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BTW, I know exactly where you live. Cumming.
Re: second list fluff
Sven, To each his own. I have not seen you on the list at all in quite awhile. I do agree we are limited to the breadth of topics GTS related, but when two guys are arguing the value a trip only one intends to take... such as happened recently.. to me, it is useless, and inappropriate. I support the list and resources it represents, and, if you were heading to a locale, certainly, I personally see nothing wrong with posting a "Hey, I am heading to Timbuktu, anyone know any good roads?" type post. Again, we all have our opinions. It seems the general content of the list has deteriorated so badly, I question its value to me at all. It is good to see you are still around. Take care, RSRBOB
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Well BOB, I for one enjoy the fluff; it's the only reason I stay subscribed to this mailing list. If the only reason that I was interested in this list was for resolving problems with my bike, I would subscribe only during those times that I needed help. There are only so many maintenance related topics that we can cover here, and I tend to believe that they have all be discussed. On the other hand, we can always have another riding event or discuss enjoyable areas to ride. I believe that this whole thread was started because a couple of riders were discussing riding around Loveland pass... while I live in North Georgia, I still find this of interest because I am planning a trip there this summer. Never undersell the content, if it doesn't interest you, delete the message. Now fluff about fluff has been filling this list, on and off, for the past 6 month. Lets drop it. -Sven >Gentlemen, >I was not attempting to compare our list with other lists. I am terribly >confident that the fluff on any given list is proportionate to the number of >units sold/subscribers to the list. That having been said, does it change the >fact that the original intent of the list was GTS content, not unrelated >personal information? We may be better at self regulation, but does that mean >there is not room for improvement? If fluff is what keeps this list alive, >then, it should be identified as such. > > This message was sent using Access1 Mail! http://www.access1.net
Re: second list fluff
This is the only list that I subscribe to. As such, it is easy for me to skip/delete the messages that have no relevance to me. However, if a person were to subscribe to multiple lists, it could easily become quite a chore or nuisance. So as to avoid further discussion of having 2 lists or losing subscribers, I would humbly submit that we go back to our prior agreement of listing fluff posts as 'fluff' in the header or subject line. It only takes a moment to do and would show the great consideration and warmth that we have all shared on this list. :^) Ok. A little hokey. But...can't we all just smtp together? Brandon :^)
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Well, perhaps not fluff, but personalities are a large part of at least my enjoyment of this list. There is so much cut and dried technical information to be shared. The pleasure of motorcycle riding can bleed over into other aspects and I don't mind. Just so long as it's identified. The complication of a second list, however, would be much more of a nuisance me thinks. In a message dated 03/21/2000 5:35:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If fluff is what keeps this list alive, >then, it should be identified as such.
Re: second list fluff
Gentlemen, I was not attempting to compare our list with other lists. I am terribly confident that the fluff on any given list is proportionate to the number of units sold/subscribers to the list. That having been said, does it change the fact that the original intent of the list was GTS content, not unrelated personal information? We may be better at self regulation, but does that mean there is not room for improvement? If fluff is what keeps this list alive, then, it should be identified as such.
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I would agree that we are much more disciplined than the two other mailing lists I was on, but we do get fluffy sometimes. We do have another forum on the club page, I've even "bumped" into busy Shawn a couple of times there. It's really not all that much trouble to join, and I'm trolling for comments on my new paint job. snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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One more vote to not create another list. Yes, we get some amount of fluff, but yes, it is usually identified. As for traffic levels on the list, this one is pretty light. So much so that I often leave town for a few days without unsubscribing, knowing that my inbox will handle it. Try that on any other moto-list, without being in digest. I subscribed to the Ducati list right after I bought the 900 CR, and was planning to do it in digest. When I subscribed I was busy and had to run to a meeting, so left it in non-digest until I got back. One hour later I had 135 new messages, virtually all from the Duc list. I unsubbed instantly and have never gone back--I don't have time to sort through a digest as big as that, and certainly don't want it in real time. This list has gradually gotten better at using fluff indicators, or, at a minimum, a clear RE line. As long as that's the case, no problem. I'll admit I don't open everything on this list. Phil
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I would have to agree with Jay I am on 2 other email lists for my other bikes. The TDM list isn't bad about the same. But for some reason the R1 list is just full of fluff and ego bashing arguments. I would have to say we've got a good thing going here ! Darren