[Goanet] 3-Mumbai Goan Association invites you to 1st W orld Goa Day 2009, 13/12/09
Photos from Goa's 2009 mando festival: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ Event on Wed, Thurs evening from 5 pm onwards, Kala Academy, Panaji-Goa Dear E-mail Friends and Family, Please forward this e-mail to everyone on yr e-mail list. Please attend the programme in large numbers in order to make the programme a huge success. Regards, Jane(+919820214635) == MUMBAI GOAN ASSOCIATION (M.G.A.) INVITES GOANS / NON-GOANS OF ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES TO CELEBRATE - 1ST WORLD GOA DAY - MUMBAI - 2009 , VIVA GOA -! COME, ENJOY AND SAVOUR THE TASTE OF AUTHENTIC GOAN CUISINE AND WONDERFUL LILTING GOAN MUSIC AND THE HOSPITALITY OF GOA. VENUE : OUR LADY OF PRPETUAL SUCCOUR CHURCH, O.L.P.S. SCHOOL QUADRANGLE, NEAR DIAMOND GARDEN, CHEMBUR, MUMBAI 400 071 TIME : 10.30 AM TO 3.00 PM DATE : SUNDAY, 13TH DECEMBER, 2009 MASS : OLPS CHURCH 9.30AM MASS === PROGRAMME :- (10.30AM TO 3PM) * DANCING (GOAN/WESTERN), *SINGING -- (GOAN/PORTUGESE/ENGLISH/HINDI/MARATHI), *GAMES FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN, *GIFTS FOR CHILDREN, *LUCKY DIP - FOR HAMPER WORTH RS. 500/-, * GIFTS FOR LUCKY NUMBER ON ENTRY CARD AND NOVELTY DANCE, *HOUSIE, *GET-TO-GETHER, *INTRODUCTION OF SPINSTERS AND BACHELORS, GOAN FOOD ETC. ,* STALLS - selling goan food, sweets, etc. THE FOLLOWING STARS OF THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, WILL ALSO SING AT THE PROGRAMME :- **Dr. Victor Rodrigues (Tivim Village), **Dr. J. Peter Rodrigues (Tivim Village), ** Dr. Brian Pinto (Pompurpa village, Aldona), The well-known Goan singers, Allan Vaz will also perform live at the programme.(mo. No.+919820122474/-mail vazal...@gmail.com Please collect immediately, INVITATION PASSES (Including Breakfast , Lunch and Desert) Rs. 200/- per head Adults / Rs. 100/- per head for children from:- (A) Dr. Victor Rodrigues Dental Clinic - 6, Churchill Chambers, 32, Mere Weather Road, Colaba, Mumbai 41.(Mo 9820214635/9324228953) (9am to 1pm daily) (B) DR. J. PETER RODRIGUES ENT CLINICS & HEARING AID CENTRES :- (1) 1, Henry house, 45-C Chappel Road, Opp. Enid Bldg, Bandra(W), Mumbai - 400 050. ph. no.: 9820061317 / 9820214635/9324228953 Time - 11am - 4pm - (daily) & e-mail: janerodrigu...@rediffmail.com (2) 6,Churchill Chambers,32,Mere Weather Road, Colaba,Mumbai-400039 Ph. no.: 22027456/22830987/9820214635/9820061317/9324228953 Time: 6pm-10pm (daily). & e-mail : dr_peter_rodrig...@rediffmail.com © Bernice, Director of the well-known Mumbai Band ENIGMA residing at Khotachiwadi, Mumbai, Mo. No. +919821008381 (D) Catholic Gymkhana Office, Marine Drive, Mumbai Monday to Saturday -11.30am to 6pm Daily. (E) Jude Tandon(Chembur-9821503377), Ashley DSilva (Thane-9821070769, Belinda(Andheri-9821241216) Bus service available to travel to and from venue in comfort, please contact :-. Daphne Sardinha, mo. No.. +919820965648/ 26441945, e-mail daphnesardi...@yahoo.co.in KINDLY CONTACT US AND COLLECT FORMS FOR MEMBERSHIP Rs. 150/- per head (send us your photograph for id card). We request you to contact us immediately, if you want to book a Stall (Rs. 500/- per stall) FOR :- selling goan food, sweets, Indian and foreign airlines which fly to Goa, real estate developers of Goa, ETC., or, advertise your products/services in the Brochure, banners etc. Advtmt rates for Brochures 1. Full page coloured - Print area 20cms x 14 cms Rs. 2,000/- 2. Full page B/w - Print area 20cms x 14 cms Rs. 1,000/- 3. Half page - Print are 10cms x 14 cms Rs. 500/- 4. Quarter page - Print area 10cms x 7 cms Rs. 250/- Advtmt rates for banners Rs. 1000/- each. Any other information required, kindly contact us vide e-mail/sms:- (mo. no. +919820214635 / +919324228953)/janerodrigu...@rediffmail.com COME AND ENJOY !! FROM Dr. J. Peter Rodrigues (Vice-President MGA),Hon Head, ENT Dptmt St. Georges Govtmt Hospital, VT, MUMBAI And Holy Family Hospital, Bandra(W),Mumbai, Dr. Brian Pinto Cardiologist, Holy Family Hospital, Mumbai, Com.Member-MGA Dr. Victor Rodrigues Dentist, Mumbai.-Com.Member-MGA Ashley DSilva Gen. Secy MGA Belinda DSilva Vice-President MGA Jude Tandon President MGA Regards, Jane Rodrigues
[Goanet] 2012-ant sonvsar somptolo?
Photos from Goa's 2009 mando festival: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ Event on Wed, Thurs evening from 5 pm onwards, Kala Academy, Panaji-Goa 2012-ant sonvsar somptolo? Dezembrache 21ver, 2012 vorsa sonvsar somptolo! Dokxinn Amerikecho Mayan Kalendar oxem mhonnta. Punn Hollywood-antlem '2012' cholchitr Mayan Kalendrachi sangnni ghoddnnechea rupan dakoita. Ami kitem korchem? Sonvsar sompot yeta? Mayan Kalendracho fuddaracho odmas sarko asa? Hindi bhaxentlean Maya mhonche bhrom' (illusion). 2012 vorsa sonvsar somptolo hem Mayan Kalendarachem sangnnem hem kitlem khorem kai? Vo to fokot bhrom' kai? Vo Hollywood ogich gondoll korta? Sonvsar somptolo vo tea vella vixim veg-vegllo lok kitem mhonnta? Judevponn, Kristanvponn ani Islam sonvsaracho xevott zatolo ani xevottachi nit astoli mhunn mandtat. Musolman taka Qayamat ka Din mhonntat. Povitr Pustok sangta tea pormannem, Jezuchea dusrea yennea borabor ani rochnneche nove survate, ani novea sorga vangdda nove prithumechea xevottachi mon'subi astoli. Hindu dhormak survatecho ani xevottacho orth kitem tem khobor na. Ho dhorm’ Satyayug, Trethayug, Dwaparyug ani sodeachem Kaliyug mandta. Dor ek yugacho kall milhanv vorsam vistarlolo asta. Sodeacho Kaliyug somptoch, ami porot Satyayugant vetele, ani hem porot-porot oxench choltolem. Nostradamus ani Malachy hannim Euro-kendrit ani Bhagevont-Bap kendrit nodrentlean fuddaracheo ghoddnneo adinch fuddem sangloleo. Sonvsarachea xevotta vixim te kitem mhonntat? Nostradamus (Michael de Nostradame) (1503-1566) hannem aplea Leo Propreties (1555) pustokant fuddaracheo 942 gozali sangun dovorleat. Punn heram porim tacheo-i teo sangnneo itleo voilea voir, ki teo gozali konnachean-ui apnnak zai te toren bosounk sodum yeta. Tannem teg zann Krista-add aslolea mon’xanchem bhakit kel’lem. Tantuntle don, Napoleon ani Hitler. Tisro azun-ui yeuncho asa. To distolo tednam sonvsaracho xevott zatolo kai? 12vea xekddeant Ut’tor Irelandantlea Armaghantlo bisp aslolea St. Malachychi bhakitam matxe chodd nixchit aslim. Tannem Pap Saibam vixim 112 bhakitam kel’lim. Tea ankddean vochot zalear, sodeacho Benedict XVI Bhagevont-Bap ho 111vo mhonntoch, eklo urlo. Xevottachem bhakit oxem mhonnta - “Romache Igorjechea xevottachea dhumallea vellar, ti sodri Romacho Peter ghetolo. To, koxttam vellar aplea menddrank bhoroitolo ani heo gozali somptoch, sat-dongurleanchem xarachem nisonnton kortele, ani bhirankull Nitidar aplea lokachi nit kortolo. Toch xevott.” Mhonntoch Malachy amkam mon’subechea disak ami xevottak lagim vhorta. Punn koslo xevott - Igorjecho, Kristanvponnacho, Bhagevont-Baponnacho, prithvecho, vo puray sonvsaracho? Osle proxn nhoi mhunn tankam zap diunk Malachy kodde tank nasli. Punn Vijnean vo 'astrophysics' kitem mhonnta? Albert Einsteina uprant vhoddantlo vhodd ‘astrophics’ mhollear Stephen Hawking. 'A Brief History of Time' hea pustokant tannem vell ho rochnne adim asunk na oxem mhonnlolea totv-gineani Immanuel Kant ani St. Augustinacho ul'lekh kela. 1929 vorsa, sonvsar vaddot veta tem sodun kaddlem. Hantuntlean, vell ani zago zo bilhanv vorsam fattim suru zalo mhonnpi 'Big Bang Theory' zolma aili. Vistaracho nett unno zalo astana-i 'gravity' vaddtoli oxem Vijneanik purave sangtat. Hacho porinnam' 'Big Banga' urfatto aslolea vhodd chogoddpant (Big Crunch) zatolo. Ani taka anik 10 tim 20 vorsam lagtolim! Zalear, hea bilhanv vorsamni Mayan, Nostradamus vo Malachy khuim sonstat? Nostradumus ani Malachy dog-ui Euro-kendrit. Punn puray sonvsaracho diameter 8 bilhanv uzvaddachim vorsam asa. Xembor bilhanv noketranchi, sumar xembor bilhanv 'galaxies' asat. Prithvi hi tantuntlea vixall sonvsaracho ek bhag. Ani Europ hem prithvecher lhan khondd. Zalear Nostradamus vo Malachychem sangnnechi kholay hantum khuim bosta? Sabar Kristi provochonkar, kherit toren Xubhvortomankar, bhuimkamp, budd'tti, dukoll ani zhuz hem Prokasnnechea pustokant mellta tachi gozal sangtat. Te eksarkeponn polleun, kaiche kai chintun sonvsaracho xevott lagim pavla sangtat. He vixim, Povitr Pustokachea zannaranchem ani 'Exegete'-anchem vegllem mot asa. Taka don gozali asat- vixvache ghutt ani fuddarache ghutt. Taka don prostav asat ek 'terrestial' ani dusrem 'celestial'. Itihasik nodrentlean, Kristanvanchea dhumallea vellar kherit bhaxen Romacho Patxay Domitian (81-96 AD) hannem boroylolem. Tem veg-veglle zhorintlean ekttailam. Taka sahitik mol nhoi mhunn chintnanchi udorgot na. Prokasnnechea Pustokant boroilam tache poros-ui tem chodd khunnadik asa. Mhonntoch Prokasnnechea pustokantlea ghuspagondollachea khunnancher adarun bhugolik (geographical) vo 'chronological' parkonnim korop bhirantichem. Khubxe Kristanv 'Apocalypse’-acho ul'lekh kortat. ‘Apocalypse' hem Grik utor ‘apokalypsis' utrantlean ailam
[Goanet] 2009 Christmas Greetings to loved ones in Goa
Photos from Goa's 2009 mando festival: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ Event on Wed, Thurs evening from 5 pm onwards, Kala Academy, Panaji-Goa Unlike previous years we are not offering a ready Package or Hamper this year but allowing our clients to choose what they would like delivered. The basic minimum consists of a Christmas Flower Arrangement of red roses and greens, accompanied by a Greeting Card, delivered anywhere in Goa for an all-inclusive Rs. 600/- only. Add ons: 1 kg Christmas Cake - Rs. 450/- Christmas Tree Sapling - Rs. 400/- Sparkling Wine - Rs. 350/- 1 kg Bebinca - Rs. 300/- Spread the Christmas cheer, even when you're not here! These Christmas Greetings will be delivered to your loved ones in the week before Christmas (from 21st to 24th December). A great offer at a very reasonable price that includes delivery anywhere in Goa. Details we need from you (Please send each order as a separate e-mail with Subject being "2009 Christmas Greetings") - Your Name: Address: E-mail address and phone: (for any clarifications / confirmations): Recipient's Name: Address (with directions and landmarks): Telephone (just in case): Your Message to recipient (to be inscribed inside the Christmas card): Add-ons: - Please note: 1) Because of the logistics of preparation of fresh flower arrangements, and delivery, we will be entertaining a limited number of orders on a 'first come, first serve' basis. 2) In the pre-Christmas week (21st to 24th) our other normal flower delivery services will only be available to our existing clients. Just mention when was the last time you placed an order with us (date and recipient). Requests for 'specific time' delivery or photographs will not be entertained during these days. 3) We will accept orders only uptil 19th December 2009. No orders will be accepted after that. 4) Mog asundim! E-mail us the order form at: < expressions...@gmail.com> or In Kuwait contact Gaspar Almeida at or Mobile: 9300257 In Bahrain contact G. R. Crasto at (Res) 296613 (Off) 214790 Fax: 223575 In Qatar contact Simon D'Silva at: Mobile: +9745550491 In Dubai contact Winnie Fernandes: Mobile: 050-6987232 To know how good EXPRESSIONS services are just ask any of our satisfied clients the world over. ==
[Goanet] Birth Centenary of Famous Goan - Constancio Fernandes
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CONSTANCIO FERNANDES ( 1909 - 1980) Renown Goan Artist, Sculptor, Poet, Violinist and Thinker. Born in Margao, Goa, and educated in Portuguese and English. Attended J J College of Arts in Mumbai for some time. Executed sculpture works in Marble, Bronze and Cement in erstwhile Bombay and later in Goa. Some of his well known works are a bronze bust of Padre Jose Vaz (displayed in the Margao Church Square) Abade Faria a black stone larger-than-life statue next to the old Secretariat (accordng to belle lettriste Nora Secco de Souza), Mahatma Gandhi and Young India, Thinker, Eve after the sin (sculpture and painting), Mors Liberatrix, Sir Lalubhai Samaldas, painting on canvas of Christ with Crown of Thorns and Eve ascending to heaven and several others. Some of these works were displayed at the Jehangir Art Gallery, Mumbai and also held displays at Clube Vasco da Gama (Menezes Braganca Hall. He has also executed many other sculptures of famous Indian, Portuguese and Goan personalities, some of which are displayed in the Municipal Garden, Margao, and in other cities of Goa. His "sculptural relief" or murals can be seen above the front entrance of Comunidade building, Margao and Municipal Market, Mapusa. When Pope Paul VI visited Mumbai in 1964, Constancio was selected to present in person, a miniatue bronze bust of Mahatma Gandhi to his Holiness, on behalf of Goans. He was awarded a gold medal for the huge cement statue of Mahatma Gandhi displayed at the first Industrial Exhibition, held at the Fatorda ground, in late sixties by the then finance Minister Shri Morarji Dessai. His Poems in English & Portuguese languages, were mainly published on local Goan daylies, O Heraldo and A Vida. He had great passion for classical music, he enjoyed playing violin and listening to concerts of Paganini and Mozart, played by the great violinist Yehudi Menuhin. He died on April 1, 1980 after suffering from prolonged illness due to multiple sclerosis. On December 9, 2009, he will complete his birth centenary. Thanks Dom Martin for the heads-up!! SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Goa
[Goanet] Celebrating Education through Inclusion
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jyot Society Parents of Children with Intellectual Deficiency C/o Eizabeth Kurian, 1788, Gopal Nagar, Alto Porvorim, Goa 403521 Ph.: 0832- 2412318 Reg No. 230/ Goa/ 02 PRESS RELEASE Celebrating Education through Inclusion Jyot Society, North Goa will be organizing its 3rd Annual Inclusion event, where children with special needs will be paired with children from the regular schools and will participate in the various activities such as games, art & craft, music & dance sessions. The theme of the party is ‘Inclusion – learning with each other and from each other’. The focus of the party is to help raise awareness about the positive contributions of inclusive education. As parents, we believe that children with special needs should attend school alongside regular students so as to benefit from inclusion. More importantly children at regular schools learn to respect, value, understand and accept children with special needs. The party will be held at the Holy Cross High School, Bastora on the 12th of December from 9.00 a.m. – 12.30 p.m. and is sponsored by the Rotaries Riviera, Panjim . =
[Goanet] Anyone has the guts to hold GoaNetters meet in Morjim?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Venantius writes: >Seriously why the word "guts"? > How about, "Hey all, how about holding the meet in Morjim?" >Just suggest it! >venantius >Ok, here it is. Everyone is invited for the GoaNetters meet at Morjim on 31 st night. Guests are requested to come with a gun each to free Goa from the Russian Mafia. samir Kelekar For >Azad Gomantak Dal - II Hi All: This is a tongue-in-cheek comment so dont take it literally, or else I might get hauled up for promoting violence on a public forum. My apologies if it is misunderstood. regards, Samir
[Goanet] No water supply to Porvorim
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Even as the Hon'ble High Court of Bombay at Goa has directed the Prinicpal chief engineeer PWD to file an affidavit within one week on the steps taken to asssure a constant supply of potable water to residents of Porvorim and Mapusa, several areas of Porvorim continue to have no water supply for the third day today. Last weekend there was no water for four days citing some breakdown. Ready made excuses like turbidity, low voltage, pipe burst, pump brekdown are common and there is no one to take account whether these are facts. The HC has observed that access to safe and potable drinking water falls under the ambit of Right to Life as is guaranteed in article 21 of the Constitution of India. The MLA Dayanand Narvekar is now inciting people to agitate but this was the man just two years ago was pushing the IT Park at Socorro. He had claimed that there is ample water and activists raising the issue were ridiculed by his 2 retired professors and a bunch of stooges. Where are th ey now? Guys like Frederick have problems when we raise the issue of migrant influx. What is his solution to the water crisis now in as early as October -December after a extremely good rainfall? Does the right to migrate anywhere in India mean that one goes and deprives the local population of their fundamental rights? Do the Goans have a right to protect their livelihood and culture? Frederick needs a dose of feni to come to his senses. A Telengana type relentless agitation seems the only solution for Goans. The options are fast narrowing. -soter
[Goanet] RIP goa
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you have to throw out outsiders, throw out DLF, Vedanta and the other big time costruction companies and mining companies first (There have been 111 mining leases granted in the last few years in Goa), rather than the poor migrant souls who live hand-to-mouth. As I have mentioned, anyone --- Goan or non-Goan --- who is owning Vedanta or DLF (see the havoc DLF is creating by Dabolim hill-cutting) stocks are the destroyers of Goa. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Trying to contact: Dr Susheela Fonseca
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * By any chance, does anyone have a contact number for Dr Susheela Fonseca (in Margao, I think)? A classmate wants to get in touch... FN -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa
Re: [Goanet] Virgin coconut oil...
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Thanks Santosh, For putting sense into the likes of Floriano and Fred, on this topic. I cannot believe that these two eminent goanet persons are that gullible to hearsay on the internet. I hope this is a fitting and final 'lesson' to ignorance re this topic etc. OR are Floriano and Fred just jesting, joking, and trying to compete with others who were with like views on ayurveda and homeopathy non sense?? Cheers! Nascy Caldeira Melbourne Down Under. -- --- On Sun, 6/12/09, Santosh Helekar wrote: > --- On Fri, 12/4/09, floriano wrote: > > But Mario, one thing puzzles me. We in Goa ate nothing > but coconut copra oil for ages and if people died of > choked cardio vascular systems and high LDL we would never > know. > > But sure as hell they didn't die at 40-45 :-)). Then,all of > > a sudden this staple became the killer and they fall off > > their feet at 40-45, very much dead. Can you solve > this puzzle for me please?? -- Santosh: > There is no such puzzle. The manufactured puzzle results > from ignorance about the history of medicine and the state > of public health in Goa and the rest of the world. In the > old days that Floriano remembers people used to die before > the age of 30 from typhoid, tuberculosis, cholera, small > pox, pneumonia and wound infections. They did not live long > enough to die from a heart attack or stroke. It was only the > lucky ones who lived to see 40 or 45, not having caught the > infections. The few who lived much longer were in addition > naturally selected by their genes. > > Hundred years ago the life expectancy of a human being in > India was 25 years. This was during the heyday of all kinds > of faith-based nostrums - Ayurveda, Homeopathy and home > remedies of housewives and grandmothers. In 1947 when > Indians were finally able to die free, they could only > expect to live for 36 years. In 1961 when Portugal was > liberated from the burden of Goa, a naturalized first-class > Indian citizen in Goa was lucky if he/she could survive > beyond 42 years of age, still not long enough for Floriano > to see significant number of people dying from heart > attacks. > > Today, any toddler in India can hope to live on an average > for 70 years, long enough to have a good chance of being a > cancer or stroke victim and survivor. > Santosh __ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
Re: [Goanet] Goa RIP
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Photos from the 43rd Mando Festival, Dec 9-10, 2009 at the Kala Academy (5 pm onwards) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157622843319441/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I have been informed that Anna & I have a common ancestor in the Figueiredo line... Gabriel - Original Message > From: "J. Colaco < jc>" > To: goa...@goanet.org > Cc: Tony de Sa > Sent: Thu, 10 December, 2009 2:34:06 AM > Subject: [Goanet] Goa RIP > > Comment: and, no doubt unfortunately for Anna, yours truly is > connected to a family in Aldona which might be related to her! > > jc __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/
[Goanet] Goa news for December 10, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa Police yet to summon accused in Russian rape case - Press Trust of India inds-13-bruises-on-goa-rape-victims-body/106628-3.html&usg=AFQjCNF9e1b8JlA6-UoHC7PDvHxfAhSJCw">Test finds 13 bruises on Goa rape victim's body http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.ptinews.com/news/412601_Goa-Police-yet-to-summon-accused-in-Russian-rape-case&usg=AFQjCNFK_0EftU4aLt-SSG129cTEJA96iQ *** Goa home ministry takes exception to blast report submission - Daily News & Analysis ovt-may-transfer-sanatan.html&usg=AFQjCNFdwtE8rW3DD-2vRStiL_vBqY_fPw">Goa govt may transfer Sanatan case to NIA http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-home-ministry-takes-exception-to-blast-report-submission_1321028&usg=AFQjCNEozxv8YhGqwcGuyoKY3Dhu0D_8nw *** Sixty per cent of India's iron ore exports come from Goa - domain-B Goa accounted for 60 per cent of the country's iron ore exports and India exported about 46 million tonnes of the commodity during the year 2008, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.domain-b.com/industry/Mining/20091207_environmental.html&usg=AFQjCNHTNYGPqIytiK8ah2Pz93gYAJpw_g *** Court clears 'Goa' - IndiaGlitz 4GMoKLNUbd1qYAOMvHOLhUGxw">Time granted to Soundarya Rajnikant to give bank guarantees http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/52372.html&usg=AFQjCNGOzrT6sodwg7dIRQ5p-k97cvad-w *** Headley visited Goa, surveyed 2 beaches - Hindustan Times eadley-helped-plan-26-11-attacks-US-court/H1-Article1-484056.aspx&usg=AFQjCNFJggsJ3HyhOInAXgbrl-K0V9eL6Q">Headley charged with conspiracy in 26/11 attacks in US court http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/newdelhi/Headley-visited-Goa-surveyed-2-beaches/484056/H1-Article1-484051.aspx&usg=AFQjCNFggb5lwP2DSXyw85EDp3ody1S_mw *** Goa cop's son was driving police chief's car during accident - Sify ear-old son rammed into an electricity pole in the wee hours of Dec 5, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://sify.com/news/Goa-cop-39-s-son-was-driving-police-chief-39-s-car-during-accident-news-jmhwuccdcbc.html&usg=AFQjCNEJInr3s9hsCKUM-csjWWcYi2YfCg *** Goa: India's tourist paradise gone wrong - Business Times (subscription) siness Times (subscription)But in Goa, this major source of income is turning out to be a double edged sword. The damaging consequences overshadow the benefits it brings. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/html/btpre/registration/redirect.jsp?dlink=/sub/views/story/0,4574,362848,00.html&usg=AFQjCNE3PNB3-2ycBw8R3CM1dTFzSGblVA *** Property giants bet big on Goa - Business Standard siness StandardProperty majors DLF, Parsvnath and a host of others are reviving their interest in tourist hotspot Goa, hoping that renewed investor interest will drive ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/property-giants-bet-biggoa/378892/&usg=AFQjCNGnHdlCbq90t6ZbwxfeiPoLrXV1HQ *** 12 Goan diaspora youth connect to land of forefathers - Times of India SoM">and more » http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/12-Goan-diaspora-youth-connect-to-land-of-forefathers-/articleshow/5309320.cms&usg=AFQjCNEuzQfjFo00EkbYk11SY7SM5oTmwQ *** Court raises questions over noise law in Goa - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Can a person be prosecuted for violation of an act that has been extended to Goa, but not yet notified? A local court has sought to know from the ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5312644.cms&usg=AFQjCNFBzAILlD-_QxxGmMkbZtQQuO8yew Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Fw: NYTimes.com: In India, Anxiety Over the Slow Pace of Innovation
BUSINESS / GLOBAL BUSINESS | December 09, 2009 In India, Anxiety Over the Slow Pace of Innovation By VIKAS BAJAJ Indians fret that Bangalore, and India more broadly, will remain a low-cost satellite office of the West, rather than a hotbed of entrepreneurship. Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy
[Goanet] Earlier this evening... at the mando festival
At the mando festival... a lady-performer awaits her group's turn on stage late Wednesday evening: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4171709887/ Tomorrow (Thursday) is the last day of two-day festival at the Kala Academy. Check it out if you haven't been there yet. FN -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fredericknoronha Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
[Goanet] Fr. Joseph Velinkar and Thomas Stephens
(excerpt from a blog by Ivo Coelho) Fr Joseph Velinkar, SJ, Director of the Heras Institute at St Xavier's College, Mumbai, just dropped in. He said some interesting things. He - or his students - have collected matter on Rudolph Acquaviva, SJ and Thomas Stephens, SJ, for PhD theses in the University of Bombay, but the topics were not approved by the University on the grounds that the matter had to be available within India. So the theses are blocked. Fr Velinkar himself could go ahead and publish something, but he says that would be cutting off his students http://indianchristianwritings.blogspot.com/ More on Ivo here: http://www.blogger.com/profile/16013091164713506463 Dr. Ivo Coelho, SDB is Chair of Gnoseology and Metaphysics at Divyadaan, Salesian Institute of Philosophy http://www.divyadaan.org/ + venantius j pinto
[Goanet] God and You
Albert writes:- We have not understood Jesus' first coming what will we understand about his second coming? In the first coming of Jesus, he changed the attitude of Jews then and it is ours now.Jesus taught us that rules are made for man and not the other way about. Where is it written that Roman Catholics have achieved the kingdom of heaven ? on what ground can we say that? We never follow the first commandment of God which says that " I am the Almighty God and there can be no other gods before me ? Roman Catholics have converted Mary into a Person having hundred heads with each head bearing one name. We feel that Mary will take us to Heaven. We are told to replace Prayers with Rosary. Could'nt our religious leaders teach us a better way to bow before the Almighty God, adore Him, ? We have nothing of that sort. What we have is celebration of feasts. Wearing of opmus and going about in processions. The more gondals the better is the feast and the more musicians the feast is grand .We hear mass, roam around the fair go home drink a large dose of Whiskey, eat sorpotel with sanna and go to bed to wake up late at night to find that our head is aching because we had too many pegs. Our lives are the same, our attitude are the same, our behaviour is the same. We are selfish people always thinking about the crown that should come to our head and we think of glory that we have to achieve in this world and that the world should recognise us as great people. We boast of our attire and our power but when we go seven feet down the earth it becomes septre and crown must tumble down and dust be equally made. Your pride, your false glory, your intelligent, your philosophy, and other logy will be burried with you. A placard at your grave will sound better which should read" Here is a fool who boasted of his greatness and now is lying still not knowing that worms are formed of his beautiful and grand body . _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
Re: [Goanet] Goa RIP
2009/12/9 George Pinto : Yes Tony, I stand corrected. Anna is ethnically Goan. Mea culpa. == Baba George, What is this "ethnically Goan" stuff? Anna is Goan Full Stop. That is where I remember seeing her during my college days and that is where her parents had, and now she has a homestead. jc
Re: [Goanet] German decline post-1918.
There were punitive reparations ordered at Versailles, which drained the defeated country, but Florida, if you can believe it, was the last straw. It started with the railroad, but the arrival of air conditioning made living in the humid sub-tropical swamps possible and spurred the mass movement of retirees and vacationers to the region. Europe's banks, major financiers of the US railroad boom of the 1880's, jumped into action again and threw large sums at eager acquirers of Florida land and homes. The resultant capital flight was the last straw for the German economy: the depression that followed saw them shopping with million Reischmark bills in wheelbarrows, and starved corpses in the streets. The US partied for two decades - read about Broadway and the Gay Thirties - until the lack of public spending provoked the Great Depression of 1939. Roosevelt's taxes and a massive Public Work Program that produced the Hoover Dam, highways and Public Parkland, put millions to work again. Then came Pearl Harbour: on that day, the US had fewer men in uniform than Geece and Portugal ! Today's scenario has similar echoes: about a trillion dollars of public spending has reduced job losses to twelve thousand for the month, from one million for the same month a year ago. The cost will be passed on to major beneficiairies of the boom of the 80's and 90's: the rich, who dread inflation, and the likes of Japan and China, who soak the US for five billion a DAY, and then leave some on the Treasury table, money that will never make its way back to them again. eric. From: Jim Fernandes To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Cc: goanet ; "secular...@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 9:30:41 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mother's death affected Hitler, claims book These dates don't add up. World War I began in 1914 and ended in 1918. According to the below material, Hitler's mother passed away in 1907 - long before the First World War began. So how could the writer suggest that the Second World War (1939-1945) was started because of the First World War and which somehow is related to poor Adolf's mommy's death? Hitler was just a crazy jealous guy who didn't like Jews because they mostly ran German businesses and got wealthy - just my two cents. Jim F New York Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Marshall Mendonza wrote: > Extract: > > German dictator Adolf Hitler's hatred for Jews may have stemmed from his > belief that his mother was poisoned to death by a Jewish doctor, a new book > has claimed. > > In his book titled *November 9: How World War One Led To The > Holocaust,*author Joachim Riecker claims that the death of Hitler's > mother Klara, who > was diagnosed with breast cancer, left an indelible mark on the then > 18-year-old Adolf. > > Klara's doctor, Eduard Bloch, had administered iodoform on her which was > then the standard treatment for breast cancer, Ha'aretz reported. She died > from the treatment in 1907 at a young age of 47. > > "Hitler never forgave the Jewish doctor," Riecker told *The Telegraph.* > > "In conversations with aides such as Josef Goebbels, Hitler referred to the > Jews as being like TB and himself as a 'healer' who had to stamp it, and > consequently them, out," Riecker noted. > > http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/books/Mother-s-death-affected-Hitler-claims-book/Article1-484334.aspx
Re: [Goanet] Goa RIP
George, your slip underlined a valuable point! Who is to decide who's a "ethnically Goan" and who's not? While you are using progressive language to assuage our fears about your stance, I see you also go by the "ethnically Goan" logic. Is there such a thing? If so, what is the cut-off point? If we advocate curbs against people on grounds of ethnicity, migration or origin, do we support the same against Goans elsewhere (without the fig-leaf of an excuse that Goans don't overwhelm others!) For instance, in Idi Amin's Uganda? Are you saying that someone should get a Green Card in a few years, but not accepted as having the potential to contribute positively to Goa inspite of spending a generation here? This locals debate is a bizarre one. If I'm not mistaken, at Keri-Ponda, when locals were agitated about the 'locals' not getting jobs, they meant villagers, if not people from the vaddo in which the plant was being set up. The funniest one I heard was earlier this week, when a lady from a South Goa village said she was considered an "outsider" because she was married (and hence, should be based in her husband's village, and not her ancestral one!) FN PS: You guys are just finding a convenient scapegoat to pin all of Goa's ills on -- the migrant. Even a perfunctory look would show that all kinds of people, both local and migrant, are to blame for whatever you'll perceive as Goa's problems. You know who were the builders of the concrete of rent-backs along the coast, and who bought them. You know who sold lands to create concrete jungles and who left loopholes in the law to ensure that the "coconut tree is NOT a tree" in today's Goa. There are some big out-of-state players (DLF or Vedanta), whose actions would have strong impact on Goa's future. But to use this as an excuse for an anti-migrant binge isn't becoming of someone with the intelligence and good intentions of a George Pinto. 2009/12/9 George Pinto : > Yes Tony, I stand corrected. Anna is > ethnically Goan. Mea culpa. > The rest of my argument stands: i.e. > rich and poor migrants who engage in > illegal activities in Goa and detract from > Goa should not be welcome in Goa. -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fredericknoronha Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:13:04 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita Just for me to understand you properly: are you saying you have no reservations against such a high rate of Migration into Goa? If the answer to the latter is yes then, perhaps you should first convince other communities in India and the World around to allow large scale migration into their regions and decimate thier respective identities/language/culture. Mario responds: Arwin, Apparently unbeknownst only to you, legal and illegal migrations have been taking place throughout history. For the existing residents to have reservations is hardly the issue. The issue is what, if anything, can be done about it. Not everyone agrees it is anything to be too concerned about. This is certainly the case in Goa over the centuries, as Fred's post illustrates.
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
To Goanet - I am sorry I shall not engage the semi-literate smear-artist Frederick Noronha in any debate. The only thing to do is to shoo him away with a kick up his behind. I presume this was posted on Goanet. I will send a copy there as well (with some minor changes since the mods there are likely to censor this post citing the presence of certain words that are to them unacceptable.) I want Goa to be primarily for Goans, and to be run primarily by Goans. This is not the same as saying that I want Goa to be ONLY for Goans. I have no qualms whatsoever making this ethnically chauvinist proclamation and neither should any Niz Goenkar. This bullcrap about everyone being migrants is just that - bullcrap. Humans did not sprout forth from the ground, did they? Imagine what it would be like to have Goa run over by filthy UP bhaiyyas & Biharis, not to mention other assorted North Indian savages from Delhi and its surrounds, and assorted ghatis from all over India. Goa has been a pleasant, civilized place BECAUSE IT IS COMPOSED OF GOANS. I am the first in line to be critical of Goans. I am acutely aware of the shortcomings in our collective character, our internal fissures, and the frailties in our social makeup. But I don't want to hear any goddam Indian hectoring to us or lecturing to us. I mean, which paradise in India did you leave behind and came to Goa for us to emulate your achievements? Now I am a guy with an open mind. I will reconsider my position about Goa being primarily for Goans as soon as the Bengalis are willing turn over Bengal to non-Bengalis, as soon as Gujaratis hand over the reins of their state to non-Gujaratis, as soon as Tamils cede control of their own state to non-Tamils, as soon as Kannadigas agree to turn their destiny over to outsiders, as soon as...you get the idea. It is bizarre, the very idea that any Indian has locus standii to lecture us Goans about tolerance and acceptance! I say to these morons, Go Shove It. One more thing regarding this delusion some outsiders channel through their whores like FN about their 'contributions' to Goa. What contributions? We Goans were doing just fine before you parked your ass here. The contributions I shall make a case for are FROM US GOANS TO YOU, FROM GOA TO YOU. You were fleeing the sewers that your cities, towns and villages in India have turned into. That is why you showed up here. We Goans had a jolly good life before you burdened us with your presence, thank you. (Note especially to gits like Amitava Ghosh: culture didn't come to Goa with you. Stink and filth did.) Warm regards, r George Pinto wrote: > > Expat-Goans are NOT the issue in the current situation and >Frederick knows it but he likes to confuse the issue to further >his thesis "the migrant is the victim and the Goan is the victimizer". >Soon we will be told expat-Goans are victimizers too! > > Goan mega-projects are being built under dubious legal >provisions, likely all of them have some illegality associated >with them. Rich migrant builders use poor migrant workers >to build illegal structures to market to foreign nationals and >non-Goans (Bombay-wallahs, Delhi-wallahs, NRIs). That is a >major portion of the current "development" of Goa. No law >and order. > > In fact, when is the last time one saw a sentence with law >and order and migrant in it. When Goans complain about the >lack of law and order, some nonsense about caste, communal >elites is thrown into the argument to confuse the issue along >with "the migrant is the victim and the Goan is the victimizer". >Which is not to write that Goans are innocent, since Goan >politicians and the system have facilitated the illegalities >of mega-projects in Goa. > > Goa, RIP > > George > > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Frederick Noronha wrote: > > > George, I'm curious to know how you would view it if these > > very flats were sold to expat-Goans. Do we judge issues on basis of > > ethnicity, or what value it is adding to the place? FN > > > George Pinto : > > > If the mega projects (whether 8 flats or some > > > other number) are being built and marketed solely > > > to non-Goans and foreign nationals, why are you > > > not opposed to ALL such projects? How many Goans > > > are buying flats in these projects which are > > > destroying Goa? >
Re: [Goanet] Vedanta (Was: Anyone has the guts to hold GoaNetters meet in Morjim?)
Are you saying we can earn from the destruction of Goan soil by the kilo and then claim to be concerned about Goa? Either mining is good for Goa, or it isn't (the talk of "illegal mining" is a red herring by mineowners and their political henchmen who have wrecked legal havoc on many lives in interior Goa for decades now. Seby was dubbed a Naxalite for saying so in as many words!) If mining is causing destruction in Goa, can we claim to be concerned about Goan issues and also hope to earn from investing in mining companies? If mining really isn't cutting badly into the hinterland (and less along the coast), then there's no other issue we in Goa need to worry about, I'd say. FN 2009/12/9 Tony de Sa : > I have several shares in Vedanta's Sesa > Goa Limited. So what? This is a > pure business transaction and has nothing > to with a Goanetters meet where
Re: [Goanet] Catholic Pilgrimage to Israel - Lokhancho Adar
Floriano, I agree. The Goa govt. can't provide basic infrastructure but they are being asked to subsidize trips like these, including Youth Goan diaspora visits by well-off expat youth. George --- On Wed, 12/9/09, floriano wrote: > NT: Lokhancho Adar urges CM to subsidise pilgrimage. > H: CM urged to subsidise Catholic Pilgrimage. > > Bravo to Lokhancho Adar. This is classic vote-bank > politics. No such subsidies should be given to any religious club, including > the Haaj, with tax-payer's money. > The CM is hereby urged not to give in to popular demands of > vote-bank zealots at the cost of tax-payers. >
Re: [Goanet] Goa RIP
Yes Tony, I stand corrected. Anna is ethnically Goan. Mea culpa. The rest of my argument stands: i.e. rich and poor migrants who engage in illegal activities in Goa and detract from Goa should not be welcome in Goa. George
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Please read legal notice-MOEF- delhi (M/S Akar Creations Pvt Ltd)
hello Arwin please let me know if you studied in the New Indian school your name is very familiar. I was a teacher there so do reply ..thanksMavis On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Arwin Mesquita wrote: > Dear Goans, > > Please see the below email and respective Attachments. You can see yourself > the > influence of scruplous builders; hellbent on destroying Goa. This builder > in > question (i.e. M/S Akar Creations Pvt Lt) has already ravaged my village > Colva and > now is challenged in the courts by the Local Activists; fighting to > preserve what is > left of Goa. > > Attachments here: > http://bit.ly/5FjQl5 > > > Regards, > Arwin > > From" Siddarth Karapurkar > > sending pl find 3 attachments, > 1) a press note giving details in short > 2) a fax received from MOEF delhi > 3) notice sent to MOEF. > A mega project with more than 2 sqmts area needed environment > clearence but got licence to build without clearence. but when > citizens went to high court regarding illegalities of the project , > the builder produced a fax that MOEF will consider their application > that too dtd the same day on which the court hearing was held. > pl do needful > > > > -- > Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ > > > >
[Goanet] Goan diaspora visit motherland
I wonder the lucky dozen got lessons in how to corrupt or rape and kill? BC During their eight day stay in Goa, the participants interacted with the elected representatives of panchayats and Zilla Panchayat, minister and other political leaders, he said. They were also given a chance to witness village life of Goa -- they visited the Big Foot and Goa Chitra that
[Goanet] Vedanta (Was: Anyone has the guts to hold GoaNetters meet in Morjim?)
I have several shares in Vedanta's Sesa Goa Limited. So what? This is a pure business transaction and has nothing to with a Goanetters meet where this discussion took of from! And will you clever guys inform me why a holder of Vedanta's stock has to be a philanthropist? And why has the subject line been changed? If we want to discuss Vedanta, why not discuss it separately? After all, Sesa is still based in Goa. -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] Mother's death affected Hitler, claims book
These dates don't add up. World War I began in 1914 and ended in 1918. According to the below material, Hitler's mother passed away in 1907 - long before the First World War began. So how could the writer suggest that the Second World War (1939-1945) was started because of the First World War and which somehow is related to poor Adolf's mommy's death? Hitler was just a crazy jealous guy who didn't like Jews because they mostly ran German businesses and got wealthy - just my two cents. Jim F New York Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Marshall Mendonza wrote: Extract: German dictator Adolf Hitler's hatred for Jews may have stemmed from his belief that his mother was poisoned to death by a Jewish doctor, a new book has claimed. In his book titled *November 9: How World War One Led To The Holocaust,*author Joachim Riecker claims that the death of Hitler's mother Klara, who was diagnosed with breast cancer, left an indelible mark on the then 18-year-old Adolf. Klara's doctor, Eduard Bloch, had administered iodoform on her which was then the standard treatment for breast cancer, Ha'aretz reported. She died from the treatment in 1907 at a young age of 47. "Hitler never forgave the Jewish doctor," Riecker told *The Telegraph.* "In conversations with aides such as Josef Goebbels, Hitler referred to the Jews as being like TB and himself as a 'healer' who had to stamp it, and consequently them, out," Riecker noted. http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/books/Mother-s-death-affected-Hitler-claims-book/Article1-484334.aspx
[Goanet] Anyone has the guts to hold GoaNetters meet in Morjim?
Venantius writes: >Seriously why the word "guts"? > How about, "Hey all, how about holding the meet in Morjim?" >Just suggest it! >venantius Ok, here it is. Everyone is invited for the GoaNetters meet at Morjim on 31 st night. Guests are requested to come with a gun each to free Goa from the Russian Mafia. samir Kelekar For Azad Gomantak Dal - II
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: George Pinto What I am opposed to is rich migrant builders and rich migrant miners bringing in poor migrants workers to ILLEGALLY mine in Goa or ILLEGALLY build mega-projects which are marketed to foreign nationals and non-Goans. Hardly a controversial view unless one does not support the rule of law. Mario asks: Hey, George, a) What RULE OF LAW are you referring to if MIGRANT builders and MIGRANT miners can come from outside Goa and ILLEGALLY build and ILLEGALLY mine in Goa? b) Would these buildings and mines be LEGAL and ACCEPTABLE if they were marketed only to Goans? c) Do you have any evidence of ILLEGALITY? JUST ASKING.
[Goanet] Goa RIP
I expected the following from my favourite patracar who checks, rechecks and double-rechecks his facts before he manufactures them and then places them on the open market, not from George Pinto who wrote:"Many migrants have come to Goa and enhanced and added value to it (Claude Alvares, Heta Pandit, Anna Goswami, etc.) Tony de Sa responded: " FYI, Ana Maria Goswami is as Goan as a Moidekar can be and her maternal home is a few houses away from mine in Attafondem, Moira. Comment: and, no doubt unfortunately for Anna, yours truly is connected to a family in Aldona which might be related to her! jc
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
Frederick: >Tony, Please define "migrant". As I understand it, in today's parlance, 'migrant' is a generic term which implies someone who has moved into Goa post liberation/ invasion for purposes of work or settlement. It broadly covers those from other states of India particularly those engaged in porterage, construction, carpentry and other occupations. If you have a different conception, please be good enough to share it. Per se, I have nothing against migrants. What I am against is the rampant rape of the age old Goan institutions like the comunidades, the khazans, the mangroves, the peaceful life that we once lived, the comunal harmony, even in post liberation Goa till the advent of the full fledged 'professional' politicians who created vote banks by importing non-Goans. The question of ethnicity becomes aggravated in Goa because of its small size, unique cultural identity and lifestyle and the sudden integration with mainland lndia after a long sheltered colonial existence -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
[Goanet] 'HITLER'S ARMY IN SECULAR INDIA
Let us assume for a moment that the obscurantist brahmins of intellectually dark central India , who form the backbone of militant Hindu organizations like RSS , Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajrang Dal, and Shiv Sena succeed in their endeavour to capture political power in Delhi sometime in the near future. These people , I believe, are great admirers of Aryan Nazi rule in Germany and would obviously want to replicate the same in the socalled Aryan India. But could Sangh Parivar convert the Indian nation into a replica of Nazi Germany ? It is a 64 million dollar question that can be answered by comparing the people of Germany with those of India. Brahmins of India may think themselves to be intellectually superior people in the world but at least for the last thousand years of Indian history they \ proved to be utter failures. Germans are disciplined people whereas people of India thrive under chaotic conditions. An average German citizen or soldier is a dignified human being who can look straight into the eyes of his superior and tell him what he thinks and still be honoured and appreciated . Brahmins expect other people to cring before them in the insane spirit of Manusmriti. Can such obsequiously and servilely inclined population make a nation strong the way Nazis did for Germany ? Hitler's wehrmacht comprised of soldiers full of self dignity and wholesome psyche who put to shame Genghis Khan's conquests across Euro Asian continent.
Re: [Goanet] Catholic Pilgrimage to Israel - Lokhancho Adar
NT: Lokhancho Adar urges CM to subsidise pilgrimage. H: CM urged to subsidise Catholic Pilgrimage. Bravo to Lokhancho Adar. This is classic vote-bank politics. No such subsidies should be given to any religious club, including the Haaj, with tax-payer's money. The CM is hereby urged not to give in to popular demands of vote-bank zealots at the cost of tax-payers. Let the Church in Goa fully or partly subsidize such pilgrimages and let the faithful support such a drive with a cutting sacrificial edge. Why we must respect tax-payer's money is because such funds for subsidies come from the tax money of citizens of all faiths including citizens who profess no faith at all. Why should members of the other communities support such subsidies. Subsidies or public projects should be universal where members of all communities can use what is put in place. A Good Example: A misguided Moira Parish Priest and a few Moidekars wanted to build the new Moira Church Cemetery wing through MPLAD. This move was sensibly defeated and the beautiful cemetery wing has been built through funds by in-house community members to the tune of lacs of rupees. The argument that won the fight was that if the cemetery was built through MPLAD, then it should remain open for the burial of any and all community members, especially when epidemic or calamity strikes and mass burials are required. Goa Su-RajParty refrains from mixing religion with politics of governance. It believes that faith must grow through the sacrifices of the faithful or it must perish. It is said that when people demand roads, water, steady power supply, decent public transport, caring public health and sanitation etc..., most importantly, steady prices of essential food items, politicians aka governments give them churches, temples, mosques and every denominations thereof so that people's hands remain folded together in prayer and submission from the open, demanding and at times destructive hands. Floriano Lobo Gen. Secretary/Spokesperson Goa Su-Raj Party 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org Communalization of politics has serious consequences for culture of governance. It is when a party fails to provide good governance but still wants to gain or regain power that it plays the communal card. Communal politics is, thus, a threat both to our spiritual heritage from the past and our well being in the present. Swami Agnivesh
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
FN: Surely we can understand that migrations have taken place for centuries. Identities around the world like Goan Identity have taken years to develop. Also yes migration will continue but I hope you understand that that it should be controlled migration? Just for me to understand you properly: are you saying you have no reservations against such a high rate of Migration into Goa? If the answer to the latter is yes then, perhaps you should first convince other communities in India and the World around to allow large scale migration into their regions and decimate thier respective identities/language/culture . Arwin Message: 4 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:54:19 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP Message-ID: <11a806d20912090224m78d6c7f2s20ea9de8ba43f...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Tony, Please define "migrant". Goa's longest-serving post-1961 chief minister comes from a family that prides its own Rajput roots! Would we call someone a half-ghanti because his mother hails from minor royalty in Karnataka, or does our class bias show badly when we abuse such appelations? If you do a closer check of many MLAs, you'll find that their surnames come from places outside the Goa borders (never mind that the 'kar' suffix sounds sufficiently 'Goan'). Please tell me how your would treat an Amshekar or a Dhavalikar and anyone who's ancestors migrated to Goa maybe two centuries ago. Catholics, thanks to the ironies of our Portuguese surnames, can pass off as pucca Goan, though our roots too could easily be traced elsewhere out of the state. There have been persistent digs, on Goanet and elsewhere, about the green-eyed among our politicians being part Portuguese! How many centuries ago did the Saraswats (both Hindu, and those who converted) descend onto Goa, with Parashuram "freeing" the place of Kshatriyas to accomodate them? And, are Chardos and Kshatriyas really ethnically "Goan" or conveniently included as such, because it includes Us? Who does the defining? I don't see the aboriginal Goan -- the Gavada, Kunbli, Velip and Gouli -- taking part in this debate as vociferously, or else we would have had very different defintions of "Goanity". Did man really originate in Goa? And still we allude to a pure Goan race, as if it were some Hitlerite legacy left to us. FN PS: If you suggest that migrants be disenfranchised, then the same should apply to Goan communities out of Goa too, no? -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Vedanta (Was: Anyone has the guts to hold GoaNetters meet in Morjim?)
Bosco writes: > Vedanta stock has taken-off this year, literally. Stock is up almost > 500%. > Desis managing the joint are doing a fantastic job as far as > shareholders are concerned. Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:38:00 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar Fantastic job of what? Digging the Goan earth and transporting it to China, that is all. It doesnt take much brains to do that. Mario observes: The proof of a pudding is in the eating, not the BIG brains of anyone who doesn't know how to make pudding:-)) Here's the score: Vedanta, 500%. BIG brain: 0%. Vedanta wins. BIG brain loses. Case closed:-))
[Goanet] Poetry Book Launch: The Dreaming House by Tanya Mendonsa
Tanya Mendonsa, the Moira (Goa) based poet will be launching her first poetry book "The Dreaming House" on Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 7.00 p.m. at Literati (Gauravaddo, Calangute, Bardez, Goa) You are most cordially invited. --- ----- BOOK COVER: http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Books#5413264528826053554 About The Dreaming House ( Harper Collins ) by Tanya Mendonsa The Dreaming House was conceived of as a journey, as much spiritual as geographical. The first part is called The Voyage Out , and the second , The Country Beyond . The Voyage Out contains poems that are mostly about the journey from childhood to maturity, and my 19 years in Paris; the subjects are mostly people- whether real or imaginary, and wars whether historical or internal. The majority of the poems are unsettling, as I suppose that part of ones life always is. The second part of the book, The Country Beyond focuses on the redeeming qualities of the natural world, and the way it can transform human beings. Nearly all the poems are set in the lush and watery landscape of Goa and, more specifically, the poets village of Moira . Many of the poems refer to actual people in the village, whether alive or dead, as in Miss Havisham of Moira, The Farmer Next Door , The Chatelaine of Moira . Many more are about the beauties of this village set between two rivers, with its fields and hills, forests and mussel beds, and the changing seasons reflected by them. The natives of Moira, tradition has it, are a little crazy. If so, its a lovely place to be crazy in. The whitewashed church, built in 1636, stands high on a plateau that looks down on a view that has remained unchanged for centuries. Unchanged, that is, until now. This is a world that is, literally, hanging by a thread; on the cusp of being destroyed by the combined and greedy efforts of the building lobby in tandem with local officials and politicians. All of the nature poems in The Dreaming House are suffused with the poignancy of intense pleasure on the edge of loss : of archetypal village life and all it contains and means- not only to its inhabitants, but to people who encounter it briefly, as well. Gabriela Mistral, the Chilean poet who won the Nobel prize in 1945, claimed that lyric poetry springs from the wound of love inflicted on us by things. The writer Sudep Chakravarti , speaking of my work to my publisher, said, even if she writes about a rose, the rose will be bleeding. When I came to live in Moira three years ago, I felt, for the first time in my life, that I had come home. I also discovered that my grandmothers sister had owned much of the land around my own house which overlooks the river which came to be a living presence to me. I had written poetry all my life, in fits and starts. But from the first night in my old-new house, like a water source being unblocked, the words flowed onto paper as effortlessly as the sweet air I breathed. A burning need to preserve the beauty around me, which was the source of my wellbeing, was a natural corollary. With a fellow writer in the village, Venita Coelho, and a handful of concerned villagers who had been fighting the same fight for years already, we started a campaign to preserve the village under the aegis of the new Regional Plan for 2021. Our activist group mapped every heritage tree, walk, house, church, temple or monument. We traced the water sources and rivers, defined every green area and gradient, and asked for planned development, no gated communities or apartment buildings, and roads no wider than 5 metres. Venita was the spearhead and did the bulk of the work; I handled communications; not more than half a dozen people worked with us. In the end, we managed to persuade the village panchayat ( which had no knowledge whatsoever of what the Regional Plan meant ) to cooperate with us. However, the rot has set in far too deep Goa is now the most corrupt state in India, and the TCP dept. is in the process of tampering with the plans each village has submitted so that they, and their political bosses, dont miss a slice of the cake that will be snatched away from under their eyes, if these plans are allowed to be ratified. And, of course, they want to suppress any dissenting voices. I want to use any publicity I might get for my book to make as many people as possible aware of our battle to preserve the village. I am not alone in this, but we need as much exposure as we can get, and the media is the best possible tool. If one village in Goa, and what threatens it today, gets enough exposure, this will help all the villages in Goa. As the poet Hopkins said, What would the world be, once bereft Of wet and wildness ? Let them be left, O let them be left, wildness and wet; Long live the weeds and the wildern
[Goanet] Pravasi Bharatiya Divas Convention
PRESS RELEASE Engaging the Diaspora: The Way Forward The 8th edition of the flagship event of the Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs (MOIA), Government of India Pravasi Bharatiya Divas (PBD) Convention would be held at the Vigyan Bhawan, New Delhi from January 7- 9, 2010. The Convention is being organized by MOIA, in partnership with the Government of NCT of Delhi. The Confederation of Indian Industry (CII) would be the institutional partner. The 8th PBD has been structured this time around to provide delegates an opportunity to interact with: 1. Cabinet Ministers from India on matters of interest and concern to them. 2. PIO Ministers/dignitaries from other countries on the expectations and aspirations of the overseas Indian community from the land of their ancestors and how they could work towards strengthening the relationship between India and the country of their residence. 3. Chief Ministers on issues their States need to attend on priority and facilities and incentives available in their States for the overseas Indian community. The convention will have four concurrent sessions on: 1. Returning to 9% Growth : Diaspora Connect 2. Leveraging Knowledge Network : Global INK 3. Thousands of Firefiles : Diaspora Philanthropy 4. Cross Cultural Relations and Diaspora Women PBD-2010 will also see the launching of an annual lecture series under the overarching theme of ‘India and its Diaspora: Everlasting Bonds of Togetherness’. Also on the cards are seminars on ‘Nano-Technology’ and ‘property-related issues’ of NRIs/PIOs and a Golf Tournament, The convention will be inaugurated by the Prime Minister of India on 8th January 2010. The President of India will deliver the valedictory address on 9th January 2010 and would confer Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Awards for 2010. These conventions provide the largest platform to PIOs and NRIs for exchange of views and networking on matters of common interest. Online registration and further details are available on the website www.pbdindia.org. *** Kuwait December 3, 2009 _ Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_4:092009
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
FYI, Ana Maria Goswami is as Goan as a Moidekar can be and her maternal home is a few houses away from mine in Attafondem, Moira. -- \\\ = \\-00 Tony de Sa C u tonyd...@gmail.com \ ~/ M : +91 9975 162 897 --|><| Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 = / | ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
[Goanet] SPORTS: Eslinda Alemao Memorial 7-a-side Football Tournament
"ESLINDA ALEMAO MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT" Eslinda Alemao Memorial 7-a-side Football Tournament KGAs 1st Edition of 7-a-Side Football Tournament will be held on Friday, December 11, 2009 at Shuwaikh Grounds near Al-Sabah Hospital (MOH) under KIFF affiliation will commence at 7.00 a.m. Twelve teams are participating in the Eslinda Alemao Memorial tournament which is sponsored by Canon, Kitco, Coca-Cola, Al-Zahem & Malhotra, Bhasin, Lipton Tea, Al-Assriya Printing Press, Fitwell Tailors, Mughal Mahal, and Global Express Worldwide. All football lovers are invited to witness the grand event with compere Merwyn Pereira to keep you in the mood and lots of prizes and surprises awaits. KIFF Referees will be officiating the matches. The chief guest will be Ms. Sharon Alemao D'Costa and the guest of honour, Dr. Pravin Dangla and special guest Tome Gracias, Sales Manager - Canon, who have kindly consented to grace the event. Churchill Brothers-sponsored Kuwait Goan Association (KGA) is one of the formidable teams affiliated with Kuwait Indian Football Federation under the presidentship of Salvador Dias from Curtorim. The organisers thank in advance for your cooperation and support to KGA. Kuwait Goan Association Managing Committee Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter presented by goa-world.com team http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans
[Goanet] UK tightens visa rules for Indian IT professionals
UK tightens visa rules for Indian IT professionals PTI 9 December 2009, 04:51pm IST LONDON: Britain has tightened immigration rules from January for Indian IT professionals seeking to move to the UK under inter-company transfers. >From next year, workers in this category will need to have 12 months >experience instead of six months as at present with their employer before they can be transferred to the UK, official sources said. The immigration category will be closed as a route to permanent settlement in the UK. This means that IT professionals who come to the UK under inter-company transfer will not be allowed to settle here permanently even after the mandatory stay of five years. Immigration officials also denied reports that the Tier 2 (Intra company transfer) category of the points-based system was providing a loophole for Indian IT companies to bring foreign workers into the UK. Under an intra-company transfer, an employer can fill vacancies in its UK operations by bringing across some of its existing foreign-based staff. It has been claimed that this enables jobs in the IT and other sectors to be taken by migrants who are paid less than resident workers. The Home Office, however, said that this was not true. "Workers coming to the UK in the Tier 2 (Intra company transfer) category must be paid the going rate", it said. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/indians-abroad/UK-tightens-visa-rules-for-Indian-IT-professionals/articleshow/5319024.cms
[Goanet] Mega Konkani Musical Show
Mega Konkani Musical Show" Tiatr Academy Goa in collaboration with Ravindra Bhavan Margao will celebrate Pai Tiatrist Joao Agostinho Fernndess 138th Birth Anniversary on 14th December, 2009 at Ravindra Bhavan Margao. On this occasion a Mega Konkani Musical Show will be staged in which Konkani songs and comedy skits will be presented by popular artistes of Tiatr stage. Mega Konkani Musical Show will commence at 3.30 p.m at the Pai Tiatrist Joao Agostinho Fernandes Auditorium in which practically all the top artistes of Tiatr stage will participate. The comedians - Domnick & Luis Bachan, Agostinho & Selvy, Ambe & Janet, Ben Evangelisto, Sally & Joana ani John DSilva & Nato will entertain the people with comedy skits while singers Wilmix, Sharon, Felcy, Francis de Tuem, Jr. Rod, Salvador, Nafisa, Lawrie Travasso, Rosie Alvares, Annie Quadros, Cajetan de Curtorim, Peter, Roshan, Marcus Vaz, Xavier Gomes, Mil-Mel-Nel, C. DSilva, Ave, Tony, Menino Mario, Osvy Viegas, Anthony San, Sucorro de Santa Cruz, Aniceto & Ignatious will present variety of Konkani songs solos, duets, trios, etc. The music is provided by Norman. Mr. Digamber Kamat, Chief Minister of Goa will be the Chief Guest on the occasion and will present Life Time Contribution Awards instated by Tiatr Academy of Goa to 13 artistes of yester years who have contributed selflessly to the cause of Konkani Tiatr. The artistes to be felicitated are: Shalini, Ophelia, Anthonette, Titta Preto, Lorna, Ciriaco Dias, Caiti, Luciano Dias, Anita, Clara, Filipe de Sanvordem, Filomena Braz and Comedian Dias. Tiatr Academy of Goa invites all tiatr lovers to attend the Mega Konkani Musical Show the entrance for which is free. Tomazinho Cardozo President - TAG
REPORT: Goa Chitra Hosts �EMERGING CONCERNS�
Goa Chitra Hosts EMERGING CONCERNS A dialogue between Diaspora youth and local Youth about the past present and future of Goa Photos at: http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Events#5413212554323573042 http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Events#5413212558857016546 http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Events#5413212564055949378 http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Events#5413212575323560498 The Government of Goa, department of NRI affairs headed by Shri Eduardo Faleiro, the commissioner for NRI affairs, has formulated a KNOW GOA PROGRAMME(KGP) for the benefit of youth of Goan origin who are not Indian nationals and had no opportunity to discover Goa and India, its glorious past, existing present and promising future. Many Goans left Goa for better prospects. Three generations later, this initiative allows Diaspora youth to travel to Goa to begin a connection with their roots. The 2nd KNOW Goa PROGRAMME 2009 has attracted participation of 12 youth consisting of students and young professionals between the age group of 18 to 28 and hailing from Canada, Mozambique and UK. This KGP is intended to provide the participants a unique opportunity to share their views, experiences and expectations. As part of the programme to expose these youth to the grassroots governance and cultural heritage, the department of NRI Affairs, Govt. of Goa selected the Goa Chitra Museum, Benaulim as the ideal place for the Diaspora youth to know the Goan Ancestral Art and Culture which was held on the 6th of December between 3.30 to 5.30 pm. The youth were taken on a personal tour of the Goa Chitra Museum by the curator of the museum Mr. Victor Hugo Gomes who gave these youth an insight to the rich cultural ancestry that Goans should feel proud of; setting stage for the forum that would allow these Youth to engage in a dialogue with local youth on questions related to the past, present and future of Goa. Selected from amongst a motivated group of Goan youth, a panel consisting of young professionals who have been active in various fields like art and culture, education, social concerns, environmental concern and college representatives got into a dialogue with these Diaspora youth. The welcome address given by Mrs. Aldina Gomes, director of the Goa Chitra museum. To gain perspective with these complex and sensitive themes, Dr. Savia Viegas and Dr. Manoj Borkar were invited to chair the forum. Dr Savia Viegas, reputed writer, artist and historian welcomed the audience and in particular the Diaspora youth. While giving an overview about the topic for discussion Dr. Viegas empathized, saying born without choice in a land far away from their own, dealing with a crisis to identify with the land of their forefathers and the land of their birth. Being neither here nor there, yet having the privilege to belong to both. She further emphasized the importance of belonging and knowing ones roots and heritage and hoped that todays youth forum which had representatives from Goa to share their ideas, their concerns and their efforts and passion with their home will awaken a sense of pride and connection for the Diaspora youth. Dr. Manoj Borkar, associate professor and head of the zoology department at Carmel College, state board representative of the biodiversity club of Goa and active member in the field of research, further welcomed the guest urging them to connect to their motherland, not as a visit to their ailing grandmother who normally are satisfied with photographic exploration, instead getting to understand the heartbeat of the land. An emotional Dr. Borkar, lamented about the state of Goa facing a crisis and the need of the hour would be to find ways that Goans across the world come together to win this battle. The youth representatives comprised of Ms. Sobita Mauzo Kirtani, Mr. Clinton Vaz, Mr. Prajal Sharkdahndhe and Mr. Nirmal Kulkarni; Chosen so as to represent the constant struggle of the many who work tirelessly to make Goa a place for all to be proud of while breaking the myth that Goa is just the sand and beaches that are unfortunately portrayed to the rest of the world. The first to address the audience was Sobita Mauzo Kirtani, lecturer and involved with the asserting Konkani as a state language, spoke about the culture that is going through a transition adopting a western outlook while forgoing their own, especially with the issues addressing the konkanni language. The importance a language has to its cultural ethos and the need to preserve it is therefore of utmost importance. Clinton Vaz a pioneer in the work of garbage disposal which has unfortunately shown its ugly face in the Goan surrounding spoke of the challenges Goa face in disposing its own garbage. While giving credits to our own way of living and recycling being in our blood, he spoke of the urgent need especially amongst the youth to start recycling and
Re: [Goanet] Could you please get this onto Goanet? Thanks
Thanks Frederick. Herman, now that we're in touch, could you please get this posted onto Goanet? I've also copied it to the Goanet address. Best wishes, Luis __ Renowned soprano Patricia Rozario will be in Goa this month to follow through with her training of the students (ages 15-30) she auditioned in August. There will be an intensive, 3-day workshop from 27-29 Dec, which would cover singing technique, and a basic guide to pronouncing French, German and Italian. Each singer would need to bring 3 pieces to work on, in various languages. The workshop will focus also on technique, song/opera interpretation and phrasing and language, as well as posture and breathing. Limited places available. To enrol or for further details, please email diasfl...@yahoo.com or call 9011051950.
[Goanet] Garbage A Cause Of Concern
Garbage A Cause Of Concern The article, Do Goans Grow Garbage, by environmentalist and journalist Mr. Hartman De Souza on Herald, 9th Dec'09, should be ringing alarm bells in each and every Goan, living in Goa and outside Goa. He has bluntly pointed out facts that most of us have been aware of, but have done nothing or very little to change the present situation, instead we have contributed a great deal to the deteriorating conditions in a colossal way by our lack of basic civic sense, our apathy towards our environment and ecology and our inability to collectively work for the good of our society, always waiting for somebody else to do it for us. Any road we travel, in Goa, we are always treated with the scenes of garbage and plastic waste, in the form of bottles, bags and containers spread all over the place. Is this suppose to happen in a place which boasts of over 80% literacy ? Will we Goans be ever educated enough in terms of environmental and ecological protection ? Mr. De Souza, has specifically mentioned the mountainous unhygienic dumps that lie in very close proximity of schools, that have housed progenies of the powerful and affluent families of Goa, which unfortunately, have failed to do anything about these monstrous dumps in the vicinity of those schools, which are a realistic threat to the tender lives of their children and other human lives around. The loss of some of our water bodies and the other surviving wells, springs, streams, ponds and rivulets that are contaminated and polluted due to rampant mining, mega housing, land filling and spewing over of garbage and sewage, is in no way exaggerated, and if we do not act now the catastrophe that awaits is colossal, and that's a reality. We are already having crisis with the inadequate supply of water and one can imagine the precarious situation we'll be in, if the few remaining life lines of water are polluted and contaminated due to the above. The garbage spewed around all over Goa is a point of focus and debate among Goans at the moment, but our Politicians and bureaucrats are least interested in solving this extremely important issue, that have deadly ramifications. Instead of solving this major issue, our Politicians are trying to rule the roost and use the various agencies that are willing to solve this problem, to promote their progenies and cronies to make money, lots of it and despite reams being written on this mismanagement, so thick skinned have they become, that it's effect and impact has been zilch, null and void. It is up to us to revamp our civic sense and enact our responsibilities towards our environment and our ecology. Let us all pledge today to work collectively for the good of our society and carry this forward and force our elected representatives and authorities to act diligently and effectively for the welfare of Goa and Goans and make Goa clean and environmental friendly. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Men married to smart women live longer - Times Online
Men Married to Smart Women Live Longer! More here... Con http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6872519.ece
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
Tony, Please define "migrant". Goa's longest-serving post-1961 chief minister comes from a family that prides its own Rajput roots! Would we call someone a half-ghanti because his mother hails from minor royalty in Karnataka, or does our class bias show badly when we abuse such appelations? If you do a closer check of many MLAs, you'll find that their surnames come from places outside the Goa borders (never mind that the 'kar' suffix sounds sufficiently 'Goan'). Please tell me how your would treat an Amshekar or a Dhavalikar and anyone who's ancestors migrated to Goa maybe two centuries ago. Catholics, thanks to the ironies of our Portuguese surnames, can pass off as pucca Goan, though our roots too could easily be traced elsewhere out of the state. There have been persistent digs, on Goanet and elsewhere, about the green-eyed among our politicians being part Portuguese! How many centuries ago did the Saraswats (both Hindu, and those who converted) descend onto Goa, with Parashuram "freeing" the place of Kshatriyas to accomodate them? And, are Chardos and Kshatriyas really ethnically "Goan" or conveniently included as such, because it includes Us? Who does the defining? I don't see the aboriginal Goan -- the Gavada, Kunbli, Velip and Gouli -- taking part in this debate as vociferously, or else we would have had very different defintions of "Goanity". Did man really originate in Goa? And still we allude to a pure Goan race, as if it were some Hitlerite legacy left to us. FN PS: If you suggest that migrants be disenfranchised, then the same should apply to Goan communities out of Goa too, no? 2009/12/9 Tony de Sa : > Comment: The day is not far off when you will see a big fish migrant > politician in Goa ;-) > > Note: At the panchayat level, there have been migrant panchas e.g. in Penha > de Franca -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fredericknoronha Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
Re: [Goanet] Vedanta (Was: Anyone has the guts to hold GoaNetters meet in Morjim?)
As I said it, greenbacks know no ethnicity! FN 2009/12/9 Samir Kelekar : > Bosco writes: >>S. Vedanta stock has taken-off this year, literally. Stock is up almost 500%. >>Desis >>managing the joint are doing a fantastic job as far as shareholders are >>concerned. > > Fantastic job of what ? Digging the Goan earth and transporting it to China, > that is all. > It doesnt take much brains to do that.
[Goanet] Mother's death affected Hitler, claims book
Extract: German dictator Adolf Hitler's hatred for Jews may have stemmed from his belief that his mother was poisoned to death by a Jewish doctor, a new book has claimed. In his book titled *November 9: How World War One Led To The Holocaust,*author Joachim Riecker claims that the death of Hitler's mother Klara, who was diagnosed with breast cancer, left an indelible mark on the then 18-year-old Adolf. Klara's doctor, Eduard Bloch, had administered iodoform on her which was then the standard treatment for breast cancer, Ha'aretz reported. She died from the treatment in 1907 at a young age of 47. "Hitler never forgave the Jewish doctor," Riecker told *The Telegraph.* "In conversations with aides such as Josef Goebbels, Hitler referred to the Jews as being like TB and himself as a 'healer' who had to stamp it, and consequently them, out," Riecker noted. http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/books/Mother-s-death-affected-Hitler-claims-book/Article1-484334.aspx
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