[Goanet] Will Mahanand cross quarter century?

2009-05-30 Thread Samir Kelekar

I think Mahanand will surely cross a quarter century.
I have a feeling he has committed at least 3 murders a year, if not more.
for 15 years, the total would be at least 45.

Anyone willing to wager whether he has crossed a quarter century ?

samir



  


Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-30 Thread Mervyn Lobo

Santosh Helekar wrote:
The physician who prescribes a placebo to his patient is engaging in 
deception. 
He is intentionally lying to the latter that he is administering a real 
treatment with 
a predictable effect, when he clearly knows that he is not. The ethics of such 
deception are questionable outside the confines of a scientific clinical trial. 
The 
latter circumstance is exceptional because a legally and ethically valid 
informed 
consent is obtained from all participants of a study.
- 


Ok, folks.
This exact same debate is going on, on Tanzanet at the moment. One writer
makes the same point as Santosh, but in a way that the non-scientific mind would
find easier to understand. 

What the writer says, essentially, is that whether it is Western medicine or 
traditional, 
the medicine-man has to collect information. What may work for one patient, may 
not 
work for another. The bottom line being that the giant western multi-nationals 
have paid 
people to be guinea-pigs while researching the drug and its effects. 

When the traditional drug from the traditional healer does not work on you, 
guess what? 
You are the guinea-pig. 

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[Goanet] Documentary on Abbe Faria

2009-05-30 Thread Luis Vas
Since the birth anniversary of Abbe Faria, the Goan father of scientific
hypnotism falls on May 31, Goanetters may be interested in RTP's recently
telecast  episode of Contacto Goa. You may watch the video by clicking on
the link below:


http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/index.php?tvprog=20155idpod=24742formato=wmvpag=recentesescolha
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[Goanet] Goanet] Serial Killer: 12+2 is the latest tally!

2009-05-30 Thread Isabella Rebello-Hamm

Hi all,
somebody on Goanet wrote the 'Police are not even fit to be cooks.' 
Being cooks is a profession, and a decent one. A police office has his 
duty towards his country and his nation? Are they doing their jobs? If a 
police officer is currupt, he should not be given the job in the police 
department.He is not fit for such a title. Same with the politicians, 
they have a responsibility towards their country and themselves to do it 
properly, and not be lazy and careless. How can one's country prosper 
with false thinking?

Good wishes,
Isabella.


Re: [Goanet] Frederick Norohna: Cyber activism is here

2009-05-30 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
2009/5/29 Eddie Fernandes ed...@fernandes.u-net.com:
 EXCERPTS:
 Currently Frederick  runs a couple of mailing lists, including Goanet, which
 has about 13,000 readers everyday.

Thanks Eddie!

This should read: Currently, Frederick runs a few mailing lists, and
has been a long-time volunteer on Goanet, which has about 13,000
readers everyday. --FN

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Re: [Goanet] Only in Bharat

2009-05-30 Thread Eugene Correia

Roland's comparison of Busybee (Behram Contractor) to Jerry Seinfield is not 
apt. Busybee was a reporter/columinist and later editor of Mid-Day and then of 
his own Afternoon Courier and Dispatch. While Jerry was or perhaps still is a 
stand-up comic and a TV star.
Some of Busybee's close friends and admirers have compared the late columnist 
to Art Buchwald, the great American humourist whose column was syndicated in 
many American and worldwide newspapers. I miss both Art and Busybee's columns.
Some journalists in Mumbai even said that if Busybee was in America he would 
have given Art a run for his money. I not hundred per cent sure, but I have a 
feeling that Busybee has said somewhere he was inspired by Art Buchwald.
The column, Only in Bharat, was compiled from funny news items from across 
India. To the best of my knowledge it was not written by a columnist. I think 
Reuters still run a item with funny stories from across the world.

Eugene





  


[Goanet] Daily Grook #421

2009-05-30 Thread Francis Rodrigues


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[Goanet] YWCA seminar invitation

2009-05-30 Thread jane gillian rodrigues
Dear Goankars,

Please forward. Please attend in large numbers in order to make the programme a 
success.

The knowledge you gain from this seminar will help to avert/minimize future 
tragedies.

Tea/coffee and snacks will be served to all.

Kindly e-mail/phone Mini Lobo, if you wish to attend the programme.


Regards and best wishes.


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[Goanet] Theatre artiste M Boyer passes away

2009-05-30 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Source: UNI at http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-47264.html

Full text:
Panaji, May 30: Padma Shri awardee and noted Konkani dramatist M Boyer died
at his South Goa residence here today following prolonged illness. He was
78.

Boyer, who was bedridden for last three years, is survived by his wife and
five sons.

The veteran theatre artist also composed Konkani songs and wrote dramas.

He was felicitated by Sangeet Natak Academy, New Delhi for his contribution
to Konkani threatre form ''Tiatre''.

Condoling his death, Goa Konkani Academy president N Shivdas said Boyer had
played a significant role in the growth of Tiatre in the last four decades.

Academy secretary Dr P R Phaldesai said Boyer was a master of theatre stage
and will be always remembered by the Goan society for upliftment of Konkani
dramas.

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Re: [Goanet] GOAN WELFARE SOCIETY - NAIROBI - KENYA - Newsletter May . 2009

2009-05-30 Thread renebarreto



Goans and Friends of Goa , 


WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS :
GOAN WELFARE SOCIETY - NAIROBI - KENYA Newletter May . 2009
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The GWS newsletter. Your Comments will be valued.
Enjoy! 
For and on behalf of the GWS - 
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The Voice of the Goan Diaspora - Goan Welfare Society -Nairobi,
Kenya News Letter for MAY 2009 can be viewed at : 
http://globalgoanassociations.blogspot.com/2009/05/goan-welfare-society-nairobi-kenya_3709.html

Children Walking Tall - News letter : March/April 2009
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Don't just say it - let s JUST DO IT ?

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do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. - 
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[Goanet] Padmashree M Boyer died today

2009-05-30 Thread JoeGoaUk

Padmashree M Boyer died today

a pic
http://www.goaaparantabook.com/images/tiatr3.jpg


While we were the function 'Yuva Srujan Puraskar 2009' it was announced there 
the sad news of Tiatrist Ppadmashree  M Boyer.

 

M Boyer, many will remember him singing on Akasvani Ponje (AIR) or All India 
Radio, Panjim.

 

Some of his popular songs played on Radio were 

Ixttagot

Goemche Convent

Mazor Kombi Bhoklli

Lila o Dila  etc etc


My Boyer was sick  for last 3 years or so (bedridden) 

 M Boyer song is heard in this Clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvrEQ6sh7Zo

 

Adieus M Boyer.







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Re: [Goanet] Our facile Goan Catholic Society .. It has not changed !!!

2009-05-30 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

Symbiosis might have been there in the past. But you tell me, in what way did 
the bhatkar benefit from the Tenancy Act? Especially in today's world?

- Original Message 
From: Blasio Fernandes blasio.fernan...@emirates.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Friday, 29 May, 2009 7:38:13 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Our facile Goan Catholic Society .. It has not changed !!!

Thanks.

But do you think that only the mundkars benefited from all this and not
the bhatkar in any way ? 
Don't you think this bhatkar / mundkar relationship is like a process
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[Goanet] Why english media silent on this Mass convertion movement

2009-05-30 Thread shri8131

Beleivers are active in many parts of Goa. 

People demand Anti-conversion bill in Goa in a meeting. 

Many Hindu families from various villages in Sangem Taluka reported converted 
to Cristianity. In anything similar to Orrisa happen in Goa, Govt. should be 
held responsible. 
Gomantak May 29 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14948...@n02/3576845901/sizes/l/


Usually I  dont interfere in such religious matters. But as I noticed this that 
this news are not reported at all in english news papers. 

This has happened also in past. 

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[Goanet] How is that indian origin kids perform exceptionally at US National Spelling Bee. Good luck

2009-05-30 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Kansas gal Kavya Shivshankar bee-comes spelling princess

WASHINGTON: There was an air of inevitability as yet another precocious 
middle-Indian-American Kavya Shivashankar lifts the trophy after winning the 
2009 National Spelling Bee, in Washington. (Reuters Photo)
More Pictures

schooler of Indian origin won the US National Spelling Bee Indian-American 
Kavya Shivashankar lifts the trophy after winning the 2009 National Spelling 
Bee, in Washington. (Reuters Photo)
More Pictures
championship for 2009 on 
Thursday night, extending a decade long run in which Indian-Americans kids have 
won the title seven times out of ten. 

Kavya Shivshankar of Olethe, Kansas, effortlessly spelt the word Laodicean -- 
which means indifferent or lukewarm especially in matters of religion -- to 
claim the title after her only remaining American opponent Tim Ruiter flubbed 
Maecenas, which means a generous benefactor. 

Indians aren’t Laodicean in the usual sense. In fact, when it comes to spelling 
bee championship especially, they have made it a rite -- or write -- of 
passage. To the point of being devout.
for more read 

http://tinyurl.com/nsblp8

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indian-origin-girl-wins-US-Spelling-Bee-contest/articleshow/4591730.cms

This was LAST YEAR
8-yr-old Indian-American spells history
30 May 2008, 0859 hrs IST, IANS
WASHINGTON: Sriram Hathwar, an 8-year-old Indian American boy, has become the 

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youngest speller in the history of the Scripps National 
Spelling Bee even as he could 
not go too far in the popular contest. 

But nine other of the 30 Indian-American participants made it to the semi 
finals of the 83-year-old competition Thursday by spelling words like 
leptocercal, bizarrerie and trochophore 

Indian kids have dominated the event in recent years, winning the championship 
five times in the last nine years. The last Indian winner was Anurag Kashyap in 
2005 correctly spelling appoggiatura. 



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[Goanet] M. BOYER DEAD

2009-05-30 Thread godfrey gonsalves

Noted Konkani playwright Mr. Manuel Santan Aguiar popularly known as M Boyer 
expired today morning at 10 a.m at his residence in Santemol after a prolonged 
physical disability.  He was 78 years (born on 11/10/1930) 

He ruled the Konkani stage for well over half a century and the first to earn a 
Padma Shree, (amongst the Konkani playwrights ) besides several state awards 
and other awards. He rose from humble beginning but his inimitable style 
endeared him to audiences wherever he performed.

Acting was inborn and despite being reprimanded while at school Catholic 
Education Institute in Margao he continued to pursue his acting mission under 
the pseudonym M Taylor and later M Boyer.

His first play was Rinkariand he excelled in direction script writing singing 
acting etc He leaves behind his wife and five sons. The funeral date and time 
is yet to be announced 

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Re: [Goanet] Time to put sense into Goan women

2009-05-30 Thread Roland Francis
Samir,

While it lasts, considering divorce anathema is not such a bad thing.

Look at the example of western countries where the divorce rate is
very high. Children from the marriage pay a very high price for a
broken home. Of course the general wisdom is that children are much
more understanding than they are given credit for - meaning that they
would rather their parents separate than have constant unpleasantness
in the home. But this argument I think is a defence used by the
proponents of divorce. Whether you like it or not, on balance,
children are more adversely affected by the separation of their
parents than not.

What is the price they pay?

Emotional instability
Susceptibility to mental dysfunctions
More likelihood of drug addictions
Higher chances of divorce in their own adult lives
Little regard for relatives or family.

In addition to this, as divorce becomes more acceptable, the reasons
for this extreme step become flimsier. A little marital argument
becomes grounds for throwing the towel in.

I am not a fan of remaining in the marriage at any cost. There are
some good reasons for divorce. Violence, exploitation,
incompatibility, constant disrespect, are some of these. All I am
saying is that unfettering traditional ties that still have relevance
in today's world, should be considered after thinking not once ot
twice but ten, twenty or a hundred times. And that too only after
counselling and professional advice.

My opinions are merely from observing a lifetime of situations and a
little reading. Perhaps sociologists on Goanet will have something
more formal to say.

Roland.
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote:
 One of my mentors called marriage as an institution for copulation. Though
 I may not agree with him fully, it is important to bust the myth about
 the institution of marriage especially in places like Goa where divorce
 is considered anathema.


Re: [Goanet] Invitation - We Love Ayurveda

2009-05-30 Thread Mario Goveia

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 If scientific (expensive) medicines can use the placebo effect
 as the studies show, why would not the same pathways apply
 to / be used by Ayurveda, homeopathy, alternative
 medicines, nutraceuticals, etc.?
 
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:13:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com

I have no idea what the first part of the above question means. Any properly 
scientifically tested and validated medicine approved for ethical use, by 
definition, has to be more effective than a placebo, irrespective whether it is 
expensive or inexpensive. Alternative rituals that have not been tested for 
safety and efficacy in randomized placebo-controlled trials are by the same 
token of questionable utility.

Mario adds:

I continue to be amazed by the misconceptions being persistently proposed by 
some registered medical practitioners, who should know better.

Even I know that placebos, by definition, have no pathways that any 
knowledgeable medical practitioner can use or know what to do with in 
treating a patient.  This would be like giving them a bottle of colored water 
and asking them to take one tablespoon three times a day - the color only meant 
to make the beverage seem like a medicine.

Now, if the beverage were feni, then we may have something useful:-))

The real question is why ...Ayurveda, homeopathy, alternative medicines, 
nutraceuticals etc. cannot be tested in head-to-head blind studies against 
placebos just like every allopathic medication has to go through before being 
approved for widespread use by the competent authorities. After all, most of 
these have been around long enough.

The prescribing physician knows within a narrow range the probability of 
effectiveness of an allopathic medication and this information comes from the 
studies.  They also know the possible side effects and how the medication may 
conflict with or be enhanced by other medications the patient may be taking.

I suspect the reason is that the sellers and manufacturers and proponents of 
alternative treatments cannot afford to put these to objective testing because 
we may find out that they are useless, which would put millions of snake oil 
salesmen and women out of business.

Many allopathic medications, too, fail such tests and no one will ever hear of 
those in the marketplace.  On the other hand, the occasional alternative 
treatment does pass muster when tested.  I know Santosh will correct me if I'm 
wrong but I once heard of an extensive study in Britain which found that 
chiropractic performed better than orthopedics in treating back pain due to 
spinal problems.

In the meantime the gullible who are fooled into believing that these 
alternative concoctions or procedures work pay the price and take their 
chances with what is essentially gambling with their health.







[Goanet] Only in Canada!

2009-05-30 Thread Mervyn Lobo

Folks,
Most of you are aware that the master debater of the Republican party, that 
intellectual, 
George W. Bush, is here in Toronto to debate Billy Bop Clinton tonight. The 
born again 
Christian is likely to shed light on how he tried to convince French President 
J. Chirac to 
join the war coalition insisting that, This confrontation is willed by God, 
who wants to use 
this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins.

Billy Bop Clinton is probably here to collect speakers fees which would easily 
top 
$200,000.00. Not bad for one nights work.

What neither President is going to address is the old US saying of, What's 
good 
for GM is good for the country. General Motors, once the worlds largest car 
manufacturer, goes bankrupt on Monday. It will then be owned by the Govt of the 
US, 
the Govt of Canada and the Union that controls the workers at GM's 
plants. A delicious 
irony considering that the biggest car manufacturer's in communist China are 
owned 
by capitalist corporations. The question I have is, exactly who would want to 
buy a 
car manufactured by the Govt of Canada and the Govt of the USA?

Goans are going to be well represented at tonight's debate. You may even get to 
read 
about them tomorrow. What really caught my attention is this letter to the 
Editor in 
today's, The Toronto Star.
---
No business like shoe business 
May 29, 2009 
With George W. Bush speaking to the city's well-heeled tonight, I hope 
corporate sponsors 
will take advantage of this event to boost our culture, economy and national 
pride. For example, 
Bata Shoes could get their new lineup some air time. The Bata Shoe Museum could 
mount an 
exhibition called Political Self-Expression with Footwear, and Payless Shoe 
Source could 
offer a 1 for the price of 2 special, for people who only want to cast a 
single vote. 
--

 
For the non-George Bush fans here, check out this video of Toronto today.
http://www.thestar.com/videozone/642845
 
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[Goanet] Yuva Srujan Puraskar to Com. John D’ Silva, Elvis Goes, Vishnu Surya Wagh, Prachala Amonkar etc

2009-05-30 Thread JoeGoaUk

Yuva Srujan Puraskar to Com. John D’ Silva, Elvis Goes, Vishnu Surya Wagh,  
Prachala Amonkar etc

 Directorate of Arts and Culture, Goa Govt instituted it’s first ever ‘Yuva 
Srujan Puraskar’ awards for the Goan youth from the current years 2009. 

There is another award on similar lines but that is for the seniors say 55 
years and above

 

Comedian John D’ Silva awarded for his  Tiatr work

Elvis Goes for his Mando/dances etc (Folk Art)


Besides other things, each awardees given Rs.10,000 

 
See group photos for other names etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578677208/sizes/l/

 John D' Silva (Tiatr), Prachala S. Amonkar (Music), Vijaykumar Vishwanath Naik 
(Drama), Vishnu Surya Wagh (Literature), Elvis Goes (Fork Art), Viraj Naik 
(Fine Art), Suhas Laxman Vaze (Kirtan) andSony Keshav Shetgaokar (Handicraft)

Seating: Prasad Lolienkar, CM Digambar Kamat and Mr. Bambolkar

another
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578676460/sizes/l/


Vishnu Surya Wagh
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578677828/

John D’ Silva
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578675836/

Elvis Goes received his award
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578674498/

John receiving his
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3577869963/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578678718/


Local traditional Musicians
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3578674980/

 
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[Goanet] Will Mahanand cross quarter century?

2009-05-30 Thread Venantius Pinto
 Hi Samir,
This is an wrenching wager considering the context, and has a sporty feel to
it, like betting on number of runs in cricket, more so when the numerical
counter used is the (quarter) century: X scored a half century over YY
overs. Besides, to have arrived at the number of 3 murders (essentially
snuffings--there is a component rooted in sexuality here) one probably took
into account cost of living etc.

But why do we think even about overall possible numbers, or is it that these
thoughts just happen to flow in what for many has come to mean merely
existing in the existential. Is not existence ghoulish enough already? Give
this a thought. You could be right, but still (tari pan.d).

venantius j pinto


 From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Goanet] Will Mahanand cross quarter century?

 I think Mahanand will surely cross a quarter century.
 I have a feeling he has committed at least 3 murders a year, if not more.
 for 15 years, the total would be at least 45.

 Anyone willing to wager whether he has crossed a quarter century ?

 samir




Re: [Goanet] Why english media silent on this Mass convertion movement

2009-05-30 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, shri8...@yahoo.com shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 People demand Anti-conversion bill in Goa in a meeting. 
 

A law against conversion would be unconstitutional in India. Conversions cannot 
and should not be banned. In a secular democracy people have a right to change 
their religion, give it up entirely or persuade others to do so. Nobody can 
take away that right. What needs to be prevented is coercion and violence. The 
Government is responsible only for enforcing the existing laws against the 
latter activities.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, shri8...@yahoo.com shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Many Hindu families from various villages in Sangem Taluka
 reported converted to Cristianity. In anything similar to
 Orrisa happen in Goa, Govt. should be held responsible. 
 Gomantak May 29 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/14948...@n02/3576845901/sizes/l/
 
 
 Usually I  dont interfere in such religious matters. But
 as I noticed this that this news are not reported at all in
 english news papers. 
 
 This has happened also in past. 
 
 Shrikant Vinayak Barve
 
 





Re: [Goanet] Vale Peter Nolasco Da Gama

2009-05-30 Thread jane gillian rodrigues
Pls forward.

Pls pray


It is with great sadness and regret that we have to announce the passing away 
of Nolasco Da Gama, ex-Congress-I Corporator, Marine Lines, Mumbai, of Tivim 
village, Goa, in the  afternoon at 1.15 pm peacefully in his sleep on 27 May 
09, in Australia. 
May his soul Rest in Peace. 

For condolences contact -

Christopher Rodrigues
Mob: 0405427743
carodrig...@optusnet.com.au




Re: [Goanet] Strong Competent Governance Needed - NT 30 May 2009 -

2009-05-30 Thread floriano

Strong Competent Governance Needed
Agnelo Fernandes, Vasco
NT-Reader's View 30 May, 2009

We the citizens of Goa have often seen that the government makes a decision
first and then thinks of the consequences. This is creating a problem and
nuisances for investors, employees, youth and the law-abiding citizen. This
is exactly what has happened in the case of SEZs, other developmental
projects and now casinos. The offshore casino operators were given licences
to  operate and now that there is a little public opposition to the casinos,
the government is likely to wash its hands off the whole matter. This
approach is lacking in intelligence and basic regards for public interest.
The government cannot take this sort of stand, where they give a go-ahead to
a project and then backout due to public pressure. If the dicision is in
public interest and is good for the economic activity of the state, then the
government needs to clarify it, justify the decision and go ahead. The
people of Goa don't want a government that reacts only when there is a
degree of opposition. We need a government that can take an informed
dicision and also justity it when the need arises.

Comments:
It is a well known fact that the cobling of the governments in Goa since its
so called liberation in 1961 has been on the basis of self-interest of the
elected persons. A minister handling a particular portfolio is the whole and
sole who decides what to do and what not to do. Take the example of our
present Health Minister. If he should decide that a hospital be built in the
sky, it will be built. Policies are decided by individual Ministers and
cabinet clearances are a sham i.e 'you scratch my back and I will scratch
yours ... Or else SHUT UP.'

We commend Agnelo Fernandes for his inputs and would suggest to him that he
goes through the Su-Raj's ROADMAP FOR GOA which doubles up as the party's
permanent manifesto, its hand-book on governance and which is available to
download on www.goasu-raj.org home page. With Su-Raj, the policies and the
type of governance to be followed is decided by the party well in advance
and not by elected individuals as a stop-gap arrangement. The party
considers its elected representatives as mere drivers  of the vehicle on a
given route or course with destination schedules to stick to and nothing
else.

BTW this party appreciates the warning issued by the Congress President Ms.
Sonia Gandhi to the newly inducted ministers recently to 'deliver' or
'perish'. We  hope that this does not stay a mere warning only but hard
kicking of some behinds will take place sooner than later to send a clear
signal.

floriano lobo
general secretary/spokesperson
goasuraj
9890470896











[Goanet] Ayurvedic Medicines Heavy metal issue

2009-05-30 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Ayurvedic Medicines  Heavy metal issue

Prof.K.R.Kohli M.D(Ay), Ph.D

Director-Ayurveda Research

Dabur Research Foundation

The developments related to the spread of Indian systems of medicine happening 
at the global level are no doubt encouraging for Ayurveda. Ayurveda is making 
its presence felt in the West. It is natural that with there would be a few who 
would doubt the safety of Ayurvedic medicines. We have inherited Ayurveda from 
the ancient Ayurveda scholars. Ayurveda is imbibed in our culture but the same 
is not true for Western culture. Hence a few rumblings, few negative statements 
and a few studies to resist or restrict the fast expanding base of Ayurveda 
will be quite natural.  All nations have got the right to ensure the safety of 
their populations. Even the scientists and doctors of western medicine in these 
countries would not take every thing related to safety for granted as we do in 
case of Ayurveda in our country. We have a history of uninterrupted practice of 
these systems of medicine for last several thousands of years and confirming 
the safety of our
 traditionally being used products hence is not mandatory. The western medical 
science on the contrary adopts the procedure of toxicological studies and 
testing of every consumable material for Heavy Metals, Aflotoxins and the 
Pesticide content in products to ensure the safety of the products. We know 
Ayurveda is safe, but they must test it before using it on their populations. 
The negative publicity came as a result of just one study which does not appear 
to be very well planned. Herbal and Herbometaliic preparations are all taken 
for comparison and for devising the statistics. But that should not deter us 
from our plans to globalsie Ayurveda and other Indian systems of medicine. Our 
traditional medicines and their practice will have to enter into these newer 
markets only after a tough scrutiny so that people of the nations can consume 
them with out any doubts about safety of these products in mind. Hence we take 
these developments in US, Canada and UK
 as the acid test for Ayurveda. Ayurveda has survived for more than 5000 years 
and will continue to do so more effectively with newer challenges coming in its 
effort to globalize. 

The chronology of the events is that in December 2004, a group of doctors from 
Harvard Medical School under the leadership of Dr. Saper picked up a few 
samples of Herbal Medicinal Products(HMP) from different stores and tested them 
for the presence of Heavy metals like Hg, Pb, As and Cd. Out of the 70 products 
of 27 Ayurvedic  Unani Companies(26 Indian and One from Pakistan) tested they 
came across 14 which had high heavy metal content. Out of these 14, four were 
known to be made from Mercury and other metals(like Mahalaxmi vilas rasa) and 
it was just 8 out of these 70 which were found to be containing higher than 
prescribed levels of heavy metals in them. The problem with this study was that 
metal containing compounds(Rasoushadhis) were included to derive the median and 
the averages which appear to be scary. The authors appear to have been ignorant 
about the use of metallic preparations in Ayurveda. Further, a few of the 
products, which were said to be
 free from heavy metals in one study in US, were said to be culprits in the 
other similar study in Canada. This highlights one point that there is an 
ambiguity in the testing methods.

These recent rumblings on the Herbal medicinal products have necessitated for 
us to educate to the west the principles and methods of making Ayurvedic and 
Unani preparations. This need was never felt so strong earlier.

The raw material for Ayurvedic medicines comprises of either of the following: -

1.Plants

2.Minerals

3.Combination of both i.e.Herbomineral/Herbo-metallic

The issue of heavy metals in HMP’s can be classified in two broader categories 
viz.

1. Heavy Metals in pure Herbal preparations

2. Heavy Metals in Herbomineral preparations

 

1. Heavy Metals in pure Herbal preparations

In Ayurvedic classics there are clear guidelines has been given for collection 
of the Raw materials in certain time, season and about the maturity of the 
plant. In principle the pure herbal preparations should be free from all 
contaminants of whatsoever nature. But era of industrialization has seen growth 
of industries that lead to increased levels of the pollutants in the 
environment, which has affected soil and water conditions. This air and ground 
water pollution has lead to contamination of vegetables and grains and other 
edible material too. The wildly growing herbs are still spared from this 
phenomenon to some extent but they too are now getting affected. 

There are certain plant species, which are having affinity to absorb certain 
traces of metals from the soil. It has been seen that around more than 60 plant 
species have a natural tendency to absorb metals from the soil which could be 
taken as a natural ingredient; may be 

Re: [Goanet] How is that indian origin kids perform exceptionally at US National Spelling Bee. Good luck

2009-05-30 Thread Naguesh Bhatcar

It is not by chance that kids of Indians, do well at these US Spelling Bee or 
Geographic Bee.
They take great pains to push their kids to do it.
Parents of Indian kids are known to put a lot of pressure on their kids to 
stand out.
It is even said that they live their lives through the achievements of their 
kids!!

Chinese parents are known to be even stricter, pushing their kids to not only 
excel at education but to also
learn the Chinese language as well as classical instruments like Violin and 
Piano.

Naguesh

Naguesh Bhatcar
sgbhat...@hotmail.com


 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 04:11:55 -0700
 From: shri8...@yahoo.com
 To: goa...@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] How is that indian origin kids perform exceptionally at US  
 National Spelling Bee. Good luck
 
 
 Kansas gal Kavya Shivshankar bee-comes spelling princess
 
 WASHINGTON: There was an air of inevitability as yet another precocious 
 middle-Indian-American Kavya Shivashankar 
lifts the trophy after winning the 2009 National Spelling Bee, in Washington. 
(Reuters Photo)
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 schooler of Indian origin won the US National Spelling Bee Indian-American 
 Kavya Shivashankar lifts the trophy after 
winning the 2009 National Spelling Bee, in Washington. (Reuters Photo)
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 championship for 2009 on 
 Thursday night, extending a decade long run in which Indian-Americans kids 
 have won the title seven times out of ten. 
 



[Goanet] 100 years celebration of tivimnenses village union

2009-05-30 Thread jane gillian rodrigues
GOANKARS,

Please forward. Please attend in large numbers in order to make the programme a 
huge success.

ALL ARE WELCOME - COME ONE COME ALL
( INCLUDING ALL GOANS AND NON-GOANS OF ALL COMMUNITIES)

COME, ENJOY AND SAVOUR THE TASTE OF AUTHENTIC GOAN CUISINE
AND WONDERFUL LILTING GOAN MUSIC AND THE HOSPITALITY OF GOA.

WITH   MANAGING COMMITTEE OF TIVIMNENSES VILLAGE UNION IN CELEBRATING 

100th TIVIM VILLAGE FEAST

DATE : SUNDAY, 19th JULY, 2009

VENUE : VICTORIA CHURCH, MAHIM, MUMBAI

TIME : 9.30AM MASS 
10.30AM BREAKFAST
11.00AM * DANCING (GOAN/WESTERN), *SINGING -- 
(GOAN/PORTUGESE/ENGLISH/HINDI/MARATHI), 
*GAMES FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN, *GIFTS FOR 
CHILDREN, *LUCKY DIP - FOR HAMPER WORTH RS. 
500/-, * GIFTS FOR LUCKY NUMBER ON ENTRY CARD 
AND NOVELTY DANCE, *HOUSIE, *GET-TO-GETHER, 
*INTRODUCTION OF SPINSTERS AND BACHELORS, 
*AWARDS FOR EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION  SPORTS
2.00PM LUNCH  DESSERT (BEST GOAN CATERERS)
4.30PM - TEA AND SNACKS – 

COMPERE – MR. XAVIER LOBO (VP – TIVIMNENSES VILLAGE UNION)

MUSIC : (1) INTERNATIONALLY WELL-KNOWN (1) D.J. EDWARD (NAIKA VADDO, CALANGUTE, 
GOA) , (2) DR. J. PETER RODRIGUES - VOCALS  GUITAR AND (3) DR. VICTOR 
RODRIGUES  THE BEATLES AND (4) FELIX FLOR AND THE BAND (5) DANCE GROUP DOLLY 
AND THE TIVIM BELLES 

TICKETS : Rs. 40/- ( CHILDREN OF TIVIM VILLAGE)
Rs. 80/- ( MEMBERS OF TIVIM VILLAGE)
Rs. 175/- ( GUESTS GOANS AND NON-GOANS) 

BOOK YOUR TICKETS IN ADVANCE TO AVOID DISAPPOINTMENT.

FOR MORE INFORMATION AND QUERIES, CONTACT :-

(1) PRESIDENT - DR. J. PETER RODRIGUES,(s/o Dr. Frank X. Rodrigues and Madam 
Maria Rodrigues, Querem Vaddo, Tivim, Goa), ENT, HEAD, NECK CANCER SURGEON, 
HON. HEAD OF ENT DPTMT, ST. GEORGE GOVMT HOSPITAL, VT, MUMBAI 
Mo. no:- +919930011007/+919820061317 / e-mail id - 
tivim_...@rediffmail.com/dr_peter_rodrig...@rediffmail.com
(2) VICE PRESIDENT – MR. XAVIER LOBO - +919322251753/022-28386944

(3) DR. VICTOR RODRIGUES – DENTAL SURGEON – 022-22027456 (11AM – 1PM – MON TO 
FRIDAY)





[Goanet] M Boyer

2009-05-30 Thread Albert Desouza

Albert writes

It is indeed sad to hear about the death of MBoyer. He was a great composer and 
his play always had social themes. Ekuch rosto brought unity between religions, 
sounsar sudorlo, Bhurgim bangar are some of the plays I can remember of his. He 
could compose songs at any moment of time even when he would be on the stage. 
He was a very simple man and never showed pride while moving with junior 
artist. He would respect other people . I was lucky to have acted with him in 
some of the tiatros of Fr.Freddy da Costa, Mike Mehta and he even acted in my 
own play Nirmon  when I had stagged in the school where I was teaching. In 
his death the state has lost one of the great artist .Our sincere sympathies 
with the family who always were with him when ever he staged his own plays. May 
his soul rest in peace

 

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[Goanet] Shrikant Barve: I am worried about 'trouble due to conversion' and not of conversion.

2009-05-30 Thread augusto pinto
On various e-mailing lists Shrikant Barve has been making public,
comments that the Marathi Press have been making which have not been
picked up by the English and Konkani media.

These relate to conversions of people by a Christian sect called the
Believers of Goan people, mainly belonging to other Christian sects
like Roman Catholics, but also some backward class Hindus.

In my opinion, Gomantak and Tarun Bharat have been trying to create an
alarmist situation with regard to this issue. But this is my opinion.

I think however it is time that more journalists pay attention to this
issue for as Barve says, the trouble that may arise over this
conversion issue may snowball into an ugly crisis which we can do
without.

Augusto

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Moira, Bardez,
Goa, India
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M 9881126350


Re: [Goanet] Preparing for the Monsoons - By Clinton Vaz

2009-05-30 Thread Roland Francis
What a change from 60 years ago !

Here is Clinton Vaz my friend (I am a fan of his causes, though I have
never met him and he knows only my name from Goanet) telling Goans all
about the intricacies of Recycling and Composting to prepare for the
monsoons in Goa.

If Clinton were 28 years old in 1960, he would be advising his
Benaulim (that's where he comes from, I think) audience thus:

Take all your dry firewood and store them in the barn to avoid the rain.
Go to Margao and buy fresh sausages so that you can hang them over the
wood fire in the kitchen to cure them.
While in Margao buy saltfish and furniture at the Holy Spirit Fair.
You can get better prices than other times.
Keep a stock of the feni that was surplus this season. Comes in good
use for gloomy rainy days. In fact good for everything.
Buy all the herbs and medicines that you will require for 3 months.
The village doctor does not make home calls since his motorcycle slips
in the water.
Buy rubber flip-flops. You will ruin your leather shoes and sandals in
the wet mud.
Catch frogs in fields and ponds. They provide good nutrition, are
tasty and best of all free.
Buy tobacco and beedis for your grandmother. if she is not happy, she
will not cook those tasty dishes.
Go to Joao the poder's house and tell him you agree to higher prices
on very rainy days. If you don't do that, he'll skip your house and
you'll have to settle for Canjee those mornings.
Make sure of your stock of those jackfruit skins. You want good milk
from your cows and goats in wet weather.

And other advice in that vein.

Roland.


On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Clinton Vaz klint...@gmail.com wrote:
 The monsoons should arrive soon. Clinton Vaz suggests a few pre-monsoon tips
 to keeping your compost and recycling going through this monsoon season


[Goanet] Time to put sense into Goan women

2009-05-30 Thread Samir Kelekar

Roland writes:
I am not a fan of remaining in the marriage at any cost. There are
some good reasons for divorce. Violence, exploitation,
incompatibility, constant disrespect, are some of these. All I am
saying is that unfettering traditional ties that still have relevance
in today's world, should be considered after thinking not once ot
twice but ten, twenty or a hundred times. And that too only after
counselling and professional advice.

I fully agree with you Roland. All I am asking for, if you havent
noticed it, is thinking. Where was the thinking in these women who
went lock, stock and barrel to marry a married man ?
Where is the thinking in those who throng in lakhs to Kamakshi temple
in Shiroda every umas ?

Where is the thinking in our CM Digambar Kamat who visits every religious
ceremony religiously ?

If there is one thing Goa lacks today is thinking.  Of course, not so
the politicians who know to how to think to dupe people. Not so the
police who know how to think to show that the crime rate is reduced.
Not so the police who know how to sit when the politicians ask them to do
so,
and to stand when politicians ask them to do so. And not so the electorate who
are willing to sell their souls (read votes) for a couple of notes.

I would like to ask the parents of the victim women whom they voted for
in the last elections and why! Every one thinks that their vote won't
count; that it is someone else who will pay the price. Here are parents
who have paid the biggest price!!!


regards,
Samir



  


[Goanet] Padma Shree M. Boyer Ontorle

2009-05-30 Thread goa . world

  
Padma Shree M. Boyer Ontorle

Padmashree Manuel Satana Aguiar, Konknni rong-machier M.Boyer hea nanvan 
pollzollpi famad tiatrist az Mayeache 30ver, 2009 sokallchea 10 vaztam tanche 
ganv-ghora Santemol-Rai, hea sonvsarak ontorle. Tanchi pirai 78 vorsam asli. 
Gelea 3 vorsam te bholaiken bore nasle. Tancho zolm 11-10-1930 zal’lo. 
  
Konknni Tiatr mollar yogdan (contribution) kel’lean, tacho sotkar ‘Sangeet 
Natak Academy’-n kela. Ani tiatrisponnachea itihasan tannem poilo ‘Padma Shree’ 
puroskar zhoddun ghetla. Gelea 50 vorsam Konknni rong-machier tannem raj 
choloilem. Tannem boroun digdorxit kel’le famad tiatr “Sonvsar Suddorlo” ani 
“Ekuch Rosto” omor ugddasache zatele. 
  
 Somplelea M. Boyerache familik, Goa-world.com Team dukhest bhuzvonn dita.




 





Re: [Goanet] Ayurvedic Medicines Heavy metal issue

2009-05-30 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Fri, 5/29/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ayurvedic Medicines  Heavy metal issue
 Prof.K.R.Kohli M.D(Ay), Ph.D
 Director-Ayurveda Research
 Dabur Research Foundation


We have a history of uninterrupted practice of these systems of medicine for 
last several thousands of years and confirming the safety of our 
traditionally being used products hence is not mandatory.
.
The negative publicity came as a result of just one study which does not
appear to be very well planned.


This article appears to be a false advertising piece on behalf of Dabur, whose 
products were found to contain unacceptable quantities of heavy metals, such as 
mercury, lead, arsenic and gold. No responsible person with a proper scientific 
education would have made the first statement above. Testing for safety and 
efficacy of any product advertised to be meant for public consumption ought to 
be mandatory, regardless of how ancient it is. Being ancient is no guarantee 
that it is safe and effective. Ancient fraudulent superstitions such as 
astrology, numerology and exorcism also have a long history of uninterrupted 
practice despite having been discredited time and again. 

The second statement appears to be a deliberate falsehood. There are in fact 
numerous well-planned studies published in the mainstream peer-reviewed 
scientific medical literature that document high amounts of heavy metals, as 
well as toxicities, of ayurvedic preparations made by companies such as Dabur.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


Re: [Goanet] Serial Killer: 12+2 is the latest tally

2009-05-30 Thread Carvalho

Hi Tony,
No apologies are necessary. We all know you didn't mean it the way it sounded.

Just to add a few more snippets about Goan cooks, in the 1930s, they were so 
popular in Iran, that Iran started a cookery school of their own to train their 
own local population to compete. By the 1940s, English officers refused to sail 
the seas unless they had a Goan cook and a Goan butler.

It goes to show that when Goans were handed lemons, they made lemonande out of 
the situation. They brought honour to a lowly paid, un-glamourous (if there is 
such a word) profession.

Yet, when given charge, put in a leadership role, they have reigned in 
dishonour.

Perhaps I am being biased and disrespectful in saying this, but have we simply 
failed to produce an honourable generation?

Best,
selma




--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Mea culpa!
 
  But what I wrote was because of my anger with the cops who
 fiddled with
 their petty haftas and challaning  helmetless riders
 and turning a blind eye
 towards rampant matka betting while these hapless women
 were being throttled
 by a monster!
 
 





Re: [Goanet] M Boyer

2009-05-30 Thread floriano


I tune in to AIR FM in the mornings as my mom who is 87 is eager to hear the 
Konkani songs.
When I broke the news to her of her favourite M Boyer's death, she was sad. 
However, I consoled her by telling her that her favourite FM radio will 
oblige her with M Boyer's songs today as a mark of respect to his long 
innings.


Sad to say that what was aired was just some unusual trash enough to make me 
shut off the radio with disgust.


Cheers to M Boyer.
Goa and Goans will never miss him.

floriano
goasuraj



- Original Message - 
From: Albert Desouza alizadeso...@hotmail.com

To: Major domo goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:42 PM
Subject: [Goanet] M Boyer



Albert writes

It is indeed sad to hear about the death of MBoyer. He was a great composer 
and his play always had social themes. Ekuch rosto brought unity between 
religions, sounsar sudorlo, Bhurgim bangar are some of the plays I can 
remember of his. He could compose songs at any moment of time even when he 
would be on the stage. He was a very simple man and never showed pride while 
moving with junior artist. He would respect other people . I was lucky to 
have acted with him in some of the tiatros of Fr.Freddy da Costa, Mike Mehta 
and he even acted in my own play Nirmon  when I had stagged in the school 
where I was teaching. In his death the state has lost one of the great 
artist .Our sincere sympathies with the family who always were with him when 
ever he staged his own plays. May his soul rest in peace




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[Goanet] Gujarat rights panel says biased cops beat Muslim men, fudged facts

2009-05-30 Thread Marshall Mendonza
This is the state of affairs in Narendra Modi's Gujarat where minoritities
can be trampled at will by an obliging police force and administration.


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/gujarat-rights-panel-says-biased-cops-beat-muslim-men-fudged-facts/468386/0


[Goanet] Spread of Hindutva worries activist

2009-05-30 Thread Marshall Mendonza
http://www.hindu.com/2009/05/24/stories/2009052454190400.htm


[Goanet] I am a millionaire!! Let us celebrate!!!

2009-05-30 Thread augusto pinto
Dears

At 4.54 a.m. today I received an sms on my mobile phone from ID-WEBSMS saying:

Congratulations!! Your mobile no. has been randomly selected for this
yrs award winning of Pounds 400,000,00 held inheld in UK. Coediately
mr.jack.for...@consultant.com

Now that I  am millionaire, I do not know what to do with so much
money. I suppose the first thing to do is to celebrate. When can we
have a party? Then can someone please help me to spend my riches
properly?

Cheers
Augusto ;-)


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Goa, India
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[Goanet] Preparing for the monsoons....

2009-05-30 Thread Vivian A. DSouza
Good additional advice from Roland Francis on preparing for the monsoons, 
EXCEPT for catching and eating Frogs, which is a big NO, NO.  Obviously Roland 
has been away from Goa for a long time, and is not aware of environmental 
issues here.  Catching Frogs and eating Frog meat is illegal in Goa.
The rest of your advice Roland was good and nostalgic.

  Vivian





[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Aiz Mhaka Falleam Tuka (Mottvi Khota)

2009-05-30 Thread lino dourado

 Aiz Mhaka Falleam Tuka 
 
Cupertina Dias do Rosario kallem anglem nhesun ghorantlem bhair sorun 
igorjechea vatten cholun vetana, samkaravelean cholun ietlea Romaldinha taka 
dhoddlem.
 Ago Cupertin, tumchea ghora tekun, somplelea Effermin-acho inter haddpak 
Padri Vigar gela ani tum khoim vetai go taktin?
Tea sunnea lagim hanv uloinaslim mhonn nokoi tum? Cupertin-an tiddken 
mhonnttlem.
 Somplelea mon’xank toxem ulovchem nhoi go. Hanv zannam tumi dusman mhonn tori 
astana tuvem tachea ghorcheank dukhest bhett dilear kitem zatalem? Eka kallar 
tumi mogacheo ixttinio asleo. Romaldinhan adlo ugddas kelo ani mornnache ghora 
dixen cholot ravlem.
Kal auchit rogot choddun Efferminak gombhir poristhitint hospitalant vhortana, 
vatteruch tannem hea sonvsarak adeus kelo. Aiz, tachea melole kuddicher nimnne 
sonskar asle. 
Cupertinan mornna ghora bhett dili nam kori ponn igorjent misak azir zalem ani 
bhailanchea ollint ravun ximiterint pavlem. 
Ximeterint bhitor sortana uzve bazuk mottea okxerean AIZ MHAKA FALLEAM TUKA 
oxem boroilelem tem vachtana Cupertina-chem kalliz bhirantin ghos korun 
hal'lem. Uspilolea fondda lagsaruch Cupertina ubem ravlem ani tea fonddak 
pollevn tacho sintid kaim fattlea iadichea somdirant uddki marun buskoll’lo.
 Cupertin ani Effermina ghott ixttinio asleo. Dogaim Ponnje-Altinho aslolea 
Dempo Kolegint poilem voros B.Com xiktalim. Cupertina ganvan Agxi-chem zalear 
Effermina ganvant Ribandar-achem aslem. Effermina don dhempam Cupertina von 
fuddem aslem. Mhonnchem, konnui cheddeachi ixttagot zoddunk, khellant toxench 
machier vantto ghevnk tem khub huxar aslem. Cupertina dusreachem mot ghetlea 
viret aplem pavl fuddem ghalinaslem, ponn konnem-i tachi patt khorpili tor 
tenvui sompeaponim konnachi patt soddpi nhoi aslem.
Cupertinacho mogacho sombond Miramarche Dhempe Kolejint B.Sc. tisrem voros 
xiktolea  sobit rupacho Saluzinho tornattea thaim aslo. Tancho mog eka 
kolejichea mellavea nimitan zalolo, ani disan-dis tancho mog mozbut zait vetalo.
Ek dis, Cupertin, aplea nhovreachi ghozal ghuttachea ani visvaxi ixttinink 
sangtana, tanchea mhorean Saluzinho ubo zalo. Saluzinhank pollevn Effermina 
sarkench dipkovlem. Khub sundor, agllotin mozbut, unchaien lamb, dolle azul, 
kensachi style Elvis Presley sarki ani pollevnk sarkoch ek chollchitrantlo hero 
koso diso.
 Efferminan aplea ixttinink visvas ghatt korun Saluzinhank aplo kelo ani tem, 
tachea thaim kazar zalem. Cupertinank khub dukhlem korem ponn, Effermin-achi 
koxe toren sudd (vigans) ghenvchem oxem tem sodanch chinttana ek dis okosmat 
taka eka tarvottea thaim soirik aili. Orxim taka tarvotti nhovro naka aslo. 
Zedna taka gomlem nhovro Agostinho, ganvan Santa Cruz-cho  ani Efferminacho 
xezari mhonn tedna ti soirik tannem soroll svikar keli. 
Adlo nhovro Saluzinho ani Curpetin-acho ghorkar Agostinho xezari ani ekdom 
ghott ixtt asle. Tanche ghorabe zori veg-vegle asle kore, ponn ekuch ghorabo 
kose zaun  te jiyetale. Saluzinachea ghorantlean ek dhang ubarlem zalear dusrem 
dhang Agostinha-che ghorachea umbrear pavtalem.
Kazar zaun Agostinho porto tarvar gelo ani nnov mhoineamni porot suttient ghora 
pavllo tedna to aplem ghor ani ghorachi vattuch visorlo.
Cupertinan ugtea mollar aslolea ghorak sorbonvttim durig bandlem ani xezarchea 
lokak kednai sorkaracho udkacho noll bond poddlo zalear tanchea baimcher udok 
vhorpak ievnchi-vechi asli ti vatt bond keli. Ghoracho paddoch vaddoilo ani 
pavsachem udok nollea velean Saluzinh-achea bhattant poddtta toxem kelem. 
Vaddea, vaddeantlea ghorabeamnim bhonvteli Saibinichi imaz Saluzinachea 
ghorantlean haddunk poddtta mhonn xembor metram pois aslolea Manuela-chea 
ghorantlean haddi. Ghorchim zon’varam chukon Cupertin-achea durgan bhitor 
sortat tedna dog Alsation sunnim aslim tanka sodun tanche bhognnar kori ani 
voilean fon korun dhomki ditalem. Babddo adlo nhovro Saluzinho apli chuk mhonn 
somzun monneponan sogllem sosun ghetalo. Curpertinank somzaunk Agostinhan khub 
proint kele. To suttient ghora astana Cupertinachem tondd bond astalem ani to 
porot tarvar vetoch tankam sotaupachem chalu dovortalem. Moro pasun sudd 
ghetlem oso tacho nichevuch aslo.
Mornancho kaxavn ximeterin bhitor haddun fonddachim dovorlo ani tachevelem 
dhampnnem kaddlem. Tea vellar Cupertinachi nodor ekdom dolle dhampun aslolea 
Efferminachea tonddar thirovli. Taka pollevn tachem ang xirxilem. Oxem tem taka 
polleat astana ek disnnem (vision) tachea dolleam samkara ailem. Somplolem 
Efferminha kaxanvantlem ubem zavn tachea thaim khontibhorit zaun uloita koxem 
dislem. 
 Hanv jivim astanam tuvem mhojer nodor ghalunk nam. Mhaka zap korunk nam. 
Mhoje chukik mafi diunk nam. Atam kiteak ailam lokak dakhounk?
Ago titlem chintun ailim nam hanv. Ximetirichea daraxim bhitor sortoleanchea 
hatant fulam ditat ponn hanv hea kantte ghevn ailam Curpetinan hatant aslole 
kantte dakhoun fuddem mhonnlem.  Otmo nasun foddant ghatlole kuddik pasun 
khoxttavtelim. 
Tuvem mhaka ani mhojea ghovak khub dukh 

Re: [Goanet] Will Mahanand cross quarter century?

2009-05-30 Thread floriano

tari pan.d indeed
:-)) ((:-




- Original Message - 
From: Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com

To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:22 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Will Mahanand cross quarter century?



Hi Samir,
This is an wrenching wager considering the context, and has a sporty feel 
to

it, like betting on number of runs in cricket, more so when the numerical
counter used is the (quarter) century: X scored a half century over YY
overs. ... 




Re: [Goanet] Serial Killer: 12+2 is the latest tally

2009-05-30 Thread Venantius Pinto
 Dear Tony,
I was not annoyed at the comparison made between cooks and the Goa Police.
We have all on occasion make such comparisons, albeit under extenuating
circumstances. Hence I responded with, I understand that you may not mean
what you are saying in real terms. What I always try and remember is to
respect ones past posts and you have been consistently very gracious.

Broadly speaking, it may perhaps do with the inadvertent manner in which
comparisons are often rendered in Konknni, though less so these days. Some
of it on our case may creep into our English. I have noticed myself saying
some peculiar stuff but have learnt to catch myself. In the past one heard
such comparisons like: To kitem, to barbeir. Tem hagudya baxin cholta. Amche
polis pottak izzolele. Tem cheddun? Sheeh -- rand tem. Poilam mugo ghara
amori zaun yeta.

So no beef from my side. BTW, nice Latin touch.
venantius



 From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Serial Killer: 12+2 is the latest tally

 Hi Venatius, Isabella, Selma et Al,

 I can understand your annoyance at my comparing the Goa Police with cooks
 even though unfavourably.

 Mea culpa!

  (deleted)


[Goanet] Goa news for May 31, 2009

2009-05-30 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa Coach Looking Forward To Sunday\'s Match - Goal.com
uarterfinal match against Mizoram on Sunday. Goa started their
Santosh Trophy campaign on Monday when they ...
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*** Foreigners tarnishing Goa\'s image: Ravi - Times of India

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*** Goa has gained success in all sectors: Kamat - Times of
India

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*** Goa eases into pre-quarterfinals - Hindu
ime champion Goa eased into the pre-quarterfinals of the
Nationalfootball championship for the Santosh Trophy, scoring a
4-0 victory ...
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*** A visionary ahead of his time - Times of India
mes of India, IndiaIn Goa's hall of fame, Francisco Luis Gomes
holds pride of place, except that the state has little
remembered one of its greatest sons. There is a statue of Gomes
in Panaji and a road named afterhim in Vasco. His house in
Navelim is crumbling. ...
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*** Mumbai tourists allege harassment by Goa police - Times of
India
ased youngsters alleged that the police harassed them for going
around ...
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*** BJP to introspect on its dwindling vote bank in Goa - Times
of India
mes of India, IndiaThey fell for the money tricks played by our
opponents, BJP Goa Spokesman Govind Parvatkar said on Saturday.
The BJP managed to retain its North Goa seat albeit with lesser
margin but lost South Goa election. BJP leader Sripad Naik
managed to score ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa-BJP-to-check-on-its-falling-margin/articleshow/4596800.cmscid=1251591390ei=e8EhSsf9DqGkM7mjxZQDusg=AFQjCNF5rKBMHISKl8TIXYMd91LjGfT_RQ

*** 2 cases of fire reported in S Goa - Times of India
nown readymade garment shop in the state's commercial capital
was engulfed in flames on Saturday afternoon after the
airconditioner within the premises got overheated and sparked
off a blaze. The owner of the shop, Mohammed Hanif, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/2-cases-of-fire-reported-in-S-Goa/articleshow/4599049.cmscid=0ei=e8EhSsf9DqGkM7mjxZQDusg=AFQjCNFLwTtFIR1-Klh9lJs3Gg6eTbp5xQ

*** After 23 years as state, 33 percent Goa legislators tainted
- Sify
fy, IndiaNarvekar was also the president of the Goa Cricket
Association. Of the powerful Alemao brothers, while elder
brother and Public Works Department Minister Churchill Alemao
has been booked under the National Securities Act and
Conservation of Foreign ...
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*** Goa tour: Mix it with beaches, booze  paragliding -
Economic Times
ay, while the beaches are fine for short spans of time, say
early in the morning or late in the evening, the thing to do is
to go para-gliding. And during the rest of the day, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Consumer-Life/Goa-tour-Mix-it-with-beaches-booze--paragliding/articleshow/4599092.cmscid=0ei=e8EhSsf9DqGkM7mjxZQDusg=AFQjCNFP5Fij0VqQQU_QvxpaVTBIBjEeoA


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Serial Killer: 16th Murder (Confession) is his 1st

2009-05-30 Thread JoeGoaUk

Serial Killer: 16th  Murder Confession is his 1st

Mahanand Score so far:  14+1+1=16

It does look like the score will touch 25 i.e. qtr of a Century .

It seems he has done it so many times that he don’t ever remember his all 
victims name.
e.g. 15th Victim, he does not remember the name.

There was a report saying that he even killed one door-to-door salesman (Woman) 
when she approached his door (this is not counted in the score)

 The interesting part of the latest confession is that this is his first murder 
i.e. July 29, 1994 (Victim being Gulabi, 30 from Dabal). He smashed her face 
with a large stone.

Dharshan Naik’s being the second murder just after 2 months of the first one.

 check this for updates and past list of confessions etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/3511375836/

 
'The more he reveals, the more Goa Police is exposed'

joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

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For Hospital, Police, Fire etc