date:20080920

Why fundamentalis do not get them involved in service Activities ?
By Ancy Paladka

Readers please note that when the miscreants attacked various churches
mostly belonging to Catholics and there was a peaceful spontaneous
protest. But the police acted as the agents of the Government and
compelled the protesters to turn violent. The Bajrang Dal chief openly
admitted the responsibility of the attacks. Chief Minister, State BJP
president, Home minister everyone came and they condemned the violent
protest. They also condemned the forced conversion. Chief Minister
kept on saying that there can not be enquiry on the attacks. He also
said that he has initiated enquiry on foreign funds. Second time he
said that he is initiating enquiry on Forced conversion. By giving
these statements it appeared as if it is an state sponsored attack.
They also said that the protesters will be punished and will not be
released. They never spoke against the attackers. But the intelligent
Mangalorean Catholics exposed all the evil deeds of the government. So
the central planned to use article 355. Hearing about this with all
the embarrassment the chief minister bent down and said he will
initiate the CoD enquiry. But the people said they don't want that as
it again monitor by the state govt. So again he was made to bent down
and now he says he is ordering enquiry under the chairmanship of
retired jurdge. Also he said that he will arrest Bajarang Dal Convenor
and the culprits who attacked. Also the BJP chief Sadananda Gowda who
was always blaming that there are lots of force conversion today says
the conversions (Remember not Forced Conversions) taking in Negligible
size. Tomorrow I am sure he will be bound to say that no conversions
taking place at all. Because in a present day situation there can not
have any kind of forced conversion. If anyone wants to get converted
by his own will there is nothing wrong as per the constitution. Also
the constitution gives full right to every religion to practice and
profess their religion. Catholics and other christian denominations
are working for the poor, Dalit and Tribal people only with the view
of upliftment. Today Christians who are just 2% in our country manage
more than 30% of old age homes, leprocy homes, Orphanages, street
children, left out childrens homes, unwanted and mentally retarded
childrens homes, psychiatric patiants homes and they try to give them
a dignified life. They give them education so that they will get the
knowledge to choose what is right and what is wrong. So that the
people themselves can fight for their rights. They themselves may
manage their needs. Though the entire Hindu community is a peaceful
and helping community that blends beautifully with all religious
people in their neighborhood these very little negligible number of
fundamentalist group claim to be  representing the whole mass. If so
why cant they get involved in to such educational, service and health
activities to their own community. For them funds generation is so
easy because as they say the represent 90% people. They also have lots
of their people abroad who also contribute generously to them. They
how is it possible for Christians who represent only 2% to manage more
than 30% of various service institutions by collecting funds from just
2% of tier people ?
Also readers please note that Catholics and protestants have always
condemned the acts of small sect of people who themselves are separate
entity. They target anybody they get including Catholics Even these
people can not perform any forced conversions. Also they are
negligible in number.
Also Christianity came to India 2000 years ago. All the Europe,
America, Australia continentals are all christian countries. But even
though Christianity came to India much before it spread to these
European, American Countries Christians are still 2% only in India. If
there was actually a forced conversion then the entire nation should
have been a christian country because British, Portuguese have ruled
us for hundreds of years. This is a very good sign that Christians
blend very well with their Hindu Brethren and respect their culture,
language and religion as they respect their own.


Please find the News item below:

M'lore: Conversions Taking Place at Negligible Size - D V Sadanand Gowda
Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore (SP)

Mangalore, Sep 19: Speaking over phone from Manipal, where his son
Karthik Gowda, an engineering student, is being treated after being
critically injured in a road accident recently, BJP state unit
president D V Sadanand Gowda admitted that the unexpected attacks in
the city and elsewhere have embarrassed the government and provided
the opponents of the BJP with issues to attack the government. This
should never have happened, he opined.

The government would have earned the confidence of the people
concerned, if it had taken immediate steps to control the situation
affectively, after the incidents. The prompt action by the

[Goanet] Nostalgia #7

2008-09-20 Thread Francis Rodrigues


Nostalgia Pic #7:
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1969: A lovely pastel taken from mid-river, of the majestic Hotel
Mandovi, almost 40 years ago. Just 8 years after Liberation, the
surrounding foliage barely affords a glimpse of classic Panjim
before development started to intrude. Visit Tony's blogspot too
below, he's freshly-minted memories of a long-forgotten afternoon.

One can almost hear the dulcet tones of Alfred Rose break into song
Maaan..dovi, oh Mandovi...! - click on the photo to gently unwrap:

http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php

Picture: courtesy Tony Fernandes Goa - Memories of my Homeland
(Poems  Short Stories) pub. Canada: http://tonferns.blogspot.com/

FR.

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[Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic

Rishikesh wrote:

Kindly let readers know your qualifications and credentials - 
if you are professionally qualified. 

Fri Sep 19 09:04:57 PDT 2008
Mervyn Lobo mervynalobo at yahoo.ca 

Those with 'professional credentials' trading in the stock market do not have 
any more insight to the vulgarities of the market than those who have not sat 
for the exams. The concept of lowering taxes, printing more money and 
borrowing to spend abroad, has a price. Those with money in the markets are now 
paying that price. The only govt that has printed more money than the current 
USSA adm has been the Weimar Republic.

Mario agrees:

Rishikesh, watch out for any free advice on Goanet.  One expert advisor on 
Goanet recently told us that those who took his advice on the internet deserved 
their fate.  That was when gold had hit $1,000 an oz. and he gleefully 
predicted in a similar Off-topic post that gold would go to $1,650 an oz. but 
without any time frame as to when.  As you know the time frame of an investment 
is critical as to it's success.  Gold closed today at around $870 and has been 
as low as $820 a few weeks ago.  Perhaps it will reach $1,650 sometime during 
my lifetime:-))

However, while we are waiting for that to happen, the Dow is up 40 points in 
the last month, up 18% the past 5 years and up 44% the past 10 years.

Also, to get another perspective, you may want to read what some REAL experts 
are saying rather than the absurd comparisons between the USA and the USSR and 
Weimar Republic:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080919/business/wall_street_mood_1

Cheers.

[Goanet] Goans will decide allotment of scarce land: Digamber Kamat

Panaji, Sep 20 (IANS) The battle for precious land between titleholders and 
prospective investors across the country has made the Congress government in 
Goa wary of allotting land to industrialists or for special economic zones 
(SEZs), says Chief Minister Digambar Kamat. 
Goans will decide land allotment to outside investors or industrialists 
through local bodies (panchayats) as land is scarce and precious. We are with 
them in protecting their lands, identity and heritage, Kamat told IANS. 
As India's smallest state, with an area of just 3,702 km for a population of 
1.4 million, Goa has decided to amend the law to regulate land allotment for 
setting up industries or SEZs. It has only two districts - north and south. 
We have roped in renowned architect Charles Correa to prepare the draft plan 
and an amendment bill to regulate land acquisition. The local communities will 
vet the draft plan through local bodies to decide land utilisation, Kamat said 
on the sidelines of a three-day summit on realty sector, which began Thursday 
in this picturesque western coastal city. 
The state government plans to introduce the amendment bill in the next 
legislative assembly session. The draft plan will be ready by this month-end. 
Renowned for its beaches, places of worship and world heritage architecture, 
Goa is visited by thousands of international and domestic tourists each year. 
Once a Portuguese colony, Goa also has rich flora and fauna, owing to its 
location on the Western Ghats range, which is classified as a biodiversity 
hotspot. 
Unlike in other states, the government does not own any land for allotment. 
The entire land across the state is owned by people, especially farmers, 
fishermen and growers. In cities and towns like Panaji, Vasco and Margao, there 
has been lot of investment in property by outsiders, Kamat said. 
Mass protests by locals forced the state government to cancel allotment of land 
for a dozen SEZs. Even a 1.2-million square feet SEZ proposal of pharma major 
Cipla in the state has been put on hold due to opposition by the people. 
Locals are wary of any demographic change. They prefer the state to be a 
global tourist destination than an industrial state due to scarce land, natural 
resources and fragile ecology. They also want to protect their identity, 
culture and language from being polarised, Kamat noted. 
Endorsing Kamat's standpoint, union Urban Development Minister S. Jaipal Reddy 
said Goans had the right to have a say in the socio-economic development of the 
state. 
Goa is a special state with respect to urban or industrial development due to 
its topography, demography and fragile environment. Economic growth or 
urbanisation has to be in conformity with its historical, social and cultural 
factors, Reddy told about 200 delegates participating in the 'Girem Urban 
Planning and Real Estate Leadership' summit.
IANS

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[Goanet] B'lore: Conversion only Excuse to Attack Christians - Justice M F Saldanha

B'lore: Conversion only Excuse to Attack Christians - Justice M F Saldanha

Report and pics from Charles Gomes
Daijiworld Media Network - Bangalore (SP)

Bangalore, Sep 19: Leaders of various Christian organizations met the
state home minister Dr V S Acharya and chief minister B S Yeddyurappa
at the Vidhana Soudha here on Thursday September 18, in connection
with the recent unfortunate incidents that have rocked Mangalore and
surrounding areas.

Justice M F Saldanha, former Karnataka High Court judge, urged the
government to act more responsibly and wanted the use of the excuse of
conversion to stop immediately. He asked the home minister to act
impartially to restore confidence in the government, which the
minorities have lost after the recent developments. He drew the
minister's attention to the fact that the incidents that occured in
Mangalore have already damaged the state's image. He also questioned
as to why the policemen are arresting victims instead of the real
culprits, who have openly admitted that they were responsible for such
acts.

Former DG and IGP of Karnataka F T R Colaco asked the government, as
to why they keep on harping about conversions, in spite of the fact
that there has not been even a single proof.  He demanded the
immediate arrest of the miscreants, besides urging the government to
release innocent people who have been arrested. Harry D'Souza, general
secretary of Karnataka Christian Social Welfare Association, submitted
a memorandum to the government.

The home minister and the chief Minister said, that a COD probe has
been ordered. They assured, that all the culprits responsible for the
illegal acts will be arrested and that the government would do
everything possible to normalise the law and order situationin the
affected areas.

DG IGP Sri Kumar, Bangalore police commissioner Shankar Bidari and
home secretary Tripati were present. B G Koshi, senior vice-president
of Karnataka Christian Welfare Association, Charles Gomes , Chairman
of the Federation of Konkani Catholic Associations (FKCA), Karnataka
and  Albina Vaz, vice-chairman of FKCA, Gabriel Vaz, political editor
of Economic Times, bishop of CSI church,  priests and nuns were also
present.

Earlier, a delegation of Christians met the National Human Rights
commission and National Minority commission.

Re: [Goanet] Inappropriate question marks appearing in Goanet posts

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:57:49 -0400
From: J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What part of my post assigns any CASTE to me?

Mario observes:

So much ignorance, so little time.

Jose wrote:

Is Kunbi a caste?

Mario responds:

Yes, it is. See, http://www.webindia123.com/goa/people/caste.htm

Excerpt:

Caste Structure
In Goa, the Bamonn or the Brahmins belonged to the originally priestly class 
taking upon other occupations like agriculture, trade and commerce (merchants), 
gold smithy etc. The Chaddho or the Kshatriyas were the noblemen, warriors and 
related soldiery taking up commercial avocations also. The Vaishya-Vanis were 
engaged in trade and among them were the 'shetts' or goldsmiths pursuing the 
craft of gold and gold ornaments. The Sudir or the Sudras were the workers and 
agricultural labourers engaged in the servicing professions. The Gavddi or 
Kunnbi were the landless labourers, earlier dislodged by the above high castes 
and living in their own wards in the village. There were the Gauddo or Gaudde, 
probably the Vaishya counterparts in Goa of the neighbouring Karnataka's Gowda, 
as there is 'Gaud' found in the Canacona taluka of Goa on Karnataka's border.

Jose wrote:

Isn't Harijan = out caste?

No, they are not out caste, but outcasts.  See, 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/outcasts

Regarding Harijans as a caste, see, 
http://www.mb-soft.com/believe/txo/untoucha.htm

Excerpt:

Untouchables, now called Harijans, have traditionally occupied the lowest place 
in the caste system of Hindu India; they were called untouchable because they 
were considered to be outside the confines of caste. Their impurity derived 
from their traditional occupations, such as the taking of life and the 
treatment of bodily effluvia.

Jose wrote:

If one is a Christian, isn't one naturally ...Out Caste?

Mario responds:

Yes, there are no castes in Christianity.  However, you called your self a 
Kunbi Harijan, which are considered castes.

Jose wrote:

About the self evaluation of self, I agree with you and myself.

I am No One

Mario responds:

If you insist.  However, why do you insist on embarrassing yourself 
by gratuitously inserting yourself in posts where you have no knowledge of the 
question(s) being asked?

Jose wrote:

Are you saying you are Some One?

Please say so.

Mario responds:

Absolutely no doubt that I am Some One.

Jose wrote:

jc
aka sub-Kunbi Harijan zuze

Mario responds:

More evidence that Jose, an alleged Christian, is obsessed about caste.

[Goanet] Bajrang Dal convernor Mahendra Kumar Arrested in Mangalore

Bajrang Dal convernor Mahendra Kumar Arrested in Mangalore

Mangalore: Mahendra Kumar Arrested - Remanded to Judicial Custody

Pics by Dayanand Kukkaje
Daijiworld Media Network - Mangalore (SP)

Mangalore, Sep 20: State convener of Bajrang Dal Mahendra Kumar was
arrested from near Navbharat Circle in the city at around 12 pm late
night on Friday September 19 by the Bunder policemen.

Mahendra Kumar had through a statement issued on the day of the attack
on churches, confessed that Bajrang Dal was behind the attacks, and
also that they were aimed at centres involved with religious
conversions. However, the home minister had been evading demands for
his arrest, saying that there was no tangible proof of his
involvement.

However, after the union government exerted pressure on the state
government to put its act together, the administration jumped into the
action and initiated search operations to nab him since Friday
morning, in Dakshina Kannada, Udupi and Chikmagalur districts.

Kumar was travelling by a car, when his vehicle was intercepted and he
was taken into custody. Other passengers in the car were let off and
their details are not yet known. He was presented in the residence of
a judge here at around 2 am on Saturday September 20, and as per
information, he has been remanded to 15 days of judicial custody.
Further details are awaited.

In the meantime, the district administration has extened prohibitory
orders in Mangalore, Bantwal and Beltangady taluks till Monday
September 22.

source:
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=51389n_tit=Mangalore%3A%20Mahendra%20Kumar%20Arrested%20%2D%20Remanded%20to%20Judicial%20Custody

[Goanet] Daily Grook #223

2008-09-20 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY GROOK #223
_

SAW FLAW
_
by Francis Rodrigues


im a carpenter dude
lost my trade innit,
can't cut the wood
'cos i never saw it!


_
puns  word-play of all kinds,
if you read between the lines!
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[Goanet] Konkani Variety Show - 9th October 2008 - Kuwait










 

  

  

Konkani Variety Show on 9th Oct.

[Goanet] CPI Protest Rally Condemns Attack on Churches, Prayer Halls in Kundapur

CPI Protest Rally Condemns Attack on Churches, Prayer Halls in Kundapur
Report and pic from Vinay Pais
Daijiworld Media Network - Kundapur (SP)

Kundapur, Sep 20: Local unit of the Communist Party of India-Marxist
(CPM) held a public meeting here recently, to condemn the attacks on
churches and prayer halls by Bajrangdal.

The meeting, held in Gandhi Maidan here, was preceded by a huge rally
taken through the streets of the town, which was led by party leader
Mahabal Voderhobli.



Addressing the gathering, CPM district executive committee member
Chandrasheker said that the state convener of Bajrangdal, Mahendra
Kumar, has already admitted the involvement of his organization in
these attacks, but the state government failed to take any action
against him and the Dal. The indifference shown towards the issue by
the chief minister B S Yeddyurappa indicates, that himself as well as
his government are justifying the attacks, launched at the behest of
the Sangh Parivar outfits, he criticized.

The party's district committee secretary K Shankar, speaking on the
occasion, urged the authorities to entrust the investigation into
these attacks and the subsequent police atrocities, to Central Bureau
of Investigation, as any investigation conducted by the state Corps of
Detectives would just be an eye-wash, as in the past.

H Narasimha proposed vote of thanks.

Source: 
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=51406n_tit=Kundapur%3A+Protest+Rally+Condemns+Attack+on+Churches%2C+Prayer+Halls

[Goanet] Edu has sent you a playlist: Golden Goa - Konkani songs

2008-09-20 Thread [Edu's World]

   http://www.youtube.com/

  This is awesome!
  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1D8630EFDD2786AB
Golden Goa - Konkani
songshttp://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1D8630EFDD2786AB
Welcome to Edu's World and listen to some wonderful konkani songs from Goa.
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Re: [Goanet] More Pics ANKVAR MORIECHEM DUKH sung by Remie Colaco

2008-09-20 Thread Edward Verdes


Thank you Joe bab for the video..that was great watching Remmie sing
one of the memorable songs till dateAnkwar Moriechem Dukh...for those of 
you interested in listening to this song...this song is sung by Melque 
in...Lipelim Motiam Album...besides Flory and other old hits of old 
tiatristby the way is this Blanche the same who has sung a few songs 
with Titta Pretto?


Words of this song are available at : http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/

Dev Borem Korum
Edward Verdes
- Original Message - 
From: JoeGoaUk 


And here is the song he sang 'ANKVAR MORIECHEM DUKH 
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[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: 'Sobhavik' vo Addechi Lipi?

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1994) SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM:
'Sobhavik' vo Addechi Lipi?
- Jose Salvador Fernandes
Konknnichi 'sobhavik lipi' mhonnpi devnagorintlean, 21 vorsam fattim Gõyant
Rajbhas Kaido pas korun ghetlo. Devnagori hi Konknnichi 'sobhavik lipi' zalear,
aiz tiche udexim sobhavik ritin Konknnichi xime bhaili udorgot zaunk zai asli.
Iskolamni, unch madheomik xallamni, kolejimni xiktoleank ani xikpeank aple avoi
bhaxechi he 'sobhavik lipi'-ntlean avodd lagonk zai asli. Xalla, kolejimni
xikpi bhurgim Inglez bhaxentlim potram-pustokam hatalltat toxim he Konknniche
'sobhavik lipi'-ntlean-ui uzvadda yeupi potram-pustokam tim hatalltana disunk
zai aslim. Tim boroitana, SMS kortana, internet-avelean ekameka kodde gozali
kortana te 'sobhavik lipi'-cho vapor tanchea tea vevharant yeunk zai aslo.
Ekech pavttin sangtolo zalear, devnagoricho vapor aiz Gõyant chaltea vevharant
zalolo disona.
Rajbhas Kaideantlean tika mozbut korpacho proyotn korun-ui, ti lipi
sorv-samanea Gõykaranchea jivitant porki, soddun dil'li, bhairailoli zalea.
Aplea vevhara khatir ticho obhiman sodd, konnak tichi goroz legit disona. He
lipintlean potr ieta, masikam, nemallim, vorsallim uzvadda ietat, tim-ui konnak
vhoddlimxim vachun disonant. He lipintlean thoddem-bhou vachpa sarkem sahit'ya
uzvadda ieta zalear, tem-ui vachpachi konnak umollxik na. Zalear, jika
'sobhavik lipi' mhonntat ticho faido kitem?
Khuinchech bhaxek 'sobhavik lipi' asona. Toxem polleunk gelear, eke bhaxent
kitleo-i lipi asum ietat. Punn tea lipincho te-te bhaxe khatir vapor zaina
zalear, tancho faido kitem?
Aiz Gõyant, Konknniche Romi lipintlean 13 nemallim uzvadda ietat
(devnagorintlean 4 ietat). Tea bhair, Gõychea firgojentlim 82 firgoz-potram
romi lipintlean uzvadda yeun, Gõyant Konknnichi 'sobhavik lipi' nhoi mhonnlole
Romi lipi azun-ui vevharik lipi mhunn gollta hem thavem zata. Tea bhair, Romik
Rajbhas Kaideantli bhair dovorlea astana-i he lipintlean aiz meren khubxim
pustokam uzvadda ietat. Ekech pavttin sangchem zalear, Gõyant devnagori poros
azun-ui romi lipicho vapor chodd zata. Thodde, aplea hatant aslolim romi
lipichim madheomam gheun devnagoricho prochar kortat tachi soglleankuch khobor
asa!
Devnagori tor Konknnichi 'sobhavik lipi' zalear, sobhavik ritin monant thodde
proxn ube zatat -Mongllurant Kon'nod lipintlean Konknni bhas itli fulta-paleta
koxi? Thoimsor Konknnicho soglloch vevhar tech lipintlean koso cholta tor?
Konknnichi ti 'sobhavik lipi' nastana-i te lipintlean Mungllurkaramni Konknni
chim pallam-mullam koxim mozbut kelim tor? Kerollant iskolamni 'sobhavik
lipi', mhonnche devnagori thapun Konknni samballpacho yotn kelo. Punn
thoimsorli Konknni he 'sobhavik lipi'-chea porkeponnak lagun meli koxi tor?
Lipiche nodrentlean aiz Konknni bhaxecho vichar kelear, fuddarak devnagorik
dhok'ko bospachi bhirant asa. Konknnik devnagorichi odhikrut (official) saddi
nhesoun apunn surokxit asat oxem chintpeank hea dhokeachi bes-bori khobor-ui
asa. Dekhun, 'sobhavik lipi' mornna pasun addaun dovorche khatir, tika tannim
mullavea xikxonn ghetoleancher thapli. Punn zobordosten thaplole he lipintlean
aiz amchim bhurgim xikunk sodinant, ani ti xikounk xikovpi-i khuim tori
oddchotat. Kiteak te 'sobhavik lipi'-nt ekach somazachi boli asa.
Fattlea satolleant, eka satolleacher hea lipivada vixim 'sobhavik lipi'-chea
muniarean ek 'comment' kela - Romik Rajbhas Kaideant zago ditoch, uprant romi
lipi xikxonnant ghalunk romivaleanchi magnni astoli. Oi! Romik nit melltoch ti
kaidean xikxonnant ailear devnagori sanddon vetoli hachi te 'sobhavik
lipi'-chea muniareank bhirant dista.
20/09/2008
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[Goanet] Dear Goa Herald ...will you please give this reporter a raise in salary?

2008-09-20 Thread Miguel Braganza

Dear Dr. Jose Colaco,

Calling a Cardiologist a Cardiac surgeon is a minor offence in Goan 
journalism when compared to calling a Paediatrician and Orthopaedic Surgeon 
. or calling a Botany graduate as a horticulturist . To most 
correspondents, reporters and Sub-Editors it is Babi, Shabi poca difference. 
Some of them would be hard put to tell the difference between 'series' and 
'serious'in the era of spell-check: all options on the menu look equally 
appealing and the only problem is which one to choose. So it is Ena , meena , 
mynah, more ..

There is another problem. Lecturers in Higher Secondary Schools like to prefix 
their names with a Prof.. My friend, Prof. Sebastiao Mariano Borges, 
Editor, columnist and calumnist par excellance at least has a M.Sc. in Geology 
and taught the subject in Chowgule College as a lecturer. For some time, the 
Agriculture graduate officers in Goa were struck with the madness of prefixing 
Dr. to their names and even insisted that I do. thank God , we have been able 
to overcome that fetish. Those who have Ph.Ds are still infected with that 
virus in Goa.
While Adv. Aires Rodrigues is making a big issue of a non-Graduate being a 
Minister for Education, people with graduation in Arts, Fine Arts or Commerce 
strut about   Environmentalists, Horticulturists Ecologists, Scientists 
and the like. 

Some editors even come to the defence of such honorofic titles assumed by 
their columnists ...even where they are Editors where the name is also used 
with the horrorfic titles.

The Govt. of Goa even issues Gazette notifications adding the title of an AWARD 
[not degree] like Padma Bushan or Padma Shree to the name of a person appointed 
by it to a Committee or Commission ...the latter being a more appropriate term. 
;-)

Have heart, the person whom the reporter mistakenly called as a cardiac surgeon 
is a cardiologist! Dr. Francisco Colaco is not a man to pretend being what he 
is not. I can vouch for that. There are few men like us in Goa.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:05:01 -0400
From: J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Dear Goa Herald ...will you please give this
reporter araise in salary?
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Herald  re: It's rain  thunder against communal violence!,

My good friend, Dr Francisco Colaco is a well known cardiologist who
is smart enough to make his diagnosis and provide treatment with
resorting to surgery - for, a Cardiac Surgeon he is not.
Would you  please ensure that your alleged No Name reporters get their
facts right.
sincerely
jc
==
HERALD REPORTER
PANJIM, SEPT 16 - Such was the resolve of the people ..

Well-known cardiac surgeon, Dr Francisco Colaco speaking on


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[Goanet] Why we hate!

2008-09-20 Thread marshallmendonza

Santosh wrote:
It is important to remember that partisan frenzy and propaganda, whether it is
published in Times of India or Goanet, can add more fuel to the fire of
communal discord.
Comment:
I have asked Santosh in my previous mail to point out what information
constituted propaganda and what was not. He is yet to respond. Yet very
unscientifically he goes on to brand the information as propaganda and partisan
without adducing any proof,and in one sentence tries to rubbish all the news
items about the death and destruction caused by the sangh parivar. So much for
scientific temper!!!
Santosh wrote:
Being measured and thoughtful about what one says in public in explosive
situations is a mark of prudence and civility, not complacency.
Comment:
There are different stages when reacting to any situation. First is to condemn
any wrongdoing. Then offer relief to the victims. And then go into the causes
of the incident to avoid it recurring in the future. But trying to sound
measured and thoughtful while there is mayhem all around is akin to Nero
fiddling while Rome was burning.
Santosh wrote:
Most Indians do not subscribe to the agenda of terrorist groups, extremist
political parties and radical religious organizations. There is a greater need
to remember this fact at this time. This is a time for reason to prevail, not
emotion driven by religious and partisan loyalties.
Comment:
Yes I agree that most Indians are peaceful and do not subscribe to the hate
agenda of the sangh parivar. And that is what gives me hope in this country.
All the same, remaining silent does not help. It is very important to speak out
loud and clear. It is only when sane voices speak that insane voices drown.
Santosh wrote:
There are many reasonable and thoughtful perspectives on the current communal
riots.
Comment:
First of all calling the pogrom a 'communal riot' shows a macabre sense of
humour.A riot takes place when two or more parties clash, What we have
witnessed in Orissa and Mangalore is a one-sided pogrom by the Bajrang Dal. You
sure know how to apply vinegar to open wounds.
Santosh wrote:
The militant activists and political operatives we see on Goanet will keep on
fighting and blaming each other.
Comment:
Please name the 'militant' activists and 'political operatives' and let us know
what form of violence have they propagated on Goanet.
Santosh wrote:
I append below one such alternative viewpoint, sent to me by a friend who is
based in Karnataka, and whose family is as much Christian as it is Hindu. The
fact that such thoughts do not involve hyperbole and hyperventilation does not
mean that the people who have them are any less concerned about communal
violence. Indeed, I submit that it is these level-headed folks who would
ultimately be responsible for peace non-violence to prevail.
Comment:
The article is a big joke. Let me quote from the article-
1.'All this unnecessary furore over burning churches, buildings and bridges!'
Comment:The author has trivialised the death, destruction, rapes, burning of
innocent people as 'unnecessary furore' Maybe the author should answer what
would be a 'necessary furore'
2.'It really is a battle of semantics because when you get down to it, neither
'Hinduism nor Christianity are religions — both are lifestyles.'
Comment:Belief systems being labelled as 'lifestyles'!!!. As in fashion.Like
footwear, clothing, dining, Wow!!!
3.'To burn a church is a tragic act, however, it does not injure Christ.'
Comment: Sure. But does this give an open licence to burn, vandalise and
destroy?
4.'There are thousands of Indians who know Christ but do no want to be known as
Christians because of the ‘excess baggage’ that accompanies the term, the pain
of the past and the indignities that were imposed on human beings in India by
people who called themselves Christian.
Comment: What are these 'excess baggages'? What were the 'indignities' that
were imposed on human beings in India by Christians? The author has failed to
elaborate but left it to wild imagination.
5.'The genuine follower of Christ in today’s turbulent times in India will not
meet the hostility through aggression or through a martyr complex, but will try
to undo the damage of the past by living and manifesting the message of the
gospel, which when translated into everyday life, is the message of love.
Comment:The author has failed to specify what 'is the damage of the past' that
a genuine christian has to undo. This is typical of ivory tower advisors. Let
your homes burn, let your children be killed but let us discus lofty ideas.
Gives us an intellectual halo and hepls us avoid taking decisions and action.

Regards,

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Re: [Goanet] Inappropriate question marks appearing in Goanet posts

2008-09-20 Thread J. Colaco jc

The very knowledgeable MarioG quoted the following excerpt to prove
that Kunbis were a caste (MY CAPS)

[ Yes, it is. See, http://www.webindia123.com/goa/people/caste.htm
Caste Structure : In Goa, the Bamonn or the BRAHMINS belonged to the
originally priestly class taking upon other occupations like
agriculture, trade and commerce (merchants), gold smithy etc. The
Chaddho or the KSHATRIYAS were the noblemen, warriors and related
soldiery taking up commercial avocations also. The VAISHYAS-Vanis were
engaged in trade and among them were the 'shetts' or goldsmiths
pursuing the craft of gold and gold ornaments. The Sudir or the SUDRAS
were the workers and agricultural labourers engaged in the servicing
professions. The Gavddi or Kunnbi were the landless labourers, earlier
dislodged by the above high castes and living in their own wards in
the village.]



jc's response:

Thank you very much Xri MarioG.

So, you are suggesting, Are you not? that there are 5 Castes in the
Hindu Caste System? Now you 'tolds' me!

And ALL this time, simple me was believing that Manu (He was a
Portuguese chap ...right?) (:-), Yes, 'Manuel' had decreed only 4
castes!. Thank You for correcting me and enlightening me to the fact
that there were actually 5 castes.

Those Portuguese were Not So Nice folks, were they?

They forced us to write our Konkani in that Unnatural and Foreign
Script (Ask 'ProSorbab')

They forced the Saraswats who are the original (Lord Parshuram)
inhabitants of Goa to join them in Portuguese controlled Mangalore.
They are now being displaced by the Lord Jagjivan Ram followers who
have appeared en masse in Goa.

The Portuguese did NOT introduce computers into Goa

The Portuguese forced Goans to drink Port Wine and Eat spicy hot food
now correctly called Wind-a-Loo (Hence the need for Port-a-Loo)

and the Portuguese chap Manu invented the Caste System and imposed it
on Goans who were hitherto quite peaceful and sans pain except for the
Odds On chance of having to be 'circumscribed'.

Thank you once again, MarioG. You are just as brilliant as your guru
...the other G who invented those famous foot-in-mouth isms'.


Sincerely

jc

---
Mario continued:
brgt; gt;brgt; More evidence that Jose, an alleged Christian,
is obsessed about caste.brgt; gt;brbr

jc's: Hanh!

[Goanet] Knocking on Goa's Doors

2008-09-20 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil

Herald, 19 Sep 2008

Knocking on Goa's Doors
by Vidyadhar Gadgil

Hard on the heels of the communal violence in Orissa, we have an
outbreak of communal violence in Karnataka. In both cases, it is the
Christian community that has been attacked and the purported reason
has been protests against conversions. The BJP is in power in both
Karnataka (on its own) and Orissa (as a coalition partner).
After the attacks in Karnataka, the BJP Chief Minister of Karnataka B
S Yediyurappa, a man with very strong RSS links, has assured strict
action against the miscreants. But even this statement, the very
minimum that could be expected, has not come without the customary
rhetoric about conversions, notwithstanding the fact that there has
not been a single complaint about illegal conversions in Karnataka. In
effect, the message sought to be sent out is that the Christian
community deserved what happened. While the promised action against
those guilty of the attacks on churches and Christians is awaited,
there has been action of another kind – against those, both Christians
and others, protesting the communal violence in Karnataka. Obviously,
Yediyurappa means to keep his oft-repeated promise to convert
Karnataka into another Gujarat.
The rising communal temperature in the country should come as no
surprise. With the 2008 general elections approaching, calculations
within the BJP suggest that it would not be able to get more than 140
seats, while it would need at least about 180 to be sure of forming a
coalition government at the centre. Given this scenario, those within
the BJP who have been pushing for a hard-line communal mobilisation
agenda (the 'Modi line') have prevailed.
The Amarnath issue came as a great opportunity for the BJP. The party
milked the issue for every last drop of political mileage, not only in
Jammu but all over India; little did it care that the consequent
blockade of the Kashmir valley set back the normalisation process in
Kashmir by many years, and further deepened the alienation felt by the
average Kashmiri from the Indian nation.
But one Amarnath does not an election make: the tempo has to be built
up and sustained. The obvious targets for this are the states where
communal propaganda has been going on for years, and where there are
friendly governments in power. It is in this context that the communal
violence in Orissa (and parts of MP) and Karnataka against the
Christian community has to be seen. We can expect more trouble spots
to emerge in the months ahead.
Such strategies of communal polarisation can sometimes cause some
collateral damage to the BJP's own short-term interests, and one of
the sites of such collateral damage is in Goa. The citizens of Goa,
irrespective of faith and community, have been outraged by the
violence against the Christian community, and have united to condemn
the violence. The rally in Panjim on 16 September saw thousands of
citizens of all communities come together to oppose communalism.
For a few years now, ever since it realised that it is well-nigh
impossible to win an election in Goa without at least a portion of the
Catholic vote, the state BJP has put its efforts to woo the Catholic
vote into overdrive. But now the BJP finds its strategy in shambles,
with the Catholic community completely alienated and other communities
too increasingly sceptical of the BJP's bonafides. It is in this
context that one has to understand the crocodile tears being shed by
Manohar Parrikar over the communal violence in Karnataka.
The fact of the matter is that the Goa BJP has no choice but to be
seen condemning this violence (though even this condemnation has been
qualified with dubious figures indicating that in Goa it is Hindu
shrines that are more under attack than churches or mosques). Coastal
Karnataka is just too close by, and culturally similar, to be
studiously ignored the way Parrikar ignored communal violence in other
parts of the country. About Orissa he continues to maintain a glacial
silence. He has consistently refused to utter even a word of
condemnation or protest over Gujarat; whenever the topic has come up
in interviews, he has only said that Gujarat is not relevant, and we
should talk about Goa. Let us take his advice and do just that.
The March 2006 communal violence in Sanvordem-Curchorem awakened Goans
to the harsh reality of communalism in their midst. People realised
that the strong syncretic traditions of Goa were insufficient bulwark
against the systematic communal propaganda being carried out by
various Hindutvavadi organisations like the Bajrang Dal, the VHP, the
RSS, the Sanatan Sanstha and the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti. These
bodies have been working to communalise Goan society for many years ;
and it is the BJP which has benefited politically while professing to
have nothing to do with it (convincing nobody except those who, for
whatever reason, deliberately refuse to see).
In the post-Sanvordem era, we have been treated by the HJS to an
exhibition

Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic

2008-09-20 Thread Marlon Menezes


--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, to get another perspective, you may want to
 read what some REAL experts are saying rather than
 the absurd comparisons between the USA and the USSR
 and Weimar Republic:
 

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080919/business/wall_street_mood_1
 
 Cheers.
-
Wall Street is in a good mood (for now) because the
Feds are using your money to bail them out. They are
laughing all the way to bank so to speak.

For good returns, consider P2P lending. 

Marlon

Re: [Goanet] Dear Goa Herald ...will you please give this reporter a raise in salary?

2008-09-20 Thread Roland Francis

Perhaps dear Jose you have by now realised that the most important
word in your sentence below has gone horribly wrong?

Shades of a word in error in an official document that made the
Karnataka Govt claim Goa as it's own??

Roland.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM, J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Herald  re: It's rain  thunder against communal violence!,

 My good friend, Dr Francisco Colaco is a well known cardiologist who
 is smart enough to make his diagnosis and provide treatment with
 resorting to surgery - for, a Cardiac Surgeon he is not.

[Goanet] Talking photo: Please Identify.. (car)

2008-09-20 Thread JoeGoaUk

Talking photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2862232392/sizes/l/

Please  Identify
1. The car
2. The spot/Place


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Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic

--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, to get another perspective, you may want to
 read what some REAL experts are saying rather than
 the absurd comparisons between the USA and the USSR
 and Weimar Republic:
 

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080919/business/wall_street_mood_1
 
 Cheers.

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wall Street is in a good mood (for now) because the
Feds are using your money to bail them out. They are
laughing all the way to bank so to speak

Mario observes:

You are right that my money is at risk - in the short run.

However, the only ones who are laughing are anti-Americans who overlook 
the fact that the US has the inherent ability to address its problems and 
recover from them - always has, always will.

Sooner or later the profligate spending and currency devaluation will end,
as it always does, and the next business upswing will begin, this time, 
I'm guessing, from the need to become energy independent.

If it doesn't, it will be the first time in the country's history.

[Goanet] A Stitch In Time

2008-09-20 Thread Roland Francis

There are measures that can be taken to prevent a communal flare-up in
Goa and rather than denying such a thing will happen, it is better to
put them in place as soon as possible.

Taken from Bombay's experiences.

1. Form community committees with a prominent local swami, priest,
mullah and gurudwara leader - all men of reason with moderate views.
Beware of infiltrators and keep hotheads out.

2. Get out the webcams, cameras, mini tape-recorders and assign them
to committee members of various faiths. The identities of these people
should be kept secret. This is for immediate publication on the
internet and for later proof. This can be sent to Goans outside of Goa
who can provide this proof to their local MPs in India, Canada, UK,
Australia. An immediate national and international hue and cry will
prevent many possible deaths.

3. Organize working relationships with community minded local police
station point-men, providing them with intelligence of anything
untoward brewing in the community. If the local police person is
apathetic, identify a regional upright senior police officer.

4. Keep a special look-out for anyone in the municipality using voting
lists to identify flat owners by religion. These lists are used for
targeting members of a particular faith with violence.

5. Have periodic inter-faith religious prayer meetings where all
attend to show solidarity and friendship with each other.

6. Strange but true - keep strong bonds with local communist party
cells. Being men who favor no religion and being militant, active and
well-organized, they are a great help in troubled times.

7. Get as many women involved as possible. They know what is happening
in their houses and they know suffering and pain like men never will.

There are other ways and means known to local men of good intention
and they know best what can be implemented.

-- 
Roland Francis
Toronto
+1 (416) 453.3371

Re: [Goanet] Inappropriate question marks appearing in Goanet posts

Mario wrote:

Yes, it is. See, http://www.webindia123.com/goa/people/caste.htm

Caste Structure 
In Goa, the Bamonn or the BRAHMINS belonged to the
originally priestly class taking upon other occupations like
agriculture, trade and commerce (merchants), gold smithy etc. The
Chaddho or the KSHATRIYAS were the noblemen, warriors and related
soldiery taking up commercial avocations also. The VAISHYAS-Vanis were
engaged in trade and among them were the 'shetts' or goldsmiths
pursuing the craft of gold and gold ornaments. The Sudir or the SUDRAS
were the workers and agricultural labourers engaged in the servicing
professions. The Gavddi or Kunnbi were the landless labourers, earlier
dislodged by the above high castes and living in their own wards in
the village.

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:17:02 -0400
From: J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So, you are suggesting, Are you not? that there are 5 Castes in the
Hindu Caste System? Now you 'tolds' me!

Mario responds:

I'm not suggesting anything.  If you disagree with the source above,
please let them know.

Besides, in addition to Kunbi, you also referred to yourself as a Harijan.

Jose wrote:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-September/080746.html

Quote, because jose is a sub-Kunbi Harijan

Mario responds:

More evidence that Jose, an alleged Christian, is obsessed about caste.

See, http://www.mb-soft.com/believe/txo/untoucha.htm

Re: [Goanet] Why we hate!

2008-09-20 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Sat, 9/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have asked Santosh in my previous mail to point out what
 information constituted propaganda and what was not. He is
 yet to respond. Yet very unscientifically he goes on to
 brand the information as propaganda and partisan without
 adducing any proof,and in one sentence tries to rubbish all
 the news items about the death and destruction caused by the
 sangh parivar. So much for scientific temper!!!


It is unclear why this guy is continuing his fight with me, now resorting to 
innuendo, and insinuating that I am somehow unconcerned about the communal 
violence, and am being unsympathetic to the victims. In his latest post he is 
even gratuitously accusing me of engaging in humor, just because I used the 
term communal riots instead a word he likes - pogrom. Indeed, the use of the 
latter word nicely illustrates the type of partisan propaganda that I am 
referring to. I have not seen this word being used by any objective news report 
in the mainstream press. But it is a staple of propaganda pieces such as the 
following in a Khalistan publication.

http://www.panthic.org/news/129/ARTICLE/4361/2008-09-12.html

My use of the term communal riots is dictated by objective accounts in the 
mainstream press. For instance, the following report in CNN refers to 
Hindu-Christian riots:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/09/16/india.riots/?iref=mpstoryview

Regarding partisan propaganda, articles such as the above are found all over 
the internet. I have witnessed press reports and other material being used in 
this forum for this purpose by several individuals, including Marshall Mendoza 
and someone called Laluram Salvi. For example, just yesterday Marshall Mendoza 
posted the following report on Goanet, implying that this incident is connected 
with the attacks by Hindu extremists on Christians elsewhere:

http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2008-September/datepost_id=080796

If you read it you find that the two arsonists were unidentified. How does one 
know that they were Hindu extremists? Why not communist extremists, 
troublemakers or copycats?

Other propaganda articles posted by Marshall are:

1. 
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2008-September/datepost_id=080178

This article badmouths the Hindu swami whose killing triggered the Orissa riots.

2. 
http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2008-September/datepost_id=080061

The above article gratuitously tells us about the activities of the Communist 
Party of India (Marxist) in relation to the communal violence.

Similarly, Laluram Salvi has sent several posts in a counter-propaganda 
offensive. For me, it is hard to escape the conclusion that these guys are 
activists or political operatives of some kind.


Please name the 'militant' activists and 'political operatives' and let us 
know what form of violence have they propagated on Goanet.
 

I have named above two activists/political operatives who are fighting on 
Goanet. As far as violence propagated on Goanet by them is concerned, Marshall 
Mendoza is simply trying to put words in my mouth to show me in the worst 
possible light he can.

Cheers,

Santosh

[Goanet] Remembering Bakibab Borkar (30/11/1919 to 8/7/1984)

2008-09-20 Thread Sandeep Heble

Dear Sudhir,

It's nice to hear from you. I am a bit embarrassed, but I am not a
huge fan of poetry and I have not much clue about Bakibab's translated
works on Rabindranath Tagore's poems.

I shall however get in touch with other family members/ friends and
try to locate the same for you.

In the meantime, here is a link to some songs which you may enjoy
http://www.esnips.com/web/SwarabhishekVol1/

You will find a couple of Bakibab's poems here, 'Nahi Punyachi Mojani'
and 'Kashi Tuja Samajau Sang', sung by Pt. Jeetendra Abhisheki. A
couple of Mangesh Padgaonkar's poems are here too.

Regards and good wishes
Sandeep

[Goanet] Request from Rev Fr Cedric Prakash SJ to sign the petition to Stop Hate crimes in Mangalore

2008-09-20 Thread Robin Viegas

When Modi campaigned in Karnataka, he said in no uncertain terms, that 
Karnataka would / should become another GUJARAT !

This is proving all true as is evident on the attack of Christian Pastors, and 
well, there is also a flip side

Several of the newspapers in Gujarat highlighted how Gujarati boys (read 
Hindus) were hounded out of their hostels and colleagues by the Kannadigas. 
So Karnataka is learning real fast when they start hounding out people who are 
not like them.

How about the poor farmers who were murdered after the new Government took over 
? Yes, already becoming JUST LIKE GUJARAT !

Leopards they say, can never change their spots Let's hope civil society in 
Karnataka wakes up atleast now.

I have just read and signed the online petition: Stop hate crimes in 
Mangalore hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition 
service, at:

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/UnitedM/

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, 
too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing 
yourself.

Besides,kindly also forward it to as many of your friends/contacts too.. We 
need to do our best to help preserve the diversity and the secular fabric of 
India
Thanks,

With warm wishes,

Fr. Cedric Prakash sj
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I have signed this petition  I request you to do like wise.  Please tell your 
friends to sign.

Robin Viegas

Re: [Goanet] Dear Goa Herald ...will you please give this reporter a raise in salary?

2008-09-20 Thread J. Colaco jc

Dear Roland,

You are absolutely correct. My good friend, Dr Francisco Colaco is a
well known cardiologist who  is smart enough to make his diagnosis and
provide treatment WITHOUT resorting to surgery.

Fortunately, I am NOT a journalist by profession. I could not afford
to make a TYPO in my profession. That is why, I check and double check
before I hand over the prescription.

As you surely agree: Those who portray themselves as Journalists too
have that responsibility to check and recheck before they publish. Do
you not agree?

As you may surely have noted: Some of our alleged Journalists do not
appear to believe in checking and double-checking. They just go full
lick with their Verbal Diarrhoea.

I do not mean .the TYPOS. I mean the alleged and even manufactured facts.

Would you trust a doctor who negligently makes mistakes in writing
prescriptions?

Would you trust a journalist who negligently fails to verify all the
sides of a story?

I am sure that your answers to both questions is NO!

good wishes

jc



2008/9/20 Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps
dear Jose you have by now realised that the most important word in
your sentence below has gone horribly wrong?


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM, J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My good friend, Dr Francisco Colaco is a well known cardiologist who
is smart enough to make his diagnosis and provide treatment with
resorting to surgery - for, a Cardiac Surgeon he is not.

Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic

2008-09-20 Thread Mervyn Lobo

Mario Goveia wrote:
 However, while we are waiting for that to happen, the Dow is up 40 points 
 in the last month, up 18% the past 5 years and up 44% the past 10 years.



Folks,
There is a saying in Africa, You usually get the leaders you deserve. 
The Dow index has increased 44% in the last ten years. All of that increase
was accomplished when Bill Clinton and the Democrats were in power. They 
ran a Govt that produced a budget surplus, a strong economy and a strong
currency.
??
??
George Bush (43) introduced policies that have resulted in budget deficits, a 
collapsed financial sector and a rapidly depreciating currency. When George
Bush (43) became President, the Dow was at 11,000 points. Eight years into his 
failed presidency, the Dow is at 11,000 points and in a crises mode. 
??
??
When George Bush (43)  was sworn in, the US dollar was strong. It took only 
US $270 to buy an ounce of gold. It takes US $870 to buy that same ounce 
today. This is what happens to your currency when you consistently run budget 
deficits. What happens to your financial sector is even more interesting. 
US banks today have no capital and are almost bankrupt. They are depending on 
Govt
guarantees to survive. Financial institutions from the rest of the world are 
going
to great lengths to get rid of all their US based assets and currency.
?? 
??
??
??
 Rishikesh, watch out for any free advice on Goanet.  One expert advisor on 
 Goanet 
 recently told us that those who took his advice on the internet deserved 
 their fate.  
 That was when gold had hit $1,000 an oz. and he gleefully predicted in a 
 similar 
 Off-topic post that gold would go to $1,650 an oz. but without any time 
 frame 
 as to when. As you know the time frame of an investment is critical as to 
 it's 
 success. Gold closed today at around $870 and has been as low as $820 a 
 few weeks ago. Perhaps it will reach $1,650 sometime during my lifetime:-))
??
?? 
Mario, I do wish you a long life. However, even you, with all your rare 
diseases, will
live to see gold at $1,650 as there is a finite amount of gold in this world. 
There is no 
limit to the amount of dollars the US govt has to print. The more it interferes 
in running 
companies, the more it interferes in the stock markets, the more money it has 
to print. 
More money in circulation results in only one thing. INFLATION. 
??
The hedge against inflation is gold.
??
Mervyn3.0
PS. Here is the new Manchester United jersey that is available on Newt 
Gingrich's site.
It sums up the fallaciousness of the current US administation.  
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/jeule/2008/sep/18/new-manchester-united-jersey/


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Re: [Goanet] Why we hate!

2008-09-20 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ingrid, reminds me of the police inspector who upon finding
 a rape victim, insist that they should have behaved
 themselves.
 

Hi Selma,

I am unable to judge your critique of Ingrid's perspective. Unfortunately, I 
don't think she can defend herself here because it is unlikely that she is a 
member of this forum. Perhaps, she is not as concerned as you are about the 
communal riots because she has not seen the charred body of the nun or the 
bullet-ridden body of the Hindu swami, as you have.

Cheers,

Santosh

[Goanet] Looking for friends/classmates

2008-09-20 Thread Olga Maciel


Hello everyone in Goa,
I thought I would like to get in touch with some of my friends/classmates
from Aldona St Thomas Girls School. There were many but I am just 
mentioning a few of them here from SSC class. They were Gloria  Shirley Mendes 
(sisters),
Mirza Trindade, Alda Lobo, Sushila Menezes, Ida D'Souza, Laura Pinto,
Amelia Comelo, (Faustina Sequeira  Celina Pereira who became nuns) 
Praful Nagvenkar (who sat next to me). I keep in touch with only one friend
Margaret Pereira who is in UK and we were together from the age of 8 or 9,
all the way from Pomburpa school to Aldona school.
There were two others from Pomburpa school, Celina Monteiro  Madhuri Navelkar.
If anyone reading this, it would be nice to get in touch with each other.
Thanks.
Olga Maciel
_
Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/

[Goanet] Talking Photo: Suicide at Sunset Beach ?

2008-09-20 Thread JoeGoaUk

Talking Photo: Suicide at Sunset Beach ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2874148870/sizes/l/


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 
  
For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
   
  In Goa, Dial  1 0 8  
  For Hospital, Police, Fire etc

[Goanet] Meet this young Goan Drummer

2008-09-20 Thread JoeGoaUk

Meet this young Goan Drummer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sukhLUlcYQc


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa

In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc

[Goanet] Xavier Fernandes - North Goa's famous compere to host NITE O'ROSES

2008-09-20 Thread gaspersWorld


 :::Xavier Fernandes to host Nite O'Roses on 2nd October at Crowne Plaza:::

Good evening ladies and gentleman..! 

The words are quite synonymous at the start of every party and program. And
the person who draws full attention of everyone is the host and centre of
attraction -- the MC. 

Traditionally, a MC uses rhyming verses, whether pre-written or freestyled,
to introduce everyone he works with, and hype up the crowd. 
Kuwait Indians will have an opportunity to see and hear the unique glib of
international fame Master of Ceremonies and Event Manager Xavier Fernandes
at the NITE O'ROSES being organized by Navelim Youth Centre on Thursday 2nd
Oct 2008 at Crowne Plaza starting 8pm onwards.

Hailing from Candolim, Bardez - Goa, Xavier has hosted numerous product
launches, conferences weddings, parties, etc, since 1983. 
 
The Master Compere is best seen shining at Christmas and New Year Eve shows
in Goa, Valentine Nite shows, other Dine  Dances, Beat shows, Fêtes, Theme
Nites for Hotels  Clubs, and even local festivals like Sao Joao, Sangodd,
etc .
 
The famous Master of Ceremonies is also actively involved in educational
institutions, social, cultural and pastoral activities.
 
  :::Jive Competition at Nite O'Roses:::

If you don't know to dance, blame the floor. 
 
Thats a popular phrase which goes well in Konkani. Well, among the current
genre you dont need to know 'dancing'. Just get on to the floor, and as
they say -- Hip-Hop.
 
Navelim Youth Centre  Kuwait (NYC-Kuwait) is geared up to make sure that
the culture of 'delicate' steps remain popular among the youth and old. 

NYC's last dance nite in Kuwait featured a Cha Cha dance contest. This year
s Nite O' Roses will see NYC organize yet another competition - a Jive
Competition.

:::Excellent Prizes for the Winners:::


 
:::BlackSlades for Nite O'Roses::: 

Kuwait: What do you get if you get India's best drummer, the most talented
guitarist, a bass guitarist like none in the country, an equally impressive
guy on the keyboards and a vocalist who is as young at heart as he is
talented at the task . ??? Makes for a lethal combination, doesn't it?
 
That's how you would describe the BlackSlades once you've seen them perform.
By any standards one of the best Goan bands around. This group of guys are
based in Delhi but are very much Goans at heart.
 
BlackSlades will rock Kuwait at the Nite O'Roses on Thursday 2nd October
2008.

Kuwait's upcoming band 2#Sharp is the other musical group geared up to
feature at the Nite. 

Michael Almeida ( Keyboards ) - Nephew of Kuwait's famous musician Shahu. 

Ronald ( Vocalist ) is like a firecracker exploding endlessly. He comes from
the coastal village of Benaulim and is the most charismatic of the lot.
Ronald is also the youngest in the group and started singing professionally
at the age of 19. One look at Ronald and you may take him for a walking,
talking billboard for a style magazine, with accessories and a haircut as
vibrant as his personality.

Menino ( Guitarist/Vocals ) is a very humble person and easy to get along.
Six strings on a piece of wood with Menino's fingers is a sure way to make
magic that maybe cannot be seen but definitely can be heard. Menino is
originally from Colva and is a very good cook as well. 

Succoro ( Drummer ) - This guy's looks are deceiving - he may look like a
scientist about to discover something big, but give him a drum set and you
will feel the bass kick in a pulsating rhythm that is sure to leave you
asking for more. Succoro is the quietest member of the band but when he
speaks everybody better listen. He is originally from Colva. 

Anthony ( Bass Guitarist ) comes from the beautiful village of Velsao. Anton
as he is called by those close to him, is a very down-to-earth person, the
kind who would only take as much as needed. He is an amazing player of the
Bass guitar. Anthony is also into martial arts (taekwondo). His aim is to
release an album in Konkani. 
 
To reserve entry-passes please contact NYC members 
 
:::Nite O'Roses is being held under the leadership of newly elected Navelim
President Agnello A.S. Fernandes.:::

Re: [Goanet] About S. S. Ramdas

2008-09-20 Thread Roland Francis

Dear Vandana and Varun,


Please see:
http://www.timesrelieffund.com/ramdasship/ramdas.htm

The sinking occured at 10 am on July 17, 1947. My wif'es paternal
uncle Glory Furtado of Varca, Goa was the Chief Engineer and went down
with the ship although I am told he could have saved himself. His
daughter lives somewhere near Caranzalem and if you intend to find out
more, you can get info either from the Times of India ref that date or
I can give you her contact on the off chance that she may have
photographs and clippings of that event.

Regards,
Roland
Toronto
416-453-3371

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Vandana  Arun Vaidya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is concerning the ship S. S. Ramdas which capsized in the 
 Arabian Sea around 60 years ago. There was some discussion on the tragedy in 
 goanet two years ago (Aug. 2 and 3, 2006).
I was a School boy in Mumbai at the time (12 years old) and I 
 clearly remember the tragedy. It happened in 1947 and a lot of the passengers 
 perished but there were also survivors. The Captain of the ship himself 
 survuved - there were uncharitable comments about him to the effect that 
 there was a time when the Captain of a ship insisted on not leaving his 
 sinking ship until all others had safely left and so many captains went down 
 with their ships but here is a Captain who saved himself and let several 
 others perish. The Newspapers of Mumbai were full of the news of the disaster 
 for many weeks. A public enquiry was also held into the disaster. I recall 
 that the watch of a survivor was taken as evidence. The watch had stopped at 
 8:20 indicating that that was the time the ship went down. To determine the 
 exact date of the tragedy and other details, one has only to go through the 
 daily papers of that time. I would definitely have done that if I was in 
 Mumbai. Would some one do that please?
   
  ...Arun.
 Vandana  Arun Vaidya, Ahmedabad
 91-79-2662 1507
 +919824633794.

[Goanet] Goa news for September 21, 2008

2008-09-20 Thread Goanet News Service

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Buy Sesa Goa, target of Rs 157: Emkay Global -
Moneycontrol.com
[16 hours ago]  Emkay Global Financial Services has initiated a
buy rating on Sesa Goa with a target price of Rs 157 in its
September 19, 2008 research report. ...
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*** Goa Education Minister faces case for \'faking\'
qualification - Hindu
[14 hours ago]  Panaji (PTI): An NGO on Saturday fileda
criminal complaint against Goa Education Minister Atanasio
Monseratte for allegedly giving false information about ...
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*** Sesa Goa: Melting - Business Standard
[Sep 18, 2008]  Iron ore producer Sesa Goas stock price has
come off by about 47 per cent since early June 2008. Thats
probably because spot prices of iron ore have been ...
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*** Green Flea - Indian Express
[4 hours ago]  With #152;Goa as the theme, the open market
sought to bring to Delhithe popular Anjuna flea market of Goa
with its thatched-roofed kiosks that resembled tiny ...
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*** Goa\'s IFFI hopes soar with official\'s transfer - Times of
India
[Sep 18, 2008]  PANAJI: The path for Goa to organise the
International Film Festival of India (IFFI) on its own got
easier with the transfer of director of film festivals ...
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*** Student pulled up for post on blog, quits Goa University -
Times of India
[Sep 18, 2008]  PANAJI: Jay Joshi, a student of the political
science department at the Goa University, said that the
humiliation caused after being pulled up for ...
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*** 11 Goan students get NCERT scholarship - Times of India
[21 hours ago]  PANAJI: Eleven Goan students, the highest
number yet, have been chosen this year for the National Council
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*** Goa will be finished if Mopa airport is built: Alemao - Zee
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[16 hours ago]  Panaji, Sept 20: Goa Public Works Department
(PWD) minister Churchill Alemao has alleged that few
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*** Change your mind - The Times
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*** Goa beaches get facelift on cleanliness drive - Hindu
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[Goanet] Goan music-7: HERALD(Goa), Sept 21, 2008

2008-09-20 Thread Valmiki Faleiro




GOAN MUSIC-7
By Valmiki Faleiro

“Tiatr” produced copious volumes of music-song. Named after the Portuguese 
‘Teatro,’
the Konknni stage was Goa’s largest of performing arts, mainly among Catholics. 
It sure
featured names like Kamat de Assolna but bulk was Goan Catholic, some with 
curious
stage names like Titta Pretto and Jhepsis Hitler!

“Pai Tiatrist” Joao Agostinho (JA) Fernandes, actually “Irmao” of pioneer 
Lucasino
Ribeiro as JA himself always protested, wrote original plays and music right 
from his
first, and history’s second, Tiatr. JA set Tiatr in the seven-Acts format, and 
between the
Acts, songs that could be solos, duets, trios or quartets. With his own wife, 
he introduced
women to the stage. His themes were clearly aimed at social reformation.

Thence, the world of Tiatr produced many giants. They would take a tome to even 
be
briefly discussed. I’ll restrict to a few whose song-music so impacted my young 
mind that
I remember them to this day. I was not old enough to see some of them live, but 
heard
their renditions from vinyl records or from ‘Akashvani’ (in those times, “Aqui 
Portugal,
fala Emissora de Goa.”)

Personally, my greatest Tiatrist was singer-actor Kid Boxer. Not just for his 
song, but for
his courage of conviction. Allow me to leave the best for the last, in a couple 
of Sundays,
when I’ll elaborate.

One colossus of the Tiatr world was Minguel Rod. He strode the Konknni stage at 
a
precocious age, entering when he himself was only 13. His songs attacked social 
ills,
which is natural as he hailed from a poor tribal background of Cortalim. His 
verse-lyrics
were absolutely original – even if his tunes at times were borrowed. His 
imagery and
satirical bite was not. A song went like, “(The landlord’s) house was massive/ 
built of
rock-solid stone/ but a wall collapsed/ when a pig’s tail accidentally brushed 
against it.”
Credited with revival of the Tiatr during its gloomiest days, Minguel produced 
colourful
titles like ‘Lembddo Santan’ and ‘Pobre Fidalgo.’

Year 1955 was tumultuous for the Portuguese in Goa. August 15, India’s 
Independence
Day, saw several “Jai Hinds” shot dead or injured at border points of 
Patradevi, Molem
and Polem. On October 5, Portugal’s Republic Day, hundreds of natives converged 
at
Cortalim. Everyone from Governor to gun-totting soldier quaked, until it was 
discovered it
was not an internal ‘Satyagraha.’ Minguel Rod had died. Like several Tiatr 
greats, at a
young age: 32. “Aqui Portugal …” announced the demise in all its six language 
news
bulletins. And annual radio tributes until liberation.

Anthony Mendes is my best Konknni comedian-singer, not because his ancestral 
house
was a whistling distance from mine. Such was his singing, dancing and acting 
talent that
he was about to be inducted in Hindi films, when he too departed – also at a 
relatively
young age. Upon his death, Alfred Rose composed and sang a tribute to him. 
Several
times during its rendition, Alfred broke down, and with him, most in the 
audience.

Anthony need not have uttered funny Konknni lines to have the crowd in splits. 
He
achieved that by merely twitching his bushy whiskers or squinting his 
saucer-sized eyes.
Or a faked movement of his agile body – or even with an equally spurious 
Padri-style
short quote in Latin! He scripted Tiatrs but only one, “Joao Paddekar,” was 
staged in
Goa. Typical of his song lyrics:

“Ho tuzo guneaum, muzo guneaum, kestaum pettota / Beijeam svater, vontt 
poleancher,
thapttam suzota” (on domestic tiffs between spouses, where, instead of kisses, 
slaps
resound off cheeks.)

After him, Jacinto Vaz and M. Boyer held the flag of stage comedy high.

In this galaxy, the greatest in his day was Alexinho de Candolim. He sang and 
also
penned some pretty powerful Tiatrs, including his famous “Sonvsarant Konn 
Konnacho,”
and his trademark last, “To Bhavtto Dhormancho.” Alexinho died at age 49, in 
1964.

Young Menezes was the first rapid-fire (“jet-speed”) singer. He liberally used 
Konknni
adages in his songs, including one titled ‘Hotel de Jakin!’ Like his senior 
fellow villager
Alexinho, Young’s songs rhymed perfectly.

Trio singers (three actors interspersing in a song) were popular on the Konknni 
stage.
The most legendary was Kid-Young-Rod (Kid Boxer, Young Menezes and Minguel Rod.)
Among the famous Trios was Rom-Rem-Rod, who sang on the abominable murder of a
Taleigao housewife, her daughter and a yet unborn child. That crime, a few 
years from
liberation, shocked Goa, earned Malayalees local hatred and, in a long time, 
the Aguada
gallows a trophy.

The generally accepted “Trio Kings” were Conception-Nelson-Anthony. Their 
political
satire was so devastating that they invited post-1961 official wrath on the 
Tiatr fraternity
– special guys, let’s leave them for the last piece. (To conclude.) (ENDS.)

The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at:

http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330

[Goanet] Goanet] Can someone tell me what about this surname?

2008-09-20 Thread U P Kamath

Sorry Colaco,

 Could not reply your mail. Been busy with my hereditary
vocation of planning and cheating a bunch of sub sub sub something tribal.
Made a small packet.

 You have not yet explained what those more than 2000 feet
long jet straight line bunds of paddy fields were doing in a tribal society.

 You can start from paddy fields of Carambolim or from the
surface of the moon. You got to explain the irrational extremely expensive
and foolish straight lines in an agrarian setting. They would have been
foolish even a hundred years ago, not at the dawn of history.

 I hope you will have some explanation by the time I am
back.
 I have another bunch of sub sub sub sub something tribal to
plan and cheat. Did you observe four sub prefixes? That simply means only
sixty percent of their thinking is rational - rest of the brain consists of
irrational emotions.

  This time it is going to be a killing. Wish me luck
Colaco. On second thoughts, who needs luck with such odds.

  Who says tribal innocence is gone? Being a saraswat with
no prefixes of sub, I count my chances till anyone with a single sub prefix
exists.
 The fight will not be one sided only when all persons
around me drop their sub prefixes and stand as tall as I am.

- regards upkamath.

Re: [Goanet] Inappropriate question marks appearing in Goanet posts

2008-09-20 Thread J. Colaco jc

OK then So MarioG is 'confirming' that Kunbi is a caste

This means that Kunbis are either Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya or Sudra

or that there are 5 castes as per the new discovery of MarioG

Thank you MarioG

You are as right as the other stubborn headed G

jc


2008/9/20 Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Besides, in addition
to Kunbi, you also referred to yourself as a Harijan

Jose asked: Is Kunbi a caste?

Mario responds: Yes, it is.
See, http://www.webindia123.com/goa/people/caste.htm

[Goanet] Why we hate!

2008-09-20 Thread marshallmendonza

Santosh wrote:
It is unclear why this guy is continuing his fight with me,
Comment:
Sorry, I have no fight to pick with you. But as one who has been posting on
various matters with a somewhat sense of balance and objectivity, your response
to the carnage in Orissa was baffling and a big letdown. If you read your own
posts again with a clear mind, you may perhaps realise this.
Santosh wrote:
Regarding partisan propaganda, articles such as the above are found all over
the internet.
Comment:
If Santosh feels that articles in the meanstream press like Times of India,
NDTV, PTI and eyewitness accounts are propaganda, he is free to believe the
same.He can continue to live in denial.Others on Goanet know the difference.And
to club press reports from the mainstream media with stuff from RSS
publications again shows a macabre sense of humour.One can wake up a person who
is sleeping but one cannot wake up a person who is pretending to sleep.
Santosh wrote:
I have named above two activists/political operatives who are fighting on
Goanet.
Santosh wrote:
Santosh has called me a political operative without any proof or
evidence.Neither am I fighting with anyone on Goanet.If posting articles from
the mainstream media or putting forth one's point of view is considered as
fighting, Santosh is free to believe so. So much for his scientific temper.I am
now convinced that whether highly educated or not, all human beings have the
same failings.
Santosh wrote:
As far as violence propagated on Goanet by them is concerned, Marshall
Mendonza is simply trying to put words in my mouth to show me in the worst
possible light he can.
Comment
I quote from Santosh' previous post 'The militant activists and political
operatives we see on Goanet will keep on fighting and blaming each other'
Please refer to the meaning of 'militant'. No one is putting words in your
mouth. It is flowing from there.

Regards,

Marshall

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