[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
hi denis! On Nov 22, 12:54 pm, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object Good. Will this be documented? yup, it already is: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/functions.html#delete What happens is I pass non-existing key? On SDK the non-existing keys seem to be simply ignored. However the documentation suggest an exception will be raised (it also says an exception will be raised if the call span multiple entity groups!). hmm, sorry if the documentation is unclear. you're right, deleting a non-existent key is a noop. the docs say An exception will always be raised *if any error occurs*, and deleting a non-existent key isn't considered an error. also, deleting entities from multiple entity groups is allowed, and even encouraged for efficiency. the This may happen if the keys in the call span multiple entity groups. sentence refers to the even if some of the entities actually were deleted phrase, since deleting entities across entity groups is not atomic. I'm also concerned about the performance of this deletion. I have a ... This code works, but works significantly slower (4 times) that the previous code with preliminary db.get(). It looks like deleting non- existing records take the same amount of time as deleting an existing record. Is this the SDK issue, or the production will also have such an issue? as has been discussed before: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/6a712cb3eddb152d http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/ba8d4ff7d825214/a5fc345c86a5abf2#a5fc345c86a5abf2 the SDK's performance is not representative of performance in production. also, deleting non-existent keys in production will usually be faster than deleting existing entities. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
Hi Marzia, You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object Good. Will this be documented? What happens is I pass non-existing key? On SDK the non-existing keys seem to be simply ignored. However the documentation suggest an exception will be raised (it also says an exception will be raised if the call span multiple entity groups!). I'm also concerned about the performance of this deletion. I have a list of keys to delete. Only about 25% of those keys really exist in the datastore. Right now I delete them with the following code: deleteModels = db.get( deleteKeys ) deleteModels = [k for k in deleteModels if k] db.delete( deleteModels ) Now with version 1.1.7, I want to replace this with the following: db.delete( deleteKeys ) This code works, but works significantly slower (4 times) that the previous code with preliminary db.get(). It looks like deleting non- existing records take the same amount of time as deleting an existing record. Is this the SDK issue, or the production will also have such an issue? Denis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
Hi, Its excellent that this update looks like a lot of work has gone in to. Can I just clarify what Datastore fetch max results and max query offset match production limits means? This may sounds stupid, is it that the SDK will error when you query past 1000 records, or is it what another appenginger reported the other day where he could query past 1000 records? Thanks Paul. 2008/11/21 Sachin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just upgraded to the latest 1.1.6 SDK using the Mac installer. Since upgrading though the launcher has been hanging repeatedly. I've had to force quit the launcher 3 times in the past hour. This occurs randomly when I load a page. Sachin On Nov 20, 6:07 pm, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today we released the 1.1.6 SDK. You can download it on our Google hosting project (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list), and peruse the release notes ( http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes) for more details on the release. This release contains some notable new features, including several additions to the datastore: * You can now sort and filter on an entity's key: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.htm... * You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object * If you specify a key_name when creating a Model, its key will now be available before you call put() * URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Also, it contains a number of issue fixes, including the following: * The SDK now only supports the same headers as production: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=53 * In production, fixed an erroneous NeedIndexError when two ancestor queries were specified: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=423 * Calling to_xml on a model instance containing a BlobProperty returns that BlobProperty base64 encoded: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=430 * URLFetch now uses the original HTTP method (e.g. POST) when following a redirect:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=363 -Marzia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
When will it appear on the download page? Thanks. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Marce (Google) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today we released the 1.1.7 SDK in order to fix the following issue that occurred in 1.1.6: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=877 -Marzia On Nov 20, 6:07 pm, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today we released the 1.1.6 SDK. You can download it on our Google hosting project (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list), and peruse the release notes ( http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes) for more details on the release. This release contains some notable new features, including several additions to the datastore: * You can now sort and filter on an entity's key: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.htm... * You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object * If you specify a key_name when creating a Model, its key will now be available before you call put() * URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Also, it contains a number of issue fixes, including the following: * The SDK now only supports the same headers as production: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=53 * In production, fixed an erroneous NeedIndexError when two ancestor queries were specified: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=423 * Calling to_xml on a model instance containing a BlobProperty returns that BlobProperty base64 encoded: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=430 * URLFetch now uses the original HTTP method (e.g. POST) when following a redirect:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=363 -Marzia -- http://giscoder.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
It will appear soon. But it's already available here: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/ -Marzia On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Joel Odom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When will it appear on the download page? Thanks. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Marce (Google) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today we released the 1.1.7 SDK in order to fix the following issue that occurred in 1.1.6: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=877 -Marzia On Nov 20, 6:07 pm, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today we released the 1.1.6 SDK. You can download it on our Google hosting project (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list), and peruse the release notes ( http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes) for more details on the release. This release contains some notable new features, including several additions to the datastore: * You can now sort and filter on an entity's key: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.htm... * You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object * If you specify a key_name when creating a Model, its key will now be available before you call put() * URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Also, it contains a number of issue fixes, including the following: * The SDK now only supports the same headers as production: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=53 * In production, fixed an erroneous NeedIndexError when two ancestor queries were specified: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=423 * Calling to_xml on a model instance containing a BlobProperty returns that BlobProperty base64 encoded: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=430 * URLFetch now uses the original HTTP method (e.g. POST) when following a redirect:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=363 -Marzia -- http://giscoder.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Is it possible to turn the timeout off in the SDK? We have some scripts that run locally to do batch updates fixes that hit external API's, they take longer than 5 seconds which is why we run them locally through the SDK. On Nov 21, 2:07 am, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today we released the 1.1.6 SDK. You can download it on our Google hosting project (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list), and peruse the release notes (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes) for more details on the release. This release contains some notable new features, including several additions to the datastore: * You can now sort and filter on an entity's key:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.htm... * You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object * If you specify a key_name when creating a Model, its key will now be available before you call put() * URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Also, it contains a number of issue fixes, including the following: * The SDK now only supports the same headers as production:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=53 * In production, fixed an erroneous NeedIndexError when two ancestor queries were specified:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=423 * Calling to_xml on a model instance containing a BlobProperty returns that BlobProperty base64 encoded:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=430 * URLFetch now uses the original HTTP method (e.g. POST) when following a redirect:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=363 -Marzia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
Hi Sachin, If you could grab the Monitor out put when the hangs happen, that would really help us troubleshoot why this could be happening: Open /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app Cmd-1 for Activity Monitor window When Launcher hangs, select it in Activity Monitor, then click Sample Process. And email us the results. Thanks, Marzia On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Sachin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded to the latest 1.1.6 SDK using the Mac installer. Since upgrading though the launcher has been hanging repeatedly. I've had to force quit the launcher 3 times in the past hour. This occurs randomly when I load a page. Sachin On Nov 20, 6:07 pm, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today we released the 1.1.6 SDK. You can download it on our Google hosting project (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list), and peruse the release notes ( http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes) for more details on the release. This release contains some notable new features, including several additions to the datastore: * You can now sort and filter on an entity's key: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.htm... * You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object * If you specify a key_name when creating a Model, its key will now be available before you call put() * URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Also, it contains a number of issue fixes, including the following: * The SDK now only supports the same headers as production: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=53 * In production, fixed an erroneous NeedIndexError when two ancestor queries were specified: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=423 * Calling to_xml on a model instance containing a BlobProperty returns that BlobProperty base64 encoded: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=430 * URLFetch now uses the original HTTP method (e.g. POST) when following a redirect:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=363 -Marzia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Is it possible to turn the timeout off in the SDK? We have some scripts that run locally to do batch updates fixes that hit external API's, they take longer than 5 seconds which is why we run them locally through the SDK. Won't they be just as slow in production? The SDK is there to be a development model of the production infrastructure. Dave. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SDK 1.1.6 Released
Exciting, Marzia. So sorting on a key would be much faster way of doing a bulk update of existing data of the kind described at: http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/update_schema.html in the Updating Existing Entities section, is that correct? Any idea how much faster sorting by the key is? Seems like these bulk updates must be a major bottleneck for quite a few people -- they certainly are for me! Thanks. -Adam On Nov 20, 6:07 pm, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today we released the 1.1.6 SDK. You can download it on our Google hosting project (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list), and peruse the release notes (http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/wiki/SdkReleaseNotes) for more details on the release. This release contains some notable new features, including several additions to the datastore: * You can now sort and filter on an entity's key:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.htm... * You can now delete an entity directly using its key, without instantiating/fetching the Model object * If you specify a key_name when creating a Model, its key will now be available before you call put() * URLFetch calls made in the SDK now have a 5 second timeout, matching production Also, it contains a number of issue fixes, including the following: * The SDK now only supports the same headers as production:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=53 * In production, fixed an erroneous NeedIndexError when two ancestor queries were specified:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=423 * Calling to_xml on a model instance containing a BlobProperty returns that BlobProperty base64 encoded:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=430 * URLFetch now uses the original HTTP method (e.g. POST) when following a redirect:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=363 -Marzia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
