[Goanet-News] NEWS: Canada's Wayne Fernandes has been dreaming about being part of the Olympic Games since the age of 10....

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/field-hockey/story/2008/06/30/olympics-news-fieldhockey.html?ref=rss

Field Hockey Canada names final roster for Olympic Games
Last Updated: Monday, June 30, 2008 | 5:02 PM ET
CBC Sports

Canada's Wayne Fernandes has been dreaming about being part of the
Olympic Games since the age of 10.Canada's Wayne Fernandes has been
dreaming about being part of the Olympic Games since the age of 10.
(Silvia Izquierdo/Associated Press)

The roster of the Canadian men's field hockey team has been officially
declared, sending 18 athletes to the Olympic pitch for the first time
since Sydney 2000.

It has been a seven-year struggle to get to these Games during which
we did not qualify for any major event and we failed to qualify for
Athens 2004, Wayne Fernandes told Field Hockey Canada. Qualifying
for Beijing is the achievement of a lifetime.

Fernandes, a Mississauga, Ont., native, has been dreaming of going to
the Olympics since the age of 10. He was one of the 18 selected for
the team, which is ranked 15th in the world.

The players were nominated for the Olympic squad on June 30 by FHC and
head coach Louis Mendonca (of Thornhill, Ont.). The roster comprises a
mix of veterans and newcomers.

Anthony Wright (of Vancouver, B.C.), who is a third-generation
Olympian and will be on the team with his brother Philip, said his
personal goal is to make a strong contribution to the team and carry
on the family Olympic tradition.
Following parents, grandfather

Anthony and Philip will be following the footsteps of their mother,
father and grandfather as the fourth and fifth members of their family
to compete at the Olympics.

Another set of siblings will join the Wrights on the pitch. Rob and
Peter Short (of Victoria) will also battle it out for Canada, with Rob
holding the distinction of being Canada's most experienced player,
with 271 caps. He has also been named team captain.

Scott Sandison (of Mississauga) has been a member of the national team
since 2002, and will be competing with three metal plates in his jaw
after breaking it while competing in March. To protect his injury, he
wears a mask.

I want these Games to be the peak of my career. I want to go to
Beijing and leave without any regrets, he said.

Team veteran Paul Wettlaufer (of North Vancouver, B.C. ), who has also
competed at three Commonwealth and three Pan Am Games, said that
having missed out on Athens made this Olympics particularly special.

I was at the Olympics in 2000 and had a great experience but I want
to appreciate the seven years that it took us to rebuild and get to
the point where we are at now…all of that experience.
'Trained hard for years'

These athletes have trained hard for years, they love field hockey
and are so proud to be nominated to represent Canada on the Olympic
world stage — they will give their absolute best. I am confident that
our top eight goal will be reached at the Beijing Games, said
Mendonca.

Qualifying for the 2008 Olympics was a feat in itself, because we are
a very small nation as far as the game is concerned. We will be
meeting nations such as Pakistan that are drawing from pools of
millions of players — in Canada we have a pool of 10,000, but we play
with heart and soul, said Canadian team manager Ajay Dube.

The team begins a week of training on July 4 in Vancouver. Another
camp will be held in Victoria from July 17 to 23.

They'll kick off their Olympic quest in an opening match against
Australia (ranked second in the world) on Aug. 12.

Canada will then face Pakistan (ranked sixth) on Aug. 14, the
Netherlands (ranked third) on Aug. 15, Great Britain (ranked eighth)
on Aug. 17, and South Africa (ranked thirteenth) on Aug. 20.

The gold medal game will be played on Aug. 24. Canada 's best Olympic
placing was 10th for the men's team in 2000, 1984 and 1976; and fifth
for the women in 1984. The women did not qualify for the 2008 Olympic
Games.

Other players representing Team Canada include Ranjeev Deol (of
Campbellville, Ont.), Connor Grimes (of Duncan, B.C.), Ravi Kahlon (of
Victoria), Bindi Kullar (of Surrey, B.C.), Mike Mahood (of North
Vancouver), Mark Pearson (of Tswawwassen, B.C.), Ken Pereira (of
Unionville, Ont.), Marian Schole (of Vancouver), Sukhwinder Gabbar
Singh (of Surrey), Scott Tupper (of Vancouver) and David Carter (of
Vancouver).


[Goanet-News] Under pressure from Goa to scrap SEZs, Centre sets conditions: compensate developers, will denotify

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/332275.html

Under pressure from Goa to scrap SEZs, Centre sets conditions:
compensate developers, will denotify
JAYANT SINGH
Posted online: Monday, July 07, 2008 at 2346 hrs Print Email

NEW DELHI, JULY 6: Yielding to Goa's insistence on cancelling all
special economic zones (SEZs), the Commerce and Industry ministry has
finally said it could denotify the SEZs if the state seized the land
allotted to developers and returned their money along with interest
and compensated them for investment already made on the ground.

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According to officials in the Department of Commerce, the Centre would
then be able to denotify these SEZs since they would not have any land
to execute the projects. Six developers have so far paid two of the
three instalments amounting to Rs 280 crore to the Goa Industrial
Development Corporation (GIDC) for about 600 acres allotted to them.
They have made investments of about Rs 500 crore over and above this.

Three of these six SEZs — K Raheja Corporation, Peninsula Pharma
Research Centre and Meditab Specialities — are notified under the SEZ
Act 2005 and the Goa government has been repeatedly asking the Centre
to denotify them due to political opposition to SEZs in the state.

At a meeting of the Board of Approval for SEZs on June 4, the Centre
had made it clear that it was not possible to denotify the three SEZs
since there was no provision to do so under the SEZ Act. But now, the
Centre has given up. Officials in the Commerce department, however,
said Goa refused to compensate the developers and was yet to initiate
talks with them.

There have been widespread protests in Goa against the setting up of
SEZs over the past year by villagers and activists which led the state
government to cancel all approved SEZs and recommend denotification of
the rest by the Central government. This has left SEZ promoters in Goa
hanging in mid-air.

The GIDC had started accepting applications for setting up SEZs in
2006 and had eventually leased this land — a total of 600 acres of
industrial estate — to six companies for SEZs. This land was acquired
by GIDC way back in 2001. Apart from the three notified SEZs, the
others, which had cleared the approval stage, are Inox Mercantile Co
Pvt Ltd, Paradigm Logistics Distribution Pvt Ltd, Planetview
Mercantile Company Pvt Ltd, and Maxgrow Finlease Pvt Ltd.


[Goanet] Bab Andrew and Albert Cabral

2008-07-08 Thread JoeGoaUk


Bab Andrew and Albert Cabral
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[Goanet] Culture and Colonial Histories: II - Modernity in Portuguese colonialism

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
http://cscsarchive.org/irps/irp.2007-02-23.7520077316

Culture and Colonial Histories: II - Modernity in Portuguese colonialism

Last modified 2007-03-12 15:29


Coordinator: Rochelle Pinto

The study of Portuguese colonialism in Goa often suffers the same fate
as that of its colonial empire from the eighteenth century on – a
reliance on terms set by British colonial rule in India. While the
enumeration and regulation of cultural difference in colonial India
(British) has now acquired a rich history, the most fundamental
categories through which colonial culture was viewed by the Portuguese
have scarcely been theorized in the case of Goa. This project traces
the interpretive structures through which questions of caste,
religion, and cultural practices, took shape under the distinctive
pattern of Iberian colonialism.

This involves examining the negotiation of cultural difference through
categories generated by the Catholic Church, by the Portuguese
colonial state, and its associated institutions. Portugal's particular
situation vis-à-vis the enlightenment and its forms of knowledge, did
not make for any direct transition between these early imperatives for
knowledge production about colonial society, and those prompting
orientalist and colonial enterprises of the late eighteenth and early
nineteenth centuries. This study traces texts and practices when the
production of categories and ethnographies had not entirely become a
science that informed colonial governance.


Re: [Goanet] An open letter to Goan Catholics

2008-07-08 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
Hi Selma, Are you sure you're not falling into the trap of those who
want us to believe that our religious identities are the most
important aspects, and that minorities don't belong? Such a logic
doesn't work for too long, as election results have repeatedly shown.
Even Pakistan is paying the price of religious intolerance and
extremism. FN

Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this morass that Goa has  become of hurt religious sensibilities and
communal tensions, Goan Catholics have no place. Sadly, I urge you to
go to the nearest embassy you can find, whether Canada, Portugal or
New Zealand and apply for citizenship. Don't let the fear of the West
keep you for applying. You are already bi-cultural. Your children's
transition to a Western culture will be fluid. It is the best thing
for your children's safety. I write this with all sadnes for my
beloved Goa and Goans.


Re: [Goanet] Advantages of Oil @ $ 200 a barrel

2008-07-08 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Marlon,

 One only has
 to look at the richer tar sands in Alberta. They are
 profitable only when oil prices are greater than
 80-100$ as is the case now. 
 
 
 
Some minor corrections. Some oil sands projects will turn a profit if they can 
sell oil above $35. The newer projects need oil prices to be above $55. The 
problem is that these projects burn natural gas, a clean fuel, to produce 
petrol, a polluting fuel. California is already passing laws that would 
effectively ban oil from Alberta.
 
Secondly, the Japanese Govt has been subsidizing the development of hybrid cars 
for the past twelve years. The US car manufactures have, during the same 
period, lobbied the US govt not to increase the fuel efficiency of US cars. The 
result is that the US is now producing cars with dinosaur engines that no one 
wants to buy. 
 
Third, with fuel at $140 a barrel, the cost of transporting China's products to 
the US is becoming so expensive that it may soon become cheaper to manufacture 
some products in America. Cheney/Bush are to be thanked for bringing 
some Chinese jobs to America. 
 
 
Mervyn3.0


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Re: [Goanet] what's your religion?

2008-07-08 Thread Venantius Pinto
Upon reading Pravin Sabnis' recent post what's your religion?, I
would like to point towards -- Dharma Prachar by Tagore bracketed with
my thoughts on the topic of alienation. The thoughts and reading of
Tagore began after encountering a post on Goanet: Goanet Digest, Vol
2, Issue 728, 2007, on C Fernandes' Remembering the legacy of Froilano
De Mello, which mentioned, His interests included the poetry of
Rabindranath Tagore. In 1946 he published O Cantico da Vida na Poesia
Tagoreana.
_

Upon reading the information above, I moved to take a closer look at
Rabiji; and would like to draw attention to a poem by Tagore, as a
reasonable point of refraction into some of the threads related to
fundamentalism over the past couple of years— having resulted in
anguishes due to various perceptions, over the past some months.

On 24 December 1890,  just shy of his thirtieth birthday, Manashi (The
Lady of the Mind), a collection of Tagore's poetry saw publication.
One poem in the collection, Dharma Prachar (Mission-Work) is about an
incident reported in 1888, in which an Salvation Army* preacher was
assaulted by Bengali Hindu revivalists. Aside from not having any
sympathy for the assailants, Tagore also had little sympathy for
Christian missionaries as a lot. The poem Dhrama Prachar, gives a
glimpse of one rhetorical instance employed to exhort towards
violence — while maintaining an objective analysis of the assailant
mind, and yet giving it voice. Please note that I am not saying the
Hindu mind. This is because, minds which cause anguish to others due
to an/any ideological reinforcing through beliefs rooted in body,
mind, and spirit  —  have much in common, whatever, their religious
underpinnings. To precisely mean that, virulent notions can sprout in
any mind or in any 'herd' of minds. The piece below could very well
have had Christians as the antagonists, in which case one would be
babbling out about being part of the Holy Roman empire or following
the encyclical of the Patriarch, or perhaps even something of the
sternest aspect in scripture, as a justification.

Reference: Rabindranath Tagore: The myriad-minded man, by Krishna
Dutta and Andrew Robinson, Bloomsbury paperback 1997. Original edition
1995.

Listen, Brother Bishu!
Outside -'Victory to Jesu!'
Can you bear to hear that name,
Scions of Aryans you!

Vishnu, Shiva, every god
All will soon be under trod.
If India worships Jesu,
Hindu texts will lie unread.

Brother, I hear that every mage
Every Indian saint and sage,
Vishnu, Harit, Narad, Atri
Weeps and dies in rage.

Where's our mighty karma?
Where the eternal dharma?

'Look out Shibu, look out Haru,
look out Nani, look out Charu,
its no time to watch the fun -
Save your skins, hurry hurry!'

'Police are coming, batons raised,
Run like the streak of flame!
Blessed be the Aryan faith!
Blessed be Bengal's sacred name!'

Tagore's portrayal of the mind laboring under zealotry can apply to
any group -- including Christians and among Christians with barely a
constraint on the violence (no deaths as yet), as seen for instance
against the Believers in Goa. To reiterate, against those of any
persuasion  who feel besieged. This usually happens to the rank and
file in any cause or belief system, as the leaders scheme at control
while often distributing largess. This is similar to accounts of
varied Christian denominations distributing aid with not with the most
altruistic of intentions? But the beginnings of zealotry more often
than not, are a myriad of beginnings which lie buried in many pasts.
In our India, one of many beginnings that has been accepted stretches
way back to the marauders, or should we be saying, the adventurers
from Ghazni — the advent of our sporadic horrors, reaching down the
centuries to Naokhali and onwards to another present; while continuing
to unsettle us as a nation state; and the many as inadvertent
nationalists seeking identity and strength as a nation. Ours is a
complex country in which concessions to various groups have caused
anguish in almost every other community, both at the religious and at
a secular level. For instance, I do not know of other country that
have different justice systems for various communities. The Shah Bano
case is one which comes to mind!

Even Gandhi has weighed in on Christianity, but there is little
concordance among Christians (to mean, largely in Indian) to MKG's
thoughts. One only has to read MKG's reflections on the Sermon on the
Mount, to get a sense of what he saw being passed off and practiced as
Christianity. Gandhi said, If then I had to face only the Sermon on
the Mount and my own interpretation of it, I should not hesitate to
say, 'Oh, yes, I am a Christian.' But I can tell you that, in my
humble opinion, much of what passes as Christianity is a negation of
the Sermon on the Mount. (Encountering God: A Spiritual Journey from
Bozeman to Banaras, by Diana L Eck). He also said, ... I am 

Re: [Goanet] Goan Convention In Toronto

2008-07-08 Thread Camilo Gomes
International Goan Convention is being held in Toronto under the auspices of 
Goa Netters Assoc. of Toronto who will do their best to make the Convention 
a mega success.  Kudos to Dr Kevin Saldanha , Lizete Saldanha, Francis 
Rodrigues and the entire team for coming together and putting up such a 
great  event.


Folks conventions are not held every year  it's a 20 year event or probably 
even more.  Its about to bring our community together.


This is a golden opportunity for like minded Goans to renew friendship and 
exchange views, business ideas and take part in social events .


One of the major attraction of this event is the Super Hit Tiatro, a 
special presentation and  thought of Dr. Kevin Saldanha who approached 
Ace-Director Jr. Menezes to present the Super Hit Teatro Adeus  at the 
LIVING ARTS CENRE, Toronto's prestigious Theatre and it's a honor to our 
actors and actresses to perform  at the LAC in  Mississsauga.  Last year 
Adeus was held here in Toronto Micheal Powers to a packed audience of 600 
plus.  Adeus became hit with running scenes, special effects and the movie 
style video projection etc..  The story of  young lovers acted by Joe Vaz as 
Steve, and Shirley by Faria  one of their best performances in Adeus.


Adeus,

In America they call him a living legend, play writer, Ace-Director Jr. 
Menezes won the hearts of people in Toronto as well as in New Jersey.  His 
supper hit Tiatro excelled with state of the art technology, special 
effects, well written dialogues and solid deliveries.  Raymond Menezes 
performs multi-roles, comedian , father and famous tribal Goan Khasti which 
reminded of the late Prem Kumar.He keeps the audience laughing all the time 
with his hilarious comdy.  He keeps  the Palk alive and demonstrated that we 
Goans  are doing our share to keep amchi Konkani bhas alive here in  Canada 
as well as in US. His unique direction is second to none.


As Adeus is scheduled to be staged on 25th July at Toronto's most 
prestigious Theatre The Living Arts Centre in Mississauga. Once again, Folks 
some reasons you guys missed this drama. last year, now it is golden 
opportunity to witness the super hit at a affordable price of 25 cad 
dollars.


I must say its pretty hard for the actors and actresses ( Goan Arts Troupe) 
to remain in confinement for two months attending Teatro rehearsals  because 
of their family commitments. Keep up the good work guys. The proceeds will 
go towards Goan Charitable Organization. so come and support the good cause.


Camilo  Gomes

..



Re: [Goanet] Advantages of Oil @ $ 200 a barrel

2008-07-08 Thread George Pinto
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Exactly as some ideologues like to lament, it is warped
 ideology that has driven this argument.  The people standing
 in the way of increased domestic production of oil are the
 Democrats and their fundraisers the extreme
 environmentalist cabal which includes the Sierra Club. 


Absolute Republican nonsense from Rush Limbagh's fantasies. Carter, a Democrat, 
proposed moving to solar energy (20% of our needs), a policy which Reagan 
gutted. Carter was right then on conservation, etc. Reagan and the Republicans 
wrong since. The Republican fat-cats have lived well off government energy 
subsidies while pretending to be free-market.

See http://www.energybulletin.net/node/9657

and http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm

Regards,
George






[Goanet] PRESS RELEASE: World Daman Day

2008-07-08 Thread NOËL GAMA

1st WORLD DAMAN DAY – 20TH August 2008

WORLD DAMAN DAY is being celebrated for the very first time on the  
20th of August 2008 under the aegis of WORLD GOA DAY courtesy, Mr.  
Rene Barreto – the founder himself!


Daman has always looked upon Goa as its 'Big Brother.’ But no two  
fingers are alike and so it is with siblings. These cultural  
differences though subtle, lend Daman its uniqueness. This worldwide  
event is a CELEBRATION of the unique culture of the people of Daman  
who have an identity of their very own – the DAMANESE!


“Damão is not just the former name of Daman,” says Noël Gama, Overall  
Coordinator of WDD-08. “It’s another name for the Indo-Portuguese  
subculture of Daman and is a way of life. But most importantly, when  
broken up into its two syllables, it reveals the secret behind the  
characteristic hospitality of the typical Damanese – 'Da mão' – which  
literally translates as, 'give me your hand,' in Portuguese meaning,  
‘welcome!’”


The organizers are sure that the Administration of Daman and the  
Tourism department in particular, will support this endeavour. But  
only the proactive participation of Damaneses abroad will make it a  
resounding success. So, we call upon all Damaneses wherever you may be  
around the globe, to dedicate the 20th of August every year, to  
PROMOTE, PUBLICIZE and CELEBRATE all things DAMANESE by showcasing  
Damanese cultural heritage through artistic and cultural expressions  
and celebrations like…


·  DAMANESE MUSICAL FESTIVALS  COMPETITIONS

·  DAMANESE FOOD FESTIVALS

·  TRADITIONAL/FOLK DANCE PERFORMANCES  COMPETITIONS

·  ART  CRAFT DISPLAYS

·  POETRY  SONGWRITING COMPETITIONS

People of Damanese origin, all over the world, are invited to come  
together and not only actively participate but initiate these  
worldwide celebrations, which will be coordinated by Noël Gama who is  
based in Daman.


Let’s all celebrate all that is Daman – the sights, the sounds, the  
senses and the ‘saudades.’ Let the party begin – feel, think, breathe,  
live, eat and yes, drink to Daman!


FOR MORE DETAILS – Please contact your coordinator in your country of  
residence or the Overall Coordinator in Daman at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 About the Overall coordinator – Noël Gama is the winner of the  
Writer of the Year 2007 award of The Writers Bureau, UK and the  
author of Culture Wise INDIA, now listed on Amazon.com. His  
signature Blog2Book projects caught the attention of a former Consul  
General of Portugal in India, who launched one of his websites, www.noelgama.com 
 on Indo-Portuguese culture and is now being turned into four books  
viz., Viva Damão! The Indo-Portuguese Subculture of Daman,  
“Saudades! Folk Memories of Damão,” “If You Ever Come to Damão –  
Ultimate Travel Guide to a little-known Ex-Portuguese Hideaway”and  
“Where Angels Tread – Photo guide to the Churches, Chapels, Crosses   
Grottos of Daman”


Country Coordinators:

Portugal – Bosco Mendonca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UK – Franco Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bertoldo Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macau – Noel Libano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Holland – Veridiana Veloso de sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fujairah – Maria Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sharjah – Lysa Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Australia – John Machado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saudi Arabia – Sylvia Rebello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UAE – Joe Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ajman – Maria Noruega [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abu Dhabi – Anthony Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dubai – Jack Machado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oman – Sharmila Mascarenhas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saudi Arabia – Brian D’costa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kuwait – Veronica Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USA – Dr. Paresh Mane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Canada – Anthony Machado [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Websites –http://web.mac.com/noelgama/wdd08
http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/

Re: [Goanet] [GOAN-NRI] A caminhao ... from Colvale (circa 1972)

2008-07-08 Thread lino dourado
Hi Joe,
 
Thank you so much. That was great! Sure brought back a lot of pleasant 
memories! .Enjoyed the trip back to yesteryears and all the memories it brought 
back.. Yes I know Burkolo’s caminhão, and I still remember as if it was 
happened yesterday. You and me both were travelling by Burkolo’s caminhão to 
Margao to watch hindi movies in ‘Cinema Metropole’. Let me ask you polietely, 
but what happened to the girl who used to sit next to you? Frankly I don't 
think you were trying for her. Ragar zainaka. Vicharta mhunn.
 
Tuzo xezari,
    Lino 
(Utodd’dekar)
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, JoeGoaUk  wrote:

Thanks FN for the Pic

I remember travelling in this type of vehicle.
We called it carrier (Karier or Kareth).  It was so low that even children
could not travell standing. One of the popular owners of the Karier was 
'Burkulo' ( I'm sure our
Lapit will remember it too) and the rout was 
Velsao-Cansaulim-Utorda-Majorda-Nuvem-Margao..Around late 60's This vehicle was 
replaced by big nose type single doorbuses 'dodge' co. Which required a 'Z' 
shape handle to startit's machine. Bus cleaner would do it from the front of 
the bus
(externally). These were then replaced by Ashok layland and Tata buses with
flat front and more sitting capacity like 56 seating and 22 standing.

Fare was 4 anas (24p) to Margao

The pic has brought back my memories.

Thanks again

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[Goanet] Why do some find it necessary to vomit in public?

2008-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
Tue Jul 1 06:50:50 PDT 2008
From J. Colaco 

What is wrong with you people who want to tell
everybody here about personal details of your parents,
married/unmarried, sudra/chardo/brahman etc. Get a
hold of yourself, guys. Do you really believe that the
rest of us care enough to know this personal junk?

Tue Jul 1 21:43:50 PDT 2008
From Cecil Pinto 

You have clearly articulated what so many of us here
in Goan cyberspace have been meaning to say. Some
individuals are consistently using GoaNet as though it
is some sort of a clinic for personal catharsis and
cure. 

An occasional outburst is understandable but constant
whining about one's circumstances of birth and caste
etc. is the sign of a sick mind. 

Wed Jul 2 08:56:34 PDT 2008
From CORNEL DACOSTA

This may be a bit late from me but I have to agree
with you totally that it is a nonsense when people
have to disclose personal things about themselves in
public when nobody wants to know or care. 

Wed Jul 2 17:51:52 PDT 2008
From J. Colaco 

7: My problem with Monteiro's post about his mother
and grandparents is based on the two disciplines I am
presently immersed in. I absolutely believe that a
person's confidentiality wrt matters private
should be protected even after the person's death.
Even the UK's current Data Protection Act is very
clear about that.

But let me not digress - Here are two points I'd like
you to think about:

a: I could understand IF Monteiro's(Monty) father made
Monty's mother pregnant and deserted her without
marrying her. That would be genuine grounds for Monty
to spill his guts here. But when one realises that
Monty's mother had another child with his father -
what does that say about the relationship? And what
does that say about the ungrateful Monty who in all
likelihood needs professional help? Would you like
GoaNet to be the meeting-place for such sychosomatic
vomit?

Mario responds:

Jose, Cecil and Cornel,

You have made your points.  I was conflicted by your
comments.  Now it's my turn.

The short answer to the question in the title of this
thread is, Because they chose to.

I am a little disappointed at your irritated, strongly
worded umbrage in response, especially because you
have all been steadfast supporters of tolerance and
free speech on Goanet over the years.

I may even agree with the reasons for your umbrage at
the emotional, poignant and painful disclosures by
some other posters regarding the so-called castes or
marital infidelities of their parents - but that is
neither here nor there.

By its history and precedent, Goanet has been an open
public forum for issues of interest to Goans, mostly
Goa-centric, but with numerous exceptions, as long as
these avoided personal abuse and the thoughts were
expressed with reasonable civility.  The beauty of an
open forum is that members should be able to express
themselves whithout worrying about the umbrage of
others - who can respond and take issue if they choose
to.
 
Leaving aside the psychobabble inherent in some of the
responses in this thread, I, too, noticed that Selma's
disclosures about the castes her parents were tagged
with by Goan society, and had risen above, and the far
more painful disclosures by John, whose life had not
descended into chaos as a result, were not what we are
normally used to seeing on Goanet.  But, we have not
walked in their shoes, and have not experienced what
they obviously were forced to during their formative
years.

When I read what THEY felt they had to write about
issues that had to be so personal and deep-seated, my
reaction was to sigh, shake my head and thank God I
did not have to go through what they obviously
experienced growing up.

Did they vomit on all of us as the title of this
thread alleges irritably, or did they feel comfortable
enough with us, perhaps mistakenly, to vent their
innermost feelings believing they could trust us to
handle their disclosures with some level of sympathy
and understanding?  Make up your own minds.

Being a public forum, we individually also have the
right to not care enough to know this personal junk,
or to believe that this is using Goanet for personal
catharsis and cure, and that nobody wants to know. 
One's right of free speech includes the corresponding
right of others to not listen, care or agree.

However, for those who are not mental health
professionals but businessmen, teachers or engaged
euphemistically in two disciplines I am presently
immersed in to suggest a need for psychological
professional help was probably going a tad further
than was really necessary or appropriate in my never
humble opinion.

In his Treatise on Toleration, Voltaire wrote, Not
only is it extremely cruel to persecute in this brief
life those who do not think the way we do, but I do
not know if it might be too presumptuous to declare
their eternal damnation., a sentiment that was later
paraphrased as, I disapprove of what you say, but I
will defend to the death your right to say it.

Finally, I also felt some 

[Goanet] Indo-French satellite meeting held in Goa

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
India, France to launch tropical weather satellite in 2009
7 Jul, 2008, 2039 hrs IST, PTI

NEW DELHI: India and France will jointly launch a satellite next year
to understand climate change and the tropical weather phenomena
including monsoons.

The joint working group of the Indian Space Research Organisation
(ISRO) and the French Space Agency Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales
(CNES) met in Goa Saturday and Sunday to review the progress made on
this.

ISRO chairman G. Madhavan Nair and CNES president Yannick d'Escatha
discussed the various modalities and technicalities involved with the
launch of satellite Megha Topiques.

The satellite will carry four payloads, a microwave radiometer, a
humidity sounder, a radiation measuring instrument and a radio
occultation sounder for atmospheric studies, an official of the
science and technology ministry said Monday.

At the meeting, an agreement was signed between both the space
agencies on the policy for distribution of data received from Megha
Tropiques.

The policy will enable the global scientific community to have free
access to Megha Tropiques data after calibration and evaluation of the
payloads by scientists from India and France.

This data is expected to enhance a better understanding of the
tropical weather phenomenon including the monsoons, the official
said.

The meeting also reviewed the status of SARAL, another Indian
satellite mission with payloads from CNES for the study of ocean.

Besides the satellite missions, scientists from ISRO and CNES
exchanged ideas for cooperation in conceiving space based systems and
methodologies, which lead to a better understanding to tropical
weather and climate.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/ET_Cetera/India_France_to_launch_tropical_weather_satellite_in_2009/articleshow/3207984.cms


[Goanet] Pell denies misleading abuse victim - from ninemsn

2008-07-08 Thread Ruby Goes
This article appears in news.ninemsn.com.au and I thought you should see it.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=593307 

If you cannot click on the link above, copy and paste the entire address
below into your web browser. 
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=593307 

For all the latest news around the globe, check out ninemsn. 
http://ninemsn.com.au 

 

Good Morning  Readers of Goanet.

This is big news in my neck of the woods. Perhaps you would read it?

Pah, there goes the patriarchy. Quel dommage! MEA CULPA.

PEACE ON EARTH. AND GOOD WILL TO MEN. (NOT IN SYD CBD)

I  KNOW THAT OUR LOVELY JOURNOS WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ALL THIS;.  WILL
LET YOU KNOW ALL THINGS PAPAL, AS THEY UNFOLD.

Bitte, s'il vous plait Bosco, please allow this article on Goanet.

rubygoes

 



[Goanet] Aloe Vera Plant Growing Usage Tips

2008-07-08 Thread [Edu's World]
Aloe Vera Plant Growing  Usage
Tipshttp://tipnut.com/aloe-vera-plant-growing-usage-tips/

[image: Picture of Potted Aloe Vera Plant - Tipnut.com]*Buying Tips*

   - This plant usually grows slowly inside a house–purchase a large, more
   mature plant if possible. If a young plant is your only option, you can
   still use it for first aid treatments but know it will take a few years to
   get large.
   - Young aloe plants are potent enough to use for first aid treatments,
   but the more mature plant offers a stronger potency, strength does increase
   with age.

*Growing Tips*

   - Aloe Vera can be planted indoors or outdoors, but will turn brown in
   harsh sunlight so plant in indirect light.
   - Will freeze, make sure to protect it during frost dangers. Not suitable
   for wintering over in cold weather zones.
   - Will grow faster outside than inside, but definitely makes a good
   indoor plant.
   - Use well-drained sandy potting soil, a good quality commercial potting
   mix with extra perlite, granite grit, or coarse sand are added is
   recommended. Cacti and succulent mixes may also be used. Source: Wikipedia:
   Aloe Vera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloe_vera.

*Watering*

   - Aloe Vera is a succulent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succulent,
   don't overwater.
   - Allow the soil to become fairly dry before watering. Lightly water
   during winter months since the drying out will be slower.
   - If planting in a pot, make sure there is a drainage hole so the water
   can drain easily.

*Repotting*

   - When the plant is rootbound it will be top heavy and will send out more
   new shoots or pups, repot.
   - Remove new shoots when they are 3 to 4 inches high and replant in their
   own pots. If you don't, they will suck life from the mother plant. Signs of
   this happening: The mother plant will get bright green and spread its leaves
   horizontally rather than vertically.
   - Water the pups well when repotting then don't water again for about 3
   weeks, forcing the new roots to get strong and seek water. They may turn
   grey or brown initially, this is normal. These make great gifts so give
   freely!

*Symptoms Of Poor Plant Care*

   - *Leaves lie flat instead of upright*: usually because of insufficient
   light.
   - *Leaves are thin and curled*: plant is not being watered enough, it's
   using up its own liquid.
   - *Leaves are brown*: too much direct sunlight.
   - *Very slow growth*: High alkaline soil or water; too damp for too long;
   not enough light; too much fertilizer.

*Removing Leaves*

   - Harvest leaves as you need, the plant wound is quickly sealed and
   healed. The leaf will not grow back, choose those closest to the ground as
   they are the most mature and most potent.

Using Aloe Vera For First Aid Treatments

[image: Picture of Juice Dripping From Aloe Vera Plant - Tipnut.com]

*How To Cut A Leaf*

   - Remove the leaf from the plant with a sharp knife.
   - Trim the thorny edges from the severed leaf, then slice the leaf across
   its width. The inner transparent, gooey gel is ready to be applied directly
   to the afflicted area. Use generously, it will be absorbed by the skin
   within several minutes.
   - After the gel from the first layer of ruptured cells has run dry,
   scratch the surface with a clean knife to rupture more cells, releasing more
   juice. This can be continued until there is nothing but green skin left.

*How Long Will A Leaf Last*

   - Wrap partially used leaves in foil or plastic wrap and refrigerate, it
   will last for days.

*Consuming The Plant Directly*

   - The colorless pulp is tasteless, but first rinse off the bitter yellow
   sap. Peel the green skin from the pulp, then rinse off the sap with cool
   water.

*Source* - More complete notes  tips can be found in the booklet:

*The Ancient Egyptian Medicine Plant Aloe Vera Hand Book
Author: Max B. Skousen
Aloe Vera Research Institute (1982)*


-- 
Have a nice day
edu

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http://www.youtube.com/edwardlopes7
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[Goanet] An open letter to Goan Catholics

2008-07-08 Thread edward desilva
Hi All,
I wanted to include only part of the text below, but the whole of it is worth 
reading again.
My brother in law said that his late father (tarvoti) had said to him, 'all 
Goans should go abroad'.
When he came abroad (through his wife), he said, 'now, I know my father was 
right to say that. All Goans should go aborad'.
Where is my brother in law now? in Goa. Has been there for the last 15 years, 
he loves Goa. 
Do 'I' want to be in Goa - YES. 1000 times YES. Destiny dictates otherwise.
ED.
-
Selma said,
I spent three years of my college life in Panjim. Being of Shasti origins, my 
best friend from San Jose d'Ariel and I, would routinely make a trip to Margao 
every weekend. There we would spend endless hours at Peter Stores, buying 
knickknacks we didn't need and then heading to Loughinos for a falooda and 
sausage pao. On our weekend binge into town, being hormonally-charged teenagers 
at the time, we would try to elicit as much eve-teasing as possible from 
teenage boys, feeding into our insecure budding egos. The fear of being 
accosted or assaulted rarely entered our minds.

Those days are long-gone. Today, eve-teasing in Margao is occasion for 
full-scale communal riots and anticipation of these riots, is reason enough to 
bring in swords by the dozens. The Goan Catholic cannot cope with this. The 
male of our species has been emasculated by centuries of Sunday Mass sermaos. 
He has neither swords, nor koitos nor the inclination with which to rise in 
protest. The female of our species is educated and emancipated. She wants 
nothing more than to get on with her professional and family life. In this 
morass that Goa has  become of hurt religious sensibilities and communal 
tensions, Goan Catholics have no place. Sadly, I urge you to go to the nearest 
embassy you can find, whether Canada, Portugal or New Zealand and apply for 
citizenship. Don't let the fear of the West keep you for applying. You are 
already bi-cultural. Your children's transition to a Western culture will be 
fluid. It is the best thing for your children's safety.
I write this with all sadnes for my beloved Goa and Goans.
selma



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[Goanet] Swords seizure: Belgaum man in

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
Swords seizure: Belgaum man in
Panaji, DHNS:

The Goa police have brought a man from Belgaum in connection with the
seizure of swords after the communal flare-up in Margao last month.
Superintendent of Police S Prabhudessai said that Jagdish Singh,
believed to have transported the swords from Punjab to Goa en route to
Belgaum is being questioned.

Five persons were arrested after the police, acting on a tip-off,
found swords being transported into the state. Some 17 swords have so
far been recovered, SP said. Among the arrested is one Bashir Shaikh,
a resident of Moti Dongor in Margao. Shaikh's furniture shop was set
on fire on June 28, the night after communal tension gripped Margao as
Bajrang Dal and RSS activists targeted Muslim shopkeepers and
residents over eve-teasing incident. Shaikh reportedly told the police
that swords had been procured for self-defence.

This is the second incident in recent months that attempts have been
made to polarise the residents of Margao over religious lines. Margao,
from where Chief Minister Digambar Kamat was elected, has seen a large
ingress of Muslim settlers from Karnataka.

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jul82008/national2008070777555.asp


[Goanet] Under pressure from Goa to scrap SEZs, Centre sets conditions: compensate developers, will denotify

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/332275.html

Under pressure from Goa to scrap SEZs, Centre sets conditions:
compensate developers, will denotify
JAYANT SINGH
Posted online: Monday, July 07, 2008 at 2346 hrs Print Email

NEW DELHI, JULY 6: Yielding to Goa's insistence on cancelling all
special economic zones (SEZs), the Commerce and Industry ministry has
finally said it could denotify the SEZs if the state seized the land
allotted to developers and returned their money along with interest
and compensated them for investment already made on the ground.

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According to officials in the Department of Commerce, the Centre would
then be able to denotify these SEZs since they would not have any land
to execute the projects. Six developers have so far paid two of the
three instalments amounting to Rs 280 crore to the Goa Industrial
Development Corporation (GIDC) for about 600 acres allotted to them.
They have made investments of about Rs 500 crore over and above this.

Three of these six SEZs — K Raheja Corporation, Peninsula Pharma
Research Centre and Meditab Specialities — are notified under the SEZ
Act 2005 and the Goa government has been repeatedly asking the Centre
to denotify them due to political opposition to SEZs in the state.

At a meeting of the Board of Approval for SEZs on June 4, the Centre
had made it clear that it was not possible to denotify the three SEZs
since there was no provision to do so under the SEZ Act. But now, the
Centre has given up. Officials in the Commerce department, however,
said Goa refused to compensate the developers and was yet to initiate
talks with them.

There have been widespread protests in Goa against the setting up of
SEZs over the past year by villagers and activists which led the state
government to cancel all approved SEZs and recommend denotification of
the rest by the Central government. This has left SEZ promoters in Goa
hanging in mid-air.

The GIDC had started accepting applications for setting up SEZs in
2006 and had eventually leased this land — a total of 600 acres of
industrial estate — to six companies for SEZs. This land was acquired
by GIDC way back in 2001. Apart from the three notified SEZs, the
others, which had cleared the approval stage, are Inox Mercantile Co
Pvt Ltd, Paradigm Logistics Distribution Pvt Ltd, Planetview
Mercantile Company Pvt Ltd, and Maxgrow Finlease Pvt Ltd.


[Goanet] Portugal assures support to India at NSG

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEH20080707145125

Portugal assures support to India at NSG
Tuesday July 8 2008 01:12 IST

IANS

Get a 30% discount on Calls to India.

NEW DELHI: Portugal has said that it will support proposal to allow
nuclear trade with India at the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

We (will) support India in the NSG. I had the opportunity to say to
the Indian (External Affairs) minister that this is the Portuguese
position, portuguese Minister for Foreign Affairs Luis Amado told
reporters here on Monday.

We understand India's concerns to meet its strong demand of energy, he said.

The minister pointed out that Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Socrates
had made a similar announcement of his country's position during his
visit to India in December 2007 to attend the India-EU summit.

The Indian government is currently trying to push through the civilian
nuclear deal with US through its domestic political barriers, and to
get the deal approved before the Bush administration leaves office by
the end of this year.

The next step for India would be to sign a safeguards agreement with
the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for its civilian nuclear
plants - the draft has reportedly been finalised, but not signed yet.

The government is likely now to sign the agreement, after getting a
new political ally, even as the Left parties have threatened to
withdraw support if India goes to the IAEA.

Thereafter, the US, supported by Britain and France, would shepherd a
proposal in the NSG for modifying its guidelines to allow trade in
nuclear fuel and technology with India, a non-signatory to the Nuclear
Non-Proliferation Treaty.

But NSG members have been first eager to get a look at the safeguards
agreement before agreeing to the proposal by consensus.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is currently on a visit to Japan to
attend the G-8 summit, where he is scheduled to meet President Bush
Wednesday and also expected to lobby for NSG support among the
attending heads of government and state.

Once the NSG allows trade with India, the bilateral agreement for
civilian nuclear cooperation will go to the US Congress for an
up-and-down vote.

The portuguese minister began his three-day visit to India Monday,
accompanied by a delegation of top business leaders with diverse
interests ranging from banking to infrastructure.

After his meeting with External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, he
addressed Indian business leaders at the Indo-Portuguese Business
Council.

On Tuesday, he leaves for Goa to renew ties with Portugal's former
colony. He will meet Goa Chief Minister Digamber Kamat and business
people. Amado will return to Portugal via Mumbai on Wednesday.


Re: [Goanet] An open letter to Goan Catholics

2008-07-08 Thread floriano


Dearest Selma,

Would you please put in a word for me at any prefered Embassy nearest to 
you? That will take a lot of running around for me to do. I think I will 
take your advice, having resisted this urge for such a long time,


UNLESS

(:- you use your good offices with the Archbishop of Goa  Daman to convince 
him that henceforth the Sunday Services in every church and chapel should be 
converted into the training camps to teach girls and boys how to effectively 
wield sharpened  swords which can separate the head from the shoulders in 
one go. Maybe, I can take the contract to supply the swords and not look for 
a visa.  :-)


B/rgds

floriano
goasuraj

- Original Message - 
From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: [Goanet] An open letter to Goan Catholics



Those days are long-gone. Today, eve-teasing in Margao is occasion for 
full-scale communal riots and anticipation of these riots, is reason 
enough to bring in swords by the dozens. The Goan Catholic cannot cope 
with this. The male of our species has been emasculated by centuries of 
Sunday Mass sermaos. He has neither swords, nor koitos nor the inclination 
with which to rise in protest. The female of our species is educated and 
emancipated. She wants nothing more than to get on with her professional 
and family life. In this morass that Goa has  become of hurt religious 
sensibilities and communal tensions, Goan Catholics have no place. Sadly, 
I urge you to go to the nearest embassy you can find, whether Canada, 
Portugal or New Zealand and apply for citizenship. Don't let the fear of 
the West keep you for applying. You are already bi-cultural. Your 
children's transition to a Western culture will be fluid. It is the best 
thing for your children's safety.


I write this with all sadnes for my beloved Goa and Goans.

selma




[Goanet] An open letter to Goan Catholics

2008-07-08 Thread Arwin Mesquita
I totally disagree with this doomsday suggestion  defeated attitide. Every
place as its positives  negatives; and I am saying this with confidence
after travelling to many parts of the World; particularly the West and
having also being a permanent resident of Goa. Instead of taking easy route
of complaining  saying all the Cant Do's lets look at Can Do's instead.

I believe if we look at latter we can definetely do wonders for Goa; our
home least we forget!!


Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:14:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]  An open letter to Goan Catholics
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
   goanet@lists.goanet.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I spent three years of my college life in Panjim. Being of Shasti origins,
my best friend from San Jose d'Ariel and I, would routinely make a trip to
Margao every weekend. There we would spend endless hours at Peter Stores,
buying knickknacks we didn't need and then heading to Loughinos for a
falooda and sausage pao. On our weekend binge into town, being
hormonally-charged teenagers at the time, we would try to elicit as much
eve-teasing as possible from teenage boys, feeding into our insecure budding
egos. The fear of being accosted or assaulted rarely entered our minds.

Those days are long-gone. Today, eve-teasing in Margao is occasion for
full-scale communal riots and anticipation of these riots, is reason enough
to bring in swords by the dozens. The Goan Catholic cannot cope with this.
The male of our species has been emasculated by centuries of Sunday Mass
sermaos. He has neither swords, nor koitos nor the inclination with which to
rise in protest. The female of our species is educated and emancipated. She
wants nothing more than to get on with her professional and family life. In
this morass that Goa has  become of hurt religious sensibilities and
communal tensions, Goan Catholics have no place. Sadly, I urge you to go to
the nearest embassy you can find, whether Canada, Portugal or New Zealand
and apply for citizenship. Don't let the fear of the West keep you for
applying. You are already bi-cultural. Your children's transition to a
Western culture will be fluid. It is the best thing for your children's
safety.

I write this with all sadnes for my beloved Goa and Goans.

selma







--

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:15:22 +0100
From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Decline of Panjim, and expanding slums in Goa
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
   goanet@lists.goanet.org
Message-ID:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

2008/7/7 Sandeep Heble [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dear all,

 After going through the TOI report, I guess we all owe Rajan an apology.

 All this time, we were foolish to think that Rajan was Anti-migrants.

 We now learn that because of Rajan's Petition, not only will the city
 be much cleaner than before but the migrants too will have decent
 toilets whenever they want to answer the calls of Nature.  While we
 are only paying lip-service to their sympathetic needs, Rajan is
 genuinely working to give this poor community a better life. Pravin
 always used to tell me that Rajan in reality is not the same person as
 he appears on the Forum. How Rajan would often advice the migrant
 Labourers to educate their children so that this community could
 prosper in the future, etc.

 Now we really know that Pravin was right and we were all wrong. Let's
 ignore his harsh words. Through his actions, it is quite apparent that
 Rajan is indeed making conditions favourable for Migrants and their
 living.

 As the phrase goes, Actions speak Louder than words!

 Cheers
 Sandeep

RESPONSE: I just read that there is a place in India which pays People
to use its toilets, perhaps the same should be done in Goa, pay
everyone to come over and have a pee or a shiii!

--
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


--

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:05:48 +0100 (BST)
From: JOHN MONTEIRO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] A Trip Down Memory Lane
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
   goanet@lists.goanet.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Thank you Rajiv,

Its always nice to experience someone else's memories in the way the author
has described here. Was this you?


A Trip Down Memory Lane was very nice  very pleasant for me to read,
especially when the author mentioned the two lives of the youth  the older
man.


I like the way that the author put a neat separation between the two people,
the 20-year old  the 50 year-old but still able to balance his life.  We
all who love these type of stories  memories all balance a the little tear
in the corner of our eyes, for the 20-year old who was there all those years
ago, and the 50 year old that he is today.


Wonderful stuff



Re: [Goanet] open letter to goan catholics

2008-07-08 Thread Beny Pereira
i have always read selma's comments with impunity. that they are too hollow and 
rarely do matter to the common man. cause she discussed issues which were non 
to caring to the general folk. but in this letter, i must really appreciate her 
for hitting out at fellow catholics. we have let ourselves become nomads in a 
no mans land. we have forgotten our roots. we only look forward to getting 
portuguese passports. worst of all we dont have a sense of belongingness even 
to our beloved GOA which we pride ourselves on. but we allow ourselves to be 
carried on with the tide. 
eveteasing has always been there in goa and all around. a few whistles, a few 
words, and a bit of line maring. but we goans respect the women folk. these 
idiots just look at womens as items of pleasure, thats why the intolerance now. 
it is true that there is a feeling caving in almost senses that we are allowing 
ourselves to be known as minorities. we catholics in goa have never had these 
feeeling of minorities. we have always lived happily  with our majority hindu 
brethren. nor had the hindus have anything to worry from us fellow christians. 
how come suddenly we feel that discord is gaining strength within goa. come on 
catholics and the church at large, wake up. we are goans first. this outside 
community is today telling  us that minorities are under threats in our goa. 
infact we should tell them to pack their bags and go back to their places. 
in this struggle against the outsiders, we have to join forces with the hindus 
of goa or atleast give our tacit support.  the incidents in margao are just not 
hindus v/s muslims. it should be goans v/s outsiders (of course, muslims)this 
war should be goans against outsiders who are actually dividing the complacent 
goan community of hindus and christrians.  rather we are slowly being 
outnumbered by the other minorities (muslims) from outside who know nothing 
else but spit venom and hatred against others and ever ready to defend 
themselves with swords. and we just have our good hearts as goans to welcome 
them.
these are not stray incidents of communal violence. these is vicious propaganda 
to get in their community by thousands in their govt funded slums with all 
backing from hte powers that be. Housing Board, moti dongor has no goans. what 
a irony. Housing Board for whom. How come our poor gauddis, both hindus adn 
christians dont get a place in this plots. we have to fight the govt too on 
this factor.
but we catholics have first to show solidarity with our hindu brethren. atleast 
cause of you, we know the reality of thes outsiders. 
Beny Pereira
Dubai  - UAE
I spent three years of my college life in Panjim. Being of Shasti origins, my 
best friend from San Jose d'Ariel and I, would routinely make a trip to Margao 
every weekend. There we would spend endless hours at Peter Stores, buying 
knickknacks we didn't need and then heading to Loughinos for a falooda and 
sausage pao. On our weekend binge into town, being hormonally-charged teenagers 
at the time, we would try to elicit as much eve-teasing as possible from 
teenage boys, feeding into our insecure budding egos. The fear of being 
accosted or assaulted rarely entered our minds.

Those days are long-gone. Today, eve-teasing in Margao is occasion for 
full-scale communal riots and anticipation of these riots, is reason enough to 
bring in swords by the dozens. The Goan Catholic cannot cope with this. The 
male of our species has been emasculated by centuries of Sunday Mass sermaos. 
He has neither swords, nor koitos nor the inclination with which to rise in 
protest. The female of our species is educated and emancipated. She wants 
nothing more than to get on with her professional and family life. In this 
morass that Goa has  become of hurt religious sensibilities and communal 
tensions, Goan Catholics have no place. Sadly, I urge you to go to the nearest 
embassy you can find, whether Canada, Portugal or New Zealand and apply for 
citizenship. Don't let the fear of the West keep you for applying. You are 
already bi-cultural. Your children's transition to a Western culture will be 
fluid. It is the best thing for your children's safety.

I write this with all sadnes for my beloved Goa and Goans.

selma






[Goanet] Helipads to be set up in Bicholim to save flood victims

2008-07-08 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye


BICHOLIM JULY 8: As a measure to tackle floods in Bicholim taluka it
was decided to establish two helipads in the

taluka.

The decision to this effect was taken at a meeting of the Emergency
Flood control committee held at the Bicholim

Mamletdar office on Saturday. The deputy collector, Arvind Bugde
chaired the meeting.

It may be recalled that flood had hit Bicholim taluka last year and
had destroyed property worth lakh of rupees. The

Bicholim and Sanquelim market was submerged under water and several
people had to be rescued from their homes.
After this incident a special committee consisting of people from the
flood affected areas, government officials was

formed under the chairmanship of the deputy collector.

On Saturday a special meeting was held to discuss the measures to be
taken if the floods hit the taluka in the future. The

people brought to the notice that last year there were some instances
when the people had to be rescued as water

engulfed their houses. The fire force had to struggle hard to save them.

In the meeting it was decided that in case of emergency there should
be helicopters in the area so that the people could

be saved. In view of this it was decided to construct of two helipads
one in Bicholim at Lakheram and the other on the

ground of the Government college Sanquelim. To construct a permanent
helipad it was decided to acquisition land  at

Harvalem Sanquelim.

The deputy collector told that during emergency a warning siren would
be sounded and the people would be shifted to

safer places. Discussions on various topics including the places to be
reserved for the flood victims, supply of food,

medicine and other facilities was also held.

Several points including taking appointing a personnel on the dam at
Virdi (Maharastra), making special chart to

indicate high and low tide, cutting down dangerous branches of trees
were also discussed during the meeting.



The officials from PWD, electricity, transport, police, education,
fire force, BDO and muncipality were also present on

the occasion.


[Goanet] Nursing... two stories from Goa

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
Nursing students' demand met
8 Jul 2008, 0611 hrs IST,TNN

PANAJI: The students of the Institute of Nursing Education (INE)
called off their strike on Monday as they won over exclusive rights to
the new building constructed at Bambolim to house the institute.

Joint secretary for health, Dattaram Sardessai, issued a letter to the
protesting students on the afternoon of July 7, 2008 stating that the
new building at Bambolim will be used exclusively for the activities
of the INE. The letter also stated that the two blocks occupied by
the Emergency Management Research Institute (EMRI) ambulance service
will be shifted with effect from Monday.

Provision has now been made to accomodate EMRI in an equivalent space
in the Goa Medical College. The letter was issued on the instructions
of health minister, Vishwajit Rane. As a result, the inaugural
ceremony of the new construction was held as scheduled in the evening
on July 7, 2008 wherein the health minister assured the students the
building will be utilised solely for housing the nursing institute.

The inaugural ceremony was also attended by the chief minister,
Digambar Kamat, speaker of the legislative assembly, Pratapsingh Rane,
parliamentary secretary, Francis Silveira, chief secretary, J P Singh,
dean of GMC, Dr V N Jindal, director of health services, Rajnanda
Desai and Dr Pramod Salgaonkar of the women's commission.

Speaking on the occassion, the chief minister said that giving state
the best of health services is a priority for his government. Kamat
also said that he further plans to introduce post-graduate course in
nursing in the institute.
Meanwhile, the students of the INE have demanded that the principal of
the college should allow the institute to be shifted to the new
complex with immediate effect.

It may be recalled that the students of the institute had boycotted
their classes and staged a protest outside the new complex at Bambolim
since Sunday. The hundred students of the institute were protesting
against the handing over part of the new structure to the Hyderabad
based EMRI. The new structure was originally constructed exclusively
to house the INE and the infrastructure would qualify the institute
for recognition from the Indian Nursing Council (INC).

However, the authorities were forced to issue the letter on Monday
evening assuring that EMRI would be moved out after the students
refused to call off the strike based on verbal assurances from the
head of the institute and the director of health services.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/Nursing_students_demand_met/rssarticleshow/3208999.cms
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PANAJI: In an effort to increase chances of obtaining Indian Nursing
Council (INC) recognition, the students of the Institute of Nursing
Education accompanied by their parents staged a day-long protest
outside the new building constructed to house the college.

The new structure originally constructed exclusively for the purpose
of housing the Institute of Nursing Education was scheduled to be
inaugurated on July 7. But the state government's decision to hand
over a part of the structure to Emergency Management Research
Institute (EMRI) has angered the students. EMRI is a private ambulance
service with its head office based in Hyderabad. The company was to
conduct interviews on Sunday at 9 am. The protestors, however, blocked
the EMRI officials from entering the building and the interviews were
thereafter conducted at the Panaji Residency.

A full-fledged building is one of the pre-requisites to qualify for
the recognition. Students of the nursing institute fear that with EMRI
being accommodated in the new structure the nursing college will
suffer a setback. A delegation of the aggrieved students and parents
had earlier met the chief minister, Digambar Kamat where they were
assured that the accommodation of EMRI is only a temporary
arrangement.

On Sunday morning, a delegation also contacted health minister
Vishwajit Rane and demanded that the use of the new building for any
other purpose than housing the nursing institute should be disallowed.
However, the protestors said that they were not extended any support.

The students also said that they also did not receive any positive
response from the principal of their institute. Therefore, the
students have decided to continue their protest and boycott classes
from Monday onwards.

Meanwhile, criticising health minister Vishwajit Rane's move to
accommodate the emergency ambulance service and its call centre at the
new building, the state BJP said it would support the agitating
students.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/Nursing_students_demand_INC_recognition/rssarticleshow/3204587.cms


[Goanet] Fw: Riposte to Democracy as an Illusion: The Goa Experience - Kind attn. Mr. Arun Sinha

2008-07-08 Thread goasuraj


- Original Message - 
From: goasuraj

To: Navhind Times
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Riposte to Democracy as an Illusion: The Goa Experience - Kind 
attn. Mr. Arun Sinha



JULY 8, 2008

To,
Mr. Arun Sinha,
The editor,
Navhind Times.
Panjim-Goa.


Sir,

Subject: A riposte to the  editorial article captioned 'DEMOCRACY AS AN 
ILLUSION: The GOA Experience' - The Odyssey's


While congratulating you for this piece of 'excellent writing', let me, the 
second person named by you in the write-up say that, to the best of my 
belief, I consider: (1) 'Our Representative form of Democracy ENDS the day 
our ELECTION RESULTS are declared;  (2) That I have always believed that it 
is a SYSTEM (of governance) that must be supported and not INDIVIDUALS. That 
individuals contesting assembly elections as Independents must be shunned 
since they are bereft of any ideology but are only movers and shakers and 
political commission brokers.


You will agree with me that there is a resonating cord to be found in what I 
have said above and the gist of your entire article. Now, to get back to the 
other specifics:


The Congress, the BJP, the NCP et al have failed because the SYSTEM is not 
to be found anywhere but only the individuals. And without the SYSTEM in 
place, the individual will perform in the manner that our Goan political 
history has shown since 1961. Can we blame these individual? I say 'NO'. 
Mainly because an individual left to his own preferences, will want to sway 
like the 'air sock' at the mercy of the winds blowing his/her way, the winds 
loaded with monetary incentives. The Individual could have been a 'saint' 
for all that matters. But even saints do have their price, more so, in the 
absence of a SYSTEM that must regulate his/her  actions. A fine example 
could be found in the history of 'Jesus Christ' and world He built through 
his disciples. If He had not gone by the SYSTEM - [offer the other cheek... 
etc], the world would have as many streams of SYSTEMS as there were 
disciples. Even 'Judas' who defied the SYSTEM set by JC ultimately complied 
by hanging himself by way of repentance.


You have named Matanhy and James Fernandes of 'Goemche Niz Mogi' besides me 
in your most appreciated article. Matanhy has been in the activism world for 
Goa since a very long time  having  built-up his credibility and integrity 
over the long run of years. And people expected him to prove himself the 
ultimate man on the real political fighting turf, the savior of Goan Causes, 
when they got him elected to the Cortalim Constituency. But then, we who 
have been around and who have been watching the Goan political scene 
carefully and evaluating it as the events went by, did not give him 10 out 
of 10 to keep himself on the track that he had followed. Reason being that 
he had, unseen to him, moved off the original track he has always walked on 
... the Ideology set-out by GOMANT LOK POKH ... to walk on the unholy track 
set by the UGDP its founder having been the late  Monte Xavier Furtado 
amongst others. Today, Matanhy is struggling to gain the ground lost by his 
voluntary inaction as the Minister in the BJP government where he, instead 
of being his real attacking ferocious 'fighter dog' turned himself into the 
'ear licking poodle'. This cost him his credibility as well a place in Goa's 
history, inspite of his many fights for Goa. Hopefully, people of Goa will 
forgive him his little peccadilloes and elevate him to his previous selfless 
glory.


Coming to James Fernandes and his brand of Goemche Niz Mogi, I have nothing 
against him and his ideological supporters. It is only that he has no roots. 
And roots do not come easy. I have always wished him well and I will always 
wish him well in the fight to SAVE GOA.


And I must say that I was totally taken aback by a massive surprise to find 
my name qualified to be printed at all in your good Navhind Times, 
especially in your own write-up. I was not around for many years when you 
came to Goa (circa 1992-1993?) as I was sailing the high seas to be actively 
involved with Goa and Goans. But the first time you heard of me was during 
the 'Meta Strips' imbroglio, sometime in 1999 or thereafter. But then, the 
assessment that you have made of my brand of activism (which I have followed 
even during my sailing days) is found wanting. For one thing, I certainly do 
not want to make a huge forest out of Goa  wanting people to survive on the 
fruits of the forest alone. I have a certain vision of my own, the vision 
which I have, on many an occasions,  prevailed upon you to have a look-see. 
Certainly, I have not expected you to be dazzled with that vision, but then, 
if you did have a clue, you would have found it fit not to include my name 
as one of the promoters of a 'FOREST-GOA'


But then,  you must not misunderstand me. It is just as well that you have 
identified my name, because,  you have given me the opportunity to showcase 

[Goanet] Portuguese Consortium To Bid for Indian Goa Airport

2008-07-08 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Portuguese News Digest.  8 July 2008.

A consortium formed by several Portuguese companies will bid in a tender for
the construction of the new airport in Goa, India.

The consortium includes builders Edifer and Soares da Costa, airport
operator ANA - Aeroportos de Portugal, private equity firm Iberpartners,
Parque Expo and Banco Efisa.

The investment value of the project for Goa's new airport in western India
is calculated at $400 mln (255 mln euro). The Mopa airport, which will be
the state's first international airport, will be located in Mopa plateau.

It will be one of the several projects that India's Government plans to
develop as public-private partnerships. Its construction will expectedly
take some five years.

India is an emerging market with a great growth potential, a source by
Portugal's Foreign Ministry said. The country registered an annual rise in
its gross domestic product (GDP) of 9.0 pct for 2007, the same source added.
Thus, it is normal, part of this value to be invested in infrastructure
development, the source noted.

Portugal's Foreign Minister, Luis Amado, together with 10 Portuguese
enterprises, went on an official three-day visit to India, started on July
6. The companies are from various sectors -- banking, airport, footwear and
civil construction. The visit is aimed at promoting the bilateral
investments of the two countries, as well as at boosting the trade exchange
between them.

For the original text, 346 words, in Portuguese, see: 
http://diarioeconomico.sapo.pt/edicion/diarioeconomico/edicion_impresa/empre
sas/pt/desarrollo/1143486.html

If you have a problem with the link do to  http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ -
Newsletter of 8 July 2008.



[Goanet] NAZI-GATE -- THE GOAN JOURNO PRICKS

2008-07-08 Thread Pen Pricks
 NAZI-GATE -- THE GOAN JOURNO PRICKS

Herald -- The Humble Pricks
http://bp1.blogger.com/_RbiPbQTar_Y/SHNarsjmbQI/Ans/mX2tZKnqPso/s1600-h/.jpg3
pricks out of 10
It was Herald which caught the bait hoot, line and s't'inker. They put this
story on the front page, with a nice read duo-decked header and they put old
gramps Bach pic on it… Was he grinning... hehe
And we were kicked.
That's the paper we subscribe to at home.
But one thing you've got to give these guys. These guys did not stray out of
line. They behaved as admirably as a conservative Laxmibai Rudranath Tokre
would when faced with an opportunity for promiscuity.
But frankly we did not really expect them to run the story.
Reason… Editor Ashwin Tombat.

for more read
http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2008/07/nazi-gate-goan-journo-pricks.html


[Goanet] Press Note: Public Screenings of 'Naxal' cds

2008-07-08 Thread sebastian Rodrigues


Gawada, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Federation (GAKUVED) will organise public 
screening of documentary cds dubbed as 'Naxal' by the Leader of the opposition 
on June 19 2008 at the Public Hearing of the House Committee of Home Ministry.  
The CDs are a adivasi rights campaigning in favour of land rights againt 
invasion of the mining companies in Jharkhand. They are produced by a group 
called BIRSA - Binbrai Institute of Research Study and Action based in Ranchi, 
Jharkahnd.
 
The screening is for Press, Police and members of Public.
 
The screening is going to be on Thursday, 10th July at 4.00pm at Art Gallery of 
Menezes Braganza Hall, Panjim, Goa.
 
 
 
Yours Sincerely,
 
Sd/-
 
(Durgadas Gaonkar)
President,
Gawada, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Federation (GAKUVED)

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Re: [Goanet] Goan Catholics and Oil at 200/bbl

2008-07-08 Thread Roland Francis
Dear Selma-bai,

If Goa was a mess in 2006, as I wrote in my personal ramblings, then
it would be a mess for both Hindus and Catholics. A 'secular' mess if
I may say so.

No purpose served by your post exhorting Catholics to leave Goa. Not
that any Catholics would take your heed and leave Indian shores
because you told them to.

The Hindus who have emigrated to the west far outnumber the Christians
who have done so. I reluctantly say that because Indians are Indians -
they should not be counted as Christians, Hindus or Muslims.

Bad enough the ignorant western term Hindu India.

Roland.
+1 416.453.3371

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shee shee shee, kitem re Roland-bab, memory also fading? :-)

 Remember this?

 http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2006-November/authorpost_id=050972


[Goanet] Pandora's last box

2008-07-08 Thread Carvalho

A battered woman stays on with her husband because of the shame of having 
failed and the hope that things will change. We are now in a battered wife 
relationship with India. We bear the unbearable shame of knowing that 
collectively as a society we have failed and yet as human beings, we cling to 
the hope that things will change. Hope was after all the last box Pandora 
opened.

But even hope must be occasionally ameliorated, assuaged and given wings to 
fly. We belong to a country that refuses to learn the lessons of history. We 
held our breath after the Masjid Bahri mosque, we held our breath again after 
the Gujarat riots. Hoping against hope that such atrocities would not be 
repeated in our lifetime. Yet, they have only gained in momentum. Edna 
Fernandes writes, in her book Holy Warriors, that most of those who court the 
Hindutva ideology are young men. They are not the same men nursing the 
bitterness and pain of Partition. This is a new generation of Hindu Raj 
ideologues. Twenty years of prosperity has not been successful in developing a 
social conscience. Neither has this prosperity percolated to the ghettoized 
Muslim, which makes them feel more alienated. They, in turn, cling to archaic 
paradigms that don’t serve them well in a modern, secular world. 

India has shown no resolve whatsoever to deal with the contentious issue of 
Kashmir, an albatross hanging around our necks. Nor has she shown any will to 
tackle the corruption that bottle-necks and strangulates our governments into 
non-governance. India has become a country that robs her citizens of every 
ounce of their dignity and worth and gives little in return. The only reason, 
we still cling to her and owe it allegiance is because we haven’t yet stopped 
hoping nor have we stopped calling her “amma”.

selma







[Goanet] A survey... and bridges with Africa

2008-07-08 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
DPSE SEEKS CO-OPERATION FORM PUBLIC

Panaji, July 8, 2008

The Directorate of Planning, Statistics and Evaluation will be
conducting a House to House Survey on Domestic Tourism, Housing
Condition and Particular of Slums, as a part of the National Survey
being conducted by the National Sample Survey Unit, Government of
India.  The field investigators i.e. Specially trained employees of
the Directorate of Planning, Statistics and Evaluation, will be
visiting houses in rural and urban areas of Goa, during July 21, 2008
to June 30, 2009.

The Directorate of Planning, Statistics and Evaluation has been
declared as the Nodal Agency in the matters of collection of data in
the field.  The members of General Public is hereby urged to extend
their full co-operation, as the correct responses from them can only
make the survey a success.

Information collected in the course of survey will be kept strictly
confidential for statistical purpose only.

DI/NB/NUD/LS/JA/LN/2008/

BUILDING BRIDGES WITH AFRICA CONFERENCE ON JULY 12

Panaji, July 8, 2008

A Conference on Building Bridges with Africa will be held at Hotel
Cidade de Goa on Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 10.00a.m. organized by the
Office of the Commissioner for NRI Affairs and is being held in the
backup of the recent visit of Shri Eduardo Faleiro to Mozambique and
Kenya.  Furthermore, the first India Africa Summit was held last April
in New Delhi where Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh declared that
India intends to be a partner in Africa's resurgence and announced a
comprehensive package of economic co-operation.  The Conference will
discuss the role of people of Goan origin and other Indians in Africa
in promoting such co-operation.

The Conference will be inaugurated by the Chief Minister,Shri Digambar
Kamat and Commissioner for NRI Affairs, Shri Eduardo Faleiro will
preside.   Those who will address the Conference include Chief
Secretary,  Shri J. P. Singh, Secretary in the Ministry of External
Affairs, Nalin Surie and Ambassadors and High Commissioners from
African countries.  Invitation cards are available at the Office of
the Commissioner for NRI Affairs at the Secretariat, Porvorim, at
Clube Vasco da Gama and at Hotel Cidade de Goa, Panaji.


[Goanet] BBC E-mail: 7/7 family bring eye-care hope

2008-07-08 Thread RUBY GOES
RUBY GOES saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.

** Message **
An uplifting story.
Thanks.
rubyges

** 7/7 family bring eye-care hope **
Three years since losing her sister Miriam in the 7 July attacks, Esther Hyman 
travelled to India for the inauguration of a children's eye care centre in 
Miriam's name.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/7492848.stm 


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[Goanet] About Sujay Gupta

2008-07-08 Thread Yogesh Desai
Hi!

I thought of sharing more info on Sujay Gupta which I found on Net.
Reading all this I fell his article on 'Green movement has shades of black'
has enough credibility


Yogesh

About Sujay Gupta
Sujay Gupta is the editor of Goa. Unltd. and a multi-faceted personality.
Sujay Gupta has been a journalist for 21 years. Apart from reporting the
political issues he has passionately written and planned campaigns on many
urban, social and environmental issues.
Sujay has recently moved back to Goa where he writes for several
publications in and is a media consultant as well and hopes to find NIRVANA.
He of course thinks 'Nirvana' could be the brand of his own feni which he
dreams of launching!
Detailed Bio:
Sujay Gupta has been a journalist for 21 years. Apart from reporting the
political issues he has passionately written and planned campaigns on many
urban, social and environmental issues.
Television:
For the last 1.5 years he has been the Bureau Chief, the functional Head of
News Operations, Western India with NDTV. Most recently, he was one of the
first journalists to report Scarlett Keeling's murder in media. With NDTV he
also worked on a much applauded series of stories on the popular WITNESS
programme anchored by Sreenivasan Jain on the rampant rash of construction
projects in Goa and how the new regional development plan for Goa that was
completely unsustainable. This campaign led to scrapping of the proposed
regional development plan. The government was forced to constitute another
special task force which included peoples representatives to formulate a new
regional plan, a first in the history of independent India.
Newspaper:
Prior to working with NDTV, he has been the deputy editor (Times of India),
Editor Asian Age, Special Correspondent and Bureau Chief The Telegraph,
Publisher and Editor (Gomantak Times) and Senior correspondent of The
Statesman in the following locations for almost 16 years:
. Times of India, North-East region and Mumbai: Political and social issues.
He had covered insurgency in the North-East region of India extensively. 
. Asian Age, Mumbai: Infrastructure and urban issues. Scrutinized projects
through investigation 
. The Telegraph: Uttar Pradesh: Political and social movements. He worked
closely with NGOs on water conservation and anti-Tehri dam in Uttarakhand 
. The Statesman, Madhya Pradesh (MP) and Kashmir: In Kashmir, he reported
for a year and looked at terrorism from a human angle. In MP, he was
involved with Narmada Bachao Andolan campaign for 2.5 years 
. Gomantak Times, Goa: Worked with local communities across Goa for 2 years
on following issues: water, roads, environment, child rights and trafficking

Essay
. Money Tames Cricket by Soumitra Bose and Sujay Gupta. Published in
Cricketing Cultures in Conflict, Routledge, UK 
Magazine
. Calcutta Skyline: Sujay was a part of the core team that launched
Calcutta's first city magazine at the age of sixteen 
Education
. University of Westminster, London: Media Studies and Mass Communications 
. St. Xavier's College, Kolkata: Bachelor of Arts in English. 





[Goanet] The false premise of Goan Catholic hope

2008-07-08 Thread Carvalho

One of the letters noted that we, Goan Catholics should show solidarity with 
our Hindu brethren and show these outsiders a lesson. This is the false 
premise of Goan Catholic hope. Hate has no colour or creed. Hate is simply hate.

Besides I am tired of hearing this bit about teaching other people lessons, 
of teaching Muslims lessons, of teaching ghantis lessons, of teaching non-Goans 
lessons. I want to learn some lessons. I am not too old to learn lessons in 
life. Lessons of compassion, acceptance and tolerance. I want to learn that 
other humans are beings with mothers and daughters just as myself. That they 
merit our empathy and help not our disdain.

selma



  


[Goanet] Correction: Press Note: Public Screenings of Jharkhand Adivasi Rights CDs

2008-07-08 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

Gawada, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Federation (GAKUVED) will organise a public 
screening of documentary cds on Thursday, 10th July at 4.00 pm at Art Gallery 
of Menezes Braganza Hall, Panjim, Goa.

The documentary CDs were dubbed as 'Naxal' by the Leader of the opposition on 
June 19, 2008 at the Public Hearing of the House Committee of Home Ministry.

The CDs are a adivasi rights campaign in favour of land rights against invasion 
of the mining companies in Jharkhand. They are produced by a group called BIRSA 
- Binbrai Institute of Research Study and Action based in Ranchi, Jharkahnd.

The screening is for Press, Police and members of Public.



Yours Sincerely,

Sd/-
(Durgadas Gaonkar)
President,
Gawada, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Federation (GAKUVED)

Phone: 09923336347
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[Goanet] Tarcar Mining: Rivona Sarpanch Gheraoed

2008-07-08 Thread sebastian Rodrigues


Due to unbearable situation created in Colamb due to transportation of Iron Ore 
truck by Tarcar mine operating in Sulcorna village agitated Colamb villagers 
gheraoed Village sarpanch Manshi Naik at the Panchayat office in Rivona. About 
25 villagers mostly women had gone to complain to the Panchayat authorities 
about pathetic road conditions created due to operation of mining trucks from 
Tarcar mines in nearby Sulcorna village.

Sulcorna village in 100% under various mining leases during Portuguese period. 
Former Congress - (I) candidate for Panjim constituency associated with Youth 
Congress - Dinar Tarcar has been involved in predatory form of iron ore mining 
in Sulcorna. Besides ruining Sulcorna, its transportation is ruining public 
roads of Colamb and Rivona as well. Colamb villagers today expressed their 
displeasure to the village authorities.

Gherao was resorted to, according to eye witness Motesh Antao, when Sarpanch 
Ms. Manshi Naik behaved in high handed manner and refused to listen to the 
grievances of the villagers present at the Panchayat office. Instead of 
listening to the villagers she tried to shut voices of the villagers by 
ordering them to shut up.

Villagers then accused Sarpanch of being on the pay roll of the mining 
companies demanded her resignation. It is only after the verbal duel with the 
villagers that Sarpanch reluctantly agreed to write letter to the concerned 
authorities regarding the destruction of roads in Colamb village by Tarcar 
mining transportation from nearby Sulcorna village.

It is indeed tragedy of Goa that we have people like Manshi Naik as Sarpanches 
in Goa; earlier they are overthrown by People Power better it is for Goa's 
future, or we are all destined to be stiffled by mining companies.


Sebastian Rodrigues 


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Re: [Goanet] Goan Inquisition

2008-07-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
Richard Zimler has issued a strong rebuttal on Goa Research Net to the vacuous 
innuendo and prejudiced stereotyping that he has had to endure, both publicly 
and privately, from his detractors, on the basis of a fictional novel that none 
of them seems to have bothered to read.

In addition to cringing from Gilbert's rehashing below of his longstanding 
baseless hypothesis that Goan inquisition was a law enforcement exercise 
against criminals, I noted that he was accusing Zimler of making a claim that 
the latter had never made, namely that the inquisition was directed at 
non-converted Hindus. Zimler had clearly stated that its targets were the New 
Christians - converted Jews, Muslims and Hindus - with the intent to deter them 
from lapsing into their old ways.

Cheers,

Santosh


Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  We are not deniers of the Goa Inquisition,
 as Richard Zimler and few
  others claim!
 
  It is well established by British historians, who were
 based in India
  around the time of the  Inquisition, and others, that
 the main targets of
  the Goa Inquisition were Catholic Europeans and
 Catholic natives.  Richard's
  twist (sensationalizing) to make everything about Goa
 Inquisition what it
  ain't, is not going to succeed, despite his
 sophisticated English, many
  books and attempts to present himself as a historian.
 


[Goanet] I eat you pay

2008-07-08 Thread Samir Kelekar
To Goanet -

In today's Herald, Lionel Messias has published his
7th installment of Living To Eat.  The government's
food bill from April 2004 to 2007: Rs 1,34,16,340.
It includes meals at most of the high end watering
holes in the state.

This is a good candidate for a PIL.  Any takers?  

Warm regards,


r

What is the outcome of the PIL going to be ? What is the law
that applies here?

And btw, we, Nitoll Jinn Trust, had filed a PIL in March 2007
against the Infotech Corporation of Goa in the Panjim High Court.
It is still pending admission 16 months from the time of filing.

Any definitive statements on how long does it take a PIL to get
results ?

regards,
Samir






  


[Goanet] Toronto Goan convention

2008-07-08 Thread George Pinto
Folks,

Winter like weather Down Under (Australia) but glorious sunshine in Toronto now 
and expected through the convention. It may be too late to do a charter Goan 
flight from Melbourne/Sydney to the convention but not too late to buy a 
discounted air ticket and make it to the Toronto Goan convention from July 
23-27. Serious topics and fun events. You can choose what you want to attend 
and pay accordingly.

Please sign up for the convention now, see http://www.2008goanconvention.com/. 
Please pass this message on to your friends and family.
 
Regards,
George


[Goanet] Why do some find it necessary to vomit in public?

2008-07-08 Thread Sandeep Heble
Mario Goveia writes: By its history and precedent, Goanet has been an
open public forum for issues of interest to Goans, mostly Goa-centric,
but with numerous exceptions, as long as these avoided personal abuse
and the thoughts were expressed with reasonable civility.  The beauty
of an open forum is that members should be able to express themselves
whithout worrying about the umbrage of others - who can respond and
take issue if they choose to.

I agree with the postures Mario has taken on this issue.

I do not read all the posts on Goanet. I read only the posts that
interest me. I read a few lines from Selma's so called vomiting post
and simply flipped to the next one on my digest.

If somebody tries to offer me a glass of whisky and I don't drink it,
I don't end up getting intoxicated. Nobody can intoxicate me without
my permission. If Jose and Cecil are upset with Selma's posts, it is
simply because they have deliberately chosen to be upset. It's as
simple as that.

On a related note, I found Sooraj Barjatya's movie Hum Aapke Hai
Kaun plain silly and nothing but an extended version of Chayageet.
However, there were others who disagreed with my taste and the movie
went on to become an all-time Bollywood grosser. In that sense,
Selma's post did not interest me but I wouldn't let it bother me
either. Who knows, there may be people out there on Goanet who may
actually like whisky!

On the other hand, if Jose and Cecil keep talking about Selma's post,
I might eventually end up hunting out the same from the archives and
reading it even thought it was so very un-interesting in the first
place! :-)

Cheers,
Sandeep


[Goanet] Portuguese Consortium To Bid for Indian Goa Airport

2008-07-08 Thread Philip Thomas
The investment value of the project for Goa's new airport in western
Indiais calculated at $400 mln (255 mln euro). The Mopa airport, which will
bethe state's first international airport, will be located in Mopa plateau.

TOI had recently placed the investment in Mopa airport at either $205
million or $250 million (for typographical reasons). Now we are hearing that
it will be $400 million which is of the order of Rs 1700 crores, nearly the
same as the new airport in Bangalore. With this kind of investment what are
the chances that Dabolim airport will be able to co-exist with it as
proposed by the Goa government. The civil enclave will be forced to close to
ensure Mopa's viability. And we will have the same surface transport
connectivity and passenger cost problems as Bangalore and Hyderabad are
having currently. Let's hope Goa does not get bamboozled into going for such
unreal projects at Mopa. It will surely be a miracle if better sense
prevails. But who is bothered?



[Goanet] Are You from The Gulf

2008-07-08 Thread [Edu's World]
Once a man went to a Veterinary Doctor and said:

Doctor I have come on vacation for a month so that I can get
myself treated fully within this period.

Doctor: I think you should go to the Doctor opposite to my
clinic, see that board.

Man: No, Doctor, I have come to you only

Doctor: But, gentleman I am a Veterinary Doctor. I am an
animal specialist. I do not treat human beings.

Man: I know, Doctor very well and that is why I have come to
you only...

Doctor: I can not, because you speak like me, think like me, talk
like me which means you are a human being and not an animal.
Man: I know I am a human but listen to my complaints first:

Doctor: OK. Tell me.

Man:
I sleep like a dog thinking about my work load whole night.
I get up in the morning like a horse
I go to work running like a deer
I work all the day like a donkey
I run around for 11 months like a bull without any holiday.
I wag my tail in front of all my bosses
I play with my children like a monkey if I get time.

Doctor: are you FROM GULF?

Man: Yes

Doctor: Instead of telling this long history you should have told
me in the beginning itself that you are FROM GULF. Come man, no one
can treat you better than me.

(Pass this message to all your friends back home especialy your neighbours 
relatives who think life in the gulf is full of luxuries. Let them know the
real life.)


-- 
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edu

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Re: [Goanet] Andhra Chief Minister Sanctions Separate Department For Christian Minorities

2008-07-08 Thread Sachin Phadte

Gabe Menezes asks me the following question: In which State other than Kashmir 
are Hindus a minority? Please let us know, I shall try and see what I can do, 
in terms of reciprocity.

The states are Nagaland, Mizoram and Manipur. I now await to know what Gabe 
will do.

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Re: [Goanet] Why do some find it necessary to vomit in public?

2008-07-08 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
2008/7/8 Sandeep Heble [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 my permission. If Jose and Cecil are upset with Selma's posts, it is
 simply because they have deliberately chosen to be upset. It's as
 simple as that.

Frankly, if you ask me, it looks as if Jose is just concerned that
John Monteiro might reveal more about the true nature of pre-1961
Portuguese colonialism in Goa. (While we have many a problem post-1961
too, there are a handful who prefer to believe it was all sugar and
spice before then.)

And Cecil has other scores to settle with Selma ...

I found both John's and Selma's insights interesting. It's useful to
hear personalised accounts. While episodic in nature and possibly
non-representative sometimes, often these give us a better insight
into how things worked. In a bettter way than, say, statistics or
official histories.

Am not sure that we can, or need to think, in terms of applying the
standards of medical confidentiality to a mailing list.

Often we take very ideological positions over what are actually mere
personality clashes, or a way of justifying a position we prefer to
believe.

Wonder if anyone else agrees with my disgnosis :-) FN


[Goanet] Delhi Accommodation - a query

2008-07-08 Thread JoeGoaUk
Delhi Accommodation

Does any body knows any accommodation with sort of Goan environment like food 
etc ?

It should not be expensive too, it's a sponsored trip.

Trying with New Goa Niwas/Bhavan in Delhi but just in case it is full etc. 

Party of 4 or 5 Goans/males in their 20's  for 3 nites in this month

Any Help would be appreciated,

Also, any tips on how to or cheaper way to reach  Agra- Taj Mahal by 
train/Coach/tours etc

1 day Reserved for Taj
1 day for Delhi Sight seeing

Thanks for your help

   
  


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[Goanet] Oil at 200/bbl - response to Chris and Roland

2008-07-08 Thread Marlon Menezes
--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 An otherwise well-reasoned response but for the
 unnecessary gratuitous
 personal invective.
--
Chris, remember, it is you who first used the word
whako.
 
  The U.S. (and other nations) needs relief in oil
 prices NOW - not in the
 distant future through utopian fantasies such as
 alternate energy, renewable
 energy and other such esoteric schemes.  Ethanol is
--
Any attempts to initiate drilling now will not deliver
results in another 10 years. Acting in panic mode to
address a problem that was 10-20 years in the making
will do nobody any good. The US economy is already
responding with efficiency gains. In any case, the
fundamental issue is not high oil prices, but a
damaged financial system. Just do the numbers. The
average fuel bill per family has increased from around
$1500 per year to approx $3000 per year. Now consider
the impact of asset deflation from the credit crisis.
This loss in wealth is in the 10's of thousands of
dollars per family.


--- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This reasoning is surpassed in illogic by Marlon who
 has concluded
 that the US Govt (he means the feds of course) must
 spend less on the
 already barest of social services that it provides
 it's citizens,
 among other things.
--
Perhaps Roland loves dumping his money into taxes to
support services he will never get. If he thinks this
is logical, it is his choice.

 1. The Alberta Oil Sands extraction is only
 profitable at oil prices
 being in the 80 to 100 dollar range. (Someone please
 tell him that
 even a new Sands operation can produce oil at most
 at 32/bbl while an
 existing one does so at 22/bbl).
--
I stand corrected- my figures were wrong-  the figure
is around $40. However my main point is the limited
scalability of producing oil from these sources.
Current production is around 1.2 million b/d and is
supposed to scale up to 3m b/d by 2020 - assuming the
high prices remain in play. Hence, even in the most
ideal situation, one is looking at an increase of
around 150K b/d. This is marginal.
 
 2. Left to itself, Silicon Valley can replace much
 of the oil the US
 needs (tell Bill Gates to come back to active
 management.)
--
As audacious as it sounds, yes, that is the intent of
many entreprenuers in the valley. I suggest Roland
read up on cellusoic ethanol, which is intended to
replace fossil fuels. Inspite of the rough credit
market, private equity investments in clean energy
continue unabated - up over 50% from last year.
Furthermore, this does not include investments made by
existing publically traded companies in clean tech

 
 Marlon's
 hypotheses sounds like the Big Bad US Govt
 accusations spouted by all
 those nuts before they barricade themselves in
 Quonset huts on big
 Texas ranches and get massacred in shootouts with
 the FBI.
-- 
This is a real head scratcher. I believe Roland is
alluding to the religious group known as the Branch
Davidians who fought the FBI to death in 1993 in Waco,
Tx. I dont understand how I could be linked to a group
that was engaged in horrific child abuse. 

One may be surprised to know that there are millions
in America who share my view. In fact until very
recently, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul
was more successful in his fundraising efforts than
all of his established rivals. There is real
discontent about an overpowering Federal government in
America.

Marlon


[Goanet] CONDOLENCES

2008-07-08 Thread CAJETAN DE
We deeply mourn the sad demise of OLENCIO FERNANDES, brother of our dear friend 
 Francis (Chequinho) Fernandes (President of United Club of Utorda-Kuwait). 
 
We convey our heartfelt sympathies to the bereaved family.
 
The managing Committee  Members of
United Friends Club (UFC)Kuwait.





[Goanet] Goa news for July 9, 2008

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa gets new Governor - Navhind Times
[3 hours ago]  ... Mr SC Jamir was on Tuesday transferred as
the Governor of Maharashtra while Manipur Governor, Mr SS Sidhu
has been transferred to Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070922cid=1226461129ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNFNaQpsXsXY1tgSE5_HtHewbh006w

*** Matka kings murder: Cops track down son in Goa, arrest him
- Expressindia.com
[3 hours ago]  Mumbai, July 8 Officers of the Crime Branch
arrested Hitesh Bhagat, the son of #152;matka king Suresh
Bhagat and Jaya Bhagat, on Tuesday from Goa where he had ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Matka-kings-murder-Cops-track-down-son-in-Goa-arrest-him/333124/cid=1226523925ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNGNAkLkRG8vg32vamVO49yaESU6rg

*** Tata Motors ups stake in Goa supplier - Economic Times
[Jul 6, 2008]  MUMBAI: Tata Motors has slowly inched up its
holding in Automobile Corporation of Goa(ACG) #148; a little
known Goa-based firm, which is one of the major ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Stocks_in_News/Tata_Motors_ups_stake_in_Goa_supplier/articleshow/3203865.cmscid=0ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNHTL5c4ox9-9QoktEHyAVo410PCIQ

*** Democracy as an Illusion: The Goa Experience - Navhind
Times
[Jul 7, 2008]  by ARUN SINHA GOA is witnessing popular protests
against excesses of development in many villages. However, these
protests are like wild flowers blossoming ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070815cid=0ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNG792viFBiilAlIyLL3uXuZVEAi9w

*** Russia warns of Goa alarm - Times of India
[Jul 6, 2008]  It the letter, the Russian consulate has once
again raised concerns over the security situation in Goa that
may put in peril the safety and health of ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Russia_warns_of_Goa_alarm/articleshow/3204591.cmscid=0ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNHbDteMCzMgWG645HnEp-71LxaHTA

*** Goa\'s Lithuanians fav holiday spot - Economic Times
[Jul 6, 2008]  VILNIUS: Suddenly a lot of people from this tiny
Baltic state of Lithuania wantto visit India, the prime
attraction for them being Goa, with its sun kissed ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/Goas_Lithuanians_fav_holiday_spot/articleshow/3204287.cmscid=1226251585ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNEodnXo1AEyCrx0gnDAzCTa7taExA

*** Goa becomes key medical tourism destination - Treatment
Abroad - Medical Tourism News
Medical Tourism News, UK - 13 hours agoThe state of Goa in
India is becoming a major medical tourism destination, both
among foreign patients and Bollywood hopefuls who want to keep
their surgery ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.treatmentabroad.net/medical-tourism/news/july-2008/goa-becomes-key-medical-tourism-destination901/cid=0ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNFBahWa-p_Wdet3fX8SP1QUuC79WA

*** Football-mad Goa goes batty over a new cricketing hero -
Sportingo
[7 hours ago]  by armstrong vas on 08 July 2008 Ralph Menezes
is four years old and he hails from the western state of Goa.
His father has been an average volleyball ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.sportingo.com/cricket/a9543_footballmad-goa-goes-batty-over-new-cricketing-herocid=1226543503ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNEcbXmOvlLH2wws9qLOH-DdkTsrRA

*** Lisbon-Goa Charters to start soon - Navhind Times
[3 hours ago]  Mr Amado, presently on a visit to Goa, speaking
to #152;The Navhind Times on Tuesday evening said that a hotel
belonging to the Turismo de Portugal as well as ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070916cid=0ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNFVvmmXdSfmWMbeCCrmM5AvWvRIbQ

*** Shilpa returns to Goa for The Man - Oneindia
[15 hours ago]  So Shilpa discovered this week when within 28
hours she flew from Goa to London and back again in Goa after
collecting a distinguished award. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2008/shilpa-the-man-080708.htmlcid=1226321190ei=gfhzSP_JEYKmgwOg5ZHVDgusg=AFQjCNG3J_Txfo_FQNYcXVVLJA2QzQW5yA


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Video: Contacto Goa: The Goan Identity

2008-07-08 Thread Eddie Fernandes
8 Jul. RTP. The 24 June 2008 episode of the Portuguese broadcaster, RTP,
dealt with Goan Identity.  What is it? Why is it under the threat? Quote:
The Goan identity is under threat from the rest of the country 

The  dialogue is Portuguese and English, with subtitles. To read the
subtitles you will have to increase the image size to full screen - place
mouse pointer on image, right click, zoom, full screen. 

To view the programme,  27mins 49secs. go to
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/index.php?tvprog=20155




[Goanet] Goa gets new Governor (NT)

2008-07-08 Thread Philip Thomas
In a reshuffle of heads of Raj Bhavans in three states, Mr S C Jamir was on
Tuesday transferred as the Governor of Maharashtra while Manipur Governor,
Mr S S Sidhu has been transferred to Goa...Mr Sidhu, 79, a former secretary
general of International Civil Aviation Organisation was also holding the
additional charge of Meghalaya till July 1. Mr Sidhu was an IAS officer of
1952 batch.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070922
Shivinder Singh Sidhu (India) Seventh ICAO Secretary General Term of
Office: 1988-1991 Shivinder Singh Sidhu was born on 13 October 1929. He
holds advanced degrees in Economics and Public Administration and a
Doctorate of Philosophy. Dr. Sidhu held a number of senior posts and
represented his Government at numerous bilateral and inter-governmental
negotiations in various fields. He was also the Chief Delegate of the Indian
delegation to a number of international conferences and was elected
President of the Twenty-sixth Session of the ICAO Assembly in 1986. While he
was Director of India's Civil Aviation Administration (February 1985 to
October 1987), he also served as Chairman of Air India and Indian Airlines
and as Secretary to the Government in the Ministry of Civil Aviation. Dr.
Sidhu was appointed Secretary General of the Organization on 1 August 1988
and served for a period of three years.
http://www.icao.int/icao/en/biog/sidhu.htm




[Goanet] Anti-Goan Identity Movement

2008-07-08 Thread Arwin Mesquita
Dear Mario,



Ref. your post below; you are absolutely right. Thanks from bringing me to
my senses. What was I thinking; all this nonsense about Preserving Goan
Identity.



The only dilemma I face is what do I answer people when they normally say to
me (A) Goa  Goans are significantly different from rest of India one
example is Goa stands out for Tourism exceptionally vs. other states (B)
What do I call myself now that there is no such thing as Goan Identity. My
answers would most probably be (A) Its all mythical and there is no basis
and (B) I now call myself a Jolly Indian. Any suggestions from you are
welcome.



Thank God we are now, not like those fools who are ignorantly
working/supporting Goa's Mythical Identity i.e.

(A) Those thinking Goans are different from the Bengalis, Keralites, Tamils,
Gujaratis, Europeans, Americans etc. Surely we are all similar in Identity!!

(B) Fought in the 60's to keep Goa separate. What were they thinking? We
don't have an identity and should have been merged with
Karnataka/Maharashtra.

(C) Fought in the 80's for Konkani, including those who lost their lives. We
should probably change it now to Hindi, Kannada, Punjabi etc

(D) Despite having hectic schedules are fighting against mega-projects,
SEZ's etc We should allow these  change the demographics once and for all.

(E) Non Resident Goans who despite being faraway and working for the
Mythical Goan Identity e.g. The Goan Convention in Toronto with Goan
Identity as the main theme. Why are they wasting their valuable time?



We need to convert all these Goans into Anti-Goans  bury this Goan Identity
issue once and for all. Can we form an Anti-Goan Movement for the purpose?
On my August USA visit, can I meet yourself  all your
Anti-Goan colleagues to brainstorm what we can do for the latter? I have
some suggestions however for you  your colleagues to consider for this new
movement:

(A) Make Goa  fully cosmopolitan Indian State with Hindi as Language (or
better still a Globalised State); can be a good example for rest of India
(World)

(B) Encourage as many migrants as possible, give them voters rights, land
and if that is scarce I recommend we offer our properties  houses as well.

(C) Spread an awareness to convince Goans that it is no use holding on to
land and its better we sell Goa to the highest bidder and become vagabonds.

(D) Explain our side to these Foolish Goans that it's better to immigrate,
feel guilty about not doing anything for Goa  then Castigate those working
for Goa.

(F) Explain that we should have controls for decent living standards,
Language  Identity in our adopted countries, Goans in Goa are not entitled
to the same because they do not know the difference between a country 
state.



Kind Regards,

The New Anti-Goan.

Message: 10
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet]  Goan Identity is NOT Anti-Indian
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:08:45 +0400
From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is the need for Goa to preserve her Identity,
Anti-Indian?

Mario responds:

Memo to Arwin:

What Goan indentity are you takling about?

I thought Santosh had put a stake through the heart of
that old shibboleth.



[Goanet] Migrant Controls

2008-07-08 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 Margao clashes should be an eye-opener for Goans. Whilst we have on our
Main Goan Agenda, the SEZ's, Mining  Mega Projects; its high time that the
add the illegal migrants issue. Above all other arguments, surely we
appreciate that the Root cause is the illegal legalising of migrants in
Slums, Housing Boards etc for political vote banks; mainly by the Chief
Minister  his Comrades. Goans of all religions  castes, have always lived
in Harmony and these radical Demographic changes, blessed by corrupt
politicians, should be reversed. All these Slums should be cleared and the
Housing Board Policy should be completely revamped to benefit Goans only.
How many Goans today do not have housing; which instead is given to
outsiders? Why is the Congress government supporting the migrant thugs on
illegal land and vote bank leaders; instead of protecting those actually
needing protection?

Also what's the latest on the St Inez Slums, which was spared at the last
minute only because of missing file.  If the Opposition Leader is serious
about stopping vote banks, can he address this first in his own
constituency?

Arwin Mesquita,UAE.

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(1) http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
(2) http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/2008/06/




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(1) http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
(2) http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/2008/06/


Re: [Goanet] Goan Inquisition

2008-07-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/7/8 Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Richard Zimler has issued a strong rebuttal on Goa Research Net to the 
 vacuous innuendo and prejudiced stereotyping that he has had to endure, both 
 publicly and privately, from his detractors, on the basis of a fictional 
 novel that none of them seems to have bothered to read.

 In addition to cringing from Gilbert's rehashing below of his longstanding 
 baseless hypothesis that Goan inquisition was a law enforcement exercise 
 against criminals, I noted that he was accusing Zimler of making a claim that 
 the latter had never made, namely that the inquisition was directed at 
 non-converted Hindus. Zimler had clearly stated that its targets were the New 
 Christians - converted Jews, Muslims and Hindus - with the intent to deter 
 them from lapsing into their old ways.

 Cheers,

 Santosh


RESPONSE: Zimler's novels are fiction, with very little fact to back
them up; this being the case, I am left, scratching my head, as to why
we are giving such incredulous credence to such imaginings! Perhaps a
pig in a poke?
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


Re: [Goanet] Andhra Chief Minister Sanctions Separate Department For Christian Minorities

2008-07-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/7/8 Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Gabe Menezes asks me the following question: In which State other than 
 Kashmir are Hindus a minority? Please let us know, I shall try and see what I 
 can do, in terms of reciprocity.

 The states are Nagaland, Mizoram and Manipur. I now await to know what Gabe 
 will do.

 Sachin Phadte

RESPONSE: I shall do what ever it takes to make sure that the Hindu
majority in India is not disenfranchised in any State in the land.
After all Inidia is Hindustan, the minority had better not forget it!
First of all, I am going to support Selma Cardoso's proposal that
Catholic Goans, vamose from Goa - keep the coast clear for the Hindu
brethern. Then I am going to propose that the Hindus in Goa, decimate
the Muslims, total anhiliation is what I propose...now all jump up
clap your handsJai Hindi, Jai Hindustan, Jai Hindutva, Jai
RSS...the rest which are too much to even think about.

Truly you and your mate are such clever fellows! You are in the
majority and crying foul, stupdity begets stupidy...as in my post;
respectfully, I think you need to be checked out, the sooner the
better.

Please take a trip to Toronto, with their forthcoming event. Dr. Kevin
Saldanha will check you out - I shall pay the bill.

Front line is supposed to work!
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


[Goanet] No pay, no work at Sonsoddo site

2008-07-08 Thread Goanet News
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/No_pay_no_work_at_Sonsoddo_site/rssarticleshow/3208996.cms

No pay, no work at Sonsoddo site
8 Jul 2008, 0605 hrs IST,TNN

MARGAO: The revelation by the Margao civic body's chief officer Y B
Tavde that Hyquip Equipments has voiced its reluctance to go ahead
with the Sonsoddo project unless its Rs 76 lakh bill is settled,
prompted councillors to demand a clarification from the government
authorities over the matter.

The company had submitted a bill for Rs 76 lakhs towards segregation
of dry and wet waste for the last one and half year to the MMC. While
MMC has refused to foot the bill saying it falls under the purview of
the Goa State Urban Devlopment Agency's (GSUDA), the agency's member
secretary Daulat Hawladar, had refused to acknowledge the bill.

Now, the row over the bill is likely to be dragged to the chief
minister, Digambar Kamat and the urban development minister Joaquim
Alemao.

Holding GSUDA responsible for the Sonsoddo mess, Narayan Fondekar,
demanded that fines, if levied by the court in view of its order
issued recently, be recovered from GSUDA and Hyquip Equipments.

The council was not even taken into confidence when the MMC handed
over the Sonsoddo site to the GSUDA. The residents of Fatorda are
subjected to untold sufferings owing to the irresponsible attitude of
politicians, Fondekar said.

Earlier, councillor Ciarica Rodrigues voiced her support of Curtorim
MLA Alex Reginald Lourenco's call for an agitation over the failure of
the civic body in tackling the garbage problem.


Re: [Goanet] Riposte to Democracy as an Illusion: The Goa Experience - Kind attn. Mr. Arun Sinha

2008-07-08 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

I too, saw Sinha's shee-shee in yesterday's Navhind Times
and quickly sidestepped.  I consider the following an apposite 
riposte.

Dear Mr. Sinha,

Goans have nothing to learn from a despicable, fifth-rate 
bhailo schmuck on any matter pertaining to our homeland.
Now get lost.

Warm regards,


r



[Goanet] Goan Inquistion

2008-07-08 Thread Bernado Colaco
Not funny President Pandu. We are responding to the interview by the tailor. 
Has the  book  become fictional? 
BC


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Re: [Goanet] Pandora's last box

2008-07-08 Thread Alfred de Tavares

 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:02:38 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Pandora's last box   A battered 
 woman stays on with her husband because of the shame of having failed and the 
 hope that things will change. We are now in a battered wife relationship with 
 India. We bear the unbearable shame of knowing that collectively as a society 
 we have failed and yet as human beings, we cling to the hope that things will 
 change. Hope was after all the last box Pandora opened.  But even hope must 
 be occasionally ameliorated, assuaged and given wings to fly. We belong to a 
 country that refuses to learn the lessons of history. We held our breath 
 after the Masjid Bahri mosque, we held our breath again after the Gujarat 
 riots. Hoping against hope that such atrocities would not be repeated in our 
 lifetime. Yet, they have only gained in momentum. Edna Fernandes writes, in 
 her book Holy Warriors, that most of those who court the Hindutva ideology 
 are young men. They are not the same men nursing the bitterness and pain of 
 Partition. This is a new generation of Hindu Raj ideologues. Twenty years of 
 prosperity has not been successful in developing a social conscience. Neither 
 has this prosperity percolated to the ghettoized Muslim, which makes them 
 feel more alienated. They, in turn, cling to archaic paradigms that don’t 
 serve them well in a modern, secular world.   India has shown no resolve 
 whatsoever to deal with the contentious issue of Kashmir, an albatross 
 hanging around our necks. Nor has she shown any will to tackle the corruption 
 that bottle-necks and strangulates our governments into non-governance. India 
 has become a country that robs her citizens of every ounce of their dignity 
 and worth and gives little in return. The only reason, we still cling to her 
 and owe it allegiance is because we haven’t yet stopped hoping nor have we 
 stopped calling her “amma”.  selma Ene of end of times, young 
 Bess? Do you hear the apocayptian hoofs so banefully?
 
 if INDIA's albatross is sweet Kashmir, Goa's is the horrendous River 
Princess, the 
bastard, discarded orphan of MLA Anil Salgaokar.
 
He has neither self-dignity nor a fraction of it that his worthy father, VM, so 
well 
possessed  displayed.
 
That the manifestly emasculated government of blighted Goa so ditheringly 
wallows
in his wake is pukeable.
 
Alfred de Tavares
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Re: [Goanet] Why do some find it necessary to vomit in public?

2008-07-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/7/8 Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Frankly, if you ask me, it looks as if Jose is just concerned that
 John Monteiro might reveal more about the true nature of pre-1961
 Portuguese colonialism in Goa. (While we have many a problem post-1961
 too, there are a handful who prefer to believe it was all sugar and
 spice before then.)

 And Cecil has other scores to settle with Selma ...

RESPONSE: What Cecil loves the dame to kingdom come :-));
Monteiro, only knows the harsher aspects of his father's rule, the
pleasant memories are those nice Goans who accommodated him, wet pants
or not...no sweat, I too used to wet my pants - those bloody teachers
in 'baby class' who used to bring out a stick and whack helpless kids.
Mrs Caldeira R.I.P. St. Teresa's Nbi.
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


[Goanet] It's right time Mr. CM

2008-07-08 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
Few days after recent riot that took place in Margao Aam Admi Chief Minister
had publicly announced that his government will compensate for the damages
suffered by general public during the riot. 

Is it not the right time Mr. CM to hand over a cheque to Bashir Shaikh (a
principal suspects in sward case in Margao. He is still a suspect not proved
otherwise) for the damage he suffered during Margao riot? 

Mr. CM must hand over the cheque at a public function organized at Costa
Ground. 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad 




[Goanet] Where are the communal harmonistas?

2008-07-08 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

Now that the hoarding of swords seems to be the handiwork
of muslim migrants, the silence of the usual suspects,
who are otherwise quick to issue press statements, is
deafening.  Where's the lawyer lady hiding now?  She
can't find any Hindu Bajrang Dal boys to pin the blame, eh?
These accursed fascist anti-Hindu bigots are a bigger
threat to communal harmony than the fundamentalists
themselves.

The muslim migrants at Monte and elsewhere are among
the most virulent, with their radical brand of Islam (ask
the Goan muslims).  But it would be a mistake to view
the migrant menace through the religious lens.  The
migrants are a problem REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGION.
In absolute numbers, Hindu migrants outnumber
their muslim counterparts.  Goans have to turn back the
migrant tide without regard to religion or place of origin.

Warm regards,


r