[Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Agnelo Mascarenhas wrote: well meaning socialist idiots ground the indian economy to dust before they gave up in 1992. those who exude the virtues of humaness may not understand the unexpected sideeffects of their ideas. The latter assertion is equally true of inhumane capitalist idiots as well. Often times, stupidity is best recognized in the rear view mirror. All ideologies based more on faith than evidence are notorious for underestimating their stupidity. Smart investors often are half an economic cycle away from being idiots. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Marlon, few newspapers will publish letters to the editor without identification of the author. so much for anonymous posting. the word 'bum' refers to a lazy person. inappropriate here, but not synonymous with harlot. within the context of some people wanting to help rehabilitate prostitutes. IMO, only people who *seek* help should be helped. certainly, tax payer money should not be spent on bums. commercialization of sex: singapore has it, yes, but a hundred other nations don't. besides as in your alcohol prohibition example of the US of the 20's, what absolute worth can we assign to singapore's example ? the greatest flaw in the arguments is that they have no foundation in fundamental principles. commercial sex will possibly make marriages redundant. A marriage is a long term commitment to a woman. it being very expensive to support children, specially on the emotional, physical fronts. this cost can be seen with single parents. strenthening commercial sex will destabilize society. I would prefer to be very conservative on such a front. after all it has taken thousands of years to evolve. never underestimate human stupidity. well meaning socialist idiots ground the indian economy to dust before they gave up in 1992. those who exude the virtues of humaness may not understand the unexpected sideeffects of their ideas. agnelo original post: http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-January/008754.html 3. Re: Re: Let's have some humanity here (Marlon Menezes) --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here
PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, opinions better come with a name attached. anonymous opinion is irresponsible. we could end up with kadli jib, layli talleak. heck, even bharati bernardo sticks his name to his opinions! agnelo --__--__-- Message: 17 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:55:33 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The e-mail below was sent to me by a female correspondent of mine. She has two children in their twenties. She does not wish to be identified. -- quote Gosh! That someone actually dares to write crap like this - flush them out! Prostitution is the world's oldest profession and much as we may all want to be neighbours of the ladies, we must accept that in the absence of a social security system which puts food in their mouths (and their children/parents, whatever) a woman will sell her body - as I a sure a man would too. After all, what cost morality when you are dying of hunger? the dogma of fatalism or predestined karma argues that a woman has to prostitute herself out of economic necessity. wrong argument. please note the vast majority of poor women (and men) who work as ayahs, hawkers, farmers, servants etc. Better still is to take a much broader and humane approach - LEGALISE prostitution. Cover the prostitutes under unions, medical protection/insurance schemes. Educate them about the dangers of their profession and within that create as `safe' a working place as possible - free from the exploitation of pimps and other scum that thrive on those who have to sell their bodies. your solution is a positive encouragement of bums. if you reward bums, you end up producing more bums. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Agnelo, It is very likely that Bernado is not using his/her real name. I can fully understand why this person who supports legalizing prostitution will not want to reveal her identity. Unfortunately, many (most?) goans ascribe a moral judgement to the profession of prostitution. For example in your post below, you equated prostitutes to bums. Hence people and specially women, who defend the free choice made my prostitutes may also be stigmatised by society. We all know how fast gossip spreads in Goa. We have already had a long drawn out discussion on this issue before, but I fully support the views of the poster. Barring solving the underlying economic and social factors that result in prostitution, legalizing prostitution is one of the better metions to ensure that the women (and men) who engage in this practice get the best protection and maximum economic rewards for their difficult job. I have seen the benefits of legalized prostitution in Singapore. The system is extremely organized and the workers are well taken care of. Financial and legal transparency has ensured that there is no criminal element to this profession, not unlike what happened after the production of alcohol was legalized in the 1920s in the US. If people are so eager to ban professions, I suggest they first start on enforcing pre-existing bans on things like child labor or indentured labor. Marlon --- Agnelo Mascarenhas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, opinions better come with a name attached. anonymous opinion is irresponsible. we could end up with kadli jib, layli talleak. heck, even bharati bernardo sticks his name to his opinions! agnelo --__--__-- Message: 17 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:55:33 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The e-mail below was sent to me by a female correspondent of mine. She has two children in their twenties. She does not wish to be identified. -- quote Gosh! That someone actually dares to write crap like this - flush them out! Prostitution is the world's oldest profession and much as we may all want to be neighbours of the ladies, we must accept that in the absence of a social security system which puts food in their mouths (and their children/parents, whatever) a woman will sell her body - as I a sure a man would too. After all, what cost morality when you are dying of hunger? the dogma of fatalism or predestined karma argues that a woman has to prostitute herself out of economic necessity. wrong argument. please note the vast majority of poor women (and men) who work as ayahs, hawkers, farmers, servants etc. Better still is to take a much broader and humane approach - LEGALISE prostitution. Cover the prostitutes under unions, medical protection/insurance schemes. Educate them about the dangers of their profession and within that create as `safe' a working place as possible - free from the exploitation of pimps and other scum that thrive on those who have to sell their bodies. your solution is a positive encouragement of bums. if you reward bums, you end up producing more bums. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- IMO, opinions better come with a name attached. anonymous opinion is irresponsible. we could end up with kadli jib, layli talleak. heck, even bharati bernardo sticks his name to his opinions! agnelo --__--__-- Message: 17 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:55:33 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The e-mail below was sent to me by a female correspondent of mine. She has two children in their twenties. She does not wish to be identified. -- quote Gosh! That someone actually dares to write crap like this - flush them out! Prostitution is the world's oldest profession and much as we may all want to be neighbours of the ladies, we must accept that in the absence of a social security system which puts food in their mouths (and their children/parents, whatever) a woman will sell her body - as I a sure a man would too. After all, what cost morality when you are dying of hunger? the dogma of fatalism or predestined karma argues that a woman has to prostitute herself out of economic necessity. wrong argument. please note the vast majority of poor women (and men) who work as ayahs, hawkers, farmers, servants etc. Better still is to take a much broader and humane approach - LEGALISE prostitution. Cover the prostitutes under unions, medical protection/insurance schemes. Educate them about the dangers of their profession and within that create as `safe' a working place as possible - free from the exploitation of pimps and other scum that thrive on those who have to sell their bodies. your solution is a positive encouragement of bums. if you reward bums, you end up producing more bums. it is just as 'humane' to shut down prostitution or to manage it with a reward and punishment policy. both the demand and supply ends need to be controlled. I think, in this case, Ms Periera is more worried about straying husband/sons/brothers and seems to have forgotten some very basic principles - not just of Christianity but of simple humanity. christian socialism like communism is innately stupid. The worry of straying husband/sons/brothers is reality, responses hard wired into the brain of a woman necessary for her own success. to despise this behavior is suicidal. moral principles are a fashion of the times, they change with time. we should seek answers in science, in biology, in human behavior. not the bible, nor fashionable dogma. --- unquote __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]RE: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- A wee little bit ... perhaps! You know us men, dear Cornel. But, then, those ladies, how they try to belittle poor us, acients...shame on them! By the way, Cornel, are the same Cornel late(?) of LSE and from Benaulim? If so, your poor cousin, Clemmy (Pacheco, used to speak fondly, and a good deal, about you. Cheers, Alfred From: Cornel DaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Methinks Tavares may be boasting, at least a little, re his prowess!! Cornel On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 13:20:09 +0100, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The much suffering, enduring, indignant ms Pereira could do far worse than getting accquainted with the story of Maria Magdalen, how it never occured to JC to flush her out ... Also, quite a few saints to whom I pray to help me repent my sins and be worthy of Divine Mercy. And, she has the further impudence of alleging that only their young husbands that can draw benefits from these ladies-of-charms. Young husbands, forsooth! they could learn a great deal from oldies. I am on treshold of the age-of-wisdom and should know and not a thought of Viagra! _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]RE: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Methinks Tavares may be boasting, at least a little, re his prowess!! Cornel - Original Message - From: Bosco - Goanet Volunteer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:55 AM Subject: [Goanet]RE: Let's have some humanity here Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 13:20:09 +0100, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The much suffering, enduring, indignant ms Pereira could do far worse than getting accquainted with the story of Maria Magdalen, how it never occured to JC to flush her out ... Also, quite a few saints to whom I pray to help me repent my sins and be worthy of Divine Mercy. And, she has the further impudence of alleging that only their young husbands that can draw benefits from these ladies-of-charms. Young husbands, forsooth! they could learn a great deal from oldies. I am on treshold of the age-of-wisdom and should know and not a thought of Viagra! Happy holidays to Goanetters headed HOME !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Let's have some humanity here
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 13:20:09 +0100, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The much suffering, enduring, indignant ms Pereira could do far worse than getting accquainted with the story of Maria Magdalen, how it never occured to JC to flush her out ... Also, quite a few saints to whom I pray to help me repent my sins and be worthy of Divine Mercy. And, she has the further impudence of alleging that only their young husbands that can draw benefits from these ladies-of-charms. Young husbands, forsooth! they could learn a great deal from oldies. I am on treshold of the age-of-wisdom and should know and not a thought of Viagra! Happy holidays to Goanetters headed HOME !! ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
