[Goanet] Talking photos: Mitta Agor (Salt Pans)
Talking photos: Mitta Agor (Salt Pans) Salt and salt pans near Curca, Goa-Velha (Goa-Velha –Curca Road) Salt Pan locally known as ‘Mitta Agor’ Mitt koxem toyar zata? (how salt is formed) (As I remember it from my school) They take sea (salty) water in this small small compartments called ‘pans’ Water then stored there till it get evaporated by the hot sun What’s remained behind is the raw/wet salt which is pulled up or collected to one corner of the span. Little by little, the collected or gathered wet salt forms a hip or pyramid which after draining or drying turns into pure white crystal salt ( as can be seen in the pics) Ready salt, pans with its corners http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3486225537/sizes/l/ Pans with wet salt in it http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3492470636/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3491652615/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3491651589/sizes/l/ People at work – gathering/collecing raw salt, forming of pyramids/hips http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3491650637/sizes/l/ Salt ready for sale http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3486226701/sizes/l/ Usually sold by tins (about 10kg?) I think there are salt pans near Asolna, Panjim-Ribandar road Do you know anywhere else? joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Ponda murder accused confesses to killing third woman
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be better informed CONSUMERS. --- --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: goad...@bsnl.in --- Ponda murder accused confesses to 3rd killing --- Mahanand Ramnath Naik confessed on Sunday to having murdered a third woman at Khandepar in 1995. He had earlier admitted to having killed two other women, one each from Shiroda and Ponda, for their money. Ponda DySP, Serafin Dias informed that according to Mahanand’s confession, he had taken Vasanti Anant Gaude, 19, from Vadalwada Madkaim in his rickshaw on September 11, 1995 to Khandepar and killed her by strangulating her with her own dupatta. He also confessed to having thrown the body into the Opa river. PI C L Patil said that Mahanand first took Vasanti to a plantation behind the water treatment plant at Opa, but not finding a suitable place to kill her, decided to go elsewhere. He then too Vasanti to a plantation near Khandepar bridge at about 12 noon. After eating biscuits and sipping soft drinks, Mahanand snatched Vasanti’s dupatta and strangulated her. He then removed her gold chain and Rs 500 from her purse and threw the dead body into river Opa, police said quoting the accused. The PI said that after killing the women Mahanand sold their jewellery. Vasanti’s gold chain was sold the same day to a goldsmith in Ponda and the accused joined other rickshaw drivers at about 2 pm and remained at the stand till 6 pm before going home as usual, PI Patil said. Mahanand used the same modus operandi all three times and the police are searching their records for unsolved cases of missing women to determine if Mahanand may have killed any more women. Police had arrested Mahanand on April 21. -- Times of India (Goa) 04/5/09 page 1 -- -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: goa...@bsnl.in --
[Goanet] Daily Grook #396
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[Goanet] Wockhardt and Joquim Alemao
>Terming the NUSI-Wockhardt management as stubborn, >Labour Minister Joaquim Alemao warned that the people >will not allow Wockhardt to run the hospital. “For how >many days will they run the hospital with police protection”, >he sought to know and reminded the police and government >that Cuncolim is a land of freedom fighters where the people >will go to any extent to fight injustice. Will Joaquim Alemao publicly declare how much money he took from Wockhard to give it permission to start the hospital ? Joaquim Alemao talking about freedom fighters is an insult to freedom fighters. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Talking Photo: Sax, I love it!
Sax, I love it! http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3498070451/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (5May09)
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[Goanet] Stage is set for May Queen Ball 2009 show
Gulf Times: 04/05/2009 Stage is set for May Queen Ball 2009 show Jimmy Moses: Comedian A number of prizes await audiences at May Queen Ball 2009 to be hosted by Goan Welfare Association on Thursday at The Diplomatic Club. Prizes will be given in the form of gold coins and electronic items, apart from KLM's Doha-Amsterdam-Doha ticket for the winner of May Queen Ball. For the first time since the event started about a decade ago, two properties in India will be given away as prizes. Prizes also include stay of seven nights for four in Goa. The winner of the competitions will be eligible to participate in the May Queen Ball to be hosted by Bahrain's Young Goans Club. Simon D'Silva, president of the association, said yesterday that apart from the crowning of the May Queen 2009, several other fun-filled entertainment events have been planned at this year's show. Prominent Goans from Gulf States will be among those attending the celebrations, he said. Francis Correia, president of Young Goans Club Bahrain, will lead a 15-member group at the May 9 event, said the organisers. Chairman of Goan Cultural Center Carmo Santos, and president of Colva United Centre, also of Kuwait Alex Fernandes and team members will grace the show, according to the organisers. Added attractions of the event would be Slumdog Millionaire choreographer Longinus Fernandes' dance sequences of "Jai Ho" and "Pappu Can't Dance ." and Bollywood comedian Jimmy Moses' comedy and mimicry. One of Goa's leading bands, Forefront, will render a performance during the event. A newscaster on one of the regional GCC channels, Karishma Fernandez, and presenter and Goa's ace compere Updesh Swar will be the mood-setters. Following the requests from the community, ticket sales have been extended to tomorrow, said D'Silva. Tickets are available at Centrepoint (Al Saad), Kebab King (4433118/9), Designer Tailors (4325478) and Goan Art Tailors. Splash is the title sponsor and Qatar Airways is the official airline. Gulf Times is the official newspaper and Ramada Plaza is the official hotel. http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=288579&version=1&template_id=36&parent_id=16
Re: Scandal at Goa University - Bare Facts from Agostinho Proen�a
There is however the 'angle' that the entire sexual harrassment has been enacted and pushed forward to save the ragging culprits. And it is possible that the alleged accused in the sexual harrassment case is a victim of the internal politics of the University as well as the dirty politics of political parties. I fail to understand why Manohar Parrikar had to be involved in the first place in the affairs of the University. Were there no other 'non-political' personages in Goa who could be approached to look into this matter?? I have filed an RTI application asking for the relevant details of the 'sexual' as well as 'ragging' encounters, as I happen to know Prof. Aureliano Fernandes very well and I will want this entire thing to be thoroughly investigated, impartially, at the highest level, without any political influence whatsoever and the culprits brought to book irrespective whether it is Aureliano Fernandes, the ragging masters and mistresses and the sexual live bombs parading in the University as students. I have also written to the Prof. S Thorat, Chairman, University Grant Commission (U G C), with copies to the Justices of the Supreme Court as well as the Ministry of HRD, New Delhi to request for a thorough impartial and unbiased high level investigation in the matter. floriano lobo Moira 9890470896
[Goanet] Fwd: Clubs Summoned For license/ Registration Renewal Official Press Release from GFA---------
The folowing press note has been issued by the Goa football Association(GfA) pls do carry . thanks n Regards Zena -- Forwarded message -- From: Savio Messias Date: Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:52 PM Subject: Press Note To: Zena Costa All the football clubs affiliated to the Goa Football Association, which have not renewed the registration for the 2009-10 season are hereby reminded that the last date for submitting the forms is 15th May 2009. Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Yahoo! Edition * Click here!
[Goanet] A visit to Asilo de Majorda (Azilant, alberint or Home for the aged)
A visit to Asilo de Majorda (Azilant, alberint or Home for the aged) It was not a planned visit. I just remember it as we were passing that way. (Also because I knew one lady who has been recently admitted there). Last time I Visited Alber was around late 1980’s. Majorda is very famous for it’s Alber(i). This (Alber) must has come from Portuguese word. Perhaps, alberque? Often, we or tiatrist say ‘ Maim alberint asa or alberint vetam’ which is same as ‘Azilant asa or Azilant vetam’ I am sure ‘Azil’ has come from ‘Asilo’ which is again a Portuguese word meaning ‘Asylum’ There was a bust stop near the Majorda Asilo, and when the bus is about to reach there the conductor or the Klindder (Cleaner) of the bus used to shout ‘Alberikode Alberikode, konn deunta, konn deunta’ eaning ‘we are arriving near the Asilo stop, any one alighting? Majorda Calata, is also famous for its St. Roque Chapel which is on the main road close to asilo. And very close to that chapel, I remember many parents with their new born babies used to visit a house (a quack doctor?) commonly known as ‘bhurgeamghe noll moddpacho dotor’ I still don’t know what’s ‘Noll’ or what’s it’s English equivalent or whether this doctor or practice still exist. Ok, coming back to Alber or Azil. The large old Portuguese house (see pic) seems to have donated to Govt or the authorities to run it as an old aged home. This alber must be there long before 1961. It has large rooms with a small famiily chapel/altar (see epic). Inmates: Presently there are about 26 women (this asilo is for women only). They (most) love to see visitors, they love to talk to the visitors. Please visit the one or some near you at least once in your life time. Who know? We could end up there too. Remember AMFT? (Aiz Maka Faleam Tuka). There are about 9 government run Asilos (home for the aged. I got this from the net) Viz. Chimbel, Panaji, Mapusa, Candolim, Margao, Majorda, Loutolim, Chinchinim Cuncolim.. I asked one lady ‘ Koxi asa, tumger kitlim bhurgim?’ How are you, how many sons/daughters you have?. She replied promptly ' amgher konn nam’ none. But later on I was told she has more than 2 but she don’t want to talk about them. A lady has 3 sons and 3 married daughters. All well settled. One son in Gulf, another has his own business and the third works in Goa. Again, two of her grand sons (only sons) are young tarvotti (working on cruise ship). This lady is a mother of 8 (2 died). Yet, there was another lady who joined on her own, It seems, she came straight from her home after her only son (married) slapped her on her face. There was a large room with at least 11 beds/inmates (dormitory type). Besides, these govt. run asilos, I am sure there are at least a dozen more rune by church/nuns and other charity organizations. One Such I notice at Navelim when I was roaming in the feast fare last year. Also, there is one at Benaulim run by nuns. Please come back if you know any others with addresses (if known). Also, it would be nice if any body come back on this: - What’s alber or how we got it ? - Any info on the Majorda Asilo house, its age, owners etc There was a name/marble plaque at the entrance which I only notice in the pic Majorda Asilo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3502400493/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3502401555/sizes/l/ altar/chapel http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3502399621/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Press Note
Press Note Panjim: 04th April, 2009 Dalgado's 154th Birth Anniversary Dalgado Konkani Akademi (DKA) will observe the 154th birth anniversary of Mons. Sebastiao Rudolf Dalgado on 8th May, 2009 from 9. 45 a.m. onwards with a full day programme at the Black Box, Kala Akademy, Panjim. Dr. Olivinho Gomes, a renowned Konkani writer and the former Head of Department of Konkani in Goa University will be the Chief Guest. The President of DKA, Shri. Premanand Lotlikar will preside over the function. The brief inaugural function will be followed by a workshop on writing of 'Short Stories' in Konkani. Shri. Damodar Mauzo, Sahitya Akademy award winner, will guide the participants on writing and on finer aspects of 'Short Stories'. The post lunch session will be on the writing of 'Novel' in Konkani. This session will be conducted by Shri. Pundalik Naik, Sahitya Akademi awardee and the Chairman of Advisory Committee for Konkani, Sahitya Akademy, Delhi. Both sessions will be chaired by Shri. Tomazinho Cardozo, President of Tiatr Akademi Goa. These workshops are being organized in order to improve the quality of 'Short Stories' and 'Novels' in Konkani. All Konkani writers particularly writers of Konkani in Roman script are invited to attend the workshops. Those interested may contact the Secretary of DKA, Jose Salvador Fernandes or the office in charge Mr. Caitano Pereira , on or before 7th May, 2009.
Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup
Fr. Ivo C. de Souza wrote: > Hodgkin's disease is incurable. Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:27:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar I have no idea why this type of dangerous false information regarding public health and safety is being spread in this forum. How far will this parade of ignorance be taken to mislead Goanetters on this important matter about their lives? 80% of patients with Hodgkin's Disease today are cured with proper modern medical treatment. Please see the following information provided by the American Cancer Society: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_4x_How_Is_Hodgkin_Disease_Treated.asp?sitearea= Mario adds: As the lone voice of reason, truth and peace on Goanet, I strongly suggest that medical matters, especially for serious illnesses and diseases, be left to physicians and medical scientists. No physician is going to prevent you from drinking chicken soup until you start clucking yourself, but only in conjunction with serious medications for serious illnesses. If you start clucking or growing feathers clearly you have gone too far:-)) The Padres and other fervent religious types should perhaps restrict themselves to advocating for the benefits of prayer and hope and a positive attitude that are known to assist patients undergoing medical treatment, but in conjunction with, not as an alternative to, real medicine, which should be left to REAL physicians. As a non-physician I have learned that the claims on behalf of alternative medications are really the placebo effect on the mind in action. Rather than try to explain this, I will suggest some articles I found interesting: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2582669 http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro03/web1/ckaminski.html http://www.ncchta.org/execsumm/summ303.htm
[Goanet] Religion, Science & Politics!!!!!!!
I believe Goanet and Goanet members are Secular(!). Based on this assumption I would like to conclude above subject saying Religion at no cost can be intermixed with Politics. Secondly Religion can never and ever get intermixed with Science If at all any personality is trying to say that Religion, Politics and Science can make a cocktail I would only say Sorry for such thinkers Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Goa news for May 5, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** From football in Goa to fame in Jo\'burg - Hindustan Times & http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=6d1ba3e4-ffbd-497f-be1c-d6ab609e555b&SectionName=Cricket&cid=1344736360&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNHXUfxFSA8NO-AjoCfPO_YTYAv9-w *** Mangalore: Vimukthi Federation Presents Goan Konkani Tiatr \'Vishwas\' - Daijiworld.com nbsp; http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=59494&n_tit=Mangalore%3A+Vimukthi+Federation+Presents+Goan+Konkani+Tiatr+'Vishwas'&cid=0&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNECG1qn1wlz8v7WYyVzPzkpOjLc6Q *** Row over offshore Goa casinos - Times of India & http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Row-over-offshore-Goa-casinos/articleshow/4478841.cms&cid=1345532818&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNEDoLFy12_twfET3ZC1YGhXv_TqGg *** Goa University officials sitting on sexual harassment complaint - SamayLive nbsp; http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.samaylive.com/news/goa-university-officials-sitting-on-sexual-harassment-complaint/623732.html&cid=1345795332&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNFLcpoNh56_qqdGiK5dNTIGOg5uKg *** Forest officials groping in darkness over tiger death - Indopia aharashtra. The investigation, which began after a photograph of a tiger trapped and dead appeared in some ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/563334/National/1/20/1&cid=1344286986&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNEpj9rOU542dEELTjoO1oTzEIS3bg *** Checks on pork in Goa as pigs die in Maha - Times of India mes of India, IndiaPANAJI: Despite reports that 1200 pigs have died during the last 10 days in Maharashtra, pork and livestock that has entered Goa from across the border will be sold. Local pork vendors have, however, sought help from the animal husbandry department to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Checks-on-pork-as-pigs-die-in-Goa/articleshow/4477405.cms&cid=0&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNFLWqYQeFrhSzHaVsZbaBxgrsij5A *** SC to hear SLP on cabinet status to Goan politicians tomorrow - Indlaw.com dlaw.com, IndiaThe Special Leave Petition, challenging the conferment of cabinet status on three Goan politicians, is likely to come for hearing by the Supreme Court tomorrow. Social activist and advocate Aires Rodrigues had filed the SLP challenging the order of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.indlawnews.com/Newsdisplay.aspx?7cbc9642-8f09-40d8-b1e3-4c62a9932b5a&cid=0&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNHT95rSBMgU6z1YOljPU_Ky5oNiDw *** Goa asked not to change dental college admission rules - Thaindian.com the state's only state-run dental institute - as the regulations of the Dental Council of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/goa-asked-not-to-change-dental-college-admission-rules_100188231.html&cid=1345805137&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNGuWLpJso3Gf6g9VNyCWcZTbQShOQ *** Goa\'s the place for fun! - Times of India o-regular tunes. They spread their night at a club in Candolim. They performed a stage show of music over the ages. Jazz, swing, rock ˜n' roll, rock, retro, disco and a touch ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goas-the-place-for-fun/articleshow/4479172.cms&cid=0&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNH3pevd4o3yp4xyMlZmEGh73wQQzA *** Despite odds, Russians rush to Goa - Times of India oing Russians this season, the sunhas continued to shine in Goa. Even as the coastal state with its palm-fringed coastline and sun-soaked beaches saw a drop in ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Despite-odds-Russians-rush-to-Goa/articleshow/4480032.cms&cid=1345480756&ei=eXr_SaKIMMWdlQfswqjEDw&usg=AFQjCNHGYnpz-Fr0xYeAWopjtQxCyx12Kg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Goa Labour Minister takes to the street on hospital workers issues at Cuncolim.
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be better informed CONSUMERS. --- --- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC) Email: goad...@bsnl.in --- NUSI-WOCKHARDT LABOUR ISSUE Indefinite agitation begins, protestors demand reinstatement of employees. Threaten to get Occupancy Certificate of hospital revoked --- Amidst unprecedented security, employees of NUSI hospital and residents of Cuncolim on Sunday began an indefinite agitation outside the hospital premises demanding reinstatement of the 24 employees within continuity of service. While the protestors vowed not to allow any new patients in the hospital till the striking workers are reinstated, the huge police force led by Superintendent of Police, Allan De Sa ensured the road leading to the hospital was kept open for traffic. A visibly agitated Labour Minister and Cuncolim MLA, Joaquim Alemao later warned that he would not remain a silent spectator if the protestors are harmed by the police, while Cuncolim Municipal Chairperson Filon Vaz assured the people that he would call an emergency meeting of the Council to revoke the Occupancy Certificate issued to the NUSI-Wockhardt hospital. The people have also resolved to call on the management of Sociedade Agricola dos Gauncares to revoke and cancel the land lease with the NUSI hospital. The indefinite agitation began at 9 am when Union leader Raju Mangueshkar, while addressing the workers, thundered that no hospital can be run continuously with police around and termed it as a moral victory for the striking employees. “How many days and months would the management take police protection to run the hospital”, he wondered. Leader of the striking workers Union Oscar Martins said the people of Cuncolim will not allow any new patients in the hospital and warned the management and the police force not to play with Cuncolkars. “The land belongs to Cuncolim. We will not allow any patients inside till the demands are fulfilled”, he said, while making an appeal to the people not to refer any patients in the hospital. Addressing the people, Cuncolim Municipal Chairperson Filon Vaz said the city Fathers will solidly remain with the people and disclosed plans to call an emergency meeting to discuss the issue of revocation of Occupancy Certificate issued to the hospital. “The Council had issued the Occupancy Certificate based on political pressure. The hospital have not complied with our conditions”, he rued. Terming the NUSI-Wockhardt management as stubborn, Labour Minister Joaquim Alemao warned that the people will not allow Wockhardt to run the hospital. “For how many days will they run the hospital with police protection”, he sought to know and reminded the police and government that Cuncolim is a land of freedom fighters where the people will go to any extent to fight injustice. Asserting there will be no compromise on the 24 workers, Alemao said he would lead the employees to the Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat after his return from the USA next. An agitated worker Manush Rege threatened to self immolate with his children if the management fails to reinstate the workers. “I am ready to die near the gate with my children. For the last two months, we have been starving”, he said. The 24 employees have refused to join the new Wockhardt management on probation after putting in years of service in the NUSI hospital. They have demanded their reinstating in the new management with continuity of service, which has been refused by Wockhardt management. The area infront of the hospital was virtually converted into a fortress with the police mobilising a huge force to tackle any law and order situation. Armed IRB platoons were deployed around the area and DySP Shamba Sawant was seen personally ensuring that no one assembled close to the gate or the road leading to the hospital. HERALD 04/5/09 page 3 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: goa...@bsnl.in --
Re: [Goanet] cancer free for the last 25 years
Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 22:54:16 -0700 From: Viviana I've always said that if you can survive it, having cancer is an experience that transforms your life in a positive way. Mario adds: Realizing that I could have been silenced prematurely, it made me determined to become Goanet's lone voice of reason, truth and peace:-)) What can the malcreads do to me that I haven't been through already?:-))
Re: [Goanet] Career in Ayurveda!
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: > > Well the options for Ayurvedic graduates, i.e., after BAMS > .can be as > follows- > To do Ayurvedic practice/ mix practice ( Ayurved & > allopathy ) as a G.P. ( > General practitioner > I have no idea how they are ethically and legally allowed to practice both, if indeed they are. As if a lack of understanding of the genuine science behind any disease is not enough, the utter ignorance about potentially dangerous interactions between conventional drugs and untested Ayurvedic preparations would make this type of hodge-podge practice criminal. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Please suggest a picnic spot
Joe, I suggest Vagator & Anjuna. Olga Maciel _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/
[Goanet] Please suggest a picnic spot
Dear Joe, Can I suggest Japanese gardens in Vasco behind the military camp.You can seat in the gardens and admire all the flowers and trees. Also it has beautiful views across the sea. Then if you get tired of sitting down on the lawns you can walk down the cliffs to the beach. In addition there are various gaddos (food vendors) who can ply you with bhaji pooris, batata vaddas and other victuals. Regards Ignatius Fernandes _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/
[Goanet] Fw: Picketing the Revolution: 'Their' Revolution,
- Original Message - From: "goasuraj" To: "Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha" Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Fw: [Goanet] Picketing the Revolution: 'Their' Revolution, Dear Livia and Jorge, Frankly speaking, To tell you the fact, This is what I said after hitting the bottom of your post My Gawd. 'Livia et Jorge has done me a great honour'. Thank you Livia et Jorge for the kind words. This is actually a shot in the arm for people who are consistently trying to call the bluff of hypocrites like Karmali and others who pride in calling themselves Goa's Freedom fighters only to keep on collecting their pensions to the detriment of us, the tax-payers. I don't want to go over it again, but Jose Francisco Martins of Salvador Do Mundo has burnt the history books proudly preserved by these fake freedom fighters just before he died. (And mind you, I was there to put a handful of mud over his coffin) And I am the sole witness to that scene when with tears rolling down his cheeks, he told me that he would do everything in his power, if he could, to reverse the freedom fight and bring the Portuguese back to Goa. He admited that working against the Portuguese was a cardinal sin that he has committed. His patriotism is not lessened by these sentiments but goes a long way to say how frustrated he was with the 'trash' that replaced the Portuguese. I too have been anti Portuguese since I was a kid, in that I have always been patriotic towards my nation. And that nation of mine has always been not India but GOA. And I shall defend my nation with my blood, if required, and not let it be degraded by the likes of the hypocrites calling themselves the 'Goa's freedom fighters' along with their accomplishes like L K Advani and the whole lot. Once again, thanks a lot to you two from the bottom of my heart for the resounding recognition of the true sons of GOA. Long Live Goa, the nation of Goans, worldwide. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Livia/Jorge de Abreu Noronha" To: Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Picketing the Revolution: 'Their' Revolution, Dear Floriano Bab, I dare not enter into this discussion as I will be crushed by the wheels of a Roller Coaster driven by the so called blind folded Freedom Fighters or
Re: [Goanet] Pleae suggest a picnic spot
in the sky, the best place ever --- On Mon, 5/4/09, JoeGoaUk wrote: From: JoeGoaUk Subject: [Goanet] Pleae suggest a picnic spot To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 11:54 AM - It can be anywhere in Goa. - It's for about 50-70 people - Family type annual picnic - visitng 2 or 3 spots also considered provided they are on the same route or close by Thanks for your help joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Chicken - soup
Thanks Dr. Santosh Helekar. I also have doubt whether any authority in Ayurveda will be in a position to give such an clear cut answer in respect of Cancer. Shrikant Barve http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-May/177240.html --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Fr. Ivo C. de Souza wrote: > > Hodgkin's disease is incurable. > I have no idea why this type of dangerous false information regarding public health and safety is being spread in this forum. How far will this parade of ignorance be taken to mislead Goanetters on this important matter about their lives? 80% of patients with Hodgkin's Disease today are cured with proper modern medical treatment. Please see the following information provided by the American Cancer Society: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_4x_How_Is_Hodgkin_Disease_Treated.asp?sitearea= Here is the relevant quote: "In recent years, many advances have been made in treating Hodgkin disease. Most newly-diagnosed patients can be cured with chemotherapy and radiation therapy." Please do not trust any of the material pertaining to medical science and health in the post appended below. It is completely bogus. Most people today do not die from cancer. The five-year survival for cancer today is 66% in the U.S. The death rates for most common cancers such as breast, lung, stomach, prostate, blood, lymphoid tissue, colon and rectum, uterus, etc., have declined sharply over the last couple of decades from their peaks in the 70's and 80's when Dr. Borges was treating cancer patients. Many cancers are completely curable even in advanced stages as I had pointed out earlier. I can substantiate every single statement of mine with reliable data from responsible sources. Cheers, Santosh Shrikant Vinayak Barve Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Yahoo! Edition http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/firefox/?fr=om_email_firefox
Re: [Goanet] NATIONAL LIBRARY OF AYURVEDA (NLAM)
Thanks Shrikant very informative It always makes me happy to read about the progress. Attached is something which may interest you. Regards, Jose Goa Last Updated: January 2009 Goa, a tiny emerald land on the west coast and the 25th state in the Union of India has emerged as one of the most developed states in India. The state is amongst the most preferred investment destinations in the country with foreign direct investment inflows from January 2000 to May 2007 amounting to US$ 183 million. The economy of Goa is based on tourism, mining, agriculture, commerce and trade, manufacturing and fisheries. Goa has emerged as an important tourism destination in the country, both for domestic and foreign tourists. The state is emerging as a manufacturing base for several leading companies in areas like fertilisers, tyres and tubes, cement, electrical machinery, fish net making machines, automatic washing machines, printed circuit boards, pharmaceuticals, pharmaceutical machinery and so on. Goa has the best infrastructure in the country in terms of bank deposits and credit facilities. In terms of per capita deposits, Goa is next only to Delhi and Chandigarh. begin 666 clip_image001.gif M1TE&.#EA`0`!`'<``"'_"TU33T9&24-%.2XP& QM
Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup. Correct / Incorrect / Over-the Top.
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > SH: The following cancers are completely curable even in > advanced stage ... Incorrect. > Perhaps, Gilbert is not aware of the latest advances in cancer cures in cutting edge research centers such as the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle and M. D. Anderson Cancer in Houston. That is why he does not know that the cancers I listed are completely curable even in advanced stages. Here is a list of curable cancers provided by Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center: http://www.fhcrc.org/science/education/courses/cancer_course/clinical/treatment/curable.html Please note that despite the confusing assertions that Gilbert has made in his above post this pre-eminent cancer research center clearly uses the term "curable cancers". The words "cure" and "curable" are used by all responsible sources such as the American Cancer Society, National Cancer Institute and the peer-reviewed scientific medical literature. Here is a list (longer than I have provided) of cancers that are "curable with chemotherapy in their advanced stages" provided in the Surgical Oncology section of a latest edition of a review textbook on General Surgery: http://books.google.com/books?id=v0hDy8ALBnkC&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=rhabdomyosarcoma+curable+advanced+stages&source=bl&ots=TuBGkyP583&sig=nAWKOiYMHJOvjPjoURF3J3s-gvo&hl=en&ei=Kvf9ScLUNJPstgPLkuzNAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7 I can provide you with individual review papers on state-of-the-art treatments claiming to cure, based on sound evidence, each of the curable cancers listed by me in my earlier post. > > ICD: Most people die of (their) cancer ... Statistically > Correct for India. Statistically Correct for USA too; > though we are approaching the overall 50% cure rate for all > cancer (lumped together). > The 5 year survival rate for all cancers in the U.S. is 66%. The mortality rates are 235 per 100,000 in males and 161 per 100,000 in females. Please see the following data provided by the American Cancer Society: http://www.cancer.org/downloads/STT/2008CAFFfinalsecured.pdf Regarding India, I will post accurate information when I am able to obtain it. It is best not to trust unverified claims made by people from their own memory or hunches on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Career in Ayurveda!
Career in Ayurveda. BAMS means 'Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine & Surgery' an official course conducted throughout India as prescribed by CCIM ( Central Council of Indian Medicine - a goverment regulating body concerned with Education ,research & practice of Ayurveda , Siddha Medicine in India).Its of 5-1/2 yrs ( 4-1/2 yrs course plus 1 yr internship programme) Well the options for Ayurvedic graduates, i.e., after BAMS .can be as follows- To do Ayurvedic practice/ mix practice ( Ayurved & allopathy ) as a G.P. ( General practitioner To do P.G. ( post graduation) in Ayurveda such as M.D.(Ayurved) or M.S.(Ayurved) To do post graduate Diplomas in ayurved eg.PG DPC ( Dip. in Panchakarma) To do PG certificates in Ayurveda eg. PG Certificate in Ksharsutra karma To do Post graduation in Management like M.M.S. / M.B.A./PGDBM/PGDMM etc To do Post graduation in Pharmaceutical Management like PG DPM To do Post graduation in Hospital/Health Management like M.H.A./ P.G.Dip. in Health/Hospital Administration To do Post graduation in Clinical Research like PG Dip.in Cli.Res./ PG Cert.. in Cli. Res. / M.Sc. ( RACl.Res) To do qualification in Yoga/ Psychotherapy/Hypnotherapy/Reiki etc To do carrier in Insurence sector in the Medical team To be in Academics as a Lecturer in Ayurvedic Medical College To be a consultant in Pharma Industry .& many more ALL THE BEST FOR YOUR FUTURE !! With warm regards, Dr.Aashish Phadke M.D.(Ayu)(Mum.),M.I.I.M.(Gold Medal) M.I.O.A.,D.Opt.,M.S.(Psychotherapy),Adv.Dip. in Yoga,Dip.in Yogic Edu www.ayurvision.com Shrikant Vinayak Barve 9403175973 Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! group at http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] Cancer free for the last 25 years
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 07:26:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence Yet, solitary / anecdotal cases of success OR failure is not science or scientific. Unfortunately, individuals (despite their acclaimed principles) use what ever they can for their own advantage and to make their own point. Is the scientist selling hope with your case report. In medicine we call that a "snake oil salesman" which is euphemism for homeopathy. To me it looks like on Goanet, the scientist is selling hype and the padre is selling salvation.:=)) Mario observes: As the lone voice of reason, truth and peace on Goanet, I am forced once again to point out that Dr. Gilbert is being disingenuous and demagoguing a discussion, even distorting it, for no apparent reason other than some deep seated desire to embarrass himself. While Jane Gillian's report was anecdotal, anyone who read her post with an open mind would have known that it was a direct response and counterpoint to Padre Ivo's bogus contention that cancer is not curable. We now have three personal anecdotes so far, from Jane, Viviana and myself, and additional information from Santosh that many cancers are curable, obviously if caught before they have metastisized. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/177110.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-May/177240.html Thus, it is absurd to suggest that anyone was using this serious discussion for any advantage, and the post I am responding to is pure, unadulterated poppycock, unless Dr. Gilbert can provide evidence that the information Santosh has provided is wrong.
Re: [Goanet] Chicken - soup. Correct / Incorrect / Over-the Top.
--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > SH: The following cancers are completely curable even in > advanced stage ... Incorrect. > Perhaps, Gilbert is not aware of the latest advances in cancer cures in cutting edge research centers such as the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle and M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. That is why he does not know that the cancers I listed are completely curable even in advanced stages. Here is a list of curable cancers provided by Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center: http://www.fhcrc.org/science/education/courses/cancer_course/clinical/treatment/curable.html Please note that despite the confusing assertions that Gilbert has made in his above post this pre-eminent cancer research center clearly uses the term "curable cancers". The words "cure" and "curable" are used by all responsible sources such as the American Cancer Society, National Cancer Institute and the peer-reviewed scientific medical literature. Here is a list (longer than I have provided) of cancers that are "curable with chemotherapy in their advanced stages" provided in the Surgical Oncology section of a latest edition of a review textbook on General Surgery: http://books.google.com/books?id=v0hDy8ALBnkC&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=rhabdomyosarcoma+curable+advanced+stages&source=bl&ots=TuBGkyP583&sig=nAWKOiYMHJOvjPjoURF3J3s-gvo&hl=en&ei=Kvf9ScLUNJPstgPLkuzNAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7 I can provide you with individual review papers on state-of-the-art treatments claiming to cure, based on sound evidence, each of the curable cancers listed by me in my earlier post. > > ICD: Most people die of (their) cancer ... Statistically > Correct for India. Statistically Correct for USA too; > though we are approaching the overall 50% cure rate for all > cancer (lumped together). > The 5 year survival rate for all cancers in the U.S. is 66%. The mortality rates are 235 per 100,000 in males and 161 per 100,000 in females. Please see the following data provided by the American Cancer Society: http://www.cancer.org/downloads/STT/2008CAFFfinalsecured.pdf Regarding India, I will post accurate information when I am able to obtain it. It is best not to trust unverified claims made by people from their own memory or hunches on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] OFFTOPIC: Science education... and useful contacts (Source: Learning Curve, Azim Premji Foundation)
--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न wrote: > > Apologies for the offtopic post, but might be of interest to educators, >and > those interested in science education in > India. FN > Why is this an offtopic post? Science education is not important to Goa and Goans? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] OFFTOPIC: Science education... and useful contacts (Source: Learning Curve, Azim Premji Foundation)
Apologies for the offtopic post, but might be of interest to educators, and those interested in science education in India. FN SOME ORGANISATIONS WORKING IN SCIENCE EDUCATION (INDIA) * Agastya International: Kataria House, 219 Kamaraj Road, Bangalore 560042 Foundation P: 080-25548913-16 W: http://www.agastya.org E: maagas...@vsnl.com * Avehi-Abacus Project: Third floor, K.K. Marg Municipal School, Saat Rasta, Mahalaxmi, Mumbai- 400 011 P:(022)23075231, (022)23052790 W: http://avehiabacus.org E: av...@vsnl.com * Bangalore Association for Science Education: Jawaharlal Nehru Planetarium, Sri. T. Chowdaiah Road, Science Education (BASE) High Grounds, Bangalore-560001 P: 080-22266084, 22203234 W: http://www.taralaya.org E: taral...@vsnl.com * Bharat Gyan Vigyan Samiti: Basement of Y.W.A. Hostel No. II, Avenue - 21, G-Block, Indian Organisation for Saket, New Delhi-110 017. P: 011-2656 9943 Learning and Science W: http://www.bgvs.org E: bgvs_de...@yahoo.co.in, bgvsde...@gmail.com * Center for Environment: Nehru Foundation for Development, Thaltej Tekra, Education Ahmedabad - 380 054, Gujarat Phone : 079-26858002 Website : http://www.ceeindia.org E-Mail : c...@ceeindia.org * Center for Science and Address : 41, Tughlakabad Institutional Area, New Delhi-110062, INDIA Environment P: 011-29955124/25, 29956394, 29956401, 29956399 Website : http://www.cseindia.org E: c...@cseindia.org * C.P.R. Environmental Address : The C. P. Ramaswami Aiyar Foundation No.1, Eldams Road, Education Centre (CPREEC) Alwarpet, Chennai Tamilnadu, India. PIN - 600 018 P: 044-24337023, 24346526, 24349366 Website : www.cpreec.org E: cpr...@vsnl.com, ecoheritage_cpr...@vsnl.net * Eklavya Address : E-10, BDA Colony, Shankar Nagar, Shivaji Nagar, Bhopal - 462 016 Madhya Pradesh, India P: 0755-267 1017,255 1109 Website : http://eklavya.in * Eklavya Institute of Teacher Address : Eklavya Education Foundation, Core House, Off. C.G.Road, Education (EI) Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad-6 P: 079-26461629 W: http://www.eklavya.org E: ekla...@ekalavya.org * Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education: Mr. H C Pradhan, Tata Institute of Fundamental Science Education Research, V.N. Purav Marg, Mankhurd, Mumbai, 400088 P: 022-25554712, 25580036 W: http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in E: postmas...@hbcse.tifr.res.in * Indian Science Congress: 14, Dr. Biresh Guha Street, Kolkata - 17 P: 033-2287 4530 Association Website : http://sciencecongress.nic.in E: isca...@vsnl.net * Kalpavriksh Environment Address : 134, Tower 10, Supreme Enclave, Mayur Vihar, Phase 1, Action Group Delhi 110 09 P: 011-22753714 W: http://www.kalpavriksh.org * Kerala Sastra Address : Parishad Bhavan, Chalappuram PO, Kozhikkode - 673 002, Sahitya Parishad Kerala, India P: 0495-2701919, 9447038195 W: http://www.kssp.org.in E: gsk...@gmail.com * National Council for Address : Department of Science & Technology Technology Bhavan, Science & Technology New Mehrauli Road, New Delhi-11001 P: 011-26567373, 26962819 Communication (NCSTC) W: http://www.dst.gov.in E: dsti...@nic.in * Navanirmiti: Navnirmiti, 301,302,303, 3rd floor, A wing, Priyadarshani Apartment, Padmavati Road, IIT Market Gate, Powai, Mumbai- 400 076. Phone ; 022-25773215, 25786520 W: http://www.navnirmiti.org E: cont...@navnirmiti.org * Nuffield Foundation Address : 28 Bedford Square London WC1B 3JS P: 020 7631 0566, 020 7580 7434 W: http://www.nuffieldfoundation.org E: i...@nuffieldfoundation.org * Rajiv Gandhi Foundation: Jawahar Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra, Prasad Road New Delhi 110 001, INDIA P: 011-23755117, 23312456 W: http://www.rgfindia.org E: i...@rgfindia.org * State Institute of Science: S.I.S.E (Rajya Vigyan Sansthan), P.S.M Campus, Jabalpur, M.P. 482001 P: 0761-2625776 W: http://sisejbp.nic.in * Sutradhar: 59/1, 3rd Cross, 10th A Main, Indiranagar 2 Stage, Bangalore 560038. P: 080-25288545,25215191 W: http://www.sutradhar.com E: su...@vsnl.com * Tamil Nadu Science Forum Address : Balaji Sampath, C2 Ratna Apts. AH 250, Shanti Colony, Annanagar, Chennai-600040, TAMIL NADU P: 044-26213638 E: bsamp...@eng.umd.edu * Tamil Nadu State Council for Address : Directorate of Technical Education Campus, Chennai 25 for Science and Technology, P: 022-22301428 W: http://www.tanscst.org E: enqu...@tnscst.org * Vidya Bhawan Society: Fatehpura, Udaipur, Rajasthan 313001 P: 0294 2450911 W: http://www.vidyabhawan.org E: i...@vidyabhawan.org, vbs...@yahoo.com * Vikram A Sarabhai Community: Opp. Gujarat University, Navrangpura, Ahmedabad - 380 009 Science Center P: 079-26302085,26302914 W: http://www.vascsc.org E: i...@vascsc.org SOURCE: Learning Curve, newsletter of the Azim Premji Foundation. Issue XII, April 2009 learningcu...@azimpremjifoundation.org http://www.azimpremjifoundation.org -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judg
[Goanet] Freida Pinto makes list of Top 10 Most Beautiful people
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,7145,00.html#6_0 A picture is worth a thousand words. Way to go, FREIDA!
[Goanet] An Expatriate Goan's Personal Recollections of the Catholic Church in Colonial Kenya
Religion, it is said, is the process of entering into personal communication with God - a matter of deep faith so to speak; and we, Goans, true to our Patron Saint, St. Francis Xavier, have carried our faith to the far corners of the globe, and so, it was not unusual that Goans should take an active interest and involve themselves in all matters relating to the church. Of us, like the Poles, it could be said, Goans, semper fidelis(always true to the Church). While Goan Catholics are among the best known of Kenya's Asian communities, what is less well known is that their association with Kenya predates the colonial era; and yet, very little has been documented of that early history in Kenya especially during the Portuguese presence. Commercial though the Portuguese exploitation of the Indian ocean and colonisation of Goa was, religious proselytizing served as a moral and convenient justification for imperial expansion, and the serious missionary work which began in Goa - firstly by the Dominicans(followed latterly by the Franciscans, Augustinians, Carmelites and Jesuits), resulted in our conversion to Roman Catholicism. Thus began the inter-twining of two major branches of the Indo-European cultures. Catholic Goans are therefore often referred to as "European Indians", and Goa itself, as "Rome of the East, It is a well known fact that Goans have made a significant contribution towards the establishment of Catholicism in Kenya. They have been amongst the founders, and latterly, pillars of the church - as in the case of the Holy Ghost Cathedral in Mombasa(where, incidentally, my own parents were married in 1926), the Holy Family Basilica, Consolata Church and St. Paul's chapel in Nairobi. Whenever newly-arrived European missionaries set foot on Kenya soil, it was the Goans they turned to for moral and other financial support. Many of the churches in the smaller towns of Kenya also owe their existence to the collective efforts of Goans. In 1933, the Goans built their own church in one of Nairobi's suburbs, Parklands, and named it appropriately after their Patron, St. Francis Xavier. Nor did the Goan contribution end there; they were co-founders of various Church organisations like the St. Vincent de Paul Society, Legion of Mary, Catholic Action groups etc. Because of their ingrained love of music and aptitude for singing, the Goans were quick to start choirs, many of which graced the cathedrals and churches of Kenya. The Goans were equally generous when the question of Catholic education was raised, and donated freely towards the establishment of schools in Nairobi and elsewhere. All this, despite the discrimination practised in Catholic establishments, where many Catholic schools, siding with the Colonial government of the day, did not admit non-European Catholics to their schools. The same was true of mission-run hospitals. Sadly, it must be recorded, that while the missionaries made good use of the Goans - a matter of convenience almost, the treatment that some of these Catholic Goans received at the hands of some priests and nuns was, to say the least, deplorable. Racial discrimination was rife in schools and hospitals(mission hospitals at that!), where White non-Catholics were freely admitted while Goan catholics were left in the lurch. Many Goans who did not speak English, but who were devout and staunch Catholics, were openly discriminated against even in churches, where benches, especially at Christmastime, were reserved for Europeans(in many cases, such Europeans being 'once-a-year-churchgoers'). Mothers were often humiliated by the priest asking them to take their crying infants out of the Church,while no White mother was discriminated in this way. I realize that all this will make sad reading but feel that the story needs to be recorded if only to complete the whole picture of missionary activity in colonial Kenya. I may add that I have many friends among the missionaries in Kenya - both White, Brown and Black - Bishops, priests and ordinary folk. On various occasions I have discussed this issue with them and found that they were in agreement with many of the issues raised in this article. Mervyn Maciel
[Goanet] At the salve... and more
Some video scenes from Saligao: THE LEGENDS... ON STAGE IN SALIGAO Goa is home to a large number of music groups, that play cover versions of Western music. [In popular music, a cover version, or simply cover, is a new rendition (performance or recording) of a previously recorded, commercially released song.] Here, the Saligao-based The Legends (Gaby 9822142788, Lino 9822153732, Noel 9822180338 and Joshua 9850463579) perform at the village salve of Saligao. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGcGGt6t3IU&feature=channel_page ALSO: http://www.youtube.com A PLAY IN THE TEMPLE Ramesh Ghadi of Saligao village directs a play 'Arranged Marriage' aimed at building social awareness on local issues. Scenes from the play at the local temple and an interview with the village popular lad turned bodybuilder turned dramatist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckyQ-m3ZC4&feature=channel_page A MANDO FOR SALIGAO Nicholas Sequeira of Saligao village in Goa, sings a traditional song form (mando) devoted to the village of Saligao. Village loyalities can be very strong in this part of coastal western India. The setting: the local church salve (festivities) on April 29, 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxD1xNzfi2s&feature=channel_page ALSO Maka Naka Go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5fB22w3Z7k&feature=channel_page YOUNGSTERS DANCE The kids at Saligao put up a dance performance at the Salmona and Sequeiravaddo Salve in the village church. April 29, 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8YSLy0Zkc&feature=channel_page KIDS ... ON STAYING HAPPY Kids at Saligao sing a song at the Sonarbhat-Siqueiravaddo Salve at the local church of Mae de Deus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSu7bblmPy8&feature=channel_page -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
Re: [Goanet] Remo, Maria Pitache
The wording is incorrect ... The real words are "Maria bota cher" - old portuguese (as still spoken by Brazilians) - for "Maria puts on perfume". "Botar" means to put or to place, as in "botar alguém em uma situação difícil" (put someone in a difficult situation). Also, a verse to the tune of "A burra de mainat' ": Carinona Cachumbé Carinona Cachumbé Botou rosa, botou rosa, Botou rosa na xendé O zumba Zé O zumba Zé Gabriel. - Original Message From: "Frederick "FN" Noronha" To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Monday, 4 May, 2009 8:13:14 PM Subject: [Goanet] Remo, Maria Pitache Remo sings MARIA PITACHE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPZB1BumQo Thanks for the link to Pradeep Esteves. Video by JoeGoaUK -- The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier.
[Goanet] letter with mog
hi guys Here i am with some things that are going round on the net Hope you have fun with mog to all from jjandson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESGp92THHRg GREG & VAL WEDDING GOA -GOAN ROSS -COCONUT BATH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK_a49H97Sk GREG & VAL WEDDING GOA - 13TH DEC 08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO5TGvxxHu0 GREG & VAL WEDDING GOA 13TH DEC 08 -CABARET/ COCKTAIL BAR-CLIP 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qOVjoZvpuQ GREG & VAL - WEDDING 13TH DEC 08 - GOA - CLIP 1
[Goanet] Goa Nite 2009 (Singapore)
Dear Roland, Allow me to stipulate two points: (a) UK based Eddie Fernandes has been doing a superb job for about a decade at least. (b) There are NO high achieving Goans here (as far as I know) Now: Are you saying that Canadian Goans have decided to rely ONLY on Eddie Fernandes to do the needful (good) for them, while they individually are quite happy to publicly wash dirty linen with (sour) grape juice? Is it not the case that acknowledgment/recognition of the good Goans do, is best done in Canada and in the Canadian media? How many Canadians read the Goan Voice UK (or Goan Voice Canada)? How many (in your estimation) of the Young Goans, have read the Goan Voice's account of the '2008 convention', and how many, read the negative stories that were put out by (what I consider) the disgruntled lot - some of who did not even help the organisers but were there to criticise? Was that good guidance and encouragement for the young Goans of Canada? good wishes jc 2009/5/3 Roland Francis If you cut down on the time spent on Xapotam and use that to read Goan Voice UK, you will find that Eddiebab Fernandes does a great job of profiling and highlighting the achievements of Goans living in Canada and their contributions to the Goan community in particular and to Canadian society in general. Actually he does a great job not only on Canadian Goans but on Goans everywhere. Wonder why you are missing out on that. Has he omitted profiling high achieving Goans in the Bahamas.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Happy Feast of Saliga o ‘Mãe de Deus’
I really, found it very strange, there was no Muzg (may be there was before 11.30), no big Feri or Fair (as can be seen in the pics and video), and not many people. Looks like ‘Soirim-dairim’ are not invited for this feast. To me it was like any other small chapel feast. No wonder, I see no where on the English dailies about the feast and it’s programe today or before. --- Hi Joe Goa, All your Saligao soirim dairim are in Canada and UK, The UK ones are so big headed that they won't talk to you if you are not sagoumcar. Mistri.
[Goanet] songs with mog
hi guys here i am again with some old songs i hope you will like them mog to all from jjandson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0bHGqbZXs Portuguese (Medly) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn8fGiJc0fE Konkani Song (Medly)
[Goanet] Rock - Monday-muse (4 May’09)
MONDAY MUSE (4 May 2009) ROCK For many years, a farmer had ploughed around a large rock in his field. He would curse the rock, every time he damaged his plough on it. Though he tried to be better at avoiding the rock, he managed to break yet another plough, one day. Remembering all the trouble the rock had caused him through the years, he finally decided to do something about it. When he put the crowbar under the rock, he was surprised to discover that it was only about six inches thick and that he could break it up easily with a sledgehammer. As he was carting the pieces away he also carried the smile of realisation how easy it would have been to get rid of that rock sooner… if he had only tried! We know of how the stream defeats the rock with its persistence… how the drop hollows the rock with constant falling... how the stone cutter with determined chiselling gives shape to huge rocks. But, perseverance would never happen if one did not choose to try. And the reality is that most rocks in our route may not be as big or as tough as we imagine them to be. But we would only know when we try! Most of the time, the hurdles in our path seem larger just because we dread the bigger obstacles. But, those who are seized by the passion, to overcome every obstacle, find that not all rocks in their course are overwhelming. Somebody who shirks from preliminary effort would find the simplest of tasks to seem overpowering. It is said well that “never give up until you try”… The rock in our way may not be what it appears Let’s BE BETTER at overcoming failure fears… - Pravin K. Sabnis 4 May 2009, Goa, India. Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Yahoo! Edition http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/firefox/?fr=om_email_firefox
[Goanet] Remo, Maria Pitache
Remo sings MARIA PITACHE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPZB1BumQo Thanks for the link to Pradeep Esteves. Video by JoeGoaUK -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org "If you're already in a hole, it's no use to continue digging." - Roy W. Walters
[Goanet] Death: Sr Cecilia Mary
30 Apr: Nairobi, Kenya. Sr. Cecilia Mary. (born Nergis Commissariat; ex Headmistress of Star of the Sea Primary School, Mombasa). Most of her missionary life was spent in Mombasa. Funeral at St Austin Church, Nairobi, Tues May 5th. Viewing 10:00 Mass 10:30 followed by burial). For an article with substantial reference to her work, check the link below. http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/suttonlink/353wfws.pdf For a photograph go to http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ Eddie Fernandes
[Goanet] The Indian Church, the Censors and the film Angels and Demons
This note below was sent to me by my old friend and colleague from New Delhi, John Dayal. I am sure this will soon be a hot topic of discussion on Goanet, and trust that John's writing will be a strong platform on which to build this. Hartman _ NOTE TO THE FILM CENSOR BOARD Mrs Sharmila Tagore, the Chairperson of the Central Board of Film Certification, called for a review screening of the controversial film Angels and Demons, a sort of a sequel to Da Vinci Code, at the Films Division Auditorium, Mahadev Road, New Delhi. Apart from the review committee of the Board which included two men members – the Congress leader Tom Vaddakkan and the public relations guru Dilip Cherian. Ms Tagore also invited representatives of the Catholic Bishops conference and me. CBCI officials who attended the special screening included the Official Spokesmen, Fr Babu Joseph, svd, the executive secretary of the CBCI media commission Fr George Plathottam, sdb , Delhi Media Commission director Fr John Paul Herman svd, the Principal of St Columba School, New Delhi and two others. The film has the usual Hollywood colour shooting in locales such as Rome and ceremonies of pomp, but its cinematic merits fail it entirely, with the work seldom rising above the level of a mediocre and dreary action thriller riding just on the notoriety of Da Vinci Code. The Vatican has condemned the film for its undercurrent of malignant attitude to the church, but has not called for a ban. The CBCI had earlier apparently called for a ban, but did not insist on it at the screening while condemning the film for showing the Catholic Church, the Vatican and the Papacy, particularly election of a new Pope, in a bad light. The Censor board made it clear they were in no mood to ban the film which will soon have a global premier. It was also hinted that commercial issues are involved if films are banned. It was let known that the film may erase out some offensive words, but the film will be released with a disclaimer at the beginning saying it is a work of fiction with no relatishiop to reality. I gave a written note to the Secretary to the Chairperson in my capacity as a Member of the National Integration Council, a former President of the All India Catholic Union, and the current secretary general of the All India Christian Council. In my note I made the following points: - The Censor Board is a statutory body and should have the courage of its own convictions. It has its guidelines and its duty, and if it thinks a film, any film, disparages a religious community or hurts religious feelings, it should take action under its code - The Censor Board should not pass the buck and the responsibility even in an advisory capacity, to organisations such as the CBCI, to take the infinitive. It puts CBCI and religious organisations in an awkward spot – they are made to appear as moral police and library burners if they call for bans or restrictions, or weaklings if they do not protest. - The Church is not a censor or a moral police, but is indeed a part of the civil society system which makes for a nation’s conscience. The Board must consult it on larger issues of civilisation and moral codes in entertainment, science and depiction of communities as stereotypes, which the Board never does. - When communities are mocked, pilloried or disparaged, it is not merely third reputation that is harmed, but cinematic images carry into real life and communities particularly priest and nuns etc, are made targets of physical violence. Stereotypes also harm the community’s image. - In this film, it is so dreary that it will die a natural death and should be allowed to do so with the rider that it is a work of fiction. Bu in principle I am against all bans on works even of fact or fiction within constitutional limits. Let such films be rejected by the audience and not because the Church says so. - The Censor board must ask itself a question -- How will it react if the focus is not on the Christian Church but on religious heads of other faiths. Will it show the same “gentleness”? This is for your information and use God bless John Dayal Background note: The Central Board of Film Certification (popularly known as Censor Board) is the regulatory body and censorship board of India. It reviews film, television ads, and promotional material. Film censorship becomes necessary because a film motivates thought and action and assures a high degree of attention and retention as compared to the printed word. The combination of act and speech, sight and sound in semi darkness of the theatre with elimination of all distracting ideas will have a strong impact on the minds of the viewers and can affect emotions, courts have held. In 2006, seven states (Nagaland, Punjab, Goa, Tamil Nadu, and Andhra Pradesh) banned the release or exhibi
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Oh Princess! See what you have done
Thanks Joe - So the dead Princess still "graces" the Candolim shores. How may years is it now - 9 ? And no one in Govt has the guts to get it removed! What are so-called the "freedom fighters" doing in this respect? Breaking more "foreign" street name plaques and changing names of towns, when they cannot take care of the mess their own have created? And the name of that shack - "bathe and binge"? Do they want more drownings in their part of town? Yeah, I know I'll get a lot of flak and be called certain names for what I have said. But I have said what I have said because I have, for long, been disgusted with this "freedom without responsiibility". Gabriel. --- On Mon, 4/5/09, JoeGoaUk wrote: From: JoeGoaUk Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Oh Princess! See what you have done To: goa...@goanet.org Received: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 8:06 AM Talking Photos: Oh Princess! See what you have done.. All pics taken on today 3/5/09 around 1pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3497888389/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3497886901/sizes/l/ Check these shocking pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3498690564/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3497876679/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3498697502/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3498701104/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3497879895/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk18/3498699234/sizes/l/ Except these 2 The Princess (Since June 2000) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2618662829/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2619486170/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Yahoo!7 recommends that you update your browser to the new Internet Explorer 8.Get it now.
[Goanet] News to be read in Electronic Media
Dear Sir / Madam, Would be most obliged, if the appended article (highlighted in blue) is read out in your daily news section of your esteemed channel. The programme is placed as an attachment. Letter of invitation to the Editor (to attend and also cover the event) has already been destatched earlier by courier. Warm regards, John -- John S. Fernandes Executive Officer - Goa State Office Confederation of Indian Industry 502, Unitech City Center, M. G. Road, Panaji, Goa 403 001 Tel: 0832 - 2422790 / 2422796 / 9822982979 e-mail: ciig...@dataone.on / cii...@bsnl.in / cii...@satyam.net.in -- Before printing, think about ENVIRONMENTAL responsibility. The Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) in Goa is conducting a programme on 'Homeland Security' on 8 May 2009 (Friday) at Hotel Mandovi with an aim to establish readiness metrics of the State governments and other stakeholders and assess the State's overall preparedness capability to respond to any events, especially those involving terrorist attacks and unscrupulous elements from disrupting peace and harmony in the State and to bring together under one roof and have fruitful dialogues between all stakeholders. Industry representatives, Home Department, Home Guards and Heads of Civil Defense, the Police, Heads of various departments of the Govt of Goa, and other relevant authorities would speak at the event. Those interested could attend the programme by prior registration. Contact address is as follows: 502 Unitech City Center, M G Road, Panaji Goa. Tel; 9822982979 or 9822982505 or 9822123077.
[Goanet] My Husband Threw Us Out: The Story of Pooja and Neera Chopra
>From the Times of India potpourri, a gut-wrenching story of Miss India and her family, with a Goa connection. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4451333.cms?frm=mailtofriend Read also: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/lifestylespecial/4464517.cms -- Roland Francis http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com +1 (416) 453.3371
