[Goanet-News] Goa news for April 21, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** India\'s Sesa Goa Q4 net falls 32 pct - Reuters ector iron ore exporter. It is a unit of London-listed Vedanta Resources (VED.L). ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustryMaterialsUtilitiesNews/idUSBMA00274820090420cid=1337609548ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNEfzwiuOKIYFmx0oildOuFrDoUiig *** Warner Bros backs out of \'Goa\' - MSN India roducer Soundarya Rajnikanth in a spot of bother, oursources say. Warner Bros was earlier upset with Soundaya's Ocher Studios for signing up Jai, an actor banned by the Tamil ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=2989484cid=1336074375ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNE0kTr501HnpnaoVFP8PHBKbA2EVA *** Air Arabia Launches Non-stop Service to Goa - Focus on Travel News ost carrier in the Middle East and North Africa on Thursday launched non-stop service to Goa, India. Round-trip flights will operate three times per week between Dabolim International Airport in Goa and Air ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ftnnews.com/content/view/5699/27/lang,english/cid=1337205060ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNFlbTQAuTCQIBY4Mu8TDRZL5HAImA *** Lokmat to take on Sakaal in Goa with a Marathi edition - Livemint http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.livemint.com/2009/04/19231219/Lokmat-to-take-on-Sakaal-in-Go.htmlcid=1337391966ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNGIq0TZNNsxtFeVJB0AcX91xAeI0w *** Sesa Goa Board recommends Dividend of Rs 2.25 - Equity Bulls 9 on the enhanced number of shares post ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.equitybulls.com/admin/news2006/news_det.asp?id=49701cid=1337832934ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNH20NLZc2EO-_HYBWlsUt81s2P4Vw *** Matanhy set to battle for S Goa seat - Times of India mes of India, IndiaIt was in 2000 that Saldanha was elected a member of the South Goa zilla parishad. His only stint in the assembly saw him take charge of the tourism portfolio. Saldanha has degrees in science and education, and a masters degree in arts (political ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Matanhy-set-to-battle-for-S-Goa-seat/articleshow/4421987.cmscid=0ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNGOwGmO9sfpFTxQOPAcfxzeZea-tg *** From cynic to sand: A yogi is born in India\'s Goa - Cape Breton Post pe Breton Post, CanadaThis was Goa, one of the most heavily touristed regions of India. We had been travelling around the subcontinent for two months, trying to convince ourselves that we were intrepid #148; eating and interacting with the locals, hanging out where pale skin ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.capebretonpost.com/index.cfm?sid=243470sc=701cid=1337926310ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNFuAdw-NEU9alw4Yut2UrQHJJcaZg *** Counselling sessions for GU students to begin soon - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: The Goa University has decided to have two on campus professional counsellors in view of the molestation and ragging cases. Goa University registrar, MM Sangodkar, has said that the counselling will begin with the girl that has alleged ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Counselling-sessions-for-GU-students-to-begin-soon/articleshow/4427576.cmscid=1336722399ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNGwGiPsk6C2Goedks6TOVmkPq313w *** I\'ll introduce Bill seeking special status for Goa: Shantaram Naik - Times of India mes of India, IndiaMARGAO: Rajya Sabha MP Shantaram Naik on Sunday revealed his plan to introduce a Bill in the parliament seeking special status for Goa by proposing suitable amendments to Article 371(i) of the Constitution of India. The Bill is being drafted and will ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Ill-introduce-Bill-seeking-special-status-for-Goa-Shantaram-Naik/articleshow/4421985.cmscid=1336563849ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNHwurZdhTMnWj4HB-74wdzNR0X6BQ *** No paramilitary forces for Goa: EC - Hindu ndu, IndiaPANAJI: The Election Commission has declined to give paramilitary forces for Goa for the conduct of elections to its two Lok Sabha constituencies which go to the polls on Thursday. North Goa Magistrate and Returning Officer KS Singh told presspersons ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/21/stories/2009042153431100.htmcid=0ei=ewXtSbORApeIQp6bjYYMusg=AFQjCNHpG2LlOkuGPLzO8u4cszGzEZ6Wfg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet-News] NEWS: Ad featuring Goan regional party leader kicks off row (IANS)
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/ad-featuring-goan-regional-party-leader-kicks-off-row_100182750.html Ad featuring Goan regional party leader kicks off row April 21st, 2009 - 9:56 pm ICT by IANS Panaji, April 21 (IANS) A controversial advertisement published in a local English daily Tuesday, showing a Goan regional party candidate with a cross above his head, being beheaded by a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader with a scissor, has created a sensation in the Goan political and media circles. The advertisement, published in the largest circulated English daily Herald, contains a clip-to-art - a collage created by piecing together separate images, depicting a cross above a photograph of United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP) candidate from South Goa Mathany Saldanha’s head, which is trapped between the blades of a pair of scissors, held by BJP’s Manohar Parrikar and former UGDP general secretary Radharao Gracias. The pair of scissors is incidentally UGDP’s election symbol. Speaking to IANS, Saldanha said that he would initiate criminal proceedings against the Herald, which published the ad and artist Vicente Correia. “I have also complained to the chief electoral officer about it (CEO). It is mischievous and in bad taste,” Mathany said. Parrikar also said that the advertisement was in violation of the code of conduct as it used religious symbols. “The use of a religious symbol in such an advertisement is not a good sign. I am writing to the election authorities. I want to see how they act in this case,” Parrikar said, alleging they have not behaved in a fair manner during most of the campaigning period. When IANS contacted the creator of the controversial advertisement, Correia said that he had paid Rs.4,000 to get the advertisement published. “I had a vision of the cross coming out of Mathany’s (Saldanha) head. He is being crucified in the same way John De Baptiste (a Biblical preacher) was crucified by King Herod’s wife,” he said. Correia also said that the graphic was a creative exercise and insisted that it was not published at the behest of any political party. Herald’s editor Ashwin Tombat told IANS that the advertisement made no reference to Mathany. “Other than that I have no comment to make,” Tombat said. The controversial advertisement comes on the heels of repeated cautions by the election authorities, that any surrogate advertising in the media would attract criminal action against the media outfit.
[Goanet] Daily Grook #382
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[Goanet] 'Brain Bang' Annual Ceremony held with a bang!
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) 'Brain Bang' Annual Ceremony held with a bang! By Javis Gerald, Kuwait Kuwait: The Brain Bang team under the auspices of Friends of CRY Club (FOCC) Kuwait held their Annual Ceremony on Friday, 17th April 2009 at the Kuwait American School with characteristic enthusiasm and one to one interaction among students and parents. The celebration was held to conclude the fourth successful session of their Accelerated Learning program this year in Memory Enhancement Techniques. The students of Brain Bang demonstrated activities like Mind-mapping and other skills that they have learnt in a creative skit format. Live demonstration of the direct application of these techniques to their studies was witnessed by proud parents and amazed guests. Presentations about the Brain Bang initiative, its progress and it’s future direction were very well received by the chief guests of the occasion- The parents themselves! The cultural program in the end highlighted the multifaceted personalities of the Brain Bang students with magic show by Edgar D’Souza, Lester D’Sa, Pranav Sankar, Aditya Sudhakaran and Khozema Kausar and a peppy dance by Marium George, Enaam Merchant, Iklas Merchant, Medihah Merchant and Kynara Fernandes. At the onset, Janis D’Sa welcomed the parents, students and well-wishers. A brief on the course information was presented by Javis Gerald and thanked all his team members: Janis D’Sa, Sara Gerald, Shegufa Merchant, Olina Lewis, Nisrin Merchant and Monica Rodrigues for their dedication and cooperation. A Parents’ interview was conducted by Shegufa Merchant in which the pros and cons of the Brain Bang experience vis-à-vis their participant children gave a good glimpse of the year long course held by FOCC. The event was graced by the presence of Capt. Pawan Chaudhry and Gaspar Almeida our FOCC volunteers who were enthralled by the achievements of the Brainbang participants. Mr. Joseph Panicker, the President of IEI, shared a few thoughts and ideas. The Brain Bang Team was congratulated for their whole hearted efforts and a brief outline of CRY activities was highlighted by Capt. Pawan Chaudhry. Certificates and gifts were presented at the hands of Mr. Gaspar Almeida to all the Brain Bang course participants and the Brain Bang (FOCC) volunteers. The programme was compered by Nisrin Merchant and Shegufa Merchant. FOCC thanked the managements of Kuwait American School, IEAS (Don Bosco) and in a special way the press and media for their support. A vote of thanks was proposed by Enaam Merchant. The next batch for Accelerated Learning is scheduled to begin in October 2009. More information regarding the course can be received on 99791428/25618471. Watch out for more activities and announcements from Brain Bang and FOCC and log on to www.focckwt.org. FOCC can be contacted via email at focc...@yahoo.com http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcastbroadcastid=121449 - The report is published in Arab Times of 21-04-2009 (Page 29). http://www.arabtimesonline.com http://www.youtube.com/user/placidousa SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR A WELL-WISHER FRIEND OF GOA-WORLD TEAM Goa World Goa Mog Goa SuRaj Super Goa (em Português) TGF Writers' Sketchpad www.colaco.net www.goa-world. .com/goa/ music/ - The Online Music Station for KONKANI Mahableshwar http://www.mahables hwar.com St. Mary's School - Mt Abu, Rajasthan India http://www.abusms. com EXPRESSIONS - THE FLOWER SHOP http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/ http://www.w3.org/2006/10/SSML/papers/paper.pdf GOA MAG ONLINE http://www.goamag.net http://www.renewalsetc.com/renewals.htm
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia (Lesley A. Esteves)
The article does not mention Fernando's passion for music. He a was an avid drummer and belonged to the group Remo and companhia. He was married to Imelda Tavora's daughter. BC
[Goanet] TSKK AWARDS
*TSKK AWARDS* This year Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) will honor the veteran Konknni writer of religious literature Fr Almir de Sousa as the nineteenth recipient of Kendra’s Prestigious Antonio Pereira Konknni Puroskar (APKP). Fr Almir will receive this award for the year 2009 for his valuable contribution to Konknni literature in the field of religious literature in Roman script. The award consists of a shawl, memento and cash Rs. 25,000/-. Fr. Almir was born on 17.01.1934 at Saligão, Goa. He did his priestly studies at Rachol Seminary in Goa; Gregorian University, Rome; and at Lumen Vitae, Brussels. He was ordained as a priest on 18 December 1960. He has written and edited 25 Konknni books. Some of the important books are *Utor ani Jivit* a Series containing of five books; *Magnneacho Turo* 6 booklets, *Somiachem Jevonn, Mis* and 8 books of Konknni Catechism. Fr. Almir held many responsible positions in the Goa Archdiocese. He has served as the prefect of Saligão Seminary, Pro-Notary in Archbishop’s House, Secretary of Diocesan Catechetical Centre, Secretary of Diocesan Liturgical Centre, and Director of Pastoral Centre. He has served as a Parish Priest at St. Estevão and Verna. At present he is the Parish priest of Ucassaim in Bardes taluka. He started the Parish bulletins *St. Estevanchi Zap* and *Vernechi Zap* at St. Estevão and Verna respectively. At Ucassaim he improved the parish bulletin *Zagruti*. Fr. Almir has promoted Konknni in liturgical and other religious services. For the last two years TSKK gives an award ‘*Konknni Martir Florian Vaz Puroskar’* for the best Konknni book of the calendar year written in Roman script. For the year 2008 *Zoit* poetry book of Walter Menezes from Quepem has been selected. Walter Menezes is a noted Konknni writer. Besides Konknni, he writes articles in English. The award consists of a shawl, memento and cash Rs. 5,000/-. Both these awards and Lourenço and Umbelina de Souza scholarship to Ms Concy Fernandes from Vasco will be given during the public function at TSKK premises, Alto Porvorim on Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 5.30 pm by the Chief Guest, Mr. Pandharinath Lotlikar, the Ex-Director of Doordarshan Kendr, Panaji. This function is open to the public.
[Goanet] Hearty Congratulations Prayerful Good Wishes to our Beloved Jubilarians
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Hearty Congratulations Prayerful Good Wishes to Our Beloved Jubilarians On Their Ruby and Golden Sacerdotal Anniversaries H.L. Bishop Camillo Ballin, mccj Vicar Apostolic of Kuwait 40th Anniversary of Priestly Ordination 30th March 1969 - 2009 H.G. Archbishop M. El-Hachem Apostolic Nuncio in Kuwait 50th Anniversary of Priestly Ordination 28th March 1959 - 2009 Archbishop El-Hachem, Bishop Camillo Ballin, Bishop Paul Hinder and the Clergy of the Vicariate Apostolic of Kuwait Concelebrated Mass on 15th April 2009 to mark the two Jubilee celebrations [ Please click here for a larger picture ] H.L. Bishop Camillo Ballin's Welcome Address at the Concelebrated Mass on 15th April 2009 at the Holy Family Cathedral Your Grace, Your Excellency Bishop Paul Hinder, Rev. Fathers, Rev. Sisters and my dear People, This evening, together with Bishop Paul, Vicar Apostolic of Arabia, I am very happy to introduce and welcome all of you to this Eucharistic celebration which takes us back to an event in the life of our Apostolic Nuncio, his Priestly Ordination on 28th March, 1959. His presence among us today makes us aware of the need to share his joy and feeling of fulfillment as a good shepherd who has crossed the semi-century in his Priesthood. His Grace was born on 8th September 1934, a day very dear to all Marian devotees, in ‘Aqoura, Lebanon. His early education was in his native place and he had most of his higher studies outside his country mainly in France. He was ordained priest of the Maronite Church in 1959. With a deep knowledge coupled with pastoral zeal made him a full time laborer in the vineyard of the Lord. Msgr. El-Hachem’s humble and simple approach made him worthy of greater responsibilities. For 29 years he served the Vatican Secretariat of State and remained close to the Pope who is the Pastor of the Catholic Church and a sign of visible unity in the universal Church. He was the Director of the Arabic section of the Press Office during the Second Vatican Council. He had a remarkable history of service back in his home diocese. Msgr. El-Hachem’s involvement in the diplomatic mission of Vatican made him an international figure. It is with this experience in the diplomatic field, that he was appointed as Apostolic Nuncio to Kuwait and to other countries in the Gulf by His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI, in 2005. Dear friends, this is only a short summary of events through which God had done marvelous things in the life of His Grace for his Holy Church. The diplomatic personnel of Vatican is not only a civil representative but also a spiritual animator and a promoter of unity and universality. I am sure His Grace maintains these spiritual values as the true Ambassador of Pope. His mission as Nuncio to this part of Gulf has become more relevant at a time when His Holiness is faced with so much misunderstanding and unwarranted disputes. His message of peace and tolerance will be carried and conveyed by His Grace to the countries and cultures to which he represents His Holiness. Catholic Priesthood is a divine institution which demands a call and a response. No doubt, all through these fifty years, His Grace was blessed with the gift of commitment to God and to His Church. He always co-operated with God’s plan which made his Priesthood more functional and fruitful in the Church. He loves the Church and labors for Her tirelessly. Perhaps this may be one of the reasons for his sound health and spiritual energy at the moment. Now we are around His Grace in this cenacle of love and at this pinnacle of fulfillment Your Grace, His Excellency Bishop Paul and myself together with our people are gathered here, united to taste the fruit of your labors during the last fifty years and to appreciate the values of priesthood which you upheld in your life. We cannot pass over these years of service without pause for a moment. We implore God’s abundant blessings and pray for you and your personal intentions. On behalf of all present here, I whole heartedly welcome Your Grace to this Eucharistic Assembly and exhort all present to enrich this celebration with your active participation. God bless you all. Bishop Camillo Ballin, mccj Vicar Apostolic of Kuwait http://www.catholic-church.org/kuwait/ http://www.youtube.com/user/placidousa SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR A WELL-WISHER FRIEND OF GOA-WORLD TEAM Goa World http://www.goa-world.com
[Goanet] Churchill's travails
If the sword of Damocles is hanging over the head of Churchill Alemao , courtesy Speaker of Goa Assembly and that too when elections to the Lok Sabha are imminent, it could possible mean that the original Ali Baba is trying to stage a comeback with the help of BJP.
Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Samir, Before you ask, follow your own rule stated below, and tell me what your own contribution to Goa has been in the past few years. Then, maybe, I understand what you want to know about me. Jai ho! v - Original Message - From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa Jesus said --- let him throw the first stone who has not created any sin. I would like to know the contribution of the following to Goa in the past few years. 1) Valmiki Faliero. 2) Digambar Kamat 3) Auduth Timblo. Only when they have done so, they have the right to comment on Mathany. Otherwise, they ought to shut up!! Jai Hind! samir
[Goanet] Goa's Mr 10 %
In response to: Message: 7 Date: 18 Apr 2009 15:56:10 - From: Manoj Raikar manojgrai...@rediffmail.com http://f5mail.rediff.com/prism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individualemail=manojgr ai...@rediffmail.comels=b924a20d5742903d73ab3d6912a305e4 Subject: [Goanet] Fw: Goa's Mr 10 % Dear Manoj Raikar, Today there are two things that drag India backwards and nullifies all the good work that is done in science and technology, they are our very vast unproductive population and rampant corruption, both these are our major drawbacks, both at state level as well as national level. Just a couple of days back, I had read an article, that the amount of black money in the Swiss banks, could lavishly finance more than a couple of annual budgets. So you can imagine the amount of black money that is stacked in and around the Alps, lying there doing nothing. China is the most populace country but the advantage for them is, they are ruled by an iron hand, so corruption is much less and their vast population is more productive than ours. If we in India can bring down the level of corruption and control our population and turn our illiterate, unskilled labour workforce into an educated and productive one, then, and only then, we'll be able to fulfill our dreams of becoming a true world super power. Our politicians on the other hand, have no such vision, they don't want to educate the illiterate, because if they do, they will surely not be able to ride the rough sod on them, or take advantage of them, and they will not stop corruption too, because that's the sole purpose, that they have joined politics for, it's commerce before service. We all know what all our MLA's were before they joined politics and what they are now, How did such a drastic change in fortune occur ? The answer is definitely CORRUPTION and there are no two ways about it. So why on earth does the EC not investigate such politicians ? Educating the children is the right way to move forward, if the kids can embarrass the thick skinned, by saying we do not want to be part of what is corrupt, it would most certainly help make a change. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] .. Exactly what is an MP's job ?
... Exactly what is an MP'S Job? (And guess what? Despite an RTI application, he hasn't been able to get an answer) By Srabana Lahiri / Geeta Desai Posted On Tuesday, April 21, 2009 RTI activist Dev Ashish Bhattacharya Watching the frenzy of poll coverage, an MBA graduate who works with a private sector company in New Delhi had a question: What is the exact responsibility of a Member of Parliament? Unable to find the answer in newspapers or on the Internet, Dev Ashish Bhattacharya dashed off a Right To Information application.Much to his amazement, the 45-year-old was told that neither the Election Commission nor the ministries of Law and Justice and Parliamentary Affairs had a clue! Bhattacharya had asked two questions: 1) What are the rules or provisions that fix the duties and responsibilities of MPs and MLAs? 2) What is an MPs' role in providing basic amenities and maintaining law and order in his or her respective constituency? The Election Commission spends crores of rupees from the public exchequer on the election process, I assumed they would know but they forwarded my query to the Law and Judiciary and the Parliamentary Affairs ministries. Between these three, they should have been able to answer me, but the entire system is just as confused, Bhattacharya says. Why are they [MPs] administered the oath of office? They should perhaps restrict themselves to parliamentary sittings and receive an honorarium. If they really have any duties, let the government come forward and define them, he says. turn to MPs and MLAs are not responsible for failure of any kind in their respective constituencies, not accountable at all, yet they get to spend huge amounts of public money, draw salaries and get allowances and even pension, says Bhattacharya, who approached the Election Commission two months ago. Bhattacharya now plans to approach the President's office. I will send my application to the President. She is the head of the country. Let me see whether she knows what the elected representatives of the people are supposed to do. What an MP gets Salary: Rs 12,000 per month Perks: . Rs 20,000 for office expenses every month, which includes Rs 4,000 for stationery, Rs 2,000 for franking of letters and Rs 14,000 for secretarial services. . A monthly constituency allowance of Rs 12,000 . A daily allowance of Rs 1,000 when Parliament is in session . MP and his spouse or companion are entitled to unlimited, free, first class railway travel anywhere in the country. They can also travel anywhere in India - with a spouse or companion - 34 times by air free of cost every year, business class. . MP gets accommodation in the heart of New Delhi, for which he or she pays a rent of just Rs 2,000 per month. Each MP gets near-free electricity of 50,000 units every year. And free water upto 4,000 kilolitre. . The MP's home has furniture worth Rs 75,000 and he or she gets sofa covers and curtains washed free of cost every three months. . MPs are entitled to three phone lines and 1,50,000 free local calls every year. . When an MP travels abroad officially, he is entitled to free business class air tickets. He is also paid a daily travelling allowance, which varies depending upon the country visited. . Most medical expenses of MPs are taken care of by the Contributory Health Service Scheme of the Union govt. . After an MP completes a term in office, he is entitled to pension. The monthly pension is Rs 8,000 and it goes up according to the number of years an MP serves in Parliament. Do they know their job? MPs should work closely with the constituency, they are expected to participate in discussions on issues pertaining to development of the country in the Lok Sabha too. Every year, giving an account of work done to the public is a must. I have given an account of my work for the last 5 years, even when I was not elected in 2004. - Ram Naik (BJP), Mumbai-NorthAn MP's prime responsibility is to work for people, take up their issues in Parliament at the macro level. I have discussed in the Lok Sabha issues like terrorism, implementation of police reforms, child abuse and women's empowerment. The problems of the constituency and of the people of Mumbai are my prime responsibility. - Priya Dutt Mumbai (Congress), North/West I am committed to my constituency. I have raised issues pertaining to Thane and worked for development, especially of the Railways. I have tried to use funds from the Local Area Development Fund for this. People are intelligent... if you don't work and do not fulfil your responsibility towards your constituency, they know what to do in the next election. - Anand Paranjpe (Shiv Sena), Kalyan Copyright 2008 Bennett Coleman Co. Ltd. . All rights reserved. http://www.mumbaimirror.com/index.aspx?page=articlesectid=15contentid=200904212009042103363569361777aa3#ftr2
[Goanet] Goa-World.com questions: Doesn't the EC code of conduct applies to Congress in Goa?
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Congress Minister in Goa terms state party leaders ‘dishonest’ April 20th, 2009 - 3:02 pm ICT by IANS window.google_render_ad(); Panaji, April 20 (IANS) Goa’s Public Works Department minister Churchill Alemao, angry over denial of ticket to his daughter Valanka, turned on his own Congress party and its South Goa candidate terming them “dishonest”. “If you cannot honour a written agreement to give ticket to Valanka, how can the party be trusted?” Alemao told a rally at Navelim Sunday evening in the presence of an embarrassed South Goa Congress candidate Francisco Sardinha, Goa Congress unit president Subhash Shirodkar and Chief Minister Digambar Kamat. Attacking the Congress further, Alemao said that barring party president Sonia Gandhi and Shirodkar, none of the Congress leaders could be trusted. Alemao, a legislator from Navelim, also made snide remarks about Sardinha, alleging that the sitting MP was not a popular candidate for the Lok Sabha elections. “You would never have faced problems organising meetings if my daughter Valanka was a candidate,” he said. Alemao also warned Sardinha that he would lose the Lok Sabha election if he campaigned with another former chief minister and Alemao’s rival Luizinho Faleiro. Alemao charged Falerio with goading Tourism Minister Francisco alias Mickky Pacheco, who is from the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP), to file a disqualification petition against him. The petition, accusing Alemao and Congress legislator Reginaldo Lourence of illegally merging a regional party into the Congress after the last assembly elections, is pending before the assembly speaker. Alemao attacked the chief minister. “If I was the chief minister in such a situation, I would have immediately sacked Pacheco from the cabinet,” he said, questioning the logic behind a cabinet member filing a disqualification petition against his colleague. Alemao warned that if he was disqualified, there would be consequences. “If I am sent home, I will ensure that all go home. Twice I had shown in the past what politics is all about. Don’t force me to show it again,” he said. Rampant infighting has led to the Congress expending its energies in tracking down and pacifying rebellious leaders rather than focusing on the election campaign. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/congress-minister-in-goa-terms-state-party-leaders-dishonest_100182011.html http://www.youtube.com/user/placidousa SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR A WELL-WISHER FRIEND OF GOA-WORLD TEAM Goa World
Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?
There is a konkani saying...Bhottac zai zalear omas, nam zalear punov (the priest adjusts his calendar according to his whims) Santosh has ignored the point that Srikant has called PM a Liar and now trying to justify his statements that he is being abused. I hope he knows the difference between Liar and Lied. If Shrikant was mistaken why didnt you point out to him in the begining? I am reasonable that is why I have asked you, why you did not ask the same question when someone had abused Srikant earlier. was it because the poster was a having a hindu name?..and look how you have nicely put it 'trash from the archives' when the the post was hardly a week ago. 13/4. Now I ask you why do you think that poster abused Srikant? Refering to your post on 'Persecutions of Christians in Saudi Arabia'..let me tell you that I have been working n living in Saudi Arabia for the past 20 years and there are thousands of Christians and Hindus working here...some of the Hindus are even managing their own business. if the situation was so bad, it would have been difficult to live so many years here. Dev borem korum Edward Verdes Chinchinim/Jeddah - Original Message - From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: In the meantime, the poster could not prove if the PM lied? I always thought that, unlike Marshall, Eddie was a reasonable man. So I was disappointed to see this post from him. He has unfortunately posted some abusive trash from the archives against a private citizen, Shrikant Barve. Please see below. Incredibly, he has also raised an issue with Shrikant for not substantiating his criticism of the PM in the form of a rhetorical question, while showing the double standard of not asking Marshall to prove the slanderous and contemptuous insinuation that Shrikant was taught to hallucinate in the daily shakhas. I request Eddie to ask Marshall to do so. Regarding the PM, as I have said before, I do not believe that he is a liar. Shrikant was mistaken. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: Mon Apr 13 20:08:39 PDT 2009 Rajiv Desai wrote: [Goanet] re':shrikant barve i've often been tempted to write about this communal fathead who raves and rants on goanet. now that i have written, i'll not waste my time with such a contemptible pamphleteer. people like this are the bane of our nation. on Thu Apr 16 07:28:49 PDT 2009 santosh Helekar wrote: Marshall Mendonza wrote: Do they also teach you to hallucinate in the daily shakhas? Why is this guy abusing Shrikant Barve who has not personally attacked him in any way? COMMENT: Goanetters pls noteSantosh bab did not have any say as regards Rajiv Desai's post but instead he chose to ask Marshall...and Jose followed, as usual. In the meantime, the poster could not prove if the PM lied? Dev Borem korum Edward Verdes
[Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Are we up to discussing joke about trios who are projecting themselves as savers of Goa! If so I take liberty to explain this joke in nut shell. Timblo is finishing Goa at one end and projecting himself that he is for welfare of Goa at other side of Goa! Digambar helps Timblo for all his misdeeds by even passing special ordinance to protect Timblo to circumvent Supreme Court orders!! And Valmiki is doing good patch-up work to calm down Goans on all the misdeeds done by Timblo Digambar!!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] South Goa Parlimentary Elections and Surrogate Candidates
South Goa Parlimentary Elections and Surrogate Candidates The equation is simple, we do not have to go hammer and thongs agains Valmiki Faleiro and his sunday coloumn... every kid in south Goa knows that Mathany Saldhana has volunteered to be the surrogate and the two margao based advocates, one a master hand at countermanding elections, the other a political disaster and non-crowd puller have sold themselves to be the mid wives...to deliver a saffron blooded baby! The electorate of south goa are smart... Cedric Da Costa UAE/Goa
Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: And Valmiki is doing good patch-up work to calm down Goans on all the misdeeds done by Timblo Digambar!!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad - Barad, At least we know there is one sort of patch-up work Valmiki has not done. Posting articles by others and pretending they are his own work. Selma
[Goanet] Vote for BJP/NDA and make India richer by over 400 billion Dollars within 100 days
Vote for BJP and make India richer by over 400 billion Dollars within 100 days That sounds good to me. BJP leader Shatrugan Sinha stated in Vasco-Goa that if BJP-led NDA voted back to power, it will bring back all black money from Swiss Accounts within 100 days. He added 'about 6,00,000 villages in India, each will get Rs.4.5 crore for development' So, who you waiting for? Blindly vote for BJP No other party has ever promissed that. btw, has any Party or Candidate promised eradication of corruption at all Govt. dept ? I don't think so because part of the ill-gotton money goes to them too. Reason: Thy have to recover their elections cost. Village Panchayat secretaries charging huge kick backs to singn on construction licences for residential bungalow. The panchayat has okayed it at it's meeting and resolution passed accordingly. So, why delay? 'They or the Sarpanch don't sign it but I do' says the secratary. Pay only Rs.15,000 (other sec. charges 25-30K) and take your file same time'. What? whay so much? 'We paid lakhs to get this job' joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Contributions to Goa --- Cecil
Cecil says that Valmiki, Digamber have won public office and so have automatically contributed to Goa. While I dont want to comment on specific cases, and I will take their answer at face value, Cecil seems extremely naive about the whole concept of holding office. The raking of crores on holding office is a criminal activity and cannot be by any means called contribution to Goa. Indeed Valmiki himself through his column told us of crores that are being raked in by some of the current ministers. As to what are my contributions. They arent much but surely whatever little they are, I am extremely proud of. As a director of Infotech corporation, I have fulfilled my duty keeping in mind the highest tradition of serving the people. Though I could have easily raked in crores, I have not just refused but exposed those who were doing so. I have got at least one direct offer to hold another position with an offer to make crores in bribe money but i have refused to do so. Let Digambar come out in the open and say the same thing about himself and my vote will be for the Congress. Let Auduth Timblo come out and say he is not destroying Goa and I will be with him. As to Valmiki, I leave it to him to answer the question. Sure I know Valmiki has contributed to the public but that was a while back. As we know the situtation has gone worse in the last few years, the temptations have become more, and it is more and more difficult to be upright in these days. Certainly, I am not accusing Valmiki but I would have expected him to lead the Save Goa fight. A person with his experience was what was needed now. I am wondering why he is taking an ambivalent stand at this crucial juncture. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Samir Kelekar wrote: Jesus said --- let him throw the first stone who has not created any sin. I would like to know the contribution of the following to Goa in the past few years. 1) Valmiki Faliero. 2) Digambar Kamat 3) Auduth Timblo. Only when they have done so, they have the right to comment on Mathany. Otherwise, they ought to shut up!! Jai Hind! Dear Samir, Both Valmiki and Digambar have stood in elections for public office and won. They have served terms in these offices and thus automatically have contributed to Goa and Goans. I agree with you that Mathany is relatively a better choice than the others but if you are asking anyone who is critical to first show what is their contribution to Goa then you should go first. What Samir is your contribution ot Goa and is it more (or better) than that of the three you have named above? Cheers! Cecil P.S. Before Samir asks; I have not contributed anything to Goa but I do believe I have made a few Goans laugh occasionally.
[Goanet] Who is funding these elections? Drink to find out.
Apart from the usual suspects - the businessmen, the matkawallahs, the various mafias and so on - who is funding these Lok Sabha elections? I have a theory that during every election there are a certain bunch of people who are targetted to fork out the lolly. How come? Well certain commodities suddenly become scarce and their price sky-rockets just before and during election time and come to normal soon after. Like it could be onions one election or potatoes another. Someone more diligent can check whether I'm right or wrong by finding out if any commodity price went up before any particular election and why it happened. I don't know whether this is a nation - wide phenomenon but in Goa at least I believe that this time it is the liquor barons who will be the paymasters.This is because they have created an artificial scarcity of liquor. As a result in the most simple taverns a small pint of beer which used to cost Rs 25 NOW COSTS Rs 40 OR MORE. Imagine the price at upmarket bars. The excuse is that the Election Commission has announced that it would have spot checks at major outlets to ensure that candidates do not lift large stocks of liquor to satisfy the thirsts of dehydrated voters. So the wholesalers said that to be on the safe side they just would not supply any booze to anyone. This is all hooey. Booze which is a commodity with inelastic demand will and must be sold. Drinkers will and must drink. The only thing is that the prices have been hiked and it is sold on the quiet. The question is - who will be the beneficiary of the booze-wallahs munificence. Cheers or rather no cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
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[Goanet] Konkani name for Kulattha
*Botanical-Vigna unquiculata Walp.Syn. Dolichos biflorus (Fam. Leguminosae) KONKNNI: Looking into this, but Kulattha sounds quite Konknni-ish. Furthermore do try and get in touch with Goan Vaids/Botanists, as also Pratap Naik sj of TSKK)* ** ** *Sanskrit-KhalvaBengal-Kulattha English-Horse gram Gujarat-KalathiHindi- Kulathi Kannada-Huruli Malayalam- Mudiraa Marathi-KulithaTamil- Kollu Telugu-Ulavalu * ** ** ++ http://www.agri-history.org/pdf/Indian_pulses.pdf There is a picture here * Indian Pulses Through the Millennia Y L Nene *Asian Agri-History Foundation, Secunderabad 500 009, Andhra Pradesh, India*Horse gram (Dolichos uniflorus)* Horse gram is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. Archaeological investigations have revealed the use of horse gram as food arounf 2000 BC (Mehra, *2000*). The *Brahadaranyaka *(c. 5500 BC), a commentary on the Rigveda (c. 8000 BC) mentions *khatakula*, which is the original Sanskrit name for horse gram. The Yajurveda (c. 7000 BC) mentions the Sanskrit *kulattha *(Achaya, 1998) as the name for horse gram. Subsequently, Buddhist and Jain literature, and Kautilya’s Arthasastra, all mention *kulattha*. Susruta (c. 400 BC) mentioned *vanyakulattha*, obviously a wild species. *Kulattha *is mentioned in the Sangam literature of the Tamils (100 BC–300 AD) as *kollu*, which seems to be a derivative of *kulattha*. The original Latin name for horse gram was *Dolichos biflorus*, which was later changed to *D. uniflorus *. Watt (1889) mentions two varieties of seeds, red and white. Kautilya (321–296 BC) mentions its sowing time as the postrainy season, while, according to Watt (1889), the seed could be sown in any season. Kashyapa (800 AD) mentions broadcast sowing after moistening the seed (Ayachit, 2002). The crop is drought tolerant. It requires one weeding (Kashyapa, 800 AD; Ayachit, 2002), but no manuring is mentioned. The Sangam literature of the Tamils mentions intercropping horse gram with *Paspalum scrobiculatum *(Achaya, 1998).The Sangam literature of the Tamils mentions intercropping horse gram with *Paspalum scrobiculatum *(Achaya, 1998). In Satara (Maharashtra), horse gram was sown in June with pearl millet in separate rows (Watt, 1889). Horse gram fodder has been fed to horses for centuries and is a good cattle fodder as well (Watt, 1889). Horse gram has been used as a food item for millennia. The soup extract from *kulattha*, called *yusa*,* *was consumed commonly during the Sutra period (c. 1500–800 BC). These soups are the *rasams *of today (Achaya, 1998). The *vadas *(cakes) made from horse gram were listed in the *Varanaka Samuchaya *(1520 AD) in the Gujarati language (Achaya, 1998). Horse gram was used as medicine to treat calculus afflictions, corpulence, hiccups, and worms (Chunekar and Pandey, 1998). Surapala’s Vrikshayurveda (Sadhale, 1996) mentions interesting uses of horse gram in horticulture. Horse *gram decoction* was used for flower and fruit drop. The Ain-i-Akbari (1590 AD) does not mention *horse gram* as an item sold in the markets (Blochmann, 1873). Also see Pandanus Database on Plant Names: http://iu.ff.cuni.cz/pandanus/database/details.php?id=1927 http://iu.ff.cuni.cz/pandanus/database/ http://www.infinityfoundation.com/mandala/t_es/t_es_tiwar_botany.htm (read the tiny bit on plant consciousness) Some remedies (Please make your own decision) http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/home-remedy/kidney-stones-remedy.html venantius Mumbai From: Maria Josefa D'Souza maria...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Konkani name for Kulattha Hi, ? Would anyone know the Konkani name for? Kulattha ? Check http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/herbfinder/h_dolichos.htm A picture of Kulattha would help as well. Kulattha is known as a remedy for Kidney stones.? I was researching for home remedies for Kidney stones. Would anyone know other Kidney stone remedies ? Thanks, -Maria
[Goanet] VOTE FOR DR. LEO REBELLO FROM NORTH MUMBAI
26 - North Mumbai Parliamentary Constituency Dr Leo Rebello Frank, Fearless, Incorruptible Popular People's Candidate fielded by Bharipa Bahujan Mahasangh and supported by the others of the Third Front. Symbol: Television - Reduce Reliance electricity bills - Roti, Kapda, Makan education for all - Slums will turn into pucca houses - Attempt to remove octroi - Citizen Policing - Neighbourhood Watch - Double decker AC trains for local travel - Speedways on WR/CR tracks - Ban on noisy crackers - No fluoridation of water - Ban on plastic bags - Small Loans - Special Agriculture Zones - No bonuses to top executives - Reduce very high salaries and perks of company directors and CEOs - 6-hour shift instead of 8-hour work shift - Two shifts in courts, banks, post offices - In every family atleast one job be provided - one family one job - Through traditional and natural medicine provide safer, cheaper, reliable and affordable health care to all May it be noted that India has recognized six systems of medicines. Dr Leo Rebello, N.D., Ph.D., D.Sc., M.B.A. is the local candidate. He has 30 years social work experience, brilliant nation building ideas, and holistic vision. He has fought corruption, communalism, casteism and criminalisation. He is the Director of Natural Health Center, has written 36 books, delivered over 10,000 lectures in 63 countries and trained and treated thousands since 1978. He was SEM for 18 years, worked on the Film Censor Board for 2 years, is World Peace Envoy since 2004 and Ambassador of World Organisation of Natural Medicine. He co-founded All India Letter writers Association (the first association of Whistle Blowers) in 1980, All India Voters Panchayat and Litigants Welfare Forum in 1990. Recipient of many awards, he is listed in several Who's Who of the World. For more details see his website: www.healthwisdom.org as also www.MumbaiVotes.com or contact on 9022805703. North Mumbai Parliamentary Constituency comprises of: Malad West - Malvani, Erangal, Marve and Manori Village. Kandivali East - Damu Nagar, Lokhandwala, Samata Nagar, Thakur Complex and Thakur Village, Magathane. Kandivali West, Poisar, Charkop. Borivli West - IC Colony, Mandpeshwar, Gorai and Dahisar upto Check Naka. There are 16 lakh plus voters in this constituency. The composition is more or less as under: About 6,00,000 Marathis (including Muslims and Dalits). 2,25,000 Christians, including Kolis. About 3,00,000 Muslims. Rest Gujaratis and others. This information is given mainly to educate the voters, since we talk of proportional representation. ANALYSIS HOW DR. LEO REBELLO WILL WIN 100 PERCENT Even if 50% voters get down to vote on 30th april, Dr Leo Rebello will easily get 3 lakh + votes because of his truly secular credentials, high qualifications, grassroots experience and international exposure. The reason why you should support him and vote for him. Election Date: 30th April 2009. Time: 7.00AM to 5.00PM Address of Dr Leo Rebello: 28/552 Samata Nagar, Kandivali East, Mumbai-101. Tel: 22-28872741. Mobile: 9022805703 / 9867885306 __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4020 (20090420) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [Goanet] MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT
I think Aires, you had enough in the past days for your own fault... don't let the people ( GOANS) suffer like you again Faleiro Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:04:55 +0530 From: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT People of Goa should take a conscientious stand and vote for the BJP candidates, Mr. Sripad Naik in the North and Adv. Narendra Savoikar in the South at the April 23 Lok Sabha elections. In the current electoral pitch, the best option available for the people of Goa is to elect the BJP to effectively deal with the global economic and terrorism crisis by ensuring some political stability with good effective governance. Congress party has been fooling the people for too long. The April 23rd election is an opportunity for the people of Goa to teach the Congress a lesson. One wonders as to how a party that cannot keep its own MLAs content can ensure the welfare of Goa’s Aam Aadmi. After witnessing the rampant corruption and administrative chaos over the last few years in particular, people should not even consider voting for the Congress party. In the name of secularism the Congress party has looted and destroyed Goa’s social and cultural identity. Congress leaders have converted politics into a business and family venture. The overnight opportunistic switching of parties by Jitendra Deshprabhu from Congress to NCP, is just another example demonstrating that self interest had taken priority over the party’s and Goa's interests. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
Re: [Goanet] Some more
Thanks, Cedric, replied to that one, and saw your response (below) too. Thank you, kind of you. But these guys, like Samir Uday (will respond to both again) can hardly argue or debate. When you hit them a bit hard, they turn tails! Rgds, v - Original Message - From: cedrico dacosta cedri...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: [Goanet] South Goa Parlimentary Elections and Surrogate Candidates South Goa Parlimentary Elections and Surrogate Candidates The equation is simple, we do not have to go hammer and thongs agains Valmiki Faleiro and his sunday coloumn... every kid in south Goa knows that Mathany Saldhana has volunteered to be the surrogate and the two margao based advocates, one a master hand at countermanding elections, the other a political disaster and non-crowd puller have sold themselves to be the mid wives...to deliver a saffron blooded baby! The electorate of south goa are smart... Cedric Da Costa UAE/Goa
Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?
Here are answers to Eddie's questions. I hope he answers mine in return. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Edward Verdes eddiever...@hotmail.com wrote: If Shrikant was mistaken why didnt you point out to him in the begining? Because I do not consider it a big deal if anybody criticizes a politician or a public official, asks rhetorical questions about him, calls him a liar, or whatever. Public criticism and slander of a public person on account of his public statements are not considered illegal. I am reasonable that is why I have asked you, why you did not ask the same question when someone had abused Srikant earlier. was it because the poster was a having a hindu name? You are clearly not reasonable here. The answer is simple. I did not see or read that post from Rajiv Desai before Marshall dug that trash from the archives. That garbage appears to be entirely unprovoked. Now I ask you why do you think that poster abused Srikant? I do not know why people like him and Marshall abuse private citizens in public forums. Do you know why? Do you believe Shrikant Barve deserves to be abused? Do you believe it is okay to publicly abuse and slander private citizens with whom you disagree, or whose name, religion or political party is different from yours? Cheers, Santosh P.S. BTW, regarding Saudi Arabia, I have already provided evidence that it is the second worst persecutor of Christians in the world after North Korea.
[Goanet] Beardless
Just a note to all Cyber Goans that I met Frederick last week and he has shaved his beard off. This after a period of 23 years of always having a full beard. It takes a few seconds to recognise him. This note is to keep the public informed. Cheers! Cecil =
[Goanet] South Goa Parlimentary Elections and Surrogate Candidates
Cedric: Whom would you recommend as a candidate to vote for in South Goa ? Sardinha ? What points do you have in favour of Sardinha ? regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science (part 2)
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: I appreciate Santosh telling us he has not read any book on theology. Now we will have to check about other topics he writes on. Gilbert, I said I did not STUDY (not just read) any book on theology, which is what you asked me to do. Please see your quote below: Please tell us the names of five theological books you have studied (not just read)? ...Gilbert Lawrence I have certainly read a few books on theology, including parts of the Bible and Bhagvad Gita. The best one I have read so far is Religion Explained by Pascal Boyer. Now, you did not answer my questions, or try to calmly respond to the points I made. Instead, you resorted to innuendo and ad hominem. Please see below. What made you engage in this behavior? Cheers, Santosh --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this what passes off as intelligent conversation among scientists? Or is this a bitter brew of mis-guided outrage? Well ... I guess some scientist have a problem dealing with the facts. I would understand getting some flak from clinicians, for not being detailed in my explanations. However it appears that our pure science expert cannot handle the facts. Relax ... patients really come to see the doctors, because they love us!
[Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Carvalho wrote: Barad, At least we know there is one sort of patch-up work Valmiki has not done. Posting articles by others and pretending they are his own work.. Selma Selma, Writing articles or posting articles of others or writing provocations can in no way save Goa.And if you have made contributions to save GOA than the trio in question please let Goanet know about it! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] NEWS: Ad featuring Goan regional party leader kicks off row (IANS)
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/ad-featuring-goan-regional-party-leader-kicks-off-row_100182750.html Ad featuring Goan regional party leader kicks off row April 21st, 2009 - 9:56 pm ICT by IANS Panaji, April 21 (IANS) A controversial advertisement published in a local English daily Tuesday, showing a Goan regional party candidate with a cross above his head, being beheaded by a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader with a scissor, has created a sensation in the Goan political and media circles. The advertisement, published in the largest circulated English daily Herald, contains a clip-to-art - a collage created by piecing together separate images, depicting a cross above a photograph of United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP) candidate from South Goa Mathany Saldanha’s head, which is trapped between the blades of a pair of scissors, held by BJP’s Manohar Parrikar and former UGDP general secretary Radharao Gracias. The pair of scissors is incidentally UGDP’s election symbol. Speaking to IANS, Saldanha said that he would initiate criminal proceedings against the Herald, which published the ad and artist Vicente Correia. “I have also complained to the chief electoral officer about it (CEO). It is mischievous and in bad taste,” Mathany said. Parrikar also said that the advertisement was in violation of the code of conduct as it used religious symbols. “The use of a religious symbol in such an advertisement is not a good sign. I am writing to the election authorities. I want to see how they act in this case,” Parrikar said, alleging they have not behaved in a fair manner during most of the campaigning period. When IANS contacted the creator of the controversial advertisement, Correia said that he had paid Rs.4,000 to get the advertisement published. “I had a vision of the cross coming out of Mathany’s (Saldanha) head. He is being crucified in the same way John De Baptiste (a Biblical preacher) was crucified by King Herod’s wife,” he said. Correia also said that the graphic was a creative exercise and insisted that it was not published at the behest of any political party. Herald’s editor Ashwin Tombat told IANS that the advertisement made no reference to Mathany. “Other than that I have no comment to make,” Tombat said. The controversial advertisement comes on the heels of repeated cautions by the election authorities, that any surrogate advertising in the media would attract criminal action against the media outfit.
Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Dear Samir and Cecil, First, a word on what Cecil said. Contesting, winning and then holding public office is NOT, imho, a contribution to one's homeland. For a straight man like Mathany, contesting itself may incur sacrifice. For the crooks in power, it could be viewed as a contribution ... but working in reverse gear! What matters is what one does, or sincerely tries to, when one holds public office. Any of such achievements could be a 'contribution' -- but then, in a severely limited way. (Why are people elected to public office but to achieve some good?) And Samir, if your idea of contribution to Goa in recent years is to have got yourself nominated (by my friend Manohar Parrikar, when a BJP Chief Minister of Goa?) as director of Goa Infotech Corpn and then bitten the hand that fed you (with good reason, I know!), I'm afraid I would have little to say about my own contribution to Goa in recent years -- neither Parrikar nor Digambar deigned me fit to be appointed director on any state Corporation :-) (The only person who did that, without asking me, was my respected senior college lecturer in Mercantile Law, by now a Minister of State in Delhi's Union Govt, Eduardo Faleiro -- who put me on some board of the then 'Prasar Bharati' TV region HQ-ed in Bombay. I didn't attend a single meeting -- and neither encashed a single cheque sent by way of sitting fees. But I ain't a saint.) That apart -- the fact that neither Parrikar nor Digambar appointed me a director on any state Corporation -- I would never blow my own trumpet to tell you and Goanet what a great Goan contributor I've been. (Would have said this earlier, but was curious to see how you would respond to my earlier rejoinder, which, characteristically, you chose not to.) If truth be told, I think I have 'contributed' nothing, but am now, in my own little way and in my area of competence, hoping to contribute something in the near future. I guess you and me are the same age. What I did when Municipal President of Margao in 1985-87, you ought to have known -- or found out from old timers among the citizenry, councillors, perhaps even municipal employees themselves ... who hated me while I was in the chair, but I'm told the surviving ones think differently today. Why, you could have asked your own dad, who was a prominent Trustee of the 'Novem Goem Pratisthan' -- at least he might have remembered how I got the then Council (that included present Goa ministers like Digambar Kamat and Babu Azgaonkar, and former ministers like Luis Alex Cardoso) to adopt a policy that the municipality's advertising must go primarily to local newspapers ... Rashtramat Novem Goem, both, alas, defunct. You could have phoned friends who lived in Margao in 1985-87, who might have told you that this rascal called v contributed nothing, but did make a slight difference to their experience with officials/staff whenever they had occasion to visit the municipal offices on their work. Or people in Malbhat or so many other former pigsty places round town ... that one today even boasts of a noted hospital chain in India. You made me open my mouth. But pointers are only what I will utter having done that. From your parting thoughts on me below, may I ask, do you take me for some kind of a crusader? The Crusades happened long ago! This is the era of hard politics, money, and whatever more it takes. I'm not made of the stuff fit to be a politician. That's one reason I politely declined election tickets from established political parties, to contest the Goa Assembly polls from Margao. I will not name names (and embarrass friends who are around), but if you enquire enough locally, you will know I'm speaking the truth. Now to the other part of your original mail (Goanetters still around, please click the 'delete' button, unless you want to die from boredom!) Are you trying to suggest that Digu Kamat and Avdhoot Timblo have done no good to Goa at all? I'm not saying they are saints -- are you and I ?? Take a break. Come to Goa. Ask around. Try and delve into the record of former MLAs elected from Margao from 1963. Heaven bless them, none are around, save my much-esteemed senior friend, Udaybab Bhembre. Then tell me who's done most for Margao. I will repeat: I am not suggesting Digu is a saint, much like me and you. Avdhoot Timblo. Granted, a mineowner (forget he may like to regard himself a nature farmer, of mineral ore.) You and I, and uncles and aunts, have some money. Have you -- not me, to be sure -- spared however a tiny of fraction of it for any contribution to Goa? To keep for posterity a bit of Goan cuisine, music, folklore? At least Anju Avdhoot have done it, like Shivanand Dattaraj (never mind the 'Prince,' Anil.) Please don't take a world view with the goggles of a horse. There's a limit to demonising people... And please don't go off at a tangent, beyond the goalposts set by you in this thread (even by minor things like changing the Subject line, or see
[Goanet] The Third Man
Why would any right-thinking, freedom-loving citizen want to vote for the Congress? Aside from the corruption, they do not believe in democracy! Do we want the whole of Goa to go the Cidade de Goa way? I hope not. As for the BJP, with all the attacks on minorities it goes without saying that this is a Party that is for the fanatical mind, an anomaly in multi-cultural India. Why become a fanatic when we don't have to! But, no, all is not lost! Mathany, if he is anybody, is his own man! He is a fighter who does not quit, is not up for sale, and has the good of Goa at heart. He is the obvious choice. We do not, however, often choose the obvious. All we can do at this point is to wait and watch ...
Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Dear Selma and Uday, I can't be harsh with people like Uday (Dr. UG Barad) and Dr. Samir Kelekar. Because I personally knew/know their respective dads, both Margao residents, and both honourable men. But it's at times pointless discussing with people who keep shifting their premises. I've just signed off and sent a response to Samir, requesting him to refrain from doing this if he thinks he can engage me in any meaningful discussion, almost on the same thread. Here, Uday postgraduates me from questions about being a contributor to Goa in recent times, to being its saviour -- in league with my friend, Churchill Alemao. While I'm glad that Churchill's only family-run football club in India has recently been adjudged No.1 in the country, what more can I say about shifting goalposts? But let's give Uday his due. He spoke of an assumed joke (and I hope Samir won't take offence at being adduced as the joker!) Uday's jocular explanation is a good joke. Bachhon, thaali bhajao! On fact, on all three counts, it's a different joke. Let's leave it here. Best to both, v - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: Barad, At least we know there is one sort of patch-up work Valmiki has not done. Posting articles by others and pretending they are his own work. Selma - Original Message - From: Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:56 PM Subject: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa Are we up to discussing joke about trios who are projecting themselves as savers of Goa! If so I take liberty to explain this joke in nut shell. Timblo is finishing Goa at one end and projecting himself that he is for welfare of Goa at other side of Goa! Digambar helps Timblo for all his misdeeds by even passing special ordinance to protect Timblo to circumvent Supreme Court orders!! And Valmiki is doing good patch-up work to calm down Goans on all the misdeeds done by Timblo Digambar!!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:04:55 +0530 From: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT Congress party has been fooling the people for too long. The April 23rd election is an opportunity for the people of Goa to teach the Congress a lesson. Oh Aires, the man-with-a-zillion solutios to all sundry problems... one but wonders... Can a cannine tail embeded into a hollow bamboo can ever be rendered straight??? Alfred... _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Science
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:06:59 -0400 From: RGrootendorst rgrootendo...@btclick.com Why is there such a shortage of empathy towards our fellow man? I feel shame for the torture, kidnap and rendition of suspect detainees, whereas others feel such inhuman means justify the end. Is Obama comfortable sitting on the fence, boycotting the UN sponsored racism conference, knowing that Israel US have blemished records? He has much on his hands, but I cannot condone the bogus war on terror, or the excessive force it has unleashed. Mario responds: While you ask, Why is there such a shortage of empathy towards our fellow man?, you seem to have a serious shortage of empathy for the victims of terrorism, for the brutality that 25 million Iraqis experienced under Saddam and another 25 million Afghans experienced under the Taliban, especially Afghan women. You also seem to have no empathy for the Jews who survived one Holocaust in Europe only to be attacked by five Arab armies in 1947-48 with the goal of pushing the Jews into the sea. and are now being threatened with being wiped off the map. I wonder whether you have any empathy for the tens of thousands of innocent Indians killed since 1947 in Kashmir and across India by radical Muslims who were not willing to wait for the results of the UN planned plebiscite to determine the future of Kashmir. How much force is excessive when trying to stop someone who is determined to kill someone else? Rita wrote: I know and greatly admire several other eminent English lawyers who take hopeless cases and sometimes win justice, eg. for an Iraqui widow and her two young sons, left fatherless when UK soldiers beat her hotel receptionist husband to death in prison. Mario responds: I wonder if these eminent English lawyers can help the Iraqi man I know with scars on his back who was forced to watch his wife and daughter raped in front of him - ostensibly because a neighbor reported that they had made fun of Saddam - and has several relatives that have not been heard from since 1995? I wonder what the eminent English lawyers can do to help the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis killed in the mindless sectarian violence the Sunni and Shia radicals unleashed against each other in 2003-04, aided and abetted by Al Qaeda, Iran and Syria? Instead of taking advantage of Saddam's removal to re-build their nation and achieve the peace and prosperity that the Americans made possible and most Iraqis have repeatedly voted for since 2003. Where were these eminent English lawyers after Saddam gassed 5,000 of his own people in Halabja? Are they helping the families of the hundreds of thousands of skeletons found in the mass graves filled by Saddam's goons across Iraq? I wonder what the eminent English lawyers can do to help Roxanna Saberi, the Iranian American journalist now rotting in an Iranian jail? http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-saberi19-2009apr19,0,6843493.story
Re: [Goanet] Mystical experiences in Goa
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:43:06 +0530 From: Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in The 'psychedelic experiences' are not MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES of which we are speaking in the discussion of Carmelite nuns and Dr.Mario Beauregard. Richard Dawkins also tried it, but did not succeed. Dr.Santosh will not have the MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES, as we are discussing... Mario responds: Padre Ivo, If Dr. Beauregard cannot make Santosh have mystical experiences like the Carmelite nuns then his theory is bogus, because God does not distinguish between Santosh and the Carmelite nuns - they are all his children made in his image. I learned that in Catechism class. I think Dr. Beauregard may be hypnotizing those poor nuns, or giving them a lot of feni before testing them, which is guaranteed to create mystical experiences:-)) I doubt he can hypnotize Santosh or get him drunk either:-)) BTW, I cannot remember what your theory is anymore, because I remember you agreed several weeks ago that the existence of God cannot be proven or disproven by science. Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:54:50 +0530 From: Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE Science is Science and Religion is Religion. There is no conflict between Science and Religion. Mario asks: Arre, baba, you are chasing your tail, no? If there is no conflict between science and religion then why is it not possible to prove the existence of God by science? If there is no conflict between religion and science then why are you metaphorically wrestling in the mud with Santosh over the conflict between science and religion? Fr. Ivo wrote: But the basis of Christianity is historical, therefore it can be confirmed through historical, scientific, archaeological, cultural tools. Mario asks: So, Fr. Ivo, Can you specify which of these tools you have listed were used to confirm the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection of Christ, His Ascension into Heaven, and the Assumption of Mary into Heaven? While you are at it please explain the scientific explanation for what is the Holy Trinity. Also, can you explain when the Gospels were written relative to the date of Christ's death, by whom they were written, in what language, and why certain Gospels were accepted and others were rejected? Was all this done scientifically? Now, for me to understand, please use standard English, because I can't understand the version that says up is down and black is white and religion is not in conflict with science.
Re: [Goanet] GOA elections - reply to Merwyn
I could answer Merwyn's question as to who fed me that Kevin was going to run against Oscar. I am confidently say that many GOA executive members made enquiries on who is going to challenge Oscar and Kevin's name came up repeatedly. So, there was obviously some concern among the GOA executive. I am told that most of the executive members will be retained for another term. I cannot individually check with each member but I learnt from trusted sources. If I remember correctly, there was also similar talk in hushed whispers after the Goan International Convention last year. Kevin's supporters believed that Kevin did an exceptionally good job in running the event and could do a fine job as GOA president. How many remember that Kevin and his wife Lynette walked out of the hall when Oscar Furtado's turn came to speak at one of the sessions. Oscar felt slighted and wanted to decline speaking but was persuaded to give his presentation on GOA's initiatives and work by fellow executive members. Please, this is part reminder and part clarification. So, I do not wish to reopen the debate. I hope goanetters who are members of GNAT could reply to Merwyn's other points regarding dissolving the organisation, etc. Eugene
[Goanet] Vote for BJP/NDA and make India richer by over 400 billion Dollars
Vote for BJP/NDA and make India richer by over 400 billion Dollars within 100 days To: goa...@goanet.org Message-ID: 106145.72358...@web25908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Joegoauk : Vote for BJP and make India richer by over 400 billion Dollars within 100 days.That sounds good to me.BJP leader Shatrugan Sinha stated in Vasco-Goa that if BJP-led NDA voted back to power, it will bring back all black money from Swiss Accounts within 100 days.He added 'about 6,00,000 villages in India, each will get Rs.4.5 crore for development' So, who you waiting for?Blindly vote for BJP Response: Joe, I think there must be a typographical error in your subject heading. Surely you must have meant 'Vote for BJP and make BJP leaders richer by over 400 billion Dollars within 100 days.' Refer below links to see the probity of BJP members/ leaders. 1. The induction of Neera Yadav, who gained widespread notoriety for being voted the second most corrupt officer in Uttar Pradesh, has left the BJP quite tongue-tied. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4342168.cms 2. The worst sufferer in the scam is main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, whose five law makers appear in the TV video footage that shows how the deals were stuck to serve the interests of non-existent companies. The ruling Congress also did not escape; one of its lawmaker’s figures in the scam. http://www.asiantribune.com/oldsite/show_news.php?id=16424 3. The sting operation also shows Yuvraj Siingh, Personal Secretary of Fagan Singh Kulaste, a former Union Minister, taking money on behalf of BJP MP Chandra Pratap Singh, who was also exposed in the cash-on-camera 'Operation Duryodhan' last week. Yuvraj Singh was again shown accepting money for Kulaste, a Lok Sabha member, who signs the recommendation letter for a particular scheme. Others shown in the sting operation are Ramswaroop Koli (BJP), Paras Nath Yadav (SP), Sakshi Maharaj (Rashtriya Kranti Dal supported by SP), and Isan Singh (BSP). http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=60199 4. The third meeting with Bangaru Laxman took place with Alvin D'Souza, president of West End. Laxman was expecting a sum of around $25,000 from West End. We didn't want to tell them that there was no sum to be delivered till after the meeting when everything would already be on tape. Here Laxman talks about how the BJP and Vajpayee use Principal Secretary Brajesh Mishra as the guy who pushes their deals. Mishra, incidentally, is the National Security Adviser. Both Laxman and West End argue that R.K. Gupta had no hand in the meeting. http://www.tehelka.com/channels/Investigation/investigation26.htm Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Is the PM a liar?
Santosh Helekar: Do you believe it is okay to publicly abuse and slander private citizens with whom you disagree, or whose name, religion or political party is different from yours? Response: Then why do you habitually keep doing it doc? Why do you not practice what you preach? Regards, Marshall
Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
Yes, Barad, I have made big contributions to Goa. Everytime I go on holiday to Goa, I still take atleast 2 three boxes of Maggi cubes. Now, in post-liberation India this is not much of a contribution but in my parents' time, Maggi cubes was the big thing. My mother used to take atleast 10 boxes and distribute them in the village. These cubes were used to make the best pulau, served at festa time. A lot of people ate this pulau, followed by a good belch and afternoon nap. They woke up feeling life is good and worth living. Now just imagine this for 3 to 4 decades my family has contributed maggi cubes to Goa. That is a lot of good pulau and a lot of good belches. What have you done? best, selma --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: Writing articles or posting articles of others or writing provocations can in no way save Goa.And if you have made contributions to save GOA than the trio in question please let Goanet know about it!
[Goanet] RIP Goa?
Dear Goanet readers i am an Optimist and always live in hope which keeps all of us going. Goa is still alive and kicking and we do not need an eulogyas yet. life is depressing enough at the moment in Goa, But Goans have survived through such ordeals. We need people to come out with solutions to save whatever is left of Goa. It might not be the same good old Goa, but we can make it the best state in India When you loose Hope, you stop living! Cheers Anesimol AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.
Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Then why do you habitually keep doing it doc? Why do you not practice what you preach? The above insinuation is a blatant falsehood. I have many faults, but this is not one of them. I have never gratuitously publicly abused or slandered any private citizen. I have only defended myself by telling like it is, and calling a spade a spade when people like Marshall have abused and slandered me. Furthermore, when I exposed the misdeeds of my abusers, or expressed an adverse opinion against them I have provided evidence to back up my claims. I have also exposed habitual abusers in public forums by providing factual evidence against them. I have never attacked anybody who has not attacked me first. Please see what constitutes defamation in a public forum, and the exceptions for criticism and slander of public figures and for adverse fact-based opinions expressed against others in self defense and in public interest. http://www.tax4india.com/indian-laws/criminal-law/defamation/defamation.html Please note that under this law Marshall can be prosecuted or sued for gratuitous defamation of Shrikant for the following: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176514.html Cheers, Santosh P.S. I relish the opportunity to substantiate what I have stated above by using specific examples that Marshall is about to copy and paste from the archives.
Re: [Goanet] ALERT:Film shoot causes sand dune destruction at Rajbhag beach, Canacona in South Goa.
To GOACAN: This, otherwise, excellent exposé is inadequate for lack of names of the MAJORS involved in the project: Please privide names of producers, whether Bolli- or Holiwood, local agents/facilitators et al. Today's Goa news carried about Warners closining a production in Goa due to local factors' ineptitude. Could'nt open the item. Is it one same? Alfred Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:25:01 +0530 From: goad...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] ALERT:Film shoot causes sand dune destruction at Rajbhag beach, Canacona in South Goa. Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED Remember April 22nd is Earth Day - time to act !! --- --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: goad...@bsnl.in --- - Reckless destruction of sand dunes at Rajbhag beach - The former chairperson of Canacona Municipal Council, Mr Ranga Raikar has requested the concerned authorities to stop the destruction of sand dunes and the illegal construction at Rajbhag beach at Canacona by a private company, which, he alleged is destroying the natural beauty of the area. Speaking to 'The Navhind Times' Mr Raikar said that if traditional fisherman and local residents construct a temp- orarily shed at the coastal areas of the Canacona municipality, the chief officer immediately sends a notice to demolish the same promptly. Mr Raikar further said that the Violation of CRZ rules and regulations by film industry at Rajbhag-Talpona stretch, is mercilessly destroying the prominent sand dunes which keep the sea water away from the land during the monsoon. He said the entire Canacona taluka has questioned the wisdom of the authorities, who instead of stopping this environmental disaster, are turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the entire issue. Other environmentalists, including Mr Divakar Desai, said that in order to set the stage and other required infrastructure for a film shoot on the beach, sand dunes have been destroyed near Hotel Intercontinental by a Mumbai based company. He further pointed out that more then sixty per cent of the vegetation has also been destroyed and some Casuarina trees, on a stretch of about half a kilometer have also been cut down by the local agents of the film industry, in the last ten days. This they said has created serious stress on the coastal ecosystem here. Mr Agnelo Fernandes, chief officer of Canacona Municipality said that the permission is granted to erect four temporary structures at Rajbhag beach from April 22 to May 25 on certain conditions. He further confirmed that the structures, which are presently erected, are totally illegal and action will be initiated against them within the next twenty-four hours for violating CRZ rules and regulation. He further said that one Shiva B Naik from Rajbhag, Canacona has asked for temporally permission to erect structures for shooting of a film at Rajbhag beach and he was given temporary permission and also told to obtain permission from the Directorate of Tourism and the Entertainment Society of Goa, Panaji. He was also ordered not to obstruct the way of local residents and tourists, who visit the beach. According to local residents the pathway is totally blocked and they are facing a lot of hardships. The locals at Rajbhag allege that the municipal authorities have issued a temporary license after receiving huge sums of money and accuse the authorities of corruption. They fail to understand why the authorities, citing CRZ violations, refuse to grant permission to unemployed local youth to set up temporary shacks during the tourist season, while no action is being taken against the mushrooming of illegal structures along the coastline. Environmental groups in Canacona have accused the state government of encouraging CRZ violators, including some influential individuals and business establishments, in the name of promoting tourism. -- The Navhind Times 20/4/09 page 02 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: goa...@bsnl.in --
Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar?
Oh my good God... How you chaps go on ... on... Before giving the man a thouroughly horrendous nama either hanging...lynching...or, cruxcifying him give the poor devil a demned lie-test be done with it...! Alfred Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:13:10 -0700 From: chimbel...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is the PM a liar? --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Then why do you habitually keep doing it doc? Why do you not practice what you preach? The above insinuation is a blatant falsehood. I have many faults, but this is not one of them. I have never gratuitously publicly abused or slandered any private citizen. I have only defended myself by telling like it is, and calling a spade a spade when people like Marshall have abused and slandered me. Furthermore, when I exposed the misdeeds of my abusers, or expressed an adverse opinion against them I have provided evidence to back up my claims. I have also exposed habitual abusers in public forums by providing factual evidence against them. I have never attacked anybody who has not attacked me first. Please see what constitutes defamation in a public forum, and the exceptions for criticism and slander of public figures and for adverse fact-based opinions expressed against others in self defense and in public interest. http://www.tax4india.com/indian-laws/criminal-law/defamation/defamation.html Please note that under this law Marshall can be prosecuted or sued for gratuitous defamation of Shrikant for the following: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176514.html Cheers, Santosh P.S. I relish the opportunity to substantiate what I have stated above by using specific examples that Marshall is about to copy and paste from the archives. _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
[Goanet] NEWS: Lokmat to take on Sakaal in Goa with a Marathi edition (LiveMint.com)
Lokmat to take on Sakaal in Goa with a Marathi edition Lokmat is looking to target Hindu-dominated pockets of Goa such as Ponda, Bicholim, Sattari, Sanguem, Pernem and Quepem Anushree Chandran Mumbai: A new battle front has opened up between the Mumbai-based media company Lokmat Group and Pune-based Sakaal Media Group in the race for primacy in the Marathi newspaper space. The Lokmat Group, which publishes newspapers in three languages—Lokmat (Marathi), Lokmat Samachar (Hindi) and Lokmat Times (English)—will be launching the Goa edition of Lokmat on 21 April, with an initial print run of 50,000 copies, according to Bharat Kapadia, director, Lokmat Group. The edition will directly compete with Sakaal’s Gomantak daily that is published out of Goa in Marathi, said Janardan Pandey, business director of media specialist agency Radar of the Mudra Group. Lokmat, according to Kapadia, will be priced at Re1, versus Gomantak’s Rs 3. Lokmat Group already has 16 editions of its three publications across Maharashtra. Kapadia said it is the right time to enter Goa, which has a sizeable Marathi-speaking population. The new edition will have more colour pages than any other existing Marathi publication in Goa, he said. Lokmat is looking to target Hindu-dominated pockets of Goa such as Ponda, Bicholim, Sattari, Sanguem, Pernem and Quepem. Kapadia said: “About 65% Hindus mostly read Marathi newspapers.” Some media buyers, however, say Lokmat’s real target is the Sakaal Media Group, which is its arch-rival in Maharashtra. Sakaal operates in Maharashtra and Goa, and publishes nine editions of various publications. Its print titles in Maharashtra include Marathi daily Sakaal and English daily Sakaal Times. Pandey said Sakaal and Lokmat have fought for leadership positions in prime areas in Maharashtra for many years, even though Lokmat is quite clearly the leader. Lokmat, for instance, recently launched an edition in Pune which is considered a Sakaal stronghold. Similarly, Sakaal launched new editions in Nashik and Kolhapur, which are considered to be strong areas for Lokmat. According to Indian Readership Survey figures published in November, Lokmat has 19,929,000 readers while the total readership of Sakaal is 11,633,000 readers, said Pandey. Sakaal has a daily circulation of at least 989,000 copies (Maharashtra and Goa) and Lokmat sells in excess of 1.4 million copies (in only Maharashtra, till date), he added. Uday Jadhav, chief operating officer, Sakaal, said two of its daily newspapers in Goa, Gomantak in Marathi and Gomantak Times in English, have existed for at least 30 years and it will not be easy for Lokmat to challenge its leadership position in the market. “Lokmat tried to enter the Pune market where we have a stronghold and they have not been able to displace us.” New entrants have not been able to displace the leader in any market, he said, adding that the incumbent always has the first mover advantage. Still, Sakaal is taking steps to counter Lokmat’s debut in Goa. It has already increased colour pages from two to six in Gomantak and Gomantak Times. The group also plans to step up promotional activities in Goa, said Jadhav. Some market observers see Lokmat’s launch in Goa as part of a larger strategy to capture the advertising market in Maharashtra. According to Pandey, advertisers that want to be in Maharashtra want to be in Goa as well. The Maharashtra market is highly competitive in advertising revenue. “Just regional publications alone rake in Rs650 crore of ad revenues, and with English publications, ad revenues spiral to more than Rs1,000 crore,” said Pandey. Separately, the Goa ad market for all daily newspapers is only around Rs50 crore annually, though media buyers say the growth potential is sizeable, given the large migration of people and businesses from Maharashtra to Goa. Anita Bose, a general manager in media buying company GroupM India Pvt. Ltd, agrees that advertisers usually club Maharashtra and Goa as one region because of the huge Marathi-speaking population across both states. “If an advertiser is running a campaign in Maharashtra, chances are that he would want to run it in Goa as well. Lokmat’s entry into Goa will enhance its geographical spread and allow it to command greater ad rates and revenues as a group in Maharashtra,” she said. Overall, Lokmat’s Marathi edition in Goa is expected to spice up a market which already has five Marathi newspapers and four English papers. “The largest Marathi newspaper in Goa so far is Tarun Bharat (with a daily circulation of 41,733 copies), followed by Gomantak (circulation of 28,315 copies). There is a small Konkani paper as well, with a circulation of 4,000 copies. All papers combined (not including Lokmat) would have a daily circulation of two lakh-plus copies,” said Kapadia of Lokmat, while pointing to the readership potential in the market. Devendra Darda, executive director, Lokmat Group, said Goa is a greatly
[Goanet] Goa Tiatr too backing BJP ?
Goa Tiatr too backing BJP ? The trio say ‘ they admire the work done by BJP in just two years in Goa’ They also said ‘Parrikar remained the best minister of Goa all the time’ For this they didn’t only get a huge public applause but they were called once again to sing These three (Trio) on 21st April around 11pm at KA Panjim http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463582496/sizes/l/ It may be reminded, I have brought similar tiatr related report about two years ago where a tiatrist sang in favour of Goa BJP – for that he got mixed response- for and against. Two years latter, the tiatr audience trend is changing, there was not a single one against. audience was 95% of the capacity i.e. about 900 Even the Goa Church seems now swinging towards BJP Check this out Fr. Francisco Caldeira , Director of the Diocesan Centre for Social Communication Media, said: “Catholics are open to the BJP. Even in the past, they had come to power with the help of Catholic votes.” I know, should BJP wins in the south, many will put the blame on Mathany for splitting the votes Back to tiatr Billboard – Tiatr ;’alleo Marat’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463680530/sizes/l/ Others – Stage pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463595128/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463581460/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463582902/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463583466/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3462766773/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Earth Day program by Navelim Forum GOACAN to focus on River Sal Saipem Tollem.
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED Remember April 22nd is Earth Day - time to act !! --- --- Navelim Consumer Forum GOACAN to observe Earth day. --- The Navelim Civic Consumer Forum (NCCF) along with GOACAN and the various Consumer Forums from South Goa will be observing “Earth Day” 22nd April, with a small program near the Saipem Tollem, at the entrance of the Sewage Treatment Plant at Sirvodem, Navelim from 8.30am to10am. NCCF has taken up the issue of cleaning and restoration of Saipem Tollem and River Sal. Recently based on a complaint from NCCF, the Goa State Pollution Control Board had tested some samples and have found heavy pollution in the lake. They have issued directions to other agencies for action, but so far no action is forth coming because of political interference. The main reason for the pollution of the lake is the illegal discharge of sewage into the water body by building Complexes from Margao and Navelim as well the release of untreated sewage by the Government Sewage Treatment Plant nearby. NCCF is worried that in the next 5 to 10 years availability of clean drinking water is going to be a major problem. That is why conservation of the ground water table is very important. Hence NCCF thought of starting a campaign to clean the water bodies and creating awareness amongst people for the need to conserve these water bodies and to be little more responsible citizens, so that we are a part of the solution rather then the problem itself. - Press Statement from Joseph L. R. Vaz , Secretary, Navelim Civic and Consumer navelim@gmail.com - GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: goa...@bsnl.in -- __._,_.___
[Goanet] VOTE FOR DR. LEO REBELLO FROM NORTH MUMBAI
Dear ALL, I believe that the brilliant Leo Rebello is also a humble man. He has taken on India's Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates, and now he is selflessly agreeing to work for the common men and women of North Mumbai. All the best to Leo. I am working with his campaign manager (overseas) - prejident Pandurang Phernandis himself. I encourage each and every GoaNet member to fax (or jpeg) their votes to the North Mumbai constituency office. jc 2009/4/21 Alfred de Tavares alfredtava...@hotmail.com Alleluja...HallelujaHosana...Bickerers...stop Optimists...Rejoice... Our prayers have been answered! For, our Deliverer is at hand... RebaelaiusEcce Candidatus Nostrae...! === A delivered again Alfred Dr Leo Rebello, N.D., Ph.D., D.Sc., M.B.A. is the local candidate. He has 30 years social work experience, brilliant nation building ideas, and holistic vision.
Re: [Goanet] The Third Man
I believe that Joao's post makes reasonable reading. There is (in my opinion) no difference between the Congress and the BJP except that one is more corrupt, the other more prone to communalism. (I do not need to repeat the VideoCD and Vandalism incidents as examples) One continues to destroy Goa's land, the other, Goa's (former) communal harmony. Apart from that, nothing else separates the parties. Many of the individuals who support the party in power are the same corrupt ones who brought down the preceding government (or voted against it). With regard to Matanhy, he is indeed a better candidate than many others, and on that basis alone, he deserves to be voted in. However, let's not get too carried away. A few questions remain: (a) Would the BJP have been able to be in power in Goa without Matanhy's support? (inside/outside whatever) (b) What did he (not) say about the VideoCD ? (c) What did he (not) say when my Velim MLA was physically removed from the House ? (d) What did he (not) say about the above MLA's forged signature situation? So please, do NOT canonise Matanhy yet. The struggle to canonise Padre Jose Vas will become even more difficult. Goans will be thought of as having limited sense. About Aires .another time. jc == Joao Barros-Pereira joaobarrospere...@gmail.com: Why would any right-thinking, freedom-loving citizen want to vote for the Congress? Aside from the corruption, they do not believe in democracy! Do we want the whole of Goa to go the Cidade de Goa way? I hope not. As for the BJP, with all the attacks on minorities it goes without saying that this is a Party that is for the fanatical mind, an anomaly in multi-cultural India. Why become a fanatic when we don't have to! But, no, all is not lost! Mathany, if he is anybody, is his own man! He is a fighter who does not quit, is not up for sale, and has the good of Goa at heart. He is the obvious choice. We do not, however, often choose the obvious. All we can do at this point is to wait and watch .
[Goanet] Goa news for April 22, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** I\'ll introduce Bill seeking special status for Goa: Shantaram Naik - Times of India http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Ill-introduce-Bill-seeking-special-status-for-Goa-Shantaram-Naik/articleshow/4421985.cmscid=1336563849ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNFYN5OjsmRerSKwJI6cPTf_uhlUTg *** Sesa to Raise Iron-Ore Output to Meet Chinese Demand - Bloomberg Sesa Goa Ltd., India's biggest non- state iron-ore exporter, said it will raise production by as much as 30 percent this year as demand for the steelmaking raw material in China exceeds local supply. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091sid=axs6NlshO1Jcrefer=indiacid=1337609548ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNGbEUvfTKqFKEepOnacKP3q6rb7Gw *** No paramilitary forces for Goa: EC - Hindu http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/21/stories/2009042153431100.htmcid=1338275706ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNGU_5BqSlSxwbTkLTzpqRUVoyrN8g *** Warner Bros backs out of \'Goa\' - MSN India roducer Soundarya Rajnikanth in a spot of bother, oursources say. Warner Bros was earlier upset with Soundaya's Ocher Studios for signing up Jai, an actor banned by the Tamil ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=2989484cid=1336074375ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNHe-2ZCTdmCNvNnzKGojv_ABdfadA *** I-League: Team Of The Season - Goal.com B- Sporting surprised everyone by the start that they made and their success relied heavily on a strong defence. Felip Gomes was certthe mainstay of the Sporting backfour. He was solid throughout the season and made ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2009/04/22/1222075/i-league-team-of-the-seasoncid=1337106152ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNED9V9hYwxh1Lup1U0UZmank3eSqw *** Ad featuring Goan regional party leader kicks off row - Thaindian.com aindian.com, ThailandPanaji, April 21 (IANS) A controversial advertisement published in a local English daily Tuesday, showing a Goan regional party candidate with a cross above his head, being beheaded by a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader with a scissor, has created a ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/ad-featuring-goan-regional-party-leader-kicks-off-row_100182750.htmlcid=1338425391ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNGb3JMCOd7KM3NtaG5lt-l6_d4LDg *** Counselling sessions for GU students to begin soon - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: The Goa University has decided to have two on campus professional counsellors in view of the molestation and ragging cases. Goa University registrar, MM Sangodkar, has said that the counselling will begin with the girl that has alleged ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Counselling-sessions-for-GU-students-to-begin-soon/articleshow/4427576.cmscid=1336722399ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNGuBZN06aURJWV429InfZ9pk8zqKw *** Rajnikant daughter\'s tie-up with Hollywood studio ends - Hindustan Times p with Hollywood major Warner Bros forGoa has ended, sources in the know said Sunday. Though the separation in this deal is mutual and final, other major co-production ventures including the animated film Sultan, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=cac2cf1c-795e-44e7-b0a4-76ac14180bd9SectionName=HomePagecid=1338277887ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNHzvpz250xxXh4xHMK1IZTFopSQlQ *** Latvia struggles to meet IMF deficit goa - Life Style Extra Latvia's 2009 budget gap will be 7 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) even if cuts in spending of 40 percent are made, the government said on Tuesday, adding for the first time it will cut social spending too. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.lse.co.uk/MacroEconomicNews.asp?ArticleCode=rv2obp3zaq5u5pmArticleHeadline=latvia_struggles_to_meet_imf_deficit_goal_despite_cutscid=1338259537ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNHmUSwHrUp1iyhJNHHuSuariv6vwQ *** Goan fisherwomen bother Rajeev - Times of India tarrer Peter Gaya Kaam Se was brought to a grinding halt at the fish market in Madgaon by the fisherwomen of Goa. The women were upset over being spoken rudely to by the production guys and expressed their displeasure ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/Goan-fisherwomen-threaten-Rajeev/articleshow/4429000.cmscid=0ei=AFfuSYOTMOWgmAe3sfiGDAusg=AFQjCNHFgTdCE5hdYmtJakPwUVr0sneLrg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] The pseudoscience of integration
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote: Religion is not Science and Science is not Religion. But there is no conflict between Science and Religion. There is only integration. Science and religion have absolutely nothing in common. One cannot and should not integrate the two. Attempting to integrate or mix the two is exactly what is meant by pseudoscience, which is what Fr. Ivo, Gilbert and others are doing. ***Dr.Santosh is in his ivory tower. He is absolutely wrong. He does not understand our view, because he does not know what theology is. Let him read standard theological books and try to refute our statements. What I am saying is not pseudo-science, but what he is proposing to us in the name of Science. There cannot be conflict between Science and Religion. If there is, then there is something to be repaired somewhere. Either Science must expunge superstitions from Religion or Religion should enlighten Science and Ethics of Science (or Philosophy of Science). We are integrating, not mixing, Science within the light of Religion... It is important that lay people be made aware of this scam, and told why it is wrong. Otherwise, they easily fall prey to this feel-good, cultural relativist, fake can't-we-all-get-along nonsense, as is evident from the posts from Rita, Maurice, Albert and others that Mario is fending off on my right flank. This mixing has now become a leftist ideological and political movement. It has led to many shady and unethical New Age practices - various faux health and nutrition cults, the so-called alternative medics mixing their untested remedies with modern drugs, and using this backdoor route to practice modern medicine without a license, as well as engage in outright quackery. ***He does not know what is quackery. What does he mean by untested drugs? Are not homeopathic drugs being tested on human beings? They are efficacious even for animals. Allopathic drugs are tested on guinea pigs. Dr.Santosh is dreaming about our leftist ideological and political movement. What I am doing is Science and Theology, as it should be...integrated in one vision of life and of the world... There cannot be dichotomy... Most physicians have their diploma and license. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Indian Christians seek Angels ban | Entertainment | Reuters
Goanetters, Christians seeking censorship. Again. http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKTRE53K0P520090421?feedTy pe=RSSfeedName=entertainmentNews rubygoes
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia (Lesley A. Esteves)
HI Bernard, No offence man, but since Chef isn't with us anymore i am lets say Im his ''spokes person'' I will ask you what chef would definitely have said to you .. Arre Patrao, why are we looking at a glass half empty ,why not half full? so muchfor your Goenkarponn'' If you have witnessed the years when i played the drums (One year only not really important ) why not add to the content ? This boy (Lesley ) wasn't even born then (And i would second him for certain) We don't have to be ''know it all'' to pen from the heart''--I'm immensely touched so is Chef 's family and close friends.that's what Lesley has done---he touched our hearts like many who loved him so.. Lesley's piece on Chef Fernando Da Costa is undoubtedly straight from the heart... and its a very apt description, a very emotional one and most importantly its sincere. Its also very clear from the onset that the writer approached the subject from what was dearest to Chef and also the reason why they met and bonded---GOAN CUISINE Its very apparent from his ;;header''To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia (Remembering a CHEF/not Remo's drummer!!) The article does mention his wife Margarida (He was married to Imelda Tavora's daughter that's her.). Chef was a multi faceted , immensely gifted person. His dedication to all things GOAN cannot be summed up in one article. It will take a book.Chef was also his own person,i don't see any sense in ''Imelda's son in law'' /Remo blah blah WellThere is a lot to CHEF fERNANDO I WILL LIST SOME FOR OTHER ''BUT THAT IS MISSING'' TYPES!! 1---He PLAYED THE DRUMS FOR YEAR 2 -- He PLAYED THE VIOLIN,GUITAR AND WAS AN EXPONENT OF THE gUMMOT N THUMRI.all HIS LIFE 3Founder MEMBER OF THE Goan CULTURAL TROUPE ''gAVANA'' 4-former Right BACK football sALGAOCARSPORTS club 5--FOUNDER Raia YOUTH assoc 6--Fernando's IS THE ONLY NON FIVE STAR PROPERTY TO BE FEATURED AS THE BEST PLACES TO EAT IN INDIA (4 years running) BY THE WORLD culinary SURVEY. need i go on?i think you get my point? it would be really nice if you could write about his times with the group Remo and companhia ---even i wasn't born then 7---Chef did not have kids and was very attached to his elder brothers children in the joint family he lived in and practically raised and guided the eldest niece n grandchild when his brother passed away at 46. i ought to know .i am her and I rest my case. Dev Borem Korum; Mog Assunim... Zena ps-.i look forward to your piece on my uncles one year as drummer. 2009/4/21 Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या fredericknoro...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk Date: 2009/4/21 Subject: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: To a time that was: remembering an unusual chef from Raia (Lesley A. Esteves) To: goanet@lists.goanet.org The article does not mention Fernando's passion for music. He a was an avid drummer and belonged to the group Remo and companhia. He was married to Imelda Tavora's daughter. BC -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org Sent from Pune, MH, India quot;God heals and the doctor takes the fees.quot; - Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Goanet] Contribution of Valmiki, Digambar, Timblo to Goa
2009/4/21 Valmiki Faleiro valmi...@gmail.com I would never blow my own trumpet to tell you and Goanet what a great Goan contributor I've been. (Would have said this earlier, but was curious to see how you would respond to my earlier rejoinder, which, characteristically, you chose not to.) If truth be told, I think I have 'contributed' nothing, but am now, in my own little way and in my area of competence, hoping to contribute something in the near future. == ( a response based on the teachings of Shri Winston Germao)== Dears, Normally, when Valmiki says/writes something, I dare not challenge him. Alas, today, I must - for I believe that Valmiki is not stating the truth (as we all should know it - by now) Valmiki says that He has contributed nothing. And yet, I read his contributions every week. How can Valmiki tell us untruths? How can he be contributing and yet claim to be not contributing. I humbly ask. Columns and Columns is what Greek and Roman architecture is all about. That is what Valmiki does almost every week. Contribute columns. And Yet, he says: He is not contributing. Wah re Wah ...Valmiki jc ps: I do not keep company with Digambars. There are some beaches in the West which are commandeered by Digambars and Digambaris. Are they responsible for 'environmental degradation' or just the presevation of natural habitat? I do not know. What I know is that there is a distinct possibility that a Tourism Minister from Goa (or Cecil Pinto) might consider a fact finding mission to be a priority.
[Goanet] Chicken - soup
Even through a lot of silliness, there comes some (Goan) sense - if one looks closely at the responses to my post. To Mervyn's point, Goans (mostly women) have long figured out what I wrote. Goans do what Mervyn writes because repeated experience has told them that chicken soup does work for 'pneumonia'. They certainly could give the pneumonia patient a bowl of sorpatel?:=)) The smart Goan women have developed their own test of chicken soup non-responders when they decide to take the patient to the doctor. This is not dissimilar to what I tell patients about Cranberry juice. Use of this juice for this purpose is a practice undertaken by all societies, where Cranberry is grown - from Soviet Union and Poland to USA. Santosh (astutely) suggest antibiotics for elderly pneumonia patient. (see below). Fully agree. This suggest Santosh would not rush with antibiotics for a NON-elderly pneumonia patient, unless of course they have some factor that puts them at increased risk. So how would Santosh treat a non-elderly pneumonia patient (who is not at high risk)? Likely answer: 'Chicken soup' or some home-made concoction by Dr. Mom. So thanks, for pointing out the standard of care is to prescribe antibiotics for selected cases. And by inference, not for every case of pneumonia, where anything else, including herbs etc etc may work just as well as antibiotics or chicken soup; relying on the body's immense ability to heal itself. I hate to point out, in some responses, you do not read or understand the subtleties or gist of what is written, or what you are responding to. I hope you do better reading scientific literature. The high risk patients with pneumonia should use the 'chicken soup' only as adjunct therapy. In some of these, neither should the average allopathis family doctor manage pneumonia, like in patients with AIDS, organ transplant or other immune deficiency disorders. These patients are best referred to an infectious disease specialist or one very familiar with handling pneumonia in these cases. This discussion is not about pneumonia management. Yet the simple diagnoses demonstrates that physicians are not / should not be merely pill pushers. One of the most important roles, for an allopathic doctor in the management of pneumonia, is to make sure that the pneumonia is not masking an underlying lung cancer - be it in a male or female; be it a smoker or non-smoker. Twenty percent of lung cancers occur in non-smokers. This important information may or may not be obtained by web-surfing for pneumonia management.. To summarize whatever one does, the important thing is to appreciate the limitations of ones treatment and ones own experience - which is not obtained by net-surfing or reading Medicine Made Easy:=)). This is my final post on this thread! Those in the back-bench of this 'medical class', in lieu of writing silly posts, are now free to chase the girls ... catch them if you can.:=)) Regards, GL Mervyn Lobo In my experience, most Goans with pneumonia will go to the doctor only AFTER they figure out chicken soup is not working on them. Dr. Santosh Helekar wrote: I want to ask Gilbert if, as a physician, he would recommend that a person who has been diagnosed with pneumococcal pneumonia be treated with chicken soup alone.. The standard of care today mandates that an elderly pneumonia patient be treated with modern antibiotics within 8 hours to substantially reduce the chances of 30 day mortality. ..Dr. Gilbert Lawrence In case of pneumonia, reserve the antibiotics only to those who do not respond to 'chicken soup'. Message: 3 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca Subject: [Goanet] Chicken - soup To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: 870029.43810...@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In case of pneumonia, reserve the antibiotics only to those who do not respond to 'chicken soup'. ..Dr. Gilbert Lawrence Dr. Santosh Helekar wrote: I want to ask Gilbert if, as a physician, he would recommend that a person who has been diagnosed with pneumococcal pneumonia be treated with chicken soup alone. The standard of care today mandates that an elderly pneumonia patient be treated with modern antibiotics within 8 hours to substantially reduce the chances of 30 day mortality. Folks, In my experience,? most Goans with pneumonia will go to the doctor only AFTER? they figure out?chicken soup is not working?on them. ? It is funny (to me) to find out that there are Goan doctors who will even contemplate 'chicken soup' as medication. ? ? Mervyn1650Lobo
Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE
My dear Mario, Thank you for replying to my e-mail. As per e-mail below of KGTS Managing Committee Members and many of us Goankars, you have received a reply to your e-mail. God bless you and cure you of all your many problems and KEEP THE FAITH. === -- PRAYER REQUEST FOR JOSE ROD Dear Friends, We are saddened by the fatal news that Joseph Rodrigues popularly known as Jose Rod, a multi-talented individual hailed as the Super Star of the Konkani Stage, has been diagnosed of 'BRAIN TUMOR' and will be operated at the Hinduja Hospital at Mumbai, India on Thursday 23/04/2009 at 7:00 a.m. A humble request to all, to keep JOSE ROD in your prayers, so that the Almighty God may bless the hands of the surgeons who will be operating on him. Let us pray to Jesus to be present at the operating table for a successful operation. Kindly forward this to all your friends on your mailing list. May the Good Lord bless you in abundance for your prayers. KGTS Managing Committee Members (KUWAIT) kgts...@hotmail.com From: Mario Goveia Subject: [Goanet] Religion and Science From: jane gillian rodrigues Yes, when all else fails, we pray to God for a miracle cure, and God always hears our prayers and cures us. Mario asks: HE does? Are you suggesting that those who die every day do not pray for a miracle cure?
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[Goanet] Infotech Corporation
Dear Goans, Ive recently heard this word Infotech Corporation...i would like to know more about this corporation can someone please update. Kind regards Cedric Da Costa UAE/Goa
Re: [Goanet] RELIGION AND SCIENCE
From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net --- On Sun, 4/19/09, MD mmdme...@gmail.com wrote: Science is no match for religioud (sic) belief. Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com But good faith is not good science. That is all I am saying. I am forced to say it because of the false claims made by Fr. Ivo, and now Gilbert, that their religion is scientific. Mario observes: As a practicing Catholic and a believer in objective science, it continues to boggle the mind when otherwise serious individuals confuse science and faith, which is the basis of religion. ***Mario, I am not confusing Science with Faith. But what is faith for you? Beliefs without any historical-scientific basis? We can always eleborate these points. I have already given some of them. Several weeks ago I got Fr. Ivo to agree that the existence of God cannot be either proven or disproven by science; which should have ended this thread right there. Yet, a month later, the verbal mud-wrestling continues, much to my amazement and amusement, especially Fr. Ivo's very personal version of English as I highlighted in http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-March/175446.html The belief in the existence of God or a supernatural being is based on faith and some circumstantial evidence that does not constitute scientific proof beyond a reasonable doubt. ***Why do you believe in God? Review this question. I only repeated that Science does not prove nor disprove the existence of God. Does it mean that there are no grounds for the existence of God. Is Science the only source of knowledge? Christian faith is historical faith, not mythical, therefore it has historical-scientific basis. Not scientific, in the sense that it can be empirically proved, like physical phenomena, but in its historical background (as much as scientific test can do for the spiritual-supernatural phenomena with their sensible wrappings), its consequences, individual and societal... We know that even the saintly Mother Theresa was wracked by doubts about the existence of God and worked to do good in spite of it. ***I am afraid that even Mother Teresa would not agree with Mario. We speak of spiritual aridity. Saints like Teresa of Avila and Teresa of Lisieux had 'spiritual aridity', they could not find consolation and 'sensible' happiness. Mother Teresa could not have doubts about the existence of God. She was praying before the Eucharistic Jesus (Blessed Sacrament) every day. She was embracing the ostracised people because she could see the image of God in them. She told her Spiritual Father about it. My stand should be clear: I only said from the very outset that Science neither proves nor disproves the existence of God, because Science does not deal with the existence of God. It is theology that deals with the existence of God. Therefore, to say that that should have ended this thread right there is wrong. Because if Science does not tell us of the existence of God--nor can Science do this job--it does not mean that we deny the existence of God. Religion tells us about God. Reason speaks to us. What good is being convinced that God exists and not living what that should mean on a day-to-day basis? On the other hand, wouldn't God approve of someone who cannot believe HE exists but lives their lives as if HE did - in the true Christian spirit - anyway? ***How can also be easy doing good without faith in God? Jesus himself spoke to us about his intimacy with the Father (God) and told us to do good.If Mother Teresa has done what she did, it is because she lived in communion with God. I have always argued that once we accept and live by at least the last seven of the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule and the Sermon on the Mount, the rest is all window dressing and a full employment scheme for thousands of religious persons. ***Who has given Ten Commandments? Who has spoken of Golden Rule with its new foundation, and the Sermon on the Mount? If Jesus of Nazareth has spoken to us, what did he say about God? In the meantime, as a cancer survivor who had to put up with the most Godawful stuff dripped into me, not to mention the cutting and stitching and burning with mysterious rays I had to endure - all of which worked splendidly in my case, I would rather follow the serious debate on why untested placebos have become so popular in the practice of medicine. ***Homeopathy has its benefits. This is clear. I am not telling you to follow only homeopathy, leaving allopathy. Both can work in these cases. Allopathy can work together with the adjunct therapies. By the way, they are white small wonderful pills, not pink pills. Dr.S.C.Madan and Dr.S.R.Wadia would be able to tell you better about your disease. Regards. Fr.Ivo
Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup
Gilbert is mistaken. I would advise any person with pneumonia, irrespective of his age, to consult a competent physician who practices modern evidence-based scientific medicine. I would never prescribe him/her chicken soup alone. I know that all patients with bacterial pneumonia, irrespective of age, have to be treated with antibiotics. The same with mycoplasma pneumonia. Only viral pneumonia patients, especially those with influenza virus, have no specific curative treatment available to kill the bug. They have to be advised simple rest, nutrition and fluids. The chicken soup business is a purely anecdotal tradition in the west. Here are a couple of helpful websites on pneumonia from Mayo Clinic and WebMD. Please note that they say nothing about chicken soup. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/pneumonia/DS00135/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/pneumonia-treatment-overview Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Santosh (astutely) suggest antibiotics for elderly pneumonia patient. (see below). Fully agree. This suggest Santosh would not rush with antibiotics for a NON-elderly pneumonia patient, unless of course they have some factor that puts them at increased risk. So how would Santosh treat a non-elderly pneumonia patient (who is not at high risk)? Likely answer: 'Chicken soup' or some home-made concoction by Dr. Mom.
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Re: [Goanet] RIP Goa?
When you loose Hope, you stop living! I second the above. Well said Doc. B/rgds floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: anesim...@aim.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:17 PM Subject: [Goanet] RIP Goa? Dear Goanet readers i am an Optimist and always live in hope which keeps all of us going. Goa is still alive and kicking and we do not need an eulogyas yet. life is depressing enough at the moment in Goa, But Goans have survived through such ordeals. We need people to come out with solutions to save whatever is left of Goa. It might not be the same good old Goa, but we can make it the best state in India When you loose Hope, you stop living! Cheers Anesimol
[Goanet] BBC NEWS | South Asia | One man, one vote in Indian forest
Goanetters, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8009522.stm Long live Democracy! rubygoes
