Re: [Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
Actually Natekar, you need not confine yourself to merely talking about all your undermentioned grievances. You can actually send in the Indian Armed Forces to bomb the hell out of Pakistan and Bangladesh who seem responsible for all that, either directly or indirectly. Next, you can send the Forces off to do the same to Afghanistan, Iran, and the Islamic Central Asian republics (from where the Moghuls came) and then to Britain and Portugal to do likewise. Count until they reach a 100 million too. Why stop at that? Now that you are on a roll, you can ethnically cleanse the entire Muslim and Christian communities in India itself. For good measure you can wipe off the Sikhs so that Khalistan never comes up again and just to be nice and detailed, you can erase the Parsis and the Jains since they hold a goodly size of the economic cake and the Baha'is who believe in everybody's Gods and have none of their own. Rather than rest, you can then start off on the tribals, Dalits and other lower castes of the Hindus. There are lots of them and that should take some time. Progress to the Yadavs and other low caste sympathisers. After you do all that, then sit and make further plans to take India to the 21st century and making it a Gobal Power. Roland. Roland Francis 416-453-3371 On 10/16/07, vinay natekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To sum up: -Talking about and exposing ethnic cleansing and massacre of Hindus in Kashmir is communal. -Talking about Mumbai, Varanasi, Delhi Jehadi terrorist bomb blasts is communal. -Talking about the genocide of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh is communal. -Talking about greatest genocide on earth of more than 100 million Hindus during barbaric Muslim moghul, British and Portuguese rule in India is communal. Vinay Natekar
Re: [Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
--- vinay natekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christians and Muslims all over the world are enemies of one another, but in secular India alone they are always found on the same side against their common enemy : Hinduism. -Talking about greatest genocide on earth of more than 100 million Hindus during barbaric Muslim moghul, British and Portuguese rule in India is communal. Vinay Natekar -- Inorder to form a nation, one must suffer some historical amnesia. By all means let us talk about atrocities committed against all and any section of humanity, but let us now chronicle some aspects of it and view it through the prism of history. Not nurse them like they happened yesterday. Who are we holding responsible for the British, the Portuguese, and the Moguls? Certainly the hapless souls who were converted and whose descendants today are Christians and Muslims, had no part to play in these atrocities. Are we holding them responsible and accountable? Let's not deny that terrorism exists in all its malfeasance and porous that it is, it is infecting India. But this is a law and order problem, one that needs police vigilance and political action. Let us also not deny that Indian secularism has been one of appeasement, which is why so much religion seeps into public life, where it has no place. Let's ensure that Indian polity develops a spine. Let's not deny that this pandering to minorities has actually left minorities like Muslims disadvantaged rather then put then at an advantage. Large sections of Muslims are impoverished and disenfranchised but this is a social problem and they should be assisted by the State and every fellow Indian citizen rather than victimised for it. The problem is not that you want to talk about these issues. The problem is that you are making it a us v/s them issue. Who is a Hindu, a Muslim, a Christian in India? When you make it a us v/s them issue, you are setting the grounds for a civil war and just ask the Bosnians and Serbs, or the Sunnis and Shias how that turned out. selma Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [Goanet] Staying in Bombay
Thank you Roland for this usufull idea to stay in Bombay.I´ll take advantege in next trip. Aureo Mendes Spain - Mensaje original - De: Roland Francis For those of you who would need to stay in Bombay for a short while and have no wish to stay with relatives or splurge on accommodation that you would use merely for sleeping at nights, I would recommend St. Bridget's Enclave in Vakola, a eastern suburb of Bombay just off the highway on the other side of the tracks of Santacruz.
Re: [Goanet] Dubai soccer
Well said Eugene!! Even the referee threw the organizer out of the ground...errrstadium!! On 10/5/07, Eugene Correia wrote: As for Alaric's case, I must say that I was lied to by the committee. I checked with the Goa Velha Al Zuari team and found out that the manager was not invited for the meeting of team managers called to discuss the issue.
Re: [Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
From: vinay natekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition It is very strange that no Muslim have objected to the FACT Photo Exhibition. Do you seriously think they are enjoying the way they are being painted as the enemy? That is the success of the Hindutvavadis -- the people they are hounding are often too scared to raise their heads above the trenches and protest, for fear of getting their heads shot off for their pains. Go visit Gujarat, you can see the situation at its starkest there, in the self-proclaimed laboratory of Hindutva, where the fear among the minorities is palpable, and they are forced to swallow their hurt and pain for fear of having worse miseries visited upon them. Then why the Christians and phony secularists are so much concerned about ? But injustice must be protested, or it reigns unchallenged, and grows in strength. That's where others -- however you define them -- come in. Christians and Muslims all over the world are enemies of one another, but in secular India alone they are always found on the same side against their common enemy : Hinduism. You appear to have been reading Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilizations, one of George Bush's favourite bedtime fairy tales. Let me put in a straight forward words to you , Hindus are not going to be intimidated by your illusionary malady of bias propaganda which is appealing and exhilarating fabrication of facts. Your purple prose is running away with you :-) And now you arrogate to yourself the role of spokesperson of all Hindus, just like the Sangh Parivar does. But much to its chagrin, it has not succeeded. The vast Hindu majority (like the majority of people from all religions) is too balanced and against hate and violence to fall easy prey to such propaganda. You have the right to express your opinions Thank you, sir, that is very kind of you! but you can not deny the truth and facts to be exposed. Expose away, though what gets exposed in the process is there for all to see. In west, historically secularism stood for rationalism, universalism, humanism . In India today secularism is united front of all anti hindu ideologists. In the context of minority appeasement it has resulted unfortunate perversion of India?s political parlance. The most spectacular thing about the fraudulent liberals and anti hindu secular brigade that they will never take up the cause of the organized genocide of Kashmiri Pandits in Kashmir. Do you seriously think that repeating yourself over and over again like a stuck record will make people believe you? This is getting tiresome, but okay, here goes. Will Teesta Setalvad, the editor of Communalism Combat, serve as an example of the kind of people you describe as 'psuedo-secular'? I rather think she will do, given the vitriolic invective against her on this very forum by various apologists of Hindutva. Well, Communalism Combat has regularly focused on the plight of Kashmiri Pandits. See, for example, the article at http://sabrang.com/cc/comold/sep00/mino.htm. The other examples are too numerous to mention, just go to sabrang.com, and search the 'Communalism Combat' archives for 'Kashmir' and see for yourself. Another of the favourite themes of the FACT-wallahs and their ilk is Hindus in Bangladesh (Francois Gautier has done another exhibition on this theme). Well, Communalism Combat regularly features this issue. See, for example, http://sabrang.com/cc/archive/2004/sep04/cover.html, and http://sabrang.com/cc/archive/2001/dec01/cover.htm. Again, there are many more examples -- just type 'Bangladesh' in the search and see for yourself. Of course, where Teesta Setalvad fails, from your point of view, is to use these cases to whip up passions against innocent Muslims who have nothing to do with all this. That is the speciality of FACT, the HJS and the Sangh Parivar in general. Teesta Setalvad actually uses these cases (as she does the violence against minorities in India) to argue against communalism and spread a message of peace and tolerance. And so she and her ilk are damned in your eyes. Criticizing anything anti ?Hindu activities are painted as communal and tagged as pro Sangh Parivar. To sum up: -Talking about and exposing ethnic cleansing and massacre of Hindus in Kashmir is communal. -Talking about Mumbai, Varanasi, Delhi Jehadi terrorist bomb blasts is communal. -Talking about the genocide of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh is communal. Need I go on? Again, search the archives of Communalism Combat for all these issues and see for yourself. Okay, you don't like this example? Go to pluralindia.com, which hosts the articles of another of the targets of your ire, Ram Puniyani. Search for these issues and see for yourself. Search the writings and work of any of the people you describe as 'psuedo-secular' and you will see that they have roundly condemned all this. Yes, secularists do state that fascist
Re: [Goanet] Velanka Alemao should back Manohar Parrikar and BJP !
Dear Carmo Cruz The following is written with no malice. as you describe yourself (ex Fola, Baga, Veilm, AVC) - the main word being EX - I do not think those that have chosen to make their future or rather live their lives away from their motherland should suggest who or which party should rule the State. After all, those that have chosen to live in their motherland have all the right to choose who or which party should govern the place they live in- you on the other hand ought to get busy with the US elections coming up soon -- any suggestions or who or which party should rule the US - Your chosen place to live ?? just thought I'd make your article more interesting!! On 10/12/07, CARMO DCRUZ wrote: Hi Velanka, I am Dr Carmo D'Cruz (ex Fola, Baga, Velim, AVC now residing in Indian Harbour Beach, Florida). It was indeed heart-warming to know that you are interested in contesting the forthcoming poll in Goa. Goa will be head and shoulders above all other states in India if youngsters like you are in politics at such a young age.
Re: [Goanet] Is filter coffee drunk/sold in Goa?
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:30:59 +0530 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Is filter coffee drunk/sold in Goa? Was just wondering after having a cuppa at Caje's place yesterday, and he showed me the process of making it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_filter_coffee There's this little cafe in Panjim, on the right as you go from Azad Maidan towards National Theatre. The filter coffee there is quite tolerable and reasonably priced too (Rs 5), as it's a janata joint, perfect for disreputable (and broke) types like us. :-) -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
[Goanet] Random thoughts: wrt Goa politics and the players
Random Thoughts: Ministers of Government 1. Ministers of Government would probably manage the affairs of the public better IF they used the same transport, health facilities and airport lounges as the one their masters (general public) have to use. 2. It could be argued that they provide a Government Service - sure!. So they should be provided with a travel allowance and government quarters in the Government Servants colony. 3. They should be provided with police protection. So should their bosses (the public) 4. If, like all other government servants, they choose to use their own vehicle, they should be free to do so. 5. They should receive a 15% gratuity upon successful and satisfactory completion of their contract. Of Goa Suraj this and Goa Suraj that 6. Goans should be extra free to criticise Goa Suraj for not doing what they (the Goans) want them to do - but do not bother to assist with in any shape or form. Of Wilfred Mesquita - a Catholic candidate for BJP 7. Willie is a good man. He is also a good doctor. He is the second Dr. Willie who is wasting his medical skills by getting involved in politics. 8. Nothing surprising about Willie and the BJP - if one remembers that the BJP is actually a updated version of the MGP, and that Willie has a (long) history of being an MGP, No prizes here for understanding why Willie is now with the BJP. 9. BUT Willie is a good and decent man. If I was able to vote in the election (inconsequential as it is), I would vote for my good friend Willie Mesquita - even if He later was to take a politically 'principled' decision to rejoin the Congress fold IF (for instance), he was offered the post of Union Minister of State for Sports. 10. Life will go on undisturbed thereafter. Anacleto locks horns with Sardinha over buffalo fights and cruelty to animals 11. I am all for being kind and considerate toward animals - When will the politicians start being considerate towards the humans who live in Goa? jusht only asking jc
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (17OCT07)
With Churchill and Sardinha locking horns for the Congress nomination for the South Goa seat ... Goans say When there's so much of Bull fighting...'N' Bullshiting among the Cong Bulls There is no need to revive Bullfights Mr. Sardinha To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Information Required
Dear Vauradeamcho Ixtt, I am in need of addresses of Pilar Seminary and Rachol Seminary and would be grateful if you could let me have if you know the same, at your early convenience. I tried to look on the V.Ixtt and I could not locate. Thank you for your help. Joaquim Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/
[Goanet] oops ! Indian share market sees 9% slump.
Indian share market sees 9% slump Trading on India's main stock index, the Sensex, was suspended briefly on Wednesday, after the market slumped 9%. The fall came after the stock market regulator proposed urgent curbs on the flow of foreign funds into shares, in order to stop the market overheating. The Sensex sank to 17,544.15, after Tuesday's record high of 19,174.45, while the rupee also lost value. Trading resumed after an hour. India's finance minister said that there was no need for alarm. Some of the early losses were clawed back when trading resumed, with the Sensex down 6.1% at 17,799.69. 'Abundant investment' The regulator's recommendation relates to participatory notes - a form of investment used by hedge funds and other foreign investors who are not registered in India. Investor sentiment is likely to weaken considerably as an important source of potential inflows has likely been plugged Rajeev Malik, JP Morgan Analysts say the proposal may be aimed at countering a surge in foreign money that has caused Indian share prices to rise sharply - worrying some policy makers about its potential impact on the broader economy. Finance minister P Chidambaram said that foreign investment was still welcome and that a ban on the notes was not intended. But presently it is important to moderate capital flows, which are getting very copious and abundant, he said. Analysts at JP Morgan suggested that of the $17bn of foreign funds invested in India so far this year, about $10bn has been in participatory notes. Investor sentiment is likely to weaken considerably as an important source of potential inflows has likely been plugged, said Rajeev Malik, an economist at the firm. And Shitin Desai of DSP Merrill Lynch said that the market was reacting nervously to a proposed regulatory move. This is the first step towards tighter norms for overseas funds, which is healthy. India is seen by many investors as one of the safest havens among the emerging markets as investors try to tap into one of the world's best-performing economies. The rupee has risen more than 11% against the US dollar since the start of the year. It stood at 39.31 to the dollar at Tuesday's close, but had weakened to 39.90 early on Wednesday. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/business/7048271.stm Published: 2007/10/17 07:41:30 GMT (c) BBC MMVII -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Information Required
Mr. Joaquim here below is email address of IXTT. Ixtt Vauradeancho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sanny de Quepem - Kuwait xx --- Joaquim Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Vauradeamcho Ixtt, I am in need of addresses of Pilar Seminary and Rachol Seminary and would be grateful if you could let me have if you know the same, at your early convenience. I tried to look on the V.Ixtt and I could not locate. Thank you for your help. Joaquim Faria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] This is where religion becomes dangerous/to Albert
Hi Albert, The explanation given by selma might have been on a higher level for you to understand, (it was for me). The simple truth is, Why did god invent disease and immune system as well? Who discovered that immunity; is it written in the bible? Albert? Or, just pray and hope for the best, is that what you mean by immune system. ED -- God hasgiven us immune system to fight disease producing germs.we have destroyed the immune system by placing our children in the hands of doctors instead of placing them in the hands of Almighty God. - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.
Re: [Goanet] Should we take care of our parents, should we care about our children at all?
I am sure that Selma Edward do not mean to say that Charity does not begin at home, nor do they mean that families ought not to band together to help each other in times of need. The original story was that a mother was abandoned by her two sons when they left for another country, in search of work. They found it and basically forgot all about mother, even when they came back to Goa on a visit, they stayed only a very short while, leaving her alone, as a widow to cope on her own. Broken hearted poor in spirit as well as ready cash, she passed away eventually, but it was found that she saved some of the money, for her funeral. This was found in her hand when a neighbour came by saw her door ajar, went indoors found the body. The majority of us can do better with our lives, but the older one gets, the less of a memory we have. But we dont forget our children, in turn the children ought not to forget their parents. Ok so the boys thought, the old woman has a piece of land a field, a house to live in what more does she want? Maybe its true, she had all this but did she know how to convert this into real money, cash she could have used? But is this really about money? Or is it a wake up call to all of us to be a little kinder to our relatives, friends and neighbours? We can all provide ourselves with pensions, start saving in your 20's and you will be laughing all the way to the supermarket checkout, you can buy anything you want. But when you become a parent, of two or more children, try to work out how much each child costs in terms of cash, over a year, not including their private education if this is the way it goes and you will find the money you ought to have for yourself and partner has actually deteriorated by over 70%. Have your children and give them to the state to look after, save yourself all the worry of caring and nurturing your children, the sleepless nights, the worry when they develop asthma the trips to the hospital, thinking this is it, we will be coming back on our own this time. All the fuss and worry about looking clean and smart when going to school, providing lunch money, they are with you 24/7 and rely on you. Why bother? Let someone else take care of them. Welcome to the 21st century. Oh of course this is not the way forward for some people, but a good way out if you want to provide for your own old age, after all children that we create and the mother carries about with her for 9 agonising months (thanks to the changes in hormones over this period, its not as bad for her, but if dad had to do it, there would only be one-child families, believe me!). Good luck to all who care look after their children, perhaps we ought to take more time to teach them a bit more about caring for the less fortunate a bit more, and less about career chasing and putting off parenthood until their mid-30's and in their 40's. Charity begins and ought to grow, in the home, for parents, for children, for neighbours and friends.There are several hundred ashrams in India where enough children can be found abandoned due to parents dying of HIV / Aids, starvation or just not enough room for them anymore, we need a safety net for these people, not for the rest of the nation to consider dumping more onto the ashrams. Perhaps even take a child from these ashrams if you have the room, the money and the compassion to do this. selma wrote This is life in the urban, 21st century. Please don'tlook to God or the Church to sort out these verytangible problems. We as a society have to addressthem head-on. -- Parents should not look forward to be looked after by their children, that is the core issue. As Khalil Gibran (a philosopher once said): Children are NOT your children. ED. -
[Goanet] Beware the exhibition of hatred...
To my comment (In this thread, the point made by Mashall is valid only if the exhibition in question was organised by the BJP.), Marshall Mendonza writes: Sachin, you and I and everyone knows that the organisation holding the exhibition is from the sangh parivar stable which includes the BJP. I am sorry, but I do not know that this is a fact. And if Marshall has some proof on the subject, then please let me know. However, I do know for a fact that Vidyadhar Gadgil is a Marxists, in the way he signs off his messages. I am not much enamoured with the Communist ideology. But that does not mean that I should ignore what he says. Secondly, when the Sambhaji Brigade in Pune vandalised the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute due to some unsavoury remarks against Shivaji made by an author who claimed that he had the support of the Insitute, there were immediate accusations that this Brigade was part of the Sangh or Shiv Sena. Very soon it turned out that the Brigade is actually a political opponent of both. I know that Vidyadhar had posted a long note on why the Hindu Jangaruti Samiti is a Sangh Parivar organisation. But that was just a verbal allegations, without any basis. To my more important comment (Secondly, even if the BJP did not do anything, does it mean that the plight of the Kashmiri Pandits should be ignored? More than 300,000 have been living as refugees in their own land, since 1989.), Marshall writes: I do agree that the Kashmiri Pandits should be rehabilitated in their homeland. But the sangh parivar is not sincere about this. Please let me know what measures they have taken to rehabilitate them, other than use them for propaganda purpose. Even though I said that even if the BJP did not do anything, he wants to know from me what measures the Sangh has taken to rehabilitate them. And while he seeks from me about these measures, should he not ask so many others, who claim to be the champions in protecting the rights of the minorities, about what they have done? For example, Ram Punyani comes all over from Mumbai to talk about the plight of the Muslims. Why does he not talk about the Kashmiri Pandits? (Incidentally, being in Mumbai, I have read quite a few times the name of Ram Punyani, but never in context of the rehabilitation of the Pandits.) I do look forward to a focussed response from Marshall. Sachin Phadte. _ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-in
Re: [Goanet] Goan Origin
Para além dos dos documentos citados, acho que ajudaria se usasse a lingua portuguesa, a dos seus antepassados ea sua também. Sem vergonha da sua nacionalidade e das suas raízes. É que, sabe, se lhe roubarem a carteira,ou outra coisa qualquer, apenas perde a sua posse física. Mas ela não deixa de ser sua. Era bom, já que pretende provar a sua origem Goesa, pelo menos que se expressasse em Português. Cumprimentos João Botelho Gomes - Original Message - From: noronha To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goan Origin Thank you Ana Maria, I am appearing for the All India Exam (XAT) there is a certain advantage if you can show that you are of goan origin. I had asked for details from GIM and I received their reply only today: If you can get either of your grandparents birth certificates, those of your respective parent and then yours, it should be sufficient as proof of your Goan origin. All the best! This will help all the others who are in a dilemma about proving that they are of Goan origin! Thank you goanet for all the replies to my query - I do not particularly enjoy chourico, Feni or pickle made from dried parra fish - yes I am goan enough to enjoy good humor! Mariam
Re: [Goanet] O Tribunal do Santo Ofício da Inquisi ção de Portugal e em Goa
Obrigado Maria Silva. Áureo- Espanha - Mensaje original - De: maria silva Nos arquivos da USP encontrei este estudo de muito interesse: O Tribunal do Santo Ofício da Inquisição de Portugal
[Goanet] Membership Of Goa Suraj
Floriano, Is it allowed for disapora Goans especially those who are foriegn nationals to become members of the Goa Suraj and contribute to the fee for party membership? What about foreign nationals who are also Indian citizens. Is it necessary to prove that you are an Indian PIO or citizen before you can contribute and/or pay membership dues? If there are no such restrictions, there may be many Goans in the disapora who are willing to canvass memberships for you and become members of the party. At Rs 300 annually or less than CAD 10 a pop, it won't hurt our pockets and it might do your party much good. Roland. On 10/15/07, Floriano - Goa Suraj Party [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of our executive members came to me once and said. Floriano, we need money yaar. If we have money we can do a lot of things. So I push a paper and pen to him. What is this? he says. write down what you want to do I say. Write? he says. You are mad. With money we can do a thousand things to promote the party. Well Mr. I say. At the starting of the Party ,you had said that you will bring in 1000 life members. 1000 x 300 would be 30 (3 lacs). That is a lot of money. So far you have not brough in a single life member, remember? B/rgds floriano goasuraj
Re: [Goanet] Pedro Vaz' tiatr MALI wins first prize at Kala Academy Tiatr Competition 2007
Dear Goans, i have a little feeling, every year they are on top what have happen to Sta cruz are the pen stop writting or the Judged get a package under the table. you thinks the judged is wise? i thinks v have to find a wise man for next tiatr Competition Joe Uk will be fine for next Competition other wise in future d door will be Close if any political games moves?
[Goanet] Statement by Shri Eduardo Faleiro, Commissioner for NRI Affairs, at his press briefing (October 16, 2007)
STATEMENT BY SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO, COMMISSIONER FOR NRI AFFAIRS, AT HIS PRESS BRIEFING (OCTOBER 16, 2007) I shall be visiting the Gulf countries in the months of November and December next to interact with Goan emigrants and to meet officials of the local Government dealing with questions of emigration at the political and other senior levels. My tour to the different countries of the Gulf region is being organized by the Ministry of External Affairs and by our Embassies in those countries. I will be accompanied by the Chairman of the Overseas Employment Agency of Goa, Vice Admiral (retd.) John d' Silva and the Director for NRI Affairs, Shri U.D. Kamat. In the first leg of my visit to the Gulf region I shall visit Kuwait from November 7-9 and Doha (Qatar) from November 11-13. During my visit to Kuwait I shall meet the Minister of Social Welfare and Labour of the State of Kuwait, Sheikh Sabah Al-Khaled, hold discussions with Kuwaiti officials, meet the community organizations and other relevant organizations and discuss matters concerning attestation, documentation etc. with Al-Haqooq lawyers who manage the legal affairs of our Embassy in Kuwait. I will also attend the Goa Day celebrations organized by the Goan Welfare Society on November 9 and participate in a seminar arranged by the Society. My visit to Doha (Qatar) will be on November 11-13 and broadly on the lines of the visit to Kuwait. The visits to Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Muscat will be held by the end of November and in December next. . The Report of the Global Goans Convention (Gomant Vishwa Samelan) held last January has been released today. It will help the Government to frame appropriate policies for the welfare of non-resident Goans. The Report is available free of cost to all those who participated in the Convention or their authorized representatives. Copies of the Report will also be sent to our Embassies in countries with a significant Goan population. We have received several requests for participation and financial support to Goan Conventions being organized in different parts of the world. Last June, the Goan Community in Portugal held their Convention in Lisbon The Goan Diaspora from Goa into the world. I could not attend this Convention due to other preoccupations and at my request our Chief Secretary and the Director, NRI Affairs, represented the State Government and the Department of NRI Affairs on this occasion. A sum of 5000 Euros was granted by this Department as financial support to this Convention. This Department will also provide some financial support to the Conference Goan Diaspora-between the Home and the Host being held on December 15 in New Delhi by Goenkarancho Ekvot, an organization of the Goan community in the capital. Several NRG organizations across the world wish to hold Conventions of the Goan community and seek our support. Regarding such Conventions abroad it has been decided that this Department will finance one such Convention per year tentatively to the extent of Rs. 3 lakh subject to the following: 1. The Annual Convention should be held by rotation in different continents and in a country where there is a significant population of NRGs; 2. The local organization should hold the Convention at a time when maximum attendance can be obtained in that country; 3. The organization should be recommended by our Embassy or High Commission in the respective country; and 4. The programme of the Convention should be drawn in consultation with this Office. In view of our decision to support one NRG Convention (Gomant Vishwa Samelan) every year abroad, we may not hold such a Convention in Goa in future. It is felt that such a Convention in Goa can be organized only at the time of Christmas and the New Year, a time of family get togethers and a pletora of other social and cultural activities, and this makes it difficult for our NRGs to attend the Convention in large numbers. . During my visit to New Delhi last month I requested Shri Vyalar Ravi, Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs, to invite Goan cultural troupes to perform in Goa and elsewhere in the country. I mentioned to him the group Ekvott based in Portugal which is of a high quality. The Minister agreed. In case Ekvot or other Goan troupes are interested in visiting India they should indicate their interest to us at the earliest so that we may finalize their tour in consultation with MOIA. (ends)
[Goanet] Wendell Rodricks collection reflects beauty of Goa beaches
Wendell Rodricks collection reflects beauty of Goa beaches October 17, 2007 Fit for the tranquil beaches around the world, 'Wendell Rodricks' Goa Spa collection for Spring/Summer 2008 at Lakme Fashion Week reflected the beauty of the designer's home state. The all-white unstructured men's and women's line was in typical Wendell style - flowing fabrics, loose shapes, asymmetric cuts, innovative construction, fine detailing and a comfort that will put the wearer at complete ease. More at: http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/company-news/lakme/newsdetails.aspx?ne ws_id=42706 ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Poor maintenance may cause Goa lose shootings: Filmmakers
Poor maintenance may cause Goa lose shootings: Filmmakers Panaji (PTI): Increasing loss of greenery from Goa, demolition of old structures and shabby beaches have worried local filmmakers and heritage activists who fear that the state may not remain a favourite film shooting destination. Goa is preferred for its natural beauty and beaches. But in the days to come, if we lose our greenery, we may lose distinction of being favourite film shooting destination, national award winning film producer from Goa Rajendra Talak told PTI. Talak said Goa has been famous with filmmakers since late 70s. On an average, 20 to 30 big films shoot their sequences here. But, it has never developed as an exclusive shooting place. The film is shot for a short duration which may make up for four to five minutes of the entire film, Talak, who has produced Konkani and Marathi films, said. More at: http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200710151550.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] An article about tourism in Goa... circa 1997
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[Goanet] Goanet Reader: In the midst of Goans
IN THE MIDST OF GOANS By Vidyadhar Gadgil vgadgil at gmail.com Twenty years ago, when I first lived and worked in Goa, I attended a workshop on threats to Goa's environment and culture. It was there that I first heard the term 'bhaille' (outsiders). It was one of the recurring motifs of the workshop that the 'bhaille' were the biggest threats to Goa's environment. I was taken aback, as this was an event attended by liberals and activists, where one would not have expected such viewpoints. Another term I heard was 'ghati'. There was clearly a negative value attached to the term, which in Maharashtra is used to describe rustics. Intrigued, I devoted a fair bit of time to examining the issue. It seemed contradictory that I -- 'bhaillo' and 'ghati' -- never felt any particular hostility directed towards myself; in fact, I met with an easy acceptance. Was this because of my class or caste background? Not entirely, I discovered. Goans are truly among the most tolerant and easygoing of people, not easily given to prejudice. It was not only me, there was no overt hostility towards the people from outside Goa who lived and worked in Goa. When talking about 'outsiders', what people were protesting was a phenomenon -- their perceived lack of control over the development process -- rather than individuals. There was also a genuine anger against the tourism industry's despoilation of Goa and against the anti-people pattern of development that people felt, with some justice, was being imposed upon them from outside Goa. Those were heady times -- there was a churning in Goa as the masses began to assert their identity and demand their rights. The Konkani agitation, the movement against tourism spearheaded by the Jagrut Goenkaranchi Fauz (JGF), the movement for statehood -- they all redefined the political landscape of Goa. At a public meeting on May 30, 1987, the day Goa attained statehood, the mood was one of jubiliation: it was the dawn of hope. Over the next ten years, my involvement with Goa continued, albeit somewhat intermittently, so I was aware that these hopes were being largely crushed. Yet, in 1997, when my family and I shifted to Goa to settle here permanently, it came as a bit of shock to see the change in the public mood; it was as if the churning of the mid-80s had never happened. The movement for genuine change had been sidetracked, marginalized or co-opted by the political class and corporate interests, and it was business as usual. A cynicism and tiredness had set in amongst the no-longer-so-young activists I knew in the mid-80s. But around 2005 the churning process began once again, as globalization and neo-liberalization began to be revealed for the chimeras that they were. People looked around them and discovered to their horror that the development process had been hijacked and turned against the people. The beaches had become privatized concrete jungles, Goa's forests were facing the axe as the construction boom reached ridiculous proportions, and Goa's politicans fattened themselves at the expense of the masses. Once again, the common man was feeling marginalized and threatened. One response to this has been a questioning of the very concept of development. The people's movement which crystallised around the Goa Bachao Abhiyan has redefined the way development is perceived. Development which enriches a few at the expense of the masses and destroys Goa's environment is not true development, this strand of thought avers. It is not the mass of people -- of Goan descent or otherwise -- who are the problem. It is those who heedlessly plunder Goa's resources -- politicians, industrialists and various kinds of middlemen -- and sell them to the highest bidder that are the problem. To paraphrase the speech of Dr. Oscar Rebello, the convenor of the GBA, at the massive public rally in Panjim on December 19, 2006: It is not non-Goans who are the problem; it is the anti-Goans. There is however, another response to Goa's current crisis. This seeks to externalise the problem and, following a xenophobic and reactionary line of thought, blames the workers who come to Goa from other parts of India to earn their living. Ignoring the fact that these workers make a vital contribution to Goa's economy, they are despised and condemned on the basis of the fact that they are poor and come from different cultures and traditions. Rather than look at their relationship with the community and the environment, their ethnic, cultural and religious backgrounds are focused upon. The stigmatization of the 'ghatis' and 'bhaille' has now reached frightening proportions. The worst example of this was when the Sanvordem-Curchorem communal violence of March 2006 was sought to be justified on the grounds that its targets were 'outsiders'. The growing communalization of the Goan polity and society provides
[Goanet] Membership of Goa Suraj
Under that subject please excuse my typos re diaspora and foreign. Roland. -- Roland Francis 416-453-3371
Re: [Goanet] Is filter coffee drunk/sold in Goa?
I will make a point of coming to see you in this disreputable cafe next year when I make my plans for my 2nd ( possibly last visit to Goa, after 47 years absence), hopefully we will be in Goa end of next year the coffee is on me! Ooops I had better be careful, if its Rs 5 now, it may well go up to Rs 10 if it gets busy now you have advertised this, I guess more will come, just to see it and experience the filter coffee. Oh what the heck, I'll buy a pot we can talk RELIGION POLITICS and the STATE of GOA.., sod the expense! Best wishes John Monteiro --- From: Frederick [FN] Noronha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_filter_coffee - There's this little cafe in Panjim, on the right as you go from Azad Maidan towards National Theatre. The filter coffee there is quite tolerable and reasonably priced too (Rs 5), as it's a janata joint, perfect for disreputable (and broke) types like us. :-) ---
[Goanet] Goa news for October 18, 2007
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Not Goa, Jaipur or Kerala. Its destination AP - Newindpress [Oct 16, 2007] NEW DELHI: Rajasthan, Goa or Kerala might be the most romanticised tourism destinations in the country, especially with foreign travellers, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEH20071016131146Page=HHeadline=Not+Goa%2C+Jaipur+or+Kerala.+It%92s+destination+APTitle=Top+StoriesTopic=0cid=1122195471ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Asia India: Violence Mars Goa Final - Goal.com [Oct 14, 2007] India: Violence Mars Goa Final All hell broke loose in the final of the Goa Professional Football League between Dempo and Churchill Brothers as coaches and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=446628cid=1122235362ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Goa\'s spirituality, not beaches, goes hip - Reuters India [13 hours ago] By Prithwish Ganguly MUMBAI (Reuters) - Goa's sprawling beaches have more to them than rave parties, designer Wendell Rodricks sought to portray through his ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://in.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idINDEL30652520071017cid=1122253131ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Ivana pulls off brilliant win - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] In othjer matches, Savant Riya of Goa beat Kavitha PL of TN, Gauri Keshav Hadkonkar of Goa beat Shiny Das of Tripura, Shruthi of Karnataka lost to Niharika ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=101833cid=118075ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Poor maintenance may cause Goa lose shootings: Filmmakers - Hindu [Oct 15, 2007] Panaji (PTI): Increasing loss of greenery from Goa, demolition of old structures and shabby beaches have worried local filmmakers and heritage activists who ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200710151550.htmcid=1122161603ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** IndiGo launches flight from Goa to Hyderabad - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] Panaji, Oct 17 IndiGo, the low-fare domestic airline has launched new daily flights from Goa to Hyderabad on October 7. The aircraft will later fly to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10187cid=1122274947ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** School boys harrassed in Goa - NDTV.com [Oct 15, 2007] Team boys from the Don Bosco High School in Goa returned back home from the Subroto Cup football tournament without playing a single match. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070029476ch=10/15/2007%2010:52:00%20PMcid=0ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Hyderabad piles up 426 - Hindu [2 hours ago] VISAKHAPATNAM: Hyderabad amassed 426 against Goa on the opening day of their round-robin match in the South Zone under-22 (CK Nayudu Trophy) tournament at ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2007/10/18/stories/2007101856892000.htmcid=0ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Anjuna Gym N Goa champs - Navhind Times [Oct 16, 2007] Panaji, Oct 16 Anjuna Gymkhana emerged North Goa champions edging past Holiday Arpora SC 2-1 in the district finals of Seagrams Imperial Blue Champions Cup ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=101734cid=0ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg *** Barbeque Fest at Cidade de Goa - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] Cidade de Goa is currently organising the #152;Great Barbeque Fest at the barbeque restaurant. Different seafood, meats and vegetables cooked as kebabs, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10181cid=0ei=-5oWR-DnDqGeqwPk59WYCg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Why isn\'t the Goan Suraj willing to shine in South
Dear Cedrico, You have seen the political scene in Goa since long. Its no more two parties or three, but its as many as can be, and with all the fiasco going on in Goa, I am sure Floriano, wouldnt want to create an image in peoples mind that his is one election party, but a survival party, and to be a survival party is not an easy step. Even congress to be known all over India, took many years. I believe Goasuraj has their own itenary, and they want to go as per their plans, and I do support them for that.My hope rests on them that they will be the best thing for Goa. and we should support them for their slow growth. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Cedrico wrote...Why is Goasuraj absent from the south Goa parlimentary polls?I have seen and read a lot of lines and posts written in favour of the Goasuraj, infact Goanet is acting as a free publicity forum for the Goasuraj party. One straight question? If the Goa suraj is serious of bringing much needed change to the current disastrous political scene in Goa...why didn\'t they come out to contest the south Goa parlimentary polls on oct 31 2007?Is this organisation only to be a force in the north or are they going to be also rans in the chequered history of Goan politics?Cedric da CostaDubai UAE
[Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
Vinay wrote: -Talking about and exposing ethnic cleansing and massacre of Hindus in Kashmir is communal. -Talking about Mumbai, Varanasi, Delhi Jehadi terrorist bomb blasts is communal. -Talking about the genocide of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh is communal. -Talking about greatest genocide on earth of more than 100 million Hindus during barbaric Muslim moghul, British and Portuguese rule in India is communal. Comment: Unlike Vinay, we are distressed and concerned about violence in society. Violence against the poor, oppressed, minorities, women, dalits, innocents. That is why we are most of the time channelising our resources and energies towards positive and constructive actions, unlike the hindutva brigade. And please do not confuse Hinduism which is a great religion with Hindutva which is practiced by the likes of Narendra Modi and L K Advani. Maybe you need some tutorials on the true meaning of Hinduism under renowned Hindu scholars like Dr Karan Singh who will teach you the essence of Hinduism. It is high time people like you grew up and started thinking. We are no longer living in the dark ages where we need to avenge perceived or imaginary wrongs.We also need to look at issues from other than a communal angle. As the whole world knows the trouble in JK is NOT a Hindu-Muslim issue. It is a fight for territorial autonomy, which has a historical past. More Muslims have died and suffered in the violence there.Poor dalits have suffered oppression for centuries under upper Hindu castes. Has the sangh parivar ever held exhibitions highlighting their plight? Yet there is not a tear in your eye for such victims. Shame on you and your breed!!! Regards, Marshall -- My life has changed. What about yours? Log on to the new Indiatimes Mail and Live out of the Inbox!
Re: [Goanet] exhibition of hatred
Gabe Menezes writes: How can a call to murder, a call to rip out the foetus of a pregnant woman, be construed as, freedom of speech ? Would a rape attack on the propagator's wife or mother be construed as freedom to express one's self ? The write up in Gomantak Times definitely did not say that this is what the exhibition was advocating. Perhaps the information was not complete. On what basis does Gabe say the above? Sachin Phadte _ Get the new Windows Live Messenger! http://get.live.com/messenger/overview
[Goanet] Brit held under Children’s Act
Brit held under Childrens Act BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, OCT 16 Colva police on Tuesday arrested a 29-year old British national under the Goa Childrens Act for keeping a minor laamani boy at his Apartment at Colva. The young foreign national had checked into a holiday apartment at Colva recently and had kept the 12-year-old minor boy in the house, offering to educate him. Colva PI Edwin Colaco informed that the police acted based on a complaint, adding, that the foreigner had no right to house the young boy with him without completing the necessary formalities. Preliminary police investigations show that the foreigner had reportedly met the boys uncle at Khareband and sought his permission to keep the boy at his house for the purpose of education. Taking no chances, the Colva police have sent both the boy and the foreigner for medical examination. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2933cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] South Goa Parlimentary Polls -- Thanks for your views Rolando!
Roland, Firstly...thanks for your comments on my mail. I would say update your knowledge on Goan politics a bit. Having done that, i would think you are a Sardinha sympathiser. Well if that serves you...its your choice. I know Sardinha personally, so also Dr Wilfred Misquita, but then... in the current dispensations...I guess none of them is worthy of my vote. The |Congress betrayed Goans...the BJP hurt Goans, specially the minorities. I am aware of much ground realities of curtorim constituency as my mother hails from there...Sardinha never allowed young leaders to come up. Also he was also trounced by Antonio Gaonkar in the 1990s...if you recollect. I accept your views that defeat and wins are part of elections. I was actively involved in college level politics, i won a record 5 elections out of five and was also felicitated for that...two were unopposed, i held posts like chairman of the council and the general secretary of the council. And we revolutionised the college and had many firsts..but that some other day! Well in the recent years the elections in Goa r fought bet the congress and the bjp...see how the devil is trying to quote the scriptures this time...I mean the BJP or Parrikar trying to put up a christao candidate in South, knowing very well that the minority vote bank is quite sizeable. I am sure like many others including your very own sardinha, it is yet another politician Parriker/BJP will used and discard...ask dotor Willy, Babush.. etc. I grew up observing Eduardo Faleiro...his dynamism and his presence, his writings and speeches in summits as far away in Portugal...I have a personally signed copy of his first book, 'From the Floor'...India lacked good and dynamic leaders like Eduardo,..he was examplary! I even remember putting up his posters at elections while i was associated with politics in Goa then...and most of his victories were agains the MGP...the Late MS prabhu being one of them...I remember that partularly as the campaign tag for the MGP then was a poster around a literally starved looking replica of a LION which said MS for LS. MS lost his deposite against a Congress wave. As for Babush...although he is made a big scapegoat for the RP and other allegations, nothing has been proved yet. And if he was bad, y would the Aam Aadmi oriented Congress touch him? Regards Cedric da Costa Dubai Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Free Speech of Bhandare
Dears, Jerry wrote: Human intelligence is required to know what is right, and what is wrong, what is instigation, and what is education. Unfortunately the schools and colleges that teach us subjects and skills, no longer teach us how to differentiate between education and instruction, morality and ideology. So how the hell do we separate the right from the wrong. So even a highly qualified NRI professional things ideology and ethics are the same ...but will not grant the same for the perpetrators of 9/11, Akshardam or Jammu. Afganistan, Iraq or Kashmir are a different ball game. The Crusaders of yore and also the Inquisitors thought similarly ... and NOW we know how wrong they were!! That, of course, does not stop HJS from following the same tack ...Majoritism. Think like we do or be damned. With the same attitude the Topobhumi in Kundaim is becoming a Kurukshetra these days. Mog asundi. Miguel Message: 1 Date: 15 Oct 2007 15:54:22 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Free Speech of Bhandare Dear Bhandare You are absolutely right when you say; all have the right of free speech. Its like saying All smokers have the right to smoke, but many patrol stations deny them this right. Human intelligence is required to know what is right, and what is wrong, what is instigation, and what is education. Jerry Fernandes From: Bhandare amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody has a right to free speech. Even the bigots!\:-) regards B -- Message: 2 Date: 15 Oct 2007 16:01:25 - From: Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Gadgils amusing reasoning Dear Bhandare, BJP, they have created wrongs, and maybe they are trying to set some right, so let them create an atmosphere where by us people will accept their hot and cold water alike. Jerry Fernandes -- - Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now
[Goanet] Botelho va dar uma volta!
O pa botehlo, Va dar uma volta. Si calhar nao tenhas mais nada para fazer. BC ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
Marshall Mendonca says: Vinay, please tell us what the BJP did for the Kashmiri Pandits in the 6 years it was in power. This point was asked earlier and I had said that assuming that the BJP did nothing for the Pandits. Now we have an organisation called Hindu Janjagruit Samiti attempting to raise the level of consciousness of the problem amongst the society. Should that be stopped because the BJP did nothing? And another question is what have others done for the Kashmiri Pandits? They have been living as refugees in their own homeland since 1989, that is nine years before the BJP came to power in Delhi. I feel that it is Marshall that is leading us around the mulberry bush. Sachin Phadte _ Call friends with PC-to-PC calling -- FREE http://get.live.com/messenger/overview
[Goanet] NYTimes.com: Sometimes Piety Isn't Squeaky Clean
This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gday FN and Goanet, What do you think? FASHION STYLE | October 14, 2007 Sometimes Piety Isn't Squeaky Clean By RUTH LA FERLA The filmmaker Tyler Perry says he has a message of healing; others say he glorifies racial stereotypes. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/fashion/14tyler.html?ex=1193198400en=837e60c8f0e597fbei=5070emc=eta1 -- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company
[Goanet] Hague Apostille {IMPORTANT}.
Dears; India has started to issue Haque apostille with effect from August, 2007. As the Haque convention clearly abolishes the requirement of legalization of foreign documents. (i.e the documents created or originating in a country which is a party of this PARTICULAR CONVENTION irrespective of the fact being a non-member state of the Haque Conference need not be legalized by embassy/consulate for producing in that country). As stiplulated in http://hcch.e-vision.nl/index_en.php?act=status.commentcsid=929disp=type Portugal has raise an objection after the given time limit for filing objections and hence this objection has been OVERRULED by the haque commitee. We all need to know that whether documents bearing haque apostille given by india shall be recognized by CRC and at several applicable places in portugal or NOT? Or is it the consular or embassy legalization/attestation still mandatory. If YES, then it clearly violates the international law of the Haque convention. Comments and facts prevailing invited. Shashikant.
Re: [Goanet] It's a Wonderful World
Hi, I'd posted this a couple of days after my initial post, but it never showed up on Goanet. I waited a few days, and thought it's better I send it again. To wind up my story about our interrupted morning walk, my wife Anjali and I drove around the area looking for our friend in need, and did end up locating the red Sumo on a small side road (luckily for us, the area which we were searching was relatively unpopulated, and we spotted the car from some distance away). When we got there, the man we were seeking was not at home, having gone to drop his elder child to school (he had been returning from the same errand the day before when he ran into us). While we waited for him, his little son brought out a little yellow car which was obviously a prized new possession. No matter that the doors came away in his hands, or that one headlight was smashed what car doesnt have such flaws? When the childs father returned, he was quite astonished to see us. His name, we found out, is Mohammed Ayub Motiwala. A three-wheeler tempo and the Sumo in question constitute his main source of livelihood. It was as fulfilling for us to have found him as it must have been for him to be able to help someone in need. Aniruddha Sen Gupta Porvorim 2415449 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: And even assuming -- merely for the purposes of argument -- that there is a modicum of truth in this, what is the point of trying to target people today for imagined or real sins of their forbears? Is history to be used to whip up communal passions in unrelated contexts? You want to take 'revenge' against people today for the alleged sins of their religious brethren 400 years ago? Of course, the Sangh Parivar is past-master at this strategy, as their acolyte, Manohar Parrikar, demonstrated with his communal VCD. --- Vidyadhar Gadgil, I raise my hat to you. I really do not know how you manage to be so articulate despite the anger thrown at you. I get especially annoyed with the Orange Marches types. If given the change, they will celebrate every atrocity committed since the beginning of time. These are the people we have to be careful not to elect. Last week, we had elections here in Ontario. Seems like the politicians here borrowed from Goa's politicians. The conservative party decided to concentrate their campaign on the promise of providing funding to religious schools (of all faiths). They got soundly beaten. The socialist promised an extra holiday. Guess whose idea was more popular? Speaking of which, since Goans have long memories, which one is going to vote for a party that actually took away religious holidays from them? Here is an interesting quote from today's Globe and Mail. The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. - Marcus Aurelius - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] Archbishop Felipe Ferrao of Goa in San Francisco
October 14 was a memorable day for the Catholic Goan Community residing in and around the San Francisco Bay Area in California. Two hundred ethnic Goans, Filipinos and other parishioners of St. Mark's RC Church assembled in Belmont California to celebrate the presence of the Archbishop of Goa and Patriarch of the East Indies. [In the picture from left to right: Fr. Al Furtado, CSSP, Rector of St. Mark's in Belmont, Fr. George Alengadan, SDB, Rector of St. Ambrose's in Berkeley, Archbishop Felipe Ferrao of Goa, Fr. Ariosto Coelho, President of Spiritual Direction, and Fr. Domingo Jaques who celebrates the diamond Jubilee of the priesthood on October 21, 2007.] http://spiritualdirection.org/NewsAlert.htm Via the GoanVoice-UK
[Goanet] Archbishop Gracias appointed Cardinal
Archbishop Gracias appointed Cardinal PANJIM, OCT 17 - Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday appointed Oswald Gracias, Archbishop of Bombay, as Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. Most Rev. Gracias -- a native of Orlim -- is the fourth Cardinal of Goan origin, after Cardinal Valerian Gracias of Bombay, Cardinal Joseph Cordeiro of Karachi and Cardinal Ivan Dias of Bombay. Archbishop Gracias and 22 other prelates from different parts of the world, who were appointed Cardinals by Pope Benedict, will be created cardinals in a consistory on November 24, the eve of the Feast of Christ the King. Following the November 24 consistory, the College of Cardinals will number 202 members of whom 121, under the age of 80, will be electors. Meanwhile, the Archdiocese of Goa and Daman has rejoiced in the appointment of Archbishop Gracias as a Cardinal of the Universal Church. We offer him warm felicitations as well as to the Church in Bombay, which he so ably leads. This Archdiocese wishes the fourth Son of Goa to enter the College of Cardinals God's special blessings to carry out his outstanding service to the Church in India and worldwide, stated a press note issued by Fr J Loiola Pereira, Director of the Diocesan Centre for Social Communications Media. Archbishop Gracias was born on December 24, 1944 and was ordained a priest on December 20, 1970. He was appointed auxiliary bishop of Bombay on June 28, 1997, before being elevated as Archbishop of Agra on September 7, 2000. He was then appointed as archbishop of Bombay on October 14, 2006, succeeding Cardinal Ivan Dias, who was named in May 2006 as president of the Vatican Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith. http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2960cid=2
Re: [Goanet] Membership Of Goa Suraj
Roland, Thank you for your queries. I shall answer each of your queries as below: - Original Message - From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: [Goanet] Membership Of Goa Suraj Floriano, Is it allowed for disapora Goans especially those who are foriegn nationals to become members of the Goa Suraj and contribute to the fee for party membership? GSRP: No. BTW: Pls note the name of the party is Su-Raj and not Suraj. The former means 'Good Governance' where Su means Good in Sanscrit Language and Raj means governance in any language. The later means the 'Sun' in the Hindi Language. What about foreign nationals who are also Indian citizens. Is it necessary to prove that you are an Indian PIO or citizen before you can contribute and/or pay membership dues? GSRP: Not certain. Will check-out If there are no such restrictions, there may be many Goans in the disapora who are willing to canvass memberships for you and become members of the party. At Rs 300 annually or less than CAD 10 a pop, it won't hurt our pockets and it might do your party much good. GSRP: Correction: Membership (Life or Ordinay) is a one-time affair. Roland. GSRP likes to make a note here. Large membership helps the concerned party morally and ideologically. There is nothing like it if the party has a million members. But winning or losing elections has no bearing on the membership, though it will help the party financially somewhat. Steadfastly supporting the party's ideology (it's raison d'etre) by vast number of people, not necessarily members of the party is more important than a large membership. This party welcomes life members. But it does not go out of the way looking for them. We believe that those who want to belong to the party will come to it on their own and by so doing will remain with it for lifetime. To us that is more sensible and important than a million members who do not have their heart in the party and its programmes. Financial help i.e financing our projects, on the other hand is always welcome with due thanks.
[Goanet] This Dussehra, Hindus will have to miss out on gun worship
This Dussehra, Hindus will have to miss out on gun worship BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, OCT 17 This Dussehra festival, firearm owners from South Goa especially from the Hindu community will have to literally forego traditional worship of their weapons. For, most of the fire arms stand deposited at the police stations across the district as per directives of the district Magistrate in view of the October 31 bye-polls. Most of the owners have already deposited their arms with the police, restricting their access to their guns. And, if the police are to be believed, the owners cannot gain access to the weapons as the arms are deposited as per orders from the District Magistrate. Once fire arms are deposited upon instructions from the district Magistrate, the owners cannot gain access to the arms, unless permitted by the licensing authority, maintained Sub-divisional Police Officer, Margao DySP Umesh Gaonkar. He said unless there are any directions from the District Magistrate, who is an authority to issue arms licenses, the police cannot give access to the owners on the Dussehra day to worship their arms. When contacted, Assistant Electoral Officer, Venancio Furtado said its for the District Magistrate and the Returning Officer to decide on the matter. He, however, feigned ignorance whether any request has come from any firearm owner, seeking permission to worship firearms on Dussehra day which falls on Sunday. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2976cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] BJP will solve Mopa issue: Mesquita
BJP will solve Mopa issue: Mesquita BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, OCT 16 The Bharatiya Janata Party candidate for the parliamentary election in South Goa Dr Wilfred Mesquita on Tuesday said he had full faith the party will find a suitable solution to the Mopa airport issue. Dr Mesquita, who was addressing the media, at BJP headquarters disclosed that he had spoken at length the issue pertaining to scrapping of Mopa airport with the BJP leadership before joining the national outfit. To a question, he reiterated his stand for scrapping Mopa airport and expressed confidence that the BJP leadership would agree with his views. Interestingly, BJP has always taken a pro-Mopa stand and in the past some of their leaders had even criticized anti-Mopa agitation. Opposition to SEZs, the 6-lane Expressway and the Town and Country Planning Act are the other issues on Dr Mesquitas agenda. Replying to queries, the former revenue minister in the Rane government said he was received well by the BJP when he joined the party a day before he filed his nomination. Even I was surprised at first to get such warm welcome, which I did not expect, he said before continuing I know nothing about the infighting in the party over my candidature. Speaking about his divorce with the regional outfit Save Goa Front (SGF) of which he was a founder member, Dr Mesquita claimed SGF was formed, with the help of Churchill Alemao, for fighting the Congress on certain issues. We were fighting against the Congress on issues which were in public interest, however, at the assembly polls we did not get peoples mandate though we just got managed to get enough votes to be a recognised as a state party, he said. Thereafter, Mr Alemao took a different stand and supported Congress thus we had no other choice than to leave the party, he said. About joining BJP, he said, the issues he was fighting could not be taken up sitting at home and had to join some big party. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2931cid=26 Sanny de Quepem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Title Song NRI from the Album of the same name - by Sanny de Quepem
Title Song NRI from the Album of the same name by Sanny de Quepem I Ami zolman goemkar, pun Nagrik Indie-che, Pordhes-an amkam mhunta NRI. Xinkop England-ak kelem, sirvis Africa-k keli, Vhoi toch tho Mahatma Gandhi Indie-cho pai. Ami pordhes-an kadta trass, pun te disson-dissonam Kiteak Delhi valeam-chea dollear ailea sai. Te mhunta koslie sirvis kor, gorjek dusrea-kui tum chor, Amkam fokott tuji Foreign Currency zai. Chorus. Goem tan NRI deligasao-am Gulf-ak ailim, Sanglem tumchea borea khatir hanga ailea ami. Hea pordhes-an itle khoxtt kadlele mhunon tumi, Mozbutt Indiechi zalea economy. Poilo ailo Dotor Willy anik kitle-ch xhani, Tea uprant bhirem ghevun ailo vodil Chandrakant Keni. Churchill, Sardhine, Tomazin, Ferrell Neri hevun ghelim, borvonso dilo kainch korunk-nam tanim. II Edward Faleiro Delhi, Parikar Rane Goem, Hankam kitle pauti ami zagoile. Herculan Gulf tour-ak ailo, ixttam familikui meulo, Kuwaitkar-ank fotti sangon gall amche fugoile. NRI-ank Goem dhondo, korunk souloth diath mhunon, Amchea sangnea-nim tanche kann gazoile. Serkar-an amchi budh ghevun, Goem-chi zomin porkeank dhivun, Dissa uzvadd-an Goemkar-ank nagoile. Chorus. NRI-anchim bhurguim pordhes-an \u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\ Fudlem\u003cbr /\xinkop korunk Goem college-ini veta.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Tumkam NRI-ank fokot amche don-uch\u003cbr /\seat assa,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Hem\u003cbr /\aikon bhurguim Mai-pai niraxi zata.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Medical Engineering college-ini\u003cbr /\nodor mara,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Montreank poixe dhivun bailim\u003cbr /\bhurguim Goem xinkop gheta.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Ami NRI account-an duddu dovorla\u003cbr /\tachoi,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\faido\u003cbr /\bailo lokh amchea khustar khata.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\III\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Herculan Dourado ailo, NRI-ani\u003cbr /\eukar dilo,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\ Gorzo\u003cbr /\sangonk ghelle Kuwait Dubai goemkar.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Air India kortub-am sanglim,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\College\u003cbr /\seat vadoum-cheak maglim,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\toxech\u003cbr /\Goemkar-anche halh boroun dille booker.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Ektaim zaun bhoini toxe bhau,\u003cbr /\athan dille file-inche dau,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Goa Assemblin amcheo gorzo ghallunk mukar.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Soglem visorta pautoch Goem, jem\u003cbr /\sanglelem hanvem tumvem,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Aiz\u003cbr /\tioch faili sodtat Ulhâs Kamath-achea mezar.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Chorus.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Koslie NRI-anchi\u003cbr /\khobor potrar xapon eta,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Goem NRI website assa, konxeak\u003cbr /\bosoileli.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Tie website-icho upeog\u003cbr /\sogleank melchea khatir,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\ Kuwait NRI-ani modoth basaileli.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Tech porim ami\u003cbr /\ekvott-an sogot Goemkar-anim,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Rane serkara thaim assa Romi Lippi\u003cbr /\magleli.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Goem-chea serkara\u003cbr /\tujem pavl tum, chotrai-en fudem ghall,\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\ Goem-chi porza assa zagouleli.\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Lyrics Composed by: Sanny De Quepem\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\ (Cruz\u003cbr /\Sanny Vaz)\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\\u003cbr /\Send instant messages to your online friends \u003ca onclick\u003d\return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\ href\u003d\http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com\; target\u003d_blank\http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com\u003c/a\\u003cbr /\\u003c/div\,0] ); //-- xinkop korun, Fudlem xinkop korunk Goem college-ini veta. Tumkam NRI-ank fokot amche don-uch seat assa, Hem aikon bhurguim Mai-pai niraxi zata. Medical Engineering college-ini nodor mara, Montreank poixe dhivun bailim bhurguim Goem xinkop gheta. Ami NRI account-an duddu dovorla tachoi, faido bailo lokh amchea khustar khata. III Herculan Dourado ailo, NRI-ani eukar dilo, Gorzo sangonk ghelle Kuwait Dubai goemkar. Air India kortub-am sanglim, College seat vadoum-cheak maglim, toxech Goemkar-anche halh boroun dille booker. Ektaim zaun bhoini toxe bhau, athan dille file-inche dau, Goa Assemblin amcheo gorzo ghallunk mukar. Soglem visorta pautoch Goem, jem sanglelem hanvem tumvem, Aiz tioch faili sodtat Ulhâs Kamath-achea mezar. Chorus. Koslie NRI-anchi khobor potrar xapon eta, Goem NRI website assa, konxeak bosoileli. Tie
[Goanet] Chorao: XI annual NEST Conference Invitation
INVITATION For Participation and paper presentation at the ELEVENTH Annual NEST Conference will be held in Chorao, Goa from 10 am 26th November 2007 to 5.00pm 27th November 2007. Theme: TRANSNATIONAL CORPORATIONS, PEOPLE AND THE STATE Possible areas of deliberations for the conference are as follows: 1. TNCs, Land Snatchers; Special Economic Zones, Free Port, Coastal Invasions, Tourism, Industry and Agriculture. 2. TNCs and the Environment: Air, Water, Solid Waste Hazards, e-waste and climate. 3. TNCs: Workers and Womens Issues. 4. TNCs: Health, Medicine and Education. 5. TNCs: Art, Culture, Language, Aesthetics and Sports. 6. TNCs, Science and Technology: Information technology Energy, Defense and SecurityApparatus. 7. TNCs and the International Scenario: Africa, Asia and Latin America. 8. Crisis and Internal Contradictions of TNCs. 9. Peoples Movements against the TNCs: Jal, Jungle, Jameen, Dams and Rehabilitation, Mines, Food and Fishery. 10. Any other related issues. Registration fee for earning: Rs.250/- Non-earning: Rs. 150/- (Inclusive of boarding and lodging for both the days). Stying arrangements in Chorao will be from 25th November 2007 onwards . The venue is Mahale Hall, Pandavadda, Chorao Island, close to Panjim City with one ferry crossing at Ribander. Last date to confirm your participation: November 18 2007 Contact NEST email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE ON NEST: NEST stands for Nature Environment Society and Transformations. Its founder is Dr. Bikram Dasgupta, Department of Chemistry, Goa University, Goa. Besides its Annual Conferences, number of small reflective and interactive sessions participated by Academics, workers, common People, Artists, Intellectuals; thereby creating an interface between them. The group is also involved in solidarity meets with different groups of people threatened by development paradigm. The following are themes of the past ten years as we take time to look back and enter XIth year as a voluntary organization: 1. First Annual conference Nature Society and transformations Venue: Peaceful society, Madkai, Goa. 2. Second Annual conference Development and its Consequences Venue: Peaceful society, Madkai, Goa 3. Third Annual Conference Development and its Consequences Venue: Government School, Menkurem, Goa 4. Fourth annual Conference Institutions, Ideologies and Knowledge Systems Venue: Zantye College, Bicholim 5. Fifth Annual Conference Science and Education in Historical Perspective Venue: Kamleshwar High School, Korgao, Goa 6. Sixth Annual Conference Dynamics of order and disorder in nature and society: Chaos, Systems Theory and Chaocomplexology. Venue: New Leed Trust, Kalyanapuram, Tamilnadu. 7. Seventh Annual Conference People Resources and Resistance Venue: Madras Christian College, Tambram, Chennai. 8. Eighth Annual Conference Indigenous People Venue: SDC,Ranchi, Jharkhand 9. Ninth Annual Conference Political Economy Venue: Manantwadi, Kerala 10. Tenth Annual Conference Women, Workers and Humanism Venue: Shikshak Bhavan, Pune Please convey your confirmations to any of the co-ordinators below or to the NEST email id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] by November 18 2007 John Cardozo (Co-ordinator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (m): 09822143223 Kishore Chattaria (Co-ordinator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (m): 09822386325 Ulhas Gaonkar (Co-ordinator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (m): 09923765741 269, Hilltop Residence, Pandavaddo, Chorao Islands Goa 403 102. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph. No. 0832-2239968
Re: [Goanet] Defamation of HJS FACT Exibition
In his message, Vidyadhar Gadgil says that Communalism Combat has taken up the issue of the Kashmiri Pandits. A friend of mine subscribes to the publication, and I am afraid I do not find myslef in agreement with Vidyadhar on this. Yes, they have some articles on the subject - but what is the rule and what is the exception? Another friend says that he questions the sincerity of the editors of Communalism Combat on the basis of what he has heard them say in public meetings. Again, the issue is really not whether the Sangh has done anything for the Kashmiri Pandits or whether Communalism Combat has done anything for them. It is what Vidyadhar had said in response to a message from me, namely: Of course, their plight must be addressed. Meaningful solutions must be found. I would like to know from Vidyadhar exactly what these meaningful solutions are. He has said that Communalism Combat has written many articles on this. To test the sincerity of the editors, and prove my friend wrong (which I dearly want to do), can he post an article from the publication where a meaningful solution has been proposed. To the point of sounding like a broken record, I would like to once again mention that the Pandits have been suffering since 1989, that is for the last 18 years. I was also intrigued by the quote from a Communalism Combat editorial, namely: Whenever Communalism Combat is blamed for being 'too pro-minority', we hold the Sangh Parivar and the rest of the saffron brotherhood responsible for this editorial 'tilt'. Reminds me of a joke where a person says that he has very responsible position in his organisation - he is held responsible for all that is going wrong in it. :-) On a serious note, does this quote not disprove Vidyadhar's contention about the concern of Communalism Combat with respect to the Kashmiri Pandits? Sachin Phadte _ Check out some new online services at Windows Live Ideas—so new they haven’t even been officially released yet. http://www.msnspecials.in/windowslive/
Re: [Goanet] Goa Suraj and South Goa Parlimentary Polls
Hi Mr. Cedric, Your post reflects echoes the views of many Goans; be they resident here, somewhere in India, or abroad. I am no member of any party, but I fully endorse what Mr. Floriano Lobo has said on the need for party funds. I definitely do not think that greater monetary power with a party is going to ensure the well being of society, I will not elaborate as Mr. Lobo as summed it up in the best possible way. Writing letters is excellent. And I have nothing to say about you speaking from Dubai, many of us have compulsions that force us to go elsewhere. Letters present interesting viewpoints that might not always strike all our minds. (but I have to mention that I did not like the tone/content of your criticism of the Goa Suraj Party). A social revolution in Goa atleast, will not come overnight. But the attempts need to be ongoing. Education is a strong means. Participation of youth at the panchayat level, gram sabhas, greater awareness toward govt policy etc needs to be undertaken by the youth. I think we can expect change in that way. As far as the issue of votes is concerned, well, blame the large Goan faithful. But I believe very strongly this will change one day, because (even though in a small way), there are groups that are working towards bringing change. best, Joseph de Melo Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: cedrico dacosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goa Suraj and South Goa Parlimentary Polls To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Rolando, All i can say to you is wait and watch...other than that i cannot divulge any more details at the moment. Cedric da Costa Dubai Dear Floriano, Firstly, although being away from Goa, I will be well versed on many a ground realities happening in Goa than many a sussegad Goenkar based in Goa...that credit i will give myself. If you have been reading my posts on Goanet, 'Uncensored' in Goan Observer and Herald (of course they banned me when i put an open letter against Digamber Kamat, titled...Margao's Suffocating Judas, that highlighted Margao's ailing plight and the rampant migration problem that Margao facesmy thoughts were right but somehow, people in power dont like highlighting the ills of their constituency). Why would I waste my precious time to highlight Goan issues, being comfortably based in the Gulf? the answer is simple -- having born and bred in a Goa of yesteryears...my heart will always be with my motherland...one day I will come back to it...but unfortunately it lies in shambles today -- thanks to the politicians of today. Although i think you should do a rethink and try and organise funds for your party cause without which in the current political ringto win...is like...wishful thinking even in the next twenty years if your party lasts that long with the current think-tank. The ground reality is many regional parties die a natural or slow death all over the world due to paucity of funds and that is a given fact, although some of them have better agenda's than most of the big parties put together...we are in the era where no matter what, money has to flow to win an election, specially when we are competing against huge money bags and regional parties. If money was not a criteria, why would the elected representatives let out a reign of loot and plunder, ofcourse part of it spent on getting themselves re-elected. But anyways, as a fellow Goan I passionately and wholeheartedly subscribe to your thought to cleanse Goa of all that it is going through. Imagine we are suffering so much due to rampant corruption abetted by the politicians...imagine again the state of Goa that our children will inherit. Just a small thought i would like to share...on filing his nomination see what issues Francisco Sardinha a senior politician said...instead of trying to improve infrastructure or say trying to support the next big industry -- tourism...his comments smacked so much immaturity...so one can imagine...what lies ahead... None of the current MLA's or Ministers nor even the Aam AAdmi chanting CM have the future of Goa in their mindall they think of is live for, or survive for the day...arn't they? Goans should be trained in the art of grabbing all the monies and freebees that the national parties give them, but while voting elect honest people like say your party would put up. But with the huge migrant vote...once again money plays a huge part. At the last election, I personally waited for one of his opponents (you included) to destroynot defeat... but destroy a narkasur like Dayanand Narvenkar...but what happened is what we all saw...but maybe in the years to come...Good luck there! Wish you luck maite and your organisation...May Goemcho Saib, bless it! Regards Cedric da Costa Dubai
