[google-appengine] Remove Application

2009-05-04 Thread wim

Hi!

Is it possible te remove an application? or change the unique
identifier?

Thx in advance.
Wim

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[google-appengine] Re: Adding Custom Domain fails with "Invalid Request"

2013-07-28 Thread wim claeys
+1
I'm having the same problem.
1. Application Settings -> Add Domain ...
2. Provide domain and click on 'Add Domain ...'
3 Provide credentials 
4. "invalid request"


Op vrijdag 26 juli 2013 09:45:22 UTC+2 schreef Ryan Swart het volgende:
>
> I've been trying to add a custom domain to my app for the last couple of 
> hours; the domain is an alias of my main Google Apps for Business account. 
> It fails with an "invalid request" error if I sign in with my personal 
> Gmail account, or infinitely redirects to the account selection page if I 
> use my Apps for Business account. 
>
> I managed to add the custom domain from the Apps for Business interface, 
> but this isn't documented in the Google Appengine Docs. What's going on?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Adding Custom Domain fails with "Invalid Request"

2013-08-12 Thread wim claeys
That's correct, the domain is not a Google Apps domain.


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Andrew Jessup  wrote:

> Hi Wim,
>
> You might be seeing this issue if the account you are logged into is not
> an administrator of the Google Apps domain you are trying to associate with
> your App Engine application, or the domain is not a Google Apps domain. Can
> you confirm if this is the case?
>
> On Sunday, 28 July 2013 05:26:01 UTC-7, wim claeys wrote:
>>
>> +1
>> I'm having the same problem.
>> 1. Application Settings -> Add Domain ...
>> 2. Provide domain and click on 'Add Domain ...'
>> 3 Provide credentials
>> 4. "invalid request"
>>
>>
>> Op vrijdag 26 juli 2013 09:45:22 UTC+2 schreef Ryan Swart het volgende:
>>>
>>> I've been trying to add a custom domain to my app for the last couple of
>>> hours; the domain is an alias of my main Google Apps for Business account.
>>> It fails with an "invalid request" error if I sign in with my personal
>>> Gmail account, or infinitely redirects to the account selection page if I
>>> use my Apps for Business account.
>>>
>>> I managed to add the custom domain from the Apps for Business interface,
>>> but this isn't documented in the Google Appengine Docs. What's going on?
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Joining request

2010-11-06 Thread Wim den Ouden
hi Zuby,
You can add your membership here
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en&pli=1
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Re: [google-appengine] Index stuck in building

2010-11-06 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Rocky,
Sometimes building indexen can take days,
advice from google
use version
when everything is okay set version to default
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> Hi there,
>
> Is there something wrong with the App Engine indexing system?  My app
> has been stuck in "building"
>
> My application id is :Reglrly1
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Re: [google-appengine] Working with Query results

2010-11-10 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Zeynel,
I don't use templates but as a guess i think you use result.mCOUNT
To sort you can read the result in a list and sort on this or maybe
the template engine has a solution for this.
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> Can someone help me understand how to access the results of a query?
>
> This is my model:
>
> class Rep(db.Model):
>    mAUTHOR = db.UserProperty(auto_current_user=True)
>    mUNIQUE = db.StringProperty()
>    mCOUNT = db.IntegerProperty()
>    mDATE = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now=True)
>    mDATE0 = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True)
>    mWEIGHT = db.IntegerProperty()
>
> The app has a textarea form and user submits repetitions. mCOUNT is
> the number of repetitions. I use this query to display top ten reps:
>
> QUERY = Rep.all()
> QUERY.filter("mAUTHOR =", user)
> QUERY.order("-mCOUNT")
> RESULTS = QUERY.fetch(10)
>
> I display the results with Mako template:
>
> % for result in RESULTS:
> ${result.mUNIQUE} (${result.mCOUNT})
> % endfor
>
> Instead of sorting by mCOUNT I want to sort by mWEIGHT so that an old
> item with high count should be lower than a new item with lower count.
> But the precise weighing formula is not important at this point. For
> instance, it may be
>
> mWEIGHT = mDATE * mCOUNT
>
> What I do not understand is, how do I access mDATE and mCOUNT to put
> them in the formula? I am having difficulty, in general, visualizing
> the result of a query. The tutorial
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/creatinggettinganddeletingdata.html#Getting_Entities_Using_a_Query
> says that the query returns "the requested results as a list of model
> instances." What is a "list of model instances?" And how to access
> them as a variables in this context. Thanks for your help.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Working with Query results

2010-11-10 Thread Wim den Ouden
result is not part of datetime.datetime, use (
(datetime.datetime(result.mDATE.toordinal()) * result.mCOUNT)

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Zeynel  wrote:
> On Nov 10, 9:11 am, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
>
>> I don't use templates but as a guess i think you use result.mCOUNT
>
> Ok. So I try something like this:
>
> for result in RESULTS:
>    WEIGHT = (datetime.datetime.result.mDATE.toordinal()) *
> result.mCOUNT
>
> but I get this error:
>
> WEIGHT = (datetime.datetime.result.mDATE.toordinal()) * result.mCOUNT
> AttributeError: type object 'datetime.datetime' has no attribute
> 'result'
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Working with Query results

2010-11-10 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Zeynel,
from the docs http://docs.python.org/library/datetime.html
you can call for example datetime.datetime.day wich returns an integer etc.
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Zeynel  wrote:
> On Nov 10, 9:53 am, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
>> result is not part of datetime.datetime, use (
>> (datetime.datetime(result.mDATE.toordinal()) * result.mCOUNT)
>
> Thanks. But this gives the error:
>
> WEIGHT = datetime.datetime(result.mDATE.toordinal()) * result.mCOUNT
> TypeError: Required argument 'month' (pos 2) not found
>
> In any case, I would like to convert mDATE to integer; I don't think
> toordinal does that.
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Re: [google-appengine] How do you use the development server for testing

2010-11-13 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Zeynel,
Why do you use type(results)?
why not simple results_type = results
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> Hello,
>
> I am doing a lot of testing at this stage of learning App Engine but I
> am having some problems printing something like this:
> ...
> ...
> results = query.fetch(10)
>
> results_type = type(results)
> self.response.out.write(results_type)
>
> prints nothing (and no error message).
>
> If I do
>
> self.response.out.write(results)
>
> it prints the content of the results.
>
> How do you use the development server to debug? Thanks.
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Re: [google-appengine] Novice getting started: advice on getting to grips with App Engine

2010-11-14 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips
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> (last week) learning PHP and SQL until someone pointed me towards app engine
> as a better solution / platform to launch my project. I have no python
> experience, limited html experience and despite going through the app engine
> python tutorial seemed to have 'missed' the keys to getting started.
> I do have programming experience (scientific languages like matlab, labview
> etc.), and spent the last few days working through How To Learn Python The
> Hard Way and have gotten through it alright. But I've got 20 pages left (out
> of 160) and still have no real concept on how to get started. Are there any
> good resources, tips or whatever that you know of to get me up to speed?
> cheers.
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Re: [google-appengine] Too many "Warning: Request was aborted after waiting too long..." under not so high load

2010-11-15 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Will,
Don't now if this helps, the error request is stored in the error log,
from there you can restore you eventual data loss.
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> My site doesn't have too much traffic, but now and then I see this warning:
>
> Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
> request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving cluster is
> under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this message frequently,
> please contact the App Engine team.
>
> Just half an hour ago, I saw one DeadlineExceededError and one
> TransactionFailedError, immediately followed by 5 warnings mentioned above,
> within roughly 30 seconds, when my application was trying to insert some
> text data into datastore, in one plain put().
>
> The load I saw for that particular url was about 13 requests per minute.
> Well, this kind of load shouldn't cause datastore to choke in a way as I've
> seen, in my expectation.
>
> This problem results in data loss in my app and then bad
> customer-experiences.
>
> Should I expect this is the current capability of datastore/GAE? Or are
> there any guidelines for minimizing this problem?
>
> My app id is 'qyingweb'.
>
> Thanks,
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> Will
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Re: [google-appengine] webapp2 Import Error

2010-11-15 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Scot,
Did you python setup install from the map where you unpacked webapp2?
ImportError: No module named webapp2, seems python can't find webapp2
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> Hi,
>
> I'm new to web development, and particularly python development, so
> please forgive any obvious mistakes that I've made. Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> I'm trying to use webapp-improved (http://code.google.com/p/webapp-
> improved/) on my local Windows Vista system. The results I'm getting
> are:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine
> \tools\dev_appserver.py", line 3211, in _HandleRequest
>    self._Dispatch(dispatcher, self.rfile, outfile, env_dict)
>  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine
> \tools\dev_appserver.py", line 3154, in _Dispatch
>    base_env_dict=env_dict)
>  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine
> \tools\dev_appserver.py", line 527, in Dispatch
>    base_env_dict=base_env_dict)
>  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine
> \tools\dev_appserver.py", line 2404, in Dispatch
>    self._module_dict)
>  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine
> \tools\dev_appserver.py", line 2314, in ExecuteCGI
>    reset_modules = exec_script(handler_path, cgi_path, hook)
>  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine
> \tools\dev_appserver.py", line 2210, in ExecuteOrImportScript
>    exec module_code in script_module.__dict__
>  File "C:\Users\slewis\Desktop\helloworld\helloworld.py", line 1, in
> 
>    import webapp2 as webapp
> ImportError: No module named webapp2
>
> My python file looks like:
>
> import webapp2 as webapp
>
> class HelloWorldHandler(webapp.RequestHandler):
>    def get(self):
>        self.response.out.write('Hello, World!')
>
> app = webapp.WSGIApplication([
>    (r'/', HelloWorldHandler),
> ], debug=True)
>
> def main():
>    app.run()
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>    main()
>
> I started development using python 2.7 and got this issue, then from
> reading on this group that 2.5 was preferable, I switched to that, but
> nothing has changed. I was able to run the google app engine tutorial
> without errors, so I believe something is wrong with how I installed
> webapp2. (I uncompressed it in a separate directory, then navigated
> there in the command line and executed 'python setup.py install' and
> there were no errors on the install.)
>
> Again, any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
>
> -Scott-
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Re: [google-appengine] Alternatives to SMS Verification

2010-11-15 Thread Wim den Ouden
https://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/kb/sms.html
look at sms issues
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> I don't have a cell phone - Is it possible to get verification code by any
> other means than SMS ?
> Uisng mail etc?
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Re: [google-appengine] Export application datastore

2010-11-16 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Steve,
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html#Editing_the_Configuration_File
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> user generated reviews. How easy would it be to export this from Google in
> case I wanted to host it elsewhere in the future?
> I'm new to this, so technical ability is quite low for now, but will
> hopefully increase quickly!
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Re: [google-appengine] JSP return binary data

2010-11-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
don't use java but a gues, did you set
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME type audio/mp3
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:33 PM, ZS  wrote:
> I have a small mp3 which I want to return from a JSP
>
> I use response.getOutputStream().write() but unfortunately it seems
> that the container is later calling response.getWriter() so I get
> java.lang.IllegalStateException: STREAM
>
> Any ideas how to allow response.getOutputStream() in a GAE JSP or
> alternatively how to write binary data with response.getWriter()
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Custom Domain

2010-11-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hello Uri,
Sometimes it take days for a public url to become active.
May be this is the case.
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>
> continue:
>
> - Under App Engine I can see the application name and the new domain I have
> recently verified and added, example:
> https://testapp.appspot.com ( this is a secured URL )
> http://www.testapp.com
>
> On my gandi.net I have modified zone file which contains a CName with the
> following details:
> www 10800 IN CNAME ghs.google.com
>
>
> From some reason I can't seem to reach http://www.testapp.com
> I will appreciate any help
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Re: [google-appengine] some questions about the update of the project

2010-11-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
May be this helps?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/189751/google-app-engine-and-404-error

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> I've planned to develop a website for myself with the
> app-engine.Unfortunately, I'm rookie about it.There's a problem I don't know
> how to solve.
> At the beginning, I appcfg a test version to the engine and it work
> well.Yesterday, I modified some pages and the yaml file, then I update the
> whole dir of the project.
> Here comes to the problem:It didn't work anymore, show me 404 instead, while
> there was no problem accessing it at the local end.
> Did anyone get through this before?I would really appreciate it if any of
> you guys share the exciting story with me.
> By the way, I'm a student from China.So, sorry about my poor English.
> Good day~
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Re: [google-appengine] migrate to a new app-id

2010-11-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Liang,
Can't you use taskqueues with urlfetch to fill the new datastore in
the background and allready start with the new app-id. No need to stay
around for 70 hours etc.
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> Due to some branding issue, I have to change my app to use a new app-
> id.
> The way I know is:
> 1. download datastore and upload to the new app-id
> 2. change the app-id in app.yaml.
> Sounds easy. But, since I have over 120 entities in a kind under
> the old app-id. If I use bulkuploader to do the downloading/uploading,
> which does it with a speed of 10 per second, I will need 12 * 2 /
> 3600 = 66 hours. Too long...
> Any suggestion? Is there a way to directly port the datastore to a new
> app-id? Thanks a lot!
> Best,
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: How import datas to BigTable from my local mysql ?

2010-11-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
you can use --use_sqlite with dev_appserver.py

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Joseph Letness  wrote:
> When you use the development server from the SKD, it stores your local
> datastore in a temp file that will get flushed when you restart your
> system (at least on OSX it does).  Add this flag "--datastore_path=/
> path_to_your_datastore.datastore" when you launch your development
> server to create a persistent file for your data.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> On Nov 16, 8:42 pm, YF CAO  wrote:
>> thanks.
>> after close IDE, all test datas disappeared.
>> is it in memory?
>> how to create local BigTable ?
>>
>> 2010/11/16 Robert Kluin 
>>
>>
>>
>> > You've got a few good options.  Check out:
>> >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html
>>
>> > Although, I generally find it easier to write my own 'services' for
>> > importing data.
>>
>> > Robert
>>
>> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 22:31, YF CAO  wrote:
>> > > hi all,
>> > > How import datas to BigTable from my local mysql ?
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Re: [google-appengine] App Engine down again?

2010-11-18 Thread Wim den Ouden
Here its ok https://e-comm.appspot.com/
fast
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Re: [google-appengine] migrate to a new app-id

2010-11-20 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hello Liang,
Wim again,
Forgot to say, if a user ask an entity in the new app wich is not
there yet, get it via urlfetch and delete in the old app-id and save/
show in the new app-id.
Nobody sees the different (may be a little slower tille all entities
are in the new datastore)
gr
wim

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
> Hi Liang,
> Can't you use taskqueues with urlfetch to fill the new datastore in
> the background and allready start with the new app-id. No need to stay
> around for 70 hours etc.
> gr
> wim
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:57 PM, working  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Due to some branding issue, I have to change my app to use a new app-
>> id.
>> The way I know is:
>> 1. download datastore and upload to the new app-id
>> 2. change the app-id in app.yaml.
>> Sounds easy. But, since I have over 120 entities in a kind under
>> the old app-id. If I use bulkuploader to do the downloading/uploading,
>> which does it with a speed of 10 per second, I will need 12 * 2 /
>> 3600 = 66 hours. Too long...
>> Any suggestion? Is there a way to directly port the datastore to a new
>> app-id? Thanks a lot!
>> Best,
>> Liang
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Re: [google-appengine] PDF to Image - Impossible

2010-11-21 Thread Wim den Ouden
Found this, have no experiance with it
http://konryd.blogspot.com/2008/04/outputting-pdfs-with-google-app-engine.html
http://www.reportlab.com/software/opensource/rl-toolkit/
seems to be pure python
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> Hi,
>
> I need to do the following:
>
> 1) User uploads PDF which is stored in blobstore
> 2) Individual pdf pages are rendered as images and shown in the
> browser window
> 3) A barcode identifier image is added to the PDF and is downloaded by
> the user
>
> Sadly due to GAE's restrictions i have absolutely no idea how this can
> be done (without using remote services and data fetching).
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Tables

2010-11-21 Thread Wim den Ouden
example E-business, accounting opensource on appengine
http://e-comm.appspot.com/
http://code.google.com/p/relat/
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> using Google Appengine in Java through JSP. My problem is that Jtable is not
> on the whitelist. Do anyone of you know an alternative way of creating a
> table using java classes accepted by GAEJ? Thanks in advance.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hello Uberto,
Some of my experience till now.
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips
Open real life example.
https://e-comm.appspot.com/
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Uberto Barbini  wrote:
>>> I can post post logs, but really who cares? 10 sec. /1 min. /10 min.
>>> We don't have any control, we don't know which level of service our
>>> application will have. We started one year ago thinking that GAE was
>>> only very young but things are going worse and worse.
>>>
>> disagree strongly, I think it is getting better.
>
> we started to have problems since this summer. Before that we didn't
> notice, maybe we were still too small app.
> In August was still ok, in September and October was a disaster...
> lately it's better.
> This is our skin-feeling, nothing pr
>
>> Well just one of my projects has 18K LOC, + 4.5K LOC in templates.  60+
>> % of the code is generated directly
>> from UML, and I have over 800 current users. Currently about 100,000
>> entities in the datastore and growing about 5K a week, with
>> the current user base. We expect to be at around 5000 users within 6
>> months.
>>
>> I would like to think my application is professional as well.  One of
>> our other applications gets around 7000 unique visitors a day
>
> can you share some links to your application if this is not a problem?
> Just to figure out how to improve ours.
>
>> I just don't share your experience.  We have had problems but nothing
>> like what you are experiencing.
>
> thank you for sharing your experience. I'm very happy to hear this.
> Moving away from gae it would mean lot of work, for sure we hope for
> Google to fix it.
> I'm perfectly ok for the free version of GAE to have such limitations,
> but we cannot make a business with several hours of outage every
> month.
>
>> However, I am using python.  I have been using appengine for over 2
>> years (my first appengine project went live in Aug 2008)
>
> I hope it's not Java fault, the blogger is using python too anyway.
>
>
> cheers
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
Down
Its very fast now.
Are we talking about a different google app engine??
gr
wim (the Netherlands)

2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson :
> It is hard to defend app engine as it is down at the moment.
>
> Viðar
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
>> Hello Uberto,
>> Some of my experience till now.
>> http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips
>> Open real life example.
>> https://e-comm.appspot.com/
>> gr
>> wim
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Uberto Barbini  wrote:
>>>>> I can post post logs, but really who cares? 10 sec. /1 min. /10 min.
>>>>> We don't have any control, we don't know which level of service our
>>>>> application will have. We started one year ago thinking that GAE was
>>>>> only very young but things are going worse and worse.
>>>>>
>>>> disagree strongly, I think it is getting better.
>>>
>>> we started to have problems since this summer. Before that we didn't
>>> notice, maybe we were still too small app.
>>> In August was still ok, in September and October was a disaster...
>>> lately it's better.
>>> This is our skin-feeling, nothing pr
>>>
>>>> Well just one of my projects has 18K LOC, + 4.5K LOC in templates.  60+
>>>> % of the code is generated directly
>>>> from UML, and I have over 800 current users. Currently about 100,000
>>>> entities in the datastore and growing about 5K a week, with
>>>> the current user base. We expect to be at around 5000 users within 6
>>>> months.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to think my application is professional as well.  One of
>>>> our other applications gets around 7000 unique visitors a day
>>>
>>> can you share some links to your application if this is not a problem?
>>> Just to figure out how to improve ours.
>>>
>>>> I just don't share your experience.  We have had problems but nothing
>>>> like what you are experiencing.
>>>
>>> thank you for sharing your experience. I'm very happy to hear this.
>>> Moving away from gae it would mean lot of work, for sure we hope for
>>> Google to fix it.
>>> I'm perfectly ok for the free version of GAE to have such limitations,
>>> but we cannot make a business with several hours of outage every
>>> month.
>>>
>>>> However, I am using python.  I have been using appengine for over 2
>>>> years (my first appengine project went live in Aug 2008)
>>>
>>> I hope it's not Java fault, the blogger is using python too anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Uberto
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
Maybe the internet connection?
no errors here
gr
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2010/11/22 Jaroslav Záruba :
> I'm still getting the 500 Server Error when trying to access console
>
> 2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson 
>>
>> I couldn't access the admin console, but it is back up now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Viðar
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Wim den Ouden 
>> wrote:
>> > Down
>> > Its very fast now.
>> > Are we talking about a different google app engine??
>> > gr
>> > wim (the Netherlands)
>> >
>> > 2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson :
>> >> It is hard to defend app engine as it is down at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> Viðar
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wim den Ouden 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Hello Uberto,
>> >>> Some of my experience till now.
>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips
>> >>> Open real life example.
>> >>> https://e-comm.appspot.com/
>> >>> gr
>> >>> wim
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Uberto Barbini 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> I can post post logs, but really who cares? 10 sec. /1 min. /10
>> >>>>>> min.
>> >>>>>> We don't have any control, we don't know which level of service our
>> >>>>>> application will have. We started one year ago thinking that GAE
>> >>>>>> was
>> >>>>>> only very young but things are going worse and worse.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> disagree strongly, I think it is getting better.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> we started to have problems since this summer. Before that we didn't
>> >>>> notice, maybe we were still too small app.
>> >>>> In August was still ok, in September and October was a disaster...
>> >>>> lately it's better.
>> >>>> This is our skin-feeling, nothing pr
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Well just one of my projects has 18K LOC, + 4.5K LOC in templates.
>> >>>>>  60+
>> >>>>> % of the code is generated directly
>> >>>>> from UML, and I have over 800 current users. Currently about 100,000
>> >>>>> entities in the datastore and growing about 5K a week, with
>> >>>>> the current user base. We expect to be at around 5000 users within 6
>> >>>>> months.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I would like to think my application is professional as well.  One
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>> our other applications gets around 7000 unique visitors a day
>> >>>>
>> >>>> can you share some links to your application if this is not a
>> >>>> problem?
>> >>>> Just to figure out how to improve ours.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I just don't share your experience.  We have had problems but
>> >>>>> nothing
>> >>>>> like what you are experiencing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> thank you for sharing your experience. I'm very happy to hear this.
>> >>>> Moving away from gae it would mean lot of work, for sure we hope for
>> >>>> Google to fix it.
>> >>>> I'm perfectly ok for the free version of GAE to have such
>> >>>> limitations,
>> >>>> but we cannot make a business with several hours of outage every
>> >>>> month.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> However, I am using python.  I have been using appengine for over 2
>> >>>>> years (my first appengine project went live in Aug 2008)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hope it's not Java fault, the blogger is using python too anyway.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cheers
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Uberto
>> >>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
This is my demo site http://e-comm.appspot.com (so you can see its
online and running)
Internet connections are by nature very onstable, per country it also divers.
gr
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
> Maybe the internet connection?
> no errors here
> gr
> wim
>
> 2010/11/22 Jaroslav Záruba :
>> I'm still getting the 500 Server Error when trying to access console
>>
>> 2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson 
>>>
>>> I couldn't access the admin console, but it is back up now.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Viðar
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Wim den Ouden 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Down
>>> > Its very fast now.
>>> > Are we talking about a different google app engine??
>>> > gr
>>> > wim (the Netherlands)
>>> >
>>> > 2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson :
>>> >> It is hard to defend app engine as it is down at the moment.
>>> >>
>>> >> Viðar
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wim den Ouden 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> Hello Uberto,
>>> >>> Some of my experience till now.
>>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips
>>> >>> Open real life example.
>>> >>> https://e-comm.appspot.com/
>>> >>> gr
>>> >>> wim
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Uberto Barbini 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> I can post post logs, but really who cares? 10 sec. /1 min. /10
>>> >>>>>> min.
>>> >>>>>> We don't have any control, we don't know which level of service our
>>> >>>>>> application will have. We started one year ago thinking that GAE
>>> >>>>>> was
>>> >>>>>> only very young but things are going worse and worse.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> disagree strongly, I think it is getting better.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> we started to have problems since this summer. Before that we didn't
>>> >>>> notice, maybe we were still too small app.
>>> >>>> In August was still ok, in September and October was a disaster...
>>> >>>> lately it's better.
>>> >>>> This is our skin-feeling, nothing pr
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Well just one of my projects has 18K LOC, + 4.5K LOC in templates.
>>> >>>>>  60+
>>> >>>>> % of the code is generated directly
>>> >>>>> from UML, and I have over 800 current users. Currently about 100,000
>>> >>>>> entities in the datastore and growing about 5K a week, with
>>> >>>>> the current user base. We expect to be at around 5000 users within 6
>>> >>>>> months.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I would like to think my application is professional as well.  One
>>> >>>>> of
>>> >>>>> our other applications gets around 7000 unique visitors a day
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> can you share some links to your application if this is not a
>>> >>>> problem?
>>> >>>> Just to figure out how to improve ours.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> I just don't share your experience.  We have had problems but
>>> >>>>> nothing
>>> >>>>> like what you are experiencing.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> thank you for sharing your experience. I'm very happy to hear this.
>>> >>>> Moving away from gae it would mean lot of work, for sure we hope for
>>> >>>> Google to fix it.
>>> >>>> I'm perfectly ok for the free version of GAE to have such
>>> >>>> limitations,
>>> >>>> but we cannot make a business with several hours of outage every
>>> >>>> month.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> However, I am using python.  I have been using appengine for over 2
>>> >>>>> years (my first appengine project went live in Aug 2008)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I hope it's not Java fault, the blogger is using python too anyway.
>>> >>>>
>>&g

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
I don't now for sure, data is send in packages, the get message must
be completed read before the answer can send. Google has loads of
multiplexers and message handlers, some messages are handled as close
as possible to your location (static files), datastore actions in
north america, some endup dead (connection for example thru the ocean
fails shortly), what if something seams to send ok but some packages
are timedout?
Thats why i'm trying to keep the get/post messages as short as
possible and test (working on that) if the answer has arrived.
As far as i now this is inherit to distributed computing/programming.
You can't without it to get the best results as possible (the last 1%
is the difficults and without appengine very expensive).
But ofcourse this takes loads of testing and beginning at the start
again and again and learning, so sometimes (deadlines?) there are
frustrated mails is i think part off the game.
This is what i'm trying to optimize.
gr
wim


2010/11/22 Jaroslav Záruba :
> if I had troubled internet connection I wouldn't be getting 500 error _from
> Google servers_ :)
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
>>
>> This is my demo site http://e-comm.appspot.com (so you can see its
>> online and running)
>> Internet connections are by nature very onstable, per country it also
>> divers.
>> gr
>> wim
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Wim den Ouden 
>> wrote:
>> > Maybe the internet connection?
>> > no errors here
>> > gr
>> > wim
>> >
>> > 2010/11/22 Jaroslav Záruba :
>> >> I'm still getting the 500 Server Error when trying to access console
>> >>
>> >> 2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson 
>> >>>
>> >>> I couldn't access the admin console, but it is back up now.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Viðar
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Wim den Ouden 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Down????
>> >>> > Its very fast now.
>> >>> > Are we talking about a different google app engine??
>> >>> > gr
>> >>> > wim (the Netherlands)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2010/11/22 Viðar Svansson :
>> >>> >> It is hard to defend app engine as it is down at the moment.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Viðar
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wim den Ouden
>> >>> >> 
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>> Hello Uberto,
>> >>> >>> Some of my experience till now.
>> >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips
>> >>> >>> Open real life example.
>> >>> >>> https://e-comm.appspot.com/
>> >>> >>> gr
>> >>> >>> wim
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Uberto Barbini
>> >>> >>> 
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>> I can post post logs, but really who cares? 10 sec. /1 min. /10
>> >>> >>>>>> min.
>> >>> >>>>>> We don't have any control, we don't know which level of service
>> >>> >>>>>> our
>> >>> >>>>>> application will have. We started one year ago thinking that
>> >>> >>>>>> GAE
>> >>> >>>>>> was
>> >>> >>>>>> only very young but things are going worse and worse.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> disagree strongly, I think it is getting better.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> we started to have problems since this summer. Before that we
>> >>> >>>> didn't
>> >>> >>>> notice, maybe we were still too small app.
>> >>> >>>> In August was still ok, in September and October was a
>> >>> >>>> disaster...
>> >>> >>>> lately it's better.
>> >>> >>>> This is our skin-feeling, nothing pr
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Well just one of my projects has 18K LOC, + 4.5K LOC in
>> >>> >>>>> templates.
>> >>> >>>>>  60+
>

Re: [google-appengine]"print" problem

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi,
I don't now it we are talking about the same but i use
self.response.out.write with jquery very often
example: http://code.google.com/p/relat/source/browse/trunk/relat/e-comm/home.py
start at line 18 (avoid templates, less libraries to load)
or return from datastore:
http://code.google.com/p/relat/source/browse/trunk/relat/e-comm/home.py line 50
notes example:
http://code.google.com/p/relat/source/browse/trunk/relat/e-comm/app.py
line 200 at the and
To optimize all spaces are deleted
(http://closure-compiler.appspot.com/), you can reverse that to better
read it
gr
wim


2010/11/21 Dariusz Myśliwiec :
> Hi,
> I'm trying to use "print" function, but when I receiving text from it,
> it write me text like that:
>
> "       {               "error": 0,             "url": "http://google.com";    
>   }        Status: 200 OK
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Cache-Control: no-cache
> Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT Content-Length: 0"
>
> I want to parse it by using jquery, but It doesn't working. I think
> it's because of that junk at the end of "print" return:
> Status: 200 OK Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Cache-Control:
> no-cache Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT Content-Length: 0
>
> How to print string without that junk string?
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Re: [google-appengine] 500 error? how to fix it?

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
did you look at your log files in the dashboard?
gr
wim

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Elson  wrote:
> my app meets an error, it means that:
>
>
> 500 server error
>
> Error: Server Error
> The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.
>
> If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this
> error message and the query that caused it.
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>
> how can I fix it?
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Re: [google-appengine] cant deploy new version - The request is invalid for an unspecified reason

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
Did you try appcfg.py rollback, and start again?
gr
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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Ilya Petrov  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I`m getting this error from yesturday:
>
>
> Application: bankaiapp; version: release-0-19.
> Server: appengine.google.com.
> Scanning files on local disk.
> Initiating update.
> Cloning 24 static files.
> Cloning 177 application files.
> Cloned 100 files.
> Uploading 1 files and blobs.
> Uploaded 1 files and blobs
> Precompilation starting.
> Precompilation completed.
> Deploying new version.
> Rolling back the update.
> Error 400: --- begin server output ---
>
> Client Error (400)
> The request is invalid for an unspecified reason.
> --- end server output ---
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Re: [google-appengine] Company website running on GAE is ... gone?

2010-11-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
its there
gr
wim (the Netherlands)

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, dflorey  wrote:
> Our website is running on GAE and worked fine. But now it is gone :-(
> No idea what's going on... is it because I'm not in Germany this week?
> Can someone please check if
> http://www.floreysoft.net
> gives just a blank page?
>
> Every request in the logs gives:
> This request caused a new process to be started for your application,
> and thus caused your application code to be loaded for the first time.
> This request may thus take longer and use more CPU than a typical
> request for your application.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Daniel
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-23 Thread Wim den Ouden
Gae is just a subtitle, it is based on the google api's written in c,
c++, python and the datastore containers all over the world. This
distributed computing, programming model (based on open standards) is
allready one off, or the largest network on the moment.
gr
wim

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Martin Webb  wrote:
> All that GAE needs is someone in these forums to build, launch and run the
> next killa app like twitter. Once that happens people will take the platform
> more than seriously as the app will scale to millions trouble free overnight
> - sending out big signals to developers that app engine is a serious, well
> honed platform for building scalable apps. Lets hope that day comes soon, as
> when it does im sure once the limelight is on - things can only get better.
> Im sure someone somewhere is hard to work on just that.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> Martin Webb
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> From: Tim Hoffman 
> To: Google App Engine 
> Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 8:11:35
> Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!
>
> Hi Adam
>
> Couldn't agree more with your sentiments.  In addition to working on
> fairly significant
> projects with appengine, I run our small business web site on
> appengine as well (www.fishandlily.com.au).
>
> It is really a headache free environment if you get everything
> sorted.  We don't have to
> worry about os upgrades. Server/hardware problems etc... My wife
> manages the content (again
> a small cms for us) and I occasionally make some tweaks to the code
> base.
>
> With agressive use of memcache, we almost never see any of the major
> problems of
> increased datastore latency.
>
> Rgds
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Re: [google-appengine] Too many indexes for datastore_v3.Put?

2010-11-26 Thread Wim den Ouden
Did you read this,
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queriesandindexes.html#Big_Entities_and_Exploding_Indexes
gr
wim

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:01 PM, sahid  wrote:
> Hello All
>
> I'm always investigate why my app has a lot of DeadLineException...
> And i have noticed a interesting stuff
>
> http://i.imgur.com/tngR6.png (an example)
>
> All of my put into a particular model take a big long of time.
>
> This model is my user model, it's very big and have many indexes
> (about 27) and about 35 properties.
> You thinks the problem comes from here?
>
> If it's the case... all of my put into this models is very expensive.
>
> Thank a lots
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Re: [google-appengine] Getting my GAE site indexed on Google

2010-11-27 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://www.google.com/webmasters/
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On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:40 AM, CedarLeaf  wrote:
> Does any one have any pointers on getting my site indexed on Google?
> My site (http://www.cedarleafmusic.com) is a GAE/GWT site for tracking
> music artists and albums.
>
> Since my site is a dynamic GAE web application, it only has one html
> page, but I have added meta tags, submitted it to Google and submitted
> a sitemap to Google Web Master tools.
>
> On the anonymous page prior to login, the static paragraphs are an
> HTML widget added to a vertical panel.  Does anyone know if text in
> widgets can be read by Google's bot or if I would be better off adding
> text directly to the site's HTML page?  Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [google-appengine] terms, conditions and headless app

2010-11-28 Thread Wim den Ouden
One off the things GAE is developed for is to interact with your
refrigerator, robots, cars etc.
gr
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On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:09 AM, blankslate  wrote:
> Hello, I am working on a mobile phone app, and would like to use GAE for the
> "backend".
> There would not be a browser involved, just the phone and GAE.
> Is that acceptable ? would google allow it ?
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Re: [google-appengine] Appengine datastore performance

2010-12-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips#Mapreduce
<http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips#Mapreduce>gr
wim

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:04 PM, nick  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I want to handle about millions of entries in one table. Normally i would
> query over every row and check for my filters (like name="foobar").
>
> Is there a best practise or some stuff to read about to get more
> performance?
>
>
> greets
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Re: [google-appengine] Google App Engine Troubles

2010-12-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
If you don't know what is happening allways look in the dashboard log files.
If you start do tryall and error in the local development server and it is
going to do what you want.
Gae is different so it take some time.
gr
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> Hey guys,
>
> Sorry I am new on this forum but seem to have a recurring issue.  I
> have installed the app engine for python and the indicated python file
> and tried to run the program.  I tested the demo, and it did not seem
> to run.  It would lead to the black screen with the flashing cursor
> with no availability for input and no output.  When I closed the
> scree, it would merely show a yellow triangle with a black exclamation
> point in the center.  I am also a member of the app inventor and have
> been trying to create my own tinywebdb,  but it is impossible because
> everytime i try to load the folder to fun the app engine, the text
> stays gray and will not allow the file to be run or the dashboard
> loaded.  Any assistance is greatly helpful, even if it is the number
> for Google help which i believe does not exist.  Thanks a lot.
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Re: [google-appengine] Appengine datastore performance

2010-12-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
This is a link to what you need for *.yaml and a very simple demo, in the
def (in this example lower_case_posts(entity)) you put the code. Mapreduce
runs (sometimes 20 parallel sessions) thru all entities (no filter possible
yet). First a check if the entity is what you need and then your code.
Mapreduce is now in the standard library.
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-mapreduce/source/browse/#svn/trunk/python/demo
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-mapreduce/wiki/UserGuidePython

(your kind) class Post(db.Model):
  name = db.StringProperty(default="")
  message = db.TextProperty(default="")
  time = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True)


def lower_case_posts(entity):
  entity.message = entity.message.lower()
  yield db_op.Put(entity)


def upper_case_posts(entity):
  entity.message = entity.message.upper()
  yield db_op.Put(entity)
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> wow. nice infos thanks! :-)
>
> if i had millions of log entries stored in one table. (l_entry: title,
> content, date, host)
>
> and now i want to have all log entries where host="myhost" (as a json
> response), how would you design the query? (this would be slow, doenst it?)
>
> (excuse my bad english :-) )
>
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Appengine datastore performance

2010-12-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
forgot to say,
Mapreduce can allso walks (amazing fast) thru zip and text files stored in
blogs and the list is growing.
gr
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On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Wim den Ouden  wrote:

> This is a link to what you need for *.yaml and a very simple demo, in the
> def (in this example lower_case_posts(entity)) you put the code. Mapreduce
> runs (sometimes 20 parallel sessions) thru all entities (no filter possible
> yet). First a check if the entity is what you need and then your code.
> Mapreduce is now in the standard library.
>
> http://code.google.com/p/appengine-mapreduce/source/browse/#svn/trunk/python/demo
> http://code.google.com/p/appengine-mapreduce/wiki/UserGuidePython
>
>  (your kind) class Post(db.Model):
>name = db.StringProperty(default="")
>message = db.TextProperty(default="")
>time = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True)
>
>
>  def lower_case_posts(entity):
>entity.message = entity.message.lower()
>yield db_op.Put(entity)
>
>
>  def upper_case_posts(entity):
>entity.message = entity.message.upper()
>yield db_op.Put(entity)
> gr
> wim
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:34 PM, nick  wrote:
>
>> wow. nice infos thanks! :-)
>>
>> if i had millions of log entries stored in one table. (l_entry: title,
>> content, date, host)
>>
>> and now i want to have all log entries where host="myhost" (as a json
>> response), how would you design the query? (this would be slow, doenst it?)
>>
>> (excuse my bad english :-) )
>>
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Appengine datastore performance

2010-12-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
The splitting proces is mapreduce doing by parallel sessions for you.
There is a control module to start it from your code (normal from a
dashboard), but i don't now yet if the overhead is taken to much time.
There are no docs yet.
In the local development server some libraries are not there, see
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/python25 at the end.
I'am also trying how far it get and where to use it.
gr
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> ive done the mapreduce with hadoop a year ago.
> this is mapreduce thing has many potential
>
> but its very hard for me to understand how to use it with the datastore ;-)
>
> i that right?:
> i setup some "processes" that split the table
> and every process just parses his part
> and then they join the results?
>
> is it modular? could i write my app and if my normal queries are to slow i
> can add the mapreduce part? :-)
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Appengine datastore performance

2010-12-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
This one?
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-mapreduce/wiki/UserGuidePython#Doing_per-row_“reduces”

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Nick Heppner wrote:

> what about:
>
> have a host entry as a parent and his logs as his child?
>
> i just need to write one at a time but i could read very fast every entry
> thats a child of my parent host. does that work?
>
> nick
>
> 2010/12/4 Wim den Ouden 
>
> The splitting proces is mapreduce doing by parallel sessions for you.
>> There is a control module to start it from your code (normal from a
>> dashboard), but i don't now yet if the overhead is taken to much time.
>> There are no docs yet.
>> In the local development server some libraries are not there, see
>> http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/python25 at the end.
>> I'am also trying how far it get and where to use it.
>> gr
>> wim
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, nick  wrote:
>>
>>> ive done the mapreduce with hadoop a year ago.
>>> this is mapreduce thing has many potential
>>>
>>> but its very hard for me to understand how to use it with the datastore
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> i that right?:
>>> i setup some "processes" that split the table
>>> and every process just parses his part
>>> and then they join the results?
>>>
>>> is it modular? could i write my app and if my normal queries are to slow
>>> i can add the mapreduce part? :-)
>>>
>>> greets
>>> nick
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Re: [google-appengine] Appengine datastore performance

2010-12-05 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Nick,
Was playing (and learning) with mapreduce but i'm starting to try to do a
kind of mapreduce myself, flexible, better integrated (
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips#Mapreduce), more possible maybe
a bit slower.
gr
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> no :-)
> i mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgaL6NGpkB8&feature=player_embedded 
> minute
> 17:20
>
> does that work for me?
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Re: [google-appengine] sdk server too slow in 1.4.0

2010-12-10 Thread Wim den Ouden
slower? 1700 entities and lots of queries, after upgrade to 1.4 its looking
even faster (not checked)
maybe there is something with your environment?
i'm running Ubuntu and Python 2.6
gr
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> Granted that the sdk server is painfully slow for even small datasets.
> However, I was stomaching it prior to 1.4.0. I had  a page with 3
> queries (each taking about 2 seconds). Now, after 1.4.0 upgrade
> they're taking appox 6 seconds each, according to app stats.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: sdk server too slow in 1.4.0

2010-12-10 Thread Wim den Ouden
Ubuntu, python2.6, sqlite on aged acer notebook works fast and well, 1700
product entities/images/stocks etc., lots of queries and updates for
test/development.
gr
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> I've considered but if you look a the issue database, there are plenty of 
> known
> bugs<http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list?can=2&q=sqlite&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Stars+Owner+Summary+Log+Component+Language&cells=tiles>in
>  the sqlite implementation. I'm afraid that the real number is even
> higher. I hope someone at app engine team would soon take the plunge to make
> sqlite the default database stub in the sdk. That's the only way all bugs
> will surface up and get fixed
>
> I'm really surprised (more like shocked) how little attention the poor
> performance of the sdk receives. I mean, testing against a few hundred
> entities is unreasonable. This is one of the biggest pain points about dev
> cycle. So many advanced and great stuff in app engine (tasks, deployment,
> etc etc) and the basics, the local dev environment, seriously flawed.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: sdk server too slow in 1.4.0

2010-12-10 Thread Wim den Ouden
Sqlite is allready a few years in python and used by countless people (busy)
sites etc., Gae is not inventing the wheel again (only some classes are
adapt to gae (new inherits)).
Parts of my development is an accounting package, never sees an unexpected
outcome in the figures (local and online, online ones when there was gae
datastore maintenance, now check for that).
On my aged Acer notebook (with python, javascript, google chrome, sqlite) it
is realy fast.
So i'm a very lucky user, developer. (but like Einstein said, keep it simple
but not to simple, it can allways better)
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Re: [google-appengine] Trouble Setting up Billing

2010-12-13 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=AppEngineBillingSupport

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:46 AM, warbea...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've tried to set up billing for my account three times now.  Each
> time, it changes the Billing Status to "Activating" and then after
> half an hour, it changes back to Free.
>
> I have tried two different credit cards, and both exhibited the same
> behavior.  I would greatly appreciate any help with this from the
> Appengine Team.
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> My app ID is voteonwikileaks.
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Re: [google-appengine] Datastore index was stuck in "Building" state.

2010-12-13 Thread Wim den Ouden
sometimes it take longer to build.
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips#Datastore_index

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> Hello,
>
> I think that the we have indexes stuck in building state.
> Can you check and delete all the indexes please?
> The application ID is ysp-core-stg.
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Re: [google-appengine] Storing data from Excel files to db

2010-12-14 Thread Wim den Ouden
have you seen this http://www.python-excel.org/

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>
> I have MS Excel file with data and I want to store data from this file
> to db. Is there any easy way to do this?
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Re: [google-appengine] Domain with versions of App Engine

2010-12-23 Thread Wim den Ouden
are you looking for this
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html look
for version


On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui <
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> Hello all,
>
> I have a question.
>
> I have a domain for my app, he pointing in my default version.
> I would like set a subdomain pointing in a other version of my app.
>
> it is possible? if yes, how :)
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Re: [google-appengine] Domain with versions of App Engine

2010-12-23 Thread Wim den Ouden
hi Sahid,
You can set version in the admin dashboard to use (and delete)
So when you change the version id in app.yaml (can be text) it will not the
default one wich is used on appspot.com.
In admin dashboard you can see your versions and how to use them outside the
default version (url link).
For example if you changed the indexes it is important not to directly
change the default version to the latest because index building can take a
while. When indexes are ready you can change the default version.
Hope this clear some more
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> Sorry but I do not see what you mean? maybe you can help me much?
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Re: [google-appengine] Bulk Email Sending

2011-01-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
there are limitations
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/mail/overview.html#Quotas_and_Limits
<http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/mail/overview.html#Quotas_and_Limits>
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Mail

2011/1/4 Dino Chopins 

> Dear All,
>
> I want to develop application that send emails to several groups of
> our users as notification messages. If one of the groups are about
> 10,000 and I need to notify them, and that they all somewhat received
> the notification at about the same time. Is it possible to do this
> with Google App Engine ?
>
> Note that, the notification message will vary... like a mail merge.
> For example, a message like a "Dear [user]" where [user] will be
> replaced by our user's real name.
>
> Thanks in advance for any response that can give us a clue where we
> will develop further with Google App Engine for this application.
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Re: [google-appengine] Bulk Email Sending

2011-01-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
You need Billing Enabled Default Quota.
*Maximum Rate 5,100 recipients/minute, *7,400,000 recipients maximum per day
*.*
Via taskqueue (count to the quotas) (one mail per task?) app engine is going
parallel.
I have no experience with this kind off mail amounts, a few mails per minute
and taskqueues work good for me.
I read in the mails that taskqueues can sometimes take more time, but for me
tasks are very fast.

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2011/1/4 Wim den Ouden 

> there are limitations
>
> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/mail/overview.html#Quotas_and_Limits
> <http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/mail/overview.html#Quotas_and_Limits>
> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Mail
>
> 2011/1/4 Dino Chopins 
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I want to develop application that send emails to several groups of
>> our users as notification messages. If one of the groups are about
>> 10,000 and I need to notify them, and that they all somewhat received
>> the notification at about the same time. Is it possible to do this
>> with Google App Engine ?
>>
>> Note that, the notification message will vary... like a mail merge.
>> For example, a message like a "Dear [user]" where [user] will be
>> replaced by our user's real name.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any response that can give us a clue where we
>> will develop further with Google App Engine for this application.
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Migrating data to HR

2011-01-07 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hello Sahid,
A lot off data,
Probably you have to write a utility on the new site, when a user
needs data check in the new datastore, not there fetch it from the old
site show it and save it to the new datastore.
For the users there is a little more wait time but there is no offline time.
gr
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2011/1/7 Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui 
>
> Hello!
> I would like migrate my data to an another app  configured with HR
> but the time to migrate data is too much. I need to down my website about 
> 1day...
> (i have try to migrate my data last night (without read only mode) ...the 
> morning i have transferred less than half of part.)
> - It exist a solution to migrate data (about 35giga) to HR without take a too 
> much time?
> - I have saw in my log many error, data transferate are sur?
> Thanks a lot!
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Re: [google-appengine] CSS

2011-01-13 Thread Wim den Ouden
Did you wait for a moment and try it again?
static files are stored on a server near you, app files on the appengine server
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> Dear all,
> I'm building a web site and I'm working with the float tag on my CSS.
> The website is working well offline, but when I deploy it on the appegine
> all the box are in one column in the right (instead of some blocks floating
> on the left and some others on the right).
> Is something I need to know in using CSS for appengine? I can't find
> documentation about this.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Indexes stuck in "Building" state

2011-01-13 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue

2011/1/13 mercies :
> Anyone?  This is for my senior project and I need to make sure it
> works correctly ASAP...
>
> On Jan 11, 8:30 am, mercies  wrote:
>> My indexes are stuck in "Building" state and have been so for a couple
>> of days now.
>>
>> Could someone please clear them out?
>>
>> Also, I know I need to run vacuum_indexes.  My app is written with the
>> Java SDK.  Can I run vacuum from there or do I have to use the python
>> SDK?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Hourly bursts of deadline exceeded errors

2011-01-13 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Dennis,
I only see errors on the moment wich i caused myself.
Haven't seen deadline exceeded errors since end of november.
Using python, jquery and nearly all datastore write via taskqueques.
gr
wim

2011/1/13 Dennis :
> Does anyone know of an appengine app that does a simple appengine
> status check?
> eg: does a simple read and write of the datastore and confirms that
> they worked.
>
> The official appengine system status is "too optimistic".
> I'm looking for something that can tell me: is it my app or appengine
> that is having problems currently.
>
>
>
> On Jan 13, 11:37 pm, master outside  wrote:
>> I have still seen this problem on appid collarcmds at
>> 01-13 12:08AM 36.268
>> 01-12 03:18PM 07.370
>> 01-12 12:06PM 06.998
>>
>> I also see a few additional errors
>> A serious problem was encountered with the process that handled this
>> request, causing it to exit. This is likely to cause a new process to
>> be used for the next request to your application. If you see this
>> message frequently, you may be throwing exceptions during the
>> initialization of your application. (Error code 104)
>>
>> Now there seems to be three places for this problem:
>>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4376-
>> Status:New
>>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4380-
>> Status:Fixed
>>  http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
>> - The main group post
>> Are these all the same issue or do we have more than one problem here?
>>
>> Note I am cross posting this.
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2:54 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hey guys, sorry about the delay getting back to you on this, but I wanted 
>> > to
>> > get the answer before posting.
>>
>> > There was a push made to an hour job that computes quotas. The
>> > push inadvertently locks blocks of data so they cannot be written. In the
>> > short term,  we've changed the job to lock far less frequently, and we are
>> > moving to a model where locks are infrequent or unnecessary.
>>
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>> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
>> > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
>> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>>
>> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Raymond C.  wrote:
>> > > looking forward to reply from google, as least if there is any possible
>> > > solution to tackle this.  It seems to me that this is an issue with 
>> > > Google's
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Re: [google-appengine] building indexes - seems stuck

2011-01-14 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue

2011/1/14 danj :
> Hi,
>
> I have indexes building for about an hour, my dataset is quite small,
> and I think that something is stuck.
> Is there any way to stop the index building process?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [google-appengine] modifying an existing datamodel in the future.

2011-01-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
I'm python but i think it is in java possible too, for exampl. based
on a part of the url load the right database layer module.
To change the google datastore entities you go over all and add or
empty a property (delete), in admin there is an remove all function.
Keep in mind that datastore writes are restricted for master/slave 5
writes, high replication 1 write p/s. Use memcache or taskqueue's to
manage the load.
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> im writing a new app.  currently its a LAMP app, heavy on AJAX, but once
> this prototype is done and running i want to rewrite it as an enterprise
> level application.  im looking at GAE as a back end (more because ive never
> done it before and it looks cool than anything else, free hosting doesn't
> hurt either) but im struggling with the data store stuff.  the biggest
> problem i have so far is changing the data store once its deployed.  here is
> what i understand so far, tell me where im wrong cuz im sure i am
> 1 - create your entity objects (this is java)
> 2 - when deployed, GAE will create the data store based on the entity
> objects in your WAR file.
> 3 - use them with googles app engine sql language.
> now, if i want to change the model
> update your entity objects with your new fields or whatever and deploy.  now
> GAE should maintain the existing data and update the objects.
> or am i completely off base in thinking like a relational database system.
>  is it more as a base relational system that stores blobs and i can store
> whatever i want in them?
> second,
> what if i have a drastic change to the data model that requires some
> translation sql to implement?  is there some kind of screen where i can
> query and update the existing data model manually and translate the data
> into the new model or do i have to do it in the application code.
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Re: [google-appengine] Unindexed property using bulk loader

2011-01-17 Thread Wim den Ouden
in index.yaml remove the unwanted indexen,
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadinganapp.html#Updating_Indexes
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadinganapp.html#Deleting_Unused_Indexes
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2011/1/17 nickiv :
> I am trying to upload some Gigabytes of data to App Engine.
> Unfortunately all fields uploaded with the Bulkloader are indexed and
> I did not find any ware information how I can define property as
> unindexed in Config.yaml. Is that possible? or I have to write my own
> custom bulk loader to workaround it.
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Re: [google-appengine] Dev server with production datastore?

2011-01-25 Thread Wim den Ouden
With appcfg.py download_data you can download your data and restore in
the local dev.

2011/1/25 Peter Liu :
> Anyway to make dev server use production datastore?
>
> It will be nice when designing new html templates (jsp, etc...) with
> real production data. Maybe with read-only to avoid corrupting the
> remote datastore.
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> Anyone tried this? Thanks.
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Re: [google-appengine] Stuck indexes appid steprep-demo

2011-01-26 Thread Wim den Ouden
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2011/1/26 Michael Bree :
> Hello,
> We have indexes stuck in the "Building State" in appid steprep-demo.   Could
> someone could take a look at this... thanks.
> Michael Bree
> VendAsta Technologies
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Re: [google-appengine] Large scale database

2011-01-26 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Michael,
You need to spread the load as much as possible (parallel taskqueues),
keep processor load without extreme spikes.
Datastore writes max to about 4 per second (master/slave), 1 per
second high replication datastore.
When writing the app (triall and error) divide every load as much as
possible in smaller chunks, don't load to much libraries etc. (load
time)
gr
wim

2011/1/26 Michael McClain :
> Hi everybody,
>
>  I am new to Google Apps Engine.
>  I'm interested in using a cloud storage service for a large scale database
> system.
>
>  I have to store billions of keys. Where each key has a 12 bytes value.
>  During query time I need to perfome one thousand simultaneous queries to
> retrieve 5000 thousand keys for each query. So I need to retrieve
> 5000*1000*12 bytes = 60 megabytes each time my application is run.
>
>  I would like to understand if this is feasible using Google Datastore.
>  What would be the latency in performing one thousand simultaneous queries?
>
>  Is there a Google representative that could assist me in understanding if
> my app is feasible for deployment in Google Datastore?
>  I'm interested in Google Datastore because it can scale usage growth and
> peak time traffic.
>
> Thank you,
> Michael
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Large scale database

2011-01-27 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Michael,
You have to do some test with your data to figure it out.
I have small entities but use transactions (no groups), to save i
havely use taskqueues and tune how often they run per minute to keep
inside the quota.
With http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/tools/appstats.html
you can see how it is going
gr
wim

2011/1/26 Michael McClain :
> So I can only insert 4 items per second in the database?
>
> I need to insert 1000 items simultaneously for each new document I'm
> inserting in the system...
> Is there a way to do this?
>
> Thank you,
> Michael
>
> On Jan 26, 5:36 pm, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> You need to spread the load as much as possible (parallel taskqueues),
>> keep processor load without extreme spikes.
>> Datastore writes max to about 4 per second (master/slave), 1 per
>> second high replication datastore.
>> When writing the app (triall and error) divide every load as much as
>> possible in smaller chunks, don't load to much libraries etc. (load
>> time)
>> gr
>> wim
>>
>> 2011/1/26 Michael McClain :
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi everybody,
>>
>> >  I am new to Google Apps Engine.
>> >  I'm interested in using a cloud storage service for a large scale database
>> > system.
>>
>> >  I have to store billions of keys. Where each key has a 12 bytes value.
>> >  During query time I need to perfome one thousand simultaneous queries to
>> > retrieve 5000 thousand keys for each query. So I need to retrieve
>> > 5000*1000*12 bytes = 60 megabytes each time my application is run.
>>
>> >  I would like to understand if this is feasible using Google Datastore.
>> >  What would be the latency in performing one thousand simultaneous queries?
>>
>> >  Is there a Google representative that could assist me in understanding if
>> > my app is feasible for deployment in Google Datastore?
>> >  I'm interested in Google Datastore because it can scale usage growth and
>> > peak time traffic.
>>
>> > Thank you,
>> > Michael
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] I can't access my app from my computer. Google "unusual traffic" error message.

2011-01-27 Thread Wim den Ouden
Had the same, next day it was gone
gr
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2011/1/27 Albert :
> I try to access my app from my computer a few minutes ago. This error
> message appears. I'm assuming it's fine when accessed from somewhere
> else.
>
> 
> Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network.
> Please try your request again later. Why did this happen?
>
> This page appears when Google automatically detects requests coming
> from your computer network which appear to be in violation of the
> Terms of Service. The block will expire shortly after those requests
> stop.
>
> This traffic may have been sent by malicious software, a browser plug-
> in, or a script that sends automated requests. If you share your
> network connection, ask your administrator for help — a different
> computer using the same IP address may be responsible. Learn more
>
> Sometimes you may see this page if you are using advanced terms that
> robots are known to use, or sending requests very quickly.
>
> 
>
> I was busy testing the API I'm developing (on my app), when this
> suddenly came up.
>
> I've been constantly developing and testing my app for a few months
> already, and this only happened today. So I'm not sure what happened.
> Should I be worried?
>
> And another thing, does this mean that google implements some sort of
> automatic DOS protection on AppEngine apps? I always assumed that we
> had to manually set this up ourselves.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [google-appengine] Large scale database

2011-01-27 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Michael,
With small entities and without transactions, groups, high replication
etc. you can save much more entities p/s
from Nick Johnson (google)
batch put, also delete

updated = []
for entity in MyModel.all().filter("color =",
old_favorite).fetch(100):
  entity.color = new_favorite
  updated.append(entity)
db.put(updated)

gr
wim

2011/1/26 Michael McClain :
> Hi everybody,
>
>  I am new to Google Apps Engine.
>  I'm interested in using a cloud storage service for a large scale database
> system.
>
>  I have to store billions of keys. Where each key has a 12 bytes value.
>  During query time I need to perfome one thousand simultaneous queries to
> retrieve 5000 thousand keys for each query. So I need to retrieve
> 5000*1000*12 bytes = 60 megabytes each time my application is run.
>
>  I would like to understand if this is feasible using Google Datastore.
>  What would be the latency in performing one thousand simultaneous queries?
>
>  Is there a Google representative that could assist me in understanding if
> my app is feasible for deployment in Google Datastore?
>  I'm interested in Google Datastore because it can scale usage growth and
> peak time traffic.
>
> Thank you,
> Michael
>
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Re: [google-appengine] How do I enable monthly fee on my webapp? (GAE two interfaces)

2011-01-30 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi,
A userbase kind with nickname (from
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/users/userclass.html),
Boolean property (from
http://code.google.com/intl/nl/appengine/docs/python/datastore/entities.html#Properties_and_Value_Types)
premium and property payed (from paypal etc)
The content is generated based on userbase premium, payed.
gr
wim

2011/1/30 Brandon Wirtz :
> I decided on Chron to fetch a license check against a subscription service.
> This works well if you don't distribute the code and deploy as a developer
> on their App Hosting.  Doesn't work if you share the source code.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jmlevick
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:00 AM
> To: Google App Engine
> Subject: [google-appengine] How do I enable monthly fee on my webapp? (GAE
> two interfaces)
>
> Hi, I have an App Engine web application (based on python) in wich one I
> would like to offer a "Free" Version and a "Premium" one. I would like to
> charge a monthly fee to the users that want to use the Premium version of
> the app, blocking access to premium features to the free users, just as
> Grooveshark Do. wich is the Best way to do this when you're using Google App
> Engine for developing? I mean, I know that Paypal let you to charge a
> monthly fee to users but, How can I restrict acess between the two
> interfaces? I'm really lost in this field, Never made a "Paid Model App"
> before,
>
> Thanks for the help!
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Re: [google-appengine] Bulkloading CSV data to app engine datastore

2011-01-31 Thread Wim den Ouden
On my system (ubuntu) from within the map where the app lives (also
its generated there)
wim

2011/1/30 Philippe REGALL :
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to upload a simple CSV file (2 column: tag, value, 7000
> lines) into my datastore google app engine using the bulkloader.
> I read the topic at: 
> http://code.google.com/intl/fr-FR/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html
>
> My questions are :
>
> - how and where to use the python command "create_bulkloader_config --
> filename=bulkloader.yaml" ?
> => In python command line ?
> => In my main.py and then deploy ?
>
> - where do I get the file bulkloader.yaml" generated ?
> => on my local disc ? on the api remote path ? how to catch it ?
>
> This is certainly basic questions but I am not a python programmer, I
> need a step by step explanation.
>
> I am a Google App inventor user who set up a customtinywebdb serivce
> using the code provided at
> http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/reference/other/tinywebdb.html.
> I use Google app engine launcher, Python 2.7 on Windows.
>
> Thanks in advance ! (I am blocked at this point of my development).
>
> Philippe REGALL
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Re: [google-appengine] Bulkloading CSV data to app engine datastore

2011-01-31 Thread Wim den Ouden
I see now that you use python 2.7, google advise is python 2.5, 2.7
can give strange problems.
wim

2011/1/30 Philippe REGALL :
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to upload a simple CSV file (2 column: tag, value, 7000
> lines) into my datastore google app engine using the bulkloader.
> I read the topic at: 
> http://code.google.com/intl/fr-FR/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html
>
> My questions are :
>
> - how and where to use the python command "create_bulkloader_config --
> filename=bulkloader.yaml" ?
> => In python command line ?
> => In my main.py and then deploy ?
>
> - where do I get the file bulkloader.yaml" generated ?
> => on my local disc ? on the api remote path ? how to catch it ?
>
> This is certainly basic questions but I am not a python programmer, I
> need a step by step explanation.
>
> I am a Google App inventor user who set up a customtinywebdb serivce
> using the code provided at
> http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/reference/other/tinywebdb.html.
> I use Google app engine launcher, Python 2.7 on Windows.
>
> Thanks in advance ! (I am blocked at this point of my development).
>
> Philippe REGALL
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: sms validation requested

2011-01-31 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/10ed2bc2fe9f7b8b

2011/1/28 Charles Rojo :
> Hello. I am trying to create an app on Google App Engine, but I am
> having a similar issue. When I click Create Application, it asks me to
> verify my account. I enter my phone number details (Verizon), but the
> SMS never comes through. I must have done so about 4 or 5 times. Now
> it reads "The phone number has been sent too many messages or has
> already been used to confirm an account."  Is anyone else having
> similar problems on Verizon?
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Re: [google-appengine] Considering using Google Accounts for authentication. Good idea?

2011-02-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
google accounts and the user api just works for me, allways there.
wim

2011/2/1 Jeff Schwartz :
> Hi all,
>
> I hope you don't mind me cross posting this to both the gwt and app engine
> groups since I'd really like to get the opinions of users on both platforms.
>
> I'm in the middle of developing a gwt application on app engine. The
> application's security requirements are that non members, meaning those that
> haven't registered, are restricted to viewing only the application's public
> 'page'.
>
> What I developed for authentication is home grown using my own login form,
> client side cookies and a User entity with password and email address stored
> in the application's data store. While my home grown implementation works
> perfectly I am not comfortable with the security implications of cookies and
> passing raw passwords to the server to authenticate my users. I also can not
> use SSL at this time as financial constraints unfortunately prohibit any
> expenditures on this project.
>
> As I place my users' privacy and security above all else I am therefore
> looking to implement a better solution; one that would if possible eliminate
> my responsibility altogether of having to store cookies and passwords and
> transport them via HTTP when authenticating.
>
> One alternative that I am currently considering is using Google Accounts to
> authenticate my users along with my own User entity that would store the
> additional information users must provide when registering to use the
> services of my application. My User entity (not to be confused with the User
> object provided by the User API) would store the user's Google Account ID
> and would provide the ability to determine if a user is registered simply by
> querying for their Google Accounts ID in my datastore. It would eliminate
> having to store client side cookies and sending raw passwords to the server.
> So far it seems like a win-win proposition as it appears to satisfy all my
> use cases.
>
> For those who already use Google Accounts for user authentication are you
> happy with the service? How about the services' availability track record
> and does it provide the security you had hoped it would?
>
> For those using Google Accounts along with GWT have you found any specific
> issues related to using it with GWT (I am using RPC BTW) that you can
> relate?
>
> I am looking forward to reading your feedback and responses and thanks in
> advance.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Considering using Google Accounts for authentication. Good idea?

2011-02-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
python + jquery

2011/2/1 Jeff Schwartz :
> Are you also using GWT by chance?
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
>>
>> google accounts and the user api just works for me, allways there.
>> wim
>>
>> 2011/2/1 Jeff Schwartz :
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I hope you don't mind me cross posting this to both the gwt and app
>> > engine
>> > groups since I'd really like to get the opinions of users on both
>> > platforms.
>> >
>> > I'm in the middle of developing a gwt application on app engine. The
>> > application's security requirements are that non members, meaning those
>> > that
>> > haven't registered, are restricted to viewing only the application's
>> > public
>> > 'page'.
>> >
>> > What I developed for authentication is home grown using my own login
>> > form,
>> > client side cookies and a User entity with password and email address
>> > stored
>> > in the application's data store. While my home grown implementation
>> > works
>> > perfectly I am not comfortable with the security implications of cookies
>> > and
>> > passing raw passwords to the server to authenticate my users. I also can
>> > not
>> > use SSL at this time as financial constraints unfortunately prohibit any
>> > expenditures on this project.
>> >
>> > As I place my users' privacy and security above all else I am therefore
>> > looking to implement a better solution; one that would if possible
>> > eliminate
>> > my responsibility altogether of having to store cookies and passwords
>> > and
>> > transport them via HTTP when authenticating.
>> >
>> > One alternative that I am currently considering is using Google Accounts
>> > to
>> > authenticate my users along with my own User entity that would store the
>> > additional information users must provide when registering to use the
>> > services of my application. My User entity (not to be confused with the
>> > User
>> > object provided by the User API) would store the user's Google Account
>> > ID
>> > and would provide the ability to determine if a user is registered
>> > simply by
>> > querying for their Google Accounts ID in my datastore. It would
>> > eliminate
>> > having to store client side cookies and sending raw passwords to the
>> > server.
>> > So far it seems like a win-win proposition as it appears to satisfy all
>> > my
>> > use cases.
>> >
>> > For those who already use Google Accounts for user authentication are
>> > you
>> > happy with the service? How about the services' availability track
>> > record
>> > and does it provide the security you had hoped it would?
>> >
>> > For those using Google Accounts along with GWT have you found any
>> > specific
>> > issues related to using it with GWT (I am using RPC BTW) that you can
>> > relate?
>> >
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>> > in
>> > advance.
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Re: [google-appengine] Inequality Filters on a date and a number

2011-02-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
with the help of the cursor (all items, while loop) select on more
than x_items, within the loop check if after some_input_date, append
for example to python list or javascript array, when the loop is ready
show the list.
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> Hi,
>
> Am trying to query my Google App Engine datastore [Python], which has
> a item_name, manufacturing_date and number_of_items_shipped.
> The scenario:
> Get all the item_names which has been shipped more than x_items [user
> input] and manufactured after some_input_date [user input].
> Basically, kind of inventory check.
>
> But due to restrictions on queries in GAE, am not able to do this.
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queries.html#Restrictions_on_Queries
>
> I tried searching on the internet for this issue. But, no luck till
> now. Did you come across this issue, if so, were you able to resolve
> this? Please let me know.
>
> Also in Google I/O 2010, "Next Gen Queries" [http://www.youtube.com/
> watch?v=ofhEyDBpngM#t=3m17s], Alfred Fuller mentioned that they are
> going to remove this restriction soon. Its been more than 8 months,
> but this restriction is in place even now. Makes life very difficult.
>
> Appreciate if anyone can post an answer if they were able to
> circumvent this restriciton.
> Thanks a lot.
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Re: [google-appengine] Inequality Filters on a date and a number

2011-02-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
no, no, first the query on is item_names and more than x_items,
then a loop on the result from this query (for items in resultquery:)
if some_input_date > date: append to list
when ready show list

you can play with fetch(..) to get optimum speed and cpu usage.
ofcourse not a top solution, but it works till??
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2011/2/1 Jeff Schwartz :
> This would require 2 inequality filters so no luck.
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Prashanth  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am trying to query my Google App Engine datastore [Python], which has
>> a item_name, manufacturing_date and number_of_items_shipped.
>> The scenario:
>> Get all the item_names which has been shipped more than x_items [user
>> input] and manufactured after some_input_date [user input].
>> Basically, kind of inventory check.
>>
>> But due to restrictions on queries in GAE, am not able to do this.
>>
>> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queries.html#Restrictions_on_Queries
>>
>> I tried searching on the internet for this issue. But, no luck till
>> now. Did you come across this issue, if so, were you able to resolve
>> this? Please let me know.
>>
>> Also in Google I/O 2010, "Next Gen Queries" [http://www.youtube.com/
>> watch?v=ofhEyDBpngM#t=3m17s], Alfred Fuller mentioned that they are
>> going to remove this restriction soon. Its been more than 8 months,
>> but this restriction is in place even now. Makes life very difficult.
>>
>> Appreciate if anyone can post an answer if they were able to
>> circumvent this restriciton.
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Prashanth.
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Re: [google-appengine] High Replication - Large CPU spikes without Datastore Access

2011-02-08 Thread Wim den Ouden
I'm tuning for the hr.
update entities are fast
entities with 3 properties add, delete 149ms 101cpu_ms 84api_cpu_ms
(tested over more days)
entities with 25 properties
http://code.google.com/p/relat/source/browse/trunk/relat/e-comm/contactmodel.py
add, delete 1825cpu_ms 1807api_cpu_ms (tested over more days)
it also depend on what properties
http://code.google.com/p/relat/source/browse/trunk/relat/e-comm/journmodel.py
2160cpu_ms 2142api_cpu_ms (tested over more days)
i have taken out the properties which are not necessary at the moment.
(into new kinds)
All cud actions are done by taskqueque
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> I've already posted this on the Java GAE group, but maybe someone has
> seen this issue on a Python-hosted app.
>
> I'm carrying out some testing of my app against the HR-store, instead
> of the M/S datastore, and I've noticed that occasionally I'll get a
> request which has a massive CPU spike.  These spikes consume
> ~30-40seconds of CPU time, when my usual request times are ~500ms.
> I'd assumed that something must be fundamentally wrong with my
> application against the HR datastore, but I've now had three requests
> to AppStats which have the same problem and one of them was an
> image!
>
> For example:
>
> /appstats/static/app_engine_logo_sm.gif   200   131ms    31811cpu_ms
> <--- Image?!
> /appstats/stats   200 536ms         32375cpu_ms
> /appstats/stats 200 169ms         23878cpu_ms
>
>
> Yesterday I had the request below in my log.  It didn't touch the
> datastore, had 6 calls to MemCache and according to AppStats had a
> grand total time of 125ms.
>
> /user/get 200 156ms     42020cpu_ms
>
> What could cause these large CPU spikes?  They aren't loading
> requests, as I'm correctly getting those marked in my logs and they
> are in the usual region of 2-3s duration. I also don't experience them
> on the same app against the M/S datastore.  My initial thoughts were
> that AppStats was potentially the cause of the problem, until I saw
> the request for a static image with massive CPU usage!
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Re: [google-appengine] High Replication - Large CPU spikes without Datastore Access

2011-02-08 Thread Wim den Ouden
Hi Simon,
I'm glad your mention the subject, to get a spead gain i moved out all
the transaction surrounding where possible before testing the hr
datastore.
But it seems optimized for transactions because it is much faster in a
transaction. After putting all put actions in a transaction the kind
which gives me the biggest spikes (journ) is now 755cpu_ms
718api_cpu_ms (1/3 remaining cpu_ms within a transaction, without
a transaction is much, much more cpu_ms intensive) wow i'm glad. Gona
change everything back!!! (journ has about 10 indexes that is also
part of the speed difference)
I'm using python with jquery on the client, so a lot cpu usage is on
the client, i don't see other difference in use (spikes)
gr
wim

2011/2/8 Simon Knott :
> Just to emphasise, I'm seeing these spikes on requests which don't hit the
> datastore at all, and I don't see the same spikes on the same app with the
> datastore set to M/S.
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Re: [google-appengine] WTF... new SDK and new local datastore ???

2011-02-11 Thread Wim den Ouden
never noticed this, only when you have to backup the hr datastore add s~
to --application.
working with python and 'flat' command line.
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2011/2/11 Matija 

> What is going on ? I have several backups of my local development datastore
> and with every new SDK I need to set every 'preference' data from beginning
> because new SDK doesn't know how to deal with previous sdk datastore file.
>
> Is there way to circumvent this terrible practice ?
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Re: [google-appengine] WTF... new SDK and new local datastore ???

2011-02-12 Thread Wim den Ouden
indicates high replication datastore

2011/2/12 Gopal Patel 

>
> what is this s~ doing there anyway ?
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:21 AM, djidjadji  wrote:
>
>> I had a problem that the python 1.3.8 SDK was unable to write in a
>> 1.3.7 SDK datastore.
>> They must have changed something because SDK 1.4.1 was able to
>> read/write a 1.3.7 SDK datastore.
>>
>> 2011/2/11 Matija Jerković :
>> > I am using java version. I remember that python version didn't break
>> > datastore file on sdk change, but for java version I am not sure if this
>> > happened before.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: everything is down

2011-02-14 Thread Wim den Ouden
Seems ok to me hr datastore

2011/2/14 Girish 

> I am on a Standard Master/Slave
>
> Girish
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Nickolas Daskalou wrote:
>
>> Are you guys on the standard Master/Slave datastore, or the new High
>> Replication datastore?
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On 14 February 2011 19:55, Dmitry  wrote:
>>
>>> yep... constantly datastore timeouts and task errors
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Re: [google-appengine] datastore building indexes which never finish can't be vacuum'ed

2011-02-14 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue

2011/2/14 James Gilliam 

> i have two indexes which are showing building (for days) for entities with
> few instances.  they never stop building.  when i try vacuum_indexes they
> say there are not deleted because they likely do not exist. but, they do
> exist according to the datastore indexes. perhaps they are not deleted
> because they are being built.  how do i stop them from building and/or
> vacuum them up?  not sure if this is related to trying to remove all
> entities from the datastore and jobs which never end either.  i posted on
> that separately.
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Re: [google-appengine] Dynamic creation of zip/tar from series of Blobs

2011-02-22 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/583791/is-it-possible-to-generate-and-return-a-zip-file-with-app-engine

2011/2/22 Ritesh Nadhani 

> So in our site, we allow musicians to create Albums and they upload
> tracks which we are saving as Blob.
>
> Now if the artist allows, we wanted users to download the whole album
> as one .zip file.
>
> Is it possible to create a zip dynamically? In that case, I could save
> the resulting zip as another Blog and just reuse that from next time
> on.
>
> Using Python if that matters.
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Re: [google-appengine] High Replication or Master/Slave?

2011-03-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
Busy site? hr, it remains available for reads and writes during planned
downtime and is extremely resilient in the face of catastrophic failure

2011/3/1 mscwd01 

> I've done my research but still cant fully decide whether to use the
> High Replication or Master/Slave datastore. Hypothetically speaking,
> if my app were to become popular it would require many reads and
> writes (it's an advert serving platform).
>
> I realise the High Replication datastore uses more resources, is
> slower reading and writing and would be more costly, but it does have
> the reliability I need. On the contrary the Master/Slave is faster
> which is important to me.
>
> Basically, what is the opinion of people who have used both in a
> production environment? Should I stick with Master/Slave or make the
> change before it's too late?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: High Replication or Master/Slave?

2011-03-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
google did not invent the hr for fun, with very busy sites it is possible
that ms reads give high latency because it is less replicated then hr. Also
it seems (i'm not sure) there are upcoming changes in the datastore api to
introduce more ascync
https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/document/d/1hJI0Jk4vQMIoyrfqFpWhYODHXBtxpMHHeR2hjQ9NyXY/edit?ndplr=1&pli=1#heading=h.4f9cvg1w9hgn
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your models as simple as possible and use where possible only the properties
mented in this document (faster) (be aware with the reference key)
<https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/document/d/1hJI0Jk4vQMIoyrfqFpWhYODHXBtxpMHHeR2hjQ9NyXY/edit?ndplr=1&pli=1#heading=h.4f9cvg1w9hgn>

2011/3/1 mscwd01 

> Thanks for your feedback, I'm siding towards Master/Slave due to the
> performance and cost advantages it has over HR. Am I right in thinking
> if reliability did become an issue in the future I could just use the
> bulk loader to download and re-upload my data to a new app? I think
> this would be a reasonable plan.
>
> On Mar 1, 12:15 pm, Wim den Ouden  wrote:
> > Busy site? hr, it remains available for reads and writes during planned
> > downtime and is extremely resilient in the face of catastrophic failure
> >
> > 2011/3/1 mscwd01 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I've done my research but still cant fully decide whether to use the
> > > High Replication or Master/Slave datastore. Hypothetically speaking,
> > > if my app were to become popular it would require many reads and
> > > writes (it's an advert serving platform).
> >
> > > I realise the High Replication datastore uses more resources, is
> > > slower reading and writing and would be more costly, but it does have
> > > the reliability I need. On the contrary the Master/Slave is faster
> > > which is important to me.
> >
> > > Basically, what is the opinion of people who have used both in a
> > > production environment? Should I stick with Master/Slave or make the
> > > change before it's too late?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: High Replication or Master/Slave?

2011-03-02 Thread Wim den Ouden
do you use  --application=s~appname

2011/3/2 Tom Wu 

> Hi Ikai,
>
> In this monment, I can't appcfg.py download_data from HR in SDK 1.4.2.
>
> Best Regards
> Tom Wu
>
>
> 2011/3/2 Ikai Lan (Google) 
>
>> I know I'm jumping late on this thread, but I want to push you and other
>> developers in the High Replication direction. We're still working towards
>> being able to provide SLAs, but one thing is almost for certain: application
>> running under master/slave will *not* be supported under any SLA.
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:25 AM, mscwd01  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again guys, this is the type of insight I was after. Those
>>> charts are rather impressive and in complete contradiction to what
>>> I've read elsewhere - the latency seems to be consistently lower.
>>>
>>> I think I'll create a new app using the HR datastore and perform some
>>> tests, I'm hoping my queries do not have to be changed to avoid
>>> returning "stagnant" objects, the docs are rather confusing regarding
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 3:09 pm, bFlood  wrote:
>>> > i think he meant that *interaction* with HR is more consistent (e.g.
>>> > most requests are in a fixed performance range, whereas there are more
>>> > perf spikes with MS).
>>> >
>>> > nice charts guys, those are helpful!
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 1, 9:50 am, Geoffrey Spear  wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Mar 1, 8:18 am, Simon Knott  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > What makes you think HR is slower than M/S?  This is the case for
>>> > > > Puts/Deletes, but for Gets and Querying it's faster and much more
>>> > > > consistent.
>>> >
>>> > > Where do you get "much more consistent" from?  The HR datastore is
>>> > > eventually consistent; the M/S datastore is strongly consistent.
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Attempting to guarantee a write

2011-03-02 Thread Wim den Ouden
I have partially implement this
http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips?ts=1299072151&updated=gaetips#Check_if_data_is_written

2011/3/2 Richard Arrano 

> Hello,
> I was reading the thread regarding wanting to guarantee a put()
> (http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/
> 8280d73d09dc64ee/1cf8c5539155371a?lnk=raot&pli=1) and I've found
> myself desiring to do the same. It seems to me that using the deferred
> task queue with < 10k of data will allow us to guarantee the data to
> be committed at some point in time, regardless of datastore latency/
> availability. The scenario that interests me is when I have some data
> I'd like to make sure gets committed at some later time(when exactly
> doesn't matter), but it must be recorded and accessible in some
> fashion when the user inputs it. I was thinking about using the
> deferred task queue, but the problem is that although it's < 10k of
> data, it will grow as the user inputs more data(they won't be able to
> input everything at once). Could this be solved by retrieving the task
> from the deferred queue and editing its payload. Is this possible to
> do? Is there another solution that will fit what I'm looking to do?
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Why are gets and queries on the HR datastore significantly faster than on the Master/Slave datastore?

2011-03-02 Thread Wim den Ouden
hr is distributed over more boxes, appengine is distributed so more change
to find the data

2011/3/2 Spines 

> Looking at the app engine status page, it seems that gets and queries on
> the HR datastore are consistently faster than on the Master/Slave datastore.
> From comparing the graphs, it looks like HR datastore queries are almost
> twice as fast.
>
> Why is this? Is this something we can expect to continue in the future, or
> is it due to some other reason (eg. not as many people are using the HR
> datastore yet)?
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Re: [google-appengine] Why are gets and queries on the HR datastore significantly faster than on the Master/Slave datastore?

2011-03-02 Thread Wim den Ouden
I want to keep it as simple as possible, dont use groups (no parent). If
needed i make a different search


2011/3/2 Jeff Schwartz 

> Just curios, are you experiencing this better performance for entities only
> within entity groups or otherwise?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Spines  wrote:
>
>> Looking at the app engine status page, it seems that gets and queries on
>> the HR datastore are consistently faster than on the Master/Slave datastore.
>> From comparing the graphs, it looks like HR datastore queries are almost
>> twice as fast.
>>
>> Why is this? Is this something we can expect to continue in the future, or
>> is it due to some other reason (eg. not as many people are using the HR
>> datastore yet)?
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Re: [google-appengine] Please reset my index

2011-03-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue

2011/3/4 Thomas Wiradikusuma 

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> Can you please reset index for my app "lelanggokil-hr"? Thanks in
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: HR Vs. Master-Slave Comparison. Is it worth extra cost?

2011-03-04 Thread Wim den Ouden
+1

2011/3/4 stevep 

> Hi Ikai,
>
> Don't usually comment on threads going in this direction. But noted
> that you seem on edge a bit.
>
> First wanted to say how important your contributions are. I'm sure it
> is hard to be in meetings and then try to provide insights to the
> forum in a manner that keeps Legal happy.
>
> Myself, I am very encouraged by HR -- MS did not seem to be panning
> out.
>
> Cheeers,
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Re: [google-appengine] How can i delete a column from my table from within my app engine account ?

2011-03-09 Thread Wim den Ouden
loop the kind and empty the property

2011/3/10 Daniel 

> Hi
>
> I have no use in a certain column in my table, and i don't need the
> data stored in that table also,
>
> How can I delete this column?
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Bug with online interactive server-side Python shell?

2011-03-11 Thread Wim den Ouden
x = a list
x[2] a tuple
try print x[2] also see http://docs.python.org/tutorial/datastructures.html

2011/3/11 nik 

> Hi, i am new in python programming and i tried to use the online
> Interactive server-side Python shell (http://shell.appspot.com) to
> test the list data type and while it supposed to be changeable, this
> is not the way is treated:
>
> >>> x=[2,5,6]
> >>> x[2]='111'
> >>> print x
> [2, 5, 6]
>
> x[2] wasn't supposed to change? if so then is this a bug of the online
> shell or it is the way that any deployed application in app engine is
> treated?
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Re: [google-appengine] datastore.TimeProperty() sample value

2011-03-11 Thread Wim den Ouden
TIME('*HH:MM:SS*')
copy into your gql string
for date example at the end of
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1162644/gql-query-on-date-equality-in-python

2011/3/11 Chathum Henegama 

> Hi can anyone find me just a sample value for this datatype in GQL.
> what i am trying to do is i have a web-service which accepts a
> datetime.time value and it is not accepting the standard time values
> as documented in here
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/gqlreference.html
> can anyone help me with this..
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Re: [google-appengine] High-level development tools for App Engine?

2011-03-11 Thread Wim den Ouden
maybe some usefull tips http://code.google.com/p/relat/wiki/gaetips

2011/3/10 Mark Spencer 

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> management of our client clinical records.
>
> As there isn't a cost-effective ready-made solution for us, I would like to
> consider developing a solution under the Google Apps Engine, as a possible
> option.
>
> Can anyone suggest a development tool(s) which I could consider for the
> Google Apps Engine whilst I have a software engineering background, I
> would prefer not to have to do too much coding as there is much I currently
> have to focus on in running the business itself. The solution from
> SalesForce (Force.com) is the sort of development level which would be
> manageable for me. I would prefer to use Google Apps to host the solution as
> the integration will likely be tighter, and will also be far more cost
> effective for us.
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Re: [google-appengine] Indexes stuck in 'Building' state for days

2011-03-12 Thread Wim den Ouden
I have read this somewhere
first try: Remove the index from index.yaml, then appcfg.py vacuum_indexes

2011/3/12 Sander Steffann 

> Hi,
>
> I have about 16 indexes stuck in 'Building' state for days now. Vacuum
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> prevent this from happening in the future)?
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Deleting Data Really Expensive!

2011-03-12 Thread Wim den Ouden
there are often changes, i integrated it in the daily processing, if an
entity is ask for do also the changes, if from another datastore first fetch
and save (changed) in the new.

2011/3/11 Jeff Knox 

> If you want to keep costs down but not leave the data spinning around and
> around why not delete a subset every day? It may take an extremely long time
> but at least it would be better than paying storage costs forever.
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Re: [google-appengine] GQL performance slow

2011-03-14 Thread Wim den Ouden
this is the cloud with a lot of hiks between you and the server, get for
about 100 entities (cursor?) start with this and get the next etc.

2011/3/14 adhi 

> Hi, I'm running a query in appengine which is returning just 1200
> entities, but its taking 3.5 seconds. The query doesn't contains
> inequality filters, but anyway I added index for that. Can anyone tell
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Re: [google-appengine] Datastore entity viewing

2011-03-15 Thread Wim den Ouden
the kind (table) only appears when you write to it.

2011/3/15 BonguN 

> Hi,
>
> I have four different entities in my application, but when I access
> the datastore all I see is just one single entity.
> I cleaned my datastore and added a new db file to the folder that has
> my application. When I run my application why don't I see all my
> entities declared in my python code?
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Re: [google-appengine] how to undeploy my app

2011-03-18 Thread Wim den Ouden
admin console
application settings
Disable or Delete Application
2011/3/18 tubin gen 

> I dont need my app for some time , so I want to undeploy the app
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Re: [google-appengine] app engine noob... General questions about the app engine

2011-03-28 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1965622/whats-the-best-way-to-back-up-data-on-google-app-engine
http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/remote_api.html (custom backup)

With pictures etc. try to balance the load (taskqueues, cron jobs)

2011/3/25 ICPooreMan 

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> me and I like what I've seen so far.  There's a couple things I'm
> curious about though.
>
> 1)  Can you and how do you get a backup of the database.  I haven't
> found anything on this subject that looks current.  Can anyone point
> me in the right direction?
>
> 2)  Does the app engine lend itself to hosting a decent amount of
> uploaded images?  I'm planning on building a website where if it ever
> got a large amount of traffic there'd be a good amount of user
> generated content especially pictures.
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Re: [google-appengine] Remote data storage for App Engine

2011-04-01 Thread Wim den Ouden
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/urlfetch/ ?

2011/4/1 Elvin Li 

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