Re: [h-cost] What R U doing this weekend
Goodness! A house fire sounds dreadful! Good to hear that you survived, though! I was extremely lucky to have been away from home, I normally would have been in bed when it happened. And congrats on the impending elevation (welcome to the Grove and all that g). The gown should be lovely--the inspiration portrait is a new one to me, but then, I'm only slightly familiar with 16th century German styles. Thank you:) It's a rather unique regional style, I'm a bit known now fr a *slight* obsesion with the Cleves style and the whole North Rhine- Westphalian style. The one in the portrait is one I have loved for a few years now and was thrilled to see a large size copy of it online. --Sue, who sometimes looks remarkably like someone named Maire, who is an SCA member with all sorts of Official Alphabet Soup (for late-period embroidery, primarily *grin* Willemyne has only a few letters after her name one of which already looks like OL;) Luckily that has changed to OGL! (Order of the Golden Lily rather than Order of the Lily.) I really need to decide on the translation of Mistress though. I need to decide on the Dutch or German translations. Michaela http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hand rolling hems
Hello, Jennifer. Post is in so, so are you. Tell me, you the journo? -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: Re: 1432 doublet - fastening?
There's the one I've got, from the effigy in Salisbury (dated 1380...at least, that's when the gentleman in question died). Of course, that's on a gentleman's cote, and not a lady's. Still, quite definitely side-laced. If you want a copy of the photo for your collection, let me know, and I'd be glad to send it on --Sue - Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] RE: Re: 1432 doublet - fastening? I have seen occasional side lacings -- very rare, and the one that comes to my mind immediately is northern Italian. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: What R U doing this weekend
The Queen's birthday is _actually_ in April. Confused yet? actual birthday 21st april official birthday a saturday in june (it changes) - in the uk anyway... appraently it's all edward vii's fault... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] RE: Re: 1432 cotehardie - fastening?
Well, I've spoken to the man I'm sewing this cotehardie for, and he really doesn't want a front lacing. The back lacing is, I see, not very good choice to take either, if it's not sure whether it's period or not. Do you think I could do with some hidden fastening on the side? If side lacing existed, this wouldn't be unperiod. By the way, was the side lacing on both sides? But I'd rather make some much more invisible fastening at the side - how could be lacing hidden in a seam? I can't imagine that. What about hooks and eyes? I know there existed in renaissance, but no idea when it comes to middle ages. Thanks, Zuzana - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ruff question
On May 27, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: I want to make an Elizabethan ruff. I have some fine linen, but the selvedge is funky. Should I double the fabric, having a fold at the outside edge of the ruff or should I just hem the outside edge with a narrow hem? It depends on whether you want to starch and set it to get the shape or do a theatrical style that's wash-and-wear. If you mean to starch it every time you wash it, I'd suggest a tiny rolled hem at the edge and only one layer of fabric. For that style, you'll need to gather the entire length of the ruffle into the top of the neckband, so the less bulk the better. If you mean to put horsehair braid or some other modern cheat in so you won't have to starch it, and you intend to cartridge pleat it onto the side of the neckband, it's fine to fold it double. Instructions on starching ruffs can be found on my site at http://www.faucet.net/costume/period/ruff.html Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1432 doublet - fastening?
Blast it. That last note on armor was meant to go directly to a listmember, not to the list, and was part of a larger conversation. Nothing to see here. Carry on. Apologies, Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1432 doublet - fastening?
Oh my. A quick search just turned up a page about this from a weblog by Will McLean. I know him -- he's an armorer on the East Coast (formerly SCA, now with Belle Compagnie) and does top-flight work, so I trust his eye. http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_archive.html The name of the entry is Belts Worn with Armor by a Late 14th-early 15th c. Man-at-Arms, and he names many examples. Here's the paragraph: A horizontal belt worn low on the hips may not be a good way to hold up a heavy sword, so it's not uncommon to see a diagonal, often fairly narrow belt instead of or in addition to the low one. Sir Humphrey Littlebury wears both. (I suspect from his gauntlets that he may be somewhat earlier than 1365.) Lord John de Montacute also has a second belt, in this case neatly rolled around his scabbard. The picture link (it went to Gothic Eye) is dead, but the description would make sense of that bit of decoration I saw off the waist, which went down at an angle and might be a diagonal narrow belt holding the scabbard on the right. If he means the same image, then Will thinks it's armor. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
Hi, Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
Ah yes! I've seen this portrait before. My first question, as always, is what did they do at the time? Embroidery I will admit is not my strongest suit and perhaps I am conjuring up the wrong mental picture of what you mean by wool felt. But my gut reaction is no, not wool. In part it is from my reading of inventories of the day... silk garments tend to be decorated with silk. Looking at the garment in Moda A Firenze I can't tell a darn thing. Oh well, had to try. Sorry, I hope your research turns up and answer, and that you will share it with us. Mari Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
Most likely, I am thinking appliques of red velvet, outlined with cord. Wool felt might work, but won't look as rich as the velvet would. Good luck, and I would love to see pictures when you are done. Kimiko --- Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
A quick look at JA's PoF, where an appliqué on silk was done it was silk, except for the one doublet with leather applique stitched with silk thread. I also think that while the wool would work, it would look better with velvet or silk alex On 5/29/07, Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. -- I can handle anything that life throws at me. I may not be able to handle it well, or correctly, or gracefully, or with finesse, or expediently -- but I will handle it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] 16th century dress question embroidery
There is a larger picture online somewhere that shows the red to be embroidery, probably silk thread. But if you are asking about cutting back on the embroidery by appliquing wool felt where there is red, I would recommend a velvet or silk. Not sure they would have appliqued wool on to silk back then. De -Original Message- Hi, Several years ago I found a picture on the internet that I really liked. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Blauw.jpg And several years ago I bought a very nice blue silk. I was wondering if red wool felt and gold cord would work for the embroidery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
