[Goanet]disapointed
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:13:45 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To whom it may concern,... I'm a little bit pissed of,..everyday i get your online paper in my mailbox...(and mostly every day i read it with much pleasure.) Except for the last few days! The half of India is flooded,millions of people are homeless and the only things that you guys are (apparently) intrested in is football and local shmuzery??? I know that the horrible weather conditions are not exactly destroying goa but a bit more consideration for your fellow countrymen and a bit more about the situation would be very welcome. Where is the Ghandi in each of us?? Oh yes,...we've putted him on our banknotes,..disgracefull Anyway, Regards, Kali - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]The S S Britannia story [revised edition]
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from melvyn misquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 8 Jul 2004 14:00:59 - From: melvyn misquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Goans...are known for their long seafaring tradition, making excellent cooks and stewards. Frank West, an S S Britannia survivor. --- The S.S. Britannia, with a crew of 203 -- which includes over 50 crew members from Goa-India -- and 281 passengers, sails from Liverpool on March 11, 1941 bound for Bombay via Freetown and Durban. However, tragedy strikes S.S. Britannia. The ship sinks barely 14 days later. When...Where...How...Why? With many crew members and passengers killed, the remaining survivors jump into the damaged lifeboats in a desperate bid to remain alive. One such lifeboat -- Lifeboat Number Seven -- is damaged, has scarce food and water supply, is dangerously overcrowded with survivors of contrasting and conflicting cultures, and has to overcome nature's many hurdles -- severe heat, storms and even whales! Under such adverse conditions, the lifeboat travels across 1,500 miles in a journey spread over a perilous and incredible 23 days. This four-part project -- which includes the entire text of a rare edition of the book 'Lifeboat Number Seven' by Lieut. Commander Frank West -- attempts to capture the saga of the S.S. Britannia, which is filled with drama, action, suspense, grit, horror, tragedy, coincidence, triumph Goas best known freelancer Frederick Noronha had written a feature on my project last year. Since then, Ive added a lot of data, which includes pictures of many Goan seamen on Britannia, interviews with their families, etc. For the entire story, check out any one of the two links: http://www.misquita.net/ship/index.htm http://www.misquita.org - Melvyn S Misquita _ Melvyn S. Misquita, Asst Chief of News Bureau, Herald, Panjim, Goa - 403001 INDIA Ph 1 : +91-832-2224202 (extn 231) Ph 2 : +91-832-2224460 (extn 231) Cell : +91-3129002 Mail 1 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail 2 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Akashvani Dubai Goenkars
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from jasper eusebio [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 05:59 (PDT) From: jasper eusebio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arrogant Goans ruling Goan Cultural Society in Dubai, United Arab Emirates For those of you who are keen in knowing the history of this Society please read on. This GCS was formed approx 17 years ago and not a quarter century back as it is wrongly rumoured, by linking the Goan Sports Club to their feathers - which was already disbanded with not too good deeds. However from what information I have, Goan Sports Club was formed in the late 70's ( maybe 1978-79) by few individuals who were involved in the arena of football like Rosario and Late Titus of Candolim, Francis of Colva, Ramiro of Betalbatim, Dominic of St. Estevan and many other dedicated guys to name a few. In those years, that was the only entertainment that goans could indulge in late evenings besides house parties which were a priviliege for few. Gradually, elections were held to run the Club and those who got elected were not on the basis of their merit to run the club but on the basis of their positions held in their Companies. My sources told me that the first President coming from Africa happened to have a good position in Dubai which made the whole trick to get him on the club presidency. By this one instance you can figure out how the Club may have progressed and disbanded. It is a pity that we Goans are unlucky to have presidents and chairmen of our organisations persons of dubious character who will do nothing for the benefit of poor and downtrodden. For this reason Goan organisations in the Gulf and Dubai in particular are considered of zero value as far as their work is concerned towards downtrodden. According to the latest information during the Annual General Body Meeting held in one of the hotels in Dubai in the first week of June, 2004 the President did a self-election thus re-electing himself as President with his same quorum of committee with addition of his future family members elected by him, regretfully, none among the attendees objected this. Ironically, those who attended the AGM always claim to be the upright and men of justice. Coming back to the original Goan Sports Club, according to my sources, the members belonged to only a bunch of those who wanted to gain cheap prestige for themselves and were self-centred for their own personal benefits. When they had all big guns in their committee and others known to their private circle - my source can't recall any Goan in distress or jobless or disabled in Dubai (let alone back home) being helped by the then so-called GOAN SPORTS CLUB or even setting up a Home For The Aged which would have been useful to them today ..in their old age as I believe some of their mod-children have disowned their parents which is probably a curse !!! From what I gathered, Goan Sports Club ran their organisation without a proper, legal club-house Their hatred for individuals went noticed publicly. This following episode is an example: I believe in early 80's(as usual 11-a- side soccer tournaments were held during the Holy Month of Ramadan as most of the employees work straight six hours a day and the afternoon is free) I believe they allowed a non-Goan who married a Goan and was accepted in the Goan society to be the Manager of a team until the semi-Final stage but as the team was victorious reaching Finals - this committee banned him from entering the field - which is discriminating. I believe, the team sportingly entered the field and made the demand that the Manager should be allowed with them before the game commencement which was not granted and so the team walked out. I don't think any of you has ever witnessed such walk-out by a team specially qualified to play the Finals ! Of course they deserved some punishment - but yet again the Committee has to be blamed for their poor implementation of Rules which they themselves make and break as per their whims and fancies and in this instance were the cause of team agitation.Of course nowadays,it is happening all over the world in the arena of sports where we hear match-fixing in cricket and recently in Goa itself where soccer match-fixing in Feb-04 had more than 100 goals scored simultaneously but these teams were banned for only one year and had CNN coverage.Whereas this Goan team and their players were banned for nearly 3-4 years and were disrespected by the Committee for their respectful act. Regards. Jasper. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]RE: VIVA PORTUGAL.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Colaco-Dias, Paulo R [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:53:08 +0100 From: Colaco-Dias, Paulo R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gabe, you are obviously another victim of the amazing hype created by the media of this country (UK). Having watched and listened to the BBC commentators all these days, it is amazing how they managed to create such hype at the expense of the British people. The British people have been made to believe England would win this tournament for sure. Not even once they accepted they could lose to Portugal. Not even once. What a shock yesterday's game was. And now you talk about Ronaldo's dives... and others talk about the sandy pitch that caused Beckam to fail the penalty and again others about the disallowed goal. Come on, it is about time to go out a bit and check the facts. I have Portuguese, French and Italian channels on my satelite reception. Check what the others are saying too. It is about time the British people wake up and create an opinion of their own instead of constantly being influenced by the most powerful media of this country. The media in this country have tremendous convincing powers. The European-phobia (Anti EU) created by the media is another obvious example. If the British referendum chooses not to accept the European Common Constitution, it is because of the strong anti-european media influence (a couple of bad tabloid papers that are read by large part of the population). The common British people have no idea what they are voting about! Best regards, Paulo. Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gabe Menezes Sent: Fri 25/06/2004 12:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [Goanet]VIVA PORTUGAL. RESPONSE: Having written that, you have glaringly avoided castigating Ronaldo for taking a dive time and time again. Readers kindly watch him in the next game! Cheers, Gabe. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Looking for my mum's godchild
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:58:46 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This may help Avril Fernandes looking for his mothers Godchild from Carmona. I am from Carmona and although I cant remember vaddo in Carmona. Most of Pereiras and Fernandes in Zanzibar are from a place close to the Market /Bazaar on the main road in Carmona, Salcete Goa. behind the chapel. I do not know how many of the people there have computers and get goanews. However, if you write a letter even with just what I have given you probably will get a reply. Good luck Barnabe Rodrigues Arizona, USA - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Cricket Match - August 8th.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from renebarreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 06:16:22 +0100 From: renebarreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] = GOANS OF AMERICA http://www.goacom.com/goa-la/links.html [World Goa Day] Cricket Match - August 8th. === The Los Angeles G.O.A (Goans of America) M.A.A (Mangalore Abroad Association) are getting together for a friendly Cricket Match on August 8th at 10:30am in Orange County. We share a lot in common with this group - culturally socially most of them are my very good friends. This is the first attemp to actually have an informal joint get-together between the two associations, so I hope that all of you will support this event as it's a great opportunity to make some new friends. You are all invited, either to play or to cheer/watch your favorite team. This invitation is going out via email only... no hard copy to follow in the mail. Actual flier for the event is on our web site http://www.goacom.com/goa- la/links.html can be downloaded or printed. Click on the small version (Thumbnail) to view the full sized flier. Event details are on the flier. Pictures of our past events are also on our web site. Please check them out. Please RSVP via phone or email if you intend to play on the G.O.A team. We'll accept players on a first-com-first-serve basis, so please hurry reserve your spot on the team!!! Looking forward to yet another fun-filled event in So Cal :) Ralph Figueiredo. President - Los Angeles G.O.A. 26602 Athena Avenue, Harbor City, CA 90710. http://www.goacom.com/goa-la [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-534-0358 = rene barreto founder and Overall Coordinator , WORLD GOA DAY 2004. 000 000 - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Fwd: We are very interested in hearing more about WGD
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:05:41 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] we are a family of 4 our two children and my husband live in Flushing NY while I live in Kampala Uganda. From reading your email we understand that the goan community in NY are preparing to have a WGD. We would be interested in finding out more about the event and meanwhile we would like to get in touch with other members of the community who live here, especially if there are any who have migrated from East Africa. Will look forward to hearing more from you, Marcie M - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]JOIN GOANS WORLD WIDE and celebrate WORLD GOA DAY
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from renebarreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:09:35 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) 00 A write up that appeared on Navhind Times in Goa August 2003. WORLD GOA DAY 2003 Suffused in a mix of love and nostalgia, Goans across the globe are gearing up to celebrate World Goa Day on August 21. The date marks the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th Schedule of the Indian Constitution by both houses of Parliament in 1992. While talk of the event in Goa seems muted, a virtual fever is building up in cyberspace among the Goan communities now thriving in the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, Portugal, Spain, Kenya, Tanzania and some countries of the Middle East. Writing in the official website of World Goa Day, Mr Rene Barreto, convenor of the event, says, on Goa day this year, thousands of Goans will once again remind themselves of the need to work to preserve our culture, music, history, language, cuisine, and art for our children, the non-Goan community and for posterity. The theme of Giving back to Goa is a good way to inspire our Goan community to do more for Goa and Goans worldwide, writes the London-based Mr Barreto. Let Goa day be a beacon of light and inspiration throughout the year and for the rest of our lives. Let us make this our motto: Proud to be a Goan, and live up to that motto. Messages of support and solidarity have been crowding Mr Barreto's email inbox. An email by Mr Keith Vaz, British Member of Parliament states: As someone of Goan descent I send my very best wishes for a most successful World Goa Day. This is obviously a crucial step forward in recognising the unique contribution of the Goan community to the life not just of India but also other countries where they have chosen to make their homes. Goa is known the world over for its civility, hospitality and diversity. It is one of the most glorious places on earth. I send my very best wishes for a successful day. Hoping to enthuse more among the Goan diaspora, Mr Barreto has posted some of these messages onto the popular mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr Oscar Furtado, of G.O.A, Toronto, sees this as an opportunity to celebrate the values the Goan community possesses and also to share these values with the various communities around the world. Writes Mr Cristopher Nunes, President, Goan Association of New Jersey, Inc. As this year's theme for World Goa day is 'Giving something back' to society, I am proud to say that the association and individual members continue to donate funds to projects in Goa and help other less fortunate Goans. Mr Oscar C Lobo, from Melbourne Australia urges Goans everywhere to shun the caste system and Mr John Paul Kihara of the Goan Community of Mombasa, Kenya, warmly invites all Goans and non-Goans to their special Goan festival in September. There is even a congratulatory message from a Briton, Mr Paul Hancock. There are some dissonant notes too. Writing in Roman script Konkani, one Mr Simon Mendonca laments that though Goans proudly proclaim their Goan-ness, they are ashamed to talk in Konkani. The bouquets and brickbats apart, Mr Rene Barreto affirms that on August 20, Goans world-wide join in solidarity to celebrate our Goan-ness. In Goa, World Goa Day is planned for August 24. Among other things, the celebrations will include a stage production by Professor Isabel Santa Rita Vas. Elsewhere in the world, Goan organisations have planned activities for the entire months of August, September or October 2003. Details are listed on www.goaday.com. There are games, picnics, dinners and dances, cultural shows and cooking demos, even Masses and healing services planned by Goan communities in places like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary (Canada), New Jersey, California, Houston (USA), London (UK) and Nairobi and Mombasa in Kenya. The list of celebrations is big, the activities diverse and the places, far-flung. The common denominator is Goa. Music naturally becomes part of the celebrations. Mr Basilio Magno, a Goan from Spain, had composed a special song, Proud to be a Goan, for the first World Goa Day in 2000. This year, the song has been re-arranged by Mr Emiliano da Cruz and sung by Lulu, one of Goa's top singers Other pages that you might like to visit: http://www.goaday.com/supporters php 00 - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]GHAG debate - Margaret Mascarenhas replies to Fred
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:16:58 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Margaret Mascarenhas mmasc at sancharnet.in - Fred, I don't think the issue here, at least for me, is about whether (some) NGOs/activists do good work (many do),and it is certainly not about ethnic origins--I don't know where that one came from. It is also not, for me, about dishonesty concerning money matters since to date no one has presented any evidence whatsoever to establish that this is the case. It isn't even about GHAG not doing good work. It has done good work, which is why I have supported it in the past. My objection to GHAG is their repeated use and abuse of OTHERS from whom they solicit support on one pretext and then unilaterally change the agenda when the other(s) are already committed/compromised. It is a question of public misrepresentation.Let GHAG do good work on its own and not enlist public support for causes that turn out to be other than what was originally outlined. That Heta has been dishonest in her representation in soliciting assistance,that she indiscriminately uses people to her own ends, I have personal experience with that, as have numerous others. Had it just been about me, I would and did refrain from comment for over two years, and continued to endorse her work, including the first Fontainhas Festival. Re the second Fointainhas festival, surely you must know that it was not only Alexyx who had a major problem with the way it was handled and with Heta's treatment of individuals once they were roped into the event; I spoke with at least 12 artists who were extremely upset by GHAG's insensitive, arbitrary and autocratic behavior during this Festival. Let's face it: GHAG cannot have a Heritage Festival without artists and musicians--no one would come. When you present a proposal to artists, or whomever, as though you are offering them a parnership in an event, you need to behave democratically and as though that partnership exists. And when GHAG puts itself out there in the public arena, and solicits public endorsement, they had also better be ready for public criticism. Margaret - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Goan Rain Festival San Joao celebrations today, Viva!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goan Rain Festival San Joao The residents of Goa celebrate San Joao, an annual rain festival or the Feast of John the Baptist, with great fanfare every year in June.The festival is part of the tradition the Portuguese, who ruled Goa until 1961, have left behind. Nowhere is this event better celebrated than the picturesque village of Siolim, which seems to come alive on the day from its year-long slumber. It is believed that San Joao revellers from several villages first converged in front of St. Anthony's church in Siolim over 150 years ago. The San Joao is usually held on a day which witnesses heavy showers. But rain gods didn't oblige this year and so the festival was observed under bright sunshine and clear skies.That, however, did not dampen the spirits of the revellers. Locals thronged the streets, bedecked in bright, costume clothes and floral headgear. They sang traditional songs and danced to the merry tunes. Vincent Pinto, a local resident, said, This San Joao festival used to be held over the last 150 years but the boat festival is done in a very nice way. Nearby villages come with their beautifully decorated boats alongwith their headgears and beautiful costumes. They come to the distributory and we have the function here close to the church. Some youngsters also turned up dressed as triumphant Brazilian soccer players, complete with jerseys and colourful headgears. However, Pascal D'Costa, another resident, lamented the old charm is mising in today's festivities. The festival has kind of lost its charm in a way because the youth are actually ignoring certain traditions and forgetting the relevance, he said. Many believe that the festival reflects the spirit of the state - that of fun and revelry, a festival that has tourist potential. Goa has come of age as far as tourism is concerned. Its balmy beaches and tropical climate attracts thousands of foreign visitors each year. It has now been voted as one of the top 50 tourist destinations the world over. http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/festivals/rain.html - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Seeking interaction with high-school teachers in Goa / India
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:14:02 +0100 (Horário de verão de Greenwich) From: Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maria Libania Ventura Nazareth, is daughter of a Goan father and Portuguese mother. She was born and lived in Kenya and in Mozambique before settling down in Portugal. She is presently a high-school teacher and has completed her M.Phil. research on the Use of body-language in the training of high-school teachers in Portugal. She wishes to continue her research for Ph.D. along the same lines, but extending it to India. She looks for contacts in Goa and elsewhere in India to interact on the subject of her research, which she has planned along the following lines: (1) The significance of body in the history of education in India and in Goa. (2) The method of training teachers in India. (3) Survey of courses in body expression and dramatic performance. (4) The prevailing status of the high-school formation in Índia with special reference to the utilization of body language. Any goanetters or GRNetter interested in interacting with Maria Libania Ventura Nazareth may email to her directly [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post to Goanet / Goa-Research-Net - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Please pass comments to: LINO LEITAO - June 23
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:08:56 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/23 Hi, Glad to note that you are a writer. As for Goans going to book-signing events, I have to inform you that I did stand in line for 4 hours for an autographed copy by the author: Living History [Hillary Rodham, Clinton]. What did you think of Cracking India by Bapsi Sidhwa [living in Canada] and Salman Rushdie's books [a Bombayite]? Waiting to get my hands on 'Goa: A Daughter's Story' by Maria Couto--it will be a while since Amazon probably will not stock it. Goans in the diaspora are drawn to best sellers, and books on current topics.. Good luck. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Shellfish Names.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from milind sulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: milind sulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zob is also one of the name. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Konkani Drama - Menino de Bandar's 'Ghara iea in Kuwait
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from borg costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 05:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: borg costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] The above drama held in Dubai on the 17th of June. Full marks to Menino de Bandar his troup for providing us good entertainment. To all goans enjoy the drama and dont bye the VCD of PeteRoshan film entitled Mog sold. It is one of the worst. mog-assundi!! Manuel - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]PICKLE JAR
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Aloysius D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:53:23 +0530 From: Aloysius D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Goans Everywhere, This is a lovely story for FATHERS' DAY -- a couple of days late, but I think all of us with appreciate it and maybe take a good lesson from it. Cheers Aloysius D'Souza - Original Message - From: Keith Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: FW: PICKLE JAR THE PICKLE JAR The pickle jar as far back as I can remember sat on the floor beside the dresser in my parents' bedroom. When he got ready for bed, Dad would empty his pockets and toss his coins into the jar. As a small boy I was always fascinated at the sounds the coins made as they were dropped into the jar. They landed with a merry jingle when the jar was almost empty. Then the tones gradually muted to a dull thud as the jar was filled. I used to squat on the floor in front of the jar and admire the copper and silver circles that glinted like a pirate's treasure when the sun poured through the bedroom window. When the jar was filled, Dad would sit at the kitchen table and roll the coins before taking them to the bank. Taking the coins to the bank was always a big production. Stacked neatly in a small cardboard box, the coins were placed between Dad and me on the seat of his old truck. Each and every time, as we drove to the bank, Dad would look at me hopefully. Those coins are going to keep you out of the textile mill, son. You're going to do better than me. This old mill town's not going to hold you back. Also, each and every time, as he slid the box of rolled coins across the counter at the bank toward the cashier, he would grin proudly. These are for my son's college fund. He'll never work at the mill all his life like me. We would always celebrate each deposit by stopping for an ice cream cone. I always got chocolate. Dad always got vanilla. When the clerk at the ice cream parlor handed Dad his change, he would show me the few coins nestled in his palm. When we get home, we'll start filling the jar again. He always let me drop the first coins into the empty jar. As they rattled around with a brief, happy jingle, we grinned at each other. You'll get to college on pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters, he said. But you'll get there. I'll see to that. The years passed, and I finished college and took a job in another town. Once, while visiting my parents, I used the phone in their bedroom, and noticed that the pickle jar was gone. It had served its purpose and had been removed. A lump rose in my throat as I stared at the spot beside the dresser where the jar had always stood. My dad was a man of few words, and never lectured me on the values of determination, perseverance, and faith. The pickle jar had taught me all these virtues far more eloquently than the most flowery of words could have done. When I married, I told my wife Susan about the significant part the lowly pickle jar had played in my life as a boy. In my mind, it defined, more than anything else, how much my dad had loved me. No matter how rough things got at home, Dad continued to doggedly drop his coins into the jar. Even the summer when Dad got laid off from the mill, and Mama had to serve dried beans several times a week, not a single dime was taken from the jar. To the contrary, as Dad looked across the table at me, pouring catsup over my beans to make them more palatable, he became more determined than ever to make a way out for me. When you finish college, Son, he told me, his eyes glistening, You'll never have to eat beans again...unless you want to. The first Christmas after our daughter Jessica was born, we spent the holiday with my parents. After dinner, Mom and Dad sat next to each other on the sofa, taking turns cuddling their first grandchild. Jessica began to whimper softly, and Susan took her from Dad's arms. She probably needs to be changed, she said, carrying the baby into my parents' bedroom to diaper her. When Susan came back into the living room, there was a strange mist in her eyes. She handed Jessica back to Dad before taking my hand and leading me into the room. Look, she said softly, her eyes directing me to a spot on the floor beside the dresser. To my amazement, there, as if it had never been removed, stood the old pickle jar, the bottom already covered with coins. I walked over to the pickle jar, dug down into my pocket, and pulled out a fistful of coins. With a gamut of emotions choking me, I dropped the coins into the jar. I looked up and saw that Dad, carrying Jessica, had slipped
[Goanet]RE: Goan Joke
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Joaquim Cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaquim Cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Dear Mr. Pinto An incident similar to your joke occurred in real here in Kuwait. Incidently, this guy also was one Mr. Pinto who had not visited his native Karnataka for a long long time. A Goan male maid died and the coffin needed to be accompanied by some one. He was Pintos old friend and therefore offered his help in reaching the body to Goa. In packing his small briefcase (may be 10 Kg.) he bought a bigger one to fit in the other stuff. And then another one. So total 3 pieces of baggage. An used TV and a video which he claimed was gifted by his departed friend. His total baggage weight easily crossed 100 kilograms and he left. On reaching Goa Pinto managed to find the airport manager to whom he gave the documents and rushed to the Vasco Rly station immediately. Pinto reached home but the dead body remained for a long time until Pinto had to return the next day to prove he had accompanied the body. This Pinto was little greedy and its a true story. No jokes on dead bodies please. Relish it. Jack. Stanley Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gadzooks! Is there no limit to Goan ingenuity? Not to mention not-so-petty larceny? - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]BAINA - DEMOLITIONS -- SGPIAG VIEW POINT
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from President\\(sgpiag\\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:37:37 +0100 (BST) From: President\\(sgpiag\\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A representative of our regd NGO based in Margao with jurisdiction over the entire South Goa Parliamentary constituency visited on 15.6.2004 the entire affected area (called so for brevity ) at Baina Mormugao to examine in situ the post 14.6.2004 scenario and collated a few facts (in cognito ) based on personal talks with the affected persons The area comes under 24 Mormugao Assembly Constituency 15 Mormugao P.W.D. Office (Water Supply) Baina Sea Shore (Part) Voters 793 776 1569 with 30 new fresh voters 16 Mormugao Govt. High School Baina Sea Shore (Part) voters 518 + 476 (994) Natives of Goa atleast by name are about 165 residents The area is roughly over 3500 sq mts (adjoining PTS 116 Chalta 74 private property of A S De Souza) belonging to the Government and Mormugao Municipality. The area in the pre-Liberation Days used to be frequented by sailors calling at India's natural harbour Mormugao. Except for the sexual escapades of these sailors from far away land by and large the social evenings were like any part of Goa - keeping with its Latin style image. It was only when the developmental activities started in Goa mainly post Liberation that women who faded sexually with age and went out of trade took up the role of MADAMs also called Gharwaliswho initiated others from outside the State -- many who were brought in from drought prone areas -- in the name of manual labour were eventually per force and circumstances initiated in the sex trade a few Goan widows or damsel in distress were also actively associated but they no more operate from this end or the figure has drastically staggered. The situation pre 14.6.2004 was clearly different the women in the trade were confident that the area would no more harbour their activities. It was NOT yet notified as a red light area though branded as one . After the continued strict police checks post October 2000 (BJP coalition in power) many had abandoned the profession or left for their native places . Most sold the areas to genuine labour families that were employed on the nominal muster rolls with Port agencies. The message to the sailors and Indian domestic tourists was in BAINA now KAIM NA --meaning in Konkani language there is nothing. The first credit went to ex MLA John Manuel Vaz and now to CM Manohar Parrikar for restoring the Baina Beach a city beach for the people of Vasco da Gama as the residents discreetly confide. Since the area had above 3000 residents numerous grocery shops about 23 bars eateries sprung up. In fact to say that there was a red light area existent today in 2004 is a figment of imagination. Many of the Commercial Sex Workers who used to operate from this end have either gone back to their native land or spread out to other cities in Goa. By now they have changed their attire and adopted dresswear akin to the native Goans they can easily move around as Goan village girls in jean pants etc The Supreme Court of India judgement in the case of Gaurav Jain vs Union of India 1997 (8) SCC 114 listed measures for the rehabilitation of Commercial Sex workers in general (not Goa specific) and -- directed a) re-adjustment and rehabilitation by economic empowerment b) social justice and self sustenance c) equality of status and dignity as personsin truth and reality and for social integration to achieve this a) setting up of State Committee b) Local Committee c) Advisory Committee d) Monitoring Committee e) Child Development Committee A writ petition filed in the High Court of Judicature at Panaji No:365 of 1997 with Civil Application No 206/97 was first heard on 20.10.1997. Thereafter The National Commission for Women in New Delhi had constituted a Committee under Justice G D Kamat (retd) to enquire and investigate into the problems of women in prostitution in Baina Mormugao Goa and they submitted the Committee submitted their recomendations on 6.9.1998 But these recommendations pertain to the period pre October 2000 and the conditions no more exist today. It was only in July 2003 that the Hon'ble High Court of Bombay at Goa - Panaji Bench directed State Government to a) take steps as per the SC judgement and the Justice G D Kamat report for the rehabilitation of Commercial Sex Workers b) if the 200 cubicle constructions are illegal ( and they are as per our examination) to take steps TO EVICT THE ILLEGAL OCCUPANTS c) to take steps to ensure
[Goanet]RE: Re: Action more than words
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:29:45 -0400 From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] George: I am so glad to know that we agree on much and we are saying the same thing. Do you think I could have your support to encourage Goan organizations to promote and publicize Goan-English books at Goa Sudharop and other G.O.A. and WGD events? Let's have some action. Gilbert George: Some clarifications... 1. I did not know we 'crossed swords'. When two people disagree or work towards a consensus they are having a discussion. I rarely think debate or even crossed swords. 2. I wrote in my individual capacity, not as President of Goa Sudharop. I belong to too many organizations and unless I sign as Chair or President, my views are my own and should not be viewed as representative of any organization I belong too. 3. I am not against having Guest Speakers/Chief Guests. Most Goan functions, including those I organize have them. I was opposed to having Chief Guests post their speeches in Goan cyberspace as we have enough hot-air and unabashed self-promotion as it is. 4. You are correct for not taking credit for the idea of having Cheif Guests since that is an established idea. Regards, George --- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last year I 'crossed swords' with Goa Sudharop about having a chief guest at Goan functions. It was with delight I noted the President of the organization write that we should invite guests for this year's WGD function to talk about Jobs for Goans and that these chief guests would be role models for our youth. I am not taking credit for this idea as this does not take much explanation. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Fwd: Operation Red-light
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from jeronimo fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:58:41 +0100 (BST) From: jeronimo fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello Sandeeph/ goa netters Read the article by Sandeep Heble, and the main question that arises after Operation Red-light Now what? Being the oldest profession, which has been denied its existence, will it yield to more rapes? As per the articles, this red light area existed since many years, and inspite of this many people had opted to staying in this area, settled there, many housings did come, and people bought the properties, and settled there inspite of knowing the negative aspects of their surroundings, so the question of rights does not arise. What the government has done is both condemnable and not, condemnable cause they destroyed houses of people who were not involved in this business, they also did not pre-plan what is to be done to all the people involved in this business, and not because that places needed a cleanup. But I just wonder what will be the end result of this. Rapes have already started taking place in Goa, but pray, that with the stop of the only pleasurable place, it does not happen in every nook and corner. The other question is why did the governement take this decision? Is it because the hotel lobby was behind it? They wanted the area to build five star hotels? I think the best place to repartriate the women folks would have been near Monahar Parikars house, and he would have had many Monica Levinskys in his backyard. God Bless Goa. God protect our women folks. Jerry Fernandes - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Margaret Mascarenhas comments on GHAG debate
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:23:19 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] The debate so far... Ethel ethel.dacosta at timesgroup.com wrote a fiery article in Goan Observer questioning the GHAG objectives. Cecil cpinto at sancharnet.in wanted to know how much was spent on 'publicity' by the GHAG, as compared to actual activities. Rajiv rajivd_goa at sancharnet.in replied on behalf of the GHAG Now writer and activist Margaret mmasc at sancharnet.in gives her take below. Margaret... Some comments on Rajiv's rejoinder to Ethel's article, beginning with this one: --- Ethel.. working with the government --- Rajiv... There is a broader logic at work behind our policy of working in partnership with the government whenever possible. We know that saving one or two buildings here and there only amounts to winning small battles, nay, skirmishes. The big picture is that our state has some wonderful heritage sites, both natural and man-made, and we need broad, effective laws and a comprehensive list to back it up for there to be any hope of saving whatever is left of our heritage. This, as mentioned earlier, requires enormous political will on the part of the government, and would be impossible to achieve if we were seen as inimical to the government. Our brand of activism has never been one of confrontation and street tamashas, and we are prepared to concede a few small battles to win the war. Nevertheless, working with the government is a case-by-case policy, and we have opposed the government on many occasions in the past, notably in the case of the de-notification of the Massano De Armorim buildings, which was eventually reverted to its original status due to pressure from us. Margaret... I agree mostly with all the previous points, but, sorry, this one is simply a bold faced lie. And although I have kept my mouth shut previously, thinking it was best in the interest of the larger conservation picture, I have now changed my mind. I have changed my mind, because increasingly, I see GHAG as not representing the public interest as much as its own, or rather as representing Heta Pandit; as an organisation that routinely manipulates other activists and member of the art community indiscriminately towards its own ends which are never clearly spelt out at the beginning; as not being transparent to the public, nor to those whose help it solicits; as not providing any support to other conservationists due to its fear of taking any strong stand on conservation vis a vis the government; and yet, as seeing Heritage as its own unique preserve. And here I am in full agreement with Ethel. Re Massano de Amorim: I was personally asked by Heta to coordinate an activist movement to oppose both the weird and ridiculous proposal by the then Municipality to redesign the Municipal Garden, as well as the demolition of the Massano de Amorim buildings. I had, she indicated full authority to proceed as she would be out of town for some time, and as the Garden and Massano de Amorim issues were of great urgency. Accordingly, I put together a think tank consisting of concerned citizens and NGO reps from Goa Foundation, Goadesc, GHAG, the Saligao consumer forum and others. We came with a two fold plan: 1) to stage a music festival at the garden to show how it can be publicly utilised as a community event centre on World Heritage Day; 2) to publicly promote, in between sets, the issue of the Massano de Amorim buildings. I solicited musicians, who agreed to play free to the cause I had laid out as above; I contacted light and sound people to donate what was required, which they did; I contacted citizens and journalists to participate in the event. Heta was in fact out of town during the preliminary discussions, represented in the meetings by her first lieutenant, Raya Shankhwaler, GHAG's only real job was to obtain permission from the Municipality for the event, which they did. Heta Pandit only appeared for the last meeting, at which point she fully endorsed all that we had done. But here is what transpired subsequently: The morning of the event itself, Heta met with me and summarily informed me in what has become her trademark autocratic Queen of Sheba mode that she had invited Mr Parrikar to attend the event and therefore GHAG would not speak on conservation issues, nor, indeed, on anything at all, and (here's the real zinger) neither would she permit anyone else to speak. As
[Goanet]PACI announcement
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:51:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] PACI announces launching smart system for Civil ID-card renewal The Public Authority for Civil Information (PACI) announced Sunday the launching of a smart system for renewing ID-cards at a cost of KD 35,000. PACI' s Director General Abdulrahman Al-Shayji said in a press conference that by dialing 889988 and entering the ID number, both nationals and expatriates can renew their ID-cards both inside and outside the country in a totally paperless procedure. With this system, one no longer needs submit a renewal envelope, passport copy, sponsor's declaration, residence permit copy and photos as the system accesses the database of the Ministry of Interior to update residence and sponsorship information in less than 15 seconds, he said. Al-Shayji noted, however, that this service does not cover change of address or photo, lost or damaged ID-cards and first time registration, adding that the renewed ID-card will be ready within 24 hours of calling the service which can be used between 2:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. PACI s smart system, which can accommodate 3,500 to 4,000 calls daily, is one of the e-government projects. (courtesy: www.indiansinkuwait.com) - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]http://spiritualdirection.org/Newsletter-Glow04Summer.htm
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Ariosto J. Coelho, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:37:40 -0700 From: Ariosto J. Coelho, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] MOGALL IXXT - Hello Friends, Permit me to introduce to you the Newsetter of Spiritual Direction: Interfaith Catholic. HYPERLINK http://spiritualdirection.org/Newsletter-Glow04Summer.htmhttp://spirit ualdirection.org/Newsletter-Glow04Summer.htm It's summer! Time to relax. Take a break. Meditate. Do fun things. Time to resume duties. Study. Pray. Go to work. Time to enjoy the shining sun or refreshing rain As the case may be. This Summer I want to share with you SEVEN PAINTINGS OF LIGHT WITHIN, SEVEN MINDFULNESS PRACTICES and A SHORT STORY. Please let me know if you're interested in further developments of the story. Vivian and I wish you PEACE and GLORY: XÀNTI ani MOIMA. Mog assom di ani vaddom di. Ariosto Coelho President www.SpiritualDirection.org - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]NRI-Goa Facilitation Centre
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 03:09:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Goa-World.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] NRI-Goa Facilitation Centre Crystal Focus Club welcomes and conveys its heartiest congratulations to the newly reconstituted Executive Committee of NRI-Goa Facilitation Centre and the appointed Monitoring Committee and Advisory Committee of NRIs residing in various foreign countries. We are pleased to convey our support and cooperation to the NRI-Goa Facilitation Centre Team in its mission of serving the Goan Diaspora in Kuwait and worldwide. Wishing the Team all success for the year ahead. Hilda Aguiar President - Crystal Focus Club-Kuwait Crystal Focus Club [EMAIL PROTECTED] Link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/4244 Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter since 1994 is moderated by [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R @LMEID@, Associate goa-world.com presented by Ulysses Menezes, Owner goa-world.com website. All postings archived at www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]AMCHEM GOA - OUR GOA - NOSSA TERRA GOA
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Oscar Hazel Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:49:01 +1000 From: Oscar Hazel Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mates, Sorry for my failure in not endorsing a copy of the appended e-mail. The website was launched last month. When time permits you, please go through the website and pass the address to other Goans in your circle of family and friends. Cheers Oscar - Original Message - From: Oscar Hazel Lobo Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: AMCHEM GOA - OUR GOA - NOSSA TERRA GOA Hi All, I am pleased to inform you, that a new website www.melgoans.com has been created. This website is designed to keep our circa 9000 Goans (in Melbourne) and their friends in touch with our Culture and Heritage. One does not have to be a 'member' to come along for functions; however, one has to have a broad mind to come, enjoy and not to worry ( no worries mate ) in areas of hierarchy or other speculations. Man has conquered the moon but he has yet to conquer the art of togetherness and assimilation. Please enjoy the website and the music and communicate the website address to others who may have a genuine interest in friendship and progression. Until me meet, Meochem maghir, ate logo! Recad tumcam (Regards to you all) Oscar - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: flights to Goa from manchester
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Nick Chawala [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:18:48 +0100 From: Nick Chawala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there For anyone requiring Visas for India (Portuguese passport holders) or flights tickets to Bombay/Goa/Lisbon or anywhere else in the World, give us a call or pop into the office well be pleased to assist. We offer competitive rates And a very good personalised service. Regards Nick Chawala flightlinker.com 175 Westcott Place Swindon (UK) Wilts SN1 5HT *Direct Dial +44(0)1793 491747 *Direct Fax +44(0)1793 333069 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.flightlinker.com - Forwarded message from cathglyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 13:03:35 +0100 From: cathglyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for flights to Goa. Leaving Manchester on or around 30th December for 28 nights with or without Dormhouse accomodation for 2 adults 2 children and 2 infants. Many thanks. Cath Roberts - End forwarded message - - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Corridinho.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:06:56 +0900 From: Helga do Rosario Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes Gabe, I liked that one too very much. As for the whole version of Malhão instead of just a clip you could buy the CD 'Portuguese Folk Music' on amazon.com. It has the song and costs about 14$ --Helga - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:13 AM The Abril em Portugal, is certainly well performed on the site below, our Goenkars could do an enchanting cha cha to it! Cheers, - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: THE NIGHTINGALE OF GOA `LORNA' TO PERFORM IN UK
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 9 Jun 2004 19:16:36 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its always wonderful to read about our sweet nightangle, the one who made konkani songs a pleasure to hear and sing along. I grew up with her songs and can still sing them by heart. But my apologies to all goan lovers of konkani songs, the modern songs that are heard, are one time listen, I wish, some good song writers could write nice songs for her, so that the next generation would listen to Lorna and say she was a real nightangle of Goa. Jerry - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Public Darbar V/s Janata Darbar
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Floriano Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:30:43 +0530 From: Floriano Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was interesting to read May 30, 2004 Herald Mirror's PUBLIC DARBAR featuring DISTRESSING PUBLIC TRANSPORT SYSTEM by G.M. Salelkar, Panjim and the response by the Junior Traffic Officer Mr. Sanjay Ghate. This Herald's Darbar reminds me of the Darbar Luizinho Faleiro used to run, called the Janata Darbar and as far as I can remember, this Darbar had created more chaos and anarchy in the government administration than solve problems, since the heads of all department were paraded form North to South to quick fix enterprising people's problems. The rest were left to the mercy of the Gods. It amused me to read the following in the response given by 'AUTHORITY SPEAK' by Mr. Ghate Quote Regarding the maintenence of the buses, our managing director have issued orders for the commencement of the maintainence work before the monsoons set in. Unquote This response amused me because, all these years we knew that only the Electricity department was doing the pre monsoon maintenance of the power lines (which unfortunately, now a days, this is being done during the full blown monsoons since lines are tripping off like fire-crackers in a celebration due to the rampant Ullas Nagar electrical items are being pumped into the lines by outside contractors). As far as the public transport road vehicles are concerned, they are supposed to be maintained round the year and only the bald tyres changed with treaded tyres before monsoons. Having had this at the back of my mind, I volunteered to take the Kadamba's shuttle service from Panjim to Vasco yesterday ( 8 June, 2004 at 1015 hours), specially because I did not want to risk doing this trip with my 4 wheeler during heavy rains. Having parked my 4 wheeler off Kadamba bus terminal, I asked my daughter to purchase the tickets as I needed to use the toilet. On reaching the toilet, directed by the signboard displayed, I found the entire bank of urinals being renovated and in dug-up conditions. When asked where to find the temporary or the other toilet, I was told that there was none in the complex and that I would have to use the sulab toilet located at the perimeter of the terminus. Not wanting to walk a mile, and wondering where the load of people at the terminus would relieve themselves, I walked back to the shuttle. My daughter was seated in the mini-bus and it was full except the front seat. The driver and the conductor were yet to board the shuttle. As I entered, I noticed a pile of human vomit on the floor, on the foot rest of the front seat, behind the driver's seat. And that was that. Pointing to the pile, I told the passengers, including my daughter, that they were all goats and pigs seating in a bus in this condition. Pulling my daughter out of the bus I charged to the ticketing room and pulled one khaki clad guy by his arm and showed him the pile. It was a real ruckus, a shouting match. I demanded and got my fare back and in the melee I heard some of the conductors/drivers telling me that if I wanted to make noise, to go and make the noise in the concerned officer's cabin. To that I asked them if they expected the Chairman or the Managing Director of the Kadamba or the Transport Minister himself to come with a broom and a water hose to do their job, I would certainly go tell them. There ended my shuttle trip to Vasco. I had to make it in my 4 wheeler. Relating this incident to the lady I went to see in the Salgaokar Chambers, the tale of woes of daily commuters in the shuttle service poured out as the lady herself was a daily commuter to Vasco from Panjim and back. Things like ' The shuttle never leaves on time 'Waits until it is full 'Seats are too small specially for two well fed persons' 'Rickety and filthy', 'Irresponsible driving'. The tale was long. The general impression is that our State runs Cattle Transport Corporation instead of the kadamba Transport Corporation with Mr. Arun Desai as its Managing Director and the haughty, arrogant 'know it all' Mr. Manohar Parrikar as its Chairman, who also doubles as Goa's Chief Minister. If I had the time, yesterday, I would have made it to their respective cabins with a broom and a water bucket so that they could do their jobs effectively. And I needn't have to wait in line at the Secretariat to get a pass to see the haughty CM either. The General Elections 2004 has seen to it that it has rubbed some of the arrogance
[Goanet]Schooling in Anjuna area of Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Julie Wickenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 18:30:03 +0100 From: Julie Wickenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone. We are thinking of moving to Anjuna from England in the next two years or so. At that time our son will be 12/13 and will have completed one or two years in an England secondary school. Does anyone have knowledge of English/international schools in the area for that age group and preferably, have experience of sending a child to one of the schools. Any information would be appreciated as this is obviously one of the most important considerations before leaving England for good! Many thanks Julie - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]TAME
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from francisw braz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 10:19:13 -0700 (PDT) From: francisw braz [EMAIL PROTECTED] PRESS RELEASE Margao 8th June 2004. 51 Diplomas / Certificate issued by Human Resource Development Foundation H.R.D.F. Government of Goa were awarded at the hands of The Hon. Minister for Power Mr. Digambar Kamat to the successful students of Tourism Airline Management Education TAME. Speaking on the Occasion the Minister appealed to both the parents and youth that students who secure a lower percentage should opt for vocational courses which in turn are job oriented, rather than make rush for science stream. He congratulated the young students for choosing the hospitality career and was happy to note that most of them had already gained gainful employment with reputed hotels and cruiseliners. He appreciated the efforts of the Management of TAME for their role played in Hospitality Education. In his address the Director of TAME said that due to overwhelming response from the parents and students and the urgent need of the hour the Management has decided to start the first Hotel Management College in Margao early next year which would be a boon to the students of Goa in general and Salcete in particular. He further stated that TAME had successfully revised the syllabus and French has been added as a non-examination subject to the curriculum. He highlighted the results i.e. overall percentage for the year 2002 03is 92.7%. with the students in Diploma in Tourism and Hotel Management 91%. Besides all students coached by TAME for IATA Foundation course for year March 2004 were declared successful. Mr. Roshan Viegas stood first in the Tourism and Hotel Management. Ms. Rachel Torres e Silva stood first in International Airline, Travel and Tourism Management. Mr. Supriyo proposed the vote of thanks and the Function was compered by Mr. Rodrigues Head of F B Service Department. Godfather General - End forwarded message - Goanet Admin comments: Attached photographs removed.
[Goanet]KIFF bades farewell to Anselmo Furtado
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] KIFF bades farewell to Anselmo Furtado On 4th June 2004 Kuwait Indian Football Federation (KIFF) bade farewell to one of its long serving member, Anselmo Furtado, at a brief ceremony held on Sour Grounds, Kuwait. All the four semifinalists of the KIFF league alongwith the KIFF Committee members and Presidents of KIFF affiliated clubs wished Anselmo Furtado better prospects in future who is migrating to the United States. Mr Furtado was the P.R.O. of KIFF for season 2003-2004. He was also the former President of CRC Chinchinim for almost a decade. KIFF will surely miss the services of Anselmo Furtado as he was a core member of any policy making decisions of the federation. He also had a wealth of knowledge of the KIFF constitution as well as the other rules and regulations of the federation. We wish Anselmo Furtado all the very best in his future endeavors and May God bless him. Xavier Furtado General Secretary - KIFF www.goa-world.com/sports/ - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Last Respects - Death of Mario Troy Gomes (Kuwait)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] With profound grief we announce the sad demise of our Dearest Mario Troy Gomes, who passed away on Sunday, June 6, 2004. Body will be flown to Goa. Last respects can be paid at the morgue at Al Sabah Hospital on Wednesday, 9th June 2004 between 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. There will be a Holy Mass at the Holy Family Cathedral-Kuwait on the same evening - 9th June 2004 at 5:30 p.m. offered by his sorrowful family and relatives. Eternal Rest Grant unto Him Oh Lord and Let Your perpetual light shine upon him. May his soul rest in peace. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Abbe Faria
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:24:28 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] June 7 Hi, Too long a synopsis. $45 for the book? As they say in the US, give me a break. Books are cheaper in India, and it would be nice to get a paperback version at a low cost. Thank you for all the interesting stuff you forward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: GOAVOICES: The Toy Soldier (by Tony Fernandes)
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Zelma G DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:29:24 +0400 From: Zelma G DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very well written. I had a lump in my throat as I read through the story ! I pictured myself in the little boy's shoes, and had a picture of him, his home, mother and the Toy Soldier which he grew to love so much. Zelma De Souza Abu Dhabi. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]GT Online
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from Reuven Proenca [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 4 Jun 2004 10:57:47 - From: Reuven Proenca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all!! We may not have a website but here is a voluntary effort to put GT online: http://gomantaktimes.rediffblogs.com Please spread the good word. Warm regards Reuven - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Request
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Forwarded message from Maryann Dsouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3 Jun 2004 04:51:40 - From: Maryann Dsouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to trace a friend with whom I have lost contact. Her name is Audrey Pinto and she lives in Bambolim. She used to be my classmate in the 80s in Panchgani. I was told that her family runs a photocopying/ typing enterprise in Panjim. I would like to touch base with her. If anyone knows her e-mail address/tel. no., please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Maryann - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: St. Annes Church, Goa, Taulolim.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from lino dourado [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: lino dourado [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Kharade, Please contact Cecil Pinto. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lino nikhil ramesh kharade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R/Sir/Madam, I am Nikhil Kharade from Mumbai. A practicing Architect in a Structural firm. I would like to have information regarding St. Anne`s church, Taulolim, Goa. I would like to have snaps, detailed architectural information, as per your availability, I would be very thankful to you for this. Nikhil. http://www.goa-world.net/poems http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]flights to Goa from manchester
## # Is Goanet not reaching you? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]# # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from cathglyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 13:03:35 +0100 From: cathglyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for flights to Goa. Leaving Manchester on or around 30th December for 28 nights with or without Dormhouse accomodation for 2 adults 2 children and 2 infants. Many thanks. Cath Roberts - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest - Konkani hymns
## # Is Goanet not reaching you? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]# # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## - Forwarded message from elton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 15:11:23 +0300 From: elton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anisa, I overheard that Lino B Dourado is in the process of launching a hymns link in the GOAWORLD website. Gasper , I hope you are listening. Elton - End forwarded message -
[Goanet]Re: Is the Divar Church bigger than the Aldona Church?
- Forwarded message from Rooh Bee [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 28 May 2004 11:04:15 - From: Rooh Bee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marlon, had a great laugh at this one Funny how Christ wants only our hearts and we want to give our time, our money, our appearances, our name, our status, our views everything else except our hearts! He who loved us even to the point of death and beyond all imagination only wants to have a friendship with us... May we fulfill His One Desire! Rooh Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cecil, With my father coming from Divar and my mother from Aldona, I believe I am particularly qualified to delve into this matter in greater detail. - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Gleehive Choir to perform in Panjim before leaving for Germany
- Forwarded message from Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:06:51 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chorfestival 2004 is an international youth choir festival being held in Cologne, Germany, from July 11, 2004 to July 18, 2004. This is being conducted by an international organisation called Pueri Cantores. The theme of the festival is World Peace and is promoted by Nationalverband der Pueri Cantores Deutschland. Joachim Kardinal Meisner is the patron of the festival. 200 participating choirs from around the world will perform in various German towns and cities. The grand finale will be held in Cologne where one of the festival highlights is 6000 participants performing together. The venue for the finale is the world famous Cologne Cathedral. Gleehive has been selected as the only choir from India to participate in this event. With a choir strength of 30 children in the age group of 14 to 18 years, The Gleehive shall perform a selection of Indo-Western pieces specially composed for the ocassion as well as international pieces from the common choir booklet. Prominent personalities from the music industry such as Rajat Dholakia, Indian lyricist Satyam Clinton Cerejo (Music Arranger/Producer) will be working closely with music director composer Celeste Cordo on the musical compositions and arrangements. GLEEHIVE A Profile Music is a powerful means of communication. It fashions our thinking, aids emotional growth in children and makes the world a better place to live in. Children who have music as part of their staple diet, grow up as tomorrows sensible and responsible citizens. Years ago, Celeste Cordo saw a void in this area and set out to do something about it. She initiated a program that would give to children what they like most Good Music. What started 20 years ago with a bunch of teenyboppers is today GLEEHIVE , a much in demand childrens choral group in Mumbai. Celeste is a music teacher. She has been a part of the Bombay Chamber Orchestra (played First Violin), conducted several choirs, trained children in several schools Fort Convent, St. Aloysius, St. Josephs, been Music Director to many of the citys popular musicals for adults and children like Annie, Witness Pinocchio, etc. Gleehive provides children with opportunities to explore the rich culture of western music, in particular choral music. Though the primary focus is singing, children get an opportunity to involve themselves in other disciplines of stage-craft for example: acting, dancing, playing a musical instrument, scripting, etc. Gleehive helps children to develop not only pitch and tone but also sensitivity to others Past Gleehive Performances: Gleehive has staged several original musicals and presented several choral performances. The group has even sung back-up vocals for professional Pop singers such as Sony Music international artiste Joey Mc Intire (New Kids on The Block fame), the A. R. Rehman Concert for Filmfare Awards, etc. The groups repertoire ranges from classical masters such as Mozart, to Jazz, Pop and even Indi-Pop. Gleehive recently appeared for a Bronze Choral Assessment examination conducted by the Trinity College of Music Drama (London). This examination was held in Mumbai in November, 2003. Gleehive scored 93% of a total of 100%. Gleehive is in the process of recording its own music album. Several Gleehivers sing regularly for advertising jingles and other music albums GOA PERFORMANCE: On May 29, 2004, Gleehive will be performing in Goa at the Kala Academy, Panjim === - End forwarded message - Apologies for the delay in forwarding the above - Goanet Admin ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Help needed
- Forwarded message from James d'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:25:22 +0100 (BST) From: James d'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this is true I will submit this letter to the US Media, they will do anything to help. JD Sarah Machado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Goanetters, This is in response to Seb's posting earlier on GoaNet titled ''Job seekers be aware'. I have a friend, whose son is in Iraq, working in the catering section supposedly with the US Army there. His contract was actually for a Star Hotel in Kuwait, but just after three months there, he and a few other boys were packed off to Iraq to work for the US Army Base Camp. They were told that if they wished to return home they would have to find their own way. Since they had already the Agents in Goa and Mumbai large sums for recruiting them, they were helpless. - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Does God really exist?
- Forwarded message from Joseph and Fiona DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 07:22:04 + From: Joseph and Fiona DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Sandeep Heble, Please read the Bible and I am sure you will find your answer in it. If still not convinced then join a believers church in Panaji or Mapusa and you will know for sure that God does really exists. As for me I believe and I truly know that God exists and you are one of his unique creation. God Bless You, Jofi. Post Classifieds on MSN classifieds. Buy and Sell on MSN Classifieds. - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Deccan odyssey
- Forwarded message from Andy Williamson Ruth DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 07:39:27 +1200 From: Andy Williamson Ruth DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kia Ora, Greeetings from New Zealand I am planning a trip to Goa and have been looking into a train trip from Mumbai to Goa. Can anyone recommend the train trip? And has anyone tried the Deccan odyssey? Also any hints on acccomodation in Mumbai? I am hoping to do some voluntary work for Sangath while I am there (teaching).(http://www.sangath.com http://www.sangath.com/ ) Sangath Centre, 841/1 Alto Porvorim, Goa 403521, India Ruth ::ruth de souza ::wairua consulting limited ::po box 60-517 | Titirangi ::waitakere city | aotearoa/new zealand ::www.wairua.com/ruth - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]the 'R' Factor in 'The Passion of the Christ'
- Forwarded message from Rooh Bee [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 28 Apr 2004 06:15:37 - From: Rooh Bee [EMAIL PROTECTED] The R of course is because of the violence, the gore. In movie terms R stands for RESTRICTED, but in this movie R stands for RELEVANT, for REALISTIC, for it REALLY happened for a REASON because we were REBELLIOUS we needed a REDEEMER, we needed to be RECONCILED, and we needed to be RECOVERED, we needed to be REGENERATED. Jesus needed to be REJECTED so that we could have a RELATIONSHIP not just a RELIGION. The R is to REMIND us to REMEMBER what Jesus did to REMOVE our sin to RENDER Satan powerless, to RESCUE us from eternity in hell. The R rating is to show that Jesus was RESPONSIBLE for giving you REST. As a RESULT of his death Jesus RETIRED your debt. The R rating means that some will be REPULSED, some will REFUSE to believe, some will be RELUCTANT, some will think you are RIDICULOUS in believing that a death was REQUIRED. The R rating means that the RESULT of sin has been REVERSED and now through faith in Christ your REWARD is eternity and you are now RIGHTEOUS before God because you have RECEIVED him as the RULER of your soul. What a REVOLUTIONARY and RADICAL solution to REDEEM mankind. Thank you Jesus... 'Onwards 2 Zion' Cell : ++ 91 98203 61555 email :[EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Goa could do with a bigger presence on the Net
- Forwarded message from Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 1 May 2004 18:56:30 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fred/goanetters When our present cheap minister took the chair, and when I read about his IT Profession, I had assumed that we had another Chandra Babu Naidu in the making. Now that was many years ago since the last election. Unfortunately, I cannot vote, but nevertherless I was happy that we have someone of Chandra Babus capabilities now who will take Goa to the heights. Who knew that the heights that we see, our chief minister was seeing from some depths, and hence his heights were only our normal vision? Who instead of building Goa with his IT degree, was building Goa as a BJP/VHP paradise? If only our cheap minister had used his education, Goa would have been a hub by now in the international community, and who knows would have been know as CYBERGOA? Thanks Jerry - End forwarded message - Hello Fred/goanetters When our present cheap minister took the chair, and when I read about his IT Profession, I had assumed that we had another Chandra Babu Naidu in the making. Now that was many years ago since the last election. Unfortunately, I cannot vote, but nevertherless I was happy that we have someone of Chandra Babus capabilities now who will take Goa to the heights. Who knew that the heights that we see, our chief minister was seeing from some depths, and hence his heights were only our normal vision? Who instead of building Goa with his IT degree, was building Goa as a BJP/VHP paradise? If only our cheap minister had used his education, Goa would have been a hub by now in the international community, and who knows would have been know as CYBERGOA? Thanks Jerry
[Goanet]Re: GOANS FIRST = Agenda 2004 in Year of the YOUTH
- Forwarded message from Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 1 May 2004 18:50:33 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello Terence Maria and all goa netters. First a dream is formed, from the dream comes an idea, from that idea an action takes place, and that action is what we want, and I salute Terence Mazarelo for this. I pray that his action takes place soon, and countless Goans get job opportunities in our very own Goa. Cheers Jerry - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: The Sonia-Quattrocchi connection By Dina Nath Mishra
- Forwarded message from Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 1 May 2004 18:31:43 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello mr. N Krishna. Its been a long time since I read any good fiction, and well you have the touch to be a good fiction writer. Why not write a book, which might hit the instant best sellers in the international market? You might make instant millions and will be a name to be recognised among the best writers of present times. Well no wonder according to you the minorities are the richest people in India all thanks to the Italian Mafia, who pay great sums to them every month, hence our esteemed government thinks they should give more job opportunities to those who dont belong to the minorities especially our very own goan government? If Sonia Gandhi can get such a support from the majority (those elected by the majority) than there must be something there. Isnt it? Or is the writer more of a mystery writer? Looks like the Bofors will never die, isnt it? With BJP ruling the government for the last 5 years, were they sleeping that they decided to wake up just before election? Why was this file not closed once and for all and all thepeople punised accordingly? Basically what the writer wants to say is that all those who support Sonia are fools, who have been bribed by the high ranking mafiso of italy, and soon it will be the Italians who will be rulling the Indian Government. Wow, that one has to see, a hand full of Italians taking for a ride more than a billion Indians, with more educated Indians than the whole of Italy, who at present rule the roost of IT INDUSTRY all over the world. Well just few days ago, I read about the sari stampade, was that done by Sonia too? The writer by writing this article is just proving that that BJP has no capability of ruling the country, and the India shinning (according to BJP) has been just a hype. If not why this sudden fear? Accusing all the elected heads of different states like Lallo Prasad Yadav, CPI(M), DMK, PDF, if they have done wonders to our wonderful country, than they have nothing to fear, and they will win by absolute majority. Hypocracy will not get them anywhere. Cheers Jerry - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: FEATURE: In a Goa beyond visitors' eyes
- Forwarded message from Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 30 Apr 2004 14:33:34 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello readers, There is one in a million chances of any person deciding his own life, his own future, and such persons are not born everyday, they are put on this earth by God on purpose. He has chosen them and He has planned their future. And two of these people have been Bernie and Greg. From a distance I congratulate them both for their mission. And pray that God always guides them and helps them through many people. Amen Jerry Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:09:35 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a Goa beyond visitors' eyes [PS: I couldn't locate the author's name for this piece. Greg and Bernie were earlier also featured in the national newsmagazine 'Outlook'. -FN] - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Non-Practicing Goan Catholics
- Forwarded message from Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 30 Apr 2004 14:11:11 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks like someone likes to read in between the lines, and come to ones own conclusion. For one thing Christ never preached about this stonning thing. He only tried to put a stop to it, hence He said whoever is without sin let him cast the first stone remember He gave us a wonderful gift of Confession and Forgiveness. From: Lawrence Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:51:18 +0530 How do you deal with an unruly son? Well, according to Deuteronomy 21:18-21, you are well within your rights to take him outside and stone him to death...ML It was also preached by Christ, who ever is without sin let him cast the first stone! - GM best regards Jerry - End forwarded message - Looks like someone likes to read in between the lines, and come to ones own conclusion. For one thing Christ never preached about this stonning thing. He only tried to put a stop to it, hence He said whoever is without sin let him cast the first stone remember He gave us a wonderful gift of Confession and Forgiveness. From: Lawrence Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GoaNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Non-Practicing Goan Catholics Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:51:18 +0530 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do you deal with an unruly son? Well, according to Deuteronomy 21:18-21, you are well within your rights to take him outside and stone him to death...ML It was also preached by Christ, who ever is without sin let him cast the first stone! - GM best regards Jerry
[Goanet]RE: Antwort: why Sonia? Are we all Indians/ or Indian passort holders?
- Forwarded message from Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:56:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have no problem with Sonia Gandhi's ethnicity. My wife is Italian. Sometimes, she's more Indian than I am. :-) It's all good. Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nealpinto.com - --- On Tue 04/20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:21:00 +0200 brPlease add to Gracias article.brbrMogall Goiemkars,brbrTo say that Mrs. Sonia Gandhi is not indian because she is white colouredbrwoman or not born in India or some other insignificant words dedicated tobrher,bris ridiculous. - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Branding India (by Sunil Khilnani)
- Forwarded message from Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:21:48 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] This essay is by a noted writer and scholar (author of *The Idea of India*) who incidentally also has a home in Saligao. FN -- Forwarded message -- Branding India By Sunil Khilnani in Delhi Seminar / 15 December 2003 http://www.india-seminar.com/2004/533/533%20sunil%20khilnani.htm DEFINITIONS of national identity are never fixed, immutable, graven images: they are protean, changeable, fabulous beasts. National identity is a form of story telling, a public narration of tales about who `we' are, and such identities are remade to suit current tastes and requirements. So, when Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee recently announced that `today the Made in India brand is making waves across the globe there is a big demand for Bharat Brand,' while on TV and in magazines, campaigns advertising `Shining India' and `Incredible India' are burning up taxpayers money, we need to ask: what exactly is the brand that is being projected? In the current debates about the future of the international order, the values and principles that nations embody and seek to project have once again acquired great importance. Today, we live in a world where what has been called the `battle of ideas', and of images, is a crucial terrain of action. Even countries that have great economic and military power require what Joseph Nye has called `soft power'; and this is especially true for countries that do not have such material power, as Mahatma Gandhi an early exponent of such soft power long ago recognised. It is somewhat ironic, therefore, that at the moment when India wishes for a more active presence on the world stage, the world's sense of India, of what it stands for and what it wishes to become, seems as confused and divided today as is India's own sense of itself. Let me put it in short hand. Is India's future direction embodied and indicated by the present reality of Bangalore? Recently, the magazine Businessweek (1/12/2003), in a rather lyrical portrait of Bangalore's shiny research centres, put it thus: `Except for the female engineers wearing saris and the soothing Indian pop music wafting through this could be GE's giant research and development facility in the upstate New York town of Niskayuna.' Or, on the other hand, is India's present and future reality captured by the images of horror unleashed in Gujarat last year? The pictures there were of murderous Hindu gangs, led by the rich and educated: doctors, advocates, shopkeepers roved in cars, punched mobile phones and used government supplied computer printouts of Muslim addresses to conduct their systematic mayhem. In Bangalore, one senses the enchanting promise of technology to transform and uplift lives, to take India forward into the global economy. In Gujarat, one feels the brute fact of technology at the service of state sponsored massacres which threaten to drag India back into a dark world of religious bloodshed. Till its recent implosion, Gujarat epitomized a newly emerging India: its aspirational middle class, with strong links to the outside world and to the large, successful Gujarati diaspora, wore proudly a reputation for industry, entrepreneurship and civic mindedness. The conventional wisdom has it that economic progress and the emergence of a middle class promote mode-rate and centrist politics, and as such provide the conditions for a liberal democratic politics. Yet Gujarat is a troubling twist to this view. If we allow that Bangalore represents a possible India, so too does Gujarat. Contrary to some views, Gujarat is not an `aberration' it would be foolish to try to reassure ourselves in this way. For many it represents the first step in the creation of a Hindu rashtra, and what is happening there shows that economic development seems to be entirely compatible with extremist politics. India seems on the face of it poised between such choices. On the one hand, there is a shrink-wrap, software-package India, where `brain arbitrage' is the new spice trade and where India is a global brand name advertising the world's electronic `back office'. On the other, there is a self-inflated, venomous redefinition of India in terms of the ideology of Hindutva where, with mobile phone in one hand and trishul in the other, we see modern technology and medieval weapons turned to lethal ends. A choice between India as Brand Software or as Brand Saffron, between the promise of Bangalore and the threat of Gujarat. And yet the alternatives are in fact more complicated and especially since 11 September 2001, the calculus of choice must be more nuanced. We need to examine the nature and stakes of this choice, a political choice, since there is one to be made. It has of late become
[Goanet]Astrology- A pseudo-science
- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:16:36 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Astrology- A pseudo-science In his book Flim Flam, the well-known American conjuror James Randi recounted how as a young man he briefly got the astrology job on a Montreal newspaper, making up the horoscopes under the name Zo-ran. His method was to cut out the forecasts from old astrology magazines, shuffle them in a hat, distribute them at random among the 12 zodiacal signs and print the results. This was very successful of course, because all the predictions were working on the Barnum principle, of saying things so vague and general that all readers would think that it applied to them. Belief in astrology has become so widespread that many able, highly distinguished and intellectual people today indulge in it. There are many who wish to live in a world governed by fantasy and mystical wonder; where the tall and wild claims of astrologers are generally accepted as the unchallengeable truth. Excessive attention to Astrology is one of the superstitions that is hurting India very badly. The continued uncritical dissemination of astrological charts, forecasts and horoscopes has contributed to the growth of irrationalism and obscurantism. To qualify as a scientific theory, an idea has to be logically consistent, both internally (all of its claims must be consistent with each other) and externally (unless there are good reasons, it must be consistent with theories which are already known to be valid and true). Astrology fails on this score. Neither its basic assumptions nor its predictions conform to the rigorous discipline that science demands. So much of what is claimed about astrology contradicts what is already known and proven in physics. The twinkling stars tell us nothing. Astrology is nothing but hogwash and superstition. As William Shakespeare states in King Lear in his inimitable style: ``This is the excellent foppery of the world, that when we are sick in fortune -often the surfeits of our own behaviour - we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon and stars; as if we were villains on necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion; knaves, thieves and traitors by spherical predominance; drunkards, liars and adulterers by an enforced obedience of planetary influence; and all that we are evil in by a divine thrusting on an admirable evasion of whoremaster man to lay his goatish disposition on the charge of a star!'' If we allow ourselves to be overrun by dangerous superstitions, society faces a most dangerous plight. A society engulfed in superstition is a detriment to itself. The time has come to challenge directly and forcefully this pretentious science of Astrology. The bunkum must be separated from the reality! Sandeep Heble Panaji-Goa - End forwarded message - ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
