrated.
>

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Re: [Goanet] Re: The debate on non-reservations

[Elisabeth Carvalho]

Mervyn3.0
I think you are confusing affirmative action with
"jobs being reserved". Affirmative action requires a
conscientious effort by the employer to diversify its
work-group. To this end, the employer may have a plan
drawn out as to how it will achieve this goal.
Generally the "4/5 rule" applies to ensure that
discrimination of minorities has not taken place and
that each minority has been represented in the final
selection, given the total applicant pool.

Elisabeth
> 
> 
> 
> Nice try, Mario.
> Now try and explain to us why some jobs in the US
> are
> reserved, by law, for only a section of the
> popluation.
> Mervyn3.0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Goanet] storyteller in Goa (Jantar Mantar)

[DJ Fadereu]

Dear Goanet Subscribers,

My meatspace name is Rohit Gupta, and I am a storyteller. Yes, I
know that needs some explanation and here it is. I was writer
in my previous avatar. Over the last two years I did research
in Indian history alongside the history of technology, and that of clocks.
During this long ordeal, I discovered Jantar Mantar, a lost book written by
Jyotishacharya Ganganath Triyambak, circa 1900.

In 9 parts, it describes the life of this astrologer in the early twentieth
century, and more significantly - it is a prophecy of the 20th century,
using parallels between society and abstract machines.
This sounded very academic to most people, yes -
so I started performing this poem live with music, dressed as the Rajasthani
astrologer, explaining things where needed. Please note that Triyambak's
predictions  are recited to the audience long after the events he
predicted have happened, by the person who
discovered this lost book - DJ Fadereu.

I'm leaving Bombay because the police have imposed a bizzarro
license on live artistic performances, which is too expensive
for my modest means. I travel and tell this story, and whatever
money I make from my audience - I use it to travel and write.

So I thought of Goa, a place I love and long to see again,
but this time not as a tourist, but as a  friend of the local community.
I have a lot to learn about Goa, its people and history. (Pssst...
 If the name "Dr. Garcia da Orta" means anything to you,
 please let me know. I am also planning to drink
 as much feni as I can and do "research". Heh!)

Plans: I will be taking up a cheap room somewhere near Calangute to begin
with (less than 200 a day), and try my luck at the shacks and cafes
for evening performances. If you can reccommend some nice places,
restaurants where I can perform,  or if you own one yourself,
I would love to meet up with you during my visit and tell my story.
I will be shuttling between Bombay and Goa until I finish my schedule
of acts here in corporate offices. My contacts, and a detailed website
about the show is listed below.

I look forward to hearing from you.

warm regards,
--

DJ Fadereu
The Jantar Mantar Projekt: The Hip Hop Hopera
^ hip hopoetry + muzack + opera buffo + laptop + gadgetzookery = phun
http://rohitgupta.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Show+Description
Phone: +91 98675 80501
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Goanet] Goa news for May 5, 2006

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org

Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.


*** Goa court to hear murder appeal (icWales)

A man jailed for life in India for murdering his partner, is to
have an appeal against conviction heard next month, it emerged
today. Adrian Duggan, 37, of Blaina, South Wales, was found
guilty of murder in the Sessions Court of Banaji, in the state
of Goa, in August last year.

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_objectid=1700&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=goa-court-to-hear-murder-appeal-name_page.html


*** French Telecom To Launch Online Game Service (Total Video
Games)

GOA.com to publish online games with built in
micro-transactions in the second half of 2006...

http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/French_Telecom_To_Launch_Online_Game_Service_9885_0_0.htm


*** Video: Goa, India's Cultural Crossroads (National
Geographic)

Learn how this colorful Indian region became home to one of the
world's most unique blends of Eastern and Western cultures.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/0503_060503_india_video.html?source=rss


*** PM to don sailor's cap, experience combat (rediff.com)

The PM's 'Day at Sea' will be on Friday off the Goa coast --
accompanied by his wife Gursharan Kaur, Defence Minister Pranab
Mukherjee, Home Minister Shivraj Patil and others.

http://www.rediff.com/rss/redirect.php?url=http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/may/04pm.htm


*** Goods worth Rs 20,000 gutted at Old-Goa (Navhind Times)

Panaji, May 1: Packaging papers worth Rs 20,000 gutted from a
packaging unit in the Corlim Industrial Estate at Old-Goa this
evening.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=050258


*** Shaan to perform in Goa on May 6 (Navhind Times)

Panaji, May 3: The singing sensation Shaan is all set to scorch
up Goa on May 6. Speaking from Mumbai over the phone, he
informed that he and his other co-performers were eager to
perform for the receptive and lively Goan crowds.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=050456


*** WorldSpace Satellite Radio launches services in Goa
(Navhind Times)

Panaji, May 4: WorldSpace Satellite Radio, (NASDAQ:WRSP), one
of the world leaders in satellite-based digital radio services,
recently announced the launch of services in Goa. Music lovers
in Goa can now enjoy commercial-free satellite radio 24 hours a
day, seven days a week.

http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=05059


*** Ajay, Kajol holiday in Goa (The Times of India)

Kajol has been chilling out with husband Ajay Devgan and
daughter Nysa in Goa. (AFP Photo) PANAJI: While the entire
media speculates about Kajol's comeback film Fanaa and how it
will fare, the actress herself has been chilling out with
husband Ajay Devgan and daughter Nysa in Goa.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1513824.cms


*** PRESS RELEASE: GOA ANNOUNCES EUROPE'S FIRST FREE ONLINE
GAMING PORTAL (gamesindustry.biz)

PARIS, France, 4th May 2006 - GOA, the France Télécom-owned
publisher of online games, will be launching GOA.COM in the 2nd
half of 2006. A first for the European market, GOA.COM is an
online gaming portal with a difference.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16595


*** JCT beat Goa 2-1 in NFL (Outlook India)

JCT Phagwara beat Sporting Club De Goa by 2-1 in the National
Football League match played in the Guru Nanak Stadium here
today. After the barren first half, Rodrigues Nicholas
(Sporting Goa), Sunil Chetri and Johnson Bannor (JCT) scored a
goal each in the second half.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=381945


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[Goanet] 12th May FRIDAY BALCAO:Different approaches to Waste Management in Goa

[Goa Desc]

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Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet,

We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO
on 12th May from 4pm. to 6pm.
at Goa Desc Resource Centre
No. 11, Liberty Apartments,
Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa.

TOPIC:Different approaches to Waste Management in Goa.
SPEAKER: Clinton Vaz - Waste Management Consultant

We invite you to express your viewpoint
by attending the Friday Balcao event
but if you cannot attend, then please send your
views and action plan suggestions by post to
FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507
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best wishes,

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[Goanet] RE: Enlightened Christian

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"Nasty" Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

'That I am a Christian and have been enlightened!'

Really???

Kevin Saldanha
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Re: [Goanet] A Cross on Panji River bank: Some one please help with thisPortuguese-English Translation

[Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha]

- Original Message -
From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: [Goanet] A Cross on Panji River bank: Some one please help with
thisPortuguese-English Translation


> A Cross near Panji River bank: Some one please help with this
Portuguese-English
> Translation
>
> This cross is found on the river bank of Mandovi near ferry crossing, opp.
> Electricity Dept Panaji. There is a message in Portuguese (see below).
>
>  It looks like a ship was sunk here and 81 people dead on the feast day of
St.
> Francis Xavier Dec 3. Can any one help in translating it please ?
>
> Would also appreciate if any one knows more about this tragedy..
>
> Thanks for your usual help.
>
>  A' MEMORIA DAS INFELIZES 81 VICTIMAS DOS SINISTRO DA LANCHA "GOA"
>  OCCORRIDO A 3-12-1901.
> DEDICA ESTE SINGEL O PADRAO A COLONIA GOEZA DE ADEN PEDINDO
> A TODOS OS QUE POR AQUI PASSAREM
>

If I am not mistaken, the correct message engraved there is as follows:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

  À MEMORIA
das infelizes 81 vitimas do naufragio
da lancha "Goa"
 ocorrido a 3-12-1901
   dedica este singelo padrao
a colonia goeza de Aden
pedindo a todos
os que por aqui passarem
que orem pelo seu eterno descanso

   3-12-1904
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

The cross was erected on December 3, 1904 in memory of the incident
(accident) which had occurred three years earlier. The shipwreck happened on
the feast day of St. Francis Xavier, but it is not clear whether the launch
carrying those people (Goans settled in Aden) was on its way from Betim,
from Verem or/and from Panjim to Old Goa or was returning from Old Goa to
any or all of these three ferry points but was  caught in rough weather and
capsized. The translation of the message is:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

   TO THE MEMORY
of the 81 unhappy victims of the shipwreck
of the launch "Goa"
 which occurred on 3-12-1901
this simple monument is dedicated
 by the Goan colony of Aden
requesting all those who pass here
   to pray for their eternal rest

 3-12-1904
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

I think that before the final date there is also the inscription «P.N. e
A.M.» which stands for «Pai Nosso e Ave Maria» and means «O.F. and H.M.» =
«Our Father and Hail Mary».

Jorge



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RE: [Goanet] Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films

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Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films, Launches Prayer Crusade

...
The novel pretends to be presenting facts of history but twists
historical characters and facts to help the author make blasphemous
comments against Christianity and its leaders.
...

Isn't this heaping fiction upon fiction?  I won't be holding my breath that
the volleys of prayers directed skyward are going to make an iota of
difference.  Calling it a 'Prayer Crusade' only dredges up other unsavoury
memories.

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Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain

[Mario Goveia]

--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Re the often said view of India making huge economic
> progress to super-power status, I can't help 
> feeling, following a recent visit, that this is a 
> myth at present. However, it is a very useful myth 
> as the growing confidence of young Indians 
> everywhere on the sub-continent is very evident.
> 
> Hopefully, the myth will turn to reality soon even
> though I cannot bear the thought of another 
> dynastic Gandhi making the grade.
> Cornel
> 
Mario observes:
>
To see whether it is a myth or reality one has to look
at the economic growth statistics and the list of
"heavy hitters" lining up to invest in India.
>
Looking around at the chaos while dodging cars,
pedestrians and spitballs is misleading.
>
Besides, this Gandhi seems to have his head screwed on
straight, when compared to his Grandfather, a hero of
the freedom struggle, who then led the country down
the primrose path that it is now recovering from.
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[Goanet] Welcome to 4th Goa Fruit Fest

[JoeGoaUk]

 
Preparation for this year's Fruit Fest is in full swing.
 
5th to 7th May 2006 at Campal opp. Inox.
10am to 8pm
 
Exhibition . Sale.  Competition
 
About 30 large and very large stalls seen come up already.
Some of the stalls' fruit display already thrown open to bublic a day in 
advance.
 
All types of Goan fruits like Binndam, zambllam, Peram, Mangoes, Banana etc etc.
 
I wish you were here too.
 
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below are the pics (a selection)  taken from last year's fest.
 
Fruitfully yours,
Joe
 
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> Check the photo section of the our group. then choose Goa's Fruits
> 
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[Goanet] Re: A Cross near Panji River bank: Some one please help with this Portuguese-English Translation

[JoeGoaUk]

Thanks to you all.
Received in all 11 feedbacks in less than 24 hrs.
Plus there are two translations left by the viewers below the photo plus one by
Miguel in Goanheritagegroup.

Sorry, some text was missing, which is now added (see below).

However, no one has come back with more info on the marine tragedy so far but 
some
people did show interest in knowing more about it.

Thanks once again



   
  This cross is found on the river bank of Mandovi near ferry crossing, opp.
Electricity Dept Panaji. There is a message in Portuguese (see below).
   
   It looks like a ship was sunk here and 81 people dead on the feast day of St.
Francis Xavier Dec 3. Can any one help in translating it please ? 
   
  Would also appreciate if any one knows more about this tragedy..
   
  Thanks for your usual help.
   
   A' MEMORIA DAS INFELIZES 81 VICTIMAS DOS SINISTRO DA LANCHA "GOA" OCCORRIDO A
3-12-1901.
  DEDICA ESTE SINGEL O PADRAO A COLONIA GOEZA DE ADEN PEDINDO A TODOS OS QUE POR
AQUI PASSAREM uma prece pelo seu eterno descanso. 3.12.1904
   
   See the cross here http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/139613924/ 
   
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/139613924/



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Re: [Goanet] Crocodile burgurs, Vinicola wine & the Indian economy

[Elisabeth Carvalho]

Dear Cornel,
Seems like you enjoyed your trip. I think the wine is
bottled in plastic rather than glass probably because
plastic is cheaper.

You should have tried the croc. I've never had but
have had alligator here in the US. It's sort of like
chicken and with a little tartar sauce can be  quite
nice.

I also agree with you that the prospect of India
joining superpower status within the next few decades
is a myth. Even with foreign investment and the
multiplier effect in full force, it cannot generate
enough ripples to bring 60% of the population out of
poverty within a short span of time. Simultaneously
unlike China, no concerted efforts are being made to
curb population by either party. 

Even Goldman Sachs in their follow up to BRICs, make
note of the fact that despite huge strides being made
in the aggregate economy, personal incomes will be
only a fraction of those enjoyed in the west.
Increases in GDP of countries with such large
population means little to the PCI. 

Also, the CPI in India, continuously puts a wrench in
the corporate wheels of India by objecting to
dismantling of PSUs, increases in foreign investment
in vital sectors and its general dislike of anything
be it investment or ideas imported from the West. We
have to overhaul the political system itself by
reducing the impact of regional politics if we want to
cohesively impact national economics.

And that's my morning dose of pontificating!
Elisabeth
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--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Nasci
> Wouldn't a crocodile steak be better on the banks of
> the Yarra? I only 
> discovered the availability of crocodile when asked
> if I wanted it in my 
> burger in Cairns. I was as surprised as when offered
> horse in Belgium once. 
> I did eat the horse but not the croc!
> Cornel
> PS The plastic bottles for wine in Goa took my edge
> off Vinicola recently. 
> Why plastic?
> - Original Message - 
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Re: [Goanet] Why I do what I do ?

[Mario Goveia]

--- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is in response to various feedbacks received -
> some asking me how I get all this time, whether I 
> am working or not, whether I am married or not, 
> whether I have family or not, whether I have other 
> social life or not, whether I am using Company
> computer or not and so on..
>
Mario adds:
>
Joe,
Even though we have disagreed vehemently at times, I'm
glad you are finally doing something you really like
to do.  That's what counts.
>
Stay away from those blood-sucking "friends":-))
>
Good luck to you in the future.
>
Mario.

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[Goanet] Dubai to Cochin - 150kgs of baggage allowances etc

[JoeGoaUk]

Sorry, this is not by Air Ship but by Dubai-Cochin Ship services to start soon.

The launch of ship service was originally set for February but fresh 
international
regulations relating to onboard facilities forced the operation to reschedule 
the
launch date.

The ship will carry 700-800 passengers.
It will take 4 to 4.5 days to reach Cochin.
Twice a week and then soon once a week sailing.
It is to be operated along the lines of a Cruise and baggage allowance of about
150kgs,
Appealing Fare, facilities like Cinema, night club, Computers etc etc

Operated by Dubai-based Macro Shipping Company. (NT).

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RE: [Goanet] Re a crocodile burger

[Nasci Caldeira]

Cornel,
Cairns is in Queensland, and is a hot spot there, being a gateway to the 
great Australian Barrier Reef. I do not know of Croc meat; but some places 
have service with Kangaroo meat if some one wants it. The Yarra is 
Melbourne's ;muddy'// river; not so bad'; developed all over, in the city 
area with beaut parks, restaurants alfresco style, and shopping malls with 
boutique shops, etc. A wide and long promenade along the river, with bicycle 
tracks is one of the highlights, of the Yarra. You probably seen the sheer 
beauty of the area, if you watched the Commonwealth Games recently.


Beef is one or Australia's finer meat produce; and is exported in large 
quantities specially to Japan and SE Asia. Mouth watering! I go for Beef and 
Veal, most times; hate lamb, as it also smells a bit compared to Goat meat.


But there is also, so called 'Kobe Beef' produced in Japan in limited 
quantities, is very good! This Kobe Beef is produced by feeding Cattle with 
imported special Hay from the USA and other nourishments like beer and Saki 
etc. There is a chain of restaurants in Japan which cater exclusively to 
Kobe Beef. Only those who visit Japan know about it. Otherwise people think 
that Japan has no beef of its own.


As for Vinicola in plastic bottles, I am surprised too! As recently, in 
Margao at Christmas time I was presented with Vinicola in a glass (Ketchup 
size) bottle, by a Goan Lady from London on holiday.


First time I ate 'horse meat' was in Hamburg, Germany; when a German friend 
intoduced the same to me as 'Wurst' the popular German sausage. I believe 
they learnt to eat horse during the War Days, when meat was scarce; Only 
certain parts of horse are eaten; I like the taste though; could not make 
out the difference.


See Ya!
Nasci Caldeira.



"cornel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:


Nasci
Wouldn't a crocodile steak be better on the banks of the Yarra? I only 
discovered the availability of crocodile when asked if I wanted it in my 
burger in Cairns. I was as surprised as when offered horse in Belgium once. 
I did eat the horse but not the croc!

Cornel
PS The plastic bottles for wine in Goa took my edge off Vinicola recently. 
Why plastic?




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[Goanet] RE: Memory

[jose colaco]

re: "Á MEMÓRIA DAS INFELIZES 81 VICTIMAS" 

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


"IN MEMORY OF THE 81 UNHAPPY VICTIMS "


Could I suggest the following ? 

"IN MEMORY OF THE 81 UNfortunate VICTIMS.."


ps: Yes, it does appear that a sentence is missing at the end.

good wishes

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[Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard

[Eugene Correia]

It's nice to hear new voices on goanet. Maybe a year
or more I lamented the absence of female voices which
were once loud and clear. Oldtimers will remember
them, so I need not name them.
Elizabeth is a good replacement to those who have now
become inactive. She gives back as much as she takes.
And that too in rapid-fire action.
Though Mario has been around for sometime now, I still
consider him a new voice. He surely replaces some of
the old ones.
I wish I could keep pace with the debates over
religion, reservations, NRI voting rights, etc. that
have marked goanet over the past few months.
Since I get a digest version, I think I lag behind. I
am thinking of gearing up to meet the "new" challenges
of the "new" voices by  diving into the debate, even
if I have too with my legs first in.
The debate are tense and engaging, and I wish some of
them involved deeply in their point-and-counter-point
arguments leave personal remarks aside.

Eugene Correia



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[Goanet] Konkan Food Festival

[leo]

Dear Goanetters,

The Konkan Food Fest has begun today in Goa.  Find out more on 
http://fullerlife.in/KonkanFruitFest.htm


Viva Goa
Leo D'Mello
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RE: [Goanet] A Cross on Panji River bank: Some one please help withthis Portuguese-English Translation

[Paulo Colaco Dias]

Hi Joe, here is my contribution to the best of my knowledge.

" `A MEMORIA DAS INFELIZES 81 VICTIMAS DO SINISTRO DA LANCHA "GOA" OCCORRIDO
A 3-12-1901. DEDICA ESTE SINGELO PADRAO A COLONIA GOEZA DE ADEN PEDINDO A
TODOS OS QUE POR AQUI PASSAREM".

Please note the following:

1. "Lancha" can be translated as a motor boat.
2. "Singelo" means simple, sincere, modest.
3. "Padrao" means monument - in this case, the ideal translation is an
imprint on stone (very common on Portuguese colonies) which can be also
translated in this case to a tribute, homage, a mark of respect, etc.
4. "Colonia Goeza de Aden" means the Goan Community from Aden, i.e., Goans
who had migrated to Aden.
5. It does not look like the sentence is terminated. Can it be that the rest
of the imprint got deteriorated or maybe has fallen down and you can no
longer see? It would make much more sense if it terminated with "que rezem
pelas suas almas.", which means "to pray for their souls".

So, my translation is as follows:

***
In remembrance of the unfortunate 81 victims of the accident with the motor
boat "GOA" occurred on the 3-12-1901. The Goan Community of Aden dedicates
this modest tribute requesting all who pass here 

(to pray for their souls). -> this bit is not actually there but possible
has fallen down or got deteriorated.

***

Hope this was helpful,
Best wishes

Paulo Colaco Dias

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[Goanet] OBITUARY - Mrs. Martha Gomes (Raia - Ozro, GOA)

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OBITUARY - Mrs. Martha Gomes (Raia - Ozro, GOA)

Goa-World.Com Team expresses deep condolences on the sudden demise on 3rd May 
2006 of Mrs. Martha Gomes (Raia, Ozro, 
Salcette-Goa), beloved mother of our team member (photographer) 
Riwon Gomes and Roland Gomes, and their families.
 
Eternal Peace grant Unto her Oh Lord 
   And let Perpetual Light shine Upon her
   May her soul rest in peace.

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[Goanet] ADC - May 04

[Edward Verdes]

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May
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"Kundo khateleak undeachi ruch kitem?"...Konkani Proverb

A man who lives on chaff cannot appreciate the taste of bread.
You should cultivate a taste of things if you really want to enjoy them.

Kundo - paddy chaff (husk)

Edward Verdes
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Re: [Goanet] The next Gandhi: I'll make India better off than Britain

[cornel]

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

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 Confirm your bookings early or miss-out

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---
Re the often said view of India making huge economic progress to super-power 
status, I can't help feeling, following a recent visit, that this is a myth 
at present. However, it is a very useful myth as the growing confidence of 
young Indians everywhere on the sub-continent is very evident.


Hopefully, the myth will turn to reality soon even though I cannot bear the 
thought of another dynastic Gandhi making the grade.

Cornel



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[Goanet] goa stall at dubai travel show

[Eugene Correia]

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

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---
i was informed that dr. willy was in dubai with a
delegation for the arabian travel market. i visited
the goa stand as part of the india pavilion, but did
not find the good old doctor.
however, met the director of tourism, sandip jacques.
today (thurs) morning dr. willy was to address a press
conference but i could not attend.
also with the delegation is victor albuquerque
promoting "health tourism."

eugene 

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[Goanet] Maestro Josinho

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Maestro Josinho  from Velim rightly deserves the Goa State Award for his
 contribution in the field of Music.
 Beside playing for several tiatrs and several top directors he has been
 composing music for albums and if I'm not mistaken he has rendered music to
over 200 Konkani albums including two of my programmes "Mhaka Jieonk Dhi"
 and recently " Mhozo Hero".

 The name of Maestro Josinho  should  surely appear in the Limca book of
Records if not in the Guiness Book of World Records.

 A humble musician has traveled to many countries including the Gulf
 countries several times. He began his music carrier as a violinist in a
 circus band and gradually rise to be a music director and composer.

> Alfonso Bond Braganza


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> Maestro Josinho, Mhojim un-unit porbim Tuka
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> Aum kalzan than mhojim un-unit porbim tuka ditam Maestro Josinho-k tumcam
> "Goa
> State Cultural Award 2005-06" favo zalo dekhun.
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[Goanet] Club in Delhi

[Frederick [FN] Noronha]

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Does anyone know if this club is still active: Goan Sports & Cultural Club 
Delhi, Affiliated to the Delhi Soccer Association, member of the All India 
Football Federation, 55 Ashiana Apartments, Road 41, Pitam Pura, Delhi 110034. 
I came across a 1997 reference to this organisation signed by Leo Rodrigues.


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[Goanet] Memory

[Henrique Salles da Fonseca]

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"Á MEMÓRIA DAS INFELIZES 81 VICTIMAS DOS SINISTRO DA LANCHA "GOA"
OCCORRIDO A 3-12-1901.
DEDICA ESTE SINGELO PADRÃO A COLÓNIA GOEZA DE ADEN PEDINDO
A TODOS OS QUE POR AQUI PASSAREM . . . "

There is something missing in the end of the sentence which translation is 
approximately as follows:


"IN MEMORY OF THE 81 UNHAPPY VICTIMS OF THE DISASTER OCCURED WITH THE BOAT 
"GOA" THE 3rd DEC 1901.
THE GOAN COMMUNITY IN ADEN DEDICATES THIS SIMPLE MONUMENT BEGGING TO ALL WHO 
PASS HERE . . . "


Best regards,

Henrique Salles da Fonseca - Lisbon 




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Re: [Goanet] A Cross on Panji River bank: Some one please help with this Portuguese-English Translation

[lino dourado]

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Hi Joe,

Our Portuguese cyber amigos will help you to translate
better than this. 

Lino Dourado

The 'memory' of the unfortunate persons 81 victims  of
the accident of MOTOR BOAT "GOA" occurred 
3-12-1901. COLONIA GOEZA OF ADEN dedicates to this
singel the PADRAO asking for to all the ones that for
passing here 


JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

This cross is found on the river bank of Mandovi near
ferry crossing, opp.Electricity Dept Panaji. There is
a message in Portuguese (see below).
 
A' MEMORIA DAS INFELIZES 81 VICTIMAS DOS SINISTRO DA
LANCHA "GOA"OCCORRIDO A 3-12-1901. DEDICA ESTE SINGEL
O PADRAO A COLONIA GOEZA DE ADEN PEDINDO 
A TODOS OS QUE POR AQUI PASSAREM





http://www.goa-world.com/goa/poems 
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=gulf-goans_yahoogroups_com&restrict=&exclude=&words=Lino+B.+Dourado






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Re: [Goanet] Re: Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films

[cornel]

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Elizabeth
A short answer to your powerfully worded pertinent questions below, might be 
that the Catholic Church, like most other churches, is a business first and 
foremost. The centrality of its business lies in exploiting human 
frailities, fears and uncertainties, well laced with some dubious 
spirituality. Through this process, it has become internationally, one of 
the richest successful businesses ever known with a massive clientele.


Notwithstanding the view above, I absolutely insist in respecting and not 
deriding sincere believers in the teachings of the Catholic Church. Sadly 
however, the Church has many sordid appendages to its history. This 
includes, in Goa, its close  historic association with the hegemonic evil of 
caste practice. Priesthood in earlier times was significantly caste-based as 
historical records, in my possession, clearly illustrate. Further,  social 
and  political control within the Church, from the 'upper' caste echelons 
has continued to reflect this policy to this day. If this is not true, 
hopefully, the Archbishop of Goa (or his entourage) will rush to refute this 
proposition by drawing from his personal knowledge and  experience.

Cornel
- Original Message - 
From: "Elisabeth Carvalho"

Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:19 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Re: Cardinal Dias Deplores Anti-Christian Films

I really love it when the Catholic Church talks about distortion of facts 
by "evil" people and how we should all pray for them.

What about 2000 years of distortion by the Church?
Let's talk about an "evil" Pope who made MaryMagdalene to be a prostitute 
when we now know that if the ministry of Jesus existed, she probably was a 
rich patron who played a dominant role.
What about Gospels that existed alongside the four that we know off, like 
the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas which never saw the light of 
day because they didn't fit in with their theology.
What about scrolls found at Nag Hamadi written by Gnostics, a sect of 
Christianity probably persecuted and driven to extinction by mainstream 
Christians of the time.
What about centuries of manipulation of theology by Popes and Bishops and 
Cardinals that conveniently created Virgin births and Holy Spirits to 
explain away loopholes in the gospels?
And when all else fails let's not forget "blind faith" for none shall be 
so bold as to put their doubting fingers into the palms of Christ and 
question the Catholic Church on issues, on theology or on history.
Ofcourse, as Cardinal Dias states, "more things are wrought by prayer than 
the world can dream off", like tsunamis and earthquakes and genocides and 
famines.Let's not forget that "God has a plan for every
natural disaster victim" because ofcourse there was something wrong with 
the original plan of him spending the rest of his life with his loved 
ones.
The Catholic Church can easily put Mafia Dons to shame when it comes to 
spiritual extortion and Stalin had nothing on totalitarian regimes and 
towing the party line when compared to the Catholic Church.

Enough! At least Dan Brown's novel is labeled fiction.
What has the Church been pedaling all these years?
Elisabeth 




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[Goanet] film on usa sikh family - sorry, not related to Goa

[Eugene Correia]

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not related to Goa, but felt goans living in usa would
be keen to watch it.

eugene

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Acclaimed short film about a Sikh American family
after 9/11 
premieres on PBS' Independent Lens starting Tuesday,
May 9, 2006.

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/americanmade/index.html

American Made (http://americanmadethemovie.com) is a
story about a 
Sikh American family in the aftermath of 9/11.

When the Singh family's car breaks down in the desert,
Ranjit tells 
his father that no one will stop to help because "he
looks like a 
terrorist."

What follows is the heart-rending struggle between a
father and son 
and a larger exploration of faith, tradition,
acceptance, and what 
it means to be 'American' today.

Told with humanity and humor, American Made has won
seventeen awards 
from film festivals around the world.

It will likely be the first fictional film about Sikh
Americans post-
9/11 on national television.

Director Sharat Raju's next project is a full-length
documentary 
film Divided We Fall: Americans in the Aftermath
(http://dwf-
film.com) to be released in Fall 2006.



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[Goanet] Re a crocodile burger

[cornel]

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Wouldn't a crocodile steak be better on the banks of the Yarra? I only 
discovered the availability of crocodile when asked if I wanted it in my 
burger in Cairns. I was as surprised as when offered horse in Belgium once. 
I did eat the horse but not the croc!

Cornel
PS The plastic bottles for wine in Goa took my edge off Vinicola recently. 
Why plastic?
- Original Message - 


Now in a lighter vein; Elisabeth! I have become a
bit envious of your date
with Mario! In contrast I am offering you a
'Chateaubriand Steak' (for two)
prepared personally 'medium rare' , with a bottle of
the finest 'Sparkling
Red Burgandy' on ice, to go with it! Life is GOOD on
the banks of the river
Yarra! And all I want is: Hah, Hah! Hummm Hummm!
jolly good company! Will
you?
See Ya!
Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne
Down Under 




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