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Mother of murdered Goa teenager Scarlett Keeling spent year in prison for
cutting man's throat Last updated at 19:03pm on 14th March 2008 The mother
of murdered Scarlett Keeling spent a year in jail for cutting the throat of
a man she met at a party, her son has revealed.

Hal Keeling, 19, said Fiona MacKeown, 43, was jailed for attempted
manslaughter. He added that Ms MacKeown, who remains in India following her
daughter's murder in Goa, confessed to her nine children: "I haven't been an
angel in the past."

The revelation came on the day police served her with a summons under the
Goa Children's Act, which requires adults to provide a safe environment for
a child.

Her lawyer, Vikram Varma, said the summons required Mrs MacKeown to make
herself available at a special juvenile police unit.

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Emotional: Scarlett's mother Fiona MacKeown at court today

"She will have to appear and they will take any kind of action they want,"
said Mr Varma. He said the police had chosen that section of the Act to
harass Mrs MacKeown for exposing corruption in the police.

Scarlett had been staying with her boyfriend, Julio Lobo, a 25-year-old Goan
tour guide, and his two aunts in Anjuna when she was last seen at a bar in
the resort.

Her mother, six other younger children and her mother's boyfriend - who
arrived in November on a six-month holiday - were travelling elsewhere in
the region when Scarlett was killed.

But Mrs MacKeown has said she was naive and trustworthy, but not negligent,
for leaving her.

Today, police said they were willing to to re-open past cases of suspicious
deaths if they received fresh requests.

Yesterday one of the suspects being held over the horrific attack on the
15-year-old in Goa reportedly told police British she had was drugged,
beaten, raped and left for dead.

Mr Keeling said his mother was 18 when she and a friend were accused of
attempted murder. The charge was reduced to attempted manslaughter after a
trial in 1983, and she served a year of a three-year sentence.

He said: "She said she was very naive and a man they met at a party tried to
get his heels into her. Mum said he was into black magic and she freaked
out."

At least 126 foreign nationals have died in Goa in the past two years, 40 of
them British, according to Kishan Kumar, said the Inspector general of
police in Goa.

Some officers, who have spoken on condition of anonymity, say that 10-12
deaths passed off as drowning since last year looked suspicious.

Indian authorities had originally said Scarlett's death was an accident, but
later arrested two people after a second autopsy revealed she could have
been killed.

Investigations revealed the original investigating officer of the case had
deliberately covered up the case and he was later suspended.

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Scarlett poses with an elephant in Goa in the days before her murder

Suspect: Placido Carvalho was arrested last night under three sections of
Indian law - rape, murder and supplying drugs. He has appeared in court
today

The Indian media and lawyers have criticised police for failing in the past
to properly investigate murder cases.

Yesterday more details emerged of how 15-year-old Scarlett, from Bideford,
Devon, died, and as a third unnamed person was arrested yesterday on
suspicion of her murder.

Drug dealer Placido Carvalho, the second man to be arrested in the probe, is
alleged to have broken down and admitted under police questioning that he
forced the 15-year-old blonde to take Ecstasy, LSD and cocaine before a
barman beat her unconscious and raped her near his bar on Goa's popular
Anjuna beach.

Detectives believe that Scarlett, whose mouth was filled with sand, and had
been rendered helpless by a cocktail of drugs and the beating, then died in
a shallow beach pool.

Details of the shocking death were revealed today by Inspector Kishan Kumar
as Carvalho, 48, was remanded in custody by a court for 14-days on suspicion
of supplying drugs, assault and murder.

Insp. Kumar said Mrs MacKeown could still be investigated for leaving her
daughter at the resort while the rest of the family travelled elsewhere in
India.

The officer also revealed that the policeman who originally handed the
investigation into the death and said Scarlett had drowned as part of an
elaborate cover-up had been suspended.

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Samson D'Souza, who has been charged with Scarlett Keeling's rape

But despite the revelations Fiona MacKeown, whose suspicions her daughter
was drugged and murdered led to a second post mortem that confirmed her
worst fears, said she believed police were still covering up aspects of the
crime to protect powerful drug dealers operating along the popular Goan
coastline.

"I believe the people arrested are the small fish," she said. "I do believe
they were there that evening with my daughter and I believe they probably
drugged and raped her - but I do not believe they were the only ones
involved.

"Ther

[Goanet] Framework to Interview Manohar Parrikar on Goanet- Burying the hatchet

2008-03-15 Thread sandeep heble

Dear Dr Anil Desai,

The subject Line of Dr Anand's original post says it all:

"Manohar Parrikar wishes to speak to Goanet".

Had it been otherwise, he would have chosen a different subject line
like Manohar Parrikar's interview or Manohar Parrikar wishes to speak
to the Cybergoans, etc.

These lines too are from Dr Virgincar's original post.

" I have requested Manohar Parrikar to record a video interview for
Goanet...and he has kindly agreed.

He will answer questions posed by all of us and the videos will
subsequently be uploaded on Goanet."

The above two lines too clearly indicate that Dr Anand Virgincar
sought Manohar Parrikar's consent to do an interview for Goanet and
only Goanet, that the questions would be posed by Goanetters and only
goanetters and the interview, as and when ready would be uploaded on
Goanet and only goanet, else he would have written *Goanet and others*
.  All other facts gathered are from Dr Anand's and Rajan's own posts
and Dr Anand himself has not denied the same.

I have read, unread and reread all the posts on this subject and I do
not accuse Dr Anand of anything except his inconsistency, i.e. between
the consistent stand he took till he went into a silent mode and the
stand he took in his *final word*. It is Rajan who is the villain in
all this and not Dr Anand. I think I have made that quite clear in my
last post.

Nobody is scared of this venture. In fact, we would love to have
Manohar Parrikar here and we have been very clear about this.  We want
this venture to be a fair exercise and if at all anyone is acting
scared here, it is them.

Dr Anand himself wrote in the past that the Interview would be fair if
a group of moderators would prepare the final list of questions and I
quote him:

" I agree entirely with JC regarding moderators choosing the final
list of questions. My choice is : Bab George Pinto Dr Jose Colaco Dr
Anil Desai Bab Floriano Lobo Dr Rajan Parrikar."

Now, they are singing different tunes altogether. If they are sincere
about all this and they want the interview to be fair , they must
stick to their initial proposal.

Cheers and good wishes
Sandeep Heble

[Goanet] Citizen has right to live anywhere in country: SC

2008-03-15 Thread Goanet News Service


Citizen has right to live anywhere in country: SC


Sending a strong message to the Shiv Sena chief, Mr Bal Thackeray and his 
nephew Mr Raj Thackeray for their anti-north Indian venom, the Supreme Court 
today asserted that every Indian has a constitutional right to settle 
anywhere in the country.


The apex court also expressed anguish at the increasing tendency of some 
sections to indulge in violent protests against films, books or paintings, 
which it said, should be curbed with an iron hand.


"India is not an association of confederation of states, it is a union of 
state and there is only one nationality that is Indian. Hence every Indian 
has a right to go anywhere in India, to settle anywhere, and work and do 
business of his choice in any part of India peacefully," a bench of Mr 
Justice H K Sema and Mr Justice Markandeya Katju observed in a 36- page 
judgment.


The apex court made the observation while upholding the Ahmedabad Municipal 
Corporation's move to ban the sale of meat in the town during nine-day 
'Paryushan festival' observed by the Jain community.


The bench's assertion comes in the recent backdrop of the SC comment, that 
it would not brook any Balkanisation of the country.


"We can understand what is happening. We will not allow/permit Balkanisation 
of this country," the court had held on a PIL seeking action against Mr Raj 
Thackeray for his controversial anti-north India remarks.


Mr Justice Sema and Mr Justice Katju said the drafting committee of the 
Constitution had attached great importance to the term "Union" as symbolic 
of the determination of the assembly to maintain the unity of the country.


The apex court said people migrate from "uncomfortable" areas to 
"comfortable areas" in search of their livelihood and other avenues which in 
the interest of the country's unity cannot be curtailed.


"Since India is a country of great diversity, it is absolutely essential if 
we wish to keep our country united to have tolerance and respect for all 
communities and sects.


"It was due to the wisdom of our founding fathers that we have a 
Constitution which is secular in character, and which caters to the 
tremendous diversity in our country," the bench observed.


In an oblique reference to the increasing intolerance to the freedom of 
speech the apex court said some are engaging in violent protests to protest 
"anything under the sun" be it a book, painting or a film.


"These days unfortunately some people seem to be perpetually on a short fuse 
and are willing to protest often violently, about anything under the Sun on 
the ground that a book or painting or film etc. has hurt the sentiments of 
their community.


"These are dangerous tendencies and must be curbed with an iron hand. We are 
one nation and must respect each other and should have tolerance," the bench 
said.


The judgment dealt at length the reign of Emperor Akbar who the bench said 
had banned the slaughter of animals for six months in Gujarat


Referring to the ban imposed by the Ahmedabad civic body, the apex court 
said the Gujarat High Court had taken an erroneous view that the ban 
violated the fundamental right of the butchers to carry out their trade.


"In a multi-cultural country like ours with such diversity, one should not 
be oversensitive and over touchy about a short restriction when it is being 
done out of respect for the sentiments of a particular section of society," 
the bench observed.



http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031561

[Goanet] Argentine Tango and Lindy Hop (American swing dance) sessions in Goa

2008-03-15 Thread


March 27th
Lindy Hop
Tito's, Baga Beach, Goa!
8:30-10pm - Lindy Hop
10pm onwards - Salsa Social
Rs. 200 for the class.

March 29th
Argentine Tango & Lindy Hop with Tim and Malou
Club Vasco Da Gama, Panjim, Goa
2pm onwards - Half-day workshop! Rs. 500 for 6 hours + of instruction & 
practice!


April 1st
Argentine Tango
The Marriott, Panjim, Goa
8:30-10pm - Tango Class
10-10:45pm - Practice
Rs. 200

Argentine Tango, the dance of Love- Seductive, sexy and graceful. This class 
will build your tango from the ground up. We will be using a technique 
developed by the 8th Style School of Tango in Seattle (which Tim helped 
found in 2005) for teaching traditional Argentine Tango techniques and 
steps. Expect to learn how to solidly and comfortably connect with your 
partner, fluidity, and grace in moving together as one. Tango done well 
feels as effortless as floating, and we'll provide the groundwork to get 
there.


Lindy Hop, the Grand-Daddy of Swing dance! What could be more fun than 
learning the dance that started them all? You can read up on the history of 
Lindy Hop here. By the end of this class you'll have a solid grasp of Lindy 
Hop rhythm & musicality, connection, and a grab bag of moves that you can 
pull out on any dance floor. More fun than a roller-coaster at Disney-Land, 
this dance will have you smiling, sweating, and wishing for more!


More information at:

http://lindyhopindia.com/goa.html

Goanet A&E - http://www.goanet.org

[Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans

2008-03-15 Thread Venantius Pinto

Dear Sachin,
It would have helped if you asked specifically which part you did not
understand. I must say that the my grammar in my post is not the
finest. But other than I believe the ideas do come across. In all
probability no one else may respond, so here is what I meant. The
thread as you know began with Jerry Fernandes' query reproduced below.
When that question was asked by JF, "Dear Netters
So what has brought about this sudden rise in the interest of India
amongst the Americans? Is there any truth in this news?" [WASHINGTON
(Agencies)], I responded; answering your vide, "The report indicates
the results of a survey, and unless one says that it is manipulated,
one should take it at face value" I do not need to say it is
manipulated, but since you ask questions in tandem -- SP: "And if one
says it is manipulated, one should give the reasons why one is coming
to such a conclusion," I shall point the general rational behind my
response, and not specific details. I do sense that you feel I am
being irresponsible towards India.

We give our opinions (as if they matter) on a plethora of issues in
this forum. I gave my opinion based on how I viewed JFs question. I
could have made little of it, but too it seriously, and cared to
explain, but also giving examples that force one to think for oneself
-- whether one wishes to do so or not. This is where it begins. I
began by looking briefly at the word "popular" (CAPPED by me in the
excerpt from Jerry Fernandes below), by making an analogy between the
qualities (largely superficial) between a human and extrapolating
those notions (but seeing them deeply and relating them to the country
as an being) onto country  -- in this case India. What I am doing is
attempting to nail down why India is considered as being popular in
the imagination/analysis/or survey of the WASHINGTON Agencies. I also
said, "There are good sides to India, but the USA is comfortable with
an India which is assiduously following its lead on many
issues...(economically motivated) This as well as my examples should
be a response to your point, "There are indeed many faults in the
Indian society, and amongst the Indians. However, one has to see the
broader picture, and this is what those who responded to the survey
have done."

I am not allowing myself to be held in thrall by the pronouncement of
the "popular" for two reasons. First of all, although an Indian I am
not impressed with notions of popularity, and secondly having lived a
life of observation (as have others too) -- the media is the media,
and being the media, seen it(the media) puts out news, including
facts, largely based on the interests of power brokers. So my response
must be seen within this duality.
> India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans
> WASHINGTON (Agencies): India is the sixth most POPULAR country in the US, 
> with 69 per cent of the Americans having a positive image about it, while 
> Pakistan finds itself among the 10 most unpopular nations, according to a new 
> poll. Of 22 countries rated in Gallup's 2008 World Affairs survey, Canada, 
> Great Britain, Germany and Japan win favour with at least 80 per cent of 
> Americans. The top four is followed by Israel at 71 per cent. India ties with 
> France at the sixth spot for the positive image. [GT]

So my picture, is a broad picture, and will always be a broad picture.
My expressive temper may come across as harsh, but it aims for
precision and the splintering of obfuscation or pithy statements,
which we inadvertently absorb into our social identities. India is
complex, and I do understand that, but India like any other country
has its interests and protects or protests based on how our Mandarins
(very important term here) see themselves, themselves as India, and
India as in themselves. So what I am saying is, the label of "popular"
has a plurality of connotations; we should look beyond the denotations
of "popular." I see Indians as reasonably proud people, but I do not
see Indian politicians from the same mould. This is what I am saying.
I am not banging on the proud swadeshi Indian. People like me will
always make connections and analogies that I can only hope others may
see. These are not done casually, are not tormented by any stretch of
imagination, but may just be a bit more visually forceful than the
comfort level in this forum.

Now JF may respond by at least saying he got the gist of what I am
saying, or that it is pure gibberish.

venantius j pinto


> From: Sachin Phadte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans

> I do not understand what Venantius Pinto is trying to say in context of the 
> subject line. The report indicates the results of a survey, and unless one 
> says that it is manipulated, one should take it at face value. And if one 
> says it is manipulated, one should give the reasons why one is coming to such 
> a conclusion.
>
> There are indeed many faults in the Indian society, and amongst the Indians. 
> However,

[Goanet] Shree Damodar College, Margao - First Alumni Meet

2008-03-15 Thread Neshwin Almeida


SHREE DAMODAR COLLEGE OF COMMERCE & ECONOMICS,

MARGAO-GOA-INDIA

FIRST ALUMNI MEET

DATE: 19th APRIL 2008.
VENUE: B.P.S CLUB GROUNDS, MARGAO-GOA
TIME: 7 P.M. ONWARDS

FOR EX-STUDENTS OF ALL BATCHES.

PLEASE ATTEND & REVIVE MEMORIES.

INFORM THE REST.

Re: [Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation

2008-03-15 Thread J. Colaco < jc>

On 15/03/2008, anand virgincar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

1:  Scarlette Keeling's mum has today accused Ravi Naik of being hand
in glove with the drug cartel in Goa.

2:  COME ON RAVI.Go on and file a libel case...we are all with
you ( provided, of course, you or your immediate family have nothing
to hide ).
==

jc's comment:

I wonder whether somehow, we have possibly lost sight of the fact that

1: a 15 year old was raped and was found dead - possibly killed.
2: Goa has become infested by drug dealers and their drugs.
3: this was NOT so until 1966.

A crime (perhaps 2 crimes) has(have) been committed. One which has
plastered Goa negatively in the national and international press.

Whenever LIBEL suits arise, one wonders if we know what that means and
how difficult they are to prove. Furthermore, even if they are
successful - ALL they end up doing is wasting the time of the courts.
This mother, Fiona MacKeown, could hardly be able to pay up costs.

To succeed in any libel suit, Ravi Naik must show not only that the
offending statement is false, but also that Fiona MacKeown either knew
it to be false or did not care whether it was true or not. (The bar in
Indian libel law might be set a wee bit lower)

In any event ... I'd like to use this opportunity to direct our
attention to What the BJP is alleged to have done to Tehelka 
"The saga is a depressing example of how the Kafkaesque weight of
government can be used to crush those who challenge its methods "

please vide infra

jc

(Tehelka) reporters, posing as arms salesmen, had bribed their way
into the home of the defence minister, George Fernandes, and handed
over £3,000 to one of the minister's colleagues. The journalists found
 many other people prepared to take money - senior army
officers,bureaucrats, even the president of the ruling Bharatiya
Janata party, who was filmed shovelling the cash into his desk.

 The scandal was deeply embarrassing for the BJP prime minister,Atal
Bihari Vajpayee. Mr Vajpayee sacked Mr Fernandes and ordered a
commission of inquiry. The scandal promoted a mood of national
catharsis, and congratulations poured in from ordinary Indians tired
of official corruption.

Tehelka, which had only been launched in June 2000, was receiving 30
million hits a week. But the glory did not last.

 "I had expected a battle. But we had not anticipated its scale,"
Tejpal said yesterday. "The propaganda war started the next day."

Nearly two years later, he has been forced to lay off all but four of
his 120 staff. He has got deeply into debt, sold the office furniture
and scrounged money from friends. "They drop by for dinner and leave a
cheque behind."

The website, which once boasted sites on news, literature, sport  and
erotica, is "virtually defunct". George Fernandes, meanwhile, is again
the defence minister.

The saga is a depressing example of how the Kafkaesque weight of
government can be used to crush those who challenge its methods.

In the aftermath of the scandal, the Hindu nationalist-led government
"unleashed" the inland revenue, the enforcement directorate and  the
intelligence bureau, India's answer to MI5, on Tehelka's office in
suburban south Delhi.

They did not find anything. Frustrated, the officials started tearing
apart the website's investors. Tehelka's financial backer, Shanker
Sharma, was thrown in jail without charge.


more at http://www.tehelka.com/home/20041009/new/march/7/ca030703website.htm

Re: [Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation

2008-03-15 Thread Jason Monserrate

COME ON RAVIthe reputation of Goa and Goans is at
stake here.

>>> How many Goans think their reputations are in
the hands of the politicians? If they were, all of us
would be rubbing our noses in the dirt. Is this some
college festival where all of us have to rally behind
the one who is representing us?? 

Get a life, and move on.

Jason






--- anand virgincar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
>  
>Dear Goanetters,
>  
>Please see news links below :
>  
>Scarlette Keeling's mum has today accused Ravi
> Naik of being hand
>in glove with the drug cartel in Goa. Among other
> pronounciations,
>she says :
># Ravi Naik has a STRONG nexus with drug mafia
># Ravi Naik has FULL knowledge of criminal
> activities in Goa
># Ravi Naik does his BEST to protect criminals
>  
>Just in case she does not know :
>  
># Ravi Naik is the current home minister of Goa (
> which,by definition,
>means that he is in charge of maintaining law and
> order )
># Ravi Naik was chief minister of Goa for 2 and
> 1/2 years in the late
>1990's
># Ravi Naik could well be chief minister today
> but for the MGP MLA's
>vetoing the decision by the Congress high command
> in June 2007
>( although how the MGP could have influenced the
> powerful Delhi
>lobby when Digamber Kamat grovels before it is a
> mystery to me )
># Ravi Naik is the undisputed leader of the
> Bahujan Samaj in Goa
>( and probably the greatest leader of that
> community to date )
>  
>COME ON RAVIthe reputation of Goa and Goans
> is at stake here.
>Assuming ( and hoping ) all this is untrue,
> please don't just issue the
>usual standard " denials ". Go on and file a
> libel case...we are all with
>you ( provided, of course, you or your immediate
> family have nothing 
>to hide )
>  
> NDTV
>
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044098&ch=3/15/2008%2010:27:00%20PM
>  
> THE HINDU
>
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200803151859.htm
>  
> THE ECONOMIC TIMES
>
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Scarlettes__mother_alleges_govt_drug_mafia_nexus_in_Goa/articleshow/2868566.cms
>  
> HINDUSTAN TIMES
>
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=6f12de48-1db4-4da1-98bc-
> 
>
70bf183680b5&MatchID1=4663&TeamID1=5&TeamID2=2&MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1173&PrimaryID=4663&Headline=Admn+sheltering+drug+mafia%2c+alleges+Fiona
>  
> SIFY.COM
>
http://sify.com/news/othernews/fullstory.php?id=14622882
>   
> REDIFF.com
> http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/mar/15goa1.htm
>  
>  
>luv and regards,
>anand
>  
>( Dr Anand Virgincar )
>  
>
>
_
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> http://www.searchgamesbox.com



  

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Re: [Goanet] More on Selling Goa

2008-03-15 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- "J. Colaco < jc>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wonder what the above means.
> 
> Does it mean
> 
> 1: Goans resident in India are not Indians
> 2: Goa is not a part of India
> .
> 6: If there are - only the "white" Indians (Varna
> reborn) have good
> civic habits and SOME social consciences
> 7: Manohar Parrikar and the BJP agree with the above
> view points
> 

Hi Josebab,

Perhaps, you are as baffled as I am about this streak.
How can separatism be combined with the Indian
nationalism of the BJP? If there is an agenda here it
is a rather confused one, devoid of any deeper
conviction or practical significance. Otherwise, it
might just be a campaign of opportunistic pandering to
conflicting interests on Goanet.

Cheers,

Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Selling Goa

To Goanet-

Santosh Helekar wrote:
>Lashing out is always a weak emotional response and a
>sign of insecurity. But the good thing here is this

Lashing?  No, baba, no.  Only a glancing blow.

>remark is also an indication of an attempt to save
>face, and at possible recovery from a bad attitude.

An attempt to save face it was, YOUR face.  Sorry
dude, I tried.

Warm regards,

r

[Goanet] Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Sunday 16th March

2008-03-15 Thread Goa Desc

--
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED.
-
--
Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Sunday
--
The Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum (CCCF) will have its
monthly general meeting of consumers on Sunday 16th March
at 10.30m at the Our Lady of Health High School, Cuncolim.

Among the issues to be discussed are proposed Football Academy
mega project, debris dumping along NH17 in CMC jurisdiction,
complaints on Bank of Baroda, need for CMC Road Safety and
Traffic Management Committee, service related problems of  PWD
water supply, Electricity, Bus Transport, Post Office, Cable TV,
LPG cylinder supply by HP Gas, BSNL telephones & preparation
of Identity cards for Senior Citizens.

Consumers of Cuncolim are invited to attend the meeting and
participate in the deliberations.

Message from the Cuncolim Civic and Consumer Forum
(CCCF) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK

promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa

GOACAN Post Box  187 Margao,  Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box  78   Mapusa, Goa 403 507
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

[Goanet] Konkani Film "PADRI" Lyrics By Wilfy Rebimbus

2008-03-15 Thread Kala Mogui Kuwait


"PADRI" Lyrics By Wilfy Rebimbus

Konkan Kogul (Wilfy Rebimbus)

Savio, Julius and Reagan are three brothers in the film 'Padri'. They are 
growing in life under the tutelage of their sister in law. Sister in law is 
like mother for all of the three brothers. Savio intends to become a 
"PADRI", Julius ekes out interest in a business company. Reagan is an 
Engineer.


In this happy living family enters Anushka. She has lot of head weight as 
she is grown up in an aristocratic family. Her uncle is Roldao ala the 
Shakuni of the Mahabharatha. In scheming things and demolishing peace no one 
can beat him. Once he throws the dice it is sure that any ones head roll.


Such a horrible personality Roldao comes to the house of Anushka. In his 
short stay he makes very calculative moves that harm everyone in the family. 
Anushka unknowingly supports her uncle.


What is the plan evolved by Roldao uncle?
What is the background for this plan?
Who are the ones who get shattered in this plan?
What is the end result?
Who is responsible for the Roldao uncle vengeance?

For all these answers, the answer is the biggest movie in Konkani Cinema 
"PADRI" The show will be held in Kuwait on March 28, 2008 at 4.00pm at 
Mashra Al Hawally Auditorium.


In the lead role, male Newton D'Souza (from Goa) and female Arona Fernandes 
(from Mangalore) while the lyrics have been scripted by Wilfy Rebimbus, 
music scored by Papan-Joswin, stunts by Tiger Madhu, cinematography by 
Elukoti Chandru, story-screenplay-dialogues by Prince Jacob, directed by 
Rajesh Fernandes and produced by Raymond Quadros.


For your viewing pleasure the screening on wide screen with digital sound 
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[Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation

2008-03-15 Thread anand virgincar


 
   Dear Goanetters,
 
   Please see news links below :
 
   Scarlette Keeling's mum has today accused Ravi Naik of being hand
   in glove with the drug cartel in Goa. Among other pronounciations,
   she says :
   # Ravi Naik has a STRONG nexus with drug mafia
   # Ravi Naik has FULL knowledge of criminal activities in Goa
   # Ravi Naik does his BEST to protect criminals
 
   Just in case she does not know :
 
   # Ravi Naik is the current home minister of Goa ( which,by definition,
   means that he is in charge of maintaining law and order )
   # Ravi Naik was chief minister of Goa for 2 and 1/2 years in the late
   1990's
   # Ravi Naik could well be chief minister today but for the MGP MLA's
   vetoing the decision by the Congress high command in June 2007
   ( although how the MGP could have influenced the powerful Delhi
   lobby when Digamber Kamat grovels before it is a mystery to me )
   # Ravi Naik is the undisputed leader of the Bahujan Samaj in Goa
   ( and probably the greatest leader of that community to date )
 
   COME ON RAVIthe reputation of Goa and Goans is at stake here.
   Assuming ( and hoping ) all this is untrue, please don't just issue the
   usual standard " denials ". Go on and file a libel case...we are all with
   you ( provided, of course, you or your immediate family have nothing 
   to hide )
 
NDTV
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044098&ch=3/15/2008%2010:27:00%20PM
 
THE HINDU
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200803151859.htm
 
THE ECONOMIC TIMES
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Scarlettes__mother_alleges_govt_drug_mafia_nexus_in_Goa/articleshow/2868566.cms
 
HINDUSTAN TIMES
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=6f12de48-1db4-4da1-98bc-
  
70bf183680b5&MatchID1=4663&TeamID1=5&TeamID2=2&MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1173&PrimaryID=4663&Headline=Admn+sheltering+drug+mafia%2c+alleges+Fiona
 
SIFY.COM
http://sify.com/news/othernews/fullstory.php?id=14622882
  
REDIFF.com
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/mar/15goa1.htm
 
 
   luv and regards,
   anand
 
   ( Dr Anand Virgincar )
 
   
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[Goanet] Cause of Scarlet's Death (updated)

2008-03-15 Thread Gilbert Lawrence

There have been many downloads of press reports - British and Indian - on this 
saga.  A few accounts have reported more details on Scarlett and her family 
across the continents than the local police could investigate.  Yet, some 
reports give us the sanitized and philosophical feel-good aspects of the story. 
 Goanetters have done a good job of tracking these international press 
accounts. 
 
The likely reason Fiona (mother with 9 kids on British welfare) came on a 
six-month stay to Goa, and now wants to come permanently, is because her 
welfare checks go a lot farther in Goa than in Devon, England. With her checks, 
and as a cheap tourist, she likely figures she could even afford a native nanny 
to take care of her brood - Not dissimilar to the colonial British.  And like 
other hippies in Goa, she may even make some money by subletting her shelter, 
providing food, etc etc. to other hippies.  Unlike the authorities in England, 
the laissez-faire system in Goa, (which she abhors), would not be on her back, 
and that of her kids, to live within the law. 
 
The issue raised several times in many press articles is: Who killed Scarlet 
(and few other hippies). The short answer, in response to public pressure, is 
some native miscreants.  Yet, I submit the Anjuna / Goan police, (including 
Inspector Nelson Albuquerque), who have been accused of sloppy police work, 
have figured the answer to this question a long time ago.  The hippies kill 
themselves!!! Likely the local British consulate also may have arrived to the 
same conclusion, and no longer pursue these fatalities. 
 
The purpose of writing this article is to bring to the attention of Goans, the 
effect of drugs and alcohol, as the same chain-of-events can happen to 
non-hippies.  In fact Goans and Indians, whose liver can less effectively 
metabolize alcohol than 'Whites', may be more prone to this chain of events.  
Also the way alcohol is absorbed and metabolized, it affects women more than 
men, and older men more than younger men. This is important, as many 
vacation-packages include an unlimited supply of food and drinks as an 
incentive deal. Many chronic alcohol users have replaced protein and good 
carbohydrates, as their source of calories, with alcohol.  Chronic alcohol use 
(approved and illicit) affects the stomach, liver, brain among other organs.  
 
Reading Tom Rawstorne's article on Scarlett's life and death in the Daily 
Mirror, the chain of events on that fateful night reads: 
 
First the victim consumed "a frightening cocktail of drinks and drugs - LSD, 
Ecstasy and Cocaine" at her newly-acquired boy-friend Julio's home.  The 
boy-friend became sick and decided to stay home for the night. 
Scarlett leaves Julio and goes to the home of a Dutch girl - Ruby - who at 
16-yrs is only one year older than the victim. The two have a few more "Bacardi 
Breezers" along with Beers and Tequila - drinking them in their taxi and in at 
least two bars. According to Ruby, the two girls were "quite drunk".  In her 
prior encounters with the victim, Ruby describes her as "smoking cannabis night 
and day and often looked stone".  Looks like Ruby, concerned about her own 
violations of Goa's laws, is now living in Spain. 
The victim leaves Ruby's house and heads to the beach-bar "drinking, snorting 
cocaine in the lounge and kitchen and talking gibberish."  This is likely the 
victim's last night on the town in Goa as she is soon joining her mother and 
leaving for home due to her brother's accident in England. 
 
Now two Goan guys enter the picture. In the dim bar light, and high themselves 
on alcohol and drugs, forget to ask the drunk-victim for her ID (to know her 
age). Like young men all over the world, they provide her more alcohol and 
cocaine in exchange for sex (or the reverse). Alcohol has a well know effect on 
humans: "Increases the sexual desire but knocks out the performance". It 
appears the drunks repeatedly try to do what they cannot achieve.  At some 
point the Goans give up and head home - very likely not knowing what to do with 
their mate. 
 
So what killed Scarlet and how did she die?  
Answer: Multiple organ failure. Since I am no forensic expert, here is a down 
load from the web on Cocaine.  Please web search the effects of other drugs and 
alcohol.  What Are Cocaine's Effects? The facts about cocaine, what it does to 
a user: 
 
Initial Lift 
Cocaine, which acts quickly, causes initially a sense of well being and 
self-confidence, a surge of great physical strength and mental alertness, a 
feeling of being more than equal to any task or challenge. The user is wide 
awake, feels himself fueled to think, talk, act and work. He does all of these 
rather compulsively. He is "speeding." 
 
The Crash 
A cocaine "lift" is short-lived, however. The peak lasts only 15 to 30 minutes, 
although lesser effects continue up to 2 to 4 hours. After this comes what they 
call the "crash," which is marked by: raw nerves, physical weakness,

[Goanet] Scarlettes death is not an isolated ca se

2008-03-15 Thread edward desilva

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1156130
   
  ANJUNA(Goa): Scarlette Keelings is not an isolated case as Goa Police would 
have us believe. DNA has learnt the police are also investigating a murder 
committed in August 2007 on the same lines of a 15-year-old Canadian girl. 

   
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[Goanet] LIMERICKS FOR THE DAY 38 - GOANET

2008-03-15 Thread Shanti Dhoot

I hear that the members of this forum called Goanet

Live overwhelmingly outside Goa. But let's not forget

They're members because they're fond of their land,

And though outside, we must try and understand

They love Goa and haven't forgotten it  – at least not yet.



If those in Goa are still to be members of this forum,

And unable to prescribe for its ills their own nostrum,

It is because they don't have either a computer,

Or anyone to help them as some kind of tutor,

To join Goanet and vent their views from this rostrum.



I have some tentative ideas how this could be achieved,

But I am not sure how such suggestions will be received.

It's true that I am more than somewhat out of touch,

And about the Goa of today don't know very much,

So I hesitate to say anything that will get old-timers peeved.

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:15:43 + (GMT)
From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] What is Goanet?  Can it influence Goan voters?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

What is Goanet?  Can it influence Goan voters?

What is Goanet?
GOANET  is a NET meeting place for SOME  GOANs spread all over the world,
including India.

Up to 97% of Goanet members live outside Goa/India.

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[Goanet] Fometos Wheel Loader sent back in Colamb

2008-03-15 Thread sebastian Rodrigues


Wheel Loader of Fometos mining company today was sen back when it came to clear 
the illegal road through Forest. Women of the village then met the mining 
company manager and served strong warning signal in case it tries to resume 
transporting the Ore though Forest. Villagers here are exercising their 
constitutional duty to protect Environment and Forest. Mining company is trying 
to bulldoze its way over the Colamb villagers even as the Goa Bench of Bombay 
High Court has admitted the Petition in this regard on March 10 2008. Yesterday 
Forest department and Sanguem Police had stopped mining company from 
transporting the Ore and arrested two persons along with one truck and a Jeep 
seized.

There is long drawn battle going on in Colamb over the destruction of Forest 
and agriculture due to mining industry. There are 23 mining leases in Colamb 
alone covering 1510 hectares of land. Total village land is 1929 hectares. This 
is a situation for large number of villages in Sanguem and Quepem Talukas. 
Protests of the villagers are only rising with passing of every day.

Sebastian Rodrigues


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[Goanet] Goa’s Editors-4: HERALD(Goa), March 16, 2008

2008-03-15 Thread Valmiki Faleiro




GOA’S EDITORS-4
By Valmiki Faleiro

Late-1960s. Goa’s monopoly English daily got too hot for the Sequeiras, the 
opposition
UGP leaders. ‘Papa’ and ‘Baba’ Sequeira set to start their own daily, the ‘Goa 
Monitor.’
They ill advisedly decided on a tabloid format, instead of the regular 
broadsheet, but that
is another story.

Goa Monitor’s top brass was rare. Comparisons are odious, but I cannot resist 
drawing
one here. The MGP-UGP-Janata Party candidates from Calangute in the 1977 
elections
had a common trait: only difference was on the time of the day each would hit 
the bottle.
One began early morning, the other at noon, the third by late evening. MGP’s 
early bird
won the worm and became Minister; UGP’s man whose cheer began at noon came
second; the soberest brought up the rear. Drinking patterns, uncanny results!

The top three at ‘Goa Monitor’ – Publisher, Editor, Chief Reporter – markedly 
resembled
Calangute’s trinity. Publisher was the early bird, Editor felt thirsty at 
lunchtime, Chief
Reporter by dinner.

The result was a delectable potpourri of 100% Goan tabloid journalism. 
Unfortunately,
despite the highly talented team, this uneven competition to the monopoly 
newspaper
soon faded out. After ‘Goa Monitor’ shut, Jagdish Rao ran his own tabloid, ‘The 
Blade.’
That, too, didn’t live long.

Tabloids, then as now, were regarded as scandal sheets. Times are changing. 
Goa’s
runaway corruption enabled a tabloid survive some time now. It takes a 
mercenary Ed,
who publicly rents and rants about his dungeon-like “basement flat” and 
privately passes
the hat to buy himself better accommodation. Judge his measure of success when, 
at
the last of his ‘multiple’ 60th birthday celebrations – at 5-star hotels and 
Kala Academy,
on different days – he facilely raised Twenty Lakhs from people who must have 
had a lot
to hide, with Chief Minister Digambar Kamat himself promising the deficit of 
five lakhs.
My thoughts strayed.

True competition to Goa’s monopoly English newspaper arrived in 1978, when 
Margao’s
‘West Coast Times’ (WCT) took off. It was a modern newspaper by Goan yardsticks,
from production processes to well-staffed editorial talent. MG Bailur, a 
Dakshin Kannada
Konknni-speaking grandfatherly figure, pulled out from retirement, was Editor. 
Younger
YM Hegde, with FPJ veteran PR Menon as News Editor, ably assisted Bailur.

On writing skills, Bailur had no peer among Goa’s English-segment Editors … 
even if
grandiloquent, and wrote in such classic Victorian that a single sentence could 
run into
200 words. His rare eloquence turned an abstract notion into so tangible a 
sentence one
could touch it. Bailur had a combined mastery over words, construction, 
punctuation –
and their seamless flow. Within months, WCT was well on the potential to its 
proprietor’s
pan-Konkan dream. But for the proprietor’s reliance on bad managerial advice, 
WCT
could’ve blazed a path-breaking trail in Goa’s journalistic history.

The monopoly paper, meanwhile, brought in a young Editor. Bikram Vohra came with
new ideas, infused new life into the creaking Old Lady, and, typically, ran a 
Page-1,
Column-8 feature called the *Ninth Column.* (It was later nicknamed “Fifth 
Column,” for
reasons we shall shortly see.)

Bikram was an ex-Indian Express hand. Its fledgling Ahmedabad edition was just 
unable
to match the ToI. Ramnath Goenka marched the resourceful Bikram to Ahmedabad. As
Resident Ed, Bikram’s trademark gimmickry soon became legend. Within days, he 
had
the town painted red, with posters that screamed, *KEEP AHEAD OF THE TIMES,
READ THE EXPRESS.* Classically Bikram.

In Goa, Bikram was even-handed with the warring Congress factions, led by Babu 
Naik
and Dr. Willy. Babu was related to both Bikram’s proprietor and publisher. When 
asked
to bend, Bikram inexplicably went overboard, with a full-throated war cry 
against Willy.
To people like Dr. Willy and his Sancho Panza, Govind Panvelkar, Bikram turned
‘Chakram,’ aka ‘Fifth Columnist.’

Nonetheless, Chakram had earned his place in history. He demonstrated that a 
16-year
boy could run faster than a 60-year-old donkey. Retired or near-retirement 
Editors
became history. Young guys like Ashwin Tombat and Sujoy Gupta became the order 
of
the day … for a refreshing change!

I’ll wind up the subject with “one for the road.” Of Goa’s three English 
dailies, one hired a
young Goan as editor (not Derek Almeida.) One day, a scandal spilled that an 
unnamed
Ed (between the three) molested his maidservant the previous night. Our hero’s 
paper
killed that news item. Others carried it. The needle of public suspicion 
naturally swiveled
our hero’s way … until days later, when it became clear it was not he but 
another from
the trio (whose own paper had carried the report) was the culprit. Our hero was 
only
obeying the dictum that dog doesn’t eat dog! (Concludes.) (ENDS)

The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at:

http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=330

[Goanet] Goa news for March 16, 2008

2008-03-15 Thread Goanet News Service

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Signature campaign against Goa Property Show gets good
response - Navhind Times
[2 hours ago]  The signature campaign against Goa Property Show
started by Mr Anthony DSilva, a resident of Assolna, has been
getting tremendous response since its launch ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031610&cid=1142589191&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** When Waugh went to Goa - The Statesman
[2 hours ago]  PTI LONDON, March 15: Ms Fiona MacKeown, mother
of Scarlett Keeling, was not the only Briton to travel from
rural England to Goa with a large family, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=2&theme=&usrsess=1&id=195306&cid=1138055169&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** Goa bans foreigners from buying properties - NDTV.com
[Mar 14, 2008]  Against the backdrop of cases of foreign land
mafia and drug cartels buying real estate in Goa, the state
government on Fridaybanned foreigners from ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044076&ch=3/15/2008%201:03:00%20AM&cid=1142521815&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** UK teens mum and Goa minister trade charges - Daily News &
Analysis
[5 hours ago]  "She is simply trying to divert the main case of
her daughters rape and murder to malign Goa and India with
ulterior motives." "There must have been some ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1156268&cid=1142813605&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** For foreign tourists, Goa offers cheap thrills - Times of
India
[Mar 13, 2008]  PANJIM: They arrive in Goa like white chicken
and leave golden-brown. They pass a lovely week eating, drinking
and sunbathing, and all for less than five ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/For_foreign_tourists_Goa_offers_cheap_thrills/articleshow/2863498.cms&cid=1142860364&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** Film Library and Archives in Goa soon - Deccan Herald
[14 hours ago]  Goa government has decided to set up a Film
Library and Archives of ancient and contemporary cinema classics
in the Entertainment Society Complex here. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Mar152008/national2008031557582.asp?section=updatenews&cid=1142730828&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** Goa Velha enter Aldona Cup quarter-finals - Navhind Times
[2 hours ago]  Goa Velha Sports Club, down by two goals, fought
gallantly against Saligao United Club to win 8-7 via the sudden
death, to enter the quarter-finals of ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031626&cid=1142847255&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** TODAY\'S EDITORIAL: Clean Up Goa - Times of India
[Mar 14, 2008]  With its rich cultural and religious
traditions, Goa offers a heady mix of the old and the new.
However, over the years, it has also become an attractive ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/TODAYS_EDITORIAL_Clean_Up_Goa/articleshow/2867196.cms&cid=1142844902&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** Goa government to clean up coastline - Hindu
[1 hour ago]  PANAJI: In the wake of the alleged drugging and
murder of a British teenager, the Goa government has undertaken
a clean-up drive on its coastline. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/16/stories/2008031655580900.htm&cid=1142848433&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg

*** Alleged drug dealer charged with murder of Goa teen - AFP
[Mar 13, 2008]  PANAJI, India (AFP) ” Police in the Indian
resort state of Goa said Thursday they have charged an alleged
drug dealer with the murder of a British teenager, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iLycfTgQoPengiRB45oHdAZLeW7Q&cid=0&ei=-1vcR7KlG5nmrQO-iayjCg


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

[Goanet] H Britton Singing LIVE - BANDRA FESTAK & MARIALINA

2008-03-15 Thread JoeGoaUk

H Britton Pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk11/1101099183/


H Britton Singing LIVE -  BANDRA FESTAK & MARIALINA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7oIvKuxO9w

Actually, it was not LIVE as both music and song/voice played from a
pre-recored CD.
H Britton was only LIVE on stage pretending as if he is singing live.

thank God, there were not much of Tiatr audience as 95% were  others incliding
non-Goans.

That was not very nice to do by such a senior actor.  At once stage, a wrong
track was played instead of his announced song 'Marilina', and it continued for
30 seconds and thats where people caught him...where as I found out 
immediately when he started singing Bandra Festak as he sang one new song
himself before on pre-recorded music.

Many others too gives their shows on a pre-recorded music CD but singing LIVE.
Recently, I watched bab Andrew show during IFFI 2007.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7oIvKuxO9w

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[Goanet] Some Konkani Songs from Parrikar

2008-03-15 Thread JoeGoaUk

Some Konkani Songs from Parrikar

I have accidentally found this site about 3 years ago and since then they are
also available (via the the links)  with the little group I have- Goan-nri.
I don't know if any other konkani songs were availble on the net  before that

JoeGoaUk started his Goa related videos/songs on the net since August 2006.
Now a days, particularly during the last six months or so, one can find many
video songs on the net most of which are directly uploaded from VCDs(as in 'cut
and paste')

Anyway, it is good to know our Goa/Konkani/Culture etc gaining popularity on
the net.

Not just the providers or the uploaders can help promote Goa Konkani on the net
but you the viewers or the listners can help too.
And now, don't ask me how?
==

I am sure you will love these oldies.
Thanks to Parrikar

Check this out..

Mohamad Rafi/Lorna
http://www.parrikar.org/misc/rafi_konkanicantara.ram

Lorna
http://www.parrikar.org/misc/lorna_konkanicantara.ram

Music composed by Chris Perry. 

Mohammad Rafi - 
http://www.parrikar.org/misc/rafi_noxibac.ram 

Rafi
http://www.parrikar.org/misc/rafi_bomjesuchea.ram 
(Mando) 

Lorna - 
http://www.parrikar.org/misc/lorna_tuzomog.ram 


Antonette - 
http://www.parrikar.org/misc/antonette_pittipitti.ram

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Re: [Goanet] Religion

2008-03-15 Thread Nigel Britto

Dear Mr. Albert DeSouza,

AMEN!

You've hit the nail on the head. I wanted to mention this in a previous
discussion but refrained from doing so since many people on this forum
blindly accept dogma, and have ready and complicado explanations for their
abominations. If not, they will paint an idealistic picture and say what
people *ought* to be doing, as opposed to admitting what the problem is.

@Goanet,
Look at our elected representatives. Many of them are Catholic. Their
actions don't prove it. The accused in many robbery and rape cases are also
catholic. It's an inconvenient truth that our youth are going even further
away from the teachings of the Bible. But then, of course, it's easier to
give excuses.

-- 
Truth Liberates,
Nigel Britto

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Re: [Goanet] Mouth watering Prawns Curry Rice

To Goanet -

Roland Francis wrote:
>Ah the days of real Goan cooking from the hands of Goan women happily
>bowed and bent over a wood fire rather than a dish served in a
>restaurant and cooked by Biharis, Oriyas or who knows which other
>specimens of Indiankind.

Ah, indeed.  I refuse to place an order for Goan food in 
Hindi or any other Indian language except Konkani.  
Can you imagine the ignominy? - Xacuti hai, bhai?  
Arre Khatkhate lao?

But don't despair.  There are so many authentic Goan 
gustatory experiences squirreled away in hole-in-the-wall 
galleys.  You won't find them listed in the Lonely Planet 
or on travel websites.  For the high end authentic 
experience, Riorico at Mandovi is at or near the top 
of its game.  But the real Goan manna is to be had at 
the humbler haunts, a comprehensive catalogue of 
which is the need of the hour.

Regards,

r

Re: [Goanet] More on Selling Goa

2008-03-15 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>Sound the bugles!  Finally Dr. Santosh
>"White-man-knows-more-about-Goan-culture-than-Goans"
>Helekar gets it !
> 

Lashing out is always a weak emotional response and a
sign of insecurity. But the good thing here is this
remark is also an indication of an attempt to save
face, and at possible recovery from a bad attitude.

Cheers,

Santosh

Re: [Goanet] More on Selling Goa

2008-03-15 Thread J. Colaco < jc>

Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  [ The bigger danger
now is Indians buying out Goa.  At least the white man has good civic
habits and SOME social conscience.]

jc's response:

Wonder what the above means.

Does it mean

1: Goans resident in India are not Indians
2: Goa is not a part of India
3: Indians have NO  'social conscience'
4: Indians do NOT possess 'good civic habits'
5: There are NO "white" Indians (white as in Caucasian)
6: If there are - only the "white" Indians (Varna reborn) have good
civic habits and SOME social consciences
7: Manohar Parrikar and the BJP agree with the above view points
8: Some among us will say anything and do anything as a means to an end
9: Some of us think that all Goans are unintelligent and do not possess sense
10: All of the above

jc

PS: As a Catholic Goan who has experienced the MGP attempt to
ethnically cleanse Goa of Catholics (via employment-engineering),
alleged-Congress bafoonery and corruption (BTW, I admired Rajiv Gandhi
and do admire Sonia Gandhi), and the serious attempt by the BJP to
destroy Catholicism via the evil VideoCD, I would sell ALL my property
in Goa to the highest bidder.

What we have now - is NOT the Goa, I grew up to love.

Thank you O Freedom Fighters. Thank you Lambert. Thank you O Alibaba
and your gang

[Goanet] Forest offcials of Curdi Sanguem attached mining truck for illegal tresspass in reserve Forest at Colomba

2008-03-15 Thread JOAO FERNANDES

John Fernandes , Quepem 
   
   
  The Forest officials of Curdi Range Forest, Sanguem have detained two mining  
trucks for illegally trespassing into reserve forest at Gulkond Donger at 
Colomba. 
  Sources informed herald that the truck bearing Registration No.GA-02-T-8304 
and GA-09-U-1999 inorder to go to a mine functioning  in Gulkond Dongor 
trespassed into the reserve forest  which was attached by the forest officials 
lead by RFO Fadte attached to Curdi Range. 
   
  Village sources informed herald that the mine which is operating in Gulkond 
Donger there is no way for the company to transport the ore and the only way is 
through the reserve forest. That the Forest department has raised a barbed wire 
fencing which the mining company tried to remove on many occasion inorder to 
enable  them to start transportation of ore, which attempt have repeated by the 
company after the filing of the writ petition in the high court by the 
villager. However every attempt of the company has been foiled by the vigilant 
Forest officials and the locals. 
  

   
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[Goanet] Ivana, Bhakti recommended for Cash awards

2008-03-15 Thread Goanet Sports

Two time World Under 8 Girls Champion Ivana Maria Furtado and National 
Junior Girls Champion Bhakti Kulkarni have been recommended for cash awards 
totalling Rs. 190,000/- to the Ministry of Youth and Sports Affairs for 
performances in the year 2007 by the All India Chess Federation as  per the 
press release on the official AICF website.


Monginis Brand Ambassador Bhakti Kulkarni will be eligible for Rs. 40,000/- 
for the silver medal which she won in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. Ivana will be 
richer by Rs. 100,000/- for the Gold medal in the World Youth in Turkey and 
Rs. 50,000/- for the Gold medal in the Asian Youth in Al Ain, U.A.E. Their 
coach Raghunandan Gokhale, India's first Dronacharya awardee, will also get 
coaching awards for their performances as well as for the two Bronze medals 
of Shalmali Gagare (in Asian and World) and Gold Medal of Shardul Gagare in 
the Asian Youth Championships.


This run of success started after both the girls stood third in the national 
championships in their respective categories in 2005. As per the new AICF 
dispensation and thanks to the confidence they enjoyed with the Ministry, 
there were three entries sent officially for both the Asian Youth and the 
World Youth and that is where the Goan kids managed to capitalise. The 
previous AICF body would generally send  only the first placed player in the 
Nationals to the World Youth and only the second to the Asian Youth. In this 
method, the third place never figured in the teams for official 
participation.


'This year, we will apply for even more spots,' said the AICF Vice President 
Sameer A. Salgaocar and that way 'there is a chance that 4th placed 
Harikrishnan can  participate as a selected player in the World Youth and 
Asian Youth in the year 2008 itself'. The previous performance of the Indian 
kids should stand them in good stead when the proposal is put up to the 
Ministry of Youth and Sports Affairs and we  should all cross our fingers 
for young Harikrishnan!



SOURCE: Sameer Salgaocar - Vice President, All-India Chess Federation

Re: [Goanet] Drug scourge in Goa a post 61 phenomena!

2008-03-15 Thread Oscar Lobo


A good food for thought by Mr. Bernado Colaco in his posting on Goanet
Digest, Volume 3, Issue 287.

Many a times this question is asked and varying answers are given, can as 
many people as possible define a Goan?  Is/was the definition same pre to 
1961 annexation and post 1961?


Perhaps some of our Goan professionals and few philosophers can shed their 
expertise, euphoria or whatever one would like to call it in these days and 
years. These definitions hopefully will meet with the thinking of Goans from 
Goa, Goans from India and Goans from Africa and elsewhere.


Thank you.

Oscar C. Lobo

[Goanet] ALERT: Construction project on the hill in Old Goa

To Goanet -

Last week on my way up the hill to the Chapel of the
Mary Mount in Old Goa, I saw a fresh clearing on 
right side uphill and a dirt road leading in.  My driver 
and I immediately sensed something new was afoot.  
This is afterall Madkaikar territory.

Today at Cafe Tato, I happened to eavesdrop on
an animated conversation between 3 men on the
adjacent table.  They were discussing the parceling
of plots on that very hill, licking their chops at the
prospect of interested clients, squealing with delight
thinking of the superb views of the Carambolim Lake 
and the surrounding countryside afforded from 
atop the hill site.  By the time they left, the entire
table must have been awash in drool.  These were
Catholic men presumably acting in concert with 
the Hindu champion of the downtrodden.  Ergo,
this is a secular project.

Another hill, this time adjacent to the Chapel of the 
Mary Mount is on the chopping block.

I could take pictures and post them here, BUT WHAT
DOES IT MATTER?  WHO IS LISTENING?  WHO CARES?

Regards,


r

[Goanet] Framework to Interview Manohar Parrikar- Burying the hatchet

2008-03-15 Thread anil desai

Dear Goanetters,


I have been following the debate on Parrikar interview with interest. I
would like to respond to the latest post from Mr Heble.


Sandeep Heble wrote:

I will try to summarize the sequence of events on this subject to
clarify what exactly many of us are objecting to, in the hope that
better sense prevails upon both Dr Anand and Rajan; and together they
adopt postures that are fair, just and equitable to all concerned.

The sequence of Events so far:

1.  Dr Anand moots the initial proposal of uploading an interview of
Manohar Parrikar exclusively on the Goanet Forum, with Parrikar
fielding questions exclusively from Goanetters. In his post, Dr Anand
solicits questions from Goanetters for the said interview.

Response:

I checked with goanet archives and found Dr Anand's very first post on this
subject. this is what Dr Anand said:

Manohar Parrikar wishes to speak to Goanet.
*Sun Mar 2 02:24:55 PST 2008*

Dear Goanetters,

I have requested Manohar Parrikar to record a video interview for
Goanet...and he has kindly agreed.

He will answer questions posed by all of us and the videos will subsequently
be uploaded on Goanet. I have arranged for a professional videographer to
film the interview and Bab Joe ( of JoeGoaUK fame ) has agreed to assist
with transferring the CD's onto the net.
If any Goanetter wishes to be present at the session , please let me know
and I will try to make necessary arrangements.

Meanwhile, I would request fellow netters to provide a list of questions
they wish to quiz Manohar Parrikar on. Those who do not wish to do so on the
forum are welcome to mail me offline.

Please send in the questions ASAP as the interview is scheduled in a week or
so.
luv and regards, anand

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https://www.mycooluncool.com


Response to Sandeep Heble


Will you now explain to me and other Goanetters how you arrived at the
sequence of events that you mention in your long post. Where did Dr Anand
say in his above post that this interview was exclusively for Goanet?


You say you are not here for petty fights. You say that you are not writing
for one upmanship and then you go on to accuse Dr Anand of deeds which he
has patently not committed.
What is it that you find so scary about this venture? The truth that might
come out of it?

Next time you want to castigate someone, please, at least try to get the
facts right.




Dr Anil Desai

Re: [Goanet] Goans in the Middle East in pain !

On 14/03/2008, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Mario responds:

>  Gabe Menezes wrote:
>  >
>  In Toledo Ohio they are giving them away, for free, Check it out :-
>  
> http://www.realtor.com/search/searchresults.aspx?ctid=4180&ml=3&mxp=29&typ=7&sid=b64c3b8d81624f8eb141b574a94bf7f9&pg=1
>  >
>  Mario responds:
>  >
>  I was really excited when I saw this information since I live near Toledo 
> and thought I could add to my growing list of real-estate properties at no 
> cost, so I ran out to capture the market for $0 price houses.  The realtor I 
> called thought I was nuts.  I cited this thread and demanded they give me all 
> those houses, immediately.
>  >
>  Unfortunately, what I found was that the Realtor.com website shows homes 
> scheduled for auction as $0 because no specific asking price has been set.  
> Some of these single-family houses with large yards in nice neighborhoods 
> have minimum bid prices that sound like the ridiculous prices they pay for 
> the walk-up tenements in London.

RESPONSE: May be true what the man says, but where there are prices
stated that is the minimum reserve price at auction and in effect if
the minimum reserve price of a property is set at USD250 then it will
sell. Since Mario wants to expand his ever growing portfolio of
investments, he should attend the auctions. He should further mop up
the market in Goa...he has been advocating that the property market
there is a steal.

As to the walk up London tenement, it would be worth more than this
nice looking property in Toledo Ohio. £1 is now USD2.00;_

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=34758307

If the man could kindly provide any place in London, even a single
bedroom that is on sale for the equivalent of USD100,000 then he would
be doing many a London Goan a big, big favour

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

Re: [Goanet] Goans in the Middle East in pain !

On 14/03/2008, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thu Mar 13 03:47:56 PDT 2008
>  Gabe Menezes gabe.menezes at gmail.com wrote:
>  >
>  Yes USD interest rates touched 23 percent for one year money, during that 
> period.
>  >
>  Mario responds:
>  >
>  At first glance this looked like an excerpt from the article.  Then I 
> realized it was the poster's own editorial comment - it was hard to tell when 
> the switch took place.
>  >
>  Though the article said that interest rates had gone over 20% I was unable 
> to find any evidence that the interest rate in the US had gone as high as 23% 
> for one year money.   Maybe I did not look in the right place.  I would 
> appreciate it if someone could cite some source to support this claim.

RESPONSE: Short of actually pulling up the ticket with the name of the
Bank that borrowed, I have no way of proving that.

excerpt :-

The chairman of the Fed also oversees the 12-member Federal Open
Market Committee (FOMC), which decides the conduct of U.S. monetary
policy. During 1979 and 1980 the FOMC, under Volcker's leadership,
sought to reign in double-digit inflation by setting strict money
supply growth targets. This direction was in opposition to past
policies that sought to control interest rates at the expense of
higher money supply growth rates. The result of the switch in policy
was a substantial rise in interest rates, with the prime rate peaking
at 21.5 percent in December 1980.

ends.

http://www.answers.com/topic/paul-volcker

If one knows how the inter bank markets work then one would have
surmised that it was perfectly possible, that interbank one year money
actually traded at 23 percent, with prime being 21-1/2 percent.

Not any one can avail money at prime rate; Prime rate is the rate
offered for top notch names, corporates borrowing are usually charged
a spread over that rate. Now I shall give a lesson in interbank
dealings:

Funds are quoted at say 3-1/8 - 3-1/4 percent through a broker, for
say a certain period.

That is the bid price if one is a lender is at 3-1/8 and if one is a
borrower the rate is 3-1/4 percent. Now the crux is if the lender can
lend to the intended borrower. Every Bank has a trading and lending
limit for each other. Moreover there are mark ups for different tier
banks. For some Banks the credit just dries up and there isn't even a
price at which money can be obtained - ask Bear Stearnsperhaps
shortly to be followed by Lehman Bros. The USA under Republicans does
not interfere with markets ? :-))

Banks frequently call up each other asking for dealing rates and among
the top notch banks the 1/8 spread is quoted. When a Bank, that is not
top notch approaches then the bid side would stay the same but the
spread could go a much as 3/8 to a 1/2 percent, sometimes the Bank
will say I pay so much for the various periods i.e. bid only. If the
counter party asks for the offered or lending rate then it could be
even 1 percent the other side.

Now during the tight money period of early 1980's interbank dealing
rates were way, way up and much, much higher than prime.

It was not so long ago that Mario claimed that prime, never even went
up beyond 20 percent. Obviously Mario wasn't a Banker, neither a
financially knowledgeable person nor perhaps studied in the finer
aspects of Finance, so I'll excuse him.

Another thing that Mario does not know. The deal took place in
Singapore; USD FX and interbank lending goes round the World 24/7, not
just in the USA ! - The Middle East trade on the weekends. In fact for
most reference points, it is L.I.B.O.R. ( London interbank offered
rate); this is even quoted as a reference for syndicate deals put
together in New York and elsewhere round the World, on to which a
spread/margin is added

Now if one wants to trade say FX no sweat, so long as the counter
party has a dealing limit for you. It is not like dealing in stocks
and shares - but even here one's broker will have a limit on the
buying side for you  - in case you cannot deliver the cash also
depends on the limit set up !

Mario should go back to Ann abor or where ever, to gen up on the
period when USD interest rates were above 20 percent, he will find
that some regional USA Banks might have paid even more than 23
percent. Certainly RJR Nabisco, had a Bond issued by Michael Milken,
the Junk Bond King of Drexel, which paid 26 percent.

I shall not enter into any more discussion on this thread; i.e. take
it or leave it.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England

[Goanet] Re.GSCA to condemn second circuler of AICF on payment to coaches in April 27 meet

2008-03-15 Thread Kapil Deo

Mr. Sandeep,

Please correct your self. I am not Mr. but Mrs.Kapila Deo, (I know it get 
printed as Kapil)
I appriciate for interest shown by you on dull issue like CHESS in GOA. 
Although Goans performance at International or National level is very very good 
compared to any other individual sport. 

I am puting a link of Coaching circular and quating a para. 
http://indianchessfed.org/News/2008/January/coachingprogramme.asp
"For players to be identified by the State Associations, we request the various 
State Associations to send us a list of ten children in the age group of 7 – 15 
for whom the AICF will take care of the Boarding and Lodging apart from the 
expenses in employing good coaches. The State Association will be required to 
take care of the travel expenses alone. "

Today it is March 15. Its more than two months. GSCA must have identified ten 
names and must have submitted to AICF. 

I would be happy to know who are these "financially weak chess players".

As also whole Goa should know the identified players. When is the D day. 
exectly ... Annual General Meeting day April 27 2008. 
When everyone attending the meeting knows the benefits from these coaching ... 
issue of the second circular will come up and AGM of GSCA will reject it in 
toto. 
These coaching circular is now over two months old
AICF should annouce the name of GM's and IM's who have opted to give ther 
services as free coaching and as per the rates stipulated by AICF. Certainly 
INDIANS should know this why dont you write to AICF sandeep  here is the email 
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for your convinience. 

If you want I would also like to eleborate on Demand and Supply position of 
Chess Coaches in India. 


  

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Re: [Goanet] BJP is not an option for GOA

To Goanet -

Miguel Braganza wrote:
>The Congress is not the best party to run the Goa Government but the
>BJP is not the better option. 

Thank you for stating the 'apolitical' GBA's position but 
I bet you, like your pusillanimous convener, are going 
to tell us that these are your personal views and not those
of the GBA.

>If in doubt, ask Datta Damodar Naik, once a strong supporter of MP...

Indeed, let us ask Datta Damodar Naik, who suddenly 
discovered BJP's communalism and Manohar Parrikar's 
toxicity.

Miguel Braganza should take this simple questionnaire to
his newfound confrere Datta Damodar Naik and report
back to Goanet with Shri Naik's answers.

1) Did Datta Damodar Naik meet Manohar Parrikar on
matters regarding his own construction activities and CRZ
compliance?  Did Digambar Kamat facilitate this meeting?
What did Manohar Parrikar tell Mr Naik?  What did Mr Naik
tell Manohar?

2) Did Datta Damodar Naik meet with the then TCP Minister
Babush Monserrate on matters concerning his construction
activities and the issue of CRZ compliance?  Was the "valiant"
and "amazingly farsighted" Digu present at this meeting?
What happened during that meeting?

3) Which of the two meetings took place first, and what was
the outcome of each?

4) Would Datta Damodar Naik tell us the timeline of the
above meetings and his discovery of BJP's & Manohar's
communalism?

M Braganza says we should ask Datta Damodar Naik. 
Well then, shall we?  I request Braganza to take this simple 
questionnaire to D D Naik and report back with the answers.

Warm regards,

r

Re: [Goanet] Sorry, but I blame Scarlett Keeling's mother (Allison Pearson in the Daily Mail)

2008-03-15 Thread otherindiabookstore Alvares



This letter really says it all.

Re: [Goanet] The perils of Goa's party scene (Soutik Biswas, BBC)

2008-03-15 Thread jude mitra


Are you affected by this story? Have you been to Goa? Did you find
that drugs were freely available there? Send us your experiences and
comments using the form below.


one should see where one is walking-if you are not careful,chances of injury 
is always there everywhere-it does not matter if it is tokyo or 
rome.prevention is better than cure-moral to all concerned.


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[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : UK media draws flak for putting India in negative light

2008-03-15 Thread RUBYGOES

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[Goanet] Religion

2008-03-15 Thread Albert Desouza


Dear friends
I fully agree with Ann Marie Mario and others regarding Catholic religion. What 
Jesus Christ preached and practiced is far different what we get now a days in 
catholicism.is nothing. Actually it is true that apart from hearing masses, 
receiving sacraments and saying rosaries we have nothing very concrete with us. 
Today the world is faced with lots of problems.Divorce, juvenile deliquency, 
rapes, murders, poverty etc but the church is indifferent to all these. The 
word of God find no prominence in the liturgy of the church except the three 
readings at the mass. The lay has lot of potentials to propagate the word of 
God but the clergy wants upper hand and will try to stop the lay from spreading 
the gospel.Love God and love neighbour is only in words.
Quo Vadis Domino.
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[Goanet] GOA's KILLER ROADS:Navelim school girl crushed to death by loaded truck

2008-03-15 Thread Goa Desc

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Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED.
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Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rawanfond girl crushed to death
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A pall of gloom descended on Rawanfond area after a
16-year old girl student was crushed under the wheels
of a loaded truck at Rawanfond on Wednesday afternoon.

A student of Rosary High School, Navelim, young Jessila
Carvalho as usual was heading towards Navelim on her
cycle for the afternoon tuitions in view of the fast-approaching
SSC examinations, when she was knocked down by the truck
from behind. The girl was run over by the truck when she came
under the rear wheels. She breathed her last on the spot.

A team of Margao police personnel had to face the wrath of
the agitated locals as they came late to the accident site. Locals
alleged that one of the constables was under the influence of
liquor, an allegation later denied by police officials.

Sources said the young girl was busy preparing herself to answer
her forthcoming SSC examination when fate proved otherwise.

PI Santosh Dessai and PSI Navlesh Dessai rushed to Rawanfond
upon hearing the news and to keep the tension at bay.The body
was later shifted to the Hospicio hospital for post mortem
examination.

PI Santosh informed that a case has been registered against the
truck driver for rash and negligent driving causing the death of
the young girl. The driver, however, has got himself admitted
in a private hospital for some ailment.

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[Goanet] What is Goanet? Can it influence Goan voters?

2008-03-15 Thread JoeGoaUk

What is Goanet?  Can it influence Goan voters?

What is Goanet?
GOANET  is a NET meeting place for SOME  GOANs spread all over the world,
including India.

Up to 97% of Goanet members live outside Goa/India.
Up to 3% of the total members come to attend the meeting regularly and as such
they are the active members of the Goanet. 
Up to 85% of Goanet members  are falling under the category of Silent Members


If Goanet is one big water-Melon with just 5 different sized slices, the
largest slice would constitute those who are in their age group 51-65 followed 
by 35-50 then 65+ and below 35 being the smallest slice.

There may be very very  few or none at all  below the age of 30.

Goanet  is like a day centre for most Senior Citizens or OAPs members.

Goanet is the single largest & the oldest  NET meeting place (mailing list) for
NRI Goans on the web.

The single main reason why Goans are seen in large numbers here
is because  it is FREE.


Can Goanet influence Goan Voters?
I dont think so.
They can only talk and talk on Goanet  as we do the same in our Bolcao or
Tintto about the Goan Politics or its Politicians but no amount of talk or
gossip will influence the Goan voters.

Why?

Simply because Goans (and non-Goan)  living in Goa or the MLAs or the Ministers
or the Goan politicians etc etc are not part of Goanet.

Up to 80% of the Goanet members dont even have Voting Rights in Goa as they
along with their families settled abroad. Remaining 17% may have voting rights
but they are not likely to visit Goa just for voting. eg some of them may be
working abroad under fixed term contract basis  etc.

Few Gulfies  may disagree with me saying although they are abroad with or
without voting rights, they can still influence their wives (Parents or
children above 18  if any) who they leave behind in Goa.  

Well, in  Goa voting has become a business now and as such the highest bidder
get the vote. Current going rate is Rs.500-1000 per vote. Its simple!  Give
and Take.

Will you accept money?

Why not?

After all voting is secret. Not even my husband has to know about it

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[Goanet] The land where the hippy trail reaches a historic impasse

The land where the hippy trail reaches a historic impasse

Adventurous travellers have found many things in Goa. Innocent escape
was never one of them

* Ian Jack
*
  o Ian Jack
  o The Guardian,
  o Saturday March 15 2008
* Article history

About this article
Close
This article appeared in the Guardian on Saturday March 15 2008 on p30
of the Saturday section. It was last updated at 00:48 on March 15
2008.

Fiona MacKeown was by no means the first parent of a large family to
travel from a rambling home in rural western England, in the middle of
a damp winter, and see what Goa had to offer by way of diversion.
Evelyn Waugh had six children (a seventh died in infancy); Fiona
MacKeown had nine (eight since February 15, when her 15-year-old
daughter Scarlett Keeling was found dead on the beach at Anjuna).
Waugh travelled from Piers Court, a Georgian mansion in
Gloucestershire. MacKeown came from a huddle of caravans near
Bideford, Devon, a home summarised as "a mountain of old tyres ...
empty beer bottles ... and rubbish" by Wednesday's Daily Mail. But the
bigger difference is that Waugh left his children behind.

He came to Goa in December 1952. "The scenery [is] delicious ... the
people soft and friendly," he wrote to his wife. The Portuguese colony
made a great deal of him. A car and guides were provided. While he was
shaving one morning in his hotel, a solicitous official appeared and
said, "All the peoples in Goa are asking how you slept." Waugh was no
stranger to drink - nor probably to drugs in his youth - and like
MacKeown he was a great traveller, though not a Romany. What he wanted
out of Goa, however, was a religious rather than a sensual experience.
As a Roman Catholic, he had come to witness the exposition of the
sacred relics of St Francis Xavier, the Jesuit missionary whose body
had been brought back from China to Goa in the 16th century, where it
had lain (minus its right forearm, which other missionaries had hacked
off and taken to Rome) miraculously preserved in its glass and silver
casket ever since. Waugh joined the queue in the cathedral, kissed a
foot ("one brown stump of toe emerging from the white wrapping") and
then went off to a five-course lunch in the palace of the patriarch.

What did the name "Goa" mean then? In the west, almost nothing.
India's independence five years before signalled that colonialism was
coming to an end, but the countries of western Europe still had plenty
of colonies. Goa was merely the oldest, a small enclave in India taken
from its Muslim rulers by the Portuguese in 1510. The conquerors'
religious zeal and skin-blind sexual desire meant many Goans were
Catholic and of mixed race, but this hardly recommended them to either
the rulers or the ruled in British India. All the qualities that were
later distorted and exaggerated to make Goa "the world's number one
party destination" met Anglo-Saxon disapproval. The explorer and
translator Richard Burton, there in the 1840s, found it "a worse than
useless colony" filled with drunk, lazy men, and abundant evidence
that religious conversion and miscegenation led to "the utter
degeneracy of the breed".

Degeneracy to one writer in one age is harmony to a different writer
in another. Ten years after Waugh departed, his friend and fellow
Catholic Graham Greene arrived to write a piece called Goa the Unique.
Goa had been repugnant to Burton; to Waugh it seemed either sacred or
quaint; but in the give-and-take of its villages and mixture of
religions Greene glimpsed of a happier society than many countries,
including India at large, had achieved. He stayed with a civil servant
in a government bungalow. The civil servant's young wife, Maria Couto,
remembers that at a party one night Greene was offered Benzedrine and
took some. The Coutos had never seen recreational drugs before.
Remembering this to me this week, Maria Couto said, "The important
thing to stress is that it wasn't offered by a Goan - it came from a
German girl."

The year was 1963. Two years earlier India had invaded or "liberated"
Goa after a long confrontation with Portugal's dictator, António de
Oliveira Salazar. As Maria Couto explains in her recent history of
Goa, A Daughter's Story, it was the years of Indian blockade that laid
the foundations of a new Goan way of money-making that you might say,
taking an impossibly long view, killed Scarlett Keeling. Salazar was a
defiant imperialist who determined that Goa would survive any
shortages. Imports went far beyond local needs: potatoes and oranges
from Europe replaced Indian sources, but there was also gold, watches
and liquor, with the surplus smuggled to India. Goa's iron ore
deposits became an ever more crucial export; mining licences were
granted indiscriminately. Agricultural labour became scarcer, the
coconut crop smaller, the police more corrupt. What Couto calls "a
seamy side of life" developed that was well placed to take advantage
of every drug-seeker, sun-worsh

[Goanet] "Summer Queen Ball" with "Aqua Flow" & "Stepping Stones" on 25th April 2008

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The much-awaited annual feature of the Goan Cultural Centre - Kuwait
the Summer Queen Ball will be held on Friday, 25 April 2008
with Indias best music band Aqua Flow brought in direct from
Goa for the event.

Kuwaits well known and top band Stepping Stones will club in
for the added musical flavor and delights on Friday, 25th April 2008 at the
Crowne Plaza Hotel's magnificient "Al-Andalus Ballroom" at 9:00 p.m.

The highlights are the crowning of the Summer Queen, dance competitions,
buffet dinner, novelties and surpises galore, fabulous loads
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Re: [Goanet] More on Selling Goa

To Goanet -

Santosh Helekar wrote:
>The biggest dangers are self-hatred and servility.
>Fortunately, these are dying traits among us, Indians.

Sound the bugles!  Finally Dr. Santosh "White-man-knows-more-
about-Goan-culture-than-Goans" Helekar gets it !

Warm regards,


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[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Tiatrantlim Bhurgim, Bhurgeanche Tiatr

   
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Tiatrantlim Bhurgim, Bhurgeanche Tiatr
  - Jose Salvador Fernandes
   
  Moddganvcho Gomantak Vidya Niketan vosro. Sanjechim 3.30 vazleant. Tiatr suru 
zala. Tea vosreant bosun hanv tiatr polletam. Tiatrachem nanv XXX. Tiatrant 
char-panch zann bhurgeancho aspav asa mhunn vosro chikar bhorla. Don pordeam 
uprant, tiatrantli Garden Scene. Bapui ani tacho 8 vorsancho put distat.
   
  Put: Daddy, tum oso kitlo temp mhunn mummy-chea ugddasan roddot ravtolo? 
   
  Bapui: Baba, hanv mummy-chea ugddasan roddonam, punn hanv astanam ti dusrea 
dadlea sangata jiyeta tem polleun mhojem kalliz dukhta. 
   
  Put: Punn daddy, he porim tuka soddun dusrea dadlea vangdda vochunk tujea 
mogant tika kitem unnem aslem? 
   
  Bapui: Khobor nam baba mhaka! 
   
  Put: Az tumi dogaim tor Leila-Majnu, Romeo-Juliet hanche porim niz mogan 
jiyelolim zalear, az sonvsarachem chitruch bodolpachem! 
  
   
  To tiatr polleun ghorche vatter astanam, tea tiatracher niyall korpak mhojea 
monachem chokr ghunvpak laglem. Ek 8 vorsanche pirayecho bhurgo. Tiatrant 
bhumika kortana Leila-Majnu, Romeo-Juliet-achea niz mogacho ul'lekh korta. Punn 
babddeak Leila-Majnu, Romeo-Juliet him konn, khoinchim, tanche modem kitem-kat 
ghoddlem, tancho mog koslo aslo, adi. hachi taka khobor asa kai? Niz mog 
mhollear kitem tachi sari-puri kolpona hea inosent monachea bhurgeak asa kai? 
Oso niyall korit astanam monant khoim tori dislem, tiatr boroupean hea bhurgea 
kolakarachea tonddant apli philosophy ghalea.
   
  
   
  Az amchea tiatramni noveponn koxem ailam - tiatramni bhurgeank ghevop. Hea 
bhurgeanchea tonddant tiatr boroupean apli philosophy lottop ani machier ti 
vhoddlean uloupak lavop. "Mhoji avoy dusrea dadlea sangata mouza marta", 
"mummy, tuka kitem vhoddlem? Mhojea papacho mog vo tea tujea kumparicho bhog?", 
"Daddy, tujem kortub tea Himaloy dongra itlem vhodd asa, punn mhoje thaim tuzo 
sombond tea dongra itlo thondd zauncho nhoi", adi. oslim utram tiatrache 
machievelean lhan bhurgeanchea tonddantlean aikunk melltat. 
   
  Eka 8 vo 9 vorsanche pirayechea bhurgeak, "avoyn dusrea dadlea vangdda mouza 
marop" mhollear kitem hachi taka somzonni asa kai? "Papacho vo kumparicho mog" 
mhonnta tednam 'kumpar' hea utracho mullavo ani uprant tea utrak labhlolo slang 
orth taka khobor asa zait? To Himaloy dongra kodde sor korun uloyta tednam, 
Himaloy dongor kitlo vhoddlo ani to kitlo legit thondd asa hacho taka onnbhov 
na hi gozal sodduch, punn te pirayer tachean ti kolpona tori korum yeta?
   Oxea gozalincher niyall kortoch, tiatr boroun machier dakoupeamni 
bhurgeancho kelolo ho goir-vapor oxench mhonnchem poddta.
   
  Tiatr polleupeank tiatramni, cholchitramni bhurgeank polleunk khub avoddta. 
Bhurgeancho tiatr mhonntanch tiatracho vosro goch'ch bhorta. Kiteak, tiatr 
pollennarank ek tor bhurgeanchi bhumika polleupachi asta. Atam, bhurgeanchi 
bhumika mhonntana, ti bhumika bhurgeanche pirayek, monak, chalik, poristhitik 
sobta toslich zaunchi poddli. 
   
  
   
  Machier dakoylolea eka ghorabeant ghov soro piyeun yeta, aple potinik dot 
haddunk na mhunn kenddta. Tednam, machievelea tanchea lhan bhurgean tor, "pai, 
dot mhollear mon'xache hat-paim..." oxem uloylem zalear, voir ul'lekh kelolea 
nodrantlean tem koxem distelem?
   
  Az khubxea tiatramni, kolakar mhunn bhurgeancho aspav korun tankam machier 
ubim kelolim distat. Tancheo heo bhumika choddxe pavtti tea-tea tiatrache 
kotha-vostuchi (plot) goroz mhunn haddleli disona. Te bodlek addechim patram 
koxim distat ani toxim astat-ui. Tiatrancho prochar zaupak, tiatr 
polleupeanchim monam jikhpak, apunn heram poros vegllem kitem dakoyta mhunn 
sid'dh korpak bhurgeank tiatrant ghaltat. 
   
  Porinnam': Oslea tiatrancho sondex vo ugddas tiatr pollennaram aplea ghoracho 
umbro hupche poilinch visortat. Poristhiti pormannem eka bhurgeak tiatrant 
haddop, te-te poristhiti dhorun bhurgeak tacheach mona pormannem vagunk lavop, 
vo avoy-bapaychea borea vo vankddea som'bondancho porinnam' tea bhurgeancher 
koso zavop heo gozali hanvem onnbhovlolea tiatristam modem sorgest Rosario 
Rodrigues-ak boreo somzotaleo. 
   
  
   
  Bhurgeank machier haddop hantum kainch vankddem na. Punn tim machier yetat 
tednam poristhitek lagun yetat oxem dispachi goroz asa. Ani tech poristhiti 
pormannem bhurgeank tanche pirayek, mon'xastrak (psychology) sobtat tosleoch 
bhumika diupacho thokos ghevop hi dor eka borea tiatr boroupeachi ani 
dakoupeachi zababdari. 
   
  Bhurgeamni machier yeun vaddloleanchi philosophy uloun hajir asloleank 
chokasur ani ojap korop, ani bhurgeamni tiatrantlean bhurgeank kormonnuk 
(entertainment) divop heo don veg

Re: [Goanet] More on Selling Goa

2008-03-15 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The bigger danger now is Indians buying out Goa.  At
> 
> least the white man has good civic habits and SOME
> social conscience.
> 

The biggest dangers are self-hatred and servility.
Fortunately, these are dying traits among us, Indians.

Cheers,

Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 286(Police Criminal Politician Nexus

2008-03-15 Thread John Gomes

I'm being drowned by a whole lot of information about  the British mother of 
murdered teenager in Anjuna, indicted for murder when she was young and naive 
and trusting, five different fathers of  her children, her lifestyle and so on. 
CCC-IBN and NDTV showed her caravans in UK and details of how she is living on 
dole etc. They are trying to completely discredit her,take away the spotlight 
on where it should be,namely the drug mafia and easy access to all kinds of 
drugs,late night illegalities and unchecked crime thriving with 
politicians,police,mafia nexus.Latest is Fiona served with summons at 10PM, to 
report to Anjuna Police station next morning.Why at 10PM? Then tests to 
determine age of  Scarlette, so they can say she was not a minor and get those 
guys off the hook with"consensual sex"?.  Our CM says case cracked, and that 
should be the end of it!  Todays paper reports two british girls got separated 
at a Sangolda Disco at 4AM, and one went missing!Anjuna cops now in a
 tizzy, found the other missing girl, dead drunk and fast asleep on the steps 
of a guesthouse in Anjuna and reportedly escorted her home. Our Tourism 
Department AND British Embassy needs to note such profiligacy by their citizens!
Public pressure is required, to prevent further investigation and stem exposing 
,like they managed for Tehelka!The Army officers involved were punished,but 
secretaries/public officials, not only kept the money Tehelka bribed them with, 
but were promoted and are still living in style!Tehelka was hounded to penury 
and to close down! I completely agree with Marie Dsouza, and  wish Goanet can 
spearheading a campaign for using this occasion to galvanise  public opinion to 
save Goas reputation and  from becoming a crime ruled State!.

   
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Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans

2008-03-15 Thread Sachin Phadte



I do not understand what Venantius Pinto is trying to say in context of the 
subject line. The report indicates the results of a survey, and unless one says 
that it is manipulated, one should take it at face value. And if one says it is 
manipulated, one should give the reasons why one is coming to such a conclusion.

There are indeed many faults in the Indian society, and amongst the Indians. 
However, one has to see the broader picture, and this is what those who 
responded to the survey have done. 

Sachin Phadte 


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[Goanet] Dayanand Narvekar's stunt

To Goanet -

Dayanand Narvekar has today made a grandiose declaration 
that the govt is looking to ban sale of land to foreigners.  
Talk about locking the barn door after the horse has bolted.

But the real issue is the sale of Goan land to non-Goan 
Indians.  On that matter Daya-bab has nothing to say.  
Why would he, when he and his colleagues have made 
their crores by directly helping the big real estate sharks
garner acres upon acres of amche sobit Goem?

Regards,


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[Goanet] Christians in Qatar opened their first church

2008-03-15 Thread St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science & Commerce - Mapusa - Goa

 

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DOHA MARCH 14, 2008: Christians in Qatar opened their first church on Friday, 
joining fellow believers in most other Gulf Arab states who have long been able 
to worship in churches rather than homes and other venues.
  An inauguration event was held for St Mary's Roman Catholic church in Doha, 
the first of five that will be built in Qatar.
  The opening of the church was attended by high-ranking diplomats, Catholic 
religious leaders and Qatar's minister of energy and industry, Abdullah bin 
Hamad al-Attiyah.
  
  "The church will send a positive message to the world," Attiyah told 
reporters.
  The secretary of the Anglican church in neighbouring Bahrain, Yussef Haidar, 
boasts that the tiny state "hosts the first church of the Gulf region, founded 
in 1906 by American Anglican missionaries".
  Kuwait has about 10 churches.
  Complaints by some Christians that they were forced to rent private 
residences and turn them into places of worship, prompted the Kuwaiti 
government three years ago to allot two large plots of land for new churches.
  The United Arab Emirates, which prides itself on its religious tolerance and 
cultural diversity, also has several churches used by hundreds of thousands of 
Christian expats, mostly Filipinos, Indians and Arabs.
  Land for churches in Oman has been donated by Sultan Qaboos.
  However, Saudi Arabia, which adheres to a rigorous doctrine of Islam known as 
Wahhabism and is home to Islam's holiest sites, bans all non-Muslim religious 
rituals and materials.
  Gulf a haven for Christian communities
  Gulf Times
  TODAY, when the first Catholic church in Qatar is consecrated by Cardinal 
Ivan Dias at Mesaimeer, a remarkable milestone in the history of Qatar will be 
reached. Although this is the first Catholic church in Qatar, it is not the 
first church.
  Centuries ago, long before the Revelation of Islam in the 7th century AD, 
Christian communities flourished along the shores of the Arabian Gulf and 
southwards along the Indian Ocean. They were followers of the Nestorian 
doctrine, named after a Syrian monk, Nestorius, who died in 451 AD. 
  
  Christianity spread from its earliest home in Palestine and found homes among 
both Jewish and Hellenistic populations in both settled and nomadic 
territories. A 2nd century writer, Justin the Martyr, speaks of the spread of 
the faith among tented herdsmen. The first Christian king, Abgar, ruled from 
177 -212 in what is now Iraq. The earliest church building yet found, at Dura 
on the Euphrates river, dates to the 3rd century. There is evidence of 
Christian monasteries located along the overland trade routes in the region and 
acting as caravanserai.
  The historical recreation of the spread of Christianity in the Arabian Gulf 
is difficult and is complicated by the disappearance of many written records 
during the numerous early conflicts in the region. But what is known from 
Byzantine and Syrian ecclesiastical records is that there were five sees 
[bishoprics] on the western side of the Gulf by the early 5th century.
  Qatar was one of the five, and the area included the whole peninsula. Along 
with Bahrain and the eastern seaboard of Saudi Arabia, it was known by the 
Syrian name of Beth Qatraye. The diocesan bishop in Qatar from c.650 onwards 
until at least 676 was Thomas. In that year a Council was held in Qatar to deal 
with some disciplinary issues which had been troubling the Gulf churches and 
the names of several bishops who attended the Council are recorded, including 
that of Bishop Thomas.
  The see of Bahrain included the mainland, probably stretching from north of 
the present Jubail southwards through the Al Hasa oasis and including Qatif. 
Hatta is known to have had churches and bishops.
  The other sees were Darin, now known as Tarut Island and situated just off 
the coast of Saudi Arabia, Mashmahiq, which is the modern island of Muharraq, 
site of Bahrain Airport, and Uman. The see of Uman, which included Oman and 
the area included in the present-day United Arab Emirates, was based at Suhar 
and the province had links with India and East Africa.
  One of the greatest of the pre-Islamic poets, Labid, was born in the mid-6th 
century. In later life he converted to Islam and was honoured by having some of 
his work chosen as muallaqat: written in gold letters and hung inside the holy 
Kaaba. In early life Labid wrote a fascinating account of his travels down the 
east coast of Arabia and describes, as he approached settlements, the beating 
of clappers [naqus] of the churches calling the inhabitants to worship.
  To date, no structu

Re: [Goanet] Family-wise grouping of the 122languages of India

2008-03-15 Thread Venantius Pinto

Dear Pratap Naik, sj,
Thanks for this information. I have a question for you, which follows
my brief comment. For even .24% of Indians to consider Konkani as
their mother-tongue means that the majority of those speakes are in
Karnataka and elsewhere.

If posible could you kindly provide information on scripts used for
the 122 languages? I know this is a bit much to ask, but please do so
if time permits.

1. Indo-European
(a) Indo-Aryan (21languages): Bhili/Bhilodi, Bishnupuriya, Dogri(S),
Halabi, Khandeshi (Devnagiri?), Maithili (Nagari, Devnagiri?), Nepali
(Is Prachalit still in use besides Devnagiri?), and Shina
(b) Iranian (2 languages)[Ignore]
(c) Germanic (1 language)[Ignore]

2. Dravidian (17languages: Coorgi/Kodagu, Gondi, Jatapu,
Khond/Kondh,Kisan, Kolami, Konda, Koya, Kui, Kurukh/Oraon (Bengali?),
Malto, Parji

3. Austro-Asiatic (14 languages) & 4. Tibeto-Burmese (66 languages)
Many of these languages had their own scripts. Is there any info on
those that still use the native scripts.

5. Semito-Hamitic (1 language) [Ignore]

Venantius

> From: "pratap naik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Goanet] Family-wise grouping of the 122languages of India
>
> The following data respectively gives Language families, Number of
> Languages, Persons who returned the languages as their mother tongue, and
> Percentage to total population

[Goanet] Scarlett Keeling case - A tragedy just waiting to happen

2008-03-15 Thread Flower2

No one will dispute Shantaram Naik's views expressed in the Rajya Sabha that 
"it was for the family of Scarlett Keeling to see if young girls should be 
allowed to move freely at midnight on the beaches". In fact, he was only 
echoing what Chief Minister Digambar Kamat had enunciated on the national 
electronic media a couple of days earlier. However, in like manner, it may be 
pointed out that it is for the government and administration to ensure the 
prevalence of  law and order in the state. And no matter the provocative 
behaviour of tourists, there is no justification for the sorry end of this 
unfortunate waif. Our concern should be the lack of respect for the law and 
dignity of another human being, the shoddy work of the law enforcing agencies, 
and most of all our depraved environment that attracts such tourists and gives 
our kids the idea that drug running and other such dubious trades are perfectly 
acceptable ways of earning a good living. The corollary to this of course, is 
the lack of sanctity for human life - the perception that all beings are to be 
used in the fulfilment of one's desires, pleasures and selfish aspirations.

The Scarlett Keeling tragedy should shock Goans into looking beyond the 
technicalities of the police investigation, into the more profound issues 
involved for Goa and Goans. The entire unsavoury episode in fact, should compel 
us to take a long, hard look into the deeper malaise afflicting our society, 
which includes the police, the politicians, the government, the administration 
and each and every one of us Goans, who have remained mute spectators over the 
years as we permitted our culture and identity to be mercilessly eroded in a no 
holds barred chase in pursuit of the pot of gold at the end of the tourism 
rainbow.

It is an open secret that Goa has gained a well deserved international 
reputation as a destination that is willing to cater to any perversion, 
provided the price is right. And it is not surprising therefore, that "mafiosi" 
from other parts of the world have honed in on little Goa, carving out 
"territories" under their jurisdiction, exposing  in the process, the 
deplorable condition of law, order, governance and indeed, calling into 
question the very sovereignty of our state.

This was a catastrophe just waiting to happen. Surely, police intelligence 
could not have been ignorant of the innumerable illegal and unlawful acts that 
were being committed over the years to pander to the tourism trade. Their 
deliberate dereliction of duty in turning a benevolent blind eye to all the 
shady deals has been responsible for unleashing a "free for all" atmosphere, 
where anything and everything is acceptable.

The issue here, is not Fiona McKeown's alleged negligence as a parent, or 
Scarlett Keeling's morality. Hopefully this family will soon fly back home and 
become the problem of the British government. The focus for us Goans should be 
on what we are doing to our kids - youngsters like the duo who have been 
arraigned in this case. Youngsters who have in all probability grown up in the 
decadent environment of the coastal tourism belt, where drugs and other forms 
of permissive behaviour are a way of life. Youngsters that are part of a 
desensitised community that has lost its dignity, integrity and devalued its 
precious heritage by turning it into a pitiful caricature in a desperate sprint 
to worship at the temple of materialism. We have bred a confused, lost 
generation precariously negotiating a disastrous path through the squalid bye 
lanes of the life that we have created for them.

At least now, let us not squander our outrage. Let us as a community, 
collectively demand from our ruling elite, the decent governance that we so 
desperately require. Let us cultivate and adhere to our own standards and 
values instead of blindly emulating much vaunted global norms and culture that 
are being insidiously imposed upon us so that our tourism reflects what we 
really are. Yes, let us get off the disastrous path we are traversing. Because 
time has run out. We have reached the precipice. And our children are paying a 
heavy price.

Diana Pinto

[Goanet] Recommendations of the International Semi nar on "Natural Area Tourism: Impacts, Planni ng and Management


Recommendations of the International Seminar on

"Natural Area Tourism: Impacts, Planning and Management"

held at The International Centre, Dona Paula on

14th and 15th February 2008



The one hundred and fifty delegates of the International Seminar on "Natural 
Area Tourism: Impacts, Planning and Management"  organized by the School of 
Business Studies and Management of St. Xavier's College, Mapusa, in 
association with the Department of Tourism - Government of Goa, The Travel 
and Tourism Association of Goa (TTAG) and The International centre Goa 
(ICG), do hereby appreciate the initiative taken by the organizers and make 
the following recommendations, indicating also the parties that have to take 
necessary action:




 a.. To encourage community ownership of the Natural Area Tourism projects.
Action:  Governments and NGOs.



 a.. To help locals to identify the natural assets their locality possesses 
and to preserve what they have.

Action:  Governments, NGOs and locals.



 a.. To assist locals in setting up their own enterprises related to 
Natural Area Tourism.

Action:  Governments and Financial Institutions.



 a.. Capacity Building of those who are involved in the Tourism Industry 
such as taxi drivers, motorcycle pilots, hotel employees, etc., with the 
help of appropriate programmes such as etiquette, language skills, computer 
skills etc.

Action:  Governments, Educational Institutions and NGOs.



 a.. To educate tour/travel operators, as well as tourists, regarding 
garbage disposal and to make ample provision of attractive bins.

Action:  Governments, Hotels, Stores, Site managers, NGOs etc.



 a.. To set and manage National/State Parks specific to butterflies, birds, 
crocodiles, leopards, deer, mangroves, etc. with restricted core areas and 
open areas, as well as sanctuaries, community reserves, reserved forests, 
ecologically sensitive areas, coastal areas etc.

Action:  Governments.



 a.. To encourage beach decongestion, and to execute meticulously the Beach 
Management Plan after formulating it wherever not available.

Action:  Government, Corporations, Municipalities and Panchayats.



 a.. To offer better and comfortable infrastructure leading to and around 
the Natural Area Tourism Sites, which should be well maintained with 
sanitation facilities, communication facilities and appropriate security.

Action:  Governments.



 a.. To clean, manage and protect the existing water bodies like the 
springs, tanks, lakes, rivers etc.
Action:  Governments, Corporations, Municipalities, Panchayats, Local 
Communities and NGOs




 a.. To provide incentives to locals interested / involved in Natural Area 
Tourism.

Action:  Governments, NGOs and Banks



 a.. To assist educational institutions, to create the much required 
trained manpower for the tourism industry.

Action:  Governments, Educational Institutions and NGOs



 a.. Goa should not be a transit point, but the resources generated by the 
tourism should be ploughed back into Goa.

Action:  Governments.



 a.. There should not be any compromise with those factors that attract 
tourists to Goa such as hospitable nature of the people, natural beauty, 
beaches, safety, etc. so as to avoid the downfall of tourism.
Action:  Governments, Corporations, Municipalities, Panchayats, NGOs and 
Locals.




 a.. To encourage visitors and locals to respect nature and natural areas.
Action: All



 a.. To foster network of Communities related to Natural Area Tourism to 
provide opportunities to learn from each other.

Action: Governments and NGOs.



 a.. Successes in the Natural Area Tourism need to be documented. This 
publicity will encourage tourists, as well as the prospective entrepreneurs.



Action:  St. Xavier's College with the assistance of the Directorate of 
Tourism, Government of Goa.




 a.. A nodal agency to be set up by the Governments to plan, identifies, 
promotes and monitor Natural Area Tourism.



Action:  Respective Governments.



 a.. To assist in the setting up of an Institute for Tourism Studies at St. 
Xavier's College.



Action:  Government of Goa & St. Xavier's College.

[Goanet] Cyrus, Anurag to be felicitated

2008-03-15 Thread Goanet Sports


Goa State Champion Anurag Mhamal and Asian Schools
Under 11 Gold Medallist Cyrus Perreira will be
felicitated during the upcoming Goa State 
Subjunior (Under 15) Chess Championship

which will be organised at the Mir Sultan Khan Chess
Academy, Sanvordem in the near future.

In January, Anurag (ELO 2106) registered Goa's best ever
rating performance at the Parsvanath Open Chess
Championships where he managed to draw with 4
International Masters besides beating a couple of
top rated players. He was also awarded the 'Outstanding
Player Award' by GENO and the Sports Journalists
Association of Goa in 2007. Anurag's next tournaments include
the FIDE Open Rating tournament in Trichur in April
and the very strong International Grandmaster tournament
in Mumbai in the month of May. His Goan statemates Umang
Kaisary and Niraj Saripalle will join him in participating
in both these events.


The first Goan boy to win an international medal Cyrus
Perreira will also be felicitated simultaneously. Cyrus
(ELO 1870) won the Gold Medal at the Under 11 
section of the Asian Schools Chess Championships 
held in Sri Lanka in January this year. Both the kids
are coached by Akash Thakur of Nagpur, widely 
considered one of the outstanding coaches in India.
When contacted, Akash mentioned that both the 
players would 'go on to win greater laurels for both

Goa and the country'.

AICF Vice President Sameer A. Salgaocar mentioned that
there has been renewed interest among corporates to sponsor
upcoming chess players in Goa such as Cyrus and Anurag. 
Presently, Woman FIDE Master and reigning National Junior

Girls Champion is the Brand Ambassador for Monginis,
a leading confectionary manufacturer in India. 'We have also
received tremendous support from the Sports Authority of
Goa and hopefully this trend will continue', Salgaocar
stated.


SOURCE: Sameer Salgaocar - Vice President, All-India Chess Federation

[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 37

2008-03-15 Thread Shanti Dhoot

Anjuna is now almost every day very much in the news

Of a kind it could very well do without, if it were able to choose.

I wonder what the simple folk of that village think

Of how low the reputation of its people can sink

And how it has now been able its former innocence to lose.

- Shanti Dhoot

[Goanet] Distribution of Non-Scheduled languages spoken as mother tongue and number of persons in Goa according Census 2001

2008-03-15 Thread pratap naik


Distribution of Non-Scheduled languages spoken as mother tongue and number
of persons in Goa according Census 2001: Descending orderNon-scheduled
languages are those which are not included officially in the Eighth Schedule
of the Constitution of India.



Non-scheduled languages are those which are not included officially in the
Eighth  Schedule of the Constitution of India.

English 8,190;
Other languages 1949;
Tulu 796;
Kurukh/Oraon 143;
Bhili/Bhilodi 94;
Tibetan 92;
Arabic/Arbi 37;
Coorgi/Kodagu 26;
Lahnda 26;
Munda  18;
Kharia 15;
Khasi 13;
Adi 11;
Gondi 10;
Lushai/Mizo 10;
Konda 8;
Koda 7;
Korku 7;
Kuki 7;
Bhumij 6;
Garo 6;
Kisan 6;
Angami 5;
Gadaba 4;
Tripuri 4;
Halabi 3;
Mundari 3;
Nicobarese3;
Parji 2;
Sherpa 2;
Tangsa 2;
Anal 1;
Konayak 1;
Korwa 1;
Lotha 1;
Nissi/Dafla 1;
Persian 1;
Zeliang 1;
Zou 1;

Pratap Naik, S.J.
Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr
B.B.Borkar Road
AltoPorvorim
Goa - 403 521

[Goanet] PICK OF THE WEEK: The unrepentant boy who sneezed first


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Letter to the Editor
from Remo
in Gomantak Times dated 6th March 2008
  _
   
  AaaaCH!!!
   
  In this little land where we ourselves admit to having a crab mentality, I'm 
proud of the fact that I have never ever been the first to critcize or attack 
anyone either in print or otherwise. I've stooped to answer back some people 
when their attacks on me reached abnormal levels of stupidity and put them in 
their place, yes. I've attacked my darling corrupt politicians, yes. 
   
  But I've never been the first to attack a lay person, certainly never a 
fellow artist or writer, however much I may have disagreed with his work. There 
are two reasons for this. 
  One, I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Two, I just don't 
find it important enough to waste my time critisizing others.
   
  I'm therefore amazed at the importance I'm given by some in our little Goa. 
  Every time I sneeze, so many so-called intellectuals jump up to comment on 
it: editors of dailies, editors of weeklies, columnists, humorists, writers of 
letters-to-the-editor, etc. 
  Wow!  I'm touched. 
   
  Thanks fellas, but I'm really not that important, you know. Don't get so 
psyched by my achievements, titles, awards etc. 
  Breathe easy, don't feel  threatened or jealous. I'm just an ordinary normal 
guy doing his thing. Promise.
   
  So excuse me for sneezing, but get on with your lives. And if you dont
have a life please get one.
   
  Remo Fernandes
  Siolim
   
  Courtesy: 
  Gomantak Times - Goencheo Hunhunit Khobro
   
  - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com 
   
  
   

   
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Re: [Goanet] The truth about 'Good Life' of murdered teenager Scarlett Keeling (Tom Rawstorne, Daily Mail)

2008-03-15 Thread Anthony C. L. Fernandes

Assuming that the below article  "Truth about good life" of the murdered 
teenager is what is says, who and how is the poor mother is coping with 
expenses in India and UK? Who is financing her? Is there a sinister side of 
this saga?


Is this a cover up or inplant for some bigger plans by some behind the scene 
interested parties (Perhaps Mafias operating Norther Goa)?


How come this angle is so far is ignored? The whole thing seems very 
strange?


Again, arresting the so called murderers, is end of the problem? What is 
Government and NGOs are planning to do to get rid of these bad elements once 
for all from the soil of our Goa?


Regards

A. Fernandes
Dubai

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Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans

2008-03-15 Thread Mervyn Lobo

Mario Goveia wrote:
> India is growing as a popular destination for American tourists and 
> businessmen, and even more would come 
> if they didn't hear so many stories in the news about rape and murder and 
> corruption and poverty and civic 
> carelessness, i.e filth, inadequate sanitation systems, spitting all over the 
> place, public urinitating and 
> defecating, throwing thrash in public places and driving without 
> consideration for anyone else.

Mario,
Americans would feel at home with the rape, murder, poverty, civil 
carelessness, etc. 
After all, isn't the US the world leader in these fields?

Mervyn3.0
Police were called to a daycare where a three-year-old was resisting a rest.

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Re: [Goanet] BJP is not an option for GOA

2008-03-15 Thread Carvalho

Rajan Dear,

Considering all that I've flung at you in the recent
past, if you're still chuckling nay laughing at my
posts, I take it all is forgiven then :-)

Incidentally, Ole Tom is a three times Pulitzer Prize
winner and has been writing about Terrorism in the
Middle East before the likes of Harris, Dawkins and
Hitchens made it fashionable to do so, and might I add
his observations are a lot more astute and egalitarian
than theirs.

best,
selma

--- "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To Goanet -
> 
> I had a few chuckles reading Selma's pap on BJP's
> virtues.
> But I fell out of my chair when I saw this:
> 
> >Thomas Friedman, well versed in the Middle East,
> blah blah 
> 
> Bwahahahahahahaha.  Is this the same Thomas "Flat
> Earth" Friedman
> who has been spectacularly wrong on just about
> everything on
> the Middle East the past 5-6 years?  He could sure
> do with Selma's
> warm endorsement.
> 
> Those who still live in 4-dimensional spacetime
> (which, alas,
> excludes Selma) may see -
> 
> http://agonist.org/files/active/1/finalfugl2.jpg
> 
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> 
> r
> 
> 
> 

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[Goanet] Confusion over tourist's death.

2008-03-15 Thread Averthan D'Souza


Dear Editor,

   The discussion in the media about the unfortunate death of the 
British teenager Scarlette Keeling is hotting up, but at the same time is 
confusing the real issue.   There have been many questions raised about the 
irresponsibility of Scarlette's mother who left her minor daughter in the 
care of a local tourist guide whom she barely knew.   Her irresponsibility 
is further highlighted in the British Press by the revelation that she has 
had nine children by five different men and that she seems to have evolved 
her own personal code of ethics.   However, all this is besides the point. 
Questions have been raised in Parliament about the need for the 
investigation to be handed over to the CBI.   The Government has turned down 
this request on the ground that maintenance of law and order is a State 
subject, and that the Central Government is not authorized  to interfere in 
the ongoing investigations.


   The real issue, however, is not the investigation into the 
alleged murder of the British teenager, but the role of the Goa Police in 
the entire episode.   Fiona McKeown,  the mother of the murdered girl, in 
her letter to the Prime Minister of India, explicitly accuses the Goa Police 
of obfuscating the investigations.  She also explicitly alleges a nexus 
between the Police and the drug mafia which is operating in the coastal belt 
of Goa.   Surely these are more fundamental (and more serious) issues which 
need to be looked into by the Central Government.   What is at stake here is 
the complete breakdown of the law enforcement machinery in Goa, which is 
most certainly the responsibility of the Central Government.   Allegations 
are flying around, including some by police officers who request anonymity, 
that the drug mafia has practically taken control of the functioning of the 
police department.  They influence the direction of the investigations and 
even determine the outcome of the investigations.


   The citizens of Goa have, for a long time,  been aware of the 
proliferation of drugs and alcohol  in the coastal belts of Goa.  They have 
been aware of the collusion between the police and the criminals.   Now the 
police themselves are alleging (anonymously) political patronage of the drug 
mafia.


   The situation is too serious to be left in the hands of a 
tainted police administration.   The corruption has spread too deep and too 
wide.   It is high-time that the Central Government institute a high level 
judicial investigation into the functioning of the Goan police 
administration and indicate remedial actions which need to be taken.



Yours truly,
Averthanus L. D'Souza

[Goanet] "Most of us live in happy denial; w e are never tested”_The Standford Experiment

2008-03-15 Thread Venantius Pinto

A few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to make acquaintance with two
individuals, one of whom mentioned The Standford Experiment, during a
segway -- while briefly talking about The Stockholm Syndrome.

Consider reading the following article, Is There a Dark Side in All of
Us? by Elizabeth Heathcote, The Independent UK at:
http://www.alternet.org/story/79540/?page=4

venantius

[Goanet] Framework to Interview Manohar Parrikar- Burying the hatchet

2008-03-15 Thread sandeep heble

On Goanet, Pravin Sabnis wrote:
I have no opposition to your video interviews of politicians, because
it seeks to make the politician answerable to the queries on his
policies and politics.

I would second Pravin's views on this. I too have no problems per se
with politicians being interviewed on Goanet and I am all for
intelligent discourses, discussions and debates of this kind and of
this nature. To that extent, I would join you in patting Dr Anand on
his back for his innovative initiative.

Let me clarify that I have no bones to pick with Dr Anand or Rajan and
I am not in any way writing all this for a one -upsmanship and/or to
cause embarrassment of any kind to them or anybody else for that
matter. I accept Dr Anand's contentions that his intentions were
honest, sincere and transparent but if his well-intended venture is
generating more heat than light then he has no one but himself and
Rajan to blame for all this.

There are a lot of issues that have cropped up on account of Dr
Anand's inconsistency and Rajan's stubborn, uncompromising, unethical
and illogical stand in this whole gloomy interview episode. I am
writing this as I feel that both Rajan and Dr Anand are being unfair
and inequitable to Goanet and its members.

I will try to summarize the sequence of events on this subject to
clarify what exactly many of us are objecting to, in the hope that
better sense prevails upon both Dr Anand and Rajan; and together they
adopt postures that are fair, just and equitable to all concerned.

The sequence of Events so far:

1.  Dr Anand moots the initial proposal of uploading an interview of
Manohar Parrikar exclusively on the Goanet Forum, with Parrikar
fielding questions exclusively from Goanetters. In his post, Dr Anand
solicits questions from Goanetters for the said interview.

2.  Though Dr Anand errs in not taking prior approval from the Goanet
Moderators for this venture, he makes amends in the course of future
discussions and deliberations by making it clear to them that they are
free to set their own guidelines for the interview and choose their
own list of moderators who will prepare the final slate of questions.

3.  Dr Anand also mentions here, at this stage, that he has spoken to
Rajan Parrikar to conduct the interview and Rajan has agreed.

4.  After the initial hiccups and after taking into consideration the
great deal of interest that this interview has generated, the Goanet
moderators give their stamp of approval to Dr Anand's proposal and set
a few guidelines to conduct the interview, which are by and large
fair.

5.  All's well that would have ended well here, but this episode gets
an expected Villain. Rajan Parrikar! Rajan acts as stubborn as a mule,
throws several tantrums and begins to behave like a Don. A few try to
make Rajan see reason but they fail. After all, "Don ko Convince karna
Mushkil hi nahin, namunkim hai". Dr Anand goes into hibernation at
this stage while Rajan begins messing things up by putting a spanner
in the proposal.

6.  Rajan does a Goebbels on Goanet. If you repeat a LIE a few times,
it may well end up sounding like the truth. Rajan says that they will
implement the interview as per their initial plan and initial vision,
a big LIE since the initial plan and initial vision was Dr Anand's and
Rajan had nothing to do with it. By Dr Anand's own admission, he
sought Rajan's permission to be the interrogator only at a belated
stage.

7.  Rajan also says that they had made it clear from the start that
they would use Goanet only to solicit questions and they would
implement the whole interview the way they had planned it in the first
place. Another big LIE, as these statements are contrary to Dr Anand's
own utterings which are again on record.

8.  Rajan modifies, reframes and rewrites all the questions submitted
by the vast Goanetters and decides for himself which questions shall
be asked and which questions must be deleted. Rajan does not deem it
fit to give individual credit to the Goanetters who have spent so much
of their time, efforts and energies in preparing/ submitting these
questions.

9.  Rajan thus does a K.P.S Gill on the Goanetters. Gill, it may be
recalled, had rewarded 6 members of the Asian Gold Cup Winning Team by
giving them the unceremonious sack. Rajan does the same, says that
Goanetters have not been asked to spend a nickel or burn a molecule of
their sweat and must therefore go and take a hike. Application of mind
and effort obviously means nothing to Rajan. Thoughts and ideas
similarly have zilch value to him. He feels that he is therefore
justified in not giving the due credit to the vast Goanetters who have
prepared/ submitted their questions; after all, as Miguel has rightly
pointed out, he is doing all this for a cause.

10. Rajan says that he is free to(and he may) publish this interview
on other fora and other media outlets, even though Dr Anand in his
initial proposal made it abundantly clear that Ma

[Goanet] Goans in the Middle East in pain !

2008-03-15 Thread Mario Goveia

Thu Mar 13 03:47:56 PDT 2008
Gabe Menezes gabe.menezes at gmail.com wrote:
>
Yes USD interest rates touched 23 percent for one year money, during that 
period. 
>
Mario responds:
>
At first glance this looked like an excerpt from the article.  Then I realized 
it was the poster's own editorial comment - it was hard to tell when the switch 
took place. 
>
Though the article said that interest rates had gone over 20% I was unable to 
find any evidence that the interest rate in the US had gone as high as 23% for 
one year money.   Maybe I did not look in the right place.  I would appreciate 
it if someone could cite some source to support this claim.   
>
By the way, anyone familiar with economics would know that a relatively free 
market economy like the US routinely experiences business cycles.  They used to 
be every three to four years, but, ever since the Federal Reserve has figured 
out how to keep inflation low, the cycles have expanded to seven to eight 
years, which is what the last two business cycles in the US have been.  The 
slowdowns have never lasted very long, even the last one in 2000 - 2001 which 
was exacerbated by the economic effect of the 9/11 attack.
>
Gabe Menezes wrote:
>
In Toledo Ohio they are giving them away, for free, Check it out :-
http://www.realtor.com/search/searchresults.aspx?ctid=4180&ml=3&mxp=29&typ=7&sid=b64c3b8d81624f8eb141b574a94bf7f9&pg=1
>
Mario responds:
>
I was really excited when I saw this information since I live near Toledo and 
thought I could add to my growing list of real-estate properties at no cost, so 
I ran out to capture the market for $0 price houses.  The realtor I called 
thought I was nuts.  I cited this thread and demanded they give me all those 
houses, immediately.
>
Unfortunately, what I found was that the Realtor.com website shows homes 
scheduled for auction as $0 because no specific asking price has been set.  
Some of these single-family houses with large yards in nice neighborhoods have 
minimum bid prices that sound like the ridiculous prices they pay for the 
walk-up tenements in London.  People familiar with how Realtor.com operates 
knew this, whereas I did not.  I need to be more careful what I believe in 
future. 
>
I should have known there's no such thing as a free lunch, ...er, home!
>

[Goanet] Goa govt bans sale of land to foreigners