Re: [Goanet] NANDKUMAR's Rs 1000 CRORE SANDY MISTAKE
Carmen said: "I am trully puzzled by what is going on in his mind at the moment." comment:Nandkumar's mistake is that has not joined the club of social entrepreneurs of Goa. This is why his behaviour is puzzling. Floriano has diagnosed fever. There is a virus affecting Goa's non-social entrepreneurs which is called 'Floriria'. I have also been diagnosed of that sickeness on goanet. -Soter
Re: [Goanet] Chauvinism V/s Patriotism - Adv. Radharao Gracias - Herald - June 25, 2010 - Comments
Chauvinisam V/s Patriotism - By Adv. Radharao F. Gracias Our self-belief in our greatness is unfounded, and is the cause of India's downfall, says Adv. Radharao F. Gracias. It was sometime at the beginning of the 19th century that a soldier in the French Emperor Napoleon's army, when asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched against its neighbours, gave the classic reply: "My Country, therefore right" (later modified as: "My country, right or wrong"). The soldier's name was Eduardo Chauvin (not Faleiro). He gave the world and entirely new concept: 'chauvinism' As a people, we Indians seem to have the highest regard for Chauvin: we have mastered the art of Chauvinism. If chauvinism were to be declared as a sport, India would sweep all the medals at the Olympics. A symptom of our chauvinism is apparent in the oft repeated slogan 'Mara Bharat Mahaan' (My India is great). The question arises; is it really so? There hasn't been too much greatness about our country, not in the last two thousand years or so. Our history is nothing a record of invasions, conquests, subjugations and enslavement. Perhaps no other country has been the victim of as many invasions and conquests as India. The Huns, Scythians, Parthians, Greeks, Mongols ... all simply marched into the country, pillaged and ransacked it. We did not give any cause for invasions, as we attacked no one. The invaders came simply because we could not defend ourselves,. What prevented us from defending ourselves against foreign invaders? As a consequence of our cowardice and failure to defend ourselves, invaders marched in at will and marched out with booty and tens of thousands of Indian slaves. The poor, underfed vegetarians from the plains were driven ruthlessly over the mountains of Afghanistan, where they died "like flies". The mountains themselves came to be known as the Hindu Kush range, which does not mean 'Hindu happy'; it means 'Hindu killer' in the local language. Geographically, the country was by far the most defensible against the battle technology available in those days. The Himalayas form a hug bulwark towards the north. No invader crossed the Himalayas into India, until China in 1961. The eastern borders with Burma are rugged , forested hills. No invader came from the East till the Japanese conquered Kohima during World War II. The South has a vast ocean around it. No invader entered from the sea till Afonso Albuquerque conquered Goa in 1510. All previous invasions into the country were overland from the West. There were just two routes of entry: the Bolan Pass and the Khyber Pass, which is about 134 km long and, in places, just three meters wide. However, it never occurred to our countrymen to fortify these two passes and permanently block access into the country. In this context, I am reminded of the designer advertisements being released by the Indian Army inviting youngsters to join the army. They are couched in the language that practically seems to suggest that the Indian Army is a five star hotel with all sorts of facilities for those who join it. But, despite such enticing advertisements, the army is short of as many as 14,000 army officers. Can you beat that? I have seen how when the Government of Goa announced vacancies for posts of police sub inspectors (PSIs), thousands of Goans apply. Some are known to have paid up to Rs. 15 lakh to be selected. I understand that shortly, another batch of sub inspectors is to be recruited, and the asking price has reportedly touched Rs. 25 lakh. Mark my words, there will be hundreds seeking to pull strings and willing to pay the amount needed to be selected. But none of these applicants for PSIs would go anywhere near an army selection camp, where they would be gladly and freely selected. hat's our patriotism. I often wonder about the Sangh Parivar, which day in and night out talks of patriotism. The RSS itself claims a membership of over 2.5 crore cadre, who dress in khaki and are frequently seen marching in military formation. The Bajrang Dal, Sri. Ram Sena and the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) have tough-looking volunteers who unleashed their 'patriotism' in Gujarat, Karnataka and, not very long ago, at Fontainhas, in Panjim. So, presumably, the Sangh Parivar is full of young energetic countrymen willing to defend the country's honour. That being so, why does the RSS and its sister organizations not hold caps of its 'patriotic' sevaks and call upon the army to select from its cadre? The army should easily be able to enroll 14,000 officers from among the 2.5 crore swayam-sevaks. It is time that the Sangh Parivar cadres display their patriotism on the Indo-Pak border! Our self-belief in our greatness is unfounded, and is the cause of our downfall. We do not become great through self-proclamation. The rest of the world has to acknowledge our greatness. No one does so. There is not a single f
[Goanet] Daily Grook #737
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Re: [Goanet] The Distorted Vision Of Our Freedom Fighters In Goa
Dearest Freddy. All the bravado of the freedom struggle apart, wonder if you ever asked people who lived in Goa's important towns/close to important installations what the situation was in December 1961? Perhaps you were around at that time. I was too little to wear pants that year but remember the tension, of the Indian soldiers coming. Apparently there were b*mb^ bl*sts. I went around recently in Vasco and some border areas asking people what their life was like, what they did, what happened (towards a planned project)different reactions. Some fascinating stories of intrigue, some stories of Goan unity, brotherhood and caring while there were others that said, it was business as usual. However, one universal answer to questions on the freedom fighters: they were never around, who were they? Their presence was, was absent. They only showed up after the Indian army has firm control. Later, when the economic benefits became evident, I guess many more simply appeared. There is also a story of how a Goan family hid a Portuguese officer who in an unused tank for three days and a wooden plan over him. He got on to the last plane to Lisbon and many years later, wrote back to the family (who themselves left their home and were taken in by a Goan family who opened their home to everyone. So freedom f*ghtersI take them with a pinch of salt. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Freddy Fernandes wrote: > The Distorted Vision Of Our Freedom Fighters In Goa > > > > All over the world freedom fighters are well respected and recognised by their > institutions and are given special status and privileges for their dedication > and sacrifices, the freedom struggle was the key that slammed the doors on > oppression and opened the doors to freedom. A lot of freedom fighters have > lost > their lives, some were in prison for years, others lucky to be alive and free. > > > > Goa after a being ruled by the Portuguese for over 400 years, was finally free > of foreign rule for which many of the brave freedom fighter who are alive > today > are being honoured by the Government and special privileges have been bestowed > unto them and rightly so, though the credibility of our freedom fighters has > been somewhat tarnished because at the time of the so called liberation there > were unknown number of criminals in jail, who now claim to be freedom > fighters, > as they were all released from jail after the so called liberation, so the > presence of freeloaders among the actual freedom fighters is a clear > possibility > too. > > > > Every year the 18th of June has been celebrated as the Goa Revolution Day, and > every year our politicians are seen felicitating our freedom fighters, but is > the work of the freedom fighters done and finished with ? Was it for the > prevailing present, that they had fought for, the sacrifices they had made > for ? > > > > > During the time when Indira Gandhi imposed Emergency, freedom fighters like > Jayprakash Narayan blew the bugle of war against Indira for turning India > into a > dictatorial power from the democratic setup. He fought bravely and was again > put > behind bars, where he was treated like a mere criminal, but it did not break > his > resolve and kept on the fight. What do we see in Goa ? Our so called freedom > fighter are more interested in getting rid of the Portuguese names, is that > what > they fought for ? Does changing of names, gives us the actual freedom ? I am > happy that atleast one of them had the courage to speak against the Casino > culture, but are they all blind to see the depravity and the corruption that > is > thriving in their beloved Goa, that they fought for ? Why is it that not a > single freedom fighter is raising his voice against the dire effects of > mining, > on our ecology, environment and the lives of their fellow brethren ? Or are > they > so desperate for the goodies that the Government throws at them, that they > fail > to see the reality around them ? > > > > Politicians and bureaucrats in Goa are on a rampage tearing and selling ever > bit > of Goa, not thinking of the posterity or even the immediate future. They are > not > worried about improving the quality of life of Goans and infact doing their > best > to make life of Goans even more difficult. Corruption and crime are runaway > monsters spreading faster and wider than a cosmic explosion. Is this what our > freedom fighters had fought for ? > > > > With all due respect for their efforts and sacrifices during the freedom > struggle, they should at least gave the guts to say to our inapt and corrupt > government that the prevailing depravity and corruption was not what they had > fought for. Our politicians are certainly making a mockery of the lives and > sacrifices of our freedom fighters and yet they fail to see it, unfortunately > the vision of our freedom fighters has been distorted and needs to be reverted > or else their fight for freedom will be in vain and we'll
Re: [Goanet] To SB re GWS ANNUAL GENERAL BODY MEETING - REPORT
Dear Dr. Jose Colaco, Many thanks for your message. It is commendable that you are trying to defend one of your best friends, as such friends who come to your aid in times of need are hard to come by. I can only wish you luck. But I have no such mission, since I do even know personally any of the persons involved. And my opinion is based on whatever I can recollect having read on the issue in the recent past. Let me also clarify that I have not seen the advertisement. When you say "IF Gaspar is wrong, he is wrong. BUT, if he is NOT wrong, I know that you will join me in saying so" you are only stating a truism because it applies to each one of us, including the opponents of Almeida. But we must have some proof of his innocence in this matter. Thus far, we have only accusations thrown at him. Unfortunately, he is not coming forward with his defence; he has just clammed shut. All that we have is his friends waxing eloquent on his qualities of heart and the good work he does / has done in the past. But this is just diversionary, and has absolutely no bearing on the case as, to my mind, even a saint is liable to commit errors. And, when Almeida's best friends give hints of misdemeanor on his part, one may suspect that a more grave error must have been committed. To your query whether "3 DAYS was enough time to revise the advert" my answer would be in the negative, because I would need to know the reasons for the delay of 3 HUNDRED+ DAYS. I might want to know about the event that occurred THREE or FOUR days prior to the APPEARANCE of the advert which prompted Almeida to effect the handing over. Was it done with the sole intention of scotching the publication of the advert? If yes, that would point to dishonesty. Moreover, you have not mentioned details of the handing over like TO WHOM the things were handed over, in WHOSE presence, under WHOSE direction / supervision etc. The POIXE part is the most intriguing. From what has appeared on the net, I find that the Almeida team was in office for at least a couple of years before the Coelho team was duly elected. And the Incoming team claims that the Outgoing team has been holding on to the records (which, to my mind, would include Bank accounts) for at least a year. Therefore, would it be wrong to assume that it is the Almeida team which is holding on to the POIXE? You claim to have seen the record of things that were handed over; did this include the POIXE too? The Almeida team too must have operated Bank accounts of GWS funds. In which Banks, and in whose names, were the accounts operated? Do you find that the irregularities that you mention existed during Almeida's tenure too? If yes, what steps were taken by Almeida's team to correct them? In pursuance of your brief, you seem to be trying to shift the maximum possible, if not the entire, blame from Secretary Almeida to HIS President. You are probably quoting law books when you say, (a) "Responsibility for ANY action or inaction lies MAINLY with the President, not solely with the Secretary," and (b) "Tradition has nothing to do with the presentation of Audited accounts at an AGM. IF any team has NOT provided them (Audited accounts), the President should be slammed." I do not know how many law books the founders and past / present office-bearers of GWS have read. But I do know that in many organizations it is the Secretary who calls all the shots, the President being just a figure-head. You could have consulted your friend on this aspect to know the exact situation prevailing in the GWS. Moreover, it is nobody's case that Secretary Almeida flouted the directions of HIS President; nor does Almeida claim that he withheld the records for an inordinately long time under directions of HIS President. It is also not stated that he finally handed over the things following or flouting the directions of his President. And if, as you say, the GWS is unlikely to be "put back on rails", I would not want to waste my time on this issue. But until the final word is said, I think, we can hope for the best. Sincerely, Sebastian Borges On 24 Jun 2010 "J. Colaco < jc>" wrote: Once again, I thank you for your post in which you have raised very valid and well made points points. A few of the points actually crossed my mind before I scripted that post. Hence, I made it my business to check before I hit the SEND button. On my part, at the outset, let me reiterate that I too have no personal interest in the dispute as I am not a member and I do not know of any of my relatives being members of GWS. The person, singled out for special attention i.e. Gaspar Almeida is one of my best friends Not only was he singled out, MY private e-space and (I believe) Goan sensibilities were offended by the plastering of this stuff on GoaNet and other sites. Even so ... and I mean it, IF Gaspar is wrong, he is wrong. BUT, if he is NOT wrong, I know that you will join me in saying so. No
[Goanet] THE END OF THE WORLD (CUP) as we know it_as also the beginning of other ends
Very decent and insightful analysis by Bodhisattwa Maity. Hope those connected with share this info with each other, instead of pretending that there has been progress as a recent "phatichar, or Renowned Goan PHAT man" pointed out (not soccer related) today, or was it yesterday. Let us reach at least for budhhisattva, instead of the buddhusattva state so prevalent. (Thanks Sharmila Karam. for coining these budh's. Dharam baby, dharam ka damru) THE END OF THE WORLD (CUP) as we know it http://www.tehelka.com/story_main45.asp?filename=hub030710endofworldcup.asp venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Nadia's dying declaration; Margao ‘notary’
Nadia's dying declaration appears doubtful: HCTNN, Jun 26, 2010, 04.42am IST PANAJI: The high court of Bombay at Goa while rejecting the anticipatory bail application of former tourism minister Francisco “Mickky" Pacheco on June 21 observed that “prima facie there is material on record to show a very close relationship between Pacheco and Nadia Torrado". Justice A S Oka also observed, “The deceased was already married. There is some material on record to show that the deceased travelled by air as a spouse of the tourism minister, which was the post held by the applicant." The court noted that as per material collected during investigations there was conversation between Nadia from her cellphone and Mickky’s cellphones from May 13 to May 15. “The prosecution claims that the scientific analysis of the details of the cellphone of the applicant shows that the applicant was present in the house of the deceased on the night of May 14, 2010," the court observed. Considering the investigation record submitted by the public prosecutor, the court stated that it is found that the applicant was all along present at the Appollo-Victor Hospital at Margao, Jupiter Hospital, Thane and Appollo Hospital, Chennai. “The investigation reveals that though there is no specific material on record to show that on May 16, 2010, when the alleged dying declaration of the deceased was recorded he was in the premises of Jupiter Hospital, but there is material to show that he was nearby the hospital (sic)," the court said. Referring to the documents submitted by the prosecution, the court further stated that the record shows that when the deceased was admitted to Apollo Victor Hospital at Margao, the case history notes only the consumption of Ratol. However, the case history recorded by the Jupiter Hospital at Thane on the same day also notes the consumption of 0.25 mg tablets of Restyl. It was recorded that there was a consumption of 20 tablets by the deceased on the evening of May 14, 2010, the court noted. “It is pertinent to note that the socalled dying declaration records that the deceased consumed Ratol by mistake on the morning of May 15, 2010. Surprisingly, the deceased was shifted to Apollo Victor Hospital in Goa in the afternoon after 3pm. At that time the applicant was present. Therefore, the case of accidental consumption of Ratol in the so-called dying declaration of the deceased appears to be doubtful," the court remarked. While holding that the custodial interrogation of the applicant was required, the court opined that considering the manner in which the incident occurred, the offence appears to be of a very serious nature. The court also made it clear that its observations were only for the purpose of deciding the bail application and should not be construed as any finding recorded by the court. Crime branch to submit report on Margao ‘notary’TNN, Jun 26, 2010, 04.49am IST PANAJI: The crime branch will be sending a report to the authorities seeking action against advocate Joey Rodrigues, of Margao for attesting former tourism minister Francisco ‘Mickky’ Pacheco’s affidavit to be presented in the high court office while seeking anticipatory bail, despite his certificate of practice as a notary expiring in 2009. “We are in the process of submitting a report to the state registrar and head of notary services asking for necessary action against Rodrigues," said police sources. The high court of Bombay at Goa while hearing Pacheco’s anticipatory bail application noted that the application made by the applicant has been affirmed before a notary public and there is an affidavit filed by the investigating officer stating that the registration of the said notary was renewed only up to October 2009 and, thereafter, the same has not been renewed. “However, it is not necessary to deal with this aspect in the present application which is being decided on merits. The same will have to be dealt with in appropriate proceedings", the court observed. Advocate Rodrigues’ certificate of practice as a notary had expired on October 10, 2009, and he had applied for its renewal on November 6, 2009, to the state registrar and head of notary services. The state registrar forwarded the application to the law department where it is currently pending. Section 9 of the Notaries Act mandates that no person shall practice as a notary unless he holds a valid certificate of practice issued to him. Besides, Section 12 of the Act further states that any person who falsely represents as a notary without having a valid licence shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three months, or with fine, or with both. Pacheco, to avoid appearing in person in the high court office to file an anticipatory bail application, had sent the applications with his lawyer, accompanied by an affidavit sworn before Rodrigues in Margao. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/articlelist/3012535.cms -- DEV BOREM KORUM Ga
[Goanet] Churchills Presence at Global Goans Sao Jao Event
Dear All, Pls appreciate that my independent views stating that Churchill's univited appearance at the Sao Jao *event was my personal view*; I said this because as I was not aware that he would be attending. *No where have I stated that this was a statement from the Global Goans; *this is for the benefit of those trying to deliberately confuse the situation Arwin Mesquita, UAE.
[Goanet] Goa minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai
Yes Arwin n Agnelo,
This pig is non other than our Great Chor Churchill Alemao. We must disclose
his name.
Ignatius Dias
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Yes, Agnelo this PIG came from nowwhere uninvited!!
And I was extremely disgusted to see him.
Arwin
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:56:16 -0400
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Global Goans UAE celebrated San Joao with gaiety and festivities at
Ramee Hotel Dubai. As the fun was picking up and people were having fun
and frolic.
http://skydrive.live.com/play.aspx?path=/photomail/{ddfa3418-2fce-4d83-be83-75f2dfda4f57}&image=112945AE4DB3A962!141&imagehi=112945AE4DB3A962!139&CID=1236596187620157794
There was hullabaloo and uneasy atmosphere. The festivities were on
the verge of being disrupted as the result of gate crashing by a well
know corrupt minister (he has church in his name but shameless soul
hangs up on the hill) who was in Dubai on a private visit. Who says
Pig?s can?t fly. We witnessed 100kg Goan pig fly out of nowhere on the
roof top of the hotel. We Goans are holy people so we immediately
forgive and forget just as we do every election and embrace this
politician as if his is our Saviour. And lo and behold out of now where
he is at the centre stage taking pictures. It was a disgraceful that
this minister came un-invited at the event and vanished in the same
speed as he came in. Many of our fellow Gaons took pride to shake hand
with this Saviour of Corruption. It shows how thick skin we Goans are.
We are willing to worship any God of corruption. I can only hang my
head in shame and pray to God to give those people wisdom to
distinguish between right and wrong, good and bad. Lord delivery us
from these evil forces.
Agnelo Pinheiro
[Goanet] TRIALS & TRIBULATIONS OF INDIA’s 16 MILLION ROMAN CATHOLICS.
What should the Catholic Church need to do to assist Indian Catholics : 1. Setup alcohol de-addiction camps in every parish and provide free anti-alcohol medicines. 50% of the problems of Catholics will be solved if they stop drinking alcohol. 2. Warn the Mangalorean Konkani Catholics and the Kerala Malyalee Catholics that their various linguistic based associations is a threat to the unity of catholics in India. 3. Provide financial assistance to Catholic Activist’s. provide moral support to those farmers/tribals/fisherfolks whose livelihood is under threat from certain lobbies. Educate the City folks the need to protect Openspaces & Greenzones from being encroached by the slumlords, builders, mafia, muncipality and politicians. 4. To avoid Persecution from the Hindus some Catholics in India are operating with Hindu names. Let the Bishops in India issue a statement on what is their opinion on those catholics who are operating with hindu names. Should the catholics with hindu names be considered cowards ? 5. Demand reservations in Govt. Jobs for ALL Catholics. 6. Review present conversion activities of Catholic missionaries. Make absolutely certain that NO form of coercion is utilized. 7. Re-introduce Latin in the core section of the Mass. 8. Stay absolutely clear of partisan politics. It should however support good decisions of the civil authorities with the same hand it criticizes the unfair decisions. 9. Advise the seminarians and priests about the slick infiltration techniques employed by the highly skilled 'debaters' among the Hindu fundamentalists. 10. Continue the exemplary work in the field of education, health care and care of the disadvantaged especially poor catholics. 11. Utilize vacant church properties for the housing needs of poor catholics. 12. Reserve 50% seats in catholic schools, colleges, institutions for catholics. 13. Further involve the laity in the running of the Church. India is a country of over a billion people. About 16 ( 1.6 crore ) million of these are Roman Catholics. There are a few million of other Christian denominations and Buddhist and a significant number of Muslims, but the vast majority (83%) of people in India are Hindus (Brahmans, (highest) priests and scholars, Kshatriyas, (next) nobles and warriors, Vaisyas, (next) farmers and merchants & Sudras, (lowest) serfs and slaves ). Only Hindus practice the caste system; it is abandoned if a Hindu becomes a Mohammedan or a Christian. Hinduism espouses the division of people into hierarchically placed groups called “castes”. These castes are placed in a stepladder of ascending superiority and descending inferiority. People who are born into these castes should follow the ordained caste professions and marry only within their caste through arranged marriages. The beneficiaries of this system were the various Brahman castes who by virtue of their birth were free to follow intellectual pursuits at the advent of British colonial education making them modern India’s intellectual, scientific, and bureaucratic class. The various “Vysya” (trading) castes, placed below the Brahman castes and the Royal (“Kshatriya”) castes, have enjoyed the monopoly in trading activities for centuries, by virtue of their birth, thus becoming modern India’s corporate and business class. The “Shudras” are the various lower castes in the hierarchy who are considered as Hindus and members of caste Hindu society. Hinduism came to India with the arrival of the Aryans from Persia some 2500 years ago. The Aryans formed a caste system in order to maintain the purity of their blood and to maintain supremacy. Islam came to India with the arrival of the Arabs. Roman Catholicism came to India with the arrival of the Portuguese in 1497 although christianity in western coast of India came with the arrival Apostle St. Thomas & Apostle St. Bartholomew some time in AD 40. What & How the original inhabitants of India first worshipped is not clear. The Dravidians of North India (before they were pushed South) and the Aryans (who pushed the Dravidians south) are both Hindus but practice slightly different forms of worship. Buddhism, a revolt against what the Buddhists call Brahmanism (Hinduism based on the superiority of the Brahmins), once flourished all over India. After many centuries in the doldrums, Buddhism is making a comeback. The vast majority of people from the Indian subcontinent who converted to Buddhism, Islam and Christianity are from the lower strata. They did so mainly to escape the caste based oppression by the upper castes. The elite among the Muslims belong to the invading Moghals or are Turkish in descent. As far as Christianity is concerned, Goan Catholics and the Syrian Catholics of South India are exceptions. Members of all castes converted to Catholicism in these areas. In Goa, caste based discrimination continues to be practiced among the Catholics, even within the precincts of the Church. Caste discrimination within the Ch
[Goanet] Invitation
Hi, We are having our engagement ceremony on the 4th of July in the evening. This is in Gurgaon/ Delhi NCR. If would be excellent if you could make it. Simran Issar & Wency Mendes V29/11A DLF City Phase 3, Gurgaon Haryana 122002 India +91 9811424363
[Goanet] Mining discourse dominates Goa Revolution Day commemoration
Goa Federation of Mines Affected People (GOAMAP) organized a special program to mark commemoration of Goa Revolution Day that is known defiance of Portuguese colonial rule by late Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia in 1946. The program was held in quite evening in tribal hamlet of Bendordem, Balli in Quepem taluka in South Goa. Program started off with welcome gesture by local member of Panchayat Bikhudas Velip. Few people spoke their views from heart at this meeting attended by many including local school children. Advocate John Fernandes was the first one speak after Sebastian Rodrigues had just finished introducing theme of the day and the historical significance of Goa Revolution Day. Advocate John Fernandes was in his usual free flow with revolutionary fervor and spoke at quite a length setting the tone for the rest of the program. He observed that in current Goa there is freedom for three categories of people: mine owners, politicians and rulers. The common people are still oppressed. Hence there is a need for another revolution. Advocate Fernandes referred to the historical writings of Dr.T.B.Cunha that proves mining companies support to Portugal colonial rule in Goa. He said that it was mining companies that was responsible for the delay in getting Portuguese out of Goa. Mining companies are not concerned about common people. Biggest danger to Goa currently is from mining companies. In nearby Cavrem and Maina life of people is in constant danger. Its mountain – devapan dongor - has two mines operating on top of it – Sheikh Salim, and Magnum. State government in collusion with mining companies has a plan to evict tribal people and take away their land for mining. There are also long term plans to make bypass road to transport ore to Betul for loading into vessels in Arabian Sea. Direct effect of every mine is felt to the distance of 8 kilometers in radius. The need of the time currently is to support Cavrem villagers today and launch another revolution today against mining plunder of Goa. Don’t trust Digambar Kamat, the Chief Minister of Goa. He is a number one mining agent. He is responsible for Goa’s mining loot. Be alert and keep mining away. Goa government is not implementing Forest Rights Act 2006 in Goa. This is so because mining leases are in tribal lands. This law is not implemented in Goa to favour mining companies. Agricultural Tenancy Act implementation also suffers as survey under this law never took place in Goa. Cases in courts drag for 10-15 years. Landlords deliberately file cases on cultivators. Government not bothered about common people. It is concerned only about rich people. SC/ST people are not yet liberated. Land acquisition for various projects are of common people. Schedule Tribe Act is not implemented and tribal areas are not notified. There is urgent need to thoroughly examine if the fruits of liberation has reached the common people in Goa. There is an urgent need for strong revolutionary movement in Goa. Revolutionary way is the only way ahead. Anthony D’silva from Ambelim, Salcete said that mining is making large number of people in Goa medically sick. It is causing urinary problems, kidney problems as Goa’s water dams are polluted due to mining silt and government simply supplies this water to the consumers. Its treatment creates more problems than purification. He said it is important to become aware in advance and take precautionary action against mining industry. Abhijit Prabhudesai from Goenchea Xetkarancho Ekvott expressed dismay against mining industry. He pointed out that Sirgao village in Bicholim is destroyed due to mining. He called upon the villagers to unite and protect villages for future generations and not to let the mining companies to swallow up lands. He pointed out that currently world is facing food and water crisis and it is only going to aggravate in near future is mining industry continues its wrath. Government policy of distributing rice cheap at Rs.3/- per kilogram is meant to motivate farmers to give up cultivation. Xavier Fernandes from Colamb, Sanguem in his fiery speech said that land is mother – matrubhoomi. Mining companies are defiling it continuously. He said that mining companies if they continue the way they are going about then they will finish the entire ecology. It is important to work physically and not to accept money offered by mining companies. People must unite to fight the State in Goa. Badruddin Mavany’s mine in Cavrem releases large quantity of lime inside the mining pits. This in turn pollutes ground water as visible from the Saptu Faterpekar’s home well in the close neighborhood. Pandits and Brahmis are hegemonising the state in Goa. He called upon youth to come forward and join the struggle. Mining has destroyed the agriculture in Goa that used to be the backbone of people’s economy. Mechanized mining is very dangerous. Temples constructed by mining companies are only to divert atte
[Goanet] Notes from Dr. Bikram Dasgupta memorial lecture on 19 June 2010 by Markus Kroger
It was nice afternoon on June 19, 2010 at T.B.Cunha hall that witnessed passionate presentation and intense discussions on the topic ‘Co-operatives as a key to democracy, social equality and sustainable development: the case of Finland’ by Finnish scholar Markus Kroger. Organised by Nature Environment Society and Transformations (NEST) as a second in the occasional lecture series in memory of late Dr. Bikram Dasgupta. Although it was not possible to capture all the points that came for presentation and subsequent discussions here are few of them: 96% of dairy production in Finland is governed by cooperatives. Finland has the population of 5 million people out of which 1.5 million are members of cooperatives with 50,000 employed on salary basis. Meat sector is 100% dominated by cooperatives. Agriculture and Forestry has 45% dominance of cooperatives. There is also large consumer co-operatives that are successfully posing major challenge to even international chains like wall mart. Cooperatives started 110 years ago and soon its inception both left as well as right attacked them as it posed as new power house. However within 20 years it founded new political party. In 1920s this political party carried on agrarian reforms in Finland and distributed land and forest for landless. Cooperatives led to higher level of competition in the economy as they were able to get the products ready with low cost input and high quality output. For this reason capitalist later also supported the cooperatives as they too valued high quality of products. Paper industry also included the involvement of cooperatives. Historically paper industry has been the backbone of Finland economy. From 12th to 19th Century Finland was a colony of Sweden and then later was under Russia ruled by its Czar. Finland was used by Czar to showcase its welfare facet as against its repressive military facet that was visible in Poland of that time. Finland benefitted from this footnote in history in a major way. Finland is composed of different tribes and its economy and politics for a long time was controlled by Swedish minority in Finland. Russia turned repressive towards the end of 19th century as a response to rising wave of patriotism. Cooperatives were a response to repression as formation was cooperatives was legal. Strong linkages developed between intellectuals and masses in Finland. Finland witnessed civil war in 1918 when left wing and right wing political parties fought each other on streets. It was a bloody war as both the parties had raised their own armies and they clashed with each other. After the civil Finland witnessed ethnic cleansing; poor were massacred. Tens and thousands of people were put in concentration camp and killed by white army. Threat of Russian invasion continuously hovered over Finland politically and the three major power houses in Finland united to face this challenge: Cooperatives, Trade Unions, and Businesses. Finland witnessed land reforms in 1940s and 1950s wherein everyone in Finland got a new piece of forest land. In 1990s some cooperatives in Finland went bankrupt as they has invested heavily in casinos indulging in gambling. Recently voting in cooperatives internal elections has decline as the new people are unaware of their history (of cooperatives). Also there are tensions between three traditional sectors like business houses stopped buying milk from cooperatives and instead purchase it from neighboring Sweden as it is cheaper than in Finland. Lots of research input has gone into setting cooperatives in motion in Finland. In 1930s Nobel Prize was awarded to cooperatives for innovations. They had founded Agricultural Research Institute to facilitate research and innovations. They are faring well even in the face of global markets. 1930s and 1940s can be considered as golden period of co-operatives in Finland. It is the cooperatives that made Finland self-sufficient in food. Education and Health care is free in Finland. Education has a major contribution from Cooperatives. People of Finland are known for their work in groups. Student movement in Finland is richest in the world owning assets worth millions of Euros. Co-operatives in Finland however do not propagate communist ideology or its affiliation to Russia. They are autonomous entities that founded centrist parties. They do not support communism in any way. The historical event known as ‘Russian Revolution’ that marked the take over of power by Bolshevik party is more of capture of power by force after losing elections from the farmers unions – kulaks by industrial workers. Agricultural unions were destroyed in this process in a systematic manner. Finland had a good army at the time of Russian revolution and could have very easily intervened to defeat the ‘revolution’. However the ruler of the time thought with foresight and considered Russian revenge later would be too costly for Finland
Re: [Goanet] Law enforcers avail loopholes to acquit drug traffickers: CSJP- COMMENTS
HERALD NEWS BUREAU PANJIM, JUNE 25 The Council for Social Justice and Peace (CSJP) has stated that the State has sunk into such a shameful situation that those entrusted with the enforcement of the law have blatantly availed of loopholes to acquit drug traffickers. In its hard-hitting message to mark 'International Anti-drugs Day' on June 26, the CSJP has also claimed that people in the State have "lost confidence in all arms of the authority and are led to believe that there definitely exists a nexus between the politicians, police and all rungs of traffickers." "The United Nations General Assembly proclaimed in 1987 that June 26 be marked as the International Day against Drug abuse and illicit trafficking. However, over the years organized international illicit trade in cannabis, cocaine, hallucinogens, opiates, amphetamine-type of stimulants has increased manifold, taking into its snares and using all types of people at all levels, the most vulnerable being young people and even innocent children used for peddling," stated the CSJP press note. Commenting on the situation in the State, the CSJP stated that many citizens, NGO's and those responsible to control the illicit trade admit that the trade in different types of narcotic drugs has spread its tentacles far and wide into the depths of Goa, even into the portals of the law enforcing authorities and educational institutions. "Traffickers and users have been caught and the process of law to punish them has been initiated, in many cases." "However, Goa has sunk into such a shameful situation that those entrusted with the duty of upholding justice by enforcing the law, blatantly avail of loopholes to acquit the accused. Hence, today Citizens at large have lost their confidence in all arms of the authority and are led to believe that there definitely exists a nexus between the politicians, police and all rungs of traffickers," the CSJP said. "Besides, the irrational race to 'have more' rather than 'be more' has created challenges in homes and among families. Parents are not fully available to their adolescents and children to give due psychological and emotional stability which is crucial to sustain family life." Law enforcers avail loopholes to acquit drug traffickers: CSJP "In Goa, bars and taverns are focal points of relaxation where soft-drinks laced with narcotic substances and hard liquor flow freely and other psychotropic substances are easily available. This behaviour gnaws into the fabric of family life." The CSJP has stated that families, educational and other institutions, social organisations and volunteer groups must make concerted efforts to inspire people, especially the young, to put their holistic health above all else, saying a decisive 'NO' to narcotic drugs, other substances and abuse of alcohol. Other measures suggested by the CSJP include prevention of vulnerable individuals from falling into such traps, organizing collective vigilance against drug trafficking in any form in the State and the demand of strict enforcement of law by all authorities. The CSJP has also strongly recommended counseling therapy for all, detoxification, healing and rehabilitation of the individual, and a consistent support system over a long period of time. "On this International Anti-drug Day, let us make a firm commitment to holistic health and total elimination of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances and addiction to alcohol," state the CSJP. COMMENTS Yesterday, 25th June, 2010, we saw a serpentine rally of St. Xavier's College (Mapusa) girls walking the streets of Mapusa with varied placards... all related to the use/abuse of DRUGS. One such placard that caught my attention was " YOU DON'T NEED HEROINE TO BE A HERO' . Very well said, that. But then when the laws are slack to the extent that they are non-existent, where a pan-walla in front of the school/college whatever is dishing out mints and things to school children laced with drugs, it goes a long way in furthering and nursing the appetite of Goans for these drugs. Do these people need advertising? What are the present safe-guards, checks, by the anti-drugs, FDA, agencies to keep a vigilant, random, eye on these outlets? One person caught once in a way is enough? Do we see anybody asking questions to anyone, anywhere and checking what they have with them? When we openly see the nexus between our legislators ( I am not calling them politicians because this word stinks to kingdom come), our esteemed police force and the drug peddlers, what more can one expect? The case of Atala being released on bail and the very fact that he is allowed to speak freely, absolving our legislators and/or their sons etc. is a case in point. That even our judiciary is short-handed to check this abuse is a matter of real shame. The police will want to get off the hook. So they will cook the case so that it does not stand up in court. There is no punish
Re: [Goanet] To SB re GWS ANNUAL GENERAL BODY MEETING - REPORT
Preface: The following GENERIC points are jotted down with no reference to anybody (even Fr. Sebastian Borges and me) or anything (even what Fr. Sebastian Borges and I will "accomplice" by way of our writing). Any resemblance to any Sadaam, Sebastian or Salazar, anywhere in this Saunsar, is purely coincidental and is not intended. (This technique is CopyLefted by Tongue in Chicks Accomplice-ments Limitada. Please use as you see unfit) My dear Fr. Sebastian Borges, I agree with you. a: US $ 100, 000 is pocket change. b: There is NO need to have Society accounts audited. Society funds should be held in private accounts. c: "They" did not provide audited accounts, why should we? d: 3 days is not sufficient to revise an advert which distinctly misrepresents at least ONE facts. e: It is OK to state that a mis-representative advert is OK, without have seen the advert. f: The Secretary of an organization is the one who takes responsibility (instead of the President), because it is 'His Administration'. g: Those who comment on a subject which has been blasted into the public domain, are liable for great 'accomplice-ment'. h: English is an easy subject. Unfortunately, it is written in the Romi script. We were sleeping in class anyway. i: English dictionaries are available, but who cares about the meaning of words? j: My Way Accounting is also an easy subject. From Tiracol to Canacona, Mi Sarkar is in operation. This Audit-Bodit is nonsense. k: Rs. One lakh is nothing. Rs.49.7 lakhs is even less. jc Prejident of Devanagri ONLY for English (DOE) DOE is a charity-begins-with-self organization Please give More Dough to DOE. ps: This is Final Response, unless Referee 'marraos piluk' (No uncouth jokes piliss), in which case, it becomes Semi-Final response. Fr. Sebastian Borges may have the final shot at goal, if he wishes. === On 26 June 2010 03:23, Sebastian Borges wrote: > Dear Jose Colaco, > Many thanks for your message. > It is commendable that you are trying to defend one of your best friends, > as such friends who come to your aid in times of need are hard to come by. I > can only wish you luck. But I have no such mission, since I do even know > personally any of the persons involved. And my opinion is based on whatever > I can recollect having read on the issue in the recent past. Let me also > clarify that I have not seen the advertisement. >
[Goanet] Micky mouse
Sir, Every things seems to be stop about Micky mouse Give us some news..?? \ Anthony Pinheiro Loutulim
[Goanet] Bollywood Film "9 ELEVEN" seeking Hindi Speaking Actors in USA!
HINDI SPEAKING ACTORS - Send pics and info to - hcasting911mo...@gmail.com (You will have to take a month off for the film, Bollywood Movie will be filmed in Maryland/WashingtonDC/Virginia/NewJersey/NewYork) We need 250 extras for a Stage Dance Sequence - An Item Number with a famous Bollywood Actress (the name will be revealed soon). Email pics and weekends/weekday availability to - extras911mo...@gthisweekend Any ethnicity. We are looking for Production Interns, Production Assistants, Assistant Directors. This is your chance to work on a BOLLYWOOD FILM PROJECT - aimed for Theatrical Release in INDIA, and all other South-Asian centers where Hindi movies are played. We need LOCAL CREW (MD/DC/VA) - Send info to - crew911mo...@gmail.com For Business, Distribution, and ProductPlacement Queries - Email narainmat...@hotmail.com or Call 301 213 5588
Re: [Goanet] Goa minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai
I am sure Ignatius, Agnelo, Arwin etc have their reasons for being so bitter
against the Ministers from Goa. They have a right to speak their
mind...However, this forum is a constructive forum and one is free to air
their views but one should not lower themselves to such an extent that they
have to abuse or call people names. After all, we are not in Goa and have
come to greener pastures of our own choice, as each of us has our own
reasons. But, by calling people names and defaming them in public can call
for a lot of unnecessary hassles. We must see the bottom lineThese
Ministers are in their posts as They have been elected by the people in one
of the worlds largest democracy's. They have been elected time and
again...by whom? The people of Goa...the people who actually physically live
there. Most of us are abroad and only use our keyboards to condemn or
praise. By condemning the Ministers we are in fact condemning our fellow
Goan Brothers and sisters (the electorate) as they are the ones who have
elected the Ministers...They are the majority...if we want to make a
difference to our Goa, then we should go to Goa and do something about it
instead of sitting abroad and having a go at our keyboards. One can go and
stand for elections and IF elected can make a difference to Goa AND Goans. I
am sure the same people that elect the current Ministers now and again will
elect some new faces provided the new faces are capable of delivering the
goods and are capable of taking all the flak!
I have read in recent posts that Babush is going to Swindon, Churchill has
come to Dubai and gatecrashed a function, Joaquim Alemao has done this and
so and so Minister has done that Making accusations is simple and one
cannot be stopped, but making it on a public forum just goes to show the
mentality of our OWN People...the Ministers are elected by US and we
OURSELVES condemn them ! indirectly we are condemning ourselves ! If one
thinks or has any evidence of any wrongdoings by any individual why not
confront the concerned individual or Minister or even the event organizers
directly instead of making a noise on a public forum knowing that it is not
going to obtain any positive result (except to put the author in the
limelight)? Babush is going to Swindon...dont think its a good idea ?
Contact the Swindon Goans and reason out with them giving them valid
reasons..they MAY listen to you and act accordinglyChurchill
gatecrashing an event? Does anyone know this for a fact? if you have
evidence, contact the organizers (Global Goans, I think) and verify the
point..who knows maybe they invited him? if not who entertained him at the
event? How did he gain entry without a ticket or invite? I don't really
know.
We can go on and on, so to cut it short, lets wash our dirty linen at home
and not in Publicif we think our Ministers are tainted...lets go to Goa
and make a difference...at least our keyboards will have some rest.
Written without malice to any individual...written only in the better
interests of Goa and especially our Goan Community.
Viva Goa
Querobino
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Ignatius Xavier wrote:
> Yes Arwin n Agnelo,
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> This pig is non other than our Great Chor Churchill Alemao. We must
> disclose his name.
>
> Ignatius Dias
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:48:28 +0400
> From: Arwin Mesquita
> To: Goanet
> Subject: [Goanet] Re. Goa Minister gate crash at San Joao event in
> Dubai
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> Yes, Agnelo this PIG came from nowwhere uninvited!!
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> And I was extremely disgusted to see him.
>
> Arwin
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:56:16 -0400
> From: pinheiro
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet] Goa Minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai
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> Global Goans UAE celebrated San Joao with gaiety and festivities at
> Ramee Hotel Dubai. As the fun was picking up and people were having fun
> and frolic.
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> http://skydrive.live.com/play.aspx?path=/photomail/{ddfa3418-2fce-4d83-be83-75f2dfda4f57}&image=112945AE4DB3A962!141&imagehi=112945AE4DB3A962!139&CID=1236596187620157794
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> There was hullabaloo and uneasy atmosphere. The festivities were on
> the verge of being disrupted as the result of gate crashing by a well
> know corrupt minister (he has church in his name but shameless soul
> hangs up on the hill) who was in Dubai on a private visit. Who says
> Pig?s can?t fly. We witnessed 100kg Goan pig fly out of nowhere on the
> roof top of the hotel. We Goans are holy people so we immediately
> forgive and forget just as we do every election and embrace this
> politician as if his is our Saviour. And lo and behold out of now where
> he is at the centre stage taking pictures. It was a disgraceful that
> this minister came un-invited at the event and vanished in the same
> speed as he came
[Goanet] Fw: Quepem Margao High way flooded at paroda
John Fernandes Quepem The Quepem Margao Highway at paroda submerged under water since early Saturday morning as the Kushawati flooded thereby disturbing the normal life on this route. The traffic going to margoa was diverted via Amona Chandor side. The submergence of the Quepem Margao high way continued till the filling of this report. The heavy rain caused damaged to properties at Cacora, Shelvona and Amona. At Shelvona the house of one Subhash Chadra Dessai flooded with water thereby causing damage to the extent of Rs.2000/- while at Cocora the house of one Rosita Dias collapse thereby causing loss to the extent of Rs.35,000/- and at Amona the house of one Julio Dias damage thereby causing damage to the extend of Rs.8000/-. However no damage to life was reported. It is a regular feature that every year kushawati River get flooed at Paroda in the month July or in August when the down pour of rain is heavy. This year it flooded in the month of June itself. The Quepem Margao high way submerged at three places at karale, near paroda temple and near the paroda Church. The main sufferer are the school children from Mule , Karale and other places who goes to Immaculate Conception High School which situates on the other side of the Kushawati river. One Joazinho D’Cunha who has cross 60 years of age and who resides on the bank of Kushawati river informed herald that in his entire life has not seen Kushawati river flooding in the month of June. The Kushawati River use to get flooded either in the month of july or August that to if it rains heavily for consecutive two to three. The present situation shows that some thing wrong has been done to the kushawati River. Informed said Juazinho futher. Rama Velip of Colomba informed herald that the flooding of Kusahwati river is solely not because of heavy rain, but it is mainly due to the siltation of the low lying area of the river and due to release of water from the mining pond of the mines operating in Rivona, colomba, Cavrem, maina which are the catchment areas/feeding ground of Kushawati river. Rama Velip further informed that when it rains heavily lot of rain water get accumulated into the mining ponds and inorder to avoid unwarranted damage to the mining pond/pit the mining companies way out the water saturated into the mining pond into the Kushawati river or into its tributaries which results in flooding of Kushawati river even if its rains heavily for one . The villagers of Colomba even filed a writ petition in the High Court highlighting these issues informed said Rama further.
Re: [Goanet] Football World Cup 2010
Interesting someone remembered Garincha. According to some, he was greater than Pele (who they claim stole the limelight) and was a kind and a gentle soul. He died a under pretty miserable conditions, battling depression, pennyless, forgotten and consumed by alcohol (similar to Raphael, a non-Goan who played for Vasco and Goa). What they also realized Garincha was so great with the ball because of a deformity in one of his legs. Apparently, it was almost impossible to get the ball off his feet (again, something similar to the great Vasco player, Domnic). Here is a Garincha video: http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=gAwBeP5T-y8&feature=fvw I have a strange suspicion the Bra-Port game was a fixed result. Difficult to prove but we know the ways of the old Lucio world *you rub my back, I rub yours*. What happened before the finals at the Stade de France (a la the real Ronaldo) is still being speculated in the Brazilian press. I suspect it was the bet*ing business! On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Gabe Menezes wrote: > On 25 June 2010 05:07, Antonio Menezes wrote: > >> At the end of the initial stage of football matches, it is interesting to >> note that out of 32 teams competing >> for the World Cup, only one African country ( Ghana ) out of 6 African >> teams >> made it for the group of 16. >> Only 6 European teams out of 13 were successful and as far as teams from >> the >> American continent >> are concerned 7 out of 8 won the right to play at group 16 the only >> exception being Honduras. The >> other successful Asian teams are Japan and South Korea. >> > > COMMENT: Thank you for that; I was in England just a couple of years, when > England won the World Cup in '66. I thought the best team then was > Portugal...although they were accused of kicking Pele out of the tournament. > Had Portugal won, it would have been an one man show- the great Eusebio. As > it is only two persons have been given that accolade of greatness and > responsible for their Countries victory - Garincha of Brazil in '62 and > Maradona in '78. > > On Sunday the whole of England will be on tenterhooks - do or dieso love > us with all of your heart! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan4Ewxl1-o > > -- > DEV BOREM KORUM > > Gabe Menezes. >
[Goanet] BJP to file disqualification petition against Babush
BJP to file disqualification petition against Babush HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JUNE 25 The Bharatiya Janata Party(BJP) will file a disqualification petition against Taleigao member of the legislative assembly (MLA) and Education Minister Babush Monserrate who rejoined the Congress party two days ago. Leader of the opposition Manohar Parrikar at a press conference held at assembly complex on Friday evening , said the BJP’s legislative wing of the party in its meeting held today has taken the decision. In 2007 assembly elections, Monserrate was declared Congress candidate to contest the Taleigao seat. However he dumped the Congress party at last minute when his wife Jennifer Monserrate was denied the Congress ticket to contest in St, Cruz constituency. Interestingly, Monserrate filed nomination papers to contest Taleigao seat as a United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP) candidate within a few hours after he resigned from the Congress party. Two days ago, the BJP was reluctant about filing disqualification petition against Monserrate . Party spokesperson Rajendra Arlekar, on being grilled at a press conference on Wednesday here, had questioned the utility of filing disqualification petition against the Taleigao MLA and had said it will not make any difference. However, Parrikar today said the party has taken the decision to go ahead with disqualification petition but it would be subject to receipt of relevant documents from UGDP. Monserrate was expelled from UGDP when he supported Congress-led government much against the wishes of the party. Parrikar said he will write to the UGDP chief requesting for documents necessary to file the disqualification petition to make a case of defection against the Taleigao MLA. No confidence motion: Opposition leader Manohar Parrikar has announced that BJP would move a no-confidence motion against Speaker Pratapsing Rane for his alleged “partisan behaviour.” Earlier a no confidence motion moved by the BJP was dismissed by the speaker on technical grounds. Making allegations that the Speaker has been acting in “partisan manner “he said the BJP strongly denounced his “this attitude.” He further said none of the disqualification petitions filed before the speaker has been decided even as they have been pending for over three years now. Referring to the disqualification petition filed against transport minister and Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party (MGP) legislator from Madkai, Sudin Dhavalikar, he said stay on his voting right was lifted only after the Supreme Court order. Currently, he said five disqualifications petitions are pending before the Speaker which he alleged have been left pending for the benefit of the Congress party. http://oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/BJP-to-file-disqualification-petition-against-Babush/38220.html
[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: World Cup sweepstake entries....
Here are the remaining entries; good luck to all and once again thanks for > participating and your generosity towards a good cause. > > > ARGENTINA - Elora Lobo; Ria Almeida > BRAZIL - Elora Lobo; Olga & Philip D'Cunha > CHILE - Filomena Giese; Helga do rosario Gomes > ENGLAND - Elora Lobo; Robert Dias > GERMANY - Elora Lobo; Milan Kojnok > GHANA - Joe Almeida; Kurt Almeida > JAPAN - Shilla Almeida; Soriya Meas > MEXICO - Roland Travas; Savio D'Silva > NETHERLANDS - Kurt Almeida; Maju/Glen Furtado > PARAGUAY -Acaria Almeida; Aurelius Figueredo > PORTUGAL -Seby/Thomas Pereira; Shila Almeida > SLOVAKIA -Helga do Rosario Gomes; Jacob D'Souza > SPAIN - Loreen/Oscar d'Silva; Kurt Almeida > URUGUAY - Aidan Pinto; Acaria Almeida > USA - Stephen/Yaedemin Fernandes; Shilla Almeida > > URUGURAY BEAT SOUTH KOREA this afternoon and the USA play GHANA tonight 8.30pm Local time. > -- > DEV BOREM KORUM > > Gabe Menezes. > > -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Footballer, Garrincha *link*
During the World Cup, I like remembering football players from the past, many of whom played for the love of the game. Here is a link to some reading on Garrincha. As well, there is a documentary on his career..way before big money came into the game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrincha Too bad, the Goa FA never thought of organizing a small film festival of football films/documentaries. The game will be dead in Goa in a few years but while the interest is there, may have been nice to make use of the film screening venues. A city I lived in for sometime does that: a week before the WC, they have a 10 day football film festival. The attendance is surprisingly goodwith all the hype around the sport, it draws in the crowds. As well, reading on football. Not too many interesting lit on football aside from the UK newspapers. However from many years ago, there is Tim Parks 'A Season with Verona '. Interesting read and Parks is an interesting writer (Englishman living in Italy). He followed Verona and its supporters around when they were in Serie A (Italian league). http://tim-parks.com/non-fiction/a-season-with-verona/
Re: [Goanet] Goa minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai
Querobino Fernandes, Sir, Hats off to you for your very visible post. This particular sentence of you post makes all the difference. Quote We can go on and on, so to cut it short, lets wash our dirty linen at home and not in Publicif we think our Ministers are tainted...lets go to Goa and make a difference...at least our keyboards will have some rest. Unquote. See! I am connected to an outfit called the Goa Su-Raj Party, a party that wants to drive the "Delhi-Maharashtra-Nagpur" High Commands packing from the Goan soil. For instance, Churchill Alemao ( whatever he may be) is the elected member of the Government of Goa. People were and are free to elect anybody else in his place. Presently he is the PWD Minister incharge of all Roads/Bridges /water distribution etc. His word is the command. So, though, I would want him out, technically speaking, I have to go to him to highlight the nececities which I think are on priority basis. [The other day I went to him to tell him that the MOira bridge is in danger of falling as a result of wide cracks] He immediately ordered the concerned PWD Engineer to look into the matter and in a jiffy, right there when I was sitting in his office at the Secretariat. We are in a wonderful country which is called the Biggest Democracy in the world. If we do not want Churchill Alemao, Mickky Pacheco, Babush Monserrate, Vishwajeet Rane et al, we should work our hackles and see that we promote someone else with a better system of governance to sit in their places. That they are using money and muscle power is not argument. The entire political system is going that way."You want to win, you need to unload" Otherwise, like we are propagating the system of 'no money-muscle power', the people of Goa must support this system and make it win over the other system which they are chronically disgusted. Once again, not to discourage others, hats off to you for your sensibilities. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS> This reply has not been re-scanned for errors. So pls excuse. - Original Message - From: "Querobino Fernandes" To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai I am sure Ignatius, Agnelo, Arwin etc have their reasons for being so bitter against the Ministers from Goa. They have a right to speak their mind...However, this forum is a constructive forum and one is free to air their views but one should not lower themselves to such an extent that they have to abuse or call people names. After all, we are not in Goa and have come to greener pastures of our own choice, as each of us has our own reasons. But, by calling people names and defaming them in public can call for a lot of unnecessary hassles. We must see the bottom lineThese Ministers are in their posts as They have been elected by the people in one of the worlds largest democracy's. They have been elected time and again...by whom? The people of Goa...the people who actually physically live there. Most of us are abroad and only use our keyboards to condemn or praise. By condemning the Ministers we are in fact condemning our fellow Goan Brothers and sisters (the electorate) as they are the ones who have elected the Ministers...They are the majority...if we want to make a difference to our Goa, then we should go to Goa and do something about it instead of sitting abroad and having a go at our keyboards. One can go and stand for elections and IF elected can make a difference to Goa AND Goans. I am sure the same people that elect the current Ministers now and again will elect some new faces provided the new faces are capable of delivering the goods and are capable of taking all the flak!
[Goanet] We need accountability, collective responsibility
We need accountability, collective responsibility TNN, Jun 26, 2010, 04.30am IST Goans can’t continue to run scared of uncertainty. When trust is in place and all Goans are responsible for the collective development of the state, it will lead to progress, says Wendell Rodricks. Those who say that development is bad for Goa actually mean to say that the change in Goa is at too rapid a pace. It is foolish not to want progressive development. Who does not want a clinic and a doctor in each village? A playground? A job opportunity? We all do. Goans must comprehend that even progressive development comes at a price. Trees will be cut. Land will be levelled.We must accept that! What people cannot accept are doubts about the intent of the administrators of power, real estate developers, mega project developers and entrepreneurs solely with private gain on their minds. Goans are educated enough to know about ill intent. They can figure out a kickback commission on a bird-brained project like a sea link. Or an airbus. Or another airport. In a state as small as Goa, there is a genuine concern that in 20 years, the state will be a concrete skeleton. There are far too many homes and spaces left unused or under litigation. At some point we Goans need to decide how much is enough. Since it is almost every Indian’s wish to have a home in Goa, are we going to accommodate one billion people’s dreams? The vast housing projects, on paper and in reality, enjoy one week occupancy of the actual owner per year.Will Goa become a concrete jungle of unused homes? It will; going by what we see in Calangute, Baga and all over Goa. Empty buildings with three or four families in permanent residence. Certainly, no one has given a thought for basic amenities like water and power for this influx of catastrophic proportions. Questions are raised accompanied with valid doubts.Who are we building for? Is this building spree not an exploitation of real estate? Where will Goa get the natural and manmade resources to support the population growth? When will this migration end? Should we not control it to a point? What are also questionable are the comparisons with the rest of India. What works in Gujarat will not work here.And vice versa.Why do we have IT plans when there is no infrastructure and no Goans to man these grand plans? The environment is a big concern. Not just for us humans. What about the silent creatures of the earth? Level a hill for an airport with no concern for the butterflies, the birds, and the wildlife. Are we fair to rob cows of their grazing grounds? Do we dream that our pollution will give us fish in our rivers in ten years? Can we not see that we have placed factories on grazing land and now sacred cows forage in garbage piles? Disgraceful. Disrespect for religious animals as well. Disrespect for our children as they will never see the Goa we enjoyed. Another consideration is how long Goa will stay flavour of the country and of the world at large. Tourists flocked to the south of France, then Ibiza, later the Algarve, now South America. Goa is the latest trend. But for how long? We should recall that the boom in tourism for Goa began with the LTTE problem in Sri Lanka. It is then that charters shifted to the safer holiday destination Goa so easily became. We must accept that we will be surpassed by Assam or Meghalaya, and other nearby countries on the globe. In a few years it will not be so chic to own a home or apartment in Goa. Fashionable dictates will drive people elsewhere. What happens then? More concrete skeletons and a cheaper tourist? My greatest fear is that if there is no plan in place,Goa may lose out on its biggest earner—tourism. Goa enjoys a reputation (sullied too often in the recent past) for being a tourist destination. With the excessive development rate, tourism will suffer. The only solution is to plan for Goa. Install a core group of people who can plan for the state with no personal gain for themselves. We need development in terms of infrastructure, jobs and social welfare. The future of Goa’s financial situation should be long term. Not a shortterm scheme which cannot sustain itself after a mere five years. One of the lasting impressions of living in the Western world is how politicians and world leaders leave behind a cultural, architectural or social legacy. Mitterrand left behind a great library and a modern Arche de la Defense. Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy left an airport in her husband’s name. Closer home we associate Pratapsingh Rane with the Kala Academy and Manohar Parrikar for starting IFFI. The chief minister and his MLAs should discuss a 20-year-plan of future direction and in what condition Goa should be in the next century. One of the problems most Indian states face is the lack of a concrete plan for the future. The planning commission apparently does no planning. It is simply a body that accepts b
Re: [Goanet] Chauvinism V/s Patriotism - Adv. Radharao Gracias - Herald - June 25, 2010 - Comments
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this ridiculous article it looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of argument in this article suggests, the principal measure of contribution to society is to join the army, then India has done quite well. It has arguably the third largest army in the world, after China and Russia. But I am sure most readers of the article have more sense than to believe any aspect of the cartoonish picture sketched by it. Contributions to human civilization involve much more than military prowess and scoring goals - indeed, much more than even technological advancement. There is language, art, music, dance, literature, sculpture, architecture, cuisine, philosophy and numerous other areas of human endeavor that characterize any culture and society. I would like to know whether the author of the said article has thought about them at all. His article certainly does not indicate he has. But if he has or if he does so now, I would also like to know what kind of objective method he would use to place India at the bottom of the pack in these areas as well. BTW, the literal contribution of zero by an Indian to mathematics was one of the most significant inventions of humankind. It was as transformative as the` invention of calculus. Cheers, Santosh P.S. Also, encouraging or shaming the RSS and other Hindu extremists into joining the military would be the worst calamity anybody could wish upon India. --- On Fri, 6/25/10, floriano wrote: > > Chauvinisam V/s Patriotism - By Adv. Radharao F. > Gracias > > Our self-belief in our greatness is unfounded, and is the > cause of India's downfall, says Adv. Radharao F. Gracias. > > It was sometime at the beginning of the 19th century > that a soldier in the French Emperor Napoleon's army, when > asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched > against its neighbours, gave the classic reply: "My > Country, therefore right" (later modified as: "My country, > right or wrong"). The soldier's name was Eduardo Chauvin > (not Faleiro). He gave the world and entirely new concept: > 'chauvinism' >
[Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Dear All, After the recent incident in Dubai over the weekend, regarding Churchill Alemao; I had a very long conversation with Mr. Churchill Alemao this evening and I appreciate, that he took time out of his busy schedule to speak to me, on genuine/critical issues facing Goa & Goans. We agreed that I send him the list of requirements that many Goans in UAE think are needed for the preservation of Goa & our Prized Goan Identity; and for our posterity. Churchill informed me that he will take up the issues with the Goa Government and try his best to realize it. We also discussed possible "CAN DO's" for our cause, in a positive manner. Sincerely, Arwin Mesquita (Abu Dhabi, UAE)
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Question: did you believe him, or just got floored by the fact that a ruling politician acknowledged the cyber-nuisance-potential of someone active in cyberspace? FN On 26 June 2010 23:13, Arwin Mesquita wrote: > Dear All, > > After the recent incident in Dubai over the weekend, regarding Churchill > Alemao; I had a very long conversation with Mr. Churchill Alemao this > evening and I appreciate, that he took time out of his busy schedule to > speak to me, on genuine/critical issues facing Goa & Goans. > > We agreed that I send him the list of requirements that many Goans in UAE > think are needed for the preservation of Goa & our Prized Goan Identity; and > for our posterity. > > Churchill informed me that he will take up the issues with the Goa > Government and try his best to realize it. We also discussed possible "CAN > DO's" for our cause, in a positive manner. > > Sincerely, > Arwin Mesquita (Abu Dhabi, UAE)
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
-Original Message- From: Arwin Mesquita > After the recent incident in Dubai over the weekend, regarding > Churchill Alemao; I had a very long conversation with Mr. Churchill > Alemao this evening and I appreciate, that he took time out of his > busy schedule to speak to me, on genuine/critical issues facing Goa > & Goans. RESPONSE: Arwin..Et tu??? Et tu??? And there are Goenkars running around saying Goan politicians are fools...the smart alecs.the joke on us buddy!!! As I chuckle on this issue.."took time out of his busy schedule"."genuine/critical issues facing Goa & Goans".here is the kicker."he will take up the issues with the Goa Government"!!! - B
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
AND, The Winner is !! CHURCHILL ALEMAO all the way !! So much for the mega Rhetorics and burnt up cyberspace. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS: And we thought we could discount Churchill Alemao Uh??? - Original Message - From: "Arwin Mesquita" To: "Goanet" Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update) Dear All, After the recent incident in Dubai over the weekend, regarding Churchill Alemao; I had a very long conversation with Mr. Churchill Alemao this evening and I appreciate, that he took time out of his busy schedule to speak to me, on genuine/critical issues facing Goa & Goans.
[Goanet] Goa news for June 27, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa's hall of shame! - Indian Express ench-of-bombay-high-court-refuses-bail-to-pacheco-33065&usg=AFQjCNFY9-O1WxsdoWlOmr3xy48qDw5G8g">Goa Bench of Bombay High Court refuses bail to Pacheco http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Goa-s-hall-of-shame-/637362/&usg=AFQjCNHBIe-dK9P2YpOsxGicR8jvO9MRGg *** Goa minister quits post, House, before getting into cabinet again - Daily News & Analysis ainted-goa-politician-joins-congress-news-national-kgyskfejbjg.html&usg=AFQjCNHZKgRroCTRTBz7mEqDx2Ix9xj4vg">Another tainted Goa politician joins Congress http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-minister-quits-post-house-before-getting-into-cabinet-again_1400837&usg=AFQjCNHgGcsuaa8ouoULtE7TpdDggxR3VQ *** Atala to continue in Goa despite deportation order, say cops - Times of India ome-minister-bolts-from-media-news-national-kgywOcbijca.html&usg=AFQjCNE_aLr99d332dAArOTQa-94TlE_WQ">Goa home minister bolts from media http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Atala-to-continue-in-Goa-despite-deportation-order-say-cops/articleshow/6088712.cms&usg=AFQjCNE1MG8wIvcyVQkMYEgPzl3iYJ7VEA *** Romance with rains: Goa tells tourists - NDTV.com ants-tourists-to-romance-with-rains&usg=AFQjCNHCcgWFcRCJY_Rb8zcpua_34-HxRA">Goa wants tourists to romance with rains http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/romance-with-rains-goa-tells-tourists-33627&usg=AFQjCNFVmyNBlI5eH0y6-JaTYMZYqf7BeA *** Goa second-most unsafe tourist destination: Survey - Times of India o-call-goa-unsafe-tourist-destination_100385850.html&usg=AFQjCNEar2ugoHnLKygCiq4g9Z6_F7i4sA">Wrong to call Goa unsafe tourist destination http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-second-most-unsafe-tourist-destination-Survey/articleshow/6088697.cms&usg=AFQjCNGmqwMlhSLwMDce-qwA2t39eEUP6Q *** Indian Surgeons offer Gastric Bypass Surgery in Goa at Fewer Prices - PR-inside.com (press release) nside.com (press release)Gastric bypass Surgery in Goa at world renowned hospitals is offered along with a rejuvenating holiday at fewer prices. Highly skilled super specialist ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.pr-inside.com/indian-surgeons-offer-gastric-bypass-surgery-r1969505.htm&usg=AFQjCNFt0goFitM-LzI_uODPJRkgS7V7mQ *** Law will take its course in Pacheco case, says Goa minister Alemao - GulfNews lfNewsChurchill Alemao stressed that the government is committed to ensuring that Goa remains a top tourism destination. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/law-will-take-its-course-in-pacheco-case-says-goa-minister-alemao-1.646434&usg=AFQjCNGZP5ahtlRPMFsckr3waLjerlTqNA *** To Experience Live Rain Dances on Beaches of Goa ! - Rang7.com kM"> http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.rang7.com/news/tourism/experience-live-rain-dances-beaches-goa-507.htm&usg=AFQjCNHiP5I19ThB6FrBg4YwoqHi8Ubs9A *** Goa's milk supply still unable to meet demand' - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: While the state government has simplified the Kamdhenu scheme to attract more farmers to dairy farming, the rise in milk production in Goa is not ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goas-milk-supply-still-unable-to-meet-demand/articleshow/6093597.cms&usg=AFQjCNHFYiU9hh-_ChLlX7v6D7w00GaBww *** We need accountability, collective responsibility - Times of India mes of IndiaThose who say that development is bad for Goa actually mean to say that the change in Goa is at too rapid a pace. It is foolish not to want progressive ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/We-need-accountability-collective-responsibility/articleshow/6093062.cms&usg=AFQjCNHYyEZRXb_OULFc8GZcMw5d2rXs_Q Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Goa minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai ( Response by Agnelo Pinheiro )
6. Re: Goa minister gate crash at San Joao event in Dubai (Querobino Fernandes) -- Allow me to clear few facts in reply to Querobino post in reference to my initial post. A) I never mention the the name of the minister in question. B) Washing Minister or MLA's is our right as they are elected to represent for the people. They are public servants. C) People vote based on manifesto presented to them but after election manifesto is out in a bin. This cycle is repeated every 5 years. D) If NRI have not voted them and have no right to wash them than why NRI's go licking Politicians BOOTS. Why invite them for functions and give political colour to social events? E) I have a proof from one of the Event Manager of Global Goans Dubai that the minister came un-invited. Its on record on Global Goans website. F) Let's all go home, but will it change the political landscape of Goa? G) Keyboard has a power, 'Pen is mightier than sword' H) Goans have been working/migrating for centuries but they knew their land and homes are safe. Are they now? I) I have maintained my voting rights and voted in every election except one since 1992. Unfortunately I could not keep my birth record as they went missing this year from the Sub-Registrar's office- Margao J) With due respect to all fellow Goans, our brains will function better when we stop eating pork, pork is contagious and main culprit of our ills, pork causes Encephalitis(an acute inflammation of the brain). Mog Assum!
[Goanet] Nadia's dying declaration appears doubtful: HC
Nadia's dying declaration appears doubtful: HC TNN, Jun 26, 2010, 04.42am IST PANAJI: The high court of Bombay at Goa while rejecting the anticipatory bail application of former tourism minister Francisco “Mickky" Pacheco on June 21 observed that “prima facie there is material on record to show a very close relationship between Pacheco and Nadia Torrado". Justice A S Oka also observed, “The deceased was already married. There is some material on record to show that the deceased travelled by air as a spouse of the tourism minister, which was the post held by the applicant." The court noted that as per material collected during investigations there was conversation between Nadia from her cellphone and Mickky’s cellphones from May 13 to May 15. “The prosecution claims that the scientific analysis of the details of the cellphone of the applicant shows that the applicant was present in the house of the deceased on the night of May 14, 2010," the court observed. Considering the investigation record submitted by the public prosecutor, the court stated that it is found that the applicant was all along present at the Appollo-Victor Hospital at Margao, Jupiter Hospital, Thane and Appollo Hospital, Chennai. “The investigation reveals that though there is no specific material on record to show that on May 16, 2010, when the alleged dying declaration of the deceased was recorded he was in the premises of Jupiter Hospital, but there is material to show that he was nearby the hospital (sic)," the court said. Referring to the documents submitted by the prosecution, the court further stated that the record shows that when the deceased was admitted to Apollo Victor Hospital at Margao, the case history notes only the consumption of Ratol. However, the case history recorded by the Jupiter Hospital at Thane on the same day also notes the consumption of 0.25 mg tablets of Restyl. It was recorded that there was a consumption of 20 tablets by the deceased on the evening of May 14, 2010, the court noted. “It is pertinent to note that the socalled dying declaration records that the deceased consumed Ratol by mistake on the morning of May 15, 2010. Surprisingly, the deceased was shifted to Apollo Victor Hospital in Goa in the afternoon after 3pm. At that time the applicant was present. Therefore, the case of accidental consumption of Ratol in the so-called dying declaration of the deceased appears to be doubtful," the court remarked. While holding that the custodial interrogation of the applicant was required, the court opined that considering the manner in which the incident occurred, the offence appears to be of a very serious nature. The court also made it clear that its observations were only for the purpose of deciding the bail application and should not be construed as any finding recorded by the court.
Re: [Goanet] The Distorted Vision Of Our Freedom Fighters In Goa
2011 December is the cut-off date [50 years] if any Goan or Goan Organization can muster up their balls and contest the invasion of Goa by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru in the Haig - The World Court. It should be easy with the Supreme Court of India's ruling that Goa's so called ' Liberation' in 1961 was 'conquest by invasion' by India. Goa should have taken the example of East Timor and gone about getting what was rightfully due to Goa and Goans, hanging by the high masts cowards like connivers Lambert Mascarenhas, Naguesh Karmali and many many others. It would have been good riddance to bad rubbish. At least the 'Special Status for GOA will probably be the by-product of this challenge which will otherwise never see the light of the day until GOA is immersed completely into the mainstream India. Any Goans wants to say something on this topic??? You are WELCOME Please read carefully who is saying what ! It is GOA SU-RAJ PARTY. How about Matanhy Saldanha? He is the only guy who has been and is harping on "Special Status for Goa." We have not seen any one else doing that, including Lambert Mascarenhas, the guy who delivered Goa on the silver platter to India and who now is crying foul that Goans are opting for Portuguese Passports. What did he expect. When Shit from India comes a flowing into Goa, he expects Goans, who have been nurtured in a culture for centuries alien to the culture of mismanagement like 'garbage every where' will opt to remain in Goa? So that Lambert Mascarenhas' eyes are fully opened-UP at his ripe old age, somebody should dump a load of garbage in front of his gate at La Marvel Colony, Dona Paula and keep it there for a week so that he suffocates, like his Goa, which he helped to liberate, suffocates. [This is to respond to his letter in the Goan Observer of June 26- July 2, 2010 - captioned PORTUGUESE NATIONALITY" Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasur-raj.org - Original Message - From: "manuel tavares" To: Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: [Goanet] The Distorted Vision Of Our Freedom Fighters In Goa Freddy Writes:' Goa after a being ruled by the Portuguese for over 400 years, was finally free of foreign rule...' Do you really think that we are now freer than we were under the Portuguese rule, or is the "so called" Liberation only a change of one set of Masters for an even harsher set? Let us define what freedom really is. Goa only had freedom before the Portuguese came. True freedom or Liberation would have meant that the Liberators hold a plebiscite to determine what the Liberated really wanted (The will of the people) other than absorption or annexation into India as is the status quo.That would be true freedom. Regards..Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares.
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
On 26 June 2010 18:43, Arwin Mesquita wrote: > Dear All, > > > > After the recent incident in Dubai over the weekend, regarding Churchill > Alemao; I had a very long conversation with Mr. Churchill Alemao this > evening and I appreciate, that he took time out of his busy schedule to > speak to me, on genuine/critical issues facing Goa & Goans. > > > > We agreed that I send him the list of requirements that many Goans in UAE > think are needed for the preservation of Goa & our Prized Goan Identity; > and > for our posterity. > > Churchill informed me that he will take up the issues with the Goa > Government and try his best to realize it. We also discussed possible "CAN > DO's" for our cause, in a positive manner. > > > > Sincerely, > Arwin Mesquita (Abu Dhabi, UAE) > REPLY: This what he is quoted as having said QUOTE "There is a person called Arvind Mesquita [in the UAE] who is trying his best to smear my name at the behest of former minister Luizinho Faleiro. I visit the UAE regularly and if this person [Mesquita] is straight and has the guts, he must step forward and tell me on my face," Alemao told *Gulf News*. "I am not a politician by nature, but I was forced to be in this position because of the will of the people who have elected me. I believe in development of my state and if there is someone who does not believe in the principles I stand for, then he should be man enough to step forward and tell me so on my face instead of running a campaign," he added. UNQUOTE Full read @ http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/law-will-take-its-course-in-pacheco-case-says-goa-minister-alemao-1.646434 .Now you have to put up and shut up. When you get some joy do give us an undate! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Re. Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Dear Bosco, My response to you only is because, your opinion is of someone I respect. Has any other NRI Goan Organisation given Critical Goan issues to any Politicians visiting their countries(or even questioned them); besides wining & dining them? He message to me is that I never brought the issues to him for him to resolve; and from that angle I have done now my part and need to be fair, in the spirt of the conversation for him to deliver. Regards, Arwin Message: 10 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:30:57 -0400 From: Bosco D To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update) Message-ID: <4c268db1.3020...@canada.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed -Original Message- From: Arwin Mesquita > After the recent incident in Dubai over the weekend, regarding > Churchill Alemao; I had a very long conversation with Mr. Churchill > Alemao this evening and I appreciate, that he took time out of his > busy schedule to speak to me, on genuine/critical issues facing Goa > & Goans. RESPONSE: Arwin..Et tu??? Et tu??? And there are Goenkars running around saying Goan politicians are fools...the smart alecs.the joke on us buddy!!! As I chuckle on this issue.."took time out of his busy schedule"."genuine/critical issues facing Goa & Goans".here is the kicker."he will take up the issues with the Goa Government"!!! - B
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Gabe Menezes wrote (possibly) to Arwin Mesquita: "Now you have to put up and shut up. When you get some joy do give us an undate!" COMMENT: Gabe, please go easy on Arwin (Arwind). Surely, he is much younger than we are, idealistic like we were as teenagers, but lacking in the smarts to understand that Politicians are just that . Politicians. Experience will teach him like it surely has taught us. Moral of this Meeting + Gulf News article: Keep away from politicians and political operatives. They are never good news. Without a second thought, they will do a Shivaji on you anytime & any place i.e. Stab you in the back with Smiling at your face. The way forward: Avoid these scumbags, Study hard, Work hard .and enjoy life with your family and friends to the fullest possible..and avoid the scum like the plague. jc
[Goanet] Goa political system.
This is with reference to message no.2 of Goa news letter. Political system is not for Goa only.It's the constitution of the nation that decides about the political system.In a few more years,Goan voters will be overpowered by voters from north India.Around ten years after we will see a Vidhansabha with Goan candidates in minority.That's after two more elections.Ways of living are already changing.The poor labourers brought from neighbouring states find Goa as heaven for them. Goans have to give their proud and "sucegaad" nature and compete with hard work.It's high time to think about far sighted future Vidhansabha. Selfishness of the present elected members will ruin them and their way of present living.They only will have to repent for the same. Damodar Bale,NJ,USA.
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Gabe Menezes provided the following link: http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/law-will-take-its-course-in-pacheco-case-says-goa-minister-alemao-1.646434 QUOTE "There is a person called Arvind Mesquita [in the UAE] who is trying his best to smear my name at the behest of former minister Luizinho Faleiro. I visit the UAE regularly and if this person [Mesquita] is straight and has the guts, he must step forward and tell me on my face," Alemao told *Gulf News*. "I am not a politician by nature, but I was forced to be in this position because of the will of the people who have elected me. I believe in development of my state and if there is someone who does not believe in the principles I stand for, then he should be man enough to step forward and tell me so on my face instead of running a campaign," he added. UNQUOTE - Folks, If there is anyone out there that knows of any Goan politician who needs great public relations, please forward him my email address. This is the season to make money. Lots and lots of it. Mervyn1650Lobo
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Goan politicians ARE the problem, they cannot be part of the SOLUTION. Of course any pimp is going to promise a good time in the brothel, that is what they have made Goa. The mining industry, building industry along with the political brothel has reduced Goa to a sorry law and order state. And these are rhe people who are supposed to be trusted? George
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
Dear Arwin, What you have done is definitely appreciable and a positive step towards the struggle to save Goa. We have to put forth our demands before the elected representatives, no matter what our personal opinions about them may be. You need to put down your demands in writing and send it to him. Keep it up! -Soter
[Goanet] Fake marriages an Indian industry: Canada
Goanetters, http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Fake-marriages-an-Indian-industry--Canada/634593/ There's no 'IN GOOD FAITH' about it! BIG HEADACHE FOR CANADA AND COUNTRIES WHICH PERMIT THESE PEOPLE RESIDENCY. Hopefully, these queue jumpers are not members of the Caste System, Dowry System, religious extremists, illiterates or Non English speakers. rubygoes
[Goanet] Daily Grook #738
DAILY GROOK #738 = WED AHEAD = by Francis Rodrigues a doctor as bride, asian men do hope, eyeing with pride her status'scope! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388
[Goanet] Re. Conversation with Churchil Alemao
Gabe, Not sure what your intentions here but FYI this was out to the Press before my conversation with him. Arwin REPLY: This what he is quoted as having said QUOTE "There is a person called Arvind Mesquita [in the UAE] who is trying his best to smear my name at the behest of former minister Luizinho Faleiro. I visit the UAE regularly and if this person [Mesquita] is straight and has the guts, he must step forward and tell me on my face," Alemao told *Gulf News*. "I am not a politician by nature, but I was forced to be in this position because of the will of the people who have elected me. I believe in development of my state and if there is someone who does not believe in the principles I stand for, then he should be man enough to step forward and tell me so on my face instead of running a campaign," he added. UNQUOTE Full read @ http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/law-will-take-its-course-in-pacheco-case-says-goa-minister-alemao-1.646434 .Now you have to put up and shut up. When you get some joy do give us an undate! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (Update)
I would like to apologize to the All Goa Pimps Association for incorrectly comparing them to Goan politicians. In a private email today, I have been made to realize even pimps have some ethics and comparing them to Goan politicians lowers pimps unfairly to the sewer of Goan politics. George Private email received: "The All Goa Pimps Association objects to you bundling them with politicians!" --- On Sat, 6/26/10, George Pinto wrote: > Of course any pimp is going to promise a good time in the > brothel, that is what they have made Goa. The mining > industry, building industry along with the political brothel > has reduced Goa to a sorry law and order state. > > And these are the people who are supposed to be trusted? > > George
Re: [Goanet] Chauvinism V/s Patriotism - Adv. Radharao Gracias
Santosh Helekar wrote: > But I am sure most readers of the article have more sense than to believe any > aspect > of the cartoonish picture sketched by it. Contributions to human civilization > involve much > more than military prowess and scoring goals - indeed, much more than even > technological > advancement. There is language, art, music, dance, literature, sculpture, > architecture, cuisine, > philosophy and numerous other areas of human endeavor that characterize any > culture and society. Santosh, I started to read the first few lines of the original article and stoped, knowing that it would not pass any giggle test. The only reason I am replying to your comment is because I read an even funnier military article in the Canadian press today. As you may be aware, the Canadian Govt is of the opinion that the war in Afghanistan is one worth fighting for, at least until 2011. Barack (blessed be, his name) Obama is in Toronto today, trying to convince the other G8 countries to support his war efforts there. The US position is that they need a few more years to train the Afghan military before they leave. HELLO! The Afghans have defeated every invader that was dumb enough to enter their territory. If anything, it is the Americans who should be asking the Afghans for military training. Secondly, India managed to get rid of its last invader without having its infrastructure destroyed. This feat was closely studied in Africa and at times, was actually replicated. Lastly, those studying the Greek or Roman or even the British contribution to the world realize that long after their respective military mights had disappeared, what remained of value, was their contribution to democracy and the arts. Mervyn1650Lobo
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Bainchi Kholai Pollevn Baint Udki Marchi
Bainchi Kholai Pollevn Baint Udki Marchi Bhurgeaponnar hanv ani mhojea boroborchim vanddeantlim bhurgim Sam Juanv Porbechi vatt polloit astalim. Ken’na kai Junachi 24vis tarik yevnxi distali. Vaddeantle vhoddil tea disa bhouch umedin ani moujen Sam Juanvchi porob vaddeantle baint udki marun somarombhtale. Iskol aslolean, sodanch survatecho monorojonn amkam chuktalo. Punn eka vorsak, Sam Juanvchi porob, Aitarak aileli. Amchea vaddeant Lourdinho Irmanv aslo. Vesaien to ek dorji. Zhantte pirayeak lagon tachi dixtt komi zait vetali tea khatir to chodd kopdde xinvonk ghenaslo. Punn, vorsachea vorsa Sam Juanvche porbe nim’tan vaddeantlea sogllea bhurgeank sobit lugtanchim rongit fulam bosoun mhatteak ghalunk kopelam xinvtalo. Sokallchea sumar 10 vorancher Lourdinho Irmanv eka panttulean kopelam ghalun khursa sorxim ailo. Taka pollevn vaddeantlea bhurgeancho zomo tache sorbhonvtim zalo. Tannem bhurgeank kopelam vanttlim ani unnem poddloleank thoinchea thoim xinvon dilim. Vaddeantlo ek-ek voddil, zhaddachim panam ani fullam aslolim kopelam mhatteak ghalun khursaxim yevnk lagle. Ek-eklo yeta mhonllear 11.30 vazlolim. Dhol-tas ghevn Camil, ani tache fattlean khodd’de Caitan saxafon ani Thomas trumpet ghevn monorojonank toyarechi vaitt polloit ravtale. Vaddeantle sogott malgodde khursaxim ube zale ani magnnem-rozar korun Sam Juanv yeo re Saiba-- muzgachea tallar kantar ghaun somarombhak survat zali. Laginch aslole Carasialo ghora baint, Santachea nanvan aslolo Juao-van baint poili udki marli ani bainche kholayek vochun ek soreachi botl vhoir haddli. Soglea bhurgeamni tallio pettoileo. Carasialache ghorkarnin, somarombhachea kharbarea thaim onsam, ponos, ani bhurgeam khatir foren chokleti ani thodde duddu dile. (Carasialo tarvotti aslo.) Saguad mellcheli survat, bori zaloli. Dusri palli,amchea ghora tekhun aslolea ghorabean, ghorvam rakpachem kam’ kortolo Baptist-achi asli. (Tachem nanv, Sam Juanv Baptist-ak zoddop zatalem mhunn kai?) Baptist, baint udki marpak bhouch huxar aslo. Tambeachim aidonam anik kosleo-i mollacheo vostu baint chukun poddlear, tim baintlim vhoir kaddpak lok taka apoitalo. Sumar 10 tem 12 mintam to udkan buddun ravtalo mhunn, hanv aikon zanno aslom. Tannem baint udki ghetoch Sam Juanv baint poddlo saiba, hattik dorun vhoir kaddat taka. Hem muzga tallar kantar suru zalem. Bhurgeam bhorim Lourdinho Irmanv ghaupachi bouch umed dakhoitalo. Ani hanv asa titloch fors ghalun mottean ghaitalom. Hanvem aikololem. Mottean ghaitolea bhurgeank subeij chokleti melltat mhunn. Portean-portean Sam Juanv baint poddlo saiba ami ghait aslim. Baptist-an baint udki marlear panch mintam odik zalolim. Hattak dorun vhoir kaddtat taka…..ghaun-ghaun ami bezarlolim. Baint poddlolo Sam Juanv vhoirich pavuna zalo. Soglle gombhir zale. Akant ailo. Soglleanchea tonddam bhavlim. Muzgamni vazoipachem bond kelem. Santano, anik ek huxar penvpi, Baptist-acho husko dakhoilo ani toch zaun baint udki ghevnk toyar zalo teddnam, tech vellar Baptist hatant tin batleo ghenv baintlo vhoir sorlo. Don soreacheo zalear eke botlin xembor rupiachi nott asloli. Soglleachea tonddar uzvadd poddlo. Bhurgeamni, Baptistak nettan tallio pettoileo. (Uprant amkam kollun ailem, botlin aslole xembor rupia bhair kaddpak Baptist yotn kortalo mhunn) Sam Juanv ghunvtta toso ghunvtta, Sam Juanv sorea magota. Boroch torad zalolo lembddo Forsun kantar suru kelem. Hangasorlem thoim ani thoinchem hagasor irleaxea sorea khatir to lobaddponna korta mhunn, taka lembddo Forsu nanvan voddkitale “Shuu--uu! Vog’gi rav re. Sam Juanv sorea mhagota vo tum magot re?”, Onkol Timotin vicharlem. Bhurgim kakad ghalun bhouch hanslim. Vaddeantli ekui baim chukoinastona udkeo marun thoddo vell moujen sarun donparchea 2 vorancher Sam Juanv portean vaddeantlea khursaxim ektthaim zalo. Onkol Fernandon, sanjechea sat vorancher khursaxim ladayin astoli mhunn sanglem. Ladayini uprant, lokan diloleo khavpa vostu, soro ani duddvanchi vantnni kortole mhunn jahir kelem. Chokleti dilolelo teo mat, somarombhak haiir aslolea bhurgeank, vattun dileo. Amkam poddloleo chokleti kha-it hanv, xezarchem Effie ani Ida cholot ghora vetana Clementinachi avoy Filomena, aple dhuvechea kensak dorun baddea cheddvachi thokli churchure nastona oxi-toxi zoddpaitali. Tigelem dharun kortub pollevn ami tegaim thoktaklim. Te vatten Lembddo Forsu pasar zatalo. Effie-n taka vicharlem. “Aga tiva, Filomen aunti, Clementinank kiteak marta re?” “Nokoi tum baye? Agostinho-an, Clementinache baint udki marli ti” oxem sangun to vochot ravlo. Clemintinache baint udki?Hanv chintnanim poddlom. Aiz Sam Juanv. Agostinho-an baint udki marlear, cheddvak kiteak marop? Porbecho dis. Aiz tor soglle, baint udki martat. Oxem chintint ghorache sopna (stairs) choddtana mhagelea avoychea utranchi bas zali. Poir tedus Clementina amgher ailolem ani mhoji avoy taka sango. “Bhurgo boro baye. Punn tum, ajun kolej xikta thoinch asa. Favo tea vellar favo teo vostu. Ajun tuji idad zali nam….”, avoychim utram m
[Goanet] Game of Visualisation
http://www.navhindtimes.in/iexplore/game-visualisation The chess activity centre, Taleigao along with the International Centre Goa, Dona Paula has come up with first of its kind concept of blindfold chess in Goa. The demo of the same was hosted at the International Centre, on Saturday. The president of the chess activity centre, Mr Srikant Barve said he often experiments to improve the concept of chess. This effort came into being when he thought of involving more spectators. “Usually chess game has few spectators. This is the first attempt to involve more spectators and a way to attract sponsors. Such effort will actually boost children and will also help them to improve their mind game at different levels,” explained Mr Barve. This game of blindfold chess does not play the way name hints. Mr Barve utters there is no blindfold tied to the player. Of the five players, three players play the game and the other two are held back for replacement. It is a thought processing concept and involves lot of visualisation. “In this game the player does the announcement of the move in alphabetic notations. A move writer accompanies the move announcer in penning down the notations. The move announcer imagines the pieces on the board and his announcement directs the third player to move the pieces on the board, not seen by the first player. The stop watch for each team is controlled by the third player in the game” explains Mr Barve. The rules for this game are set by Mr Barve. It states that the move announcer and the move writer can discuss the move but the final announcement has to be made by the move announcer itself. The two referees will supervise the game, Mr Barve reiterates. Mr Barve explains the objective of this game lies in visualization. This process of visualization trains the young minds and explores their creative side. Mr Barve is planning to promote this game in schools and now also preparing for a competition that would take place in the month of August. He adds this mind game won’t follow Swiss-league type of championship. The losers won’t be given second chance to play. Game comprising of three rounds will have pawn moves, pawn and king moves and moves of all the pieces. Total set time limit for the game would be for 20 minutes. Mr Barve said the set timing for the competition is sufficient to pressurize the players to visualize. “I have full confidence;” Mr Barve adds and continues “My concept will be accepted by the parents and children.” His vision for the new concept is to reach the International level and play with the international masters and grand masters. *(Registrations are open for all age groups. The demo of the same is held on every Saturday at ICG, Dona Paula.Those interested can contact on 2451143). * -- Your's Sanjay Barve (9403176657) Secretary, Chess Activity Centre Visit : http://cacgoa.blogspot.com
