[Goanet-News] Goa news for February 14, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Munnabhai gets married - NDTV.com [19 hours ago] The 48-year-old filmstar and Manyata, who have been close friends for last two years, had reportedly tied the knot at a five-star hotel in Goa on February 7 ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtvmovies.com/newstory.asp?section=Moviesslug=Munnabhai+gets+marriedid=ENTEN20080040985cid=1130355407ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Goa CM in Delhi to meet high command - Hindu [Feb 12, 2008] PANAJI: Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat rushed to New Delhi on Tuesday to seek the intervention of the Congress high command to resolve the problem of an ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/02/13/stories/2008021354931400.htmcid=1130667939ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Goa may go beef-less soon - Herald Publications [15 hours ago] Shri Ram Sena, which has intensified its campaign against cow slaughter, now decided that supply of beef to Goa #148; primarily from Karnataka and other States ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8435cid=2cid=1131412928ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Foreigners smitten by Goa village houses - Merinews [18 hours ago] Goa has been witnessing an economic boom. The new-found wealth among village middle-class has made them abandon their oldvillage houses and move to cities ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=129631cid=1131794887ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Delhi team leaves for Goa meet - Delhi Newsline [1 hour ago] New Delhi, February 13 The Delhi Athletics Association (DAA) will field a 27-member contingent in the National cross-country meet to be held at Goa on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Delhi-team-leaves-for-Goa-meet/272567/cid=1132044506ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Paramount Airways to connect Pune and Goa by May 08 - TravelBizMonitor [14 hours ago] By TBM Staff http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/articleDetails.aspx?id=2220sectionid=36name=Top%20Storiescid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Tamil Nadu gain bonus point against Goa - Navhind Times [19 hours ago] Panaji, Feb 12 E Ashwin fired Tamil Nadu to a four-wicket win with bonus points against Goa in their first match of the under-25 south zone inter-state PS ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=021327cid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Goa\'s Pala Flicks launches infotainment series for TV - Indiantelevision.com [10 hours ago] Pala Flicks has been established by Los Angeles Writer-Director Greg Acuna now living in Goa. The company plans on reaching out to creators around the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k8/feb/feb150.phpcid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Karnataka, Kerala wins bonus points, Goa lose again - Deepika [7 hours ago] In the two other matches, Kerala outplayed Tamil Nadu by seven wickets at the SAG Ground also in Margao, while Andhra Pradesh defeated hosts Goa by three ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG6_sub.asp?newscode=14288catcode=ENG6subcatcode=cid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** India Inc turns its back on Goa, blames instability - Economic Times [Feb 12, 2008] PANAJI: Goas contribution towards central excise revenue is on a downward slope. The state will collect Rs 20 crore less this year,thanks to a flight of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/India_Inc_turns_its_back_on_Goa_blames_instability/articleshow/231.cmscid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] DOCUMENTARY: Where's Sandra? On NDTV 24x7
Kavita Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] informs about an upcoming film of interest, on Indian mainstream TV channel NDTV 24x7. Where's Sandra? will be broadcast on NDTV 24x7's new slot Documentary 24x7 at the following times: Thursday Feb. 14 – 9.30 p.m. (at night) Sunday Feb 17 - 1.30 p.m (in the afternoon). Film-maker Paromita writes: Please do watch and let as many people know as possible. Also, please send feedback/support for the slot to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since it will help in expanding the space we hope! ABOUT THE FILM WHERE'S SANDRA? (Documentary, 18 min., English, Digital Video) Produced by: CELEBRATE BANDRA TRUST Directed by: PAROMITA VOHRA Camera: AVIJIT MUKUL KISHORE Sound: ANITA KUSHWAHA Editors: JABEEN MERCHANT, SANKALP MESHRAM Actors: TUHINA VOHRA, SONALI VERMA, RACHEL LOPEZ Who is Sandra? And if she's from Bandra where is she? If you saw her would you know her? As you walk through Bandra past the rozedars buying food from Jeff's, the college kids making the mochas last, the aunties haggling with the vegetable sellers, the biker boys on Bandstand, the commuters pouring out of the sunlit old station building you may well ask Where's Sandra? This short film looks for the answers in random encounters and intimate conversations – in Church, with a priest who leads us through the graveyard, in the words of poets and the songs of Hindi films, in the ladies compartment of the local train where a group of women sing Konkani songs, finally finding several Sandras in Bandra. Some hate their name, some love it but didn't start out in Bandra and some turn out to be fraudulently claiming the title. The film wanders around Bandra wondering about Sandra – stereotype or fantasy? Affectionate parody or vicious mockery? Still here or just a figment from the past? Contact the film-maker: Paromita Vohra, DEVI PICTURES, mail:parodevi AT gmail.com
Re: [Goanet] 'Hindu Janjagruti Samiti' Sanatan Saunstha- My personal experiences
Sandeep I woulk like to reply, unfortunately the thread with MFH was closed no further comments or opinions are permitted now, though I have seen two posters who have done so since its closure, one to be sarcastically say it was about time the thread was closed, and another who like yourself has picked up the thread of MFH albeit in a different mode. I continue to say that we should NOT tread on one another's feelings when it comes to faith, no matter who they are. If my physical being takes refuge in a house, and since this house is my castle, then I am permitted to guard it the residents in the house. If I am physically threatened within my own house, I will take up arms against the intruder. My soul resides within my body, while I am still alive and if an intruder decides to intrude within my soul, I have every right to protect it continue with my faith, but I take it that some religions are ok to mock, so be it. My sould remains within me, I have the power to forgive, this I do but I cannot forget the slight. In your case, it appears that politics is again mixed up with religion and visa versa, which to my mind is just another way of conning the public. Yes, only Krishna has a flute, in much the same way Jesus is seen on cross. Nobody would suggest that his mother, Joseph or any of the Apostles were crucified in the same way as Jesus was, though Peter was (upside down by his own request), but I guess there are painters out there in the big wide world that do make assumptions do outrage others sensitives, ploughing through as though they have a right on artistic grounds, a license to print money from other's pain. Uou know that the Flute swing seat is representative of Krishna, Ganesh is protrayed by the image of an elephant, not with a flute but holding various boons in his hands, with his vehicle, the rat a his feet. Krishna whilst young was caught red-handed with his hands in the butter, that is why he is seen with a pot of butter when he was a child, with a flute when older. Perhaps you can modify your banner so that you can have your day at the temple, if you are celebrating something, then play this game the correct way, I am sure the opposers will not have anything to say about it, since you are correct in your depiction of the Hindu deities. If you keep religion politics separately, there will be no issue for them to contemplate, it appears that they just wanted the same spot on the same time as you had been using, it was just a trick from their political masters. Good luck next time, John Monteiro -- sandeep heble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time back, more precisely during the Ganesh Chaturthi festival, I had a couple of visitors knocking at my door, complaining about a banner that was displayed outside the Mahalaxmi Temple Hall in Panjim. The visitors dentified themselves as members of the 'Hindu Janjagruti Samiti'. Cheers Sandeep Heble -
Re: [Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and Ghantis
Rico, Hope Rico is acceptable, since I like shortforms. Nowhere did I say that Raj T is right. But that is chauvinism. And Diana was talking about the same, the mind-based conflict leading to chauvinism when acutely threathened. Acutely threathened by what ?...you may ask :-)). The answer is 'Political popularity'. Raj T would definately want to cut to size Kripashankar Singh, a UP Bhaiya, who is the current MLA with a swelling slum-vote-bank which Raj T can never shake. Therefore the ire against North Indians. If the same MLA was a South Indian, Raj T would move against South Indians. Raj T will be alive and kicking taking any line ( against North or South Indians) from the understanding that 'Mumbai will burn if he is touched'. The conflict, my dear Rico is not economic, or ethnic or religious. The problem is political and nothing but political. If these rabble-rousers ( read Raj T etc) are kicked in the groin by the Election Commission and render them impotent, things will never get out of hand. But EC will not and cannot move in. That is the sad part of it. Here in Goa, the fear is that someone like Raj T will be born some day if the Election Commission sleeps over this issue of migrants deciding what government we Goans should have. It is a matter of frustration when you know that you are going to be reduced to a nonentity in your own land. It is not the 'kicking the migrants out' that will help Goa. As a matter of fact 'kicking the Election Commission' where it hurts will help Goa. For Goa cannot survive without migrant labour force. Goa does not and will never have a blue collar work force. This was decided when Goa was liberated in 1961. One of the patrons of Goa who was in charge then, and who is now talking big, like we say in Konkani - Malun'ank don ton'dam ', is Dr. JC Almeida. He was partly responsible to open up Goa industrially to the rest of India when Goans didn't know head or tail of doing business except running bars and restaurants. What he could do was to start a training process to train Goans and channelise them into industrial vocations. Goa cannot allow every Tom-Dick and Harry who boards a Goa bound train and lands here to queue up in the voting line to vote for Digamber Kamat, Dayanand Narvekar, Babush Monserrate, Vishwajeet Rane and the likes who are working towards underming Goa rather than work for Goa. Diana has given you an example of Sancoal where the Panchayat is run by the settlers, so much so, that the Sarpanch cannot even speak a word of Konkani or English, but Kannad. You have your answers from this example and no more is required. And if you think that I am against this, then you have another think coming. I would rather prefer Kannad run Panchayats in Goa than to have our own Goans in the saddle. Call it the crab mentality or whatever you like. But that is the fact of life in Goa today. Our own guys are our own enemies. rgds fc - Original Message - From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and Ghantis On 12/02/2008, Floriano_GMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diana, Tell Fred that Raj Thackeray is alive and kicking accross the border. Maybe someday the blinds that are covering Fredricks vision will lift and he will be able to see reality. Cheers to your argument. floriano Hi Floriano, Fred is my login-name. I don't use it to for myself. As far as Raj Thackeray goes, what are the lessons we learn from him? Would you appreciate him if he had a campaigns in Goans in Mumbai too (estimated at 100,000 in 1960, no figures since). Do you think he's doing the right thing w.r.t North Indians? Who do you feel has granted him the rights for him and his uncle to decide whom to target -- South Indians, Muslims, North Indians -- as and when he chooses? Above all, can the concept of India as a federal entity (however flawed) ever continue with more of this kind of nativism in a metropolis thinking, as Dipankar Ghosh called it [ http://www.amazon.com/Nativism-Metropolis-Shiv-Sena-Bombay/dp/0836409558] ? Are you just rabble-rousing here, or would you be willing to forego the advantages of belonging to one larger South Asian market (which needs to be expanded, not shrunken) if you are not willing to pay the price that goes along with it? (In fact, the price that most of the anti-outsider lobby on Goanet blames on the migrant could be better attributed to stem from a range of other trends (corruption, abuse of the system, the loss of control over the political class, deep divisions and mistrust within Goan society, land-related rackets, the spurt of middle class consumption and affluence including by you and me, and the greying of Goa due to the contruction plague which you know about.) Anyway, it's good that you raised this issue. I
[Goanet] ENVIRONMENT-INDIA: Call To Save Major Biodiversity Hotspot (Keya Acharya/IPS)
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=41115 ENVIRONMENT-INDIA: Call To Save Major Biodiversity Hotspot By Keya Acharya The Purple Frog, discovered in the Western Ghats in 2003, is testimony to the area's rich biodiversity Credit:S.D. Biju BANGALORE, Feb 8 (IPS) - Environmentalists are reviving a plan to conserve the vast hilly, forested region running parallel to the west coast of peninsular India (western ghats), recognised as a global biodiversity hotspot. We have to get together again to stop the ecological degradation that is now taking place in the western ghats,'' says Pandurang Hegde, leader of the 'appiko' (hug the trees) movement of the 1980s, which forced the government to ban tree-felling inside the protected area. The 'Save Western Ghats' movement of the 1980s involved over 20 local and regional people's movements who got together to march the length of the sector between November 1987 and February 1988, in an awareness-building protest against the construction of dams and power stations that destroy one of the world's richest habitats. Movements under this banner influenced government policy to stop the felling of trees in Karnataka and cancel plans for a dam in the Silent Valley which was declared a patch of undisturbed tropical forest and converted into a national park in 1984. The Indian government also set up the Western Ghats Development Programme in 1981 to ensure policies maintained ecological balance, preserved genetic diversity and created awareness for eco-restoration for the damage already done. But those successful environmental movements of the 1980s had, in subsequent decades, died down. The western ghats cover 159,000 sq.km, traverse 1,600 km through six west coast states -- Gujarat, Goa, Maharashtra, Kerala, Karnataka and Tamilnadu -- and house an incredible diversity of species and some of the finest examples of moist deciduous and tropical forests. The ghats, also known as Sahyadri in Maharashtra, has 5,000 species of flowering plants, 139 mammal species, 508 bird species and 179 amphibian species. At least 325 of these are globally threatened species. Its a complex network of 22 rivers that provides nearly 40 percent of India's water-catchment systems. New Delhi-based environmental writer Sudhirendar Sharma likens the western ghats to the Amazon forests in its environmental importance. The stakes for saving the western ghats are much higher than previously envisaged and the scope much higher, says Sharma, The entire region stands to gain as it is the gateway to life-saving monsoons that provide water-security in the subcontinent. But, in recent years, a fresh spate of construction activity encouraged by the government has re-appeared in these hills. Currently the best stretch of wilderness exists in the Nagarahole-Bandipur--Mudumalai national park belt of Karnataka and Tamil Nadu states and the adjoining Wynad region of North Kerala, holding India's largest protected population of 1,500 elephants. But the entire protected area faces great pressure from all sides. In 2006, Prakruthi, a non-gopvernment organisation (NGO) founded by Pandurang Hegde and dealing with sustainable harvesting of non timber forest produce, undertook a journey through the ghats to assess the situation and found 'mindless development' taking place. In Maharashtra, private urban townships, steel and power plants are posing a fresh set of threats to this biodiversity. Mining, diversion of rivers, wildlife tourism and monoculture plantations in Goa have conservationists worried. Dams, power plants, mining and violent left wing guerillas threaten the ghats in Karnataka. Encroachments from agricultural plantations, urbanisation and pollution threaten the forests in Tamil Nadu and Kerala. The very ethos of the Western Ghats Development Program appears to have been laid to rest by the government,'' complains Hegde. Sharma, who accompanied the Prakruthi team on their assessment journey and wrote a travelogue report on the situation, believes that the concept of the ghat's forests providing oxygen needs to commodified in the new market economy that has taken hold in India. If we can sell carbon offsets, why can we not sell oxygen outright?, he declares. We need to set up a system wherein those in the ghats who conserve their forests and thereby help maintain atmospheric oxygen for the entire country and subcontinent should be paid by their governments for doing so.'' The group meanwhile has decided to set up a summit later in the year where all the stakeholders in the western ghats can meet and decide upon a course of action. A website will be set up in March to gather people's opinions, intensify the Save Western Ghats campaign worldwide and attract international attention, says Sharma. This new movement cannot be on the lines of yesteryears because today's reality is market-driven,'' explains Hegde. We need to involve even marketing people in this venture. (END/2008)
Re: [Goanet] Act fast to REMOVE picture
I second what Rajan has said to the hilt. It will not be the global warming, not water scarcity, not Tsunamis that will destroy the world. It will be RELIGION. fc - Original Message - From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Act fast to REMOVE picture To Goanet - Dr. Virgincar, Allow me to strike a dissenting note. I will not sign that petition. Nor will I sign any petition from any Hindu or Christian group that demands curbing of anyone's right of expression.
Re: [Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and Ghantis
To Goanet - Fred Noronha wrote: Anyway, it's good that you raised this issue. I would like to hear from the ultra-silent gruop who make the 'outsider' the main bugbear of today's Goa I would like to hear from those ultra-silent masses of Goans themselves who have been watching helplessly as their land life are being taken over by the marauding migrants, both rich and poor. Already the pinkos have begun to frame the narrative to suit their nefarious goals. We are now told that the outsider is being made an unfair target, a scapegoat for all of Goa's ills. In other words, the pinkos as usual are telling us to take their word over our lying eyes. Regards, r Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] For kind favour of publication: Seminar on Bioactive molecules
2008-02-13
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ST. XAVIER'S COLLEGE - MAPUSA - GOA - INDIA - 403507 (TEL: 0832-2262356 WEBSITE: www.xavierscollege-goa.com)
Dear Sir, I will be grateful if you publish the enclosed in your issue and oblige. With many thanks and kind regards, Yours sincerely, Prof. Newman Fernandes PRINCIPAL Seminar on Bioactive molecules The School of Biosciences, St. Xavier's College Mapusa Goa, comprising of the Departments of Microbiology, Botany and Biotechnology in collaboration with the National Institute of Oceanography is organizing a National level Seminar on Recent advances in the discovery and use of Bioactive molecules on the 7th and 8th of March 2008 at the National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula, Goa . The Seminar will showcase papers from experts from different disciplines which will pave the road to a better understanding of the diverse field of bioactive compounds, which play an indispensable role in every facet of our lives. The seminar will highlight the enormous work underway to tap the innumerable resources and explore new vistas for harnessing materials of promising potential to mankind. The seminar will also identify the pros and cons of large scale usage of bioactive materials in diverse fields and also aims in sensitizing the general public about the need to exercise caution and find out more facts and information prior to the purchase of bioactive products. Presentations from personnel from eminent pharmaceuticals and other related industries would help to srenghten the link between academia and the corporate world. For further details regarding registration, presentation of papers or posters kindly contact St Xaviers College, Mapusa ,Goa at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone 0832-2262356/9822484108/9822984363
Re: [Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and Ghantis
To Goanet - Philip Thomas wrote: Its a thin line which separates them and their ilk from jingoism. Elsewhere such folks form fringe elements and they are firmly put in their place. Philip Thomas must have access to highly classified information that the rest of us don't. He is invited to spill the beans on these havens of tolerance elsewhere within India that have been his good fortune to be acquainted with. Now who and where could these be? Could it be the rampaging Dravidians of TN? The slash-and-hack Marxist Mallus? Perhaps those genteel welcoming states of Karnataka and AP (minus the teeming Kannadiga and Telugu Desam chauvinists)? He couldn't be talking about those Shiva Senaites. What about the Bangla bigots? Come now, Thomas, don't be coy. Where exactly are these welcoming and tolerant havens within India located that we Goans could take inspiration from? Thomas is right about one thing, though. If Goans had tried these stunts in any other Indian state such as trying to usurp vending slots in Belgaum, Hubli or Kolkota, they would have been firmly put in their place. In fact, they would have been cut up into little pieces and shipped to the Marmagoa harbour. Regards, r Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[Goanet] Growing Orchids in Goa
Dear members..I came across an article on Floriculture written by Miguel Braganza. The article relates to growing orchids in Goa. I'd appreciate if anyone could guide me on the same or provide contact details of concerned person in this field. Thank you. Regards, W. D'Souza 9892147487 - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[Goanet] Daily Haiku #13
DAILY HAIKU #13: DRESS if the dapper can be be dowdy, why the tapper kunnbi gauddi? __ Aunty, Famous Indians, Haiku, Churchill cartoons, etc: http://2008goanconvention.com/blog/index.php _
[Goanet] LETS GO TO GOA - PHOTOS I TOOK AT MAPUSA FOR THE FRIDAY BAZAR IN GOA
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Re: [Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and Ghantis
Diana, You have highlighted the key points in this land scam scourge. However, nothing will change in Goa unless politicians and their pimps go to jail for violating land laws. A current MLA and son of a former Chief Minister was reported by NDTV last year for having set up several scam companies to organize illegal deals. He is now a Minister in the current government. No current Goan politician can and should be trusted. Every major land transaction of the last 10 years should be reviewed and the guilty sent to jail. Nothing less. Who is willing to do this? Protests by a motley group of well-meaning activists mean nothing in the long run. The land mafia will turn Goa into one large slum. Regards, George P.S. I did not change the subject line and the word ghantis. For all the labored explanations, it is derogatory. They are still, as Gandhi called them, children of God - even if unwelcome in Goa. --- Flower2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick, Yes, in migration is as old as the hills in Goa, but I think everyone will agree, that in the past, Goans have assimilated migrants quite graciously. I think we have to understand why Goans have suddenly taken to chauvinism as you put it. Could it be that the migrants are now descending in overwhelming numbers? Perhaps there is no question of assimilation now, because Goans are being drowned by the waves. You may have a point as you said at the Goenkaranchem Daiz meeting that Goans are not competitive enough, but here in Margao, I have seen the cartels that the out of state migrants have quickly formed with regard to other traditional trades. They have marginalised outmanoeuvred the naive Goans and taken over. As I see it, the Goan is a gentler breed than that hailing from other parts of the country - all that is fast changing now that the natural Goan graciousness has been exploited to the hilt by migrants ( and here I do not refer only to the poorer classes) of course in cahoots with our politicians.
[Goanet] Police brutality against minor girl comes to light in Calangute in North Goa.
--- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED. Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Police brutality against minor girl comes to light -- A case of gut-wrenching police brutality against a minor girl has come to light and police higher-ups have instituted a departmental inquiry into the incident. Allegedly, a 15-year old girl working as a maid, was picked by an all-male police team from the Calangute police station at 7.30 p.m., and kept in illegal detention overnight at the police station. She was beaten under the soles of her feet and made to run. She was also kicked in her stomach and back, was given electric shocks, deprived of food and threatened with torture of her private parts. She was not produced before any magistrate, nor was any record of her arrest made. These are the charges against Calangute police that are the subject of a departmental inquiry by a team headed by Bicholim deputy superintendent of police, Mr Shamba Sawant. The victim girl's torment would have been in vain had not her sister complained to a women's organisation about the alleged police torture of the minor girl. The women's organisation swiftly lodged a police complaint before the Director General of Police, Mr B S Brar, forcing the present inquiry. Moved by the girl's plight, the National Domestic Workers Movement – Goa unit, has now pledged to monitor the case until the end. The facts of the case, as related by NDWM, are as follows. The 15-year old girl hails from Orissa and was employed as a housemaid in Calangute. Following a complaint of theft against her by her employers, Calangute police picked her up on January 20, 2008 and subjected her to the above-mentioned brutality. Sadly, the girl's employers who lodged the complaint against her had not paid her wages for a long time. Outside intervention was necessary to recover her dues totalling Rs 18,000, sources said. The NDWM called a meeting of domestic workers at Mapusa last Sunday. A NDWM press release said that all the domestic workers have expressed support and solidarity with the victim. They have demanded that a fair inquiry into the violation of human rights be conducted and that the guilty be punished. When contacted for his comments, the Inspector General of Police, Mr Kishan Kumar was curt. He only said a departmental inquiry has been instituted under DySP, Mr Sawant and that it would be taken to its logical end. The DySP, Mr Sawant also declined to give details of the case. This is not an investigation. This is a departmental inquiry. So I am not able to divulge details of the case,'' Mr Sawant said. --- The Navhind Times 12/02/08 page 2 --- -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __._,_.___
Re: [Goanet] Carbon Abstinence this Lent
Hey Nigel, Just catching up with 37 GoaNet digests... and I hope Fr. Ivo is going to hear your confession before giving you Easter communion this year :-) ... Church advocates carbon fast for Lent http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/05/tearfund However, I think it is a commendable request to make of those who can't wait to make up for their Lenten abstinences. If only their efforts could be sustainable after the 40 days and 40 nights, you could be onto to something here. Incidently, going vegetarian for Lent 'kills two birds with one stone' to use an inappropriate idiom, given the topic. A vegetarian diet reduces the diner's carbon footprint http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/06/business/greencol07.php Another initiative you may have heard of is even shorter but makes a positive impact on our consciousness of how dependent we have become on polluting sources of energy. http://www.earthhour.org/ We hope that the environment session (chaired by Helga Rosario Gomes and her husband, Joaquim Goes) at the 2008 Goan Convention in Toronto will focus on some of these issues affecting the local and global environment. Kevin == Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:15:30 +0530 From: Nigel Britto [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: For all you crusader/clergymen/scientists out there, this is not the official stance of any Christian denomination's Church. It's just a .. hmmm. Goanetters initiative, if I may call it that :-) Truth Liberates? Nigel Britto -- http://2008goanconvention.com http://www.multiculturalcanada.ca/ecp/content/goans.html
[Goanet] Guinness Website on - Konkani World Record - Marathon Singing at Kalangann, Mangalore
Guinness Website on - Konkani World Record - Marathon Singing at Kalangann, Mangalore 30 January 2008 Singing marathon record smashed! At 10pm on Sunday 27th January 2008 a new Guinness World Record for the Longest Singing Marathon by Multiple Singers was achieved by the Mandd Sobhann Cultural Organisation, in Managalore, India. The stunning 40-hour record was achieved without any rest breaks by a continuous stream of 44 different groups consisting of 1,711 singers belting out 645 songs in the Konkani language. A record of this magnitude is just as much a test of logistical and organisational skills as it is singing durability - the attempt took almost a year of meticulous planning to succeed! As Guinness World Records adjudicator, Keith Pullin, announced that a new record had been set, the vast crowd at the Kalaangann (the world's only Konkani Heritage centre) erupted in deafening applause and cheers, as the organisers danced and embraced with unbridled tears of joy and relief. Fireworks, confetti, and tickertape filled the warm night sky as singers, musicians and spectators partied into the morning of a brand new, world-record-holding-day. The above news is awailable in guinness website at http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/adjudications/080127_longest_singing_marathon.aspx Photographs at guinness website: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/images/adjudications/080127_singing_marathon_1.jpg http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/images/adjudications/080127_singing_marathon_2.jpg -- Ancy S. D'Souza, Paladka E2-139 Diwan Apt III Vasai Road East Thane Dist - 401 210 Tel: 0250-2390225 Cell: 9320733213, 9323299570, 9892917888 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] After CBSE - Further studies
Dear All who can advise ... Is there any university in Goa or Bangalore for undergraduate programs in Business Admins. or Business Management and what is the % that the Gulf Students NRI required. They are CBSE students in Dubai, for which the results will be out by say end May 2008. Please advise.. Mrs. Fernandes Dubai
[Goanet] Fisher mode practice chess tournament for U 9 selected players
*Press Note* Taleigao Chess Academy will be organising a series of chess tournaments only for players going to play the Under- 9 National Chess Tournament at Delhi.. These are practice tournaments to be played on Saturday and Sunday. The aim of these tournaments is to get players used to playing with the Fisher mode chess clocks which will be used during the Nationals.The first of these tournaments will be on Saturday Feb 16 and Sunday 17 of 5 rounds. The games will be played at the Academy's premises at Dynasty Manor, Odlembhat, Taleigao, Goa. All those players who have been selected to represent Goa for the U-9 Nationals and those likely to go as donor entries may contact Shrikant Vinayak Barve, Secretary : Taleigao Chess Academy 2451143/9326132702. (Shrikant Vinayak Barve) Secretary : Taleigao Chess Academy 2451143/9326132702
[Goanet] The 920 Crore Expansion Plan of MPT is the main cause of a Port vs people battle.
-- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED. -- -- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Port vs people ? What started off as a minor jurisdictional dispute between the Goa government and the Mormugao Port Trust (MPT) over territorial waters seems to have blown up into a full -fledged fracas between the people of Vasco and the Port. The very fact that all three MLAs representing the port town, cutting across party lines, have thrown their weight behind the Mormugao Bachao Abhiyan (MBA) — a united front of organisations of trawler owners, barge owners and traditional fishermen, as well as workers' unions and citizens' forums — points to there being widespread resentment against the port administration's expansion plans. The main issue at hand is the plan of the Mormugao Port to shift the existing fishing jetty and trawler anchorage at Vasco Bay, off Kharvewaddo, to a location called Gina Penta at Chicalim. The Port plans to do large-scale reclamation at Vasco Bay to construct berths for ships. Around 194 houses in the area are to be demolished, and the families relocated. The project is estimated to require an investment of Rs280 crore. But the MPT has other major plans too. The 'West of Breakwater' project will reclaim 1.60 lakh sq metres of land on the seaward side of the existing breakwater, to create new berths for ships as well as a rig repair facility, at an estimated cost of Rs200 crore. The biggest project of them all is the 'Baina Bay Project'. This will see one breakwater being built from Baina to Pequeno Island, to virtually create a new port. A total of 6 lakh sq metres will be reclaimed to create an international -size shipbuilding yard, a container transhipment terminal, a berth for cruise ships, a world-class marina and watersports facilities, at a total cost of Rs440 crore. There is more to this issue than just the fear of the fishing community about being displaced. The question is whether Goa's largest city, which already has an acute shortage of housing and infrastructure, can absorb the fallouts of such a colossal quantum of investment. The possible environmental impact of reclaiming close to 10 lakh sq metres of land from the sea is also an unknown factor. Reclamation that changes tidal and river flow patterns sometimes results in severe erosion of the seashore, even in areas far removed. Besides, how will the city react to losing the Baina Beach, which will be off-limits to the people of Vasco once the Baina Bay Project gets underway? There is no gainsaying that the expansion of the Mormugao Port will benefit Goa. As MPT Chairman Praveen Agarwal himself has pointed out, any port exists for the economic betterment of the people in its hinterland. But as we have seen ever so many times, development cuts both ways. Even as it creates great new opportunities, it can also shatter lives and livelihoods. Often, the former is grabbed by the influential and wealthy, while the latter falls to the lot of the common people. The Port administration should seriously consider the concerns of the residents of Vasco and find a way out. There is no need for this to become a battle between the Port and the people. -- HERALD 11/02/08 Editorial page 8 -- -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[Goanet] Facts v/s Hearsay
Message: 8, dated Sun, 10 Feb 2008 from Jose Colaco on subject Re: [Goanet] Facts v/s Hearsay being quite interesting I take a quote from his message which reads - But considering that my initial impression might be incorrect, I wish to draw attention to the following: Sabina Martins of Bailancho Saad shared her experiences during her visit to the violence affected areas. We would also like to thank Vidyadhar Gadgil for sharing his documentation on the communal violence, Arun Pandey for insisting that I do the investigation and to Preetu Nair for introducing us to some people who proved invaluable to our investigation. I wonder if we can get a word or two directly from Sabina Martins, Vidyadhar Gadgil, Arun Pandey and Preetu Nair. 1: Do you agree with this report? 2: Can you share the 'documentation' that was shared? Is Jose Colaco trying to impress upon Goanet that Sabina Martins, Ramesh Gauns, Vidyadhar Gadgil et. el. were factually present on the day of incidence that took place at riot affected site? Were their dispositions to commission not hearsay dispositions? If so how can a commission or for that matter even court can accept hearsay statements as factual truth? One should not forget, that court prefers real evidence direct from witnesses of what someone saw, not that they were told by someone else. In practice, hearsay is when someone else tells you: this usually includes the instructions from the police or ones instructing solicitors, Hearsay is signaled by the words alleged or allegedly. Fact finding report may represent hearsay, facts, opinion, and conclusions in that order in separately identified sections and if the said report is full with only hearsays rather than facts than the so called report has no place in the eyes of law. This is exactly what has happened with independent commission report appointed by one community to divert the attention from factuality. The involved complexity at the riot prone area was so complex that even one man commission of Nikhil Kumar appointed by Congress Government headed by Pratapsingh Rane than CM, concluded saying - it is intuitively and logically reasonable to presume that there was a pre-planned and pre-conceived orientation to the communal riots but in the absence of any tangible evidence, it is not possible to identify or pinpoint the actual persons or organizations responsible for it. However I must highlight the failure of the police, village panchayat, and other governmental authorities in nipping such situation in the but before they go out of handtherefore I suggest remedial measures to prevent such incidences from occurring in future. Therefore this probe indicts none. The Congress lead government accepted the report only not to act on it!! So after this two commissions finding is there anyone in the net willing to initiate fresh fact finding exercise? such persons are most welcome ..lets try and fix the culprits!! OR still interested into finding or asking self styled persons as to what hearsay things they had disposed before the independent commission appointed by one community to divert the attention from factuality? Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Drum roll please, the hordes are coming
To Goanet - We read now that the North Indian migrants have left cities and towns across Maharashtra after the ongoing upheaval there. Guess where many of them are going to take the Konkan Railway to? Why, naturally to amchem sobit Goem. The trashcan of India, the bottomless receptacle of India's refuse. While Goans conduct animated 'debates' on whether ghati is a derogatory word, we will soon have: 4 kulfiwallahs per Goan, 5 icefruitwallahs per Goan child, 10 sugarcane vendors per Km of highway, 15 paanwallahs per village, and burgeoning colonies of fruitwallahs flies. Fred Noronha will be delighted. Imagine all the seminars we can have about the subalterns and the resulting opportunities to attend conferences abroad. GTDC's new slogan: Welcome to Goa, India's spittoon by the sea. Regards, r Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] The Indian dharma of DIY lawmaking
Jug Suraiya in TOI, 12/2/08. All Indians... are enthusisatic law makers...In all our day-to-day transactions we are constantly being motivated ...to follow a do-it-yourself [DIY] policy as far as law-making goes... Never in the history of jurisprudence have laws been made with such breathtaking speed and panache...How is it that some people... think of us collectively as being unruly and lawless? What such critics have failed to grasp is our deep and ancient philosophy of dharmic plurality: you must follow your dharmic path and I must follow mine and -- by golly-- not either/or but both are right foreign concepts of law are premised on a straitjacketing, one- size-fits-all frame of reference.. an outmoded Newtonian view...as distinct from the more advanced and evolved Einsteinian or relativistic understanding of the way the cosmos works. .. Regrettably there are some obscurantists even within this country -- like the EC, human rights activists, the judiciary by and small, if not by and large --- who are unable to take such an eclectically elastic view of legislative activity In a true democracy everyone should be a legislator... In brief, everyone can and should take the law into their own hands to the extent possible for the sake of our democracy! Goa can set a good example, right?
[Goanet] Disgraceful, dishonest attacks
Dear Dotor Jose Colaco (JC), This has reference to your message No 11 dated Sat, 9 Feb 2008 as is appeared in Goanet Digest, Vol 3,issue 164. From this posting I picked up part of your message wherein you used my name. You wrote in your above message: I'd say that GoaNet has been significantly enriched by the Bhandares and Barads of this world. They provide balance to the Judes, Gilberts and the Bernados - also of this world. Wish they would not repost propaganda from the blatantly prejudiced sites - without checking for possible veracity or possibility. Of what is hearsay? In reply to your message TAKE TWO: 1. Why are you using plural stance in addressing name of an individual as Judes, Gilberts, Bernados, Barads Bhandares? Is it a new style of adding S to name and or surname of the individual...to express one's hatred? 2. How do you locate or differentiate prejudiced sites, veracity of site, and hearsay sites? For every site says they are not biased, they represent actuality, and that they don't upload any hearsay on their site! Can you please through some light on these aspects! I'm sure your response will make pleasant reading to Goanet. OR is it the case of pickle..one likes it..other hates it giving excuses like its too salty, more pungent, excess vinegar as spoiled the taste and like wise!! Most importantly, I pen my messages to Goanet and or articles to local dailies as I feel deem fit and to the best of my reasoning that too after reading books, published articles / columns and also after referring to the wealth of knowledge available in the net, without even bothering or fear of any person and or any political party who are likely to raise hundreds if not thousand queries. Secondly I don't write to make any propaganda nor have I yet taken any platform of any political party or religion. While concluding this message I can say with confidence that our Goanet members are much more intelligent than you and me..they know which messages to read and which messages not to read! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] I am a chief Minister, possibly the poorest Chief Minister of India?
Could it be that this is a signal to the Government of India, Tripura is seeking Independance? John Monteiro --- JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MANIK SARKAR Chief Minister of Tripura (A 60 member Assembly state of India). --
Re: [Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and Ghantis
Dear Daisy, Thank you for your nice note, and disagreeing agreeably :-). It was a pleasure to meet up the other day, after years of reading your name and following the work both you and Edwin have put out (including the moderately-priced and very informative Goa restaurants guide, which I have found enormously useful and regret that it is currently out-of-print). Incidentally, I think we can fight back competition by unhelpful, defensive rear-guard actions or positive moves, and your book to promote Goan food is a useful step in the latter direction. Now to get to the debate On 12/02/2008, Flower2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick, Yes, in migration is as old as the hills in Goa, but I think everyone will agree, that in the past, Goans have assimilated migrants quite graciously. I Quite graciously? That's an understatement if ever there was one. Let me tell you why. The story of Goa's aboriginals is one of colonialism. Of course, this is not a view you are likely to encounter in the English-speaking rarefied atmosphere of Goa (or even in Konkani, maybe hints of it in Marathi occasionally), because the people who dominate the chattering classes (and control the hegemony over ideas) are people like you and me and not (yet) the Gavada, Kunbi, Velip or Dangar. We need to ask them what they felt about being swamped by later waves of migration, which took over their most fertile lands and sent them to desolate and dusty hillsides where their populations are still found. The story of past Goan migration is also told in old-time legends and myths -- like the story of Parashuram, which has it that the Brahmins were asked to settle here after slaughtering the Kshatriyas! So much for gracious assimilation! Contrary to the saffronised rewriting of Goan history, not all who migrated out of Goa did so to flee the Portuguese religious bigotry. Outmigration has taken place even before 1510, and while it's fashionable to blame Islamic rulers too today, there have been other reasons, including caste-based infighting. When I spoke to leaders of the Goan (largely-invisible) Kunbi community in Kerala, [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudumbi] they claimed their community size is about 500,000 today. Even if this is an exaggeration, it gives some hints of the reality. think we have to understand why Goans have suddenly taken to chauvinism as you put it. Could it be that the migrants are now descending in overwhelming numbers? Perhaps there is no question of assimilation now, because Goans are As Floriano has acknowledged, after some zig-zagging on the issue, it's because Goa's political class, its business lobbies and its intelligentsia have all taken on themselve to point to the outsider menace as the cause of Goa's many complex problems (quite a few of which should be blamed on these classes themselves). being drowned by the waves. You may have a point as you said at the Goenkaranchem Daiz meeting that Goans are not competitive enough, but here in Margao, I have seen the cartels that the out of state migrants have quickly formed with regard to other traditional trades. They have marginalised outmanoeuvred the naive Goans and taken over. As I see it, the Are their Goan cartels as migration studies byStella Mascarenhas-Keyes, Dr Teresa Albuquerque and even the recent Burma-book edited by Yvonne Vaz-Ezdani (disclosure: I have a link to the book) suggest? Why are Goans failing to tap work and opportunity in their own land? My view is that the crisis is far more serious, and if we keep pointing to red-herrings like in migration, then we're going even further away from a solution. Goan is a gentler breed than that hailing from other parts of the country - Every community needs to have some 'victim status' if it is to take on battles which have little logic behind them. all that is fast changing now that the natural Goan graciousness has been exploited to the hilt by migrants ( and here I do not refer only to the poorer classes) of course in cahoots with our politicians. Goan-versus-NonGoan is too simplistic an equation. I agree, there are exploiters and exploited. And there's no one-to-one congruence with genetics, ethnicity or place-of-birth here. Today, they are well on the way to being the major stakeholders, while the Goans become homeless wanderers. If they have come to make a livelihood, I don't think anyone has a problem. But when as in Sancoale, the population of outsiders is 9000 vis a vis some 4000 odd of the Goans, then the balance of power tilts and control and the decision making process falls into outside hands. Little wonder then that Deve Gowda sees great political potential for himself in Goa. Sancoale is one extreme. But can't we understand it as the colonisation of Goa by Goans? Who passed on the land to the Zuari's there? (Some whose surname I share, I believe?) Who was the chief minister of Goa then, and what was behind his agenda of merging Goa into Mahasthtra?
[Goanet] FR Concessao Da Silva, Konknni Bhaxecho (Romi Lipi) khambo.
13.2.2008 Aiz Manest Padri-bab Concessao Da Silva-hancho zolmancho Dis. Padri-bab Concessao, ek Dhormik Munis assunui, Goychea Somaza-khatir ani Goyenkaran-chea boreponnam khatir vaurtat.Tantunt ek tancho vhoddlo vaur mhunllear, Konknni Romi Lipi-sovem onit ghoddlea ti onit kaddun uddoupacho vaur. Tankam, amchean khoreponninch, konknni bhaxecho ek mozbut khambo mhunnlear zata. Hanv Padri-bab Concessao-ank , ek lamb auk anvddetam. Devan tancher, ani tanchea vauracher sodanch bessaum ghalchem. A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU...FATHER Wilmix Wilson Mazarello ( Convenor, Romi Lipi Action Front)
[Goanet] Footpath Poet at the World Book Fair, New Delhi 2008
World Book Fair, New Delhi 2008 and the Footpath Poet -Brian Mendonça Poets are the soul of a country. Sometimes they can also be treated as pariahs by a country. As if self-publishing my book of poems 'Last Bus to Vasco: Poems from Goa' (2006) were not enough, I was also warned not to display it at the World Book Fair by the organisors the marshals of the National Book Trust who were scouring the various halls. All they needed of me was Rs 38,000 for a weekend since I work on weekdays. They said they could give me a concession. I had priced my book, inclusive of audio CD, at Rs 150. The day the World Book Fair opened in New Delhi, was also the opening day of the Carnival in Goa, 2nd February. I put my Goa T shirt in the biting cold and packed some books in my canvas bag. None of the stalls at the 14 Halls had a 5 x 8 space on their racks to display my book. I sold one book to an ex-colleague at one of the stalls. Having been listed in the India chapter of the international Journal of Commonwealth Literature (December 2007), cut no ice with a prominent distributor who I went to see at Daryaganj. See me in April, he had said, We dont take new books in the current financial year. Ill do my best for you. So on the following Saturday morning, on the penultimate day of the Book Fair, I decided to brave the odds. If only to prove something to myself. To prove I had some space in this ancient land, however tiny, which would bid me welcome. The carnival was over. I was also buoyed by the exuberance of the Kolkata book fair, which had artists selling their paintings on the lawns, and where I had once played the guitar. This 'nasha' (spell)was sadly lacking at the World Book Fair. I packed the foldable wooden minitable I had picked up from Tilonia, the Barefoot University in Rajasthan and decided to display my book on the footpath. As I steadied it on the footpath opposite hall No 1, I covered it with the beautiful off-white crochet doily I had bought at the Mapusa bazaar a tribute to so many Goan ladies who had spent their lives knitting. On top of that I placed the 16 postcards of Goa done in sepia by Mario Miranda all around the doily. These were a collection made possible by Museums of Goa, Salvador-de-Mundo, Goa. On top of that went 10 books with a stand on which I displayed one book. At the end of the 3 hours that Saturday from 2 pm to 5 pm I had sold 5 books. After 5 pm the wind grew cold and the sunlight was receding. The exposure was thrilling to say the least. A publisher friend from Agra bounded across to meet me saying he was keen to know what 'junoon'(madness) it was that made me sit there. A bevy of young female journalists thrust their ID cards in my face and said Sir we would like to ask you some questions. They opened with, Why are sitting here? I said, To display my book Because they wont let me do that inside. We have been watching you. Many people just walk past. Does it bother you? they persisted. I replied No, I am here to display my book. It is a shame that Goa has no presence here at the Book Fair, at the State Pavilions at Pragati Maidan, nor at DelhiHaat. I am doing what little I can. Besides, these books already have clients abroad in the UK and Canada. It was wonderful how the footpath, wiped clean by some dexterous sweepers, began to exert its own energy field once the books were placed there. How its quiet space made the world book fair more egalitarian. A world with a human face where those left out could cock a snook at those ensconced right inside. People who stopped for an ice cream at the stall nearby looked at me curiously. Others, exhausted after doing the rounds just plonked down beside me, for want of a proper space to sit. An elderly gent from Chennai gamely sat on the footpath beside me and shared his nostalgia with me for his hometown and I exchanged notes with him about my recent trip to Coimbatore and Mamallapuram. Suddenly that wee space became a mini-India where I was embraced by the warmth of India and its people. A teenager came up and browsed through the book very thoughtfully. When he was joined by his friends he said in Hindi, He is asking for Rs 150. It was apparent he could not afford the sum. Ask him to lower the price his friend suggested. The boys answer still rings in my ears, He is a poet. He is free to quote his price. He resignedly gave the book back to me. I asked how much he was willing to pay. With great effort he took out a crisp note of Rs 100 and gave it to me. And walked away with the book. What humbled me about my experience was that I could know my readers on a one to one basis, and what my poems meant to them. It is unfortunate that prominent publishers in India today do not publish fresh new Indian poets writing in
[Goanet] My blog on EPW article on Goa
*Comments on The Konkan Packaging Company of Goa* From original sin to miracles Philip S. Thomas The queer B-schoolish title, Konkan Packaging Company of Goa evokes in a casual reader either the obscure Konkan Railway Corp or the Container Corp of India or, at a stretch, Honeymoon Travels (P) Ltd (the hit film from Bollywood). Actually the article seems to be about the parceling of Goa's scenic land - big time in recent years and, by implication, fraudulently-- for real estate development. The overly clever title itself is of a piece (a minor one) with the generally trivial or stereotyped press Goa gets in national media but that is another story. Be that as it may, my present purpose is to focus on the snide point buried by the author in the middle of his article in shoot-and-scoot fashion as follows: No doubt a collection of historical and cultural curiosities have shaped popular ideas of Goa, and one of the dominant ideas currently is that of Goa being easily consumable. What is to blame? Certainly some of the factors include the air travel boom in India (Goa's Dabolim airport is amongst the 10 busiest in the country) which has helped turn Goa into a weekend agenda for part-time residents and annual holidaymakers. Among the historical and cultural legacies about ideas of Goa is the one of The Rome of the East. Given this, it is surprising that the author has not resorted to the concept of original sin in the chronic Goan game of apportioning blame for the existing sorry state of affairs. If he had done so he would well have concluded that the handing over of a civilian airport to the military (specifically the Indian Navy) after Liberation in Dec 1961 is the prime source from which a lot of Goa's governance troubles may have flowed, albeit unintentionally. No doubt there is an air travel boom in the country with the dawning of the 21st century and no doubt Goa's beaches, woods and rivers are a big attraction for Indian and foreign tourists. In the opposite direction, locals like Goswami are benefiting from increasing - relatively low fare and speedier - air connectivity to distant points in India like Assam (albeit via Hyderabad and Kolkata). But to baldly say that Goa's airport is amongst the 10 busiest belies the fact that it is steadily slipping in national aviation rankings and is even on the verge of being squeezed out of the Top Ten. This is because the runway has, no doubt, been steadily expanded over the years to a jumbo jet-friendly one about 10,000 feet long. But the aircraft parking and passenger terminal spaces have not kept pace, due to the stranglehold of the military and the myopia and/or inertia of the state and central governments. Furthermore, airline landing slots were largely confined to the non-peak afternoon hours since the peak morning slots were blocked for military flight training - by aircraft designed to operate from 700 foot decks of aircraft carriers. The resulting congestion evokes Heathrow in some imaginative people's minds. And the loss of half the Navy 's strike aircraft purely to routine sorties doesn't help the base's reputation as a premier training centre. The original sin was compounded (perhaps without compunction this time) in the 1990s when the Indian Navy began a massive project, called Seabird, 100 km to the south at Karwar where its next aircraft carrier is to be based. But there is no priority to build an air station there to which the training flights can be transferred from Dabolim to release the slots for scheduled airline use. Instead the Navy is backing the civil aviation ministry's plan to build a futuristic new PPP airport at the extreme northern tip of Goa since it will result in the mandatory closure of the Dabolim civil enclave (and reversion to the military in full). This will be a tragic replay of the severe cost and access problems currently looming at Bangalore and Hyderabad for air travelers at their farcical airport non-systems. In this difficult situation the Goa government has opted for a two-airport solution that has been approved in principle by the ICAO itself (that too on second thoughts and after some politically threatening agitation in Goa which barely predated - in 2005/06 -- the ones the author has focused on). But its materialization and sustainability over the next few decades will, in itself, be a minor miracle, to use common sense and a common local theological expression. To cut a long story short, how is governance in a small, scenic and secluded state to be efficaciously carried out when an obdurate military is ensconced in the airport on undiscussable security grounds and marches to the beat of a different drum? Airports, after all, are the commanding heights of modern socio-political economies especially those like Goa's which are based on tourism. The author's flippant remark in the core of his article betrays surprising ignorance of the complexity of the fundamental factors at work or constitutes a mental block
Re: [Goanet] LIsbert D'Souza S.J.
Thank you. Dad and mother were very dear friends, not open to revision ! Eric. Hubert D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Eric Just a small correction to the Goanet website below regarding my brother Lisbert. Lisbert was never in Spain for Philosophy and neither did he do his Ph.D in Chicago. He did his Ph.D in Philosophy in England. He taught Philosophy at the Goregaon Seminary and De.Nobli college, in Pune He also served as Provincial-India before going to Rome. Thank you Hubert D'Souza (Lisbert's brother) Toronto, Canada eric pinto ericpinto2 at yahoo.com ouza%20%20S.J.In-Reply-To= Wed Jan 9 13:17:45 PST 2008 * Previous message: [Goanet] Researching the Research 067581.html * Next message: [Goanet] Freddyberg U, ALsace-Pomerania. 067587.html * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Carona, Aldona. Born in Bombay, St. Marys School ( Jesuit ). Seminary- Philosophy, Barcelona, Spain. Ph.D., Chicago. He once served as Provincial in Bombay, and has been Assistant to the Society General in Rome for several years. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] Update on PIL concerning the city of Panjim
To Goanet - Translated from today's Tarun Bharat (Feb 13, 2008): * Headline: Panjim to Adopt Year 2000 Plan for City - Govt Assures Court To preserve the character of Panjim city, the plan mooted in 2000 will be revived, the govt assured the High Court today. The High Court ordered the govt to submit its plan of action by March 5 in response to the set of complaints submitted by Panjim resident Rajan Parrikar. The CCP and Health dept did not provide answers to the High Court. The Court was not satisfied by the answers furnished by the other respondents, and has now issued an ultimatum to the concerned authorities. * Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[Goanet] Beware: Black Gold will turn their future black
An account of the impact of iron ore mining on the Tribal Communities in Goa by Mihir Bhonsle of NCAS, Pune. Read more at the below links: http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/02/beware-black-gold-will-turn-their.html Seby _ Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=220
[Goanet] ENCOURAGE GOANS TO COME BACK TO GOA
ANTHONY (NRI Goan) wrote: Government must give 100% Reservation For Goans in Government Sector and 75% Reservation For Goans in Private Sector. Then I am sure, many Goans who are working Abroad and other parts of Indian States will come back to Goa to work settle in Goa. By this Policy, Goans Majority, Identity Culture will remain intact. I would like to add couple of more points. 1. regarding age limit criteria for Government or Private sector jobs. The returning NRIs/NRGs who would like to work back in India / Goa should get relaxation in age limit for applying Gov/Private Jobs back in their home country. I remember many people who had to return to Goa during invasion of Kuwait could not get jobs in Goa as many had crossed eligible age limits. There are thousands of Goans working in Gulf countries who do not have substantial savings even after working for number of years due to very high cost of living in these countries particularly those who brought their families with them as they have to part major amount of their earnings for expenses such as house rent which is very exorbitant here in Gulf countries in addition to vehicle maintenance, food and children's school fees and other. 2. Secondly you need a huge capital to invest in business activity here in Goa. If security/Guarantee requirements are relaxed in obtaining Business loans would also be very helpful for NRGs to start their own small venture in their motherland Goa. Regards Vinay
[Goanet] God and you
Dear Brothers and sisters Today's gospel speaks about temptations of Jesus Christ. We have three things in this. First is Jesus Christ -representing an ordinary man yet with the power of God -God himself second we have the devil and third we have the earth. God allows devil to tempt Jesus for He has given Jesus to us as an ordinary man and so can be tempted. Make these stones into bread- Many times we think about the earthly food, earthly money- try to make provisions. We try to convert stones into bread meaning convert the earth into money. This is applicable in today's life. God has created hills for its purpose, fields for its purpose and trees for its purpose.Man wants to convert these into money by cutting trees, destroying fields and forests. We are trying to bring disaster into our life. Man does not live on bread alone but by the word of God. IN today's life man rally aborbs the word of God. In that our way towards salvation hasbeen mentioned. God himself has given the ten commandments which Jesus has modified into two which are more than enough yet we find it so difficult. The ancient christians lived by love. They built houses under one roof, helped one another at the time of need. During the wedding time each family would loan out something or other. Labour was free, halls were free as peiople built temporary areas outside their houses. People from the locality took part in the wedding and enjoyed for several days.Today we have become so self centred. We have weddings in rich environment, invite only the ones that are of our nature,. Many times relations and neighbours are left out. The whole locality does not take part in the celebration which mostly is expensive celebration but without quality. Today even funerals have become comerciallised and many times the body of the dead person is not at home .Many times we do not feel any loss. human beings have become mechanised.we are trying to convert stones into bread. We forget about the religious aspects of the wholething. In another place the devil shows Jesus the entire city with all its riches. Adore me andyou take this. Today we are not worried about adoring the true God. In fact we have no religion which Jesus Christ has created with his blood. we adore the devil to get his riches, to get his legacy. bribes, unwanted perks, etc etc fills our hearts with pleasure rather than bowing our heads to God the Almighty and like Mary says here am I , the handmaid of the Lord tell me your plan and I will follow it. I shall adore only my God. The choice is yours albert _ Post ads for free - to sell, rent or even buy.www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=186
[Goanet] Why Religion is not a private matter
It is commonly acknowledged that both religion and sex are a private matter. I contend that neither sex nor religion are a private matters. Imagine if you will, a couple privately engaging in conjugal bliss somehow manage to emit a nauseous gas while doing so, surely their indulgence cannot be at the expense of their neighbours. What if their sex acts involve the torture of small animals? Would we object? What if in a country of one billion people, their private acts produce 10 children per family? Would we be disgruntled to say the least? Last year, Christians felt sufficiently enraged to picket infront of Salman Khan's house in protest of an objectionable piece of art intending to be purchased by him. Obviously, Salman Khan killing innocent pavement dwellers and poaching innocent animals, did not sufficiently incense Christians to protest. I am always amused by Muslims, who will think nothing of their entire female populations being denied the right to vote, the right to an education, the right to work and yet cartoons by a Danish cartoonist are grounds to go on a global rampage. No, my fellow Goanetters, neither religion nor sex are a private matter and our sensibilities in this area are utterly misplaced. Imagine being denied penicillin, or hydro-electricity, or roads because the technology or know-how is not available in that country. We would do our best to address that disparity and acquire the technology. Yet, we are quite content to live in disparity and disequilibrium caused by the absurdities propped up in the name of religion. This is cowardice of the most pure kind. If we are to survive then we must muster all the courage and conviction we have and speak up, speak out and speak against all that is wrong within our own religious dogmas as well as that of others. selma Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Witnessed another drowning death..
Witnessed another drowning death.. Last one was on 31st Dec. 2007 at Miramar. This time we came to Panjim for a preview of Sobit amchem Goem video.. As we were walking in the Art Park, some boys (probably the boatmen/Canoe) told us a man just got drowned in the Mandovi river opp. Dempo House. We rushed to the spot, the incidence took place just 20 minutes ago around 4.45pm. (13.02.08) The deceased body immediately started floating and watched by many from the Extended footpath opp Dempo House/close to belpuri gaddas. Police came around 5.20 followed by fire brigade but it was the police canoe boat rescued the survivor (at 5.30pm) who was standing in knee deep water under the extended concrete platform opp Dempo House (see pic). The survivor was there for about an hour in the water watching his friends floating body drifted to a distance of 150 meters. Around 5.40 the body was brought ashore by the police boat/canoe (about 150 metres from the drowning scene near the boats as seen in the pic) The deceased is from Bangalore, in his 30s and appeared to be a Christian as Rosary was seen around his neck. His friend confirmed that they were both drunk and that they were in Goa for just one day. He also said he cried for help but none came to rescue his friend despite there were so many boats just about 100 meters away. He also said (with tears rolling down) his friend was a good person and that he immediately jumped but unable to rescue him as he could not swim and took shelter under platform. According to the eyewitnesses, they say the deceased climbed other side of the fence (facing water) see pic to urinate but suddenly lost balance and fell into the river and immediately drowned and his body shown up in seconds. The pics.. Dempo House, the survivor and the place from where the deceased fall http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2263479924/sizes/l/ Place from where the deceased fell and the near by boats http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2262689501/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/226347/sizes/l/ The barracudadiving boat (close-up) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2263479134/sizes/l/ Police rescue boat Canoe http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2263479294/sizes/l/ the rescued seen onboard http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2263479448/sizes/l/ finally, the deceased, the survivor, police etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2263478716/sizes/l/ MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Sobit Amchem Goem Video
Sobit Amchem Goem Video http://youtube.com/watch?v=IMemosPoocU or http://ishare.rediff.com/filevideo-sobit-amchem-goem-video-id-116578.php There was a preview of the video SOBIT AMCHEM GOEM organized by FILM BEAM in association with Department of Art and Culture, Govt of Goa. Directed by Dharmand Vernekar. SOBIT AMCHEM GOEM is a visual musical rendering of goas secular fabric, weaved from the lyrics of the lat Dr. Manohar Rai Sardesai (Mrs. Sardessai seen in the pics) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2262876231/ Singers are: Hema Sardesai, Sonia Sirsat, Sigmund, Prince Jacob, Belinda, Pravin Gaonkar etc etc Participating artistes were to be felicitated by the Chief Minister Digambar Kamat but CM himself did not turn up so also Hema Sardesai, Prince Jacob etc. It was held in the Maquinez Palace, smaller 75 capacity auditorium but more than 50 people had nowhere to seat some seen seated on the steps, the a/c also did not function. The audience (Mrs. Sardesai also seen, front row) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2263665976/ The director and Goan Daily editors etc also seen here http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2263666288/ The video preview http://youtube.com/watch?v=IMemosPoocU or http://ishare.rediff.com/filevideo-sobit-amchem-goem-video-id-116578.php [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
Re: [Goanet] Update on PIL concerning the city of Panjim
Rajan, excellent, congratulations. Shows hard work and perseverance does work. George --- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Goanet - Translated from today's Tarun Bharat (Feb 13, 2008): * Headline: Panjim to Adopt Year 2000 Plan for City - Govt Assures Court To preserve the character of Panjim city, the plan mooted in 2000 will be revived, the govt assured the High Court today. The High Court ordered the govt to submit its plan of action by March 5 in response to the set of complaints submitted by Panjim resident Rajan Parrikar. The CCP and Health dept did not provide answers to the High Court. The Court was not satisfied by the answers furnished by the other respondents, and has now issued an ultimatum to the concerned authorities. *
[Goanet] Act fast to REMOVE picture to Rajan and others
Hi Goanetters, This petition below is the one that I will sign. Others who do not agree with Rajan should have their head examined. ED. --- Rajan P. Parrikar said: Dr. Virgincar, Allow me to strike a dissenting note. I will not sign that petition. Nor will I sign any petition from any Hindu or Christian group that demands curbing of anyone's right of expression.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Dirty Panjim to (Rajan P. Parrikar)
Hi Rajan, I have said before I personally wrote a letter to Porrikar, to take some action to look after the disabled and the blind walking on the foothpath in Panjim. As a matter of fact the foothpaths and roads in Panjim, does need a - 'once over'. NOTHING IS DONE - by either party. If Goa PEOPLE were efficient, there was no need for the NRI's to be given a special ID card to lable them as NRIs and robbed. If a minister goes abroad to study the way, others run their country (like Sardinha did), Sena activists in Goa linked to the BJP take over and make a mess of Goa even more. Porrikar is a snake in the grass waiting to make a mess of Goa, building big projects (like Saddam), for personal glory at taxpayers expense, while the poor are neglected. Are the others any better? As the saying goes, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. This has been proved when Goa gave BJP a chance to rule, it went from bad to worse, some Goanetters have got a short memory. Again, Goa once bitten is twice shy (of BJP). You may be taking pictures. Don't forget, the MLA's in opposition have got a lot of power to question the wrong doings. (so much so that Cameron is making mince meat out of Brown in UK). Why are the Goa MLA's quiet? Do I have to come to Goa to ask them this question? Are the BJP as corrupt as the Cong.? (waiting to do the same, when given a chance - hence the silence?). If given a chance ,YOU too would be out of Goa in a flash. Why aren't you out of Goa? For some people uncertainty is not their best forte, while people like me thrive on it. $25/- in my pocket (that is all the India Govt. would let me bring in 1960) I took the chelange and won. I don't think I would have been able to do that in India. Come back to Goa and do the same? well, many a wise men have said and I agree with them. India changes you - you cannot change India (same goes to Goa). ED. Rajan Said: To that end, every single contribution counts. So again, I invite you to come aboard instead of merely standing on the sidelines, using the keyboard as an antidote for your finger itch. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Goa news for February 14, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Munnabhai gets married - NDTV.com [19 hours ago] The 48-year-old filmstar and Manyata, who have been close friends for last two years, had reportedly tied the knot at a five-star hotel in Goa on February 7 ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtvmovies.com/newstory.asp?section=Moviesslug=Munnabhai+gets+marriedid=ENTEN20080040985cid=1130355407ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Goa CM in Delhi to meet high command - Hindu [Feb 12, 2008] PANAJI: Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat rushed to New Delhi on Tuesday to seek the intervention of the Congress high command to resolve the problem of an ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/02/13/stories/2008021354931400.htmcid=1130667939ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Goa may go beef-less soon - Herald Publications [15 hours ago] Shri Ram Sena, which has intensified its campaign against cow slaughter, now decided that supply of beef to Goa #148; primarily from Karnataka and other States ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8435cid=2cid=1131412928ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Foreigners smitten by Goa village houses - Merinews [18 hours ago] Goa has been witnessing an economic boom. The new-found wealth among village middle-class has made them abandon their oldvillage houses and move to cities ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=129631cid=1131794887ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Delhi team leaves for Goa meet - Delhi Newsline [1 hour ago] New Delhi, February 13 The Delhi Athletics Association (DAA) will field a 27-member contingent in the National cross-country meet to be held at Goa on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Delhi-team-leaves-for-Goa-meet/272567/cid=1132044506ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Paramount Airways to connect Pune and Goa by May 08 - TravelBizMonitor [14 hours ago] By TBM Staff http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/articleDetails.aspx?id=2220sectionid=36name=Top%20Storiescid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Tamil Nadu gain bonus point against Goa - Navhind Times [19 hours ago] Panaji, Feb 12 E Ashwin fired Tamil Nadu to a four-wicket win with bonus points against Goa in their first match of the under-25 south zone inter-state PS ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=021327cid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Goa\'s Pala Flicks launches infotainment series for TV - Indiantelevision.com [10 hours ago] Pala Flicks has been established by Los Angeles Writer-Director Greg Acuna now living in Goa. The company plans on reaching out to creators around the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k8/feb/feb150.phpcid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** Karnataka, Kerala wins bonus points, Goa lose again - Deepika [7 hours ago] In the two other matches, Kerala outplayed Tamil Nadu by seven wickets at the SAG Ground also in Margao, while Andhra Pradesh defeated hosts Goa by three ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG6_sub.asp?newscode=14288catcode=ENG6subcatcode=cid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ *** India Inc turns its back on Goa, blames instability - Economic Times [Feb 12, 2008] PANAJI: Goas contribution towards central excise revenue is on a downward slope. The state will collect Rs 20 crore less this year,thanks to a flight of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/India_Inc_turns_its_back_on_Goa_blames_instability/articleshow/231.cmscid=0ei=iouzR-DdKJ-6qwOZ3PieDQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Act fast to REMOVE picture
Dear Anand, I took up your above humble appeal to my think tank group for consideration. But I was shocked by the unanimous decision passed by the group which reads - let others who have shown concern to M. H. Husain's art do this. We have already resolved what we had to say on his art and his brush..even much before this topic came up on Goanet. This resolution is a full stop to me. So, I am left with only to express my regrets to you Anand and your appeal. I hope and confident that Goanet members, individually and collectively, will consider your appeal favorably. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Policy decision on beach cleanliness given more time
Policy decision on beach cleanliness given more time PANJIM, FEB 13 - The Bombay High Court has granted additional time to government authorities to ensure implementation of the policy decision taken by government for appropriate cleanliness in the city and more particularly on the beaches of Goa. The collectors of both the districts and the director tourism as also the director of municipal administration have been asked to file detailed affidavits by March 5, 2008. A Division Bench consisting of Justice R M S Khandeparkar and Justice N A Britto though granted additional time to the respondents in implementing the policy, did not take lightly apathy on the part of departments concerned while hearing a Public Interest Litigation (PIL) filed by Rajan Parrikar. The High Court also directed proper maintenance of roads, and footpaths without any obstructions and ensure scrupulous compliance of the scheme which was submitted to the Court. In February 27, 2000, government had taken a policy decision to maintain cleanliness of beaches and keep foot paths free of hurdles. http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8484cid=26
Re: [Goanet] Evolution and God (from a Scientist)
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following post reveals the creationist position of a spokesman of one religious organization out of many. There are several misconceptions regarding evolution in this post. *Being a scientist, Dr.Santosh is wrong again. Fr.Vittorio Marcozzi is not holding a creationist position, but that of creative evolution. Creationism (or 'creation science') refuses to accept evolution 'tout court'. Naturally, he will find misconceptions regarding evolution in this post. ...should be ensured in a secular democracy such as India is that such private creationist views and misconceptions regarding evolution are not taught in the science classrooms of public schools and colleges. *Agreed. Evolution should be taught in the public schools and colleges in the subject of Science. Creative Evolution should be taught in the public schools and colleges in the subject of Religion for the Christian students, wherever such classes are given. Creationism should not be taught to Christian students (much less to students of other religions and 'no-religion') either in Science or in Religion. It is biblical fundamentalism. Science is not attempting to prove or disprove God at all. God, by definition a Supernatural Being, is not within the scope of Science, which is the study of natural phenomena. Fr.George Coyne, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, said that placing Intelligent Design (ID) theory alongside that of Evolution in school programs was wrong and was akin to mixing apples with oranges. According to him, Intelligent Design (ID) isn't science and doesn't belong in science classrooms. Intelligent Design isn't science even though it pretends to be, the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a Conference in Florence. If you want to teach it in schools, Intelligent Design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science. Creationists say that the Universe is so complex that it must have been created by a Higher Power. But Intelligent Design (ID) is merely Creationism - a literalist, fundamentalist reading of the Bible's story of creation - camouflaged in scientific language, therefore it does not belong in science curriculum. In his interview to The Tablet, Fr.George Coyne reaffirmed God's role in creation, but said Science explains the history of the Universe. If they respect the results of modern science, and indeed the best of modern biblical research, religious believers must move away from the notion of a dictator God or a designer God, a Newtonian God who made the Universe as a watch that ticks along regularly. God in his infinite freedom continuously creates a world that reflects that freedom at all levels of the evolutionary process to greater and greater complexity, he stated. He is not continually intervening, but rather allows, participates, loves, he concluded. I thank Dr.Santosh for his interventions and sincerely praise him for lifting up the scientific standard of this Forum, though I do not agree with him on several counts. Neither, being a scientist, will he agree with me on the existence of God. Both scientific and metaphysico-theological discourses are needed, with due sensitivity to both 'believers' and 'un-believers'. Otherwise, more questions may be raised than answered... Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (14Feb08)
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Re: [Goanet] Update on PIL concerning the city of Panjim
Great !!! Rajan. Congratulations are in order. God speed and God-Bless to those who risk their leisure time to keep save a few things [at least :-))] for the posterity. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: [Goanet] Update on PIL concerning the city of Panjim To Goanet - Translated from today's Tarun Bharat (Feb 13, 2008): * Headline: Panjim to Adopt Year 2000 Plan for City - Govt Assures Court .com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [Goanet] Hiunduism and Henotheism
Whether you ignore religion or not, Selma, it won't go away. It might, on the contrary, come back and bite you with a vengeance. Can you, for instance, ignore the religious pretences (and pandering of certain lobbies) by George Bush? Or can you pass through Mumbai when some of the nativists in the metropolis decide to whip up hysteria against a section of the population based on religion or region? Someone referred to Karl Marx's much-quoted view about religion being the opium of the people and wrongly attributed it to Stalin. I think the Wikipedia has a fascinating take on this whole issue. *Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opiate of the people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_People And don't forget this: * At the time when Marx wrote this text, opium was legally available in some parts of the world, although there were beginning attempts to regulate, legislate and prohibit its use, sale and production, due to the negative effects the substance had on individuals and society in general. According to McKinnon (2005), there seemed to have been four primary senses which opium could be used as a metaphor in the mid nineteenth century: 1. Opium was an important medicine. It was used as a painkiller or sedative, but also for a wide range of ailments, including combatting cholera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholera. 2. Opium was a keyword for widespread social conflict, particularly the Opium Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars. 3. It was the source of an important 'social problem', one of the first 'public health' concerns, known as 'baby-doping' (giving your child opium to keep them quiet.) 4. Finally, opium was the source of fantastic visions of the 'opium eaters' (De Quincey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_de_Quincey, the Romantic Poets http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_poetry, etc.) I really think that people who have their heart in the right place make a mistake by distancing themselves from religion, and leaving it in the hands of the bigots, communalists, tyrants and dictators to cynically abuse and misuse as they choose! FN Carvalho wrote: --- Fr. Ivo da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *I know that you are not interested in gods. --- Dear Fr. Ivo, You are absolutely right here. I am not interested in God or Gods or Goddesses. To me, they are the products of our primitive mind, the dreams of ancestors who knew naught of the world and the hopes of people who were dependent on the vagaries of nature for their very survival.
[Goanet] Hiunduism and Henotheism
I might go to temple once in a year or two but heart to heart I always pray to god. Equally I don't believe in religion or caste but at the same time I am proud in the religion and caste where I am born though without my choice. I feel others should also be proud in their own religion and or caste in which they are born. But in doing so one should not heart the feelings and sentiments of others. That's what I strongly believe in. With this background, let me once turn myself religious person and explain what I consider Hinduism is and also about Hindu Gods, both these threads have been stretched too long in the on going discussion. The proper name for Hinduism is 'Sanatan Dharma'. Sanatan = eternal Dharma = religion. Thus Hinduism stands for Sanatan Dharma meaning Eternal Religion. Going by eternal principles, Hinduism is God centered. Eternal principles apply to all human beings everywhere where laws of physics exist and work all the time. The healing principle will get to work immediately the moment a little cut is sustained on a finger. No one can tell when this healing principle began or when it will end. It is there existing eternally, all pervading (available everywhere), omniscient (aware all the time and therefore healing principle gets to work when injury is sustained). These simplified examples serve to understand God's power: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. If a great scientist like Einstein discovered or realized laws of physics, Hinduism would call him a great Rishi (Maharshi or Prophet of truth.) Self realized persons like Jesus Christ are called Rishis (Prophet) and their teachings would be readily acceptable to those who properly understand the principles of 'Hinduism'. From the ancient times, many great Rishis achieved self-realization through such practices as meditation and austerities and they realized knowledge concerning Eternal Principles. Their knowledge, taught to disciples, and eventually made available in written form, is known as the Vedas (Ved = knowledge), the scriptures upon which Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism) is based. Accept Hinduism (Sanatan Dharma) most other religion is prophet centered depending upon the lives of some personal founder or founders. Christianity is built upon the life of Jesus Christ, Mohammedanism (Islam) upon Mohammed, Buddhism upon Buddha, Jainism upon the Jinas, and so on. It naturally follows that there must be in all these religions a good deal of fight about what they call the historical evidences of these great personalities. If at any time the historical evidences about the existence of these personages in ancient times become weak, the whole building of the religion tumbles down and is broken to pieces. Hinduism escaped this fate because this is not based upon persons but on principles. Krishna is never considered as an authority of the Vedas, but the Vedas are the authority of Krishna himself. His glory is that he is the greatest preacher of the Vedas that ever existed. What remained was the guidance of people from time to time according to different times and places, according to different circumstances and environments. People had to be guided along the old, old path and for this these great teachers came, with their great sages. The ceremonies and rituals connected with Hinduism (and other religions) are designed to cultivate increased spirituality. The very fountain-head of our religion is in the Vedas (Srutis) which are perfectly impersonal; the persons all come in the Smritis and Puranas- the great Avataras, Incarnations of God, Prophets, and so forth. [Please note: Srutis means revealed knowledge; Smriti means memory, history] Another important thing to note is No religion built upon a person can be taken up as a type by all the races of mankind. Vedantic religion does not require any such personal authority. Its sanction is the eternal nature of man, its ethics are based upon the eternal solidarity of man, already existing, already attained and not to be attained. In connection with does Hindus worship one god or many? In every temple, if one stands by and listens, one will find the worshippers applying all the attributes of God, including omnipresence, to the images. It is not polytheism, nor would the name henotheism explain the situation. The rose called by any other name would smell as sweet. Names are not explanations. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] Act fast to REMOVE picture of PROPHET MOHAMMAD
If Fr. Ivo and Albert can write all they want on Goanet, Selma, I do not see why Ahmed Shaikh cannot add his two bits. Selma do not sign if you do not want to. marie --- Ahmed Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACT -1: Sign the Petition for Removal of Picture DEAR BROTHER AND SISTERS, ASSLAAM O ALAIKUM. I think in respect for the 5 or 6 of us on this site who are atheists and agnostics, Goanet must give us a break, and time to recuperate from these type of postings which have become a regular feature on Goanet. My mind has turned to utter mush reading this day in and day out, so much so that I am beginning to wonder if I have been mysteriously teleported to the 16th century. As a secular forum, Goanet must stop becoming a mouthpiece for such propaganda. selma -- marie
[Goanet] This and that
To Goanet - I read the article The Colonisation of Goa by Rajiv Desai posted here. I have no quarrel with what he has written except to say that things in Goa have gone far more south than what he is aware of. Where the Portuguese could not penetrate, the Indian virus has. No matter how much the master of the cut paste tries to bob and weave with his pinko babble, Goa as we have known it will soon be history. The wretchedness of India has already struck roots here and acquired critical mass. * Several weeks ago in one of my weaker moments, I had dinner at a famous Goan restaurant in Betalbatim. It was terrible, the food and the service. But the curious thing was, most of the waiters were non-Goans. When I asked (in Konkani first and then in English) for an undo, I got blank stares. I resolved then and there that I would refuse to place orders for Goan food with any non-Konkani speaking fellow. Which Niz Goemkar in Goa asks for recheiado in Hindi? It is a disgrace. Same thing happened in Agonda last week. The bhailo who took my order didn't know his undo from gundo. I asked the Goan owner if he couldn't find local Goan boys to staff his restaurant. His response was revealing. He said Goan boys are too demanding. Translation: they want better wages and terms at work. The bhaile on the other hand are available for any crumb you can toss at them. This high non-Goan content in the waitstaff at other Goan restaurants even in south Goa is now the norm. Which begs the question: For whose benefit is the tourism industry in Goa? The taxi trade is the last Goans-only bastion standing but I suspect, not for long. In all the other tourist trades Goans have been out-manoeuvred by non-Goans. Is this what we bargained for when we championed tourism as Goa's economic nostrum? In the past 2 weeks, I have gone to Harmal (Arambol) thrice intending to do some photography of ancient sites on the hill there. And every time I have come back without doing the job I set out for. The sights are too repulsive to stomach. Rows of stalls by ghatis and swarms of low-end white trash. The ghati stalls ostensibly sell trinkets but behind the scenes is a flourishing drug trade, probably with everyone from the panch, sarpanch and the local MLA in on the cut. How in the world could Harmalkars let their beautiful village and beach turn into a sty like this? Yesterday's Tarun Bharat published a couple of pictures of Morjim. The first, of a statue of Lenin erected in front of a restaurant, the second, of a Russian flag hoisted at another location. * The SEZs may be on the low burner for now, but spicy sorportel is cooking elsewhere. Mahindra Mahindra has announced construction of a new engineering college in Goa. My question; WHY? Do we want yet another graduate churning factory of, for, and by the third-raters? But that is not all. Herald reports that some company called Panaroma wants to open up a Jungle Resort in Goa. Tarzan bundolo. Me Jane, you Fred. * Finally - I was at the secluded, virgin beach of Canaguinim last week. I had climbed the rocks and was taking photos when I saw a couple of fellows motioning me to come down. They had a hostile, menacing manner about them, and demanded to know who I was, why I was here. My response in Konkani didn't make a dent. They wanted me out, and out fast. Finally I pulled out my Matanhy card and told them I was part of the man's team on GMAS etc. It worked like a charm and there was a dramatic turnaround in their mien. I immediately became Sir and profuse apologies ensued. They said that they thought I was here to scout for land. I told them I was delighted they had taken the approach they did, and that I wished villagers all over Goa would do the same. That the usual Goan bonhomie has been taken for a big ride by the outsiders, that it is now time to gird ourselves for salvaging the remains. Warm regards, r Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] The M. F. Hussain controversy- A response by Dr Samir Heble
Artists in any sphere are creative people. They are lateral thinkers. They think beyound the square. Our 'normal' socity sometimes may view them as different. I believe that artists , be it writers , film makers, poets etc deserve to use and expand their God given creative gifts. I'd hate to tell a poet what he/she should or should not write. In this sense, I would not like my perceptions of the world to limit his/her creative pursuits. Whilst I agree that some paintings of MF Hussein may have hurt the sentiments of the people , this does not necessarily mean that the painting in itself was bad piece of art. It was how we perceived it , based on our life experiences, our morals and our value systems. A naked woman may mean different things to different people. It could well also mean : a symbol of purity, as pure as the form made by God, untouched , unblemished by earthly matters. She playing the instrument could also symbolise the divinity in a woman spreading sweetness in the world via melodious notes. How elegant and divine. Artists by nature are fearless people. This is because they believe strongly in what they do. That is why often there is friction when their way of thinking deviates from societal ways and norms . We have seen this happening with movies, paintings, novels etc. On this note, I remember Mahatma Gandhi's words. He said before we do any act , we need to ask ourselves : Is this the Truth ? Is it fair to all concerned? Is it going to make this world a better place to live in ? Not everyone may agree with what I've written. And you are well within your rights to do so. And you should be different and be proud of it too.We are all different and God made that with a reason. To add spice to life . To make it more interesting . To help us appreciate the complexities . Here's saying cheers to celebrating our individualities , our creative instincts and recognising and celebrating the at times troubling , yet colurful differences. Dr Samir Heble Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[Goanet] Of Goans, non Goans and ....?
You are right George, I too feel the word ghantis' is derogratory, and we should in a perfect world, all be united through the bonds of humankind. The poor migrants I feel, are victims of a malign political system just as we are. In addition, they are forced into leaving their land for their livelihood, because of the inequitable economic development of this so called federal entity called India. One part of the country, is compelled to bear the brunt of the other lawless and backward region and carry its denizens on their back. Of course the bold and the beautiful who descend upon Goa, are manipulators, who in collboration with our spineless politicians and a toothless administration, do what they please and get away with it. Having got involved in a few campaigns, including the anti SEZ, I feel many people have woken up to the problem and really want to do something, but find it too herculean a task, given the fact that they have to fight against the might of huge moneybags supported and buttressed by the daunting forces of an entire state machinery and ironically the very ones we have voted to power. I don't know whether we have to blame ourselves or the politicians. Speaking of constitutional rights and duties and enforcement of law is just an exercise in political correctness. The actual reality is something quite different. What is lacking is a spirit of justice and equity in the implementation of the laws by the administration . Diana
Re: [Goanet] Facts v/s Hearsay
wrt this from me (Jose Colaco): I wonder if we can get a word or two directly from Sabina Martins, Vidyadhar Gadgil, Arun Pandey and Preetu Nair. 1: Do you agree with this report? 2: Can you share the 'documentation' that was shared? Dr. U. G. Barad wrote: [1]Is Jose Colaco trying to impress upon Goanet that Sabina Martins, Ramesh Gauns, Vidyadhar Gadgil et. el. were factually present on the day of incidence that took place at riot affected site? Were their dispositions to commission not hearsay dispositions? If so how can a commission or for that matter even court can accept hearsay statements as factual truth? [2] One should not forget, that court prefers real evidence direct from witnesses of what someone saw, not that they were told by someone else. In practice, hearsay is when someone else tells you: this usually includes the instructions from the police or one's instructing solicitors, Hearsay is signaled by the words alleged or allegedly. --- jc's response: a: May I suggest that U. G. Barad reads my posts again ...please. If he does so, he just might end up agreeing with me. b: Once again - it would be nice to hear directly - at least - from Vidyadhar Gadgil. My question to Vidhyaghar again is What 'documentation' have you provided this alleged Commission? c: Other questions will follow - some of them along the lines of the questions posed by Dr Barad. d: If Mr Gadgil cannot confirm the veracity of the statements in the documentation he has provided, then I believe that individuals such as this are just as dangerous as the anarchists who reportedly create physical havoc whenever they see an opportunity e: The question to Sabina Martins, Arun Pandey and Preetu Nair remain to be answered. The choice to ignore them of course ...is theirs. jc PS: we can get to this alleged Commission (or is it ...Omission) and its so called Report - as a follow up.
[Goanet] ETHICS AND CORRUPTION
Having monopoly on power and having it for too long breeds arrogance of power and lack of accountability. Stagnation and arrogance of power breeds corruption of which one example is a Communist rule in West Bangal. Similar political culture is being repeated in Goa too. After MGP's debacle most of the time Goa is ruled by unscrupulous Corrupt Congress party except for a short stint of Manohar Parrikar led BJP regime somewhere around 2000 to 2004 during this brief spell Goa was freed from stagnation of power and liberated from past hands of rascals, rogues and free booters at least for a short period. When a certain political party is awarded a domination in power extensively, no matter what it does as long as it maintains specific vote-bank equations, it can lead to nothing but arrogance and brute abuse of power as we have time and again witnessed in Congress rule in Goa. This party is aided by the cast ironed perimeter of the prejudiced mafia of mass Media especially the English one. Congress has been able to promote corruption because it has acquired immunity from public opinion. It enjoys lack of accountability to institutions and people as both have been kept captive and committed to Congress. Media has worked for congress rather than working for people's enlightenment. Vote-bank politics either by minority appeasement or buying the gullible voters with ill gotten money is Congress party has been indulging for years has built a wall of immunity, invincibility and lack of answerability on their part to the voters who have brought them to power in spite of knowing that it is the most corrupt party full of rascals and scamsters. Its fraudulent ant tainted old guard leaders are winning every elections even after known facts of their involvement in scandals. Congress can do anything and can get away with it as witnessed in recent illegal house prorogation incident. It can bend the rules of the game the way it wants It has one set of rules for its own Governments and another for the rest including political opponents. It can openly or selectively breach the spirit of constitution and tenants of democracy for its survival. Regards Vinay
