Re: [h-cost] Overlocker thread
You can use the serger a bit and be historically accurate for early 20th century dresses. I have a lingerie dress, lightweight cotton with lace insertion, from approx 1905, with some overlocked/serged seams. I had a very early Viking home serger, bought about 25 years ago, that was always such a pain to thread and the tension would get screwed up easily. I haven't had a working serger for about 10 years now and I miss it. Does anyone have a recent Viking serger, any recommendations? Katy On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Sylvia Rognstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it is necessary for woven fabrics, not so for knits, since they > don't fray. Of course, if you're doing historically accurate costumes, > you probably don't want to serge them, but since I'm not into that, I > always serge, and can't stand costumes or clothing that aren't serged > anymore > > Sylvia > > On May 11, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: > >> I've never liked serging but: Is it useful for fabrics besides knits? >> I >> know it can be used on woven fabrics, but there are a variety of seams >> that can be used on those but less of a variety for knits. Thing is, I >> never sew knits. And I never wanted a serger before but now that I'm >> adding to the machine collection. . . >> >> I'm really regretting selling that early electric Singer with the >> bentwood case that I had years ago, it worked perfectly and had a great >> straight stitch. It's just that I was a college student, I also had >> another machine, and I didn't want a lot of stuff to haul around. Is it >> easy to get them into good condition? Mine was like new. >> >> Fran >> Lavolta Press >> http://www.lavoltapress.com >> >> Kim Baird wrote: >>> >>> You need a strong thread for serging, because there is a bit of >>> jerking >>> going on, and high speed. I use polyester thread for serging, whether >>> it's >>> dedicated serger cones or just spools of Guterman or Metrosene. I >>> also like >>> to use wooly nylon in the loopers, because it covers the edge so well. >>> However, you have to be careful when pressing the garment. Too much >>> heat, >>> and wooly nylon becomes stiff and scratchy. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
Hi, I'm sorry if this has been discussed before - I've glanced through the archives and didn't find much - please point me to an earlier discussion if so. But my question is, is there any evidence and info on how did the medieval women deal with menstruation? Did they use special clothes (could they use something like pants???)? I've also heard that menstruation in the earlier times was much different from today and the menstruation could not have been such a big deal after all (not to talk about the fact that women were very often pregnant) I'm also interested in later periods - up to the 18th century - I think the way of dealing with it would have been similar to how it was done in the middle ages...but I really don't know much about this topic, that's why I rather post here and ask:-) Thanks, Zuzana - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
Off the top of my head, I've read about the use of rags, sea sponges, and corks. I've also read references of women letting it run down their legs, but that would be both disgusting and dangerous. My personal theory is that women with poor nutrition or those of especially athletic bodies would have little to no menstrual cycle. I base this on studies done on modern day women with extremely low body fat and their reduced or non-existent cycles. I don't have much time now, but will find my references and point you to them as soon as I can. Connie Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sorry if this has been discussed before - I've glanced through the > archives and didn't find much - please point me to an earlier discussion if > so. > > But my question is, is there any evidence and info on how did the medieval > women deal with menstruation? Did they use special clothes (could they use > something like pants???)? > > I've also heard that menstruation in the earlier times was much different > from today and the menstruation could not have been such a big deal after all > (not to talk about the fact that women were very often pregnant) > > I'm also interested in later periods - up to the 18th century - I think the > way of dealing with it would have been similar to how it was done in the > middle ages...but I really don't know much about this topic, that's why I > rather post here and ask:-) > > Thanks, > > Zuzana > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Number of machines.Was Sewing and Embroidery Machines
I only have a simple Janome sewing machine and a basic Janome over locker (Serger), they do me well. I imagine as my skills increase I will look to better machines, but it would be logical to keep the existing ones as back ups. Sidney On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Dianne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I, for one, collect them. I specialize in old treadles and > handcranks. I make mine fully functional. I have found the old > Singers, prior to the 600 series, can sew through almost anything > without a problem. >> > > Amen! My little Singer 99K is a gorgeous machine. The two Brother machines > (one sewing, one embroidery only) are functional, and look it. They create > beautiful things, but they aren't beautiful things in and of themselves. > > Of course, I still want a treadle machine, and a handcrank, and a > Featherweight, and ooh of course that shiny Duetta with the HUGE embroidery > field. :-) > > Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Number of machines.Was Sewing and Embroidery
18?? No wonder you need that big house :). I learned to sew on my grt-grandmother's treadle machine and my mothers dependable singer and have four of my own right now. Currently my main machine is a Bernina (basic model, not to many bells and whistles but I love it). The backup is my 30 yr old White. I also have a veteran Kenmore that a friend used for sewing canvas and left me when she moved. I use it for the heavy duty sewing I don't want to push the Bernina on (which isn't much). There is also an old singer in a cabinet that used to be the back-up machine but is now looking for a good home. I have never felt the need for a serger, not sure why, just never appealed to me. Ditto with an embroidery machine altho I can see where they could be very handy for some things if I was still sewing more commercially. Another question might be how many motors have we gone through on our machines :)? The White, which was my main machine during my heaviest sewing time, is on it's second and could probably do with a third. Catherine *** I have 18 sewing machines in my house; two on loan making a whopping 20. Four are treadles, two feather weights, and the earliest dates (that I can tell) from 1919 I may have earlier models but I cannot trace them. This also includes my one lone serger and my industrial machine. My main machine is my Singer Stylist c.1969 My favourite is my hand crank portable c.1920 that save my bacon back the year we had Hurricane Juan and we were without power for over a week and I had sewing to do; sad irons, a hand crank and oil lamp...somehow fitting in my c1870s house Sarah Paterson Great Village, NS Canada ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
I know we've discussed it some, but that was 7 or more years ago! For those who are curious about more recent menstruation habits, there's the online Museum of Menstruation: http://www.mum.org/ -- cv ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Overlocker thread
> My new > computerised Viking sews fine with brands like Metrosene and Mettler, > but shreds silk thread. When I had that problem with my Viking I found out it was the needle, not the machine, that was shredding the thread. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
There was a great discussion on this topic in January of 2006. While medieval medical literature doesn't necessarily reflect true life one gets the impression that medieval people were fanatically interested in periods. Not having one meant that your humors were out of balance and there are lots of herbal remedies to bring on the menses. (Now, some of these amount to early chemical abortions but that's another topic entirely.) It's possibly a medieval woman did not greet her period with the desire to hide it that modern marketing has instilled in many of us. It was part of life and meant that you were healthy. However, I suspect flauting it wasn't good either and I have a completly unsubstantiated theory the part of the humilation of being publicly stripped to one's shift showed off some old blood stains. Another aspect I intend to investigate someday is how much flow a woman who is not surrounded by so many artificial hormores has. There are so many phyoestrogeons in the environment that I'm not sure we can take modern experience as typical. Cheers, Mary Haselbauer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
The museum appears to have been closed. On May 12, 2008, at 7:22 AM, Cynthia Virtue wrote: > I know we've discussed it some, but that was 7 or more years ago! > > For those who are curious about more recent menstruation habits, > there's > the online Museum of Menstruation: http://www.mum.org/ > > -- cv > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Number of machines
I have five, in total. I have two Viking basic machines, a Daisy and a 310 or 315. That one is over at the Consort's house for the sewing of his armor. I also have a Kenmore quilter's machine that was a gift from my mother*, her old avocado green metal Kenmore, with table, and an ancient electric with the brand name Stradivaro that scares me--it's very fast, and I don't think it understands "can't sew through X". And I'm trying to acquire a treadle machine and cabinet from a friend. Not sure where I'm going to put that one, though, the sewing room is kind of full at the moment. Jen/pixel/Margaret *I'd said to my sister that I needed a sewing machine to sew tents, because my first Kenmore (has since been sold to a friend) really wasn't up to it. Then I bought the first Viking. At Xmas, Mom hands me a very large box and says "You can open that and then I have to kill you." And she was very very confused when she offered to return the quilter's machine and I wrapped myself around it. "How many sewing machines do you *have*, now?" "Only three..." "But you won't use them all..." "Yes I will." ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes? Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come by thing! Thanks Serena Dyer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
> Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes? > Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come by thing! I haven't heard lately, but Amazon Drygoods used to have a great reputation for period shoes. http://www.amazondrygoods.com/ The Shoe Catalog Amazon Drygoods has been supplying the footwear need of the entertainment industry - films, stage, TV, Opera and ballet - for years. This catalog has 162 styles of historic reproduction shoes from all periods, in all sizes and colors for men, women and children. THE SHOE CATALOG: $5.00 To receive our catalogs send the correct amount (US funds only) for each catalog to: AMAZON DRYGOODS 411 Brady Street Davenport, IA 52801-1518 USA Phone: 1-800-798-7979 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy sewing, Deb The Mantua-Maker www.mantua-maker.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
JoAnn Peterson, owner of Laughing Moon Mercantile Patterns, has a new store in Old Sacramento, Calif. JoAnn caters to Gold Rush/Civil War reenactors. She has lots of great shoes/boots in her store, one or two of which are 1830s-40s appropriate. I don't know where she gets her shoes, but check out her website. http://www.saccitydrygoods.com/category-s/31.htm LynnD On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Serena Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes? > Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come by thing! > > Thanks > > Serena Dyer > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
The last time I tried to get a catalog from Amazon Dry Goods, they sent me a 3 year old catalog and wouldn't give me my money back when i called to say that I already had that catalog. Maybe they've finally updated their catalog and improved their customer service. YMMV, LynnD On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes? > Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come by thing! > > I haven't heard lately, but Amazon Drygoods used to have a great > reputation for period shoes. http://www.amazondrygoods.com/ > The Shoe Catalog > Amazon Drygoods has been supplying the footwear need of the entertainment > industry - films, stage, TV, Opera and ballet - for years. This catalog has > 162 styles of historic reproduction shoes from all periods, in all sizes and > colors for men, women and children. > THE SHOE CATALOG: $5.00 > > To receive our catalogs send the correct amount (US funds only) for each > catalog to: > > AMAZON DRYGOODS > 411 Brady Street > Davenport, IA 52801-1518 USA > Phone: 1-800-798-7979 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Happy sewing, >Deb > > The Mantua-Maker > www.mantua-maker.com > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
I don't know whether this site will help or not, but yum: http://www.sarahjuniper.co.uk/index.html. If anyone could make you period shoes and boots, I bet this woman could... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert - Original Message - From: "Lynn Downward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes > The last time I tried to get a catalog from Amazon Dry Goods, they sent me > a > 3 year old catalog and wouldn't give me my money back when i called to say > that I already had that catalog. Maybe they've finally updated their > catalog > and improved their customer service. > > YMMV, > LynnD > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes? >> Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come by thing! >> >> I haven't heard lately, but Amazon Drygoods used to have a great >> reputation for period shoes. http://www.amazondrygoods.com/ >> The Shoe Catalog >> Amazon Drygoods has been supplying the footwear need of the entertainment >> industry - films, stage, TV, Opera and ballet - for years. This catalog >> has >> 162 styles of historic reproduction shoes from all periods, in all sizes >> and >> colors for men, women and children. >> THE SHOE CATALOG: $5.00 >> >> To receive our catalogs send the correct amount (US funds only) for each >> catalog to: >> >> AMAZON DRYGOODS >> 411 Brady Street >> Davenport, IA 52801-1518 USA >> Phone: 1-800-798-7979 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Happy sewing, >>Deb >> >> The Mantua-Maker >> www.mantua-maker.com >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
Sarah Juniper is a DREAM!!! YEars and YEARS ago...let me stt is ust have beenabout 15 or so yers ago I was in England and ran into this woman at a Cavalier reenactment. I ordered shoes from her tht I have literally worn out...they were not !8hundreds shoes but she can do anything...and they hold up like noboies business and are of course repairable if they wear out...its just that 15 years welll..when you wear them at least 200 days a yearis gonna wear ANYTHING out completely..I highly recomend her nomatter what the price is now...she is a genius.! Bambi Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know whether this site will help or not, but yum: http://www.sarahjuniper.co.uk/index.html. If anyone could make you period shoes and boots, I bet this woman could... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert - Original Message - From: "Lynn Downward" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes > The last time I tried to get a catalog from Amazon Dry Goods, they sent me > a > 3 year old catalog and wouldn't give me my money back when i called to say > that I already had that catalog. Maybe they've finally updated their > catalog > and improved their customer service. > > YMMV, > LynnD > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Can anyone recommend a good maker of 1830s-40s ladies' boots or shoes? >> Accurate ones seem to be a very hard to come by thing! >> >> I haven't heard lately, but Amazon Drygoods used to have a great >> reputation for period shoes. http://www.amazondrygoods.com/ >> The Shoe Catalog >> Amazon Drygoods has been supplying the footwear need of the entertainment >> industry - films, stage, TV, Opera and ballet - for years. This catalog >> has >> 162 styles of historic reproduction shoes from all periods, in all sizes >> and >> colors for men, women and children. >> THE SHOE CATALOG: $5.00 >> >> To receive our catalogs send the correct amount (US funds only) for each >> catalog to: >> >> AMAZON DRYGOODS >> 411 Brady Street >> Davenport, IA 52801-1518 USA >> Phone: 1-800-798-7979 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Happy sewing, >>Deb >> >> The Mantua-Maker >> www.mantua-maker.com >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 900ad (please correct me if i have the date wrong!) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
Amazon buys all their shoes from Annello & Davide in London and I at least have bought direct from Annello & Davide. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Lynn Downward wrote: > The last time I tried to get a catalog from Amazon Dry Goods, they sent me a > 3 year old catalog and wouldn't give me my money back when i called to say > that I already had that catalog. Maybe they've finally updated their catalog > and improved their customer service. > > YMMV, > LynnD > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Boots and Shoes
I also have a pair of shoes by Sarah Juniper (1570s), and I can't say enough good things about them. She will make them as accurate as you wish, and you have never worn anything so comfortable. Two caveats: as far as I know, she does not have email, and she does not take credit cards. For those of us across the pond, it makes doing business less convenient, but it is SO worth it. Melanie Schuessler On May 12, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Gilbert wrote: > I don't know whether this site will help or not, but yum: > http://www.sarahjuniper.co.uk/index.html. If anyone could make you > period > shoes and boots, I bet this woman could... > > Marjorie > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval Clothing & Textiles V.4
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 8:52:26 pm Ann Catelli wrote: > My copy of the title journal arrived in my hands today, on the east coast > of the US. It was ordered directly from Boydell & Brewster. > > Ann in CT > only two papers read so far > more treats to come :) I ordered my copy from Boydell & Brewer also. It arrived Friday, but I've only read one of the papers so far. Great stuff! -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You affect the world by what you browse."-- Tim Berners-Lee ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fwd: Cambridge History of Western Textiles - special offer from DBBC
Some of us have said before what an evil tempter Ian Stevens of David Brown Book Company (Oxbow Books' American affiliate) can be. This time he's outdone himself. Heaven knows *I'm* tempted. Look! -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Cambridge History of Western Textiles - special offer from DBBC Date: Monday 12 May 2008 From: Ian Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Catherine Raymond, We have managed to secure some copies of "The Cambridge History of Western Textiles" to sell at the amazing price of $99.98. This two-volume set usually sells for $460.00. Order before the end of May to get that price. After that, the price is very likely to increase. Simply follow the link below to place your order securely online. Copies will be with us in the next week or so and we will bill and ship your orders as soon as we can thereafter. With regards, Ian Stevens The David Brown Book Company Tel_ 1-800-791-9354 - - To change your user profile follow this link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/elist.cfm/Location/DBBC/EmailAddress/cathy%40thyrsus%2Ecom To unsubscribe from this list follow this link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/un_sub.cfm/Location/DBBC/MailingListID/24882/EmailAddress/cathy%40thyrsus%2Ecom --- -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "You affect the world by what you browse."-- Tim Berners-Lee ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
I think you may have happened upon a server error or somesuch; it was working fine this morning and is likewise this evening. Sylvia Rognstad wrote: > The museum appears to have been closed. > > > On May 12, 2008, at 7:22 AM, Cynthia Virtue wrote: > > >> I know we've discussed it some, but that was 7 or more years ago! >> >> For those who are curious about more recent menstruation habits, >> there's >> the online Museum of Menstruation: http://www.mum.org/ >> ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Norris' Medieval Costume and Fashion
Hello all, Having just received Norris in a gift basket this last weekend, I am wondering how good his TEXT is. I've heard so many of you mention this as one of the least desirable of costuming books, but no one says why. Some of that is obvious, just looking at the pictures, but I wanted to get your opinions. The date of origin is a big one, I'm sure, but what else? Thanks, Genie Who would rather look at Chinese costume more than European these days. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Norris' Medieval Costume and Fashion
I have his Tudor volume rather than the Medieval one, but the text in the Tudor volume is entirely suspect. Just as in his drawings, in his text there are some good bits of information and some that are almost entirely invented. Since he doesn't cite anything, the only way you'll know the difference is to check up on him with other sources. My favorite example from the Tudor book is a lovely drawing of Queen Elizabeth riding a horse in a black gown. When I first saw it, I thought, "Neat! I don't recognize that portrait--I wonder where it is..." since he often redraws from 16th-century images. Looking in the text, however, I found that he had invented the picture based on a short description from a 16th-century text. He included the description in full. Looking at the date on the description and the picture, I found that he hadn't really paid attention to what was fashionable in that year when he was drawing. Much later, I found the actual description in the original source and realized that not only had he invented the picture on rather scanty evidence (and done a fairly poor job of it), he had embellished the description in his text as well, adding in details not found in the original! I have also found the originals of some of his redrawings, and he is very prone to "correcting" the images so they'll be in line with his own sense of current fashion, including adding a cute little bow on top of a french hood in one redrawing of a memorial brass. I don't trust him an inch. Melanie Schuessler On May 12, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Genie Barrett wrote: > Having just received Norris in a gift basket this last weekend, I am > wondering how good his TEXT is. I've heard so many of you mention > this as one of the least desirable of costuming books, but no one > says why. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Norris' Medieval Costume and Fashion
Genie Barrett wrote: > Hello all, > > Having just received Norris in a gift basket this last weekend, I am > wondering how good his TEXT is. I've heard so many of you mention > this as one of the least desirable of costuming books, but no one > says why. Some of that is obvious, just looking at the pictures, but > I wanted to get your opinions. The date of origin is a big one, I'm > sure, but what else? The date is the root of most of the issues. Norris was doing quite a good job for his day, and is actually better than some of the later costume texts, but far better things have been published since his time. The issues with redrawing, reinterpreting, and not really understanding what he's looking at have been mentioned. He also perpetuates earlier mistakes. A lot of this stems from earlier attitudes about costuming, which tried to interpret images and descriptions of clothing in forms familiar to the reader of that time, rather than according to sound historical research and analysis. Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages
I've heard that even today, in countries where women work hard and/or have poor nutrition, menopause sets in much earlier, around the 30's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zuzana Kraemerova Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:01 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] Menstruation in Middle Ages Hi, I'm sorry if this has been discussed before - I've glanced through the archives and didn't find much - please point me to an earlier discussion if so. But my question is, is there any evidence and info on how did the medieval women deal with menstruation? Did they use special clothes (could they use something like pants???)? I've also heard that menstruation in the earlier times was much different from today and the menstruation could not have been such a big deal after all (not to talk about the fact that women were very often pregnant) I'm also interested in later periods - up to the 18th century - I think the way of dealing with it would have been similar to how it was done in the middle ages...but I really don't know much about this topic, that's why I rather post here and ask:-) Thanks, Zuzana - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume