[Goanet] German girl Rape Case: BJP MLA’s Son involved too??

2008-11-03 Thread JoeGoaUk
German girl Rape Case: BJP MLA’s Son involved too??

The Education Minister, Mr Atanasio Monserrate, whose son Mr Rohit Monserrate 
has been accused of sexually abusing the German girl, in a press note released 
on Sunday said that his son would cooperate with the police now that the girl 
has deposed before the court and had her medical test done.

He said that his son is an adult and �should be responsible for his actions and 
must face the consequences of breaking the law, if he has done so�.

On Saturday, Mr Rohit Monserrate and Mr Joshua De Souza, the son of the Mapusa 
BJP MLA, Mr Francis De Souza, deposed before the police and gave their 
statements.

The Education Minister, however, warned that he would resist attempts to 
�selectively target only my family members for extraneous and political 
purposes� and stated that the police have already recorded statements of his 
son, his wife, Ms Jennifer Monserrate, the PWD Minister, Mr Churchill Alemao�s 
nephew, Mr Warren Alemao and Mr Joshua De Souza.

Read more
http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008100369



Very strange!!

No arrest, no remand, no custody….

Just appear from nowhere and give statement and go back to hiding again?

I wonder if the same rule/treatment applies to Aam Aadmi.


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[Goanet] A new browsing experience

2008-11-03 Thread Tony de Sa
For a long while, I swore by Microsoft. I got my baptism in surfing with
Internet Explorer 6. Even though friends kept trying to 'convert' me to open
source software, I was reluctant to change, Old habits die hard. I did a
little experimenting and went through the paces, IE 6.5, Opera, IE 7, IE 7
pro, in quick succession but all had something missing - something
intangible.

IE 7 pro has its good points. Like a mini download manager, crash recovery
window to take you back to the pages you surfed last in case of a system
crash, numerous plugins that that help you. Was it my imagination? Or was
there something still missing?

Then I decided to try Mozilla Firefox 3.

Things have changed drastically since. Firefox 3 has all the good things of
IE 7 pro and then more. There are loads of skins to choose from. There are
addons and scripts that you can run. My favourite addons are Cooliris which
allows you to preview a page by clicking on a blue icon near the link to the
page. If for instance, you google for something, without opening any of the
links, you can preview the pages. No opening new pages or tabs.

Another interesting addons is the videoembed (FLV player)  that enables
downloading of youtube movies.

My favourite is Fire.fm

Fire.fm streams non stop music. Just type in an artist, genre or tag and
listen away. Right now, I am listening to King of the Road - Glen Miller
and I feel I am the king of all surfers

Happy surfing, then
-- 
With best wishes and regards,
Tony

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Things do not change; we change.
- Henry David Thoreau



[Goanet] Malaria sucks...

2008-11-03 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
Facebook page on malaria. Very relevant for Goa:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11138406233ref=nf#/group.php?gid=11138406233

Malaria Sucks because:

1) Annually between one and three million people - more than 70% of
them children - die from malaria.

2) Malaria is the number one killer of mothers in the world.

3) 500 million people get it every year.

4) It is preventable - but we don't prevent it for the poorest people on earth.

5) It is a Genocide of Apathy.

6) It is a circular disease of poverty. It causes poverty and is
caused by poverty.

7) There is no Aflac in Africa for people who are forced to miss work
when they get malaria.

8) When we don't take care of each other it is like we don't take care
of ourselves.

9) It is the tip of the iceberg. If we are ignoring malaria - an easy
disease to fight but a massive killer - imagine how bad things are for
people who get pneumonia (kills two million children per year) and the
neglected diseases.

10) Unlike the chills I got swimming in the bay in Connecticut in
December (see group pic) the chills you get when you get malaria don't
go away with a warm shower.

11) 20% of the medications for malaria are counterfeit.

-- 
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[Goanet] MHOZO POTTI BOMBOI GUELLA (Then and now)

2008-11-03 Thread JoeGoaUk
Thanks Jane,

You remind me of the popular Mando which in turn made me to write this..

===

MHOZO POTTI BOMBOI GUELLA

Then in changed to the following order..

Mhozo Poti  Afrika gela
Tacho usko maka zala

Then…

Mhozo poti tarvar ghela..


Mhozo poti Kuwit gela….

Or Duboi gela..
Or Mascot gela..
or Iraka gela

Then…

Mhozo poti  Purtugala gela..

Mhozo poti Perisa gela..

Mhozo poti  Londona  gela..
 Or  swidona gela..

Mhozo poti Amerika gela..

Or kenedda gela..

And now..

Mhozo poti Keymona gela
Tacho usko maka zala
Ani nimanne rati sopeacher boison
Beiju maka dila

Quote:
MHOZO POTTI BOMBOI GUELLA
 
Mhoozo potti Bombai guela,
Tacho uskho mhaka zala
Ani nimanne rhattri sopeacher bosson,(bis)
BEIJO MHAKA DHILLA ...(BIS)
 
 
Ch potti hie, potti hie,
Ani ghopan mhaka ghue.
 
3.Mhojea potti-xim vettelim,
Akhem voros-bhor rautelim,
Ani dhogam assam tim tegham zatoch,
Khoxen ghara hettelIM.
 
CH.

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[Goanet] Looking for info from Dubaikars

2008-11-03 Thread Carvalho

Can any Goans who were in Dubai in the sixties remember what companies operated 
then? 

Was Gray Mackenzie's first office at the mouth of the creek? I came across 
information that the first office had about 42 staff in total, of which 35 were 
Indians and 9 were Arabs. Of those 35 I am sure most were Goans as Gray 
McKenzie was particularly fond of employing Goans. If you know anyone who 
worked for Gray McKenzie during this time,please do let me know

Also any other information of Dubai during the sixties, stories, anecdote, 
would be greatly appreciate.

Best regards,
Selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Printing in Goa

2008-11-03 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
Hi Augusto, What you say is probably a shared experience with many of
us. This is the experience with the way government offices work in
Goa. It is essential, in my view, to get some of these old documents
scanned and shared online. Cyberspace is less prone to lethargy! FN

2008/11/3 augusto pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dears
 Let me narrate a bad experience I had at the Govt. Printing Press regarding
 which FN sent us the website link
 http://governmentprintingpress.com/2008/08/13/subscription-rates.html
 I wanted some books from there. The clerk in charge of the sale of books was
 very uncooperative and I assure you I did nothing to provoke him. When I
 went there he told me to come the following week for the books I wanted.
 When I went there the next week, he told me to come the next week. All this
 while he and the peons were just sitting around doing nothing besides
 gossiping

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[Goanet] 'Congress leader scuttled investigations into German girl's rape'

2008-11-03 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
'Congress leader scuttled investigations into German girl's rape'
November 3rd, 2008 - 4:44 pm ICT by IANS - 

Panaji, Nov 3 (IANS) All India Congress Committee (AICC) General
Secretary B. Hariprasad scuttled police investigations into the rape of
the 14-year-old German girl in which kin of three Goa ministers are the
suspects, counsel for the victim Aires Rodrigues said Monday.Addressing
a press conference here, Rodrigues said that the police investigations
were satisfactory until Hariprasad landed in Goa to look into demands of
leadership change lobbied for by cabinet ministers Churchill Alemao and
Atanasio Monserrate whose kin have been named as suspects in the rape
case. 

Hariprasad's dinner diplomacy that night changed the course of the
investigation, Rodrigues told the media, adding that there was immense
political pressure on the police to kill the case. 

While the main accused in the case Rohit is Education Minister
Monserrate's son, the other accused Warren is the nephew of Public Works
Department Minister Churchill Alemao and Urban Development Minister
Joaquim Alemao. 

Rodrigues said that the police were needlessly delaying the
investigation even after the victim had deposed before a judicial
magistrate and a medical examination had confirmed rape. 

The police could have collected a copy of the girl's statement Saturday
itself. But the officer present in court left sometime before the
deposition process could be completed, the advocate alleged. 

Rodrigues has also expressed shock at the statement issued by a senior
police official that the police had already extracted a statement for
Rohit Monserrate, who has been 'missing' since the day the offence was
booked. 

On the one hand the police say that a 'lookout notice' was issued in
Rohit's name and now they claim that they have taken Rohit's statement.
He is an accused in a rape case. The police are giving him preferential
treatment because he is the son of a minister, Rodrigues alleged. 

If this is the way the police are going to behave, we will be compelled
to place this factual position before the Bombay High Court bench in
Panaji during the hearing Tuesday, Rodrigues said. 

He also alleged that police were now trying to target a head constable
at the Calangute police station for non-registration of the original
rape complaint for 12 days. 

They are making a scapegoat of the head constable for delaying the
registration. A rape complaint involving a minor is always brought to
the notice of senior officers at the police station, Rodrigues said. 

The Bombay High Court had taken suo moto cognizance of the complaint.
The police have been asked to update the court with the investigations
conducted by them from the time the complaint was registered.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/congress-leader-scuttled-in
vestigations-into-german-girls-rape_100114478.html

~(^^)~

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[Goanet] Ref: Hindutva Valor or Hindutva Terror

2008-11-03 Thread Freddy Fernandes
HINDUTVA VELOR OR HINDUTVA TERROR

 

Some time back, out of the blues plunked an alien entity on to Goanet called
himself Laluram Sadhvi OH NO !!  Laluram Salvi from Bicholim, who tried his best
to delude members of this forum with droll assortment of Hindutva ideologies,
his famous argument being All Muslims were not terrorist but all terrorist were
Muslims 

 

Knock Knock are you there Laluram   Of late, have you been reading news
papers or watching news on TV ?  Don't tell me all of a sudden you have gone
deaf, dumb and blind !!

 

Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and her associates, the alleged practitioners of
'Hindutva terror' or would you rather call it Hindutva Valor, Laluram ?

 

While most of the politicians are now trying to distance themselves from Sadhvi,
the Shiv Sena have inextricably linked themselves with terror, by openly
supporting Sadhvi, they have gone on record to say, that they will support her
all the way, in what ever way required, this action goes to show that, there is
an immoral equivalence, between the radical saffron outfits and the treacherous
SIMI. 

 

The anatomy of religious hate is becoming stronger by the day and decorum of
human life is in jeopardy. Religions were made to help people improve the
quality and sanctity of human life and for humans to live in peace and harmony
with one's self and with others around and in ambience with nature, but that
does look far fetched with Politicians mad hankering for power, and with agendas
of their own, can we really eradicate religion from political rhetoric's ? Or is
it just an abstract notion, or a misplaced conception ? 

 

Dr. Osborne Peter Vaz, of Old Goa on Herald, today, has put it in right
prospective when he says Is there any politician of integrity and honour in
India, so loved by this nation that he/she can win the hearts of its people?
Unfortunately we only have politicians with shady backgrounds and small minds.
It is a shame that Mahatma Gandhi died without leaving behind a worthy
successor. And it is a greater shame that Indians can only make movies showing
Gandhi's principles but cannot put them into action Very much true, isn't it  ?

 

The fires of Orissa have not been doused yet and violence reared it's ugly head
in Maharashtra, A cub, thinking he is the king of the jungle of politics with
the inalienable need for power, seeks to best regulate and modulate a popular
mandate for himself and trying to out do the pair of the flamboyant aging Lion
and his son, masked in his own delusions of being the champion of the
Maharashtrain cause, sent forth his lynch-men on a mission of destruction and
devastation of democracy and of human life.

 

The Politicians will stoop down to any level to draw political mileage form the
disaster that befalls, like vultures ever so watchful for a carcass to feast on,
by conflating issues and public notions. They will not hesitate to make use of
the pervasive security and social apparatus at their disposal, cynically
twisting facts for their own benefit to woo votes and use religion, caste and
region  as weapon, of mass destruction and our beleaguered government can only
be an impotent bystander to all the atrocities of our elite figures. We should
all be aware of, how far the BJP and it's allies are willing to take theocracy
and fascism for the sake of a popular mandate. Will Advani be able to make his
ever so elusive pipe-dream of becoming India's PM a reality and at what cost ?

 

Do we have any one, who can liberate us, from this periphery of chaotic
ideological gibberish, of saffronised religious fanatism ? Or do we have to wait
for the reincarnation of Mahatma Gandhi ? 

 

Who is going to bell the monster ?  CAN WE ?

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] STT: We are a family of five

2008-11-03 Thread JoeGoaUk
STT: We are a family of five

I am the head of the family working in Govt. Dept as Sr. Officer.
My wife is a typical housewife (Not into NGOs/social activism)
My eldest son 18 doing college
My second son 15 in SSC
My daughter 13 studying STD VIII

Our assets:
House 3bed Apt. purchased 10 years ago Rs.12 lacs (now worth 70 lacs)
Car  Rs. 8 lacs
Motor bike 50,000
Jewelry  2.5 lacs
Land/plot  purchased 5 years ago for 5 lacs (now worth 28 lacs)
Bank fixed deposit: 6 lacs 
(1 lac each in child’s name, maturity amount tripple)
Our share in the ancestor house/property worth 15 lacs.
Various advances (close family members borrowings etc) 1.5 lacs
Expected back pay (Re: 6th pay Commission eff. Jan. 2007) Rs. 4 lacs
Expected Retirement benefits - provident funds etc  5.5 lacs


Following are our av. monthly outgoings (Expenditure):

Food Stuff (Ex. Fish, Poder/Milk) Rs. 3500
Fish  only  3500 (if no fish then children go on hunger strike)
Milk/poder (baker)  1500
Bills  3000
(Elec/Gas/Water/tax/phone/internet/Cable/Newspaper/house keeping/etc)
School/College fees (Ex Pvt.Tuition fees)book/uniform/transport etc 4000
Pvt.Tuitions fees only 3000
Petrol my car  sons motor Bike 2500 (I only drive during w/ends, week days
I take lift to work)
Movies at Inox (all 5) twice a month 2500 
(includes tickets @190/head + popcorn/drinks)
Family outing/Picnics twice a year by car – 600
Kids birthdays/gifts/pocket money 1250+250+4500= 6000
Saving a/c daughter 500
Kids Clothing footwear etc  1000
Self Alcohol/Bar/Friends   4500 (I don’t smoke)
House repairs/painting/furniture etc  1000
My old Parents 1000 (my contribution, there are other sons too)
Misc. Expenses 1500

Total outgoings Rs.39,500 per month



Our Liabilities:
Bank loan..  Nil
Others :  Nil

Our Income: (monthly)
Salary: 19500 net

Others Misc. official income Nil



Total monthly Income:   19,500
Total monthly Expenditure:  39,500

= -20,000

i.e. Expenditure is more than the income by Rs.20,000

How come ?
(And that’s your homework for today)


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[Goanet] Obama will do good work as President of USA

2008-11-03 Thread edward desilva
Hi All,
Opinion poll is one thing, turnout is something else.
The majority of the educated American want Obama to win.
The illiterate call him Arab Hussain.
Into which catagory does USA fit into?
ED.
-
Dr. U. G. Baradsaid:
Dear Goanet Members,
I really don't know whether this message would be bounced by Goa net Admin
for I was sharp on pointing finger to Goanet rules. 
However, I realized that many messages regarding USA has been transmitted to
members. Therefore I though I should also write this message.
I was really trying to find out how consumable prices including petrol rose
so high.
My study reveals that It's Bush's stupidity that has created havoc all over
the world . During his last 6 years, he bought all Euros and now he is
releasing the Euros only to see that his party candidate becomes next
President of USA. 
I Hope and pray, Obama wins the race, all though Blacks have never become
president of USA. 
Just pray and hope this first black becomes president of USA.
Best regards,Dr. U. G. Barad






[Goanet] Woman who 'cared for the dead' bids g oodbye to Qatar

2008-11-03 Thread Simon D'Silva

Woman who 'cared for the dead' bids goodbye to Qatar
Publish Date: Monday,27 October, 2008, at 02:37 AM Doha Time
By Bonnie James

Eugenia (second left) being felicitated by Kohli, Dr Thomas and Dr Malini at 
the ICBF function


AN INDIAN housewife who touched the lives of many over the past three 
decades by leading a group of volunteers to dress up the dead at the 
mortuary is leaving Qatar for good with fond memories.


Eugenia Dias, from the state of Goa, has not kept count of the bodies she 
and her team have cleaned and dressed at Hamad Medical Corporation's morgue 
since they started the charitable activity in 1977.


We have cared for the dead from all over the world, the publicity-shy Doha 
resident of 37 years told Gulf Times in her first and last interview to 
any media organisation, as she put it.


Eugenia landed in Qatar in 1971 to join her husband Diogo C Dias, two years 
after their marriage. The incident that inspired her to embark on the unique 
mission occurred in 1977 in Doha.


Three young Indians who went to play music at a wedding died in an 
accident. All were in their early 20s, and one of them was our neighbour and 
very good friend, she said while recalling the shock of seeing the bodies 
lying in a pool of blood in the mortuary.


At that time there were two community members, Tony Fernandes and Agapito 
Carvallo, who used to help in dressing the bodies, following in the 
footsteps of a compatriot lady, Lydia D'Abreo.


I had seen them doing this and said I would help them to prepare the bodies 
for sending home and ever since I have been volunteering, stated Eugenia, 
the mother of three grown-up sons and a college-going daughter.


When Tony and Agapito left the country, Eugenia and her team of fellow 
Indians Nerry Alphonso, Francis Gonsalves, K M Sebastian, Molly Polly, Effie 
D'Souza and Merlin Abreo took over the task to clean and dress the bodies of 
all non-Muslims dying in Qatar.


There is a separate set-up to do the same for the Muslim community.

It is either the mortuary attendants, relatives of the dead, companies or as 
in some cases, the embassies concerned who contact Eugenia and her team for 
their voluntary services.


Usually the family or the employer provides the clothes while the rest of 
the materials to clean the bodies are supplied by the hospital.


In order to keep the bodies from decomposing till they reach the respective 
destinations, the hospital staff helps to inject them with formalin.


There are cases in which some bodies are covered in dirt and blood and 
disfigured, especially as a result of accidents.


We make sure that the bodies are very clean because when the family members 
back home open the coffin they would have some consolation to see that their 
loved one looks neat for the final journey, Eugenia said.


Though the social worker was never in the limelight and always kept a low 
profile, a couple of honours came her way, a Papal medal from the late Pope 
John Paul II in 1992 and an appreciation award from the Indian Community 
Benevolent Fund (ICBF).


I was selected for the Papal medal following a reference from the former 
Parish priest of the Catholic Church in Qatar, Fr John Vanderlin, along with 
Rocky Fernandes (another long-time Doha resident), she recalled.


Asked why she was leaving Qatar for good, Eugenia replied: It is high time 
for me to go, I have stayed (here) for a long time.


She will join her daughter Tiziana who is studying in India.

Of her three sons, the eldest one Joseph and his family, and the youngest 
Bashrie are Doha residents, whereas the second son Nezi and his family are 
in Canada.


My team members have assured me that they will continue our work even after 
my departure from Qatar, Eugenia stated.


The social worker pointed out that she would not have been able to undertake 
her mission but for the wholehearted support of her family.


Diogo and our children have never complained, even when I had to buy food 
from outside because of my schedule, she gratefully recalled.


Diogo said he had always been happy with his wife's voluntary activities and 
encouraged her. We are proud of her, was how Bashrie summed up his 
sentiments for his mother.


Fr John always used to say he would not thank me, but Diogo instead, 
because without his support I would not be able to accomplish what I was 
doing, Eugenia said.


I was very happy in Doha, I will always keep the memories of my life here, 
and I really thank all the people who loved me and will keep them in my 
prayers, she added.


The social worker was honoured by the ICBF at a meeting at Birla Public 
School on Friday. ICBF president Dr Mohan Thomas reminisced that he had the 
opportunity to work with the team many times.


Eugenia reconstructs the mutilated body of the people from road accidents 
looking at their old photographs, with the skills and precision of a plastic 
surgeon, he said.


Speaking on the occasion, Eugenia hoped she and her team 

[Goanet] Duty change to hit India's low-grade iron ore exports

2008-11-03 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Duty change to hit India's low-grade iron ore exports

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Iron ore producers in Goa said on Monday their
exports would be sharply hit by last week's duty changes, which a top
exporter said would double taxes on sales of low-grade fines.

Late on Friday, the government changed the way it taxes overseas sales
of iron ore fines, replacing a 15 percent value-based duty with a flat
rate of 200 rupees ($4.1) per tonne, a move industry officials said
could lead to closures.

But Glenn Kalvampara, secretary of the Goa Mineral Ore Exporters'
Association, told Reuters the switch would amount to a 90 to 100 percent
increase in export duty on fines, which make up nearly a third of Indian
exports of iron ore.

Instead of 110 rupees ($2.24), we will have to pay 200 rupees. So in
effect it has increased the export duty by 90 to 100 percent,
Kalvampara said.

By even retaining the 15 percent duty there had been innumerable
hardships for the mining operations in Goa. This amendment has worsened
the plight of the already sinking low-grade producers to the extent of
immediate shutdown, he added.

He said the duty change would hit all ore exports with an iron content
of 52 to 58 percent. The government kept the export duty on iron ore
lumps unchanged at 15 percent.

Domestic steel makers have been lobbying for an increase in iron ore
export duty to ensure adequate supplies of the raw material.

Goa exports about 30 million tonnes annually, out of India's annual
exports of 90 to 100 million. The bulk of its exports are of low-grade
iron ore.

More at:

http://in.reuters.com/article/economicNews/idINIndia-36289220081103?page
Number=2virtualBrandChannel=0

~(^^)~

Avelino




[Goanet] Obama will do good work as President of USA

2008-11-03 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

This message is in reply to Message: 4, Dated: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 From: Mario
Goveia under subject title as in above. 

Mario what you wrote through your above message are your views. And what I
had written previously are my views. You must remember that one cannot
superimpose one's views on others. I don't want to contest you nor defend
nor object to your expressions. As for me I support Obama and pray he
becomes next President of USA. And if I had voting right my vote would have
gone only to Obama.  

Lastly, Mario, just to save your valued time, let me keep you informed that
I don't respond to any off line messages that I get from Goanet Members. I
believe the issues raised in Goanet are to be sorted out only in and through
Goanet and not privately. This I am writing to you as a clarification as to
why I did not respond to your personal mail to me which you had sent on
Sunday, November 02, with a subject reading - See what I have to put up
with???, which was in connection with Radhakrishnan Nair's message to your
posting. 

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad





Re: [Goanet] Lawsuit questions whether Barack Obama was born in the USA

2008-11-03 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mario Goveia wrote:
 In the US the ONLY positions that a foreign born citizen like myself, 
 cannot run for office is President and Vice President.


 Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.
 No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, 
 at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, 
 shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be 
 eligible to that office who shall not have attained to 
 the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the 
 United States.

 Mario responds:
Thanks for confirming that my statement above was correct. 
I clearly cannot run for the Office of President or Vice President.




Hi Mario,
Your post comes somewhat as a surprise as it is only once in a blue moon that 
you completely agree with me.

To re-cap, my contention is that the USA effectively has two classes of 
citizens:
1) Those that can run for any political office
2) Those that are barred by law from running for political office.


The people that fall into the second category are immigrants and those 
convicted of crimes.

  
 If you respond to this perhaps you can provide some proof that I cannot run 
 for any other political office in the USA.



Well, my friend. 
I have always aimed for the top positions.
If you are interested in one of the entry level jobs, just tell me which one 
you are aiming for.
I will do some research and inform you if you are 'allowed' to run for that 
entry level job or not.


Mervyn3.0
PS. I am taking three US citizens to Texas for the US elections. The 
youngest, who is a  dual Canadian/USA citizen, 
says she wants to be President too. I told her that there is nothing to stop 
her from contesting that position. 


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[Goanet] An Open Letter to L K Advani by George Menezes

2008-11-03 Thread marshallmendonza
Santosh wrote:
I give below latest examples of partisan chauvinistic remarks, the likes of 
which are unlikely to promote communal harmony in this secular public forum.

Here is a typical christian response to the violence unleashed against them. 
Love thy enemy. No hate, no hypocrisy, no intellectual airs...Marshall 
Mendonza

Comment:
I am amazed at Santosh's wild imagination. He sees red in the most innocuous 
statement. Any sensible, objective or levelheaded person reading the above 
statement will fail to find any criticism or objectionable word against any 
religion or anyone for that matter.In fact, he misses the crux of the message 
which was in the attachment, a write up by George Menezes addressed to L K 
Advani.

May I ask Santosh whether he is allergic to the word 'christian'? As a 
christian am I banned from saying that my religion teaches me to offer my other 
cheek? Not to hate? Will Santosh kindly explain what is partisan or 
chauvinistic about this?. He too can follow the same principles. No one is 
stopping him. Also will he kindly explain in what way does such a statement 
fail to promote communal harmony?

Does applauding Gurumurthy contribute to communal harmony? Does posting the 
article by Ingrid Albuquerque calling the protest against the carnage in Orissa 
'an unnecessary furore' contribute to communal harmony? Santosh does not 
practice what he preaches. There is a word for this in the English language. It 
is called HYPOCRISY. 

Santosh apparently has formed some pre-conceived idea about me. Therefore 
anything that I post is like a red red rag to a bull for him. He just has to 
find some fault - real or imaginary.Mostly imaginary.

May I request Santosh to at least read George Menezes' article and let us 
discus that rather than indulge in this inane debate which leads nowhere.

Regards,

Marshall
 




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[Goanet] A suggestion

2008-11-03 Thread edward desilva
Hi All, This came in my mail, thought you might want to read it?
 
CHRISTMAS - 2009 I am Gerald Castelino, a Catholic from Mysore. In view of the 
recent attacks on the Catholics, I have some suggestions to make. Let us not 
act swiftly by protests for the atrocities, let us show we are Christians. I 
would like to narrate a small incident which took place during the atrocities 
which took place in Mangalore.
 
I am an Advocate by profession, I was sitting beside a middle aged Hindu 
Advocate who asked me why are the Christians not protesting in Mysore (there 
was a procession arranged but had to be cancelled because the Police did not 
give permission - its another matter again) ?
 
I just asked him one question, is it right what is done to Christians in Orissa 
and Karnataka ? He condemned the brutalities and felt very sad about the whole 
episode. I just told him, this is what we want, let the right thinking people 
know what is done is right or wrong. I further told him, Christ was prosecuted 
for having committed no crime, now Christians are prosecuted for having 
committed no crime. He was stunned !
 
He appreciated the services of Christians to India. Our silence and deeds 
should be greater protests than the processions!  Further all of us have seen 
the way the Crucifix being broken, either leg or hand of Christ is broken, all 
these churches must keep them in one place to remind the atrocities we may have 
to face.
 
Lastly, why are we celebrating Christmas this season ? Let there be no external 
celebration. When our brethren are killed and prosecuted, we celebrate it in 
grand manner ? Is it justifiedIf we keep our celebrations to Mass and 
family affair two messages would be clear...
(1) We show our solidarity and our pain to the nation in turn the world 
(2) Stop all external celebrations - save money and send to the victims. - this 
affects lots - thousands who make business, think of cakes, sweets, decorations 
and parties out of Christmas are not Christians - it will affect them secondly 
we save money to help the ones who are affected
It would be nice to do so all over India if not at least in Orissa and 
Karnataka. Hope rightful persons would think in these terms and send a strong 
peaceful message to the world.  Regards Gerald Castelino 






Re: [Goanet] Mapusa O.D.P. (Outline Development Plan)

2008-11-03 Thread floriano

Mapusa   Nagrikancho   Ekvott
Adv. Antonio Lobo (Convenor) - C-01, 1st. floor, Saldanha Business Towers, 
Feira Alta

Mapusa - Goa
Ph: (0832) 2263284

Dated: November 3, 2008



To,

To,
The Chief Minister of Goa,
Secretariat,
Porvorim-Goa.


Dear Sir,

This is to bring to your attention that despite the fact that you ordered 
the Town and Country Planning Department that the inspection of the O.D.P. 
(plan) of Mapusa should be allowed to be inspected by us as per our request 
to you when we met you, the same has not been shown.


Please order the Authorities namely, Town and Country Planning Department 
and the P.D.A., North Goa to show us the plans.


Thank you,

Yours faithfully,
for Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott
Sd/-
(Adv. Antonio J.B. Lobo)
Convenor

Inward Date: 03/Nov/08
Inward Time: 1130 hrs.


Mapusa   Nagrikancho   Ekvott
Adv. Antonio Lobo (Convenor) - C-01, 1st. floor, Saldanha Business Towers, 
Feira Alta

Mapusa - Goa
Ph: (0832) 2263284



Dated: November 3, 2008


To,

The Chief Town Planner,
Town  Country Planning Department,
Dempo Towers,
Patto - Panjim- Goa.


Sir,

We had a meeting with the Chief Minister of Goa at the Secretariat, who, at 
that time assured us that your department would allow us an inspection of 
the revised O.D.P. of Mapusa. Such inspection has not been provided to us. 
Instead, we have been given copies of reports of two sub-committees which 
make reference to a subsequent plan (copy of the original O.D.P. is with us 
which differs with the reference made by the sub-committees, and hence we 
are aware that there is another plan as suggested by those sub-committees.


We are requesting you to indicate to us where we could have an inspection of 
this revised O.D.P. Please note that in case the O.D.P. should be 
promulgated without such an inspection by this body, which is composed of 
citizens of Mapusa, you shall be entirely responsible for whatever action we 
may be to follow subsequently.


Please try to give due importance to the citizens and the public for whose 
benefit (allegedly) all such plans are being prepared and kindly, for your 
own sake do not ignore this request. Kindly indicate the date when we can 
have such an inspection within seven days of receipt of this letter, failing 
which we will be forced to meet the Chief Minister of Goa, again to inform 
him that his orders are not being obeyed.


Thank you,

Yours faithfully,
for Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott
Sd/-
(Adv. Antonio J.B. Lobo)
Convenor

Inward Date: 03/Nov/08
Inward Time: 1305 hrs.




[Goanet] REGINA FERNANDES - FIRST WOMEN TO ACT ON STAGE 22/11/1904

2008-11-03 Thread godfrey gonsalves
At the beginning of the 20th century it was indeed a Goan lady who earned the 
sungular distinction of breaking a tradition, when others would fear to tread.  
It was none other than late Regina Fernandes, a native of Raia Salcete , (the 
village of our ex Union Minister Mr Eduardo Faleiro ) the  wife of “Pai 
Tiatrist” Joao Agostinho Fernandes (in whose name the 1150 seater AC indoor 
auditorium at Ravindra Bhavan at Margao Salcete Goa has been christened )   


According to Sharmila Fernandes the grand daughter, and other members of the 
family of  “Pai tiatrist”  who spoke to this writer, at their 140 year modest  
ancestral house in Modsai , Margao  last week,  they confirmed that it was 
indeed for the first time on  22nd November, 1904 that a lady ventured to act  
on stage.  

It was a  Konkani tiatro   “Bhattkara de Panzare –I ”  staged  in  Mumbai (then 
Bombay) which  was  produced and directed by the  husband  “Pai Tiatrist” Joao 
Agostinho Fernandes (1871 –1947) of late Regina .  

The event turned out to be a red letter day in the annals of performing arts  
in Mumbai and became a subject of animated discussions -  as  until then no 
woman would dare   come on stage even in Marathi “nataks”  staged in Mumbai.  
There was indeed a stigma attached to those indulging in “zagors “ and “khells” 
as a cheap form of entertainment   and as a result was looked down by society, 
viz  well meaning citizenary., 


Having broken the tradition, later, her sister too was drawn on stage and this 
provided encouragement to others.  Many of the males who used to perform female 
roles in tiatros  were taken aback by the emerging trends of woman on stage.  
It is another matter that most of them did not last long.  Nevertheless later 
day  tiatrist like C Alvares encouraged women on stage and from then on there 
was no looking back till this date.

Unfortunately  Regina Fernandes did not live long to pursue her new found 
status .   She died  in 1906 at a relatively young age leaving behind four 
children two boys and two girls the oldest then  being 10 year and the youngest 
 just 3 years . 

But what is astonishing  that having earned such laurels for Goa and Goans 
especially the women, it is neither the tiatro fraternity nor the State 
Government that has honoured this woman till date.  

The Government of India and Goa have embarked on several measures to empower 
women with even a special  Department created  for Women and Child Affairs .  
Even the ISO rated Department of Art  Culture of Government of Goa  having an 
unique first of its kind State Cultural Policyironically ,  Government has not 
felt it  prudent to record her achievement for posterity on any of its 
documents.


When this writer spoke to some senior tiatrists notably Mr Wilmix Wilson 
Mazarello who has authored several books  notable amongst them “100 
years of Konkani teatro “ funded by the Directorate of Art and Culture 
Government of  Goa , with valid inputs from another senior tiatrist, journalist 
Mr John Gomes (Kokoy) which book indeed could be considered as the Bible of 
Konkani tatro --- on the need  to  recognize the role of Regina, even though 
posthumously ,  he agreed that due recognition was not given to her and felt 
that the Government should note her achievements. Obviously it  is not too late 
 even after 104 years of that eventful day 22nd November, 1904 to recognize her 
achievements. 

Another senior tiatrist John Gomes (Kokoy ) a recepient of several awards  who 
spoke to this writer also agreed that it is necessary to remember the role 
played by Regina Fernandes and was forthcoming to hold any event   on 22nd 
November, 2008. He assured his full co-operation in the event any one comes 
forward to commemorate the event on 22.11.2008.  He was also receptive to the 
idea that the tiatro fraternity themselves moreso  the women  could contribute 
to  institute a  cash award of Rs. 5000/- and a momento bearing a citation  to 
be given to the  best upcoming  female on Konkani stage beginning this year.  
He reiterated his association with the family of Pai Tiatrist and indeed also 
confirmed that his compilation of tiatrists of yesteryears is scheduled for 
release on 2nd December, 2008 when he completes 71 years of age.


Given the significance of the stellar  role played by  Ms. Regina Fernandes it 
is now left to be seen  how the Government of Goa the tiatrists and especially 
some of the  women presently performing on Konkani stage  viz;  Lorna Cordeiro, 
 (Saligao )   Rita Rose (Mahim) Sharon Mazarello (Fatorda )  Fatima D Souza 
(Fatorda )  Felcy Fernandes (Vasco-da-Gama) Irene Cardozo (Candolim) just to 
name a few   would  respond to commemorate her achievement this   22nd 
November, 2008.   

One suggestion that came accross to this writer from a veteran tiatro lover a 
septugenarian from Loutlolim who spoke to this writer at the Goman Vidya 
Niketan Hall on Sunday as she was leaving the hall was that the 

[Goanet] More Voodoo discussions - to Gilbert and Jose

2008-11-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:35:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Starting a new thread and writing a long post was a pretty tortuous way 
 of telling me you decline my suggestion?that you write a book responding 
 to Joe Conason.? As you well know, Joe's book BIG LIES - The
Right-wing 
 propaganda Machine and how it Distorts the Truth was in rebuttal to 
 books like Bias and Slander written by the authors
you mentioned.? 
 
Mario responds:

Yes, I decline to waste my time reading anything that Joe Conason has written. 
I have more credibility in the authors of Bias and Slander than in Joe Conason,
who is on the same side of the political spectrum as Michael Moore.

You can believe whomever you want to.

Gilbert wrote:

 You also did not respond to my question, so I will repeat. 

Mario responds:

I will respond to your question after you complete your assignments as detailed
in the original [Goanet] More voodoo discussions.

Until then it would be a waste of my time to discuss macro economics with
someone who hasn't the foggiest idea of basic economics, just as it would be
for you to discuss with some non-physician the benefits of using homeopathy
rather than allopathy.

BTW, there is a Dr. Leo Rebello in Mumbai who occasionally writes on Goanet,
who will tell you that all allopathic doctors are charlatans.  Here is an
example of his theories:

http://www.indmedica.com/journals.php?journalid=3issueid=59articleid=743action=article

This is his opening sentence, AIDS is the greatest myth of our times1. In
spite of voluminous evidence which shows that HIV is not AIDS2, the myth
is kept deliberately going so that many multi-trillion dollar industries keep
prospering

Far better for you to discuss with Dr. Leo that AIDS is the greatest myth
of our times than to try and use your lack of knowledge of economics to
make whatever voodoo economic point you seem to be interested in.

Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:48:20 -0500
From: J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I see no grounds for the our expectation that anybody else (Mario 
 included) should be  moral in partisan political matters.
There is
 very little in the practice of politics (in Goa or elsewhere) which
 can be classified as moral.

 Never mind the lofty spiel!
 
Mario responds:

Jose,

This is a pretty cynical and grossly simplified and generalized view that
indicates contempt for the political process in a democracy.

Since you chose to use me personally as an example of your gross generalities
about politics, could you cite some specific examples of something I have
written that would illustrate whatever you are alleging?

Perhaps Gilbert can do the same as well if he is alleging anything more than
that I am deserving of sainthood:-))

Thank you in advance.





[Goanet] Who are the fools fooling?

2008-11-03 Thread tony martin
Extract from the Times of India Report
However, an official states that this trend does not indicate an
overwhelming preference for English medium schools. The official said,
Most students of government primary schools are children of migrants.
As these migrant families move to other places or even out of the
state, the schools find themselves without students.

The self-defeating statement above raises a lot of questions worth
raising but not worth asking the officials.
It is best to be happy with the joke that the Konkani medium schools
are primarily for the children of migrants!




--
Tony Martin
Freelance Writer, Author
Dubai, UAE


[Goanet] India's top 10 firms lose Rs 3.17tn in Oct

2008-11-03 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

His message is in reply to Message: 3, dated: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 ,From: Gabe
Menezes under subject titled as in above. 

Gabe Menezes wrote: .. actually she (Gabe means Sonia)  was an Oxbridge
graduate . you katore bajee..

My response: Gabe why don't you do some study on factuality. I still stay
she is not Oxbridge graduate. re-check for your self. Till date I am not
aware of any graduate degree being confirmed to her by any university. 

More over the information published in India by Congress party only says -
In 1964, she went to study English at The Bell Educational Trust's language
school in the city of Cambridge. While enrolled in this certificate course
she met Rajiv Gandhi, who was enrolled at the time in Trinity College at the
University of Cambridge. She got married to Rajiv Gandhi in 1968. And if you
still have evidence that she is graduate please ask Congress in India to up
date their records. 

Gabe, bajee katorpak time laglyar kotak yet put tu kartorta ti bajee sarki
kator. 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad





[Goanet] My Goa trip

2008-11-03 Thread Samir Kelekar
Just back from a 4 day very invigorating Goa trip.

First the good thing --- there is still no better place for a susegad life
than Goa on this earth. It is still the best place for relaxation, and great 
fish and of course drinks.

I attended two back to back press conferences --- one of Venita Coelho, and the 
other of Aires Rodrigues. Both were super.

Now the bad thing --- corruption has become too deep rooted in Goa. I am told 
everyone asks for 10% cut for everything.

Aires needs kudos for what he is doing. I think one great thing he has done is 
remove the fear out of people. I expect more and more people to
come out to fight for their rights.

However, more dangerous than fear is temptations. I am told that the 
powers-that-be might offer you 5% and they take 5% if they find that
you are out to expose them. 

Now how is that for a deal ? 

Those who are NRIs or NRGs can't do a sh*t for Goa sitting abroad.
Goa needs 105% for any change to be done. Yes, NRGs can send some
moeny, because that is impossible to make in Goa by following the right ways.

regards,
Samir





  


[Goanet] It's the economy, stupid !!!

2008-11-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:22:39 +
From: Jim Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just ask yourself two basic questions:
 
 1. Am I better off today (in Bush years), or was I better off during the 
 Clinton years?

 2. Is the US better off today or was it better off during the Clinton 
 years?

 As far as I am concerned, there's no question that the Republican party 
 (along with the Texas Oil Mafia) screwed up this country big time in the 
 last eight years. I am hopeful that Barack and his Democratic party 
 would change the course of this nation, for a better America and for a 
 peaceful world.

Mario responds:

Jim,

I wish you wouldn't go around calling people stupid while living in what may 
be a glass house.

You say, ...there's no question...?  Of course there is a question, if you 
use cold facts and not pure emotion. To begin with there is no such thing as a 
Texas oil mafia.  Perhaps you are unaware that it is the Democrats that have 
blocked all new oil exploration and drilling in and around the continental USA, 
have opposed new oil refineries from being built since 1976, have opposed coal 
fired power plants, have opposed oil shale mining, have opposed building new 
nuclear power plants.

In addition, the US economy grew for seven of the last eight years after 
Clinton left office and handed Bush an economic slowdown, and had weakened our 
defense and intelligence capabilities which enabled 9/11 to take place.

It also depends on which facts are important to you.

Bill Clinton's first budget proposal in 1993 showed $200 BILLION in deficits 
for every year in the budget period, which proves he had no clue as to how to 
control deficits, even with his increased taxes.

He was bailed out by a) the revolution in computer and communications 
technology and the dot.com phenomenon, which the government had nothing to do 
with, and b) The Contract with America when the Republicans took control of 
both houses of Congress and implemented balanced budget proposals after the 
debacle of Hillary Clinton's health care proposals.

By the end of the Clinton presidency the economy was in decline leaving 
President Bush with a recession to deal with.

In addition, the Clinton presidency, by failing to respond to the series of 
attacks on the US and US interests throughout the 90's emboldened Osama Bin 
Laden to ostentatiously declare was on the US, and call the US a weak horse 
who would be unable to defend itself against Al Qaeda, which he called the 
strong horse.

The Clinton administration also refused to take Bin Laden after he was offered 
up by Sudan THREE times, because Clinton said he did not have legal probable 
cause to hold him even though Bin Laden had taken credit for several attacks by 
then.  This has been documented by Pakistani businessman and the go-between, 
Mansoor Ijaz.

The Clinton administration also refused to give the CIA permission to shoot 
when they had Bin Laden in their sights in Afghanistan THIRTEEN times.  This 
has been documented by the CIA agent in charge of the operation, Michael 
Scheuer.

The Clinton administration also banned the CIA and FBI from sharing information 
on terrorist movements and banned the CIA from gathering information from 
people they considered unsavory characters.

All this led directly to the attack on 9/11/2001 right in your backyard in NY.  
I doubt you or anyone else on 9/15/2001 believed that Al Qaeda would not attack 
the US again, but they have been unable to do so now for over seven years, 
mainly because the Clintons and the Democrats were no longer running the 
country in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.

After the Bush tax rate cuts in 2002 - 2003 the US economy had seven years of 
moderate growth with low inflation, until the house of cards that Jimmy Carter 
and Bill Clinton had built by forcing the banks to lower lending standards in 
order to spread the wealth to low income Americans who would normally rent 
their houses, came tumbling down bringing the stock market with it.

This may be a good point to remind readers that the financial mess extends to 
several major countries in Europe and the Far East, which have far more 
stringent controls over their economies, which has led to a resurgence in the 
value of the US$.

Jim Fernandes wrote:

We need to end this stupid war in Iraq quickly and raise taxes on the rich. If 
Obama wins, these two things are guaranteed to happen.

Please take a moment and check out what the below graph tells you:

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

Mario responds:

The war was only stupid from the point of view of a small number of Islamic 
radicals in Afghanistan and Iraq, and their allies in Syria and Iran, and from 
the point of view of political critics of America.  It was hardly stupid from 
the point of view of the 50 million Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq who were 
previously brutalized by Muslim tyrants, and now have a real chance at freedom 
and democracy.

If not for the radicals they would have been 

[Goanet] How India is affected by US policies

2008-11-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:34:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Indian economy does not depend on handouts from the USA.

Mario responds:

The USA does not provide the Indian economy with handouts.  It provides the 
Indian economy with a significant amount of business for India's goods and 
services, which would be sharply reduced if Obama wins and carries out his 
threats to raise taxes and federal spending and introduces trade protectionism 
to compensate the labor unions that supported him.

Mervyn wrote:

The Indian economy now runs on the expertise of private entrepreneurs who are 
more than capable of adjusting to decreases in demand from?any sector.

Mario responds:

Decreases in demand slow the growth of an economy, whether their businesses 
adjust to them or not.  Furthermore, there is a negative ripple effect on the 
entire economy from the adjustment.

Mervyn wrote:

In additional, the bigger Indian companies are now buying companies in?Europe 
and N. America to secure their markets.  If anything, the USA should be more 
concerned that US companies will become branch offices of Indian companies, 
depriving the US of corporate HQ taxes.

Mario responds:

If you were familiar with the US system you would know that the US has never 
been concerned about the ownership of companies that operate in the US.  That 
is part of its contribution to the world.

If you were familiar with the US tax system you would know that anyone who 
operates in the US pays income taxes on the net profits of their US operations, 
regardless of where they are HQ.  There are no special HQ taxes in the US.

Mervyn wrote:

As far as the elections in the US are concerned. I am now willing to bet Obama 
will win the perfect trifecta i.e.:
1) the Presidency
2) majority in Congress 
3) 60 seats in the Senate.

Mario responds:

We will find out soon enough.  In 2004 John Kerry was leading in the polls by 6 
to 8% ON ELECTION DAY.  By the time all the actual votes were counted, Bush had 
won by 3%.

The good news if you are correct is that no one will be able to dilute or 
obfuscate who is to get credit or blame for the results we will see in the near 
future.






[Goanet] song with mog

2008-11-03 Thread JANE ALPHONSO


MHOZO POTTI BOMBOI GUELLA
 
Mhoozo potti Bombai guela,
Tacho uskho mhaka zala
Ani nimanne rhattri sopeacher bosson,(bis)
BEIJO MHAKA DHILLA ...(BIS)
 
 
Ch potti hie, potti hie,
Ani ghopan mhaka ghue.
 
 
2. Jiv ho thukach axetta,
Beguim bomboi vhor-re mhaka,
Khalliz hem mhojea addean rotta,
Ghoppan raucheak moga.
 
ch
 
3.Mhojea potti-xim vettelim,
Akhem voros-bhor rautelim,
Ani dhogam assam tim tegham zatoch,
Khoxen ghara hettelIM.
 
CH.
 
 

 
 
 SANGAT MOGA TUZO
 
1. Sangatu moga tuzo,
Sukh, sontos mujea jivaku,
Kuddint otmo astona muzo,
Mogu visrum re tuzo
 
ch. Portugalak vetai-re ixtta,
mogacheank sanddunaka.
 
 
2. Dispididachea amchea vellar,
koslo akant amcher ailo,
kobar zalo amkam dislo,
Sasnnak otmo kuddintulo,
 
3. Vorsanchi amizadu-re amchi,
zaunchi-re sasnnachi,
Devachem besanv magtanv-re tujeri,
Orasanvam korunu.
 
4. Tum oicheak oita-re ixtta, nangor ubharilo,
Oita disolo jiv mhuje kuddintlo,
Choi, choi, choi mhoje dolle,
Tujea mogan roddun suzole.
 
 
 

 
 
ADEUS KORCHEA VELLAR
 
1. Adeus korcho vellu paulo,
Ai mhojem, kalliz-re fafsota
Dispidiru korchea vellar,
Ho sonvsar naka so disota,(bis)
 
chorus
Vochu voch-re, roddu naka,
Devu feliz kortolo tuka,
 
 
2. Forsan Adeus tuka kortam,
Fugar zavn, dukam-re gholloitam
Itlem martir hanv bhogitam,
Ankvarponn tukach-re bhettoitam, (bis)

 ***
 









[Goanet] Things to watch out for

2008-11-03 Thread Philip Thomas
'Make the new airports more user-friendly' Ashwini Phadnis 
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/11/03/stories/2008110350980600.htm
The Parliamentary Standing Committee on Transport, Tourism and Culture, in 
its report on the functioning of private airports and related issues, has 
found certain areas that need immediate attention, including the fact that 
passengers at greenfield airports have to pay exorbitant prices for food 
items...Besides there is no canteen for the employees and staff working at 
these airports, ... The Committee has not only mentioned that the parking 
charges for vehicles are heavy at these airports, but also expressed 
surprise at finding that, at Hyderabad, a vehicle entering the airport to 
drop or pick up a passenger has to pay Rs 35 per tripThe Committee is 
also of the considered view that the HAL and Begumpet airports be made 
operational for domestic civil aviation. 



[Goanet] Video clip 'Exchange Offer' with pics - Esha Deol Om Puri

2008-11-03 Thread JoeGoaUk
Video clip  More Pics: 'Exchange Offer'

Esha Deol d/o Hema Malini  Dharmendra also seen

Video Clip
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=N3TpXWVVGCY


More Pics


Om Puri
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk15/2999498979/


Tinu anand   Esha Deol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk15/3000338218/

another (Esha Deol)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk15/3000337510/



[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/   
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Re: [Goanet] It's the economy, stupid !!!

2008-11-03 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Bosco D'Mello wrote:
  Better off in the Bush years. Got out before the earth opened-up. 
 Your tips from Wall St were a No-Show.


Bosco,
I guess you are happy because you got out in time.
The people who are REALLY happy are those that shorted the markets betting
that the financial situation is so bad that it could only get worse.
These shorters are still having a ball.



 You know what Mario says..first Barack has to win this week. 
 I had to say itbefore he says it again for the nth time.

 
I have in my hand, an invitation for an Obama victory party, in Kisumu, Kenya.
Goans there and those who used to be there will be rejoicing the entire year.
 
 
Indonesia will have similar parties.
 
 
In Chicago, there is going to be dancing in the streets, a million people 
dancing.
The Mayor of Chicago is now requesting people not to turn up for the party.
 
 
In Toronto, the party is at my place. 
Starts Tuesday morning, runs over to the weekend.
 
 
Mervyn3.0


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Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter

2008-11-03 Thread Mervyn Lobo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Santosh does not practice what he preaches. 
 There is a word for this in the English language. It is called HYPOCRISY. 


marshall,
Whether you realize this or not, you have lowered yourself down to the level 
of personal insults. In my experience, this usually happens when one does not 
have an argument or when one is losing an argument. Further more, Santosh has 
been on this forum for more than a decade and there is never been a time when 
he has not practised what he says. Not once.
 

 Santosh apparently has formed some pre-conceived idea about me. 
 Therefore anything that I post is like a red red rag to a bull for him. 
 He just has to find some fault - real or imaginary. Mostly imaginary.


Since members of this group are so widely scattered, the reputation one 
developes is derived solely from the material that you post here. Sadly, from 
your posts here, my impression is that you are more of a bridge burner rather 
than a bridge builder. 
 
And Goa has enough of bridge burners.

 
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[Goanet] Goa news for November 4, 2008

2008-11-03 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** I-League:Sporting Clube de Goa Edge Past Chirag United -
Goal.com
[Nov 1, 2008]  Sporting Clube de Goa remained on top of the
I-League table after their hard fought 1-0 win over Chirag
United at the Yuba Bharati Krirangan,Kolkata. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=943367cid=1265118013ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNHHV0firoQAp_cXoxaDJs0oJ2tX4A

*** Goa cops launch manhunt for minister\'s son - Sify
[8 hours ago]  Panaji: The Goa police on Monday launched a
manhunt and issued fresh summons for Goa Education Minister
Antanasio Monserratte's son Rohit, who is wanted for ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14789836cid=1265403167ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNEZQjbbyj5E-jmQ3A1G41_9cTHYgQ

*** Kotak Securities keeps BUY on Sesa Goa - Livemint
[17 hours ago]  For Sesa Goa, iron ore fines constitutes more
than 85% of the volumes while remaining sales is for lump grade
ore wherein the sales are more in domestic ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.livemint.com/2008/11/03113612/Kotak-Securities-keeps-BUY-on.htmlcid=1266205207ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNFWUEQxj0S7wd0U8DgZLeMCNlDozA

*** Two FTII ex-students films to be screened in Goa - Times of
India
[Nov 2, 2008]  ... (FTII) are all set to make a cinematic
statement at the forthcoming Indian International Film Festival
(IFFI) 2008 to be held in Goa later this month. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pune/Two_FTII_ex-students_films_to_be_screened_in_Goa/articleshow/3666493.cmscid=1266034479ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNH3bS_J8lzJSb6pKJmopJN1811o-Q

*** Vatsal Sheth headed to Goa - KalingaTimes
[8 hours ago]  He is now heading toward Goa , the land of sun
and sea to shoot for two films back to back. On asking Vatsal,
he says As an actor and person I am humbled ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.kalingatimes.com/bollywood/20081103_Vatsal_Sheth_headed_to_Goa.htmcid=0ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNHRRlAvlw5mj91wF4Z1nyj-xY6HKw

*** New export duty on iron ore fines leaves Goa mining
industry shaken - Hindu Business Line
[Nov 1, 2008]  1 Already reeling under the pressure of
worldwide recession, coupled with an unstable rupee-value, the
Goan mining industry in the private sector feels ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/11/02/stories/2008110250560500.htmcid=1265526921ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNFp-3BORmZ0H2FmZrHLfpB1yU-lKg

*** Rajanikanths #152;Robot shoots in Goa - NonstopCinema.com
[14 hours ago]  Presently the film is being shot in Goa. It is
reliably learnt that mobile jammers were set up in the shooting
location in view of the leakage of some ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.nonstopcinema.com/nsc/headlines/news_content.php?fileName=728cid=0ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNGxBCUbUDxW4cQgA90z1FaVEEOlrA

*** Goan maids in Kuwait complain of harassment - Times of
India
[Nov 2, 2008]  PANAJI: Goan maids employed by Kuwaiti families
have complained against the rise in harassment by their sponsors
and have also claimed that they are ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goan_maids_in_Kuwait_complain_of_harassment/articleshow/3666456.cmscid=1266130939ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNG3SvqdpWukUi1a6eS41rfKx4FSXQ

*** Digamber Jains organize religious meet - Times of India
[1 hour ago]  The Digamber sect of the Jain community in Goa
recently organised a one-day religious meet at Mugali-Davarli
near Margao. It was attended by members of the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Digamber_Jains_organize_religious_meet/articleshow/3670602.cmscid=0ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNE7fO2KkU6H6o9qgVfTju1bHUWH5Q

*** Goa gets a taste of Mumbai! - Times of India
[17 hours ago]  What were the likes of GautamSinghania,
designers Malini Ramani, Tarun Tahiliani and Manoviraj Khosla
and Aditi Govitrikar doing in Goa last week? ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Goa_gets_a_taste_of_Mumbai/articleshow/3665151.cmscid=0ei=ipcPSc7fGp_6gwPw4t2VDgusg=AFQjCNHY4BkFYJZkFLuK0f4k2wIzUgDBtg


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] VOA News - Australia Sets Up New Tsunami Warning System

2008-11-03 Thread Ruby Goes
Goanetters,
THIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR THE REGION.
rubygoes




http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-11-03-voa11.cfm



[Goanet] PORTUGAL: Angolagate Bribes in Local Banks (Inter-Press Service)

2008-11-03 Thread Goanet News
PORTUGAL:  Angolagate Bribes in Local Banks
By Mario de Queiroz

LISBON, Nov 3 (IPS) - Portuguese banks that received transfers of
money to Angolan politicians implicated in illegal arms sales have
kept mum after the Lisbon paper Público reported their involvement.

The Banco de Portugal, the country's central bank, has remained
silent, and the banks mentioned by the newspaper declined to comment
in response to queries from IPS Monday, invoking the law on bank
secrecy.

Público Journalist Ana Dias Cordeiro, an expert on African affairs,
reported on Oct. 31 that more than 21 million dollars received by
high-level officials of the regime in Luanda as a result of the
illicit sales of arms from Russia to Angola passed through Portuguese
banks.

The information on which the article was based is contained in a list
of bank transfers that form part of the evidence in the trial over the
scandal dubbed Angolagate.

The trial, in which 42 defendants, including former senior French
officials and members of that country's elite, are facing a range of
charges related to illegal arms sales, opened in Paris on Oct. 6.

The case, in which no Angolan has been charged, is focusing on 790
million dollars of war materiel sold to Angola despite an arms embargo
against that country, including 450 armoured vehicles, six warships,
12 helicopters, 150,000 howitzers and 170,000 land-mines.

But it is estimated that between 1993 and 2000, Russia's illegal
weapons sales to Angola amounted to a total of four billion dollars.

Público cites a document by investigating Judge Philippe Courroye --
in the Paris courtroom presided over by Magistrate Jean-Baptiste
Parlos -- who lists 54 million dollars in bank transfers to the
accounts of senior officials and close associates of the Angolan
government -- allegedly kickbacks for illegal arms sales paid out
during that seven-year period.

Of the 70 transfers totaling 54 billion dollars in illegal
commissions, 50 of them --involving 21 million dollars -- appear to
have been deposited in Portuguese banks.

The largest sums went to the state-run Caixa Geral de Depósitos (CGD)
and the Banco Comercial Portugués (BCP), the country's two largest
banks.

The Nacional de Crédito, Nacional Ultramarino (since absorbed by the
CGD), Comercio e Industria, Totta  Açores, Pinto  Sotto Mayor (which
forms part of the BCP) banks and the Portuguese branches of Spain's
Banco Bilbao Vizcaya and Britain's Barclays are also on the list of
financial institutions contained in the indictment.

The beneficiaries of the payments are led by Angolan President José
Eduardo dos Santos himself, who allegedly received five million
dollars, while another 10 million went into the account of former
Angolan ambassador to France Elísio de Figueiredo. Other recipients of
sums that were not revealed are former cabinet secretary José Leitão,
his wife, and his son, according to the list.

Among the Angolan senior armed forces officers implicated in the
scandal are generals Fernando Araújo, Salviano Sequeira and Carlos
Alberto Hendrick Vaal Neto, who is now in the diamond business, and
Fernando Miala, former head of the secret services, who was sacked by
dos Santos in February 2006 and has been in prison since last year.

The transfers were allegedly ordered by businessman Pierre Falcone
from different bank accounts in his company, Brenco Trading Limited.

The defendants in Angolagate are accused of forming a vast network of
middlemen and influence peddlers in the 1990s, when Angola was facing
an international arms embargo due to the civil war that broke out in
1975, shortly after Portuguese colonial rule came to an end.

Some of the most prominent French defendants on trial include former
interior minister Charles Pasqua (1993-1995), who is now 81, his
closest associate, Jean-Charles Marchiani, the son of late French
president François Mitterrand (1981-1995), Jean-Christophe Mitterrand,
and former presidential adviser Jacques Attali.

Falcone and Russian-born Israeli billionaire Arcadi Gaydamak, who has
taken refuge in Israel -- which does not extradite its citizens -- are
also accused of arms trafficking.

The charges of illegal weapons deals, embezzlement, tax evasion and
influence peddling are punishable by sentences of between five and 10
years. The verdict is due on Mar. 4, 2009.

The indictment, leaked to the Público newspaper, also states that an
unidentified key witness said ambassador Figueiredo was the
personal representative of the president and the person in charge of
his secret financial operations in the Banque Internationale à
Luxembourg and the Israel Discount Bank in Switzerland.

In the trial, Falcone testified that a state commission of more than
40 million dollars was paid to Angola through completely official
channels.

Judge Courroye responded that cash transfers to the Angolan state
were not found in the records of the accounts indicated by Pierre
Falcone, although several transfers to members of or persons close 

[Goanet] Request for two of Bakibab's poems

2008-11-03 Thread Sandeep Heble
Hi Venantius,

Tamastotra is published in Bakibab's last poem collection book Chinmayee.

Mahatmayan has not been published in any book as yet.

cheers
Sandeep


Would someone be kind enough to post two of Balakrishna Bhagwant Borkar's
(Baki-baab/bab) long poems, Mahatmayan and Tamastotra? Or direct me to 
books in which these poems exist.In appreciation.
Venantius


[Goanet] Goanet Oct. Stats: Top 27 makes 80% of the total posts

2008-11-03 Thread Philip Thomas

readers on Goanet lists ... are often in read-only mode. FN

Any Goanet statistics on which this observation is based?  Cheers.


[Goanet] Re.: BARACK OBAMA WILL MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT

2008-11-03 Thread Ruby Goes
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2008/20081103_ohio/interviews.htm

GOOD MORNING AMERICA.
Attn. Mario, Bosco, Gabe,Viviana and Mervyn.
A great report from Ohio.I watched it last night. PLEASE WATCH.

Today's the day.
HAPPY VOTING DAY AND BEYOND GOAN AMERICANS.
LONG LIVE DEMOCRACY.

Thanks

RubyGoes




Re: [Goanet] mhozo potti bomboi guella

2008-11-03 Thread JANE ALPHONSO
Hi Joe Thanks for your input but you forgot to write GOA so this one is for you 
Joe mhozo potti Goa guella. Joe please keep up the good work mog to all from 
jjandson..
..



 









[Goanet] Goanet Greetings Nov 3rd - Thanks!

2008-11-03 Thread Silviano Barbosa





Hello mhojea ishpeshial Goanett-karranno!

 

Thank you very much for your kind wishes on my birthday.

You are always there for me.

I know I can count on you:

Ek don, tin, char, panch, sou, sat.

That’s all many friends I have left in this world?

(Arre, who do you think you are? Obama of goanet-u? Count your blessings that 
at least 7 out of 6000 Goanetters emailed you. No body sent me
anything.[Who is this?] )

But that’s enough for me. I appreciate Quality.

Who needs flowers after one is dead, when you can’t smell them?

So pour out your hearty emails to me. I love them when I am
alive.

VIVA GOA and NIZ GOEMKAR! Jivak borem dislem tumcheo e-mail vachun! But still 
not one email from femail.



So I personally thank 

GOANET GREETINGS

BOSCO DE MELLO

FRANCIS RODRIGUES (Thanks for resurrecting that 2 year –old Feppi
Boddei email.)

FREDERIC NORONHA

EDDIE VERDES (Thanks for the 2 lovely Happy Birthday songs)

JOEGOAUK ( Mono)

LINO DOURADO

ISIDORE DANTAS

(All capitalists in my little world)

BTW guys when is your birthday so I can wish you guys too
separately.

Maka atam sanglear atanch ugddas uronam ani tumche
birthday-acho maka ugdass urta?

 

And I also thank all other goanetters who wished me silently and
remotely without using their keyboard. 

Silviano Barbosa, Nov 3rd, 2008 ( Next year 60, if still alive)Faleanche faleam 
pollounchem. Aiz kopachem marya ani borem jev-yea. To hell with cholesterol, 
high pressure, political pressure or atmospheric temperature, etc.VIVA! (ahh, 
ahh)



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[Goanet] An Open Letter

2008-11-03 Thread marshallmendonza
Mervyn,

Thank you for your message. I am doubtful whether you have gone through all the 
exchanges with Santosh before posting this message. Otherwise you would have 
thought twice before saying what you did. Sometimes our personal equations take 
precedence over objectivity. Santosh is not the only one with a reputation. 
Others have one too. And it takes two hands to clap. Building anything requires 
effort. Destroying is easy.

I do not wish to enter into another discussion pointing out the flaws in 
Santosh's or your post as I am aware where they come from. But rest assured, I 
am here to contribute positively and constructively.

Regards,

Marshall 


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[Goanet] Why Obama will a good President of USA

2008-11-03 Thread edward desilva
Hi All,
Those who think want to feel what it is to be in USA now read what the BBC 
correspondents has to say:
Matthew Price. 3 Nov 08, 04:37 AM GMT 
What may not be obvious to some people, especially many of those reading this 
from outside the borders of the US, is how strongly many here feel about the 
possibility of an Obama presidency.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/matthewprice/2008/11/too_european.html
--
Gavin Hewitt 3 Nov 08, 04:45 GMT 
They were there not to be persuaded or convinced. They were there to celebrate 
their man.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/
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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (4Nov08)

2008-11-03 Thread alexyz fernandes

PMC faces Garbage Disposal Problem

We're living in the Age of Computers, Solar Energy, IFFIand the PMC is 
still discussing Garbage!



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Re: [Goanet] An Open Letter to L K Advani by George Menezes

2008-11-03 Thread Nasci Caldeira
 Dear Santosh,
 Tum kitea mhunta rea? read below.
 
 --- On Sun, 2/11/08, Santosh Helekar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Here is a typical christian response to the
 violence
   unleashed against them. Love thy enemy. No hate,
 no
   hypocrisy, no intellectual airs.
 
   From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  How are typical Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain,
 Parsi
  or other non-Christian responses different from this?
  Santosh
 
 Nascy Caldeira: (to Santosh and others like him)

 Santosh, what do U think? Give us your frank opinion and
 solutions that work; on the violence and absence of law and
 order; taking the law into one's own hands; acting as
 prosecutor, judge and 'goonda'. 
 Is this the Hindu style and perception? Is this why U felt
 shame and turned into an (self declared) agnostic Hindu?  
 
 Determined communal, fascist persons and groups do respond
 differently, from the way George Menezes has responded. U
 should be enlightened by him.
 Are U looking for 'scientific proof? perhaps?
 Give up your sly defence of these atrocities; and for once
 speak and act openly against these. The way U are going,
 appears to me, as being apologetic towards these goonda
 perpetrators.
 
 I repeat again, my old advice to you: Become Christian and
 immediately U will have been 'Enlightened'!!! Your
 perception of everything even 'God' will change, for
 everybody's good! Try it, I challenge you. U will then
 be of greater service to mankind rather than just the
 scientific field. 
 
 Cheers!
 Nascy Caldeira
 Down Under.



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[Goanet] Aping each other

2008-11-03 Thread marshallmendonza
Here is an interesting article on how hinduism is being hijacked by hindutva. 
Read on.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Editorial/Opinion_Aping_each_other/articleshow/3670047.cms

Regards,

Marshall


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[Goanet] CHESS: Goan girls bag team medals

2008-11-03 Thread Goanet Sports

Goan girls bag team medals

All the three Goan girls - Riya Sawant, Ivana Furtado and Bhakti Kulkarni - 
participating in the World Youth Chess Championships helped the country to 
bag team medals just as India dominated proceedings on the final day of the 
toughly contested tournament.


In the Girls Under 8 Section, Riya Sawant  helped the Indian team to edge 
out hosts Vietnam to clinch the Gold Medal in the team event. India and 
Vietnam both finished on and identical tally of points, but India got the 
Gold via a superior  tiebreak. The United States of America got the Bronze 
in this section. Riya finished 10th in her section which is great 
considering that she finished fourth in Asian Youth in Iran earlier this 
year.


In the Under 10 Girls section, Double World Under 8 Girls Champion Ivana's 
smart recovery towards the end of the tournament helped India to bag the 
Gold medal just inching out narrowly hosts Vietnam. The Woman Candidate 
Master was in her elements as she beat Russian Ayna Egorova in the last 
round and she herself finished 11th in the individual section. Ivana may 
have set a record of sorts as she won her third Gold in WYCC and she has one 
in each of the three Championships - Batumi, Antalya and Vung Tau!


In the Under 16 Girls Section, National Junior Girls Champion Bhakti 
Kulkarni aided India to bag the Silver again behind hosts Vietnam by a 
margin of 1.5 points. Austria bagged the Bronze medal in this section. The 
coach of the three players Dronacharya Awardee  Raghunandan Gokhale 
expressed satisfaction with the outcome and said that in the coming years 
the trio will 'win many more laurels for the country and Goa'.


In the Individual events, India also put up an excellent show. Padmini Rout 
(Girls Under 14), Sayantan Das (Boys Under 12), Vidit Gujarathi (Boys Under 
14)
and B. Adhiban (Boys Under 16) all won the Gold Medals in their respective 
categories. Incidentally all four Gold  Medallists participated in the 
National 'B' Championships which were conducted last month in Zambaulim, 
Goa.



Final Medals Tally

India 4-2-2 (Ind) 8-1-2 (Team) 12-3-4 (Total)
Vietnam 1-1-0   3-4-3   4-5-3
Croatia 2-0-00-0-1   2-0-1

SOURCE: Sameer A. Salgaocar - President - Goa State Chess Association; Vice 
President - All India Chess Federation




Re: [Goanet] It's the economy, stupid !!!

2008-11-03 Thread Chris Vaz


 I expect the current US elections to be a non-event. Its a foregone 
conclusion that the grand old elephant would collapse with its own weight. 
Its a good feeling to know that my horse ...  errr ... the donkey is in top 
form - sleek, agile and ofcourse packed with a high powered delivery system.


Chris comments:   If Jim had taken the trouble to do a little 
research -- and be less judgmental -- he would have discovered that George 
Bush had inherited an economy in recession..  Through the introduction of 
the two tax cuts the economy recovered and the country prospered through his 
presidency, with the exception of the current year.  Annual GDP was in 
excess of  3%, which is considered excellent for a country like the US, with 
a developed economy. Unemployment was at 5%, the lowest in decades. Interest 
rates were also low.  I have a sneaking suspicion that Mario will have more 
to say on this subject, in his inimitable fashion, but let us lay the blame 
for the current malaise where it rightfully belongs -- on the Democrats, who 
brought on the current fiscal mess.  It will take a little explanation, but 
here in brief, is the timeline:


In 1977, Jimmy Carter, pressed by grassroots organizations, signed the 
Community Reinvestment Act to boost home ownership in poorer communities, by 
making home loans affordableregardless of the borrowers' ability to repay 
the loans..


In the 1990s community organiser Barack Obama worked closely with ACORN 
activists, employing intimidation tactics of radical activist Saul Alinsky. 
These activists crowded bank offices, blocked drive-up teller lanes and 
demonstrated at the homes of bankers to browbeat them into lending to poor 
and minority communities.  Those banks who resisted were accused of racism 
In fact, BO was co-plaintiff with Acorn in a discrimination lawsuit against 
Citibank.  Rep Jim Leach warned about the impending damage that nonregulated 
GSEs (Govt Service Enterprises) posed.  He worried that Freddie Mac and 
Fannie Mae would be transforming these agencies into money machines for the 
stockholding few.  Rep Barney Frank, the then and current chairman of the 
Financial Services Committee, countered that the agencies served a public 
purpose..


In 1994 Bill Clinton exacerbated the situation, addressing the housing issue 
thus:  I am committed to an unprecedented partnership between industry and 
community leaders and government to recommit our nation to the idea of home 
ownership and to create more homeowners than ever before. .


In 1995 Republicans won control of Congress and planned reform of the CRA. 
The Clinton admin aligned with Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy and Maxine Waters 
(D-Cal) and did an end around and directed then HUD Secy to inject GSEs into 
the subprime market.  Cuomo said GSE presence in the subprime market could 
be of significant benefit to lower income families, minorities and families 
living in underserved areas.  In 1998, by falsifying signatures on Fannie 
Mae transactions, $200 million was transferred to later periods, triggering 
$27 million in bonuses to top FAnnie Mae executives.  Treasury Secy Larry 
Summers issued this warning: Debates about systemic risk should also 
include GSEs, which are large, and growing rapidly...  Disregarding 
warnings, and under pressure from the Clinton admin, Fannie Mae eased credit 
requirements on loans it would purchase from lenders, making it easier for 
lending to borrowers unqualified for conventional loans.  NINJA (No Income, 
Job verification or Assets) loans became the rule rather than the exception.


In 2000 the Senate Banking Committee noted that as a result of the CRA, $9.5 
billion in expenses had been given to ACORN and other organizations.  (It 
must be noted here that Barack Obama was an ACORN lactivist trainer, their 
lawyer, and the second largest recipient of Fannie Mae's largesse).. 
Several individuals and organizations, including the WSJ, Competitive 
Enterprise Institute, Treas.Secy John Snow,  Repub senators Chuck Hagel, 
Eliz. Dole, John Sunnunu and John McCain, as also Rep Richard Baker (R-La) 
all warned that financial trouble of large GSEs could cause strong 
repercussions in financial markets, affectng federaly insured entities and 
economic activity.  Sens Sunnunu, Dole, Hagel and Mel Martinez introduced 
legislation to improve GSE oversight.  They got nowhere.


In 2004, Rep. Maxine Waters said We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and 
particularly at Fannie Mae, under the outstading leadership of Franklin 
Raines (who went home with a $90m million bonus along with other top 
executives with similar outrageous bonuses and salaries).  Barney Frank 
told Treasury Sec. Snow:  I do not think we are facing any kind of crisis 
Click on the link below:


 http:// in.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuOEdttjZQ

Finally in 2007-08, the housing bubble began to burst, bad mortages began to 
default, and the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac portfolios were revealed to be 
in 

[Goanet] song with mog

2008-11-03 Thread Jose Pereira

Another version of the most famous of mandos:

TORQUATO DE FIGUEIREDO (1876-1948)

1. Adeus kortso vellu pauta
   Ai, mujem kallizo fapsota
   Dispidiro korcha vella
   O sonsar bongum maka dista

2. Forsan adeus tuka kortam
   Fugar zaun dukany'm aum-um rorhtam
   Zaite martiry re bogitam
Ankvarponn tukach re bettoitam

3 Sogleam amigam' sanddunum
   Vota tum furtunom sodunko
   Tuji fel'cidade tsouchako
   Utrikeany'm rabot'm mum re aum-um

   Voso vos re rorhum' naka
   Deu-u feliz kortol' tuka

Saxtti elisions: dukanim, amigank, felecidade, utrikeanim [atreganim], 
rabotam, rorhunk, kortolo


1. The moment of farewell approaches. Oh, my heart suffocates! At the time 
of farewell, I  lose all hope in life.


2. I force myself to utter the parting words. Stifled, I melt into tears.  I 
suffer so many agonies! To you alone I dedicate my virgin life.


3. You are leaving your friends behind you, and going in search of fortune. 
I wait with yearning to see your happubess.


   Go, go dear, and do not cry! God will make you happy!



[Goanet] ART EXHIBITION: Goa Contemporaries

2008-11-03 Thread Goanet AE

Goa Contemporaries

On Tue 04 November, at 6.15 pm, the Nehru Centre London will host Goa 
Contemporaries, an exhibition of works on paper by seven Goa-based artists. 
The exhibition is curated by Margaret Mascarenhas, novelist, collector and 
promoter of art produced in Goa, presented by Kiki's London, co-sponsored by 
the Vasantrao Dempo Education and Research Trust and Sunaparanta Goa Centre 
for the Arts, a Dattaraj V Salgaocar initiative.


The exhibition showcases the work of the following artists :

Julio De Souza, an explosive talent, who explores self-representation and 
reinvents Picasso's Minotaur; Swatee Kotwal, an experienced 
retro-abstractionist, whose work is preoccupied with ecological fragility;


Apurva Kulkarni, conceptual artist, whose notion of the found object is 
inspired from the virtual world  and blends traditional story telling 
methods of traditional Jain miniature artists with comic book art;


Vamona Navalcar, Goa's senior-most artist, the first Goan to study at the 
Escola Superior de Belas Artes of Portugal, and a master of line;


Deviprasad C Rao, rising abstractionist star, whose process-based 
abstractions combine quirky, child-like imagery and surrealistic poetry;


Suhas Shilker, whose abstract painterly vocabulary of scrawls, linear marks, 
signs and symbols resist literal interpretation;


Norman Tagore, whose predominantly figurative work is influenced by 
photography and inspired by the faces of the world he inhabits, articulating 
feelings of loneliness, despair, suffering or failure of human 
communication.


The Rt. Hon. Keith Vaz MP will inaugurate the event.

For further information, please call 020 7937 1342/e-mail : 
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Goanet AE

http://www.goanet.org
Where Goans Connect



[Goanet] Deat Announcement- Rosebelle Telles

2008-11-03 Thread Dr.Joyce D'Souza Shamshudin

Dear Members and Friends


We regret to announce the  death of:

Rosebelle Fernandes Telles- ( she was a teacher at the Oshwall Academy)

which occurred at 2.00pm on Friday 31st October  2008 at the Aga Khan Hospital, 
Nairobi , Kenya.

Wife of the late Tony Telles,

Sister of Oswald Fernandes ( Australia), David  Lawrence Fernandes (Bombay, 
India), Julie Lopes Pereira (New Zealand) Phyllis Healey( Australia)  Joyce 
Simpson (UK)

Funeral arrangements will be announced latter

for and on behalf of the family

Goan Welfare Society












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[Goanet] Activists just go in hiding when it comes to elections ?

2008-11-03 Thread Samir Kelekar
It is important to have someone in Pale so that decent people dont have to vote 
for parties that have rapists in them. For now, both Congress and
BJP seem to be harbouring alleged rapists' fathers.

But then the activists seem to go in hiding just when the elections are
around the corner.

Will the NRGs put their money where their mouth is and ensure that there
is money for the campaign, if there is a candidate ?

I am really not in the loop as to what the thinking is in the activist
circles and sitting here in Bangalore there is only
so much I can do. Other than that, I promise to come down for campaigning
for a few days.


regards,
Samir




  


[Goanet] Eco-friendly vs Eco-hostile development in Goa

2008-11-03 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

“Rivulet bursts into flames at Sancoale” read the front page story on Herald 
yesterday 2nd November 2008. The incident narrates the sad state of affairs Goa 
is gripped with. Our rivulets are on fire. Our wells are on fire. Burning 
rivers is a sign indeed of extremely sad state of affairs in our midst in Goa. 
The report mentions that is the seepage of petroleum products that has made 
rivulet and the surrounding wells ripe to go on fire. Nearby industries in Port 
Town of Vasco are squarely responsible for this state is anyone’s sensible 
guess. The authorities that are not able to pin down the cause and identify the 
culprit are another joking matter that deserves public attention. Of course 
investigations have been imitated by Goa State Pollution Control Board (GPSCB)!

The Sancoale rivulet on fire is only one example of the manner in which 
development in Goa has been grossly anti-nature. There are several other 
examples wherein the situations are no better. The entire mining belt of India 
has done massive damage to our water bodies. Our rivers are massively silted 
with mining rejects, natural springs dried up, wells are without water and 
dangerous water crisis has hit the mining belt. The crisis is threatening to 
hit the coastal belt as well with rampant mining in Selaulim Dam watershed.

Mining industry is leading all round destruction of Goa. Water shortages that 
are to hit us in near future is direct fall out of this situation. Tourism and 
rampant construction activities are steadily destroying water bodies of Coastal 
Goa. Due to leakages in septic tanks ground water is increasingly getting 
polluted. This is unhealthy development – hostile to nature.

Besides mining, tourism and Construction lobby, it is automobile industry that 
is responsible for large scale ecologically undesirable development. With 
increasing number of vehicles everyday, the demand for new roads and widening 
of existing roads, including widening of existing highways is gaining currency. 
These roads are beneficial to industry alone. Six lane highway road widening 
projects of the state government of Goa is another example to this 
pro-automobile industry drives.

Automobile industry does not stop at the influencing State policies alone. It 
has also influences civil institutions such as spaces around Temples and 
Churches in Goa. Through out my childhood I visited St. Anthony’s Church in my 
village of Siolim. Its compound used to be very cool and I used to enjoy direct 
contact with the mud. Over a past decade or so things changed: church decided 
to tar the compound wall that now caters as superb parking slot for vehicles of 
those coming to the church on Sundays and other days. Now it is tarred and gets 
heated up! I miss something every time I look at it. No doubt it has benefited 
few individuals; automobile industry captured one more frontier – the church 
compound. One only need to count number of Church compounds and Temple 
compounds in Goa that are tarred there by increasing temperature on ground 
specially during sunlight. This is another unhealthy development practice 
adopted by our society.

The re-thinking on development paradigm that is eco-hostile has to come from 
society more so from popular folk level. This so because our scientific 
establishment has meet bought off largely by industry that is bent upon 
generating large scale eco-hostile development projects. Media then is roped in 
to manufacture consent for its acceptance. The essence these projects being 
eco-hostile necessarily needs lots of coxing for its acceptance in society. If 
it does not work then coercion is deployed – legal and administrative coercion. 
Democratic processes are subverted – as it is happening in recent attempt of 
the State-Industry combine to win themselves legitimacy through various 
regional plans under intense debate in Goa since 2005.

The current rise in articulation levels of the People in Goa is very healthy 
sign. The response in the face of pain is cry – soft or loud – that expresses 
the state of affairs. The protests and their current state in Goa is exactly 
this. They have rose up to say what they do not want. It is heartening that 
people in Goa have rose up to express pain and say what they do not need – 
Commercial housing, Mining, Special Economic Zones, Casinos to name only few.

There is expressed concern in few quarters in Goa that that this is too 
negative an orientation of movement and it needs kind of positive agenda to 
change its contents and image. This is a legitimate concern and must be 
addressed on priority. One guiding principle that comes to mind as I reflect: 
Movements must identify and document water bodies and their details and must 
vow to defend them at all cost as the water is source of life on this planet 
earth that we inhabit. After identifying series of water bodies identify the 
linkages of these in their daily lives with regard to water and related 
security and 

[Goanet] Save youself first before saving Goa

2008-11-03 Thread rcabral
Chandrasekharan wrote:
activists should ... TO NOTE DOWN the violations on road and submit 
the number before the end of the day to the traffic police for issue 
of challans without any further enquiry into the facts of the same. 
My take:
This is exactly what I have observed in recent times. The Sarpanch and the 
panch when any irregularity or illegality is pointed out will respond Nobody 
complained. The Food and rug Inspector will tell you the same. The Police also 
will say the same thing and it goes on. Is it some sort of universal unwritten 
law that action will be taken only if someone complains? Why then do we have so 
many authorities?
I really find it funny.
Richard Cabral


[Goanet] OBAMA emerged victorious in the first election returns winning 15 of 21 votes !!!

2008-11-03 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
DIXVILLE NOTCH, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack 
Obama emerged victorious in the first election returns of the 2008 presidential 
race, winning 15 of 21 votes cast in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.



 


Tanner Tillotson, front center, of Dixville Notch, New Hampshire, wins the 
honor of first voter. 

 
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People in the village in New Hampshire's northeast corner voted just after 
midnight Tuesday.
It was the first time since 1968 that the village leaned Democratic in an 
election.
Obama's rival, Republican John McCain, won 6 votes.
A full 100 percent of registered voters in the village cast ballots. And the 
votes didn't take long to tally.
The town, home to around 75 residents, has opened its polls shortly after 
midnight each Election Day since 1960, drawing national media attention for 
being the first place in the country to make its presidential preferences known.
However, since 1996, another small New Hampshire town -- Hart's Location -- 
reinstated its practice from the 1940s and also began opening its polls at 
midnight.
The result in Dixville Notch is hardly a reliable bellwether for the eventual 
winner of the White House -- or even the result statewide.

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While New Hampshire is a perennial swing state, with 4 Electoral College votes 
at stake, Dixville Notch consistently leans Republican. The last Democrat it 
picked was Hubert Humphrey over Richard Nixon in 1968.
President Bush won the town in a landslide in the past two elections: He 
captured 73 percent of the vote in 2004 (19 residents picked Bush while six 
preferred Sen. John Kerry), and secured 80 percent of the vote in 2000 (21 
votes for Bush, five votes for Al Gore.)
But villagers expected the results to be close this year given Democrats now 
outnumber Republicans there.
The town picked both John McCain and Barack Obama for the New Hampshire 
Democratic and Republican primaries in January. McCain ultimately won the state 
of New Hampshire, while Sen. Hillary Clinton upset Obama there.

 
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Re: [Goanet] German girl Rape Case: BJP MLA’s Son involved too??

2008-11-03 Thread frank dcruz
I think this is all a lot of rubbish, i think its high time the people of goa 
WAKE UP, Its been nearly a month and not even a single arrest even after the 
medical report confirmed that it was a rape. The police should drown 
themselves, if it had to be an Aam Admi as you say then the whole family 
would have been arrested by now. PEOPLE OF GOA PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE AND 
DO EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHTS

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Goanet] German girl Rape Case: BJP MLA’s Son involved too??
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:37 PM
 German girl Rape Case: BJP MLA’s Son involved too??
 
 The Education Minister, Mr Atanasio Monserrate, whose son
 Mr Rohit Monserrate has been accused of sexually abusing the
 German girl, in a press note released on Sunday said that
 his son would cooperate with the police now that the girl
 has deposed before the court and had her medical test done.
 
 He said that his son is an adult and �should be
 responsible for his actions and must face the consequences
 of breaking the law, if he has done so�.
 
 On Saturday, Mr Rohit Monserrate and Mr Joshua De Souza,
 the son of the Mapusa BJP MLA, Mr Francis De Souza, deposed
 before the police and gave their statements.
 
 The Education Minister, however, warned that he would
 resist attempts to �selectively target only my family
 members for extraneous and political purposes� and stated
 that the police have already recorded statements of his son,
 his wife, Ms Jennifer Monserrate, the PWD Minister, Mr
 Churchill Alemao�s nephew, Mr Warren Alemao and Mr Joshua
 De Souza.
 
 Read more
 http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008100369
 
 
 
 Very strange!!
 
 No arrest, no remand, no custody….
 
 Just appear from nowhere and give statement and go back to
 hiding again?
 
 I wonder if the same rule/treatment applies to Aam Aadmi.
 
 
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[Goanet] Mining transport stoped at Cavrem today

2008-11-03 Thread JOAO FERNANDES
Tension rose high in Cavrem Quepem on Monday when a mining truck driver 
drove his truck in a rash and negligent manner endangering the life of a 
motorcycle rider from Vilipwada Cavrem. .


The incident occur at around 11.30 AM when the truck loaded with iron  ore 
was proceeding towards Tank where the ore is stacked,  when reached at a 
narrow bridge at cavrem drove the truck in a rash and endanger manner 
thereby risking the life  motorcycle rider Thulo Velip who was proceeding to 
his house at Velipwada. However said Thulo Velip escape unhurt.
The  irritated villagers noted the number of the truck and all the villagers 
who were working in the paddy field marched on the main road and stopped the 
truck involved in rash and negligent driving while returning. The irritated 
villagers then manhandled the  driver of the said truck. It seems that the 
truck was transporting the ore from magnum mine operating in survey number 
27/1 and 27/2 and transport contractor of which is Balli Zilla Panchayat 
member Subhash Fall Dessai.


The villagers then stopped the entire mining transport  from operating on 
the road. They demanded the appearance of the contractor at the site.  At 
around 1.30 Quepem police appeared at the spot and in the process of 
diffusing the situation  requested the villager to allowed the loaded truck 
to go. That at the request of the police the villagers allowed the loaded 
truck which were blocked  to go but with a condition that till the 
contractor appeared before the villagers and meet their demand  no transport 
should be started. It is learnt that the transport is be operated by Balli 
Zilla panchayat member Subash Fall Dessai who was once upon a time a strong 
opposer of mining at a  Public hearing held at Fatorpa regarding the Bauxite 
mine has recently turned into a mining contractor has decided to meet the 
villagers on Tuesday evening.


Meanwhile the villagers of Cavrem  informed herald that at the time of 
starting the transport the contractor  assured the villagers that the 
transportation will be done with due care without endangering the life of 
the villagers , however within the last few months three to four cases of 
negligent driving their by endangering the life of the villagers have





[Goanet] Ballot box declares Obama as 44th President of America....

2008-11-03 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
Today is the great day for USA and equally for the world. 

 

I hope and pray Obama wins. 

 

I also hope Americans have casted their votes in favor of Obama. 

 

I pray to ballot box, when opened, announces only Obama as a 44th President
of America. 

 

I hope Obama's dream at the age of 8 to become president of America
materializes. 

 

Best regards,

 

Dr. U. G. Barad

 

 



[Goanet] GOACAN to observe Consumers Road Safety Fortnight

2008-11-03 Thread Goa Desc
 --
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends.Help others be better informed

---
GOACAN to observe Consumers Road Safety Fortnight
--
 GOACAN is observing a Consumers Road Safety Fortnight from
3rd to16th November to create awareness among the Consumers on
linkages of Road Safety issues and the Consumer Protection Act
as part of its ongoing Campaign on Road Safety  Traffic
Management. The fortnight long program is being organised with
a view to create Awareness, record Complaints and book
violations on issues of Road Safety and Traffic Management
keeping in mind the Rights  Responsibilities of the Consumer.

During the fortnight GOACAN alongwith the village based
Consumer Forums is organising a series of awareness actions in
both Districts to highlight the rules of the road, unsafe driving
practices, non use of helmets  seat belts, lack of maintenance
of speed breakers  rumbler strips and the need for Comfortable,
Affordable and Safe travel by public transport

 The Forum volunteers will also move resolutions at their respective
village Gram Sabhas on road safety issues, for the listing and
maintenance of speed breakers, rumbler strips and speed limit
signages and the need for a Road Engineering Cell (REC) within
the Public Works Department (PWD) and the formation of a Road
Safety  Traffic Management Committee at the level of the Village
Panchayat and Municipal Council.

The Forum volunteers will promote the use of the Complaint
Boxes of the Consumer Welfare Clubs (CWC) for student
commuters in High Schools, HSS and Colleges to report unsafe
practices by public transport vehicles, non issue of tickets,
harassment by conductors and denial of 50% bus concession.

During the fortnight GOACAN will hold meetings with senior
officers of the Directorate of Transport and Traffic Police on
citizens involvement in Road Safety  Traffic Management
besides addressing the problems faced by consumers with
regards to public transport and the bus fare hike with the
respective District Collectors.

The Forum volunteers will also caution village Panchayats about
granting licences to mega housing projects when the concerned
village does not have the necessary road infrastructure and will
highlight the directions of the Chief Minister followed by
instructions of the Chief Town Planner in this regard

GOACAN will also pursue with the Government appointed
Task Force for formulating the Transport  Traffic Policy for
Goa to deliberate issues related to the Regional Plan for 2021.

As a followup to the Awareness fortnight the Consumer Forum
volunteers will make preparations for peoples participation in the
observation of the forthcoming National Road Safety Week in
January 2009.

GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
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promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa
---
GOACAN Post Box  187 Margao,  Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box  78   Mapusa, Goa 403 507
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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