[Goanet-News] Goa news for December 2, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Why are Goan Catholics portrayed as drunkards, asks filmmaker - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisPlace: Panaji http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH_kIQ0dFLUoVleDvvAYF_e6dT-hAurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_why-are-goan-catholics-portrayed-as-drunkards-asks-filmmaker_1475108 *** Italian director plans biopic on Yunus - Times of India yXuAKK0hrncJusKQg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEBLFtH1EL8nGVqzMZFq6_ZlqHa8Qurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Italian-director-plans-biopic-on-Yunus/articleshow/7026348.cms *** Court acquits Goa's 'dupatta killer' in two more murder cases - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Giving him benefit of doubt, Goa's dupatta killer Mahanand Naik was acquitted in two murder cases on Wednesday by a local court here. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHBlwOCGKYC8ldbfkcGl6Slhn2_6Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Court-acquits-Goas-dupatta-killer-in-two-more-murder-cases-/articleshow/7025104.cms *** '54% youth take to smoking due to Bollywood, regional cinema' - Times of India ndia and the Voluntary Health Association of Goa (VHAG) said that ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF-cYu0hUObyo1ADLQxm-zDi8sb6Qurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/54-youth-take-to-smoking-due-to-Bollywood-regional-cinema/articleshow/7025811.cms *** BofA-ML downgrades Sesa Goa to 'underperform' - Economic Times Quick Facts http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEMYpJhzGp5ZZIXef38g0D0XMaUCgurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/stocks-in-news/BofA-ML-downgrades-Sesa-Goa-to-underperform/articleshow/7020896.cms *** Pintu's 106 help Goa post 334/5 against Hyderabad on Day 1 - Times of India b1CvdBFEdaFJGO8Q http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFheOwQx-eON0Fq8Ud6z8DY6-TNWAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/domestic-cricket/ranji-trophy/Pintus-106-help-Goa-post-334/5-against-Hyderabad-on-Day-1/articleshow/7023950.cms *** Indian Stocks: Hindalco, Indian Oil, JSW Steel, ONGC, Sesa Goa - Bloomberg 2-01/havells-hindustan-copper-reliance-sesa-india-stocks-preview.htmlHavells, Hindustan Copper, Reliance, Sesa: India Stocks Preview http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEiCng9iWjp5emFfi3osMdZ7A0G8gurl=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-01/indian-equities-hindalco-jsw-steel-phillips-carbon-sesa-goa.html *** Congress chief ministers part of Goa land scam: Parrikar - Sify ould-face-PAC-summons-Parrikar/43448.htmlRane could face PAC summons: Parrikar http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHt-Qh80Hfcs-alo-sKWcno-3Up2Qurl=http://sify.com/news/congress-chief-ministers-part-of-goa-land-scam-parrikar-news-national-kmbqOigfjdg.html *** FDA turns the heat on pharmacies - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The food and drugs administration (FDA) suspended licences of 24 pharmacies in Goa for committing serious irregularities during the period between ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFuJIvHyWzksjvCRXf8GuoGy42AQQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/FDA-turns-the-heat-on-pharmacies/articleshow/7025835.cms *** India Movers: Coal India, Maruti, ONGC, Sesa Goa, Tata Motors - Ticker Magazine cker MagazineSesa Goa Limited declined 2.8% to Rs 299.60 after the metals and mining company said it would stop mining operations at Thakurani mine in Orissa from ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFjw38eocgE5qlWTpQFhb7vuLPJqQurl=http://www.ticker.com/?page=market_updatestory=India-Movers:-Coal-India,-Maruti,-ONGC,-Sesa-Goa,-Tata-Motorsid=41748 Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Bapaichi Putak Xikvon
Bapaichi Putak Xikvon Mogea bhurgea ponnar mojo Bapui zaite pauti hea khobrentlean maka xikvon diunk sodtalo, ani ti khobor oxi asli; Eka ganvant ek minos aslo, kub girestkai tache thaim asli, bangar duddu zaite ani taka ekuch put aslo, noukri to kori naslo, dekun favo titlench to taka ditalo ani tacho hixob ghetalo. Punn tannem aplea putak apli kitli girestkai asa ti keddnanch sangonk nam. Bapui zantto zallo, xekim mornache tonnir paulolo, to aplea apurbayechea putak apovun soglem ugttem korun sangta, put aikun sogloch chintunk poddta, itli sogott girestkai astonna, maka hatt soddun kityeak diunk nam ? Tedna Bapui putak sangta, hi soggot girestkai tujich ani hanvem ti tukach doverlea, pun tika hat lauche addim tujea koxtamcho ek rupyea tori tatunt ghal ani magir tujean ti vaprunk zata, Bapaichi nimnni axa put paltolo mhunn bhas dita. Put rosteavellean ek dis chintit vetannam taka ek monis melta, tache lagim zaitench samon aslem ani to dusrea ganvant rautalo, to monis taka vicharta, tem samon vorunk taka konuim meltolo ghai mhunn, putak Bapaik dillea uttracho ugdas yeta ani to kobul zata tem samon vorunk, tor to munis taka kitle poixe ghetolo tem poilem vicharta, to sott khorum ekuch rupyeachi khoblat khorta ani saman urben uttaun vatek lagta, tin tas tori zalea uprant, babdo ekdomch thokta, otant tolmolta, tacho tallo sarkoch sukta, cholta titlen ogem anikui zodd lagta, paimak toltollo eta, eka zagear matxe tokos gheta, angavleak apli gham pusta ani tole vhellan portun vatek lagta anik ek tasan sumar to tea monxache ghara pauta, tedna mhunnosor tachi poristiti ekdomcuh bigolta ani to xintid bhair zavun zomnnir podtta, tea ghorachea donyean zaitech upai getoch tachea jivak sumarachem-xem dista ani to aple mozurecho ek rupyea ghevun aplea ghara portota. Lamb vatt ti asli, put chintunk poddta, ek rupyeak lagon maka itle tras kadche poddle tor moje Bapaik itli girestkai ektoupak kitle tras poddle astole ? Put tea disak Bapaichi gireskai goroz thoimch vaprunk ani folgam marunk vapurcho nam mhunn ek soput gheta. Hea xikvonnen putachem ginyean uzvadta Aichea khallar ami osli xikonn amchea bhurgeank ditanv ghai ? Mog asum Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] O MARIA A clip on Premier Show
O MARIA A clip on Premier Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWx8Tj-ceJI With Remo Fernandes, Rajandra Talak, Kevin D'Melo, John D' Silva, Roseferns, Cory Goldberg, Sulabha Arya etc joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] VASCO'S FAMILY- Portuguese blood, Indian roots
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:57:17 -0800 Charudatt Prabhudesai wrote : Dotorbab, do you have a problem just with reading between the lines? It appears to me that when you write there is much innuendo, much oblique tilt and in much of what you say there appears to be some concealed WARNING of sorts. Why are you on the defensive so? And, Who are you threatening so constantly? And why? And who is a NIZ goenkar? NIZ means sleep, therefore does it mean nizhlele Goenkars? (supine Goans)...? COMMENT : Mr. Charudatta, I think now my problem has increased to reading and comprehending what is written on the lines also. Maybe I should go in for a microscope instead of lenses. On the other hand, maybe I did not comprehend as the Hindi was more dominant than the Konkani and English in your above post. Can someone who ‘threatens’ be on the ‘defensive’? I have not studied Konkani, so I would like to know which dictionary says ‘Niz’ is ‘supine or sleep’? And finally, I do not see anything derogatory in my previous post. The self styled ‘deshpremis’ always have their hidden agenda, as was obvious in the so called “purification” of the sea. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] Old Goa 'Festachi- Feri' - a video clip
Old Goa 'Festachi- Feri' - a video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLCVDhIqz4 Feast Fair joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Dana Ullman: How Scientific Is Modern Medicine Really?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/how-scientific-is-modern_b_543158.html
[Goanet] GOENKAR KHON ANEE GOENKAR KHOI GHELE???
Dear Moderator, Please publish the following: - GOENKAR KON ANEE GOENKAR KHOI GHELE! Are Goans getting Goa in Goooan? Who is a Goan, What is a Goan, Why one is a Goan, When is a Goan, Which is a Goan, Where is a Goan, How come one becomes a Goan? Should all Goans be Bamon to avoid going in Gan? Best answer will get a prize - COP with FENI Oscar C. Lobo Melbourne.
[Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters special status for Goa
Freddy Fernandes wrote : During the Portuguese rule we never had a worry, as law was implemented with uniformity and in earnest, but what we have inherited from India in the last five decades is the corrupt law of the jungle, which has put the very existence of Goans in jeopardy. India’s wealth was plundered by the British, some auctioned and a lot is still decorating the British Monarchy, whereas most of the wealth taken by the Portuguese has been returned back to Goa. The British and their boats are welcome to India anytime but our so called freedom fighters think it’s imprudent for the Portuguese to even cast their shadow over Goa ? Why may I ask Mr. Karmali ? For a true authentic freedom fighter, fight for freedom does not end with a change in political scenario, true freedom is not just victory over imperial colonial rule. True freedom is, freedom from religious fanaticism, bigotry, casts, creeds, oppression, slavery, corruption, violation of our basic human rights and above all our freedom and our right to breathe clean fresh air, drink clean water and eat unadulterated food. Only when we attain these we can say we have attained freedom, if not the fight should still continue. Our so called freedom fighters are become deaf, dumb and blind, they see, hear or speak no evil against their masters, the corrupt government or their uncanny assault on our environment, as long as they get their dole they are not worried about the future of Goa and Goans. It’s only when it comes to the Portuguese names or any interaction with them, that our so called freedom fighter babus seem to get their perfectly pleated dhotis into a twist, they have somehow made themselves immune to the desecration and the decapitation of Goa, and have the audacity to call themselves freedom fighters. In Goa very Tom, Dick and Harry claims to be a freedom fighter. If not for they dole, Oh Goa, I would envy you ! Few days earlier there was a highly published cleansing ceremony by our freedom fighters, in doing so the water of the Arabian sea must have been further polluted, if at all cleansing was need, it should have been done when our beaches were under the attack of the tar balls. It would have indeed been very significant. Comments : Camilo Fernandes Yes the so called freedom fighters are truly deaf, dumb, blind and silent now when Goa is being destroyed. If they and their supporters are really genuine, sincere and love Goa then they should not dwell in the past, instead of protesting and opposing the present corrupt politicians whose only aim is to amass wealth at any costs and destroy Goa. I am sure some of the genuine freedom fighters who may now be old are regretting what they did looking at the sorry state of our beloved beautiful Goa. Many so called freedom fighters are only in name as many of their family members/relations have chosen to opt for Portuguese passports. How can they object to a friendly visit of a ship from Portugal when India and Portugal have diplomatic relationship? All they did was to get some stupid publicity.Rather than burying their head in the earth to all the destruction taking place in Goa they should come out openly protesting against this and not waste their valuable!!! time protesting against trivial matters like changing Portuguse names, visits from Portugal etc. WENZEL D?MELLO, Mapusa has rightly written in the Navhind (given below) that seeking special status for Goa should be the top priority of all Goans to save Goa. The people should demand from the politicians that one of the best ways to save Goa is to seek special staus just as in the hilly states in north east India, and I think Sikkim/Darjeeling where their natural beauty is untouched. Matheran too as far as I know is protected and no development can take place there and even vehicles are banned from entering it to preserve its natural beauty. Camilo Fernandes *Seeking Special Status for Goa *THERE are many issues plaguing Goa. Foremost on the minds of the people is the garbage problem, then the NH widening programme, corruption, the fast depleting natural beauty due to indiscriminate mining, rampant urbanisation, etc etc. In all this, the people of Goa and its politicians seem to have kept the major issue of seeking special status for Goa on the back burner. Like the hilly states In North East India, Goa too needs special status to retain its cultural identity and integrity. Goa is first of all a very small state and large scale migration from other states is changing the demographic identity of Goa rapidly. Besides this, we also have an ecological disaster looming on the horizon. If Goa gets special status, many of these problems will be resolved and we will be able to at least put a stop to some of the problems that we face. We have already attained statehood; we have got Konkani as our official language; so what we need now is special status
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Some more Old Goa Pics
MATTOV for mass http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5221561827/sizes/l/ at the main entranace – with basilica in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5223079526/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5223078922/sizes/l/ The devotees under the Mattov http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5223080362/sizes/l/ Identify this church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5223077364/sizes/l/ Hindi Mass http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5216852599/sizes/l/ people on the lawn relaxing http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5216854801/sizes/l/ Extra: All buses coming from the south via Cortalim Neura terminated here Parking for buses. Which mean people have to walk about 30 minutes to the church Basilica– No bodybody cares for the sick and elderly not even the church. It took us/elderly more than 30 minutes. Not even pay taxi available nearby. There should have been shuttle service as it had such ‘Free ferry Service’ to ferry IFFI dlegates from Old GMC to Kala Academy etc. At least for the sick and elderly http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5223076698/sizes/l/ Mobile toilets closer to the church Who for? The police and the security personnel? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5223075934/sizes/l/ But it seems Big cry and no wolf? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk34/5222478413/sizes/l/ the videos The Mass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9BFLUVOuk The feast fair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLCVDhIqz4 arc...@gmail.com joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters special status for Goa
Forget the Freedom Fighters who are receiving dole. They are reduced to beggars before the government in liberated Goa. Goa can only count on those freedom fighters who have not been lured by the government's dole. They are the true freedom fighters but hardly a few are remaining. As for Special Status for Goa, i personally do not think that Goans know what they are aksing for. Politicians were quick to ask for special economic status. Some industrialists will ask for special industrial status. So Goans must confirm what is meant by 'Special Status' and not blindly jump on the bandwagon only to realise that some vested interests have benefited. It should not turn out like the agitation to demand Konkani as official language and the last hour claim it must be only in the devanagiri script. Those who used Roman script Konkani and who selled the ranks at the agitations were fooled. There are enough vultures around to capitalise on any issue that can give them political mileage and power. -Soter
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Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
As far as I know, a Ladainha can be sung at any time of tne year. It may be to give thanks for an auspicious event, eg after the birth of a child, or the blessing of a house, etc. In my family, we used to have a Ladainha (feast) after a nine-day rosary of Our Lady of Sorrows (sung in Latin and Konkani on alternate days) followed by Salve Rainha in Portuguese and Virgem Mae de Deus, in the month of October; a Ladainha in May to celebrate entronizacao -don't know till this date what this means. A similar Ladainha was also held at my maternal grand-parents place at end of May. Ladainha can therefore be celebrated in thanksgiving for a particular event, which is not the same as the American Thanksgiving. Gabriel de Figueiredo On 30/11/2010, at 7:53 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
[Goanet] GOENKAR KHON ANEE GOENKAR KHOI GHELE???
On Tue Nov 30 23:39:05 PST 2010 oscarlobo1 at optusnet.com.au said : GOENKAR KON ANEE GOENKAR KHOI GHELE! Are Goans getting Goa in Goooan? 1- Who is a Goan, 2- What is a Goan, 3- Why one is a Goan, 4- When is a Goan, 5- Which is a Goan, 6- Where is a Goan, 7- How come one becomes a Goan? 8- Should all Goans be Bamon to avoid going in Gan? 9- Best answer will get a prize - COP with FENI Oscar C. Lobo Melbourne. COMMENT : 1- One who understands Goanese. 2- A crab on two legs. 3- The ability to put the other down when trying to climb. 4- On full moon days. 5- If you can identify the claws, you’ll know which. 6- Only in Goa, not overseas!!! 7- Meet politician, get ration card. 8- Sadly that virus is endemic in the subcontinent. 9- Have you started distilling at Melbourne? Or have some Aunty from Dobitalau reached Melbourne?:-) Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] Codd bottles...
Frederick, dont tell us that U thought Santosh and his kind invented them? The glass soda bottles that has 'a glass marble' that served as a stopper under pressure of the fluid inside! --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoron...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't even realise that the Goa soda bottles which were so famous here not so long ago trace their roots to a Brit who invented them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Codd Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Herald's 'OPinionatD' - 1 December 2010 - Goa, The Portuguese and India - By. Adv. Antonio Lobo
Dear Floriano, No doubt an outstanding contribution by the prominent Adv. António Lobo. Thank you for sharing it with us. What is important is to make sure the truth prevails. I note with interested that more and more people are spreading the truth and making the truth known to everyone else. Best regards Paulo Dias. -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of floriano Sent: 01 December 2010 04:54 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Subject: [Goanet] Fw: Herald's 'OPinionatD' - 1 December 2010 - Goa, The Portuguese and India - By. Adv. Antonio Lobo
Re: [Goanet] Dana Ullman: How Scientific Is Modern Medicine Really?
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/how-scientific- is-modern_b_543158.html This article on the Huffington Post political website was posted several months ago by Gilbert. At that time this is what I had written: MY QUOTE It looks like Huffington Post has become a full-fledged dishonest pseudoscientific operation. How embarrassing that a silly diatribe from a publicist and salesman for homeopathy is posted as a serious article questioning the scientific nature of modern medicine? MY UNQUOTE Please see - http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg60565.html I had also exposed the fact that most of the claims made in the article in question were entirely bogus. Here is what I had written: MY QUOTE That his article is a silly diatribe against modern medicine is obvious. Despite its title it says nothing about science, and nothing about what is meant by scientific. The whole thing is simply a transparent assault on the motives and sincerity of doctors, other mainstream medical professionals and the medical establishment as a whole. Here are some pertinent quotes: QUOTE Despite the truly massive amounts of money that doctors, hospitals and drug companies are effectively extracting from patients, employers, insurance companies and governments, we are certainly not getting our money's worth. UNQUOTE Dana Ullman QUOTE Although modern physicians may point their collective finger at various alternative or natural treatment modalities as examples of quackery, it is conventional medical treatments today that are out-of-this-world expensive, and despite real questionable efficacy of their treatments, doctors give patients the guise of science. UNQUOTE Dana Ullman It is clear that because of his self-interest in homeopathy (an alternative treatment modality in his words), all he has is a personal grudge against doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, etc. This has nothing to do with science. If he cared so much about a discipline being scientific then he would have demanded that homeopathic principles and practices be subjected to the same rigors of self-critical scientific inquiry as modern medicine is, which he has never done. If anything, his idea of science or the state of being scientific appears to be exactly the opposite of what it is supposed to be, to allow special exemption for homeopathy. Above all, the fact that his entire case is a sham, fraught with dishonesty, is also evident from the fact that he has deliberately falsified or twisted facts from the following BMJ Clinical Evidence blog item, which is his principal reference in his diatribe: http://clinicalevidence.bmj.com/ceweb/about/knowledge.jsp Here are his false statements: 1. Eight percent were as likely to be harmful as beneficial .Dana Ullman The truth from the BMJ blog is 8% represents a trade-off between benefits and harm 2. 46 percent were unknown whether they were efficacious or harmful .Dana Ullman The truth from the BMJ blog is 49% are of unknown effectiveness. There is no mention of them being harmful in the latter category. Here is how the BMJ blog defines this category: Unknown effectiveness - For which there are currently insufficient data or data of inadequate quality. BMJ Clinical Evidence Blog Please see: http://clinicalevidence.bmj.com/ceweb/about/guide.jsp To get a sense of what this means, if BMJ Clinical Evidence criteria are applied to homeopathy or any other alternative to modern scientific medicine, more than 80% of their treatments would fall under the Unknown effectiveness category, and all of the rest under Likely to be ineffective category. Please note that BMJ is only considering hard evidence published in peer-reviewed medical literature. So testimonials, grandmother's stories and opinion editorials do not count. MY UNQUOTE Please see - http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg60570.html In addition to the above, I had also refuted another bogus statistical claim in the article. Here it is: MY QUOTE QUOTE Although we are commonly told that we are living longer than ever now, this is simply a clever, even tricky, use of statistics. The fact of the matter is that there has been a considerable reduction in deaths during the first five years of life ... and this reduction in deaths has resulted primarily from a medicinal agent called soap, not from the use of any specific conventional pharmaceutical agent. Ultimately, an American who was 40 years old in 1900 and an American who was 40 years old in 1960 has a similar chance of living to 80 years old today. UNQUOTE ...Dana Ullman Please see: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/how-scientific-is-modern_b_543158.html Talk about stupid and fraudulent use of statistics. Please note how he makes claims about the first five years of life and the situation now, but then turns around and
[Goanet] Is Christianity being sidelined in UK in order not to offend other faiths??? - Daily Mail dt. 1/12/10
Former Archbishop Lord Carey: We mustn't be ashamed of Christmas in these politically correct times By STEVE DOUGHTY Concerned: Lord Carey said that the campaign against Christmas was part of a broader attack against the faithBritain has become ashamed of Christmas, former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey declared yesterday.He said Christmas cards are censored, school nativity plays stripped of Christian content and Christmas decorations banned in the campaign to block the festival out of the calendar. Lord Carey said the trend was part of a broader attack on the Christian faith which underpins tolerance and democracy in this country. He made his remarks in support of the launch today of a move to persuade Christians to show their faith in public and challenge employers who stop staff expressing their Christianity. The ‘Not Ashamed’ campaign, organised by the pressure group Christian Concern, will encourage millions to wear a cross to work or a badge with a slogan saying they are ‘not ashamed’ of their religion. Pope Benedict also criticised the marginalisation of Christianity in Britain and the accompanying push to discourage the celebration of Christmas during his recent state visit. Lord Carey said: ‘The attempt to air-brush the Christian faith out of the picture is especially obvious as Christmas approaches. ‘The cards that used to carry Christmas wishes now bear “Season’s greetings”. The local school nativity play is watered down or disappears altogether. ‘The local council switches on “winter lights” in place of Christmas decorations. Even Christmas has become something of which some are ashamed.’ He added that ‘a new climate hostile to our country’s tradition and history is developing’. Lord Carey asked: ‘Do we really want to consign the Christian faith and the churches to the sidelines when they continue to give so much to our society? And do we really want to rebrand Christmas, empty it of its meaning, and ignore its significance for us today?’ The former Church of England leader, who retired from Lambeth Palace in 2002, said that in many areas of life, Christianity was being pushed out of sight. He said: ‘The evidence has been mounting in recent years. Teachers and council employees are suspended for offering to say a prayer. A devoted nurse is banned from wearing a cross, a British Airways worker told to remove hers. Roman Catholic adoption agencies are closed down under new laws. Christian marriage registrars who cannot, in good conscience, preside over civil partnership ceremonies are summarily dismissed.’ Lord Carey was recently criticised by Appeal Court judges for intervening in a case in which a Christian was sacked to plead for acceptance of Christian values. Lord Justice Laws said it would be ‘deeply unprincipled’ to protect Christian beliefs and added that ‘it is hard to know precisely what Lord Carey has in mind’. Lord Carey came under fire again yesterday from secularist groups. Andrew Copson, of the British Humanist Association, said: ‘The increasingly desperate attempts to work up a victim narrative of “Christianophobia” by these activists have no basis in reality.’
[Goanet] Coconut Oil vs. Olive Oil
http://www.healthiertalk.com/coconut-oil-vs-olive-oil
Re: [Goanet] Goa Inquisition
Gilbert Lawrence wrote... .likely Linschoten knew the Goa Inquisition was a paper-tiger; despite what Richard Zimmer and his cohorts say about the Goa Inquisition. Gilbert is right, there was no Goa inquisition. Please do not shoot the messenger (moi) for pointing this out but Gilbert is correct to imply the Portuguese were the first native inhabitants of Goa and Goan Hindus invaded the place. The first thing they did was build temples on existing churches. Subsequently, Catholics architecturally modified the temples by constructing churches over temples but this was purely for aesthetic reasons. I mean, who can be against a little aesthetic change, like the Afghan Taliban did to Buddhist statues a few years ago. The only incident we have on record regarding the Goa Inquisition is one Catholic stole some milk sometime between Oct 4 to Oct 14, 1582 but Pope Gregory XIII changed the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar to remove those 10 days and wipe out the Goa inquisition. Of course atheist medical doctors paid by BIG Pharma drug companies have said that the Pope changed the calendar to bring it back in line with the solstices. We know how deceptive scientists can be, especially when some blamed Catholics for irregularities in the Vatican Bank about 35 years ago, when everyone knows that Parsis, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, atheists, agnostics, and Martians were responsible. Can you imagine blaming Catholics for the Vatican Bank troubles! I hope everyone thanks Gilbert for his defense of Catholics. George
Re: [Goanet] VASCO'S blood, Indian roots...Nascimento
Mr Prabhudesai, Why are you reproducing this venom from Santosh (who is unable to debate me) as mine???. These are not my words at all. Nascy Caldeira --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Charudatt Prabhudesai char-...@hotmail.com wrote: To: post list goanet@lists.goanet.org Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 2:03 AM Nascimento: Nascy's opinion: RE: Other words like vituperation, vitriol, invective, smear, calumny, obloquy etc. etc.etc., which may more aptly substitute the word opinion, in your last post. Even Nascy's Blasphemy might have done well, but 'opinion'? Think again (if you can, that is!). Nascy agrees fully and truly. RE:- Oscar Wilde once said, Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. Think(if you can, that is!) of those you agree with, for the dread of your accord with them may shut them up for all time to come.
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (2Dec10)
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[Goanet] Goanet] Stinking garbage in Goa
Ref: Message-ID: 9838cb66232640a2b3c2f5a9c84a2...@home I love Goa like any other good and loving son of Goa. But JoeGoaUK is no son of Goa., you are very wrong to say this. and also to say that JoeGoaUk should be stripped of his cameras, arrested and jailed for life. I say whatever JoeGoa is doing because its his hobby. he wish to see Goa clean. Goas Politician clean and Goas image shine. People who were enjoying holidaying in Goa in 1970's and later in 1986 say Goa is not the same, complaining about the garbage and the baggers. Goa visitors who were praising for the clean beaches of Goa are upset with recent developements. Joe is pointing out and waking the Goa Goverment. Like Camilo I too want to say Joe, you are really doing a great Job. Floriano, dont hurt Joes feelings. Regards Peter Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
Gabriel, 'entronizacao' must be the the embodiment of the 5th Glorious Mystery, the enthronement and crowning of the Blessed Virngin Mary as the Queen of All Heaven. Vai tudo bem la abaixo? Alfred Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:53:52 -0800 From: gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving? As far as I know, a Ladainha can be sung at any time of tne year. It may be to give thanks for an auspicious event, eg after the birth of a child, or the blessing of a house, etc. In my family, we used to have a Ladainha (feast) after a nine-day rosary of Our Lady of Sorrows (sung in Latin and Konkani on alternate days) followed by Salve Rainha in Portuguese and Virgem Mae de Deus, in the month of October; a Ladainha in May to celebrate entronizacao -don't know till this date what this means. A similar Ladainha was also held at my maternal grand-parents place at end of May. Ladainha can therefore be celebrated in thanksgiving for a particular event, which is not the same as the American Thanksgiving. Gabriel de Figueiredo On 30/11/2010, at 7:53 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters special status for Goa
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, soter so...@bsnl.in wrote: As for Special Status for Goa, i personally do not think that Goans know what they are aksing for. Politicians were quick to ask for special economic status. Some industrialists will ask for special industrial status. So Goans must confirm what is meant by 'Special Status' and not blindly jump on the bandwagon only to realise that some vested interests have benefited. Hi Soter Can you (time permitting) state what you believe Special Status should entail. This will give readers an idea, perhaps a blueprint to consider. George
[Goanet] YouTube - MOONLIGHT SERENADE BY GLENN MILLER
Swing Bands of Yesteryear.Glenn Miller His Orchestra. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjq1aTLjrOEfeature=related
Re: [Goanet] VASCO'S blood, Indian roots...Nascimento
This nascimentation appears to be wild fabrication out of thin air. Charudatt's words are his own, not mine. He, like Vasant, has rightly sensed the problem. As far as debating nascimentality is concerned, I will tell Forsu who drinks the right kind of bootlegged cheap feni to subscribe to Goanet for that purpose. Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 12/1/10, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Why are you reproducing this venom from Santosh (who is unable to debate me) as mine???. These are not my words at all. Nascy Caldeira --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Charudatt Prabhudesai char-...@hotmail.com wrote: Nascimento: Nascy's opinion: RE: Other words like vituperation, vitriol, invective, smear, calumny, obloquy etc. etc.etc., which may more aptly substitute the word opinion, in your last post. Even Nascy's Blasphemy might have done well, but 'opinion'? Think again (if you can, that is!). Nascy agrees fully and truly. RE:- Oscar Wilde once said, Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. Think(if you can, that is!) of those you agree with, for the dread of your accord with them may shut them up for all time to come.
[Goanet] Toronto Death Notice Stats
The Toronto Star holds a near-monopoly of Toronto death notices on the level that the Times of India was once for Bombay (may still be, I don't know). I spent an idle one hour this evening morbidly poring over today's print issue which seems representative of any other day of the week. Here are the resulting stats: Total death notices 59, Goan-like names 2. Armando D'Oliveira and Maria Fernandes could be Portuguese or Azorean instead of Goan. BY AGE 36-40: 1 40-45: 1 56-60: 4 66-70: 3 71-75: 2 76-80: 3 81-85: 13 86-90: 11 91-95: 3 96-99: 2 100: 2 Unmentioned age: 14 BY PROBABLE CAUSE Heart/Stroke: 6 Cancer: 8 Alzheimers: 1 Kidney: 2 Schizophrenia: 1 Lung Disease: 1 Cerebral Palsy: 1 Un-indicated causes: 39 Probable causes are indicated by the relevant charities mentioned, since it is usually the custom to ask for donations in lieu of flowers, to the Heart and Stroke Foundation or the Cancer Society if the respective deceased has passed away of a heart attack or of cancer. A shot of good liquor needs to be raised for the two 100 year olds - Reta Grace Younger and Theresa Marenick. Had to be both ladies, they kill off the men with all that argument. Probably departed with full control of their faculties from what I see of seniors here. One day they are shaking a leg to a Benny Goodman number at the seniors centre evening entertainment and the next morning you hear they are gone. What a lovely start to the journey heading to the Happy Hunting Grounds, a phrase that was common in the Dell cowboy and injun comics of an age ago. Far too many younger people are dying in Goa as observed in the Herald, compared to Toronto. Is this due to road accidents or merely due to lower life expectancy? Roland.
[Goanet] Goa news for December 2, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Why are Goan Catholics portrayed as drunkards, asks filmmaker - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisPlace: Panaji http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH_kIQ0dFLUoVleDvvAYF_e6dT-hAurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_why-are-goan-catholics-portrayed-as-drunkards-asks-filmmaker_1475108 *** Italian director plans biopic on Yunus - Times of India yXuAKK0hrncJusKQg http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEBLFtH1EL8nGVqzMZFq6_ZlqHa8Qurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Italian-director-plans-biopic-on-Yunus/articleshow/7026348.cms *** Court acquits Goa's 'dupatta killer' in two more murder cases - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Giving him benefit of doubt, Goa's dupatta killer Mahanand Naik was acquitted in two murder cases on Wednesday by a local court here. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHBlwOCGKYC8ldbfkcGl6Slhn2_6Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Court-acquits-Goas-dupatta-killer-in-two-more-murder-cases-/articleshow/7025104.cms *** '54% youth take to smoking due to Bollywood, regional cinema' - Times of India ndia and the Voluntary Health Association of Goa (VHAG) said that ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF-cYu0hUObyo1ADLQxm-zDi8sb6Qurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/54-youth-take-to-smoking-due-to-Bollywood-regional-cinema/articleshow/7025811.cms *** BofA-ML downgrades Sesa Goa to 'underperform' - Economic Times Quick Facts http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEMYpJhzGp5ZZIXef38g0D0XMaUCgurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/stocks-in-news/BofA-ML-downgrades-Sesa-Goa-to-underperform/articleshow/7020896.cms *** Pintu's 106 help Goa post 334/5 against Hyderabad on Day 1 - Times of India b1CvdBFEdaFJGO8Q http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFheOwQx-eON0Fq8Ud6z8DY6-TNWAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/domestic-cricket/ranji-trophy/Pintus-106-help-Goa-post-334/5-against-Hyderabad-on-Day-1/articleshow/7023950.cms *** Indian Stocks: Hindalco, Indian Oil, JSW Steel, ONGC, Sesa Goa - Bloomberg 2-01/havells-hindustan-copper-reliance-sesa-india-stocks-preview.htmlHavells, Hindustan Copper, Reliance, Sesa: India Stocks Preview http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEiCng9iWjp5emFfi3osMdZ7A0G8gurl=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-01/indian-equities-hindalco-jsw-steel-phillips-carbon-sesa-goa.html *** Congress chief ministers part of Goa land scam: Parrikar - Sify ould-face-PAC-summons-Parrikar/43448.htmlRane could face PAC summons: Parrikar http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHt-Qh80Hfcs-alo-sKWcno-3Up2Qurl=http://sify.com/news/congress-chief-ministers-part-of-goa-land-scam-parrikar-news-national-kmbqOigfjdg.html *** FDA turns the heat on pharmacies - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The food and drugs administration (FDA) suspended licences of 24 pharmacies in Goa for committing serious irregularities during the period between ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFuJIvHyWzksjvCRXf8GuoGy42AQQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/FDA-turns-the-heat-on-pharmacies/articleshow/7025835.cms *** India Movers: Coal India, Maruti, ONGC, Sesa Goa, Tata Motors - Ticker Magazine cker MagazineSesa Goa Limited declined 2.8% to Rs 299.60 after the metals and mining company said it would stop mining operations at Thakurani mine in Orissa from ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFjw38eocgE5qlWTpQFhb7vuLPJqQurl=http://www.ticker.com/?page=market_updatestory=India-Movers:-Coal-India,-Maruti,-ONGC,-Sesa-Goa,-Tata-Motorsid=41748 Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] the celebration of the feast of Saint Francis Xavier by the G.O.A of Toronto
Dear folk of our GoaNet, Last Sunday ( the 28th of November ) after many years of absence ( about 11 to be exact) I attended the celebration of the SFX feast done by our local G.O. A. (Goan Overseas Association ) of Toronto , Canada and I was pleasantly surprised by the careful organisation by the three ladies who organised every detail very lovingly and carefully . From the numerous volunteers including the choir who sang old and loved konkani hymns during the Mass, including Fr. Cecil Noronha ,the celebrant, who in his usual humourous style exhorted us to be faithful to our catholic faith despite the usual north american temptations of a consumer economy, and in these days of being politically correct which requires to set aside our moral beliefs to be more accomodating to the present culture, and the various other goan folk who gave of their time and efforts to make this event a success, I take my hat off to them ! I say kudos to the Toronto G.O. A who thru ` the many unsung folk who take the trouble to keep our devotion toamche Goencho Saibe , Saint Francis Xavier alive. May our efforts to help in the canonisation of Padre Agnel DeSouza and the Blessed Jose Vaz be looked at favourably by the Vatican and the Lord in Heaven. Joe Lobo
Re: [Goanet] VASCO'S... Indian roots (Nascy Caldeira)
Dear Mr. Caldeira, Please accept my apologies first, and then my explanation to why I reacted the way I did. It was a reaction against your earlier post where you had written something about looking down on Goans. I was simply putting across a mild protest. Words are power capsules. The apt word carries within it power of truth, and Truth is a formidable thing. Pen, they say, is mightier than the sword, for it can mobilise opinion, form armies. However opposed we may be to each other in on-line debates, let us not forget that in life we are, with all our flaws and strengths, Goans. Charudatta Ram Prabhudesai
Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
Tudo bem, D. Alfredo. Estou neste momento emGoa, cuidando pela minha mae, who is presently recovering from a gall bladder operation. She is doing well given her advanced age. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo On 02/12/2010, at 1:42 AM, Alfred de Tavares alfredtava...@hotmail.com wrote: Gabriel, 'entronizacao' must be the the embodiment of the 5th Glorious Mystery, the enthronement and crowning of the Blessed Virngin Mary as the Queen of All Heaven. Vai tudo bem la abaixo? Alfred Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:53:52 -0800 From: gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving? As far as I know, a Ladainha can be sung at any time of tne year. It may be to give thanks for an auspicious event, eg after the birth of a child, or the blessing of a house, etc. In my family, we used to have a Ladainha (feast) after a nine-day rosary of Our Lady of Sorrows (sung in Latin and Konkani on alternate days) followed by Salve Rainha in Portuguese and Virgem Mae de Deus, in the month of October; a Ladainha in May to celebrate entronizacao -don't know till this date what this means. A similar Ladainha was also held at my maternal grand-parents place at end of May. Ladainha can therefore be celebrated in thanksgiving for a particular event, which is not the same as the American Thanksgiving. Gabriel de Figueiredo On 30/11/2010, at 7:53 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
[Goanet] Use of Helmets
I have no intentions of resurrecting a past topic on use of helmets. But here is a medical paper for information and education for the health-conscious person. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-c-senelick-md/motorcycle-and-bicycle-he_b_786402.html Regards, GL
[Goanet] Coconut Oil vs Olive Oil
With regard to the post from Con Menezes with the US link, a few stray thoughts and observations: Who would have thought that coconut oil would be good for health, even for diabetes, slowing down the absorption of sugar. A long time ago, too long it seems, Goans reveled in the use of coconut oil, They used it for sweets, for making curries and double whammy - for frying pork. There was nothing to beat the aroma of a freshly butchered piglet out in the yard behind the house, with a small portion of the meat being diced and fried immediately in coconut oil and served to the small crowd watching the proceedings. Too cruel and primitive for tastes now, but no regret for those times either. Then there was the dried and salted fish, fried in the C oil and then shredded and moistened in home-made vinegar. No better accompaniment to the fat parboiled rice served with a meat or fish curry from the clay pot. Then C oil became a dirty word. Unsaturated oils became the norm and soon after that the in-thing was mono-unsaturated oils instead of the poly-unsaturated variety. In the Gulf of the 70s and 80s Mazola corn oil became the standard bearer of good cooking oil and it was plentiful and cheap. Olive oil was a fad and a fancy. But not for too long. Somehow olive oil, the more virgin the better, was foisted on the Goan housewife by word of mouth. The industry said canola contained more Omega3 fatty acids and was therefore healthier than olive oil but the Goan refused to believe that a cheaper substitute for olive oil was indeed healthier. No one told all this to the older folk of older times who lived, breathed and ate everything cooked, fried and baked in the local coconut oil. Those in the snob health fad circle refused to concede that these folk lived longer because they even ate raw coconuts. Conveniently it was said that the walk to the Margao market due to the caminaoes coming full from the Borim bridge was solely responsible for long lives. Even despite the bad effects of coconut oil. Now we have come full circle. The people in Goa have enough money to buy olive oil. They will refuse to go back to coconut oil even if it is healthier. Giving new meaning to the old phrase more money means worse health. And all this without assigning any blame to even the more expensive brands of Indian Made Foreign Liquor - an oxymoron par excellence. Roland Toronto 416-453-3371
Re: [Goanet] VASCO'S FAMILY- Portuguese blood, Indian roots
Hi Vasant, I eat beef and pork. But I like fish sold by fisherwomen who are also looked down upon by some of the same foreign Goencar, even though these ladies eat beef and pork like me. I am sure you have noted that the problem that this Indian is facing is how to transplant this imported Goan bodd from the dhonpor to its rightful place. Cheers, Santosh P.S. BTW, it is great that you are a regular on Goanet. The more sense that is injected into a forum like this by people like you, the better it is. Otherwise, it would remain just another propaganda forum for cranky marginal ideologies. --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Santosh, Having unfortunately posted this article and hoping that we would see the brighter side of the Goan spirit-I am kind of pained at the level of discourse-it appears Santosh Baab-You seem to have a serious problem-you may consider yourself a Niz Goenkar from Chimbel-but Saiba do you eat Beef or Pork?-perhaps for some you don't qualify as a Goenkar,unless you do-you are in the minds of some up above probably a Konknno who has been unable to appreciate your missed glorious past as a result of accidental or occidental birth or whatever and needs some enlightenment.It does not matter what you do now. So as you look upwards for a Sabaash,you can also look Down Under and wonder on what on earth is going on with some of our Goenkars!! What ever happened to the Goenkar slogan Ami Sogglen Ek? Dev Sogglen Amka Boren Dis Deum! Best Vasant
[Goanet] Christmas Party for Children with Special Needs
Christmas Party 3rd December 2010 is World Disability Day. Lourdes Convent High School, Saligao, and TIES (Towards Inclusion Everywhere in Society - a parent group )is organising a Christmas Party for children with Special Needs and regular children on 4th Dec, 2010 at the school premises. The children will spend the whole morning together in fun and games. The students of Nirmala College, special B.Ed section, will help out with the Art and Craft activities. Altogether 50 children with special needs will participate in the programme. Each special child will be paired with a regular child from the regular classes. The special children participating are from various schools - Holy Cross High School - Siolim, Holy Cross High School - Bastora, Chubby Cheeks High School - Spring Valley, Nirmala School - Altinho and Lourdes Convent High School - Saligao. All these schools have Resource Rooms for special children in the regular setup. This programme will help both children learn from each other and help be better citizens of the country. TIES is also having a Jumble Sale at Holy Cross, Bastora on 4th Dec, 2010. =
Re: [Goanet] GOENKAR KHON ANEE GOENKAR KHOI GHELE???
Haka mhonntat niz Goykar: Goycho husko dakoitole, Goychi asmitai samballtole, Goychi porompora mhukar vortole. Xebas RANENDRA TALAK BAB. Kurleanchi vagnnuk ghevn aslolea Kristanvank tuvem xikoilem koxe toren Goychem vhoddponn saballchem poi tem. Why is a Goan Pedro always a drunkard, asks filmmaker Panaji, Dec 1 A Goan filmmaker will now tap the doors of the archbishop, asking him to examine the stereotypical portrayal of Catholics in Bollywood cinema. Rajendra Talak, whose film 'O Maria' was screened at the 41st International Film Festival of India (IFFI) Tuesday, said that a special screening would be conducted for Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao, a religious leader of the Roman Catholic community in Goa, complaining about the portrayal of Goans in Hindi films as vain alcoholics. 'Hindi films keep labelling a character (Pedro) in the movie as boozer and through that they are labelling all the Goans as drunkards. This is wrong. I want the archbishop to see this,' Talak said Wednesday. 'I will be conducting a special screening for the archbishop, press, politicians, bureaucrats, everyone. Perhaps this is the first time that a Goan Catholic has been projected properly than as a drunkard like in most Hindi films,' Talak said. Talak's film starring Shernaz Patel, Sulbha Arya and American actor Cory Goldberg deals with the subject of a sense of decadence seeping in Goa, afflicted by rampant, uncontrolled in-migration, drug abuse and rampant sale of land. 'Why Pedro has to be a drunkard always? And why that Pedro has to be Goan Pedro only? Aren't there Pedros in other states too?' Talak asked. Several Christian groups in the state have in the past dissented against the manner in which Hindi films had stereotyped the image of a Goan Catholic home, where women wear short skirts and men are beer, whisky or feni swilling alcoholics a la 'Bobby'. Dear Moderator, Please publish the following: - GOENKAR KON ANEE GOENKAR KHOI GHELE! Are Goans getting Goa in Goooan? Who is a Goan, What is a Goan, Why one is a Goan, When is a Goan, Which is a Goan, Where is a Goan, How come one becomes a Goan? Should all Goans be Bamon to avoid going in Gan? Best answer will get a prize - COP with FENI Oscar C. Lobo Melbourne.
[Goanet] Story of a “fake” Freedom Fighter
Story of a “fake” Freedom Fighter. There once was a “fake” Freedom Fighter. During the time of Goa’s Freedom Movement , he did something very ‘silly’ , and was sent to prison for a few days , but it being the Freedom Movement time, by a strange coincidence, his “silliness” was wrongly interpreted as ‘patriotism’ and was declared as a Freedom Fighter of Goa. Quite a few other Freedom Fighters of Goa , knew that this guy was a “fake” , but no one reported the matter to the authorities , probably because they themselves also had something to hide. Now, we all know that humans have a “conscience”. This “fake” Freedom Fighter also had a conscience and his conscience started biting him , for falsely registering himself as a Freedom Fighter. But what could he do now ? He had already taken advantage of all the Government Schemes for Freedom Fighters . His family had already benefitted from the various concessions given by the Government to Freedom Fighters. He was regularly collecting the fat purse of “Freedom Fighter’s Pension”. How could he and his family , now, live without these “comforts” ? But a “conscience” is conscience, and it is the job of every conscience, to question its owner for his wrongs. This man’s conscience too, went about it’s job. He hated his conscience for that. However, it is just not possible to totally avoid the constant prickings of a conscience , for long. “May be “ he said to himself , “if I spoke against anything and everything that is Portuguese, my conscience will stop bothering me”. Now , the entire Christian community of Goa had Portuguese names and Portuguese surnames . He decided that he should demand , that all Goans with Portuguese names should change their names to something Indian. No one in Goa liked his “demand”. Who would ? The “move” made him very unpopular among the Christians. He realized his mistake. So he changed his strategy. He demanded that Goans must change all “sign-boards’ of Roads and Institutions bearing Portuguese names. Here too, many of the Portuguese names on “sign-bords”, were of leaders that did good for Goa. People started criticising him for this “move” also. He became all the more unpopular. So he changed his strategy once again and said, “ Ok , only sign-boards bearing names of the representatives of the Colonial Portuguese regime, should be changed ”. This “move” of his was, to some extent, acceptable to the people . He was happy. But that was not enough for Goans to think well of him as a “Freedom Fighter’. He needed to do something more. He came up with a bright idea. He thought “ the Konkani Language is written by the Christian community in the Roman Script, and the Roman script was brought to Goa by the Portuguese”, so he should oppose it. This he did. Fortunately for him , he found supporters for this “move”, from among the few silent Marathi sympathizers who were looking out for an opportunity to kill Konkani and establish Marathi as the Official language of Goa. He became very popular among them and they made full use of him to promote their “cause”. At last , now , he was tasting “success”. But the Goans who “smelt a rat” in this move, started disliking him. His close friends thought of him as a “Judas” who sold their Mother Tongue Konkani to the Marathi Lobby. He was all confused. He did not understand where he was going wrong. Goans started doubting him all the more now. What more could he do ? Time was running out. Just when he thought that there were no more issues left for him to take up, a news item appeared in the Goan newspapers “The Portuguese ship N.R.P.Sagres was sailing to Goa to mark 500 years of the arrival of navigator, Vasco da Gama to Goa, and the Governor of Goa and the Chief Minister were both going to attend a celebration dinner on that Ship “. He jumped with joy and said to himself , aloud . “here is my opportunity now, to prove that I am a real freedom fighter”. So he collected a few of his cronies from among the Freedom Fighter s and called for a “Press Conference’”. ”How can Goans rejoice the Day when Portuguese entered Goa and established Goa as their Colony ?” he said. “I will organize a Dharna in the Port Town and physically stop both of them, from boarding the Ship”, he roared at the Press Meeting. The Governor and the Chief Minister did not want a showdown with the Group of Freedom Fighters, so they backed out from the ‘Dinner’. Our “fake freedom Fighter ‘ jumped with joy. “I won ! I won !” he said to himself. Infact , it was a victory of sorts for him. That night , he went to sleep fully satisfied , that he had finaly done “something right”. The next morning , when he woke up , he was shocked to see the morning newspaper photographs showing hundreds of fisherfolk of Goa , in decorated boats and live music, welcoming and giving a warm sendoff to the Portuguese Ship “N.R.P.Sagres” (The purpose of
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[Goanet] GOA SEZ LAND SCAM NEEDS TO BE PROBED
While the nation is grappling with a string of scams including the 2G, CWG and Adarsh, Goa is not lagging behind with details of the alleged SEZ land scam unraveling. The role of former Chief Minster Pratapsingh Rane and others in this multi crore scam needs to be thoroughly probed. So also the person who was operating as the defacto Chief Minister during Rane’s last few years in office must also come under the scanner. Politicians are known never to do anything for free. On 21st December 2006 the then Chief Minister Mr. Pratapsing Rane wrote to the then Union Commerce Minister Kamal Nath that he would be grateful if the applications of seven SEZ’s to be set up in Goa are considered favorably. An investigation by the CBI (Congress Bureau of investigation) into the alleged SEZ land scam may not reveal much unless it is monitored by the High Court. Only a judicial probe headed by a High Court Judge will meet the ends of justice. But like A. Raja, Ashok Chavan and Suresh Kalmadi, Mr. Pratapsingh Rane should quit as Speaker of the Goa assembly so that the probe brings out the truth. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] SMILE...................... IT'S WEEKEND (02/12/2010)
IT WAS A... Jacky and Vicky were very thick friends, they got tired with the mobile communication. They decide to use the conventional method of communication. That is to use pigeons to send messages. By doing that they were happy for quite a long time. One fine day Vicky sends his pigeon, when the pigeon reached to Jacky, it was without any message. Angrily, Jacky picks up his mobile and calls:- Vicky: Hello! Jacky: What is this, a joke? Vicky: What happened Jacky? Jacky: The pigeon is without any message. Vicky: Oh., ha.ha..he...he. Jacky: Now, what makes you laugh? Vicky: Ar're pixea (You fool) don't you understand? it was a miss call. Cajetan de Sanvordem Kuwait.
[Goanet] Ghosts at Large - A play by The Mustard Seed Art Company
Ghosts at Large A play by The Mustard Seed Art Company Goa. Dec. 2010. Synopsis: A number of people come face to face in an old library. The library is about to be shifted to new modern premises. Books are being packed and carted away. The Librarian is very enthused about her proposed new Goa Section. What starts as a debate between the relative merits of housing books in the original ancient building or the paint-fresh new one, turns out to be an unexpected adventure. The play could be said to be about authors and books, but it can also be read as a query on the construction of identity. Goa, where histories and cultures intersect in intriguing ways, turns out to be the central character of the play. N.B. Though the portraits of the Ghosts are based on historical characters, they are depicted imaginatively. No disrespect is meant to anyone, living or dead. The cast : On this side: Vishnu – Kiran Bhandari Carmita – Nikita Fernandes Gerry – Yulian Pinto Alison – Ameena Bukhari On that side: Salima Hassan (fictitious) – Michelle Noronha Mogubaí Kurdikar – Sonam Bhobe Angelo da Fonseca – Clinton Monteiro Bakibab Borkar – Kiran Kerkar José Gerson da Cunha – Nicholas Nogar Propércia C. Afonso – Lorraine Noronha Emídio Afonso – Sydney Rebello Dharmanand Kosambi – Jonathan Rodrigues Shadow play: Shirish Naik Suraj Chodankar Dale Rodrigues Sonam Bhobe Chorus: Ingrid Noronha Sneha Bhonsle Heckler: Dhruv Usgaonkar Script and direction: Isabel de Santa Rita Vás Keepers of the Seal: Veda Bhandari, Rebecca Coelho, Mario Coelho, Tamsin Pereira, Israiel Sarvishta, Dexter Pereira, Newman Mendonsa, Neville Rodrigues, Santosh Madihalli, Kritika Bhandari, Joann Coelho, Harvey d’Souza, Glen Viegas, Isabel S.R.Vas, Valerie Monteiro, Solano da Silva, Michelle Pinheiro, Nandita and Delano M. Furtado, Gavin Alvares, Luis Dias, Daegal Godinho, Priya d’Souza, Neil Alvares, Avalon Pinto, Daniel Lobo, Alison Lobo, Malcolm Gurjão, Deepraj Bandodkar, Rohan Nazareth, Drupad Gaonkar, Valens Paul. Brochure: Roma Fernandes and Alison Almeida. Sound: Shelton Fernandes Special thanks to : Salesians of Don Bosco H. School, Panjim; K. Sekhar, MILROC; Mrs. Deepti Salgaonkar; Sunaparanta; St. Xavier’s College, Mapusa; Dr. Fatima Gracias; Kala Academy, Panaji. DATES AND VENUE: 1. 4th Dec (Sat) Sunaparanta 6.30 to 8.30 pm. 2. 5th Dec (Sun) St.Xavier's College 6.30 to 8.30 pm. 3. 6th Dec (Mon) Black Box, Kala Academy. 6.30 to 8.30 pm. Donation Passes available on the spot at venue and at Magsons Supermarket, Miramar.
[Goanet] Trivialising a debate? Was: Re: Goa Inquisition
Gilbert definitely isn't saying there was no Inquisition. He's questioning the manner in which the Inquisition has been written about over the years, then and now, and by whom. Like him, I see a Black Legend being created and sustained about the Inquisition in Goa too. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_legend] While the Inquisition was harsh and medieval in its times (as harsh as any other form of religious, political or ideological excesses of the 16th or 17th centuries or later, many of which go otherwise uncommented on), the Inquisition has come to play a very political role in the 20th and 21st centuries specially. There are also signs of it having been given a political spin in earlier centuries, but those were for different reasons, more to do with inter-colonial rivalry and less pressing to us in contemporary Goa. The debates about the Goa Inquisition today have little to do with the past, and more to do with the present, including contemporary communalism. It's hard not to reach this conclusion, George's attempts at trivialising the debate nonetheless. FN PS: I think David Higgs in Canada is making some very interesting points about the Inquisition in Goa. How did it compare to other brutalities of the time? How was it projected? What were the interests of those writing about it? Why is it that a handful of -- probably not wholly disinterested -- authors get quoted all the time? Also see http://www.speroforum.com/a/19896/The-Inquisition-in-India-and-its-critics Economic and Political Weekly Twisting the Tale – Goa's Anti-Colonial. Stir Retold http://www.mail-archive.com/goa...@goanet.org/msg20414.html Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 2 December 2010 01:25, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote: Gilbert is right, there was no Goa inquisition. Please do not shoot the messenger (moi) for pointing this out but Gilbert is correct to imply the Portuguese were the first native inhabitants of Goa and Goan Hindus invaded the place. The first thing they did was build temples on existing churches. Subsequently, Catholics architecturally modified the temples by constructing churches over temples but this was purely for aesthetic reasons. I mean, who can be against a little aesthetic change, like the Afghan Taliban did to Buddhist statues a few years ago. The only incident we have on record regarding the Goa Inquisition is one Catholic stole some milk sometime between Oct 4 to Oct 14, 1582 but Pope Gregory XIII changed the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar to remove those 10 days and wipe out the Goa inquisition. Of course atheist medical doctors paid by BIG Pharma drug companies have said that the Pope changed the calendar to bring it back in line with the solstices. We know how deceptive scientists can be, especially when some blamed Catholics for irregularities in the Vatican Bank about 35 years ago, when everyone knows that Parsis, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, atheists, agnostics, and Martians were responsible. Can you imagine blaming Catholics for the Vatican Bank troubles! I hope everyone thanks Gilbert for his defense of Catholics.
