[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread Ian Marshall
Hello Prateek,

Take a look at:

  
http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.html#The_Development_Console

I seem to remember that one can delete persistence entities using this
tool, but my memory could be at fault.

Regards,

Ian

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[appengine-java] JDO - simple update example

2010-06-23 Thread Ed
Datastore Group:

I am spending way too much time trying to figure out how to perform a
'simple' update.  I'm following the docs but nothing is working.  When
I get a no-record-found error I have to restart the appserver just
to continue viewing the data using '_ah/admin'--which is _very_
disappointing.  First of all, why is fist class error thrown when a
query doesn't return a record?  Second, why does a 'no-record-found-
error' hang the entire server forcing a restart. Third, and most
importantly, why is it not obvious how to perform a simple update of a
single record?  I'm using system generated keys, I can see the key
value in the '_ah/admin' viewer, but I run into problems when I try to
query the object/record using the system generated key value.  I'm
trying to use  getObjectById(class-name.class, key-value); is
this not the sanctioned method?  It would be extremely appreciated if
the documentation included a simple insert, update, select, delete
example that everyone could copy and paste for immediate satisfaction
instead of the deeper theoretical (and somewhat roundabout) form
taken.  I understand the documentation follows Datanucleus OEM
product, but seriously, the appEngine docs should speak to this issue
with greater brevity.  I'm willing to do a write-up and post back to
the list if someone can help me get started with basic CRUD.

I feel it is a reasonable expectation that simple CRUD operations
should CLEARLY be spelled out in the documentation available for
'quick' copy and paste.instant satisfaction.

Also, a no-record-found error should not be an error, and it surely
should not force a restart.  I must be doing something wrong, I hope
so, because I cannot imagine anyone working this way.

Can somebody please steer me in the right directionany help would
be greatly appreciated.

-
ed

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Re: [appengine-java] BD in Appgoogle

2010-06-23 Thread Pieter Coucke
I think you need http://localhost:/_ah/admin



On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:10 AM, lisandrodc lisandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a doubt for use the bd. Some way exists for view the
 local_db(without dates binaries).
 Regards
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[appengine-java] Re: HttpClient is not supported?

2010-06-23 Thread Sergio Lopes
Hi

I'm using HttpClient on AppEngine using a simple hack found here:
http://esxx.blogspot.com/2009/06/using-apaches-httpclient-on-google-app.html

It's basically a connection provider to HttpClient using Google's
URLFetch service. This way you can still use the beloved HttpClient
and (almost) all its power

Sérgio
http://www.caelum.com.br

On 22 jun, 13:36, Lu chenglu.annal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to use HttpClient to extract the urls. It works in normal
 java application but not under the context of web application.

 HttpClient client = new HttpClient();
 GetMethod method = new GetMethod(url);

 I will get error says 'java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java.net.Socket
 is a restricted class. Please see the Google  App Engine developer's
 guide for more details'

 Does that mean it conflicts with google app engine?

 Thanks

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Re: [appengine-java] JDO - simple update example

2010-06-23 Thread Hariharan Anantharaman
Hi ed,
Hope you have taken care of txn management mentioned in the docs as well. If
u can send dto and the code used to insert or get, that would be great.

Atleast for a beginers perspective, I found the documentation in gae
sufficient for my needs.

~hari

On Jun 23, 2010 12:17 PM, Ed edwilson...@gmail.com wrote:

Datastore Group:

I am spending way too much time trying to figure out how to perform a
'simple' update.  I'm following the docs but nothing is working.  When
I get a no-record-found error I have to restart the appserver just
to continue viewing the data using '_ah/admin'--which is _very_
disappointing.  First of all, why is fist class error thrown when a
query doesn't return a record?  Second, why does a 'no-record-found-
error' hang the entire server forcing a restart. Third, and most
importantly, why is it not obvious how to perform a simple update of a
single record?  I'm using system generated keys, I can see the key
value in the '_ah/admin' viewer, but I run into problems when I try to
query the object/record using the system generated key value.  I'm
trying to use  getObjectById(class-name.class, key-value); is
this not the sanctioned method?  It would be extremely appreciated if
the documentation included a simple insert, update, select, delete
example that everyone could copy and paste for immediate satisfaction
instead of the deeper theoretical (and somewhat roundabout) form
taken.  I understand the documentation follows Datanucleus OEM
product, but seriously, the appEngine docs should speak to this issue
with greater brevity.  I'm willing to do a write-up and post back to
the list if someone can help me get started with basic CRUD.

I feel it is a reasonable expectation that simple CRUD operations
should CLEARLY be spelled out in the documentation available for
'quick' copy and paste.instant satisfaction.

Also, a no-record-found error should not be an error, and it surely
should not force a restart.  I must be doing something wrong, I hope
so, because I cannot imagine anyone working this way.

Can somebody please steer me in the right directionany help would
be greatly appreciated.

-
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[appengine-java] Re: Administration Console Custom Pages

2010-06-23 Thread l.denardo
I think you're missing the security constraint on the page in web.xml

security-constraint
web-resource-collection
url-pattern/adminboard/url-pattern
/web-resource-collection
auth-constraint
role-nameadmin/role-name
/auth-constraint
/security-constraint

Custom console pages are, for what I understand, nothing more than a
handy way to access your administrator-only pages from the admin
console, instead of manually browsing to them.

Regards
Lorenzo

On Jun 22, 4:05 pm, WillNa kan...@chez.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to add an admin page to the admin console, 
 followinghttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/appconfig.html#Admi...

 Unfortunatly, whatever I try, nothing more is visible on /_ah/admin

 This is what I added to my appengine-web
 admin-console
         page name=Create a board url=/adminboard /
 /admin-console

 and what I added to web.xml
 servlet
         servlet-nameadminboard/servlet-name
         jsp-file/admin_board.jsp/jsp-file
   /servlet

 servlet-mapping
         servlet-nameadminboard/servlet-name
         url-pattern/adminboard/url-pattern
 /servlet-mapping

 Am I missing something ?!

 Thanks for any hint

 William

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Re: [appengine-java] junit and local_db.bin

2010-06-23 Thread Andrés Cerezo
Hi Rommel with the method listAllDomain I can see the data, there should be
a problem with http://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore perhaps a user roll
or something similar (in JUNIT or loggin with
http://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore ?

Thanks.

2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 Yup, for sure.

 Let's suppose you have an entity called domain which has the following
 attributes:

 1. Key
 2. Name

 public void listAllDomain(){
 List Domain results;
 Query query=factory.newQuery(Domain.class);
 try{
 results=(ListDomain) query.execute();
 if(results.iterator().hasNext()){
 for(int k=0;kresults.size();k++){
 Domain dumb=results.get(k);
 System.out.println(Key:
 \t+String.valueOf(dumb.getKey()).toString());
 System.out.println(Domain
 Name:\t+dumb.getDomainName());
 }
 }
 else System.out.println(no results exist);
 }
 finally{query.closeAll();}
 }

 Where Domain.clas is the class type for your entity called Domain.
 besides, in the query object you can set filters for your query.

 this method will show the data in your data Store.

 As I can see, if the local_db.bin is getting bigger each time JUnit is ran,
 then the data must be there, so with this method you should be able to see
 all the data stored in your Data Store. you have just replace all Domain
 references for your Entity's.

 Hope this is was helpful.

 Rgds.

 R

 2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 No, perhaps have yout got an example?


 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 have you tried to retrieve the data from your app, I mean, not using the
 http/_ah/admin console but using your own application, a class written
 in java to show the data, does it work??

 2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 I think so, When I executed all is right, however I don't execute
 teardown method because If I executed this the data are deleted. 
 Alsoeverytime I executed JUNIT the local_db.bin file is bigger than the 
 last
 time so It has the data.


 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 is your JUnit well configured??

 2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

  But I can see the data created with the servlets with
 http://localhost:/_ah/admin, but not when I the data are created
 with junit.

 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 Hi Acerezo

 remember the Data stored in dataStore is schemaless so, as far as I
 know, only GAE knows how to deal with it.

 When I want to see the data from the dataStore I use the classes
 written in java in order to manage the data in Data Store.
 in the other hand, you can use Restlets running on your app in order
 to manage your data when deployed in GAE.

 Rgds.

 Ronmell

 2010/6/22 Acerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 Hello all,

 I have been running my server locally with JUNIT all is ok but when
  I
 want to see the data of the local_db.bin file from localhost:  I
 don´t see the data (entities, etc) Anyone can help me, please?

 Thanks.

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[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread Prateek
Thanks Ian.

I guess that should solve my problem.

Regards
Prateek

On Jun 23, 11:30 am, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Prateek,

 Take a look at:

  http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.ht...

 I seem to remember that one can delete persistence entities using this
 tool, but my memory could be at fault.

 Regards,

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[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread Ian Marshall
You're welcome.

Of course, if you do not want to view your locally-persisted entities
and just want to delete them all, just follow the instructions give
at:

  
http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.html#Using_the_Datastore

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[appengine-java] Servlet filter does not work POST

2010-06-23 Thread Mouseclicker
HI,

is there any reason (or known issue) that a configured servlet filter
is only called for GET requests?

With the filters something was fixed for 1.3.3.1 release, but I am
using 1.3.4. It still does not seem to work (used the local dev
server).

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[appengine-java] Re: Administration Console Custom Pages

2010-06-23 Thread WillNa


On Jun 23, 10:34 am, l.denardo lorenzo.dena...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think you're missing the security constraint on the page in web.xml

 security-constraint
         web-resource-collection
             url-pattern/adminboard/url-pattern
         /web-resource-collection
         auth-constraint
             role-nameadmin/role-name
         /auth-constraint
     /security-constraint



sorry, I forgot to tell you I already add these lines on web.xml
still not working


 Custom console pages are, for what I understand, nothing more than a
 handy way to access your administrator-only pages from the admin
 console, instead of manually browsing to them.

it's exactly what I want.
it's a nonsense to have 2 admin page : gae one and mine
but whatever I do, http://localhost:/_ah/admin/ always shows the 4
standard admin pages

perhaps it only doesn't work on local ?

Thanks

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[appengine-java] Re: memcache best practice or framework

2010-06-23 Thread Nacho Coloma
SimpleDS does also include a two-level Cache implementation. We are
using the same approach of Hibernate: the first-level cache is bound
to the current thread and will be discarded after the response is
committed, and the second-level cache is relying on Memcache.

The tricky part was dealing with partial cache results when invoking a
multiple get().

Feel free to inspect the code to get your own ideas:
http://code.google.com/p/simpleds/source/browse/#svn/trunk/src/main/java/org/simpleds/cache

On Jun 18, 10:08 am, Toby toby.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Ikai,

 Sorry but I might have worded my post incorrectly. I do not doubt
 memcache, in fact I use it very heavily and it is great.

 On Google I/O I learned that memcache is actually hosted on another
 machine and that for each request a significant network overhead is
 involved. In appstats I see about 20ms for a single request. Simple
 data-store requests are also between 20-50ms. So in fact memcache is
 good as second level cache but shows to be a bottleneck for data that
 I heavily use over and over again (plus it costs valuable API time).

 So the idea was to have some first level in-memory cache living on
 the same machine that is holding heavily used data to prevent the
 server round trip to the cache machine. Now you might tell me that my
 application is designed wrong. And indeed I could just put this in by
 myself. But as you also pointed out there are tricky parts like memory
 boundaries and other things to take care of. This is why I started
 this thread to see if someone has come up with a good solution.

 I think multiple cache layers are kind of a standard approach that has
 shown its usefulness in many places.  It would be good to have that as
 part of GAE. Of course this is not the most urgent issue.

 Cheers,
 Toby

 On Jun 17, 6:46 pm, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote:

  What aspect of Memcache is too slow? Have you run AppStats yet?

  The overhead of Memcache is low enough for many of the top sites on the
  internet to use. Some sites are listed on the main page here:

 http://memcached.org/

  As you move closer and closer to local memory, the volatility of your cache
  will increase, so the only items I would store in local memory are items
  that are okay to lose. If you want, you can probably layer your application
  to fetch from memcache - fetch from authoritative source and place into
  local memory on a cache miss. Just be aware that there are process memory
  limits, and exceeding these will force a restart.

  On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Toby toby.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello,

   I wonder if there is a framework (such as Objectify) also for
   memcache.  As memcache is not on the local machine it is rather slow,
   especially for reoccurring requests. So on Google I/O they suggested
   to build your own in-memory layer around that. I know that is an easy
   task, still I wonder if there might already be a framework for
   that :-)

   Also I wonder if someone can give me some ideas about how to build an
   in-memory cache. I guess it is just a static hashmap. But will it
   survive multiple requests? How much can I put in there?

   As the problem of memcache is apparently the high latency for the
   network traffic to the server I had the idea to store the in-memory
   cache in the memcache, de-serialize it and then use it?

   Do you have other ideas how to speed up caching?

   Thank you for your advice,

   Toby

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[appengine-java] Re: junit and local_db.bin

2010-06-23 Thread Nacho Coloma
I know that someone will arrive with a better implementation, but here
goes own little code snippet used to populate our test database. It
has survived five or six GAE upgrades, so glitches are expected :)

You must have two things in consideration: the appid and version must
match, and you should enable datastore writes.

File dbContents = new File(war/WEB-INF/appengine-generated/
local_db.bin);
LocalServiceTestHelper helper =
new LocalServiceTestHelper(new 
LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig()

.setBackingStoreLocation(dbContents.getAbsolutePath())
.setStoreDelayMs(4000)
.setNoStorage(false)
) {
@Override
protected Environment newEnvironment() {
return createEnvironment();
}
};
helper.setUp();
// ... now you can start writing your own data, and they will appear
in the console

public static Environment createEnvironment() {
try {
// retrieve application id and version from 
appengine-web.xml
String contents = FileUtils.readFileToString(new 
File(war/WEB-INF/
appengine-web.xml));
final String application = 
StringUtils.substringBetween(contents,
application, /application);
final String version = 
StringUtils.substringBetween(contents,
version, /version);

// initialize GAE
return new TestEnvironment() {

@Override
public String getAppId() {
return application;
}

@Override
public String getVersionId() {
return version;
}

@Override
public String getRequestNamespace() {
return ;
}
};
} catch (IOException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e);
}
}

On Jun 23, 11:05 am, Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Rommel with the method listAllDomain I can see the data, there should be
 a problem withhttp://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastoreperhaps a user roll
 or something similar (in JUNIT or loggin 
 withhttp://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore?

 Thanks.

 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

  Yup, for sure.

  Let's suppose you have an entity called domain which has the following
  attributes:

  1. Key
  2. Name

  public void listAllDomain(){
          List Domain results;
          Query query=factory.newQuery(Domain.class);
          try{
              results=(ListDomain) query.execute();
              if(results.iterator().hasNext()){
                  for(int k=0;kresults.size();k++){
                      Domain dumb=results.get(k);
                      System.out.println(Key:
  \t+String.valueOf(dumb.getKey()).toString());
                      System.out.println(Domain
  Name:\t+dumb.getDomainName());
                  }
              }
              else System.out.println(no results exist);
          }
          finally{query.closeAll();}
      }

  Where Domain.clas is the class type for your entity called Domain.
  besides, in the query object you can set filters for your query.

  this method will show the data in your data Store.

  As I can see, if the local_db.bin is getting bigger each time JUnit is ran,
  then the data must be there, so with this method you should be able to see
  all the data stored in your Data Store. you have just replace all Domain
  references for your Entity's.

  Hope this is was helpful.

  Rgds.

  R

  2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

  No, perhaps have yout got an example?

  2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

  have you tried to retrieve the data from your app, I mean, not using the
  http/_ah/admin console but using your own application, a class written
  in java to show the data, does it work??

  2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

  I think so, When I executed all is right, however I don't execute
  teardown method because If I executed this the data are deleted. 
  Alsoeverytime I executed JUNIT the local_db.bin file is bigger than the 
  last
  time so It has the data.

  2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

  is your JUnit well configured??

  2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

   But I can see the data created with the servlets with
 http://localhost:/_ah/admin, but not when I the data are created
  with junit.

  

[appengine-java] Re: Administration Console Custom Pages

2010-06-23 Thread l.denardo
Sorry, I didn't get you were working locally...
They don't appear in the development server, but they should appear
correctly in production.

In the dev server you must access them directly with their URL (admin
access restriction instead is correctly emulated).

regards
Lorenzo

On Jun 23, 4:47 pm, WillNa kan...@chez.com wrote:
 On Jun 23, 10:34 am, l.denardo lorenzo.dena...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think you're missing the security constraint on the page in web.xml

  security-constraint
          web-resource-collection
              url-pattern/adminboard/url-pattern
          /web-resource-collection
          auth-constraint
              role-nameadmin/role-name
          /auth-constraint
      /security-constraint

 sorry, I forgot to tell you I already add these lines on web.xml
 still not working



  Custom console pages are, for what I understand, nothing more than a
  handy way to access your administrator-only pages from the admin
  console, instead of manually browsing to them.

 it's exactly what I want.
 it's a nonsense to have 2 admin page : gae one and mine
 but whatever I do,http://localhost:/_ah/admin/always shows the 4
 standard admin pages

 perhaps it only doesn't work on local ?

 Thanks

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Re: [appengine-java] junit and local_db.bin

2010-06-23 Thread Ronmell Fuentes
mm I don't really know.
but should you necessary use JUnit?? I mean, you can use your own classes to
manage your data.

2010/6/23 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 Hi Rommel with the method listAllDomain I can see the data, there should be
 a problem with http://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore perhaps a user
 roll or something similar (in JUNIT or loggin with
 http://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore ?

 Thanks.


 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 Yup, for sure.

 Let's suppose you have an entity called domain which has the following
 attributes:

 1. Key
 2. Name

 public void listAllDomain(){
 List Domain results;
 Query query=factory.newQuery(Domain.class);
 try{
 results=(ListDomain) query.execute();
 if(results.iterator().hasNext()){
 for(int k=0;kresults.size();k++){
 Domain dumb=results.get(k);
 System.out.println(Key:
 \t+String.valueOf(dumb.getKey()).toString());
 System.out.println(Domain
 Name:\t+dumb.getDomainName());
 }
 }
 else System.out.println(no results exist);
 }
 finally{query.closeAll();}
 }

 Where Domain.clas is the class type for your entity called Domain.
 besides, in the query object you can set filters for your query.

 this method will show the data in your data Store.

 As I can see, if the local_db.bin is getting bigger each time JUnit is
 ran, then the data must be there, so with this method you should be able to
 see all the data stored in your Data Store. you have just replace all
 Domain references for your Entity's.

 Hope this is was helpful.

 Rgds.

 R

 2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 No, perhaps have yout got an example?


 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 have you tried to retrieve the data from your app, I mean, not using the
 http/_ah/admin console but using your own application, a class written
 in java to show the data, does it work??

 2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 I think so, When I executed all is right, however I don't execute
 teardown method because If I executed this the data are deleted. 
 Alsoeverytime I executed JUNIT the local_db.bin file is bigger than the 
 last
 time so It has the data.


 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 is your JUnit well configured??

 2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

  But I can see the data created with the servlets with
 http://localhost:/_ah/admin, but not when I the data are created
 with junit.

 2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com

 Hi Acerezo

 remember the Data stored in dataStore is schemaless so, as far as I
 know, only GAE knows how to deal with it.

 When I want to see the data from the dataStore I use the classes
 written in java in order to manage the data in Data Store.
 in the other hand, you can use Restlets running on your app in order
 to manage your data when deployed in GAE.

 Rgds.

 Ronmell

 2010/6/22 Acerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 Hello all,

 I have been running my server locally with JUNIT all is ok but when
  I
 want to see the data of the local_db.bin file from localhost:
  I
 don´t see the data (entities, etc) Anyone can help me, please?

 Thanks.

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: junit and local_db.bin

2010-06-23 Thread Andrés Cerezo
Hi!! Have you got a .java complete? I'm starting to have a lot of errors
(import, etc.)

2010/6/23 Nacho Coloma icol...@gmail.com

 I know that someone will arrive with a better implementation, but here
 goes own little code snippet used to populate our test database. It
 has survived five or six GAE upgrades, so glitches are expected :)

 You must have two things in consideration: the appid and version must
 match, and you should enable datastore writes.

 File dbContents = new File(war/WEB-INF/appengine-generated/
 local_db.bin);
LocalServiceTestHelper helper =
new LocalServiceTestHelper(new
 LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig()

  .setBackingStoreLocation(dbContents.getAbsolutePath())
.setStoreDelayMs(4000)
.setNoStorage(false)
) {
@Override
protected Environment newEnvironment() {
return createEnvironment();
}
};
helper.setUp();
 // ... now you can start writing your own data, and they will appear
 in the console

public static Environment createEnvironment() {
try {
// retrieve application id and version from
 appengine-web.xml
String contents = FileUtils.readFileToString(new
 File(war/WEB-INF/
 appengine-web.xml));
final String application =
 StringUtils.substringBetween(contents,
 application, /application);
final String version =
 StringUtils.substringBetween(contents,
 version, /version);

// initialize GAE
return new TestEnvironment() {

@Override
public String getAppId() {
return application;
}

@Override
public String getVersionId() {
return version;
}

@Override
public String getRequestNamespace() {
return ;
}
};
} catch (IOException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e);
 }
}

 On Jun 23, 11:05 am, Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Rommel with the method listAllDomain I can see the data, there should
 be
  a problem withhttp://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastoreperhaps a user
 roll
  or something similar (in JUNIT or loggin withhttp://
 127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore?
 
  Thanks.
 
  2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com
 
   Yup, for sure.
 
   Let's suppose you have an entity called domain which has the
 following
   attributes:
 
   1. Key
   2. Name
 
   public void listAllDomain(){
   List Domain results;
   Query query=factory.newQuery(Domain.class);
   try{
   results=(ListDomain) query.execute();
   if(results.iterator().hasNext()){
   for(int k=0;kresults.size();k++){
   Domain dumb=results.get(k);
   System.out.println(Key:
   \t+String.valueOf(dumb.getKey()).toString());
   System.out.println(Domain
   Name:\t+dumb.getDomainName());
   }
   }
   else System.out.println(no results exist);
   }
   finally{query.closeAll();}
   }
 
   Where Domain.clas is the class type for your entity called Domain.
   besides, in the query object you can set filters for your query.
 
   this method will show the data in your data Store.
 
   As I can see, if the local_db.bin is getting bigger each time JUnit is
 ran,
   then the data must be there, so with this method you should be able to
 see
   all the data stored in your Data Store. you have just replace all
 Domain
   references for your Entity's.
 
   Hope this is was helpful.
 
   Rgds.
 
   R
 
   2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com
 
   No, perhaps have yout got an example?
 
   2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com
 
   have you tried to retrieve the data from your app, I mean, not using
 the
   http/_ah/admin console but using your own application, a class
 written
   in java to show the data, does it work??
 
   2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com
 
   I think so, When I executed all is right, however I don't execute
   teardown method because If I executed this the data are deleted.
 Alsoeverytime I executed JUNIT the local_db.bin file is bigger than the last
   time so It has the data.
 
   2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com
 
   is your JUnit well configured??
 
   

Re: [appengine-java] Re: junit and local_db.bin

2010-06-23 Thread Andrés Cerezo
Thank you very much!!! At last I've solved it. Where have you found
documentation about it? I was going crazy!!!


2010/6/23 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com

 Hi!! Have you got a .java complete? I'm starting to have a lot of errors
 (import, etc.)

 2010/6/23 Nacho Coloma icol...@gmail.com

 I know that someone will arrive with a better implementation, but here
 goes own little code snippet used to populate our test database. It
 has survived five or six GAE upgrades, so glitches are expected :)

 You must have two things in consideration: the appid and version must
 match, and you should enable datastore writes.

 File dbContents = new File(war/WEB-INF/appengine-generated/
 local_db.bin);
LocalServiceTestHelper helper =
new LocalServiceTestHelper(new
 LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig()

  .setBackingStoreLocation(dbContents.getAbsolutePath())
.setStoreDelayMs(4000)
.setNoStorage(false)
) {
@Override
protected Environment newEnvironment() {
return createEnvironment();
}
};
helper.setUp();
 // ... now you can start writing your own data, and they will appear
 in the console

public static Environment createEnvironment() {
try {
// retrieve application id and version from
 appengine-web.xml
String contents = FileUtils.readFileToString(new
 File(war/WEB-INF/
 appengine-web.xml));
final String application =
 StringUtils.substringBetween(contents,
 application, /application);
final String version =
 StringUtils.substringBetween(contents,
 version, /version);

// initialize GAE
return new TestEnvironment() {

@Override
public String getAppId() {
return application;
}

@Override
public String getVersionId() {
return version;
}

@Override
public String getRequestNamespace() {
return ;
}
};
} catch (IOException e) {
throw new RuntimeException(e);
 }
}

 On Jun 23, 11:05 am, Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Rommel with the method listAllDomain I can see the data, there should
 be
  a problem withhttp://127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastoreperhaps a user
 roll
  or something similar (in JUNIT or loggin withhttp://
 127.0.0.1:/_ah/admin/datastore?
 
  Thanks.
 
  2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com
 
   Yup, for sure.
 
   Let's suppose you have an entity called domain which has the
 following
   attributes:
 
   1. Key
   2. Name
 
   public void listAllDomain(){
   List Domain results;
   Query query=factory.newQuery(Domain.class);
   try{
   results=(ListDomain) query.execute();
   if(results.iterator().hasNext()){
   for(int k=0;kresults.size();k++){
   Domain dumb=results.get(k);
   System.out.println(Key:
   \t+String.valueOf(dumb.getKey()).toString());
   System.out.println(Domain
   Name:\t+dumb.getDomainName());
   }
   }
   else System.out.println(no results exist);
   }
   finally{query.closeAll();}
   }
 
   Where Domain.clas is the class type for your entity called Domain.
   besides, in the query object you can set filters for your query.
 
   this method will show the data in your data Store.
 
   As I can see, if the local_db.bin is getting bigger each time JUnit is
 ran,
   then the data must be there, so with this method you should be able to
 see
   all the data stored in your Data Store. you have just replace all
 Domain
   references for your Entity's.
 
   Hope this is was helpful.
 
   Rgds.
 
   R
 
   2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com
 
   No, perhaps have yout got an example?
 
   2010/6/22 Ronmell Fuentes ringe...@gmail.com
 
   have you tried to retrieve the data from your app, I mean, not using
 the
   http/_ah/admin console but using your own application, a class
 written
   in java to show the data, does it work??
 
   2010/6/22 Andrés Cerezo acerezoguil...@gmail.com
 
   I think so, When I executed all is right, however I don't execute
   teardown method because If I executed this the data are deleted.
 Alsoeverytime I executed JUNIT 

[appengine-java] Thought Site

2010-06-23 Thread mauriziopz
Hi all,
i've been trying to install thought site, but I'm kind of lost, has
any one done it, do tyou have any suggestion?

thanks

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Re: [appengine-java] OneToMany mapping with JDO

2010-06-23 Thread yaniv kessler
If its an owned relationship, then if I'm not mistaken both classes (parent
and child) must have a Key class id, and cannot have a Long id, see this
excerpt from 
docshttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/datastore/relationships.html
:

The child class must have a key field whose type can contain the parent key
information: either a Key, or a Key value encoded as a string. See Creating
Data: 
Keyshttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/datastore/creatinggettinganddeletingdata.html#Keys
for
information on key field types.

Hope this helps,

Yaniv Kessler

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Moretto mala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to create a relationship one to many with jdo on my entity.
 Actually, the following code throws an exception.
 As you can see i had to comment the code that throws a runtime
 exception.


 package com.appspot.malacma.entity;

 import java.util.ArrayList;
 import java.util.Date;
 import java.util.List;
 import javax.jdo.annotations.*;

 @PersistenceCapable(identityType = IdentityType.APPLICATION)
 public class Context {

@PrimaryKey
@Persistent(valueStrategy = IdGeneratorStrategy.SEQUENCE)
private Long id;
@Persistent
private String domain;
@Persistent
private String description;
@Persistent
private Date createdAt;
@Persistent
private String url;
@Persistent
private String contextName;
@Persistent
private String waveID;
@Persistent
private String creator;
@Persistent
private String language;
@Persistent
private Visibility visibility = Visibility.PRIVATE;
@Persistent
private Status status = Status.DEFAULT;
 //@Element(dependent = true)
 //@Persistent(mappedBy = context)
 //private ListRequirementModule requirementsModule;
 //@Element(dependent = true)
 //@Persistent(mappedBy = context)
 //private ListRepository repositoryList;
 //@Element(dependent = true)
 //@Persistent(mappedBy = context)
 //private ListTag tag;

public Context() {
 //this.repositoryList = new ArrayListRepository();
 //this.requirementsModule = new
 ArrayListRequirementModule();
 //this.tag = new ArrayListTag();
this.visibility = Visibility.PRIVATE;
this.status = Status.DEFAULT;
}



public String getCreator() {
return creator;
}

public void setCreator(String creator) {
this.creator = creator;
}

public String getContextName() {
return contextName;
}

public void setContextName(String contextName) {
this.contextName = contextName;
}

public Date getCreatedAt() {
return createdAt;
}

public void setCreatedAt(Date createdAt) {
this.createdAt = createdAt;
}

public String getDescription() {
return description;
}

public void setDescription(String description) {
this.description = description;
}

public String getDomain() {
return domain;
}

public void setDomain(String domain) {
this.domain = domain;
}

public Long getId() {
return id;
}

public void setId(Long id) {
this.id = id;
}

public String getUrl() {
return url;
}

public void setUrl(String url) {
this.url = url;
}

public String getWaveID() {
return waveID;
}

public void setWaveID(String waveID) {
this.waveID = waveID;
}

public String getLanguage() {
return language;
}

public void setLanguage(String language) {
this.language = language;
}

public Status getStatus() {
return status;
}

public void setStatus(Status status) {
this.status = status;
}

public Visibility getVisibility() {
return visibility;
}

public void setVisibility(Visibility visibility) {
this.visibility = visibility;
}

@Override
public boolean equals(Object obj) {
if (obj == null) {
return false;
}
if (getClass() != obj.getClass()) {
return false;
}
final Context other = (Context) obj;
if (this.id != other.id  (this.id == null || !
 this.id.equals(other.id))) {
return false;
}
if ((this.domain == null) ? (other.domain != null) : !
 this.domain.equals(other.domain)) {
return false;
}
if ((this.url == null) ? (other.url != null) : !
 this.url.equals(other.url)) {
return false;
}
if ((this.waveID == null) ? (other.waveID != null) : !
 this.waveID.equals(other.waveID)) {
return false;
}
return true;
}

@Override
public int hashCode() {
int hash = 7;
hash = 13 * hash + (this.id != null ? this.id.hashCode() : 0);
hash = 13 * hash + (this.domain != null ?
 this.domain.hashCode() : 0);
hash = 13 * hash + (this.url != null ? 

[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread Prateek
Hello Ian,

I did try the URL but couldnt get the VIEW. I have configured my apps
with struts2 and tiles2. do i have to included any thing else in my
Mapping. I m getting an ERROR as

HTTP ERROR 404

Problem accessing /_ah/admin. Reason:

There is no Action mapped for namespace / and action name admin.
Powered by Jetty://

can you guide me to as how to resolve it.

Thanks and Regards
Prateek


On Jun 23, 6:37 am, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're welcome.

 Of course, if you do not want to view your locally-persisted entities
 and just want to delete them all, just follow the instructions give
 at:

  http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.ht...

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[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread Ian Marshall
Hello Prateek,

Are you trying to access the development web server console web
application? If so, is the full URL you tried

  http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin

(or whatever port number you use locally to test your URLs using the
dev app server)?

Cheers,

Ian


On Jun 23, 6:37 pm, Prateek bittooagar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Ian,

 I did try the URL but couldnt get the VIEW. I have configured my apps
 with struts2 and tiles2. do i have to included any thing else in my
 Mapping. I m getting an ERROR as

 HTTP ERROR 404

 Problem accessing /_ah/admin. Reason:

     There is no Action mapped for namespace / and action name admin.
 Powered by Jetty://

 can you guide me to as how to resolve it.

 Thanks and Regards
 Prateek

 On Jun 23, 6:37 am, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:

  You're welcome.

  Of course, if you do not want to view your locally-persisted entities
  and just want to delete them all, just follow the instructions give
  at:

   http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.ht...

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[appengine-java] Google Plugin for Eclipse 3.6 is now available

2010-06-23 Thread Jason Parekh
Hey folks,

Google Plugin for Eclipse 1.3.3 is out with support for Eclipse 3.6.
 Install it with Eclipse 3.6's new Eclipse Marketplace feature by going to
Help  Eclipse Marketplace, and search for Google Plugin for Eclipse.

Alternatively, here are the update sites:
- Eclipse Helios (3.6): http://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.6
- Eclipse Galileo (3.5): http://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.5
- Eclipse Ganymede (3.4): http://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.4
- Eclipse Europa (3.3): http://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.3

Need detailed instructions?  Check out the quick start guide:
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/getting_started.html

Enjoy!

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[appengine-java] Almacén de datos AppEngine

2010-06-23 Thread lisandrodc
Hola, quería saber como usar de manera local, sin subir la aplicación
a la web el tema del almacén de datos  local_db.bin, si puedo
visualizar la base de datos de manera local en mi equipo de alguna
manera.
Gracias
Lisandro

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Re: [appengine-java] Almacén de datos AppEngine

2010-06-23 Thread Gabriel Sosa
por lo que leo aca [1] por lo menos tenes que tener corriendo el devserver.

por otro lado te recomiendo que reformules la pregunta en ingles
probablemente obtengas mas respuestas.

Saludos

[1]
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.html#The_Development_Console

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 Hola, quería saber como usar de manera local, sin subir la aplicación
 a la web el tema del almacén de datos  local_db.bin, si puedo
 visualizar la base de datos de manera local en mi equipo de alguna
 manera.
 Gracias
 Lisandro

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[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread lisandrodc
Hi! I have a same problem that Prateek. I use Struts 2.
I try to access the development web server console web
application. http://localhost:8080, run, but  at run
 http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin
or:
http://localhost:8080/_ah/login
But for both, says the page:

Struts Problem Report

Struts has detected an unhandled exception:
# Messages: There is no Action mapped for action name login.


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 Hello Prateek,

 Are you trying to access the development web server console web
 application? If so, is the full URL you tried

  http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin

 (or whatever port number you use locally to test your URLs using the
 dev app server)?

 Cheers,

 Ian

 On Jun 23, 6:37 pm, Prateek bittooagar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Ian,

  I did try the URL but couldnt get the VIEW. I have configured my apps
  with struts2 and tiles2. do i have to included any thing else in my
  Mapping. I m getting an ERROR as

  HTTP ERROR 404

  Problem accessing /_ah/admin. Reason:

      There is no Action mapped for namespace / and action name admin.
  Powered by Jetty://

  can you guide me to as how to resolve it.

  Thanks and Regards
  Prateek

  On Jun 23, 6:37 am, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:

   You're welcome.

   Of course, if you do not want to view your locally-persisted entities
   and just want to delete them all, just follow the instructions give
   at:

    http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.ht...

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[appengine-java] Re: How to make Eclipse AppEngine+GWT plugin use proxy for update check.

2010-06-23 Thread Nick Lothian
Thanks Rajeev.

I've raised http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3389

Setting the proxy properties did work. I hadn't tried that because i
had presumed it used the network access mechanism specified in
com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.dev.LocalURLFetchService, which
doesn't pay attention to proxy properties.

It would be great if that could be fixed to. I have a patch for it
attached to the issue: 
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=544,
and applying it would make upgrading much easier.

(Yes, being behind a proxy is annoying)


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 Can you file an issue for this (passing DevAppServer arguments when running
 with GWT)?

 As for a workaround, can you try adding the following JVM arguments to your
 launch configuration:

 -Dhttp.proxyHost=http proxy hostname -Dhttp.proxyPort=http proxy port
 -Dhttps.proxyHost=https proxy hostname -Dhttps.proxyPort=https proxy
 hostname

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Re: [appengine-java] Almacén de datos AppEngine

2010-06-23 Thread John Patterson

Go to localhost:/_ah/admin/

On 24 Jun 2010, at 05:58, lisandrodc wrote:


Hola, quería saber como usar de manera local, sin subir la aplicación
a la web el tema del almacén de datos  local_db.bin, si puedo
visualizar la base de datos de manera local en mi equipo de alguna
manera.
Gracias
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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread John Patterson
You probably have struts configured to handle all requests.  Wicket  
uses a filter rather than a servlet so it can pass unhandled URL's  
down the chain.  Can you configure Struts like this?


On 24 Jun 2010, at 06:36, lisandrodc wrote:


Hi! I have a same problem that Prateek. I use Struts 2.
I try to access the development web server console web
application. http://localhost:8080, run, but  at run
http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin
or:
http://localhost:8080/_ah/login
But for both, says the page:

Struts Problem Report

Struts has detected an unhandled exception:
# Messages: There is no Action mapped for action name login.


On 23 jun, 16:50, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Prateek,

Are you trying to access the development web server console web
application? If so, is the full URL you tried

 http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin

(or whatever port number you use locally to test your URLs using the
dev app server)?

Cheers,

Ian

On Jun 23, 6:37 pm, Prateek bittooagar...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Ian,


I did try the URL but couldnt get the VIEW. I have configured my  
apps

with struts2 and tiles2. do i have to included any thing else in my
Mapping. I m getting an ERROR as



HTTP ERROR 404



Problem accessing /_ah/admin. Reason:



There is no Action mapped for namespace / and action name admin.
Powered by Jetty://



can you guide me to as how to resolve it.



Thanks and Regards
Prateek



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You're welcome.


Of course, if you do not want to view your locally-persisted  
entities

and just want to delete them all, just follow the instructions give
at:


 http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.ht 
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[appengine-java] Re: Local Persistance of Data

2010-06-23 Thread Prateek
Hello Ian ,

Hello John,

Thanks for the response.

@Ian : Yes, i m using the same URL but with my own port config ie
http://localhost:/_ah/admin. I even tried http://localhost:/_ah/login
but no output. I can see the local_db.bin file in my WEB-INF/appengine-
generated/ directory.

@ John, yep you are correct, all my request are mapped to be handle by
struts. its by default '/' mapping. But that is required for my apps.
if i config my struts to handle /_ah/admin as well where would i
redirect him.

Thanks and Regards
Prateek

So you

On Jun 24, 10:19 am, John Patterson jdpatter...@gmail.com wrote:
 You probably have struts configured to handle all requests.  Wicket  
 uses a filter rather than a servlet so it can pass unhandled URL's  
 down the chain.  Can you configure Struts like this?

 On 24 Jun 2010, at 06:36, lisandrodc wrote:



  Hi! I have a same problem that Prateek. I use Struts 2.
  I try to access the development web server console web
  application.http://localhost:8080, run, but  at run
 http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin
  or:
 http://localhost:8080/_ah/login
  But for both, says the page:

  Struts Problem Report

  Struts has detected an unhandled exception:
  # Messages:        There is no Action mapped for action name login.

  On 23 jun, 16:50, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello Prateek,

  Are you trying to access the development web server console web
  application? If so, is the full URL you tried

   http://localhost:8080/_ah/admin

  (or whatever port number you use locally to test your URLs using the
  dev app server)?

  Cheers,

  Ian

  On Jun 23, 6:37 pm, Prateek bittooagar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Ian,

  I did try the URL but couldnt get the VIEW. I have configured my  
  apps
  with struts2 and tiles2. do i have to included any thing else in my
  Mapping. I m getting an ERROR as

  HTTP ERROR 404

  Problem accessing /_ah/admin. Reason:

      There is no Action mapped for namespace / and action name admin.
  Powered by Jetty://

  can you guide me to as how to resolve it.

  Thanks and Regards
  Prateek

  On Jun 23, 6:37 am, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:

  You're welcome.

  Of course, if you do not want to view your locally-persisted  
  entities
  and just want to delete them all, just follow the instructions give
  at:

   http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/java/tools/devserver.ht
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is there any way to get around the Urlfetch 10 second deadline limit?

2010-06-23 Thread Alon Carmel
if it takes that much time for your server to respond your likely to fall
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if its a data that you need to receive back i suggest you alter the 2nd
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 Thanks for the replies.

 I'm new to all of this, but doesn't the async method still have a
 deadline of 10 seconds from when the urlfetch.make_fetch_call is
 made?

 Now since the call goes to my server and then my server could take 15
 seconds to run it's task and retuen a simple Data Added OK or Data
 Removed OK response I can't see how using async will help at all.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Extremely long deployment wait

2010-06-23 Thread Siegfried Hirsch
+1
the same here

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote:
 me 2. I experienced these problems in recent few days. Each time, the
 problem lasts for a hour or two. This annoys us very much as we can't
 do any deployment and developmenti'm not sure if this problem
 happens just for some applications, or all applications.  could anyone
 from google team tell us whats going on and when these problems would
 be fixed?


 Regards,
 Eric Ng Ka Ka


 On 23 June 2010 12:27, tav t...@espians.com wrote:
 Sadly, yes.

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 Anyone else seeing 5+ min wait deploying python apps?

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[google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread l.denardo
I'm just giving a not-well-thought suggestion, but I'd rather use
memcache for this.

I guess something like using a time-dependent code as the key (i.e. a
counter which increments every 30 seconds) and a list of user ids as
the value, and simply doing a get() on the cache for the current
counter value would work.

I don't know how this could scale, due to concurrent updates, but I
definitely think Memcache is the way to go, not datastore.

Regards
Lorenzo

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 Each of my users is polling the server every few seconds. I need to
 keep a list of the users that have polled in the last 30 seconds handy
 for a task I have queued to run every few seconds.

 The obvious way I see to do it is to update a datastore entry every
 time the user polls, and query the entries that have a timestamp
 within the last N seconds within my task queue. I can't imagine this
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 Any recommendations?

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[google-appengine] Image Handler in Python

2010-06-23 Thread Massimiliano
Dear All,
I'm trying to handle pictures in my app. I'm trying to do it with the
blobstore but I can't understand how it works.
I just need to have a sidebar on the app where people can upload immagine
and the app just shows thumbnails of these and clicking on it just links to
the imagine page (old style, just a link to the imagine).
Is there other solutions for this problem? Can I store the thumbs and the
pics in a Expando DB? I can't understand if the blobs in the datastore are
only long strings or picture too. But I suppose the the blobstore can store
a lot more than a Expando DB.
So I need just an handler to upload the picture (I can do this with the
blobsotre, but I can't store) and a Handler to show them. Could someone show
me the way?
Please note, I'm not a programmer or a IT, this is just an hobby and I have
no expertise in this matter.

Regards

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[google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread ping2ravi
I wouldnt suggest Memcache for this purpose as memcache doesnt
guarntee that what you put in it will be available after 30 seconds.
Memcach can be flushed because of number of reasons. And memcache
defnitely will not be scalable, if your number of ysers goes high then
least used entries will be deleted automatically even if that entry
comes under criteria of last 30 seconds.

I think your first thought about using datastore is good enough. Why
do you think Datastore will not be scalable? May be you can explain
your problem statement bit more.


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 I'm just giving a not-well-thought suggestion, but I'd rather use
 memcache for this.

 I guess something like using a time-dependent code as the key (i.e. a
 counter which increments every 30 seconds) and a list of user ids as
 the value, and simply doing a get() on the cache for the current
 counter value would work.

 I don't know how this could scale, due to concurrent updates, but I
 definitely think Memcache is the way to go, not datastore.

 Regards
 Lorenzo

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  Each of my users is polling the server every few seconds. I need to
  keep a list of the users that have polled in the last 30 seconds handy
  for a task I have queued to run every few seconds.

  The obvious way I see to do it is to update a datastore entry every
  time the user polls, and query the entries that have a timestamp
  within the last N seconds within my task queue. I can't imagine this
  scaling well.

  Any recommendations?

  Thanks.- Hide quoted text -

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[google-appengine] Re: Maximum number of versions

2010-06-23 Thread iceanfire
You didn't properly read his question. He said he had less than 10
versions so the limitation shouldn't apply here. Anyways, I had
the same problem, I currently have 7 versions (after deleting two) and
I still get that error.

On May 27, 3:26 pm, Aurelian aurelian.vacar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 it's quite normal, because the maximum number of applications is 10..

 i keep only 8 versions, and always delete the oldest.

 ciao..

 On May 27, 6:42 pm, Jairo Vasquez jairo.vasq...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi,

  This error is very common.

  Error 403: --- begin server output ---

  Too Many Versions (403)
  The application already has the maximum number of versions.
  --- end server output ---

  And I only have 9 versions right now. Usually I have less versions than that
  and sometimes the error appear.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Extremely long deployment wait

2010-06-23 Thread Eric Ka Ka Ng
too bad it even starts raising the following error:

Error 403: --- begin server output ---

Too Many Versions (403)
The application already has the maximum number of versions.
--- end server output ---

could someone from google help?


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 +1
 the same here

 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote:
 me 2. I experienced these problems in recent few days. Each time, the
 problem lasts for a hour or two. This annoys us very much as we can't
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 happens just for some applications, or all applications.  could anyone
 from google team tell us whats going on and when these problems would
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 Regards,
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[google-appengine] Java POJO Mapper

2010-06-23 Thread Patrick Twohig
A few months ago I went ahead and wrote a POJO mapper for AppEngine and I
just now got around to putting it up on Google Code.  If anybody wants to
try it out here it is.  I hope somebody can find it useful.

http://code.google.com/p/appengine-catfish/

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Jan Michael Ibanez

On Jun 23, 2010, at 4:11 PM, l.denardo wrote:

 I'm just giving a not-well-thought suggestion, but I'd rather use
 memcache for this.
 
 I guess something like using a time-dependent code as the key (i.e. a
 counter which increments every 30 seconds) and a list of user ids as
 the value, and simply doing a get() on the cache for the current
 counter value would work.

Alternatively, if you only want to see whether the user has polled, you could 
use the key 'user_%s_polled', substituting %s for the user's id, and place it 
in memcache with an expiration time of 30s. Every time you update the key, you 
can reset the expiration time.

In Python, this would look like:

  memcache.set(user_%s_polled % user, True, time=30)

Simply getting the key would tell you whether or not the user has polled in the 
last 30s. Memcache would then handle expiration; after 30s, the key is removed 
for you.

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Re: [google-appengine] Login page for mobile?

2010-06-23 Thread Patrick Twohig
*** I don't know if this violates Google's terms of service, so use this
method at your own risk. ***

You can POST some parameters to, I don't know what they are off hand.

https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLoginAuth

And then store the cookies.  If you're on iPhone you can pass a cookie
storage to NSURLConnection which will automatically persist the cookies for
subsequent requests.  Entering the wrong password too many times will lock
out the user's account and you'll have to direct the user to some page with
a CAPTCHA to unlock it.  I'm pretty sure the bulkloader.py script uses this
method to authenticate users.

This post may help.  Just translate the CURL/PHP to the equivalent mobile
code.
http://curl.haxx.se/mail/curlphp-2006-01/0014.html

Cheers.

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 Hi,

 The app relies on google accounts (
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/users/) using app engine's
 API. When visited from mobile it gives the normal google login page. Is
 there any way to get a mobile friendly google login page (similar to whats
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Maximum number of versions

2010-06-23 Thread Eric Ka Ka Ng
i got the same problem and i hv 6 versions only.

recently the deployment time is very slow, and can often fails. when
these problems happens, the Maximum number of versions problem may
occur too. i guess there are something wrong with the deployment
system now...


On 23 June 2010 17:02, iceanfire iceanf...@gmail.com wrote:
 You didn't properly read his question. He said he had less than 10
 versions so the limitation shouldn't apply here. Anyways, I had
 the same problem, I currently have 7 versions (after deleting two) and
 I still get that error.

 On May 27, 3:26 pm, Aurelian aurelian.vacar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 it's quite normal, because the maximum number of applications is 10..

 i keep only 8 versions, and always delete the oldest.

 ciao..

 On May 27, 6:42 pm, Jairo Vasquez jairo.vasq...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi,

  This error is very common.

  Error 403: --- begin server output ---

  Too Many Versions (403)
  The application already has the maximum number of versions.
  --- end server output ---

  And I only have 9 versions right now. Usually I have less versions than 
  that
  and sometimes the error appear.

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Re: [google-appengine] Login page for mobile?

2010-06-23 Thread Harshal
Great. Thanks Patrick for that hack.

Ikai, Nick do you guys have any plans to support it out-of-box?



On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Patrick Twohig
patr...@namazustudios.comwrote:


 *** I don't know if this violates Google's terms of service, so use this
 method at your own risk. ***

 You can POST some parameters to, I don't know what they are off hand.

 https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLoginAuth

 And then store the cookies.  If you're on iPhone you can pass a cookie
 storage to NSURLConnection which will automatically persist the cookies for
 subsequent requests.  Entering the wrong password too many times will lock
 out the user's account and you'll have to direct the user to some page with
 a CAPTCHA to unlock it.  I'm pretty sure the bulkloader.py script uses this
 method to authenticate users.

 This post may help.  Just translate the CURL/PHP to the equivalent mobile
 code.
 http://curl.haxx.se/mail/curlphp-2006-01/0014.html

 Cheers.

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Harshal p.hars...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

 The app relies on google accounts (
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/users/) using app engine's
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to speed up the task queue execution?

2010-06-23 Thread djidjadji
Do they address different entity groups or just a select few?

You can only do sustained about 1 transaction per second per entity
group (a post by Nick Johnson).
Maybe you get by doing 2 per second resulting in 120 updates finishing
in 1 minutes.

Have a look at the talk of Bret Slatkin of I/O 2010, the fan-in
solution might be something to use.

2010/6/23 Tristan Slominski tristan.slomin...@gmail.com:
 :)
 What do the logs say? I think tasks are like any other http request, are you
 starting new processes a bunch of time? That's 7-8 seconds each time. That
 may be the cause.

 On Jun 22, 2010 4:53 PM, dflorey daniel.flo...@gmail.com wrote:

 And: It is running fast like hell in dev environment. Just a few
 seconds to run the full bunch of tasks.

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 Yes, I can see like 1000 wait...

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[google-appengine] User model not indexed

2010-06-23 Thread Rafael Sierra
Hi there, when using appengine_django project I saw there are no
index at all on User model, look:

 username = db.StringProperty(required=True)
 first_name = db.StringProperty()
 last_name = db.StringProperty()
 email = db.EmailProperty()
 password = db.StringProperty()
 is_staff = db.BooleanProperty(default=False, required=True)
 is_active = db.BooleanProperty(default=True, required=True)
 is_superuser = db.BooleanProperty(default=False, required=True)
 last_login = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True, required=True)
 date_joined = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True, required=True)

But when someone login, you must match username and password (I'm not
using Google Account), is there some kind of magic or it's simple
wrong? I though that at last username, is_active and password would
have indexes.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Maximum number of versions

2010-06-23 Thread Rafael Sierra
I got the same problem, but removing 3 versions had fixed it, besides...

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote:
 i got the same problem and i hv 6 versions only.

 recently the deployment time is very slow, and can often fails. when
 these problems happens, the Maximum number of versions problem may
 occur too. i guess there are something wrong with the deployment
 system now...

It's really very slow, before it took less than a minute to deploy,
now it's taking 3~5 minutes...



 On 23 June 2010 17:02, iceanfire iceanf...@gmail.com wrote:
 You didn't properly read his question. He said he had less than 10
 versions so the limitation shouldn't apply here. Anyways, I had
 the same problem, I currently have 7 versions (after deleting two) and
 I still get that error.

 On May 27, 3:26 pm, Aurelian aurelian.vacar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 it's quite normal, because the maximum number of applications is 10..

 i keep only 8 versions, and always delete the oldest.

 ciao..

 On May 27, 6:42 pm, Jairo Vasquez jairo.vasq...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi,

  This error is very common.

  Error 403: --- begin server output ---

  Too Many Versions (403)
  The application already has the maximum number of versions.
  --- end server output ---

  And I only have 9 versions right now. Usually I have less versions than 
  that
  and sometimes the error appear.

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[google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear


On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan tristan.slomin...@gmail.com wrote:
 User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance  ~
 10,000 ms = 10s.
 User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're
 unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.
 User executes a task that delegates something to the queue. Oh no,
 start of a task, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.

If your instances are taking 1ms of CPU to start up, you're doing
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan tristan.slomin...@gmail.com wrote:
  User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance  ~
  10,000 ms = 10s.
  User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're
  unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.
  User executes a task that delegates something to the queue. Oh no,
  start of a task, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.

 If your instances are taking 1ms of CPU to start up, you're doing
 something horribly wrong.  Period.


That's pretty brave statement given how much the start times vary. Sometimes
my app needs 3s, sometimes it takes 9s.


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Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Ross M Karchner
I would love to know how much traffic (or better, how many topics
and subscriptions) PubSubHubBub serves, and how much it costs (even if
nobody really pays for it).

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 On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan tristan.slomin...@gmail.com wrote:
 User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance  ~
 10,000 ms = 10s.
 User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're
 unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.
 User executes a task that delegates something to the queue. Oh no,
 start of a task, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Harshal
Good question Ross. :)

+1



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 I would love to know how much traffic (or better, how many topics
 and subscriptions) PubSubHubBub serves, and how much it costs (even if
 nobody really pays for it).

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 wrote:
 
 
  On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan tristan.slomin...@gmail.com wrote:
  User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance  ~
  10,000 ms = 10s.
  User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're
  unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.
  User executes a task that delegates something to the queue. Oh no,
  start of a task, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.
 
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Static images not being served

2010-06-23 Thread Nick Johnson (Google)
Hi,

It seems more likely that you're encountering capitalization issues. Most
platforms, including the deployment platform for App Engine, are case
sensitive. Make sure you're referring to files with the same capitalization
as they're stored with.

-Nick Johnson

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM, n8gray n8g...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jun 21, 12:51 pm, n8gray n8g...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  My static images aren't being served.
  ...
  Thanks for any help, and please CC me with replies.

 Ok, sorry for replying to myself, but just after posting this I tried
 renaming my image file from HexaLex-logo.png to logo.png, and that
 solved the problem.  I'm guessing the '-' is the problem.  That's
 gotta be a bug in GAE, right?

 Thanks,
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[google-appengine] Filter using Key

2010-06-23 Thread MANISH DHIMAN
Hi all
Is it possible to filter entity using Key as a filter.

Somthing like given below
  supplierQuery.addFilter(Key, FilterOperator.EQUAL, key);

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[google-appengine] hoe to deploy

2010-06-23 Thread Sreekanth k
HI,
 i want to deploy the application can you help me out .
i followed one of the steps which i got when i was browsing .
every thing went fine for some time but when i want to deploy i was in
trouble
they said that we will find one deploy icon in tool bar but i cant
find it .
iam having both application title and identifier too.where can i find
deploy icon or how can i deploy my app.


Thank you  in advance

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[google-appengine] Re: Filter using Key

2010-06-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
If you know an entity's key, there's no need to do a query at all; you
can simply get the entity (using the low level Java API, as you seem
to be, I believe you want DatastoreService.get(key) ).

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 Is it possible to filter entity using Key as a filter.

 Somthing like given below
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[google-appengine] Possible to have more than 10 applications?

2010-06-23 Thread Thomas Beverley
Hey,

I've been developing robots for Google Wave since last year and I'm
going through my applications quite quickly. Is there anyway to
increase the 10 application limit?

Thanks
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Rye Terrell
I'm guessing it wont be scalable because if I have 1000+ polling users, I
would have to query and fetch that many entries every time my task runs
every second or so.

Maybe that's not so bad?  It seems like a lot of querying and fetching to
me.

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 I wouldnt suggest Memcache for this purpose as memcache doesnt
 guarntee that what you put in it will be available after 30 seconds.
 Memcach can be flushed because of number of reasons. And memcache
 defnitely will not be scalable, if your number of ysers goes high then
 least used entries will be deleted automatically even if that entry
 comes under criteria of last 30 seconds.

 I think your first thought about using datastore is good enough. Why
 do you think Datastore will not be scalable? May be you can explain
 your problem statement bit more.


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  I'm just giving a not-well-thought suggestion, but I'd rather use
  memcache for this.
 
  I guess something like using a time-dependent code as the key (i.e. a
  counter which increments every 30 seconds) and a list of user ids as
  the value, and simply doing a get() on the cache for the current
  counter value would work.
 
  I don't know how this could scale, due to concurrent updates, but I
  definitely think Memcache is the way to go, not datastore.
 
  Regards
  Lorenzo
 
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   Each of my users is polling the server every few seconds. I need to
   keep a list of the users that have polled in the last 30 seconds handy
   for a task I have queued to run every few seconds.
 
   The obvious way I see to do it is to update a datastore entry every
   time the user polls, and query the entries that have a timestamp
   within the last N seconds within my task queue. I can't imagine this
   scaling well.
 
   Any recommendations?
 
   Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
 
  - Show quoted text -

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Rye Terrell
If I do it this way, how can I know which user id to try to get from the
memcache?

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Jan Michael Ibanez jmiba...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Jun 23, 2010, at 4:11 PM, l.denardo wrote:

  I'm just giving a not-well-thought suggestion, but I'd rather use
  memcache for this.
 
  I guess something like using a time-dependent code as the key (i.e. a
  counter which increments every 30 seconds) and a list of user ids as
  the value, and simply doing a get() on the cache for the current
  counter value would work.

 Alternatively, if you only want to see whether the user has polled, you
 could use the key 'user_%s_polled', substituting %s for the user's id, and
 place it in memcache with an expiration time of 30s. Every time you update
 the key, you can reset the expiration time.

 In Python, this would look like:

  memcache.set(user_%s_polled % user, True, time=30)

 Simply getting the key would tell you whether or not the user has polled in
 the last 30s. Memcache would then handle expiration; after 30s, the key is
 removed for you.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Webb
You wouldn't - the concept to use mcache would be to make a hash or a token for 
the time second'th element i.e 1-30
store each pole user in the correct element
and then read the users back out of mcache
by looping the 30 or  mcache containers

I did give this some thought last night when i saw your post but i ran out of 
time
the idea would be

lets say we use pole+1 to 30 as a key
pole1 - happened 1 sec ago
pole29 - happened 29 sec ago
pole30 - will be removed when 31 secs elapse - as we set the mcache to destroy 
poles after 30 seconds

then when somone poles we get the time convert it into a number 1-30 being 
second elements in a min - this need some thought maybe seconds devide by 2 
- something like that
we then add the user_key to to the pole. maybe a dictionary?
then every second when you task runs
you load using a loop pole1pole30 grab all the keys in the dict and make a 
list
then if you need to load the models for the user you go a db.get(list)

i think that starting to sound like it might work - sure some bright spark can 
add some more detail
hope that helps



 
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From: Rye Terrell ryeterr...@ryeterrell.net
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 19:23:53
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of  
current users in google app engine?

If I do it this way, how can I know which user id to try to get from the 
memcache?


On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Jan Michael Ibanez jmiba...@gmail.com wrote:


On Jun 23, 2010, at 4:11 PM, l.denardo wrote:

 I'm just giving a not-well-thought suggestion, but I'd rather use
 memcache for this.

 I guess something like using a time-dependent code as the key (i.e. a
 counter which increments every 30 seconds) and a list of user ids as
 the value, and simply doing a get() on the cache for the current
 counter value would work.

Alternatively, if you only want to see whether the user has polled, you could 
use the key 'user_%s_polled', substituting %s for the user's id, and place it 
in memcache with an expiration time of 30s. Every time you update the key, you 
can reset the expiration time.

In Python, this would look like:

  memcache.set(user_%s_polled % user, True, time=30)

Simply getting the key would tell you whether or not the user has polled in 
the last 30s. Memcache would then handle expiration; after 30s, the key is 
removed for you.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Maaartin-1
On 10-06-23 20:45, Martin Webb wrote:
 You wouldn't - the concept to use mcache would be to make a hash or a
 token for the time second'th element i.e 1-30
 store each pole user in the correct element
 and then read the users back out of mcache
 by looping the 30 or  mcache containers
 
 I did give this some thought last night when i saw your post but i ran
 out of time
 the idea would be
 
 lets say we use pole+1 to 30 as a key
 pole1 - happened 1 sec ago
 pole29 - happened 29 sec ago
 pole30 - will be removed when 31 secs elapse - as we set the mcache to
 destroy poles after 30 seconds
 
 then when somone poles we get the time convert it into a number 1-30
 being second elements in a min - this need some thought maybe
 seconds devide by 2 - something like that

Surely not, but seconds%30 should work. However, this way you store
users who were polling multiple time during the last 30 seconds in
multiple poles. When computing the user list, you need to read all 30
poles and merge them.

Maybe saving a list of pairs (user, time) in a single pole could be
better, and a dictionary mapping users to time would be even better.
Each time you would set the value for the current user. From time to
time you should evict too old entries, so the data doesn't grow too much.

This way, you could use multiple poles too, let's say four of them,
indexed by minutes%4 with a timeout like 1 minute. This prevents the
data growth and computing the user list you need to look at only the
last one or two poles.

If there were thousands of users active in the last minute, the data
could be so large, that the overhead with reading and storing might be
high (no idea how efficient memcache loads and stores work). In such a
case splitting users in groups (determined eg. by something like
username.hashCode()%8 could help.

I'm not sure, if this is the way to go, but it sounds quite simple.

 we then add the user_key to to the pole. maybe a dictionary?
 then every second when you task runs
 you load using a loop pole1pole30 grab all the keys in the dict and
 make a list
 then if you need to load the models for the user you go a db.get(list)
 
 i think that starting to sound like it might work - sure some bright
 spark can add some more detail
 hope that helps

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[google-appengine] Re: appcfg.py upload_data does not upload all entities

2010-06-23 Thread elvin
Hi again,

Just wondering if anyone have come across this issue. It looks like it
should be quite popular. Or is there a better place to ask about this?

Thanks in advance.

On Jun 21, 8:22 pm, elvin e.v.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good day, everyone.

 I use appcfg.py script's upload_data functionality to upload backups
 to my test app. The app is written in Java, but I don't think it
 matters. I create backups using download_data script. Here's the
 problem:

 I have 124 entries of the specific kind in my datastore. All of them
 are downloaded and saved in a CSV file, so it's 124 lines. When I run
 upload_data script, it reports that all 124 entries were uploaded. But
 when I check them in a datastore viewer, only 83-103 of them are
 there. This effect is 100% reproducible. I then delete the temporary
 database file and re-run the upload (leaving the already uploaded
 entries in the datastore), and it progresses a bit, to like 110
 entries. Then about 115, 118, and from then on it gets less and less
 per iteration: 120, 122, 123, 123, 124.

 So finally all of them appear there but it takes a lot of time and
 slows drastically in the end.

 I saw some people mentioning the similar problem (not all of the
 entries being uploaded) in the Web but their problems had something to
 do with a patch which I don't use.

 Any idea why that happens and how it can be fixed? Thanks in advance!

 appcfg.py script I use is from the following version:
 
 release: 1.3.0
 timestamp: 1259695715
 api_versions: ['1']

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Webb
The key for the pole would be made as follows

second = #get the min interval of the current time
if second29
second=second-30
#this gives us 0-29 and then 0-29 again for one min 
then make the mcache key as
key='pole'+second

I don't know how many users may pole in one second - but i cant see merging a 
list stored in each pole would be too much of a handful.
If 30 poles are too many use 15 - 1 for each 2 second element or 3

Further more i don't know what info you need on the user - if all you want is 
their identifier - that can be stored in the list or their email
this would save on needing to get the users data from the model using the key.

Martin


  You wouldn't - the concept to use mcache would be to make a hash or a

 token for the time second'th element i.e 1-30
 store each pole user in the correct element
 and then read the users back out of mcache
 by looping the 30 or  mcache containers
 
 I did give this some thought last night when i saw your post but i ran
 out of time
 the idea would be
 
 lets say we use pole+1 to 30 as a key
 pole1 - happened 1 sec ago
 pole29 - happened 29 sec ago
 pole30 - will be removed when 31 secs elapse - as we set the mcache to
 destroy poles after 30 seconds
 
 then when somone poles we get the time convert it into a number 1-30
 being second elements in a min - this need some thought maybe
 seconds devide by 2 - something like that

Surely not, but seconds%30 should work. However, this way you store
users who were polling multiple time during the last 30 seconds in
multiple poles. When computing the user list, you need to read all 30
poles and merge them.

Maybe saving a list of pairs (user, time) in a single pole could be
better, and a dictionary mapping users to time would be even better.
Each time you would set the value for the current user. From time to
time you should evict too old entries, so the data doesn't grow too much.

This way, you could use multiple poles too, let's say four of them,
indexed by minutes%4 with a timeout like 1 minute. This prevents the
data growth and computing the user list you need to look at only the
last one or two poles.

If there were thousands of users active in the last minute, the data
could be so large, that the overhead with reading and storing might be
high (no idea how efficient memcache loads and stores work). In such a
case splitting users in groups (determined eg. by something like
username.hashCode()%8 could help.

I'm not sure, if this is the way to go, but it sounds quite simple.

 we then add the user_key to to the pole. maybe a dictionary?
 then every second when you task runs
 you load using a loop pole1pole30 grab all the keys in the dict and
 make a list
 then if you need to load the models for the user you go a db.get(list)
 
 i think that starting to sound like it might work - sure some bright
 spark can add some more detail
 hope that helps

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[google-appengine] Re: What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Michael
I have more then 1000 users online at peak and I'm using datastore for
this.
Unfortunately, updating last online time costs quite a lot of CPU
time. And
I'm updating only once per 5 minutes (on each poll I write last
online time to memcache and put it into datastore via cron).

On Jun 23, 6:45 am, Ryan ryeterr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Each of my users is polling the server every few seconds. I need to
 keep a list of the users that have polled in the last 30 seconds handy
 for a task I have queued to run every few seconds.

 The obvious way I see to do it is to update a datastore entry every
 time the user polls, and query the entries that have a timestamp
 within the last N seconds within my task queue. I can't imagine this
 scaling well.

 Any recommendations?

 Thanks.

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[google-appengine] How to speed up the task queue execution?

2010-06-23 Thread dflorey
Back to my initial question... ;-)
@djidjadji: Thanks for your post! Do you know more about this 1
second limitiaon?
I'm working only on separate entity groups (but they are of the same
kind) only.
I've been in that talk at the Google IO but I'm still confused why I'm
not able to execute more than ~2 tasks per second.
Is there some global transaction/s limit per app?
Or is the problem just that my app has low traffic for a long time and
then I'm starting ~1500 concurrent tasks?
But doing this for some time, I do not get any warnings about new
allocated nodes, but it is still not getting faster.


On Jun 23, 5:45 pm, Harshal p.hars...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good question Ross. :)

 +1

 On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Ross M Karchner 
 rosskarch...@gmail.comwrote:



  I would love to know how much traffic (or better, how many topics
  and subscriptions) PubSubHubBub serves, and how much it costs (even if
  nobody really pays for it).

  On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   On Jun 22, 9:49 pm, Tristan tristan.slomin...@gmail.com wrote:
   User sends a request for a page.. cold start, need new instance  ~
   10,000 ms = 10s.
   User stares at it for 2 seconds, clicks an interaction... we're
   unlucky, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.
   User executes a task that delegates something to the queue. Oh no,
   start of a task, new instance ~10,000 ms = 10s.

   If your instances are taking 1ms of CPU to start up, you're doing
   something horribly wrong.  Period.

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[google-appengine] Re: URL Fetch cannot get multiple cookies

2010-06-23 Thread TL
Exact same problem using java.net.HttpURLConnection

Filed bug: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3379

If anyone has problems with maintaining sessions on other websites
from app engine, this is a possible problem. Cookies get corrupted. So
vote for it :)

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Re: [google-appengine] How to speed up the task queue execution?

2010-06-23 Thread djidjadji
It's not a 1 second limitation. But if you hammer with concurrent
transactions on a single entity group you get a lot of collisions
and retries and that slows the whole process down. A rule of thumb is
don't try to update a single entity group more then once a second for
a long period of time. It's not about the kind but the individual
instances of a kind. If you have 50 request/s and they all want to
update 50 different objects with transactions it should work. It might
slow down a bit if they all hit the same tablet server but you won't
have collisions

The example at the TaskQueue man page also mentions the 1/s update by
transaction.

2010/6/24 dflorey daniel.flo...@gmail.com:
 Back to my initial question... ;-)
 @djidjadji: Thanks for your post! Do you know more about this 1
 second limitiaon?
 I'm working only on separate entity groups (but they are of the same
 kind) only.
 I've been in that talk at the Google IO but I'm still confused why I'm
 not able to execute more than ~2 tasks per second.
 Is there some global transaction/s limit per app?
 Or is the problem just that my app has low traffic for a long time and
 then I'm starting ~1500 concurrent tasks?
 But doing this for some time, I do not get any warnings about new
 allocated nodes, but it is still not getting faster.

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[google-appengine] What is a pattern for keeping track of current users in google app engine?

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Webb
I don't know if the solution allows a user to pole more than once in 30 seconds 
and i don't know if in fact you need to know if someone has polled multiple 
times in 30 seconds or keep an audit of all the historical poles - these 
questions would all change how this could and should be done.

If you may have upto 1000 users polling in one 30 second segment then you would 
have a list of 33 user refs in a list stored in each pole. I also dont know 
what information must be stored when they pole - if you need time and user ref 
or just a ref or if in fact you need more information.
mcache may loose data - though  i am surprised some are saying this could 
happen in this scenario - so again i don't know how accurate this must be and 
if in fact a pole was lost from time time whether that would be a problem 
especially if of course the same users are polling continually and being added 
to other poles. speed over accuracy?

Your first suggestion of using a model is still a good one tho 1000 entities 
being read every n seconds is hefty in my opinion. especially if you need to 
read user data from db and not just get the key. In the pole scenario a 
dictionary could be used and when the user poles their data read and stored in 
the pole in mcache at the time of polling as i have documented, which would 
save re-loading data from db when your task runs.

That said in addition to my last post with the mcache 30 pole solution - a bug 
fix is below for working the pole no 1-30 i did mention i ran out of time on 
this method.

The key for the pole would be made as follows

second = #get the min interval of the current time from server
if second29
second=second-30
#this gives us 0-29 and then 0-29 again for one min 
then make the mcache key as
key='poles%' %(second)

If 30 poles are too many use 15 - one for each 2 second element or  10 one for 
each 3 second element - again their are accuracy concerns here 30 being the 
more accurate this would be down to what you need from this routine.

If you have a need for the user data stored in the list - their is no need to 
merge it? just load each pole and iterate it doing whatever function you need 
to pursue? Their is no reason to merge the 30 poles for what reason? 

Thats just making extra work.

This is the only obvious way i can see of using mcache to perform such a task - 
in comparison to using a model and fetching entities with a time zone.

Martin


  

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[google-appengine] Re: TemplateDoesNotExist: css/datastore.css

2010-06-23 Thread allyourcode
I'm using Django 1.0, so it may be that your advice doesn't apply to
me. In case it does, I tried following what you're saying.
Unfortunately, I'm find it quite difficult to understand what you
think the problem is. I get your point about how there's some config
in settings.py that sets what template loaders to use. I think what
you're saying is that some other file is clobbering that setting.
Specifically, you seem to be saying that if the following line exists
in one of my files, I'll get sporadic TemplateDoesNotExist errors:

from google.appeninge.ext.webapp import template

I did a grep on my project, and I don't have that line anywhere.

On May 17, 1:13 pm, Roger Hu roger...@gmail.com wrote:
 This import is causing massive headaches on App Engine deployments
 with TemplateDoesNotExist sporadic messages.  Assuming you have Django
 1.1 setup correctly, the global_settings.py file will setup
 TEMPLATE_LOADERS to load from both the project dir (/templates) as
 well as any INSTALLED_APPS dir.  But we noticed sporadic issues with
 App Engine reporting the issue:

 TemplateDoesNotExist: Tried [u'/base/data/home/apps/
 myapp1234/1-2-2-8.341999523263263665/templates/volunteer-11.html']

 The reason?

 By default, Django has these two TEMPLATE_LOADERS defined in its
 global settings (defined in conf/global_settings.py):

 TEMPLATE_LOADERS = (
     'django.template.loaders.filesystem.load_template_source',
     'django.template.loaders.app_directories.load_template_source',
 )

 The second line tells Django to try all the INSTALLED_APPS dirs
 whenever attempting to render an HTML template.   For instance, we do
 not need to specify volunteer-11.html because it will try to look
 inside ragendja/templates, accounts/templates, and civio/templates, in
 the order defined by INSTALLED_APPS inside settings.py:

 INSTALLED_APPS = (
     'django.contrib.auth',
     'django.contrib.sessions',
     'django.contrib.admin',
     'ragendja',
     'accounts',
     'civio'
 )

 If you accidentally import this line in your Python code,

 from google.appengine.ext.webapp import template

 The GAE reconfigures TEMPLATE_LOADERS inside
 google.appengine.ext.webapp.template:

 import django.conf
 try:
   django.conf.settings.configure(
     DEBUG=False,
     TEMPLATE_DEBUG=False,
     TEMPLATE_LOADERS=(
       'django.template.loaders.filesystem.load_template_source',
     ),
   )

 +#from google.appengine.ext.webapp import template

 The result is TemplateDoesNotExist messages that may or may not occur.

 3. If you are using Django 1.1, you must be careful that you're not
 importing google.appengine.ext.webapp import template.  The solution,
 I believe, is to simply remove all webapp dependency imports:

 perl -pi.bak -e s/^from google\.appengine\.ext\.webapp(.*)/#from
 google.appengine.ext.webapp\1/g *.py

 We're still confirming that these changes will resolve the issue, but
 it seems to explain the problem we have been having on Django 1.1.

 Roger

 On May 10, 12:25 pm, Fredrik Bonander



 carl.fredrik.bonan...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a similar problem. When I updated to django 1.1 I get 
  TemplateSyntaxError: Template u'../index.html' cannot be extended, because 
  it doesn't exist.

  It seams that the problem lies in that the TEMPLATE_DIRS is not set wrong. 
  But I don't know how set in as a relative path.

  Anyone successfully used django 1.1 in GAE?

  ..fredrik

  On May 8, 2010, at 2:27 PM,allyourcodewrote:

   I think the problem is that my TEMPLATE_DIRS gets cleared at some
   point, even though my app doesn't do that, at least not directly. My
   guess is that this is happening somewhere in the SDK or Django helper
   to implement the admin pages, but I can't tell which piece is doing
   the manipulation :/.

   I'll try to upgrade my SDK, but again, when I tried this before, my
   app ended up dead in the water (forget what issues I was running into
   before).

   On May 7, 2:08 am, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com
   wrote:
   Hi,

   It's impossible to suggest what might be wrong without seeing the code in
   question. It looks like you're probably running into problems with 
   relative
   or absolute paths, or your css file is marked as static in your app.yaml.

   You should definitely upgrade your SDK - 1.3.3 is the latest version, and
   1.2.7 is very much out of date.

   -Nick Johnson

   On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:00 AM,allyourcodeallyourc...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi,

   I'm having a problem developing my GAE application. It's been reported
   as issue 464 on the GAE issue tracker, but it's not getting any
   attention, due to difficulties with reproducing the issue; hence, I'm
   turning to the GAE group to look for support.

   Restarting the dev server temporarily gets rid of the problem, but it
   keeps coming back. I'm worried this problem will come up in
   production, but we haven't released our app yet, so I've never had a
   chance to see how it works in production.

   One symptom 

[google-appengine] Problem with maps api key

2010-06-23 Thread Mac
Whenever I visit http://hospitalsusa.appspot.com, I get an error
message that says,
This website needs a different google maps api key Any
suggestions on how to fix this?

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[google-appengine] Cleanest way to start a looping task?

2010-06-23 Thread Ryan
I have a task that resubmits itself, so that it loops over and over
indefinitely.  Every time I start dev_appserver.py, I have to open
this url to get it going: http:///localhost:8080/loop?key=0.  Is there
some automated way to do this so that it starts when I run
dev_appserver.py, or when my app gets uploaded?

While I am on the topic of tasks, is there some way to automatically
execute the task queue built into dev_appserver?  The documentation
seems to say I must do it manually, but I hear whispers that the java
guys can automate it.  I found a script to do it, but it's a pain to
run every time I start things up again.

Thanks!

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[google-appengine] Entity Groups - does write time increase as # of objects in entity group increase?

2010-06-23 Thread Mark
Hi,

I've created two simple classes which I want to use in an entity
group:

class User {
int numReports;
}

class Report {
}

the User object will always be the parent, Report instances are part
of a User's entity group. There can be many Report objects per User:

User
  |--- Report

when I save a Report instance, I want to increment the 'numReports'
counter in the User object, in a transaction. This arrangement works
fine.

But as the # of Report instances increase, does app engine have to
lock all other Report instances in the same entity group before
performing the transaction? I'm worried that performance will degrade
as the # of Report objects per User increases.

Thanks

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[google-appengine] Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Greg
A previous thread morphed into a discussion about running costs and
then then morphed back again.

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/d92d127220fe4671/d12ed358b3fdaac9#d12ed358b3fdaac9

There were a lot of attempts to calculate theoretical costs, but no
real-world examples.

My app generally handles between 1 and 2 requests a second for most of
the day. It currently attracts about 2000 unique users a day, who
browse through 6 generated pages each (including multiple gets and
puts, and at least one email sent).

I have billing enabled, but have only ever paid a few cents a day for
email - I don't get anywhere near my other free quotas. All this
consumes about 0.6 cpu seconds a day, 300MB of bandwidth, and 200MB of
storage.

So from my perspective, the figures bandied about in the thread above
above seem crazy. Anyone else with production apps like to comment?

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Re: [google-appengine] Typical monthly costs for running an app

2010-06-23 Thread Martin Webb
Well what can i say that is just brilliant! - you should be over the moon.

This is why i congratulate Google on building a superb platform and a brilliant 
inventors notepad for creating applications and scaling them at a cost we can 
afford all to realize our dreams.
Where can you get such fantastic technology like this for that price. I only 
hope they continue their efforts in moving it forward and continue to keep it's 
pricing so that we can all invest our precious time without having to outlay 
money we don't have to make applications a reality before they start making 
money.

As i said well done Google. I  think your example is a good one. 

I must say i have spent 6 months solid learning GAE and i have thoroughly 
enjoyed it. It is a well earned rest from wasting too much time with other 
known technologies that make you invest too much into configuration, deployment 
and into the decision making of which one of their dam technologies to use 
next. i think we know who i mean.

I hope my happy experiences continue into the long awaited future.


 
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From: Greg g.fawc...@gmail.com
To: Google App Engine google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 24 June, 2010 5:25:47
Subject: [google-appengine] Typical monthly costs for running an app

A previous thread morphed into a discussion about running costs and
then then morphed back again.

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/d92d127220fe4671/d12ed358b3fdaac9#d12ed358b3fdaac9

There were a lot of attempts to calculate theoretical costs, but no
real-world examples.

My app generally handles between 1 and 2 requests a second for most of
the day. It currently attracts about 2000 unique users a day, who
browse through 6 generated pages each (including multiple gets and
puts, and at least one email sent).

I have billing enabled, but have only ever paid a few cents a day for
email - I don't get anywhere near my other free quotas. All this
consumes about 0.6 cpu seconds a day, 300MB of bandwidth, and 200MB of
storage.

So from my perspective, the figures bandied about in the thread above
above seem crazy. Anyone else with production apps like to comment?

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