Re: [google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App
Hi, Quote (Eric Kolotyluk eric.ko...@gmail.com wrote) : We have an app we want to develop for our customers, but we essentially want each customer to have their own instance of the app for quotas and billing purposes. Basically, if our customers want the service, they would pay Google directly, rather than us figuring out who uses what and billing our customers. It would also make it easy for our software to automatically create the customer's app on app engine and keep it up-to-date. Quote (Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote) : What you are doing is not being done to avoid incurring fees so it does not violate our terms. We also need to build better support for this sort of thing in the future as a number of people have asked for it. Quote (Gary Frederick g...@jsoft.com wrote) : yep (how we say +1 in Texas) Is there an issue we can star to show we are interested? Yes, there is now a feature request which you can star to show you are interested. Check out : Marketplace for Google App Engine appshttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5821 . Thanks Regards, Raj On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.comwrote: Hey Erik, I think you are referring to this section: 4.4. You may not develop multiple Applications to simulate or act as a single Application or otherwise access the Service in a manner intended to avoid incurring fees. What you are doing is not being done to avoid incurring fees so it does not violate our terms. We also need to build better support for this sort of thing in the future as a number of people have asked for it. Hope that helps! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.comwrote: I'm in the same boat. Google has let me get away with running the same app customized for the user. All of my apps are paid apps running on different domains. I'm all for lobbying to get app reseller accounts where we can markup our services on the billing page. If you come up with a good way to get the billing information by API let me know because I'd like to have a better way to bill clients and generate usage reports. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kolotyluk Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:56 AM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App I remember reading some policy that Google prohibits people people from basically running the same app under different registration. I gather one reason for this is so that people don't exploit the free nature of apps, or so that Google is not replicating essentially the same app everywhere. What ever the reason I don't want to violate Google's policies. We have an app we want to develop for our customers, but we essentially want each customer to have their own instance of the app for quotas and billing purposes. Basically, if our customers want the service, they would pay Google directly, rather than us figuring out who uses what and billing our customers. It would also make it easy for our software to automatically create the customer's app on app engine and keep it up-to-date. An alternative design would be to have some way to invoke a central app, but for service operations and quota have some way to bill things to a specific account. Does Google have any way to do this that does not violate the policies? The alternative for us is setting up a separate account for each customer on either Amazon, Microsoft, or some other cloud, and essentially giving each customer their own VM instance. There are pros and cons to this, as there are with using the Google PAAS, and I am trying to figure out what our best options are. Cheers, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google
Re: [google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App
Hey Erik, I think you are referring to this section: 4.4. You may not develop multiple Applications to simulate or act as a single Application or otherwise access the Service in a manner intended to avoid incurring fees. What you are doing is not being done to avoid incurring fees so it does not violate our terms. We also need to build better support for this sort of thing in the future as a number of people have asked for it. Hope that helps! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: I'm in the same boat. Google has let me get away with running the same app customized for the user. All of my apps are paid apps running on different domains. I'm all for lobbying to get app reseller accounts where we can markup our services on the billing page. If you come up with a good way to get the billing information by API let me know because I'd like to have a better way to bill clients and generate usage reports. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kolotyluk Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:56 AM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App I remember reading some policy that Google prohibits people people from basically running the same app under different registration. I gather one reason for this is so that people don't exploit the free nature of apps, or so that Google is not replicating essentially the same app everywhere. What ever the reason I don't want to violate Google's policies. We have an app we want to develop for our customers, but we essentially want each customer to have their own instance of the app for quotas and billing purposes. Basically, if our customers want the service, they would pay Google directly, rather than us figuring out who uses what and billing our customers. It would also make it easy for our software to automatically create the customer's app on app engine and keep it up-to-date. An alternative design would be to have some way to invoke a central app, but for service operations and quota have some way to bill things to a specific account. Does Google have any way to do this that does not violate the policies? The alternative for us is setting up a separate account for each customer on either Amazon, Microsoft, or some other cloud, and essentially giving each customer their own VM instance. There are pros and cons to this, as there are with using the Google PAAS, and I am trying to figure out what our best options are. Cheers, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App
I remember reading some policy that Google prohibits people people from basically running the same app under different registration. I gather one reason for this is so that people don't exploit the free nature of apps, or so that Google is not replicating essentially the same app everywhere. What ever the reason I don't want to violate Google's policies. We have an app we want to develop for our customers, but we essentially want each customer to have their own instance of the app for quotas and billing purposes. Basically, if our customers want the service, they would pay Google directly, rather than us figuring out who uses what and billing our customers. It would also make it easy for our software to automatically create the customer's app on app engine and keep it up-to-date. An alternative design would be to have some way to invoke a central app, but for service operations and quota have some way to bill things to a specific account. Does Google have any way to do this that does not violate the policies? The alternative for us is setting up a separate account for each customer on either Amazon, Microsoft, or some other cloud, and essentially giving each customer their own VM instance. There are pros and cons to this, as there are with using the Google PAAS, and I am trying to figure out what our best options are. Cheers, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App
I'm in the same boat. Google has let me get away with running the same app customized for the user. All of my apps are paid apps running on different domains. I'm all for lobbying to get app reseller accounts where we can markup our services on the billing page. If you come up with a good way to get the billing information by API let me know because I'd like to have a better way to bill clients and generate usage reports. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kolotyluk Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:56 AM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Multiple Instances of the Same App I remember reading some policy that Google prohibits people people from basically running the same app under different registration. I gather one reason for this is so that people don't exploit the free nature of apps, or so that Google is not replicating essentially the same app everywhere. What ever the reason I don't want to violate Google's policies. We have an app we want to develop for our customers, but we essentially want each customer to have their own instance of the app for quotas and billing purposes. Basically, if our customers want the service, they would pay Google directly, rather than us figuring out who uses what and billing our customers. It would also make it easy for our software to automatically create the customer's app on app engine and keep it up-to-date. An alternative design would be to have some way to invoke a central app, but for service operations and quota have some way to bill things to a specific account. Does Google have any way to do this that does not violate the policies? The alternative for us is setting up a separate account for each customer on either Amazon, Microsoft, or some other cloud, and essentially giving each customer their own VM instance. There are pros and cons to this, as there are with using the Google PAAS, and I am trying to figure out what our best options are. Cheers, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
