[h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Natalie]

I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she previously only 
kept my crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done website 
detailing how to make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but 
now my google-fu fails me and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is 
not so much the pattern construction that eludes me as what to use to 
stiffen the corset to create the conical 'Bethan shape instead of 
Barbie's hourglass.


If anyone has any ideas or can point me to the site I am wondering 
about, it would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance!


Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Alexandria Doyle]

When making a doll's corset of a scale to Barbie, I used tooth picks
snipped to the length desired.  otherwise the consrtuction was the
same as I'd do for myself.  My doll was squishable, so I'd guess that
Barbie will have to have a bit of padding to fill in the gaps inside
the corset.
alex
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Natalie  wrote:
> I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she previously only
> kept my crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done website
> detailing how to make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now my
> google-fu fails me and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much
> the pattern construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset
> to create the conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.
>
> If anyone has any ideas or can point me to the site I am wondering about, it
> would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
>
> Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[cw15147-hcost01]

I've used 1/8" zip ties to bone doll corsets, for hard-body, not-squishable 
dolls. But I was making Victorian corsets. With a pair-of-bodies, you'll just 
have to let there be airspace under her boobs.

Do share the results. :)



Claudine



- Original Message 
> From: Natalie 
> To: Historical Costume 
> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:18:29 AM
> Subject: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie
> 
> I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she previously only kept 
>my  crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done website detailing 
>how to  make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now my google-fu 
>fails me  and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much the pattern 
> 
>construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset to create the 
> 
>conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.
> 
> If anyone has any  ideas or can point me to the site I am wondering about, it 
>would be very much  appreciated! Thanks in  advance!
> 
> Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Carol Kocian]

I read once that you can heat up a Barbie and squish her body into  
the shape you want. I don't know anything beyond that, but since  
Elizabethan tended to flatten and the 18thC effect is "pleasing  
mounds," Barbie's original shape is not quite right.


-Carol


On Jan 14, 2011, at 12:30 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote:

I've used 1/8" zip ties to bone doll corsets, for hard-body, not- 
squishable
dolls. But I was making Victorian corsets. With a pair-of-bodies,  
you'll just

have to let there be airspace under her boobs.

Do share the results. :)



Claudine



- Original Message 

From: Natalie 
To: Historical Costume 
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:18:29 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she  
previously only kept
my  crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done  
website detailing
how to  make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now  
my google-fu
fails me  and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much  
the pattern
construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset  
to create the

conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.

If anyone has any  ideas or can point me to the site I am  
wondering about, it

would be very much  appreciated! Thanks in  advance!

Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Ann Catelli]

molendrix maybe??

http://www.molendrix.com/

Ann in CT

--- On Fri, 1/14/11, Natalie  wrote:

> I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a
> new direction (she previously only kept my crochet hook
> busy). I know I have seen a very well done website detailing
> how to make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but
> now my google-fu fails me and I don't have it bookmarked
> either. It is not so much the pattern construction that
> eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset to create the
> conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas or can point me to the site I am
> wondering about, it would be very much appreciated! Thanks
> in advance!
> 
> Natalie
 


  
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Natalie]

Oh yes, thank you! Such an inspiration. Thanks for the link, and thanks 
for all the suggestions so far!


Natalie

On 1/14/2011 12:51 PM, Ann Catelli wrote:

molendrix maybe??

http://www.molendrix.com/

Ann in CT

--- On Fri, 1/14/11, Natalie  wrote:


I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a
new direction (she previously only kept my crochet hook
busy). I know I have seen a very well done website detailing
how to make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but
now my google-fu fails me and I don't have it bookmarked
either. It is not so much the pattern construction that
eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset to create the
conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.

If anyone has any ideas or can point me to the site I am
wondering about, it would be very much appreciated! Thanks
in advance!

Natalie





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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[cw15147-hcost01]

It just occurred to me, for a body that small I would skip the underpinnings, 
and build the structure into the gown itself. The underpinnings may add to much 
bulk to make the garment look right. It just comes down to your goal, accurate 
from the skin out or merely accurate to the eye.

Here's some more photos to give you ideas, just look for the links that say 
"Doll Size".






Claudine



- Original Message 
> From: Natalie 
> To: Historical Costume 
> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:18:29 AM
> Subject: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie
> 
> I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she previously only kept 
>my  crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done website detailing 
>how to  make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now my google-fu 
>fails me  and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much the pattern 
> 
>construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset to create the 
> 
>conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.
> 
> If anyone has any  ideas or can point me to the site I am wondering about, it 
>would be very much  appreciated! Thanks in  advance!
> 
> Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Natalie]

Oh very helpful link,thank you!

I'm going for a skin-out accuracy... as much as possible anyway with 
machine sewing. I'm just going to have to be careful in my fabric 
selection so there isn't too much bulk.


I'll be sure to share pics when I'm done, though it may be a long 
process since I'm also a SAHM to 2 busy boys under 3!


Natalie


On 1/14/2011 1:58 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote:

It just occurred to me, for a body that small I would skip the underpinnings,
and build the structure into the gown itself. The underpinnings may add to much
bulk to make the garment look right. It just comes down to your goal, accurate
from the skin out or merely accurate to the eye.

Here's some more photos to give you ideas, just look for the links that say
"Doll Size".






Claudine



- Original Message 

From: Natalie
To: Historical Costume
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:18:29 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she previously only kept
my  crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done website detailing
how to  make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now my google-fu
fails me  and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much the pattern
construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset to create the
conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.

If anyone has any  ideas or can point me to the site I am wondering about, it
would be very much  appreciated! Thanks in  advance!

Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Alexandria Doyle]

You might find the work easier to do with hand rather than machine.  I
have found that the smaller the doll and costume the easier it was to
sew by hand.  One of the things is that seam widths are easier to keep
to the narrow by hand and that will help with the bulk too.

alex
So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…



On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Natalie  wrote:
> Oh very helpful link,thank you!
>
> I'm going for a skin-out accuracy... as much as possible anyway with machine
> sewing. I'm just going to have to be careful in my fabric selection so there
> isn't too much bulk.
>
> I'll be sure to share pics when I'm done, though it may be a long process
> since I'm also a SAHM to 2 busy boys under 3!
>
> Natalie
>
>
> On 1/14/2011 1:58 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> It just occurred to me, for a body that small I would skip the
>> underpinnings,
>> and build the structure into the gown itself. The underpinnings may add to
>> much
>> bulk to make the garment look right. It just comes down to your goal,
>> accurate
>> from the skin out or merely accurate to the eye.
>>
>> Here's some more photos to give you ideas, just look for the links that
>> say
>> "Doll Size".
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Claudine
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message 
>>>
>>> From: Natalie
>>> To: Historical Costume
>>> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:18:29 AM
>>> Subject: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie
>>>
>>> I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she previously only
>>> kept
>>> my  crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done website
>>> detailing
>>> how to  make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now my
>>> google-fu
>>> fails me  and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much the
>>> pattern
>>> construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset to
>>> create the
>>> conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any  ideas or can point me to the site I am wondering
>>> about, it
>>> would be very much  appreciated! Thanks in  advance!
>>>
>>> Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Marjorie Wilser]

Suggestion:

Since Barbie doesn't _need_ the support, make it to-the-eye look good,  
and use boning (toothpicks, giggle!) only in front, so the clothing  
doesn't collapse in the underboob space she has. And don't use bones  
in the sides or back. Just stitch channels and don't fill 'em.


You'll need edge stiffeners, front and back, so you can lace the bodies.

== Marjorie Wilser

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On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Natalie wrote:


Oh very helpful link,thank you!

I'm going for a skin-out accuracy... as much as possible anyway with  
machine sewing. I'm just going to have to be careful in my fabric  
selection so there isn't too much bulk.


I'll be sure to share pics when I'm done, though it may be a long  
process since I'm also a SAHM to 2 busy boys under 3!


Natalie


On 1/14/2011 1:58 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote:
It just occurred to me, for a body that small I would skip the  
underpinnings,
and build the structure into the gown itself. The underpinnings may  
add to much
bulk to make the garment look right. It just comes down to your  
goal, accurate

from the skin out or merely accurate to the eye.

Here's some more photos to give you ideas, just look for the links  
that say

"Doll Size".






Claudine



- Original Message 

From: Natalie
To: Historical Costume
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:18:29 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

I'm taking my passion for Barbie in a new direction (she  
previously only kept
my  crochet hook busy). I know I have seen a very well done  
website detailing
how to  make early Elizabethan underpinnings for Barbie, but now  
my google-fu
fails me  and I don't have it bookmarked either. It is not so much  
the pattern
construction that eludes me as what to use to stiffen the corset  
to create the

conical 'Bethan shape instead of Barbie's hourglass.

If anyone has any  ideas or can point me to the site I am  
wondering about, it

would be very much  appreciated! Thanks in  advance!

Natalie
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Re: [h-cost] Early Elizabethan Corsets for Barbie

[Natalie]

On 1/14/2011 3:57 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote:

Suggestion:

Since Barbie doesn't _need_ the support, make it to-the-eye look good, 
and use boning (toothpicks, giggle!) only in front, so the clothing 
doesn't collapse in the underboob space she has. And don't use bones 
in the sides or back. Just stitch channels and don't fill 'em.


You'll need edge stiffeners, front and back, so you can lace the bodies.



I had thought about leaving "bones" out altogether and perhaps 
stiffening the entire garment with an interlining of some type, then 
doing false channels. Perhaps buckram? But your suggestion of just doing 
the front is also appealing!


On 1/14/2011 3:08 PM, Alexandria Doyle wrote:

You might find the work easier to do with hand rather than machine.  I
have found that the smaller the doll and costume the easier it was to
sew by hand.  One of the things is that seam widths are easier to keep
to the narrow by hand and that will help with the bulk too.

alex
So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…


That would be so true, but my hand sewing is absolutely terrible. Some 
would argue that to be an excellent opportunity for practicing my skills 
but... :) I'm fairly well used to small seam allowances. When I learned 
to sew, it was by having the fabric follow the edge of the foot rather 
then the seam allowance guild on the sewing machine. I do imagine I'll 
end up hand sewing at least part of it though.


Natalie


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