Son'varachim Sungttam: G�ykarancho Otmo!
Son'varachim Sungttam gõYkarancho Otmo! - Jose Salvador Fernandes Goroz bhasli tednam don-tin khepo Mumboi vochun ailom. Mumboi vochpa khatir bosin provas kela title-i pavtti mhojea mhakach ek onnbhov meulo. Moddganvchean Mumboi vochpak suttleli bos, mannkulea Gõychi xim' utrun vorixtt Maharaxttrant proves korpa khatir vegan dhanvta, tednam hanv porki vattarant bhitor sorlam mhonnpachem monant ghunvot ravta. Uprant hem prokiponn mhoji savlli zal'le porim mhojeach sangata ravta ani porot-porot toch porkeaponnacho bhas korta. Tum porki vattarant asa. Hea porki vattarant tuzo mayecho konn na. Hea porki vattarant tum je dis, vell sartolo, te tum meklleponnan sarcho na. Choddso vell - dis porkeponna khala chepotuch sartolo. Punn jednam sangata aslelim her Gõykar bhav-bhoinni tea porki vattarant legit Konknnintlean gozali-khobro kortat teo mhojea kanar sadoutoch, hanv Gõychea Gõyant aslolea vori mhaka dista. Mhoje maincho konn tori mhoje sorbhonvtim asloleachi khos bhogta. Hi khos toxich lambchi lamb bhogche khatir ani tantuntlean mhoji fattich soddinaslelea porkiponnacher khontt marun konnxak sorchem mhunn, mhojem dhean-mon-kan bosint amche bhaxentlean uloyteleanche gozalim kodde mud'dom zaun 'tune' kortam. Sollavea-sotravea xekddeantlea ani tea adlea legit Konknnichea itihasachim panam niyallachim oklam laun vachunk boslear, tea kallar Gõyant Konknni bhaxechem sthan kitem aslem, ti koxi gholltali ani te ghollnnentlean fuddarak vingodd-vingodd prokaram udexim sahit'yachea girest daizan ti koxi fulot-palet ravli tachi vollokh ghoddta. Tea kallar Gõyant Konknni bhas bori ful'li. Prouddtayek (adulthood) pavli. Tizli. Oxem zata-zata, Gõy Konknnichem mullpitt zalem. Punn az hea mullpittachi il'li-il'li korun mullavi bhas kosllot vochunk suru zalea mhonnpachem amkam disun yeta. Eka kallar, Gõykar mhollear Konknni monis aslo. Punn aicho Gõykar Konknni monis soddun her sogllem zala. Aichea Gõychea Konknneak Konknni mhonnona borabor tachem tondd bavta, kusta. Aichea Konknnea hujir vo samkar Konknnicheo khobro ulounk laglear, tachea tonddar Konknni bhaxechea sombondan dvesachim chin'nam distat. Az Gõychea sorvsadaronn lonknneak aple bhaxechi il'li-i umed na. Thokos gheun, vegllea-vegllea rupan tika khelloupachi gozal sodduch. Lojechi gozal mhollear taka aplich bhas uloupak loz dista, unneponn bhogta. Az taka aple bhaxecho samball korunk - Konknni potram-masikank jairati divop, tim viktim gheun vachop, tim chaluch urchim mhunn aplea thaim ghoddta ti mozot divop - kuddik, monak ani bolsak boll ason-ui to durboll zata. Apnnak aple bhaxe thaim bandilki asa hachi zann ason-ui to aplech bhaxecho porki zala. Gõy ani Konknni - hankam konnacheanuch, kednach chorun vhorunk vo toddpak zaina toslo sombond asa. Gõy mhonntanch Konknni monis ubo zata. Gõykaranche he Konknni bhaxent tacho jiv asa. Tacho otmo asa. Vollokh asa. Identity asa. Konknni bhaxent Gõykaranchem girest oxem daiz asa. Punn aichea Gõyantli Konknni pillgi hea girest daizacher thukot asa. Gõy ani Konknni hea sombondacher visor ghalit asa. Tech khatir aicho Gõykar aplea uloupantlean, chalint-lean, nhespantlean pox'chimi sur ugddapo korta. Sogllech Gõykar tor utt'ttam-bostam Gõy ani Konknnicho sombondh aple veglle chali-ritintlean tor oxech osokt korit ravle zalear, Konknni mati khait ravteli. Ani oxem zait zalear, kall sorta-sorta, anik ek sonvskrutay fukott na-nopoxchat zateli. Konknni bhas hi protek Gõykaranchi avoy-bhas. Konknni hi protek Gõykaracho atmo asa. He Konknni bhaxent Gõykaranchi identity (khaxeleponn) asa. Itlench nhoi, tor Konknni bhas hi dor eka Gõykaracho fatti-konno. Ho amcho fatti-konno he fuddem matui bagonk favona. Ho amcho otmo amich marun uddounk tor matui favona. Fuddem yetelea xekddeantuch nhoi, tor te poros-ui fuddem ho amcho fatti-konno nitt ubo dovrun, Konknnichi khori, niz seva-chakri korun amche sonvskrutayecho atmo jivo dovrunk amche bhitorli favo titli tank asa kay? 19/4/2008 (c) Prof. Jose Salvador Fernandes http://www.goa-world.com/ Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ http://sonvarchimsungttam.blogspot.com/ Arancha Mascarenhas: Gõychem Udetem Noketr www.v-ixtt.com www.goa-world.com/goa/music/ Save as to download star_tip_hat_md_wht.gif! src=http://eknp.com/clipart/ani/star_tip_hat_md_wht.gif;AITARACHEO KATKUTLEO Lapitt Don Tonddanche Monis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/18840 Khoinchea-Khoim Tenkovche Nhoi. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/18728 BRESTAR - PODD'DEA FATTLEAN !!! - Wilmix Wilson Mazarello http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/18807 http://brestarpodddeafattlean.blogspot.com/2008/03/pordddea-fattlean.html http://youtube.com/watch?v=-jXmU_x5mKk Poilem Konkani e-cinema BLACK
Re: [Goanet] Remo holds free concert to create awareness on global warming
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why I did not ask Helga and Joachim to evaluate the personal opinions on climate change of political bloggers and web masters. Helga and Joaquim were asked to do something even worse - to take a $150,000 challenge offered by some non-scientific website (http://www.ultimateglobalwarmingchallenge.com/) to prove that global warming is due to human activities. This challenge is not being offered by any scientist or any genuine scientific organization. What should one call such tactics? As I had said earlier, such tactics are also being adopted by HIV/AIDS denialists. They also have a small band of scientists supporting their cause e.g. Peter Duesberg and Nobel laureate Kary Mullis who have written many articles in the popular press about their denial of HIV/AIDS. As a matter of fact, on another front the creationist Kent Hovind is offering $250,000 for anyone who can prove the theory of evolution. So far, there are no takers there, as well. Most reasonable people know that if scientists have a legitimate challenge or criticism against any scientific idea or finding, they publish it in a peer-reviewed journal. They do not publish it in newspaper Op-Eds, private websites, signed petitions and political propaganda literature. Helga or Joaquim will correct me if I am mistaken about this. But in my assessment, none of the scientists who have offered skeptical comments on global warming in Op-Eds, news items, etc., circulated in this forum and elsewhere, have published any well-supported argument in any high profile peer-reviewed scientific journal, against, for instance, the latest IPCC consensus statement about climate change and its effects. Write-ups about the IPCC statement were published in SCIENCE, one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world. Nobody laughed at it. In fact, none of the climate change skeptics have published any original research data of their own disputing the findings of scientists who have concluded that anthropogenic climate change is taking place, and is already showing detrimental effects. John Christy and Roy Spencer had to recently offer corrections to a small discrepancy that they thought they had found several years ago. Cheers, Santosh --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead, I asked them to evaluate for the rest of us reports of the strange methodology being used by the IPCC to develop their reports, a methodology that would be laughed off campus at any respectable institution of higher learning; as well as articles authored by some of the top climate scientists in their field, like Dr. John Christy, Dr. Richard Lindzen and Dr. David Archibald, who included a detailed pdf file of his professional opinion that we need MORE CO2, not less, to make it easier for his critics to review.
[Goanet] Goa Liberation or Invasion Day ??
Goa was Liberated only in the History books of India, and opportunists politicians;whereas the actual facts all over the world is to the contrary. I am not speaking my views, but if you can read Portuguese please go to this site: http://diario.iol.pt/noticia.html?id=758914div_id=4071 You will open up your minds to actual facts. Who actually are Liberated in Goa are scoundrels and thieves that had no place in civilised era before 1961. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. Qatar Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. M.B.,B.S.(Bom) Margão - GOATel : + 91 . 832 . 2703 100. Qatar. Tel : +974 . 458.6326. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] Adues Goan song
WELCOME TO EDU'S MUSIC COLLECTION Adues Goan song *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkzwaNDLz0*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkzwaNDLz0 edu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Goenkars: nota bene.
and /and, Bnd, Bn/ conj 1 a used to show addition: o dogs and cats; b used in sums of addition: o two and two make four. 2 a used to connect an action that follows as a result or reason of a previous one: o fall and bang one's head; b used to connect an action that follows sequentially on from another: o boil the kettle and make the tea. 3 used to show repetition or duration: o She cried and cried. 4 used to show progression: o The crowd got bigger and bigger. 5 used to show variety or contrast: o discussed the ins and outs of it. 6 used after some verbs instead of to: o come and try o go and get it. noun an unspecified problem or matter o no ifs or ands about it. [Anglo-Saxon.] and although it sometimes regarded as poor style, it is not ungrammatical to begin a sentence with and. Indeed, many writers have done so with considerable effect. It is also common in conversation and in forms of English in which a looser grammatical structure is appropriate. Ends from Chambers Dictionary. Comment: These days I guess anything goes. See it frequently on Goanet. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Authorities remove mysterious cross from Miramar beach
Authorities remove mysterious cross from Miramar beach NT Staff Reporter Panaji, April 18 A huge wooden cross, almost 5 metres in height, which was mysteriously planted the day before yesterday night on Miramar beach, was removed by CCP workers late tonight. The CCP workers accompanied by policemen brought the cross down, carried it across the sand and put it into a waiting municipality truck and took it to its next resting place, which is the St Inez church. The mayor has confirmed this. The cross embedded in concrete and towering on the banks of the Miramar shore, was already beginning to create a controversy even though it was only two days old. Reports say that some people from a certain Christian sect erected the cross after getting it fabricated at a services workshop. The erection was done early morning and even the surrounding shopkeepers deny any knowledge of when it was erected. The shop owners came to know about this only in the morning. However, there are a lot of theories over how it was brought, with some shop owners propounding the theory that it was brought on a boat and was put up in the middle of night. The CCP mayor, Mr Tony Rodrigues, speaking to The Navhind Times said, he had spoken to the priest about the cross and only after that the decision to remove the cross was made. Sources say that the decision was hastened as some people had threatened to build a temple next to it if it is allowed to remain at its present location. There were many onlookers to see the cross during the day as this news spread around the city. www.navhindtimes.com - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCMjzYA3_U Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter (Since 1994) archived at http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ Moderated by Gaspar Almeida presented by Ulysses Menezes http://youtube.com/watch?v=-jXmU_x5mKk - 1st Konkani e-cinema shortly releasing in 'Goa' - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] The shrink-wrapping of Goa
The shrink-wrapping of Goa By Rahul Goswami (Independent journalist and researcher based in Goa.) Goa's chief minister and senior administrators have become adept at parading a dubious set of indices to pretend that high literacy, overflowing bank deposits and stunning scenery make the year-round holiday destination India's most coveted living space. Today, Goa's midland villages are anything but that. The tourism euro has passed them by, and their fields have either been rendered uncultivable by the wastes from iron ore mining or are being gobbled up by property developers and promoters of industrial zones. In desperation and outrage, village groups began banding together in 2006 to confront the problem. First, they documented the acquisitions and listed the likely impacts of unplanned industrial development in which they were neither considered nor consulted. Next, they petitioned government and local authorities. Then they agitated. Finally, they physically stopped such work on their ground, being forced to take over an important responsibility of the state government. The closing weeks of 2007 again brought the people of Goa out into the streets to protest the threat of widespread dispossession of land. This had happened early in 2007 too, when the state-wide agitation against the now-scrapped Regional Plan 2011 peaked. There have been attempts to politically neutralise the anti-SEZ groupings by the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party just as much as the ruling Congress has sought to soft-pedal the issue by calling for the three notified SEZs to be denotified and the remainder to be rejected. The anti-SEZ groups remain wary however, for the Regional Plan experience is still fresh: for months the state government ignored continuing land use violations that effectively took forward the massive property developments envisioned in the scrapped plan. The re-awakening of the don't touch our land sentiment within so short a period is an indicator of much deeper problems that simmer in Goa, a number of them shared with communities elsewhere in India that face the industrialisation-urbanisation onslaught. On December 10, 2007 the Federation of Gawda Kunbi Velip Dhangar (Gakuved), a social justice combine representing Goa's scheduled tribes and indigenous communities and comprising 12% of the state's population, held a public meeting in the southern taluka of Quepem. They spoke out against human rights abuse and the excesses of illegal mining. Three days later, on December 14, a public meeting called by the SEZ Virodhi Manch in Madgaon (south Goa district headquarters) was emphatically responded to by urban and rural Goans alike. Finally, on December 19, which is Goa Liberation Day, resolutions opposing SEZs were passed by a number of gram sabhas across the state. Goa's current administration has sought to deflect criticism and blame by assuring citizens that SEZs will not be built. Yet the same state has through a statutory corporation -- the Goa Industrial Development Corporation (GIDC) -- favoured SEZ promoters, as uncovered and documented by the SEZ Virodhi Manch. More at: http://infochangeindia.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=705 2Itemid=112 ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] NYTimes.com: The Voice of Bollywood, in the Flesh
This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI BOSCO, F.N AND GOANET. HERE'S ONE FOR ASHA BHOSLE FANS. PL. LIST. THANK YOU, RUBY GOES. ARTS / MUSIC | April 19, 2008 Music Review | Asha Bhosle: The Voice of Bollywood, in the Flesh By JON PARELES Asha Bhosle, who turns 75 in September, is probably the most recorded singer in history. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/arts/music/19asha.html?ex=1209268800en=b2e7538e2a7da67bei=5070emc=eta1 -- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company
Re: [Goanet] THE DESECRATION OF GOA: A MANIFESTO FOR CHANGE
To Goanet - Carpetbaggers are desperate to make themselves relevant, begging of us Goans to take notice by dumping a crate or two of woolly-headed senti treacle. Sorry, wrong number. Goa will be - and can only be - saved by Goans. Not by imposters lecturing us on how to attain Mahatma-hood while our land is being usurped and our cultural identity is being erased through demographic warfare. Not by pea-brained horse manure-peddling traitors (of the everybody who lives in Goa is a Goan kind). Things are on the boil now, and an eruption is overdue. Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Chak de India
Chak de India http://youtube.com/watch?v=X8RV8tLUcNg Very short, less than 30 secs [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] Sporting Clube in semifinals
Sporting Clube in semifinals KANNUR: Sporting Clube de Goa made good use of the chances that came its way to score a 2-1 win over Kerala XI and enter the semifinals of the second E.K. Nayanar Memorial Gold Cup football tournament at the Municipal Jawahar Stadium here on Friday. The Goans also did a favour to Ferroviaria, Sao Paulo, ensuring a semifinal berth for the Brazilian side as well, as Kerala XI, with its second loss in the four-team Group 'A,' has gone out of the tournament along with Mohammedan AC, Kolkata, which faces Ferroviaria on Saturday. The only thing that the match could decide is who would top the pool. Fred Mascarenhas and Viera Fernandes scored for Sporting in the second-half, after local lad K.V. Kalesh, who was named Man of the Match, put Kerala XI ahead in the first. The home side, expectedly, played some attractive football and actually created more scoring opportunities than its more formidable and experienced rival. Kerala XI's relentless attack bore fruit in the 41st minute when Kalesh's powerful angular carpet drive from just inside the box, after being given an excellent pass from the left by O.K. Javed, beat the Goan custodian, David D'Souza. He didn't make things easier for the Kerala XI strikers, making a couple of excellent saves. http://www.hindu.com/2008/04/19/stories/2008041961392200.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Press Statement for Publication
April 19, 2008 To, The Editor, Herald/Navhind Times/Gomantak Times/ Tarun Bharat/Gomantak, Panjim-Goa. Sir, Sub: Press Statement for kind favour of publication. The Goa Su-Raj Party has taken notice of the news item appearing in Goa's dailies of April 18, 2008 regarding 'Special Courts' being set-up in the state of Bihar for the conduct of speedy trials with respect to 'graft' cases. This should be an eye-opener to Goa's elected representatives and for the people of Goa where 'graft' and 'blind cheating' of the public exchequer in every aspect of the government administration has reached its peak, may it be the 2001 ODI scam involving the present Finance Minister, may it be the stagnating 'River Princess, the illegal beach shacks enjoying legal status, the wide open violations of statutory laws and rules governing 'no development' in the CRZ, the rampant double-standards in allowing building permissions through hill-cuttings and conversions of non-convertible lands, drug cartels allowed to flourish through overt or covert encouragement by the political class, the appearance of high-ended prostitution etc. etc. The Goa Su-Raj Party has always felt that Goa badly needs what 'Bihar' is already on its way towards implementing speedy punishment in order to curb the lawlessness which has been encouraged and fostered by elected so-called representatives of the people and the bureaucratic hierarchy. The Goan people at large will have to pressurize the government of the day to enact an appropriate legislation to create 'Special Courts' to try all corrupt public officials as well as the elected people's representatives. The need for this is apparent when it is seen what is happening in the case of the ODI scam, where the ordinary Courts, due to their day to day burden of cases, are unable to try such corruption matters speedily with the powerful accused making use of the system to their advantage. The 'special courts' suggested would do away with the delays which are inherent in the working of the ordinary courts and bring about the much needed relief and confidence to the people that justice exists and works. The Goa Su-Raj Party urges the present day government lead by Mr. Digamber Kamat to rise to the occasion and create the necessary legislation for the purpose. This will clearly show which side this government stands for, whether on the side of the much touted 'aam aadmi' or on the side of the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. Thanking you, Yours faithfully, Sd/ Floriano Lobo Gen. Secretary Spokesperson Goa Su-Raj Party
[Goanet] In Support of an application to Leicester City Council- - that a statue of Mahatma Gandhi be erected in Leicester. UK
Friends ! I have been asked to encourage British Citizens or residents in the UK - to sign a petition to the Prime Minister UK. This petition is in Support of an application to Leicester City Council - that a statue of Mahatma Gandhi be erected in Leicester. UK The statue would celebrate the life and work of Gandhi as the leading figure of non-violent resistance and as a champion of inter-cultural harmony and cooperation. To Sign the petition - please visit URL: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk:80/Leicester/ Sign up by: 05 November 2008 Please note : those who sign must either be British Citizens or residents in the UK Many thanks for your support - rene barreto GOANWORLD http://worldgoaday.blogspot.com/ PROUD TO BE A GOAN ? Join the hundreds of GOANS as they celebrate their GOAN CULTURAL HERITAGE on WORLD KONKANI DAY WORLD GOA DAY 20th of August - every year. DONT just say it , JUST DO IT ! === === Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] 'Obscene MMS clip' forces two Goa girls to suicide
'Obscene MMS clip' forces two Goa girls to suicide Panaji: Close on the heels of the Scarlette Keeling murder case and the news of an international sex racket, two college girls - who were allegedly blackmailed through an obscene MMS clip purportedly featuring them - have committed suicide in Ponda town. The incident occurred a month ago but went largely unreported. It was finally taken up by the state opposition BJP that sought an intervention from the National Commission for Women. I have handed over the (MMS) CD to Director-General of Police B S Brar and Chief Secretary J P Singh, Leader of the Opposition in the assembly Manohar Parrikar said. He said the party women's wing will be approach the NCW to take up the case. The girls hailing from the temple town of Ponda - the constitutency of Home Minister Ravi Naik - reportedly committed suicide on March 26 after being blackmailed for sexual favours by some travel agency personnel. The coastal state considered a tourist haven has recently been in the news for the death of British teenager Scarlette Eden Keeling who was drugged and raped and her body was found on Anjuna beach. An international call girl ring allegedly being run by a Uzbekistan woman was also busted in the state last week. http://www.ibnlive.com/news/obscene-mms-clip-forces-two-goa-girls-to-sui cide/63569-3.html ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] GOA LIBERATION
Dear Paulo and interested Goanetters, 1. With utmost respect to your erudition and concession (quite similar term concession to concession used in mining leases) to your sensibilities, may I venture in deepest humility to point out that that the very fact/aspect of SOVEREIGNTY accepts in International Law the right of a Sovereign Nation to protect itself,its citizens, and to put it more brazenly to acquire territory. 2. Just as in law Portugal, Spanish,Dutch and the Brits (other colonial powers) were entitled to acquire property , they are /were equally entitled in law to lose property to a superior power. 3. The international currency of POWER has, always in history and contemporary times, according to Mr .Alwin Toffler who wrote three seminal works FUTURE SHOCK , THIRD WAVE and POWER SHIFT , been VIOLENCE, MONEY, KNOWLEDGE. The faster,quicker and earlier we accept that the Portuguese were beaten to the punch by the Indians ,the easier will be the transition to acceptance of reality.(Refusal to be in denial) The Supreme Court of India has already ruled way back that GOA IS CONQUERED TERRITORY. There is no denying this FACT. 4. I have had the privilege today of visiting the Station Signal Officers Mess of the Indian Army at Altinho, Panaji, Goa. It is the very same place which served as the Headquarters of the Portuguese Military Junta. I confirm that today (19/04/2008) I personally alongwith friends viewed the Portuguese Flag caged in a glass enclosure at the said Officers Mess with the inscription that it is the Flag lowered by the Indian Army on liberating Goa. 5. Alongwith my friends we also noticed the following documents which are on display at the said location: a) the Offer of SURRENDER by the Portuguese Governor/GENERAL to the Indian Army, b) the acceptance of the said Offer of SURRENDER by the Indian Army, and , c)the message by the then Indian Prime Minister (Mr Jawaharlal Nehru) congratulating the Indian Armed Forces on their Victory. These documents need perhaps a larger audience for study,examination and appreciation. 6. I have the utmost respect for citizens of Portugal comparable to the respect I hold for citizens of Germany -- the same country who in political discourse at times in the past -- bought into Fueher Hitlers ideas., but today is a modern Nation. 7. Can we contemporarily move on now ,instead of being held hostage mentally to ideas propounded by deadbeats /and or living fossils' who are prisoners to an age of Portuguese dominance of Goa, which in all human probability shall never return, inasmuch as Indian Kashmir will never devolve to the Pakistanis. Portugal needless to say is not a nuclear capable Nation ,quite unlike the Pakistani Nation, besides of course being logistically distant,thus making even a proposition by recourse to Force, LAUGHABLE. With every good wish and with great respect to the Citizens of the Republic of Portugal, Warm regards, Capt Gerald Fernandes, Ex, the Indian Army. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF INDIA. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF PORTUGAL .Long Live International.Peace, Friendship ,Understanding and Fraternity! - Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! Group.
[Goanet] Petrol Pumps
Only buy or fill up your car or bike in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the eveningyour litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps. When they are filling up they actually squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode they should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created while they are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If they are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money. One of the most important tips is to fill up when your tank is HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, where , every truck that load is temperature compensated so that every litre is actually the exact amount. Another reminder, if there is a fuel truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy, DO NOT fill up--most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.. - Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email.
[Goanet] NYTimes.com: Across Globe, Empty Bellies Bring Rising Anger
This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI GOANET, FOR YOUR INFORMATION. PLEASE LIST THIS BOSCO. THANKS, RUBY GOES INTERNATIONAL / AMERICAS | April 18, 2008 Across Globe, Empty Bellies Bring Rising Anger By MARC LACEY Global food prices are spiraling out of reach, sowing discontent and putting pressure on fragile governments. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/world/americas/18food.html?ex=1209268800en=1e30c1b53f8dc3b3ei=5070emc=eta1 -- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company
Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity
Hi Antonio Your brief commentary on Goan Identity was brilliant! I wonder however, if caste based seating provision in Goa Catholic churches where such practice prevailed also contributed to your version of the Goan Identity? Regards Cornel --- Antonio Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We may not know much about Goan Identity but there are qualities which Goans have developed and yet they do not know they have them. And they are: 1. Ability to sleep with their eyes wide open 2. Pretending to pay attention when their earholes are blocked to outside sound. And how how did they develop these qualities ? ...
Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity
Where did they develop it ? I could be wrong but I suspect in a place where they faithfully spent a couple of hours every sunday morning. At last somebody had the gumption to say it boldly 'loud and clear' floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Antonio Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goan Identity We may not know much about Goan Identity but there are qualities which Goans have developed and yet they do not know they have them. And they are: 1. Ability to sleep with their eyes wide open 2. Pretending to pay attention when their earholes are blocked to outside sound And how how did they develop these qualities ? I think your guess is as good as mine When did they develop it ? It was a slow process lasting for four centuries of colonial rule. Where did they develop it ? I could be wrong but I suspect in a place where they faithfully spent a couple of hours every sunday morning. Antonio
Re: [Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT WITHOUT POWER ...
My dear Philip, Thanks for your continued excellent ombudsman service in highly relevant areas of transparence or, lack thereof, in Goa. I have a request: Could you -- or some other informed fellow netter -- provide me a lead/source to the, reportedly, rampant human-organs' trade underway in India. Any aspect related to the same: extent of availibility, if contacts are made easilly or with difficulty, costs, etc. Alfred de Tavares, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maltesholmsvägen 83, SE-165 55 HÄSSELBY, Sweden. Tel: 0046 8759 6214; cell: 0046 70 295 4091 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:50:21 +0530 Subject: [Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT WITHOUT POWER ... In response to the HERALD report of April 16th, the Power Minister has now fired a couple of salvos of his own in HERALD April 18th. The new report is headlined Aleixo upset over non-usage of tap changer provided to transformer. Instead of this electrical mumbo-jumbo the headline should have read Crossed (power) lines or something just as pithy. This would have highlighted the unseemly squabble which is not at all in the state's interests. To explain we need to back track a bit. _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE
[Goanet] Dabolim airport upgrade
In recent days HERALD has been carrying short news reports regarding the plan for a parallel taxiway at Dabolim airport. As indicated this would run parallel to the runway and facilitate the entry of aircraft to the terminal and their subsequent exit from it. Previously, aircraft had to traverse practically the full length of the runway to either begin their take-off run or to reach the terminal. This held up other aircraft from landing or taking off and restricted the throughput at Dabolim. Later, the Navy agreed to the use of the apron in front of one of its hangars as a holding area for aircraft en route to or from the terminal so as to free the runway for the use of other aircraft. It is claimed that air traffic at Dabolim (presently confined mainly to afternoon hours due to naval restrictions for military flight training purposes in the mornings) could treble if the taxiway was built. The planned taxiway would cut across the aprons used for naval maritime patrol aircraft and choppers (but not fighters). It is hard to understand how the Navy has agreed in principle to this taxiway as long ago as 2006. Perhaps it was due to the boom in civil aviation at the time and resulting pressure on Dabolim. The current glitches regarding implementation (coinciding curiously with a slowdown in traffic growth) are ostensibly on the grounds of sorting out responsibility for construction (which would take 10 months) and financing (to the tune of about Rs 80-100 crores). There is reportedly a tussle between the civil aviation ministry and the naval authorities regarding this. We consider that the taxiway cannot be viewed in isolation. There is a major bottleneck at present regarding aircraft parking bays which number only 6 currently. It is not known what the minimum number has to be if the planned parallel taxiway becomes operational. To expand this apron space requires the navy to telescope its two runway crossings into one which is away from the terminal and then part with airside land. Then there is the terminal itself which is being sought to be expanded but which is held up because the Navy has yet to part with a measly two acres of air side land out of the 9 acres promised long ago. The bottom line is that any progress in expanding Dabolim's capacity for civilian traffic is bound to be at snail's pace because of the Navy's arbitrary way of decision making in civilian matters. The implication of this for Mopa is that it can also grow only at snail's pace for about 20 years since inception so as to avoid upstaging Dabolim and creating demands for the closure of the latter's civil enclave. The issue then becomes one of determining the right size of Mopa at start up. The present ICAO plan for Mopa has to be scrapped and a new one has to be generated.
Re: [Goanet] Diet and Health.
Mon chére 'Eric, You failed? to consider the possible good contribution of whole-corn fluids so ABSOLUTELY produced in these parts Or, are they negligible? I beg to disagree.. Alfred... Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:07:03 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Diet and Health. I have witnessed a mini-epidemic of colon cancer amongst friends in North America over the the past decade. The very famous surgeon, Dr. Burkitt, claimed he did not see a case over his twenty year stay in the Ugandan bush : he was making a case for fiber. The presence of carcinogens in digested meat, combined with slower propulsion of a low fiber mass along our tracts, make for a dangerous mix to health. It is not practical to count on fruit and vegetable to provide the fifteen odd grams of fiber we need every day : only the right kind of grain does it for us. Sadly, this does not include our two favourites - rice polished pretty, and white bread. The solution is whole wheat products, and corn. I googled the word 'fiber' today, and discovered several reader friendly sites that are useful and informative. eric. _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
[Goanet] 1500 attend of the Floyd Fernandes Funeral: Videos + text + audio + photos
19 Apr: New Zealand Press Assoc. A simple brown teddy bear sat in Floyd Fernandes' casket today as the 16-year-old student was farewelled by hundreds of friends, family and schoolmates . There were about 1500 mourners, Radio New Zealand reported . Floyd's father, Francisco spoke of a son who loved to compete with him . His mother Jennifer told mourners God had taken back the treasure he had given the family . Floyd was buried in a private service which was by invitation only as the family asked for privacy. 694 words + photos. See http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4488673a10.html TV 3 video clip 3m. 01s. see http://www.tv3.co.nz/VideoBrowseAll/3NewsLiveStream/tabid/387/Default.aspx#t op One News video clip 2m. 57s. see http://www.stuff.co.nz/videoplayer/125562a15455.html You Tube video clip 4m. 59s. see http://youtube.com/watch?v=zl-HAJ5OGCY 15 Apr. Auckland, New Zealand. FLOYD FERNANDES. (Aged 16). Dearly loved son of Jennifer and Francisco. Brother to Janice. Grandson of Henriqueta. A service will be held at the Elm Christian Church, Howick on Sat 19 Apr at 11 am followed by private burial. Condolences to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fernandes family moved to NZ six years ago from Bombay. They trace their Goan roots to Cuncolim. 16 Apr: TIME. Six students and one teacher from Auckland were drowned when they were washed away by a flash flood . The school released brief profiles of the deceased students . Floyd Fernandes: Floyd was a highly talented musician who was very active in many areas of the school. A humble student who was a good all-rounder and who loved sports. See http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1731278,00.html For links to more information see http://www.google.co.uk/news?sourceid=navclient-ffrlz=1B3GGGL_enGB259GB259; hl=enned=ie=UTF-8q=%22Floyd+Fernandes%22scoring=d If any of the links do not work, try accessing them from http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ Eddie Fernandes
[Goanet] Shano Goemkar -- to Sonia
Dear Ms Sonia, Thank you for your advice. I have noting to loose as I do not live in Goa, but it is for Goans like you and your children that we NRIs from Goa the world over are fighting a battle against communalism, corruption and exploitation. I am sure you are aware of what goes on in Goa...try not to defend the ongoing mess but stand up against it, and if you cannot, step aside and let those who have the guts and courage to fight the corrupt administration do it. Goa has suffered enough, thanks to the communial forces -- Goa even witnessed its first communial riots... what next? Cedric da Costa Dubai - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] Advalpal villagers force stop Sesa Goa mine
About 50 Advalpal villagers - mostly women - today morning marched to the Sesa Goa mine forcing the mine to close down its operation. The concerned Sesa Goa mine T.C. no. 76/52 was is threatening village water sources. Villagers united to drive away Sesa Goa from their village. In fact the villagers are up in arms against the mining activities in the village and movement against the same is going on since 2005. Besides multinational Sesa Goa - owned by British company Vedanta- Salgaocars (T.C. no. 41/55) and Lithoferro (T.C. No. 89/52) are other two companies that are proving to be pests to the Advalpal villagers. Around 1,500 strong people of this village are at the receiving end of the mining menace. The companies and the State authorities so far have been able to 'manage' the village protest by use of Carrot and stick policy - Companies have dished out cash to those willing to accept while Police has been used to silence the protests so far. DySp Shamba Sawant who has been recently transferred from Bicholim was the worse of the lot in threatening the Advalpal villagers. However it is not going to be too long that the situation will go out of control of the mining companies as well as the State authorities in case it refuses to heed to the voices of the People. Saleli and Colamb have already created history in Goa. Advalpal may very well be next to follow. This is particularly so because Police have registered criminal cases against the villagers on trespass charges. Sesa Goa has been instrumental in getting cases filed against 20 villagers of Advalpal. It is not just the common people that are criminally targeted by Sesa Goa but also village Sarpanch Harischandra Sawal has been targeted - politically. The Sesa Goa was served notice on illegal weigh bridge by the village panchayat; in response company got involved in dislodging village Sarpanch. So here is the case mining companies are not only involved in kingmaker roles for the Goa State Assembly members and Chief Ministers but also involved in dislodging of village Panchayat Sarpanch. The audacity of British company to file cases against the local villages is so clearly like the case of British East India Company that ultimately captured whole of India. After 61 years of Independence we have another British Company doing the same for the Advalpal villagers. Through this action it is nurturing new breed of freedom fighters against Imperialism. Considering the behaviour of the Sesa Goa it is not difficult to imagine the kind of shape Goa is going to take in future to come about. Sebastian Rodrigues in discussion with Shamsundar Pundalik Naik www.mandgoa.blogspot.com _ Education: Are exams worrying you all the day long? Write to MSN education experts for help. http://education.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] Fwd: Re - of Goans, non Goans and anti-Goans
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:52:01 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mario, This has relation to you views on my post. Can I ask whats your status i.e. (1) Resident Goan? (2) Non Resident Goan who intends returning to Goa permanently? (3) Non Resident Goan who does not intends returning to Goa permanently? (4) Permanent Resident of another country? (5) Citizen of another country? Mario responds: Arwin, please refer to my very specific comments in my following post: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-April/072397.html My personal status, or yours, has nothing to do with whether one can compare a state in a country, like Goa is, with some other country, like Germany, Uganda or Serbia. Apparently, you have no logical response to this obvious fact.
[Goanet] Truth escapes from the cracks in the wall!
Truth escapes from the cracks in the wall. Visit to know how: http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/04/truth-escapes-from-cracks-in-wall.html Warmly, Seby _ Video: Get a glimpse of the latest in Cricket, Bollywood, News and Fashion. Only on MSN videos. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in
[Goanet] Demand for dismissal of South Goa Collector
Resolution was passed at a public meeting called by GAKUVED in Colamb, Sanguem to demand dismissal of the South Goa Collector Gokuldas Naik for his high handed behavior with Colamb villagers on 12th April 2008 at his office in Margao. Villagers had visited him on his invitation to discuss contentious Colamb mining issue. The collector in a bid to force the villagers to let the Fomento mining company to transport Iron Ore threatened to deploy Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel to bulldoze villagers’ opposition to the mining activities in their village in T. C. No. 06/1949. Further collector threatened to transport the Ore till 10.00 pm in the night to teach villagers a lesson. More dangerously he termed the local Gram Sabha resolution to oppose mining activities in Colamb village as invalid. Collector defended the venue of the Public hearing of for this mine being in Margao even though laws point out that it should have been done at the venue. Collector was in fact directed to ensure that this mine is closed down by the Goa Pollution Control Board in its letter revoking Consent to operate on 14th March 2008. Earlier this collector was responsible to provide Police security cover to Fomentos that resulted in arrests of Colamb villagers and unleashing of Police Violence. The collector though is a public servant, has failed miserably to uphold dignity of his office and is functioning as private agents of the Fomentos mining company – that is engaged in activities detrimental to the Public interest in Colamb. Meeting resolved to contact various organizations across Goa to press for the support to demand dismissal of South Goa Collector Gokuldas Naik. http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/04/demand-for-dismissal-of-south-goa.html _ Video: Get a glimpse of the latest in Cricket, Bollywood, News and Fashion. Only on MSN videos. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in
[Goanet] Is the destructiveness of caste, a myth!!
Gilbert Lawrence writing on this topic ( April,17 ) has raised quite a number of points. However, I shall not bore my fellow Goanetters and shall rerply to his following two statements. GL writes: So I am disappointed that you should bring in caste in the efforts of the priestsLooking back with pride instead of looking back with bitternes. AM It has been said that present is the continuation of the past, If we look back only at the pleasant events only and ignore the unpalatable (at least to a section of our community ) it would amount to dishonesty on my part.After all caste was a major social problem that affected our ancestors. Everything was judged in terms of caste and I dont see any reason why I should spare the so called men of God.who were after all major beneficiaries of caste system when it came to admission in the Seminary to the detriment of others who were sometimes more meritorious. GL As regards the church in Goa running schools pre 1961, it takes money to run a school even for a church. So I do not know how you would expectg the church in Goa to run schools. AM Let me begin with the office of the''Patriarca das Indias Orientais; The Portuguese head of the Goan Catholic Church was a powerfull spiritual authority and it has been said that at times he could overrule the political power ''O Governador Geral da India Portuguesa''. Then there was the agreement between the church and the state called Concordata. No Portuguese official ,however high, could interfere in the affairs of the Padroado/Patriarcado. The Padroado had solid financial backing of the Portuguese government and till 1961 churches received subsidies from the Government Treasury. Only after 1961 these payments ceased. (i could be wrong but during the dictatorship days it was difficult to know the truth.) Besides, a village church had dubious distinction of being the biggest landlord of the village.having obtained lands from the faithful departed in lieu of masses to be said for their souls. So to say that church was poor and could not afford to open schools especially for the socio-economic poor would amount to half truth. Means were there to improve status of the poor only the willingness was not there for reason which are not to imagine in a casteist milieu. Antonio
[Goanet] Dog and the Bone - by: Fr. Peter Fernandes [SFX] - COMMENTS
Dog and the Bone By: Fr. Peter Fernandes, SFX Herald -April 17, 2008 We played a popular game, Dog and a bone, as children in kindergarten, and now and then, as adults at picnics, and during recreation for our amusement. However, in the animal world, this is no game, but a continuing critical struggle for survival, in a dangerous dwelling place of unsuspected beasts. Love, mercy, forgiveness and reason have little or no value in such competitive surroundings. Nevertheless, this game teaches the lesson, be quick and shrewd, or lose the bone. The goal seems to be of a worth, but in a rational world, reason must prevail over instinct. Distressing , but true, this sport is incessantly played, often behind the closed doors, by our elected representatives, to satisfy their impulse. Only occasionally is their play for power exposed for general public to witness the exhilaration. The dignity of public office, distinguished by its high calling to perform noble task, is not comprehended by animals whose rationale is lost in the woods. Would it not be better, if such brutes were placed in an open arena to display their brawn? The recent fiasco between the two cabinet ministers, Churchill Alemao and Micky Pacheco, is precisely the name of the game: Survival of the fittest They fancy flexing their muscles to capture the bone, but, at the deprivation of the ordinary citizens welfare. On several occasions, both men have denigrated this office to fulfill their own dreams and selfish ambitions. Now, without name and shame, they are ripping the flesh of the public, like wild scavengers. They walk the path of darkness, which is a long road shrouded in secrecy. We ask, Who will shed the light of knowledge and understanding on them, that they may see where they are leading us? Digamber Kamat government, which has survived two earlier attempts by the wild creatures to devour and dismantle the congress-led coalition government, speaks for itself. In order to take the bone from the then PWD minister, Dhavlikar, Churchill Alemao master-minded the move as an astute fox. He even had the audacity to proclaim the same from top of his voice: There are no permanent friends or permanent enemies in politics. Dhavlikar lost the bone, as did Victoria Fernandes who aspired for one, because in this jungle , might is right. In the aftermath, Dhavlikar found strength in NCP, whose members are no different than the others, and he is back in the game. Just remember , if this ugly history of Goa has puzzled the learned, what would happen to our children, when they start learning the rich political history of Goa? Will they be grateful for the mess we created? Or will they laugh at our stupidity? Atanasio Monserrate, the Taleigao MLA, has mastered the art of sneaking in from any or all directions to seize the bone. He played the role of Judas to congress party at the time of assembly elections, and stabbed the UGDP after winning the seat. Left alone for sometime, it seemed he had lost the power to play this game. However, the congress-led coalition government is experiencing the ripple effects of his presence and absence. It is inevitable to keep him at bay, because money speaks loud and clear. Recently, he has gained heroic status among the wild beasts, after his dramatic act at the police station, which shocked the citizens. Now, his induction to the cabinet berth is a predictable reward for gallant display of muscle against democracy. Mr. Pandurang Madkaikar, was a deserving representative to hold on to the bone, because he was the only candidate from scheduled tribe, but the godfathers snatched it away from him. The hypocrisy of the congress party, which claims to be the saviour of the masses and of the minority, has come to surface numerous times. Victoria Fernandes, is the only elected woman representative, yet cannot find a berth in the cabinet. Congress party has the policy not to give tickets to more than one member of the same family. Ironically, Alemao brothers, members of the congress party, are holding two cabinet berths, and at no cost are ready to relinquish the bone. It is not fair to name just Churchill Alemao, Micky Pacheco and Atanasio Monserrate to have played this sport. All, but one, have come onto the field to play this game in our recent political history of Goa's legislative assembly. Mathany Saldanha was the only one who rose above the ordinary mire, thus setting the example of a true statesman. As it is, one is an insignificant number, when trying to create a difference , and change the ethics of our political. Hence, this is why he is rooted-out from the legislative assembly by uncouth people. The national political parties, which have played a major role following the liberation of Goa, have not merited the desired goals for our state, besides, they failed to instill discipline among their own members. However, the greater
[Goanet] Goa news for April 20, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Scarlett witness \'trapped in Goa\' - The Press Association [Apr 17, 2008] Police in Goa have said she was given a cocktail of Ecstasy, cocaine and LSD. D'Souza, 28, was the first man arrested by Goan police in connection with the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5ii2bPQyaFoM5cidLRgbjRlQTWN5Qcid=1150205608ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzf_21v8I2zWHtc53WPD2UweZupwSQ *** Indo-UK naval war games off Goa coast from Monday - Times of India [47 minutes ago] NEW DELHI: India and UK will kick off their third round of the annual 'Konkan' naval wargames on the western seaboard off Goa from Monday, with the British ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Indo-UK_naval_war_games_off_Goa_coast_from_Monday/articleshow/2964995.cmscid=1152160241ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzcT6Y2bj2tQYDtc-Kem3m50wAukGg *** Sex trade growing with tourism in Goa - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] The state has come a long way from the unsolved Miramar sex racket during earlier part of this decade, to the arrests of bar dancers from Maharashtra in Goa ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=04205cid=1152091002ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzfCn1ZB4UNPwHi8MX0a0JNMPXYtOg *** Goa plans mega fests to woo tourists - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, APRIL 18 The Goa Tourism Department has commenced an aggressive campaign to woo domestic clientele with mega Goa fests proposed ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2804cid=2cid=1151955128ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzdqe1qLnxIlwGeBMSvzahZ5i2Ix3w *** Goa\'s complete online news edition - Saturday, April 19, 2008 - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] GLITZ, GLAMOUR CRICKET: The Indian Premier League got off to a dream start on Friday evening, amid fireworks, dance performances and Bollywood mingling ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2811cid=1cid=0ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzd_Cq_eAgwnn6S02K3H464q00NISQ *** Salgaocar rout Guardian Angel in Taca Goa - Navhind Times [Apr 18, 2008] Margao, April 18 Melvis Fernandes scored three goals as Salgaocar SC thrashed Guardian Angel SC 8-1 in a one-sided encounter of GFA U-20 Taca Goa league at ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=041932cid=0ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzchnLIx2Vfr-Wmb5kualZc9L9uQ9Q *** Chintamanis to hold exhibition in Goa - Navhind Times [Apr 18, 2008] The vision is simple - to bring to Goa the very best of hallmarked gold jewellery, IGL certified diamond jewellery, brands like Asmi, Arisia and Nakshatra ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=04194cid=0ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzcfB91xCdSAmgQy59JPI_CxmLvOqA *** Goa sex racket: Police zero in on Nagpur-based youth - Hindu [Apr 17, 2008] Panaji (PTI): Goa police has identified a Nagpur-based youth in the international sex racket, involving an Uzbek woman, busted in the coastal state, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200804171617.htmcid=1152029920ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzfoKfVDglD6hTetv11g99yMrv0emw *** The shrink-wrapping of Goa - InfoChange [17 hours ago] By Rahul Goswami Real estate developers haveallied with politicians in Goa to create a brand new economy in this well-known holiday state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://infochangeindia.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=7052Itemid=112cid=0ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzfqzCgnRDiUByksjWfudVVWC8s2oQ *** Willy stresses need to make Goa ideal place for scouting - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] Panaji, April 19 The Deputy Chairman of Planning Board and President of Bharat Scouts and Guides, Goa State Dr Wilfred de Souza has underscored the need to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=04201cid=0ei=e4AKSMOCOIPkrQO60P3hDQusg=AFrqEzcENo30wdMRDynp8va11Cs-JvyFbw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Organ Trading in India
Alfred bhava, The Indian National Human Rights Commission would be a good place for your initiative. Please see: http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1910/19100840.htm Regards, Roland 416-453-3371 On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dear Philip, Thanks for your continued excellent ombudsman service in highly relevant areas of transparence or, lack thereof, in Goa. I have a request: Could you -- or some other informed fellow netter -- provide me a lead/source to the, reportedly, rampant human-organs' trade underway in India. Any aspect related to the same: extent of availibility, if contacts are made easilly or with difficulty, costs, etc.
[Goanet] Pope's Visit to USA and UN
Likely many interested Goanetters are following the Pope's visit to the USA. He received a thunderous welcome in the Capital, at the United Nations and now in New York City. He has been addressing the controversy of the priest sex abuse with forthrightness and compassion. Those interested in his remarks can read below from Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080419/ap_on_re_us/pope_us Regards, GL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] A poem in memory of Scarlett Keeling
A poem in memory of Scarlett Keeling Today I died, of shame, of shock Those beasts attacked me on the rock I cried, I fought, I prayed, I lost I am no more, what fate hath wrought I always dreamt of distant lands Of the eastern spice, of painted hands The woman is a God they said Oh India, it left me dead All you men, I ask you fair A child I am, in mothers care What wrong did I, what crime of mine Someday youll cry in his court divine Kind Regards Vanita K Dubai,UAE Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Goan Expats-2: HERALD(Goa), Apr 20, 2008
GOAN EXPATS-2 By Valmiki Faleiro The idea of this two-part article arose, of all things, at a book launch in Panjim early last year. An expatriate, Anjuna-born Gulf Goan Domnic Fernandes, authored “Domnic’s Goa.” (Domnic is my Non Resident Goan, NRG Type-1.) Edited by journalist Frederick Noronha, the book was produced in 2007 by Cecil Pinto for Abbe Faria Productions, Panjim. ISBN: 978-81-904640-0-0. PB. Rs.350. A panel discussion by some well-known Goan authors followed the book launch. It was chaired by the venerable New York-based, regularly-in-Goa octogenarian, Victor Rangel Ribeiro. The issue: maintaining ‘Goanness’ in the Goan Diaspora via nostalgic writing. This, eventually, made me notch my categories of Goan expats up by one. Let us call them NRG-Type 3. If the NRG-Type 1 helps shore up the Goan economy, and Type 2 is largely a variable quantum of hot air, Type 3 should warm every Goan heart in Goa. An age ago, Prof. Frank D’Souza poignantly wrote, “So even in voluntary exile, the very thought of Goa conjures up for me tantalizing visions of my native land, and fills me with a sentimental yearning for it. Separated from my motherland by the iron logic of circumstances, I have always felt a sense of fulfillment whenever I visited Goa. Even as a child, when the steamer docked in Panjim, I used to be overcome by a strong urge to kneel down and kiss the soil of Goa.” Type 3 is a rarer breed. Up against all odds, they made a conscious choice to return to their ancestral land. Not after retirement like most, but when in the prime of their careers. Guys like Wendell Rodricks, Margaret Mascarenhas and VM de Malar (a.k.a. Victor Menezes of Malara-Divar, grandson of another venerable Goan expat, Prof. Armando Menezes, a legend in his lifetime at Dharwar University.) Type-3 put their future and their fortunes where their heart was – Goa. Mumbai born, Los Angeles and Paris trained Wendell, in his words, was “arm-twisted” into writing by his friend Sathya Saran, Editor of ‘Femina.’ Wendell was among a handful Indians selected for an advanced fashion-designing course in Germany. On the eve of his departure, Sathya asked him to do a piece on “how large women could be made to look slim in innovative clothing.” He hurriedly penned a technical but readable piece, explaining the concepts with his own illustrations. On returning, he was horrified to see Femina’s cover blurb announcing a “Regular Column” by Wendell – that’s how the fashion designer doubled as a columnist. But that’s not the story. Wendell’s father always spoke of his plans to retire to his beloved Colvale. He didn’t get to make it. After a couple of years of working in Bombay and earning a niche for himself, Wendell one fine day told friends he was moving to Goa. They were aghast at his sure professional suicide. It took him four years to get a basic phone line in Goa, many more to be connected to the internet… Margaret was born in Venezuela, where she studied in Spanish, went to university in the US, then moved to Bombay, working for a high profile magazine for some time, until one day she asked herself why she was air-hopping every weekend to be with her grandma in Anjuna. She relocated. Her dad had instilled a love for Goa early on: he brought the family down every vacation. One such visit, grandma took her on a visit to a relative, then Goa’s first Goan Bishop. When asked to kneel and kiss the Bishop’s ring, the seven year old stoutly refused! For Margaret, a writer, relocation was easy in this age of email. US-based VM de Mallar was in his mid-30s when he decided to retire and return home. Pop star Remo had opportunity (and great potential) to settle abroad than stay in Siolim. Savia Viegas, author, academician and a senior Fulbright Fellow had everything going for her in Mumbai, but moved back to Carmona. As did John Douglas Coutinho, in the UK, who returned to Cavorim, Chandor – and today runs one of the most internationally written about beach campsites, Ciaran’s at Palolem. Ayres D’Souza had a job and papers ready for the US while in Kuwait, but chucked it all and returned to Navelim. The list is long. They renounced greener pastures and reverted home. What’s more, from Goa, they continue to thrive and make Goa proud. Do these young Goans tell a story? Ponder it over. Does Goa lack opportunity, or do we Goans lack something else? If there is will, there surely must be a way. In sum, to the Type 2, Goa may be just another holiday. To the Type 1, it means home. To the Type 3, Goa is where one returns to, recharges one’s roots, and begins to flower again. May they bloom more! (Concludes.) (ENDS) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330 == The above article appeared in the April 20, 2008 edition of the Herald, Goa
[Goanet] ZEST: A Kaleidoscope of Colours
A Kaleidoscope of Colours By Odette Mascarenhas Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. Those words of Confucius definitely holds true in the case of Yolanda de Sousa Kammermeier. An artist by profession, her work is highly thought of not only in Goa, but also nationally and internationally. She seems to emerge as colourful as the paints she uses-vibrant is the word that comes to mind. Her casual attire (I like to feel free she states), belies the intensity of her warm and captivating smile. Born and brought up in Calangute, she studied at the Little Flower of Jesus, a Portuguese medium school and could not speak a word of English till she was eight. That would account for her faintly accented speech. She went off to Mumbai on a holiday and within a span of two months mastered the language. When she returned to school they were so enamoured by her prowess that they gave her a double promotion to the fourth standard, although as she modestly claims she was just an average student. Her father Joviano de Souza was an athlete of national fame, and often represented the House of Tata in football and athletics, her mother Augusta's skill at painting on glass bottles was, and still is, intricate and painstaking. Her siblings Ligia, Francisco, Suzanna all showed traits and prowess of their parents in music, painting and sports. Yolanda was no exception. In the formative years at school, Yolanda was good in sport. She excelled in hockey, football and badminton. She decided to don the colours of the woman's football team. As she smilingly puts it â? she was a tomboy to the core. She captained the Indian football (women) team, and won matches making the team number two in Asia. However, it was not only against the Asian teams that she captained her teams; they played against strong teams like Germany and USA. Yolanda led from the front in the centre forward position. It was in her final year at school that Yolanda found her true passion. Ably assisted by her mother and coached by her art teacher, she focused on art as her subject and finally joined the Goa College of Art. After five years, she was ready to take on the world. It is said that the canvas of a painter is a document of their inner self. Yolanda took up her brush and acrylic paints and breathed into her paintings the essence of her sub conscious yearnings. She is a true Goan at heart; there is no doubt about that. It echoes on those canvases. In 1986 when still in her late 20s, she wrote a few verses on the changing face of Goa, which echoed in her paintings at an art show in 2006. She bemoans the fact that the Goa of her youth no longer exists. Her strong bond with the past was also shown in her recent collection titled Saudades a series on her ancestors, which was exhibited for the Apparant show at Panaji in 2007. Yolanda met Rudolph Ludwig Kammermeier a young German musician when he was holidaying in Goa. Their creative avenues kept them far apart for 13 long years. However, they were destined to meet again and finally tied the knot, settling in Gaurowaddo Calangute, where Rudolph, when he is not at his piano, runs a flourishing art gallery and helps Yolanda in marketing her art. Does she get distracted when Rudolph is at his piano and she is yearning to paint? The two of them blend perfectly as a couple, and as she confesses, without his expertise in marketing on the web she would have found it difficult to carve her niche in the art world. They have a twelve-year-old daughter called Sarah, with a smile as vivacious as her mother's and an artistic temperament to boot. Little Sarah will be holding her own art exhibition shortly. Yolanda's encouragement in developing artistic talent is not focused only on her daughter. She holds competitions for young children to let them discover their inner talent. She is discouraged by the fact that not many children from classes 6 to 12 participate. She believes that in many cases the school curriculum is so subject and percentage oriented (in some schools they do not even have an art teacher after standard five) that as a result art is not taken seriously in the higher standards. She, however, feels that this is slowly changing for the better as art is slowly being recognised as a profession. Yolanda de Sousa Kammermeier the Goan ethos in her voice and her paintings is poignant. She epitomises the spirit and womanhood of a true Goan woman. She displays a kaleidoscope of colours not only in her paintings but also as an individual-a prominent sports woman, a gifted artist, a caring mother and a person who takes on immense social responsibility. In 2003, to urge the public to work on the concept of peace and harmony she was part of a group show - the Daniel Pearl Memorial Festival. She has opened up avenues as a dynamic woman by giving solo shows in Bangalore and Mumbai. She firmly believes that any
[Goanet] Talking Photo: ‘Baby on board ’
Talking Photo: ‘Baby on board’ Well, I did see very often the sign board ‘baby on board’ at the back of the cars windows which is in front of ours. I really thought by saying so, the driver or the occupants of the cars are trying to tell us or warn us to keep a safe distance or drive carefully because there is a baby on board I just found out that ‘baby on board’ could also mean ‘Beware!! Anything could fling out of the car windows in front of you including baby nappies (as baby's nappies are changed upto 10 times a day).. While on the move, your car is also a ‘baby changing room’ with no waste bin inside. Dirty baby-nappies? No problem, just throw out of your moving car window. Should anybody confront you, just remind them saying ‘you been warned’ that there was a ‘baby on board’ Look at this beautiful road side bush flower http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2418803091/sizes/s/ whilst you are there, just click on ‘large’ top left link to have a close-up view of that flower. The road in the pic is DB Road , Campal. And those of you with babies or not may please watch this Mr. Bean's 'Mind the baby' http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSf2bP4UL5s You may also read this... Just few weeks ago, we 3 were travelling to Majorda via Sancoale. Suddendly our car stopped on the hill (near Verna-Vasco bypass past Sancoale church). Whilst our driver tries to sort out the problem, we went little further and saw a loaded imported (World Duty Free) bag lying by the road side. My friends were very anxious to know it's contents but I warned them not to touch as it could be any thing and advised them to go back to our car. It was nearly 45 minutes now and our driver could not fix the problem. As I had to meet some one very urgently, I accepted a lift and left them 3 behind. It was after a week, one of the two (friends) who broke the news saying that the other one actually did go back to the loaded bag and found out it contained ... (guess what?). Now, who I should call stupid? My friend or the righful NRI owner of the bag? [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] Goan Identity
Hi Antonio, When diaspora Goans talk about identity, it reminds me of two incidents. These involve those born outside India and visit Goa occasionally. Beyond the specifics of the cases, these examples may give us some insights. Incident 1: About 30+ years ago when I was studying in London, I attended a GOA function. I got talking to a HIGH SCHOOL teenager. He was pretty articulate. So I asked him, What is your identity? The teenager's response: I do not know! I was born in Kenya, Africa, but I am not Black. I am told I am English, but I am not White. I am told I am Goan, but I have not been to Goa and know little about it. Incident 2: About 5 years ago, I met five Toronto-born, Goan COLLEGE STUDENTS at a party in Toronto. Their Portuguese-speaking parents transplanted themselves straight from Goa to Toronto. The students knew they were Goan, but did not know why? One knew the name of the state language. They were not sure of the Portuguese colonization or independence, or the significance of 1961. According to them, Goa got its independence in 1947. Their ethnicity was Canadian. It does not surprise me that some of these diaspora Goans, irrespective of their age, have gone over the edge, in denying the existence of a Goan Identity. This is not displaying knowledge, despite their articulate speech or writings. Denying the existence of a Goan Identity is more displaying ignorance, which some are hesitant to admit. Clearly, Goan diaspora associations and parents have a lot of work to do. It involves, Less Talk, More Action, and we could all do without the self-aggrandizement. Are you displaying the Goan identity of making polarizing comments - just to get Goans going? Just in case you did not know that you have this Goan trait.:=)) Regards, GL --- Antonio Menezes We may not know much about Goan Identity but there are qualities which Goans have developed and yet they do not know they have them. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 74 - PEOPLE POWER
RE: Message: 12 of Goanet 438; Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 From: sebastian Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Advalpal villagers force stop Sesa Goa mine About 50 Advalpal villagers - mostly women - today morning marched to the Sesa Goa mine forcing the mine to close down its operation. The concerned Sesa Goa mine was threatening village water sources. Villagers united to drive away Sesa Goa from their village. Besides multinational Sesa Goa - owned by British company Vedanta- Salgaocars and Lithoferro are other two companies that are proving to be pests to the Advalpal villagers. Around 1,500 strong people of this village are at the receiving end of the mining menace. The companies and the State authorities so far have been able to 'manage' the village protest by use of Carrot and stick policy - Companies have dished out cash to those willing to accept while Police has been used to silence the protests so far. However it is not going to be too long that the situation will go out of control of the mining companies as well as the State authorities in case it refuses to heed to the voices of the People. This is particularly so because Police have registered criminal cases against the villagers on trespass charges. PEOPLE POWER Here is yet another example of a united peoples' power That is growing stronger by the day and hour. It seems more than one multinational mining company Wants an Indian one, in its devious plots, to accompany But the united voices of people are turning their dreams sour. The villagers of Advalpal have fought both the carrot and the stick, And only want to give these nefarious companies a resounding kick, To protect their environment and their precious land, And so have formed among themselves a united band, Constantly on their guard against any other conceivable future trick -- Shanti Dhoot
[Goanet] HELEN O'GRADY COMES TO TOWN !
HELEN O'GRADY COMES TO TOWN ! The unique 'English Speech and Drama Programme' conducted by the Helen O'Grady Drama Academy began in Australia in 1979. The programme has been active in India for four years with thousands of children between the age groups of 5 yrs to 18 years attending classes weekly. This is the largest programme of its kind in the world wherein children are made to be confident, articulate and develop multi skills through development drama activities that strengthen their foundations, self esteem and verbal skills and make their journey through life much more confident and easier. The unique training modules are designed in such a way that it is possible for a child to enroll with the Academy and attend classes for 13 years without ever repeating a lesson! The sliding scale of language development, inbuilt into the curriculum, enables students of different ages and abilities to relate readily to the programme and to progress at the rate most suitable to their present needs. Ideally a two year time frame is encouraged to give the students the advantage of escalating benefits of the programme. However it is observed that even attendance for a minimum period of one year encompassing one hour classes per week have produced amazing results in kids ! A special Holiday programme, which is a 12 day compact module beginning 21st April is being organized by the Panaji franchisee MAGSONS SUPERCENTRE to initiate children and parents alike into this programme. Trained instructors will conduct these One hour sessions daily wherein 'kids will love the drama and parents will love the results'! Registrations are open on a first come basis. Interested parents are requested to contact Mrs Andrea Maganlal (9326102037) or Miss Asmita (2463700 Ext 21) at MAGSONS SUPERCENTRE. Goanet AE http://www.goanet.org
[Goanet] M.A. in Portuguese Literature and Culture - Department of Portuguese, Goa University
Department of Portuguese, Goa University - M.A. in Portuguese Literature and Culture Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões-Goa have given support to the students of the M.A. in Portuguese Literature and Culture, Department of Portuguese, Goa University, and also to the teachers of Portuguese language in the secondary schools of Goa. This academic year, six students will finish their two year M.A. degree program and it is expected that more students will enroll from next July in order to become experts in Portuguese language and culture. Instituto Camoes, together with Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation and also Orient Foundation, in collaboration with the Faculty of Arts, University of Lisbon, is organizing a short study program in Portugal for these students of Goa University. They were awarded scholarships in order to attend a course in Didactics of Portuguese as a Foreign Language. Instituto Camoes has signed a M.O.U. with Goa University and will go on supporting the language culture courses of the Department of Portuguese through pedagogical materials, the assistance of a Portuguese teacher as well as other means like scholarships as possible. This course is taking place in Lisbon from May 5th. until June 5th. These students, Clifton Mervin Afonso, Ingrid Filomena de Jesus Ferrão Pereira, Maria José Agnes Antonieta de Jesus Mascarenhas Prazeres, Maria Lira Rodrigues, Mark Sebastian Pinto e Mónica Marize D'Lima will be accompanied by José Miguel Ribeiro Lume, Leitor of Instituto Camões, and by another teacher, Maria do Céu Barreto. Besides attending classes at the University of Lisbon, they will fulfill other activities like study visits to different historical and culture sites like Camilo Castelo Branco Museum or Eca de Queiros Foundation in northern Portugal. José Miguel Ribeiro Lume Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões Goa-Índia
Re: [Goanet] Petrol Pumps
Liby, Show this to José, Pupul, Herbert others with vehicles explain it to Dacló; he is one of the´few chaps I know who really listens folows up Saves considerably on costs vehicle health. My Scarlett story was carried by 217 papers internet media around the world, mostly with my byline: so far a record for me. Tomorow on refugees Alfred
Re: [Goanet] Diet and Health.
ABSOLUTE right, our dear Alfredo, it used to be ' twenty twice ' once, on my beloved Bowery, thats forty cents for a nip of Thunderbird, if you knew the ' word ' ! That was thirty plus years ago, the stretch is expensive condo towers today, with memories that survive in Costello reruns. The South too has known an upgrade, with rye whisky supplanting corn mash in the Appa-Lachan Hills of Kentucky. American Brands, Chicago, bid to buy the outfit, only last month, lost out to the French at two billion. Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mon chére 'Eric, You failed? to consider the possible good contribution of whole-corn fluids so ABSOLUTELY produced in these parts Or, are they negligible? I beg to disagree.. Alfred... Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:07:03 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Diet and Health. I have witnessed a mini-epidemic of colon cancer amongst friends in North America over the the past decade. The very famous surgeon, Dr. Burkitt, claimed he did not see a case over his twenty year stay in the Ugandan bush : he was making a case for fiber. The presence of carcinogens in digested meat, combined with slower propulsion of a low fiber mass along our tracts, make for a dangerous mix to health. It is not practical to count on fruit and vegetable to provide the fifteen odd grams of fiber we need every day : only the right kind of grain does it for us. Sadly, this does not include our two favourites - rice polished pretty, and white bread. The solution is whole wheat products, and corn. I googled the word 'fiber' today, and discovered several reader friendly sites that are useful and informative. eric. _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [Goanet] GOA LIBERATION
Capt Gerald Fernandes, Ex, the Indian Army wrote: Dear Paulo and interested Goanetters, 1. may I venture in deepest humility to point out ... the right of a Sovereign Nation to acquire territory. 2. Just as in law Portugal, Spanish, Dutch and the Brits (other colonial powers) were entitled to acquire property , they are /were equally entitled in law to lose property to a superior power. 3. The faster,quicker and earlier we accept that the Portuguese were beaten to the punch by the Indians ,the easier will be the transition to acceptance of reality. 7. Can we contemporarily move on now ,instead of being held hostage mentally to ideas propounded by deadbeats /and or living fossils' who are prisoners to an age of Portuguese dominance of Goa, which in all human probability shall never return, 7(b) inasmuch as Indian Kashmir will never devolve to the Pakistanis. == a response from jc == Dear Capt Gerald Fernandes, Paulo and others, Whenever Paulo writes, I stop to read. He is, after all, a well educated, cultured and a very reasonable man - one I have had the pleasure of meeting in person. Accordingly, when his post arrived at the time of an opportune 'break' for me, I was happy to read it. I'll submit this - there is nothing in Paulo's post that isn't factual. There is also much in the post of Capt Gerald Fernandes (GF) that I agree with. However, there are some points, I have some difficulty with. I have listed them above. I preface my response thus: PREFACE: a: I absolutely agree that Dec 19, 1961 is fait accompli!. b: NOT everybody who questions the word liberation was pro-Salazar. c: Some who jump up and down about liberation were indeed pro-Salazar. I would like to ask Capt Gerald Fernandes a few questions? Is he implying the following: re# 1: * that every Sovereign Nation has the right to acquire territory...even property that never belonged to it as a Sovereign Nation?. * that it was right for Sadaam Hussein to try acquire the territory aka Kuwait? * that it was right for Indonesia to try acquire the territory known as East Timor? * that Honduras has a right to acquire Belize (the former British Honduras)? * that Pakistan has a right to acquire and be in Pak-occupied Kashmir? * that China has a right to acquire Aksai Chin? * that Indonesia (or China) has a right to acquire the Andaman Islands? re # 2 * that IF China becomes a superior power (in comparison to India), it will have a right to acquire (say) Goa and name it Goem-Chin ...and that India will be 'entitled in law to lose property to a superior power'.? BTW: Which Law is this? * that GF knows a LAW that entitles anybody to lose property to the goons/Dadas in the neighbourhood? * that the faster,quicker and earlier some Goans who have had their land titles or even ownership of their civilian airport taken away - accept that they were beaten to the punch, ,the easier will be the transition to acceptance of reality. re # 7 * that in the 21st century we have become so ossified that we as human beings are unable to understand that the most basic premise of humanity is autonomy and self determination. * that we have regressed to the fossil age where we can argue from a point of Might is Right and not from what Might actually be Right! We sit and justify the liberation on our own terms. What about the people who are affected by our aggression and display of might is right-ness? Anybody cares to ask the people before we just decide to 'bomb' them? Or ... would the inconvenient truth create a problem with our agenda? I am just asking. good evening from here jc Often times when I hear this totally fossilesque Might is Right argument, and then learn about the child abuse that was going on in that Texas 'church', I wonder if it is not this power trip which causes these people to abuse others and their basic rights while telling them that they are being blessed or 'liberated or is it just our plain ignorance of the fundamental rights of others!
