[Goanet-news] Goa news for February 26, 2007
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market 2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors Great Investment - Winter Getaway Asking Canadian $ 31,500/- or Indian Rs 10 lakhs Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Material costs squeeze Arcelor Mittal's profit (Miami Herald) Arcelor and Mittal Steel, which have agreed on a deal to form the world's largest steel maker, said Wednesday their combined earnings fell 3.5 percent in 2006 because of a price squeeze from higher raw material costs but said this year will be better. http://origin.thestate.com/mld/miamiherald/business/16752837.htm?source=rsschannel=miamiherald_business *** Union to challenge Maryland steel mill sale (The Plain Dealer) Hagerstown, Md.- The United Steelworkers threatened Wednesday to try to block a sale of the Sparrows Point steel mill near Baltimore unless the union is satisfied that the federally ordered divestment is in its workers' best interest. http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business/1172147549265120.xmlcoll=2 *** Gui Boratto Delivers Chromophobia on Kompakt, Tours (Pitchfork) The capital letter-mongers at Kompakt have done it again! On February 26, the German techno powerhouse releases the excellent debut full length from 33-year-old, São Paulo, Brazil-based producer and electronic artiste Gui Boratto . http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/41359/Gui_Boratto_Delivers_Chromophobia_on_Kompak *** The Netherlands: Steel Earnings Decline (New York Times) Arcelor and Mittal Steel, which have agreed on a deal to form the world?s largest steel maker, said their combined earnings fell 3.5 percent, to $7.97 billion, in 2006 because of higher raw material costs. The companies also said they had $4.5 billion to $5 billion available for acquisitions this year, and confirmed that they were examining the financial records of an Indian steel maker, Sesa ... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/22/business/worldbusiness/22fobriefs-STEELEARNING_BRF.html *** Oracle beefs up presence in India (Electronic Engineering Times Asia) Oracle has completed the first phase of expansion into 17 of India's high-growth cities. This brings Oracle's total footprint in India to 23 cities. http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800454078_499495_52ac84df20070223.HTM?from=RSS *** Arcelor Mittal 2006 profit falls 3.5% on higher tax (International Herald Tribune) The company formed last year in the largest-ever takeover in the steel industry predicted a better 2007. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/21/bloomberg/bxsteel.php *** Hockey Today - Feb. 23 (Covers.com) SCOREBOARD Friday, Feb. 23 Boston at Tampa Bay (8 p.m. EST). The Bruins are trying to make a late playoff push with five wins in their last six games. STARS Thursday - Glen Wesley , Hurricanes, scored a short-handed goa... http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=131279 *** Before You Go to India (About.com) India has long been one of Asia's leading tourist destinations. There is so much to see and do. From the beaches of Goa to the snow capped mountains of Ladakh, India offers extreme experiences. Monuments like the Taj Mahal and Humayun's Tomb leave deep impressions on those who visit the country. http://goasia.about.com/od/india/bb/bygtindia.htm *** [GOAA] Greek Orthodox Archdiocese E-Bulletin February 23, 2007 (Worldwide Faith News) This is the weekly edition of the GOA E-Bulletin. For more information just click on the links below to go to the topics of interest to you.If the link does not work from your email, copy the link and paste it into the address bar of your web browser.RESOURCES FOR GREAT LENT: This special web site will provide you with information, readings, hymns, articles, and much more on each of the ... http://www.wfn.org/2007/02/msg00245.html *** Top 10 offbeat movie locales (MSNBC) Sometimes it's not the director, or the editing, or even the actors that make a movie #148; it's the scenery. If you've ever been so inspired by a movie's landscapes that you wanted to book your trip right there and then, you know exactly what we mean. And while there are places that are synonymous with the big screen (New York and Paris come to mind) we've focused on off-the-beaten-path locales ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17265933/ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet-news mailing list Goanet-news@lists.goanet.org
[Goanet] Victor Menezes Convention Center
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Release Source: IIT Bombay Heritage Fund Foundation Stone Laying Ceremony for the Victor Menezes Convention Centre Monday February 5, 7:32 pm ET Victor Menezes (BTech '70 EE), Retired Senior Vice Chairman of Citigroup, Lays Foundation Stone for Convention Centre on IIT Bombay's Campus in Mumbai, India MUMBAI, India CUPERTINO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--The foundation stone laying ceremony for the Victor Menezes Convention Centre was held on Monday, January 29, on the campus of the Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay. The Convention Centre will be built with a generous gift of $3 million to the IIT Bombay Heritage Fund (IITBHF) from Victor Menezes (BTech '70 EE), retired Senior Vice Chairman of Citigroup, Inc. The ceremony was attended by faculty and staff members, as well as current students and alumni of IIT Bombay. I am happy to give back in a small way to my alma mater, which has given me so much. I hope the Convention Centre will be a catalyst for collaborative discussion and development across the Institute. Ultimately, IIT will be judged not by its buildings but by the intellectual property development and research done by world-class f! aculty and students, said Mr. Menezes. Director Ashok Misra thanked Mr. Menezes for his generous support for this important facility, and added that the project was expected to be completed within a year, in time for the start of IIT Bombay's Golden Jubilee celebrations. Prof Deepak Phatak, Convener of the Golden Jubilee Committee (http://gjubilee.iitb.ac.in), said that the foundation stone laying ceremony marked the beginning of many major initiatives to mark the fiftieth anniversary of the founding of IIT Bombay. As we approach the Golden Jubilee year, it is gratifying to see that Victor's generous contribution will enhance the ability of the Powai campus to serve various stakeholders such as students, industry and academia. Victor is setting a great example for all IIT Bombay alumni to emulate, said Parag Saxena (BTech '77 ChE), Director of IITBHF and CEO of Vedanta Capital, and a member of the Forbes Midas List 2007. The Convention Centre will have a state-of-the art auditorium with a capacity of 300, a seminar hall, classrooms and meeting rooms, and ample space for foyers and informal meeting areas. The top two of the five floors in the centre will be occupied by the Manuel Menezes Center - Civil Engineering Annex. IIT Bombay is widely recognized as one of the leading educational institutions in India and in the world. The school regularly attracts the largest number of students from the top 100 rankers in the JEE, the highly competitive national entrance examination for the Indian Institutes of Technology. IIT Bombay's alumni have risen to positions of senior leadership in business and academics across the globe. The global network of over 32,000 alumni stays connected via the alumni website at http://www.iitbombay.org and through a network of over fifteen Chapters located worldwide. Contact: IIT Bombay Heritage Fund Sandeep Pandya, +1-408-252-1664 fax: 208-498-5404 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iitbombay.org or Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay Ms. Aruna Thosar-Dixit, +91-22-2576-7026 fax: +91-22-2576-7027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iitb.ac.in
[Goanet] Railways: Besides Bombay Delhi, where else once can go direct from Goa ?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Railways: Besides Bombay Delhi, where else once can go direct from Goa ? There are 5 trains to Bombay daily 4 to Delhi About 6 to Kerala Plus to Bangalore, Chandigarh, Calcutta, Madras, Agra Cant etc Check this out... ALL Margao Departures: Mangala To Ernakulam (kerela) 1925 Daily Ernakulam 7.45 sun/Tue Ernakulam 13.25 Sat Ernakulam 1325 Sun Ernakulam 12.25 Sun Ernakulam 22.40 (netravati) Netravati To Trivendrum (Kerala) 2240 Daily Trivendrum 07.45 Fri/Sat Trivendrum 7.45 Thursday Rajdani to Trivendrum 12,35 Mon/Wed To Gandhidam 10.55Sat via Ahmedabad Jn Jaipur 10.35 Mon via Kota Jn OKA 10.55 Thur Sat via Ahmedhabad jn Rajdani (TO Delhi) Wed/Fri Mangala (Delhi 0325 Daily Goa Sampark (Delhi) 11.15 Tue Another one from Vasco daily (see below) Pune 15.20 Tue Via Belgaum/Miraj Jodpur 10.55 Sun Hopa/Veraval 10.55 Tue via Ahmedabad Jn TO Mangalore 00.20 Sat ? Matyagandha Mangalore 00.20 daily via Karwar/Udpi Another Local form Margao 14.25 Daily To Karwar at 1900 daily To Diva 7.15 daily via Ratnagiri/Panvel (Diva 10 kms from thane or 35 kms from Dadar) Nagorcoil 07.45 Sat Kerala Sampartk to Chandigarh 0210 Sat (kerala Sampark)to Kuchuveli 21.10 Thurs Konkan Kanya TO Bombay 1800 Daily Netravati Bombay 0600 Daily Mandovi Bombay 10.00 Daily MatsyaGand Bombay 20.55 daily Janshetabdi to Dadar (Bombay) 14.20 Except Thursday/ now Daily? From Vasco da Gama Delhi 1510 Daily (3 more from Margao see abv) Chenai (Madras) 14.30 Thursday Yeswanpur (Bangalore) 2045 Mon/Sat Howra (Calcutta) 07.50 Tue/Thurs/Fri/Sun For correct and uptodate info, always phone Railways. Konkan Railway Corporation Telephone Numbers of Stations in Goa Pernem 0832-2201283 Thivim 0832 - 2298682 Karmali 0832 - 2285798 Verna0832 - 2754289 Majorda 0832 - 2790902 Margao 0832 - 2703950 Enquiry: 2712790/132 Police: 2706048 Balli0832 - 2670270 Canacona 0832 - 2643644 Computerised Reservation Offices in Goa S.NO. LOCATION RAILWAY 1 MADGAON KR 2 PANAJIKR 3 VASCO-DA-GAMA SWR [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] California Easter Sunday event: April 8, 2007 - Tickets on sale!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tickets are now on sale for Goa Sudharop's exciting Easter Sunday event in the San Francisco Bay Area. Net proceeds from the event to benefit environmental issues in Goa. Ages 17+: Only $25 per person which includes a Buffet lunch, entertainment, dancing to popular DJ music. Kids 16 and under are free! Please include their names even though they are free so we have a headcount for catering purposes. Make your check payable to Goa Sudharop and mail asap to: Robert Dias 2855 Rathmann Drive San Jose, CA, 95148, USA Phone: 1-408-532-0571 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you would like to attend but cannot for financial reasons, please email Robert privately and he will waive the fee. This event is being held in connection with Goa Sudharop's 2007 theme YEAR OF THE ENVIRONMENT. Don't miss this fun-filled and important event for the whole family from noon-6pm. No membership required, all welcome. Free parking. Free babysitting available on site. Tentative program: Noon - 12:30pmEaster egg hunt for kids (please bring an empty basket for your kid) 12:30 - 2:00pm Buffet Lunch 2:00 - 2:15pm Presentation of certificates to school children 2:15 - 2:30pm Environmental presentation on Goa. 2:30 - 3:00pm Student essay/poster environmental presentations. 3:00 - 6:00pm Dancing to popular DJ music. Please mark your calendar now and tell your family/friends. The event will be held at the grand Golden Peacock Banquet Hall (San Francisco Bay Area), 3681 Peralta Blvd., Fremont, California, USA, 94536. Phone: (510) 494-9460. Come, spend the afternoon with us - all for a very worthy cause. Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Goa's educational system
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sunith Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with Goan education is that most students(especially Catholics from the Coastal belts) are lacking in motivation. Why bother with working hard in school when a job lifting crates in the Gulf, Paris or London awaits you. - Will someone say the magic word thank you, for we have at long last discovered what ails the Goa education system. It is those hapless fellows that make their way to the Gulf or work onboard ships. Instead, they should stay in Goa serving cocktails and mocktails to lager louts, so that their children will be inspired er motivated to do better in school. What next, Gulfies and shippies held accountable for RP2011, malaria and dengue fever? selma Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail
[Goanet] Drinking at the art fountain
to be a garden. For some reason this painting hypnotises me. I politely told Surabhi that I could not afford the painting; but for five days, I spent long moments daily devouring that painting with my eyes. Thank you Subodh Kerkar (pause) is in a class apart. Dominating the art scene for so long, and with installations which never fail to deliver. You see Subodh everywhere, even at the Saturday Night Market. Other Goan artists should learn from him on how to innovate and achieve maximum visibility. Thank you Sushant Naik, Shilpa Nasnolkar, Sanjay Naik, Seby Akkara, Shaistah Thapar, Suryawanshi P.A., Savio Peres, Swapna Godshay, Shripad Gurav, Sonia Rodrigues (pause) was not present, though her paintings were. Somehow I feel that the Festival is just not complete without Sonia and her colourful table selling those delightful puppets and stuff for children. We want you back Sonia. And for that matter where are the regular old hands like Alexyz, Apurva Kulkarni, Tanya Mendonca, Viraj Naik, Shilpa Mayenkar, Theodore Mesquita, Francis DeSouza, Hanuman Kambli, Rajeshree Thakkar, Querozito de Souza, Liesl Cotta... ? Unlike some two years back, I didn't hear of any rift between the artists and the organisers. I wonder why Goan artists are not participating in the numbers that they should? Thank you Shrikrisha Naik, Vitesh Naik, Vrinda (pause) whose sheer range of subjects and mediums is quite riveting. Thank you Vasudev Shetye, Viththal Naik, Vishesh Chari, Vikrant Kumar and Wilson D'Souza (pause) who is an old favourite of mine and a most agreeable person to converse with. On Monday I took my two brats for the festival so they could imbibe some art at a young age. Despite all explanations and distractions all they were interested in was getting temporary tattoos as they did last year. None of the tattoo artists were around but Kim Elaine Araujo most graciously obliged and went to her home nearby to get her brushes and paint. Kim had a table with her superb art in different media on display. And this very talented artist is just thirteen years old. Way to go kiddo - and thank you for making my kids happy! --- The column above appeared in Gomantak Times dated 15th Feb 2007 === -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070225/3aed3002/attachment.htm
[Goanet] Fingers in every pie?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Times of India (TOI) 24/2/07 had this article titled Church land not yours to sell, trust told. It opens with In an unusual step, the ministry of defence's estates office has written to the Bishop (Church of North India) and the Charity Commissioner reasserting its ownership over the plot that houses the Afghan Church and Bishiop's residence in Colaba (Bombay). The letter is dated Jan 16. The report continues The Afghan Church property is not the only one which is on defence land but in use by the BTDA (Bombay Diocesan Trust Association). According to the Defence Estates Office 'Indian church trustees have the right to *possession control and use* (sic) of the site and church buildings for religious purposes. Ownership or title of the land remains with government of India (specifically the ministry of defence) (sic).. Further the report says The Afghan Church was originally under government control but after Independence, the Ecclesiastical Affairs Department that handled church matters was closed. The property was then handed over to church properties but always on the strict understanding blah blah blah. The expression handed over is used in connection with Dabolim airport too! According to the official in the TOI report There is no question of the title of the land being handed over. The land remains the property of the government. As for Dabolim, the Navy's claim is that it was part of a Portuguese garrison. Hence government property and hence Indian government was 'entitled' to it (I use the term advisedly!) just as it was able to claim church property. So far however the government has NOT categorically stated that it owns title to Dabolim land in reply to a question in the Rajya Sabha by Shantaram Naik, MP.
[Goanet] A letter to the editor
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] In today's TOI the following letter which I sent to the Times of India (Ahmedabad) has appeared, I gather, in a truncated form. Hope it will be of interest. Airline Merger .. or Mirage? The Civil Aviation Minister, Praful Patel, may be hallucinating when he talks of a Maharajah of the Skies offering seamless service to passengers in this region (Business Times, 23/2/07). He believes there is going to be a merger of Air India and Indian. On paper this may soon be a fact. But he will inevitably find that there is a domestic low cost carrier and a long distance full service carrier to be integrated seamlessly. The games are quite different. Unless these two businesses are hived off to make their separate ways in the industry the new entity will face a severe straddling penalty. There is bound to be a battle royal over the lucrative mid-range market especially of the Gulf and perhaps South-east Asia. No doubt the government has rushed into the merger due to its own fear of losing the public sector carriers to stiff competition from all sides. But it is unlikely that the employees, on whom the success of the whole enterprise depends, have any fear of losing their jobs if they dont co-operate and produce. Do they really believe they have to either hang together or they will hang separately? The new entity may well end up being king of ground handling in India, practically a flightless bird. PS Thomas
[Goanet] Religious competitions-fight between Glenda and Bosco de Melo
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refreing a fight between glenda and Bosco de Mello seems rather very interesting. None know what is right and what is wrong. Both are trying to defend their arguments in the air. The answer to why clergy has not said anything to Glenda is because they themselves do not know what is right and what is wrong. Bosco seems to be defending something he just heard from the clergy themselves or read what they have written. We have the vatican council book sent to each and every church. It is a fat book which no priests have even opened. It is rightly collecting dust. If you open that book and just read it few pages at a time you will find everything contradictory to what is preached and done in the church. I request both Glenda and Bosco to go to their respective parish priests and take that book it contains more than thousand pages and just read it instead of fighting on this goanet. Ann Marie Fernandes. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial ?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, So is Nehru to blame why Goan Cooks and Butlers are not quite entrepreneurial with all their epicurean skills like the Bhayya Bhelpuri wallahs from Uttar Pradesh ? Why or Why not ? Or is it the fervent Portuguese-Catholic culture among Goan Christaos - where entrepreneurial money making is frowned upon and it is considered a sin to be a rich entrepreneur (aka business man) ! Mario responds: Carmo, You certainly did not see any blame for Nehru in anything I wrote with regard to those Goan cooks and butlers who you say are not entrepreneurial - only for the monumental waste and inefficiency and mounting poverty of India's first 50 years since independence. However, while your Bhayya Bhelpuriwallahs are entrepreneurial by definition, some Goan cooks and butlers are as well, and there are most Bhayyas are not entrepreneurial and work as laborers. Besides, many of the Goans you deride may have been more enterprising because they are to be found all over the world making a better living for their families than most of your jhopdi-existing, railway-line-urinating and defecating, pavement-spitting, public-electricity-robbing bhayya bhelpuriwallahs. BTW, while on the subject of entrepreneurial Goans, albeit not from the cook and butler category, while visiting Goa recently, I was surprised to find that most of the local Goans did not know who Mark Fernandes (the investment banker, not my cousin) or Francisco DeSouza were, even though everyone knew who Victor Menezes is, whose achievements in entrepreneurial wealth creation in the US these Goan youngsters may have surpassed now.
[Goanet] Catholic schools
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Once for a class debate with the topic Should Goa get state hood or not in 1964, the speakers including myself all spoke of rotten government and criticised it thoroughly while speaking against the proposition. Finally the teacher Fr.Fortunatus stroking his bead said Fest eka santachem ani sermao sanglo dusre santacho. We all felt like fish out of water. I began the topic on catholic schools with a small message Can't we have our own board? can't we join a good board and the defence went flying high and reached a point of no return and so many accusations and nick names etc etc from catholic schools to catholic churches and clergy bogos saiba. what is the topic of discussion and where is the \line drawn for discussions? mea culpa albert _ Crave for a healthier lifestyle? Ask an expert http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/AskExpert/Default07.htm
[Goanet] TALK by Fr. Salvador Gomes Coutinho on Rehabilitation of Mentally Disturbed Individuals. All are invited
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fr. Salvador Gomes Coutinho invites all for a 'TALK' at 6:30 p.m. tomorrow (February 26th) at the Faker Eldeen Palace, Kuwait City. Helping mentally disturbed citizens Beth-Beth-Lehem is a non Profit, non Sectarian Association set up for the rehabilitation of mentally disturbed individuals of any age irrespective of caste, creed or community. The main objective of the association is to provide a place where mentally disturbed citizens will be given an opportunity to re-habilitate themselves and become respected members of society. The relative objective is to give any individual - whether lay or religious, an opportunity to work with the above citizens, based on the philosophy of the association which believes in the healing of the tongue to help achieve wholeness. Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for the conviction of things not seen. This is the faith on the basis of which the Beth-Beth-Lehem association will be built. For, as is said in the Phillippians 4:19 The association gives an open invitation to all God's children to take up this challenging task, to allow these promises of God to penetrate into their spirit and not to permit them to allow circumstances, difficulties and hardships hinder their promises from being fulfilled through them. Projects The main objective is to bring in persons who are mentally disturbed and those who are neglected by society, specially people who roam the streets and railway stations, with no clothes, no bathroom facilities, live in garbage heaps and whom no family will accept. These Citizens will be helped in their journey from brokenness to Wholeness. All along prayer will be a part of the healing process. The individuals who are touched and healed will work in the association to bring the same healing process to others who come in. The association will also help the individual to either locate family members or to try and find a place in society thus making a good Citizen. Beth-Beth-Lehem is founded by Father Salvadore Gomes Coutinho Contact us at: Beth-Beth-Lehem Headquarters Kunde Complex, St. Joaquim Road Borda, Margao, Goa - 403 601 India Tel No: 91-832-2706665 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goa-world.com/goa/about_goa/ http://www.daijiworld.com/news/default.asp?city=goa http://www.fullerlife.in/Goenchoulo/goencho_ulo_jan_07.pdf The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
[Goanet] When Parrikar becomes CM, he will shutup all Maharashtrawadi Supporters, Naysayers
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vidhyadhor, (as they say it in Bengali - but dhor has different, apt connotation for you in amchi Konkani), I am sorry you have not seen the answer to my question in a subsequent email. (Keep checking Goanet) We really do not need Ganti naysayers and Maharashtrawadi supporters in Goa for the greater good of our beloved State ! When Niz Goenkar and highly educated IITian Manohar Parrikar becomes Chief Minister of Goa in May he will transform Goa into one of the most progressive states of the Indian Union ! Can you name any one Goa chief minister who was better educated and a better, knowledgeable champion of good governance than Manohar Parriker ? He will be a shinning example of a Goan IIT graduate for all Goan students aspiring for an IIT engineering career - The Goa SSC curricullum will be revamped and Goan IITians will return to Goa in droves and set up IIT Joint Entrance Exam coaching classes (in addition to high tech companies) for Goan students all over Goa and we will stuff the IITs with Goan students ! Also as a technocratic IITian, Manohar Parrikar will understand IT and the needs of the IT industry and all foreign and Indian multi-national IT companes will flock to Goa and set up their operations there. They will provide high paying jobs to all Goans. We will then attain Goa Dourada (Golden Goa) and all Goans (not just the Gulfees, shippies, hippies and foreign returnees) will be able to enjoy Chicken Dobrada at Ernestos in Panjim and brag about the Dobrad Shanno Manohar Parrikar who is CM of Goa ! Viva Goa ! Viva Parrikar ! Viva ! Viva ! Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Goan, IITian ex Velim, Goa now INDIAN Harbour Beach, Florida CARMO Message: 5 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:36:52 +0530 From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial To: goanet@lists.goanet.org On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial ? So is Nehru to blame why Goan Cooks and Butlers are not quite entrepreneurial with all their epicurean skills like the Bhayya Bhelpuri wallahs from Uttar Pradesh ? Why or Why not ? What a question, and coming from you of all people! The answer to this (as to all problems of Goa) is quite simple. It is because the foolish Goan people in their wilful unwisdom have not seen fit to anoint Manohar Parrikar -- the magnificent, great, sensational, fantastic, superb, unmatchable, etc. etc., who will go on to become PM of India and be the most magnificent (etc. etc. same as above) PM India has ever had -- as CM of Goa. Once they do that and get rid of all the GOAN GOON GAON CHORS and Maharashtrawadi gantis etc. and bring in the IIT educated, entrepreneurial, enterprising etc. etc. Manohar Parrikar, then Goans will become heads of all the big hotel chains in the world, occupy all seats in the IITs (oh, heaven) and Goa will wake into a new dawn !. Vidyadhar Gadgil
[Goanet] Aao portuguese
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Noone eats using the fork in the right hand unless he is left handed. I have been to states and eaten with the americans. Even when laying the table you keep the knife in the right side fork in the left side and the spoon in the front side. While eating the knife is held in the right hand and the fork in the left hand for you need to cut the meat specially the stew or roasted meat. Once that is over and rice is to be eaten you have to place the knife on the front side and take the spoon in the right hand. In the past when we used to sit at the table the fish dish was served first. The table though was laid one did not take it unless being served by the servants. Once the fish dish was over meat was served and finally the pulao. I think rice and curry is eaten only in India and some few bording places and is never served at the table else where. Dr.Cruz comes out with his rare ideas and arguments. We do not follow the dress code in Goa. In Uk the dress code for evening parties or weddings is black pant and white suit coat with a bow. In the morning the coat is black with a tie. But surprising when the same people from UK, America or other european countries knowing fully well what they dress in their countries were T shirts when they attend weddings in Goa as if Goans do not have respect here . Ann Marie Fernandes _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Dayanand Narvekar's fantasies
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rajan, You're sexuality-suffused argument lacks in logic to me. To be fair, all the politicians of Goa have a grandios vision (while delivering little in terms of actuals). The fault is with us, because we have not been holding them accountable with consistency. If we embark on campaigns, we spare our favourites while lashing out selectively. Would you care to explain how Narvekar's vision differs from that of a Rane or of a Wilfred de Souza, and specially from that of your namesake, Manohar? Does anyone have a monopoly over grand talk, out-of-sync visions, and grander corruption (even if done very systematically and going into party coffers, rather than into individual pockets)? FN On 24/02/07, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Narvekar's vertically focussed ejaculate, from his IT missionary position - From the Navhind Times: Finally, [Dayanand Narvekar] observed that Goa could match all the likes of Dubai and Singapore with their international lifestyle, stating When one is planning strategy for the knowledge economy base, one should be vertically focussed. Warm regards, -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/
[Goanet] HERALD: When money talks, laws take a walk in Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] When money talks, laws take a walk in Goa BY AGNELO PEREIRA DULER, FEB 24 - If you have the moolah, the right contacts and help from pliable government agencies, you can get your way in Goa. Conditions, guidelines or the laws of the land can then go for a toss. Full story at http://oheraldo.in/node/22752. ^^ Fred Menezes http://chandorvillage.googlepages.com http://blowthelidoff.blogspot.com ^^ ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] ECONOMIC TIMES: Patent shield for Goan feni
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patent shield soon from copycat GI Joes GIREESH CHANDRA PRASAD TIMES NEWS NETWORK [SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2007 04:16:26 AM] NEW DELHI: Goa's feni, Bikaneri bhujia, Tanjore and Madhubani style of painting are all set to get geographical indication (GI) status. Once a product is registered as a GI, producers of other varieties of the same products cannot use the registered name to sell their ware. Full story at http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/Economy/Finance/Patent_shield_soon_from_copycat_GI_Joes/articleshow/1670508.cms. ^^ Fred Menezes http://chandorvillage.googlepages.com http://blowthelidoff.blogspot.com ^^ ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk
[Goanet] Reply to Gilbert Lawrence
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resolution to stop writing on the goanet was taken by me because I am a rabid dog and mhojea matear dvesar bosulai but Gilbert Lawrence may be Rev/Fr.Gilbert Lawrence who knows forced me to write. We pay taxes to the government -not all pay taxes only the poor salaried people pay all the taxes while business people pay minimal -but every pie that comes in the church comes from the contribution from the people, Gilbert you have not seen the basket that is taken round in the church during mass ? Big churches it runs in thousands every sunday while small churches hundreds? may be you do not go to church or stand on the choir.Plus donation for the building of the new church in x place, y place, z place , peter pence and Paul pence and for mission sunday special envelope for which no accounts are given etc etc. I am talking about the people in general and not for myself- come from the gulf donation to the church -getting married -kaim nam re igorjek? Glenda _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 187
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the group of tolos, Red Capitalism has spread like wild fire. The chinese today eat with chop sticks, knives and forks and of course with their hands (Mac Donalds). FYI the biggest Mac lies in the heart of Beijing. Today more and more chinese dine in Portuguese restaurants in Macau, drink the Porto vine like wasser and the favourite dish being Lombo do Porco Velho. Arre tuzem priminha kaem xicoinha tuka? BC From: Sunith D Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Forks and Knives Do the Chinese eat with forks and knives in Macau?? Wouldn't they consider you a clown in most parts of China if you were to eat with a fork and knife instead of chopsticks. What is it you are trying to say?? Sunith ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk
[Goanet] Nehru, Goans, Cooks, Butlers
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, With malice towards none of the participants, this topic has become like a seven year itch. Can we end this subject? Kind Regards, GL --- From: Roland Francis Chris, Would you please elaborate which record you are referring to? Cheers Roland. On 2/24/07, Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nehru's quote is incompletely stated. For the record he referred to Goans (derisively, I believe) as Ayas, butlers and cooks -- ABCs.
Re: [Goanet] With Your 'Aao Portuguese' Podhi Patrade, You are stuck in an Old Brit Paradigm
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dhal baji with knife and fork? For me kashmiri and bhayya make no difference as they are very close to each other. BC --- CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernado, With all your Aao Portuguese Podhi and Patrade (Pride and Prejudice), I must inform you that people in the United States, one of the most advanced countries in the world also eat with the fork in the right hand. Did you know that they switch it to the left hand only when using the knife ? ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk
Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- allwyntc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I think the idea of socialism seemed to many, at that time, to be an attractive alternative to capitalism... I'm not convinced India would have done much better with a different economic model. What, let the global corporate giants come and continue the pillage of the country? I think India needed to be able to play in the international arena with a strong hand, and while economically it was weak, it was self-sufficient in several areas before we came out to play. Mario responds: Allwyn, Socialism is a siren song that has failed miserably wherever it has been tried, created massive economic waste and poverty and disruptions in resource allocation and has therefore been rejected by almost all its major proponents like India, Russia and China. There is a good reason for this. Simply put, a group of ruling elites and the small army of bureaucratic controls that results from socialism, cannot manage an entire economy efficiently and decide what is good for everyone else. The massive brain drain from all socialist countries reflects the failure of socialism, and all the migrations are towards countries that are towards the capitalistic end of the economic spectrum, the US being the large economy closest to capitalism which is the strongest magnet for immigrants. The US is an excellent example of a country that started from scratch with mostly immigrants fleeing religious discrimination. It has never been reluctant to allow people and economic assets from any and everwhere to be freely used within its economy, with a minimum of governmental controls, imposed mainly for political reasons. This allows individuals, all following what they see as their best interests, to decide what they want and need, and the businesses respond to satisfy those wants and needs. Its a win-win situation for everyone, and competition keeps everyone on their toes. We are beginning to see the effects in India, ever since Manmohan Singh was able to influence economic affairs, which was euphemistically called economic liberalization, but not prior to that. The concept of global giants pillaging a country is a myth. Global giants like Enron and several others do not even exist any more. Other global giants like Ford and GM and Daimler-Chrysler are struggling to survive. In the US over 80% of the jobs are created by small and medium sized bussinesses, not the corporate giants. Yet, the US is the most vibrant and consistent economy among all the westernized industrial countries, with low inflation, low taxes, low interest rates and low unemployment rates, and high private ownership of cars and homes and amenities. Low income Americans enjoy a standard of living better than most middle income Europeans. Regarding India playing a strong hand in the international arena, how does being economically weak achieve this? It has far more influence now than the wasted Nehru years. Back then it was all talk and pious posturing, no action. This continues today, especially among the elite who write for the major Indian newspapers and posture at social gatherings. What has India done for any oppressed country, from Rwanda to Darfur to Palestine to Iraq, India is nowhere to be found. In fact, I blame India and other countries like it for the mess in Iraq. They sat on the sidelines and watched impotently from 1991 on, when Saddam was violating 17 UN Security Council resolutions to disclose an accounting of his WMDs, and massacring hundreds of thousands of his own citizens in order to preserve his power. Even when Saddam was given an ultimatum in UN 1441, and the coalition was massed on its borders, India and these countries were unable to convince him to tell the UN inspectors a) whether he had destroyed his WMDs and b) proof that he had done so. Now, they implausibly expect us to believe that Saddam did not have any WMDs but was willing to give up his cushy dictatorship just because he did not want to tell the UN this and provide proof - after previously raping, torturing and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis in order to stay in power. What kind of a cynical and callous democracy is India and the others that they sit and watch and do not use their supposed influence to help another country become free and democratic, after the US spilled it own blood to give the Iraqis an opportunity they never had before? The UN confirmed that 12 million Iraqis voted in each of three elections, even at the
[Goanet] Why is Godo derogatory ?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liverpool beat Barcelona and the papers labeled Ronaldinho a 'Gordo'. Today Ronaldinho had a blistering game and his fans held placards stating 'Rondldinho no esta Gordo'. Portuguese as well as konkani also use the term 'Godo' derogatorily. Do Hindu Goans also use this term, or is it just Christaos who use it ? There was a Liverpool football player called the horse - this was done affectionately ! There was also one 'Crazy Horse' of N. America Fame. What is the connotation of 'Godo' in Portuguese and konkani ? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Goa and the Democratic Experiment
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both Paulo Colaco Dias' and Valmiki Faleiro's posts on General Ramalho Eanes and Dayanand Bandodkar respectively, make for interesting reading and to fertile minds, interesting speculation. What if there was no obstinate Salazar at Portugal's helm in the late 50s constantly refusing to let Goa become independent of both Portugal and India. What if Nehru had stuck to his own own judgment and wisdom and not succumbed to that of his prodigy Krishna Menon. In other words, what would be the situation today if Goa were to follow it's own path from the history of the time, independent of Lisbon and Delhi instead of being liberated (or annexed, depending on one's view) by India in 1961. Imagine a Goan Elite of both Hindus and Christians governing Goa. They would be primarily a land-owning lot. They would be strong administrators and thinkers. There would be no law and order problem. There would be good governance. There might even have been good economic practice and foresight making Goa financially independent whether by controlled exploitation of it's natural beauty through international tourism or by any other means. Education might have been promoted to an extent never seen during Portuguese rule. But could such an island of bliss have survived in a sea of Indian poverty, nationalism, confusion and a type of democracy not seen anywhere else in the world? The Goan governing elite would have been out of touch with the aspirations of the common Goan people. They would have been too bound by European thinking and way of life that would not be shared by the vast majority. They would have an army system left over by the Portuguese that would without Portuguese support, be fit only for police duties. They would have to run an economy that would be dependent on one or two resources and therefore be constantly dependent on Indian or world support. In other words a Goa that would not be economically viable. The country of Goa would have to depend on India both morally and economically. It would become literally, the whipping boy of Maharashtra whenever there was a problem in that State. That would lead it to the willing support of Pakistan with whom the Portuguese traditionally had good ties and that would have exacerbated the existing problems. The United States may have toyed with it for leverage but if it came to the crunch, would hand it over to India in a heartbeat. Can anybody paint a different scenario?
[Goanet] Goa news for February 26, 2007
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Material costs squeeze Arcelor Mittal's profit (Miami Herald) Arcelor and Mittal Steel, which have agreed on a deal to form the world's largest steel maker, said Wednesday their combined earnings fell 3.5 percent in 2006 because of a price squeeze from higher raw material costs but said this year will be better. http://origin.thestate.com/mld/miamiherald/business/16752837.htm?source=rsschannel=miamiherald_business *** Union to challenge Maryland steel mill sale (The Plain Dealer) Hagerstown, Md.- The United Steelworkers threatened Wednesday to try to block a sale of the Sparrows Point steel mill near Baltimore unless the union is satisfied that the federally ordered divestment is in its workers' best interest. http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business/1172147549265120.xmlcoll=2 *** Gui Boratto Delivers Chromophobia on Kompakt, Tours (Pitchfork) The capital letter-mongers at Kompakt have done it again! On February 26, the German techno powerhouse releases the excellent debut full length from 33-year-old, São Paulo, Brazil-based producer and electronic artiste Gui Boratto . http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/41359/Gui_Boratto_Delivers_Chromophobia_on_Kompak *** The Netherlands: Steel Earnings Decline (New York Times) Arcelor and Mittal Steel, which have agreed on a deal to form the world?s largest steel maker, said their combined earnings fell 3.5 percent, to $7.97 billion, in 2006 because of higher raw material costs. The companies also said they had $4.5 billion to $5 billion available for acquisitions this year, and confirmed that they were examining the financial records of an Indian steel maker, Sesa ... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/22/business/worldbusiness/22fobriefs-STEELEARNING_BRF.html *** Oracle beefs up presence in India (Electronic Engineering Times Asia) Oracle has completed the first phase of expansion into 17 of India's high-growth cities. This brings Oracle's total footprint in India to 23 cities. http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800454078_499495_52ac84df20070223.HTM?from=RSS *** Arcelor Mittal 2006 profit falls 3.5% on higher tax (International Herald Tribune) The company formed last year in the largest-ever takeover in the steel industry predicted a better 2007. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/21/bloomberg/bxsteel.php *** Hockey Today - Feb. 23 (Covers.com) SCOREBOARD Friday, Feb. 23 Boston at Tampa Bay (8 p.m. EST). The Bruins are trying to make a late playoff push with five wins in their last six games. STARS Thursday - Glen Wesley , Hurricanes, scored a short-handed goa... http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=131279 *** Before You Go to India (About.com) India has long been one of Asia's leading tourist destinations. There is so much to see and do. From the beaches of Goa to the snow capped mountains of Ladakh, India offers extreme experiences. Monuments like the Taj Mahal and Humayun's Tomb leave deep impressions on those who visit the country. http://goasia.about.com/od/india/bb/bygtindia.htm *** [GOAA] Greek Orthodox Archdiocese E-Bulletin February 23, 2007 (Worldwide Faith News) This is the weekly edition of the GOA E-Bulletin. For more information just click on the links below to go to the topics of interest to you.If the link does not work from your email, copy the link and paste it into the address bar of your web browser.RESOURCES FOR GREAT LENT: This special web site will provide you with information, readings, hymns, articles, and much more on each of the ... http://www.wfn.org/2007/02/msg00245.html *** Top 10 offbeat movie locales (MSNBC) Sometimes it's not the director, or the editing, or even the actors that make a movie #148; it's the scenery. If you've ever been so inspired by a movie's landscapes that you wanted to book your trip right there and then, you know exactly what we mean. And while there are places that are synonymous with the big screen (New York and Paris come to mind) we've focused on off-the-beaten-path locales ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17265933/ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers(Eugene Correia)
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excuse me for the errors. The off-the-maturity was supposed to be off-the-cuff remark. The word maturity possibly cropped in as I wanted to write that Nehru felt Goans (by which I meant those who lead the Goans in the freedom movement) lacked political maturity to decide what they wanted. Thanks for bringing it up, as I wanted to clarify it because delayed because of lack of time. Heard what? Heard that Nehur had said the words. I heard from many Goan fighters in Mumbai, including my relatives, that Nehru was ill-at-ease with some diehard freedom fighters who wanted Nehru to send in the army much before it actually happened. IT is the remark which Nehru is supposed to have made, but not in the way it has been worded. Having read Prof. Aloysius Soares's autobiography I don't remember having coming across Nehru's remarks. Unfortunately, I never had a chance to ask the good professor about it. There is no foolproof that Nehru said the words attributed to him. So not much importance was given to the remark, even it was ever made. Hence, it was considered a rumour and used by those who were against the nationalist movement to show how Nehru was disrespectful of Goans. There were few few Goans in the freedom movement who had access to Nehru. Eugene --- Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eugene Correia noted the following on GoaNet: 1: Nehru,...is supposed to have felt frustrated at the dilly-dallying of Goan freedom fighters and also because of their in-fighting, as you know there were many groups espousing the cause of Goa's freedom. 2: Nehru wanted an universal agreement on the course of action from the groups, which were divided on how Goa should be freed. 3: He is said to have made THIS öff-the-maturity when it came to dealing with Goa's freedom. 4: Nehru himself was caught between his philosophy of non-alingment and no use of force and the pressure to liberate Goa because of the forthcoming elections. Congress was to benefit largely from such an action, which would divert the attention of the nation from other domestic crisis. 5: Lino Leitao, as I know, was involved in the freedom movement and possibly heard over the grapevine. 6: IT was not a putdown of Goans as Nehru had high respects for some Goans such as Frank Moraes, his biographer and a renowned journalist, and Cardinal Gracias, to mention but two. jc's comment Interesting points from Eugene Correia: re1: speaks for itself. re2: NEHRU wanted? ! (just like someone saying that amche modern day Jorge or Antonio wanted ) re3: I don't know what off-the-maturity means but what is Eugene referring to when he writes THIS ? re4: speaks for itself re5: Heard WHAT, Eugene? re6: What does IT stand for, Eugene? BTW: I wonder whether Eugene has seen and read the Bulletin issued in February 1955 under the patronage of Cardinal Gracias. It ''THIS', WHAT' and 'IT' (in re3, re5 re6 above respectively) stand for the 'Goans are cooks and butlers' comment, it looks pretty much that Roland needs to pack his bags to Carmo's place for a month's labour as K4's 'Cuzner ani Botler' Unless Roland (his recent email from an anonymous friend notwithstanding) is ducking his part of the bargain, again? brilliant!! jc It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: [Goanet] Nehru, Goans, Cooks, Butlers
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roland-- The same broken record that referred to Goans as bottler ani cuziners. I merely sought to point out that ahyas were missing from that record. You might have been living in a vacuum if you did not hear the term widely used in India after the Goan liberation! I trust you found Paulo Colaco Dias' earlier contribution to this debate illuminating - Original Message - From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Nehru, Goans, Cooks, Butlers http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris, Would you please elaborate which record you are referring to? Cheers Roland. On 2/24/07, Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nehru's quote is incompletely stated. For the record he referred to Goans (derisively, I believe) as Ayas, butlers and cooks -- ABCs.
Re: [Goanet] Climate Change and Education
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am in the process of screening through more than 3000 email - a consequence of my long stay in Goa so I enter into this argument late. The discussion on education is interesting and highly pertinent and just when I thought I could side with one argument another came up! Yes our education unfortunately does not impart written and spoken skills especially for kids whose parents are not educated. So many young people shy from asking questions, reading or discussing problems like global warming, HIV etc. Someone pointed out that South Goa kids prefer to go overseas, make a fast buck and come back and that's true too and we have to address that. Is it that teachers don't excite and challenge kids? In the US when we make outreach activities for kids we focus on the question: WHY do they care? e.g. Why do kids care if there are different types of clouds? But when I left Goa I did not know how to make my presentations attractive, slip a few jokes to make my talk more fun and get the audience excited in my work and I still find it a challenge. So the teachers too have to get some exposure and training. Perhaps a big curriculum bogs them? Buoyed by the enthusiasm from students, academics in fields totally unrelated to climate, priests and others at Basilio Monteiro's wonderful conference (more on that in another email) Joaquim took his global warming talk to many Goan colleges and the kids just loved it. Incidentally his talk covers a lot more than Al Gore's movie and dwells on natural events such as those mentioned by Gabriel Figueiredo. And he talked about the consequences of the Goa Regional Plan too!!! But I think its Joaquim and I who were more impressed with the kids who we met at these small colleges - Carmel's, Dhempe's and Xavier's. In small and familiar settings they asked a ton of questions, took copies of the presentation and talked of their own projects. The latter were really impressive - in fact Carmels publishes a peer reviewed journal with research articles from science to literature. But I think we lack outreach activities that can take information researched or learned into larger settings. Can these kids take their projects to schools perhaps? Can they give presentations and excite and enthuse others? Will their already packed schedules allow them to do so or could it be part of their curriculum? At the same conference Prof. Junjunwala lamented the lack of good teachers and the recent abundance of well paid jobs in multinationals doesn't help. Can we do something like 'Teachers for America'? We have a huge populace of retired academics, researchers etc. Could we pay them to go back and teach in schools? And finally we need more teachers on his forum. Helga Ever since I set foot in the UK a few months ago, I have been amazed by the general level of awareness people here have about Global Warming and Climate change.
Re: [Goanet] Grenville Pinto: Goan violinist from Toronto
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mercy-- Grenville is a class act. If he is a Goan (his bio does not state he is) we have reason to be proud and should be celebrating his amazing talent. We could show our appreciation and support by buying his CDs... Rgds Chris - Original Message - From: Mercy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet goanet@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Grenville Pinto: Goan violinist from Toronto * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market 2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors Great Investment - Winter Getaway Asking Canadian $ 31,500/- or Indian Rs 10 lakhs Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mervyn, Thank you very much for sharing Grenville Pinto's violin recordings with us. My family and I enjoyed his renditions. Mercy Fernandes Dallas, TX
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Catholic Schools
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gilbert I'd like to confine myself to your quote saying--- Secret of Success: Inspiration 1%; Perspiration 99%. This quote has been doing the rounds for a pretty long time and I want to suggest that, it is a bit like the familiar lightweight, homespun, commonsense presentations on this site. If you have any research evidence whatsoever to support the quote, I would be delighted to hear of it please. Instead, I should like to suggest that what is indeed known, through much systematic study/research, about differentials in school/college achievement across all societies, depends on, whether there is an even playing field or not for those engaged in the educational enterprise. I will focus largely on those socially and economically disadvantaged in a moment, but want to stress that not all get an equal chance as is assumed by your quote with the onus on individual effort. If for a moment, we confine ourselves to gender, the world over, girls/women have been disadvantaged largely by patriarchal views that girls get married, raise families, run a home primarily and therefore do not need much of an education. The supposed Indian expression of this view to this day is that, to educate girls is to water somebody else's garden and this encapsulates the key point I am making here. Many a girl has not had an opportunity to have 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration educationally. They have had 0% educational opportunity especially in traditional societies while the males have tended to receive the educational investment instead. Thankfully, there is growing awareness, especially among enlightened leaders, in some developing countries that it is the education of girls/women that is the key to enhancing family and economic development. The sociological evidence questioning your quote indicates that scholastic achievement is strongly linked to one's socio-economic class/status. Those who are better off socio-economically, are able to help their offspring in many ways and particularly, materially, aspirationally, in terms of accrued knowledge, and through many networks. Those in lower socio-economic groups, even with free state provided education, (at least at the primary level), do not have the advantages as above and this is exacerbated further by barriers like caste in India where many millions are illiterate. But of course, illiteracy is also to be found in the USA, the richest nation on earth and also, among other countries, like the relatively well-off European Union countries. Historically, those in the higher echelons of society have been 'threatened' by those in lower positions aspiring for an education for many reasons including fear that an educated class of people will be less manageable and also less available for unskilled labour needs. Another point is that, the better-off socio-economically, do not quite face the urgency of getting their children to go out and earn money as soon as possible to contribute to family income. The better-off families can envisage delayed gratification and a long term horizon towards advanced occupations/professions. For them, a college/university education is a perfectly realistic aspiration while the poor child might at best ask what does college mean? In general, intellect is to be found equally distributed across all groups in any society. There are bright and not so bright people in terms of gaining access to education. However, those in better-off families get a 'leg-up' and invariably take up educational places in say higher education, disproportionately greater than they would fairly deserve because of their grey matter. This is true in all countries. Your quote is suggestive of a level playing field that, in truth is simply not available to all across the world including Goa. Also, by projecting your line, you are misleading people, perhaps unintentionally and unwittingly that, the fault lies primarily or wholly in individuals, not working hard enough, rather than in structural inequalities in most societies. Of course, one will always find examples of poor people who have made it educationally and professionally to advanced levels but the hard evidence is that these are exceptions to the rule even in the most democratic of societies. These are just some quick thoughts and reflections arising from your post. In turn, your observations to this response would be very welcome. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: Gilbert Lawrence
Re: [Goanet] Cooks and Butlers
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Listers, Goan cooks and house-keepers/governesses have become a rear breed here in Karachi too. The local newspaper of the of the archdiocese of Karachi, 'The Christian Voice' often has ads for them by wealthy Muslims. Also Goan school teachers are also sought after but most have left the profession for more lucrative fields or left the country for good. Regards, Michael Ali Karachi, Pakistan
[Goanet] Blog... on books
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check this blog dealing with books and such issues... http://www.dogearsetc.com/wp02/ FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/
[Goanet] The Last King of Scotland - Fact or Fiction
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fact or fiction *(read the full story for the indirect Goan connection)* BY MICHELLE THERIAULT The Statesman Journal February 22, 2007 The Last King of Scotland is up for several Oscars -- including best actor for Forest Whitaker's portrayal of Idi Amin -- and the charismatic, brutal former ruler of Uganda who died in 2003 is in the news again. The movie is based on the 1998 novel by Giles Foden, which was named for one of the many grandiose titles Amin bestowed upon himself. But neither the book nor the film come close to illuminating the horror of life in Uganda under Amin's reign, a Keizer couple said. My problem is that people who read the book or see the film may not be able to separate fact from fiction, said Jean Sequeira, who, with her husband, Jack, served as a missionary for the Seventh-Day Adventist Church in the countryside near Kampala, Uganda, from 1965 to 1972. Full story at http://159.54.226.83/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070222/LIFE/702220302/1059. ^^ Fred Menezes http://blowthelidoff.blogspot.com ^^ ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Educational system
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Selma, Your suggestion(sarcastic) that Goan youth should should stay in Goa serving cocktails and mocktails to lager louts is precisely the low aiming blinkered mentality that ails most Goans(especially the coastal Catholic community).Goa has four engineering colleges, a medical college, two law colleges and a management insitute. Yet you can't seem to see a Goan youth in any other role other than serving lager, in Goa or abroad. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why the Goans from the coast(predominantly Catholics) are reaping the least benefit of Goa's tourism boom or the Indian economic boom. If you can't think beyond being a waiter or tourist taxi driver then there is no point complaining that others now own all the restaurants, hotels, travel agenicies and shops. It is equally pointless to blame the education system when you can't find a job with a pass class non-professional degree. Open your eyes to the opportunities available to most motivated young Goans today, tourism included. Sunith Selma writes: It is those hapless fellows that make their way to the Gulf or work onboard ships. Instead, they should stay in Goa serving cocktails andmocktails to lager louts, so that their children will be inspired er motivated to do better in school.
Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cashew and Coconut
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The concept of global giants pillaging a country is a myth. Global giants like Enron and several others do not even exist any more. -snip- Sorry for getting carried away. Mario, Stay away from the PC when you are with your cashew/coconut. Wait a minute! Get on the PC everytime you attack the cashew/coconut. You are truly priceless. Mervyn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Student drop-out rates and education in Goan schools
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Drop-out rates in Goa at the primary school level or at the transition between primary and secondary schools, are high, but not as high as in the rest of India. The percentage of children aged 6 14 that are not attending school, either because of non-enrollment or drop-out, in rural Goa is 0.3 compared to the national average of 6.6. This is according to the first Annual Status of Education Report conducted in 2005. There is no simplistic singular reason for dropping out of school. The Konkani as a medium of instruction mandated by the Goa government, and the resulting difficult transition, is certainly one reason, but not the only reason, nor the principal reason. In fact, historically most Goan Hindu students who have passed SSC or secured college degrees have attended Marathi medium primary schools and switched to English only in the 5th standard. National surveys have shown that there are many reasons for the high drop-out rate in schools. Some of the important ones are: 1. Unschooled parents, especially mothers who do not attach much value to education or cannot help their children cope with scholastic difficulties. 2. Child labor necessitated by poverty. 3. Ancient prejudices against educating girls, requiring them to do household work. 4. Requiring boys to help their fathers in farming and other familial trades. 5. Poor teacher to student ratio in the classroom. On measures of literacy national surveys have shown that problems with basic arithmetic are more severe than with language skills. In rural Goa the percentage of children in the 5th standard that cannot read at level-2 proficiency is 32, while the percentage that cannot subtract and divide is 55. The national averages for these measures are again worse than in Goa. They are 40 and 57, respectively. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Half-pipe dreams come true in Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They beat the heat over 90oC in the daytime by skating after sundown. Wow! I didn't know that Goa's temperatures were closing to boiling point of water! Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] India to be blamed (Was: Goans - Cooks .......)
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is only on Goanet that we glean such highly creative insights. Not only is India responsible for the mess in Goa after 1961, but now also for the mess in Iraq. We are fortunate that at least the reality of the mess is recognized, and someone is being blamed for it, rather than being honored. Isn't it nice that the buck stops somewhere on earth? Cheers, Santosh --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, I blame India and other countries like it for the mess in Iraq. They sat on the sidelines and watched impotently from 1991 on, when Saddam was violating 17 UN Security Council resolutions to disclose an accounting of his WMDs, and massacring hundreds of thousands of his own citizens in order to preserve his power.
[Goanet] Dont Tell Us How Americans Eat! We are in US and We know Better Than You Visitor
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ana Maria, I do not know which ghetto in America you have been to and what kinds of Americans you tried to impress upon with your Kuler-Kanto, Aao Portuguese, Podhi and Patrade. The fact is I am still in the USA and have been here for nearly 25 years and have moved around with highly educated, highly accomplished and well-placed Amrericans and I still maintain that most Americans (if not all) prefer the most efficient way of having their meals i.e. with their fork in the right hand and switching it to the left when using the knife ! Please do not make a public display of your ignorance of American table-manners. Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:51:26 + From: Ana Maria Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Aao portuguese To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Noone eats using the fork in the right hand unless he is left handed. I have been to states and eaten with the americans. Even when laying the table you keep the knife in the right side fork in the left side and the spoon in the front side. While eating the knife is held in the right hand and the fork in the left hand for you need to cut the meat specially the stew or roasted meat. Once that is over and rice is to be eaten you have to place the knife on the front side and take the spoon in the right hand. In the past when we used to sit at the table the fish dish was served first. The table though was laid one did not take it unless being served by the servants. Once the fish dish was over meat was served and finally the pulao. I think rice and curry is eaten only in India and some few bording places and is never served at the table else where... We do not follow the dress code in Goa. In Uk the dress code for evening parties or weddings is black pant and white suit coat with a bow. In the morning the coat is black with a tie. But surprising when the same people from UK, America or other european countries knowing fully well what they dress in their countries were T shirts when they attend weddings in Goa as if Goans do not have respect here. Ann Marie Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Aao portuguese
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ana Maria Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noone eats using the fork in the right hand unless he is left handed. Ann Marie Fernandes, Are you by any chance related to Mario? Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Months Mind.
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Months Mind. There will be a Requiem Mass for the soul of late Mrs. Lourdes F. Fernandes, age 73, on Wednesday 28th of this month at 7.00 A.M. at St. Paul's Parish Church, Dadar, offered by her loving daughters Savia and Veronica. The late Mrs. Lourdes is the beloved wife of late Francis X. Fernandes. Originally from Divar Goa but a permanent resident of Bombay where she expired last month. Friends and relatives kindly accept this as the only intimation. A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Dayanand Narvekar's fantasies
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rajan, You're sexuality-suffused argument lacks in logic to me. To be fair, all the politicians of Goa have a grandios vision (while delivering little in terms of actuals). The fault is with us, because we have not been holding them accountable with consistency. If we embark on campaigns, we spare our favourites while lashing out selectively. Dear Frederick, I live in a world of illogic and inconsistency, hence the severe deficiency in logic consistency that Goan journos like you, weaned as you all are in the rigours of Gödelian logic, see in what I post. Furthermore, as a supporter of Manohar Parrikar, it is not only a logic deficiency I suffer from. I am, ipso facto, communal, fascist, a Ciristao and Musalman hater, and a Nazi sympathiser. Why, I may even be a mole planted on Goanet by Manohar P to influence voters on Goanet and improve BJP's chances in the upcoming election. It falls to courageous journos like yourself to supply wisdom and balance in reportage, to fearlessly expose the likes of moi and to unmask the ulterior agenda we may sneak into the portals of this august list. Warm regards, r Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.
[Goanet] Goa and the Democratic Experiment
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roland, Reading your had-it -been scenario and wishful end for Goa.i look back at India`s acquistivenness ( note how easily they incorporated the sovereign nation of Sikkimwho now are are a part of India )and the close ties of some of our own goan hindus with kith and kin in Maharashtra ( why was there so much support from many of our own goans within Goa when the zalaas pahijee folk want to include Goa in that state ?)..i`m afraid your further observations in this piece show that goa would never survive as a seperate Monaco-like entity surrounded by rapacious India.
Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers(Eugene Correia) 2
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact: Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 25/02/07, Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1: Heard that Nehru had said the words. I heard from many Goan fighters in Mumbai, including my relatives, .. 2: It is the remark which Nehru is supposed to have made, but not in the way it has been worded. 3: There is no foolproof that Nehru said the words attributed to him. jc's response: Thank You Eugene Correia. If one fast-forwards to present times, we have all kinds of racist (et al) statements made by people in position and denied, only to be 'caught on tape'. The 1950s afford us no such luxury. We have to hear what we are being told about those times, and decipher (if we wish) on the balance of probabilities. Impressions that we as individuals develop largely depend upon our own experiences and upon what we read and hear. What was (from your understanding) Nehru's prior experience and information about Goa and Goans? What could it have been? What role did Goans play in the social scene in British India and in the UK (in Nehru's time). You lived in Bombay (like I lived in Poona). What was the sum total of what nonGoans thought of Goans - when you lived there? Did they believe that Goans were mainly Hindu and had a good number of intellectuals within their fold? Is that the impression you got when you spoke to your nonGoan colleagues and co-workers?. What exactly might have been the basis/incentive for Nehru to think of Goans as other than cooks and butlers ? I ask: If there was a choice between believing your family members (who were Freedom Fighters) and a politician, Who would you, on the balance of probabilities, believe? Did Nehru tell the truth about Dadra Nagar Haveli? Was he totally honest about Subhas Chandra Bose? I am not sure. I am just asking. And Yes, I have learnt to understand that anything is possible when it comes to politicians. They ALL (as far as I can decipher) profess to be philantrophists and humanitarians. What they practice is altogether different. Mahatma Gandhi fortunately - was not a politician sincerely jc BTW: Have you any knowledge of any declaration (drawn up by Cardinal Gracias) meant to be signed by Bombay Goans ...which apparently was eventually scrapped as it allegedly got a very cold reception from the Goans? One of these days, I will try read Leo Lawrence's book on Nehru and Goa, and see if there is any reference to Cardinal Gracias. Have you read that book, What have you heard about Leo's credibility, Is he trustworthy? Once again, I ask because I do not know.
