[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Bad or good... the most influential of the decade (Dr Oscar Rebello, Goan Observer)
Bad or good... the most influential BY DR OSCAR REBELLO docosca...@rediffmail.com I was asked by the Goan Observer to put up my personal choices of the ten most influential set of people who influenced the decade. Some did so positively, some did so negatively, and some were there with a huge potential but stumbled on the way and fell. Of course, the list contains all my personal biases, which hopefully every human being can have. If 2000-2009 was the 'decadus horribilis' for Goa, we can only hope and pray that the next will be a 'Decadus Mirabbilis', but if wishes were horses, pigs would fly. MANOHAR PARRIKAR: Easily the most influential person of the decade. He divided Goa into two poles, those who loathed him passionately due to his ideology and arrogance and those who loved him blindly for his integrity and administrative brilliance. Pity there weren't enough folks to dissect him in a neutral profile, and even sadder that he chose NOT to listen to his well-meaning critics. At the end of the day, his own worst enemy. SANDESH PRABHUDESAI: As editor of Sunaparant, he blazed a trail for Konkani and issues, but it's in his avatar as editor-in-chief of Prudent Media that he has brilliantly shone. Using the powerful image of TV, he has exposed many a scandal and taken tough positions on burning issues regarding Goa. As they say, you can take an editor out of an activist, but you can never taken an activist out of an editor. SABINA MARTINS, AUDA VIEGAS, ALBERTINA ALMEIDA, PRAMOD SALGAOCAR: Women-power with maximum impact. To get casino owners, rapists, molesters and all other epithets men are usually conferred with to quaver in their pants is no mean task. Sometimes perceived as anti-men, their visible service to womankind in Goa is truly phenomenal. FR MAVERICK FERNANDES: The Church's visible symbol of Lamb and Lion. The man who put the principles of social justice and peace -- the bedrock of Christian teaching -- into actual practice. You may disagree with his anti-capitalist ideology, but you can never deny his single-minded devotion to galvanising, mobilising and encouraging the poor of the State to find their voice, irrespective of the community they belong to. CLAUDE ALVARES: His detractors call him 'Fraud' Alvares. For me, he is most emphatically 'God' Alvares. The original Big Daddy of environment issues in Goa before Al Gore and Obama even knew to pronounce 'climate change'. His yeoman work and, especially over the last decade, his humongous legal battles, is the stuff legends are made of. And oh yes, by the way, he is a Mangalorean (a 'bhailo'). DR NANDKUMAR KAMAT: Never has Goa produced such a dazzling luminary of knowledge, erudition and scientific brilliance as him. Eccentric and unapproachable at most times, his painstaking research into all aspects of Goan life -- past, present and future -- is more valuable than the Kohinoor for us. MATANHY SALDANHA: Indefatigable, tenacious, pugnacious. The old war horse, true to his ideals, has articulated thousands of Goan issues with a singular passion. Can be obstinate at times and does miss the wood for the trees in a post-liberalised, youthful era of politics. VISHWAJIT RANE: The de facto lambi race ka ghoda. Doesn't have the regal aloofness of his illustrious father. Mingles with the hoi polloi easily but also in the same way does not share his father's early innings' reputation as CM and vision for Goa. Sadly believes that the colour of money wins elections -- not integrity, ideology or innovation. BABUSH MONSERRATE: The bad boy of Goan politics. Steam rolls past any opposition or law books and then bankrolls huge political battles. His constituency worship shim for the generous benevolence and monetary goodies he bestows on them. But at what cost? The cost of Goa itself! THE PEOPLE OF SALELI, KUNDAIM AND KERI: Way back before agitations against RP2011, SEZ, mega projects and illegal mining became the flavour of the decade and a toast of the nation, it was these humble villagers who rose in revolt against the abuse of authority and power and who blazed the path for us to achieve -- maybe a not so perfect but -- greener and saner tomorrow. SATURDAY NIGHT CLUB OF MARGAO: Comprising of stalwarts like Datta Naik, Dr Francisco Colaco, Shridhar Kamat, Prashant Naik and many others. This is the nerve centre in the forefront in the battle to keep Goa secular and free from communal strife. These guys have put their lives and reputations on the line in this battle. What one wishes, in the present circumstances, is for them to pressure their friendly neighbourhood MLA -- who incidentally happens to be the Chief Minister -- to wake up and smell the coffee with the disintegration and moral decay of Goa continuing on his watch. [First published in the Goan Observer, Panjim Jan 2-8, 2010]
[Goanet-News] NEWS: Gulf NRIs air their problems, suggestions at diaspora meet
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/gulf-nris-air-their-problems-suggestions-at-diaspora-meet_100301366.html Gulf NRIs air their problems, suggestions at diaspora meet January 9th, 2010 - 7:41 pm ICT by IANS Tell a Friend - Shashi Tharoor New Delhi, Jan 9 (IANS) Taking overseas Indians into consideration in the government’s divestment process and creating Islamic-finance friendly projects to attract Gulf investments were among the various suggestions overseas Indians from the Gulf made to the government Friday. At a session on “Indians and the Gulf: Gulf Session” held on the third and concluding day of the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas (PBD) 2010, the annual conclave of the Indian diaspora here, prominent members of the Indian community in the region voiced their problems and suggestions in the presence of three ministers - Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs Vayalar Ravi, Minister of State for External Affairs Shashi Tharoor and Minister of State for Railways E. Ahamed. United Arab Emirates (UAE) based EMKE Group’s managing director Yusuff Ali M.A. set the tone by suggesting that the government hold the next edition of mini-PBD - the smaller version of PBD that is held abroad every year - in the Gulf. “Let the government decide on the venue and we Indians in the Gulf will fully help in its organisation,” he said. He also requested the government to take overseas Indians into consideration in the government’s divestment process. Chairman and managing director of Qatar’s Behzad Group of Companies C.K. Menon said that Gulf nations were sitting on huge investible funds and were looking to put this money in emerging economies. “But they want to invest this money in projects that are Sharia-friendly,” Menon said. “Many countries in the West have already modified their financial systems in such a way that these are Sharia-friendly. In India too, such a system needs to be created,” he added. Managing director of Oman’s Galfar Engineering and Contracting Mohamed Ali dwelt on the issue of illegal Indian workers in the Gulf and their plight. “They land up there through illegal recruiting agents in India and then find that were not getting what they had gone there for. So, they illegally seek work in some other companies and end up getting virtually enslaved,” Ali said. “We need to have a system from the Indian end that will require every worker going abroad to report to the Indian missions there,” he said. Director of the UAE’s ETA Ascon Star Group Syed M. Salahuddin sought the government’s help in setting up better schools for Indian students in the Gulf. “Out there education is nothing but a business. We need to have schools that charge low fees and impart good education. Maybe the government can help create a fund from which salaries of teachers can be paid,” he suggested. President of Saudi Arabia’s Pravasi Rehabilitation Centre K.M. Naushad requested the government to look into the possibility of a bilateral pact with the Saudi government that covered all aspects of labour so that problems of Indian labourers are mitigated. “Also, attestation of employment contracts by Indian missions must be made mandatory,” he added. Earlier, addressing the gathering, Ahamed said that India should formulate its foreign policy with the Gulf countries keeping the Indians there in mind. On his part, Tharoor said that India would not take Gulf countries for granted. “Precisely because we have no problems in our ties with the Gulf, we should not let it slip into complacency,” he said. Significantly, of the six concurrent sessions held Friday, only the Gulf session was region-specific, the others being thematic. There are five million expatriate Indians living in six Gulf nations.
[Goanet] Shashi Tharoor
SHASHI THAROOR By: Bennet Paes It seems a slight departure, and a genuine one at that, from Nehru’s policies on world stage, create a hue and cry in Indian media.. Shashi Tharoor may be in Congress party and a Minister in its government, but talking on an international forum, or rather commenting on another speaker’s views honestly, is far from being disrespectful to the party. Vallabhai Patel too disagreed with Nehru on several issues, but they did stick together in the same party until the end. The PM and the Gandhi’s should better remember. And what surprises me most is that the media, in their blind adulation of a Nehru, or of a Tendulkar, get irked whenever a word falls out of line of their perception. Instead, they should take a tip from Shashi Tharoor who, having been second in rank at the U.N. and having missed the top spot by a hair’s breath, only mirrored an aspect of India’s foreign policy then, as seen through the eyes of the world at large. A case in point is the so-called liberation of Goa. He was bold enough to say that, and we need politicians like him in our government – not henchmen. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Need feedback --- meeting the CM to ask for concessions for small IT companies
A couple of us --- all IT enterprenuers mostly from Goa ( I am the only one based in Bangalore) are planning to meet the Goa CM asking for tax breaks in Goa for small IT software development companies (less than Rs. 10 crores annual revenue). I need feedback from this group as to what people think of this. I dont want cribs later saying that you are buddy to the CM etc. The Goan IT entreprenuers feel that they are having a tough time and tax sops would help a bit. I think the request is a good endeavour and worth asking for. Some of the saved money could be used to create jobs in Goa also. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Shashi Tharoor
Shashi Tharoor is stupid to join the Congress party. He doesnt have the guts to hold on to his views because his perks comes from the congress. He is used to a lavish lifestyle flying all the time, and staying in 5 star comfort all paid for through tax payer's money. The congress is well-known to be a party where only yes-men ship is required, so what is the big deal? What new are we talking about here? regards, Samir
[Goanet] Goa's elitist cabaret
Everyone needs to read 'Civil society is an elite project' by Dunu Roy on the website infochageindia.org which is reproduced in Herald today. That will explain GBA's pathetic state and the glorification of the elitist contribution to Save Goa. The thousands of villagers who marched to Azad Maidan were months later accused of being anarchists by the very same mascot of the elitist forces of Save Goa. Rajan Parrikar has in fact contributed nothing great to Goa. He was not on the Infotech Development Corporation pushing the development of IT Park in Socorro. Neither was this Rajan the convenor of GBA, he was just a photographer who happened to be around at the wrong time and the wrong place. He was there to take some shots of the Jt. Convenor (South) of GBA arguing on behalf of the Chief Minister of Goa with the GBA delegation led by then convenor Oscar at Mahalaximi Residence in Altinho, Panaji when they went to demand for the withdrawal of clearances to Aldeia de Goa. That was loyalty to GBA isn't it? Now as reported in herald today, the former chairperson of the Task Force and advisor to CM Mr. Edgar Ribeiro claims that the Village Plans first need to be sent to the District Planning Committees. He was the guru of those in GBA abusing others to the extent of going physical insisting that spatial planning was not the mandate of Village Panchayats. The guru of planning has forgotten the day when he told several of us to either be content with what we are getting or get nothing as that's how the government works. Just 12 months later Infotech becomes corrupt and Regional Plan process becomes illegal. God save our Goa for the elite in coma. The aam janta like us are the fools to watch this cabaret show. -soter
[Goanet] Goanet] Goa's elitist cabaret
Soter: It doesnt suit you only talking negative. If GBA is screwed up, what happened to GPA ? What prevented you from leading a better GPA to solve the problems that GBA couldnt? Instead, you are forever wasting your time in attacking GBA. What, people arent coming forward to support you? What is the exact problem ? What I did for Infotech corporation is known to all. Thanks to my initiative which was later taken up by others, the corrupt Infotech park was stopped. In fact, I am still paying the price for it as Narvekar has come after me using the Assembly Breach of privilege. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Miners Celebrating Environment Week
Miners Celebrating Environment Week Reference to the article Mining companies urged to protect environment Herald dated 10th Jan'10, To me it sounds like asking the wolfs to protect the hen house, Timblo Minerals Pvt Ltd at Cavrem Mines celebrating Environment Week, is this absurdity or audacity at it's best ? Rapists celebrating women day !! Mining and protecting environment and ecology, isn't that plain and simple oxymoron. Or are we all missing something vital ? Mr. Panigrahi a central government official along with people involved in destroying and devastating our ecology and our environment were invited to celebrate environment week by a leading miner, were any of the environmental activists invited ? Environment is the concern of the whole wide world and our miners want to add insult to injury by making a show of it all. The people who are fighting for the preservation of our ecology and our environment are more often than not, terrorized by the police and are even threatened with encounter deaths, who are, become mere tools bought by the miners lock, stock and barrel, to do their unholy will. Our CM, the minister for mines, had said that there would be a comprehensive mining policy before the end of the year, which has failed to surface, like most of his other promises. Some time back he himself had said that strict action would be taken against illegal mining, has any one seen any action at all ? All our present politicians are hand in glove with the miners, with just an occasional whimper, for the sake of Aam Aadmi. While miners are celebrating environment week, devil in hell must be celebrating Christmas and Ravan must be celebrating Ram Lila ! What a scene, times have certainly changed ! Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Grumble... no telephone directory yet!
When I just tried searching for a phone number in Goa: Goa Telecom - Online Telephone Directory Goa Telecom District (Directory Enquiry) Last Updated on - 01/01/2010. Search By :: Name Address Telephone Number. Search By Name. Select Area ... 210.212.176.226/namesearch.php?selssa=GOA Could not connect to MySQL database. Too many connections FOR: http://210.212.176.226/namesearch.php?selssa=GOA -- Frederick Noronha Columnist :: journalism editing :: alt.publishing, photography :: blogging
[Goanet] MARG as I see it
Since Anil Desai has raised the issue of MARG, here are my observations. I am in no way officially connected with MARG, and this is a third party observation no way to be construed as MARG's view. MARG happens to be run by my father Gurunath Kelekar. MARG was given Rs. 20 lakhs by the Govt of Goa for the year 2009 for educating people on road safety. MARG had conferences and other educational programs in nearly every taluka of Goa the year round. I havent been closely following MARG so I dont know of all the activities conducted, but I attended a premier of a feature film commissioned by MARG called Race which was held in November. The movie was produced by Dnyanesh Moghe, an acclaimed film producer and was superb. It was directed towards the youth who are crazy after bikes and doing racing. It was a konkani colour film, and one that would appeal to today's youth like anything. The plan was to show this film in every school and college in Goa. MARG is run by a few 80+ people, mostly freedom fighters. They take no money for themselves from MARG funds, as far as I know. My father especially lives like a sage; he has no luxurious habits and hardly spends anything and lives completely frugally. As his son, I have no special access to anything. Every paisa that MARG gets is probably tallied at the end of the day on paper as to where it is spent and I am sure this account is available to anyone who desires it. I know this from how my parents used to keep their accounts on a day-to-day basis all their lives. They were in fact very hard on themselves, sometimes not eating if the accounts did not match at the end of the day. One could argue whether it is worthwhile even engaging with today's govt. My father is an independent person and has his own views on that. He cannot stand youth of Goa dying on the streets like fishes. Sure, the CM gets a good amount of mileage from MARG, but I can say that at least this money spent by the govt. is well spent. I am one of the biggest critics of MARG. One question that may arise is --- have the deaths due to accidents in Goa reduced ? The answer is --- this year the deaths reduced but the reduction to be fair was marginal. Obviously, my father is not a road traffic professional and does what he does by instinct. This year the govt. has commissioned a Delhi based organization called Central Road Research Organization to give recommendations on the subject to the Goan govt. But one thing I can tell that my father works from day to night like a possesed guy, and though above 80 he will put thirty year olds to shame with his energy levels. Also, any money that MARG has got from the govt. has been gotten on MARG's own terms and without paying a single paisa of bribe. My father cannot go on forever. He doesnt see any one from the youth willing to shoulder the responsibility as well as being capable. Perhaps that is why the CM has been appointed Chairman of MARG from this year while my father is Managing Trustee. For more details, please contact my father at m...@sancharnet.in regards, Samir
[Goanet] Soth Uloi
Dear Sirs, I chanced upon some articles on konkani. My father's name is Santan J. Fernandes who was editor of the weekly Soth Uloi. I would like to know more on this archive. There is nothing much information I can obtain from the Govt. site Can you guide me on this matter. Thanks and regard Anthony Registrar of Newspapers for India Home | Title Status | Registration Status | Title Search | Verified | Registered | Forms | Contact Us | हिन्दी Title Search String :-SOT Registrar of Newspapers for India Home | Title Status | Registration Status | Title Search | Verified | Registered | Forms | Contact Us | हिन्दी Title Search String :-SOTH ULOI reg. 6010 TitleH ULOI Title The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Re. Proud to be a Goan, I am an Indian first
Ref below post surely we understand that Goan Identity as evolved as all other Identities in India or rest of the World. But surely we appreciate: (1) All these identities today have basic parameters that shape its identity e.g. Language, period of ethnicity that shapes a way of life etc (2) All these identities are takiing measures to preserve the basic parameters; so why should it be different for Goan Identity? Message: 4 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:52:16 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re. Proud to be a Goan, I am an Indian first Message-ID: 11a806d21001100422h116d05d1w59ec83f321132...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/1/10 Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com Of course Sachin will can be a proud Maharashtrian in the forseeable future but can we be proud Goans in the near future; as by then our identity might not exist!! The Goan identity is keeping on evolving and changing. If you ask someone from pre-1961 Goa, he might not consider today's Goa to be Goan enough! I wonder what pre-1510 Goans thought of the change in identity that took place then. Ditto for the pre-Parashuram Goans! FN -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Talking Photos: House of Chandor
House of Chandor http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4256406833/sizes/l/ House length (part) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4256404967/sizes/l/ at the door/entrance http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4257167946/sizes/l/ Luis de Menezes Braganza http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2954382806/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Tribute to Dr.Bikram Dasgupta
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[Goanet] Proud to be a living Human Being rather than a Goan or any other name
Those days when one would say I am a Goan , it was a matter of pride very peaceful loving people, calm and quiet , no issues with security, though crab mentality till today it had its charm yet we were proud of being Goans Goenkars be it Portuguese influence culture or whatever . What is so special about Goa these days nothing , watch NDTV news , read about rapes, murders, defilements, molestations, drugs, land being sold in plenty to no one knows whom, corruption at it’s peak , unemployment etc. Goa has nothing special to offer in today’s tourism age, I would go to kerela,Andaman and Nicobar Island , hill stations , Pondicherry, etc, and be safe with peace of mind . Today I would personally wonder why should I be proud of being a Goan what have I done to be proud just because I was born or was I privileged to be born in Goa ? I have read so many mails , still read them today , heard songs about being Goan is a pride and so forth, there is a big difference when you think it is a pride compared to doing something loud in Goa for Goans and others. I would be proud to be a Goan if I could do the following less of that I am just a ordinary human being and an Indian National := 1.Protecting the interests and security of tourists who come down to enjoy and are raped by Politicians. 2.Selling land to outsiders with the help of Politicians and doing away with these people strongly by using strongest means. 3.Security to every person be it Goan/Non-Goan , tourists etc. 4.Creating awareness amongst people on how they should be more vigilant in voting the same politicians over and over again and then cry over it . 5.Making use of the youth for good causes in Goa , how to tackle, corruption, unemployment,be vigilant in today’s insecured Goa. 6.How to dress down Police force who are corrupt, Goa immigration office who have been protecting those overstaying in Goa and getting milked and milking others too and hence we have many illegal visitiors and only when some tragic lightening strikes Goa then they get up. 7.Politicians who have amassed wealth , time for them to retire and pave way for more honest and dedicated Ministers. 8.Do away with those who tend to instigate communal disharmony in the name of Religion, caste , creed, race and have failed in Margao. 9.Be vigilant on Muscle and Money power and fight against it's misuse unitedly . And the list can go on and on , now if Goans can get together and express solidarity and unity in tackling these and beyond these burning issues , I would say hats off to Goans and that is what is being a Proud Goan who can Protect the Goan motherland from every atrocity of every kind, in every way and die for it . Request , let’s do something and stop shouting loudly that we are Proud without even doing something constructive in saving Goa . Bonefacio
[Goanet] It pays to learn Konkani
A Goan farmer walking through his field notices a foreigner drinking water from the pond, with his hand. The Goan shouts, 'Arre baba, tem udik pienaka. Tantun gorvan ani dukor agtat!', which means, 'Don't drink the water, the cows and the pigs shit in it!' The man shouts back, 'I'm British, I don't understand your gibberish. Speak English, you idiotl!' The Goan shouts back in English, 'Use two hands, you'll get more!' ==
Re: [Goanet] Need feedback --- meeting the CM to ask for concessionsfor small IT companies
Tell the CM that these small IT companies can absorb most of the youth who are loitering jobless and/or hunting for jobs elsewhere. That these small IT companies can replace small mines in times to come with the same returns plus save Goa's environment, forests and wild life in the bargain so that these wild animals do not have to roam into the villages. That this is the road map for the future. But having done that, you expect the right answer, namely I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THESE MATTERS Then he will put you on to some donkeys in the labyrinth of the bureaucracy and that will be that. BTW if you are able to talk percentages with him, then things might be different because Digu-bab might not want to mess up with percentages but the pie has been divided and he cannot do anything about it. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS: This has happened before even with IIT CMs about setting up modern metallurgical unit or manufacturing engine blocks absorbing Goa's produce of pig-iron PPS: Goa's Need of the HourWhat's Zat??? ... IT industries replacing mines? - Original Message - From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: [Goanet] Need feedback --- meeting the CM to ask for concessionsfor small IT companies A couple of us --- all IT enterprenuers mostly from Goa ( I am the only one based in Bangalore) are planning to meet the Goa CM asking for tax breaks in Goa for small IT software development companies (less than Rs. 10 crores annual revenue). I need feedback from this group as to what people think of this. I dont want cribs later saying that you are buddy to the CM etc. The Goan IT entreprenuers feel that they are having a tough time and tax sops would help a bit. I think the request is a good endeavour and worth asking for. Some of the saved money could be used to create jobs in Goa also. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Police launch massive drug raid, arrest six - Herald 11.1.2010
We were so happy to see the above headlines in the newspapers today that we decided to communicate our happiness to the man concerned thro' the SMS service on his cell phone [9850990326] thus: Bosco George, Sir, headlines like these Quote Police launch massive drug raid, arrest six Unquote makes us feel happy. Goasuraj commends you for this much needed and long awaited action despite negative utterances by our esteemed Home Minister. Sincerely, floriano lobo Gen Sec Goa Su-Raj Party. And we received a spontaneous response: Thanx alot Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS: And who says the Police is lethargic in doing their duties??? PPS: Goa's Need of the Hour..What's Zat?? Nil political interference with the police???
[Goanet] Are NRG's the problem in Goa?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:19:41 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com Let us be very clear about it. Ghantis havent discarded their Indian citizenships, unlike some holier than though individuals on this forum. They ought to, and do have more rights than American citizens. Most important they can participate in the political process, and vote! Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:37:17 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com Those who have opportunistically taken OCI (overseas citizenship of India --- and btw this is not dual citizenship, the constitution of India does not permit dual citizenship) --- just as they opportunistically discarded Indian citizenship --- be careful. Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:10:54 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com So, you are one more who have discarded your identity/citizenship in preferenec to greenbacks ? You dont deserve any political rights in Goa, and hence you would not have any. It is as plain and simple as that! Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:03:58 -0500 From: celinap celi...@mail.uri.edu The question is what is to be done now. Mario responds: Celina, You are absolutely right, but apparently to some, the problem in Goa is not the unholy alliance between corrupt politicians and business interests, foreign drug dealers, pimps and prostitutes, but NRGs. We now have the comical spectacle of a fiery revolution not against the corruption in Goa but against those scroundrels amongst us Goans who have chosen to be non-Indian Goans:-)) The primary target is Rajan Parrikar, probably because Rajan has actually walked the talk and stuck his neck out and confronted some of the powers that be in Goa: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-January/187993.html It may come as a shock to all the British, Canadian, American, Australian and Swedish Goans, especially those who still maintain the sentimental pretense that they are Goans first, that you are all seen by some as interlopers in Goa and scoundrels for abandoning Goa. The irony of all this is too rich for me, who is no less proud of my Goan-Bhayya ancestry, but am now a proud American first. Pardon me for being less Goan than those who think they are more-Goan-than-thou and take themselves so seriously. Lighten up, folks. LOL! BTW, did India really renege on some promise to preserve this mythical Goan identity I keep hearing about? Didn't India give Goa back to the Goans in 1987 to do with as they wished after bringing Goa up to some semblance of a mid-20th Century Indian region with some modern physical infrastructure? Just asking. In the meantime, there are thousands of proud Goans, some of whom actually live in Goa, under whose very noses the current situation has evolved since 1987. Samir is correct that the OCI is not a dual citizenship, just a special form of visa conceived by my favorite Indian hero, the canny Manmohanji, to encourage some of those green bucks that Samir rails about but is not above accepting in return for his services, to filter back to India. When it comes to benefiting India, Manmohanji doesn't consider himself more-Indian-than-those-who-earn-green-bucks:-)) There's a lesson in his attitude that our more-Goan-than-thou chest-thumpers may want to consider. Now, back to Celina's question. What next, and, more importantly, by whom?
[Goanet] Saturday Night Club
To Goanet - Until Goan Observer inadvertently let the cat out of the bag, nobody knew there was a new dog pony show in town. Ladies Gentlemen, we give you the Saturday Night Club, a secular brothel offering secular orgasms and free koptel paid for by secular builders secular miners and blessed by Digu-bab. What else goes on in this club, I wonder. A little footsie dancing, perhaps? (Note: another below-the-belt jab.) In other news - I heard that Soter and I are subjects of this week's doodle by a couple of bhaile mercenaries. This is sweet, sweet music to my ears, indeed. It is something you aspire to - to find yourself publicly on the team opposite these two reprobates. r - Goan, American citizen (Spread the word. Quick.)
[Goanet] Samir and his problems with Rajan's citizenship
Samir, Your attacks on Rajan are getting a bit tiring now. Take a good break, refresh yourself and be prepared for more. Let me tell you you have seen nothing yet. There is more to come. Couple of days ago, I saw our PM promising votes for NRIs. I am sure this will include PIO as well as OCI holders. Why just include only the OCI holders, why not include the whole world ? If you dont know elementary things about a citizenship , you should not comment on such matters. Btw, what passport/citizenship do you hold ? However, once they have voting rights, I am sure people of your ilk will find some other reason to object to any good work that people like Rajan do. The only way opportunists like Rajan will gain respect is if they have the guts to take Indian citizenship. Why, Indian citizenship is no good for Rajan ? The white man's boots look better is it ? I was in Goa couple of weeks ago. I saw examples of two types of Goans: one I would admire, the other, equally goan, that I detest. The decision of the high court in Rajan Parrikar's PIL was reported in a non-goan newspaper, Tarun Bharat. No Goan paper thought the news was worth reporting. For the first in the short history of Goa, a municipality has been forced to form a panel responsible for keeping the city clean and the contact details of this panel will have to be publicised so that people can complain if the cleanliness is not maintained. A small blow to the might of the establishment by a focused, intelligent brave Goan who was prepared to painstakingly gather evidence of dirt around Panaji and present it to the courts. What the residents of Panaji and the council will do in future is upto them but someone put his time and effort as well as money where his mouth is and did something good to improve the quality of life of a few Goans. Good for him. The other news I read was that Digambar Kamat, the one time leader in waiting of the saffron brigade and now the Kangress CM has been appointed as patron saint (or some such grandiose title) of an organisation called MARG. This is apparently an NGO/CSO. This organisation has been run by a Kelekar. Any relation? Any idea how much money this organisation takes from the govt coffers and how much of it goes to the concerned Kelekar? You can contact marg at m...@sancharnet.in and ask the relevant questions. You will get the answers. MARG is a public and transparent organization as far as I know. Is it this financial relationship with Digambar that makes Rajan a thorn in your side? If so, Goanetters should know. Rajan, the American boot licker, thorn on my side ? Give me a break man and talk sense. Let me tell you I have no financial relationship with MARG and have been a beneficiary of not a single paisa. On the other hand, I spend my own hard earned money to attend interesting functions that MARG holds. Now tell me what do you do there sitting in UK except perhaps increase your bank balance ? Why did you vamoos from Goa? The public would like to know. So, on the one hand, we have Rajan who is prepared to work selflessly for Goa while we have some niz goenkars on the gravy train. I know which type of Goans I would lend my support to. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. It is very clear that Rajan has adopted a hit and run technique, something which is very easy to do when someone is an American citizen. Any trouble in Goa and Rajan will not be seen around -- that is Rajan's plan. A PIL here or there does not count. We have to see what happens when this bloke comes in a bit of limelight (of course, other than abuse coming from his mouth) and really becomes a nuisance or a threat to the government. As of now, everything indicates that the bloke is going to scoot to America when the going gets tough. samir Anil Desai
[Goanet] MARG : 15 years of struggle
Btw, just to give a perspective, my father has been working on MARG for around 15 years full time. In the beginning hardly any money used to be donated, and my father used to somehow manage. The government has noticed MARG only in the last year or two, and have started giving money to MARG. And now blokes like Anil Desai have started questioning. It has been complete selfless service without blowing hardly any trumpets. Instead, we see how five posts go by big time farts here on Goanet on filing one PIL. Besides, we all know how easy to live off Uncle Sam. regards, Samir
[Goanet] MARG as I see it
Sameer Kelekar Also, any money that MARG has got from the govt. has been gotten on MARG's own terms and without paying a single paisa of bribe. I also agree to almost all the views expressed by Sameer Kelekar ... http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-January/188367.html Only objects Why distribute only congress party leaders photos with Marg Abhiyan. We may see Digubab's photo distributed by this year end. Shrikant Vinayak Barve The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Elitist Cabaret
Dear Samir, You said: It doesnt suit you only talking negative. I state that if you considered your exposure of corruption in infotech and attack on DG as negative, then my exposure of GBA's fraud could also be considered negative. If not, I am equally positive like you about exposing double standards with conspirators against the interests of the Goan people. You said: If GBA is screwed up, what happened to GPA ? What prevented you from leading a better GPA to solve the problems that GBA couldnt? Instead, you are forever wasting your time in attacking GBA. I state that GPA was not a people's movement. It was an acronym for 'Goa People's Assembly'. I hope you a learned person can see the difference between GBA and GPA and not get mislead by fools. If you consider exposing corruption in Infotech and Narvekar was a waste of time then probably my exposure of GBA is also so. What prevented you from setting up an Infotech Company and showing a model of development of IT in Goa? Do we need to publicly declare what initiatives we are involved with so that communal socialist elements who rape Goa can be in the know? You say: What I did for Infotech corporation is known to all. Thanks to my initiative which was later taken up by others, the corrupt. Infotech park was stopped. I say that though you may have exposed the land scam and corruption in the Infotech park, you are indirectly admitting to being part of the over all concept in setting up such projects in Goa's forest areas and in water catchment areas of Socorro. Isn't it? You say: In fact, I am still paying the price for it as Narvekar has come after me using the Assembly Breach of privilege. I say that I have been tortured since 1988 because I have opposed his projects and designs. That is the price one has to pay to speak the truth though even I sympathise with you. regards, Soter
Re: [Goanet] Who is a Goan / What are we waiting for
Dear Ms. Miranda, You say: Well, please don?t generalise Mr Sa. It is precisely because it seems to us goans abroad, that our bothers and sisters in Goa are fighting a loosing battle trying to stop Goa from going down the drain, that some of us with the best of intentions and good will are trying to see if there is anything we can do to help. Comment: What makes you think we are fighting a losing battle? Is your perception coloured by your Western 'comfort zone' glasses? If you want to do something good for Goa and Goans, then how about starting with the Goans who live in not so well appointed circumstances in your comfort zone? QUOTE: We don?t live in ?abroad paradise?, far from it., and not all of us abroad are affluent and rich ? we work hard, long hours and struggle as much as you do in Goa if not more. UNQUOTE Other than that if you really want to do something for Goa, then we the natives of this place would appreciate it if you translated your words in to action. There are quite a few Goans and Goan organizations abroad like Goa Sudharop to name one that are concretely doing some thing for Goa and that is much appreciated. Again you say and I quote: Furthermore, you don?t know the circumstances that have forced many of us to live abroad, when we would rather be in Goa, so don?t put all goans in the same basket. Not all of us are like the, and I quote Tony Sa again : ? smug Goan from Toledo, Mississauga?. giving us a sermon on how we should run our own Government, State or Panchayat.? end of quote. Don?t know who you are referring to neither do I care. Unquote Well frankly if you don't care then why bring it up? Do you have statistics of how many Goans were 'forced' by circumstances to work abroad? My perception is that most Goans who migrated did so to better their lot. A perfectly valid reason which no one can fault. To give you an example, there are for instance (I am not referring to specific cases) doctors and engineers who could if they wanted to have made a perfectly good living in Goa but chose to migrate. I reiterate, we Goans living in Goa do not want sermons from NRG's. We are perfectly capable of electing our own Government and taking our own decisions. If these do not meet your standards which are influenced by the countries that you reside in, well I have this to say: These countries were far worse than what Goa is today a few generations ago. Can we forget the prohibition in America and the Irish potato famine and the genocidal purges by the Nazis and Russians and in the Balkan Nations? What about the Northern Ireland and Basque revolts? And are countries like some of the EU countries much better than us? Once more I quote: As for all those still wasting time going on about who is a goan first, or indian second and cursing the new goans in Goa and old goans abroad , getting in a tangle and avoiding the important issues and concerns ? it is about time we change the record?..it is getting pathetic and the ?tone? of the discussion is now getting uncomfortably low?. Let?s try and call it a day. Certainly let us call it a day. I have in the past commented on this very same issue (I am too lazy to look up the archives to give you the exact link to the post) and again in the new year several posters have pleaded to keep this forum above petty bickering. I certainly endorse that. And before I wind up, let me please point out that the post of mine you have quoted above was in the thread 'Who is a Goan' and not 'What are we waiting for' -- \\\ Tony de Sa tonyd...@gmail.com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
[Goanet] Goanet] Need feedback --- meeting the CM to ask for concessions for small IT companies
I too would think it is helpful (although I have no bone to crunch) for you, and any business endeavor to get a leg-up, rather than go to a venture capitalist (I do not know the implications involved). Correct? So this is what I feel: put a time period in place as to when one weens away from the sops, if at all. Think of it as essential mother's milk, or suckling at the teat of a nurse maid. Also bear in mind that business never shies from wanting again and again, and more and more. Once again from my dad, Asloloi roddta nasloloi roddta. It should not becomes, or should it --- a modus operandi. Later some also are deemed too big to fail, and there are some superb examples. That is also referred to as success. Collate all suggestions and make your decision, unless you have made one since your post appeared. And seriously I hope your concerns on the lines of lok kitem chintele / lok kitem mhuntele is not pushing you towards kristanv guilt, and hope that for the success of your entrepreneurship, you are being facetious. The christians btw, do not have too many compunctions. So go for it in clean conscience. Thrive and keep going. venantius j pinto Message: 9 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Need feedback --- meeting the CM to ask for concessions for small IT companies A couple of us --- all IT enterprenuers mostly from Goa ( I am the only one based in Bangalore) are planning to meet the Goa CM asking for tax breaks in Goa for small IT software development companies (less than Rs. 10 crores annual revenue). I need feedback from this group as to what people think of this. I dont want cribs later saying that you are buddy to the CM etc. The Goan IT entreprenuers feel that they are having a tough time and tax sops would help a bit. I think the request is a good endeavour and worth asking for. Some of the saved money could be used to create jobs in Goa also. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 49
I will put this on the JJ internal site with the same heading and credit you. vjp Message: 9 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:33:43 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] It pays to learn Konkani Message-ID: 3090ab1d1001110903u8714c09r8cf6eb4167193...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A Goan farmer walking through his field notices a foreigner drinking water from the pond, with his hand. The Goan shouts, 'Arre baba, tem udik pienaka. Tantun gorvan ani dukor agtat!', which means, 'Don't drink the water, the cows and the pigs shit in it!' The man shouts back, 'I'm British, I don't understand your gibberish. Speak English, you idiotl!' The Goan shouts back in English, 'Use two hands, you'll get more!' ==
[Goanet] Growing mess in Goa
Now, can we get back to the discussion about the growing mess in Goa and what to do about it? By Mario Goveia -- What to do about it? Simple, pay attention to what JoeGoa is saying and taking pictures of. I feel sorry for his wasted energy, and his resilience to carry on none the less. No one is reading the NO PISSING signs, because the Ghantis cannot read. Police are on their HAFTAS. Ministers are on their Projects. and Babus at the Municipality are forever on their lunch break. END OF GOA
[Goanet] Talking House: House of Chandor
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2406/stories/20070406000506500.htm Nice article on the house of chandor, with pics. samir
[Goanet] A fresh look at future Panchayat Elections - For kind favour of Publication
PANCHAYAT ELECTIONS
'A CITIZEN'S INITIATIVE FOR AN EFFETIVE VILLAGE GOVERNANCE'
By
Floriano Lobo
Gen. Secretary, Goa Su-Raj Party
Email: floriano.l...@gmail.com
Phone: (Res) 2470223 (M) 9890470896
Introduction:
It is generally observed that the Panchayat bodies ( Panches and the
Sarpanch) are at loggerheads with the Gram Sabha members and most Gram Sabha
meetings end up in a fiasco. The ideal situation would be that the Panchayat
bodies which are elected by the Gram Sabha members conduct themselves in
accordance with the wishes of the Gram Sabhas ( Resolutions Passed). But
very seldom this is the case. Most often than not, the resolutions passed by
Gram Sabhas are fit for the waste paper basket.
In Goa we have 189 or so Panchayats. Do we have a single Panchayat whose
Sarpanch does not entertain any illegalities and if so, has s/he survived
for more than 3 months in the chair without being knocked off through
no-confidence motion? And those Panchayat which are stable without a whisper
of opposition within, are most detrimental for the overall well being of
the concerned villages because opposition [constructive criticism] is the
essence of good governance.
Preamble:
Panchayat elections are very very important elections, contrary to what is
believed. In the 73rd. Amendment to the Constitution of India, there are
approximately 28 items for transfer of powers from the State Government to
the Panchayats relating to the governance and/or the development of the
Panchayat held areas. So far only a handful few (just 2 or 3) of those items
are transferred to the Panchayats by the State Government mainly because of
two reasons:- (1) The State Government does not want to relinquish its
powers believing that its Ministers or the MLAs will be powerless, and, (2)
The Panchayats are not capable enough to hold such powers. Furthermore, the
implementation of the 73rd. Amendment as of now, with the Panchayat Raj Act
remaining as it is, will see more full-fledged corruption at the Panchayat
level. If at all the government is serious in implementing the 73rd.
Amendment in Goa, the Panchayat Raj Act must be amended to hold the Sarpanch
and the Secretary accountable, fully and completely.
[A good look as to what would happen if the 73rd. Amendment was implemented
as of today with the existing Panchayat Raj Act. All 28 powers would be
transferred to the Panchayats. The Panchayats which are already corrupted,
would have a field day, with the legislators (read MLAs and Cabinet
Ministers) losing their punch at percentages. With no money to be made at
the Assembly level, there would be a rush to get into the Panchayats at the
next elections. Eventually who would contest Assembly Elections would be
persons who do not want to be in the rat-race. This breed being the
legislators and Cabinet Ministers who do not enjoy the warmth of the money
pot and who cannot make money by virtue of money not being there, would sit
down and frame stricter laws, rules and regulations, so that no money could
be made at the Panchayat level either, a veritable 'Dog in the Manger'
situation where the sentiment on display would be: 'if we cannot make
money, you too shall not make it' [there being a rare chance that
legislators and Panchayat members working together to loot the exchequer].
If money is not there to be made at Panchayat level also, no one would be
interested in occupying these posts and we would be back to square one {
where in the early days of Panchayats, people had to be coaxed and cajoled
to contest Panchayat elections}. The rats would rather look at other ways of
sustaining themselves, invariably by shedding the sweat of their brows. In
this situation the winners would be the tax-paying people]
Having said that, today, as against a couple of decades ago, Panchayat posts
are looked upon as money-spinners and as such every Tom Dick and Harry wants
to contest these elections. Besides, these posts have stopped being honorary
post. Gone are the days when the people of the village had to literally
drag knowledgeable persons to become Sarpanches. This is because the
Panchayat hierarchy has been reduced to a bundle of corruption where any and
all development plans in the villages are considered on 'percentage' basis.
When such percentages are distributed amongst the members of the hierarchy,
there is not much left to go into such development projects and these are
naturally reduced to mere shams, scams and white elephants, sucking in the
tax-payer's hard earned money. This, in fact, is the way of life in the
presently held Panchayat Raj system in this State, where people who would
want to go through the lawful formalities are advised not to do so by the
Panchayat members citing (imaginary) inadvertent official delays due to
'red-tape'ism and laborious procedures. This, in fact, puts the innocent
people into a pot of trouble having taken this ill-advice at face value and
subsequently become the milching cows for
[Goanet] fool's paradise
Josebab writes: RESPONSE (for the record) re #1: Grateful if you would please elucidate why you believe that Rajan's attack on Oscar was 'below-the-belt' Apart from the fact that Oscar is no more the GBA convenor, suppose GBA is indeed hands-in-gloves with the govt., and you are concerneed about solving a problem, the right approach is to go your own way and start your own GPA. In fact, GPA was I think already started with Remo, Norma, Hema etc joining in. Whatever happened to that ? If GPA had gone on the right path and GBA had faltered, the Goan people would have supported GPA. After all GBA does not have exclusivity over saving Goa. Instead, continuous negative attacks without anything positive doesnt help anybody. re #2: Grateful if you would please advise us what Oscar has done more than Rajan (besides Medicine) Oscar unlike Rajan worked in a team called GBA. GBA's major achievement was scrapping the RP 2011. Besides, GBA has taken on biggies such as DLF --- see the recent ruling on stopping Dabolim hill cutting. Rajan is a baby in comparison --- taking on ghantis in Panjim is a cinch compared to taking on the biggies in a court. re #3: You are like a RC priest doing marriage counselling and advising family planning. How do you, Samir, know what truly is a 'married man's love for a girl friend'? True love is characterized by commitment. If a married man has true love for his girl friend, he will divorce his wife and marry his girlfriend. It is unfortunate if you havent still figured this out, Jose. regards, Samir jc
[Goanet] Soth Uloi
Dear Anthony, What an honour to meet, albeit in the cyberworld, the son of the man who published Sott Uloi. This was a very popular newspaper (I didn't know it was a weekly),indeed it was read almost religiously by my grandfather. My mother recalls buying him copies of it and he being absolutely disapointed if she couldn't buy him one. It was the main source of information for the villages of Goa, those who weren't tutored in Portuguese or English but who could read nonetheless in Konkani. Although I myself don't know where you could find copies of it, (I wish my mother had saved some), there is a man in Margao who has possibly the largest collection of Konkani literature. I don't know his name but I believe he is located in the complex which we now call sokol bazaar, just off the Margao praca. Perhaps he might be able to help you. If you would like to share some information about your father on this forum or in private to me, I would really appreciate it. My email is: carvalho_...@yahoo.com Best, selma
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (11Jan10)
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Re: [Goanet] Samir and his problems with Rajan's citizenship
To Goanet - Dr. Anil Desai wrote: Samir, Your attacks on Rajan are getting a bit tiring now. Boring, too. The guy punches with all the force of a wrinkled old prune on dialysis. Couple of days ago, I saw our PM promising votes for NRIs. I am sure this will include PIO as well as OCI holders. However, once they have voting rights, I am sure people of your ilk will find some other reason to object to any good work that people like Rajan do. Indeed, we expect voting rights to come our way soon. In any case, Indian PM Manmohanator has been wooing us Americans, throwing receptions with biriyani and kababs. We Americans are flattered and we love biryani although not as much as we love greenbacks.. I was in Goa couple of weeks ago. I saw examples of two types of Goans: one I would admire, the other, equally goan, that I detest. The decision of the high court in Rajan Parrikar's PIL was reported in a non-goan newspaper, Tarun Bharat. No Goan paper thought the news was worth reporting. For the first in the short history of Goa, a municipality has been forced to form a panel responsible for keeping the city clean and the contact details of this panel will have to be publicised so that people can complain if the cleanliness is not maintained. A small blow to the might of the establishment by a focused, intelligent brave Goan who was prepared to painstakingly gather evidence of dirt around Panaji and present it to the courts. What the residents of Panaji and the council will do in future is upto them but someone put his time and effort as well as money where his mouth is and did something good to improve the quality of life of a few Goans. Excellent summary, and I readily accept all the adjectives you accuse me of. Furthermore, this work is ongoing, we expect to enlist young, energetic Panjim folks to the cause. It is remarkable how much influence an opportunistic American can wield in Goa if he wants to, when he wants to. The other news I read was that Digambar Kamat, the one time leader in waiting of the saffron brigade and now the Kangress CM has been appointed as patron saint (or some such grandiose title) of an organisation called MARG. This is apparently an NGO/CSO. This organisation has been run by a Kelekar. Any relation? Any idea how much money this organisation takes from the govt coffers and how much of it goes to the concerned Kelekar? Is it this financial relationship with Digambar that makes Rajan a thorn in your side? If so, Goanetters should know. Excellent questions for which you can expect more petulant babble from Bengaluru. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] fool's paradise
My dear Samirbab, I am happy that you are happy with the responses to the following questions. Q1: Grateful if you would please elucidate why you believe that Rajan's attack on Oscar was 'below-the-belt' Q2: Grateful if you would please advise us what Oscar has done more than Rajan (besides Medicine) To me ...the answers are fluff. Accordingly, I believe (unless you provide better answers) that your attack on Rajanbab was totally unjustified. I will however, concentrate on the following question from me and your answer. Q 3: You are like a RC priest doing marriage counselling and advising family planning. How do you, Samir, know what truly is a 'married man's love for a girl friend'? You (Samirbab) wrote the following (and even asked a question): True love is characterized by commitment. If a married man has true love for his girl friend, he will divorce his wife and marry his girlfriend. It is unfortunate if you havent still figured this out, Jose. jc's RESPONSE: Thank you Samirbab. Even Fr. Ivo would be proud of your answer. I'd, however, say the following: a: Commitment is NOT a one-way street. a1: It is difficult to love a person (or entity) who/which comes in and takes over running your house and does things without even bothering to ask May I come in? Never mind which other person was living with me previously. The place did not legally belong to you You trespassed when you came in. a2: It is difficult to love a person (or entity) who/which comes in and destroys your furniture (or environment) a3: It is difficult to love a person (or entity) who/which comes in and just places his/her /its own people (some lesser qualified) to Lord over you. In-laws are fine but please do not come and treat my property as yours. It isn't yours. Comprende? a4: It is difficult to love a person (or entity) who/which comes in takes away more funds which you generate than it invests into the development/infrastructure of the relationship/house etc b: I definitely would NOT know about a Married person having a girlfriend. Would you? c: Relationships are built on Trust - not on brute force, thiefing and politics. What do you say? Do you realise WHY I would not seek advice on Marriage (or Girl Friends) from a RC priest or from you? I'd venture to say that both you and the RC priest know equally about Marriage, and that, my dear Samirbab - is not very much. I am praying that both you and the RC priests can somehow modify that situation sometime soon (:-) When you do that . I will return to this topic jc boot-licker et al
[Goanet] Is Goan Indian?
I thank Mr Goveia for intimating that I may be ‘xanno’. I am grateful for his kindness but I wouldn’t be too sure about that. I hasten to assure Mr Cajetan Alvares that my assumption of the ‘xanno’ sobriquet has merely been an attempt for the last couple of decades or so to play with the hereditary tag my fellow ganvcars have been saddled with for centuries. It is a bit sad though that Mr Alvares has such a low opinion of Moidecars per se. But then weighed down with intelligence as he so obviously is, it must be difficult for one of Mr Alvares’ calibre to suffer fools gladly. Now for Mr Alvares’ fill in the blank: “I am born on the Indian subcontinent, etc., etc., hence my nationality is…….” I wasn’t. And Mr Alvares please clarify whether the person completing that sentence would have been born post or prior 1945 and if after the end of the British Indian State in which of the three nations of the sub-continent. Secondly Mr Alvares pray tell me why you consider yourself an Indian. I insinuate no insult here. I just want Mr Alvares’ notion of nationhood delineated. Sincerely Xanno Moidecar
[Goanet] Samir Kelekar and his problems with Rajan's citizenship
From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Samir and his problems with Rajan's citizenship Message-ID: 575296.69886...@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Samir, Your attacks on Rajan are getting a bit tiring now. *Take a good break, refresh yourself and be prepared for more. ?Let me tell you you have seen nothing yet. There is more to come.* Response: Your detailed response about MARG was good and I was prepared to accept your word on it. Then you had to go and spoil it and show to the whole goanet that education does not always work. You have asked me about my citizenship and you have also asserted that I do not understand anything about citizenship. So read this slowly and carefully and you might pick up one or two problems with this notion of citizenship that you have in your head: I hold Indian citizenship. I am not allowed to vote in Panchayat, State assembly or Parliamentary elections in India although Manmohan Singh has promised to change this by next election. I am on the registered voters' list for UK council as well as parliamentary elections and also for European parliamentary elections. I believe in democracy. So, I have voted in most of the elections for these bodies since 1982. *Now tell me what do you do there sitting in UK except perhaps increase your bank balance ? *Your life seems to revolve around people making money. Are you in some sort of financial difficulty? Just the way goanetters pitched in when you were summoned to the floor of the assembly, we can start an appeal for help. For your information, I have been increasing my bank balance while keeping my Indian citizenship. Here in the UK, I work as a surgeon and help a lot of people who come to consult me. * Why did you vamoos from Goa? The public would like to know. *This is what turned up on google *vamoos* - 1 definition - To tell someone to go away, because that person was dwarfing you big-time. If I follow this definition, I can tell you that there were quite a few people who told me not leave Goa. I left Goa and India because despite being a gold medalist of Bombay university, I could not get a postgraduate seat in Bombay and in goa, there was no possibility of getting good surgical experience because the procedures carried out at the GMC were very limited and so was the experience of the surgeons who were our teachers. I can explain this in more detail if you are interested. * *Lastly, all the foul language you have used in your post: I believe your father has tried to give you good education. You wrote in your post that your father lives like a sage. What will he think if he reads your posts? Was it a problem with your upbringing or the influence of Deve Gauda that made you respond to my civil queries with that sort of language? When you respond to this post, please try to be civil. Anil Desai
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Bad or good... the most influential of the decade (Dr Oscar Rebello, Goan Observer)
Bad or good... the most influential BY DR OSCAR REBELLO docosca...@rediffmail.com I was asked by the Goan Observer to put up my personal choices of the ten most influential set of people who influenced the decade. Some did so positively, some did so negatively, and some were there with a huge potential but stumbled on the way and fell. Of course, the list contains all my personal biases, which hopefully every human being can have. If 2000-2009 was the 'decadus horribilis' for Goa, we can only hope and pray that the next will be a 'Decadus Mirabbilis', but if wishes were horses, pigs would fly. MANOHAR PARRIKAR: Easily the most influential person of the decade. He divided Goa into two poles, those who loathed him passionately due to his ideology and arrogance and those who loved him blindly for his integrity and administrative brilliance. Pity there weren't enough folks to dissect him in a neutral profile, and even sadder that he chose NOT to listen to his well-meaning critics. At the end of the day, his own worst enemy. SANDESH PRABHUDESAI: As editor of Sunaparant, he blazed a trail for Konkani and issues, but it's in his avatar as editor-in-chief of Prudent Media that he has brilliantly shone. Using the powerful image of TV, he has exposed many a scandal and taken tough positions on burning issues regarding Goa. As they say, you can take an editor out of an activist, but you can never taken an activist out of an editor. SABINA MARTINS, AUDA VIEGAS, ALBERTINA ALMEIDA, PRAMOD SALGAOCAR: Women-power with maximum impact. To get casino owners, rapists, molesters and all other epithets men are usually conferred with to quaver in their pants is no mean task. Sometimes perceived as anti-men, their visible service to womankind in Goa is truly phenomenal. FR MAVERICK FERNANDES: The Church's visible symbol of Lamb and Lion. The man who put the principles of social justice and peace -- the bedrock of Christian teaching -- into actual practice. You may disagree with his anti-capitalist ideology, but you can never deny his single-minded devotion to galvanising, mobilising and encouraging the poor of the State to find their voice, irrespective of the community they belong to. CLAUDE ALVARES: His detractors call him 'Fraud' Alvares. For me, he is most emphatically 'God' Alvares. The original Big Daddy of environment issues in Goa before Al Gore and Obama even knew to pronounce 'climate change'. His yeoman work and, especially over the last decade, his humongous legal battles, is the stuff legends are made of. And oh yes, by the way, he is a Mangalorean (a 'bhailo'). DR NANDKUMAR KAMAT: Never has Goa produced such a dazzling luminary of knowledge, erudition and scientific brilliance as him. Eccentric and unapproachable at most times, his painstaking research into all aspects of Goan life -- past, present and future -- is more valuable than the Kohinoor for us. MATANHY SALDANHA: Indefatigable, tenacious, pugnacious. The old war horse, true to his ideals, has articulated thousands of Goan issues with a singular passion. Can be obstinate at times and does miss the wood for the trees in a post-liberalised, youthful era of politics. VISHWAJIT RANE: The de facto lambi race ka ghoda. Doesn't have the regal aloofness of his illustrious father. Mingles with the hoi polloi easily but also in the same way does not share his father's early innings' reputation as CM and vision for Goa. Sadly believes that the colour of money wins elections -- not integrity, ideology or innovation. BABUSH MONSERRATE: The bad boy of Goan politics. Steam rolls past any opposition or law books and then bankrolls huge political battles. His constituency worship shim for the generous benevolence and monetary goodies he bestows on them. But at what cost? The cost of Goa itself! THE PEOPLE OF SALELI, KUNDAIM AND KERI: Way back before agitations against RP2011, SEZ, mega projects and illegal mining became the flavour of the decade and a toast of the nation, it was these humble villagers who rose in revolt against the abuse of authority and power and who blazed the path for us to achieve -- maybe a not so perfect but -- greener and saner tomorrow. SATURDAY NIGHT CLUB OF MARGAO: Comprising of stalwarts like Datta Naik, Dr Francisco Colaco, Shridhar Kamat, Prashant Naik and many others. This is the nerve centre in the forefront in the battle to keep Goa secular and free from communal strife. These guys have put their lives and reputations on the line in this battle. What one wishes, in the present circumstances, is for them to pressure their friendly neighbourhood MLA -- who incidentally happens to be the Chief Minister -- to wake up and smell the coffee with the disintegration and moral decay of Goa continuing on his watch. [First published in the Goan Observer, Panjim Jan 2-8, 2010]
[Goanet] Double Standards in Western press
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:20:32 -0800 (PST) From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com The point of my post, was the Indian newspaper's witty and pointed message of the cartoon, (no pun intended) regarding the response of the Australian police, was taken as an affront by the Australian cabinet minister. No such luck when cartoons in the Western media distort and / or offend the ethnic or religious sensitivities of other groups / nationalities.? If one believes in freedom of the press, the minister should have stayed out of the reporting of a free-press. I guess we know when and where the shoe bites. Mario responds: This is a gross misrepresentation of the situation and the initial post as well. There was a double standard being used, but it was not by the Australians. To begin with, representing the Australian police as racists of the worst kind by using a Ku Klux Klan cartoon is hardly witty and pointed when there is no evidence that the attacks were based on race as we can see from the puerile explanation of the Mail Today editor. The cartoon was deliberately meant to offend and provoke the Australian Police who had already increased their efforts to prevent these attacks and were thus not ignoring them. Quote: People in India perceive these attacks as racist, because their children are being attacked and killed. So it's good if Australia is getting agitated. The more agitated they get, the harder they will work to improve the situation, he told the BBC. Unquote. Just because their children are being attacked how does this make the attacks racist? As Gabriel has shown, some were clearly not. Secondly, none of the officials in Australia who protested the deliberate and grossly offensive cartoon said the paper had no right to print it, i.e. did not use their official positions to impede freedom of speech in India. This is precisely why mentioning the Danish cartoons in the original post was in poor taste because in that case the Danish cartoonist WAS using his freedom of speech, whereas the reaction was mass rioting and arson across several Muslim countries that took the lives of over a hundred rioters in police firings to quell the riots. This is hardly comparable to the reactions in Australia, nor were the reactions by Muslim radicals an expression of free speech. In fact, four years after the cartoons were first published there was yet anothet attempt on the cartoonists life just a few days ago.
[Goanet] God and You
Albert writes:- We get peace when we are in the presence of God. Jesus is the prince of peace. When he rose from the dead the first words he spoke was Peace be with you. In today's world our lives have never become peaceful because we do not read the word of God. The word of God is the bread of life. Reading daily flash is not the word of God. There are many people who are trying to block the word of God. They have many stories to tell and theories to put before you but when it comes to prove it they cannot. what Ignatius once said to Francis who does it profit a man I will not repeat it. I hope these words do not be true in your life. What when you die you discover your train was running on a wrong track ? and that while some station masters were trying to draw your attention you never paid any heed to them and rebuked them. What will you do if you find your favourite saint is not there ? Mary has never asked you to say the rosary. This prayer has been created by some priest because they found exodus of christians moving out. _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] Colva CD: Song that took Goa Church 15 days to compose
Colva CD: Song that took Goa Church 15 days to compose It sings in different tune though! == Written by NT Network Tuesday, 12 January 2010 01:21 Archbishop expresses solidarity with Colva parish priest MARGAO: Expressing his solidarity with all, Archbishop of Goa and Daman, Rev Filipe Neri Ferrão has appealed for peace and tranquility, reacting to the recent happenings at Colva. “In the prevailing circumstances, I appeal to everyone, particularly to the faithful in the parish of Colva, to maintain peace and tranquility; may the Good Lord give us the necessary strength in this serious and disturbing situation. Let us, in our parishes and families, intensify our prayer that all those who have suffered in these disturbances, particularly the parish priest of Colva, may experience our support and solidarity in faith,” says the letter to be read out in Colva and neighbouring parishes. The letter, to express concern and regret over the happenings that have taken place recently at Colva, says that the cause of “our pain and concern is the recently released Konkani audio CD titled, ‘Dogui Bodmas,’ and the ensuing disturbances.” Commiserating with the Colva parish priest, Fr Diogo Fernandes, who “had to suffer a great deal because of the above mentioned CD: we extend to him our heartfelt solidarity,” the letter commends his self-restraint and his appeal to his parishioners to exercise the same, even in the face of the defamation he was being subjected to. The letter also appreciates the support the parishioners of Colva extended to their priest and said that this revealed how highly they value their faith, their shepherd and their religious standards. However, the letter stresses the efforts they put in to see that such attempts are not repeated is to be “underscored.” However it cautions on violence: “A word about the violence that erupted on the occasion. Violence is not a way of human or Christian life. Many well-known personalities have given and lived out this teaching. In our own country, we had Mahatma Gandhi, and in America there was Martin Luther King. But we have Jesus! Although He fell victim to unspeakable violence, He did not use it and, in so doing, He destroyed its power. As a man of peace, He triumphed over violence. To cultivate this ideal should be our lifelong programme. We may fail here and there while pursuing it, but we need to rise up from our falls and march forward.” However, it says that this does not stop anyone from standing up for their rights, especially when they are trampled upon. “Protecting our reputation, defending our faith and our shepherds, ensuring the free exercise of our religion are some of our civic rights. Defending them against unwarranted attacks is perfectly legitimate.” “Let us remember that Jesus said to the guard who slapped him: “If there is something wrong in what I said, point it out; but if there is not, why do you strike me?” It also cautions the artist by saying that it is not enough that an audio CD features great music and mellifluous voices. One needs to analyse the message the CD wants to convey, and to see how it can help spread good and check evil, particularly defamation. Those who use art to spread evil actually trample art underfoot. The Pope, speaking to the artists last November, said: “Your task, your mission, your art consists in grasping treasures from the heavenly realm of the spirit and clothing them in words, colours, forms, making them accessible.” Many of our artists, embracing such high ideals, keep spreading the good through their work: they have our sincere praise. Unfortunately, the producer of the CD Dogui Bodmas and the artists who collaborated with him did not keep these sound principles in mind and, misusing their God-given artistic talent, placed their own reputation in danger. Saying that all are human: priests, ministers, everyone, “We are bound to fail, some time or the other. Nevertheless, to protect one’s reputation is a basic human right and no one may violate it. To produce a CD, a tiatr, a movie, a printed text or even a drawing, highlighting anyone’s faults or incriminating an innocent individual is highly objectionable and condemnable. In this context, we strongly protest against the audio CD Dogui Bodmas. It is for the concerned to see that human rights are respected and promoted.” http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/7283-archbishop-expresses-solidarity-with-colva-parish-priest joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] NEWS: Dogui Bodmas: VCD in the offing? (Gomantak Times)
Dogui Bodmas: VCD in the offing? Ban CD sale in entire Goa: Andrade report...@gomantaktimes.com MARGAO: Even as smoke still emanates from the fire lit by the audio CD 'Dogui Bodmash', the Colva Parish Pastoral Council apprehends production of its video version -- a VCD -- on this very issue. The Moderator of the Council, Jason Andrade wants the state government to nip any such move on the part of anyone to initiate such an action. At the same time, Andrade has also expressed his displeasure over the 'compartmentalisation' of the state into North and South districts while enforcing a ban on the controversial audio CD 'Dogui Bodmash.' Referring to the Additional District Magistrate's fiat of banning the CD only in South Goa, Andrade now wants the state government to extend the ban uniformly throughout the state. It appears that the conspiracy of the above accused (Calvert Gonsalves) is still on as far as conceptualising, directing and recording of video CD of the same subject matter as the audio CD above is concerned as the said intention is clearly reflected on the audio CD cover 'Dogui Bodmash.' We demand that this intended action of the alleged accused in bringing the VCD version of the same be pre-empted by the state government by necessary action in that regard, demands Andrade. He has also doled out a piece of advice to the advocate representing the alleged producer of the controversial CD for making 'unwarranted statements' to the media. They are only intended to bring in some publicity which is devoid of any merits. An advocate is meant to defend his client in the court and not make off the record statements to the press, avers Andrade. The Moderator has not spared the media either. He wants the media 'to objectively rationally and with sensitivity and responsibility to cover such events that require coverage in the interest of justice and to represent true facts in true perspective to the people.' Andrade has put forth the aforesaid views in a press release issued yesterday, January 8, in his capacity as the Moderator of the Colva Parish Pastoral Council and has also included parishioners/constituents/components of Colva. Source: Gomantak Times
[Goanet] Fascinating developments on Goanet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:29:32 +0530 From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com Comments addressed to Carmen Miranda: What makes you think we are fighting a losing battle? Is your perception coloured by your Western 'comfort zone' glasses? If you want to do something good for Goa and Goans, then how about starting with the Goans who live in not so well appointed circumstances in your comfort zone? Other than that if you really want to do something for Goa, then we the natives of this place would appreciate it if you translated your words in to action. Well frankly if you don't care then why bring it up? Do you have statistics of how many Goans were 'forced' by circumstances to work abroad? My perception is that most Goans who migrated did so to better their lot. I reiterate, we Goans living in Goa do not want sermons from NRG's. We are perfectly capable of electing our own Government and taking our own decisions. Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:46:21 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com Response to Anil Desai with threats aimed at Rajan Parrikar: Take a good break, refresh yourself and be prepared for more. ?Let me tell you you have seen nothing yet. There is more to come. The only way opportunists like Rajan will gain respect is if they have the guts to take Indian citizenship. Why, Indian citizenship is no good for Rajan ? The white man's boots look better is it ? Rajan, the American boot licker, thorn on my side ? Give me a break man and talk sense. Now tell me what do you do there sitting in UK except perhaps increase your bank balance ? Why did you vamoos from Goa? The public would like to know. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. It is very clear that Rajan has adopted a hit and run technique, something which is very easy to do when someone is an American citizen. Any trouble in Goa and Rajan will not be seen around -- that is Rajan's plan. A PIL here or there does not count. We have to see what happens when this bloke comes in a bit of limelight (of course, other than abuse coming from his mouth) and really becomes a nuisance or a threat to the government. As of now, everything indicates that the bloke is going to scoot to America when the going gets tough. Mario observes: I am absolutely fascinated with this recent phenomenon on Goanet, where the primary targets of some angry local Goan activists are not the corrupt politicians and scurrilous business interests in Goa, but their fellow Goans who happen to live abroad, even Carmen and Rajan and Arwin, who only seem to want to help, with nothing in it for them that I can see. This probably goes a long way in explaining why Goa is in such a mess to begin with. Even Goa's fabled crabs must be cowering in their holes in embarrassment at being so upstaged:-)) Could there be some guilty consciences that are suddenly thrashing around to gain some traction after being asleep at the switch lo these many years since Goa was handed over the the Goans in 1987. In the meantime I plead guilty to all the charges against me. I grew up a Goan-Bhayya, and was always a lesser Goan-than-thou than the chest-thumpers. My freedom-fighter relatives did not live long enough for the pensions I keep hearing about. It never occurred to me to brazenly claim I was a SuperGoan like some who have also left Goa ostensibly to make a buck, but want us to ignore that little detail. I left India in search of those lousy greenbacks after Indira started putting ceilings on corporate salaries in India. I stayed away when I found to my delight that Americans are shamelessly consumerist and believe the good earth is far more rugged and sustainable if we could only get the elites who know what's good for everyone else better than they do, out of the way, politically speaking. In America, they actually do something about their problems folks, and some other country's problems as well, which infuriates some people. I think Samir is stuck in the John Wayne era:-)) Today, Indian-American boots must taste better than white man's boots, because Indian boots are in great demand among bootlickers:-)) I used to be an Indian first, when I had no choice, until India decided to screw me, and am now an American first. I do appreciate the good things about my ancestry and my homeland, without being weighed down by any debilitating sentimental baggage. I have invested some of my greenbacks in India because it suited me to do so. India has changed for the better since I left and Manmohanji began to impose some common sense on the place. I don't have the guts to become an Indian citizen. Sorry about that. When you are an American - the name ends in I can - you actually can do a lot as the old Soviet Union and Saddam found out the hard way. We're still working on the Taliban. If you don't like any of this, please sue me in the Hague:-))
[Goanet] MILAGRINCHO KHURIS - VATT (MIRACULOUS CROSS - THE WAY)
MILAGRINCHO KHURIS - VATT (MIRACULOUS CROSS - THE WAY) It is an open fact that most of us were converted to the Christianity by the Portuguese, soon after it set foot in Goa in 1510. The early converts liked to proudly show off their newly acquired emblem - the cross. So, wayside crosses began to appear all over Goa. The converts usually took on the name of the priest or the College who or where they were baptized. After conversion, they were expected to make a clean break from their Hindu past. Not only were their names changed but also their food habits, social customs and even dress had to conform to the way of living of the European Christians. Several old Hindu practices were enhanced in their Christianized versions. The place of honor given to the family deity was now given to the Oratorio. The flame burned before a crucifix and various Christian saints. The Tulsi plant in front of the house gave way to the Cross in front of Christian homes, and Christian prayers accompanied pre-marriage ceremonies. In villages, the Novem (harvest procession) was headed by a Christian priest instead of a Hindu one and he also performed the traditional blessing of the first sheaves of paddy. When a house foundation was laid, they carved out a cross on a stone and it was kept in front of the house until the construction was over. As soon as a house was complete, they raised a stone pedestal inside the compound, opposite the balcony/verandah, and placed the cross-carved stone on it; this tradition is now slowly dying out. They celebrated a litany to the cross and inaugurated the house. They then placed flowers and adored the cross every day. If you look around, you come across several crosses in Anjuna. Individually owned crosses are located inside their compounds and others are located by the road. Similarly, whenever a person met with an accident and died on the road, they erected and still erect a cross on the spot so passers by remember him/her and pray for his/her soul. Most 'capelinas' (little chapels) which don't celebrate mass on Sundays are dedicated to Santa Cruz (Holy Cross) and their feast is celebrated all over Goa on May 3. In Portuguese they say: 'Três de Maio, Santa Cruz'! (The third of May, Holy Cross!) Thus, some crosses became the venue of individual and community prayer, which later on turned into chapels. In the past, we celebrated only one feast in Anjuna in the month of January - the feast of Our Lady the Advocate of sinners, which was also known and is still known as Boramchem fest - (Feast of wild berries) because Anjuna is full of wild berry trees and they bear the fruit during this month. The feast was celebrated yesterday. From 1999, we began to celebrate the feast of the Holy Cross on the hill, which is known as Milagrincho Khuris (The Miraculous Cross). The feast is always celebrated on the 2nd Monday of January at 4:30 p.m. During our childhood the cross was known as Dongravoilo Khuris (Cross from the hill). It was also known as Gorvam Raknneancho Khuris (Cowherd's Cross) because during the monsoon season when cowherds grazed their cattle on the hill, whenever it rained, they took shelter in it. If you stand in front of the cross, you can see the lush green valley below and also have a clear aerial view of most of Anjuna. From the left you can see Danddo/Sam Miguel Vaddo, Praias, Anjuna beach, D'Mello vaddo, Vagator, Xapora, the ancient Xapora Fort and the Arabian Sea beyond. On its right, you can see Badem, Siolim hill, Assagao and its church and part of North Mapusa. In the past, one could also see Marmagoa Harbour in the distance and the ships in the wait in the Arabian Sea, but now that view is blocked by growing trees. Half a century ago, very few people venerated the cross. In our childhood, we visited the cross during our trips to the hill to collect churnam and kannttam. The only other time we visited the cross was when there was delay in rainfall. In the past, it almost always rained by mid-May. Due to this fact, most paddy fields were prepared for cultivation by mid-May. However, sometimes there would be delay in the rainfall, or if it rained it would suddenly stop raining and render the fields dry. Whenever such a situation arose, people from Gaumvaddy, Igrez Vaddo, St. Sebastian Vaddo, and other vaddos, went on a foot pilgrimage to the cross. Elderly as well as children, gathered in the compound of St. John's chapel and then marched to Dongravoilo Khuris. Each person carried a sizeable stone on his/her head, as a penance. We said rosaries, sang religious hymns and prayed throughout our journey. Special hymns were sung during our trip to the cross. The following lines come to my mind: Voile, voile vainginnim Pavs ghal ghe Saibinnim. Sant Anton manchea bettan Pavs ghal Saiba amchea xetan San Anton boddvo Pavs ghal Saiba toddvo. We would thus pray, sing hymns and proceed to the cross.
[Goanet] Right to Vote
Right to Vote On Friday, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh announced that Non Resident Indians (NRIs) would soon be made eligible to vote in elections in the country. LISA MONTEIRO captures reactions of NRIs on this decision. It is a great idea because we as NRIs are not residents of this state of Kuwait. We only live here temporarily: It is as if we are just taking leave from India to work. The banks in India make interest/profit on the money we deposit or send there. So in a way we are contributing to the country as that money is definitely used by the government to enhance their projects. Moreover, when we come down to Goa, why should we be forced to make a voting card again? Since we come down for just a short visit, we should have one ready and waiting for us. Plus we have our own houses and we pay house tax, so why should we be made to feel like we don't belong to India? As Gulfies, particularly, we cannot have residence here, no matter how long we live and work in Kuwait. Antonio Fernandes, Engineer Kuwait, past 30 years The government will also have to look into the logistics of carrying out the exercise. We NRIs cannot incur the expenditure and time of flying for every election to India. Some arrangements will have to be made, so that the exercise is carried out smoothly and effectively. My Goan friends and I are overjoyed with this news. We have been campaigning for this cause for a long time in Cyber space and are eager to make a positive change in the political scenario by electing people with a clean record to the assembly and parliament. Armstrong Vaz, journalist Qatar, past four years I welcome this latest statement of the Prime Minister. It is a great step towards getting NRI involvement in the affairs of their state/country. NRI Goans contribute significantly to the Goan economy but unfortunately are not properly acknowledged by the Goa Government. For example, The Goa Government Economic Data does not show the contribution of the NRI's towards the States GDP. Also this idea can be most beneficial for Goans; as we are one of the few states in the country that has the highest percentage of NRIs to local state population. Arwin Mesquita, Brand Manager UAE, past five years I've been out of India for so many years that T don't know - what the scene there is like anymore. How is it possible for me to choose a leader when I am not aware of what is happening in the country? I think it is best left to the locals of the land to choose a leader because ultimately they will be living in the country and will have to deal with the consequences. The politics in India are so corrupt that it is difficult to comprehend what's happening. Changes in the government keep taking place every few months. Since us NRIs are not up-to-date with the activities in India, an important decision like choosing the next leader shouldn't be left in our hands. Our interference might only prove to be detrimental to the country and its people. Prexedes Gomes, Ground staff (KA) Kuwait. past 27 years It is a good idea to be a part of the process in the interest of development, planning, social and economical trends of the country. We, the gulf Goans/Indians are bound to return sooner or later to India as our abode here is temporary no matter what our financial standing is. Among the demands put forth at the Goa association in Kuwait, one has been the right to vote. We keenly follow each and every event and political happening in Goa and India as a whole. Gasper Almeida, Marketting Head Kuwait, past 27 years I feel, even though we do not live in India we are still people of the land. We contribute a considerable amount to the growth of the country by sending money home and buying land, houses, etc. It is also where we possibly see ourselves resettling in the future. In view of this we should be given the right to choose a candidate for the best possible future of India. Amanda Mazarello, Special educator Sydney, Australia, past one year This has been the demand of NRI's to every Govt delegation that came overseas. Many a times during the election time, the politician for example in Goa influence the voter just around the time of election. But this will not happen in case of NRI's. Most Goans atleast based in the Gulf keep an update of the political developments in Goa, and the conduct of the ministers and MLA's. We, the Gulf Goans learn our ministers through the works and not through their election bhaxons. Hence, the NRI will vote for a better candidate, as he will not be infleunced by their last minute empty promises and last minute bribes. Although this little percentage of votes may not change much but atleast it can change the fate of one or two candidates. Morevoer, the NRIs contribute to the national economy and they should be given a right to have a say in the govt formation also - which through this right of voting. GR Crasto,
[Goanet] Goanet] Samir Kelekar and his problems with Rajan's citizenship
Anil Desai talks about my foul language. Can you specifiy what you are talking about ? You must be reading your buddy Rajan Parrikar's posts! Talk about hypocrisy!!! Here is another case of someone who has gone abroad for greener pastures, and pontificates about Goa from behind his keyboard. samir
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (12Jan10)
Another Tiatr...when the first 'Garibi Hatao' is still running into packed houses! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] COMMENT: Vavraddeancho Ixtt -- voice of Goans (Shanti Maria, in Gomantak Times)
Vavraddeancho Ixtt -- voice of Goans By Shanti Maria A silent contributor towards Goan culture identity and progress It was with great pride, pomp, pleasure, enjoyment and joy that the avid, ardent and enthusiastic readers of the Vavraddeancho Ixtt witnessed the celebrations of 77 years of publication of this weekly newspaper which has been the voice of the Goans since 1933. Well wishers and patrons congregated at the Ravindra Bhavan Auditorium at Margao in huge numbers this week to join in the happiness of the Pilar fathers who made it possible for this newspaper to survive through so many decades. The hall was jam packed and many had to return home as even the aisles were packed with people sitting on the floor. Newspapers continue to be an integral part of our lives. They educate and influence; they entertain and delight; they provoke and inspire debate. They help us make informed decisions on how we should be governed and provide us with the fundamental information to shape the future of our society and our lives. Every newspaper that is born and comes to be circulated has to face cut throat competition and all other social and political pressures. Let me not at this moment refer to English dailies and weeklies which were in print for sometime and had to shut down for various reasons. I am sure most of you must be familiar with Konkani papers such as Novem Goem and Uzvadd. I really do not know why - but these are papers which have stopped being in circulation a long time ago. Every Editor who comes out with a paper at its initial circulation does so because he has a burning desire to convey to readers some message or world view. I think we all need to collectively congratulate all those editors past and present of the Vavraddeanxho Ixtt for ensuring the uninterrupted and continuous publication of this weekly paper. The philosophy and spirit of the Vavraddeancho Ixtt as its name suggests is a people's paper -- the voice of the toiling class. With a circulation of over 12,000 copies to its regular subscribers, this weekly is also read on the website by many others within and outside this country. What is it that has kept this paper alive, growing and ticking in the hearts of so many well wishers? While many papers which started so zealously have been forced to close down what is it that has kept the membership of this paper growing? The answer is very simple -- this is a paper that has responded to change and has therefore remained relevant to its readers. Survival of anything and especially a newspaper as we all know is dependent on ones capacity to adapt to changing environments and needs. News reports and features of this weekly have always been such as to catch the eye and mind of the reader. The print media industry, like all competitively pressurised industries, must adapt, evolve and change. That is exactly what has been done by all those responsible for the circulation, publishing and management of this newspaper. While ensuring that current and relevant news reports are published, the editors of this newspaper have always taken the side of people on relevant issues that concern all of us Goans who want to see our state grow for the benefit of all. Out of curiosity I did do an exercise of trying to put my hands on old issues and some of the current issues of this weekly. We are all familiar with the struggle of the Ramponkars in the late 1970s and the early 1980s. It was a movement the kind of which was taken up by one and all. The whole of the goan society stood behind this class of people. The state of Goa rocked because of certain injustices meted out to this exploited and helpless community. There were no divisions as we see today. Interestingly the Vavraddeancho Ixtt which was in its fourth decade of publishing took up this issue and gave it wide coverage. I would certainly not be wrong if I stated that this newspaper was one of those who contributed in the success of the ramponkar movement at that time. Looking through more recent issues it is heartening to see that this weekly paper has remained relevant simply because it has responded to the current events and related historical facts truthfully. All of us can safely endorse that this is one paper which has never had even 1% of yellow journalism or any kind of cheap reporting. This is exactly why subscribers have remained loyal and kept their subscriptions alive. The Vavraddeancho Ixtt has remained a paper that has covered issues from land grab to falling employment, from environmental degradation to concerns of democratic and human rights violations, from food and water scarcity to the failing and falling public distribution system. In the spider web of facts, many a truth gets strangled. News
Re: [Goanet] Saturday Night Club
r wrote: r - Goan, American citizen (Spread the word. Quick.) r, Can you try and explain to us why you would take up citizenship of India when you are offered only a second class Indian citizenship? Lets see, there are citizens of India who have unrestricted rights and others who are offered only some rights. Why on earth would a person be willing to accept a second class citizenship of any country? Mervyn1151Lobo __ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet] MILAGRINCHO KHURIS - VATT (MIRACULOUS CROSS - THE WAY)
Hi Dominic Thanks for sharing this beautiful educational information. Eustaquio
Re: [Goanet] GT(11.1.10) Pg12 Spread
It is heartening to see all our favourite Goans who are working hard in their own ways to shore up the standards of GOA in every possible respect while working/slogging elsewhere, spread out colourfully on Page 12 of the Gomantak Times. Indeed, the right to vote in Goa's/India's elections is the step forward especially when their contributions to the State and the Nation stand high on the economic, social and cultural graph. The only pride of larger belongingness is the right to VOTE when one is a part and parcel of one's State and the Country. We welcome the euphoria forthcoming from them all on this special point of interest and hope that this declaration by our esteemed Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh will fructify into reality, soon. For long, it has been 'CONTRIBUTE' with 'NO SAY' in how the State and the Nation is run. This has to change for a forward looking State of Goa and the Nation on the Superpower Highway. Hopefully it will. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS: It is a welcome sights to see who is who of the forward looking Goan for Goa. PPS: Goa's Need of the Hour.What's Zat??? . Vote count in the positive direction???
Re: [Goanet] Proud to be a Goan, I am an Indian first
Venantius wrote: Also none of that stoning dogs crap we see in India, and so forth. RESPONSE: News reports The stray dog that is believed to have bitten several people in Panaji on Tuesday died on Friday while in the custody of the Panjim Animal Welfare Society (PAWS), raising fears that it could have had rabies. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Dog-that-went-on-biting-spree-in-Panaji-dies/articleshow/5425433.cms DOG POPULATION GONE ASTRAY BY DR ROSARIO MENEZES It has been conclusively established that, in India, it is the stray dogs infesting public areas that are responsible for transmitting the rabies infection. India is perhaps one of the few nations in the world which permits stray dogs to infest roads, market places and beaches, giving precedence to dogs over human life and safety. As a consequence, India has acquired the infamous and shameful reputation of contributing to the highest number of deaths from rabies in the world - one death from rabies every thirty minutes, according to a report by APCRI/National Institute of Communicable Diseases. http://goanobserver.com/ (Jan 2-8, 2010) - B
[Goanet] Drugs and more ... a report from Goa (Gomantak Times)
Drugs and more There are no drugs in Goa, stated Home Minister Ravi Naik on national television, a few days ago. On Thursday night a freelance journalist went undercover for a party held in Sangolda, and came back with this story which shows that the Home Minister is oblivious to what is happening in the State. BEING a non-party animal, those at the entrance to the open-party club must have seen right through me as I was initially prevented from entering the Russian Christmas party. A freelance journalist, I reached the venue along with my other media colleagues at 10pm only to see the Anti Narcotics Cell (ANC) officials in civil clothes and police personnel in khaki. When I inquired, the men in khaki mentioned that they were present to check the sound level of the music being played inside the club. Us journalists detached ourselves from each other and proceeded to enter the club. The revelry was yet to begin and in the meantime, the tickets were being sold at Rs 1200 per couple. Unfortunately, after seeing a group of camerapersons, some people got suspicious and we heard of plans to cancel and even postpone the party to 2 am. I don't think the party will move on, we heard one taxi-diver tell another in the spacious parking lot. The scene outside grew pale as the news of the presence of camerapersons spread. Interestingly we were being trailed by atleast two unknown persons wherever we went. Finally, one of the locals came on record to say that if the media had come to detect drugs availability at the party, they were indeed mistaken. The local man claimed that the allegation of freely available drugs was totally baseless. When we pressed to enter into the club, the organisers had no choice but to let us in to witness the party. We were escorted straight to the enclosed dance floor. But we weren't satisfied with the dance floor and wanted to tour the entire place. So we walked outside and saw the party poopers, mostly foreigners smoking and boozing while another corner had petty vegetarian and non-vegetarian stalls erected to serve their customers. Then, two journalists -- one of whom had a small video camera -- saw two foreigners inhaling something that was in white powder form, cut into lines on a wooden strip in a small lawn. It was a scene straight from a movie. But by the time the ANC cops could be located, they had already finished with the powder and vanished. So, we walked to another part of the club only to see the dealing of drugs taking place clandestinely. A man, perhaps a local was selling a packet of drugs to foreigners and we, in the dim light around the venue managed to see him accepting a few money notes We then proceeded to the terrace of the club where around 10-14 tables were placed for its customers with hookahs or shishas on each table. When one of the journalists tried to click a picture with his mobile phone, a bouncer immediately stopped the journo, citing that it disturbed the customers and it was against the club's orders to take pictures. Very convenient! Amusingly, the party had the notice 'no drugs' glued to every corner of the club but the activities taking place were obviously contrary to the sign. Amidst this, ANC sleuths nabbed a couple of guys, suspecting drugs built failed to find any, which would mean that they caught the wrong guys. The raid team with one female officer could not detect the drugs consumption inspite of being trained to do so. Foreigners licking cigarettes and sniffing powder were not a rare sight at the party. We are identifiable by the people here -- they know us -- that is why they hide the drugs whenever we search them, defended a field officer also present at the party. What was most appalling was that the police jeeps parked in the parking lot with police officers were also helpless in cracking the game. When a journo informed the officer about the happenings in the club, he confirmed to send his men but in vain. Being hounded While the party was yet to begin, a man in his 40s approached my friend and I, inviting one of us to join him as his partner. He introduced himself as a party freak and a native of Delhi. He mentioned that he was staying in Goa for over four months and running a private business. We told him we were waiting for our respective boyfriends but the man insisted we join him if they didn't turn up. The middle-aged man even agreed to pay my entrance fee. While you wait for your boyfriends, why don't you enter with me and have a few drinks, he suggested. Whisky or beer? he questioned. I prefer breezer, I replied. When my friend said, Damn it man, no drugs, the man who knew what he was talking about quickly replied, Andar milega (it's available inside). We escaped from the spot and entered the venue with our friends. The lonely man
Re: [Goanet] Double Standards in Western press
The police have not been complacent. And Aussie police are rarely complacent, despite their hands being tied down by do-gooders and civil-libertarians. All they did was state that any racial motives were yet to be established. And that was the distorted sentence played upon by the cartoonist. Given that the attackers have yet to be identified and apprehended, how can a police officer of any rank be sure that the attack on Nitin was racially motivated? Isn't it racist to 'presume' the race of unidentified criminals? Given that Nitin was walking down a dark alley-way in the late hours of the night, would the attack be likely to be racially-motivated or more likely by some drug-addled idiots looking for a source for their next shot? What do you think would happen to you if you said to those drug-addled youths that you had no money on you? I don't understand your statement Now the Indians who live down-under can sleep better, especailly if they have a White Australian girlfriend / boyfriend / mistress. What do you mean exactly? And please do not quote me out of context - that last line is very mischievous in its placement. I presume the trend is similar in other parts of the world relates to the overall growth in crime rates - not to Indian attacks. Now the question arises - why do these attacks mostly happen in the western suburbs of Melbourne? Why not in the eastern suburbs where there has been a sizeable Indian/Sri Lankan population for years living in peace with their neighbours? Where there is an Indian temple on extensive grounds? I would draw you attention to the following article - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/look-to-the-east-for-solutions-to-violence-against-indians/story-e6frfhqf-1225818209157 . Please note also that before this sudden large influx of Indians in Melbourne, there have been a lot of Sri Lankan, Bangladeshi and Fijian Indians coming to Melbourne. There was never any trouble. Till now. So what changed? Attitudes of the newcomers? Is it because the previous settlers were professionals and had families and had experience of where to live whereas the newcomers live where costs are the cheapest? What happens when you move to a cheap suburb? What sort of demographic live in cheap suburbs according to you? Do you think only Indians are targetted in these cheap suburbs, or anyone who is perceived as having cash on them? How may non-Indians have faced the same sort of attacks in recent times in these suburbs? Ah! the latter never make it into the Indian or international papers, do they? Gabriel. - Original Message From: Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Mon, 11 January, 2010 10:20:32 AM Subject: [Goanet] Double Standards in Western press I think you have missed the point of the post and the cartoon. Just because it is an Indian on Indian (or in USA a black on black) crime, it is no reason for the police to be complacent. The victims of crimes are victims, irrespective of the perpetrator and whether the victims are Indian, White or any other ethnic group. The point of my post, was the Indian newspaper's witty and pointed message of the cartoon, (no pun intended) regarding the response of the Australian police, was taken as an affront by the Australian cabinet minister. No such luck when cartoons in the Western media distort and / or offend the ethnic or religious sensitivities of other groups / nationalities. If one believes in freedom of the press, the minister should have stayed out of the reporting of a free-press. I guess we know when and where the shoe bites. Thanks for telling us the crimes against Indians were perpetrated by other Indians. Now the Indians who live down-under can sleep better, especailly if they have a White Australian girlfriend / boyfriend / mistress. Regards, GL --- Gabriel de Figueiredo Some of the news don't mention the nationalities/origins of the attackers when they do mention the nationalities/origins of the victims as Indians, which can cause a distortion in understanding the motives behind some of the attacks. There was an Indian attacked in one of my friends' neighbourhood, which was reported in the local press - later transpired that the attackers were themselves other Indians, who had had prior altercations earlier on. I presume the trend is similar in other parts of the world. __ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/
[Goanet] Colva, CD and all that
Platitudes apart, one should know that any form of violence especially the one instigated by people holding political, temporal or spiritual powers is seriously taken note of by universal jurisprudence. eg. post WW2 Nuremberg trials, International Court of Justice at The Hague, Netherlands,
[Goanet] Moderation of posts on GoaNet
I full heartedly add my support to Bosco for his commitment to Goa and Goans. I also agree that Persons like Mario Govea do not appear to have the interests of Goa and Goans at heart and persist in their negative comments to towards those of us who do . Although I do not begrudge Mario of his right to air his views, he does not come up with any constructive ideas nor any concrete solutions to any of the problems currently affecting Goa but rather criticizes the efforts of people like Bosco who do and are committed to the welfare of Goa and Goans. Keep up the good work Bosco. Every little step we take towards making Goa a better place for Goans, is a step towards victory in the battle to save Goa. Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares.
[Goanet] NEWS: Gulf NRIs air their problems, suggestions at diaspora meet
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/gulf-nris-air-their-problems-suggestions-at-diaspora-meet_100301366.html Gulf NRIs air their problems, suggestions at diaspora meet January 9th, 2010 - 7:41 pm ICT by IANS Tell a Friend - Shashi Tharoor New Delhi, Jan 9 (IANS) Taking overseas Indians into consideration in the government’s divestment process and creating Islamic-finance friendly projects to attract Gulf investments were among the various suggestions overseas Indians from the Gulf made to the government Friday. At a session on “Indians and the Gulf: Gulf Session” held on the third and concluding day of the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas (PBD) 2010, the annual conclave of the Indian diaspora here, prominent members of the Indian community in the region voiced their problems and suggestions in the presence of three ministers - Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs Vayalar Ravi, Minister of State for External Affairs Shashi Tharoor and Minister of State for Railways E. Ahamed. United Arab Emirates (UAE) based EMKE Group’s managing director Yusuff Ali M.A. set the tone by suggesting that the government hold the next edition of mini-PBD - the smaller version of PBD that is held abroad every year - in the Gulf. “Let the government decide on the venue and we Indians in the Gulf will fully help in its organisation,” he said. He also requested the government to take overseas Indians into consideration in the government’s divestment process. Chairman and managing director of Qatar’s Behzad Group of Companies C.K. Menon said that Gulf nations were sitting on huge investible funds and were looking to put this money in emerging economies. “But they want to invest this money in projects that are Sharia-friendly,” Menon said. “Many countries in the West have already modified their financial systems in such a way that these are Sharia-friendly. In India too, such a system needs to be created,” he added. Managing director of Oman’s Galfar Engineering and Contracting Mohamed Ali dwelt on the issue of illegal Indian workers in the Gulf and their plight. “They land up there through illegal recruiting agents in India and then find that were not getting what they had gone there for. So, they illegally seek work in some other companies and end up getting virtually enslaved,” Ali said. “We need to have a system from the Indian end that will require every worker going abroad to report to the Indian missions there,” he said. Director of the UAE’s ETA Ascon Star Group Syed M. Salahuddin sought the government’s help in setting up better schools for Indian students in the Gulf. “Out there education is nothing but a business. We need to have schools that charge low fees and impart good education. Maybe the government can help create a fund from which salaries of teachers can be paid,” he suggested. President of Saudi Arabia’s Pravasi Rehabilitation Centre K.M. Naushad requested the government to look into the possibility of a bilateral pact with the Saudi government that covered all aspects of labour so that problems of Indian labourers are mitigated. “Also, attestation of employment contracts by Indian missions must be made mandatory,” he added. Earlier, addressing the gathering, Ahamed said that India should formulate its foreign policy with the Gulf countries keeping the Indians there in mind. On his part, Tharoor said that India would not take Gulf countries for granted. “Precisely because we have no problems in our ties with the Gulf, we should not let it slip into complacency,” he said. Significantly, of the six concurrent sessions held Friday, only the Gulf session was region-specific, the others being thematic. There are five million expatriate Indians living in six Gulf nations.
[Goanet] Goanet] Who is a Goan
I detest the attitude of Tony De Sa when he considers NRG's pontificating from comfort zones which reeks of Jealousy. Does he mean to say that NRG's do not have the interest of Goa at heart or is he one of those who condones the status quo and does not advocate for change in routing out corruption and stemming the march of illegal mining, deforestation and squatters from totally ruining the whole of Goa. He seems to be quite content with the situation but I and persons like me ( NRG's) will not stand by idly see the ruin of goa and not at least instigate our Goan brothers and sisters to action to protect our beloved Goa and preserving our unique heritage. Tony, it would seem, has surrendered to the forces of destruction. I personally feel that if I can motivate Tony and others like him to take up the challenge and organize grass roots movements to stem corruption by voting in honest and selfless politicians to parliament, I will have achieved something as a proud Goan. Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares
[Goanet] Samir and his problems with Rajan's citizenship
Furthermore, this work is ongoing, we expect to enlist young, energetic Panjim folks to the cause. It is remarkable how much influence an opportunistic American can wield in Goa if he wants to, when he wants to. Which cause ? Iraq or Afghanistan ? Sure, in expectation of US citizenship, some able-bodied young Goans would be willing to join up to become bakaras. Btw, when we are on the topic, how about giving some business to Goan coffin makers for making coffins for Iraq and Afghanistan? Good coffins made of sturdy ponos (Jackfruit)! Surely, it will show the I can attitude of Goans. Viva Uncle Sam! Viva America!!! samir
[Goanet] China's March
China's March! (see web link) Will India keep up with China? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/world/asia/12china.html?exprod=myyahoo Regards, GL
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Some Pics
Brand New, 6 of them ( Dec/Jan. 2009/10) Rs. 75 lacs each http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258804620/sizes/l/ a mini barge? A cross and a bungalow in the woods http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258804620/sizes/l/ This one take you to ‘Chodna’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258048361/sizes/l/ another view http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258805428/sizes/l/ The two parallel to each other Or From Tiswadi to Bardez or vice versa http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258047385/sizes/l/ this one tell you where you are http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258772020/sizes/l/ this way to Bird Sanctuary http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258048929/sizes/l/ the right is the ‘bokem’ and to the left is the ‘Divallechi Igorg’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk22/4258049551/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Soth Uloi
Anthony bab, Soth Uloi hea Konknni satolleachi koslich mahiti aiz mellpak muskil astolem. Asiatic Library-nt tea satolleacheo porti topasche khatir 1999 vorsa hanv gel'lom ten'na porian hea satolleachi ekui proti thoim nasli. Ani hich got herui porgottnneanchi zalea. Mhoje failint hea satolleache ek don ank asat. Zai zalear scan korun email korum yetat. Fausto Dear Sirs, ? I chanced upon some articles on konkani. ? My father's name is Santan J. Fernandes who was editor of the weekly Soth Uloi. I would like to know more on this archive. There is nothing much information I can obtain from the Govt. site ? Can you guide me on this matter. ? Thanks and regard ? Anthony ? ??? ?Registrar of Newspapers for India
[Goanet] Moderation of posts on GoaNet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:25:28 -0500 From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net Although I do not begrudge Mario of his right to air his views, he does not come up with any constructive ideas nor any concrete solutions to any of the problems currently affecting Goa but rather criticizes the efforts of people like Bosco who do and are committed to the welfare of Goa and Goans. Mario asks: Manuel, I have given many concrete solutions over the years to address the mess in Goa. The most recent one is for the local Goans to quit thumping their chests about being more-Goan-than-the-rest-of-us and decide what needs to be done and by whom. No one cares about your Goanese-ness, how proud you are to be born by chance, and how many jobs you all have created in Karnataka. Bloviating without concrete action only adds to the greenhouse gases that are causing the earth to cool since 1998. BTW, can you cite me an example where I have criticized Bosco on Goanet? If you are citing some other forum will you please post my complete comments in proper context? Can you also give us a couple of examples of what exactly you have done for Goa? Thanks.
[Goanet] TSKK Awards
THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR B.B.Borkar Road Alto Porvorim, Goa - 403 521 Phone (0832) 2415857, 2415864 Email:tskk...@gmail.com email%3atskk...@gmail.com Sir, Kindly give publicity to the following press release. Thanking you, Pratap Naik, S.J. Director Cell:09850658565 TSKK AWARDS This year Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK) will honor the veteran Konknni writer of medical literature Dr. Bicaji Ganecar as the twentieth recipient of TSKK’s prestigious Antonio Pereira Konknni Puroskar (APKP). Dr. Bicaji Ganecar will receive this award for the year 2010 for his valuable contribution to Konknni literature in the field of medical literature in Devanagari and Roman script. The award consists of a shawl, memento and cash Rs. 25,000/-. Dr. Bicaji Ganekar was born on 20th of June 1942 at Panaji, Goa. He completed his studies in medical field (MEDICO CIRURGIAO) in 1966 from Panaji. He has worked as Medical Officer to Deputy Director of Health Services at Campal, Panaji from 1968 to 2000. He has written 22 Konknni books which include poems, stories, medical dictionary and health issues. He has also translated one book. Some of the important books are Tumchi Bholaiki Tumchea Hatant, Dream Flower, Goa in Lighter Vein, Ranfulam, Sorkos, etc. Dr. Bicaji held many responsible positions in Goan society. He has served as the President of Goa Cultural Social Center for 8 years. He was a secretary of Konkani Bhasha Mandal for 3 years and also a member of Kala Academy for 3 years. He has been delivering medical talks from All India Radio since 1963. He is an approved lyricist for All India Radio songs, musical features from Goa and Doordarshan poems. He gas written many articles on Health in Navhind Times, Sunaparant, Gomantak, V. IXTT, Gulab and Dor Mhoineachi Rotti. Every year TSKK gives an award *Konknni Martir Floriano Vaz Puroskar* for the best Konknni book of the calendar year written in Roman script. For the year 2009 *Jinnechi Vatt*, essay book of Br. John M. Alfonso from Loliem, Goa has been selected. He is a member of Goa – Karnataka Province of the Carmelite order. He regularly writes to various Konknni journals. He has written two Konknni books. At present he is doing his theology studies at St. Joseph Seminary, Mangalore. The award consists of a memento, citation and cash Rs. 5,000/-. The award giving function will be held on Wednesday 27 January 2010 at TSKK premises at sharp 5pm. At this occasion Mr Aaron Jack Fernandes, a XI standard student from Salcete will be given Lourenço Umbelina scholarship. Fr Conçesão D’Silva, the Parish Priest of Carambolim will be the Chief Guest and will confer both the awards and Lourenço Umbelina de Souza scholarship. The function is open for the public. All are cordially invited for the function.
[Goanet] Poltodcho Munis in 2009's best 101 films
Poltodcho Munis in 2009's best 101 films HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JAN 11 Poltodcho Munis (The Man Beyond the Bridge), the Konkani film that won an award at the prestigious Toronto Film Festival and accolades worldwide, has made it to the 101 best movies of the world released in 2009, its co-producers, Entertainment Network of Goa (ENG), has said. It said that the website www.film101.com had compiled the list, which has James Cameron's Avatar atop it. The film was produced by the National Film Development Corporation (NFDC), after its script, by Goan filmmaker Laxmikant Shetgaonkar, was selected during the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), 2006. Film 101 is a database of the best movies picked up by critics and filmmakers worldwide, ENG president Paresh Shetgaonkar said in a press note. Cheers - Mario F. D' Costa
[Goanet] Daily Grook #606
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[Goanet] Ref. Archbishop's letter.
Much has been said and written in protest of recent acts of vandalism and arson at Colva precipitated and perpetuated by some of the Parish Council members. The Archbishop has released a letter to all parishes in South Goa, the contents of which are minced well to make it easier if he has to eat them later. The concerned CD nowhere warranted the need to protect faith, reputation or the shepherds. There was nothing against any religion, as even the learned Judge observed. A reputation does not get tarnished unless the cap fits you. And as far as protecting shepherds are concerned, Goan memory is still live to the murder of one, and the acquittal of the perpetrators of the crime for which the church authorities did not even Appeal. It surely was protecting, but whom? CDs, tiatrs, movies, etc., are not made with sole intention of exposing art. They are a means of communication to the reach out to the masses, whether literate or illiterate. And the arson and vandalism that followed has boosted the CD awareness to all the corners of the world. Commending the Parish Council for spearheading what they did instead of condemning, disciplining and expelling them is a shame on the whole community. Holding public at ransom for more than a day by way of a forced ‘bundh’ is criminal. The Supreme Court not long ago had made the organiser of a ‘bundh’ pay for the losses incurred to the public due to forced ‘bundh’. In this case it is clear that the Parish Council organised it and the victims were the tourists, hotels, taxis, businessmen, residents, etc. Anyone of them can file for compensation from the organisers. If the CD is defamatory, why not file a defamation suit? It will do well as the truth will prevail and the community will be made aware where they were wrong. If not, people will be inclined to believe the CD as true, and all this farcical cover-ups exposed. There is a wise saying:-“When you are in light, everything will follow you. But when you enter dark, even your own shadow will not follow you”. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
Re: [Goanet] Antonio Lobo seeks to get re-elected at Bar Council polls - Comments
Antonio Lobo seeks to get re-elected at Bar Council polls NT: 11.1.10 Pg: 7 MAPUSA: Mr Antonio Lobo from Mapusa is seeking re-election to the bar council of Maharashtra and Goa for which elations were held on Friday in various courts in Maharashtra and Goa. At the Mapusa court the head clerk was the returning officer. There are altogether 1,30,000 voters in Maharashtra and Goa from which there are 3000 'eligible' voters in Goa. In Mapusa, however, just 260 voters exercised their franchise. In Goa there are two candidates contesting for the bar council, Mr Antonio Lobo from Mapusa and Mr. M.S. Joshi. The elections are held every five years,. The results will be declared in Mumbai next month. Mr. Antonio Lobo has been the first candidate to be elected from Goa ever since the bar council has been formed 45 years back. Mr. Lobo has claimed that ever since he was elected five years back he has to his credit many achievements, making available enrolment sanad forms in his office for the new entrants in law, otherwise these forms were earlier made available in Mumbai. Comments: Adv. Antonio Lobo is the architect of the 'Constitution' of the Goa Su-Raj Party. The Party's 'Road Map for Goa' which is the permanent 'manifesto' of the Party wouldn't be what it is if it was not for his tremendous effort and time taken out from his otherwise busy schedule. Adv. Antonio Lobo is the Executive member of the Goa Su-Raj Party. The Party wishes him well in the above elections. floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS: Adv. Antonio Lobo was one of the 'founding' members of the now extinct Goa's regional party 'Gomant Loxh Poxh' PPS: Goa's Need of the Hour.What's Zat???
[Goanet] Six Goans recommended for Padma
Six Goans recommended for Padma HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JAN 11 Noted educationist Fr Romualdo de Souza and historian Shrirang Pandurang Kamat figure prominently in the names recommended by the State for Padma awards. The state-level committee headed by Chief Secretary S K Srivastava has recommended four names to the Union Home Ministry for Padma Shree awards. These include Marathi literary personality Prof Gopalrao Mayekar, social worker Ramkrishna Naik besides Fr Romualdo and Kamat. For Padmabhushan, two names are recommended late industrialist Vishwasrao Chowgule and noted neurosurgeon Dr P Ramani. While Chowgule played an important role in the mining industry, Dr Ramani is active in social work and education. Fr Romualdo founded Goa Institute of Management. It may be recalled that three years ago pop-star Remo Fernandes was awarded Padma Shree on the recommendation of the State government. Cheers - Mario F. D' Costa
