Re: [google-appengine] Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester Program

[Jeff Schnitzer]

+1 to this!

I *do* need it... because "everything through SSL all the time" is
rapidly approaching mandatory.  Firesheep changed everything - now
users *realize* how insecure the web really is.

Jeff

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> Cayden and GAE Team,
>
> This is awesome.  I don't need it, but I know a lot of people in the
> community have asked for it, and I know they will be appreciative.  I am
> certain this took a lot of working internally to resolve limitations of
> other products, and likely some politics to get those solutions in place.
> This feature in my view, shows more than most Google's commitment to making
> this an enterprise class solution with as few "deal breakers" as possible
> for deployments.
>
> -Brandon
>
> Brandon Wirtz
> BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary
>
> Work: 510-992-6548
> Toll Free: 866-400-4536
> IM: drak...@gmail.com (Google Talk)
> Skype: drakegreene
> BlackWater Ops
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cayden Meyer
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:13 AM
> To: Google App Engine
> Subject: [google-appengine] Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester
> Program
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> I am pleased to announce that we are accepting signups for the SSL for
> custom domains Trusted Tester Program. This will allow you to serve secure
> traffic for your App Engine application from your own
> domain(https://your.domain.com) rather than your appspot.com domain
> (https://your-app-id.appspot.com).
>
> We will be offering two types of SSL service, Server Name Indication
> (SNI) and Virtual IP(VIP). SNI will be significantly less expensive than VIP
> when this service is fully launched, however unlike VIP it does not work
> everywhere SSL is supported, notably it is not supported by IE and Safari on
> Windows XP. Multiple certificates are supported by SNI, while the VIP
> service only supports a single certificate per virtual IP address. Wildcard
> certificates and certificates with alternate names are supported by both SNI
> and VIP.
>
> Either a Free or Paid Google Apps account is required to use SSL. The use of
> multiple domains is supported via the aliasing feature in Google Apps.
>
> If you are interesting in signing up to test this feature, please fill in
> the form linked below.
>
> https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHFoZFhlUT
> M1MUNpelFWcVJqcVAwckE6MQ
>
> Currently we are testing on a limited basis and will not be able to accept
> everybody who applies to the trusted tester program.
>
> As with all trusted tester programs, documentation is a work in progress.
>
> This feature is still in testing and as such we would advise against using
> this on production applications.
>
> If you have any queries, please email google-appengine-ssl-
> feedb...@google.com.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cayden Meyer
> Product Manager, Google App Engine
> Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
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[google-appengine] how does the channel api work under the hood?

[vega]

hi everyone
i dont think that it makes any difference in which language (java, python, 
go) the server is implemented, so i post in this forum and not in the java 
forum, maybe im wrong, but i hope thats not the case :)

i noticed that my client page, which uses the channel api to get information 
from the server makes every +-28 seconds a http get request to a google 
server.
okay... so the channel api works via long polling
wait... didnt the documantation say it works without the use of any 
polling?!

"The Channel API creates a persistent connection between your application 
and Google servers, allowing your application to send messages to JavaScript 
clients in real time without the use of polling."

first i thought that this would be a backup mechanism for old browser 
versions which doesnt support html5 sockets. 
so i updated my firefox to the newest version and it still used long 
polling after a bit of searching around i found that firefox needs extra 
mozilla websockets instead of websockets whatever...
so i tried the newest Opera version where it also uses long polling...

and by the way, why does it need a .js file which is on another server which 
is probably blocked by most of the company firewalls cause of talkactive 
being a chat programm?

so im kinda curious, is there somewhere an explanation on how the channel 
api works "under the hood"?

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[google-appengine] Re: Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester Program

[Pol]

That's great news, but I'm wondering: if we put GAE over SSL on
https://example.com, will doing AJAX from https://www.example.com to
https://example.com still be considered cross-domain or not?

On Oct 18, 9:22 am, Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:
> +1 to this!
>
> I *do* need it... because "everything through SSL all the time" is
> rapidly approaching mandatory.  Firesheep changed everything - now
> users *realize* how insecure the web really is.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> > Cayden and GAE Team,
>
> > This is awesome.  I don't need it, but I know a lot of people in the
> > community have asked for it, and I know they will be appreciative.  I am
> > certain this took a lot of working internally to resolve limitations of
> > other products, and likely some politics to get those solutions in place.
> > This feature in my view, shows more than most Google's commitment to making
> > this an enterprise class solution with as few "deal breakers" as possible
> > for deployments.
>
> > -Brandon
>
> > Brandon Wirtz
> > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary
>
> > Work: 510-992-6548
> > Toll Free: 866-400-4536
> > IM: drak...@gmail.com (Google Talk)
> > Skype: drakegreene
> > BlackWater Ops
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cayden Meyer
> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:13 AM
> > To: Google App Engine
> > Subject: [google-appengine] Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester
> > Program
>
> > Hey everyone,
>
> > I am pleased to announce that we are accepting signups for the SSL for
> > custom domains Trusted Tester Program. This will allow you to serve secure
> > traffic for your App Engine application from your own
> > domain(https://your.domain.com) rather than your appspot.com domain
> > (https://your-app-id.appspot.com).
>
> > We will be offering two types of SSL service, Server Name Indication
> > (SNI) and Virtual IP(VIP). SNI will be significantly less expensive than VIP
> > when this service is fully launched, however unlike VIP it does not work
> > everywhere SSL is supported, notably it is not supported by IE and Safari on
> > Windows XP. Multiple certificates are supported by SNI, while the VIP
> > service only supports a single certificate per virtual IP address. Wildcard
> > certificates and certificates with alternate names are supported by both SNI
> > and VIP.
>
> > Either a Free or Paid Google Apps account is required to use SSL. The use of
> > multiple domains is supported via the aliasing feature in Google Apps.
>
> > If you are interesting in signing up to test this feature, please fill in
> > the form linked below.
>
> >https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHF...
> > M1MUNpelFWcVJqcVAwckE6MQ
>
> > Currently we are testing on a limited basis and will not be able to accept
> > everybody who applies to the trusted tester program.
>
> > As with all trusted tester programs, documentation is a work in progress.
>
> > This feature is still in testing and as such we would advise against using
> > this on production applications.
>
> > If you have any queries, please email google-appengine-ssl-
> > feedb...@google.com.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Cayden Meyer
> > Product Manager, Google App Engine
> > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester Program

[Pol]

That's great news, but I'm wondering: if we put GAE over SSL on
https://example.com, will doing AJAX from https://www.example.com to
https://example.com still be considered cross-domain or not?

On Oct 18, 9:22 am, Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:
> +1 to this!
>
> I *do* need it... because "everything through SSL all the time" is
> rapidly approaching mandatory.  Firesheep changed everything - now
> users *realize* how insecure the web really is.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> > Cayden and GAE Team,
>
> > This is awesome.  I don't need it, but I know a lot of people in the
> > community have asked for it, and I know they will be appreciative.  I am
> > certain this took a lot of working internally to resolve limitations of
> > other products, and likely some politics to get those solutions in place.
> > This feature in my view, shows more than most Google's commitment to making
> > this an enterprise class solution with as few "deal breakers" as possible
> > for deployments.
>
> > -Brandon
>
> > Brandon Wirtz
> > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary
>
> > Work: 510-992-6548
> > Toll Free: 866-400-4536
> > IM: drak...@gmail.com (Google Talk)
> > Skype: drakegreene
> > BlackWater Ops
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cayden Meyer
> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:13 AM
> > To: Google App Engine
> > Subject: [google-appengine] Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester
> > Program
>
> > Hey everyone,
>
> > I am pleased to announce that we are accepting signups for the SSL for
> > custom domains Trusted Tester Program. This will allow you to serve secure
> > traffic for your App Engine application from your own
> > domain(https://your.domain.com) rather than your appspot.com domain
> > (https://your-app-id.appspot.com).
>
> > We will be offering two types of SSL service, Server Name Indication
> > (SNI) and Virtual IP(VIP). SNI will be significantly less expensive than VIP
> > when this service is fully launched, however unlike VIP it does not work
> > everywhere SSL is supported, notably it is not supported by IE and Safari on
> > Windows XP. Multiple certificates are supported by SNI, while the VIP
> > service only supports a single certificate per virtual IP address. Wildcard
> > certificates and certificates with alternate names are supported by both SNI
> > and VIP.
>
> > Either a Free or Paid Google Apps account is required to use SSL. The use of
> > multiple domains is supported via the aliasing feature in Google Apps.
>
> > If you are interesting in signing up to test this feature, please fill in
> > the form linked below.
>
> >https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHF...
> > M1MUNpelFWcVJqcVAwckE6MQ
>
> > Currently we are testing on a limited basis and will not be able to accept
> > everybody who applies to the trusted tester program.
>
> > As with all trusted tester programs, documentation is a work in progress.
>
> > This feature is still in testing and as such we would advise against using
> > this on production applications.
>
> > If you have any queries, please email google-appengine-ssl-
> > feedb...@google.com.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Cayden Meyer
> > Product Manager, Google App Engine
> > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester Program

[Pol]

That's great news, but I'm wondering: if we put GAE over SSL on
https://example.com, will doing AJAX from https://www.example.com to
https://example.com still be considered cross-domain or not?

On Oct 18, 9:22 am, Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:
> +1 to this!
>
> I *do* need it... because "everything through SSL all the time" is
> rapidly approaching mandatory.  Firesheep changed everything - now
> users *realize* how insecure the web really is.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> > Cayden and GAE Team,
>
> > This is awesome.  I don't need it, but I know a lot of people in the
> > community have asked for it, and I know they will be appreciative.  I am
> > certain this took a lot of working internally to resolve limitations of
> > other products, and likely some politics to get those solutions in place.
> > This feature in my view, shows more than most Google's commitment to making
> > this an enterprise class solution with as few "deal breakers" as possible
> > for deployments.
>
> > -Brandon
>
> > Brandon Wirtz
> > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary
>
> > Work: 510-992-6548
> > Toll Free: 866-400-4536
> > IM: drak...@gmail.com (Google Talk)
> > Skype: drakegreene
> > BlackWater Ops
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cayden Meyer
> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:13 AM
> > To: Google App Engine
> > Subject: [google-appengine] Announcing SSL for Custom Domains Trusted Tester
> > Program
>
> > Hey everyone,
>
> > I am pleased to announce that we are accepting signups for the SSL for
> > custom domains Trusted Tester Program. This will allow you to serve secure
> > traffic for your App Engine application from your own
> > domain(https://your.domain.com) rather than your appspot.com domain
> > (https://your-app-id.appspot.com).
>
> > We will be offering two types of SSL service, Server Name Indication
> > (SNI) and Virtual IP(VIP). SNI will be significantly less expensive than VIP
> > when this service is fully launched, however unlike VIP it does not work
> > everywhere SSL is supported, notably it is not supported by IE and Safari on
> > Windows XP. Multiple certificates are supported by SNI, while the VIP
> > service only supports a single certificate per virtual IP address. Wildcard
> > certificates and certificates with alternate names are supported by both SNI
> > and VIP.
>
> > Either a Free or Paid Google Apps account is required to use SSL. The use of
> > multiple domains is supported via the aliasing feature in Google Apps.
>
> > If you are interesting in signing up to test this feature, please fill in
> > the form linked below.
>
> >https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHF...
> > M1MUNpelFWcVJqcVAwckE6MQ
>
> > Currently we are testing on a limited basis and will not be able to accept
> > everybody who applies to the trusted tester program.
>
> > As with all trusted tester programs, documentation is a work in progress.
>
> > This feature is still in testing and as such we would advise against using
> > this on production applications.
>
> > If you have any queries, please email google-appengine-ssl-
> > feedb...@google.com.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Cayden Meyer
> > Product Manager, Google App Engine
> > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Bulk delete stuck

[b]

It seems like stats were correctly calculated eventually, but those 2 steps 
are still "active", so I'm afraid that if I start writing to datastore, 
something might be deleted by those 2 active steps. Could someone from 
appengine team chime in?

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[google-appengine] Re: How to determine datastore reads?

[MLTrim]

I'm in your same situation and I'm fighting to make the number of Datastore 
Reads low, but sadly without success.

At first sight I thought the culprit was Googlebot but also after some 
adjustment the number of reads are not changed.

Is it possible to know, with a clear example, how many Datastore Reads are 
hidden inside the *Count *and the *Query *operations?

I have 110K Datastore Reads operations in 24h with just 2K requests 
(Bots+Organic).. that means something like 10+ Datastore Reads per request 
(and I'm caching a lot of stuff!)

Please, help us!




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[google-appengine] Launch my Server service security extention WebMail Microsoft

[محمدرضا رضايي]

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[google-appengine] Re: How to determine datastore reads?

[Gerald Tan]

If I'm not wrong Count will cost 1 Datastore Small-op per Entity counted, so 
if the count is N, it will cost N Datastore Small-op.
Each Query operation should cost 1 Datastore Read per Entity returned.

Obviously, caching is the best method to bring down the cost, but it will 
also depend on your caching strategy,

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[google-appengine] dev_appserver.py not respecting --datastore_path

[Ricardo Bánffy]

Since the 1.5.5 upgrade, I noticed my dev_appserver.py is acting weird.

$ dev_appserver.py --use_sqlite --datastore_path=dev_appserver_4.sql3 src
Warning: You are using a Python runtime (2.7) that is more recent than
the production runtime environment (2.5). Your application may use
features that are not available in the production environment and may
not work correctly when deployed to production.
INFO 2011-10-18 13:08:34,657 appengine_rpc.py:159] Server:
appengine.google.com
INFO 2011-10-18 13:08:34,981 appcfg.py:463] Checking for updates to the SDK.
INFO 2011-10-18 13:08:35,846 appcfg.py:481] The SDK is up to date.
INFO 2011-10-18 13:08:35,848 rdbms_sqlite.py:58] Connecting to
SQLite database '' with file '/tmp/dev_appserver.rdbms'

$ ls -l $(which dev_appserver.py)
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 2011-09-18 13:59
/usr/local/bin/dev_appserver.py ->
/opt/google_appengine/dev_appserver.py

Shouldn't it connect to the ./dev_appserver_4.sql3 database? Am I
making some basic mistake? Something *really* dumb?


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Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update #11

[Johan Euphrosine]

Added you as an author of the doc, so you get notification when there is new
comments.

Feel free to remove yourself if this is too spammy.


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:

> I've made some (rough) updates.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Johan Euphrosine 
> wrote:
> > This should now be fixed, let me know if it works.
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jeff Schnitzer 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't seem to edit or comment in any way.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Johan Euphrosine 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > Thanks a lot both for your feedback, I think this topic deserve a
> proper
> >> > article covering all the view / technique about caching, based on what
> >> > you
> >> > said I started to draft one here:
> >> >
> >> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16OEn3-7pWBv6PopKjk9Onk9cF1B0PtOQcyDd3q6YAc0/edit?hl=en_US
> >> > Feel free to contribute or add comments.
> >> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Brandon Wirtz 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It also doesn't talk about using Instance memory, which is a HUGE
> part
> >> >> of
> >> >> my
> >> >> caching strategy.  Even from a beginners guide I'm not sure this is
> an
> >> >> article I would promote, I think more people will be unhappy with
> this
> >> >> solution than will benefit from it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> >> >> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Schnitzer
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:21 PM
> >> >> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> >> >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Weekly Community Update
> #11
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Johan Euphrosine 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Nice Article about caching strategies for App Engine apps by +Chris
> >> >> > Bunch
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> http://www.byzantinereality.com/2011/8/Two-Caching-Strategies-for-App-
> >> >> > Engine-apps
> >> >>
> >> >> That page doesn't seem to allow comments, so I'll have to rant here:
> >> >>
> >> >> This caching strategy is a terrible idea.  Trust me, it's taken a
> long
> >> >> time
> >> >> to work out the kinks in Objectify's transparent memcache.  This
> >> >> caching
> >> >> strategy will go out of sync under contention.  You need to use CAS
> >> >> operations to avoid race conditions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff
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[google-appengine] Django

[Max]

Hi,
I suppose for who knows it, this request is really easy. But It's making me 
crazy and I can't find documentation in the Django site (or I can't 
understand it).
I'm building an array to be used in a javascript. I need the var "contatore" 
to be 0 then 1, 2, 3... I need to +1 each time starting by 0. 
Normally I have only to declare the var =0 out the for and the just var = 
var +1 inside the for. But in Django I can't understand which is the sybtax 
to do it.
Please help, I need only this to close a project
This is my code:

{% for elemento in risultati %}
indirizzi[{{ contatore }}]="{{ elemento.indirizzo }}, {{ elemento.citta }} 
{{ elemento.nazione }}";
descrizioni[{{ contatore }}]="{{ elemento.nome }}";
informazioni[{{ contatore }}]="Nome: {{ elemento.nome }} "
{% endfor %}


Max

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[google-appengine] deferred not working after upgrade to 1.5.5

[Mathias Nielsen]

Hi, I just upgraded to 1.5.5 and deferred is no longer working.

Traceback:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/49/

Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Or where I should look next?

BTW: I am using Flask if that makes any difference.

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[google-appengine] Moving existing application to another domain

[Bart Prokop]

Hello,

I have my application running in a domain managed by Google Apps. Is
there any way of moving entire application (including datastore, etc.)
from one domain managed by Google Apps to another? The reason is that
this application will be managed by another company and we need to
left current domain in old company.

Bart

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[google-appengine] urlfetch from backend returns 500

[Greg]

Hi, Im trying to use a backend for data fetching/processing but
urlfetch requests keep failing with 500 errors in production. When
running in the dev server the backend seems to work fine. Ive tried
both resident & dynamic backends with no difference.

All im seeing in the prod logs is the message "fetch failed with code:
500"

Is this a general problem or could I have set up the backend wrong?
(quite possible as this is my first backend + the docs are a bit
lacking in places).

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[google-appengine] Please help me how to move my data to the cloud

[Nandar Wai Yee]

Hello Masters,

I want a solution for my problem

 The problem is that ..how to move my data to the cloud.
  I built an application.
  It is ok in local ...no errorit can show the result
without any difficulty.
  But  after i deployed my application to the web,  my
application can't work well as in local.
  I mean, when i put an input to the  input box, then i pressed
calculate button, the result cannot be shown.
  How can i change which part of the code and where?
  I am waiting forward ur reply.

with best regards,

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[google-appengine] queuing task for frontend from backend (push queue)

[db.User('someone')]

Hi,

I  have a task running on backend, which needs to schedule another
task to be run on frontend.

Can this be done?

Just omitting the 'target' param creates tasks which still run on the
backend.

(I'm using taskqueue API with the default push queue)

Thanks!

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[google-appengine] HTTP ERROR 500

[Alfredo]

Hi Experts, I'm starting with google app engine. I was trying to make
some practice with entities and JPA, but I always obtain the same
error.

thanks a lot!


HTTP ERROR 500

Problem accessing /. Reason:

Unable to compile class for JSP:

An error occurred at line: 6 in the generated java file
Only a type can be imported. javax.persistence.EntityManager resolves
to a package

An error occurred at line: 23 in the jsp file: /index.jsp
EntityManager cannot be resolved to a type
20: 
21: Hello World!
22: <%
23:  EntityManager em = EMF.get().createEntityManager();
24:
25:  Usuario user1 = new Usuario();
26:  user1.setNombre("ddf1");


An error occurred at line: 23 in the jsp file: /index.jsp
The type javax.persistence.EntityManagerFactory cannot be resolved. It
is indirectly referenced from required .class files
20: 
21: Hello World!
22: <%
23:  EntityManager em = EMF.get().createEntityManager();
24:
25:  Usuario user1 = new Usuario();
26:  user1.setNombre("ddf1");


An error occurred at line: 23 in the jsp file: /index.jsp
The method createEntityManager() is undefined for the type
EntityManagerFactory
20: 
21: Hello World!
22: <%
23:  EntityManager em = EMF.get().createEntityManager();
24:
25:  Usuario user1 = new Usuario();
26:  user1.setNombre("ddf1");


Stacktrace:
Caused by:

org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Unable to compile class for JSP:

An error occurred at line: 6 in the generated java file
Only a type can be imported. javax.persistence.EntityManager resolves
to a package

An error occurred at line: 23 in the jsp file: /index.jsp
EntityManager cannot be resolved to a type
20: 
21: Hello World!
22: <%
23:  EntityManager em = EMF.get().createEntityManager();
24:
25:  Usuario user1 = new Usuario();
26:  user1.setNombre("ddf1");


An error occurred at line: 23 in the jsp file: /index.jsp
The type javax.persistence.EntityManagerFactory cannot be resolved. It
is indirectly referenced from required .class files
20: 
21: Hello World!
22: <%
23:  EntityManager em = EMF.get().createEntityManager();
24:
25:  Usuario user1 = new Usuario();
26:  user1.setNombre("ddf1");


An error occurred at line: 23 in the jsp file: /index.jsp
The method createEntityManager() is undefined for the type
EntityManagerFactory
20: 
21: Hello World!
22: <%
23:  EntityManager em = EMF.get().createEntityManager();
24:
25:  Usuario user1 = new Usuario();
26:  user1.setNombre("ddf1");


Stacktrace:
at
org.apache.jasper.compiler.DefaultErrorHandler.javacError(DefaultErrorHandler.java:
92)
at
org.apache.jasper.compiler.ErrorDispatcher.javacError(ErrorDispatcher.java:
330)
at
org.apache.jasper.compiler.JDTCompiler.generateClass(JDTCompiler.java:
439)
at org.apache.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:349)
at org.apache.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:327)
at org.apache.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:314)
at
org.apache.jasper.JspCompilationContext.compile(JspCompilationContext.java:
592)
at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:
317)
at
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:
313)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:260)
at com.google.appengine.tools.development.PrivilegedJspServlet.access
$101(PrivilegedJspServlet.java:23)
at com.google.appengine.tools.development.PrivilegedJspServlet
$2.run(PrivilegedJspServlet.java:59)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at
com.google.appengine.tools.development.PrivilegedJspServlet.service(PrivilegedJspServlet.java:
57)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:
511)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166)
at
com.google.appengine.tools.development.BackendServersFilter.doFilter(BackendServersFilter.java:
97)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:
388)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:
216)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:
182)
at
org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:
765)
at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:
418)
at
com.google.apphosting.utils.jetty.DevAppEngineWebAppContext.handle(DevAppEngineWebAppContext.java:
70)
at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.Dispatcher.forward(Dispatcher

[google-appengine] Activation

[Marcela Cioma]

I have tried to get an activation code for google app engine and I
couldn't.
I have a Movistar mobile phone and also tried with a Personal one but
i didn't receive any sms.
Could you please give me access for this
account(cositas.dulces...@gmail.com)  and also for sub...@gmail.com?

Thanks a lot

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[google-appengine] Re: BindingProviderProperties and JAXWSProperties not supported on GAE

[Deepak Singh]

Resending...

Pls let me know if i need to open an issue.

Thanks
Deepak

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Deepak Singh wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have JAXWS-2.1.6 client running on GAE 1.5.5
> I need to increase the timeout to 60 sec as follows
>
>
> import com.sun.xml.internal.ws.client.BindingProviderProperties;
> import com.sun.xml.internal.ws.developer.JAXWSProperties;
>
>
> Map context =
> ((BindingProvider)tktPort).getRequestContext();
> context.put(BindingProviderProperties.CONNECT_TIMEOUT, 6);
>  context.put(JAXWSProperties.CONNECT_TIMEOUT, 6);
>
> But  BindingProviderProperties and JAXWSProperties are not supported on GAE
> 1.5.5 still.
>
> So Any idea how can i increase the timeout.
>
> Also, Is there a way so that i can set a specific timeout for entire
> application. I mean to say application specific connect timeout to be set on
> GAE.
> Is there a way to achieve this ?
>
> Thanks
> Deepak
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[google-appengine] Mail Delivery Delay

[sboire]

I use GAE for a 24/7 support portal. People enter support issues and the 
portal will notify technician by email on their BlackBerry (yes I know, not 
Android...).

The problem is that every night Google mail infrastructure (mail API) seems 
to have delivery problems around 00h00 EST. Most delivery are delayed by an 
hour, sometimes two.. Since we have an SLA to respond to support issues 
within 30 minutes, that's a big no go.

Here's included are the delivered email headers (I changed the email address 
for privacy concerns) of one of the emails that was delayed. We can see that 
the email was received in Google infrastructure 21h34 PDT, but left only 
at 23h18 PDT. 

I suspect that the problem is with the bridgehead servers from GAE, since 
emails sent to gmail don't experience the same delay. Anybody experienced 
this?

Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from mx1.localdomain ([xxx.xx.xx.xx]) by mail.example.com with 
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:18:33 -0400
Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])
by mx1.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2512A77B
for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 06:18:24 + (UTC)
Received: from mx1.localdomain ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (mail.example.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 00837-08 for ;
 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:18:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mail-vw0-f69.google.com (mail-vw0-f69.google.com 
[209.85.212.69])
by mx1.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP
for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:18:22 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by vwm42 with SMTP id 42so177225vwm.8
for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:18:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Received: by 10.236.119.201 with SMTP id n49mr1264421yhh.0.1318912464657; 
Mon,
 17 Oct 2011 21:34:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-Appengine-App-Id: scc-support
Message-ID: <20cf3010e453f21c9c04af8b3...@google.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:34:24 +
Subject: Sagemcom 24/7 Support Issue Notification
From: sen...@example.com
To: recipi...@example.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes
X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2a
Return-Path: 
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Re: [google-appengine] Django

[Max]

Thanks It's working well!

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[google-appengine] Re: how does the channel api work under the hood?

[Moishe]

>"The Channel API creates a persistent connection between your application >and 
>Google servers, allowing your application to send messages to JavaScript 
>clients in real time without the use of polling." 

The Channel API uses the same mechanism that Gmail chat, Google+
notifications, etc. use to deliver messages to javascript clients.
Currently the most widely-available way to do this is by long-polling
rather than by websockets. So, the _implementation_ uses long-polling,
but that should be opaque to apps -- your app doesn't need to
implement all the plumbing to handle any sort of polling.

The .js file lives on another server because that server is
responsible for the long-polling plumbing; it's mostly a detail to
facilitate rollout. Whether or not the .js is blocked is almost
irrelevant, since the actual long-poll goes to the same server and if
that's blocked nothing will work. There is a feature request on our
issue tracker (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?
id=4764) to move these off of the talkgadget domain.

Hope that sheds some light-

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Re: [google-appengine] deferred not working after upgrade to 1.5.5

[Robert Schuppenies]

Can you file a ticket at
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/ including
the traceback and steps to reproduce?

thanks,
robert

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> Hi, I just upgraded to 1.5.5 and deferred is no longer working.
>
> Traceback:
> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/49/
>
> Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Or where I should look next?
>
> BTW: I am using Flask if that makes any difference.
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Re: [google-appengine] Django

[Matt Jibson]

You need to user {{ forloop.counter }}.
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/ref/templates/builtins/#for

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Max  wrote:
> Hi,
> I suppose for who knows it, this request is really easy. But It's making me
> crazy and I can't find documentation in the Django site (or I can't
> understand it).
> I'm building an array to be used in a javascript. I need the var "contatore"
> to be 0 then 1, 2, 3... I need to +1 each time starting by 0.
> Normally I have only to declare the var =0 out the for and the just var =
> var +1 inside the for. But in Django I can't understand which is the sybtax
> to do it.
> Please help, I need only this to close a project
> This is my code:
> {% for elemento in risultati %}
> indirizzi[{{ contatore }}]="{{ elemento.indirizzo }}, {{ elemento.citta }}
> {{ elemento.nazione }}";
> descrizioni[{{ contatore }}]="{{ elemento.nome }}";
> informazioni[{{ contatore }}]="Nome: {{ elemento.nome }} "
> {% endfor %}
>
> Max
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Re: [google-appengine] queuing task for frontend from backend (push queue)

[Greg Darke]

In the recent 1.5.5 release we added a feature to allow just this
behaviour.
If you pass the new module level constant DEFAULT_APP_VERSION as value
for the target parameter the task will be enqueued on the default
version of your application.

You can use it as follows:

from google.appengine.api import taskqueue

task = taskqueue.Task(url='/', target=taskqueue.DEFAULT_APP_VERSION)
taskqueue.Queue().add(task)

# Or the following one-liner:
taskqueue.add(url='/', target=taskqueue.DEFAULT_APP_VERSION)

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 03:47:07AM -0700, db.User('someone') wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I  have a task running on backend, which needs to schedule another
> task to be run on frontend.
> 
> Can this be done?
> 
> Just omitting the 'target' param creates tasks which still run on the
> backend.
> 
> (I'm using taskqueue API with the default push queue)
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [google-appengine] deferred not working after upgrade to 1.5.5

[Greg Darke]

The python27 runtime is only available in production, it does not yet
run in the dev_appserver.

If you change the runtime line in your app.yaml file back to 'python',
then it should run correctly.

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:19:01AM -0700, Mathias Nielsen wrote:
> Hi, I just upgraded to 1.5.5 and deferred is no longer working.
> 
> Traceback:
> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/49/
> 
> Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Or where I should look next?
> 
> BTW: I am using Flask if that makes any difference.
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[google-appengine] Re: queuing task for frontend from backend (push queue)

[db.User('someone')]

Yep, found this in 1.5.5 release notes :)

Sidenote: 1.5.5 MSI failed to install on my XP

Thanks!

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[google-appengine] Re: queuing task for frontend from backend (push queue)

[stevep]

Have not yet done this, but plan to experiment with it. Presumably if
I run my on-line call handler in a non-default version, I can make on-
line handler calls to DEFAULT task queue tasks such that my DEFAULT
instance ends up only processing TQ items. I'm seeing this as a means
to effect a pseudo-high-reliability TQ (granted many issues might
affect its reliability, but I'll have reasonable control over this).

Thanks,
stevep

On Oct 18, 9:37 am, Greg Darke  wrote:
> In the recent 1.5.5 release we added a feature to allow just this
> behaviour.
> If you pass the new module level constant DEFAULT_APP_VERSION as value
> for the target parameter the task will be enqueued on the default
> version of your application.
>
> You can use it as follows:
>
> from google.appengine.api import taskqueue
>
> task = taskqueue.Task(url='/', target=taskqueue.DEFAULT_APP_VERSION)
> taskqueue.Queue().add(task)
>
> # Or the following one-liner:
> taskqueue.add(url='/', target=taskqueue.DEFAULT_APP_VERSION)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 03:47:07AM -0700, db.User('someone') wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I  have a task running on backend, which needs to schedule another
> > task to be run on frontend.
>
> > Can this be done?
>
> > Just omitting the 'target' param creates tasks which still run on the
> > backend.
>
> > (I'm using taskqueue API with the default push queue)
>
> > Thanks!
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[google-appengine] Re: App Engine SDK 1.5.5 released!

[Ice13ill]

A question related to URL fetch deadline: using the methods
setConnectTimeout(0) and setReadTimeout(0) will enable maximum
deadline of 60 seconds ? Or do I have to update an .xml config file ?
(I tried setting connectTimeout to 0  but the deadline remained at 10
seconds)


On Oct 13, 2:24 am, Steve Sherrie  wrote:
> The 2.7 specific libraries do not seem to be included in the SDK as yet,
> but you can just download them yourself and put them in the root SDK
> directory, which is by default added to sys.path.
>
> Steve
>
> On 11-10-12 03:09 AM, Claudiu Apetrei wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > Downloaded the 1.5.5.
>
> > When i do the python2.7 example I get  " > 'exceptions.ImportError'>: No module named webapp2 ", Shouldn't
> > "import webapp2" work on 1.5.5 development server ("python2.7
> > ../google_appengine/dev_appserver.py ./").
>
> > If I upload it to appengine, the application works.
>
> > 10x,
> > Claudiu
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Re: [google-appengine] SQL Support and Wordpress

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

Chris Schalk was fiddling around with Quercus and SQL for a bit. He got
pretty close. I don't know if WordPress will work. Doesn't WordPress use the
filesystem?

Off topic: this led to an argument between me and him about the usefulness
of JNDI (me: "not very").

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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:

> Because I’m too lazy to dive in, has anyone with access to the SQL bits
> tried doing a WordPress deployment using PHP on Java?
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Activation

[Ernesto Oltra]

El formulario para pedirlo está aqui:
  https://appengine.google.com/waitlist/sms_issues

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[google-appengine] Best to use on app engine- Java or Python (newbie!!)

[Brian Williams]

Hi. 
Have posted on here before  trying to get some one elses code working and 
have been unable to understand it completely. So am biting the bullet and 
considering creating program i require myself. 
Question is which language to use. Bearing in mind I am new to both and 
going to start to work with Eclipse soon. 

The job i need app engine to do is to receive information from a smart phone 
app (currently andriod built with app inventor) and email information to 
recipient securely then delete and stored information. I also need to create 
a database which the phone apps can query and update/ pull information from.

As the project feels like an evolving creature I hatched from an egg I want 
to understand everything it does as much as possible. 

Has anyone out there got any good advice for me please? 

Thank you. 

Brian

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Re: [google-appengine] Best to use on app engine- Java or Python (newbie!!)

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

If you are new to both, Python is probably easier to learn. Java as a
language is easy to learn, but many of the interfaces for IO, servlets, XML
configs and libraries can be very newbie unfriendly.

What languages and frameworks do you have experience in? That'd be a much
better starting point for us to make a recommendation.

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Brian Williams <
tribblehunter2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
> Have posted on here before  trying to get some one elses code working and
> have been unable to understand it completely. So am biting the bullet and
> considering creating program i require myself.
> Question is which language to use. Bearing in mind I am new to both and
> going to start to work with Eclipse soon.
>
> The job i need app engine to do is to receive information from a smart
> phone app (currently andriod built with app inventor) and email information
> to recipient securely then delete and stored information. I also need to
> create a database which the phone apps can query and update/ pull
> information from.
>
> As the project feels like an evolving creature I hatched from an egg I want
> to understand everything it does as much as possible.
>
> Has anyone out there got any good advice for me please?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Best to use on app engine- Java or Python (newbie!!)

[Brian Williams]

In reality none. My background is Marine and electrical engineering. But 
reading the principles of python and java all makes sense to me. 

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RE: [google-appengine] SQL Support and Wordpress

[Brandon Wirtz]

Wordpress uses the Filesystem for some config files, which could be fixed
pretty easily.  And images in posts.but you could put them somewhere via FTP
rather than with the WP upload interface. 

 

In theory. It ought to be like 100 lines of code to change.   

 

Combined with my Page Level Caching solution it would scale like a MoFo, But
I don't have a good use case, since with my PLC a $9 a month Dreamhost
account scales like a MoFo too :-)  

 

Sorry to cause turmoil in your office.  In the future, just say. Oracle
Hacks are never a good idea.  Then walk away.. Or if you want to truly "win"
the fight. "Really? We are going to implement something Oracle came up with?
I thought we learned our lesson on Android about why that is a bad idea."

 

 

 

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To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] SQL Support and Wordpress

 

Chris Schalk was fiddling around with Quercus and SQL for a bit. He got
pretty close. I don't know if WordPress will work. Doesn't WordPress use the
filesystem?

 

Off topic: this led to an argument between me and him about the usefulness
of JNDI (me: "not very").




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Because I'm too lazy to dive in, has anyone with access to the SQL bits
tried doing a WordPress deployment using PHP on Java?

 

 

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[google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?

[Jason Collins]

I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M
datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68.

I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD.

Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around
$1.39 (or roughly double).

Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of
writes?

If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to "be the same as M-S"
to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate.

It could be that there's something else I'm not considering...

j

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Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?

[Alfred Fuller]

There is no difference between M/S and HRD with regards to write ops (i.e.
given the same input, M/S and HRD report the exact same amount of writes).
Something else must be different (traffic, existing entity values, etc).

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins
wrote:

> I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M
> datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68.
>
> I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD.
>
> Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around
> $1.39 (or roughly double).
>
> Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of
> writes?
>
> If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to "be the same as M-S"
> to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate.
>
> It could be that there's something else I'm not considering...
>
> j
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[google-appengine] Re: Please help me how to move my data to the cloud

[Greg]

Please post the error message you get when you press the calculate
button. You can find this in the log, which is in the admin dashboard.

Without this information, no-one can help you.

Cheers
Greg.

On Oct 15, 7:05 am, Nandar Wai Yee  wrote:
> Hello Masters,
>
> I want a solution for my problem
>
>              The problem is that ..how to move my data to the cloud.
>               I built an application.
>               It is ok in local ...no errorit can show the result
> without any difficulty.
>               But  after i deployed my application to the web,  my
> application can't work well as in local.
>               I mean, when i put an input to the  input box, then i pressed
> calculate button, the result cannot be shown.
>               How can i change which part of the code and where?
>               I am waiting forward ur reply.
>
> with best regards,

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[google-appengine] Re: Best to use on app engine- Java or Python (newbie!!)

[Greg]

I'm sure java developers will disagree, but having used both I find
python simpler and more pleasurable.

Another factor is performance. I'm not sure if anyone has done side-by-
side tests, but my impression from the mailing lists is that python
runs faster on Appengine. If this is a big consideration, you should
probably also look at the Go option.

Cheers
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[google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

[Jason Collins]

I'll keep looking, but it's weird because that app was consistently
within 1 penny day-to-day before, and its consistently within 1 penny
day-to-day now - it's just exactly double the overall cost...

j

On Oct 18, 2:46 pm, Alfred Fuller 
wrote:
> There is no difference between M/S and HRD with regards to write ops (i.e.
> given the same input, M/S and HRD report the exact same amount of writes).
> Something else must be different (traffic, existing entity values, etc).
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M
> > datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68.
>
> > I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD.
>
> > Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around
> > $1.39 (or roughly double).
>
> > Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of
> > writes?
>
> > If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to "be the same as M-S"
> > to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate.
>
> > It could be that there's something else I'm not considering...
>
> > j
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RE: [google-appengine] Best to use on app engine- Java or Python (newbie!!)

[Brandon Wirtz]

If you have never done coding before, I would vote for python.

 

For me atleast the Elcipse IDE is a Pain in the butt.  Python, I edit little
files in Notepad++ and run AppCFG.Py and my app does it's thing.

 

With Eclipse it is constantly complaining that a file got update, or I
didn't put a library somewhere, and the dumb thing constantly wants to
update itself to versions that aren't compatible with GAE.  

 

But I like MS-DOS, and Notepad++ which may not make me a typical user.

 

-Brandon

 

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To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: [google-appengine] Best to use on app engine- Java or Python
(newbie!!)

 

Hi. 
Have posted on here before  trying to get some one elses code working and
have been unable to understand it completely. So am biting the bullet and
considering creating program i require myself. 
Question is which language to use. Bearing in mind I am new to both and
going to start to work with Eclipse soon. 

The job i need app engine to do is to receive information from a smart phone
app (currently andriod built with app inventor) and email information to
recipient securely then delete and stored information. I also need to create
a database which the phone apps can query and update/ pull information from.

As the project feels like an evolving creature I hatched from an egg I want
to understand everything it does as much as possible. 

Has anyone out there got any good advice for me please? 

Thank you. 

Brian

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Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?

[Will]

Jason,

Where is the automatic migration tool? I looked all places but
couldn't find it. Is it the "Copy to Another App" button on the
"Datastore Admin" page?

Thanks,

Will

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins
 wrote:
> I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M
> datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68.
>
> I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD.
>
> Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around
> $1.39 (or roughly double).
>
> Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of
> writes?
>
> If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to "be the same as M-S"
> to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate.
>
> It could be that there's something else I'm not considering...
>
> j
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[google-appengine] Re: Best to use on app engine- Java or Python (newbie!!)

[Tapir]

I'm using java, but I prefer to python now, for the "Warmup Requests"
problem is less serious for python apps.

On Oct 19, 2:13 am, Brian Williams 
wrote:
> Hi.
> Have posted on here before  trying to get some one elses code working and
> have been unable to understand it completely. So am biting the bullet and
> considering creating program i require myself.
> Question is which language to use. Bearing in mind I am new to both and
> going to start to work with Eclipse soon.
>
> The job i need app engine to do is to receive information from a smart phone
> app (currently andriod built with app inventor) and email information to
> recipient securely then delete and stored information. I also need to create
> a database which the phone apps can query and update/ pull information from.
>
> As the project feels like an evolving creature I hatched from an egg I want
> to understand everything it does as much as possible.
>
> Has anyone out there got any good advice for me please?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Brian

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Re: [google-appengine] Moving existing application to another domain

[Amy Unruh]

Bart,

An app can be mapped to more than one managed domain at the same time.  You
should be able to map the app to your new domain using the same process
(after which the app will be served to both domains), then unmap the old
domain.

 -Amy

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Bart Prokop  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have my application running in a domain managed by Google Apps. Is
> there any way of moving entire application (including datastore, etc.)
> from one domain managed by Google Apps to another? The reason is that
> this application will be managed by another company and we need to
> left current domain in old company.
>
> Bart
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine SDK 1.5.5 released!

[Amy Unruh]

Setting the timeout explicitly to 60 seconds (not 0) should have the desired
result.

 -Amy

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Ice13ill  wrote:

> A question related to URL fetch deadline: using the methods
> setConnectTimeout(0) and setReadTimeout(0) will enable maximum
> deadline of 60 seconds ? Or do I have to update an .xml config file ?
> (I tried setting connectTimeout to 0  but the deadline remained at 10
> seconds)
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2:24 am, Steve Sherrie  wrote:
> > The 2.7 specific libraries do not seem to be included in the SDK as yet,
> > but you can just download them yourself and put them in the root SDK
> > directory, which is by default added to sys.path.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 11-10-12 03:09 AM, Claudiu Apetrei wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > Downloaded the 1.5.5.
> >
> > > When i do the python2.7 example I get  " > > 'exceptions.ImportError'>: No module named webapp2 ", Shouldn't
> > > "import webapp2" work on 1.5.5 development server ("python2.7
> > > ../google_appengine/dev_appserver.py ./").
> >
> > > If I upload it to appengine, the application works.
> >
> > > 10x,
> > > Claudiu
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[google-appengine] Python client for the channels API ?

[Emlyn]

This might sound really weird, but it seems to me that the Channels
would make a great interprocess communications mechanism for
AppEngine, especially if you're running multiple long lived tasks in
backends. Is there any way to consume channels (ie: a channels client)
in AppEngine Python?

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[google-appengine] Re: App Engine SDK 1.5.5 released!

[Alexander M]

Does this release include the migration tool for moving the the High
Replication datastore (as was announced in the 1.5.5 pre-release)? If
so, where can I find documentation about using the tool.
Kind Regards
-Alexander

On Oct 11, 5:52 pm, Johan Euphrosine  wrote:
> Oops, here is a better formatted version:
>
> Hey everyone,
> Just wanted to let you all know that App Engine SDK 1.5.5 has been
> released. The official announcement is 
> here:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/10/app-engine-155-sdk-releas...
>
> The full release notes are below:
> App Engine Python SDK - Release Notes
>
> Version 1.5.5
> ===
> - Python 2.7 is now available as an experimental runtime for all
> applications
>  using the High Replication Datastore. To upload your app to the Python 2.7
>  runtime, change the runtime argument in your app.yaml to python27.
> - We have increased the number of files you can upload with your application
>  from 3,000 to 10,000.
> - We have increased the size limit for a single file uploaded to App Engine
> from
>  10MB to 32MB.
> - We have increased the Frontend request deadline from 30 seconds to 60
> seconds.
> - We have increased the online URLFetch maximum deadline from 10 seconds to
> 60
>  seconds. The default deadline remains at 10 seconds. The offline
> maximum deadline
>  for URLFetch remains at 10 minutes.
> - We have increased the URLFetch Post payload from 1MB to 5MB.
> - App Engine now supports Cross Group (XG) transactions with the High
>  Replication Datastore, which allow you to perform transactions across
>  multiple entity groups.
>    http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/transactions.html
> - We have released an experimental API that can write to Google Storage for
>  Developers directly from App Engine.
>    http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/googlestorage/overview.html
> - We have added a graph to the admin console that displays the number of
>  instances for which you will be billed.
> - In the XMPP API, get_presence() is deprecated in favor of using the
> inbound
>  presence handlers documented in
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/xmpp/overview.html#Handl...
> .
> - The Task Queue API 'target' parameter now accepts a new value,
>  taskqueue.DEFAULT_APP_VERSION, which will send the task to the default
>  frontend version, rather than the version or backend where the 'add' method
> is
>  being called.
> - In the URLFetch API, make_fetch_call() now returns an RPC object.
> - Fixed an issue in the Admin Console where the "Run Now" button did not
> work
>  for tasks with a '-' in the name.
> - Fixed an issue where the SDK did not decode Base64 encoded blobs.
> - Fixed an issue to provide a better error message when using the Mail API
> to
>  send email to an invalid user address.
> - Fixed an issue in the SDK where a skip_files entry caused an ImportError
> when
>  the library was located elsewhere in the PYTHONPATH.
> - Fixed an issue in the SDK index viewer where the arrows indicating whether
> a
>  query was ascending or descending were not properly rendered.
> - Fixed an issue where httplib did not support the deadline argument for
>  URLFetch calls.
>    http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2216
> - Fixed an issue where you could not schedule a cron job to run every 100
>  minutes.
>    http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5243
> - Fixed an issue in the SDK where failed tasks retried immediately instead
> of
>  waiting for 30 seconds.
>    http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5587
> - Fixed an issue making it possible to modify request headers using the
> deferred
>  library.
>    http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5861
>
> App Engine Java SDK - Release Notes
>
> Version 1.5.5
> =
> - We have increased the number of files you can upload with your application
> to
>  from 3,000 to 10,000.
> - We have increased the size limit for a single file uploaded to App Engine
> from
>  10MB to 32MB.
> - We have increased the Frontend request deadline from 30 seconds to 60
> seconds.
> - We have increased the online URLFetch maximum deadline from 10 seconds to
> 60
>  seconds. The default deadline remains at 10 seconds. The offline
> maximum deadline
>  for URLFetch remains at 10 minutes.
> - We have increased the URLFetch Post payload from 1MB to 5MB.
> - App Engine now supports Cross Group (XG) transactions with the High
>  Replication Datastore, which allow you to perform transactions across
> multiple
>  entity groups.
>    http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/datastore/transactions.html
> - We have added a graph to the admin console that displays the number of
>  instances for which you will be billed.
> - In the XMPP API, getPresence() is deprecated in favor of using the inbound
>  presence handlers documented in
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/xmpp/overview.html#Handlin...
> .
> - Fixed an 

[google-appengine] Re: HRD Migration and issue with e-mails sent using the old app name

[PK]

Could somebody from Google be kind enough to reply to this?

Thanks

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