[Goanet] Hitler's restaurant in Bombay - serious
See http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_fe_st/hitler_eatery George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY
Dear Paulo, I am sure that Rene Barretto is a kind, wonderful man, in the sunset of what must have been a quietly creative life. These talents however do not seem to have extended to WGD. And, as in the case of his personal friends, logic and sentiment do not quite seem to agree too, as in your second sentence below. You have paid tribute to Rene's sterling qualities as promoter and co-ordinator of WGD, and we all stand humbled by his contribution there. My stand has been merely to try and salvage WGD's diminish- ing reputation as an increasing number of Goans & Goan organisations grow disenchanted by a lack of action by the erstwhile promoter and his perpetuation of a personality cult. I am more than certain that you and others know what I mean, so I will not further belabour the point. The kind of statement you made re. patenting of the WGD idea and challenging this, is unworthy not only of you Paulo, but of this forum. I am sure it was unintentional, being possibly based on a similar canard from the Carribean. A cursory familiarity with our legal systems will explain why. In the final analysis, an event like the WGD can only live on delinked from a darkly pervasive, but ultimately destructive personality cult. Best regards, Francis. >Dear all, >I read with some interest the arguments about who is the creator >/founder of the "World Goa Day" idea. I do not know if it is possible to >associate a name (founder/creator) to the idea. >Certainly anyone will recognise that Rene has been extremely active in >promoting the idea and I have heard before from George that Filomena Giese >came up with it. However, anyone claiming credit for the creation of the >idea can certainly be challenged unless the idea was registered/patented >somewhere, which I do not believe it was. >Does it really matter who came up with the idea? What matters is that we >keep celebrating Goa day where ever we may be in the world. This is the >only >way to keep our culture and our identity alive and I personally thank Rene >for being the great world-wide coordinator of these yearly celebrations. In >my opinion, they have been a success so far. >Best regards >Paulo Colaco Dias. > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Helga on Viva Goa
Much of what Helga says is true. If she has read my piece in the Viva Goa souvenie called Cultural Metamorphosis, she would have realized that Goan culture is evolving into something new. Viva Goa is a hotch-potch of Goan culture. If Helga is suprised that Goan kids know litttle of Goan culture, forget about the capital of Goa, she will be shocked to know that majority of Canadians know very little of their geography, leave alone history. In fact, I had a small chat with Oscar Furtado, GOA president, on the sidelines and told him that Viva Goa needs to expand by inviting Goan performers from Goa and elsewhere. I have made this suggestion before to him, but his point is that getting anyone from abroad means spending money. For him, Viva Goa is to make money for the running of the association. He doesn't think getting some big-name artistes from Goa could result in adding to GOA's coffers. I could understand his concern as GOA then was facing problems of meeting its expenses. I think the situation has changed now. Since I have temporarily ceased to be its member because of my residence abroad for the last two years, I have no idea about GOA's current financial status. Merwyn quoted figures on how much it costs GOA to host the event. Shocking indeed, but GOA perhaps have no choice. True, the heat was unbearable in The Hangar. There's no alternative because The Hangar has four grounds for five-a- side soccer, a big draw for the event. Take out the soccer part, and Viva Goa will fall flat. So, GOA is caught in a cleft stick. But it's the same with other cultural events, meaning it's all song and dance with little other things thrown in between. I attended Masla! Masti! Mehndi!, which is a big success. The event has moved from the Harbourfront to the CNE because of lack of space to hold the crowds at the old venue. It's was the same stuff I saw when it first began -- Indian traditional dances, including bhangra. Now the event has overseas artists and this time an English band Trickbaby performed. The singer was a Punjabi. I also attened South Asian Day at the CNE, held a week or so before the 3Ms. I didn't go for South Asian Fusion because it was raining. Coming back to Helga's take on Viva Goa, one can't blame the association. Goan kids are just not interested in things Goan, except food. They don't listen to Konkani music, and some just speak some words while many understand the language. Cultural crisis, indeed. I have said here before, even starting Konkani classes was a failure. The tiatrs are patronized by the middle-aged and the elderly. When I saw tiny tots doing Goan folklore dances, it seemed a pity. Then, there was the usual hip-hop, a current rage among youths. Can you teach culture to these kids? It's a losing proposition. As for calling people like us Gonadians, I wouldn't be surprised that the word could get corrupted and Goans in Goa would call us Gondos, such as bondo (dummies). Thanks Helga for your new invention. Maybe you can think of a similar term for Goans in England and in many other places across the globe. Eugene Correia ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 251
Great article - "Enjoying Goan delicacies" by Ervell E Menezes Armande ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] GOA DIALOGUES "TERRORISM AND CIVILISATION
Dear Friend, Invitation to GOA DIALOGUES "TERRORISM AND CIVILISATION: THREATS TO PEACE AND STABILITY IN GOA" organised by THE INTERNATIONAL CENTRE, GOA ON 29TH AUGUST 2006 The International Centre, Goa is holding a seminar on "Terrorism and Civilization: Threats to Peace and Stability in Goa" on 29 August 2006 at the ICG premises in Dona Paula, Goa. Hon. Chief Minister of Goa Shri Pratapsingh Rane will deliver the keynote address to the seminar. The seminar is the first in the series of seminars to be organised under the GOA DIALOGUES by The International Centre, Goa. The primary objective of the meeting will be to examine the many faces of violence in India and in the state of Goa. Recent events in the state and elsewhere in India have added urgency for the people and the security community of the need to understand how these developments can affect the economy and social harmony of Goa. The meeting will also examine the situation, especially acts of terror, in other countries and regions. Goa, like any other state in India, is not immune to such acts of communal or political terror and this seminar is also to promote public awareness and the dangers of ignoring such dangers. The meeting will bring together a group of experts from India and Asia to deliberate on the broad issues of communalism and terrorism. Enclosed please find the detailed programme and reply form for your information. Members of the public are welcome to attend. Registration is open on first come first serve basis. As you are aware, The International Centre, Goa is a not-for-profit society established in 1987 "to promote understanding and amity between parts of the country and with different communities of the world" through multiple activities such as conferences, seminars, study courses, training programmes, lectures; research; interaction with national and international bodies; dissemination of information; fellowships and scholarships, amongst others. Hope you will make it convenient to attend the seminar and present views on such a vital issue. Thanking you. Yours sincerely, M Rajaretnam Director/Chief Executive TERRORISM AND CIVILIZATION Threats to Peace and Stability in Goa Organized by The International Centre, Goa Dona Paula, Goa, INDIA 29th August 2006 Tentative Programme 9.00 amREGISTRATION OF PARTICIPANTS 9.30 amINAUGURAL SESSION Introduction: M. Rajaretnam, Director/Chief Executive, The International Centre, Goa Welcome Address: Hon. Pratapsingh Rane, Chief Minister, Goa Keynote Address: Shri. V K Duggal, Union Home Secretary of India (invited) 1030 amTea Break 1100 amPanel 1: TERRORISM AND GLOBAL SECURITY Chairperson: Yatin Kakodkar, Trustee, The International Centre, Goa 1. Religious Symbolism vs. Secular Motifs: Study of Modern Day Terrorism Joydeep Nayak, DIG of Police, Tripura, India 2. South Asia and its Propensity for Terrorism Subhash Kapila, Consultant, International Relations and Strategic Affairs, South Asia Analysis Group, New Delhi, India 3. Terrorism in Afghanistan Hekmat Karzai, Director, Centre for Conflict and Peace Study, Kabul, Afghanistan 4. The Naxalite Insurgency in India Anil Kamboj, Senior Fellow, Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, New Delhi, India DISCUSSION 1.30 - 2.30 pm Lunch 2.30 pm Panel 2: TERRORISM AND IMPACT OF SOCIETY Chairperson: V Shivkumar, Dean, Faculty of Social Sciences, Goa University, India 1. The Tourism Industry of Goa: Current Status and Future Potential Dayanand M S, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Management Studies, Goa University, Goa, India 2. The Bali Bombings and their Impact on Indonesia and Southeast Asia Arabinda Acharya, Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 3. India's Anti-Terror Laws and Enforcement Ganesh Sovani, Advocate Mumbai High Court, India DISCUSSION 4.30 pm Panel 3: VIOLENCE AND THE PUBLIC RESPONSE Chairperson: Dr. V A Pai Panandiker, Trustee, The International Centre, Goa & Founder Director, Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi. 1. J P Singh, Chief Secretary, Government of Goa 2. Nitin Kunkolienker, President, Goa Chamber of Commerce & Industries (Invited) 3. Sandesh Prabhudessai, Editor, Sunaprant 5.30 pm CLOSING REMARKS ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] another old goan restaurant in Dhobi Talao
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that we've gone beyond Dhobitalao, there is City > Kitchen founded by the famous hockey player of > yesteryear, Sacru Menezes, as well as my favorite, > Goa Portuguesa in Mahim. > Let's not forget the excellent Gomantak restaurants > like Sayba and Surmai in Bandra. Nasci adds: Yes, I know Sacru Menezes, the great international Hockey Goalkeeper! He and his City Kitchen did the catering and the Wedding Cake in 'Ship Shape' for my wedding. He and Leo D'Sa were great friends of my bro in law, Patrick D'Souza, another Hockey player for the Lusitanians of Bombay. I have also been to one of the Gomantak restaurants in Bandra; they are very popular and quite cheap too; they specialise in Fish only. Cheers. Nasci Caldeira. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Dating: It's free to check out our great singles! http://au.personals.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Effects of Public Executions on Homicide Rates
Hello Dr. D'Cruz, I must admit that this and the previous post was the first that I have read from you. I do not know your stance on other issues, but I find you views below as absolutely primitive, to be mild. Firstly, biblical style or not, the mode makes no difference when one is sentenced to death. Moreover, the death penalty does exist in India and that was not a deterrent enough for the killers of Mandar (nor were their Gods). Your argument that crime rate is higher in US than in India simply because of the manner of execution is baseless. Re the death penalty, to argue with you as a Christian, don't you think you are violating the 10 commandments? Don't you think you are acting as God when you decide who should die and who should live? What happened to forgiveness? We cannot use contraception because sperm cells will die, but we can kill criminals as we please because they violated the code, right? There is no doubt that the death penalty is an effective deterrent. But so is Autocracy an effective & efficient form of governance. But both these violate some basic sense of human morality (theistic or atheistic). I am not saying that you and Floriano (who prefers Autocratic style governance & policing) do not have morals, just that you are speaking through your emotions, without thinking clearly. We do not have the moral right to kill criminals, and we do not have the right to deprive the general publics freedoms within the law. Unfortunately, this is my only argument. I cannot explain why it is against basic morality, it just is, according to me. >From an effectiveness point of view, although it will be long before we reach that of Death penalty, we can try harder in other ways to curb crime. Firstly, Law can be a very powerful deterrent, more than one's God. The problem lies the enforcer's of the law, and with the people who think they can get away from them, even if they are actually wrong. In India, a majority have little faith in the police & Law. And for good reason. But I feel it is a misconception. I do not have the time to find statistics, but my guesstimate is that a lot more crimes are solved, and criminals punished than not. It is only because the media focuses on cases like Jessica Lal and the likes, which gives the impression that the Police and Judicial system are unreliable. One of the principles of Criminology is that there's no such thing as the perfect crime. If the Police are empowered with state of the art Criminology education and forensic tools for one, most cases would be solved. This would increase the faith in policing, and thus increase the deterrence. Then there's the issue with corruption, within the police force and the Judicial system. If we can put in place systems to increase transparency and curb corruption (like e-governance, etc), the prospective criminals with connections would think twice. This is easier said than done, but it makes more sense than your biblical measures! Secondly, we have to study the causes of crime in order to prevent it. Read the following document which is a good primer to this subject: www.preventingcrime.net/library/Causes_of_Crime.pdf >From the Scientific perspective, many crimes of Violence and Lust are committed by dysfunctional deviants, who need Psychological help. People around potential criminals need to recognise their dysfunctions and strongly encourage them to seek help, before they do cross the line. Thirdly, it would probably be a good idea to introduce the subject Ethics (which includes morality) in high school itself, not as a text book subject with a final examination, but as a class which you can pass through attendance, participation, individual seminars and continuous evaluation. All these measures put together may almost be as effective as the Death Penalty, perhaps even more, if lucky. Crimes should not go unpunished, and should be as stern as it can get within the bounds of human morality. Life imprisonment with no possibility of parole (literally no possibility) is almost as scary as getting sent off to the next life. As Selma said in an earlier post, (and I paraphrase) the purpose of prison is for the individual to reflect upon one's crime, and to keep him from further harming society, etc. And finally, I would just like to say that Mandar's killers were extremely stupid but were mal-intentioned and deserve the full force of ethical law, if the events did happen as they confessed. Firstly, they planned it all in 3 days and expected to get away with it. I am still trying to digest the fact that some were against the fact of asking too much money, (ie not be so greedy) but all reached a consensus to kill him. This is unless the killing was just an accident or unintentional when they had panicked when Mandar started to scream. Regards, Aristo. Forgive me if I sound a little incoherent as I have stayed an hour after my shift to type this mail, and I have no time to proof read as I have to leave within the mi
[Goanet] Goan roots and Gonadians
> Jose Colaco wrote: > I'd like to say "baloney" to the above from George Pinto but I will not. > Gonadians is NOT good > coinage. Oh my gosh, I just realized "baloney" has roots in "Bahama Goans" ;-)) George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Stranger than Fiction...
Stranger than Fiction... By Valmiki Faleiro This may read like Ripley's "Believe it or not," but is entirely true. Maria Assumpção Hortencia Olinda Faleiro was the youngest of my father's siblings. Following the experience of her eldest sister, married to a 'Sá' from Divar, she and another sister remained spinsters. Instead of a child, Sá gave his wife VD. Tia Olinda was brilliant at school, but the family had lost its breadwinner, her father, when she was barely a year old. Even then, reading had made her very knowledgeable. She was equally intuitive, and intense in her love for children, animals and plants. Her pets included a goat and two cats, who shared her bed. We kids detested her nocturnal company, but not her dreams: she had an extrasensory gift of 'seeing' occurrences, while asleep. I will relate three incidents. The year: around 1925. Both her brothers, Antonio Vicente, the elder, and my father, were products of St. Mary's school in Bombay. While my father went to St. Xavier's and thence to Grant Medical College, before joining the (then) 'Indian Army Medical Corps,' T. Antu became a telegrapher. Tall, athletic and handsome, he was selected for the cavalry welcome to the visiting King, George-VI, at the especially built 'Gateway of India.' (Prized souvenir mugs with pictures of the King and Queen would be smashed to smithereens, together with trophies and other memorabilia, in his drunken stupors later in life.) T. Antu worked for the British government. He came home only on annual leave, always after informing home in advance. One dawn of that year, T. Olinda told the household that 'Mano Antu' was arriving that very morning. Nobody believed her. She said he'd be home by 8a.m., a railway coolie in a red top and white dhoti carrying his trunk, he following, an umbrella in hand ... she had seen that in a dream that night! Lo and behold, around eight, the scene was exactly as it had appeared in the dream... trunk, coolie, umbrella, all. It happened that a British boss transferred T. Antu and a Tamilian telegrapher out of turn, from Simla to a harsher, higher altitude station, favouring their British peers. The two conspired and beat the daylights out of the boss. T. Antu fled to Portuguese Goa, heaven knows where the Tamilian hid. The early '60s. It was my birthday. I must have turned four or five. Up early, I heard of T. Olinda's dream that her maternal family patriarch and uncle, "T. Mat-Xavier" had died. Matias Xavier Sá, of Piedade-Divar, had been a highly ranked officer in the Baroda-Bombay 'Great Indian Peninsular Railway,' now Central Railway. Most Goans in that railway owed their jobs to him. He ran a 'comesalidade' (hostelry) for Goan boys in that city. It was at his initiative that my father and uncle were educated in Bombay. Nobody dismissed T. Olinda's dreams by now. By 9.00 a.m. arrived the trusted servant from Divar, with the "participação" (intimation.) Without even opening it, she shot rapid-fire Qs: had not so-and-so shaved her dead uncle's stubble, so-and-so dressed the body, so-and-so placed it in the coffin, and carried the coffin to the parlour? The messenger almost fainted. Every detail was true -- he had been there, and she had not! (Like most in the family, "T. Mat-Xavier" died in his mid-90s, and exactly as 'seen' by his niece that night, in real time.) After the Simla episode, T. Antu's maternal aunt's brother-in-law, Santan Cota, North India's most renowned bandmaster, took him to Calcutta. Antu was, it seems, an ace violinist, pianist and dancer. Prof. Joaquim Silva, who tutored me in French, would relate how Margao damsels boasted for years if asked for a dance by Antu Falleiro (a privilege.) And how he saw the same man stagger on the streets, in his twilight years. Playing music at nightclubs and cinemas (from printed scores, which came with the film footage, in that age of 'silent cinema') and angst (Santan Cota allegedly underpaid him), T.Antu got into drinking. He quarreled with his benefactor and returned home, then played in Bangalore and Madras for some years. When almost an irredeemable alcoholic, he returned home to spend a few last messy years. But, as T. Olinda never tired of reminding me, a budding agnostic, no matter how drunk, he never sat at a meal without reciting grace, nor slept without his night prayers. Reflecting his tumultuous life, T.Antu slept in an easy chair at night and in bed by day. 22nd August 1953, precisely 53 years ago, almost to the day. Around 3.30 a.m., T. Olinda awoke in cold sweat: a dream showed Antu on bended knee, at the easy chair, hands folded in prayer, dead. She quickly woke the others, lit oil lamps (electricity hadn't yet arrived) and went over -- to find him exactly in the position she saw in the dream moments before... P.S.: He would have turned 58 the next day, was the youngest to die in family history, but like most before him, died in the same mon
Re: [Goanet] Goan victim of racism in the UK
Dear Eddie, Thanks for the clarification that you provided on Goanet, of the Racism case in UK. I have been a bit concerned about this student. Especially as the guy mentioned that the police did nothing. It is true that there are cases of verbal and physical abuse on the streets of UK, especially so in Birmingham. I have seen and heard recounts of these in the last few years of my stay here and a lot of them would involve alcohol. But I think this is the case in any place/country. There are ways to avoid confrontations like this and stay safe. The police here are quick on the scene and I have been amazed by this a couple of times. No University would like their international students to be at risk at any time. In Birmingham University, we have Student wardens (students themselves) visiting houses in Student areas to check that everything is all right. Student mentors do this job in University halls. There was a police conference sometime last year in Birmingham city centre involving some staff from Universities in West midlands and the West Midlands police. I volunteered to attend this as a student representative (the only one that time as it was during the UG exams). The police have been particularly concerned about the rise in crime concerning students. It is a well-known fact that students tend to have expensive and fancy items (mobile phones, lap tops, mp3 players etc) to pillage and are easy targets for muggers and burglars. Some of the conference highlights included hate crime, which could encompass anything from one's religion, gender, disability, or sexual orientation and ways that a victim or a witness could report these online. http://www.report-it.org.uk/ As a student mentor in University accommodation (and team leader subsequently), I had to explain to students how they could report any such occurrences anonymously (this would only result in crime statistics) or openly (this would result in further action). I would like to say that incidents like this do happen. It could be a hate crime related to any of the above-cited types. For eg. A physically handicapped white British girl was mocked at, in a neighbouring Bangladeshi Balti house by some of the waiters. They stared and even dared to ask her where she left the rest of her arms and legs. This made headlines in Redbrick (the University newspaper). But this was not reported as a hate crime, which it is. And consequently, there was no police action. Police do take action if one reports it. If they dont, it is up to the individual to report this inaction to the higher authorities. The system here is simple. There are police to police the police. So one can go higher up till justice prevails. I know that some international students shy away from reporting anything to the police. Id like to say to them that they should contribute to the help they expect to get. And with online reporting, one doesnt even have to go to the police station to do this. For Sunith and other wannabe UK students: Be safe. Use personal alarms (especially for girls) when travelling alone. These should be available free in the universities. They could also double as door or window alarms. There are other problems like drink spiking that one needs to be careful about as well. Do not leave your drink (tea, coffee, water or alcohol) unattended when out socializing with friends/acquaintances. You would be surprised how many of these spiking incidents have been reported in universities here. Try to live in an area of low crime record. There are Community Safety Assessments available online. http://www.birmingham-csp.org.uk/crimeanddisorder/strategicassessments http://www.birmingham-csp.org.uk/crimeanddisorder/docsfolder/citywidecsa/Birmingham%20Community%20Safety%20Assessment%20Final_San.pdf http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/209393.pdf Take care of yourself. Find out how to, in your area. The police web sites and the international office at your university would give out more information about this. Lastly, I would like to say. These are only precautionary measures. Student life is a good experience. Dont let this incident deter you or bog you down. Take care and warm regards, ^_^ Jen [Goanet] Goan victim of racism in the UK Eddie Fernandes eddie at fernandes.u-net.com Tue Aug 22 06:02:14 PDT 2006 I contacted South Shields Police soon after I read of the incident in the letter to the Herald. They police claim that they were at the scene within 5 minutes of it being reported to them. The victim was taken to the local police station where he received first aid. Evidently he had been attacked by two men. The victim was also shown photographs of possible suspects but he was unable to identify his attackers from them. The investigation is on-going. The police are studying close circuit images of the vicinity at the time and "are hopeful" of making arrests. They have undertaken to keep me briefed
[Goanet] Tribute to a great dad
On a second childhood and a moving tribute to a father - see submission below for the GOA SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-book. Please send your submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, George *** The Cycle of Life by Edwin Fernandes Growing up in the Bandra of yore was similar to the life Richmal Cromptons William Brown led, never a dull moment. Our house on the BJ Road was smack opposite the sea. There were no obnoxious auto rickshaws those days and traffic snarls were unheard of! The most common mode of transport was the humble bicycle. Those days working people would cycle to Bandra station and park their cycles in a paid cycle stand. So healthy and pollution free. We had a fairly large compound to cycle. I remember when in later years, the neighbouring cottage was pulled down and a large galaxy of a building came up in its place, a certain Salman Khan on his chopper bike also used to strut his stuff in our compound. As youngsters we envied our elders for their cycles. We could barely afford to hire cycles, although it cost just the grand sum of .25paise per hour! We never had pocket money, so we ran errands, did housework, homework etc just to earn that princely sum. You see in those days, there was no demonstration effect. Today parents buy toys and other goodies for their children mainly because other children have them. Obviously ones child cannot be left in the lurch to suffer from a complex. In our time if you wanted a cycle you jolly well had to earn it. Ironically the expression there are no free lunches bandied about so loosely today, was more apt in the days gone by! I learnt to cycle in the 5th standard, the hard way, falling off the hired cycle innumerable times, knees and elbows constantly being bloodied and bruised. Oh for the protective gear viz helmets, knee and elbow guards of today! It was my burning desire to own a cycle. Thats it. No other wants or needs. The age of WAP enabled CDMA mobiles; P4 PCs and other fancy gizmos were still in the realm of legerdemain. With great trepidation, I approached my parents and stammered my request. Mummy like all practical mothers straight away said I was too young to ride on the road. I argued my case like a seasoned advocate, pleading, reassuring and even promised I would never ask for anything for the rest of the long life that lay ahead of me, with all the conviction that I could muster! My Dad (who worked in the merchant navy) was an old hand in man management. He understood that unless you put a value on something, one never really appreciates it. He patiently waited for my eloquence to run dry and assured me that I would get a cycle, on condition that I stood among the first three in my class. You could knock me down with a feather. To someone who who was more comfortable wielding a hockey stick than a fountain pen, this was hitting below the belt. What further proof did one need that the world was just not fair to children? Shades of William Brown again! Life went on. Somehow I never let go of the dream. In the 8th standard in the year 1968, I finally achieved my goal. What a momentous occasion it was! I painstakingly composed a letter (not email), to my Dad who was in England at that time. Thereafter I spent the days and months eagerly waiting my Dads arrival. I wanted him to accompany me to buy that Hercules cycle. Finally came the news that Dads ship was to dock in Bombay. One unforgettable evening, an ambassador taxi screeched to a stop outside our house. On the carrier was a bulky looking bundle wrapped in canvas. Dad stepped out of the cab, resplendent in his smart navy uniform. He waved to me and like a true blue navy man, wasted no time dilly dallying, coming straight to the point, he hollered, Will you give me a hand with this cycle? You could knock me down with a feather, once again. My cycle, my very own cycle! The cycle exceeded my wildest dreams. I expected a Hercules or Atlas, the reigning icons of the day. What Dad bought me was a genuine Raleigh cycle from Nottingham. The military green cycle had a dynamo, a headlamp, a revolving bell and would you believe it, 3 gears! Now those were gadgets none of my pals had. I was over the moon. My Mum tells me that day I had only sandwiches for dinner, while cycling of course! That cycle served me well. I cycled to school; picnics to Aarey Milk colony, National Park, Tulsi Lake. I cycled to my Centre for my final SSC exams. I cycled all four years to a Bandra College. I won slow cycle races; dodge cycle races galore on it. I was only barred from fast racing, as the cycle had gears. Oh, my Raleigh served me well. It was almost an extension of me. Then I joined a Bank, settled down and eventually shifted base to Juhu. The cycle remained in Bandra. Occasionally when I visited Mummy on the weekends, I would take it for a small spin. Otherwise it languished under the st
[Goanet] Charming pants
Gabe Menezes wrote: Comment: How revealing! 'Could charm the pants off any girl in the vicinity' !!! Cecil Pinto responds: What Roland Francis meant about Eric Pinto was that he could "charm the panties off any girl...". "Charm the pants of..." does not have the same sexual connotation. -- GB: I always, considered myself better than most, yet I never, ever achieved that distinction...perhaps our Nairobi Goan girls, treasured their pants?? CP: If you are trying to insinuate that Nairobi Goan girls of your time were in anyway morally superior to Bombay Goan girls or Goa Goan girls of the time then I am sorry to inform you that you are far off the mark. Maybe your technique was flawed. My Great Global Goan Sex Survey is still in its preliminary stages but initial findings suggest that pre-marital sex is, and was, a much more common practice among Goans settled abroad than among those in Goa and India. This could be more due to a lack of opportunity and social sanction rather than any professed morality. Cheers! Cecil = ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goan-ness, What's Your Goal? - An Alternate View
As someone old enough to be proud of my Goaness, and yet young enough not to remember a time when men walked down Fountainhas and serenaded beautiful women, I feel an odd compulsion to view this debate from both ends of the spectrum. I think, in all honestly, we cannot have this debate without discussing what is Goan culture. The culture that we celebrate in diaspora is like a badly drawn caricature at some county fair. The culture that we hold dear to us, doesn't even exist in Goa, in the form that we hold it dear. Today's Goan is as comfortable singing the lilting melodies of A.R. Rehman as they are singing mandos. And they are as conversant discussing MF Hussain's art as they are discussing Dostoevsky's writings. Goa has never stopped evolving, we in Diaspora have stopped evolving what we know of Goa. We are like a severed thumb earning to be reunited with the body, and hoping that the body has not aged or matured in the meantime. The best that we can hope for is that generations that spring forth from us, take an interest in the history of their ancestors. That they feel a certain empathy with Goa's struggles, and they inculcate a sense of commitment to its future. For it is in their interest to seek out their past as a path to their own self-discovery. However, that choice must rest with them. Selma --- --- Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mine is the other view to Mario Goveia's stand that > overseas Goans should > and shall lose their Goan heritage. He set out this > point in his counter > question to Helga's expectations for keeping > heritage alive at functions > like Viva Goa. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] DVD/VCD No. 92/93 "AMCHEM NOXIB" (& NIRMONN)
Today, I went to Mapusa all the way from Agassaim to buy this DVD "Ámchem Noxib" as the same only availalbe in Mapusa (Shop. No.1) Mapusa Residency (tourist Hostel) and in Margao at Rytham House, near Minaxi hotel or City Hospital. This is DVD and can also be played on your PC using RealOne player, Window Media Player and others. DVD No: 92 AMCHEM NOXIB - The Original Movie of 1963 by Frank Fernand Brought to you by FC Global Music. With C Alvares, Ohpelia, Anthony Mendes, Antonette, M. Boyer, Kid Boxer, Souza Ferrao, Remie Colaco, Cyriaco Dias, Star of Arrosim, Titta Pretto, Rico Rod, Seby Cuoutinho, Alfred Rose, Philomena Braz, Lucian Dias, Leena Vaz, MAster Vaz, etc Price: Rs.300 Konkani film B&W August /2006 (1963) VCD No. 93 AMCHEM NOXIB Songs, Dialogues & original sound track. With also English song Í LOST MY HEART TO YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, PLEASE TELL ME DARLING YOU LOVE ME TOO, I AM LONGING FOR YOU. YOU ARE MY FIRST AND LAST LOVE, .. Rs.250August 2006 (1963) Check here for DVD Cover (front and back) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/223555471/ For larger pic http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=223555471&size=l Nirmonn DVD/VCD releasing within 2 weeks and Film Boglantt and Buerantlo Munis releasing early January next year. Sukachem sopon and Mhoji Ghorkan also releasing then after. JoeSays: Price tag appears to be bit higher compared to other VCDs/DVDs. However, it was said in the begining of the VCD/DVD (on screen) that the sales proceeds will go for retired artists of Goa and Magalore. === As from Monday, the same VCDs/DVDs (inlcuidng Nirmonn) would also available at Panaji at JoeGoaUk's hot patry shop 'Goan Delicacies' http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/213413960/ other Konkani VCDs also available but No Audio CDs === UK Goans, look out for one final offer from JoeGoaUK which inlcudes home delivery. Buy any 5 for 15 pounds. (choose from over 95 VCDs see link below.. Finally, check these out 'Go Goa Green'' and JoeGoaUk's Art ParK http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/223086731/ -- for Goa & NRI related info... ttp://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Gonadians - one response
How abt 'Amigos' for American Goans...:) Edward Verdes > Helga, can you come up with something similar for Goans in America, Australia, Portugal, England > too. > > Regards, > George > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Gilbert's benign neglect/ repsonse to Aristo
Gilbert is definitely on to something and has really provided his own explanation to his question below. "Relative morality" has to do with one's relatives as opposed to "non-relative morality" which relates to non-relatives, both bigoted and non-bigoted. Regards, George > Gilbert Lawrence wrote... > Hi Aristo, > I am not an authority on religion or morality. Yet, you stimulated me to > think about > "relative morality" of various activities that I had outlined in my post. > At another time, we can have a fruitful uninterrupted dialogue and advance the > understanding of "relative morality". > Have you noticed how individuals in your camp freely call others "bigoted", > sadly even their own relatives? Can you please explain why? Really! Please! ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Jr. Trio Kings to Rock in Kuwait
Jr. Trio Kings to Rock HAIL! The great charismatic entertainers! Aliston-Roystan-Frankie. Konkani lovers have rightly conferred upon them the title of Junior Kings The Junior Trio Kings have take the Konkani stage by storm in Goa and Mumbai with their breathtaking performances. Now they are eagerly awaiting to set on fire the hearts of Konkani lovers in Kuwait by their sensational performances. Wherever they have performed, they have received thundering ovation and have been repeatedly called on the stage. See the talented Junior Trio Kings at their singing zenith in Larentes Pereiras blockbuster tiatro Hea Gharachim Dharam Bondh to be staged on Friday, September 1, 2006 at 3:30 pm at the Hawally A/c auditorium. Other professional stage artistes all set to come from Goa are the King of Centuries Roseferns, Prince of Centuries Pascoal Rodrigues, comedian Agostinho Temudo, best character actor Anil Pednekar top heroine Olga Vaz, evergreen Felcy and for the first time in Kuwait the upcoming director Anthony Sylvester. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Of Pants!
1: Gabe Menezes wrote: Comment: How revealing! 'Could charm the pants off any girl in the vicinity' !!! --- 2: Cecil Pinto responded: What Roland Francis meant about Eric Pinto was that he could "charm the panties off any girl...". "Charm the pants of..." does not have the same sexual connotation. --- 3: without reference to Sex or Sexual Connotation. If I may ask the residents of the UK, Isn't it true that in the UK, the word "pants" = 'panties' ! jc please visit "NEW" on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net Recommended Goa related sites 1. http://www.goa-world.com 2. http://www.SuperGoa.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Was Hitler Pro-Catholic? / response to Peter
Hi Peter, If I fall off my chair (laughing), and I break a bone, I will certainly blame you (for the following post). You mean to say the professional researchers and College Professors on Hitler overlooked these speeches of the Nazi leader? Thanks for enlightening us with your short and pointed post. Those who cannot produce quotes of Hitler to contradict what you have posted, will try the usual subterfuge of questioning your sources. They of course will not challenge your verbatim quotes. They should post the right quotes, if they disagree with your post. Anything less is just intellectual baloney. I think, some may even expect you to have been there when Hitler made those speeches. You make my point that some researchers (especially those who claim to be one) and writers have an agenda. And they selectively quote publications including from the web, or look at very selected data, based on their agenda. And as your post shows again, that some love to distort the facts to try to make their case. Kind Regards, GL --- Peter D'Souza I found the comments below at: http://www.answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler: ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Was Hitler Pro-Catholic?
Hi Gilbert I note your sentence below in which you refer to "Cornel's... well-known anti-Catholic bias!" I am puzzled by this, especially, after I had indicated to you that I was culturally very much a Catholic. I was after all, brought up in the faith and my desire and fascination to read about, and respectfully visit, ancient cathedrals/monuments in Europe and elsewhere has never left me, nor has my interest in Catholic history of which some is pretty unsavoury (particularly about some early Popes) as you perhaps know. I also indicated that I attend Catholic funerals sorrowfully, and baptismals and weddings, very pleasurably when invited. Further, I have taken relatives, family and friends, a couple of times by car, to shrines like Fatima and Lourdes and I contribute financially to Cafod, the Catholic charity, and receive and read their literature about their excellent projects in Africa. Also, I can never resist verbal discourse with Jesuit priests, in particular, about a wide range of thoughts and ideas. This would hardly count as being anti-Catholic by any stretch of the imagination, but then, Gilbert, if you choose to be the Catholic judge, jury and executioner of strange posts you must have a peculiar set of rules of your own making! Unfortunately, you have never provided me your enumeration of my supposed "anti-Catholic" proclivities. One significant point that, I know has definitely been unpleasing to you, has been my consistent criticism of the Catholic Church's complicity with the evil of caste in Goa. If this particular aspect of my world-view makes me anti-Catholic by your undeclared criteria, I am most happy to be one! Cornel DaCosta. - Original Message - From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Was Hitler Pro-Catholic? > Hi Fred, > I read your comments to my post, your reference and other material on the > subject of Hitler and the III Reich, and their relation to the Pope. Here > are my thoughts... > I am afraid what you and Cornel may be doing is adopting the principle of > "Guilt by Association". If we were Vietnamese, we would accuse the > Vatican of colluding in the Vietnam war. And if we were Arab, we would > accuse the Vatican of the same in the current American-British war in the > Mid-East. Is Cornel analyzing history or is his post a reflection of his > well-known anti-Catholic bias? > Regards, GL ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Requiem for a Lost Generation
Dear Diana, Thank you for so eloquently stating our collective fears. Do you have any ideas as to how we can turn the tide? As you may know from my posts on GoaNet, I no longer have faith in the knowledge that divine intervention will help us overcome these problems. However, I am fully convinced that nurturing 'emotional intelligence' at an early age will give the next generation the confidence to overcome peer pressure and material consumerism. If this can be imparted by religious ideals, I would be all for it. Is there any point in introducing specific courses into the elementary school curriculum to nurture emotional development? The program would have to be initiated by proper training of teachers to impart this properly to youngsters. Thanks once again for your words, Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. - Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:39:44 +0530 From: flower2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Requiem for a Lost Generation REQUIEM FOR A LOST GENERATION There is a pall of gloom hanging over Goa. One of our sons has lost his life and four others have thrown away their futures. These are not merely the sons of their families. They are your sons and mine. The torchbearers of a new generation. The hope of the future. The sorrow of their families is the collective sorrow of an entire community. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Hitler's restaurant in Bombay - serious
> >Engineering student Anand Dhillon sat with friends, >sipping soft drinks. "I think the name is quite >interesting. Tomorrow if someone keeps a name like >Saddam Mutton Shop or George Bush Footwear, there's >nothing wrong with that, is there?" he shrugged. > People in Goa have already started naming their dogs after george bush. One guy told me that his george bush barks a lot at imaginary threats, but not at real ones, and is completely incompetent, in general. He does not scare anyone anymore. Saddam, the neighbor's cat now practically lives in his house and eats his food. Other dogs in the neighborhood like kim and amjad cause him to whimper. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] My bio data
--- Albert Desouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Albert writes > To those who want to know who I am , My name is > Albert Leo CR D'Souza. I am from Saligao and used > to stay near Lourdes Convent but because of my > children's education I came to Mapuca and bought a > flat near the Mapuca Court. Till 2004 I was a high > school teacher teaching science in St.Francis > Xavier's High school Siolim and have taught for > last 30 years. I am active in LIC work insuring > people so that their families can be saved. > Mario observes: > Albert, thanks for finally using a descriptive subject line, which induced me to open, read and respond to your message. > Please, no more "Albert writes" in the subject line as my PC has been programmed to send those directly to the Thrash Bin:-)) > Albert writes: > > I am not a journalist and cannot write like > Fredrick Noronha.Anything more ? > Mario responds: > No, nothing more right now. You have already told us more about yourself than anyone else on Goanet does, including your admiration for the journalism of your fellow-Saligaokar Fred Noronha, whom everyone on Goanet wants to write like when they grow up:-)) > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Exposure of misinformation propagated on Goanet
I expose below some misinformation that has recently been spread in this forum. ITEM 1 The website www.answers.org has been promoted as an independent informational website. Strenuous objection has been raised to the easily verifiable fact that it is a fundamentalist religious website. Evidence that it is a fundamentalist religious website is provided by the website owners themselves in the introduction to this website. Please see the links and quotes below: http://www.answers.org/aia_intro.html "Answers In Action is a dynamic non-profit, evangelical, Christian organization based in Costa Mesa, California, which trains individuals to think logically and reasonably about all things." http://www.answers.org/aia_sof.html "Answers In Action Statement of Faith Because of our desire to uphold and teach the truth of the Holy Scriptures, Answers in Action sets forth the following statement of faith. All members of the Board of Directors and any staff shall subscribe annually to the statement without reservation of any kind. We believe that: 1. The Scriptures The Scriptures, the 39 books of the Old Testament and the 27 books of the New Testament, in their autographs are the inerrant and infallible Word of God, source and rule of all our faith and practice." ITEM 2 Misinformation and misconceptions have also been propagated in this forum about the spread and prevention of HIV/AIDS. For reliable information about this issue please see the following link from a legitimate and responsible public health organization, namely UNAIDS: http://www.unaids.org/en/HIV_data/2006GlobalReport/default.asp Please read about comprehensive HIV prevention at: http://data.unaids.org/pub/GlobalReport/2006/2006_GR_CH06_en.pdf Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The real risk to Goans and others in Britain
Velho, Re. your concerns about your safety as a student in London, let me assure you that you are far more at risk in Britain from the folks described in the following link than from anyone else. Though these guys may look like you, they will kill in a heartbeat not only you and their own people but anyone else who happens to be in the vicinity in their rush to get to those 72 virgins: > http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3-1231663,00.html > An excerpt: > "Eleven suspects in the alleged UK airport terror plot have been charged - as police revealed they had found bomb-making equipment and martyrdom videos. They said eight people had been charged with conspiracy to murder and preparing acts of terrorism. Three other suspects are charged with other offences under the Terrorism Act. One of these is a 17-year-old." ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Harangues and counter-harangues on Goanet
--- Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Cecil,
>
> There was no need to berate Helga publicly. Helga
> has no claims to being the literati of Goa. She had
> merely written a witty post on the subject of
> inculcating our culture in second-generation expats.
>
Mario observes:
>
I see a new "third-party" sensitivity displaying
itself on Goanet?
>
For the second time this week I see one Goanetter
[first Roland and now Selma] haranging or berating a
second Goanetter [first Mario and now Cecil] for
haranging or berating a third Goanetter {first Albert
and now Helga] for something they had posted.
>
In the meantime, there have been no signs that the
alleged targets of the alleged original harangues
[Albert and then Helga] had taken any umbrage,
obviously because they are class acts and took their
harangues in the positive and affectionate spirit of
camaraderie in which the original harangues were
issued by Mario and Cecil.
>
Cecil and I don't harangue anyone who is not worthy of
a good friendly harangue, and very occasionally
someone who deserves an unfriendly harangue:-))
>
We are more often used to seeing those who felt
haranged or berated spiritedly answer or defend
themselves and counter-harangue or counter-berate the
person who had haranged or berated them. Now we are
seeing what can only be described as "umbrage by
proxy":-))
>
This is an open worldwide free-for-all - well, almost
- forum. In my never humble opinion, people in such a
forum can opine all they like and harangue all they
like, even spread propaganda like mad and attack
religion and even passionately advance the absurd
notion an epitome of evil was a Christian in good
standing. It is up to others to counter-opine and
counter-harangue and point out the absurdities, all in
the spirit of free speech that some have given their
lives to defend and others take for granted.
>
BTW, the "umbrage by proxy" is also fair play
[everything is fair play on Goanet unless the FOUR BIG
KAHUNAS declare it "off-topic" or "over-the-top"], and
no one should interpret this as yet another harangue,
rather just a passing observation:-))
>
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Re: [Goanet] Goan victim of racism in the UK
Hi Gilbert You can't have read Goanet too carefully to send me your post as below. In addition to a longish post to Elisabeth (Selma) I also sent posts about my sadness re the case of E.Pinto's friend, also to Sunith, and to the Goan Voice (UK). Have you somehow missed all these but with the GV(UK) excepted? I did all this at a busy time, whilst also trying with considerable difficulty, to make sense of your 'mutterings' about Catholicism/religion! Further, the goings on at this end of the world (11 arrests for allegations of airline bombing etc) are not really Goanet material and the only other regular UK contributor, Gabe Menezes, is apparently on a long vacation. Re quality of written English on Goanet, I definitely had you in mind for sheer excellence. Hopefully, you won't tell me I was wrong on this count please! I am afraid your contacts are wrong on assimilation in the UK. The earlier official 1960s policy of Assimilation was withdrawn in favour of an Integrationist policy in the 1970s mainly at the behest of ethnic minorities who rejected the flattening process of assimilation. The Integrationist policy acknowledged cultural differences and indeed celebrated this. Consequently, two descriptive terms, in particular, become widely used: multiculturalism, and a community of communities (following an official report). However, multiculturalism as a working mechanism for the Integrationist policy is now under review because some deem it to be separating people rather than integrating them into core British values. An answer has yet to be found, including what is meant by core British values, differences between being British, English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish, British Asian etc. However, the school curriculum is already focusing on aspects of a common citizenship reflecting rights and responsibilities. Its hidden agenda is to prevent alienation among some ethnic minority youth. Personally, I do not think citizenship education will help very much, but then, that is another story. Notwithstanding the official policy of Integration, which is definitely not assimilationist, an unofficial long term process is taking place through intermarriage/partnership of a high order. I had provided figures in previous Goanet posts to you. The offspring of the mixed partnerships will generate a form of assimilation but this is a very long term expectation. Sorry I went on a bit. As you had expressed a dislike of long posts, I will stop abruptly for now! However, I definitely did not, as you say, "take pride that there was no pressure to assimilate." I was merely stating a fact. Unlike many other countries one can live and be oneself in any way one chooses in the UK as long as this does not impinge on others. However, there is a price for everything, including this fairly liberal philosophy. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goan victim of racism in the UK > Hi Gabe, > > I was wondering, after the recent attempt at airline bombings in London, > when a post like yours would appear on Goanet.. > > So I was surprised that the otherwise vocal Goans from UK who are strong > defenders of anti-racism were pretty silent. Now is the time to make one's > voice heard and presence felt. In fact at one point Cornel took pride to > state that there is no pressure to assimilate in the UK, like there is in > the USA. I did not concur with him on his latter point we have noticed a distinct "drop in decibel" from Goanetters in UK over the > last few weeks. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Why Condoms Will Never Stop AIDS in Africa
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But we're talking about stopping a pandemic here, > not just coping with those that already have the > disease, > which is what the purveyors of the "safe sex" myth > seem to focus on at the exclusion of everything > else. > > > AND STOPPING THE PANDEMIC INVOLVES STOPPING THOSE > WHO DON'T HAVE THE VIRUS FROM GETTING IT IN THE > FIRST PLACE. > > > Santosh says, "Advice to abstain from sexual > activity > outside of marriage would be great if followed, but > is quite obviously impractical because of low > compliance." > > > QUITE OBVIOUSLY IMPRACTICAL??? SAYS WHO??? > > > Most of us on this forum follow this advice. Most > of us do not put ourselves in harm's way. So, why is > it PRACTICAL for most of us and IMPRACTICAL for the > poor sods in Africa, India and China that are being > fed the safe sex nonsense? > > > WHY THE HELL CAN'T WE PREACH WHAT WE OURSELVES > PRACTICE??? Mario, The above reminded me of a saying in Kiswahili which translates to: "Don't drink and derive." Mervyn3.0 PS. I am still looking forward to you reciprocating Albert's request for some bio data. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goan-ness, What's Your Goal?
Dear Mario, Its been very interesting to read your views on this thread. I was a bit surpised there were so many Goan-North Americans with contrary views. In your opinion, are 2nd generation Goan-North Americans less/more aware of their culture and language as compared to say 2nd or 3rd generation Italian-Americans or Irish Americans or Polish-Americans(in the USA). I wonder if this differs for the same communities in Canada. The way you described your children and their connection to Goa is exactly the way other "assimilated" immigrant communities have evolved the world over. Some netters have termed it as "trying to look and act caucasian" which seems a bit unfair. I have spoken to only a few Indian-Americans my age about this. Their views more or less matched yours (regarding their Indian-ness). Regards Sunith Velho ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa gets nod for first special economic zone (SEZ) at Keri in Ponda taluka
Goa gets nod for first SEZ Our Correspondent / Mumbai/ Panaji August 25, 2006 In a significant development, the Union commerce ministry has given green signal to Goa's first special economic zone (SEZ) at Keri in Ponda taluka. To develop pharma park/ SEZ, the Goa Industrial Development Corporation (GIDC) had allotted around 12.32 lakh sq mt to Meditab Specialities a couple of months ago. The proposal was later sent to the Union commerce ministry. The allotted land fetched GIDC Rs 9.85 crore as per the leased rent of Rs 80 per sq mt. The annual rent of Rs 4.92 lakh is payable from the date of issue of the allotment order. Any default in the payment will attract annual interest of 15 per cent, as per the allotment letter. Meanwhile, two other companies have also forwarded their proposals to the Union commerce ministry for SEZs at Verna and Sancoale industrial estates. Besides, Goa health minister Dayanand Narvekar said last month that an information technology SEZ was proposed at Socorro. According to the SEZ policy approved by the Cabinet on 5 June, the developer of SEZ, industrial units and other establishment will be exempted from all the levies including sales tax, purchase tax in respect of all transactions made between the units or establishments within the SEZs and in respect of supply of goods and services from domestic tariff areas, units and establishment. The industries under SEZ will get exemption from payment of the stamp duty and registration fee as well. The state government will have to make exclusive arrangements in SEZ for the maintenance of law and order. Cip UK To communicate globally in this 21st century, 'Roman Script' is the most popular and computer-friendly script, particularly for the language of our ancestors "Konkani" ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goan victim of racism in the UK
Dear Jen, Thanks for the very helpful advice regarding the racial situation in the UK. There is much that I could have written about the Goan boy bashing incident in South Shields on 10 Aug. After reading the letter in the Herald, I scoured the media and came across the following: We want to live in peace 12 Aug: South Tyneside Gazette. young Muslims faced racist verbal abuse and violence by yobs around South Shields town centre in the aftermath of this week's security threat The Gazette has learned that minor incidences of trouble are believed to have broken out in the town centre during Thursday and yesterday, after yobs began targeting anyone with a different colour skin. Although none of the incidents have been reported to police, members of the Muslim community have appealed for calm and understanding Inspector Simon Charlton, from South Shields police, said: "I am disappointed that the incidents haven't been reported to us, that is something I will have to look in to further. Full text at http://www.southtynesidetoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=&Art icleID=1692065 I therefore wrote to Inspector Simon Charlton but the case was not helped by misrepresentations of the facts. We must highlight racist incidents in the UK without being paranoiac. Some of the recent incidents reported in Goan Voice UK are: 1. UK: 'Terror' hype sparks racist backlash against Asians 26 Aug: Socialist Worker. Asian men and women across Britain are facing a racist backlash. Full text, 396 words, at http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=9545 2. Jason Lobo: £450k to probe £90 bill 12 Aug: The Sun (UK). A cop today attacked bosses for wasting £450,000 investigating him over an expense claim for just £90. PC Jason Lobo was suspended on full pay for three years while a probe was carried out into the petrol bill. A court cleared him of any wrongdoing last year but Lancashire police pressed ahead with their own investigation ... PC Lobo, 37, from Blackburn, is now suing the force for racial discrimination. Full text at http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006370347,00.html Jason Lobo is a former British international runner. He was the UK 800m champion and took part in the 1998 Commonwealth Games and 1999 World Championships. 3. Claude Moraes says he was 'treated like a terrorist while travelling' 24 Aug: The Independent (UK). Claude Moraes, a member of the European Parliament who claims he has repeatedly been treated as a suspected terrorist while travelling has warned the European Union against moving towards a system of "ethnic profiling" following the alleged plot to blow up transatlantic planes. He has told how he has twice been detained and subjected to a full body search at airports for "travelling while Asian" Writing in tomorrow's issue of the left-wing weekly Tribune, Mr Moraes says that the frequent "stops and searches" he faces are an inconvenience to him but "nothing compared" to the problems faced by ordinary people who have been "strip-searched" because of the "profiling" he says already takes place. Full text, 548 words at http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1221299.ece The Claude Moraes home page is at http://www.claudemoraes.net/ Eddie Fernandes ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Viva Goa - What's your Goal
Selma, Your idea is a great one. Unfortunately trying to find a meaningful internship with a goan commercial firm would be major stumbling block.Educationally equipped youth are leaving Goa in droves for great jobs and internships with Indian firms in the rest of the country for this precise reason. (Thank God no one refers to us as bhaile and there are no labour control agencies!). However, NGO's are doing interesting stuff in Goa in many fields(and they always need help). I have met a few non resident 2nd generation Goan and other Indian youth doing internships with these NGO's. Its a great and easy way to experience social and economic realities in Goa. However I must mention that many more European and American youngsters(not of Goan extraction) do this than Expat Goan youth. I have always wondered the reason for this. It is also a major concern in Goa, that the youth living here have poor knowledge of their local history, architecture, tradition, literature, etc. But I guess mothers/fathers the world over are and always have been complaining about that. Regards Sunith Velho Selma wrote: The young man or woman, would spend a year in Goa working with a Goan firm and living with a Goan family. This participating family would introduce the man to the local history, architecture, tradition, literature, music, socio-economic realities and everything else relevant to the Goa of yesteryear and today. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Happy Birthday GOANET!
Dear Goanet, There is a saying in Konkani: "Khal'leleacho denkor ievnk zai" which roughly translated means to belch when one's stomach is full - to be grateful. This message is to express my gratefulness to Goanet for providing me a platform to write from and spread the word on Goa and our mother tongue, Konkani, to Goans across the globe. My special thanks to the Goanet Admin Team for keeping Goanet going all these years. You guys are doing a tremendous job and service to the Goan society. Keep up the good work! I take this opportunity of wishing 'Goanet' Many Happy Returns of the Day and a very Happy 12th Birthday! As Goanet enters its adolescent stage, may it progress by leaps and bounds and make us all feel proud. Remember - 'together we stand, divided we fall.' I dedicate the following Konkani poem to Goanet: G - Goanet tum Goenkaranchem chovis horamchem potr khobranchem (Goanet you're Goans' round-the-clock newspaper) O - Oundum vaddon tum zalem danddgem bara vorsanchem (You grew up into a robust 12-year-old this year) A - Anvdetanv sogott ami tuka lambdig jivit sukhachem (We all wish you a long, prosperous life) N - Niskuchar aiz-kal tum sabar zonnanchem (You are the envy of many these days) E - Ekmeti tum Bardezkaranchem, Saxttikaranchem ani Tiswaddkaranchem (You're the union of people from Bardez, Salcete and Tiswaddi) T - Tankta titli Konknni Goanettar borovn haddunk khaltem magnnem amchem (Our humble request is for you to publish as much Konkani on Goanet as possible.) Goanet, we wish you all the best! Three cheers to Goanet, the Admin Team and the (in)visible Goanet Volunteers! Bessanv tumcher poddonv re Bessanv tumcher poddonv re Sorginchea Deva Bapachem Viva re Viva - Viva, Viva! Viva re Viva - Viva, Viva! Viva-a-a-a-a-a, Viva marumiea Goanettachi saud korumiea! VIVA! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] GOA'S EVOLVING HELL: Tour de Babel !
Hi, It is sad to hear that Konkani is dying. It look like going the same way as what happened to Marathi in Bombay. We Goans Should first continue speaking to our children in Konkani, not only Goans in Goa but=20 Goans wherever they live around the world. We Goans have to deal with this situation,=20 Please do not leave this to the Politicians=20 (Can you believe that since independence Goa had more that 12 or more CM, looks like they are more greed for Power than the welfare of Goa) Regards Alan Fernandes ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Still referring to Nachini
After all the lengthy discussions that took place on the cereal, which brought out the benefits of including this tiny seed in our diet, I came across the following recipe in Maria Teresa Menezes' book: "Merenda de Nachini (Ragi Merenda) 1 cup ragi flour, 3 cups water, a pinch of salt, 1/2 tsp fenugreek seeds (methi), ground, 1 1/2 cup palm jaggery, 2 cups milk extracted from 1 large ground coconut, Powdered seeds of 2 green cardamoms. Mix ragi flour with water and allow to soak for one hour. Place in a pan with salt and cook over low heat stirring constantly to prevent lumps forming. Add fenugreek seeds and continue cooking till mixture thickens. Add grated jaggery and coconut milk. Continue cooking over low heat for another 3 - 5 minutes. Stir in cardamom powder and serve warm." I am sure the above should be given to the school children. In case of adults or senior citizens, perhaps the coconut milk should be replaced by cow's milk for health reasons. I remember that my mother was given the ragi tisan, every morning, at canji time, when she was bed ridden. The good women who lovingly looked after her always made it with freshly soaked ragi and then ground. I also remember having had both, "ambil" and "bhakri" of ragi during war time when there was shortage of wheat and rice was rationed. We had, pickles or dried fish to go with "ambil", just as we do with canji. By the way, for those who may not know the word "merenda" or "merend" I would say that it is any sweet dish prepared to be eaten at tea time. I say sweet dish because I am not sure if other items suchs as "bojes", etc can be considered as "merend". Does any one remember the yelllow and red flowers that bloom in the afternoons, around 5 o'clok. They were known as "merendas". Do they still call them by that name? I know I will get a reply from our netters. Regards Livia ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] NAVELIM to hold Valentine's Nite in Kuwait
NAVELIM to hold Valentine's Nite in Kuwait Kuwait: Navelim Youth Centre will hold a Valentine's Nite dance on 15th February 2007 as part of its annual activity for the season 2006-07. The Nite scheduled to be held at a 5-star Hotel promises an evening of dance and cheer for people of all age group. "It's an opportunity for everyone to pledge love to their dear ones, rejuvinate spirits and enhance friendship." said NYC President Agnello A.S. Fernandes announcing the Nite at the conclusion of NYC's AGM held at Hotel Village Inn, Kuwait City. Kuwait's top most band will play alongside an outstation beat-group to be named later. It should be noted that the NYC NITE organized by Navelim last September was one of the best dance organized in Kuwait. Check: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/6553 The following managing committee headed by President Agnello Fernandes was unanimously elected for the year 2006-2007 at the AGM. President Agnello A. S. Fernandes Vice President - Norman Noronha Gen. Secretary - Gasper Crasto Asst. Gen. Secretary: Duarte Ferrao Treasurer - Peter Colaco Asst Treasurer- Sidney Rodrigues Membership Secretary - Anthony Carr Sports Secretary - Avelino Dias Asst Sports Secretary - Joseph Rodrigues Team Manager - Johny Luis Asst. Team Manager - Britto Pereira Team Coach - Manuel Dias Social Secretary - Simon Dias Public Relations Officer - Eusebio Fernandes Main objectives of Navelim Youth Centre in Kuwait are: · To promote sports and conduct social activities in Kuwait. · To maintain cordial relations and provide co-operation and assistance in the field of sports and education to Goans -- preferably to the villagers of Navelim. · To help less fortunate brethren back home. NYC has worked with enthusiasm to realize these objectives over the years. Links: NAVELIM CROWNED JP Memorial KIFF League Champions in Kuwait - News & Photos - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/10259 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Jr. Trio Kings to Rock in Kuwait
Check them performing on stage here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/81788079/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk/83985264/ -- for Goa & NRI related info... ttp://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Of Godha Gaddis, Wordsworth and Khell Tiatro ....
See submission below for the GOA SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-Book. Please send your submmission to [EMAIL PROTECTED] George *** REMINISCENCES OF MY GOAN YOUTH By Nascimento Caldeira Well, how should I start? I was born in village Cavelossim, Goa. Shastikar? Yes, very much so and I was delivered into the world, in the front bedroom of my home, assisted only by a midwife, in those days when Doutor came on horseback! I was the last drop to come to fruition! Only son, so sisters and parents were happy. And here I am, decades later, reminiscing about what I have been all this time. I lived in Goa up until the age of six with only my mother, whilst my father and sisters lived in the big city of Bombay. This divided family life was quite common to Goan families endeavoring to make it in life. I do remember when my folks used to come to Goa for the holidays with huge tins of biscuits and dry fruit, for me and Mai; just like people used to stock up provisions for the monsoon season. I do remember playing slippery slides from the high Sand Dunes, and going to the Beach! Of course, traveling to Margao town, by Carreras the petrol buses from FIAT was quite a treat. In Bombay, I was inducted into St Sebastians Goan High School; I was able to finish 11 years matriculation at age of 15 years, with flying colours, scoring distinctions in Algebra, Geometry, Physics, Chemistry, and French; ably assisted by Mr. Keni (Math and Science) and Mr. Kamat (middle school), both Goans, and one Mr. Burde who was so obsessed with English Literature, that sometimes he would take two whole periods of tuition to expound on one line of Wordsworth. Keni and Burde helped make me; and induced in all the pupils the need to learn and excel, not just pass! We also had one Mr. Siddique, a Goan as Drawing and Sports master. To them I am very grateful. Two tram stops away, and we used to alternate from front coach to rear, to escape giving the fare to the tram conductor; or hitch hike a ride in the back of the Ghoda Gaddi! Festival times Christmas and or Easter, in Goa and Bombay were good nostalgia; making of traditional sweets, like neuros, cornbollam, dodol, mandare, pinag, chakli, cake, etc. Neuros stuffed with salt were specially kept for the unsuspecting friendly (?) visitor. The females usually helped each other from house to house with preparation of sweets; and the males did likewise with decorations and running errands! The Christmas Carols serenades and the Mando/dulpod singing/serenading with donated Feni/Uraq of course, from house to house, in both Goa and Bombay bring back sweet memories, of my innocent youth! The Catholic Gymkhanna was a central point for sports and social activity, for me and my friends where we used to meet! Life in Bandra brought about more enjoyable activities, interacting with my (East Indian) Catholic friends as well, at the Bandra Feast and the Bandra Gymkhanna. During the time of my schooling, came about Indias Independence and all the woes that came with it; as also my Papa breathed his last quite prematurely. I could not afford UNI, and had to rely on an Engineering Apprenticeship to achieve my ambitious goals! With a Sea going career and I was happy and prosperous, though not fully satisfied. My career exposed me to a variety of cultures, for a good 25 years in all, and thus earned the name of old sea dog! I went all out to imbibe the best in other cultures and observance thru sightseeing! I became international and I loved it and still do! After Princess Street and Bandra in Bombay, I lived the last 17 years before migrating, in Goa. My large stylish house and home, that I modernized throughout, to a very high standard, enabled the Good Life, and my mother was happy to see her grand children grow up in front of her, in comparative affluence. My mother died before I could get the car and for this I feel bad. The car made it possible for me to travel within Goa and socialize; so I made a lot of friends with the elite as well. In Goa I discovered the sheer beauty of Goas Culture and the Scenic splendor. Most of all I loved the Khell Tiatro, and I made a bee line to wherever one was being performed. Cannot forget the spontaneous Carnival Mischief and the Fancy Dress competitions. Partying, Entertaining and Dancing have always been with me, in true Goan style; and I excelled in it. My wife too was the essential ingredient to our chosen lifestyle in Goa, but she is no more! My kids and self always cherish the good time in Goa. However when I did make a return visit to my Goa in 2004 and 2005; I found it is unlivable so to say! I will stop reminiscing now, lest I erase the good memories, but not without saying: Viva Goa! Viva re Viva! Viva Goan Culture! ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goane
[Goanet] Doce-baji
Ah ha, more like it, Goanet! Caring, sharing. Power to your apron, Da. Livia! I'll bring the 'broken' wheat (maybe you can give me some 'Erva-doce' in barter.) Tell me when I must buy my first ticket to Portugal -- on an Indian passport, of course! -- to taste the captioned subject. Ah, ha, Doce Baji. -Valmiki - Original Message - From: "Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha" > > Fortunately, a few authors of recipe books on Goan Cuisine do include "dos > bhaji". I have many of these recipes, including one from my mother and the > other from my mother-in-law. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa news for August 25, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** HC issues showcause notice to Goa govt (NDTV) Lifeguards in Goa have been on strike from August 12 demanding that their jobs be regularized. Since then, 12 tourists have drowned at the state's popular beaches. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=HC issues showcause notice to Goa govt &id=91993 *** Union govt okays Goa's first SEZ (Business Standard India) The Union Commerce Ministry has cleared Goas first Special Economic Zone (SEZ) at Keri in the Ponda taluka." Among the 46 SEZs approved by the central government, is the Meditab Specialities SEZ at Bhootkhamb, a village in Keri where Nylon 6,6 project was proposed a decade ago. http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage_c.php?leftnm=11&bKeyFlag=IN&autono=4684 *** Science expo kicks off in City (Deccan Herald) Kendriya Vidyalaya, NAL branch, kick-started the two-day regional science exhibition at its premises on Thursday. Over 260 students from 44 Kendriya Vidyalayas of Karnataka, Goa and parts of Kerala participated in the exhibition. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/aug252006/city2040532006824.asp *** Centre urged to modify education bill (The Hindu) PANAJI: Goa State Primary Teachers' Association(GSPTA), affiliated to All India Primary Teachers' Federation(AIPTF), has expressed concern about the provisions of the "Right to Education Bill, 2005" and has urged the Centre to modify the ... http://www.thehindu.com/2006/08/24/stories/2006082405260700.htm *** Mobile electricity vans to cater to rural areas in Goa (New Kerala) Panaji, Aug 21: Goa's unique mobile electricity vans, which catered to the needs of the state's towns 24x7 basis, will now be available for villages too, Goa Power Minister Digamber Kamat said. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=10200 *** High Court issues notices to Goa government over drownings (New Kerala) Panaji, Aug 23: The Goa bench of the Bombay High Court has taken suo moto cognizance of an increase in drowning deaths off Goa's beaches and issued notices to the state government, tourism department and Goa Tourism Development Corporation. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=11509 *** Goa to host cultural centre meet (New Kerala) Panaji, Aug 24: Rajasthan Governor Pratibha Patil will arrive in Goa tomorrow to chair a meeting of the governing council of the West Zone Cultural Centre at Dona Paula on the outskirts of this city. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=11764 *** Tanuja case: police team leaves for MP (Navhind Times) Panaji, Aug 23: A Goa police team today left for Madhya Pradesh to collect evidence in the Tanuja Naik murder case. The police are expected to seize the country-made gun used for killing Tanuja and retrieve the gold chain which was snatched from her neck before murdering her. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=082416 *** Surlas 45-year wait for Goas power ends (Navhind Times) Panaji, Aug 23: It took 45 years after Goas liberation for Surla, in Sattari taluka, one of states remotest village, to get connected to the state power supply network today. The village was earlier supplied power from Karnataka, amid complaints of load-shedding and frequent outages by villagers. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=082415 *** Compensate for Dharamjit injury: Bagan to AIFF(Yahoo! India News) The Mohun Bagan administration is planning to take the All India Football Federation (AIFF) to task over the injury to its ace player Dharamjit Singh.The club officials have decided to shoot off a letter to the national body, asking the AIFF to "clarify or compensate" for being responsible for the injury to the midfielder during the senior national team's opening preparatory camp in Goa. http://in.news.yahoo.com/060823/48/66wx0.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Attribution is the greatest error of humankind - Konkani play called "Jinn"
Jinn Tiatr by John Dsilva RON FIDELIS The meaning of this small word, Jinn could be as big as ones lifespan. This word actually means life, says John Dsilva, the writer and director of this play who has closely examined the case of a no-way-out situation in his play. Rather, the repercussions of precisely such a situation have been showcased via the unfolding plot of this drama. No doubt, this Catch 22 sort of a situation comes about by the element of chance as is always the case, this situation could also happen to just about anybody on this planet. And as usual, assumptions get the better of us and just like psychological studies say, attribution is the greatest error of humankind. Now for those who are less-psycho in nature (he he), attribution refers to the kind of thoughts (assumptions) that would happen in ones head if a friend fails to turn up at an important appointment and there is no clue as to where the heck he is. Though some in the audience may even feel that a plot like this has been done by playwrights earlier; however, this is definitely not an excuse to miss the performances of the artists since the play may come across like that to begin with, but it is only towards the latter half that one gets to see a totally different turn in the story. The bottom line in the play being sacrifice of true love over practicality a situation that is rarely seen in the current times, it is the sort of play with a storyline that would leave you curious to witness the facial reactions of the people to whom the situations are targeted at in the play anyways. With the captain of the team, John Dsilva himself playing the lead comedians role, the humor element this season has been well taken care of by this tiatro. His slow-motion reactions to a dialogue with an expression on his face that would make you read what his mind might be saying with ease, was very instrumental in sending the audiences squealing with laughter. Also do note that the comedy here is absolutely clean in nature and in spite of that it can render quite an ache in ones tummy. Supporting John at his comedy are Salvi playing a quack doctor, Remedios playing er a jumping jack since there could be no other words to define his character except this and Succur De Tilamol playing one of the patients. It is a known fact that farcical humor and even a dash of slapstick humor are accepted well by the tiatro-frequenting crowds and to those who love this sort of humor, this show is truly a treat as the type of humor shown in this play has been well done. The band for this tiatro has Manu on the Trumpet, John Siqueira on the Sax, Jose Carvalho on the Organ, Anicet on the Drums and Lawry on the Bass. Besides this, Mathew, Carmin Sequira, Peter de Pedda, Nancy, Elvis Siqueira, Xavier Gomes and Elvis De Sinquetim (guest appearance) are the remaining members of the cast. Like every situation that we come across in our day-to-day lives, there are these lines that many-a-times inspire us or impress us or even sometimes allows us to influence and show off amongst our peers. Herald is going to be displaying just these from each Tiatro. The Line of this play is one that speaks about saliva. Such is the almost literal translation of the spotlight line of this particular play. Saliva, when in the mouth is seen as part of our physicality, but when spat out; it is looked at as gross or yucky in a derogatory way. Indeed, ( .and almost literally) food for thought! ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Of Forked Tongues and the MotherTongue -- Language in Goan Politics (FN)
<> Fred -- that was a wonderful expose on the subject IMHO, besides being the most visible journalist in cyberspace, you're the most active and dedicated Goanetter, where forked tongues abound. Thanks for bringing us selfless and unbiased coverage gratis, with your copyleft hallmark. Dev Borem Korum: Pat ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The language question in Goa
That was one gem of an expose on the linguistics embroglio in Goa. This is the first time I've read a perspicuous unravelling of this complicated subject. Do we have a language pandemonium or what? You've astutely explained the Goa language brouhaha in the light of so many factors and forces.cultural, religious, historical and regional, etc. What you have produced is nothing short of a "piece-de-resistance". Bravo!!! You can write. After the day is done what is it that the language advocates on all sides of this debate are really trying to achieve? If they're truly worried about Goa surviving, nay thriving, in the modern world and the future, let's be realistic. When are they going to shed their differences and prejudices be they regional, religion-based, caste-derived or cultural for the common good of India and Goa in particular? To the outsider it appears the contending parties concerned are missing the forest because of the trees. Metaphorically, Goa is a gold mine from so many aspects. I hope the good inhabitants of this lovely land will stop dissipating their energies and resources in this futile controversy and give common sense, harmony and true patriotism a fighting chance. Yes, I'm fascinated by the lilt of Konkani and its bucolic charm and idiom and hope it's preserved ad infinitum to perpetuate Goa's and the Konkan's rich culture and heritage. But let's not lose sight of reality. Let's get the protagonists to develop it's classical literature regardless of the script used. That's the best way to initiate its universal recognition. Give the world a Shakespeare, a Cervantes, a Hemingway, a Jane Austen in the Konkani language. Then have these works translated into the leading languages of the world starting with English. That's the best way to answer the critics of this charming language honoured recently with recognition in the Indian constitution. Politics alone cannot do it, but literary genius and hard work can. As a reputed maven of cyberspace and an excellent writer in the English medium, I hope you can convince fellow Goans back home to sink their differences and realize that only by adopting and promoting a uniform language of international stature with a technical and expanding vocabulary can we make true progress. Multiculturism in a harmonious environment should by no means be suppressed but should not be confused with fissiparous divisions that could only lead to jingoism and ultimately disintegration. Keep up the good work. Sincerely Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU GOANET.---25th
At the outset, Heartiest Congratulations for the very successful 12 year completion of your growing Goanet. Keep it up. Indeed UR doing a yeoman service & specially for our fellow Goan brethren spread out across our planet. Yes UR a true - the 4th.Pillar of our Democracy! Wish U all the best and God bless YOU. Warmest Regards, Yours Sincerely, Simon de Souza. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
