[Goanet] Somoz Sevak

[Freddy Fernandes]

Somoz Sevak

 

Ramu ani Raju, dogui borech ghott ixtt-mitr, sodanch barabor astat ani sodanch
Goykaram vixi uloitat, Ramu  goanettacher vachtat, Dubai xarant bhagvont
Xavier'achea porbe-disa ek dansacho karyakram asa mhunn, ani thanchi oxi bhaxabs
zata:

 

Ramu : Zannam mure tum Raju, Dexembrache tin tharker Dubai xarant ek dans asa 

 

Raju sott korun mhunnta : Tatunt novem kitem asa ? Kristanv lokachem ani kitem ?
Tankam festam, lognam, tiatr ani dans mel'lear tanchem zalem, dusrem kitem-i
tankam podlam ?  Bas, ka jai, piye, ani mouza mar, hench tanchem zivit.

 

Ramu tidkin mhunnta : Hanven taka lagun mhunnuk nam re, hanv tuka sangunk sodtam
tem hem, tea dansacho mukkeli "denngi" (sponsor) khonn to zannam ? 

 

Raju rokdoch : Khonn, thuimcho Sheikh kitem-re ?

 

Ramu : Nam re baba, Goyemcho Sheikh, Sheikh Churchill Alemao

 

Raju : Kittem mhunn-tai re tum ? Hangasor Goykarank lutun lutun, thuim Sheikha
lutunk vetha kitem-re ?

 

Ramu : Thuim Sheikhak lutunk vetha vo Dawoodak mellunk vetha tem Dev zannam

 

Raju : Rau re, Dubaiche Goykar taka-ch kityeak vortat, ani khonn-ui boro munis
mhevona kietm tankam ?

 

Ramu : Hoi tankam tachea boro khonn mevona astolo,  Dansu nu re, to Dubai tiatr
passun sponsor khorta. Dubaiche Goykar assat nhuim tachi ladd khaupache,
hangasor to Goykarank pidadid ditat ani thuim taka Deva baxen buztat, shee baba,
kosle Goykar re ? Tankam poixe mhel'lear puro, goyant kitem zata tem tankam
kityeak podlam ?

 

Raju : Churchillachem  kitem ghellam ? Tachea gha---k tras podleat ?
Goykaramchea fustar Churchill fozne marta.

 

Ramu : Ani ek khobor asa, tea dansak mukeli paunnem khonn te zannam ? 

 

Raju : Khuicho Sheikh astolo ?

 

Ramu: Sheikh nhoi, Sheikhinna Valanka Alemao

 

Raju : Wha ! Bapaichea kumpasar chedum nachta. Rau-re, Valanka advogadh num-re ?

 

Ramu : Vhoi, tem advogadh punn aazun kitleo khexi zuzlam tem konnank khobor asa
?

   

Raju : Kitem mhunnta-re tum, advogadh ani khexi zuzonam ?

 

Ramu: Advodadh navank, punn somazachi seva khorta oxo prochar cholla.

 

Raju : you mean social worker ?

 

Ramu : pixo zalai, social worker mhullear Churchill dovorta tuka ? Dynamic
social worker mhunn, aiz khal fexeon  zalam,
Churchillache ghorche sogle, dynamic leaders, dynamic social workers ani dynamic
politicians, hache mukar tankam fokot Dynamic Alemao's mhunnpachem. 

 

Raju : Hanv matxe gunspollom, goanettar dansachea flyeracher khali social worker
mhunn dilam

 

Ramu : toxem zalear organizarachem khotta, Churchill kitem mhunntolo tem zannam
? I challenge the organizers,   Valanka is not social worker but a
dynamic social worker ! Aikolam tumi ?

 

 Raju : Khorench to taptolo ? 

 

Ramu: Taptolo mhunnche to mhukeli denngi mure, main sponsor flyeracher boroilam
" this event is brought to you by Churchill Brothers" mhunnge, "hi ghoddnni
tumche passot haddlea Churchill Bhauanni" Thuimsor anik ekdam chuk zali, "hi
ghoddnni tumche passot haddlea khodeghant Churchill Bhauanni" oxem asunk zai
aslem.

 

Raju : Ramu punn maka attvench dista, tacho put (son) khuim asa ?

 

Ramu: Chedum advogadh, punn khexi zuzonam, chedo pilot punn uddanam (flying)
khorina, kityeak zannam ?

 

Raju : Kityeak re Ramu

 

Ramu: Dynamic bapain, dynamic burgeank, Goykaramchea fustar dynamic "petti"
bhorun dhovorleleo asat, tankam anik kitem zai ?

 

Raju : Punn somaz savek theo "petti" khalli zaucheo-nat ?

 

Ramu: Raju tum azun somaz sevak-acho ort nokllo, zo munis porje khatir ek "pett"
khali khorta ani porje khodlean panch petti borun ghetta takach somaz sevak
mhunntat, nam zalear Churchillak polle murer !

 

Mog assum

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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Re: [Goanet] COLUMN: Remembrance

[floriano]

If only this nation which is falsely galloping to be the superpower of the 
world,  And .. men and women wanting to be in the Forbes top 10  list of 
wealth accomplishers, politicians who nurse the ambition of sitting on the 
Prime Minister's throne..., MLAs wanting to be the Ministers and Chief 
Ministers, Journalists making and breaking aspirants for  Ministerial 
berths,  forgetting their oath to the Fourth Estate,  Priests wanting to be 
Swamis, Acharyas, Bishops,Cardinals and Popes  would only take a good 
look at MK Gandhi called 'BAPPU'


History has been written over just one question  that was uttered: "HOW 
WOULD IT BENEFIT YOU IF YOU WON THE WHOLE  WORLD AND LOST YOUR SOUL"


Unfortunately, this will never be the lesson to be learnt in the 21st 
Century



Very well written that, Venita

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org


- Original Message - 
From: "Venita Coelho" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:21 AM
Subject: [Goanet] COLUMN: Remembrance


Remembrance
By Venita Coelho


I attended a remembrance get together for a friends father this weekend.
As he spoke about his father and all that he stood for I was reminded
strongly of my own father – indeed of an entire generation that we are
now losing.  A generation of educated, middle class, government servants
– who lived life on very strict terms and to very high values.

They believed in honesty and integrity and lived by their commitment. 

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Frederick Noronha]

On 24 November 2010 10:52, George Pinto  wrote:

> Please note, answers to the questions
> above does not guarantee a wine
> recipe will be provided.

George, you are deliberately playing footsie to confuse the issue
here. As you probably know, the recipes are already available here:

http://indianwine.com/cs/blogs/about_wine/archive/2009/07/31/successful-goan-home-wines-book-review-and-three-wine-recipes.aspx

As you would see from the above post (and my treating of Goan wine as
a subset of Indian), I am not anti-India per se, but just dislike some
aspects of post-1961 colonialism! (That comes from the BC influence
via Macau.)

Now that my neutrality and independence as a so-called wine  info
junkie has also been challenged, I would like to endeavour to show
that I've been involved in this field since the year of our Lord of
1947. It is not true that I started asking such questions only after
Digukaka ascended the seat of power in Panjim. Here are some links
that prove this fact:

FN: Frederick Noronha’s blog
Various themes that interest me… Free Software, Goa, books,
developmental issues…
Posts Tagged ‘wine’
http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com/tag/wine/

[Goanet] Seeking information... on wine
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg51347.html

Obituary: Edwin Saldanha... (father of Yvette, Kevin, Patsy, Jenny .
http://osdir.com/ml/culture.region.india.goa.saligao/2007-08/msg00014.html

Wine? From tropical fruits... ? - India Travel Forum | IndiaMike.com
http://www.indiamike.com/india/goa-f23/wine-from-tropical-fruits-t10091/

Most importantly:
Why Vedanta verdict is just new wine in old bottle
http://groups.google.com/group/india-ej/browse_thread/thread/67c8f6978c17f57

I will continue on this point later, once I find the archives of the
pre-1994 internet.

Goanetters being Goanetters, one of them actually sent me this
insulting post, which really questions my credentials. He wrote in
from Europa: "Fred, I thought you didn't drink. Or are u like Mr
Costa? Cheera all the same... "

What next! FN

[Goanet] DNS to observe Black Day on November 25

[Goanet News Service]

DNS to observe Black Day on November 25
HERALD REPORTER
PANJIM, NOV 23


A local group ‘Deshpremi Nagrik Samiti’ (DNS) will hold a protest march 
on November 25 against glorifying Portuguese rule in Goa.


In a letter to the Archbishop of Goa and Daman, Giriraj Pai of the DNS 
has said that it will observe November 25 as Black Day as a protest 
against activities aiming to glorify the Portuguese.


“This is to draw your attention to several activities in the recent 
times, which are aimed at glorifying the cruel Portuguese rule in Goa. 
You may recall that recently, a Portuguese naval ship ‘NRP Sagres’ was 
docked in Goa to commemorate completion of 500 years of Portuguese 
setting foot on our beautiful motherland,” organization member Giriraj 
said in the letter.


He said that the protest will be a reminder of the most forgettable and 
humiliating rule of the Portuguese.


“It was on this day in 1510 that the Portuguese stepped on Goan soil 
with the evil motive of colonization. This marked the beginning of one 
the most brutal and barbaric era in Goa’s history; an era of 
dictatorship, forced religious conversions, slavery, destruction of 
temples, and exploitation of the local populace,” he further said.


The protest march, which will start from Mahalaxmi temple at Mala to 
Azad Maidan will also to pay respect to freedom fighters.



http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/DNS-to-observe-Black-Day-on-November-25/43180.html

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Edward Verdes]

Fred, the wheat is added to the mixture of crushed grapes for clarity of the 
wine.
I am not an expert in wine making but I had tried this from a receipe back 
in Mumbai,
specially when you are making wine from black grapes, the clarity of the 
wine is the best,
when wheat is added...in the end when you filter you see the wheat takes the 
extra colour.


Eddie Verdes


- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Noronha" <



Please, could someone tell me about wine? I'm dying with all the suspense.

Meat, motives, halal, urine theraphy, 100% veg... last year...
everything but wine!

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Frederick Noronha]

I'm sorry, I eat my words about the winemakers. They're not as bad. I
got a hint of an answer.

How reassuring! My faith in humankind has been restored:

http://www.winemakingtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=90900#post90900
Posted by: djrockinsteve
On: 11-23-2010 11:27 PM

Wheat can be added to wine during fermentation to give it a more
whiskey like flavor. Common in areas of Wales.

Don't recall anyone on here mentioning it. It's just another
ingredient used to alter the taste of wine.

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Frederick Noronha]

As my friend Linken of Chandor (yeah, he spells his name that way,
though I don't think it's meant to deliberately insult good ole
Abraham) once said, all ism's sooner or later turn into religions and
get bad. Including tourism! FN

PS: He said something to that effect. This was in 1983, in quite
another age, during the time of the CHOGM Retreat, if I recall right.

PPS: The http://www.winemakingtalk.com/ guys are as bad as Goanetters!
They won't let me post a URL or email address till I'm five posts old
there. And how does one discuss wine without a URL? (I don't mean
URine!)

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

On 24 November 2010 10:30, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro  wrote:
> Since this thread is ostensibly about winemaking, and has been derailed by the
> adherents and opponents of various isms (kosehrism, halalism, urineism), I
> suspect that FN threw in the word "Goanese" to start another controversy and
> further delay respondents from supplying the knowledge about wineism that he 
> is
> so suspensefully seeking.:)))

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[George Pinto]

--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro  wrote:

> Since this thread is ostensibly about winemaking, and has been derailed
> by the adherents and opponents of various isms (kosehrism, halalism,
> urineism), I  suspect that FN threw in the word "Goanese" to start
> another controversy and further delay respondents from supplying the
> knowledge about wineism that he is so suspensefully seeking.:)))
>     Victor


Please clarify if this is wine-making as it relates to:
1.  Pre-1961?
2.  Atheists or believers?
3.  Congress or BJP winemakers?
4.  Migrants?
5.  Corrupt Goan ministers?
6.  The Inquisition?
7.  Non-Brahmins in Panjim who did not vote for Parrikar?
8.  Anti-nationals?
9.  Konkani groups who favor Romi script?
10. Miners and mega-builders destroying Goa? 

Please note, answers to the questions above does not guarantee a wine recipe 
will be provided.

George

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Victor Rangel-Ribeiro]

Since this thread is ostensibly about winemaking, and has been derailed by the 
adherents and opponents of various isms (kosehrism, halalism, urineism), I 
suspect that FN threw in the word "Goanese" to start another controversy and 
further delay respondents from supplying the knowledge about wineism that he is 
so suspensefully seeking.:)))
    Victor





From: Frederick Noronha 
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 12:37:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

Please, could someone tell me about wine? I'm dying with all the suspense.

Meat, motives, halal, urine theraphy, 100% veg... last year...
everything but wine!

How many Goenkars does it take to get some info about wine? I'm headed
here (as JC would suspect, to further malign the fair name of the
Goanese)
http://www.winemakingtalk.com/

FN

f&fbe

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] Niira Radia's East Africa connections

[Frederick Noronha]

Interesting!

Niira Radia's East Africa connections
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/masala-noodles/entry/an-encounter-with-niira-radia

[Goanet] Affidavit that boomeranged!

[U. G. Barad]

On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 the pressure on government which was mounting
for over fortnight over 2G Scam issue in Supreme Court appears to have been
eased by an affidavit submitted by newly appointed attorney general
Vahanvati. But, towards the end of argument for the day over the affidavit,
Supreme Court directed A. G. to submit the list of all the pending
corruption cases, awaiting proper sanction. This is bound to upset all the
previous scam-ministers, scam-politicians, scam-businessmen whose cases are
intentionally kept to pileup by sanctioning authorities for years. 

Read more on this issue at: 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/2G-spectrum-case-SC-pressure-on-PM-
eases/articleshow/6978788.cms

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

[Goanet] St Francis Xavier Nite 2010 (Dubai)

[Goanet Events]

Promise
from
Sapil

in Association with

Aroma Classic

presents

St Francis Xavier Nite 2010

Thursday, Dec 2, 2010 from 9pm onwards

at

Astoria Hotel - Bur Dubai


Chief Guest: Ms Valanka Alemao (Social Worker)


In Attendance: The Big City Band


Tickets: AED 120 (Inc. of Buffet), Child: AED 60 (5-10years Inc. of Buffet)

Compere: Melvin

Dress Code: Smart Casuals:

Sponsors: This event is brought to you by Churchill Brothers


Flyer:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/swemvHcHxs8Rp_DUAa4WCA?feat=directlink

[Goanet] COLUMN: Remembrance

[Venita Coelho]

Remembrance
By Venita Coelho


I attended a remembrance get together for a friends father this weekend. 
As he spoke about his father and all that he stood for I was reminded 
strongly of my own father – indeed of an entire generation that we are 
now losing.  A generation of educated, middle class, government servants 
– who lived life on very strict terms and to very high values.


They believed in honesty and integrity and lived by their commitment. My 
father was entitled to an official car, but the one time his driver gave 
us a lift to college, he begged us not to tell Dad or he would have got 
fired for misuse of official property. When, during a union agitation, 
the union leader abused all the officers as thieves, my father stepped 
forward and slapped him. The Union leader was a skinny Bengali and 
collapsed on the spot. Everyone waited in tension, because the Unions 
were legendary for their violence and aggression. When the leader came 
around he simply said ‘This man dared to slap me because he is an honest 
man.’ After that, whenever the officers were gheraoed, Dad always got 
home early because the agitators would slip him out the back gate.


Austerity was part of their code as well. We never wasted anything. Nor 
did we every buy anything that Dad considered wasteful. In later years 
he was baffled by the idea of brand names that pushed the cost of 
objects into the stratosphere. It was beyond his comprehension that 
people could pay five figures and more for things like jeans. The habit 
of getting my wardrobe off the footpath has stayed with me all my life.


That generation also had a very active social conscience. They had lived 
through the birth and first cycle of Naxalism. They had also inherited 
first hand much of Gandhi’s philosophy.  ‘Inclusion’ wasn’t a fancy word 
in our household – it was simply what we did in everyday life. Growing 
up in Calcutta, we children wished the rickshaw wallas, thanked the shop 
keepers, and played cheerfully with the children from the small ghetto 
next door. Long after Dad was gone we began to discover just how many 
people he had helped out, how many children he had given an education 
to, all the small causes he had supported.


The men of that generation were all spartan to a surprising degree. They 
walked wherever they could, or took the bus.  Train travel was a huge 
novelty for us children, and even now when I stand on a railway platform 
I feel a tingle of excitement and adventure. Catching a plane on the 
other hand feels much like catching a bus these days.


I watched my father’s bewilderment as the world changed into something 
he could not deal with. The corruption on every front left him 
frustrated. The impoliteness of every day dealing made angry. The 
erosion of values left him cynical. His value system left him completely 
hamstrung in the new India where getting ahead was what mattered, not 
how you did it.


We shared our remembrances of the father who had died. But we were also 
sharing our memories of those who had made us what we are. By today’s 
yardstick our parents would be considered losers. They never managed to 
build homes, they never owned cars, they never put away a fat bank 
balance. But they achieved what we are finding it so difficult to do. 
They achieved lives cleanly and decently lived. They were moral 
compasses for their children and for those around them.


Growing up we looked down on Dad’s staid middle class life, with the 
arrogance of the very young. We felt that he was old fashioned and 
regressive and we were the young rebels who would usher in change. It 
was only in later years that I learnt to appreciate that in his own way 
my father had supported the best kind of change there was. ‘Social 
inclusion’  ‘Values’ ‘Moral Integrity’ – we learnt the labels later, but 
we saw them in action in our parents lives.


Now we are slowly losing that generation. And what a loss it is. As the 
gap between the privileged and the unprivileged widens to a gulf, as 
consumerism washes over India, as simple values are swamped by the creed 
of getting ahead we need more than ever the remembrance of people past. 
Simple people who lived simple lives. It is time to remember all our 
parents and all that they gave to us.  (ENDS)


==
First published in the Herald, Goa - November 23, 2010

[Goanet] GOA Dance on Dec 18th!

[Ralph Figueiredo]

Hello everyone! Happy Thanksgiving from the GOA!

 

We still have a few tickets left in 3 colored sections for our Christmas
Dance. Once they sell out, you'll be allocated seats in the White tables
section, so please pick your tickets ASAP. 

 

Additionally, our early bird discount ends in a week and you will then
have to pay full price of $50.00 per adult ticket. This event is always
a sellout, so please get your tickets while they are still available to
avoid any disappointment later. Web site for payments is
http://goansofamerica.com/events.html

 

New Update: We will have a mass on the 18th as well. From 6pm - 7pm. If
you'd like to attend the service, please arrive on time. We are looking
for talented singers for our mass choir. If you'd like to join the
choir, please email Maxie Mascarenhas with your contact information.
Maxie has been CC'ed on this email. 

 

Dance Details: Date: December 18th 2010 7pm - 1am (Dinner will be served
at 7:30pm)

Buffet Dinner: The DoubleTree Buffet. 

Dress Code: Formal. 

Venue: Doubletree Hotel Santa Ana/Orange County Airport Hotel. 

201 East MacArthur Blvd.

Santa Ana, California 92707

714-825- www.doubletreeocairport.com
  

Discounted prices for hotel rooms on Dec 18th: $72.00+Tax. You may call
the DoubleTree directly and book asking for the 'GOA' special rate or
click on our personalized link below for the discounted GOA rate and
book online.
http://doubletree.hilton.com/en/dt/groups/personalized/S/STAOCDT-GOA-201
01218/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG

 

There will be a live band performing all evening and we promise to keep
you on the dance floor all night! 

For you wine connoisseurs, feel free to bring your own wine bottle to
the event. A corkage fee of $10.00/bottle will apply. You will be
responsible for checking it in with the Banquet Captain.

If you'd like to donate a spot prize, please email us what you'd like to
donate. Please gift wrap your prize and bring it to the event and a huge
Thank You in advance

GOA SAT AWARD: 

Thanks to the generosity of Tony Azavedo,CPA, and Alfred Braganza, the
G.O.A. is proud to offer the G.O.A. S.A.T. Award. This is the 14th year
of this prestigious award. It is a great incentive to our students to
excel and compete.

 

All 11th and 12th grade scholars are invited to apply for this annual
G.O.A. S.A.T. Award. It consists of a $600.00 cash prize and a Plaque.
As in the years past, scores will remain absolutely confidential. One of
the parents should be Goan. The scholar must be present to receive the
Award. 

Kindly submit your test scores, duly countersigned by your School
Counselor by December 1st to Alfred Braganza: 2201 Greenfield Ave., Los
Angeles, CA 90064.

The SAT Committee: Tony Azavedo,CPA, Alfred Braganza and Audrey Dias,
Member Ex-officio. 

Lastly, we have Santa making his grand appearance before dinner, so
please make sure to leave your child's gift with their name in the
designated area provided, prior to the event. 

We look forward to seeing all of you on the 18th!!

 

Audrey Dias
GOA Los Angeles

[Goanet] FW: GLOBAL GOANS CONVENTION -2010 - Knee jerk reaction.

[Oscar Lobo]

Mario,

In addition to the dance ane contradance, did you know that there was 
also a 7-A side one day football tournament on the 1st and 2nd day of 
the convention.


Were people kept busy like CRABS for SHEKSHEK and is it true that the 
organisers were busy pulling/inviting the delegates on the grounds.


Kesoleh Goenkar reh amee? Xikon korun brutt?

Shee baba!

Regards

Oscar




From: oscarlo...@.

Hello Mario,

Thank you for a copy of your e-mail of 22 November 2010.

Were you there for the GGC 2010, please?

Did you know that there was a dance on the first day of the convention 
and organised by a group of Goans in the same hotel?


Where were you for the convention or the dance or contradance.

Kind Regards

Oscar C. Lobo
Melbourne

[Goanet] Understanding Medieval History

[Gilbert Lawrence]

I saw the History Channel presentation of the Ten Commandments.  

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=69599

This is not a religious program; but a look at societal's vices and crimes and 
how these were viewed (and emphasized) through history and in different 
cultures.  Depending how these vices and offenses were viewed, the punishment 
followed.  


Those describing and arguing about the Inquisition in Goa and elsewhere may 
want 
to look at this program to understand the history of the Medieval period / 
Middle Ages and modern world.  


The program explains the 'how' and the 'why' various vices and crimes of 
society 
were viewed in various degrees of severity compared to today.

Regards, GL

[Goanet] Result of XII Annual all Goa Tiatr competition

[Goanet A-C-E!]

Result of XII Annual all Goa Tiatr competition
Published on: November 19, 2010 - 23:14 
More in: iWATCH

Tiatr ‘Korta ti Vatt’, written and directed by Avito Fernandes, 
presented by Goykaranchi Konkani Bhas, Songit, Kala Ani Sanskrutai 
Kendr, Merces, bagged the first prize at the XII Annual All Goa Tiatr 
Competition organised by Vandana Productions in collaboration with the 
Sangeet Natak Academy, New Delhi and Directorate of Art and Culture Goa.


The competition that was held at the Pai Tiatrist JAF Auditorium, 
Ravindra Bhavan, Margao from November 8 to 18 was judged by alumni and 
ex-lecturer of Kala Academy’s school of drama, Gokuldas Borkar, well 
known violinist and presently principal of Pilar Music School, Margao, 
Br Inacio D’Souza and creative writer, Konknni activist and staunch 
tiatr mogi, Neville Mascarenhas.


‘Kusvo’ staged by Ami Daizi, Fatorda, scripted by Conciecao Fernandes 
and directed by Avinash Chari walked away with the second prize for best 
performance while ‘Udorgoth’ produced by the Britona Dramatic Academy 
penned by Augie D’Mello and directed by Sachin Chougule won the third place.


‘Pacharem’ by Alfi Art Productions, Divar, ‘Thembe’ by Krist Kreation, 
Divar, ‘Kalliz Dukhoilem’ by Youth Creation Taleigao and ‘Faleam Konnem 
poilam’ by Shri Ganaraj Sangit Sanskrutik Mandal, Quitula were winners 
of the consolation prizes.


The following individual prizes were also awarded: Best direction first 
to Avito Fernandes for ‘Korta ti Vatt’, second to Avinash Chari for 
‘Kusvo’; acting male first Tushar Mandrekar for his performance as 
Crowon in ‘Udorgoth’, second to Ajit Kamat as Raul Pinto in ‘Kalliz 
Dukhoilem’.


For acting female first prize went to Aesica Barreto for her role as Dr 
Minu in ‘Korta ti Vatt’, second to Samiksha Desai for her role of Dr 
Sonia in ‘Kalliz Dukhoilem’.




Other winners…

Best Settings Shyam Kalangutkar and Kapil Chari for ‘Kalliz Dukhoilem’
Best Light Effects Keshav Kerkar for ‘Thembe’,
Best Band Agusto de Panchwadi and group for ‘Kusvo’,
Best Make Up Fermino Goes for ‘Korta ti Vatt’,
Best Costume to Suzeta Pereira for ‘Kusvo’,
Best Background Music to Sourabh Karkhanis in ‘Udorgoth’,
Best Script to Augie D Mello for ‘Udorgoth’,
Best lyrics to Peter Camilo for ‘Udorgoth’.
Best Singer Solo Male first Seby Dias in ‘Pacharem’, second Francis 
Pinto in ‘Kusvo’,
Best Singer Solo Female first Sonia Shirsat in ‘Kalliz Dukhoilem’, 
second Livia Menezes in ‘Korta Ti Vatt’,
Best Duet first Anthony Fernandes and Sonia Shirsat for ‘Kalliz 
Dukhoilem’, second Conceisao and Reema for ‘Kusvo’,

Best Duo Minoslla and Judith in ‘Faleam Konne Poilam’,
Best Trio  Deepthi, Preethi and Jocelynn in ‘Korta Ti Vat’,
Best Quartet Camilo Sisters in ‘Udorgoth’,
Best Comedian Bento Vales Satyanarayana in ‘Thembe’.
Special prize for child singers Kareen Mascarenhas in ‘Kusvo’, Shanice 
in ‘Thembe’



Merit certificates were awarded to Rupesh Jogle Jayson, Nazareth Pinto, 
Ivy Pereira for ‘Kusvo’, Rama Naik for ‘Faleam Konne Poilam’, Robert 
Rodrigues for stage setting for ‘Korta Ti Vatt’, Johnny D Silva in 
‘Udorgoth’, Andrew D’Souza in ‘Kalliz Dukhoilem’ for solo singing


The prize distribution ceremony is scheduled to be held on November 21 
during the presentation of award winning tiatr ‘Asro Zai’ scripted by 
Agnelo (Borim) and directed by Avinash Chari and presented by Vandana 
Productions Borim, at 3.30 p.m. at Pai Tiatrist JAF Auditorium, Ravindra 
Bhavan, Margao.




(The award winners are requested to personally collect awards. For 
details kindly contact Agnelo Borim 9822983541)



http://www.navhindtimes.in/iwatch/result-xii-annual-all-goa-tiatr-competition


Goanet A-C-E!
Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment

Re: [Goanet] Opting for Foreign Citizenship

[J. Colaco < jc>]

On 23 November 2010 11:26, Frederick Noronha  wrote:

FN[1] Firstly, I don't believe you need to abuse people you disagree
with. Or even call them "Tommyboy".

Response: Anyone who classifies hard-working Goans in a derogatory
manner needs to be abused as a bigoted Tommyboy.
==

FN [2] Secondly, this "sacrificed and struggled in harsh climes and
conditions" argument you're making sounds like a modern-day mythmaking
exercise you are indulging in.

Response: With due respect to your unjustifiably held prejudices, I
suggest that you restrict your opinions to subjects you know something
about. You know as much about the the Goans who struggle in the Gulf
as you know about the Alcoholism in Goa study (you sent up to the
Times of India), the Sidis and the Daman bridge (of 1981) .
==

FN [3] Without saying so in as many words, you're suggesting that the
decision to migrate was an OPTION in sacrifice and struggle.

Response: No ... NOT an OPTION but an EXERCISE. BTW: Your statement
suggests that you are quite ignorant esp about Salcete.
==

FN [4] While migration (and many other things -- marriage, motherhood,
fatherhood, being a doctor, working in shifts, being a part of
Goanet...) does undeniably involve "sacrifice and struggle", anyone
would agree that people migrate for a complex set of reasons.

Response: Please spare me this nonsense. You appear not to have the
slightest idea about the struggle of these Goans.
==

FN[5] We do not migrate for the sake of Goa,  or the Goan economy. We
do so because we need to earn a living, seek greener pastures, or find
ways of better fulfilling our potential. There's the lure of the
greenbacks. Maybe because we have to support a FAMILY -- but so do
people who don't migrate. We do so because we (rightly or otherwise)
believe we don't have scope back home.

Response: Without this sacrifice, there would be NO family.
==

FN [6]  But to suggest that those who migrate are taking on some
additional cross, or indulging in philanthropic or  social work is
just far from the reality.

Response: First of all, read accurately and then come to an
assessment. Otherwise you will be spreading more bogus stories like
the one about the Daman 1981 bridge.


BTW: Rajan Parrikar has laid a serious charge against you. When will
you respond to that?

Conclusion: I personally believe that (as far as Goa is concerned)
individuals like Frederick Noronha, his mentor (Devika Sequeira), The
rag known as the Heraldo and other so called journos have been
enablers of the Corruption that has descended upon Goa. Goa has been
looted while these 'holier than thou' watchdogs behaved (and continue
to behave) like lapdogs of the politicians. I am watching another
lapdog (website) edited by someone who has the similar surname as I
have.

They are invited to prove me wrong - even abuse me .(and I hope
Frederick Noronha will answer Rajan Parrikar's charge).

jc

Re: [Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[Santosh Helekar]

--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:
> 
> COMMENT : May I ask Santosh what denied
> freedom is he talking about?  Only freedom of speech?
> Or Freedom to spit all over the walls of the city?
> Freedom to defecate by the roadside? Freedom to loot, rob,
> extort, kill, bribe,
> cheat, etc. the the Goans?
> 

The freedom to speak out against the government, freedom to choose elected 
officials, freedom to run for elected office, freedom to petition the 
government, freedom to agitate and to engage in political activism, freedom to 
practice one's own lifestyle, freedom to practice one's own religion, freedom 
to defend oneself, freedom to fight against injustice, freedom to fight for 
one's cause, etc.

Cheers,

Santosh

[Goanet] Goa, list, families...

[Frederick Noronha]

Strange that Goa doesn't feature on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_families#India

[Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[U. G. Barad]

I value all the benefits spelt out by Dr. Ferdinando as I am born prior to
1961 and experienced those benefits. 

Secondly, I also believe every coin has two sides. So also where there are
benefits there are bound to have losses too. In this context, after reading
'all the benefits' Goa and Goans enjoyed prior to 1961, as written by Dr.
Ferdinando, I am tempted to ask Dr. Ferdinando to also specify some, if not
all, the disadvantages or rather loss which Goa and Goans suffered for over
450 years under Portuguese rule.
 
This will help the new generation paint the correct picture of 'profit and
loss account of Goa before and after 19th December 1961' and probably help
them displace this picture in Panaji on coming 19th December 2010. 
  
Best regards,

U. G. Barad

[Goanet] Scrap freedom fighters pensions 50 years is enough

[Bernado Colaco]

True the ff pensions should be stopped. In fact these chaps are traitors to 
Goa. 
Traitors are usually hanged or shot. The 'thinkologist' on this forum talks of 
democratic self-rule and freedom to express. Can I ask him how much freedom of 
speech is there in this so called 'democracy'? Did they not jail Father Chico 
for expressing the so called 'freedom of expression'. What is happening in 
Caxmira? ..
 
BC
 
 
Those who believe that foreign occupation and dictatorship are better than 
democratic self-rule have the freedom to express themselves today. Those who 
believe otherwise can do so as well, a freedom that was denied to them under 
foreign occupation.

[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (24Nov10)

[alexyz fernandes]

*** Movies at IFFI we'd like to see: I ***

Highway Robbery

Starring: Church Alemao, CM Kamat as Villians

Heroes: Highway Diversion Action Comm., Others


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org

Re: [Goanet] Why I am not an atheist

[Mervyn Lobo]

Bernado Colaco wrote:
> The currency we use locally is called the Pataca and is pegged 
> to which was once a country built on Christian beliefs. 



Well, I guess my two red cents are safe.
The Pataca was once backed by silver. 
It is now backed by paper, paper from "which was once a country 
built on Christian beliefs."



> Let me endorse the best version of Malaika.  I liked the versions 
> by Miriam Makeba and Agelique Kidjjo. Do you still stick to the 
> original of F. Williams?


 
Hee hee hee. 
I am surprised you did not endorse the version found in the "Greatest
Mandarin Song Book." 


Mervyn1650Lobo

[Goanet] NEIGHBOURS: Reality and politics in Karnataka

[Goanet News]

Politics: RSS-BJP
Crumpled Khaki
The old mindset or diluted pragmatism? RSS in a bind.
Prarthna Gahilote

In A Twist...
* RSS, conservative and set in its habits, is
  now forced to deal with new members, new
  trends, new political dynamics
* There's lack of communication between senior
  functionaries and grassroots workers
* Too much emphasis on expansion, not
  consolidation. Core activities are being ignored.
* Ideology is being compromised to keep BJP in power
* The Sangh now seems less assertive and more
  apologetic

***

For the record, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) claims
all is well and under control. Ten days after K.S. Sudarshan,
a former sarsanghchalak, lashed out at Sonia Gandhi, calling
her a CIA agent and accusing her of crimes even more
preposterous, the Sangh's office-bearers assert that "the
issue is over and the embarrassment from Sudarshanji's
remarks long gone".

At the Sangh's offices at Jhandewalan in Delhi, pracharaks
also say the issue was blown out of proportion and that the
RSS has made it clear that Sudarshan's views aren't the
official view of the RSS. The BJP, too, has steered clear.
Rajya Sabha MP and party spokesperson Tarun Vijay says,
"Whatever political differences we have with her (Sonia
Gandhi) must be addressed within an accepted, democratic
framework and behaviour."

While this position may go down well in Delhi, grassroots
workers are disappointed at the Sangh's handling of the
issue.

  Murmurs about how the seniors abandoned Sudarshan
  are now being heard from pracharaks in the RSS's
  smaller units in the states. In the Sangh
  stronghold of Madhya Pradesh, there is
  disappointment. One Sangh leader says, "We feel let
  down. The cadre is demoralised. If the Sangh and
  the central leadership of the BJP can abandon
  someone like Sudarshanji, what about us?"

The RSS top brass believes the issue will be forgotten.
Perhaps, it will be. But insiders say the Sangh is going
through a churning, and a crisis of sorts, that goes beyond
the Sudarshan incident.

"The RSS is an old organisation, but it has new people now.
And new people have brought in new trends. The core ideology
of the Sangh has been forgotten. Such problems are bound to
happen," says Prof Balraj Madhok, a veteran Jan Sanghi. "I am
surprised at the Sangh's response to Sudarshanji's remarks.
Had it been the RSS of the old times, things would have been
dealt with differently."

PHOTO: Storm Boys Indresh Kumar, facing terror charges;
Yediyurappa, swamped by scams

Senior leaders believe that changing times and changing
political dynamics are causing a degree of turmoil both in
the parivar and the BJP. "The stakes are too high," says one
leader. "The RSS is under compulsion to keep the atmosphere
stable for the BJP. That is where the dilution has crept in.
Sangh leaders today are unsure how much to intervene and
where to keep a distance when it comes to political matters."

That's perhaps why the Sangh's political arm, the BJP, ends
up drumming its own drill. Even though only five months ago,
the RSS, in its annual coordination meeting with the BJP
leadership, had come down heavily on the party for "lack of
mutual communication...and not being an effective
opposition", little has changed.

The RSS had also conveyed its resentment over the "dilution
of the BJP's core ideology in the functioning of the party"
to senior party leaders like L.K. Advani, Sushma Swaraj,
Nitin Gadkari, Rajnath Singh and Murli Manohar Joshi, who had
attended the eight-hour meeting in June. The BJP was also
told that senior leaders must resolve differences amicably
and the leadership must speak in one voice.

Sudarshan's outrageous comments are not the only thing. The
RSS is forced to be apologetic on other counts too.

  According to RSS insiders, the BJP has done little
  in the recent past to rein in its leaders in
  Karnataka on the corruption issue in the state. The
  problem stems from the need to hold on to power,
  which is why Karnataka chief minister B.S.
  Yediyurappa continues in power despite the Reddy
  brothers and their mining scams or the
  land-grabbing by several BJP leaders, including the
  chief minister's kith and kin.

The RSS has voiced its protests -- but in token fashion. The
Sangh has to constantly keep in mind that the BJP needs to
stay in power in the state. This is the reason many in the
RSS are fast learning to ignore the prevalent evils in the BJP.

"There was a time when corruption was unacceptable,"
says a source. "Now, workers are told we need to take people
along. The RSS is caught in its own trap. In its desire to
expand and increase the number of shakhas, it has forgotten
to consolidate its base."

Discomforting situations like the one in Karnataka have now
cropped up in party-governed states like Chhattisgarh and
Madhya Pradesh as well. "Where ideolog

[Goanet] Graft row threatens India PM legacy

[U. G. Barad]

'Graft row threatens India PM legacy, exposes weakness' this article is
carried by most of the local and national dailies. 

Read more at:

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/analysis/2247-graft-row-threatens-india-pm-legacy-
exposes-weakness

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Frederick Noronha]

Gotcha! Good one doc. That was very funny! FN

On 24 November 2010 00:19, J. Colaco  < jc>  wrote:

> Arre FN,
> The answer is right in your post.
> Add Urine to wine to get Vinho Branco
> Add Halal meat to wine to get Muscatel
> how about that to the one who wants to say Goanese?

[Goanet] Goa news for November 24, 2010

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa not good for international film festival: Chopra -
IBNLive.com
xWjgYxuLzf-vZzalokz_8g
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNE_ntewfhCEu4icqE98yKWQGhda4Q&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/goa-not-good-for-international-film-festival-chopra/135666-8-66.html

*** NFDC's Film Bazaar opens in Goa; sees increased attendance -
Business of Cinema
siness of CinemaGOA: The fourth edition of Film Bazaar India
2010 of the National Film Development Corporation (NFDC) was
inaugurated in Goa today on the sidelines of IFFI, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNG5QTRfYbP-Nk57HstBXnVwORBVbg&url=http://www.businessofcinema.com/news.php?newsid=17333

*** IFFI: Singer-Actor Ila Arun in Goa to promote 'West is West'
- RadioandMusic.com
s-west-kicks-off-indian-festival.html">'West is West' kicks off
Indian festival
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFsZMmPdE9tnaQx4NM5GVLcVcgn6Q&url=http://www.radioandmusic.com/content/editorial/news-releases/iffi-singer-actor-ila-arun-goa-promote-west-west

*** Tilak Nagar Ind to acquire Goa wine company - Commodity
Online
ased distillery, Kesarval Springs Distillers Pvt Ltd ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNH_YfXkomcn1FYgqnzUd_FV_J-seg&url=http://www.commodityonline.com/commodity-stocks/Tilak-Nagar-Ind-to-acquire-Goa-wine-company-2010-11-23-33701-3-1.html

*** NFAI opens exhibition at International film fest in Goa -
Times of India
4UPA
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEfVAN1evdT-6t9ufShImqAkBrWrw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/NFAI-opens-exhibition-at-International-film-fest-in-Goa/articleshow/6972230.cms

*** Goa is lucky for me: Ajay Devgn - NDTV.com
TV.comPTI With all three of his Golmaal films making it big at
the box office, Bollywood superstar Ajay Devgan feels that Goa
is lucky for him. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNH4nwbL5aZrOo6R7_wubUzXSsap8g&url=http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?section=Movies&Id=ENTEN20100160936&keyword=bollywood&subcatg=MOVIESINDIA&nid=68035

*** Surendra Sirsat appointed new Goa NCP chief - Bombay News
">and more »
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGp5AKB-A9lQHTGe_wji8Kgwuw23Q&url=http://www.bombaynews.net/story/71

*** Urbanisation will spell disaster for Goa: Green filmmaker -
IBNLive.com
NLive.com"Rampant unplanned urbanisation will spell disaster for
the local inhabitants of Goa. It is imperative that you learn
lessons from other cities and ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFsL2JPGGRcyqLIFL7ZnJvZu-O06g&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/urbanisation-will-spell-disaster-for-goa-green-filmmaker/135698-8-66.html

*** People robbed of smiles, but clowns still try! - Hindustan
Times
aired Jonathan Seglins, better known as Circus Jonathan, one of
the more than half a dozen clowns who descended on Goa as part
of an ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEnQ4nFqtytdh1nKJ_ZOK7eDC5YpA&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/lifestyle/People-robbed-of-smiles-but-clowns-still-try/Article1-630010.aspx

*** Chota Cinema to promote Goan filmmakers - Washington Bangla
Radio
fM">and more »
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEiz1X4k7i1XR2YfTu7wQdfDMmTnQ&url=http://www.washingtonbanglaradio.com/content/111521510-chota-cinema-promote-goan-filmmakers


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

[Goanet] Film Screening during the IFFI Festival at Art Chamber

[Goanet A-C-E!]

Hosted by

GOA FILM ALLIANCE

@

Art Chamber


Where? At Art Chamber, Castelo Vermelho Calangute


Nov 24 - Screening - Jhin Chik Jhing (Marathi)
Nov 27 - Screening - Arambol Experience (French)
Nov 28 - Screening - Tere Bin Laden (Hindi)
Nov 29 - Goa Film Alliance Launch Reception (by invitation only)
Nov 30 - Screening - Achin Paakhi (Bengali)
Dec 1 -  Screening - Elektra (Malayalam)
Dec 2 - Screening - Dazed in Doon by Ashvin Kumar. Filmmaker will be 
present for Q&A.
Dec 3 - Screening - Indian Cafe by Harish Rao (short film) and Good 
Night, Good Morning by Sudhish Kamath (feature film)


On the 29th Nov there will be the official launch of the Goa Film 
Alliance at 7pm. Further screenings and workshops in film making and 
script writing will be announced



Wednesday, Nov 24th

JHING CHIK JHING

2009, 116 min., Colour, DVD, Marathi, English Subtitles

Directed by Nitin Nandan

Synopsis

Shyam is an everyday small boy, mischievous and very inquisitive. His 
world is made up of Mouli (father), Manda (mother), Dipti (sister) & 
Gautam (best friend). The family lives in a small house on their cotton 
farm, somewhere in Central Maharashtra. The family earns its meager 
living by growing cotton, which is sold at the local Government Cotton 
Mill. But Shyam is least concerned with all this. Most of his time is 
spent in exploring, discovering & playing with Gautam. The major 
concerns in his life are the state of his school uniform (a hole in his 
pants) and whether his mother will make bhajjis (fritters) for dinner. 
Shyam’s idyllic life is thrown asunder when he realises that his family 
is reeling under debt and his father has all but given up hope of ever 
getting his farmlands out of mortgage. All dreams of a new school 
uniform & bhajjis come crashing down. After overcoming his initial 
dejection, Shyam takes it upon himself to save his family. He is not so 
easily overcome by his parents’ sense of impending doom. The lessons he 
has learned at school give him reason to hope. One day in school, he 
hits upon a scheme that might just do the trick - a sack race that 
carries a winner’s prize of Rupees. 10,000/-. With the help of Dipti and 
Gautam, he begins practicing with the sack for the big day. Mouli is at 
first perplexed by Shyam’s antics but later joins in enthusiastically. 
After all he wants to see his family happy in its last few days. 
Meanwhile our little hero is dead set in his practice (sack racing is 
tougher than it looks), with a single-minded aim of saving his family. 
Come D-day, Shyam runs the race of his life – literally! But can he save 
his family?


Director’s Biography

Nitin Nandan is a debutant filmmaker. Born in Maharashtra, India, Nitin 
is a Post Graduate in linguistics and has worked widely in television as 
a director, researcher and scriptwriter on a wide range of topics like 
environment; self-help groups and diversity of India’s culture. A 
television series on environment Bhoomi, telecast on India’s National 
Television Doordarshan, directed by Nitin was nominated for the Indian 
Television Awards and for the Vatavaran (Environment) film awards. Nitin 
has worked as a director on one of Indian television’s path breaking 
show “Surabhi” which featured India’s rich cultural heritage. A short 
film- I Am Still Standing - written and directed By Nitin on the ‘Warli’ 
tribe of India was part of the television series Bhoomi, funded by the 
Ford Foundation. Nitin has assisted on a short film Say It Isn't So... 
which was screened at the New York Film Festival of 2001.Nitin has also 
assisted renowned filmmaker Shyam Benegal on the film Sardari Begum. 
Jhing Chik Jhing is his debut feature film directorial venture.




Goa Film Alliance and its Mission

The Goa Film Alliance (GFA) is an alliance of filmmakers, passionate 
about promoting, supporting and nurturing the spirit of Global 
Independent Cinema.


Goa historically has been a multicultural hub of diversity. Its 
coexistence of diverse religions, expatriate, foreign and local 
communities make it an ideal platform for a progressive new form of 
storytelling method through film. The GFA is set to create an amalgam of 
diverse cinema with a focus on the global audience, which is relatively 
novel development in Indian cinema.


The ongoing mission of the organization is to foster development of 
narrative feature film, TV productions, documentary films, as well as 
screenings and showcases of independent cinema using Goan resources, 
environment, community and intellectual resources.


The Alliance has its home at the Art Chamber with its famous translucent 
dome. Art exhibitions, classical concerts, theatre and film screenings 
are taking place regularly throughout the year. Placed between Calangute 
and Candolim but behind the noisy tourism stretch in the peaceful 
residential area under palm orchards it is best suited for meaningful 
cultural activities. Besides screenings, workshops are being held in 
various fields 

Re: [Goanet] Politics, lies or Ignorance?

[Santosh Helekar]

I give below more evidence of Ferdinando's fake bluster, and penchant for 
advertising his belief in his superiority in terms of class and intellectual 
qualifications, in almost every post that he writes on Goanet. Please see this 
quote:

QUOTE
Santosh, what I write on Goanet is for intellectuals and rational humans and 
not for those who cannot comprehend the English language, from Marathi medium 
who follow “Urban Dictionary” for their English requirements.
UNQUOTE
Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão

But this time he appears to have stated what his real qualifications are. 
Please see the quote below:

QUOTE
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. M.B.,B.S.(Bom)
Margão - GOATel : + 91 . 832 . 2703 100.
UNQUOTE

So it is now clear that he is not a qualified psychiatrist, as was implicated 
on Goanet before. He also does not have any special education in English or 
Goan history, as he seems to be implying repeatedly here.

What is worse, however, is that despite having completed the minimum 
qualifications required to become a general medical practitioner in Goa, he 
does not understand the meaning of the term genetic mutation, as is evident 
from the following medically ignorant statement of his:

QUOTE
Santosh, I think you must have heard about cross-pollination in your college 
days. With a “Migrant Nagar” in your village Chimbel and also a Home for the 
deranged in the vicinity; I was just thinking aloud about genetic mutation.
UNQUOTE
.Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:
> 
>
> On Sat Nov 20 20:47:57 PST 2010 Santosh Helekar chimbelcho
> at
> yahoo.com wrote: << could not answer simple
> straightforward questions regarding your qualifications and
> the pre-1961
> history of Goa.>>>
>
> COMMENT : Santosh, you seem to be getting increasingly more
> ignorant
> and asinine with every post of yours. You ask questions and
> say there was no
> answer, then quote me as to what I stated as an evidence of
> me claiming to have
> superior qualification. If the answer to your question is
> in front of your eyes
> and quoted from your mouth and you still feel there is no
> answer; I think you
> are incapable of conversing with another human. You know
> Santosh, when I  was young in the 50’s, my father
> used
> to tell me that the mad people of Goa used to be sent to
> Chimbel. I believe
> there was a home there for the deranged. Are you by any
> chance  aware of it?
>
> 
>
> Santosh said:<<< Please let me know if you need
> any more
> evidence of your undeserved and foolish bluster in what you
> have written on
> Goanet.>>>
>
> 
>
> COMMENT : Santosh, what I write on Goanet is for
> intellectuals and
> rational humans and not for those who cannot comprehend the
> English language,
> from Marathi medium who follow “Urban Dictionary” for
> their English requirements.
>
> Santosh, I think you must have heard about
> cross-pollination in your
> college days. With a “Migrant Nagar” in your village
> Chimbel and also a Home
> for the deranged in the vicinity; I was just thinking aloud
> about genetic
> mutation.
>
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. M.B.,B.S.(Bom)
> Margão - GOATel : + 91 . 832 . 2703 100.
> 

Re: [Goanet] Politics, lies or Ignorance?

[J. Colaco < jc>]

 Gabe Menezes  wrote: Had the same questions,
re status referee been asked of the Greatest guru ever to grace Goanet
M.G. what would his answer have been?



COMMENT: Gabe, please be respectful of Shri clinician Doctor MBBS
(Bom) 1976 who did something magical to the Goa gorrment when he was a
medical student in 1971.

In the case of Shri clinician Doctor MBBS (Bom) 1976 v Santoshbab, I
am on the "shri doctor's" side. After all, he is not only Linguist and
Historian, he is also 'cross polination' and genetic mutation expert.

I humbly request President Pandurang to honour 'shri doctor' with the
Order of Chimbel award.

jc

[Goanet] Never look down on anybody........

[Gina Fernandes]

Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them up. 

Read quietly then send it back on its journey

To realize
The value of a sister/brother
Ask someone
Who doesn't have one.

To realize
The value of ten years:
Ask a newly
porced couple.

To realize
The value of four years:
Ask a graduate.

To realize
The value of one year:
Ask a student who
Has failed a final exam.

To realize
The value of nine months:
Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.

To realize
The value of one month:
Ask a mother
Who has given birth to a premature baby..

To realize
The value of one week:
Ask an editor of a weekly newspaper.

To realize
The value of one minute:
Ask a person
Who has missed the train, bus or plane.

To realize
The value of one-second:
Ask a person
Who has survived an accident.

Time waits for no one.
Treasure every moment you have.

You will treasure it even more when
You can share it with someone special.

To realize the value of a friend or family member:
LOSE ONE.

The origin of this letter is unknown,
But it brings good luck to everyone who passes it on.

Remember

Hold on tight to the ones you love!

Do not keep this letter.

Send it to friends & family to whom you wish good fortune 
And don't forget the one who sent it to you!

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Gabe Menezes]

On 23 November 2010 17:37, Frederick Noronha wrote:

> Please, could someone tell me about wine? I'm dying with all the suspense.
>
> Meat, motives, halal, urine theraphy, 100% veg... last year...
> everything but wine!
>
> How many Goenkars does it take to get some info about wine? I'm headed
> here (as JC would suspect, to further malign the fair name of the
> Goanese)
> http://www.winemakingtalk.com/
>
> FN
>
> f&fbe
>
> Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
>


RESPONSE: I have never used wheat in wine making. I suspect it is to add
body and a wheat flavour to the wine. It gives the wine a characteristic
flavour, it is used perhaps because the grapes or other ingredients are not
up to scratch in Goa.

Early this year I visited the wine festival in Panjim - all the wines I
tasted were pretty awful!




-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Needlework Nuns by Marshall Mendonza

[Bernice Pereira]

I am sure a lot of people I know would like to own these wonderful pieces of 
embroidery.  Is there any way of obtaining them besides going to the convent 
at Chicalim?  Please inform.
 
Bernice Pereira  

[Goanet] India looted

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

To Goanet -

"Funds are being siphoned off from India to tax havens by political leaders in 
cahoots with bureaucrats and business barons. A recent report by Global 
Financial Integrity, a think-tank based in Washington, suggests that nearly 
US$460 billion is held illegally by Indians in tax havens. This can only be an 
underestimate."


http://www.dnaindia.com/opinion/main-article_scam-tainted-money-may-be-moving-the-markets_1470560



My comments: $460 billion!  I wonder how many in India really appreciate
what that number means relative to the Indian economy.  In Goa, the people
I would investigate (for a start - we can move on to the rest later) are: Digu, 
the Ranes, Churchill Alemao, Monserrate.


r

[Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

On Tue Nov 23 06:39:03 PST 2010 Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at
yahoo.com wrote :<<< Those
who believe that foreign occupation and dictatorship are better than democratic
self-rule have the freedom to express themselves today. Those who believe
otherwise can do so as well, a freedom that was denied to them under foreign
occupation.  Cheers,  Santosh 

 

COMMENT : May I ask Santosh what denied
freedom is he talking about?  Only freedom of speech? Or Freedom to spit all 
over the walls of the city?
Freedom to defecate by the roadside? Freedom to loot, rob, extort, kill, bribe,
cheat, etc. the the Goans?

Please be specific if you have any backlog of ideas. 
There is no need for one to talk when one is content, unless one has ulterior 
motives.





Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.


  

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[J. Colaco < jc>]

On 23 November 2010 12:37, Frederick Noronha  wrote:

Please, could someone tell me about wine? I'm dying with all the suspense.

Meat, motives, halal, urine theraphy, 100% veg... last
year...everything but wine!

How many Goenkars does it take to get some info about wine? I'm headed
here (as JC would suspect, to further malign the fair name of the
Goanese)

---

Arre FN,

The answer is right in your post.

Add Urine to wine to get Vinho Branco
Add Halal meat to wine to get Muscatel

how about that to the one who wants to say Goanese?

jc

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Frederick Noronha]

Please, could someone tell me about wine? I'm dying with all the suspense.

Meat, motives, halal, urine theraphy, 100% veg... last year...
everything but wine!

How many Goenkars does it take to get some info about wine? I'm headed
here (as JC would suspect, to further malign the fair name of the
Goanese)
http://www.winemakingtalk.com/

FN

f&fbe

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1265 (Expressway Not For Goa)

[floriano]

Yes, a guy with an AK-47
You want to sponsor one??

cheers
f

- Original Message - 
From: "John Gomes" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5,Issue 1265 (Expressway Not For 
Goa)




Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:48:50 +0400
From: "Freddy Fernandes" 
To: 
Subject: [Goanet] Expressways Not For Goa
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Expressways Not For Goa



Is anyone there, who can knock some sense into the PWD Minister's thick 
skull ?

[Goanet] Inventor of digital camera honoured

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

To Goanet -

"[Steve] Sasson, 60, had come to Washington a few days early from his Upstate 
New York home to sightsee. He flew commercial.  The camera he invented, 
the original prototype, flew on a private jet."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/22/AR2010112207556.html




r

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Joe lOBO]

 Hi  Selma,
 Speaking  of  " halal " meat.just as the  jewish people of  yore 
spoke of  " kosher "  products it  was  originally to  do  with   "  healthy 
"  meat.  Note  that  the  jews abhored the use of  swine  flesh as they 
regarded  the pig as a dirty animal that would   consume any  garbage. 
Included in the  " kosher" list it  was  taboo to  eat  any anything  that 
was  a  " bottom -feeder " of the  oceans and lakes ,as they felt  the 
filth accumulated  there.so  there  went  crustaceans  like  lobster and 
and  shrimp  as  they were  suspect of  ingesting  dirt  to  the  taboo 
list.
 When  cows  died in the  field and people passed this  off as   good  meat 
, the  fact  that the  blood  coagulated  and  would not flow  freely when 
the  cow  was  slaughtered by cutting  the  jugular  arteryit  was  a 
sign of  suspect death of the  cow  from  other  causes ( diseases)
 One  of  the factories  we  were  taken  to  in  our  last   year  of 
school  was  a  meat-packing  plant called  Tanganyika  Packers on the 
outskirts. of  Dar-es-Salaam ( Tanzania )..which  produced  the  famous  " 
corned beef "  that  was exported to many  mid  -East countries like   the 
U.A.E. states, Bahrain etc.  When  we  saw  how  the  cattle  coming  down a 
ramp  were  electrically  shocked into a state  of  stupor  before their 
throats  were  cut and  the  blood  allowed to  flow,.we , like  you , 
questioned  the apparent  cruelty  of  allowing  the  blood  to  flowit 
was  explained  to  us  that  muslim practice  of  slaughter  required  this 
to  verify that the  cow  was  healthyto  declare the  meat  thereof  as 
" halal" or  " kosher " to be  acceptable  in the  muslim  states to  where 
it  waw  exported.
  Of  course  now  in  western  countries  we  have  vet.  officers  who 
check the  healthy state of  the  animal  prior  to  slaughter


- Original Message - 
From: "Carvalho" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?


JC wrote:
I do not support FN's sudden interest in producing alcohol in Goa -
unless, like with the Irish Poteen or Potcheen, he intends to use all
the Goa newspapers to aid in the fermentation process. I'd
specifically recommend the use of the rag also known as the Heraldo

-
Response: Incase you didn't notice, mine was just a humourous response.

But for the record, I think drinking urine, be it cow's or your own (a la
Moraji) is injurious to health. There is a reason why it is released by the
body. It's because the body deems it unnecessary. And I am seriously opposed 
to

"halal" meat. And yes, I will never buy it. I wouldn't take it even if it is
given away free. It is one thing to kill an animal for consumption, it is 
quite
another thing to let it suffer while it dies. There is a difference. If I 
could

control my urges, I would have become a vegetarian a lot time ago. I tried
several times but failed. That doesn't mean, I should continue supporting a
practice that is clearly inhumane. We are not living in the 14th century, we
are living in the 21st century. This concept that something associated with
religion has to be condoned, is facile at best.

Lastly, what I do support is FN's or anyone else's interest in wine making. 
Why
not? We don't live in a nanny state or police state or even a state that 
needs
to be morally policed. We are all capable of making up our own minds whether 
we

want a drink or not. A drink that doesn't have urine in it (hopefully).

By the way FN's interest in wine-making is not sudden. Last year he did a 
whole
video on it. Maybe my memory is just better. I remember everything that 
happened

- not just last year.

Best,
selma

Re: [Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa

[floriano]

What do I have to do?
I have, through the HC taken out 37 truckloads of garbage which was dumped 
on the HN17 By-pass at Mapusa by the Mapusa Municipal Council.
I have given the Moira Panchayat 300 m2 of comunidade place (next to my 
house) thro convincing the comunidade that if I can tolerate garbage 
treatment  next door to me, why should people far away complain? But the 
plan is still salting,  mired in red tape. Mind you, when the HC has passed 
a verdict that garbage at Panchayat level must be treated.
If I clean the Bambolim site, it will become worse. Because they will think 
that there is some one who is going to clear what I drop.


The only way for me to kick the right but ( which is dicey) is to go to the 
HC again with this video and take the government to task.


That means I will have to stick myself to the HC case posting board weeks 
in - weeks out and if I miss one posting, the case gets dismissed.
I am not a HC lawyer who is day in and day out in the HC and therefore 
chances are that I might mis a date when the hearing is posted.


Tell me what I must do apart from giving Goa a system of governance where 
the day to day garbage will be taken care of on day to day basis.


Cheers
floriano
goasuraj

PS: At my age, I am entitle to some sarcasm. Aren't I??


- Original Message - 
From: "Gabe Menezes" 

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa



RESPONSE: The saying goes: that a picture is worth a thousand words - I am 
a
firm believer of this - the stink that will have been created by the pic 
is
sure to have some fast action taken. Now is not the time for 
facetiousness -
some, if not many, might misconstrue what you have written. Now is the 
time

to kick butt - as they say in American parlance.

Here is a song for your sentimentality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiDsvvs_6I&feature=fvst
--
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes. 

Re: [Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[soter]

Thats a good one Dr. Falcao. Strict discipline. Break the law and you are in 
jail. That is how some criminals got recognition as freedom fighters today. 
Probably if the law was lax we would have had less Desh Premis to spoil the 
peace.

-Soter

Re: [Goanet] Opting for Foreign Citizenship

[Frederick Noronha]

On 23 November 2010 19:55, J. Colaco  < jc>  wrote:

> Hear me, Tommyboy ..IF the Gulf-Goans had not SACRIFICED and
> STRUGGLED in the harsh climes and conditions of the Gulf, Goans from
> the villages would have been scrapping for basics like food.while
> politicians continue to swipe the poixe, And if you have the time,
> please have a chat with the local business folk and ascertain how
> their economy would have fared but for these valiant Gulf Goans.

JC, Firstly, I don't believe you need to abuse people you disagree
with. Or even call them "Tommyboy".

Secondly, this "sacrificed and struggled in harsh climes and
conditions" argument you're making sounds like a modern-day mythmaking
exercise you are indulging in.

Without saying so in as many words, you're suggesting that the
decision to migrate was an option in sacrifice and struggle.

While migration (and many other things -- marriage, motherhood,
fatherhood, being a doctor, working in shifts, being a part of
Goanet...) does undeniably involve "sacrifice and struggle", anyone
would agree that people migrate for a complex set of reasons.

Primary among these is sensing opportunity.

We do not migrate for the sake of Goa,  or the Goan economy. We do so
because we need to earn a living, seek greener pastures, or find ways
of better fulfilling our potential. There's the lure of the
greenbacks. Maybe because we have to support a family -- but so do
people who don't migrate. We do so because we (rightly or otherwise)
believe we don't have scope back home.

This is parallel to a decision to stay back in Goa. I would hardly
claim staying back in Goa is a matter of sacrifice and struggle,
though there can be some rough edges at times. There are many complex
reasons and calculations which make us take the decisions we take.

Yes indeed, money remittances back to Goa have played an increasingly
important role in the local economy. More so as the rupee got
devalued. (At the same time, it has led to inflationary pressures
within Goa, created a magnet promoting in-migration, and fuelled
consumeristic lifestyles.) But to suggest that those who migrate are
taking on some additional cross, or indulging in philanthropic or
social work is just far from the reality.

Thus, I disagree. FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

Re: [Goanet] Opting for Foreign Citizenship

[J. Colaco < jc>]

On 22 November 2010 22:55, Goanet News Service  wrote:

Opting for Foreign Citizenship Published on: November 20, 2010 - 23:54
By Tomazinho Cardozo

[1]  besides migrating, there are other ways of achieving financial
satisfaction. Post liberation, successive government introduced
various self-employment schemes and small scale industries to
encourage Goan youth to seek their fortune in Goa itself.
[2] If one analyses the type of Goans working in the Gulf States one
finds that most of them are from the middle class. Very few are from
the higher strata of society.
[3] being Goans it becomes very easy to for them to get a Portuguese passport.
[4] It is only because of our selfishness that we opt for citizenship
of another country. How unfortunate indeed!
[5] I have come across many Non Resident Goans (NRGs) who have become
foreign citizens. They do not speak Konkani nor do they make any
attempt to teach their children Konkani or the Goan culture.


COMMENT:

I hitherto believed that Tomazinho was not a nutcase + politician
(i.e. corrupt) from Goa. He will have to tell us that he has never
engaged in corrupt practices but I will now believe that I was wrong
in believing that he ain't a nutcase.

I am shocked (though I should not be) that he has stratified the
Gulf-Goans into the "middle class" (It's like the other euphemism used
by Indian Railways i.e. Second Class which actually means Third
Class).

Hear me, Tommyboy ..IF the Gulf-Goans had not SACRIFICED and
STRUGGLED in the harsh climes and conditions of the Gulf, Goans from
the villages would have been scrapping for basics like food.while
politicians continue to swipe the poixe, And if you have the time,
please have a chat with the local business folk and ascertain how
their economy would have fared but for these valiant Gulf Goans.

But, Tommyboy is a man of humour. In this crap article (reminiscent of
the other one written by Chandrakant Keni some years ago), our pompous
and ungrateful boy cracks two jokes (one by express
implication)So, please do not forget to laugh:

joke 1: It is very EASY for young Goans to seek fortune in Goa by
taking advantage (without bribing any politician, of course) of the
Govt sponsored schemes. Please clap for this tiatrist. I thought the
Jacinto Vaz and Anthony Fernandes were the best comedians of the Goan
tiatr. But, I take that back. Tommyboy is the bestest.

joke 2: It is VERY EASY for Goans to obtain Portuguese passport (I am
sure he meant to write 'Portuguese nationality). Joke Joke - unless
Tommyboy is in the printing business.

REMINDER to all those who complain about NRGoans not speaking Konkani:
Take a look at GRGoans and why they are opting for English. i.e.
because if Goans like me want to speak Marathi (and I do so fluently),
I will speak Marathi - NOT this horrible, nasal version of a contrived
dialect of Marathi being passed off and imposed as Konkani.

Further reading:

a: Chandrakant Keni says Expel Goans who have applied for Portuguese nationality

http://www.colaco.net/1/KeniBunkPort.htm

b: Devika Sequeira rushes to print with spurious "facts" and insists
that she will not 'correct' the errors. (Kind of makes one wonder
...when one reads about the alleged Goa journos: Were these bundalbaj
journos all trained at the IIT of Goa journalism i.e. The Goa
Heraldo.)

http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFresponds2DevikaIdentityCrisis.htm



jc

Re: [Goanet] GOAN TALENT: William D\'Souza

[Frederick Noronha]

Uve, you could find William and other musicians via
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goamusician

FN

PS: I'll send you his personanl address offlist.

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490




On 23 November 2010 16:03, Uve Müllrich  wrote:
> Hi there, I'm Uve of the German Bands Embryo and Dissidenten. I would like
> to get in touch with my old friend William D'Souza. Could you forward my
> mail?
>
> Uve Müllrich - DISSIDENTEN & EXIL Musik
> http://www.dissidenten.com
> http://www.myspace.com/dissidenten
> http://www.youtube.com/user/Dissidentenworld
> http://www.facebook.com/Dissidentenworld
>
>
>

[Goanet] Goans celebrate Goa Day in Qatar

[Doha Goans Sports Club]

Goans celebrate Goa Day

Doha:
Doha Goans Sports Club (DGSC) organized “Goa Day” on Friday November
19 by presenting a number of cultural programmes at Doha Municipality
Bldg conference hall near Museum Roundabout in Doha Qatar.
The entire four and half hour programme was full of entertainment,
with artists whipping up emotions using different tools like Goan
festivals, customs, language, short skits and comedy shows.
The audience witnessed a large dose of traditional Goan songs and
dances from Goa, besides artist’s depicted different festivals and
culture of Goa which form an integral part of Goan way of life back
home in Goa. Comedy skits were also staged on the occasion.

Walter Dias Executive Director of Unique Choice was the chief guest
for the Goa Day.   Vice President, Lubino Soares, welcomed the Guest
of honor Rev. Father Anand Castelino, and Arthur Mendonca and Patron
of the Club Basil Coutinho. Mathew Estrocio emceed the show and gave
the welcome address.

Some individuals were also honored on the occasion for their
contribution to the Goan community and outstanding talents awards were
presented to some budding artists.
 The Goan Community Welfare Award was presented to Basil Coutinho for
services rendered towards the club and the community.
The Young Talent Award (below 16) was presented to Belina D’Souza for
her expertise in music and playing the saxophone at various functions
at school and other programmes and shows.
Outstanding Award (16 and above)was presented to Emelina Soares
towards her performance in Arts, Sports and Drama. She recently
performed in the Konkani Tiatr (Soglank Nomoskar) as a bride. She also
performed in a theatre production of 'Wizard of OZ' in three roles.
She also participated in three dance and play programs at  the WORLD
GOA Day celebrations in Doha, Qatar and will be performing in
Bugsymalone (play) in December 2010.

The advisor of DGSC, Mathew Estrocio, conveyed a message to the
audience on the concept of World Goa Day and said that Goa Day is in
preparation to unite all Goans to focus on their culture, tradition
and Konkani language, to promote Sports, and motivate the young
talents among us.
Fr. Anand, said he was very pleased to witness a turn out of more than
500 guests and assured his full support for the cultural activities of
the club.

Mauricio Pereira gave a vote of thanks to all the sponsors and to all
the Participants who put up the programme.
The vice president Lubino concluded the show by thanking all who were
present to witness the Gala event.
World Goa Day is celebrated by designating a day specifically for
Goans to reflect on the Goan identity and to consider what it means to
be a Goan and taking pride in being one and to unite with Goans all
over the world, in solidarity, to celebrate Goa’s history, Konkani
language, music, cultural heritage and traditions.
Goa day celebrations were first kicked off in 2000 by London-based
Rene Baretto who is the brainchild behind the project.
World Goa Day 2010 is being celebrated worldwide on 20th August, 2010,
to mark the historic inclusion of Konkani language in the VIIIth
Schedule of the Indian Constitution, making Konkani the official
language of the State of Goa.
This is the third event to be hosted by the recently revived DGSC, the
first event was the hosting of the Konkani tiatr group from Goa, and
the second was the inter-village football tournament which was by
Calangute village team.
Meanwhile, DGSC informed that they will be celebrating the feast of
Francis Xavier on December 3 and will stage a Dine and Dance show on
December 6, to celebrate the feast.
DGSC also said that they will perform a repeat show of the four events
staged at the Goa Day during the Francis Xavier feast day.


http://bit.ly/GoaDayDoha2010

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1265 (Expressway Not For Goa)

[John Gomes]

You cannot knock some sense into senseless people. with a different agenda than 
yours! The RP 2021 does suggest bypasses and the will of the people who are all 
fools to be made use of and pandered to for keeping them in power and trappings 
of royalty! It is idiotic to have more traffic roaring through densely 
populated areas. In another 4 to 5 years further widenning will be required? 
Then what? It is rainning scams and crore is too small a measure these 
days.Maybe Maoism and naxalism are the only way open to the janta.

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Expressways Not For Goa



As usual, while browsing through the news papers of today, I came across a
numbers of headlines pertaining to the same subject, namely the National
Highway. One was, "Highway meet at Margao today, Churchill cries foul", another,
"Mapusa MLA slams government over highway widening" further "NGO's back demand
for realignment of highways" yet another "NH expansion rocks Corlim meet". 



Isn't it funny and ironic that Ali Baba and his forty thieves still claim that
they are doing the will of the people and Ali Baba himself claims, his is the
Aam Aadmi government ? Who are these people who are objecting ? How on earth
does the Aam Aadmi government fail to recognize the factual Aam Aadmi, crying at
the top of his voice asking for retribution? The politicians themselves suffer
from blinding disorders, and they inflict breathing problems on us Goans. We
have failed to immune ourselves against these distorted infections by our
willful acceptance of the charades for a long time and our enthusiasm to bring
about a change in governance is like the enthusiasm of a cadaver.



There is no doubt that the improvement in the road network is a necessity
especially the main arteries but do  we Goans really need a 6-lane expressway ?
Why not expand the existing roads where ever possible and build a one way bypass
where there is a congestion of dwellings, widening of the present roads and the
one way bypasses would more than handle the increasing Goan traffic but for this
to work we need governance that is committed to work for the betterment of the
people without destroying them, their dwellings and their livelihood. We should
all work together to improve infrastructure facilities with as little
destruction as possible where it's unavoidable, of land, houses and environment.



A 6-lane or a 8-lane expressway is not feasible for Goa, being a small state
land availability is sparse and all the land scams like SEZ, CRZ, Industrial
Zones, sale of communidade land, squatting migrants and mega projects have put
additional pressure on this valuable and most sought  comodity. We Goans do not
need to use the expressway to shuttle up and down at breakneck speed, it will be
mainly used by the money bags from Maharashtra and Karnataka to zoom through
Goa, so why should we sacrifice our land and our homes for their joyrides ?
Just expand the present highways to 4 lanes with a divider in between where ever
possible and a one way bypasses where required and it should suffice the needs
of Goans.  



Most of the present roads are in dilapidated conditions, if our PWD cannot
maintain our present roads, how will it be able to take care of expressways ? I
had the misfortune of driving to the Margao railway station on more than one
occasion while in Goa and the state of the roads was appalling, potholes like
craters along with back and neck breakers, no, I am not talking about the speed
breakers. Even the road leading to the station is in atrocious condition. This
route is used by thousands of people including tourists in a day and does not
look good for Goa, it only reflects the apathy of the PWD towards maintenance of
roads, if roads leading to our main landmarks are in such extremely decrepit
condition what about the interior roads ?  



The road from the railway bridge to Navelim Church is another backbone rattler.
The underpass at Comba is another classic example, slight rain and it's becomes
a pool and when there is no water one has to drive over a pile of rubble that
looks like the remains of a demolished structure in a war zone, we have already
lost one valuable young life in that area not too long ago and are waiting for
more to happen. People traveling on Betul Agonda road could get their jaws
dislocated with the constant rattling. We cannot maintain what little we have,
aur hum log chele expressway banane !



Is anyone there, who can knock some sense into the PWD Minister's thick skull ?




Freddy Agnelo Fernandes
 Fernandes
Comments :  Camilo Fernandes
Freddy's above hard hitting post is excellent, to the point and exposes 
Churchill in what he really is though he may claim otherwise.   It is a shame 
that Goamag instead of exposin

[Goanet] Telecom scams

[Marshall Mendonza]

  Telecom scams in India are old hat. It has been happening ever since the
telecom sector was opened to private participation over 10 years ago. The
scams have taken place both during Congress as well as BJP rule. More
importantly, the BJP who is now crying hoarse, did not allow Parliament to
function for a considerable period of time during the Sukh Ram scam, However
it had no compunctions when it embraced the scamster (Sukh Ram) when it
suited its interest. So much for standing for probity in public life!!!



Scams will come to an end only when the guilty are prosecuted and punished
and their ill-gotten gains are confiscated. Till then it will only make
media headlines and increase TRP ratings of TV channels.



Here are some excerpts of past telecom scams:



‘Former communications minister Sukh Ram has been sentenced to three years
of rigorous imprisonment (RI) and fined Rs 1 lakh by a CBI special court
here for indulging in corruption by favouring a private party at the cost of
Rs 1.68 crore to the public exchequer. ‘
Read more: Sukhram convicted in telecom scam - The Times of
India
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sukhram-convicted-in-telecom-scam/articleshow/15046155.cms#ixzz164wmKhZU

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sukhram-convicted-in-telecom-scam/articleshow/15046155.cms



Excerpts:



‘Sukh Ram was thrown out of both the Congress government and party but he
quickly picked up the threads again. He floated the Himachal Vikas Congress
and won the February 1998 assembly elections from Mandi with a thumping
margin, bagging 64.63 per cent of the vote against 16.79 per cent secured by
his nearest rival. With the Congress and BJP evenly poised, the HVC became
Kingmaker. Sukh Ram joined hands with the BJP, the party that had stalled
Parliament over his role in the telecom scam about two years earlier. He was
de facto deputy chief minister in the BJP-HVC government.’

http://www.indianexpress.com/oldStory/6118/



Excerpts:

‘The petition alleged that RIC advertised the service as a full mobility
service, and could give a plethora of incentives to the subscribers because
it did not pay the licence fees chargeable from a fully mobile service
provider. The petition further alleged that it was only because of this that
RIC could get five million subscribers, which was hundreds of times more
than it could have got as limited mobile operators. "Reliance valuations
thus shot up to thousands of crores, something its competitors could not
dream of while offering limited mobility in the same circles," it said. *The
petition estimated that this caused a loss of Rs.1,100 crores to the
exchequer**,* on the basis of the difference in the licence fee payable to
the government by a fully mobile service provider and a WLL service
provider. RIC became the fifth fully mobile service provider, having entered
the scene through the WLL route, whereas the earlier four players had paid
the licence fee applicable to a fully mobile service provider.

RIC merger of the WLL licence and full mobility was done during the tenure
of Mahajan's successor in the Communications Ministry, Arun Shourie. The
justification given for this before the Supreme Court was that lakhs of
subscribers had already been enrolled by RIC on the promise of full
mobility. Thus the illegality allowed during Mahajan's tenure was itself
subsequently used as a justification for legalising it. This benefited RIC
to the tune of hundreds of crores of rupees, the petition said.

In its press release dated February 15, 2005, RIC admitted that it had
allotted one crore shares to Ashish Deora, through three front companies, at
Re.1 each on September 16, 2002. It stated that the shares given to Deora
were from "shares that were transferred to a trust, intended for the benefit
of Reliance employees and business associates". Since the trust was
authorised to sell their shares to business associates, RIC paid him
remuneration for services rendered to the company through such a transfer.
RIC claimed that the trust had retained the option to buy back the shares at
par, and barred Deora to sell/pledge/deal with the shares. Since Deora was
not able to fulfil his commitments, the shares were returned to the trust,
RIC added.

The petition raises a number of doubts about this transaction. It points out
that Reliance Industries paid Rs.55 a share to buy 32 crore shares in RIC
for Rs.1,752 crores within six weeks of the transfer at Re.1 a share.

The allotment of cheap shares to private companies at Re.1 in contrast to
the amount paid by the public listed company Reliance Industries was a
matter of public concern, the petition said.

The petition cites a series of stories carried in *Asian Age*, exposing the
transfer of one crore shares to three front companies at Re.1 each by RIC on
September 16, 2002. It was subsequently reported in the newspaper,

Re: [Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa

[Gabe Menezes]

On 23 November 2010 11:17, floriano  wrote:

> Dear Camillo,
>
> I love Goa like any other good and loving son of Goa.
> But JoeGoaUK is no son of Goa.
>
> I am deeply hurt and I shall, in my capacity as the General Secretary of
> the Goa Su-Raj Party of Goa, write to National Geographic to black list
> JoeGoaUK for everver.
>
> Sentimentally,
> floriano
> goasuraj
> 9890470896
> www.goasu-raj.org
>

RESPONSE: The saying goes: that a picture is worth a thousand words - I am a
firm believer of this - the stink that will have been created by the pic is
sure to have some fast action taken. Now is not the time for facetiousness -
some, if not many, might misconstrue what you have written. Now is the time
to kick butt - as they say in American parlance.

Here is a song for your sentimentality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiDsvvs_6I&feature=fvst
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[Santosh Helekar]

This sounds like the classic Stockholm syndrome, as referred to in the 
following article:

Please see - http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268052

Here is the quote:

QUOTE
“I used to think that the Goan aristocrats, with their adoration of and 
nostalgia for Portuguese rule, suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome,” said a 
European woman, martini in hand, as she practically swooned over a passing 
officer. “Now I understand”.
UNQUOTE

This is how this debate shapes up:

QUOTE
There are those here who see the Portuguese as benevolent fairy god-uncles who 
infinitely enriched and transformed Goa; who will always be joined with them in 
the deep longing for a shared, poignant past. There are as many, perhaps more, 
who see the Portuguese simply and starkly as imperial conquerors—divisive, 
coercive, plundering and cruel.
UNQUOTE

Those who believe that foreign occupation and dictatorship are better than 
democratic self-rule have the freedom to express themselves today. Those who 
believe otherwise can do so as well, a freedom that was denied to them under 
foreign occupation.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:
> 
> I am putting forth here many of the
> benefits Goa and Goans have had prior to the year 1961 and
> the contrast that
> Goa and Goans are facing post 1961. It is for the knowledge
> of those Goans who
> were either born post 1961 or were too small to comprehend
> things. 
> 
>     There was no Income taxed in Goa, so your
> earnings were all for
> yourself.
> 
>    There was no Land acquisition and if
> Government needed, it was
> bought at market rate. 
> 
>     Goans were employed in all government
> departments, barring a handful
> of top posts which were manned by the Portuguese.
> 
>     There were parochial schools free of charge
> in many villages, there
> were English schools run by priests and nuns, most of which
> still stand today.
> There were facilities for further studies in Lisbon. The
> Medical College at
> Panjim was the first one in Asia.
> 
>     There was strict discipline, and any
> infringement of the law you
> were in prison (mind you the police personnel were Goans.);
> you could sleep at
> nights with windows open, you could leave your house open
> and go out for some
> time, your garden fruits or plantation would not be robbed;
> Goa was secure.
> There were rare cases of robberies and murders. I recollect
> a Goan surgeon’s
> license was cancelled for life for operating under
> influence of alcohol and
> resulting in removal of kidney instead of appendicectomy. 
> 
>     There was a dress code when entering cities,
> one had to wear a
> shirt, (no roaming bare chest like the foreign tourists or
> ghantis of today);
> no spitting, no pan, no blowing your orifices in public.
> The cities were
> therefore clean.
> 
>     There was no slavery except for the few negro
> slaves that were
> always with the colonial rulers/explorers like the British,
> Spanish,
> Portuguese, etc., who were workers on the ships, and some
> of whom were kept
> employed in Goa on land. A majority of these slaves are in
> the US. That is how
> negroes landed in the US. And here in Goa too a few who in
> later years became
> the butt of jokes named “Humpree Agustin”.
> 
>    There were no deaths in police custody.
> 
>    There was sufficient food for all as
> agricultural land was fully
> utilised. Farming too was economical as there was no theft
> of farm animals and
> birds.
> 
>    The Portuguese did not loot Goa and
> siphon the riches to Portugal.
> Even the mortgaged gold and money from ‘Banco National
> Ultramarino’ were
> returned to Goa. I wonder what happened to the unclaimed
> gold? And I remember
> that on 18th December 1961, the Portuguese military told
> the
> neighbouring Goans to take away whatever they wanted from
> their barracks so
> that it does not fall into the hands of the Indians. Such
> was their affection
> towards Goans. And when Indian Military entered Goa on the
> 19th
> December, they found the barracks ransacked & empty,
> which infuriated them;
> and a military Order was passed that houses would be
> searched and people would
> be jailed. There were also rumours that the Indian military
> officers served
> food in “bispotes” which people hadn’t taken.
> 
>  
> 
> With all this,
> was there any reason for anyone to be discontent? Or was it
> just ideology, that
> this land is mine and who are these outsiders to govern? 
> 
> What is
> happening today is exactly the opposite of the above.
> People should realise
> that they are being openly looted from every side. Human
> rights violation in
> all forms is prevailing. Many people are jailed on false
> complaints, a threat
> police themselves give. People are deprived of fresh air to
> breath in mining
> areas; citizens are killed almost every day on the roads
> and by reckless mining
> trucks. People are deprived of fresh and clean drinking
> water and unadulterated
> foo

Re: [Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[floriano]

The first thing that Goa Su-Raj Party will do when it comes to power is to 
de-recognize the so called 'freedom fighter's movement', thereby all 
pensions to the so called freedom fighters shall be stopped along with all 
privileges and grants.


The next thing to follow  will be  'all' illegal religious places  of 
worship or otherwise built/occupying public places will 'GO' in keeping with 
the Supreme Court ruling, if necessary thro' an Ordinance. Just 15 day shall 
be given to remove any item/s from the sites before the bull-dozers move in.


Simultaneously, all religious portraits and places of worship in Government 
offices will be cleared. No portraits of any political leaders shall be 
allowed to be displayed in government offices/buildings except for the 
portrait of Mahatma Gandhi, if at all.


-All government departments including the Police department shall get a 15 
day breathing space to put the house/s in order. The sixteenth day will see 
some important, highly placed necks rolling.


-For the following 5 years, the government will not plan for ANY 
DEVELOPMENT. All efforts and money shall be utilized to develop the 
infrastructure left right and center, like roads, bridges, ferries, river 
transport, power, water supply, public health, agriculture, sanitation & 
hygiene, public transport, sports & culture, airports, ports, etc.


-Pollution control board will be empowered to book any case of violation. 
The police department shall enjoy sufficient autonomy where it will be freed 
from political interference.


-Courts shall be empowered to finish the back-log of cases within a set 
time-frame.


-The guilty will be identified soonest and definitely but surely punished, 
if necessary with a jail term, including POLITICIANS.


-Enforcement directorate and CBI will be given free hand to investigate and 
book the guilty. If necessary all the Alibaba's wealth shall be lined up 
along  the roadsides and the public shall be given a free hand to pocket the 
same (for a limited time on first come first served basis)


-Special Preference shall be given to double-crossing/crooked 
journalists  The  AGUADA JAIL.


-Best grain and items from the PDS shall be made available  at fair price 
shops and hoaders and black-marketers shall join the crook journalist in 
Aguada Jail


-Not a single pie from the tax payer's money will go to refurbish religions. 
All government sponsored pilgrimages shall be stopped outright, may it be 
Hajj etc.


If at all anything item is left out , please feel free to list the same and 
we shall put it in the golden book of future GOA.





Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

PS: With this list of things to be done, I don't think our candidates will 
ever salvage their deposits :-))
  But then this will be the route that goasuraj will take, nothing 
else.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão" 

To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:13 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.


I am putting forth here many of the
benefits Goa and Goans have had prior to the year 1961 and the contrast that
Goa and Goans are facing post 1961. It is for the knowledge of those Goans 
who

were either born post 1961 or were too small to comprehend things.

Goa government
is now preparing to celebrate 50 years of “Liberation”. We right minded 
people
of Goa demand first to scrap the pension and other facilities like 
reservations
in professional colleges, jobs, etc. given to the so called freedom fighters 
at
the taxpayer’s expense. They are no longer underprivileged, 50 years of dole 
is

more than sufficient.





Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  = 

Re: [Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[Gabe Menezes]

2010/11/23 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão 

> I am putting forth here many of the
> benefits Goa and Goans have had prior to the year 1961 and the contrast
> that
> Goa and Goans are facing post 1961. It is for the knowledge of those Goans
> who
> were either born post 1961 or were too small to comprehend things.
>
>There was no Income taxed in Goa, so your earnings were all for
> yourself.
>
>   There was no Land acquisition and if Government needed, it was
> bought at market rate.
>
>Goans were employed in all government departments, barring a handful
> of top posts which were manned by the Portuguese.
>
>
>
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
>

RESPONSE: As I have written before; Portuguese please come back all is
forgiven. Although, I shall never forgive them for not having given Goa
independence - their failure to do so, allowed India to subjugate us and
bring us down to the lowest common denominator;  which also taught our
Christao MLA's how to screw Goa and Goans!


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] The Fourth Estate in India closes ranks

[Vasant Baliga]

Oh what a lovely blackout 
The great media blackout on the Radia tapes is finally ending. Maybe editors 
and 
others who said that they could not use the tapes or transcripts for lack of 
authentication are waking up to the the fact that there have been no statements 
of denial from the principals.  The list of those who took no note is long and 
illustrious, says SEVANTI NINAN. 

 Tuesday, Nov 23 01:25:42, 2010 
  

The great media blackout on the Radia tapes is   finally ending. Maybe editors 
and others who said that they could not use the tapes or transcripts for lack 
of 
authentication are waking up to the the fact that there have been no statements 
of denial from the principals, except for Barkha Dutt saying the conversation 
was misrepresented. She does not say it did not take place. Neera Radia has now 
issued a belligerent statement, but she is not denying the conversations 
either.CNN IBN had a rather self-conscious edition of Face the Nation by 
Sagarika Ghose on November 22, designed to rebut the charge that TV channels 
have ignored a development which involves the operational head of a rival 
channel. And indeed several other leading media figures. It raised the issue, 
discussed corporates and lobbyists for much of the airtime it had, and named no 
names while flashing the Outlook cover with photographs of some of those 
involved.  It talked about proximity to those in power, delusions of grandeur 
that journalists have, points were made about the legitimacy of the  
information 
exchange between lobbyists and politicians, but they  but did not actually 
pinpoint the crux of the issue: Should journalists let lobbyists use them to 
extract information from politicians, or pass on messages to them? Should they 
let themselves be conduits for lobbyists, or corporates, or for that matter 
politicians? One of the few sharp points made on the show was that the 
journalists being asked to help Kanimozhi get a portfolio for Raja  should 
instead have been filing stories on the lobbying going on.
But lets look at how a story involving editors, anchors, and editorial advisors 
becomes a rather big story for a few, and a non story for the many. The tapes 
surfaced on the  Open and  Outlook websites  on Thursday-Friday, the Hoot was 
able to begin using the material the first day, but no news agency put it out. 
No newspaper had it Friday morning, though both Open and Outlook magazines came 
out with cover stories on the media angle to the Radia Tapes. The only 
exception 
over the weekend was Mail Today which ran the story on three consecutive days, 
interviewing people for their reactions to the conversations the journalist had 
with Ms Radia. It was careful about who it named, stepping around the fact that 
a current and a former editor from the India Today stable which publishes Mail 
Today featured in the tapes. Sunday came and went, with fat weekend editions, 
special weekend shows, and guess what, nobody thought this was a story.
Not a story that three prominent journalists were trying to help a lobbyist   
get A Raja a ministerial berth in the second UPA government? The same A Raja 
currently at the centre of the 2G scam that all these papers have been covering 
every day? Not even news by association with the most newsworthy person of the 
week?
The list of those who took no note is long and illustrious: The Indian Express, 
always quick off the mark on sensational disclosures. The Hindu, till Monday, 
though some heard that the paper was working on a story. The Times of India and 
theHindustan Times. India Today magazine, which had a cover story on the 2G 
scam. All those Hindi news channels forever reconstructing sensational events. 
Times Now! No pained sermons on the subject from dear Arnab!
The Hindustan Times had a clarification on its website which pointed readers to 
Vir Sanghvi's blog. “Transcripts have been carried in some Indian publications 
of what are purportedly telephone conversations between, among others, 
Hindustan 
Times Advisory Editorial Director Vir Sanghvi, and a lobbyist, Niira 
Radia. While the authenticity of these transcripts cannot be 
ascertained, Hindustan Timeswould like to reiterate its steadfast adherence to 
a 
code of ethics of the highest levels and values that involve integrity, 
credibility and transparency in our constant endeavour to bring news and 
analysis that is unbiased, balanced and authentic to its readers.
As for the alleged involvement of Mr Sanghvi with matters concerning Ms Radia, 
as the transcripts may imply, we would like to cite Mr Sanghvi's own 
clarifications on this as posted by him on his personal website, 
www.virsanghvi.com. Mr Sanghvi writes a weekly column, titled Counterpoint, in 
which the views.”
The Hindustan Times would like to reiterate its steadfast adherence to a code 
of 
ethics of the highest levels... Nice touch.
The first day the only news channel to carry something was NDTV, whose group 
editor Barkha Dutt figured pr

[Goanet] Why I am not an atheist

[Bernado Colaco]

The currency we use locally is called the Pataca and is pegged to which was 
once 
a country built on Christian beliefs. Let me endorse the best version of 
Malaika.  I liked the versions by Miriam Makeba and Agelique Kidjjo. Do you 
still stick to the original of F. Williams?

BC


As for foreign exchange rates,?your communist government has done
an exceptionally good?job in?dictating exchange rates of the Chinese
currencies. 

Re: [Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa

[floriano]

Dear Camillo,

I love Goa like any other good and loving son of Goa.
But JoeGoaUK is no son of Goa.
If he was, he wouldn't have defamed Goa in this manner, nationally and 
internationally.
After all, Goa has been named the NO.1 state in the Indian Union on several 
occasions.
Not only the Bollywood is in love with Goa but also the Railways Minister 
Ms. Mamta Benerjee has come to love Goa, of late (maybe perhaps because she 
knows that the Naxalites have made Goa their home as it is peaceful, indeed 
so peaceful that anyone can throw their domestic garbage on the roads)


I say that JoeGoaUk should be stripped of his cameras, arrested and jailed 
for life.
He is trying to upset the apple carts of our Goan patriots, the Freedom 
Fighters, the Ministers and MLAs all together.


This is not fair unto Goa.
I am deeply hurt and I shall, in my capacity as the General Secretary of the 
Goa Su-Raj Party of Goa, write to National Geographic to black list JoeGoaUK 
for everver.


Sentimentally,
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

- Original Message - 
From: "Camillo Fernandes" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:57 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa



Comments :   Camilo Fernandes



JoeGoaUk is doing a fantastic service to all Goans highlighting how 
beautiful Goa is deteriorating not slowly and surely but at a very fast 
pace.It is unbelievable how he seems to be keeping pace with what is 
happening anywhere  in Goa and appears to be everywhere at the same time. 
Kudos to JoeGoaUk for the wonderful job he is doing to all Goans  and keep 
up the fabulous work you are doing!!!Dev borem korumCamilo Fernandes
JoeGoaUk wrote : From: JoeGoaUk > Stinking Garbage on 
NH17 near GMC, Bambolim> ?> TMVN> 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfzq2VfbZqc> ?> Chief Minister Digambar 
Kamat, Minister Churchill Alemao, > Minister Jose Philip, Minister Filipe 
Neri, Minister Joaquim Alemao, Minister Aleixo Sequeira etc pass this was > 
everyday but it seems nobody cares  = 

[Goanet] Scrap Freedom fighters pension, 50 years is enough.

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

I am putting forth here many of the
benefits Goa and Goans have had prior to the year 1961 and the contrast that
Goa and Goans are facing post 1961. It is for the knowledge of those Goans who
were either born post 1961 or were too small to comprehend things. 

There was no Income taxed in Goa, so your earnings were all for
yourself.

   There was no Land acquisition and if Government needed, it was
bought at market rate. 

Goans were employed in all government departments, barring a handful
of top posts which were manned by the Portuguese.

There were parochial schools free of charge in many villages, there
were English schools run by priests and nuns, most of which still stand today.
There were facilities for further studies in Lisbon. The Medical College at
Panjim was the first one in Asia.

There was strict discipline, and any infringement of the law you
were in prison (mind you the police personnel were Goans.); you could sleep at
nights with windows open, you could leave your house open and go out for some
time, your garden fruits or plantation would not be robbed; Goa was secure.
There were rare cases of robberies and murders. I recollect a Goan surgeon’s
license was cancelled for life for operating under influence of alcohol and
resulting in removal of kidney instead of appendicectomy. 

There was a dress code when entering cities, one had to wear a
shirt, (no roaming bare chest like the foreign tourists or ghantis of today);
no spitting, no pan, no blowing your orifices in public. The cities were
therefore clean.

There was no slavery except for the few negro slaves that were
always with the colonial rulers/explorers like the British, Spanish,
Portuguese, etc., who were workers on the ships, and some of whom were kept
employed in Goa on land. A majority of these slaves are in the US. That is how
negroes landed in the US. And here in Goa too a few who in later years became
the butt of jokes named “Humpree Agustin”.

   There were no deaths in police custody.

   There was sufficient food for all as agricultural land was fully
utilised. Farming too was economical as there was no theft of farm animals and
birds.

   The Portuguese did not loot Goa and siphon the riches to Portugal.
Even the mortgaged gold and money from ‘Banco National Ultramarino’ were
returned to Goa. I wonder what happened to the unclaimed gold? And I remember
that on 18th December 1961, the Portuguese military told the
neighbouring Goans to take away whatever they wanted from their barracks so
that it does not fall into the hands of the Indians. Such was their affection
towards Goans. And when Indian Military entered Goa on the 19th
December, they found the barracks ransacked & empty, which infuriated them;
and a military Order was passed that houses would be searched and people would
be jailed. There were also rumours that the Indian military officers served
food in “bispotes” which people hadn’t taken.

 

With all this,
was there any reason for anyone to be discontent? Or was it just ideology, that
this land is mine and who are these outsiders to govern? 

What is
happening today is exactly the opposite of the above. People should realise
that they are being openly looted from every side. Human rights violation in
all forms is prevailing. Many people are jailed on false complaints, a threat
police themselves give. People are deprived of fresh air to breath in mining
areas; citizens are killed almost every day on the roads and by reckless mining
trucks. People are deprived of fresh and clean drinking water and unadulterated
food to eat. With commercial hospitals sprouting in Goa another novel human
rights violation is taking place. Patients stepping into them are falsely
diagnosed as very serious and secluded in ICUs, family terrorised and money
extorted, unnecessary angioplasties and coronary by-pass are performed.

Goa government
is now preparing to celebrate 50 years of “Liberation”. We right minded people
of Goa demand first to scrap the pension and other facilities like reservations
in professional colleges, jobs, etc. given to the so called freedom fighters at
the taxpayer’s expense. They are no longer underprivileged, 50 years of dole is
more than sufficient. 





Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  

[Goanet] YouTube - 1930's Dance Band - Roy Fox with Nat Gonella, Al Bowlly

[Con Menezes]

Great Music & Bands 0f YesteryearNat Gonella & His Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf_0KGAfN_Q

[Goanet] UAE Goans & Politicians

[Arwin Mesquita]

To attract Non Resident Goan votes, Senior Politicians/Kin have and will be
visiting UAE soon. Yes, as elected representatives, meetings can be held
with them for issues, opportunities etc but why are some UAE Goans giving
them un-necessary publicity via singing, honoring as chief guests etc. Are
there no social activist, environmentalists that can be honored instead?
These Goans have no time to speak or act to preserve Goa and make excuses
not to act, but have all the time to promote Politicians in the forefront of
destroying our land, environment, demographics & identity.

Today Goa is under attack from Land Sharks, Builders, Uncontrolled
Migration, Mining Lobby, Mafia’s etc all supported for obvious reasons
by  Corrupt
Politicians; particularly those power for many decades now. Now many
Politicians are preparing their next generation into the political arena and
making Politics, a lucrative family business. They manipulated People’s
Emotions, Religion & the Language issue, to get into Politics & consolidated
their positions.  Goans should have judged these politicians performance for
the First term and got rid of them based on their performance.

These Politicians are responsible for the Goa’s failure today; as such so
many Goans have migrated and are continuing to leave Goa. This includes us
UAE Goans, i.e. would many of us be here if it was not for these corrupt
politicians? They developed Goa subject to the illegitimate income they earn
and not for the common man. They then share a small portion of the enormous
loot and buy/entice voters with basic amenities, sponsorships, favors
(including illegal) etc

Can we UAE Goans, set an example for the Non Resident Goan Community, voice
opinions and force Politicians to act for Goa & Goans? After all,
Politicians will ultimately do what we force them to do!!

Arwin Mesquita, UAE

-- 
Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/

[Goanet] GOAN TALENT: William D\'Souza

[Uve Müllrich]

Hi there, I'm Uve of the German Bands Embryo and Dissidenten. I would like
to get in touch with my old friend William D'Souza. Could you forward my
mail?

Uve Müllrich - DISSIDENTEN & EXIL Musik
http://www.dissidenten.com
http://www.myspace.com/dissidenten
http://www.youtube.com/user/Dissidentenworld
http://www.facebook.com/Dissidentenworld

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Frederick Noronha]

Great fun! I'm enjoying all this. As I tune in to what others say I'm
doing, am thinking, or what my motives are, it feels like being an
eavesdropper on my own funeral :-)  And I'm learning something about
myself too.

This is like entertainment without tax!

(Do you recall times in India when entertainment -- including cinemas
-- were heavily taxed? Now we have the plush theatres who place a
heavy tax on the citizen through other means, including crony
capitalism and the controversial manner in which set up.)

Anyway, one of the more entertaining aspects of being online, to me at
least, lies in not responding when someone badly wants you to by
drawing you into a debate, allegation or innuendo!

Btw, I hope this doesn't amount to a response...

FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa

[Camillo Fernandes]

Comments :   Camilo Fernandes
The below video clip by JoeGoauk showing the filth in  Goa is a shame and 
disgrace to all lovers of Goa and it sadly appears that nobody cares in spite 
of it being highlighted and is an eyesore for everyone to see.The inaction 
on the part of the Government  to clear the mess only shows how the Government 
ministers are only interested in amassing wealth for themselves and least 
interested in  saving Goa from ruins.   They just turn a blind eye to this 
serious problem.Goa is now internationally famous as a beautiful tourist 
attraction but if this is the state of Goa and is  getting worse it is no 
wonder that many tourists who had been to Goa now  have second thoughts of 
visiting and pass on the word to others who have not been there. 
Maybe if only this garbage was dumped in front of the Ministers houses, we 
could be sure that instant action would have been action and miraculously the 
problem would have been solved rather than the indifference that is displayed 
by them.   The Government should wake up from its slumber and make  clearing of 
garbage as its top priority and take drastic action including  stringent 
penalties and come out with a solution to this gigantic problem.  They should 
seriously take steps of setting up a modern waste disposal plant no matter how 
high the costs on a top priority basis.   If steps are not taken, then all that 
will remain of beautiful Goa will be a lost, stinking filthy garbage Goa.

JoeGoaUk is doing a fantastic service to all Goans highlighting how beautiful 
Goa is deteriorating not slowly and surely but at a very fast pace.It is 
unbelievable how he seems to be keeping pace with what is happening anywhere  
in Goa and appears to be everywhere at the same time.Kudos to JoeGoaUk for 
the wonderful job he is doing to all Goans  and keep up the fabulous work you 
are doing!!!Dev borem korumCamilo Fernandes
JoeGoaUk wrote : From: JoeGoaUk > Stinking Garbage on 
NH17 near GMC, Bambolim> ?> TMVN> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfzq2VfbZqc> 
?> Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, Minister Churchill Alemao, > Minister Jose 
Philip, Minister Filipe Neri, Minister Joaquim Alemao, Minister Aleixo Sequeira 
etc pass this was > everyday but it seems nobody cares  
   

[Goanet] When Looters become Hooters

[soter]

A case of the the police-politician looting first and taking action after the 
booty has been consumed. This is the story of Serula Communidade.
Read more:

http://soterdeserula.blogspot.com/2010/11/cops-write-to-banks-to-freeze-accounts.html

[Goanet] OF SHAMELESS GOANS THAT SUFFER FROM AMNAESIA

[soter]

TUESDAY TICKLES
by ASHLEY DO ROSARIO [GT - 23/11/10]
NH diversion stir: National, or anti-national?

NGOs, activists, politicians and a section of the aam admi are at it again: 
agitation. The reason: the National Highways cutting through the length, and 
partly breadth, of Goa, are being widened, damaging in the process homes, 
businesses, real estate investments and what not. So, all those affected, 
and even those not affected but who could potentially corner political 
dividends have gone on agitation mode. They are demanding that the alignment 
of the highways be changed to skirt the densely populated regions and thus 
save some of the structures, for which the government will pay no 
compensation if destroyed.
Two decades ago, Goa witnessed a similar agitation, perhaps of a greater 
intensity than the current Highway agitation. I had then just entered the 
journalism profession as a greenhorn reporter. It was also around the same 
time that Opposition Leader Manohar Parrikar was cutting his teeth and 
agitations were his prime political occupation. The reason for that 
agitation was the Konkan Railway Project.
Farmers who were losing their fields, those who were losing their homes and 
businesses and others who feared a demographic deluge because of the KR 
project were at the forefront of that agitation.
Like the agitation against the highway now, then too the demand of the 
agitationists was not to scrap the project, but for the realignment of the 
railway line from the densely populated coastal areas and their khazans, to 
the hinterland.
But unlike the Highways now, the agitation against the KR alignment then, 
did not get the support of politicians like Parrikar. On the contrary, they 
launched a counter-agitation favouring the project and accused those 
agitating for the realignment of a "national" project like the Konkan 
Railway "ANTI-NATIONALS". By the same yardstick, are the National Highway 
diversionists also anti-nationals?
A million dollar question this. 

[Goanet] CM's reputation in respecting local sentiments

[rajendra kakodkar]

Hi Nascy!
 
God (for some: the evolution process) has given us a heart and a brain. 
Sentiments are manifestations of ones heart. True leaders use these sentiments 
to channelize the energies of the masses towards the greater good. 
 
Politicians use these sentiments to contol (and often fool) the gullible 
masses, who out of insecurity, surrender to the politician, only to be 
disillusioned later. But some people understand this game and try to escape 
falling prey to sentiments. 
 
However, despite knowing this game, some fear that if they do not toe in the 
line of a popular sentiment, they may be perceived to be heartless. And in the 
process inadvertently aid the politician to exploit the gullible masses. 
 
Sensitivity is another manifestation of ones heart. Some people consciously 
prefer to be sensitive rather than sentimental. This seems to be a superior 
trait from the simple fact that God (or the evolution process) has created 
mother (the pinnacle leader of everyone’s successful surrender) to be more 
often sensitive than sentimental.
 
But the brain comes in the way. It decides at every juncture how one behaves: a 
true leader, a politician, sentimental ally of politician or a responsible 
sensitive citizen of the universe.
 
Nothing is constant forever. A politician at some stage or on certain occasion 
may behave as a true leader and vice versa. Similarly a sensitive person may 
behave like a sentimental one and vice versa. 
 
Therefore, I do not estimate a person from his particular stance or rather not 
estimate a person at all. I believe in collective wisdom and that the 
collective wisdom of a large population shall (at some stage) emerge as the 
virtue, no matter how much person/s, community/ies, politician/s, media etc may 
try to distort it. Summarilly, I do not have to do anything to address my 
concerns because the collective wisdom is capable of doing the job. 
 
Why then am I posting blah-blahs on Goanet and elsewhere and participating in 
corrective efforts? I do so because my only concern is that all such crises are 
averted only at the tipping point or on the brink of collapse. Therefore all my 
efforts (too small compared to collective wisdom) are aimed only to shave off 
few nanoseconds of the collective decision making process, lest it is too late.
 
Thanks Nascy, for giving me opportunity to express my mind, which in normal 
cases, I would not have posted suo moto.
 
Rajendra

Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?

[Carvalho]

JC wrote:
I do not support FN's sudden interest in producing alcohol in Goa -
unless, like with the Irish Poteen or Potcheen, he intends to use all
the Goa newspapers to aid in the fermentation process. I'd
specifically recommend the use of the rag also known as the Heraldo

-
Response: Incase you didn't notice, mine was just a humourous response. 

But for the record, I think drinking urine, be it cow's or your own (a la 
Moraji) is injurious to health. There is a reason why it is released by the 
body. It's because the body deems it unnecessary. And I am seriously opposed to 
"halal" meat. And yes, I will never buy it. I wouldn't take it even if it is 
given away free. It is one thing to kill an animal for consumption, it is quite 
another thing to let it suffer while it dies. There is a difference. If I could 
control my urges, I would have become a vegetarian a lot time ago. I tried 
several times but failed. That doesn't mean, I should continue supporting a 
practice that is clearly  inhumane. We are not living in the 14th century, we 
are living in the 21st century. This concept that something associated with 
religion has to be condoned, is facile at best.

Lastly, what I do support is FN's or anyone else's interest in wine making. Why 
not? We don't live in a nanny state or police state or even a state that needs 
to be morally policed. We are all capable of making up our own minds whether we 
want a drink or not. A drink that doesn't have urine in it (hopefully).

By the way FN's interest in wine-making is not sudden. Last year he did a whole 
video on it. Maybe my memory is just better. I remember everything that 
happened 
- not just last year.

Best,
selma

[Goanet] YouTube - GERALDO & HIS ORCHESTRA: One Day When We Were Young

[Con Menezes]

Great Music & Bands of Yesteryear Geraldo& His Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPj5SXvPQLc