Re: [GRASS-user] exporting only a table from a vector

2008-08-01 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Friday 01 August 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 16:19 -0300, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
> [...]
>
> > 2008/8/1, Nikos Alexandris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> [...]
>
> > Hi Milton.
> >
> > If you use sqlite as DBMS you can open your sqlite.db file
> > with
> > sqlitebrowser and export your table of interest as a .csv
> > file. Later
> > you can import for example in openoffice for further editing.
>
> [...]
>

db.select should do what you want. I use it regularly to make CSV file for 
export.

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Re: [GRASS-user] exporting only a table from a vector

2008-08-01 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 16:19 -0300, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
[...]
> 
>  
> 2008/8/1, Nikos Alexandris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
[...]
> Hi Milton.
> 
> If you use sqlite as DBMS you can open your sqlite.db file
> with
> sqlitebrowser and export your table of interest as a .csv
> file. Later
> you can import for example in openoffice for further editing.
[...]

Milton, I assume it works for you this way. Anyway, I am writing back to
note that it was not my intention NOT to cc in the list. For some reason
I don't hit always the reply-to-all button lately :-?

Cheers, Nikos


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Re: [GRASS-user] d.rast.edit issues

2008-08-01 Thread Adam Dershowitz


On Aug 1, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Glynn Clements wrote:



Adam Dershowitz wrote:


I am trying to use d.rast.edit and I can't get it to work properly.
If I open it, either from the menu, or from the command line, it  
seems

to open fine, but the size of my overview window is much larger then
the size of my screen, so I can't see much of the window.  If I  
resize

the window then I don't get any scroll bars, so that doesn't help.


That's a bug in d.rast.edit. The overview window consists of three
parts: the canvas (the portion containing the map), the vertical
scrollbar and the horizontal scrollbar. The canvas is supposed to grow
or shrink along with the top-level window, leaving the scrollbars with
a fixed width (vertical) or height (horizontal). However, the weights
were set on the wrong window, so everything tries to remain a fixed
size.

I have committed a fix in the current development version, but you can
fix the problem locally by changing lines 157-158 of
grass-6.3.0/etc/d.rast.edit.tcl from:

grid rowconfigure. 0 -weight 1
grid columnconfigure . 0 -weight 1
to:
grid rowconfigure.overview 0 -weight 1
grid columnconfigure .overview 0 -weight 1

With that change, the scrollbars should remain visible if the overview
window is shrunk.

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That did it!
Thank you.

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Re: [GRASS-user] d.rast.edit issues

2008-08-01 Thread Glynn Clements

Adam Dershowitz wrote:

> I am trying to use d.rast.edit and I can't get it to work properly.   
> If I open it, either from the menu, or from the command line, it seems  
> to open fine, but the size of my overview window is much larger then  
> the size of my screen, so I can't see much of the window.  If I resize  
> the window then I don't get any scroll bars, so that doesn't help.

That's a bug in d.rast.edit. The overview window consists of three
parts: the canvas (the portion containing the map), the vertical
scrollbar and the horizontal scrollbar. The canvas is supposed to grow
or shrink along with the top-level window, leaving the scrollbars with
a fixed width (vertical) or height (horizontal). However, the weights
were set on the wrong window, so everything tries to remain a fixed
size.

I have committed a fix in the current development version, but you can
fix the problem locally by changing lines 157-158 of
grass-6.3.0/etc/d.rast.edit.tcl from:

grid rowconfigure. 0 -weight 1
grid columnconfigure . 0 -weight 1
to:
grid rowconfigure.overview 0 -weight 1
grid columnconfigure .overview 0 -weight 1

With that change, the scrollbars should remain visible if the overview
window is shrunk.

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Re: [GRASS-user] XTF reader neede - triton format for sonar

2008-08-01 Thread G. Allegri
Thanks Thierry for answering.
AFAIK the XTF I've been given were tranformed form original KEB files.
If I'm not wrong these formats are produced by Knudsen systems.
I new about MBsystem. As they say on the site, I hope they will
support XTF "sooner or later...".
In the meanwhile I try to explain what I need: I need to vectorize the
sonar echograms in an automatized way (I have about 300 files with
dozens of "pings" each one), to extract the thickness of soft
loam/clay deposits of some lake beds. So, my echograms show the
vertical lines of the single "pings". For every ping I would like to
extract the "first arrive" (the point where a signal above a threshold
appear for the first time on the vertical) and the point when the
signal decreases lower then another threshold (before signal decayes
because of power loss). The problem is that I'm not such a good
programmer! :-)
I know sogtware for seismic datas that can do it, but it's the first
time I work with sonars data, and this formats in particular.
The alternative is to pick the 3000 points by hand, and measure the
thickness for each segment!

I'll let you know if I make useful steps.

Giovanni

2008/8/1 Thierry Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Giovanni
>
> There is nothing free to read XTF format that I know of.  The format is
> freely available on triton's website. The format has become a standard de
> facto. However it is still difficult to get a really standard xtf file in
> between the manufacturer of sonar processing software.
> My advice would be
>
> 1) knowing the name of the application that acquired the sonar data.
> 2) have a quick look at MBsystem which is the only sonar processing software
> free as free beer!! It won't read xtf but you might find a way to find a
> common denominator.
>
> I ll be glad to know how you proceed as I might be of better help if you are
> more specific (acquisition software, sonar)
>
> Regards
>
> I G. Allegri a écrit :
>>
>> Hi list,
>> I'm facing the need to process some sonar files in XTF (eXtensible
>> Triton Format), but I can't find anything as OS to do it.
>> Does anyone have experience with such a format?
>>
>> XTF References:
>>
>> http://www.tritonimaginginc.com/site/content/public/downloads/FileFormatInfo/Xtf%20File%20Format_X24.pdf
>> http://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/operations/sfmapping/sonar_xtf.htm
>>
>> Free (as free beer) reader:
>> http://www.knudsenengineering.com/html/software/postsurvey.htm
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Giovanni
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Re: [GRASS-user] v.info vs. r.info: different region output format

2008-08-01 Thread Maciej Sieczka

Sebastian Holler pisze:


 > v.info -g precip_30ynormals
 north=36.49917
 south=33.99472
 east=-75.62194
 west=-84.02389
 top=1615.44
 bottom=2.438400

 > r.info -g elev_ned_03arcsec
 north=35:54:40.66N
 south=35:35:17.334885N
 east=78:27:08.335106W
 west=78:49:17.33W

Is there any reason for the different outputs or is this a bug?


Not a bug but a "bad feature". Although the curent behaviour is not
good, I'm affraid it cannot be changed during GRASS 6 devel line not to
brake software that might depend on it. Please fill a defect report in
Trac and the issue maybe will be fixed in GRASS 7.

Maciek

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[GRASS-user] d.rast.edit issues

2008-08-01 Thread Adam Dershowitz
I am trying to use d.rast.edit and I can't get it to work properly.   
If I open it, either from the menu, or from the command line, it seems  
to open fine, but the size of my overview window is much larger then  
the size of my screen, so I can't see much of the window.  If I resize  
the window then I don't get any scroll bars, so that doesn't help.  So  
I can't figure out how to get to the lower 3/4 of my image.  The edit  
window itself seems fine, but I can't get get it to select the correct  
part of the image, since I can't move to it in the overview window.   
What might or might not be relevant is that the only menu item that  
appears on either window is on the edit window I have a File menu with  
Save and Exit.


Am I missing something?  Is there any way to force the size of the  
window to stay on my screen?  Or to force it to just show a different  
section?  I could edit the different parts at different times if I  
could get to that "lower" area at all.
I did try changing the region and the default region to see if that  
would allow me to choose a different part of the image, with no luck  
at all.


I am using the kyngchaos mac 6.3 binary builds with the newest Mac  
X11: 2.3.0 and the tcltk interface.


Thanks,

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Re: [GRASS-user] XTF reader neede - triton format for sonar

2008-08-01 Thread Thierry Schmitt

Hi Giovanni

There is nothing free to read XTF format that I know of.  The format is 
freely available on triton's website. The format has become a standard 
de facto. However it is still difficult to get a really standard xtf 
file in between the manufacturer of sonar processing software.

My advice would be

1) knowing the name of the application that acquired the sonar data.
2) have a quick look at MBsystem which is the only sonar processing 
software free as free beer!! It won't read xtf but you might find a way 
to find a common denominator.


I ll be glad to know how you proceed as I might be of better help if you 
are more specific (acquisition software, sonar)


Regards

I G. Allegri a écrit :

Hi list,
I'm facing the need to process some sonar files in XTF (eXtensible
Triton Format), but I can't find anything as OS to do it.
Does anyone have experience with such a format?

XTF References:
http://www.tritonimaginginc.com/site/content/public/downloads/FileFormatInfo/Xtf%20File%20Format_X24.pdf
http://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/operations/sfmapping/sonar_xtf.htm

Free (as free beer) reader:
http://www.knudsenengineering.com/html/software/postsurvey.htm

Thanks,
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[GRASS-user] v.info vs. r.info: different region output format

2008-08-01 Thread Sebastian Holler

Hi list,
I've tried to create bounding boxes for all layers of a given location 
with an extern python script.
This script parses the output from "v.info -g " resp. "r.info -g 
".


But I noticed, that in a location with a geographic crs, the region 
outputs (esp. the unit formats) of vector and raster layers differs from 
each other.
v.info prints the region in decimal degrees (DD) whereas r.info produces 
an output in degrees,minutes,seconds (DMS).


For example (nc_ll location from www.grassbooks.org; EPSG:4001):

 > v.info -g precip_30ynormals
 north=36.49917
 south=33.99472
 east=-75.62194
 west=-84.02389
 top=1615.44
 bottom=2.438400

 > r.info -g elev_ned_03arcsec
 north=35:54:40.66N
 south=35:35:17.334885N
 east=78:27:08.335106W
 west=78:49:17.33W

Is there any reason for the different outputs or is this a bug?

For parsing both ouputs with external tools, it would be better if the 
formats were equal.


Regards,
Sebastian H.
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[GRASS-user] exporting only a table from a vector

2008-08-01 Thread Milton Cezar Ribeiro
Dear all,

I have a vector map with its attributes on GRASS
and I would like to export only the table (not the vector),
and select some fields during the export.

Is there a way of do it on GRASS?

Kind regards

miltinho astronauta
brazil
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[GRASS-user] can't click a button in wxGUI = 7 years old GTK bug?

2008-08-01 Thread Maciej Sieczka

Hi,

Some of you might have noticed a problem with wxPython GRASS GUI that
sometimes you could not click some button again without moving out of
it's "area of control" and back (e.g. you can't press Run button in a
module's GUI the second time not having moved the cursor somewhere
outside of it and back). It is highly likely that it's been the same bug
that was reported 7 (seven) years ago for GTK and just recently fixed.
Dig the whole story [1]. Is it really the same thing like I suppose?

[1]http://research.operationaldynamics.com/blogs/andrew/software/gnome-desktop/gtk-bug-56070.html

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Re: [GRASS-user] Workflow of a classification project with orthophotos

2008-08-01 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 15:29 +0200, G. Allegri wrote:
> A collegue sent me this ticks to run OSSIM on Ubuntu 7.10:
> 
> 
> http://trac.osgeo.org/ossim/wiki/Ubuntu-7.10Build
> 
> after every make make install, give a "ldconfig" and start another
> shell to continue the compilation.
> 
> in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/
> 
> I've exported the following libs :
> 
> /usr/lib
> /usr/local/lib
> /home/sasha/GIS/ossim/ossim/lib
> 
> within a file "ossim.conf"
> --
> 
> Yet I've never found the time to try it...
> 
> Giovanni

I've been trying in the past and today again... but no luck. It's not an
easy process. I wonder how this affects the status of OSSIM as an osgeo
tool?

Shouldn't all osgeo packages be installable in most major platforms?
Well, this is a question for another list.

Cheers, Nikos

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[GRASS-user] XTF reader neede - triton format for sonar

2008-08-01 Thread G. Allegri
Hi list,
I'm facing the need to process some sonar files in XTF (eXtensible
Triton Format), but I can't find anything as OS to do it.
Does anyone have experience with such a format?

XTF References:
http://www.tritonimaginginc.com/site/content/public/downloads/FileFormatInfo/Xtf%20File%20Format_X24.pdf
http://woodshole.er.usgs.gov/operations/sfmapping/sonar_xtf.htm

Free (as free beer) reader:
http://www.knudsenengineering.com/html/software/postsurvey.htm

Thanks,
Giovanni
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Re: [GRASS-user] Workflow of a classification project with orthophotos

2008-08-01 Thread G. Allegri
A collegue sent me this ticks to run OSSIM on Ubuntu 7.10:


http://trac.osgeo.org/ossim/wiki/Ubuntu-7.10Build

after every make make install, give a "ldconfig" and start another
shell to continue the compilation.

in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/

I've exported the following libs :

/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib
/home/sasha/GIS/ossim/ossim/lib

within a file "ossim.conf"
--

Yet I've never found the time to try it...

Giovanni




2008/8/1 Nikos Alexandris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:01 +0200, Maciej Sieczka wrote:
>> Nikos Alexandris pisze:
>> > how do Open Source Professionals image normalisation for aerial
>> > photos... let's say 300 photos? I cannot imagine that people sit-down
>> > and extract psuedoinvariant targets for 300 photos (except they are
>> > payed a lot for that).
>>
>> Nikos,
>>
>> Have you looked at OSSIM? Not that I'm sure it provides the tool, but
>> seems likely.
>>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion Maciej.
>
> OSSIM sounds very promising (from what I've read so far). Till today I
> never managed to get OSSIM running under Ubuntu. I've seen it only under
> some win-boxes and partially running under wine. But it's probably an
> adventure to compile it properly.
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Re: [GRASS-user] execute commands automatically after start of grass

2008-08-01 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Victoria
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not put a test inside .grass.bashrc to check if you are in the
> mapset you want R to run?
> Something like:
> 
> if [ $MAPSET = __your_targuet__ ]; do
>   r &
>  emacs &
> fi

Good idea - I think I will go that way.

Rainer

>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jachym Cepicky
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> you can adjust anything in .grass.bashrc file
>>>
>>> e.g.
>>>
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> export GRASS_ADDON_PATH=$HOME/usr/grass/
>>> export GRASS_PAGER=/bin/more
>>
>> Thanks - that looks exactly what I am looking for.
>> But is there a way of specifying a certain .grass.bashrc which should be 
>> used?
>>
>> The reasoning is that for certain projects I need R and emacs and
>> would like to start them automatically, for others not. Obviously, I
>> could use a startup script which renames the apropriate file to
>> .grass.bashrc, but it would be cleaner to be able to specify it when
>> starting grass.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jachym
>>>
>>> [1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/variables.html
>>>
>>> 2008/8/1 Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 Hi

 I am using grass in combination with R, wherefore I have to start R
 (or emacs) after starting grass.
 Is there any way, to make this automatic, i.e., can I specify a script
 which is executed inside grass after it is started?
 In addition, I only would like that to happen when I start grass in a
 certain mapset and not in other mapsets.


 Thanks

 Rainer

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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
>>> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
>>> GPG: http://www.les-ejk.cz/pgp/jachym_cepicky-gpg.pub
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>>
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>> Faculty of Science
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>> Private Bag X1
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Re: [GRASS-user] execute commands automatically after start of grass

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Victoria
Why not put a test inside .grass.bashrc to check if you are in the
mapset you want R to run?
Something like:

if [ $MAPSET = __your_targuet__ ]; do
   r &
  emacs &
fi

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jachym Cepicky
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> you can adjust anything in .grass.bashrc file
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>> export GRASS_ADDON_PATH=$HOME/usr/grass/
>> export GRASS_PAGER=/bin/more
>
> Thanks - that looks exactly what I am looking for.
> But is there a way of specifying a certain .grass.bashrc which should be used?
>
> The reasoning is that for certain projects I need R and emacs and
> would like to start them automatically, for others not. Obviously, I
> could use a startup script which renames the apropriate file to
> .grass.bashrc, but it would be cleaner to be able to specify it when
> starting grass.
>
>
>>
>>
>> jachym
>>
>> [1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/variables.html
>>
>> 2008/8/1 Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am using grass in combination with R, wherefore I have to start R
>>> (or emacs) after starting grass.
>>> Is there any way, to make this automatic, i.e., can I specify a script
>>> which is executed inside grass after it is started?
>>> In addition, I only would like that to happen when I start grass in a
>>> certain mapset and not in other mapsets.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rainer
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
>>> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>>>
>>> Plant Conservation Unit
>>> Department of Botany
>>> University of Cape Town
>>> Rondebosch 7701
>>> South Africa
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
>> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
>> GPG: http://www.les-ejk.cz/pgp/jachym_cepicky-gpg.pub
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>
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> Private Bag X1
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Re: [GRASS-user] Compiling addons from svn repository

2008-08-01 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 13:05 +0300, Nikos Alexandris wrote:
> Next you have to point "make" to the GRASS installation directory (not
> the source!), something like:
> make MODULE_TOPDIR=usr/local/grass-6.4.svn

Sorry. Details are important.
make MODULE_TOPDIR=/usr/local/grass-6.4.svn

> Finally you have to re-run "sudo make install" from within the
> GRASS-source directory.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Workflow of a classification project with orthophotos

2008-08-01 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:01 +0200, Maciej Sieczka wrote:
> Nikos Alexandris pisze:
> > how do Open Source Professionals image normalisation for aerial
> > photos... let's say 300 photos? I cannot imagine that people sit-down
> > and extract psuedoinvariant targets for 300 photos (except they are
> > payed a lot for that).
> 
> Nikos,
> 
> Have you looked at OSSIM? Not that I'm sure it provides the tool, but
> seems likely.
> 

Thanks for the suggestion Maciej.

OSSIM sounds very promising (from what I've read so far). Till today I
never managed to get OSSIM running under Ubuntu. I've seen it only under
some win-boxes and partially running under wine. But it's probably an
adventure to compile it properly.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Compiling addons from svn repository

2008-08-01 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:58 +0200, Eduardo corbelle wrote:
> Dear all:
> 
> I would like to install an add-on for GRASS 6.3.1 called i.pr that
> appears to be available on the svn repository. I never used the svn
> repository so I find it a bit challenging (I cannot fully understand
> the instructions on
> http://www.hpcc.nectec.or.th/grass/download/addons.php). Could anyone
> tell me which code should I write at the bash in order to download and
> compile the add-on? (any detailed link would do).
[...]

Assuming you have a working grass installation and you have downloaded the 
grass-addons, enter the grass-addon directory of you interest (for example if 
you want to install i.pr):
cd /your-path/grass-addons/imagery/i.pr/


Next you have to point "make" to the GRASS installation directory (not the 
source!), something like:
make MODULE_TOPDIR=usr/local/grass-6.4.svn

Finally you have to re-run "sudo make install" from within the GRASS-source 
directory.

That should do it.
Greets, Nikos

P.S. I can't get i.pr working. I've read the help files and the tried the 
example commands but I always get a Black image when I run i.pr_training. If 
you have any success could you please post an example?


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Re: [GRASS-user] Workflow of a classification project with orthophotos

2008-08-01 Thread Maciej Sieczka

Nikos Alexandris pisze:

how do Open Source Professionals image normalisation for aerial
photos... let's say 300 photos? I cannot imagine that people sit-down
and extract psuedoinvariant targets for 300 photos (except they are
payed a lot for that).


Nikos,

Have you looked at OSSIM? Not that I'm sure it provides the tool, but
seems likely.

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[GRASS-user] Compiling addons from svn repository

2008-08-01 Thread Eduardo corbelle
Dear all:

I would like to install an add-on for GRASS 6.3.1 called i.pr that appears
to be available on the svn repository. I never used the svn repository so I
find it a bit challenging (I cannot fully understand the instructions on
http://www.hpcc.nectec.or.th/grass/download/addons.php). Could anyone tell
me which code should I write at the bash in order to download and compile
the add-on? (any detailed link would do).

Thank you very much


Eduardo Corbelle

PS: I'm not sure whether it is relevant, but I'm running grass on Debian
Lenny and I have the Subversion client installed.
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Re: [GRASS-user] r.watershed speed-up

2008-08-01 Thread G. Allegri
With the "fast" drainage versions I could reproduce water outlet
basins with unsignificant differences. Apart the time saving :-)

2008/8/1 G. Allegri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Great. Things get better and faster!
> I've tried on a not so big region. But it was enough:
>
> 989861 cells (172286 null cells under MASK, where I have the see)
>
> It has taken about 55 seconds (I don't have time to set up a
> profiling), where I asked for drain and visual outputs creation.
>
> The stats are (calculated in OO):
>
> DIFF-VALUES  N.PIXELS PERCENTAGE
> -7  56  0,0068
> -6  30  0,0037
> -5  32  0,0039
> -4  49  0,0060
> -3  38  0,0046
> -2  180 0,0220
> -1  914 0,1118
> 0   814650  99,6422
> 1   910 0,1113
> 2   229 0,0280
> 3   79  0,0097
> 4   42  0,0051
> 5   21  0,0026
> 6   70  0,0086
> 7   152 0,0186
> 8   22  0,0027
> 9   21  0,0026
> 10  5   0,0006
> 11  15  0,0018
> 12  30  0,0037
> 13  18  0,0022
> 14  3   0,0004
> 15  5   0,0006
> 16  4   0,0005
>
> Things has run better then with the previous version, as >99.6% of
> values are equal to r.watershed.
>
> Thanks, a lot, for r.watershed.fast! :-)
> Giovanni
>
> 2008/8/1 Markus Metz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> there is now a new version of r.watershed.fast where results are even more
>> similar to r.watershed. They are still not 100% identical to r.watershed,
>> but I can't get it more similar. But it comes with a further speed increase.
>> I repeated the test of Moritz with the same commands on GRASS 6.4.svn,
>> results are below.
>>
>> Moritz Lennert wrote:
>>>
>>> First test in North Carolina demo data set:
>>>
>>> g.region rast=elevation
>>>
>>> time r.watershed [EMAIL PROTECTED] accumulation=old_accum
>>> drainage=old_dir basin=old_sheds stream=old_streams thresh=500
>>>
>>> real19m2.744s
>>> user18m41.318s
>>> sys 0m1.884s
>>>
>>> time r.watershed.fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> accumulation=fast_accum drainage=fast_dir basin=fast_sheds
>>> stream=fast_streams thresh=500
>>>
>>> real0m18.034s
>>> user0m17.833s
>>> sys 0m0.196s
>>
>> Absolute times are not really comparable between systems, but relative
>> differences in time should be similar. The following numbers are calculated
>> with real time. In the test Moritz did, r.watershed took 63x as long as
>> r.watershed.fast, i.e. r.watershed.fast needed only 1.6% of the time of
>> r.watershed.
>> New version: r.watershed took 127x as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e.
>> r.watershed.fast needed only 0.8% of the time of r.watershed.
>>>
>>> Of the 2025000 cells in the map, 1991218 show the same direction, i.e.
>>> 98%. Those which have different directions are overwhelmingly low slope
>>> cells.
>>
>> New version: 2004480 cells, i.e. 99% of all cells show the same flow
>> direction.
>>>
>>> 1833907 cells have the same accumulation value, i.e. 90%, but I guess this
>>> is to be expected.
>>
>> New version: 1921510 cells, i.e. 95% of all cells show the same accumulation
>> value.
>>
>> The idea is that a faster r.watershed can also be used for massive grids,
>> where GRASS users frequently gave up using r.watershed because it would have
>> taken hours or even days. I resampled "elevation" in the North Carolina demo
>> data set from 10m to 3m with r.resamp.rst using default values (after the
>> GRASS book Section 5.3.3, paragraph "Regularized spline with tension (RST)
>> interpolation") to generate a fairly large map and ran the same test on the
>> resampled map.
>>
>> cells in region : 22,500,000
>>
>> The results:
>>
>> Speed:
>> r.watershed took 5459x as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e. r.watershed.fast
>> needed only 0.02% of the time of r.watershed (here 10h2m55s vs. 1m7s, 10
>> hours versus 1 minute...).
>>
>> Flow direction differences:
>> 22288539 cells, i.e. 99% of all cells show the same flow direction.
>>
>> Flow accumulation differences:
>> 20963653 cells, i.e. 93% of all cells show the same accumulation value.
>>
>> Memory usage of r.watershed and r.watershed.fast: maximum of about 940MB
>> I don't understand why memory usage increases after > Memory> is completed.
>> Assuming that there is no longer a time constraint but only a memory
>> constraint (although  can take some time
>> on large maps with a large threshold value), the upper region sizes that
>> r.watershed.fast can process in RAM would be *roughly* for
>> 1GB RAM:  14,000,000 cells
>> 2GB RAM:  38,000,000 cells
>> 4GB RAM:  86,000,000 cells
>> 8GB RAM: 181,000,000 cells
>> after putting 400MB aside for the system and other open applications.
>> Estimate based on Linux 64bit.
>>
>> If you want to repeat and analyse the tests with the North Carolina demo
>> data set, the new r.watershed.fast is here
>> http://markus.metz.giswork.googlepages.com/r.watershed_fast_version.tar.gz
>> and the test script is below.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>

Re: [GRASS-user] execute commands automatically after start of grass

2008-08-01 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Jachym Cepicky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
>
> you can adjust anything in .grass.bashrc file
>
> e.g.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> export GRASS_ADDON_PATH=$HOME/usr/grass/
> export GRASS_PAGER=/bin/more

Thanks - that looks exactly what I am looking for.
But is there a way of specifying a certain .grass.bashrc which should be used?

The reasoning is that for certain projects I need R and emacs and
would like to start them automatically, for others not. Obviously, I
could use a startup script which renames the apropriate file to
.grass.bashrc, but it would be cleaner to be able to specify it when
starting grass.


>
>
> jachym
>
> [1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/variables.html
>
> 2008/8/1 Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am using grass in combination with R, wherefore I have to start R
>> (or emacs) after starting grass.
>> Is there any way, to make this automatic, i.e., can I specify a script
>> which is executed inside grass after it is started?
>> In addition, I only would like that to happen when I start grass in a
>> certain mapset and not in other mapsets.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>> --
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>> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>>
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>> Department of Botany
>> University of Cape Town
>> Rondebosch 7701
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Re: [GRASS-user] r.watershed speed-up

2008-08-01 Thread G. Allegri
Great. Things get better and faster!
I've tried on a not so big region. But it was enough:

989861 cells (172286 null cells under MASK, where I have the see)

It has taken about 55 seconds (I don't have time to set up a
profiling), where I asked for drain and visual outputs creation.

The stats are (calculated in OO):

DIFF-VALUES  N.PIXELS PERCENTAGE
-7  56  0,0068
-6  30  0,0037
-5  32  0,0039
-4  49  0,0060
-3  38  0,0046
-2  180 0,0220
-1  914 0,1118
0   814650  99,6422
1   910 0,1113
2   229 0,0280
3   79  0,0097
4   42  0,0051
5   21  0,0026
6   70  0,0086
7   152 0,0186
8   22  0,0027
9   21  0,0026
10  5   0,0006
11  15  0,0018
12  30  0,0037
13  18  0,0022
14  3   0,0004
15  5   0,0006
16  4   0,0005

Things has run better then with the previous version, as >99.6% of
values are equal to r.watershed.

Thanks, a lot, for r.watershed.fast! :-)
Giovanni

2008/8/1 Markus Metz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello list,
>
> there is now a new version of r.watershed.fast where results are even more
> similar to r.watershed. They are still not 100% identical to r.watershed,
> but I can't get it more similar. But it comes with a further speed increase.
> I repeated the test of Moritz with the same commands on GRASS 6.4.svn,
> results are below.
>
> Moritz Lennert wrote:
>>
>> First test in North Carolina demo data set:
>>
>> g.region rast=elevation
>>
>> time r.watershed [EMAIL PROTECTED] accumulation=old_accum
>> drainage=old_dir basin=old_sheds stream=old_streams thresh=500
>>
>> real19m2.744s
>> user18m41.318s
>> sys 0m1.884s
>>
>> time r.watershed.fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> accumulation=fast_accum drainage=fast_dir basin=fast_sheds
>> stream=fast_streams thresh=500
>>
>> real0m18.034s
>> user0m17.833s
>> sys 0m0.196s
>
> Absolute times are not really comparable between systems, but relative
> differences in time should be similar. The following numbers are calculated
> with real time. In the test Moritz did, r.watershed took 63x as long as
> r.watershed.fast, i.e. r.watershed.fast needed only 1.6% of the time of
> r.watershed.
> New version: r.watershed took 127x as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e.
> r.watershed.fast needed only 0.8% of the time of r.watershed.
>>
>> Of the 2025000 cells in the map, 1991218 show the same direction, i.e.
>> 98%. Those which have different directions are overwhelmingly low slope
>> cells.
>
> New version: 2004480 cells, i.e. 99% of all cells show the same flow
> direction.
>>
>> 1833907 cells have the same accumulation value, i.e. 90%, but I guess this
>> is to be expected.
>
> New version: 1921510 cells, i.e. 95% of all cells show the same accumulation
> value.
>
> The idea is that a faster r.watershed can also be used for massive grids,
> where GRASS users frequently gave up using r.watershed because it would have
> taken hours or even days. I resampled "elevation" in the North Carolina demo
> data set from 10m to 3m with r.resamp.rst using default values (after the
> GRASS book Section 5.3.3, paragraph "Regularized spline with tension (RST)
> interpolation") to generate a fairly large map and ran the same test on the
> resampled map.
>
> cells in region : 22,500,000
>
> The results:
>
> Speed:
> r.watershed took 5459x as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e. r.watershed.fast
> needed only 0.02% of the time of r.watershed (here 10h2m55s vs. 1m7s, 10
> hours versus 1 minute...).
>
> Flow direction differences:
> 22288539 cells, i.e. 99% of all cells show the same flow direction.
>
> Flow accumulation differences:
> 20963653 cells, i.e. 93% of all cells show the same accumulation value.
>
> Memory usage of r.watershed and r.watershed.fast: maximum of about 940MB
> I don't understand why memory usage increases after  Memory> is completed.
> Assuming that there is no longer a time constraint but only a memory
> constraint (although  can take some time
> on large maps with a large threshold value), the upper region sizes that
> r.watershed.fast can process in RAM would be *roughly* for
> 1GB RAM:  14,000,000 cells
> 2GB RAM:  38,000,000 cells
> 4GB RAM:  86,000,000 cells
> 8GB RAM: 181,000,000 cells
> after putting 400MB aside for the system and other open applications.
> Estimate based on Linux 64bit.
>
> If you want to repeat and analyse the tests with the North Carolina demo
> data set, the new r.watershed.fast is here
> http://markus.metz.giswork.googlepages.com/r.watershed_fast_version.tar.gz
> and the test script is below.
>
> Regards,
>
> Markus
>
>
> test script:
> g.region rast=elevation
> time r.watershed [EMAIL PROTECTED] accumulation=nc_accum_old
> drainage=nc_dir_old basin=nc_sheds_old stream=nc_streams_old thresh=500
> time r.watershed.fast [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> accumulation=nc_accum_fast drainage=nc_dir_fast basin=nc_sheds_fast
> stream=nc_streams_fast thresh=500
> r.mapc

Re: [GRASS-user] execute commands automatically after start of grass

2008-08-01 Thread Jachym Cepicky
hi,

you can adjust anything in .grass.bashrc file

e.g.

#!/bin/sh
export GRASS_ADDON_PATH=$HOME/usr/grass/
export GRASS_PAGER=/bin/more


jachym

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/variables.html

2008/8/1 Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi
>
> I am using grass in combination with R, wherefore I have to start R
> (or emacs) after starting grass.
> Is there any way, to make this automatic, i.e., can I specify a script
> which is executed inside grass after it is started?
> In addition, I only would like that to happen when I start grass in a
> certain mapset and not in other mapsets.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Rainer
>
> --
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> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>
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> Department of Botany
> University of Cape Town
> Rondebosch 7701
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[GRASS-user] execute commands automatically after start of grass

2008-08-01 Thread Rainer M Krug
Hi

I am using grass in combination with R, wherefore I have to start R
(or emacs) after starting grass.
Is there any way, to make this automatic, i.e., can I specify a script
which is executed inside grass after it is started?
In addition, I only would like that to happen when I start grass in a
certain mapset and not in other mapsets.


Thanks

Rainer

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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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Re: [GRASS-user] r.watershed speed-up

2008-08-01 Thread Markus Metz

Hello list,

there is now a new version of r.watershed.fast where results are even 
more similar to r.watershed. They are still not 100% identical to 
r.watershed, but I can't get it more similar. But it comes with a 
further speed increase. I repeated the test of Moritz with the same 
commands on GRASS 6.4.svn, results are below.


Moritz Lennert wrote:


First test in North Carolina demo data set:

g.region rast=elevation

time r.watershed [EMAIL PROTECTED] accumulation=old_accum 
drainage=old_dir basin=old_sheds stream=old_streams thresh=500


real19m2.744s
user18m41.318s
sys 0m1.884s

time r.watershed.fast [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
accumulation=fast_accum drainage=fast_dir basin=fast_sheds 
stream=fast_streams thresh=500


real0m18.034s
user0m17.833s
sys 0m0.196s
Absolute times are not really comparable between systems, but relative 
differences in time should be similar. The following numbers are 
calculated with real time. In the test Moritz did, r.watershed took 63x 
as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e. r.watershed.fast needed only 1.6% of 
the time of r.watershed.
New version: r.watershed took 127x as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e. 
r.watershed.fast needed only 0.8% of the time of r.watershed.
Of the 2025000 cells in the map, 1991218 show the same direction, i.e. 
98%. Those which have different directions are overwhelmingly low 
slope cells.
New version: 2004480 cells, i.e. 99% of all cells show the same flow 
direction.
1833907 cells have the same accumulation value, i.e. 90%, but I guess 
this is to be expected.
New version: 1921510 cells, i.e. 95% of all cells show the same 
accumulation value.


The idea is that a faster r.watershed can also be used for massive 
grids, where GRASS users frequently gave up using r.watershed because it 
would have taken hours or even days. I resampled "elevation" in the 
North Carolina demo data set from 10m to 3m with r.resamp.rst using 
default values (after the GRASS book Section 5.3.3, paragraph 
"Regularized spline with tension (RST) interpolation") to generate a 
fairly large map and ran the same test on the resampled map.


cells in region : 22,500,000

The results:

Speed:
r.watershed took 5459x as long as r.watershed.fast, i.e. 
r.watershed.fast needed only 0.02% of the time of r.watershed (here 
10h2m55s vs. 1m7s, 10 hours versus 1 minute...).


Flow direction differences:
22288539 cells, i.e. 99% of all cells show the same flow direction.

Flow accumulation differences:
20963653 cells, i.e. 93% of all cells show the same accumulation value.

Memory usage of r.watershed and r.watershed.fast: maximum of about 940MB
I don't understand why memory usage increases after Initiating Memory> is completed.
Assuming that there is no longer a time constraint but only a memory 
constraint (although  can take some 
time on large maps with a large threshold value), the upper region sizes 
that r.watershed.fast can process in RAM would be *roughly* for

1GB RAM:  14,000,000 cells
2GB RAM:  38,000,000 cells
4GB RAM:  86,000,000 cells
8GB RAM: 181,000,000 cells
after putting 400MB aside for the system and other open applications. 
Estimate based on Linux 64bit.


If you want to repeat and analyse the tests with the North Carolina demo 
data set, the new r.watershed.fast is here 
http://markus.metz.giswork.googlepages.com/r.watershed_fast_version.tar.gz 
and the test script is below.


Regards,

Markus


test script:
g.region rast=elevation
time r.watershed [EMAIL PROTECTED] accumulation=nc_accum_old 
drainage=nc_dir_old basin=nc_sheds_old stream=nc_streams_old thresh=500
time r.watershed.fast [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
accumulation=nc_accum_fast drainage=nc_dir_fast basin=nc_sheds_fast 
stream=nc_streams_fast thresh=500

r.mapcalc nc_dir_dif='if(("nc_dir_old" - "nc_dir_fast" != 0),1,0)'
r.mapcalc nc_accum_dif='if(("nc_accum_old" - "nc_accum_fast" != 0),1,0)'
r.stats -c [EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.stats -c [EMAIL PROTECTED]

r.resamp.rst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ew_res=3 ns_res=3 
elev=elevation_rst overlap=3 zmult=1.0 tension=40.

g.region rast=elevation_rst
time r.watershed [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
accumulation=nc_rst_accum_old drainage=nc_rst_dir_old 
basin=nc_rst_sheds_old stream=nc_rst_streams_old thresh=500
time r.watershed.fast [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
accumulation=nc_rst_accum_fast drainage=nc_rst_dir_fast 
basin=nc_rst_sheds_fast stream=nc_rst_streams_fast thresh=500
r.mapcalc nc_rst_dir_dif='if(("nc_rst_dir_old" - "nc_rst_dir_fast" != 
0),1,0)'
r.mapcalc nc_rst_accum_dif='if(("nc_rst_accum_old" - "nc_rst_accum_fast" 
!= 0),1,0)'

r.stats -c [EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.stats -c [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [GRASS-user] Workflow of a classification project with orthophotos

2008-08-01 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 31/07/08 20:39, Nikos Alexandris wrote:

Any Open Source alternatives for image segmentation?


SAGA GIS has some segmentation algorithms included:
http://www.saga-gis.uni-goettingen.de/html/index.php

Moritz
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[GRASS-user] Re: [GRASS-dev] importing raster using r.in. *

2008-08-01 Thread Moritz Lennert

[Please post usage questions to grass-user.]

On 01/08/08 07:43, aschley nod wrote:
i'm a beginner in GRASS. I have read in the tutorial that r.in.* is the 
command to import a raster.So, i tried the following command:


r.in.tiff input=phil.tiff output = samplephil
 and this thing appeared...
bash: r.in.tiff: command not found
 what am i supposed to do?
i'm using grass6.3

hope someone can help me.


Use r.in.gdal.

As a beginner, it would be useful for you to look at the 'Introduction' 
pages linked to from

http://grass.osgeo.org/grass63/manuals/html63_user/index.html

Moritz

Moritz
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