[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : US consulate 'mocks ' civic body over manholes

2008-06-23 Thread RUBYGOES
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Hi Goanet. Bit rich how the BMC become offended when the U.S. Consul
advises its citizens about the open manholes of Mumbai. Has the GOA
MUNICIPALITY LIFTED ITS GAME YET, or is it the same old slackness when
it comes to civic responsibilty - garbage removal for instance? Thanks
Bosco. rubygoes
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US consulate 'mocks' civic body over manholes


The US consulate drew flak from all quarters after issuing an advisory
to its American tourists in Mumbai regarding the condition of roads and
open manholes


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[Goanet] Balcao Banter

2008-06-23 Thread Frederick Menezes
www.timesofindia.com - June 23, 2008

Balcao Banter

'Certain somebodies' only

Pedro is a simpleton. But his friends are not. They are making him
wise to the ways of the world. And they are seeing a dirty design, a
putrid pattern in the recent postings.

Why was the chairman of the Goa Board of Secondary and Higher
Secondary Education removed and replaced with a certain somebody? Why
was he not replaced with people like B A Gomes or Celsa Pinto? Again,
why was the former director of information and publicity removed and
replaced with a certain somebody? Then again, why is a certain
somebody who heads the Higher Education post, holding charge of three
departments? Pedro is fuming, As if there are no other people in Goa.
Kitle bore monis sott'ttai (How many good people are decaying). But
only certain somebodies are favoured.


And now, Cong (O)

There were rumbles in the other Congress party the other day. As the
top brass-men and women of the Nationalist Congress Party met,
allegations of some of the lot playing truant flew around. One fuming
matron blasted back, if we're not given respect, our chief will join
the Congress and we will follow. She went on to thunder that India's
oldest, still functional, party, has been sweet talking the leader for
a while into joining back. Now, the chief in question is Dr Wilfred
D'- Souza, Goa's octogenarian politician. It prompted a wily
congress-man to quip, We should change the party name from Congress
(I) to Congress (O) for 'old age home'.


Balcao-made weddings

Contrary to popular belief, arranged marriages are still considered to
be the 'in thing' in Goa. If you are not one of those starry-eyed,
'so-in-love' types, it won't be long before your doting mother,
concerned aunt or speculating neighbour tries to hook you up with that
'decent' boy who has just arrived from the Gulf or that 'homely' girl
who is a pro at cooking, cleaning and stitching.

However, while one would expect the first meeting of the prospective
husband and wife to be a pleasant ice-breaker, think again. Mostly
held on neutral turf, say at the local restaurant or in the living
room of a brother's wife's cousin's friend's house, such meetings have
the capacity to spiral out of control.

Take the instance of naive Joao and Katarin. Joao a self-employed
electrician and Katarin a baby sitter, thought they had finally found
their perfect matches in each other, that too over the telephone. When
the formal meet between both the families was set up in the balcao of
Pedro's distant, farflung relative, Joao and Katarin ex-changed coy
looks at each other and even a remote grin. But that only lasted until
Pedro's mother paraded up and down, examining Katarin from head to toe
en route and quizzing her and her unsuspecting mother about all things
trivial. Then came the 'show' stopper.

Joao's mai, upon discovering that Katarin's younger sister had already
been married off and was even a mommy herself, remarked, Avoi saiba!
If your younger sister is married before you, tu sarkem fail mu go!
(You are a failure). And you don't even know how to embroider. Did you
just sit at home after studying?

Of course, Katarin's attempts at explaining that she had to work to
help sustain the family as soon as she completed school, fell on deaf
ears as her mother-in-law 'not' to be was busy conjuring all the
possible reasons why she shouldn't allow her mogacho put (dear son) to
hook up with this unmarried 'failure'.

So much for living in the 21st century!


Till 7 lifetimes do us part

And speaking about weddings and the 21st century, we carried a report
on Vata Savitri, the ritual where women starve through the day,
praying that they be granted the favour of spending seven lifetimes
with the same husband. It prompted a reader to call the Panaji office.
While complimenting the writer for the article, she quipped, Would
men do the same and pray to God to grant them the same wife for seven
lifetimes? Our reporter lightly bantered, Maybe you could ask your
husband that question? Prompt came the reply, I did ask him this
morning, he laughed and walked out of the house.


Tears for Portugal

The demise of the former colonial power at Euro 08 brings on the
customary flow of tears in Goa. Unlike the rest of India where an
England defeat is generally greeted with morbid joy. If one mourns the
absence of the brand of football associated with Cristiano Ronaldo and
Co. that's no longer going to be on display at the European showpiece,
that's understandable. But, pray, why does it have to be 'Portugaal,
Portugaal, Portugaal' everytime a Euro or World Cup event comes along?
Weren't they our colonial subjugators? Are we still carrying the
quandary of being Portuguese, albeit in a forced, converted sort of
way? Aren't there any takers for the teutonic Germans — also,
surprisingly nimble of foot and sublime of skill evident on Thursday
night? Or even the underdogs — Russia?

Come on Goa. Football doesn't begin and end with Portugal.



[Goanet] Mass for the soul of Steven Fialho

2008-06-23 Thread Philomena Fernandes
 
Dear All,
 
Please note that a Mass has been offered for the repose of the soul of Mr. 
Steven Fialho on Tuesday - 24th June at 6:30p.m. at the St. Therese Church, 
Salmiya.
 
 
 
Philomena Fernandes
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Re: [Goanet] Bandodkar's vision for Goa

2008-06-23 Thread J. Colaco jc
Aires Rodrigues advised : There is a need that the future generations be
acquainted with the work and vision of late Bhausaheb Bandodkar for Goa.

jc's response: I wonder whether Aires is referring to Bandodkar's main
vision for Goa i.e. that it would be part of Maharashtra.

jc


[Goanet] re Bandodkar's vision

2008-06-23 Thread Eugene Correia
Goa's first Chief Minister during his nine and a half year tenure had  a
vision for Goa 

Bandodkar's vision was to merge Goa with Maharashtra, in case Aires needs to be 
reminded.

Eugene
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[Goanet] WHAT PRICE GOVERNMENT STABILITY

2008-06-23 Thread John Gomes
 Hill cutting and  other activities goans do not want  reportedly continue. We 
see huge Casino boats in the crowded  and polluted Mandovi river,and Government 
wants FIVE of them! Ferries are suddenly stopped without notice (At Betim just 
one  Ferry generally goes up and down whilst at the workshop, 5 promised 
ferryboats  lie  idle), footbridge  access at Aquem is suddenly sealed, also 
without notice causing riots. Children at Nuvem are  protesting monsoons 
flooding making access to school hazardous. Saligao residents protest garbage 
blocked drains, Margao residents furious at changes in ODP introduced without 
their knowledge and likewise generally all  Government  Department Minutes are 
not properly written or doctored. Its business as usual. PWD miserably fails 
in pre monsoon works. Police and GSPCA at loggerheads. Traffic chaos and 
robberies continue to go unchecked satisfactorily.The Courts and authorities 
issue orders for removal of illegal
 hoardings along Highway, but in North Goa  authorities are unable to execute 
it quickly.Municipalities and Panchayats cannot solve garbage problems etc. 
Sort of paralysis where one arm of the government doesn't know or care  to back 
up what the other arm is doing.During the pen down strike,I heard people 
asking how many employees normally have the pen  working in their hands ? I see 
Philip Neri and Madkaikar representing us at Cannes.Politicians are jostling 
for grandoise development plans and lucrative positions .  Most Primary 
Health Centres PHCs) unhealthy. Bicholim PHC Committee threaten to resign if  
such conditions continue.The common man  still has to run from pillar to post 
unless he has a politician or godfather to support him.  Those trying to change 
this rotten System  and exploitation, are now termed naxalites or the Empire 
unfairly strikes back at them. If it was not for the Press and public 
awareness, I shudder to think of our
 fate.People are disillusioned and getting very angry.I pray this suffering and 
frustration does not  get to boiling point and erupt violently.



  


[Goanet] NYTimes.com: 36 Hours in Mumbai

2008-06-23 Thread rubygoes
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TRAVEL | June 22, 2008
36 Hours in Mumbai
By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
Behind the bustling boulevards are nameless alleys where coconuts are sold and 
the city's frenetic traffic occasionally comes to a honking halt because of a 
scampering goat.

http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/travel/22hours.html?ex=1214884800en=936c4414c82e2435ei=5070emc=eta1




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[Goanet] The Independent: The rising star of Asian language programming

2008-06-23 Thread rubygoes
A friend ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you an article:

The rising star of Asian language programming

Monday, 23 June 2008

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/the-rising-star-of-asian-language-programming-852211.html

Something rather radical has happened to the Mandalia family's sitting room in 
the past year. When Pharti Mandalia and her family first came to Britain from 
East Africa in the early 1970s and settled in a small Victorian townhouse in 
north London, the only entertainment at their disposal was a small television 
set broadcasting the three channels available to them at the time ? BBC 1, BBC 
2 and ITV.

Hi Goanet.
MODERN TIMES.

Thanks.
rubygoes



[Goanet] 15 Pieces Of Advice For Woman

2008-06-23 Thread edwardingoa
15 Pieces Of Advice For Woman
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1. Don't imagine you can change a man - unless he's in nappies.

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2. What do you do if your boyfriend walks out? You shut the door.

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3. If they put a man on the moon - they should be able to put them all up
there.

**
4. Never let your man's mind wander - it's too little to be out alone.

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5. Go for the younger man. You might as well, they never mature anyway.

**
6. Men are all the same - they just have different faces, so that you can
tell them apart.

**
7. Definition of a bachelor: a man who has missed the opportunity to make
some woman miserable.

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8. Women don't make fools of men - most of them are the do-it-yourself
types.

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9. Best way to get a man to do something is to suggest he is too old for it.

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10. Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener.

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11. If you want a committed man, look in a mental hospital.

**
12. The children of Israel wandered around the desert for 40 years. Even in
Biblical times, men wouldn't ask for directions.

**
13. If he asks what sort of books you're interested in, tell him cheque
books.

**
14. Remember a sense of humour does not mean that you tell him jokes, it
means that you laugh at his.

**
15. Sadly, all men are
createdhttp://funlok.com/index.php/humor/15-pieces-of-advice-for-woman.htmlequal!

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[Goanet] 20 sentences which i like most!

2008-06-23 Thread edwardingoa
20 sentences which i like most!

1. Nothing is unachievable if done with sincerity!
2. Promise what you can deliver!
3. Just concentrate on your present task and you'll get what you want!
4. Mere saying is of no use in absence of proper acting!
5. Have a strong faith in your own abilities and give your best to whatever,
whenever you do!
6. Don't give ears to others!
7. Be cool, calm in any case at any time!
8. Never ever look for any kind of help from anyone for free!
9. Have a strong look on your actions!
10. Never ever worry about other's reactions!
11. Never ever think more than twice on any issue!
12. Never ever waste your time on those issues which are unnecessary from
your target point of view!
13. Never ever participate in oral/verbal fight with anyone due to any
reason at any time!
14. Whatever you want to do, just do now!
15. Scanning of strengths and weaknesses is must to exploit opportunities 
overcome threats!
16. If you think too much, you can never come to a sound conclusion!
17. Never ever say,  oh! My God! What I've done? after doing anything at
any time1
18. Never ever have any worry regarding anything due to any purpose/cause!
19. To do right things at right time, right thinking plus right faith is
must!
20. Never ever blame any other person for your any failure at any time!
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[Goanet] Front formed to fight for Taleigao

2008-06-23 Thread Goanet News Service

Front formed to fight for Taleigao

PANJIM, JUNE 22 - Stung by the gram sabha resolution not to oppose the mega 
housing projects, a group of people mostly from Dona Paula area today formed 
a Taleigao Bachao Abhiyan to oppose all such projects.


The members of the Abhiyan include top businessman Anand Madgavkar, Johansan 
Fernandes, Shanti Almeida, Shrikant Naik, Pundalik Raikar and Agnelo 
Silveira.


At a maiden meeting of the Abhiyan which was attended by 100-odd residents, 
members renewed their apprehensions over the mega housing projects.


The government is giving licences to the projects without taking into 
consideration the pressure this will put on existing infrastructure, said a 
member.


As of now we have problems of water, sewage and electricity and the mega 
housing projects will add pressure on this, besides the increasing vehicular 
traffic, said another member.


Another member asked can common man in Goa afford a flat in such projects? 
and answered the question with a big 'NO'.


The rates of the flats are very, very high, which only the outsiders can 
afford, he said.


Others felt that the result of such projects is that the land rates in the 
village has gone sky-rocketing and is beyond the reach of common man.


This has tempted the farmers in the village to sell their land for huge sum 
of money, some other members felt.


The Abhiyan also took a potshot at the local MLA saying some people opposed 
IT habitat but are not opposing the mega housing projects as this is 
benefiting them.


They also criticized the gram sabha as it is being held in most 
undemocratic way and members are not allowed to speak by the shouting 
supporters of the MLA.


Meanwhile, the Abhiyan has decided to take up the fight against the projects 
by appointing two representatives in each ward of the village and create 
awareness amongst people of the ill effects of the projects.



http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=5998cid=2



[Goanet] Mining barons actual troublemakers: UGDP

2008-06-23 Thread Goanet News Service

Mining barons actual troublemakers: UGDP

MARGAO, JUNE 22 - The United Goans Democratic Party has said the BJP's 
well-known links with the business and mining industry in particular are now 
clear and in the open.


UGDP Acting president, Radharao Gracias said the statement by the Leader of 
the Opposition, Manohar Parrikar alleging naxalite presence in the mining 
belt is a typical RSS tactics to misdirect public attention from the actual 
troublemakers, who in this case are the mining magnates.


He said the BJP has come to power in Karnataka with the full backing of the 
mining lobby, particularly in Bellary district, where it swept all the 
seats. The Reddy brothers, who are the principal mining barons in that 
State, have been rewarded with Cabinet Ministries, he said.


According to Gracias, the major victims of mining are the tribal people of 
Sanguem and Sattari talukas, who in the first place were coerced to live in 
the unhealthy jungles by the upper castes down the centuries. Now that the 
mines have been unearthed in the jungles, the tribals are sought to be 
displaced from their last refuge, he added.


The Acting UGDP President said it is time that the people of Goa rise up and 
gather forces to displace both the Congress and the BJP, parties which are 
controlled by the Delhi-based High Commands, with little interest and even 
lesser concern for the well being of the Goa.



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[Goanet] Welcome to Goa: Pomburpa

2008-06-23 Thread JoeGoaUk
Welcome to Goa:  Pomburpa - II
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[Goanet] Taleigao Bachao Abhiyan

2008-06-23 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 Panjim, Taleigao and the neighbouring areas have been ravaged by illegal
land conversions, mega-projects etc by the likes of the Montserrates  their
cronies. I was wondering why the Good Citizens were silent and allowing such
people to ruin Goa and particularly their villages  cities. Was it the few
pieces of Silver? Or was is it intimidation? Nevertheless I am very pleased
to know that the Taleigao Bachao Abhiyan has been formed to tackle these
corrupt gang, right in the their own nest. For too long, these corrupt
politicians were allowed a free run; *time* has now come to stop them.

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[Goanet] Ornamental Bank of Congress (OBC) - Goans react sharply!!!

2008-06-23 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
The original list of schedule castes and scheduled tribes was prepared in
1950 has expanded over years, not with the intension of helping these
oppressed communities but rather exploit them for creating political vote
banks.
  
Surprisingly, since creation of original classification in 1950 till date
government has no statistics available about the caste of people. The census
figures, which are dutifully generated once in 10 years [1991, 2001, etc] do
not have caste data. On account of which Supreme Court of India has asked
the government of India to explain the basis on which quotas for OBC are
determined and called for the caste data. Once the data is tabled intensions
of congress government will be exposed! It will be proved beyond doubt that
congress party is using OBCs as their Ornamental Bank of Congress. 
Meanwhile in a move that could end the debate over classification of creamy
layer among the OBCs (this phrase is again a doubt raiser), the National
Commission for Backward Classes (NCBC) is expected to give its
recommendations to the government by June 30, 2008 on the revised income
ceiling for OBCs eligibility for reservation.
 
NCBC appears to have not realized that an annual income of Rs.6 lakh per
annum means Rs. 50,000 per month which is far too high compared to per
capita income, not only of the country as a whole but also of the non-OBC
classes. If this recommendation is accepted by government or approval
granted by Parliament, for sure non-OBCs would file a PIL with the apex
court challenging this criteria of Creamy Layer since it violates Articles
14 and 15 (1) of the Constitution. It implies that a non-OBC living in
penury or subsisting on beggary is deemed to be born with a silver spoon in
his mouth, belonging to Creamy Layer by birth. This defies all canons of
natural justice.
 
Most Goans (including Indians) appear to have lost trust in NCBC and related
State Commissions which are more interested in feather-bedding of the castes
and communities which they statutorily represent than in the interest of the
nation as a whole. One Goan sharply reacted saying these Congressmen will
not rest until they extend the reservation to cent percent!!
 
Congress appears to have forgotten - Integrity is telling myself the truth.
And honesty is telling the truth to other people.
 
Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad  




[Goanet] Goan Intrigues and incarnation

2008-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Jason Keith wrote:

More seriously, I think it is Rajan Parrikar who
should be credited with being the true incarnation of
Hitler.

Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:27:52 +0530 (IST)
From: Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think that is a totally unfair comment on Rajan.
Hitler did not go around photographing the destruction
that lay behind in the gas chambers.

Mario observes:

Pravin,

Unfair???  Calling someone who is doing what Rajan
does a reincarnation of Hitler is unfair?  I think
you need to expand your vocabulary, man.

Calling Robert Mugabe a reincarnation of Hitler may be
unfair, unless one has no clue about what Hitler did
and what Mugabe has done on a much smaller scale.
But Rajan Parrikar?

To begin with, I don't know either person except by
their thoughts and writings on Goanet.

I first became aware of Jason when Vidhyadhar Gadgil
posted his article called The Rape of Goa - as a tool
to save Goa? in the Gomantak Times of June 18.

As I said in response, the conclusions of the article
made no sense to me, with all due respect and I said
why in some detail.

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-June/075928.html

Now Jason has gone from utter nonsense to utter
irresponsibility in calling Rajan Parrikar a
reincarnation of Hitler.  And, to make this puerile
piece of name-calling even more asinine, he prefaces
it with More seriously, I think

Jason, were you really seriously thinking when you
wrote this?  I would apologize if I were you and wrote
this in the heat of the moment.

This is a popular canard among writers who have run
out of facts and logic in a debate - start demonizing
the other person by reincarnating the image of one of
the most vicious homicidal megalomaniacs in history. 
This is nothing but a fatuous attempt to silence him
and others who may be concerned about being called
similar names.

I have both praised Rajan for spending his own time
and money to expose the blight that is consuming Goa
and critiqued him for his suggestions in an article in
the Goan media because his solutions made no sense to
me.

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073513.html

Hey, if Rajan has abused you, by all means abuse him
back if you are clever enough to slide it past the
eagle-eyed moderators, as he did, and it makes you
feel like a chest-thumping cyber-warrior.  Selma, Ana
Marie, Reena, Jane Gillian, et. al. are excused from
the chest-thumping for obvious reasons:-))  Better
yet, use your brain to critique his logic, or lack
thereof, so that it adds to the public debate.

But to call someone a reincarnation of Hitler shows
that you either have no clue what you are talking
about or have completely run out of intelligent things
to say.

Furthermore, for Manohar Parrikar to call Seby a
Naxalite is just as vile an obnoxious, unless Seby has
been seen running around bombing, shooting and killing
innocent people in order to get his way.





[Goanet] Goanet posts

2008-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:07:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I find a curious situation on Goanet in?several posts
from quite a few veteran (frequent) posters.? 

Mario observes:

I read and re-read Gilbert's post and looked in vain
for some example(s) of what he was venting about.

Very similar to Paulo Colaco Dias' post of June 19
about what is wrong with Goanet, I was unable to
find a single specific - just an aimless rambling
rant, apparently about someone not named that Gilbert
disagrees with, punctuated by numerous smiley faces as
if everyone is supposed to know what he is talking
about - but one that by being so vague and vapid and
general, adds nothing to any ongoing discussion or
debate.

All we know for sure is that Paulo and Gilbert are not
happy campers, but with no specifics that we can
respond to, we are left to shrug and move on.





[Goanet] Calling those interested in geriatic care in Aldona

2008-06-23 Thread noronha
I am at the moment in Aldona.  And am looking out for  people interested in 
helping the senior population in Aldona.  
Please reach me at : 0832 2293338

Meera Noronha


Re: [Goanet] Don't be over eager to emigrate to USA

2008-06-23 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Gabe
Thanks for the info about the poor in the USA. This
has been common knowledge this side of the pond
whatever Mario says. I had actually met with the
respected black author and columnist, Gary Younge,
last year to explore Mario's position on the American
poor compared to the middle classes in Europe and got
confirmation of the the true picture you and I have
always known, and of course, you lived in the States
longer than I did and we both freely chose to settle
in the UK with no regrets.

Re emigrating to the USA, we in the UK are creatures
of habit, as are others of course,  and would not now
readily opt for the USA. Minimally life isn't bad at
all in the UK even if we are somewhat congested in the
big cities. Where on earth would one get free
comprehensive medical care without questions asked
about insurance cover etc and with absolutely no
payment once one hits 60? Yes, Mario, it is free for
us old cogers! We stop paying for health cover at 60.
Unfortunately we were cheated on dental care by that
comedian of a Prime Minister, Tony Blair. Where would
one get free (yes free at 60) travel by train, tube,
bus etc in Greater London that makes a car quite
unnecessary? Where would one get the fantastic social
and ethnic diversity that say London offers? Where
else would one get quite the comprehensive quality of
media and intellectual stimulation so easily and
readily? And where can one be quite oneself as in the
UK especially with its great pubs? OK it is far from
perfect but for my money choosing between the UK and
the USA is no brainer. Further, with a composite
population of some 400 million and expanding, the EU
of which we are an integral part, has a lot of
diversity, history and sophistication compared to the
smaller USA---population wise (300 million) and until
very recently, blowing cash as though there were no
tomorrow!

However, there is nothing to beat the USA for those
young people keen to get a good post-graduate
scientific, engineering and medical education that
opens wide career opportunities. On this count, I
think the USA surpases any other country for
considerable scope in PhD and post doctoral
study---notwithstanding Edward's recent 'dictum' in
his specialist area of 'knowledge' about the PhD! And
oh yes, republicanism appeals to me and the space and
its diversity is incredibly attractive in America.
Above all, as in Australia, the greater availability
of space reduces the need to live cheek by jowl that,
in itself can generate tension in a society even
though living in big cities is so attractive on both
sides of the pond.

Let me finish by suggesting that you have had two
bites of the cherry on this issue of UK versus the
USA. Poor Mario had responded by suggesting that the
only test to ascertain the 'greatness' of the USA was
to  visit the place and note how many want to get
there as migrants etc. However, a nameless moderator
blocked his post ( I have a copy), saying, quite
incorrectly of course, that Mario was off [to]pic.
How on earth a reply to a post can be off topic can
only be understood by the incredibly strange logic of
Goanet moderation! How do I know? I have been
moderating Goanet moderators for a while and have
found them seriously unable to adequately do the jobs
they have taken on.
Cornel 
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 It seems that the Middle class in the USA are really
 equivalent to
 'the poor in Western Europe'




Re: [Goanet] Of Gated Communities and Middle-class aspirations

2008-06-23 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Selma
First, pray what gated community do you live in? And
paradise? The mind boggles! I was able to drive
right to your door-step without a gate in sight! (JC
please note). There was very wide two-laned open entry
to your block of new flats with welcome signs for
people to view flats for sale that were quite
reasonably priced too. There was absolutely no sign of
any 'gatedness' (security consciousness/awareness)  or
'gateitude' (attitude) if I can coin entirely new
terms just for the hell of it! Further, I could tell
very quickly that the location  would definitely not
need any kind of gates for a long time to come--if at
all.

Second, middle classes in different parts of the world
will look for 'gatedness' depending on the
environment. They most certainly do so in many cities
in Brazil because murder rates are among the highest
in the world in San Paulo, Rio etc. Indeed, well off
middle classes there have to commute by helicopter to
feel safe and have to employ armed guards too. In
neighbouring Buenos Aires (Argentina) space that is
money engendered, separates the poorer people from the
better off and 'gatedness' of the Brazilian type seems
not necessary--as far as I could tell.

Third, in the UK, the middle classes definitely do not
huddle together. They can afford to stay in more
affluent spaced-out areas and particularly well away
from council house type of working class areas. The
middle classes, and especially those financially well
off, progressively move to the more salubrious areas
that are determined often by space that money buys,
and generally not gates, to keep away the riff raff.
In other words, the riff raff are physically distanced
from the affluent middle classes and it is quite easy
to distinguish areas by social class by just driving
through them and I have yet to see a gated-community
in my several decades here. In the built-up city,
affluent areas generally do not have gates though
individual homes may have electronic gates as the
increased disparity between rich and poor in Blair's
New Labour Britain has been a major contributer to
crime.

It sure takes quite a while to accurately 'suss' out
living complexities in any country.
Regards
Cornel

PS Re your expressed disappointment elsewhere about
Dickens and his several affairs, were there not a
number of women who colluded in the man's romantic and
sexual desires? So, why just deride only him as you
do?

--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I woke up this morning to read that Britain would be
 hit by gale-winds of upto 60 miles per hour. Looking
 through the windows onto the garden that forms part
 of the gated-community I live in, all seemed
 blissfully calm. This, I realised is why the
 middle-class the world over, huddle together and
 cloister in gated communities. I took my daughter
 out and played ball, secure in the knowledge that no
 ill could come to our corner of paradise.



Re: [Goanet] Investigate all IAS officers serving in Goa

2008-06-23 Thread Pandu Lampiao
Aside from IAS officers, one would think investigating all past
Governors would make sense as well.
GWD, Goa sounds more of a soundrels paradise than a touristy place?

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To Goanet -

 All IAS officers, including the Chief Secretary, currently
 serving in Goa, should be asked to declare their real estate
 holdings in Goa and the holdings of their direct relatives.


[Goanet] Extremism... in its varied forms (two books from Sage, a report from the Indian Express)

2008-06-23 Thread Goanet News
RSS, SCHOOL TEXTS AND THE MURDER OF MAHATMA GANDHI
The Hindu Communal Project
ADITYA MUKHERJEE, MRIDULA MUKHERJEE and SUCHETA MAHAJAN, all at
Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi

RSS, School Texts and the Murder of Mahatma Gandhi undertakes the
novel experiment of juxtaposing three apparently quite different
issues, the nature of the RSS school textbooks, the murder of the
Mahatma and the basic ideology of Savarkar and Golwalkar. While deeply
delving into all three aspects, it brings out the deep connection
between them. The book brings home to us in a dramatic manner the
great threat communalism poses to our society, thus making it a
must-read for the general educated reader, including politicians,
political workers, social activists and journalists.

2008 | 120 pages
Paper: Rs 195.00
(978-8-1782-9854-2)
Buy Now
http://www.sagepub.in/browse/book.asp?bookid=1275Subject_Name=mode=1

* * *

STRONG RELIGION, ZEALOUS MEDIA
Christian Fundamentalism and Communication in India
PRADIP NINAN THOMAS, University of Queensland

Religious fundamentalism is a key issue in today's world politics.
…Well written, solidly documented, and supported by Bourdieu's
theoretical insights, this book is highly recommended reading for all
those interested in one of our great contemporary challenges.

Cees J Hamelink
 2008 | 220 pages
Cloth: Rs 495.00
(978-8-1782-9834-4)

http://www.sagepub.in/browse/book.asp?bookid=1261Subject_Name=mode=1


* * *

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/326331.html

Indian Express, 23 June 2008

Quietly, hardline Hindu outfits build a network across
Maharashtra, Goa

Kavitha Iyer

MUMBAI, JUNE 22: Bal Thackeray may have called their bombs damp
squibs and their parent organisations may have quickly disowned
the five men arrested by Maharashtra police last week in
connection with the crude explosives planted at cultural venues
outside Mumbai, but a closer look at the groups and the people
behind them reveal an ominous, new network of Hindu hardliners in
western India.

The five men were members of the Sanatan Sanstha (SS) and the
Hindu Janajagruti Samiti (HJS), hitherto little-known groups
operating in the hinterland of Maharashtra and Goa. Two of them
are also members of another newly launched outfit called the
Dharmashakti Sena, pictures of whose inaugural rally in April show
young men dressed in military fatigues.

These groups, which work like wheels within wheels, have been
quietly mobilising Hindus on a cocktail of Ramrajya, Hindu dharma
and dharmakranti — religious revolution — in and around Mumbai
for a few years now, investigations by The Indian Express have found.

While the SS and the HJS are both registered in Goa as charitable
organisations, the Dharmashakti Sena was set up in 16 Maharashtra
towns and cities on Gudi Padwa day this April. Its stated aim:
establishing Ramrajya and to make Hindus capable of action.

Publications linked to the three groups say the Dharmashakti Sena
offers free training in self-defence and the training involves
inculcating mental courage. It also reminds readers of the
armed battle of revolutionaries and saints, RSS leader
Golwalkar's work on protecting Hindus and his teaching that
weapons should be countered with weapons.

Conversions of Hindus, genocide, what they say is the Congress
government's poor track record against Islamic terrorism,
persecution at the hands of anti-Hindus, are recurrent themes,
alongside a call for Hindus and Hindu organisations to unite.

Unlike leaders of the RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal, the men and women
behind these new outfits are low profile activists who have been
quietly chipping away at the mindset of Hindus in Maharashtra and
Goa. The founder of the SS, the oldest of the three groups, is Dr
Jayant Athavale, a clinical hypnotherapist who practised for two
decades and also set up the Indian Society of Clinical Hypnosis
and Research.

But the man, estimated to be about 60 years old, rarely emerges
from his writing work and is no longer active in the daily
activities of the group, activists said. On account of the task
of writing books on spirituality as per the direction of Guru,
spiritual practice and illness, H H Dr Jayant Balaji Athavale has
kept himself away from the activities of Sanatan Sanstha and Hindu
Janajagruti Samiti for the last four years, SS Managing Trustee
Virendra Marathe told The Indian Express in an e-mail.

His interaction with others is limited to the extent of conveying
his thoughts, if any. Many of the seekers who are associated with
Sanatan Sanstha from the beginning have not seen him for many
years, while new seekers have not seen him at all, he added.

The clinical hypnosis research institute he set up, in Sion,
central Mumbai, is now a small centre of the Sanstha, where
occasional satsangs are held. He travels to all the centres,
said Abhay Vartak, the Mumbai spokesperson for the Sanstha. Unse
milna mushkil hai (it's difficult to meet him).

HJS and SS leaders are also cagey talking about Dharmashakti 

Re: [Goanet] Of Gated Communities and Middle-class aspirations

2008-06-23 Thread Carvalho
--- On Mon, 6/23/08, CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Selma
 First, pray what gated community do you live in? And
 paradise? The mind boggles! I was able to drive
 right to your door-step without a gate in sight! 

Oh dearie, dearie me,
I have no idea what this outburst is all about. I'm sorry you didn't think my 
residence to be a gated community. I'll have to take it up with the lettings 
agent that sold it to us as one. It could also just be that you missed the 
wrought-iron gates around it, the 24/7 security guard, the security cameras, 
the concierge, the 24 hour maintenance team, the manicured lawns, the 
under-ground parking space, the enclosed gardens, the gym and the terrace 
garden. I didn't say it was a paradise, I said it was my corner of 
paradise. Quite a difference in that sentence don't you think? Lastly, why 
you had to publicise a private visit to my house is beyond me. Surely, you 
could have made your point about Gated communities without making it personal. 
I think it shows incredibly poor form on your part to have paid me a visit, 
been my guest for lunch and then let rip on Goanet. I take it, I didn't impress 
you with my lunch either then? 

selma  


  


Re: [Goanet] Of Gated Communities and Misinformation

2008-06-23 Thread Carvalho
--- On Mon, 6/23/08, CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Third, in the UK, the middle classes definitely do not
 huddle together. They can afford to stay in
 more
 affluent spaced-out areas and particularly well away
 from council house type of working class areas. The
 middle classes, and especially those financially well
 off, progressively move to the more salubrious areas
 that are determined often by space that money buys,
 and generally not gates, to keep away the riff raff.

Cornel,
The personal bile of your post knocked the wind out of my sails but now that 
I've recovered, I have to seriously contest your post for its utter lack of 
facts. As usual, google will usually provide one with facts, where posters find 
it appropriate to make up their own.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20070203/ai_n17204423

Among other things, the opening salvo of this article has this to say:

There are now more than 1,000 gated communities in England. More than 100,000 
people live in them

I take it your driving around London is a bit limited then, since you've missed 
everyone of these 1,000 gated communities and your friend circle must be even 
less, if you've never come across anyone of those 100,000 people who reportedly 
live in them. So contrary to what you say, it seems the middle-class in London 
does huddle. The moving to the more salubrious locations, as you put it, 
has a price tag of upwards of UKpound 500,000 and quite honestly do you call 
those people, middle-class in the UK?

selma


  


[Goanet] Mining barons actual troublemakers: UGDP

2008-06-23 Thread cedrico dacosta

Mining barons actual troublemakers: UGDP

Brilliant analysis by the brilliant Radharao

The Naxalite charge by Porrikar is to divert the media
focus on hindu militant organisations planning attacks
in various cities...

So now it is obvious who is behind the BJP victory in
Karnataka...

The statements of Porrikar show how deeply he is in
sync with Goa's main destructors -- the mining
lobby...

I am sure Porrikar, his front benchers and
photographers are well assured a princely sum in his
next back door or midnight toppling bid by this lobby

Cedric da Costa
UAE





  


[Goanet] Goa news for June 24, 2008

2008-06-23 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Monsoon blessing for fliers - Economic Times
[1 hour ago]  ... we are targeting people who do not want to
travel during the family rush time as well as prefer going to
coastal regions, including Kerala and Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/Monsoon_blessing_for_fliers/articleshow/3158406.cmscid=1223814010ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNHZ3ISl3bWVwsdKE9P-Z4xV7hAbCw

*** Goa to launch two new educational estates -
IndiaEduNews.net
[7 hours ago]  Margao: The Government of Goa would soon
establish two separate educational estates for institutions
across the state. The two educational estates, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiaedunews.net/Goa/Goa_to_launch_two_new_educational_estates_4787cid=1223874153ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNEBAssSQ9Lvfb6w7rJaueBmFU9Q9A

*** Senators weigh in on GOA tanker report - OneNewsNow
[8 hours ago]  Boeing, the US company that lost the bid,
protested the contract to the Government Accountability Office
(GOA). Senator Jeff Sessions (R-Alabama) says ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=146110cid=1223667147ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNH4gisldvtidGNxyVuHgQw1tjx7Ww

*** Dazzling display of diamonds in Goa - Times of India
[Jun 20, 2008]  We love organising our show in Goa. People
here are really warm and hospitable, said Rajiv Patankar, chief
of the organising committee. And why not? ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Dazzling_display_of_diamonds_in_Goa_/articleshow/3149447.cmscid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNGwP4OaogeaZfmvfcAgiV7ye-tuRw

*** Anti-mining drive refutes Naxalism in Goa - NDTV.com
[Jun 20, 2008]  PTI As Goa state police confirmed keeping a
close watch on possibility of Naxal-like activities in the
tourist hotspot state's mining belt, anti-mining ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080053824ch=6/21/2008%208:36:00%20AMcid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNGFQKUftyWzuqj6zueLOqainMlGzQ

*** N Goa ZP wants more funds - Navhind Times
[Jun 22, 2008]  by RAMESH SAVAIKAR NT NETWORK BICHOLIM #148;
The North Goa district zilla panchayat members at a meeting held
have demanded that the government allocate more ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062312cid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNEoUjUlTuDLbhrVxmoI2B048TMlbg

*** Goa asks Centre to restore NIT seats - Navhind Times
[Jun 22, 2008]  As Goa has no such institute, it does not have
50 per cent share in the local institute and the Goan students
would now have to compete at the national ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062311cid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNEk3D_asFlfmbI9fD6kLTlEFBoSOA

*** Goa based Sangath receives $3.5 million grant -
IndiaPost.com
[18 hours ago]  CHICAGO: The Goa based social organization,
Sangath, was the recipient of one of the biggest grants this
year from MacArthur Foundation that shells out ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://indiapost.com/article/communitypost/3062/cid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNGCS_vGS0Qxr8xfv2JvsnZitrSUZA

*** Long neglected church in Goa gets official attention -
Thaindian.com
[19 hours ago]  Panaji, June 23 (IANS) The Goa government is
renovating the 430-year-old Santa Anna Church in Talaulim that
has long been a victim of neglect. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/long-neglected-church-in-goa-gets-official-attention_10063178.htmlcid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNFghMpyzaYzVlAa9a4gCCHirVUq4Q

*** Goa of Our Dreams: Living Within a China Wall - Navhind
Times
[3 hours ago]  by Arun Sinha I moved to Goa to join this paper
15 years ago. A large part of me moved to Goa because of my
professional passion but a little part also came ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062420cid=0ei=_DFgSI7ZIYnmggOZ3ZBWusg=AFQjCNE7ps0HBnjgYW1F5zfTS6s_F9BsPw


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Was Goa liberated or Conquered ?

2008-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:45:20 +0530
From: Rishi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There is an interesting discussion taking place on
orkut on events in Goa in 1961. Many history students
and academics are part of this community. 

Mario responds:

One can have an opinion about the effects of what
happened back in 1961, but is there any dispute about
the facts?

Fact 1: Goa was a bucolic Portuguese colony in 1961
way past the point when colonies started becoming
obsolete with the independence of India in 1947 and
the exiting of the Brits and French.  These colonists
were initially reluctant to leave their cheap source
of raw materials and captive markets but the freedom
movement led by Gandhi and others prevailed, not in
small part because liberal Laborite, Clement Atlee,
had replaced fierce opponent of de-colonization, Tory,
Winston Churchill, as Prime Minister of Britain.

Fact 2: The Portuguese on the other hand continued to
hold onto Goa under the bogus sophistry that it was an
overseas province until even pacifist India ran out of
patience and firmly showed them the door in 1961,
pretty much ending the centuries old era of European
colonization of countries populated by brown skinned
people.

So, in response to the debate I would say that, in my
never humble opinion, the Portuguese in Goa were
conquered and Goa was liberated from India's point of
view.

Forty seven years later the debate remains something
that keeps up the blood pressure of many Goan
Portophiles, especially those with nostalgic delusions
of the supremacy of white Europeans and have entirely
too much time on their hands.

Rishi wrote:

BTW Orkut seems to be better social networking site
than a mailing list like goanet.

Mario responds:

Rishi, is there some reason for hiding your identity
or is this a clandestine social networking kind of
thing?

I don't exactly see Goanet as a social networking
site, but more like an open forum for news and
discussion of issues that mostly Goans and some
non-Goan friends are interested in.







[Goanet] Halla Bol

2008-06-23 Thread Pravin Sabnis
23 June 2008
saw the seige of the Director of Panchayats
by angry activists from Ganv Ghor Rakhon Manch
check out pics at
http://picasaweb.google.com/pravinsabnis/GGRMDirOfPanchayats23jun08
The T B Cunha Hall was house-full
as solidarity for Seby 
came from all over Goa.
check out some pics at
http://picasaweb.google.com/pravinsabnis/SolidarityWithSeby
 

 Pravin K. Sabnis 
www.amkanakasez.blogspot.com 
www.ganv-ghor.blogspot.com 



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[Goanet] Of Gated Communities and Middle-class aspirations

2008-06-23 Thread J. Colaco jc
(a) SELMA 1: I woke up this morning to read that Britain would be hit
by gale-winds of upto 60 miles per hour. Looking through the windows
onto the garden that forms part of the gated-community I live in, all
seemed blissfully calm.

(b) CORNEL: Hi Selma First, pray what gated community do you live in?
And paradise? The mind boggles! I was able to drive right to your
door-step without a gate in sight! (JC please note).

(c) PS Re your expressed disappointment elsewhere about Dickens and
his several affairs, were there not a number of women who colluded in
the man's romantic and sexual desires?

(d) SELMA 2: I'm sorry you didn't think my residence to be a gated
community... It could also just be that you missed the wrought-iron
gates around it, the 24/7 security guard, the security cameras, the
concierge, the 24 hour maintenance team, the manicured lawns, the
under-ground parking space, the enclosed gardens, the gym and the
terrace garden.

(e) I didn't say it was a paradise, I said it was my corner of paradise.

(f) Lastly, why you had to publicise a private visit to my house is
beyond me. Surely, you could have made your point about Gated
communities without making it personal.

(g)I think it shows incredibly poor form on your part to have paid me
a visit, been my guest for lunch and then let rip on Goanet. I take
it, I didn't impress you with my lunch either then?
==

jc's response:

Dears,

My plan was to catch up on my work-matters until about early Sept, and
give GoaNet, generally a well deserved break from my spiel.

But, this one floored me.

Here is my two cents worth.

1: Unless Cornel's PhD is on the subject of 'Gated Communities', I
will unreservedly accept Selma's description of her residence as a
home within a gated community.

2: I believe that Selma knows more about her own home than Cornel does.

3: I have previously provided examples of Cornel's (by now) infamous
Misrepresentations. This probably adds to those.

4: It is not up to me to suggest to those who serially Misrepresent,
that they should (please) apologise.

5: I will NOT comment on (c) and (f) + (g) supra. I  had goose bumps
when I read those points.

just my view

jc


[Goanet] Landline - 15/06/2008: Feed The World . Australian Broadcasting Corp

2008-06-23 Thread Ruby Goes
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s2274290.htm

Hi Jane.
You requested info about rice. Here's a recent programme about rice research
from IRRI. Please view.

Thank you Bosco.
rubygoes



[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (24Jun08)

2008-06-23 Thread alexyz fernandes

SEBY'S  SOLIDARITY  MEET

Child to mother at a bus stop:

Mummy why're there so many Cops around T.B. CUNHA  Hall?

To Protect Mine Owners from Non-Existing NAXALITES!


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org



[Goanet] CCP corporator Karishetty surrenders

2008-06-23 Thread Goanet News Service

CCP corporator Karishetty surrenders

PANAJI - The CCP corporator Naguesh Karishetty, implicated by his own people 
in the pay parking scam, surrendered at the Panaji town police at around 
10.45 a.m on Monday and was subsequently arrested under sections 465 (making 
false documents) and 420 (cheating) of the Indian Penal Code. The under fire 
CCP corporator was absconding since Friday.


The police inspector, Panaji town, Mr Francis Corte told 'The Navhind Times,' 
We arrested on the basis of statement implicating him. His bail 
application was also rejected by JMFC court judge, Ms Kalpana Gawas on 
Monday evening.


The police had argued for custodial interrogation to enable them to find out 
where the tickets were printed or procured from and if there were any more 
people involved. The police say that the statements of councillors who 
lodged their complaints were recorded. Mr Rudresh Chodankar, another CCP 
corporator blamed the municipality staff for failing to do their job. He 
argued, It is the duty of the municipality administrative staff once the 
tender is over to re-tender or to send its own staff for collection, and 
questioned why they had not done the same.


Another corporator, Mr Surendra Furtado felt that Karishetty had done a wise 
thing by surrendering and felt that he should speak the truth and inform 
who else was involved in it and how long this was going on.


The arrested corporator will be produced for remand on Tuesday. The other 
two persons named after the interrogation of the two earlier arrested 
suspects who are allegedly involved in this scam - one of them, said to be 
the manager and has returned to his native state and the other one allegedly 
from Merces, are still to be arrested. The police say that they will 
subsequently do so.



http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=062410 



[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 140 - DEJA VU

2008-06-23 Thread Shanti Dhoot
DEJA VU

Sometimes when readers, the posts on Goanet, view,

They must have an uneasy but certain feeling of déjà vu.

They're generally about Konkani and corruption

And the like – without interruption.

Can't we from time to time, also discuss something new?

-Shanti Dhoot


[Goanet] Poem to mOm Mom's Reply and Thoughts

2008-06-23 Thread edwardingoa
*Poem to mOm*

My son came home from school one day,
With a smirk upon his face.
He decided he was smart enough,
To put me in my place.

'Guess what I learned in Civics Two,
that's taught by Mr. Wright?
It's all about the laws today,
The 'Children's Bill of Rights.'

It says I need not clean my room,
Don't have to cut my hair
No one can tell me what to think,
Or speak, or what to wear.

I have freedom from religion,
And regardless what you say,
I don't have to bow my head,
And I sure don't have to pray.

I can wear earrings if I want,
And pierce my tongue  nose.
I can read  watch just what I like,
Get tattoos from head to toe.

And if you ever spank me,
I'll charge you with a crime.
I'll back up all my charges,
With the marks on my behind.

Don't you ever touch me,
My body's only for my use,
Not for your hugs and kisses,
that's just more child abuse.

Don't preach about your morals,
Like your Mama did to you.
That's nothing more than mind control,
And it's illegal too!

Mom, I have these children's rights,
So you can't influence me,
Or I'll call Children's Services Division,
Better known as C.S.D.'

*Mom's Reply and Thoughts*

Of course my first instinct was
To toss him out the door.
But the chance to teach him a lesson
Made me think a little more.

I mulled it over carefully,
I couldn't let this go.
A smile crept upon my face,
he's messing with a pro.

Next day I took him shopping
At the local Goodwill Store..
I told him, 'Pick out all you want,
there's shirts  pants galore.

I've called and checked with C.S.D
Who said they didn't care
If I bought you K-Mart shoes
Instead of those Nike Airs.

I've cancelled that appointment
To take your driver's test.
The C.S.D. Is unconcerned
So I'll decide what's best. '

I said 'No time to stop and eat,
Or pick up stuff to munch.
And tomorrow you can start to learn
To make your own sack lunch.

Just save the raging appetite,
And wait till dinner time.
We're having liver and onions,
A favourite dish of mine..'

He asked 'Can I please rent a movie,
To watch on my VCR?'
'Sorry, but I sold your TV,
For new tires on my car.

I also rented out your room,
You'll take the couch instead.
The C .S.D. Requires
Just a roof over your head.

Your clothing won't be trendy now,
I'll choose what we eat..
That allowance that you used to get,
Will buy me something neat.

I'm selling off your jet ski,
Dirt-bike  roller blades.
Check out the 'Parents Bill of Rights',
It's in effect today!

Hey hot shot, are you crying,
Why are you on your knees?
Are you asking God to help you out,
Instead of C.S.D..?'

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[Goanet] M. Parrikar's MISKUT: Now his FUNDas are mental?

2008-06-23 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears,

Under fire from NGOs and CSOs for labelling a peaceful and overt anti-mining 
activist, Sebastian Rodrigues, as a covert Naxalite, the Leader of Opposition 
lost heart and DENIED what he had said as the Chairman of the ad hoc Committee 
on Home Affairs. [The huge attendance of GGRM outside the Junta House at 3.00 
P.M. for a protest on ex parte stays by the Director of Panchayats on the STOP 
WORK orders on mega illegal projects in villages was a sign of things to come 
at the SOLIDARITY meeting with Sebastion Naxalite Rodrigues later in the 
afternoon ... and enough to rattle the poor Manohar Parrikar]. As predicted in 
my post entitled Advalpal Sex Scandal [ASS], this has become like the 
infamous Miramar Sex Scandal, where Manohar Parrikar conveniently denied what 
he has said and says he was misquoted by the Media. This time the visuals will 
show ... and the sound track will tell   what is the correct thing. One 
cannot hope to fool ALL the people
 ALL the time, Manohar-bab!

Parrikar's Press Conference was at 4.00 P.M.. By that time, he must have 
received information from his cronies in the Police Department that the Tristao 
Braganca de Cunha Hall was full of activists from all walks of life and all 
shade of opinion. It even included politicians who kept petty politics aside 
and spoke in solidarity with Seby. From Sattari to Canacona, men and women came 
from all ages,classes,castes and creeds. By 5 P.M., there was no place in the 
hall even to stand. The stair case was jammed with people. The meeting went on 
till 7.00 P.M. Even then, not everyone who wanted to speak could get a chance 
to speak. They were there to show their support. 
The sentiment was summed up beautifully by Shridhar Kamat, The people from 
Ganv Ghor Rakhonn Manch came to Panaji without lunch but they did not go home 
after finishing their work at the Directorate of Panchayats. They came here 
...all hundreds of them ...to show their solidarity with Seby. Earlier, 
Geraldine Fernandes of GGRM told for all to hear,I have come to say that 
Sebastian has our full support. We have come to his house in Siolim when his 
family was threatened by some anti-social elements. We will be with him 
whenever needed.

So now Manohar Parrikar is talking about TRANSPARENCY about FUNDING of the 
NGOs. Most NGOs, unlike the political parties, operate on shoe-string budgets. 
Rama Lavu Velip hosts Seby in Colomb. No one pays him a paisa. that is village 
hospitality and Rama does not even consider it a way of showing gratitude. It 
is just being a Goan. He and the other villagers of Colomb are grateful that 
someone has given them a voice and a blogspot. The people who came from Colomb 
paid their own bus fare. Not to burden them with expenses, only five persons 
were called from Colomb. No hired buses, no Rs.200/- per head tip, no chicken 
xacuti andfeni was provided to those who attended. NGOs do not operate like 
political parties. The people, not money, is our strength.

Just last week, the Times of India [Goa Edition] carried a single column news 
item saying that the BJP Central leaders were red faced when asked how the 
party could accept funds from DOW CHEMICALS Inc, the American company that owns 
UNION CARBIDE. For those who do not remember, UNION CARBIDE is the company that 
caused the BHOPAL GAS TRAGEDY. Will Parrikar tell us how the BJP can live off 
the blood of thousands of innocents who perished in their sleep at Bhopal and 
whose families are yet to be compensated? How can the BJP take money from a 
company that is a cause of so much misery even today as a result of the gas 
leak? Will Manohar Parrikar make public how much money his party is receiving 
from the mining companies and the chemical industries in Goa? Will he tell us 
who footed the bills of the BJP executive when it met at Marriot Hotel in 
Panaji in 2004 [other than the Central Ministers whose bills were paid by Goa 
Government under Manohar Parrikar] 

There are more questions about things closer home to Manohar Parrikar that can 
be raked up. It is better he does not provoke the NGOs. People living in 
glasshouses should think twice before throwing even dung at others.

The only proper thing for Manohar Parrikar to do now is what he wanted Tara 
Narayan to do many moons ago: say SORRY for casting a personal aspersion 
without any cause. Rajan Narayan stood on prestige and lost his job. One did 
not imagine that would happen. Ditto for the LOO. He is not a law unto himself. 
Do unto others what you expect others to do unto you, Mr. Manohar Parrikar. Aur 
koyee chaara nahin!

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Also Read:
Caste, Capital and Captaincy in the Karnataka Elections
by A.R. Vasavi 
 The Bharatiya Janata Party triumphed in Karnataka because it followed up on 
years of groundwork by cynically combining caste with money power while 
choosing its candidates. The strategy could mark a new in the politics in the 
state.

Forsaking any pretence of giving 

[Goanet] Goa of Our Dreams: Living Within a China Wall (Arun Sinha)

2008-06-23 Thread Philip Thomas
Goa was always dependent on other regions for food, other needs and
employment. Today we are many times more dependent.

For planning purposes, Goa does have to be viewed as an open system not as a
hermetically closed one. For this it is necessary to draw up a statement of
exchange transactions between Goa and the rest of the world (esp the
Centre). A kind of Balance of Transactions. On the outgoing side you could
have export receipts, tourism receipts, direct and indirect tax generation
etc. On the incoming side the share of taxes, Finance and Planning
Commission allocations, other budgetary allocations etc as well as things
like energy supply and so on. It would clearly show whether Goa was
dependent or a net contributor. If it is the latter then Goa would be within
its rights to thump tables to get its fair share of commensurate benefits.



[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar was right in being whistle-blower

2008-06-23 Thread Yash Ganthe
At the meeting of the Goa Legislative Assembly Ad Hoc Committee on Home, the 
chairman is expected to discuss maters related to the Home department with the 
police. On a blog, a well known anti-mining activist claimed to have contacts 
with naxals from Jharkhand.
 
Among other aspects of crime in Goa the chairman raised this point. His 
question to the police was as simple as Are you aware of this?. The police 
agreed that they were indeed aware of this and would keep a watch. All this has 
been recorded in camera.
 
If the anti-mining agitation has the potential to get violent, it needs to be 
corrected. That was the only intention behind raising this point. No accusation 
was made against anybody from his own imagination. His source was a blog 
created by Seby Rodrigues himself. This was submitted to the police. It is now 
for the police to investigate and for Seby to explain.
 
The matter was important enough to be brought up in the meeting. If terrorist 
activities start even on a small scale we never know what they might blow into 
if not checked in time. Several groups in Bihar, Jharkhand, AP are examples of 
strife that started against attrocities and have now turned into terrorist 
organisations. We never know which group might tap the opportunity of the 
anti-mining agitation and spread its wings in Goa.

Parrikar conducted a press conference on Monday 23rd June. Here is a report in 
Gomantak(Marathi):
http://www.dainikgomantak.com/Gomantak/06242008/NT0004A62A.htm

The reactions to Parrikar's comments are pretty surprising. As a rough analogy, 
imagine a father finding his son active on a website that has anti-social 
content. He may be involved in social causes as well. If the father asks his 
wife to keep a watch on him, what wrong does he do by being the whistleblower? 
Probably I am giving a bad analogy assuming that the readers on this group are 
mature enough to understand the point I am trying to make.

I would beg to be corrected if I have my facts wrong.

Regards,
Yash Ganthe