[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Joe Developer]

rar x file.rar works fine here(Debian), you may want to install `unrar` from
your package management system.
Have a look at 'Form1.vb' :
wbLogin.ReadyState = WebBrowserReadyState.Complete

I wanted to attach the source in tar.gz format, but intriguingly gmail tells
me that it cannot be sent as it contains an executable.


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Oh and can you put the source on there in a different format? Linux (which
> I'm primarily on) can't read rars
>
> 2009/10/16 Sam Osborne 
>
> Ouch. Wait, if it IS an embedded browser, and if it was made (which is
>> likely) in Visual Studio, it's an embedded IE Which is very bad...
>>
>> 2009/10/16 Joe Developer 
>>
>> From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is unlikely to
>>> work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an embedded webbrowser
>>> to handle the handshaking with the wave site.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne <
>>> sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead of
 something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of C++, but
 then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux just needs 
 to
 install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.

 Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?

 All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be that
 bad!

 Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code almost
 directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code means what,
 espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the line numbers 
 up.

 For example:
 VB.net code:
 Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
 C++ code:
 Line 1: cout << "Hello";
 Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly the
 same thing
 Line 1: printf("Hello");

 Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For Bugs,
 rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If you're working
 your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may even be able to fix
 some of them..

 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 

 The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember that
> I rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy (readable) since I
> really wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
>  If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on hold.
>
> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less bugs
> but I wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats been
> released.)
>
> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release this in
> vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re - written to
> proper standards.
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver Baker
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer <
> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker wrote:
>>
>>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I
>>> know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me
>>> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened 
>>> to me
>>> before)
>>
>> Experience can never be taken from you.
>>
>>>
>>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find
>>> somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>>>
>> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would
>> find the gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+
>> and whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
>> http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>>
>>
>>> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
>>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.
>>>
>>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a
>> small shell script that gets called from something like conky now and 
>> then.
>>
>>
>>> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Oliver Baker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

Oh and can you put the source on there in a different format? Linux (which
I'm primarily on) can't read rars

2009/10/16 Sam Osborne 

> Ouch. Wait, if it IS an embedded browser, and if it was made (which is
> likely) in Visual Studio, it's an embedded IE Which is very bad...
>
> 2009/10/16 Joe Developer 
>
> From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is unlikely to
>> work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an embedded webbrowser
>> to handle the handshaking with the wave site.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne > > wrote:
>>
>>> Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead of
>>> something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of C++, but
>>> then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux just needs to
>>> install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.
>>>
>>> Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?
>>>
>>> All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be that
>>> bad!
>>>
>>> Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code almost
>>> directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code means what,
>>> espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the line numbers up.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>> VB.net code:
>>> Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
>>> C++ code:
>>> Line 1: cout << "Hello";
>>> Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly the
>>> same thing
>>> Line 1: printf("Hello");
>>>
>>> Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For Bugs,
>>> rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If you're working
>>> your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may even be able to fix
>>> some of them..
>>>
>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>>>
>>> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember that I
 rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy (readable) since I really
 wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
  If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on hold.

 (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less bugs but
 I wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats been 
 released.)

 Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release this in
 vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re - written to
 proper standards.

 Thanks,
 Oliver Baker


 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer <
 joe.d.develo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker wrote:
>
>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I
>> know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me
>> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened 
>> to me
>> before)
>
> Experience can never be taken from you.
>
>>
>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find
>> somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>>
> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would
> find the gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+
> and whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
> http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>
>
>> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.
>>
>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a
> small shell script that gets called from something like conky now and 
> then.
>
>
>> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Oliver Baker
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

Ouch. Wait, if it IS an embedded browser, and if it was made (which is
likely) in Visual Studio, it's an embedded IE Which is very bad...

2009/10/16 Joe Developer 

> From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is unlikely to
> work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an embedded webbrowser
> to handle the handshaking with the wave site.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead of
>> something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of C++, but
>> then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux just needs to
>> install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.
>>
>> Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?
>>
>> All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be that bad!
>>
>> Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code almost
>> directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code means what,
>> espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the line numbers up.
>>
>> For example:
>> VB.net code:
>> Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
>> C++ code:
>> Line 1: cout << "Hello";
>> Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly the same
>> thing
>> Line 1: printf("Hello");
>>
>> Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For Bugs,
>> rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If you're working
>> your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may even be able to fix
>> some of them..
>>
>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>>
>> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember that I
>>> rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy (readable) since I really
>>> wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
>>>  If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on hold.
>>>
>>> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less bugs but
>>> I wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats been released.)
>>>
>>> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release this in
>>> vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re - written to
>>> proper standards.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Oliver Baker
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer <
>>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>


 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker wrote:

> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I
> know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me
> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened to 
> me
> before)

 Experience can never be taken from you.

>
> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find
> somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>
 I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would find
 the gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+ and
 whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
 http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html


> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.
>
> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a small
 shell script that gets called from something like conky now and then.


> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>
> Regards,
> Oliver Baker
>
>
>



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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Joe Developer]

>From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is unlikely to
work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an embedded webbrowser
to handle the handshaking with the wave site.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead of
> something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of C++, but
> then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux just needs to
> install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.
>
> Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?
>
> All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be that bad!
>
> Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code almost
> directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code means what,
> espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the line numbers up.
>
> For example:
> VB.net code:
> Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
> C++ code:
> Line 1: cout << "Hello";
> Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly the same
> thing
> Line 1: printf("Hello");
>
> Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For Bugs,
> rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If you're working
> your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may even be able to fix
> some of them..
>
> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>
> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember that I
>> rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy (readable) since I really
>> wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
>>  If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on hold.
>>
>> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less bugs but I
>> wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats been released.)
>>
>> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release this in
>> vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re - written to
>> proper standards.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oliver Baker
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker  wrote:
>>>
 Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I
 know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me
 dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened to 
 me
 before)
>>>
>>> Experience can never be taken from you.
>>>

 I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find
 somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.

>>> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would find
>>> the gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+ and
>>> whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
>>> http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>>>
>>>
 I will put up all the current plans for this application on
 the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.

 It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a small
>>> shell script that gets called from something like conky now and then.
>>>
>>>
 It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.

 Regards,
 Oliver Baker



>>>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead of
something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of C++, but
then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux just needs to
install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.

Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?

All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be that bad!

Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code almost directly,
it may be pretty simple to find out which code means what, espcecially if
(once I've translated it all) if I match the line numbers up.
For example:
VB.net code:
Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
C++ code:
Line 1: cout << "Hello";
Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly the same
thing
Line 1: printf("Hello");

Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For Bugs,
rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If you're working
your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may even be able to fix
some of them..

2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 

> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember that I
> rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy (readable) since I really
> wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
> If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on hold.
>
> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less bugs but I
> wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats been released.)
>
> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release this in
> vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re - written to proper
> standards.
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver Baker
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker  wrote:
>>
>>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I
>>> know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me
>>> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened to me
>>> before)
>>
>> Experience can never be taken from you.
>>
>>>
>>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find somebody
>>> who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>>>
>> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would find
>> the gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+ and
>> whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
>> http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>>
>>
>>> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
>>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.
>>>
>>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a small
>> shell script that gets called from something like conky now and then.
>>
>>
>>> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Oliver Baker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Embed API

[Sam Osborne]

I thought the embeddy code still had the sandbox code in it...

2009/10/15 ndee 

>
> just add embe...@appspot.com to your contact and wave and it will
> generate a valid embed code you can then adjust to your needs :)
>
> On Oct 15, 6:02 pm, Sam Osborne  wrote:
> > Seeing as my Internet is actually awful, I'm struggling.. I won't really
> > know until we get an upgrade on Saturday.. Woot!
> > Can I have a look at the code you're using (just the Wave bits)?
> >
> > 2009/10/15 Anuj 
> >
> >
> >
> > > Tried but no luck, have you been successful in embedding.
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 2:40 pm, Sam Osborne  wrote:
> > > > I think so... You just need to change some of the code to adapt to
> the
> > > > preview.
> >
> > > > 2009/10/14 Anuj 
> >
> > > > > Do the 10 users invited for preview have access to the Embed
> API
> > > > > functions?
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Future Plans Of Embed API?

[James Purser]

On the point of non wave users being able to create waves i don't
think viet is ever going to happen. Of course there will come a time
when we can run our own wave infra

On 16/10/2009, Eric Dorman  wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> What are the future plans of the Embed API?
>
> In the future when will we be able to have any visitor sign into our
> own website and begin to use a Wave or create one without being on the
> actual wave.google.com platform?
>
> Thanks & God Bless,
> Eric
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Is there a way to tell if a blip is inside parent, or it follows parent?

[qMax]

Hi.

And if it is inside parent - how to get its insertion position?
Are such properties available?
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[Google Wave APIs] Future Plans Of Embed API?

[Eric Dorman]

Hey guys,

What are the future plans of the Embed API?

In the future when will we be able to have any visitor sign into our
own website and begin to use a Wave or create one without being on the
actual wave.google.com platform?

Thanks & God Bless,
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: How do you install gadgets in the Wave Preview (not the Developer Preview)?

[Kevin Albrecht]

Pamela,

It looks like I was looking at the Extension Settings wave, not the
Extensions Gallery wave.  I found that wave now.  Maybe that wave
should show up in the "Settings" menu?

Thanks,
Kevin

On Oct 15, 1:33 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
wrote:
> Hi Kevin-
> Did you scroll all the way to the bottom? If it's not there, can you show me
> a screenshot of what the bottom looks like?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - pamela
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Kevin Albrecht  wrote:
>
> > Pamela,
>
> > The "Extensions Gallery" wave in Wave Preview (not the Developer
> > Preview) does not seem to contain the Extension Installer.
>
> > --Kevin
>
> > On Oct 13, 5:47 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Kevin-
> > > These instructions demonstrate how:
> >http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/installers/index.html#Ext...
>
> > >  > .>-
> > > pamela
>
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Albrecht 
> > wrote:
>
> > > > So this page gives instructions for how to write and Extension
> > > > Manifest to allow it to be installed, but how does this work in the
> > > > Wave Preview?  I have written a gadget and it works fine in waves when
> > > > inserted using the gadget's XML URL, but how can it then be installed?
> > > >http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/installers/index.html
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kevin Albrecht

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[Brian May]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 02:41:34AM +1100, pamela (Google Employee) wrote:
> No, you can edit it. What made you think it was read-only?
> On the contrary, in fact. We are thinking of making it so that a gadget must
> put the blip in edit mode in order to save state, so there is an in-blip
> consistency. I'll post more about that shortly.

That sounds like a really good idea. Although I prefer it if the user has
to put the blip in edit mode, as opposed to the gadget doing it automatically.

Right now it is too easy to make accidental changes IMHO. For a number of 
reasons.

e.g. if you are not sure what consitutes a change (e.g. interacting with
the map gadget doesn't seem to change anything unless you are in edit mode -
however I was nervous about panning around in one because I though the changes
would show for other people too).

Once you accidentally change a blip, you remain listed as a contributor, even
if you didn't intend to change anything.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Various questions: 1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular account?

[Brian May]

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 05:32:36AM -0700, John Black wrote:
> 2. I have a two Dev. Sandbox accounts for testing but I can never see
> the pictures of the other account. Known issue?

First like others have said, make sure they are allowing you to your photo.

I have observed this can be rather buggy. For example, somebody I sent an
invitation to, I can see her name & picture after I reload Google Wave for
about 30 seconds, then both the name and picture vanish. If I reload the page I
can see them again for another 30 seconds (approx).
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Special something:appn...@appspot.com behaviour?

[Andrew]

Of course - "something else".

Two lessons learned:
1. Practice what you preach - no matter how excited you are to
play with a new technology, don't abandon Test First principals:
infinite loop in blip processing found in second unit test.
2. Log output in app engine console isn't written until request
finishes processing. If your request doesn't finish, you get no
logs :)

Well, that was embarrassing. I hope nobody reads this :)

A

On Oct 14, 9:31 pm, Andrew  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> This is probably just a case of not having stumbled onto the key piece
> of documentation yet, but it's kept me confused for a few hours.
>
> I've written a robot that reacts to occurrences of text of the form
>
> something:appn...@appspot.com
>
> ... in the text of BLIP_SUBMITTED events.
>
> All is working nicely in the app when blip text contains *no*
> occurrence of something:appn...@appspot.com, or *only* the text
> something:appn...@appspot.com, but if the text contains
> something:appn...@appspot.com *and anything else*, the event never
> makes it into my robot AT ALL (as shown by the appengine logs).
>
> Have I just accidentally used a form of text that is reserved for
> something else or is there something else going on?
>
> Thanks,
>
> A

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Trouble uploading Gadget's xml

[bxgirten]

Austin,

I *think* I got it to work?  So I have to click on "New Wave" BEFORE I
attempt to add the Google Wave gadget?

-bxg



On Oct 15, 6:21 pm, "Austin Chau (Google employee)"
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> Austin
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:05 AM, bxgirten  wrote:
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> > I point to a perfectly valid URI
>
> >http://demo.biogadgets.net/exist/gwave/wavegadget.xml
>
> > but after clicking the Add XML button, the dialog disappears and
> > nothing happens.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Office Hours Start in 10 Minutes

[JamesBrooks]

Shame I can't get on until my Sandbox account is activated!

On Oct 15, 4:55 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
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> URL in Wave Sandbox to 
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Is there a way to Embed the new google waves preview using the embed API?

[Brian Kennish (Googler)]

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:18 PM, ndee  wrote:
> Hi, is embeddy currently disabled or broken? A user reported that
> adding embeddy did not work for him. I tried it myself in a new wave
> and no embedding code was showing up. ?

Hey, I just added it on wavesandbox and googlewave and it worked fine
(albeit was a little slow to appear on googlewave). Send me your
wavesandbox or googlewave (wherever you're having problems) username
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Trouble uploading Gadget's xml

[Austin Chau (Google employee)]

I didn't see any problem when I added your gadget spec.
Austin

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>
> I point to a perfectly valid URI
>
> http://demo.biogadgets.net/exist/gwave/wavegadget.xml
>
> but after clicking the Add XML button, the dialog disappears and
> nothing happens.
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Is there a way to Embed the new google waves preview using the embed API?

[ndee]

Hi, is embeddy currently disabled or broken? A user reported that
adding embeddy did not work for him. I tried it myself in a new wave
and no embedding code was showing up. ?

On Oct 3, 12:09 am, "Brian Kennish (Googler)" 
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM, ndee  wrote:
> > there is something screwed up with embeddy. I added embeddy in my
> > preview but it shows up as tweety BUT it is embeddy and generates the
> > iframe code :)
>
> Wacky. :-P Rusty (the robot proxy) might have some bad data cached or
> maybe the general profile problems people have been seeing are
> affecting robots too because Tweety's profile info isn't anywhere in
> Embeddy's code.
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Graham Anderson
>
>  wrote:
> > Not getting much output from Embeddy, tried adding as a bot
> > (embe...@appspot.com is correct?).
>
> Seems alright now (besides the profile stuff) -- Rusty could've been
> down when you added it before. I got a chance to do some more testing
> today and I believe it's producing good embed code from googlewave,
> wavesandbox, and other Wave domains.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Oliver Baker]

The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember that I
rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy (readable) since I really
wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on hold.

(There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less bugs but I
wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats been released.)

Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release this in
vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re - written to proper
standards.

Thanks,
Oliver Baker

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker  wrote:
>
>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I know
>> will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me dead in
>> the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened to me before)
>
> Experience can never be taken from you.
>
>>
>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find somebody
>> who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>>
> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would find
> the gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+ and
> whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
> http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
>
>
>> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.
>>
>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a small
> shell script that gets called from something like conky now and then.
>
>
>> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Oliver Baker
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Embed API

[ndee]

just add embe...@appspot.com to your contact and wave and it will
generate a valid embed code you can then adjust to your needs :)

On Oct 15, 6:02 pm, Sam Osborne  wrote:
> Seeing as my Internet is actually awful, I'm struggling.. I won't really
> know until we get an upgrade on Saturday.. Woot!
> Can I have a look at the code you're using (just the Wave bits)?
>
> 2009/10/15 Anuj 
>
>
>
> > Tried but no luck, have you been successful in embedding.
>
> > On Oct 15, 2:40 pm, Sam Osborne  wrote:
> > > I think so... You just need to change some of the code to adapt to the
> > > preview.
>
> > > 2009/10/14 Anuj 
>
> > > > Do the 10 users invited for preview have access to the Embed API
> > > > functions?
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Joe Developer]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker  wrote:

> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I know
> will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me dead in
> the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened to me before)

Experience can never be taken from you.

>
> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find somebody
> who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
>
I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you would find the
gui more portable and easier to manage using something like gtk+ and
whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python or *
http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html


> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.
>
> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be a small
shell script that gets called from something like conky now and then.


> It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
>
> Regards,
> Oliver Baker
>
>
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: How do you install gadgets in the Wave Preview (not the Developer Preview)?

[pamela (Google Employee)]

Hi Kevin-
Did you scroll all the way to the bottom? If it's not there, can you show me
a screenshot of what the bottom looks like?

Thanks!

- pamela

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Kevin Albrecht  wrote:

>
> Pamela,
>
> The "Extensions Gallery" wave in Wave Preview (not the Developer
> Preview) does not seem to contain the Extension Installer.
>
> --Kevin
>
> On Oct 13, 5:47 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> wrote:
> > Hi Kevin-
> > These instructions demonstrate how:
> http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/installers/index.html#Ext...
> >
> >  .>-
> > pamela
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Albrecht 
> wrote:
> >
> > > So this page gives instructions for how to write and Extension
> > > Manifest to allow it to be installed, but how does this work in the
> > > Wave Preview?  I have written a gadget and it works fine in waves when
> > > inserted using the gadget's XML URL, but how can it then be installed?
> > >http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/installers/index.html
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kevin Albrecht
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[pamela (Google Employee)]

Several developers reported that. What browser are you in? Can you try
another browser?
- pamela

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:00 AM, tg2  wrote:

>
> It's not letting me reply... read only?
>
>
> On Oct 15, 9:51 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> wrote:
> > Hey developers-
> > I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize
> where
> > all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
> > called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
> > people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use
> it..
> > So, go add yourself:
> >
> > https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:co...
> >
> > Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
> http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
> >
> > - pamela
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: How do you install gadgets in the Wave Preview (not the Developer Preview)?

[Kevin Albrecht]

Pamela,

The "Extensions Gallery" wave in Wave Preview (not the Developer
Preview) does not seem to contain the Extension Installer.

--Kevin

On Oct 13, 5:47 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
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> These instructions demonstrate 
> how:http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/installers/index.html#Ext...
>
> -
> pamela
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Albrecht  wrote:
>
> > So this page gives instructions for how to write and Extension
> > Manifest to allow it to be installed, but how does this work in the
> > Wave Preview?  I have written a gadget and it works fine in waves when
> > inserted using the gadget's XML URL, but how can it then be installed?
> >http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/installers/index.html
>
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin Albrecht

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[tg2]

It's not letting me reply... read only?


On Oct 15, 9:51 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
wrote:
> Hey developers-
> I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize where
> all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
> called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
> people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
> So, go add yourself:
>
> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:co...
>
> Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a 
> bit):http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
>
> - pamela

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: How Long Will I Have To Wait

[JamesBrooks]

A lot of processing goes on behind the scenes, you don't get your
invite straight away. I got mine several days after it was sent. Just
be patient and expect it soon.

On Oct 15, 7:05 pm, da burger  wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm not to worried but I would like to know what kind of time I will
> have to wait for my account to be given. Like I say I'm not worried
> and have not been waiting very long but I would like to have some idea
> when I will have an account to play with.
> Angus
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Oliver Baker]

Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people that I know
will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through, leaving me dead in
the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its happened to me before)
I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to find somebody
who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
I will put up all the current plans for this application on
the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do what.

It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.

Regards,
Oliver Baker

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> People prefer to just be able to run/install something, without having to
> go around installing other things as well... Getting away from VB is always
> a good call.. I did VB for the past 2 years, now I'm C++-ing.
> Seeing as I'm not even half way through that pdf, I can't do GUI's yet
> (:(), though, if I can translate the http scraping and whatnot code, then
> someone else could do that bit..
> Open Source means other people can take the code and do what they like with
> it, and it's also a community effort, so many people can contribute.. For
> example, Oliver can go for the main code, the Windows bits, and then I can
> translate some code into C++, and some other person could go in and get my
> adaptation of Oliver's code into a GUI.
>
> 2009/10/15 Joe Developer 
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Sam Osborne > > wrote:
>>
>>> 1: Ok.
>>>
>>> 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it.
>>> If you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be
>>> able to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
>>> I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure
>>> about work and what their C++ equivalents are.
>>>
>>
>> I think you will find that the bulk of it is tied to the windows gui
>> interface, the interfacing with Wave is done via http and scraping,
>> basically just doing the steps that your browser does while logging you in
>> (passing cookies and auth).
>>
>>
>>> It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac
>>> or Linux, where some Wave users are.
>>
>> Well, there is Mono.
>>
>>
>>> You could TRY getting it to run on AIR, but I'm not sure how that works
>>> :S
>>> You may want to look at C++ For 
>>> Dummies
>>>
>>> Getting weaned off VB sounds like a good call.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Oliver Baker]

Hi Again,
I see your point Sam.

The only problem is I can't code in C++, and the plans that I have for this
application would go well beyond the capability of me learning within a few
days.

Also it would mean I would not be able to Bug Fix my own application for a
while and would have to rely on others doing it for me which could be pretty
dangerous.

I don't mind you creating a C++ version of my App, at the moment I am
creating a new GUI interface for the Application.
I will not be able to help you create the C++ version, since I am going to
have to start learning C++ real fast.

I am going to put up some Future designs for the application including an
example Preview of the applications dialog window in the wave :
https://wave.google.com/wave/?pli=1#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BbTKibG6gA.2
 .

Anyway, I will put up the current source of the application within the
next couple of hours.

I wouldn't mind this all being done in C++, but I have to be careful I start
going into something I can't do. I don't want to ruin myself.

Regards,
Oliver Baker

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> 1: Ok.
>
> 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it. If
> you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be able
> to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
> I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure about
> work and what their C++ equivalents are.
> It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac or
> Linux, where some Wave users are. You could TRY getting it to run on AIR,
> but I'm not sure how that works :S
> You may want to look at C++ For 
> Dummies
>
>
> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>
>> Hi Sam,
>> *Answer to your First Question:*
>>
>> If you read the whole post you will know I have been given permission by
>> Google to (For This Application only) Breach Condition L of  the Google Wave
>> Program Policy until the relative API is released by Google.
>>
>> Which means that there is no current API for what I have done.
>>
>> *Answer to your second question.*
>>
>> I am assuming that you want to create your own project based on my source
>> code Seems pretty harsh Sam.
>>
>> The Main part of my application that you probably want to obtain is the
>> part which obtains the information. When the API comes out, my applications
>> source to you that you currently want would be near pointless
>>
>> The source will be put up on Google Code soon (Within 2-3 days) since
>> parts of it have to be re-written. I don't mind you using my source code.
>> But I am trusting people not to pull a fast one on me.
>>
>> Hope that answers your questions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Oliver Baker
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Sam Osborne > > wrote:
>>
>>> Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things:
>>>
>>>- How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're
>>>in (Java/Python I think) to VB?
>>>- Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source, translate
>>>it into C++, and then get it to run in Linux..
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>>>
 Hi Sam,
 The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17,
 still studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously
 C/C++).


 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne <
 sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> What language is it made in?
>
> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>
> Hi All,
>> I have good news!!!
>>
>> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my
>> application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.
>>
>> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
>> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oliver Baker
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
>>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
>>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
>>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
>>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can
>>> be
>>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company
>>> like
>>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that
>>> I'm not a
>>> > lawyer...
>>> >
>>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
>>> "modify,
>>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service
>>> unless
>>> > express

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

People prefer to just be able to run/install something, without having to go
around installing other things as well... Getting away from VB is always a
good call.. I did VB for the past 2 years, now I'm C++-ing.
Seeing as I'm not even half way through that pdf, I can't do GUI's yet (:(),
though, if I can translate the http scraping and whatnot code, then someone
else could do that bit..
Open Source means other people can take the code and do what they like with
it, and it's also a community effort, so many people can contribute.. For
example, Oliver can go for the main code, the Windows bits, and then I can
translate some code into C++, and some other person could go in and get my
adaptation of Oliver's code into a GUI.

2009/10/15 Joe Developer 

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Sam Osborne 
> wrote:
>
>> 1: Ok.
>>
>> 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it.
>> If you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be
>> able to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
>> I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure
>> about work and what their C++ equivalents are.
>>
>
> I think you will find that the bulk of it is tied to the windows gui
> interface, the interfacing with Wave is done via http and scraping,
> basically just doing the steps that your browser does while logging you in
> (passing cookies and auth).
>
>
>> It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac or
>> Linux, where some Wave users are.
>
> Well, there is Mono.
>
>
>> You could TRY getting it to run on AIR, but I'm not sure how that works :S
>> You may want to look at C++ For 
>> Dummies
>>
>> Getting weaned off VB sounds like a good call.
>
>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Joe Developer]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> 1: Ok.
>
> 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it. If
> you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be able
> to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
> I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure about
> work and what their C++ equivalents are.
>

I think you will find that the bulk of it is tied to the windows gui
interface, the interfacing with Wave is done via http and scraping,
basically just doing the steps that your browser does while logging you in
(passing cookies and auth).


> It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac or
> Linux, where some Wave users are.

Well, there is Mono.


> You could TRY getting it to run on AIR, but I'm not sure how that works :S
> You may want to look at C++ For 
> Dummies
>
> Getting weaned off VB sounds like a good call.

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

1: Ok.

2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it. If
you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be able
to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure about
work and what their C++ equivalents are.
It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac or
Linux, where some Wave users are. You could TRY getting it to run on AIR,
but I'm not sure how that works :S
You may want to look at C++ For
Dummies

2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 

> Hi Sam,
> *Answer to your First Question:*
>
> If you read the whole post you will know I have been given permission by
> Google to (For This Application only) Breach Condition L of  the Google Wave
> Program Policy until the relative API is released by Google.
>
> Which means that there is no current API for what I have done.
>
> *Answer to your second question.*
>
> I am assuming that you want to create your own project based on my source
> code Seems pretty harsh Sam.
>
> The Main part of my application that you probably want to obtain is the
> part which obtains the information. When the API comes out, my applications
> source to you that you currently want would be near pointless
>
> The source will be put up on Google Code soon (Within 2-3 days) since parts
> of it have to be re-written. I don't mind you using my source code. But I am
> trusting people not to pull a fast one on me.
>
> Hope that answers your questions.
>
> Regards,
> Oliver Baker
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Sam Osborne 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things:
>>
>>- How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're in
>>(Java/Python I think) to VB?
>>- Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source, translate
>>it into C++, and then get it to run in Linux..
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>>
>>> Hi Sam,
>>> The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17,
>>> still studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously
>>> C/C++).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne <
>>> sam.tosbo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 What language is it made in?

 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 

 Hi All,
> I have good news!!!
>
> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my
> application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.
>
> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver Baker
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
>> wrote:
>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that
>> I'm not a
>> > lawyer...
>> >
>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
>> "modify,
>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service
>> unless
>> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
>> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You
>> can read
>> > more of the policies at:
>> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
>> >
>> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content
>> -- which
>> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to
>> build this
>> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to
>> consider,
>> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol
>> -- but
>> > things are early there at the moment.
>> >
>> > - pamela
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
>> > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Hey Oliver-
>> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep
>> the thread
>> > >> in the forum.
>> >
>> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give
>> you a
>> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to 

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Oliver Baker]

Hi Sam,
*Answer to your First Question:*

If you read the whole post you will know I have been given permission by
Google to (For This Application only) Breach Condition L of  the Google Wave
Program Policy until the relative API is released by Google.

Which means that there is no current API for what I have done.

*Answer to your second question.*

I am assuming that you want to create your own project based on my source
code Seems pretty harsh Sam.

The Main part of my application that you probably want to obtain is the part
which obtains the information. When the API comes out, my applications
source to you that you currently want would be near pointless

The source will be put up on Google Code soon (Within 2-3 days) since parts
of it have to be re-written. I don't mind you using my source code. But I am
trusting people not to pull a fast one on me.

Hope that answers your questions.

Regards,
Oliver Baker

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things:
>
>- How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're in
>(Java/Python I think) to VB?
>- Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source, translate it
>into C++, and then get it to run in Linux..
>
>
> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>
>> Hi Sam,
>> The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17, still
>> studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously C/C++).
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne > > wrote:
>>
>>> What language is it made in?
>>>
>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>>>
>>> Hi All,
 I have good news!!!

 Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my
 application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.

 I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
 releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.

 Thanks,
 Oliver Baker

 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:

>
> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>
> Rich
>
> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> wrote:
> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that I'm
> not a
> > lawyer...
> >
> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
> "modify,
> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service
> unless
> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You
> can read
> > more of the policies at:
> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
> >
> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content
> -- which
> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to build
> this
> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to
> consider,
> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol
> -- but
> > things are early there at the moment.
> >
> > - pamela
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
> > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Hey Oliver-
> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep the
> thread
> > >> in the forum.
> >
> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give you
> a
> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape"
> the HTML
> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That
> is why
> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use content.
> >
> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link
> that
> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search
> results would
> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those pages
> that
> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
> >
> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data
> API to
> > >> distribute a program like this.
> >
> > >> - pamela
> >
> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker 
> wrote:
> >
> > >>> How dar

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things:

   - How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're in
   (Java/Python I think) to VB?
   - Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source, translate it
   into C++, and then get it to run in Linux..


2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 

> Hi Sam,
> The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17, still
> studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously C/C++).
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne 
> wrote:
>
>> What language is it made in?
>>
>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>>
>> Hi All,
>>> I have good news!!!
>>>
>>> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my
>>> application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.
>>>
>>> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
>>> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Oliver Baker
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:
>>>

 Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
 word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
 see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
 become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
 naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
 a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
 Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.

 Rich

 On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
 wrote:
 > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that I'm
 not a
 > lawyer...
 >
 > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
 "modify,
 > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service
 unless
 > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
 > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You
 can read
 > more of the policies at:
 http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
 >
 > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content --
 which
 > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to build
 this
 > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to
 consider,
 > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol --
 but
 > things are early there at the moment.
 >
 > - pamela
 >
 > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
 joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
 > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >
 > >> Hey Oliver-
 > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep the
 thread
 > >> in the forum.
 >
 > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give you
 a
 > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape"
 the HTML
 > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That is
 why
 > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use content.
 >
 > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link
 that
 > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search results
 would
 > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those pages
 that
 > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
 >
 > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data
 API to
 > >> distribute a program like this.
 >
 > >> - pamela
 >
 > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker 
 wrote:
 >
 > >>> How dare you Andrey!
 >
 > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding the
 last
 > >>> Wave server you selected.
 >
 > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the Google
 Wave
 > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login page.
 >
 > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a
 little
 > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or right
 > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to
 see
 > >>> your waves button.
 >
 > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your
 > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs.
 >
 > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov  wrote:
 > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you run
 exe's
 > >>> you
 > >>> > downloaded online?
 > >>> > - Andrey
 >
 > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall <
 break...@gmail.com>
 > >>> wrote:
 >
 > >>> >

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Oliver Baker]

Hi Sam,
The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17, still
studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously C/C++).


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> What language is it made in?
>
> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 
>
> Hi All,
>> I have good news!!!
>>
>> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my application
>> using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.
>>
>> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
>> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oliver Baker
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
>>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
>>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
>>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
>>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
>>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
>>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that I'm
>>> not a
>>> > lawyer...
>>> >
>>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
>>> "modify,
>>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service unless
>>> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
>>> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You can
>>> read
>>> > more of the policies at:
>>> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
>>> >
>>> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content --
>>> which
>>> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to build
>>> this
>>> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to
>>> consider,
>>> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol --
>>> but
>>> > things are early there at the moment.
>>> >
>>> > - pamela
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
>>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
>>> > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> Hey Oliver-
>>> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep the
>>> thread
>>> > >> in the forum.
>>> >
>>> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give you a
>>> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape"
>>> the HTML
>>> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That is
>>> why
>>> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use content.
>>> >
>>> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link that
>>> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search results
>>> would
>>> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those pages
>>> that
>>> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
>>> >
>>> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data API
>>> to
>>> > >> distribute a program like this.
>>> >
>>> > >> - pamela
>>> >
>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >>> How dare you Andrey!
>>> >
>>> > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding the
>>> last
>>> > >>> Wave server you selected.
>>> >
>>> > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the Google
>>> Wave
>>> > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login page.
>>> >
>>> > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a
>>> little
>>> > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or right
>>> > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to see
>>> > >>> your waves button.
>>> >
>>> > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your
>>> > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs.
>>> >
>>> > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov  wrote:
>>> > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you run
>>> exe's
>>> > >>> you
>>> > >>> > downloaded online?
>>> > >>> > - Andrey
>>> >
>>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall <
>>> break...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something? There's
>>> nowhere
>>> > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials?
>>> >
>>> > >>> > > ~Scott~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Sam Osborne]

What language is it made in?

2009/10/15 Oliver Baker 

> Hi All,
> I have good news!!!
>
> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my application
> using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.
>
> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver Baker
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
>> wrote:
>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that I'm
>> not a
>> > lawyer...
>> >
>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
>> "modify,
>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service unless
>> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
>> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You can
>> read
>> > more of the policies at:
>> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
>> >
>> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content --
>> which
>> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to build
>> this
>> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to consider,
>> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol --
>> but
>> > things are early there at the moment.
>> >
>> > - pamela
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
>> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
>> > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Hey Oliver-
>> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep the
>> thread
>> > >> in the forum.
>> >
>> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give you a
>> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape" the
>> HTML
>> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That is
>> why
>> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use content.
>> >
>> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link that
>> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search results
>> would
>> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those pages
>> that
>> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
>> >
>> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data API
>> to
>> > >> distribute a program like this.
>> >
>> > >> - pamela
>> >
>> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> How dare you Andrey!
>> >
>> > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding the
>> last
>> > >>> Wave server you selected.
>> >
>> > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the Google
>> Wave
>> > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login page.
>> >
>> > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a little
>> > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or right
>> > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to see
>> > >>> your waves button.
>> >
>> > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your
>> > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs.
>> >
>> > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov  wrote:
>> > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you run
>> exe's
>> > >>> you
>> > >>> > downloaded online?
>> > >>> > - Andrey
>> >
>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall <
>> break...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something? There's
>> nowhere
>> > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials?
>> >
>> > >>> > > ~Scott~
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] How Long Will I Have To Wait

[da burger]

Hi,
I'm not to worried but I would like to know what kind of time I will
have to wait for my account to be given. Like I say I'm not worried
and have not been waiting very long but I would like to have some idea
when I will have an account to play with.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave Inbox Notification tool for the Windows Desktop

[Oliver Baker]

Hi All,
I have good news!!!

Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my application
using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.

I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be releasing
an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.

Thanks,
Oliver Baker

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er  wrote:

>
> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>
> Rich
>
> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> wrote:
> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that I'm not
> a
> > lawyer...
> >
> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
> "modify,
> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service unless
> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You can
> read
> > more of the policies at:
> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
> >
> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content --
> which
> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to build
> this
> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to consider,
> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol --
> but
> > things are early there at the moment.
> >
> > - pamela
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
> joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
> > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Hey Oliver-
> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep the
> thread
> > >> in the forum.
> >
> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give you a
> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape" the
> HTML
> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That is
> why
> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use content.
> >
> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link that
> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search results
> would
> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those pages
> that
> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
> >
> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data API
> to
> > >> distribute a program like this.
> >
> > >> - pamela
> >
> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker 
> wrote:
> >
> > >>> How dare you Andrey!
> >
> > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding the
> last
> > >>> Wave server you selected.
> >
> > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the Google
> Wave
> > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login page.
> >
> > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a little
> > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or right
> > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to see
> > >>> your waves button.
> >
> > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your
> > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs.
> >
> > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov  wrote:
> > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you run
> exe's
> > >>> you
> > >>> > downloaded online?
> > >>> > - Andrey
> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall <
> break...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something? There's
> nowhere
> > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials?
> >
> > >>> > > ~Scott~
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[Sam Osborne]

Aweosme! Although I don't develop gadgets, Embed API user here, I love the
functionality of it in the Maps gadget (I use that button (I'm referencing
to the "Return to shared view" one here) in my own Waves a lot, and love the
fact that it's soon going to be in more gadgets :D

2009/10/15 pamela (Google Employee) 

> Hey Sam-
> Here it is:
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api/web/using-setmodecallback-with-gadgets
>
>
> -
> pamela
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Sam Osborne 
> wrote:
>
>> Waiting for that post!
>>
>> 2009/10/15 pamela (Google Employee) 
>>
>> No, you can edit it. What made you think it was read-only?
>>> On the contrary, in fact. We are thinking of making it so that a gadget
>>> must put the blip in edit mode in order to save state, so there is an
>>> in-blip consistency. I'll post more about that shortly.
>>>
>>> Right now, a gadget can save state whenever.
>>>
>>> - pamela
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Solomon Wu  wrote:
>>>
 Cool!Is that particular wave a read-only wave?  If so, does that mean
 that there will be a way in the future to lock the content of the blip 
 while
 still allowing gadget to save state?


 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
 pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey developers-
> I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize
> where all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering 
> library
> called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
> people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
> So, go add yourself:
>
>
> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA
>
> Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
> http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
>
> - pamela
>
>
>
>



>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: FYI: Missing Sandbox -> Preview Invites

[pamela (Google Employee)]

Hi developers-
If you are a pre-9/30 sandbox developer that did not receive a Google Wave
invite, or a sandbox developer that forgot their password, please send me an
email with subject line "Missing Invite" or "Forgotten Password" with a
forward of your original invitation to sandbox email (containing your
sandbox username). We will do our best to process. Thanks for your help in
trying to streamline this.

- pamela


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:59 AM, JoE  wrote:

>
> I lost my password to the sandbox, so I can't get my invite.
>
> Username: JoeHillen
>
> thank you
>
> On Oct 14, 8:05 pm, DebCV  wrote:
> > I have a dev wave but do not seem to be able to find any waves or
> > others with wave account to interact with.
> > : (
> >
> > When I popup the debug window I get this information:
> >
> > WaveId:wavesandbox.com!w+0UTVeyIIC
> >
> > WaveletId:wavesandbox.com!user+cvl...@wavesandbox.com
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2:01 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > At this time, we are not giving Google Wave preview accounts to new
> Wave
> > > Sandbox accounts. I would suggest filling out the form at
> wave.google.com.
> > > - pamela
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Thomas Vander Wal <
> infocl...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > My wait for sandbox access finally ended today, but I am wondering if
> > > > I have to queue from scratch for the preview? Will preview invite be
> > > > added to newly added/created sandbox accounts? I am
> > > > vander...@wavesandbox.com
> >
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Thomas
> >
> > > > On Oct 7, 5:24 pm, "pamela (Google employee)" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > We have received some reports of developers that have not yet
> received
> > > > > invites for Google Wave preview in their sandbox account. If you
> think
> > > > > you are one of them, please do a search first for "Enable your
> Google
> > > > > \/\/ave Account" (with a funny "W") to check for the invite wave.
> >
> > > > > We haven't yet figured out why the invites aren't there for some of
> > > > > you, and are looking into the issue. Thanks for your patience.
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[pamela (Google Employee)]

Hey Sam-
Here it is:
http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api/web/using-setmodecallback-with-gadgets

-
pamela

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Waiting for that post!
>
> 2009/10/15 pamela (Google Employee) 
>
> No, you can edit it. What made you think it was read-only?
>> On the contrary, in fact. We are thinking of making it so that a gadget
>> must put the blip in edit mode in order to save state, so there is an
>> in-blip consistency. I'll post more about that shortly.
>>
>> Right now, a gadget can save state whenever.
>>
>> - pamela
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Solomon Wu  wrote:
>>
>>> Cool!Is that particular wave a read-only wave?  If so, does that mean
>>> that there will be a way in the future to lock the content of the blip while
>>> still allowing gadget to save state?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
>>> pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hey developers-
 I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize
 where all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering 
 library
 called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
 people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
 So, go add yourself:


 https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA

 Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
 http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml

 - pamela




>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Write-up posted: Using setModeCallback with Gadgets

[pamela (Google Employee)]

Hi developers-
Some of you noticed the existence of some new functionality in the Gadgets
API - the setModeCallback function.

I have written up a description of why we introduced this, how you can use
it, and how we are thinking of improving it in the future. I would recommend
all gadget authors read this, and I welcome feedback and examples of usage.

http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api/web/using-setmodecallback-with-gadgets

Thanks!

- pamela

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Various questions: 1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular account?

[Sam Osborne]

1. See above, that's, I think, correct
2. Check your Google Account settings, go into picture settings then account
settings: you need a public profile.
3. You can't use "normal" Google accounts on the sandbox, though you can use
your normal Google account if you're on the preview, just change the @
googlemail.com/@gmail.com to @googlewave.com

2009/10/15 Solomon Wu 

> I am trying to answer this with the very little knowledge I have, I could
> be wrong.1. sandbox wave and preview wave servers are not federated yet.
>  So sandbox users cannot talk to preview users.  I think I saw that
> somewhere in the forum.
>
> 2. I was not able to see that until I change the picture setting to
> "Visible to everyone"
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:32 AM, John Black wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular Wave
>> account?
>>
>> 2. I have a two Dev. Sandbox accounts for testing but I can never see
>> the pictures of the other account. Known issue?
>>
>> 3. I have a regular Gmail account. Can I use it, instead of my new
>> Wave Sandbox account for my ID? Is there a good reason not too?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[Sam Osborne]

Waiting for that post!

2009/10/15 pamela (Google Employee) 

> No, you can edit it. What made you think it was read-only?
> On the contrary, in fact. We are thinking of making it so that a gadget
> must put the blip in edit mode in order to save state, so there is an
> in-blip consistency. I'll post more about that shortly.
>
> Right now, a gadget can save state whenever.
>
> - pamela
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Solomon Wu  wrote:
>
>> Cool!Is that particular wave a read-only wave?  If so, does that mean
>> that there will be a way in the future to lock the content of the blip while
>> still allowing gadget to save state?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
>> pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey developers-
>>> I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize
>>> where all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
>>> called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
>>> people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
>>> So, go add yourself:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA
>>>
>>> Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
>>> http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
>>>
>>> - pamela
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Embed API

[Sam Osborne]

Seeing as my Internet is actually awful, I'm struggling.. I won't really
know until we get an upgrade on Saturday.. Woot!
Can I have a look at the code you're using (just the Wave bits)?

2009/10/15 Anuj 

>
> Tried but no luck, have you been successful in embedding.
>
> On Oct 15, 2:40 pm, Sam Osborne  wrote:
> > I think so... You just need to change some of the code to adapt to the
> > preview.
> >
> > 2009/10/14 Anuj 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Do the 10 users invited for preview have access to the Embed API
> > > functions?
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Various questions: 1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular account?

[Solomon Wu]

I am trying to answer this with the very little knowledge I have, I could be
wrong.1. sandbox wave and preview wave servers are not federated yet.  So
sandbox users cannot talk to preview users.  I think I saw that somewhere in
the forum.

2. I was not able to see that until I change the picture setting to "Visible
to everyone"

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:32 AM, John Black wrote:

>
> 1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular Wave
> account?
>
> 2. I have a two Dev. Sandbox accounts for testing but I can never see
> the pictures of the other account. Known issue?
>
> 3. I have a regular Gmail account. Can I use it, instead of my new
> Wave Sandbox account for my ID? Is there a good reason not too?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Inbox updating slowly and unreliably

[PJ Gray]

Yeah I think stuff is just generally flakey, especially during peak usage
times.

-pj



On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Lee  wrote:

>
> I've noticed that profile information seems to be missing for robots
> too - I don't know if anyone else has?
>
> Lee
>
> On Oct 14, 9:41 pm, Javier Fernandez Ballesteros 
> wrote:
> > I've notice this errors today to.
> >
> > Un saludo,
> >
> > Javi
> >
> > 2009/10/14 Eric Kidd 
> >
> >
> >
> > > Two developers where I work are seeing inbox-related problems:
> >
> > > 1) New waves don't show up in the inbox until an hour or so after
> > > they're created.
> > > 2) Read/unread/blip count information does not update promptly.
> > > 3) Waves may also be missing from the "All" list.
> >
> > > I'm guessing this problem is already known, but just in case it
> > > wasn't, I thought I would mention it.
> >
> > > If you'd like wave addresses or wave IDs, I can supply them via e-
> > > mail.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Eric
> >
> >
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[pamela (Google Employee)]

No, you can edit it. What made you think it was read-only?
On the contrary, in fact. We are thinking of making it so that a gadget must
put the blip in edit mode in order to save state, so there is an in-blip
consistency. I'll post more about that shortly.

Right now, a gadget can save state whenever.

- pamela

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Solomon Wu  wrote:

> Cool!Is that particular wave a read-only wave?  If so, does that mean that
> there will be a way in the future to lock the content of the blip while
> still allowing gadget to save state?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
> pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey developers-
>> I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize
>> where all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
>> called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
>> people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
>> So, go add yourself:
>>
>>
>> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA
>>
>> Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
>> http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
>>
>> - pamela
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: newbee: trying python robots tutorial

[TheComedian]

same here. i have the same problem. I have "waveapi" folder in the
robot folder. doesn't quite work. someone knows a fix? in the app.yaml
file is there a need of change in the "api_version: 1" entry? my api
date is 20090916.

thanks.

On Oct 3, 7:00 am, Greg Tracy  wrote:
> So I'm running into this same problem... I've followed the tutorial to
> a tee and have the following file structure:
>
> WAVE-BOT
>  + waveapi
>    - ...
>  - app.yaml
>  - myWaveRobot.py
>
> But I have the same import error you saw,
>
> : No module named waveapi
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/base/data/home/apps/tweeterfeed/1.336760332375686810/src/
> myWaveRobot.py", line 1, in 
>     from waveapi import events
>
> @thomas - what do you mean exactly when you say, "have that as a
> directory under my project file." Does your directory structure look
> like mine?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Aug 9, 1:26 am, Thomas  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I got it...
>
> > I just added my files into that directory  (waveapis) -- but what i
> > really needed to do - was have that as a directory under my project
> > file... so that the api is all available to my sources.  ( duh )
>
> > The tutorial just needs to be more stupid and explain that to dummies
> > like me... doh.
>
> > Ok I got it - now my robot responds on my wavesandbox account!
>
> > woo hoo!
>
> > :)
>
> > thanks for the help guys.
>
> > cheers
>
> > Tj
>
> > On Aug 8, 11:17 pm, Thomas  wrote:
>
> > > aha... I was only looking at the app uploader log... I didnt think to
> > > look at the admin logs... and there are two different kinds!
>
> > > Heres the problem from an error log:
>
> > > 08-08 10:51PM 49.510 /_wave/capabilities.xml 500 73ms 139cpu_ms 0kb
> > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.0 (KHTML, like
> > > Gecko) Chrome/3.0.198.0 Safari/532.0,gzip(gfe)
> > > 78.34.122.150 - - [08/Aug/2009:22:51:49 -0700] "GET /_wave/
> > > capabilities.xml HTTP/1.1" 500 0 - "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686;
> > > en-US) AppleWebKit/532.0 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/3.0.198.0 Safari/
> > > 532.0,gzip(gfe)" "ojingolabs.appspot.com"
> > > E 08-08 10:51PM 49.581
> > > : No module named waveapi
> > > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > >   File "/base/data/home/apps/ojingolabs/1.335468159210324108/
> > > ojingolabs.py", line 1, in 
> > >     from waveapi import events
>
> > >  end log
>
> > > No module named waveapi  ??  they are right - I dont see a file named
> > > waveapi --  I got an entire directory named waveapi - and I added my
> > > app.yaml file and edited appname.py file in that directory structure
> > > and uploaded that...
>
> > > did I do something goofy?  seems like i did... can someone help from
> > > this info?
>
> > > cheers
>
> > > Tj
>
> > > On Aug 8, 10:54 pm, Andi Albrecht 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Your code looks good at first sight. Anything in the logs?
>
> > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Anthoni 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi Thomas,
>
> > > > > How you mean you chmod'd the files ?
> > > > > How are you actually uploading the files ?
> > > > > The robots need to be uploaded using the appcfg.py
> > > > > I too followed the Google tutorial to the letter (written in Python)
> > > > > and I successfully deployed my robot.
>
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Anthoni
>
> > > > > On Aug 9, 3:11 am, Thomas  wrote:
> > > > >> hi
>
> > > > >> I uploaded the entire API folder - all I did was add my two files...
>
> > > > >> app.yaml
>
> > > > >> and
>
> > > > >> ojingolabs.py
>
> > > > >> I also made sure to chmod those files ( but did this on the second 
> > > > >> re-
> > > > >> upload as I started to try and figure out whats wrong... )
>
> > > > >> ... ?
>
> > > > >> still confused.
>
> > > > >> Tj
>
> > > > >> On Aug 8, 7:01 pm, Anthoni  wrote:
>
> > > > >> > Hi,
>
> > > > >> > Silly question, but have you uploaded the Robot API code as well ?
> > > > >> > For some reason each robot needs it's own API folder in order to 
> > > > >> > work.
> > > > >> > Been told this is you can use different versions of the API on your
> > > > >> > robots and only update when you require it.
>
> > > > >> > Just a thought
>
> > > > >> > Regards
> > > > >> > Anthoni
>
> > > > >> > On Aug 9, 2:54 am, Thomas  wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > Heres my code:
>
> > > > >> > > application: ojingolabs
> > > > >> > > version: 1
> > > > >> > > runtime: python
> > > > >> > > api_version: 1
>
> > > > >> > > handlers:
> > > > >> > > - url: /_wave/.*
> > > > >> > >   script: ojingolabs.py
> > > > >> > > - url: /assets
> > > > >> > >   static_dir: assets
>
> > > > >> > > then heres the ojingolabs.py
> > > > >> > > --
>
> > > > >> > > from waveapi import events
> > > > >> > > from waveapi import model
> > > > >> > > from waveapi import robot
>
> > > > >> > > def OnParticipantsChanged(properties, context):
> > > > >> > >   """Invoked when any participants have been added/removed."""
> > > > >> > >   added = properties['participantsAdded']
> > > > >> > >   for

[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[Solomon Wu]

Cool!Is that particular wave a read-only wave?  If so, does that mean that
there will be a way in the future to lock the content of the blip while
still allowing gadget to save state?


On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:51 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey developers-
> I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize where
> all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
> called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
> people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
> So, go add yourself:
>
>
> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA
>
> Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
> http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
>
> - pamela
>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Inbox updating slowly and unreliably

[Lee]

I've noticed that profile information seems to be missing for robots
too - I don't know if anyone else has?

Lee

On Oct 14, 9:41 pm, Javier Fernandez Ballesteros 
wrote:
> I've notice this errors today to.
>
> Un saludo,
>
> Javi
>
> 2009/10/14 Eric Kidd 
>
>
>
> > Two developers where I work are seeing inbox-related problems:
>
> > 1) New waves don't show up in the inbox until an hour or so after
> > they're created.
> > 2) Read/unread/blip count information does not update promptly.
> > 3) Waves may also be missing from the "All" list.
>
> > I'm guessing this problem is already known, but just in case it
> > wasn't, I thought I would mention it.
>
> > If you'd like wave addresses or wave IDs, I can supply them via e-
> > mail.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Eric
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[Joe Developer]

You must be pretty tall to be straddling the pacific like that. ;)

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:51 PM, pamela (Google Employee) <
pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey developers-
> I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize where
> all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
> called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
> people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
> So, go add yourself:
>
>
> https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA
>
> Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
> http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml
>
> - pamela
>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Position calculcations, range handling and offsets

[Chris C.]

Quick follow up - I was working with Watexy, which replaces text with
LaTex rendered images of the same text (you surround the string to be
replaced with $$), and it looks like images may take up 0 character
"spaces." If you experiment with the Watexy bot, you'll find that if
you replace 2 separate equations in a single line of text, one of them
- the first - will work properly, and the second will not. However, if
you count the length of the _text_ in each, the difference comes out
to the total length of the replaced text..

The text I used to test was the 34 character string:

Testing $$10x2=20$$ and $$3^2 = 9$$

When modified by Watexy, you get 12 characters of text, with the
images inserted where noted.

Testing (Image) a(Image)9$$

The total length of the text replaced by Watexy is 22 characters,
which means - if I've got my head on straight - the two images take up
no string space. Thus, your offset would be based solely on the length
of the URL's being replaced, and doesn't have to account for the size
of the image. Hope a) I got that right, and b) it helps!

On Oct 15, 10:37 am, "Chris C."  wrote:
> I have no idea. Images may count as one "character" position, but I'm
> not sure. You could experiment on that basis, and just subtract from
> the start point of each match the cumulative length of all previous
> matches, and see if that works. I basically had to mess with numbers
> and offsets (and do manual counting of characters to see how things
> moved) to get it right for my robot.
>
> I think that one of the things that would be most helpful - especially
> for me, as an amateur, but probably for everyone - is more clarity on
> what kind of content is being seen. I know that we only want to work
> through the interfaces provided - and that Wave is changing under the
> hood all the time - but some more information on document structure,
> annotation capabilities, available markup, etc. would be a great
> resource.
>
> On Oct 15, 3:56 am, Chris Searle  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 4:46 pm, "Chris C."  wrote:
>
> > > I was going to suggest an offset variable, but as you say, it appears
> > > that the subsequent regex search is on the just-updated text. I'm not
> > > sure what the issue is (I have a dice rolling bot that uses regex and
> > > inserts results after the relevant dice expression, and I use an
> > > offset variable to adjust the insertion points by an amount equal to
> > > the length of what was inserted on the previous iteration). Perhaps
> > > there's a mutability issue with doc.getText()? I use Java, so I don't
> > > know how that works.
>
> > I could try this - but - how much offset is an image?
>
> > It seems a little strange to me - but - then I feel a little unclear
> > about the blip's document structure. What is the result of getText()
> > when the blip contains media for example. The same applies to knowing
> > what formatting you can add (want to have a nice title, the image and
> > a couple of links - one to the image page one to the image license -
> > but I don't yet know how to apply this kind of formatting
> > programatically).
>
> > I could do the "get all matches in list, reverse it and then apply" -
> > but that seems less elegant.
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[Google Wave APIs] Trouble uploading Gadget's xml

[bxgirten]

I point to a perfectly valid URI

http://demo.biogadgets.net/exist/gwave/wavegadget.xml

but after clicking the Add XML button, the dialog disappears and
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Embed API

[Anuj]

Tried but no luck, have you been successful in embedding.

On Oct 15, 2:40 pm, Sam Osborne  wrote:
> I think so... You just need to change some of the code to adapt to the
> preview.
>
> 2009/10/14 Anuj 
>
>
>
>
>
> > Do the 10 users invited for preview have access to the Embed API
> > functions?

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[Google Wave APIs] Various questions: 1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular account?

[John Black]

1. Can testers with Dev. Sandbox account see Users with Regular Wave
account?

2. I have a two Dev. Sandbox accounts for testing but I can never see
the pictures of the other account. Known issue?

3. I have a regular Gmail account. Can I use it, instead of my new
Wave Sandbox account for my ID? Is there a good reason not too?

Thanks,
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[Google Wave APIs] Mapping Wave Developers (With a Gadget)

[pamela (Google Employee)]

Hey developers-
I put together a quick map gadget to see if we could easily visualize where
all of you are from. The gadget uses an open-source clustering library
called MarkerClusterer, so the hope is that it can respond well if many
people use it. But, the only way to tell is to get many people to use it..
So, go add yourself:

https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#minimized:nav,minimized:contact,minimized:search,restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BCmz5eV0gA

Code is here (will post on samples gallery in a bit):
http://imagine-it.org/google/wave/mapcluster.xml

- pamela

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Position calculcations, range handling and offsets

[Chris C.]

I have no idea. Images may count as one "character" position, but I'm
not sure. You could experiment on that basis, and just subtract from
the start point of each match the cumulative length of all previous
matches, and see if that works. I basically had to mess with numbers
and offsets (and do manual counting of characters to see how things
moved) to get it right for my robot.

I think that one of the things that would be most helpful - especially
for me, as an amateur, but probably for everyone - is more clarity on
what kind of content is being seen. I know that we only want to work
through the interfaces provided - and that Wave is changing under the
hood all the time - but some more information on document structure,
annotation capabilities, available markup, etc. would be a great
resource.

On Oct 15, 3:56 am, Chris Searle  wrote:
> On Oct 14, 4:46 pm, "Chris C."  wrote:
>
> > I was going to suggest an offset variable, but as you say, it appears
> > that the subsequent regex search is on the just-updated text. I'm not
> > sure what the issue is (I have a dice rolling bot that uses regex and
> > inserts results after the relevant dice expression, and I use an
> > offset variable to adjust the insertion points by an amount equal to
> > the length of what was inserted on the previous iteration). Perhaps
> > there's a mutability issue with doc.getText()? I use Java, so I don't
> > know how that works.
>
> I could try this - but - how much offset is an image?
>
> It seems a little strange to me - but - then I feel a little unclear
> about the blip's document structure. What is the result of getText()
> when the blip contains media for example. The same applies to knowing
> what formatting you can add (want to have a nice title, the image and
> a couple of links - one to the image page one to the image license -
> but I don't yet know how to apply this kind of formatting
> programatically).
>
> I could do the "get all matches in list, reverse it and then apply" -
> but that seems less elegant.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Dwonlaod Avira 2010 and key 2014

[pamela (Google employee)]

FYI: Spammers are now using addresses of approved Group members to
bypass moderation. Groups is looking into it.

On Oct 15, 11:02 pm, "Avira"  wrote:
> Dwonlaod Avira 2010 and key 2014
>
>
>
> http://bit.ly/2dWFN5
>
>
>
> http://bit.ly/2dWFN5
>
>
>
> Dwonlaod Avira 2010 and key 2014
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: FYI: Missing Sandbox -> Preview Invites

[JoE]

I lost my password to the sandbox, so I can't get my invite.

Username: JoeHillen

thank you

On Oct 14, 8:05 pm, DebCV  wrote:
> I have a dev wave but do not seem to be able to find any waves or
> others with wave account to interact with.
> : (
>
> When I popup the debug window I get this information:
>
> WaveId:wavesandbox.com!w+0UTVeyIIC
>
> WaveletId:wavesandbox.com!user+cvl...@wavesandbox.com
>
> On Oct 13, 2:01 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> wrote:
>
> > At this time, we are not giving Google Wave preview accounts to new Wave
> > Sandbox accounts. I would suggest filling out the form at wave.google.com.
> > - pamela
>
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Thomas Vander Wal 
> > wrote:
>
> > > My wait for sandbox access finally ended today, but I am wondering if
> > > I have to queue from scratch for the preview? Will preview invite be
> > > added to newly added/created sandbox accounts? I am
> > > vander...@wavesandbox.com
>
> > > All the best,
> > > Thomas
>
> > > On Oct 7, 5:24 pm, "pamela (Google employee)" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > We have received some reports of developers that have not yet received
> > > > invites for Google Wave preview in their sandbox account. If you think
> > > > you are one of them, please do a search first for "Enable your Google
> > > > \/\/ave Account" (with a funny "W") to check for the invite wave.
>
> > > > We haven't yet figured out why the invites aren't there for some of
> > > > you, and are looking into the issue. Thanks for your patience.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Forgot password

[Jay Chan]

I haven't noticed much activity on this thread in a while.  Have any
of you gotten the help that you've requested?

I've followed Pamela and Brian's suggestions, but have not heard back
in almost 2 weeks.  I bet you guys are pretty busy, however. ;-)

On Sep 22, 2:59 pm, "pamela fox (Google employee)"
 wrote:
> There is a surprising number of developers that have lost their
> password (and here I thought everyone followed my philosophy of using
> the same password for everything), and it is taking us time to respond
> to all of them. As Brian said, we'll be working on it over the next
> few weeks.
>
> To those of you reading this that have lost your password, please
> forward us the original "Get Ready to Wave" email to make it easy to
> locate your account and verify you as the owner. If you cannot find
> that, then atleast specify your full username. Thanks!
>
> - pamela
>
> On Sep 22, 3:24 am, fvisticot  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Same pb and not support for Google Wave team :(
> > Any idea ???
>
> > On 21 sep, 18:02, Sam Osborne  wrote:
>
> > > Yeah... I've forgotten the one I set for my test account... Can't seem to 
> > > be
> > > able to log in with it (whether that was migrated along with the proper 
> > > one
> > > I'm not sure)...
>
> > > 2009/9/21 Aaman 
>
> > > > I seem to have forgotten my password for the Wave Sandbox and don't
> > > > see any option to reset the password other than a note to contact my
> > > > 'domain administrator'
>
> > > > Please help. My wave sandbox id is aamanlamba

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Position calculcations, range handling and offsets

[Chris Searle]

On Oct 14, 4:46 pm, "Chris C."  wrote:
> I was going to suggest an offset variable, but as you say, it appears
> that the subsequent regex search is on the just-updated text. I'm not
> sure what the issue is (I have a dice rolling bot that uses regex and
> inserts results after the relevant dice expression, and I use an
> offset variable to adjust the insertion points by an amount equal to
> the length of what was inserted on the previous iteration). Perhaps
> there's a mutability issue with doc.getText()? I use Java, so I don't
> know how that works.

I could try this - but - how much offset is an image?

It seems a little strange to me - but - then I feel a little unclear
about the blip's document structure. What is the result of getText()
when the blip contains media for example. The same applies to knowing
what formatting you can add (want to have a nice title, the image and
a couple of links - one to the image page one to the image license -
but I don't yet know how to apply this kind of formatting
programatically).

I could do the "get all matches in list, reverse it and then apply" -
but that seems less elegant.

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