Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[Ümit Seren]

You can actually use a CellWidgets and render any HTML content you like
(divs, spans,etc).  You are not bound to row/column like representations.
For example I used CellWidgets to create "information cards" (containing
some text and a picture and some links).
You can then drop the CellWidgets anywhere you like.

Or you can also implement your own CellTableBuilder to create your own
representations that doesn't rely on tables/td/trs




On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:18 AM, stuckagain  wrote:

> I glanced at the CellWidgets and Cell.Context class and it does look too
> much row/column based to me.
>
> I am still not convinced that this is what I need, but I will try and
> setup some proof of concept to use CellWidgets. On the other hand, this is
> really mostly a client side technology, while I need the ability to also
> render serverside, used for reporting or for slower browsers.
>
> I'm rendering a form defined in a XSD, the XSD can be a few megabytes big,
> so we are talking about huge forms here. And the layout needs to be
> flexible, not constraint to row/column positioning like in a table or tree.
> Although a tree does come very close to what I need, so if I can finetune
> the CellTree maybe I can get close to what I want. if only we had a
> CellTreeTable with scrolling, resizeable columns, ... etc.
>
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:00:45 AM UTC+2, Ümit Seren wrote:
>>
>> Well you can use a CellWidget (http://google-web-toolkit.**
>> googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/**latest/com/google/gwt/user/**
>> cellview/client/CellWidget.**html
>> ).
>> The nice thing is that you can actually create a custom cell that you can
>> use inside a DataGrid/CellTable/CellList/**CellTree and also use it
>> outside of these via a CellWidget.
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:37:04 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The HTML that is being put in the HTMLPanel is generated and inserted as
>>> one big HTML string.
>>> The HTML can either be generated in Javascript or on the server.
>>>
>>> If CellWidgets are an alternative then I am certainly interested in
>>> checking them out, but I though they were only useful in CellTable and
>>> CellTree.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:36:23 PM UTC+2, Ümit Seren wrote:

 Any reason for not using CellWidgets instead of HTMLPanels ?


 On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:18:33 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the
> migration to gwtproject ?
> I recently added a few and I hope that sometimes they will be sorted
> out.
>
> My last one was a performance bottleneck on HTMLPanel with many
> widgets being added
> (due to the very inefficient WidgetCollection implementation).
> https://code.google.com/p/**google-web-toolkit/issues/**detail?id=8105
>
> After looking at my reported bugs, I can see that most of my bug
> reports never made it to being implemented or even accepted or rejected
> (one got fixed quickly since I contributed the change)
> I hope that the gwtproject will improve on this - it is a really
> frustrating feeling and makes me wonder if I should stick on using GWT and
> reorient to non google technologies instead (Axing Google Reader will
> probably drive me over the edge if I don't find a decent alternative 
> pretty
> soon).
>
> David
>
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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[stuckagain]

I glanced at the CellWidgets and Cell.Context class and it does look too 
much row/column based to me.

I am still not convinced that this is what I need, but I will try and setup 
some proof of concept to use CellWidgets. On the other hand, this is really 
mostly a client side technology, while I need the ability to also render 
serverside, used for reporting or for slower browsers.

I'm rendering a form defined in a XSD, the XSD can be a few megabytes big, 
so we are talking about huge forms here. And the layout needs to be 
flexible, not constraint to row/column positioning like in a table or tree. 
Although a tree does come very close to what I need, so if I can finetune 
the CellTree maybe I can get close to what I want. if only we had a 
CellTreeTable with scrolling, resizeable columns, ... etc. 

David

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:00:45 AM UTC+2, Ümit Seren wrote:
>
> Well you can use a CellWidget (
> http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/latest/com/google/gwt/user/cellview/client/CellWidget.html
> ). 
> The nice thing is that you can actually create a custom cell that you can 
> use inside a DataGrid/CellTable/CellList/CellTree and also use it outside 
> of these via a CellWidget.
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:37:04 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The HTML that is being put in the HTMLPanel is generated and inserted as 
>> one big HTML string.
>> The HTML can either be generated in Javascript or on the server.
>>
>> If CellWidgets are an alternative then I am certainly interested in 
>> checking them out, but I though they were only useful in CellTable and 
>> CellTree.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:36:23 PM UTC+2, Ümit Seren wrote:
>>>
>>> Any reason for not using CellWidgets instead of HTMLPanels ? 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:18:33 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:

 Hi,

 Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the 
 migration to gwtproject ?
 I recently added a few and I hope that sometimes they will be sorted 
 out.

 My last one was a performance bottleneck on HTMLPanel with many widgets 
 being added 
 (due to the very inefficient WidgetCollection implementation).
 https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8105

 After looking at my reported bugs, I can see that most of my bug 
 reports never made it to being implemented or even accepted or rejected 
 (one got fixed quickly since I contributed the change)
 I hope that the gwtproject will improve on this - it is a really 
 frustrating feeling and makes me wonder if I should stick on using GWT and 
 reorient to non google technologies instead (Axing Google Reader will 
 probably drive me over the edge if I don't find a decent alternative 
 pretty 
 soon). 

 David

>>>

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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[Ümit Seren]

Well you can use a CellWidget (
http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/javadoc/latest/com/google/gwt/user/cellview/client/CellWidget.html
). 
The nice thing is that you can actually create a custom cell that you can 
use inside a DataGrid/CellTable/CellList/CellTree and also use it outside 
of these via a CellWidget.

On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:37:04 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The HTML that is being put in the HTMLPanel is generated and inserted as 
> one big HTML string.
> The HTML can either be generated in Javascript or on the server.
>
> If CellWidgets are an alternative then I am certainly interested in 
> checking them out, but I though they were only useful in CellTable and 
> CellTree.
>
> David
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:36:23 PM UTC+2, Ümit Seren wrote:
>>
>> Any reason for not using CellWidgets instead of HTMLPanels ? 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:18:33 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the 
>>> migration to gwtproject ?
>>> I recently added a few and I hope that sometimes they will be sorted out.
>>>
>>> My last one was a performance bottleneck on HTMLPanel with many widgets 
>>> being added 
>>> (due to the very inefficient WidgetCollection implementation).
>>> https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8105
>>>
>>> After looking at my reported bugs, I can see that most of my bug reports 
>>> never made it to being implemented or even accepted or rejected (one got 
>>> fixed quickly since I contributed the change)
>>> I hope that the gwtproject will improve on this - it is a really 
>>> frustrating feeling and makes me wonder if I should stick on using GWT and 
>>> reorient to non google technologies instead (Axing Google Reader will 
>>> probably drive me over the edge if I don't find a decent alternative pretty 
>>> soon). 
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>

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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[Thomas Broyer]

On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:18:33 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the 
> migration to gwtproject ?
>

We have no plan to move the issue tracker. At least not in the near-future.

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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[Jens]

>
>
> That would be an understatement :-) 
>
> I am still positive that the bug triage disaster gets fixed because that 
> is fundamental to the success of opensource. And I saw in the gwt-steering 
> news group that they are going for some interesting roadmap, so I live in 
> hope.
> I would love to contribute, but only if I can be sure that it will get 
> accepted (most of the time).
>

In fact if GWT would have a really good issue tracker then the issue 
tracker itself would give you a pretty good picture about the roadmap 
(excluding "features" that are not related to source code). 
I think the GWT team is happy about all contributions and if they pass the 
code review I don't see an issue with accepting contributions. If an issue 
isn't noticed but you have a patch ready then you should just "ping" on the 
contributors group.


 

> I can not keep on defending the usage of GWT to my boss/company if we 
> don't get some minimal feedback and support. I need to do a technology 
> assessment right now, and I really don't know how to defend the choice 
> right now.
> Some people have talked about AngularJS, Dart and other interesting 
> technologies, but that is Google tech as well, so potentially subject to be 
> scrapped much faster than what we like.
>

Totally understandable.  Especially if your boss asks "How many open issues 
does GWT have?" and you must answer "~2600" :-) Maybe its worth it to kick 
the current issue tracker, create a new one and asking people to resubmit 
their issues if they feel its worth it and the GWT version isn't too old. 
Issues you loose that way will be resubmitted sooner or later by others. 
Cleaning up the current issue tracker is probably to much work. 


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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[stuckagain]

Jens,

That would be an understatement :-) 

I am still positive that the bug triage disaster gets fixed because that is 
fundamental to the success of opensource. And I saw in the gwt-steering 
news group that they are going for some interesting roadmap, so I live in 
hope.
I would love to contribute, but only if I can be sure that it will get 
accepted (most of the time).

I can not keep on defending the usage of GWT to my boss/company if we don't 
get some minimal feedback and support. I need to do a technology assessment 
right now, and I really don't know how to defend the choice right now.
Some people have talked about AngularJS, Dart and other interesting 
technologies, but that is Google tech as well, so potentially subject to be 
scrapped much faster than what we like.

As for Feedly: it does not work in IE. I need Chrome, iOS and IE support 
for a feed reader. But let's not dwell on this subject in this newsgroup. 

David

On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:00:24 PM UTC+2, Jens wrote:
>
> You can still file bugs to the tracker. I guess its just missing men power 
> to keep the tracker up-to-date and verify/triage issues. Also the tracker 
> is pretty huge and issues can be missed easily, especially if they are not 
> up-voted. 
>
> Regarding Google Reader: I switched to feedly and it works pretty well.
>
> -- J.
>

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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[stuckagain]

Hi,

The HTML that is being put in the HTMLPanel is generated and inserted as 
one big HTML string.
The HTML can either be generated in Javascript or on the server.

If CellWidgets are an alternative then I am certainly interested in 
checking them out, but I though they were only useful in CellTable and 
CellTree.

David

On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:36:23 PM UTC+2, Ümit Seren wrote:
>
> Any reason for not using CellWidgets instead of HTMLPanels ? 
>
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:18:33 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the 
>> migration to gwtproject ?
>> I recently added a few and I hope that sometimes they will be sorted out.
>>
>> My last one was a performance bottleneck on HTMLPanel with many widgets 
>> being added 
>> (due to the very inefficient WidgetCollection implementation).
>> https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8105
>>
>> After looking at my reported bugs, I can see that most of my bug reports 
>> never made it to being implemented or even accepted or rejected (one got 
>> fixed quickly since I contributed the change)
>> I hope that the gwtproject will improve on this - it is a really 
>> frustrating feeling and makes me wonder if I should stick on using GWT and 
>> reorient to non google technologies instead (Axing Google Reader will 
>> probably drive me over the edge if I don't find a decent alternative pretty 
>> soon). 
>>
>> David
>>
>

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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[Jens]

You can still file bugs to the tracker. I guess its just missing men power 
to keep the tracker up-to-date and verify/triage issues. Also the tracker 
is pretty huge and issues can be missed easily, especially if they are not 
up-voted. 

Regarding Google Reader: I switched to feedly and it works pretty well.

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Re: GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[Ümit Seren]

Any reason for not using CellWidgets instead of HTMLPanels ? 


On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:18:33 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the 
> migration to gwtproject ?
> I recently added a few and I hope that sometimes they will be sorted out.
>
> My last one was a performance bottleneck on HTMLPanel with many widgets 
> being added 
> (due to the very inefficient WidgetCollection implementation).
> https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8105
>
> After looking at my reported bugs, I can see that most of my bug reports 
> never made it to being implemented or even accepted or rejected (one got 
> fixed quickly since I contributed the change)
> I hope that the gwtproject will improve on this - it is a really 
> frustrating feeling and makes me wonder if I should stick on using GWT and 
> reorient to non google technologies instead (Axing Google Reader will 
> probably drive me over the edge if I don't find a decent alternative pretty 
> soon). 
>
> David
>

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GWT issues while waiting for gwtproject ?

[stuckagain]

Hi,

Are we allowed to add bugs in the bugtracking in the middle of the 
migration to gwtproject ?
I recently added a few and I hope that sometimes they will be sorted out.

My last one was a performance bottleneck on HTMLPanel with many widgets 
being added 
(due to the very inefficient WidgetCollection implementation).
https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8105

After looking at my reported bugs, I can see that most of my bug reports 
never made it to being implemented or even accepted or rejected (one got 
fixed quickly since I contributed the change)
I hope that the gwtproject will improve on this - it is a really 
frustrating feeling and makes me wonder if I should stick on using GWT and 
reorient to non google technologies instead (Axing Google Reader will 
probably drive me over the edge if I don't find a decent alternative pretty 
soon). 

David

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