[appengine-java] Re: Set the Timezone

2009-12-25 Thread George Moschovitis
  Is there a way to set the timezone for my application?

 TimeZone.setDefault(TimeZone.getTimeZone(GMT-8:00));

Have you actually *tested* this on App Engine?
This should be inserted in the servlet initialization code?

thank you,
-g.



 If you use JSTL, try the following setup in web.xml:
 context-param
     param-namejavax.servlet.jsp.jstl.fmt.timeZone/param-name
     param-valueGMT-8:00/param-value
 /context-param

 You can change GMT-8:00 as you want.

 Hope this helps,

 Yasuo Higa

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Set the Timezone

2009-12-25 Thread Yasuo Higa
Hi George,

  Is there a way to set the timezone for my application?

 TimeZone.setDefault(TimeZone.getTimeZone(GMT-8:00));

 Have you actually *tested* this on App Engine?

Yes.

 This should be inserted in the servlet initialization code?

You can insert the code when the servlet initializes as follows:
@Override
public void init() throws ServletException {
TimeZone.setDefault(TimeZone.getTimeZone(GMT-8:00));
}

When I reply something, I always try it.

Hope this helps,

Yasuo Higa

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[appengine-java] Data Nucleus Enhancer Exception

2009-12-25 Thread Vik
Hie

While trying to do executeQuery  i get the follow exception:

SEVERE: Exception is :Persistent class Class
vik.sakshum.sakshumweb.server.model.jdo.Subscribe does not seem to have been
enhanced.  You may want to rerun the enhancer and check for errors in the
output. has no table in the database, but the operation requires it. Please
check the specification of the MetaData for this class.
javax.jdo.JDOUserException: Persistent class Class
vik.sakshum.sakshumweb.server.model.jdo.Subscribe does not seem to have been
enhanced.  You may want to rerun the enhancer and check for errors in the
output. has no table in the database, but the operation requires it. Please
check the specification of the MetaData for this class.
 at
org.datanucleus.jdo.NucleusJDOHelper.getJDOExceptionForNucleusException(NucleusJDOHelper.java:375)
at org.datanucleus.jdo.JDOQuery.execute(JDOQuery.java:230)
 at
vik.sakshum.sakshumweb.server.model.DoSubscribe.execute(DoSubscribe.java:35)
at
vik.sakshum.sakshumweb.server.SubscribeModule$1$2.buttonClick(SubscribeModule.java:119)
 at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
 at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
 at
com.google.appengine.tools.development.agent.runtime.Runtime.invoke(Runtime.java:100)
at com.vaadin.event.ListenerMethod.receiveEvent(ListenerMethod.java:487)
 at com.vaadin.event.EventRouter.fireEvent(EventRouter.java:161)
at com.vaadin.ui.AbstractComponent.fireEvent(AbstractComponent.java:1105)
 at com.vaadin.ui.Button.fireClick(Button.java:341)
at com.vaadin.ui.Button.changeVariables(Button.java:177)
 at
com.vaadin.terminal.gwt.server.AbstractCommunicationManager.handleVariables(AbstractCommunicationManager.java:1058)
at
com.vaadin.terminal.gwt.server.AbstractCommunicationManager.doHandleUidlRequest(AbstractCommunicationManager.java:559)
 at
com.vaadin.terminal.gwt.server.CommunicationManager.handleUidlRequest(CommunicationManager.java:260)
at
com.vaadin.terminal.gwt.server.AbstractApplicationServlet.service(AbstractApplicationServlet.java:438)
 at
com.vaadin.terminal.gwt.server.GAEApplicationServlet.service(GAEApplicationServlet.java:231)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:806)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:487)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1093)
 at
com.google.appengine.api.blobstore.dev.ServeBlobFilter.doFilter(ServeBlobFilter.java:51)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1084)
 at
com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.TransactionCleanupFilter.doFilter(TransactionCleanupFilter.java:43)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1084)
 at
com.google.appengine.tools.development.StaticFileFilter.doFilter(StaticFileFilter.java:121)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1084)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:360)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:216)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:181)
at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:712)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:405)
at
com.google.apphosting.utils.jetty.DevAppEngineWebAppContext.handle(DevAppEngineWebAppContext.java:70)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:139)
at
com.google.appengine.tools.development.JettyContainerService$ApiProxyHandler.handle(JettyContainerService.java:352)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:139)
at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:313)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:506)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.content(HttpConnection.java:844)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:644)
at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:211)
 at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:381)
at
org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.run(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:396)
 at
org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(BoundedThreadPool.java:442)
NestedThrowablesStackTrace:
Persistent class Class vik.sakshum.sakshumweb.server.model.jdo.Subscribe
does not seem to have been enhanced.  You may want to rerun the enhancer and
check for errors in the output. has no table in the database, but the
operation requires it. Please check the specification of the MetaData for
this class.
org.datanucleus.store.exceptions.NoTableManagedException: Persistent class
Class vik.sakshum.sakshumweb.server.model.jdo.Subscribe does not seem to
have been enhanced.  You may want to rerun the enhancer and check 

[appengine-java] Re: blobstore lucene search index

2009-12-25 Thread Toby
Hallo Jacek,

Thank you for your mail. Can you give a bit more details about that
search engine that you implemented?
I would like to use lucene because I like to use their analyzers and
things like levenshtein distance result ordering etc.
Currently I use the compass-lucen framework that comes with a special
adapter to store the index in the datastore:
http://www.kimchy.org/searchable-google-appengine-with-compass/
I wonder if now the blob-store could be a better way to achieve the
same goal.

Cheers,
Tobi


On Dec 23, 3:18 pm, jacek.ambroziak jacek.ambroz...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I have been using a search engine of my own design.
 I had first to adapt it to GAE by generalizing the index
 storage mechanism so that it can be *implemented*
 using files (originally the only way) or with Datastore.
 It was a good couple of days of work but it is not hard.

 On Dec 22, 6:33 pm, Toby tobias.ro...@sunnymail.mobi wrote:

  Hello,

  I think a sophisticated search api is what a lot of us are missing. I
  use currently the compass-lucene project but I am not completely
  satisfied with the performance. I think there is also the GAELucene
  project that uses a similar aproach.
  I guess the main issue was so far that you could not write the index
  files to a regular file system. I wonder if the new blob-store API
  could solve that issue and if anyone has done some experimentation
  with it.

  Cheers,
  Tobi



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[appengine-java] Re: GAE roadmap for 2010

2009-12-25 Thread Toby
Hello,

Some visibility on the roadmap would be great. I think in the last
month GAE has already improved a lot. There are quite some open issues
that are often listed against the use of GAE. I believe if we knew
that they will be addressed at some point in time it might help.
Personally I see two major things for my applications:
- improve spin up or keep alive option
- full fledged search
I guess a good MVC framework and better Spring integration would be
great as well.

Cheers,

Tobias

On Dec 25, 5:09 am, Antoine Sabot-durand anto...@sabot-durand.net
wrote:
 As i s'aider in m'y post this doc is not a roadmap : it stops in
 december 2009. Nothing in 2010. Is Thérèse an update on thé way ?

 On 22 déc, 23:23, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote:

  The roadmap that is up right now represents our six month 
  goals:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html

  Beyond that, we do not even have much visibility ourselves into what we are
  going to work on, but as soon as we have set high level objectives, we'll
  communicate them with our developers. This is one of the reasons we ask
  everybody to create and star 
  issues:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list

  On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Muz murray.bo...@gmail.com wrote:
   I second this request for 2010 roadmap visibility.

   I'm especially curious if there will be any definite plan to support
   multi-tenancy on GAE (beyond the current odd workaround/exception
   mechanisms). We have requirements for several of these to get started
   in Q2. Google seems to be the only cloud player to not have a long-
   term model for this yet.

   M

   On 20 Dec, 02:54, Antoine Sabot-durand anto...@sabot-durand.net
   wrote:
Hi,

I found the roadmap for 2009 but is there one for 2010 ? I'd like to
propose my company to start developement on GAE but the lack of
visibility on the platform is an issue. Will you support some of the
JEE6 new standard (JSF 2, CDI, JPA 2, EJB 3.1 ?). Is the imageio issue
with the JSF richfaces library will be corrected ?
I saw a lot of question in the forum but few answer (or wasn't able to
find them).
Thanks for your answers.

Antoine

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[appengine-java] Re: blobstore lucene search index

2009-12-25 Thread jacek.ambroziak
My search engine is a full-text proximity based engine
which you can check out in action in an Android add called NewsDroid.
The indexer part indexes Reuters News semi-continuously
and a user searching on Android will be shown query hits
in matching news where as many keywords as possible
were found together.

This is, btw, an XML search engine -- in addition to keywords
you need to specify in which elements to search for
text passages. I am currently working on another
application of the engine, beyond news.

The original version of the search engine used a number
of files to store indexes. As I ported the system to GAE
I had to figure out ways to store and use indexes
stored as blobs in the Datastore.
Basically, any file can be split into chunks of up to 1,000,000 bytes.

Things work OK, but not great on GAE. Loading indexes
into memory is taking time when servlets are restarted.


On Dec 25, 7:51 am, Toby tobias.ro...@sunnymail.mobi wrote:
 Hallo Jacek,

 Thank you for your mail. Can you give a bit more details about that
 search engine that you implemented?
 I would like to use lucene because I like to use their analyzers and
 things like levenshtein distance result ordering etc.
 Currently I use the compass-lucen framework that comes with a special
 adapter to store the index in the 
 datastore:http://www.kimchy.org/searchable-google-appengine-with-compass/
 I wonder if now the blob-store could be a better way to achieve the
 same goal.

 Cheers,
 Tobi

 On Dec 23, 3:18 pm, jacek.ambroziak jacek.ambroz...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  I have been using a search engine of my own design.
  I had first to adapt it to GAE by generalizing the index
  storage mechanism so that it can be *implemented*
  using files (originally the only way) or with Datastore.
  It was a good couple of days of work but it is not hard.

  On Dec 22, 6:33 pm, Toby tobias.ro...@sunnymail.mobi wrote:

   Hello,

   I think a sophisticated search api is what a lot of us are missing. I
   use currently the compass-lucene project but I am not completely
   satisfied with the performance. I think there is also the GAELucene
   project that uses a similar aproach.
   I guess the main issue was so far that you could not write the index
   files to a regular file system. I wonder if the new blob-store API
   could solve that issue and if anyone has done some experimentation
   with it.

   Cheers,
   Tobi

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[appengine-java] Re: blobstore lucene search index

2009-12-25 Thread jacek.ambroziak
My search engine is a full-text proximity based engine
which you can check out in action in an Android add called NewsDroid.
The indexer part indexes Reuters News semi-continuously
and a user searching on Android will be shown query hits
in matching news where as many keywords as possible
were found together.

This is, btw, an XML search engine -- in addition to keywords
you need to specify in which elements to search for
text passages. I am currently working on another
application of the engine, beyond news.

The original version of the search engine used a number
of files to store indexes. As I ported the system to GAE
I had to figure out ways to store and use indexes
stored as blobs in the Datastore.
Basically, any file can be split into chunks of up to 1,000,000 bytes.

Things work OK, but not great on GAE. Loading indexes
into memory is taking time when servlets are restarted.


On Dec 25, 7:51 am, Toby tobias.ro...@sunnymail.mobi wrote:
 Hallo Jacek,

 Thank you for your mail. Can you give a bit more details about that
 search engine that you implemented?
 I would like to use lucene because I like to use their analyzers and
 things like levenshtein distance result ordering etc.
 Currently I use the compass-lucen framework that comes with a special
 adapter to store the index in the 
 datastore:http://www.kimchy.org/searchable-google-appengine-with-compass/
 I wonder if now the blob-store could be a better way to achieve the
 same goal.

 Cheers,
 Tobi

 On Dec 23, 3:18 pm, jacek.ambroziak jacek.ambroz...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  I have been using a search engine of my own design.
  I had first to adapt it to GAE by generalizing the index
  storage mechanism so that it can be *implemented*
  using files (originally the only way) or with Datastore.
  It was a good couple of days of work but it is not hard.

  On Dec 22, 6:33 pm, Toby tobias.ro...@sunnymail.mobi wrote:

   Hello,

   I think a sophisticated search api is what a lot of us are missing. I
   use currently the compass-lucene project but I am not completely
   satisfied with the performance. I think there is also the GAELucene
   project that uses a similar aproach.
   I guess the main issue was so far that you could not write the index
   files to a regular file system. I wonder if the new blob-store API
   could solve that issue and if anyone has done some experimentation
   with it.

   Cheers,
   Tobi

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[appengine-java] java.util.Timer is in the white list but you can't use it

2009-12-25 Thread Alexander Arendar
Hi ppl,

please explain me. Maybe I'm kinda stupid but we have java.util.Timer
class in the white list.
But actually you can't use this class since GAE forbids threads
instantiation.
Now a simple straightforward question: why the heck the class is in
the whitelist? Just for fun?

Regards,
Alex

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[appengine-java] guestbook problem...

2009-12-25 Thread kamaljeetsingh sandhu
Hi,
I am new to this group and to googleapp also.. i tried it turorial of
Guestbook.. It is running sucessfully in the eclipse rather its output is
not coming .. as i open the localhost but the page is not appearing...Please
help me out 

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[appengine-java] Can we deploy Axis WebServices on Google App Engine

2009-12-25 Thread Bhanu Prakash
Can we deploy Axis webservices on Google App Engine?

I'm getting below exeception when I'm tesing in my developement
environment the URL :

http://localhost:8080/services/Version?wsdl

Sorry, something seems to have gone wrong... here are the details:

Fault - ; nested exception is:
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.io.FilePermission C:\Softwares\jdk1.6.0\jre\lib\wsdl.properties
read)
AxisFault
 faultCode: {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}
Server.userException
 faultSubcode:
 faultString: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.io.FilePermission C:\Softwares\jdk1.6.0\jre\lib\wsdl.properties
read)
 faultActor:
 faultNode:
 faultDetail:
{http://xml.apache.org/axis/}hostname:localhost



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[appengine-java] mail message

2009-12-25 Thread venkat satyanarayana
Hi , i ma tring to send mail  with google app engine with java

my code :

Properties props = new Properties();
Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);

String msgBody = test;

try {
Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
try {
msg.setFrom(new 
InternetAddress(nidadavolu.ven...@gmail.com,
Example.com Admin));
} catch (UnsupportedEncodingException e) {
// TODO Auto-generated catch block
e.printStackTrace();
}
try {
msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,
 new 
InternetAddress(nidadavolu.ven...@gmail.com
, Mr. User));
} catch (UnsupportedEncodingException e) {
// TODO Auto-generated catch block
e.printStackTrace();
}
msg.setSubject(Your Example.com account has been
activated);
msg.setText(msgBody);
Transport.send(msg);

} catch (AddressException e) {
// ...
} catch (MessagingException e) {
// ...
}

but  i didn't get any error , but we are not receaving  mail


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[appengine-java] JDK 1.7 in Google App Engine (GAE)

2009-12-25 Thread limcheekin
Hi,

May I know is there any plan or timeline for GAE to support JDK 1.7?

Thank you.

Chee Kin

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[appengine-java] Re: problem in retrieving arraylist from database

2009-12-25 Thread giri
use this
 @Persistent(defaultFetchGroup=true)
 ArrayListString listval= new ArrayListString();
i guess this ll solve ur problem  try u read about fetchgroup for a
better understanding

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[appengine-java] Eclipse AppEngine Plugin

2009-12-25 Thread Ambiency
I have recently  upgraded eclipse to Galileo. Previously, with
Ganymede, I had no problems running an app locally using the Google
Appengine plugin. I now cannot run Appengine code (run as ...Google
Web App). I get an exception
'javax.xml.parsers.FactoryConfigurationError: Provider
oracle.xml.jaxp.JXDocumentBuilderFactory not found'

I have now also tried running my Ganymede installation and that falls
over during a build with the same message.

Could this be related to the Eclipse upgrade?

Regards

Kevin

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[appengine-java] Clear particular session manually

2009-12-25 Thread David
I need to clear a session manually from a servlet which has only the
id of the session which needs to be cleared (long story short this is
to overcome some limitation with flash not supporting cookies).

I need to delete both the session from datastore and memcache.

How can this be done ? (is the name of the entity in _ah_session table
the id of the session ? )
What is the key of the particular session for memcache ? can it be
derived from the session id ?

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[appengine-java] Re: mail message

2009-12-25 Thread m seleron
Hi,
I tested the source code that you had contributed.
It seems to operate normally.

I think that the setting or the environment in the mail address is a
cause.

Follow this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/fdfdafa51ef140fc/97d7c0492c2270bb?lnk=gstq=seleronm#97d7c0492c2270bb

Please Try.
thanks.


On 12月24日, 午後4:34, venkat satyanarayana nidadavolu.ven...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi , i ma tring to send mail  with google app engine with java

 my code :

 Properties props = new Properties();
         Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);

         String msgBody = test;

         try {
             Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
             try {
                                 msg.setFrom(new 
 InternetAddress(nidadavolu.ven...@gmail.com,
 Example.com Admin));
                         } catch (UnsupportedEncodingException e) {
                                 // TODO Auto-generated catch block
                                 e.printStackTrace();
                         }
             try {
                                 msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,
                                                  new 
 InternetAddress(nidadavolu.ven...@gmail.com
 , Mr. User));
                         } catch (UnsupportedEncodingException e) {
                                 // TODO Auto-generated catch block
                                 e.printStackTrace();
                         }
             msg.setSubject(Your Example.com account has been
 activated);
             msg.setText(msgBody);
             Transport.send(msg);

         } catch (AddressException e) {
             // ...
         } catch (MessagingException e) {
             // ...
         }

 but  i didn't get any error , but we are not receaving  mail

 thanks

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Re: [appengine-java] Relational Table using JDO

2009-12-25 Thread Michael Chan
You can do some sort of relational mappings between entities but not to the
full extend like RDBMS.

Have you worked through the examples in
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/datastore/ yet?



On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:36 PM, TiagoP pix...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a simple doubt that I would like to see explained.

 I know a bit of relational databases but I don't understand how I can
 do the same using JDO.

 As for example, I have a table users-plans which combines the table
 user to the table plans. In table plans I have all the plans and I
 just match it to the user in a middle table.

 Could someone explain how this would work in GAE?

 Thanks and Merry Christmas!



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Re: [google-appengine] Cron jobs fail with error Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your request.

2009-12-25 Thread Abhinav Bhagwat
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[google-appengine] Re: cannot import name signals

2009-12-25 Thread Sander D
Same problem here: I use Django 1.0 and randomly get 500 errors
mentioning cannot import name signals in the logs.

On Dec 2, 11:46 pm, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote:
 I'm getting lots of these suddenly. I had them a few months ago too,
 but didn't see them in a while. I use the appengine django 1.0.

 Anyone else having this too?

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[google-appengine] No source code is available for type...;

2009-12-25 Thread Timofey Danshin
Hi.
As i have previously mentioned, i am a noob at GAE and GWT. Here is the
thing.

I had some training project, in which i wrote a composite widget i quite
like. Then i created a project that i intend to turn into something
meaningful, in which i wanted to use that composite widget, so in Eclipse i
dragged the package with that widget from the first project to the second
one, changed the package declarations in its classes to reflect its new
location, and tried to initialize that widget in that new project the same
way i did (or so it seems) in the trial project. And i did import that
widget's package. However, when i try to compile the new project, the
compilation fails, and i get the following error message:

  [ERROR] Errors in
'file:/Users/dtv/Documents/workspace/c-bay/src/ur/g05/smc/client/NewPageForm.java'

 [ERROR] Line 40: No source code is available for type
ur.g05.smc.widgets.RichTextAreaWithFormatPanel; did you forget to inherit a
required module?

Again, the class declaration does exist in that package. And i can almost
swear there were no .xml files relating to the RichTextAreaWithFormatPanel
in the first project. In other words, it seems that everything is the same,
but it doesn't work.

Is there something i miss? Thank you in advance
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[google-appengine] Re: 188MB entities, 1GB data used?

2009-12-25 Thread chemo...@gmail.com
Hi, second try :-).
My records with text fields now converted.

Total Stored Data94% 0.94 of 1.00 GBytesLimited

Last updatedTotal number of entitiesSize of all entities
1:59:47 ago 187,428  93 MBytes
Property Type   Size
Integer  35 MBytes
Date/Time16 MBytes
String   18 KBytes
Metadata 42 MBytes

and only 6 indexes.
Entity and Indexes  Status
MarketHistoryBuy
typeID ▲ , solarSystemID ▲ , date ▼   Serving
MarketHistorySell
typeID ▲ , solarSystemID ▲ , date ▼   Serving
MarketStatsBuy
solarSystemID ▲ , typeID ▲ Serving
typeID ▲ , solarSystemID ▲ Serving
MarketStatsSell
solarSystemID ▲ , typeID ▲  Serving
typeID ▲ , solarSystemID ▲ Serving

I can delete it all, if it can help.
Please help.


On 23 дек, 12:35, chemo...@gmail.com chemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 I have the same issue.
 Fromstatistic:
 Last updated    Total number of entities        Size of all entities
 3:56:43 ago     140,994                         260 MBytes
 But inquote:
 Total Stored Data                96%     0.96 of 1.00 GBytes

 In cron I move data (with deletion) from table with text fields,
 sorted by key (no special and witout indexes) to 4 tables with
 smollest size of the data.
 Source table:
 Total Number of Mail Entities:  Average Size of Entity:
 436                                             411 KBytes
 Property        Type         Size
 body            Text             175 MBytes (100% of the entity)
 date             String  21 KBytes (0% of the entity)
 sender   String  20 KBytes (0% of the entity)
 subject  String  15 KBytes (0% of the entity)
 added_on         Date/Time       11 KBytes (0% of the entity)
 Metadata                          26 KBytes (0% of the entity)

 Result tables:
 Total Number of MarketHistoryBuy Entities:      Average Size of Entity:
 34,578                                                   699 Bytes

 Total Number of MarketHistorySell Entities:     Average Size of Entity:
 43,494                                                  706 Bytes

 Total Number of MarketStatsBuy Entities:        Average Size of Entity:
 27,028                                                  543 Bytes

 Total Number of MarketStatsSell Entities:       Average Size of Entity:
 35,205                                                  549 Bytes

 inserted and searched by key

 Total indexes:
 Entity and Indexes                      Status
 MarketStatsBuy
 solarSystemID ▲ , typeID ▲  Serving
 typeID ▲ , solarSystemID ▲  Serving
 MarketStatsSell
 solarSystemID ▲ , typeID ▲  Serving
 typeID ▲ , solarSystemID ▲  Serving
 (I've deleted all other indexes hour or two earlyer.

 Data amount instatisticdecreased day to day, but inquote-
 increased.

 On 16 дек, 14:15, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com
 wrote:





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[google-appengine] API cost measurements for simple transactions

2009-12-25 Thread kor
Recently I profiled App Engine Data Store Operations with AppWrench
Java Console.

Results was very repeatable and it inspired me to build simple
empirical math model for calculating API cost of data store
operations.

According to my measurements the cost of basic operations is
following:

Get: costs 10 API megacycles per entity and this cost does not depends
from entity size.

Query: costs 11-13 API megacycles per entity and this cost nearly does
not depends from result set size. (there is small cost(~20) when query
returns now results.

Put: costs 48 API megacycles - per entity if transaction is started
(does not depends from entity size). If transaction is not used then
you should add cost of 'Commit' to cost of 'Put' to get right value.

Commit: costs 48 API megacycles - per changed or created entity +
(20-40 megacycles for each changed indexed property value). I am
planning to research this more but rough estimation is that formula
for commit costs is: 48*n +f(n)*20*k*n where n is number of changed or
created entities and k is a number of changed indexed properties. Each
value in list property is threaded as separate changed indexed
property value.

Delete: 0 API megacycles per entity (in other words delete is free)

So my initial rough conclusions are:

* API cost is ~ entity count
* API cost does not depends from entity size
* API cost of storing data is ~number of changed indexed property
values.
* Deleting entities is free

Does any body else tried to measure/analyze cost of data store
operations?
Is there any official guide to predicting/estimating API cost, for
particulate queries?

Thanks in advance,
Pavel

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[google-appengine] Re: Integrating websockets with appengine applications

2009-12-25 Thread Backpack
It is a very interesting concept. You could set up a public server for
people to connect alert bots from app engine to client apps so we
don't have to do the plumbing. Just send a signal from app engine to
the proxy and then relaying it to the client.

From GAE/myapp call yourproxy.com/myalertbot

yourproxy broadcasts a signal to every client listening to myalertbot

every client listening to ws:yourproxy.com can now go to GAE/myapp to
get more data

For example, say I publish a new entry on my GAE/blog, it then sends a
signal to your public proxy which relays it to every client so they
can come get the entry.

Just a thought while we get websockets support in GAE


On Dec 24, 10:07 am, Takashi Matsuo matsuo.taka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Let me share my trial implementation with 
 you.http://takashi-matsuo.blogspot.com/2009/12/integrating-websockets-wit...

 Recently, not quite a few people asked about how to use websockets on
 appengine. IMHO, current appengine itself is not so suitable for
 those architecture(pseudo server push) because of its 30 seconds
 request limit. So, I tried it with an external websockets server.

 Could anyone tell me what do you think?

 TIA

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[google-appengine] Am I doing this right? ( with webapp )

2009-12-25 Thread fooyee
Hi all, am wondering if I'm doing this right.

I want to split a huge py file into ten parts ( or controllers, if you
will). The reason being it's neat, each part will serve a certain
function. But I worry if I am taxing the app engine server bcos the
imports in each part are repetitive.

*app.yaml*
handlers:
- url: /part1
  script: controllers/part1.py
- url: /part2
  script: controllers/part2.py

# this goes on until part10.py


*part1py (this is the entry point of the application)*

# all required imports ( about 20 imports, some from app engine, some
from external libs )

class Part1(webapp.RequestHandler):

  # a lot of code here

  # point to template
  path = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), 'templates/
part1.html')

  template_values = { 'variable ':variable }

  # render template
  self.response.out.write(template.render(path, template_values))

# the standard WSGI calls
application = webapp.WSGIApplication([('/part1', Part1)],debug=True)
def main(): run_wsgi_app(application)
if __name__ == __main__: main()

***

for part2.py until part10.py, it follows the exact same format as
part1.py. It's been working for me.

so the question is, can I keep doing this as my application grows ( as
I add more code/functionality) ? Is this the way to expand all the way
up to N numbers of .py files? What are the drawbacks?


Hope you guys can give some insights on this.
Been thinking about this for weeks.

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[google-appengine] use the same database in two appengine projects

2009-12-25 Thread surfeurX
Hi all,

i created an app under appengine and i want to create his iphone
version under another domain ... how i could use the same database in
two differents appengine projects.

any idea???

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[google-appengine] Re: Trouble creating an application

2009-12-25 Thread ad...@galenanalytics.com
Hi Steve, how did you resolve it? I'm using a google apps account as
well and I can't see any of the applications that I create. I keep
getting sent back to the create an application screen.

Thx!

On Dec 15, 10:51 am, Steve S. st...@downmix.com wrote:
 Problem resolved: The apps were created in my Google Apps account. I
 wish the sign-up page would have told me this, though!

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[google-appengine] php with java document root

2009-12-25 Thread Robert Duchnik
I just setup an appengine app using the quercus php with java.  Got
that all working fine, however I wanted to change the document root
that my web files get served out of.  Currently everything is being
served out of the war folder, but I want to have it serve out of
something like war/htdocs instead and have htdocs recognized as my
document root, particularly whats stored in $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']
for php.

Using urlrewrites I was able to achieve this properly on the surface,
however I wanted to get this working on the system level and not just
with a bunch of rewrites.

So right now on a local environment setup with apache I have the
document root set to htdocs and I get something like this for the
$_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']:

D:/vidu/work/www.myexample.com/war/coco/htdocs

On the app engine I get just the predefined base directory:

/base/data/home/apps/myexample/1.338700727520182893/

So I would like to have it like this instead

/base/data/home/apps/myexample/1.338700727520182893/coco/htdocs/

Rob

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[google-appengine] retrieving data via key in java

2009-12-25 Thread giridhar kannan
hi all,
i would like to know how to use the query

b select __key__ from Class-Name /b in java .
 The same syntax is not working, it shows the following
b PrimaryExpression should be a VariableExpression with name
__key__ /b
Please do help me.

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[google-appengine] how to make SetKey persistent?

2009-12-25 Thread ailinykh
Hello, everybody!
I try to achieve simple thing - storing a set of keys.
I have two classes:

@PersistenceCapable(identityType = IdentityType.APPLICATION)
public class Account {

@PrimaryKey
@Persistent(valueStrategy = IdGeneratorStrategy.IDENTITY)
private Key id;

   @Persistent(mappedBy=account)
ListLabel labels = new ArrayListLabel();

@Persistent
SetKey ids = new HashSetKey();
}

@PersistenceCapable(identityType = IdentityType.APPLICATION)
public class Label {
@PrimaryKey
@Persistent(valueStrategy = IdGeneratorStrategy.IDENTITY)
private Key id;

 @Persistent
 private Account account;
}

I created new Account

Account a = new Account();
then added two Labels to Account, then added Label's keys to ids set.
As result I have for ids:
[Account(1)/Label(4), Account(1)/Label(3)]

which looks correct.

Then I called
pm.makePersistent(a),
pm.close();

I created new instance of PersistenceManager and restore Account
object.
I get back two Labels, but their keys (ids set) is empty.
What did I do wrong?

Thank you,
  Andrey






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[google-appengine] Re: when will gae go beyond from being a toy?

2009-12-25 Thread niklasro.appspot.com
On Dec 25, 7:16 am, ajaxer calid...@gmail.com wrote:
 1. friendly and useful data import and export tools
 2. limited offset to a fairly acceptable and almostly unlimited offset
 3. add, pending or remove cron jobs from control panel
 4. naked domain name binding, having no relevance with google apps or
 google sites.
 5. unique ip address.
 6. abilities of server streaming
 7. raw api of socket, PIL, etc.
 8. build in session support.
 etc..
Mysql too you called a toy. Know your history now.

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[google-appengine] Re: Comets on Google App Engine

2009-12-25 Thread niklasro.appspot.com
On Dec 23, 7:58 am, Ankur (iVEC) ankurshard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it possible to use Comets on Google App Engine when using Java?

 e.g. using code similar to what is given 
 here:http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/aio.html
DWR and research article ref Joe Walker goes above feasible. Good link
is cometdaily.com

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[google-appengine] Re: can i get a domain 's ip address using appengine?

2009-12-25 Thread niklasro.appspot.com
On Dec 25, 7:03 am, ajaxer calid...@gmail.com wrote:
 inside gae please.
Challenging but really, you don't want it inside gae. You want it
towards the user.

 On 12月25日, 下午2时21分, stackoverflow.com/users/108207/larson



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  more extensive is something like your classic instruction 
  dig:http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_dig.htm

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[google-appengine] Naked domain support - solved?

2009-12-25 Thread Dima U
Hello!

Just a quick note about service that anyone can use to help combat
naked domain trouble.

I made wwwizer.com - it redirects requests from naked domains to the
same with www. prefix.
Saving all paths and stuff.

Of course it is not as good as having naked-domain support built in,
but it is better than clicking though domain registrars interfaces.

There is no signup or anything evil.

Cheers.

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[google-appengine] Re: how to delete a table/entity?

2009-12-25 Thread Andy Freeman
  your method is right but the limit is there what ever methods we use.

There's always going to be a limit for scalable applications -
appengine just exposes it.

 because the offset is limited to 1000.
 i can not sort data by fields in results more than some limited items

Don't sort.  Use indices.  They can handle multiple fields.

Indices are the only way to build scalable applications.


On Dec 24, 9:16 pm, ajaxer calid...@gmail.com wrote:
 your method is right but the limit is there what ever methods we use.

 and you didn't get what i mean.

 because the offset is limited to 1000.
 i can not sort data by fields in results more than some limited items

 with out the offset limit, we can do it easily.

 On 12月24日, 上午2时10分, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:



  Any application requires fetching an unbounded amount of data for a
  single page view is not scalable, no matter what technology you use to
  build it, so this problem is not appengine specific.

  If you need aggregations (average, median, total, etc), you have to
  compute them incrementally or with an off-line process.

   when even with the datetime = you still get a big set, how you can
   handle it?

  We're talking about paging through a dataset, presenting n (for small
  n) elements at a time to a user.

  If we're paging through by the value of field with distinct values and
  we want to present 20 results per page, the query for the first page
  is order by field with limit 20.  That query has a last result.
  The query for the next page is field  {last result's field value}
  order by field, again with limit 20.  That query also has a last
  result so the form of subsequent queries should be obvious.  (If
  you've got other conditions, such as user id or key, you need to add
  those as well.)

  Suppose that entities can have the same field value.  If you don't
  care how those entities are ordered, the first query's order by clause
  can be order by field, __key__, again limit 20.  The next query
  tries to pick up entities with the same field as the last result from
  the previous query.  It looks like field = {last result's field's
  value} and __key__  {last result's key} order by __key__ and you
  keep using it until it fails.  You then use a query like the next
  page query from the previous case.  (I stopped mentioning limit
  because the value depends on what you need to fill the current page.)

  On Dec 22, 8:50 pm, ajaxer calid...@gmail.com wrote:

   when even with the datetime = you still get a big set, how you can
   handle it?
   for example you get 1 item with the most specific filtering sql.
   and on this filtering sql, you should have a statistic info. like how
   many item it is .

   how do you expect the appengine to handle this problem?
   how about at one request with many these actions?

   On Dec 21, 11:09 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:

What statistics are you talking about?

You're claiming that one can't page through an entity type without
fetching all instances and sorting them.  That claim is wrong because
the order by constraint does exactly that.

For example, suppose that you want to page through by a date/time
field named datetime.  The query for the first page uses order by
datetime while queries for subsequent pages have a datetime =
clause for the last datetime value from the previous page and continue
to order by datetime.

What part of that do you think doesn't work?

Do you think that Nick was wrong when he said that time time to
execute such query depends on the number of entities?

You can even do random access by using markers that are added/
maintained by a sequential process like the above.

On Dec 20, 7:34 pm, ajaxer calid...@gmail.com wrote:

 You misunderstand.
 if not show me a site with statistics on many fields.
 with more than 1000 pages please.
 thanks.

 On Dec 21, 9:06 am, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:

  You misunderstand.

  If you have an ordering based on one or more indexed properties, you
  can page efficiently wrt that ordering, regardless of the number of
  data items.  (For the purposes of this discussion, __key__ is an
  indexed property, but you don't have to use it or can use it just to
  break ties.)

  If you're fetching a large number of items and sorting so you can 
  find
  a contiguous subset, you're doing it wrong.

  On Dec 19, 10:26 pm, ajaxer calid...@gmail.com wrote:

   obviously, if you have to page a data set more than 5 items 
   which
   is not ordered by __key__,

   you may find that the __key__  is of no use, because the filtered 
   data
   is ordered not by key.
   but by the fields value, and for that reason you need to loop 
   query as
   you may like to do.

   but you will encounter a timeout exception before you really 
   finished