Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
For 18thC stays, which have straighter lines than the later era corsets, a possibility for making a muslin is to use cardboard. Ordinary heavy fabric won't have the vertical stiffness. The cardboard will help determine if the stays are too long, digging into an armpit, etc etc. And, of course, se duct tape to hold the cardboard pieces together! :-) -Carol On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
The LAughing Moon Corset is the one I use to teach my corset workshops, although I use both the Dore and the Silverado. The Silverado has the advantage of having bust gores, which make it much easier to adjust the bust fit (they can also be used as hip gores if extra fabric isneeded at the hip.). I would say that the instructions aren't bad, although I have my own corset method, which makes a much more durable corset than Ive ever made from a published pattern. The main thing, is to get the size right--and that means make a muslin! And make sure the side areas aren't rubbing too high. I haven't made a corset from TV patterns, although other patterns Ive used from TV, including many bodices, skirts and jackets, have worked out extremely well. Yours in cosutming,Lisa A On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net writes: I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
This method has been promoted on the 18th century Rev War list as well. Susan NJ On Jan 8, 11, at 8:45 AM, Carol Kocian wrote: For 18thC stays, which have straighter lines than the later era corsets, a possibility for making a muslin is to use cardboard. Ordinary heavy fabric won't have the vertical stiffness. The cardboard will help determine if the stays are too long, digging into an armpit, etc etc. And, of course, se duct tape to hold the cardboard pieces together! :-) -Carol On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair work
Thanks for the recommendation---I ordered the book, surprisingly, Lacis had it for less than Amazon, but it does look like what I need to do this. IT could be a whole new venture for me, esp. since I could learn to make the findings from PMC. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:10:17 -0600 Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.com writes: On 12/31/2010 10:46 AM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: Does anyone have a book suggestion for learining to make Victorian hair lockets/brooches? It's my dearest wish to start making these. Hi Lisa, I don't know whether it's exactly what you had in mind, but Lacis publishes a reprint of an 1875 book called The Art of Hair Work by Mark Campbell (shown here: http://lacis.com/catalog/). It mainly seems to involve the different types of braid you can make. Emily ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Costume Con 29
Hello everyone, Lisa Ashton here. I am the PRogram Director for Costume Con 29 to be held at the end of April in Hasbrouck Heights, NJ. http://cc29nj.com/default.aspx We would LOVE to have you come and join us in t he costume adventure. If you are attending, I would LOVE to put you on a panel or two about historical costumes, using primary sources, or if you ahve a special costume itnerest. Please feel free to email me directly, or through the website if you would like to be a program participant. Single Day memberships will also be available at the door. Unfortunately , I am not able to offer any complimentary memberships, even if you are participating--the convention is too small to allow it, even the Committee members pay themembership fee. But it will be a great time! Yours in costuming, Lisa A lis...@juno.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
Have you looked at the Mantua-Maker patterns? My Mid-Victorian corset might be better if you have lots of curves since it has gores, but my Late Victorian corset was intended to go with that type of dress. Happy sewing, Deb Salisbury The Mantua-Maker Designer and creator of quality historical sewing patterns, Renaissance to Victorian Now available: Elephant's Breath and London Smoke: Historical Colors, Names, Definitions Uses www.mantua-maker.com I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair work
You're welcome! I'd spotted the book at my local library a while back, and when you mentioned wanting to learn hair work, I thought of it right away. Have fun experimenting with it - it sounds like a really neat craft! Emily On 1/8/2011 9:08 AM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: Thanks for the recommendation---I ordered the book, surprisingly, Lacis had it for less than Amazon, but it does look like what I need to do this. IT could be a whole new venture for me, esp. since I could learn to make the findings from PMC. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:10:17 -0600 Emily Gilbertemchantm...@gmail.com writes: On 12/31/2010 10:46 AM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: Does anyone have a book suggestion for learining to make Victorian hair lockets/brooches? It's my dearest wish to start making these. Hi Lisa, I don't know whether it's exactly what you had in mind, but Lacis publishes a reprint of an 1875 book called The Art of Hair Work by Mark Campbell (shown here: http://lacis.com/catalog/). It mainly seems to involve the different types of braid you can make. Emily ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 15th Year Anniversary
I'm still here! I just don't have as much time to post these days, and most of the discussion of my main interest area has moved over to my own Yahoo list. I joined in '96, when I was typing one handed because I was breastfeeding a newborn. Now he's in high school, and taking an interest in costuming. He was the only kid to attend his eighth grade gradation in an impeccable vintage tuxedo. The H-costume list saved my sanity, such as it was, during my early Mommy years. it gave me a way to talk to grownups about my interests, and, wow, did I. For several years I was vying with Penny and Maggiros to be the most prolific poster. In 1999, when I started my business, h-cos was my source for vending vendors and suppliers, my focus group, and an eager customer base. It would have been far more difficult to do without the list members. Just to point out how different things were back then, I used to get up in the morning, start my email program, go to the kitchen and make a cup of coffee, put a load of laundry in, and come back to my computer just in time for the 100+ H-costume messages to show up. Most websites were Netscape grey with Times Roman fonts and no pictures, and pictures on E-bay were a rarity as well. On the other hand, spam was so rare as to be remarkable when you got some in your email. Here's to many more years! Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair work
Lisa - There will be a merchant in the Marketplace at the 1860s Conference that makes very nice reproduction hair jewelry. She may have some suggestions on learning the craft and where to find findings, etc. Another merchant always has a great selection of original hair jewelry for sale or inspiration. Regards, Carolann Schmitt cschm...@genteelarts.com www.genteelarts.com Ladies Gentlemen of the 1860s Conference, March 3-6, 2011 Does anyone have a book suggestion for learining to make Victorian hair lockets/brooches? It's my dearest wish to start making these. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair work
If it is the same person that was there several years back, she did an excellent job of weaving some of my own hair to put into an antique brooch that had no hair in it at all when I bought it. (I wouldn't have taken out original hair to put my own in.) Luckily I have past my waist length hair so I only had to send her a little, because it went a long way. Vicki Betts Lisa - There will be a merchant in the Marketplace at the 1860s Conference that makes very nice reproduction hair jewelry. Regards, Carolann Schmitt ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair work
That sounds terrific. I hope to have read the book, and possibly even started a project by then, but we'll see. I was planning on bringing my two vintage pieces to show and get comments on as well, I wore one of them with my first 1861 recreation dress at Philcon (a SF con in theP hila. area every November), I competed with a friend from Philly who made a Union Officer's uniform, and we won Best in Show. And we looked great, I thought. Right now I'm beginning another dress, becasue I'm at the conference for several days and I want to ahve an extra outtfit. Too much else to do for other conventions (not to mention my actual job to pay teh mortgage) to attempt a ballgown of the era at this point, but hopefully in the future. Yours in costuming, Lisa A On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:51:56 -0500 Lists li...@genteelarts.com writes: Lisa - There will be a merchant in the Marketplace at the 1860s Conference that makes very nice reproduction hair jewelry. She may have some suggestions on learning the craft and where to find findings, etc. Another merchant always has a great selection of original hair jewelry for sale or inspiration. Regards, Carolann Schmitt cschm...@genteelarts.com www.genteelarts.com Ladies Gentlemen of the 1860s Conference, March 3-6, 2011 Does anyone have a book suggestion for learining to make Victorian hair lockets/brooches? It's my dearest wish to start making these. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair work
It one of you gets good at hair work, look me up. I have my daughter's long braid from her first haircut at 6 y.o. I saved it to have hair work made. The braid is very thick and curly. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book review
I know the book, it is originally written in Czech but has been translated into French and English (at least). I don't remember whether there are some coloured pictures, but if they are, there aren't many, most of it is black and white. There are no redrawings, only original art, but the quality of the pictures isn't as good as todays books - the book is actually quite old, but has been re-published. Ludmila Kybalova is the leading expert in costume history in the Czech Republic, she has written other books on the topic that haven't been translated. Personally, I think her texts aren't worth reading, at least they are too boring and sometimes misleading. A bit too global, nothing goes into detail, and if it does, it is questionable. She is not exact in her theories, she has little proves to what she says. Nevertheless I own some of her books and I do lurk into them - there is still some good info, although it's mainly the pictures, not the text. Hope this helps, Zuzana ___ Sartor...custom-made costumes www.sartor.cz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Silk ribbon embroidery supplies
ribbonconnections.com Zuzana ___ Sartor...custom-made costumes www.sartor.cz --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Janine Crocker jan...@missameliasminiatures.com wrote: From: Janine Crocker jan...@missameliasminiatures.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk ribbon embroidery supplies To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 1:17 AM Hi Fran I find http://threadart.com very good for silk ribbon. They are reasonably priced and deliver quickly and easily to me in Spain. I suppose the only drawback is that there are only between 30 and 50 shades available in each width which can be a bit limiting if you want lots of tones of the same colour. Best wishes Janine http://missameliasminiatures.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:56:59 -0600 From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Message-ID: e1pbrmm-0001ik...@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. These have made corset making much easier!! Sandy This is so useful, and it works well for other things that will be laced too, like 14th/15th century fitted gowns. Pinning stuff closed just doesn't give you a good impression of how it is working. I use an old gown opening that I cut out of a dress I was adjusting, from the days before I started doing hand sewn lacing holes. Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hair work
Thanks for the recommendation---I ordered the book, surprisingly, Lacis had it for less than Amazon, but it does look like what I need to do this. IT could be a whole new venture for me, esp. since I could learn to make the findings from PMC. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A *** Oops - sorry, I just saw this. I've been buying everything I can find on hair work. I found this book as a free download on Google Books. It's not a crystal clear copy but you could see if it's what you want. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
