Re: [h-cost] book sale

[Patricia Dunham]

Yes, Pls, Do Send List.

YAY, our elect. is back! landline & internet next! (hoorah for a kid who can 
set us up w wi-fi from the apple-phone)

Chimney 


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 11:29 AM, mhprobe...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi List, I'm clearing out various costume/textile books, most in like new
> condition. If you're interested, email me and I'll send you the titles.
> Melissa Roberts
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[h-cost] book sale

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Hi List, I'm clearing out various costume/textile books, most in like new
condition. If you're interested, email me and I'll send you the titles.
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[h-cost] Book for sale

[Katie Lewis]

I have a copy of Juan de Alcega's _Tailor's Handbook_.  This is the edition
that includes an English translation and notes, in addition to a facsimile
of the original text.  It is severely out of print, and I'm willing to sell
my copy for $250, including shipping, which is considerably less than it is
selling for used on amazon or ebay.  There is some minor damage to the back
cover, but otherwise it is in very good condition.
If you are interested, please email me privately.

-Katie
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Re: [h-cost] Book Covers

[Franchesca]

I have many friends in the industry. They all will gladly tell you that you
have to make sure you have it in writing that you give final approval of the
cover. It is an often overlooked part of the contract.

Most of the folks I know have a few artist friends on retainer specifically
for book covers. Grant it these are few and far between authors that do this
but not every knows that can have it written up in the contract.

Franchesca 


: -Original Message-
: From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-
: boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Emily Gilbert
: Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:19 AM
: To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
: Subject: Re: [h-cost] Book Covers
: 
: Slightly OT, but a friend of mine writes YA fantasy, and while her first
: few covers were a little dubious, she's really pleased with the designs
: for her upcoming book and for a new edition of another one.  She says
: for once the cover pictures actually look like her heroines.
: 
: Emily
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Re: [h-cost] Book Covers

[Emily Gilbert]

Slightly OT, but a friend of mine writes YA fantasy, and while her first 
few covers were a little dubious, she's really pleased with the designs 
for her upcoming book and for a new edition of another one.  She says 
for once the cover pictures actually look like her heroines.


Emily

On 9/26/2011 4:41 PM, Monica Spence wrote:

I, too, write romances, and I've been fighting the "bodice ripper" label for
years. To me, bad book covers are on the same level as poorly done
historical costumes or bad SCA garb. ( I teach Costume History on the
college level  and my husband and I are in the SCA, so I know from whence I
speak.)

There is a silver lining in bad book covers. That cover with the three limbs
allowed Christina Dodd cover approval for her novels. Likewise, my friend
Kristan Higgins got cover control when the artist put the wrong breed of dog
on her book cover.

Of course, it helps if you are a bestselling New York Times author.

Other authors I know must rely on the generosity of the cover gods. :-)
Some have really been blessed.

Monica Spence

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Valerie Robertson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:39 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Book Covers

Um, you guys know that "bodice ripper" is considered insulting by romance
writers, right?  Kind of like "costume nazi" among historical clothing
researchers.  And since I'm a published romance novelist (science fiction,
so the clothes aren't a problem) and have been researching historical
clothing for more than two decades, I feel qualified to make the comparison.


As far as getting the dress correct on book covers, in 1993 Christina Dodd
became infamous because of a cover that went to press with the heroine
having THREE ARMS. If Avon, the leading US publisher of historical romances,
couldn't get the number of limbs correct with all their editors and a full
art department, do you really think they even care if the dress details are
correct?


For the record, the dress sucked; 14th century kirtle with bell sleeves
gathered at her left wrist in a ruffle--yes, a ruffle--at one right wrist
without a ruffle, and no cuff, gathering band, ruffle, or sleeve visible at
all at the other right wrist. The hero is wearing a Templar tunic, or it
might be a white tunic with a red Maltese cross on it (cue eyelid twitch).


Of course, that book is a collector's item now and resells for hundreds of
dollars, but still, they failed at counting to two.

Got seams in the wrong place...visible zipper lines...wrong kind of lacing
for the period...neckline that defies physics? Well, yes.

Does she have two arms? Hey, it's all good.


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Re: [h-cost] Book Covers

[Monica Spence]

I, too, write romances, and I've been fighting the "bodice ripper" label for
years. To me, bad book covers are on the same level as poorly done
historical costumes or bad SCA garb. ( I teach Costume History on the
college level  and my husband and I are in the SCA, so I know from whence I
speak.) 

There is a silver lining in bad book covers. That cover with the three limbs
allowed Christina Dodd cover approval for her novels. Likewise, my friend
Kristan Higgins got cover control when the artist put the wrong breed of dog
on her book cover.

Of course, it helps if you are a bestselling New York Times author. 

Other authors I know must rely on the generosity of the cover gods. :-)
Some have really been blessed.

Monica Spence

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Valerie Robertson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:39 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Book Covers

Um, you guys know that "bodice ripper" is considered insulting by romance
writers, right?  Kind of like "costume nazi" among historical clothing
researchers.  And since I'm a published romance novelist (science fiction,
so the clothes aren't a problem) and have been researching historical
clothing for more than two decades, I feel qualified to make the comparison.


As far as getting the dress correct on book covers, in 1993 Christina Dodd
became infamous because of a cover that went to press with the heroine
having THREE ARMS. If Avon, the leading US publisher of historical romances,
couldn't get the number of limbs correct with all their editors and a full
art department, do you really think they even care if the dress details are
correct?


For the record, the dress sucked; 14th century kirtle with bell sleeves
gathered at her left wrist in a ruffle--yes, a ruffle--at one right wrist
without a ruffle, and no cuff, gathering band, ruffle, or sleeve visible at
all at the other right wrist. The hero is wearing a Templar tunic, or it
might be a white tunic with a red Maltese cross on it (cue eyelid twitch).


Of course, that book is a collector's item now and resells for hundreds of
dollars, but still, they failed at counting to two. 

Got seams in the wrong place...visible zipper lines...wrong kind of lacing
for the period...neckline that defies physics? Well, yes. 

Does she have two arms? Hey, it's all good.


Valerie Robertson
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[h-cost] Book Covers

[Valerie Robertson]

Um, you guys know that "bodice ripper" is considered insulting by romance 
writers, right?  Kind of like "costume nazi" among historical clothing 
researchers.  And since I'm a published romance novelist (science fiction, so 
the clothes aren't a problem) and have been researching historical clothing for 
more than two decades, I feel qualified to make the comparison.


As far as getting the dress correct on book covers, in 1993 Christina Dodd 
became infamous because of a cover that went to press with the heroine having 
THREE ARMS. If Avon, the leading US publisher of historical romances, couldn't 
get the number of limbs correct with all their editors and a full art 
department, do you really think they even care if the dress details are correct?


For the record, the dress sucked; 14th century kirtle with bell sleeves 
gathered at her left wrist in a ruffle--yes, a ruffle--at one right wrist 
without a ruffle, and no cuff, gathering band, ruffle, or sleeve visible at all 
at the other right wrist. The hero is wearing a Templar tunic, or it might be a 
white tunic with a red Maltese cross on it (cue eyelid twitch).


Of course, that book is a collector's item now and resells for hundreds of 
dollars, but still, they failed at counting to two. 

Got seams in the wrong place...visible zipper lines...wrong kind of lacing for 
the period...neckline that defies physics? Well, yes. 

Does she have two arms? Hey, it's all good.


Valerie Robertson
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Re: [h-cost] Book suggestions?

[Kim Baird]

Anything else by EW Barber is also good, including her book about the Tarim
mummies. You might look for John Gillow books on African or other textiles.
Also Textiles: 5000 Years, ed. Jennifer Harris. And The Age of Homespun by
Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.
The Root of Wild Madder, Brian Murphy
Miao Textiles from China, Gina Corrigan
Mauve: How One Man Invented the Color that Changed the World, Simon Garfield

Kim

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Laurie Taylor
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:23 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: [h-cost] Book suggestions?

What would you suggest as a follow-up to Women's Work: The First 20,000
Years: Women, Cloth, and Society in Early Times by Elizabeth Wayland Barber?

Laurie T.

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[h-cost] Book suggestions?

[Laurie Taylor]

What would you suggest as a follow-up to Women's Work: The First 20,000
Years: Women, Cloth, and Society in Early Times by Elizabeth Wayland Barber?

Laurie T.

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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

I know the book, it is originally written in Czech but has been translated into 
French and English (at least). I don't remember whether there are some coloured 
pictures, but if they are, there aren't many, most of it is black and white. 
There are no redrawings, only original art, but the quality of the pictures 
isn't as good as todays books - the book is actually quite old, but has been 
re-published. Ludmila Kybalova is the leading "expert" in costume history in 
the Czech Republic, she has written other books on the topic that haven't been 
translated. Personally, I think her texts aren't worth reading, at least they 
are too boring and sometimes misleading. A bit too global, nothing goes into 
detail, and if it does, it is questionable. She is not exact in her theories, 
she has little proves to what she says. Nevertheless I own some of her books 
and I do lurk into them - there is still some good info, although it's mainly 
the pictures, not the text.

Hope this helps,

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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[Lisa A Ashton]

You all are pretty persuasive--I just ordered this on Amazon and my toal
was only $6.93.  I"m willing to take a chance for that, and it sounds
like a great book!  (like I need another costume-related book..after
the incredible stuff I found over the summer at flea markets). 
Anyway, my holiday season was pretty much taken up by working 4 days in a
row, and I have two night shifts coming (I;'m a  PA in an ER) so I
deserve a little something, eh?

Thanks for all the book recommendations and always itneresting topics. 
Does anyone have a book suggestion for learining to make Victorian hair
lockets/brooches?  It's my dearest wish to start making these.

Yours in cosutming,Lisa A
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:08:19 -0500 Leah Janette 
writes:
> 
> 
> I would say it is definately worth getting, but not at that price!  
> It was also published in English as The Pictorial Encyclopedia of 
> Fashion and you can find it on Amazon for a much better price and 
> only $4 shipping from the U.S. vendors:
>  
>
http://www.amazon.com/PICTORIAL-ENCYCLOPEDIA-FASHION-Ludmila-Kybalova/dp/
B000HJVBWU/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293764244&sr=1-3
>  
> It has a great collection of black and white pictures, some of which 
> are obscure.  No re-drawings, only the actual art!
>  
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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[Catherine Olanich Raymond]

On 12/30/2010 09:34 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote:

At 06:01 PM 12/30/2010, you wrote:

I've been asked about this book, but not haven't seen it before, I
couldn't offer much. Has anyone seen this one? Good Bad?

http://www.etsy.com/listing/39296868/encyclopedie-illustree-du-costume-et-de


alex
So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…


I must say that for $15 I'd take a chance on it.


Assuming you can read French, of course.



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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[annbwass]

PS--abebooks has copies starting as low as $2.95 with an additional $2.95 
shipping.

Ann Wass




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 would say it is definately worth getting, but not at that price!  It was also 
blished in English as The Pictorial Encyclopedia of Fashion and you can find 
 on Amazon for a much better price and only $4 shipping from the U.S. vendors:

greed!  I wouldn't pay $65 for it, and in French, unless you are fluent.  But 
heaper, and in English, it might be worth it.  This is the book, in English, we 
sed in my very first history of costume class in college back in 1972, and the 
rofessor chose it because it is chock full of illustrations.  It has 
hronological chapters from ancient times to the 1950s and 60s, and then 
hapters on a variety of topics like hairstyles, sleeves, stockings and 
ootwear, and liturgical vestments.
I still refer to it sometimes, mostly as a jumping off point.  Some of the 
llustrations, I have discovered, are mis-attributed.  Not sure how common that 
s throughout the book, as my area of expertise is very narrow.  As someone else 
ointed out, some of the illustrations are probably hard to find anywhere else.  
or example, there is a great painting by Anton Machek of a woman in an early 
9th century dress that looks like printed blue and white fabric, from a museum 
n Prague.
Ann Wass 


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ent: Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:08 pm
ubject: Re: [h-cost] Book review

I would say it is definately worth getting, but not at that price!  It was also 
blished in English as The Pictorial Encyclopedia of Fashion and you can find 
 on Amazon for a much better price and only $4 shipping from the U.S. vendors:
ttp://www.amazon.com/PICTORIAL-ENCYCLOPEDIA-FASHION-Ludmila-Kybalova/dp/B000HJVBWU/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293764244&sr=1-3
t has a great collection of black and white pictures, some of which are 
scure.  No re-drawings, only the actual art!
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[annbwass]

I would say it is definately worth getting, but not at that price!  It was also 
ublished in English as The Pictorial Encyclopedia of Fashion and you can find 
t on Amazon for a much better price and only $4 shipping from the U.S. vendors:


Agreed!  I wouldn't pay $65 for it, and in French, unless you are fluent.  But 
cheaper, and in English, it might be worth it.  This is the book, in English, 
we used in my very first history of costume class in college back in 1972, and 
the professor chose it because it is chock full of illustrations.  It has 
chronological chapters from ancient times to the 1950s and 60s, and then 
chapters on a variety of topics like hairstyles, sleeves, stockings and 
footwear, and liturgical vestments.

I still refer to it sometimes, mostly as a jumping off point.  Some of the 
illustrations, I have discovered, are mis-attributed.  Not sure how common that 
is throughout the book, as my area of expertise is very narrow.  As someone 
else pointed out, some of the illustrations are probably hard to find anywhere 
else.  For example, there is a great painting by Anton Machek of a woman in an 
early 19th century dress that looks like printed blue and white fabric, from a 
museum in Prague.

Ann Wass 





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From: Leah Janette 
To: Historical Costume 
Sent: Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Book review



I would say it is definately worth getting, but not at that price!  It was also 
ublished in English as The Pictorial Encyclopedia of Fashion and you can find 
t on Amazon for a much better price and only $4 shipping from the U.S. vendors:

ttp://www.amazon.com/PICTORIAL-ENCYCLOPEDIA-FASHION-Ludmila-Kybalova/dp/B000HJVBWU/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293764244&sr=1-3

t has a great collection of black and white pictures, some of which are 
bscure.  No re-drawings, only the actual art!

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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[Leah Janette]

I would say it is definately worth getting, but not at that price!  It was also 
published in English as The Pictorial Encyclopedia of Fashion and you can find 
it on Amazon for a much better price and only $4 shipping from the U.S. vendors:
 
http://www.amazon.com/PICTORIAL-ENCYCLOPEDIA-FASHION-Ludmila-Kybalova/dp/B000HJVBWU/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1293764244&sr=1-3
 
It has a great collection of black and white pictures, some of which are 
obscure.  No re-drawings, only the actual art!
 
Janet 
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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[Alexandria Doyle]

The $15 is the shipping cost, off to the right is the price...$50.

alex
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On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Joan Jurancich  wrote:
> At 06:01 PM 12/30/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> I've been asked about this book, but not haven't seen it before, I
>> couldn't offer much.  Has anyone seen this one?  Good Bad?
>>
>>
>> http://www.etsy.com/listing/39296868/encyclopedie-illustree-du-costume-et-de
>>
>> alex
>> So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…
>
> I must say that for $15 I'd take a chance on it.
>
>
> Joan Jurancich
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Re: [h-cost] Book review

[Joan Jurancich]

At 06:01 PM 12/30/2010, you wrote:

I've been asked about this book, but not haven't seen it before, I
couldn't offer much.  Has anyone seen this one?  Good Bad?

http://www.etsy.com/listing/39296868/encyclopedie-illustree-du-costume-et-de

alex
So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with…


I must say that for $15 I'd take a chance on it.


Joan Jurancich
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[Alexandria Doyle]

I've been asked about this book, but not haven't seen it before, I
couldn't offer much.  Has anyone seen this one?  Good Bad?

http://www.etsy.com/listing/39296868/encyclopedie-illustree-du-costume-et-de

alex
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Re: [h-cost] Book, Unravelling Textiles?

[Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A.]

Hey, me too.  If you find one, please post it.


On 10/14/10 8:56 AM, "mhprobe...@gmail.com"  wrote:

Unravelling Textiles: A Handbook for the Preservation of Textile
Collections, Foekje Boersma

Can anyone comment on this book? I'm looking for one on this subject,
but I'd like one that is focused on practical application of
techniques.

I'm not looking for too-basic (avoid light, humidity, temperature
extremes) or ones that sound like grad school papers (contextualize,
social construct, stakeholder, empower, dialectic). I need one that
will inform me how/if to clean and repair or stabilize against further
damage.

thanks!
Melissa Roberts
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[h-cost] Book, Unravelling Textiles?

[mhprobe...@gmail.com]

Unravelling Textiles: A Handbook for the Preservation of Textile
Collections, Foekje Boersma

Can anyone comment on this book? I'm looking for one on this subject,
but I'd like one that is focused on practical application of
techniques.

I'm not looking for too-basic (avoid light, humidity, temperature
extremes) or ones that sound like grad school papers (contextualize,
social construct, stakeholder, empower, dialectic). I need one that
will inform me how/if to clean and repair or stabilize against further
damage.

thanks!
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Re: [h-cost] book sharing, was: copyright law thing...

[Lavolta Press]

Or you could get on Skype and hold it up to your web cam for your
long-distance friend to see. That way someone can look without making a
copy for them.



This, however, is falling victim to the "million examples" runaround. 
Someone asserts their desires or needs are more important than the need 
of the creator of the work to get paid (and also all the other people 
involved in creating, producing, and marketing a work).  They produce an 
example. You counter it by explaining some workaround. Then they produce 
another example. You counter that. They produce another example. And on, 
and on, and on.


When this is done, it is not a person with any sincere desire to do 
something without violating copyright law. It's just a runaround 
intended to wear out people seriously trying to explain. And as I've 
mentioned, it's usually the exact same people doing the same runarounds 
in every discussion.


The bottom line is, the desire or need of someone to use someone else's 
work does not make them the most important person on the planet for whom 
special exemptions should be made.


Fran

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Re: [h-cost] book sharing, was: copyright law thing...

[Lavolta Press]

Or you could get on Skype and hold it up to your web cam for your
long-distance friend to see. That way someone can look without making a
copy for them.



Or you can just give them the title and explain why you think it's such 
a good book, and let them look up reviews and bookstores on the net.


Fran
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Re: [h-cost] book sharing, was: copyright law thing...

[Carol Kocian]

On May 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Sharon Collier wrote:


I see the internet/emails/ h-costume list as a group of friends.


 Whenever I see something about an e-mail list being a group of  
friends, I imagine sending a party invitation to the entire list...  
No, not quite.  :-)  I see many groups with common interests, some  
members of which are friends, and some are not.


Someone says,"I have a book with an interesting picture." Someone  
else wants to borrow the book to look at the picture.


 Would you loan the book to your local friend? Would you drop it  
in the mail to someone you've never met, with the understanding they  
would mail it back when finished with it?


If we were in the same town, the other person could just come to my  
house and look at the book, but since we live hundreds or thousands  
of miles apart, we scan the relevant picture and send to our friend  
to look at.


 Or you could get on Skype and hold it up to your web cam for  
your long-distance friend to see. That way someone can look without  
making a copy for them.


 -Carol

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[h-cost] book on chopines

[Leah Janette]

Michael Shamansky's list has popped out another interesting title, to be 
released in February:

 

Title: On A Pedestal: From Renaissance Chopines to Baroque Heels
Author: Semmelhack, Elizabeth


http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=105190&custno=12840

 

Janet
  
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Re: [h-cost] Book recommendation

[Sharon Collier]

Oh, and it cost $115. 
Sharon

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Sharon Collier
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:52 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: [h-cost] Book recommendation

I think it was on this list that someone recommended a re-issue of a history
of costume book, but I can't find the email. I don't remember the title, but
in the body of the email, the person said, "...this is the book it always
should have been," or something like that. If it was here, could someone
please re-send to me? 
Thanks, Sharon C.
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[h-cost] Book recommendation

[Sharon Collier]

I think it was on this list that someone recommended a re-issue of a history
of costume book, but I can't find the email. I don't remember the title, but
in the body of the email, the person said, "...this is the book it always
should have been," or something like that. If it was here, could someone
please re-send to me? 
Thanks, Sharon C.
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[h-cost] Book Alert

[Leah Janette]

I just got a notice that the V&A is coming out with several new medieval titles 
in November (hopefully).  Two that should be of interest to this list are:

Fashion and Armour in Renaissance Europe : Proud Looks and Brave Attire
http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=101502&custno=12619

 

and

Medieval Jewellery in Europe 1100-1500
http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=101500&custno=12619

 

Janet
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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail

[Catherine Olanich Raymond]

On Sunday 10 May 2009 3:09:31 am Kim Baird wrote:
> The paperback has no color photos. I did locate the 1975 hard cover edition
> at used bookstores on line for around $25.

I didn't realize that there was a hardback edition, let alone that it had 
photos!  I should look for a copy.  Thanks.

--
Cathy Raymond 

"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed." --Sean 
O'Casey


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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail

[Kim Baird]

 
The paperback has no color photos. I did locate the 1975 hard cover edition
at used bookstores on line for around $25.

Kim
Nancy Bradfield's _Costume in
> Detail 1730-1930_ - but she doesn't show photographs, it's all line 
> drawings.

The first edition hardback has photos in color.  I own the second edition
hardback, which has no photos but more costume drawings.
Haven't looked in the paperback edition.

--
Carolyn Kayta Barrows
--
Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God.
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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion in detail

[Käthe Barrows]

Nancy Bradfield's _Costume in
> Detail 1730-1930_ - but she doesn't show photographs, it's all line
> drawings.

The first edition hardback has photos in color.  I own the second
edition hardback, which has no photos but more costume drawings.
Haven't looked in the paperback edition.

-- 
Carolyn Kayta Barrows
--
Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God.
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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail

[Kathleen Hanrahan]

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Vicki,

vbe...@gower.net wrote:
> 
> Have you seen the Cornell University CD of 19th century American
dresses?
> It was produced in 2001, so I'm not sure if it is still available.
> http://www.news.cornell.edu/chronicle/01/6.28.01/McMurray-CD-ROM.htm

Thanks for the hint. I went to the link (above), found an e-mail
address, and asked about the CD. It is still available. Below is the
information.

Karen Steffy wrote:
> It's still available.
>
> It's $25. Please send a check, made out to Cornell University, to the
> address below.
>
> Karen
>
> ~~
> Karen Steffy
>
> Administrative Assistant,
> Graduate Seminar Series
> Dept. of Fiber Science and Apparel Design
> 206 MVR Hall, Cornell University
> Ithaca, NY 14850 USA
> Telephone: (607) 255-8605, Fax: (607) 255-1093

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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail

[vbetts]

>> I've just got some bonus money and I'm planning on spending some of it
> on
>> books. I'm looking for a book that will show me internal construction
>> details of Victorian era clothing preferably using detailed photos.

Have you seen the Cornell University CD of 19th century American dresses? 
It was produced in 2001, so I'm not sure if it is still available.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/chronicle/01/6.28.01/McMurray-CD-ROM.html
I just printed off from my CD the decades that I wanted and stuck them in
a notebook for handier reference.

Vicki Betts

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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion in detail

[Sunshine . K . Buchler]

> I've just got some bonus money and I'm planning on spending some of it 
on
> books. I'm looking for a book that will show me internal construction
> details of Victorian era clothing preferably using detailed photos. 
Looking
> on Amazon I found Nineteenth Century Fashion in Detail by Lucy Johnston, 
so
> for those who have a copy does it include these sort of details (or it 
is
> external decorative details like embroidery or ruching). 

There are very few books that have internal construction details. The best 
I've found (besides Janet Arnold's work) is Nancy Bradfield's _Costume in 
Detail 1730-1930_ - but she doesn't show photographs, it's all line 
drawings.

Another place you could look is Your Wardrobe Unlocked: 
http://yourwardrobeunlockd.com/ which is a subscription website. There is 
a series of photographic essays there on the construction of women's 
clothing circa 1865-ish. Of course, I'm not unbiased about them, as I 
wrote 'em ;-) The final one covering ball gown bodices will be out next 
month.

I started my vintage collection because I couldn't find detailed 
construction information already published. *sigh* Ebay is a great source 
for acquiring your very own Victorian construction example.

Best of luck!
-sunny

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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail

[Käthe Barrows]

Worth whatever they're charging for it.  I live by my copy.

For interior details, check out Costume in Detail: 1730-1930 (Paperback) by
> Nancy Bradfield
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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion indetail

[Kim Baird]

For interior details, check out Costume in Detail: 1730-1930 (Paperback) by
Nancy Bradfield 
Amazon has it.

Kim

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:30 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion
indetail

Hi everyone,
I've just got some bonus money and I'm planning on spending some of it on
books. I'm looking for a book that will show me internal construction
details of Victorian era clothing preferably using detailed photos. Looking
on Amazon I found Nineteenth Century Fashion in Detail by Lucy Johnston, so
for those who have a copy does it include these sort of details (or it is
external decorative details like embroidery or ruching). My final question
is Amazon UK has two books listed one that's in print
http://tinyurl.com/oobv6x and one that's out of print
http://tinyurl.com/oapatu Does anyone know if there are any differences
between the editions apart from the cover?
Thanks
Elizabeth
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Canberra, Australia
http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/

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Re: [h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion in detail

[Catherine Olanich Raymond]

On Thursday 07 May 2009 10:29:45 pm Elizabeth Walpole wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I've just got some bonus money and I'm planning on spending some of it on
> books. I'm looking for a book that will show me internal construction
> details of Victorian era clothing preferably using detailed photos. Looking
> on Amazon I found Nineteenth Century Fashion in Detail by Lucy Johnston, so
> for those who have a copy does it include these sort of details (or it is
> external decorative details like embroidery or ruching). 

All of the photos are of external details, such as ruching.  However, there 
are no photos of the entire garment (though there are line sketches) and no 
photos showing construction.


--
Cathy Raymond 

"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed." --Sean 
O'Casey


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[h-cost] Book review requested - Nineteenth Century Fashion in detail

[Elizabeth Walpole]

Hi everyone,
I've just got some bonus money and I'm planning on spending some of it on
books. I'm looking for a book that will show me internal construction
details of Victorian era clothing preferably using detailed photos. Looking
on Amazon I found Nineteenth Century Fashion in Detail by Lucy Johnston, so
for those who have a copy does it include these sort of details (or it is
external decorative details like embroidery or ruching). My final question
is Amazon UK has two books listed one that's in print
http://tinyurl.com/oobv6x and one that's out of print
http://tinyurl.com/oapatu Does anyone know if there are any differences
between the editions apart from the cover?
Thanks
Elizabeth
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Canberra, Australia 
http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/

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[h-cost] Book review in PieceWork magazine

[Lavolta Press]

_PieceWork_ magazine just emailed to say that my book _The Lady's 
Stratagem: A Repository of 1820s Directions for the Toilet, 
Mantua-Making, Stay-Making, Millinery & Etiquette_ is reviewed in the 
March/April 2009 issue. They said they will send us a copy of the 
magazine but that copies are likely to be sent to subscribers earlier. 
So if anyone sees the review, please let me know!


Fran
Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming
http://www.lavoltapress.com
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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[Ailith]

Mine shipped Tuesday and the extra one that I ordered for a surprise gift was 
shipped today. Hopefully it will make it to Texas while I'm still visiting her. 
:-)

Kate
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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[sjpaterson]

That is unfortunate, Jane, we will be in London, too but in March 2009; a visit 
with family, including my failing god father (also second cousin) beats out a 
Janet Arnold Conference. Look out V& A etc...

Bess

- Original Message -

> My trip ends in London with friends, so I'm having it sent there.  
> Woot! Free shipping within the UK!
>
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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[Chris Laning]

I was mildly amused when I got my e-mail notice a day or two ago. Usually I buy 
things from Amazon USA (since that's where I live) and the notice says "Your 
Amazon order has shipped."

This notice (from Amazon UK) instead said that it had been "dispatched"!!

Wonder if that means it will arrive faster? 


0  Chris Laning
|  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[00217146]

Quoting Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


At 15:18 31/10/2008, you wrote:
I just got my email from Amazon that my book is on its way!!   
Greetings from Amazon.co.uk, We thought you would like to know that  
 the following item has been sent to:  using Royal Mail.   
Patterns of Fashion 4: The...   £15.00  Happy Happy!! ♫


Finally mine is on its way too - what do you bet it arrives after we
leave for Florence?


My trip ends in London with friends, so I'm having it sent there.  
Woot! Free shipping within the UK!


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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[Maggie]

Me too me too! At least, the one I ordered in May is shipping today. I
ordered a second one for Regina, but not till a while later, and the email
doesn't say it's shipping 2 copies, just 1. So I guess they just go in order
of order, which makes sense.

MaggiRos

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Chiara Francesca <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just got my email from Amazon that my book is on its way!!
>
> Greetings from Amazon.co.uk,
>
> We thought you would like to know that the following item has been sent
> to:
>
> 
>
> using Royal Mail.
>
> Patterns of Fashion 4: The...   £15.00
>
> Happy Happy!!
> ♫
> Chiara Francesca
>
>
>
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-- 
Maggie Secara
~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603
ISBN 978-0-9818401-0-9
Available at http://elizabethan.org/compendium/paperback.html or your
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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[CBellfleur]

Hubby recently ordered mine for my birthday.  He just checked and it  won't 
be shipped until Nov. 14!   Are they doing it in the order  received?  
 
Catherine 
 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2008 11:22:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

At 15:18  31/10/2008, you wrote:
>I just got my email from Amazon that my book is  
>on its way!! Greetings from Amazon.co.uk, We 
>thought you would  like to know that the 
>following item has been sent to:  using  
>Royal Mail. Patterns of Fashion 4: 
>The...£15.00  Happy Happy!! ♫ Chiara 
>Francesca  
>___ 

Finally mine  is on its way too - what do you bet 
it arrives after we leave for  Florence?

Suzi 



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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[Chiara Francesca]

Yep, that is a given. They will arrive while you all are in Florence. I would 
much rather be with you all though than here reading it.

Sad thing about it, I just got a job. Had I gotten it just 3 weeks ago I could 
go with you all, air fare just dropped again!

♫
Chiara Francesca


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:22 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!
> 
> At 15:18 31/10/2008, you wrote:
> >I just got my email from Amazon that my book is
> >on its way!! Greetings from Amazon.co.uk, We
> >thought you would like to know that the
> >following item has been sent to:  using
> >Royal Mail. Patterns of Fashion 4:
> >The...   £15.00  Happy Happy!! ♫ Chiara
> >Francesca
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> Finally mine is on its way too - what do you bet
> it arrives after we leave for Florence?
> 
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Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[Suzi Clarke]

At 15:18 31/10/2008, you wrote:
I just got my email from Amazon that my book is 
on its way!! Greetings from Amazon.co.uk, We 
thought you would like to know that the 
following item has been sent to:  using 
Royal Mail. Patterns of Fashion 4: 
The...   £15.00  Happy Happy!! ♫ Chiara 
Francesca 
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Finally mine is on its way too - what do you bet 
it arrives after we leave for Florence?


Suzi 


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[h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

[Chiara Francesca]

I just got my email from Amazon that my book is on its way!!

Greetings from Amazon.co.uk,

We thought you would like to know that the following item has been sent
to:



using Royal Mail.

Patterns of Fashion 4: The...   £15.00  

Happy Happy!!
♫
Chiara Francesca



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Re: [h-cost] book: The Mercery Of London

[Robin Netherton]

Kimiko Small wrote:


Has anyone here read the book "The Mercery Of London: Trade, Goods And People, 
1130-1578" by Anne F. Sutton?


I reviewed it for volume 3 of Medieval Clothing and Textiles. It's a large, 
detailed history of the people of London who made and sold linen and silk 
goods and small dress accessories. If you're looking for detail on the actual 
costume items, you'll have to dig to find the useful nuggets of information, 
as the book focuses primarily on the political, economic, and legal roles of 
the Mercer's Guild, and spends a lot of time discussing things like the 
personal histories of influential members and arguments over trade territories.


If you want to read my review and don't have easy access to it, contact me 
directly.


--Robin
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[h-cost] book: The Mercery Of London

[Kimiko Small]

Hello all,

Has anyone here read the book "The Mercery Of London: Trade, Goods And People, 
1130-1578" by Anne F. Sutton?

I just saw the book in a different book search, and realized I hadn't seen the 
title before, and before I plunk down the $160, or try to ILL it, I was 
wondering if it was worthy?

Anyone?

Kimiko





  
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[h-cost] Book Sale

[Penny Ladnier]

I am having a book sale from our in-house library collection.  You can find the 
book listing at: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/BOOKS_TO_SELL.htm .   This 
list is changing daily, so please check the listing often.  Daily, I am adding 
books and deleting them from the list as they sell.  I have already had three 
people want the same book.  In cases like that, I will sell to the person who 
emails me first.

If you would like to purchase any of the books, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
 Shipping is the actual cost to your home or business.   When you email me, 
make sure to include your name, mailing address, and a phone number if located 
in the U.S.  Please make sure to copy and paste the title of the book and 
include it in your email. Terms of sale are located at the bottom of the book 
list webpage.

Someone asked today if I was going out of business.  I am staying in business, 
as I have since 1996.  I'm not retiring for several more years.   I have wanted 
to do this type of sale for several summers.  Now seems to be a good time to 
have the sale.  

I hope you enjoy the sale! 
Penny Ladnier,
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
www.costumelibrary.com
www.costumeclassroom.com
www.costumeslideshows.com
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[h-cost] book sale

[Land of Oz]

http://store.doverpublications.com/index.html

Dover books is having a bargain bin sale. While browsing the sale titles, I 
noticed several books that might apply to recent H-Costume topics. One book 
written by a black butler in the Antebellum south, another on Military uniforms 
of the past and one on 18th century metal ornaments. 

Just FYI.  I don't get commission and I can't vouch for the usefulness of the 
individual titles, but it's worth a quick search if there is something you've 
been looking for.

I wanted some leather working books, but none of them are in the sale.  I'm 
going to go back and look for some books on knights and their horses' 
appointments.

Denise
Iowa
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Lavolta Press]

Sure, if you count every aspect of it, every historic era, various 
languages, anthologies of periodicals, etc.

Fan

Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> *My eyes glued to the screen*
> If I ever dreamed about something, it was to own so many costume books. I'd 
> never think there were 5 000 books on costuming! 
> I'm sure if I ever got to your library, I would be the happiest person on the 
> earth:-D  Unhappily, a student as I am can have only few of such 
> books...Well, who knows how many books will I have in 30 years? :-D
> 
> Zuzana
> 
> Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a kind offer, but hard on 
> Americans who do not read the language 
> the books are in. However, there are many similar English and American 
> books. They are often books that were also published in other languages 
> and countries, because Victorian and Edwardian pattern books were often 
> translated and published, with or without attribution to the original 
> author. I have many such books in my personal library. I even once 
> bought a book in Armenian from a Turkish seller on eBay, because I did 
> not have any books in Armenian in my pattern book collection and 
> expected all kinds of interesting designs. In fact, it turned out to be 
> a plagiarism of a French manual I already owned.
> 
> Such books of tailor's drafting patterns are available on the used book 
> market, on eBay, in American public and college libraries, etc. I've 
> collected them for over 30 years.  I've never counted them, but I have 
> at least some hundreds, as I own about 5,000 books on costuming.
> 
> Fran
> Lavolta Press
> http://www.lavoltapress.com
> 
> 
> 
> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I'm sending this to all in case someone else might be interested:
>>
>> I finally got to copy some pages for you to see how approximately the books 
>> look, I found 4 useful ones, one from 1888, one from 1903, another from the 
>> beginning of the 20th century, but of an unknown exact date (1905-1910?), 
>> and one from 1911.
>> The 1900s books will probably produce patterns for the S-curve shape, 
>> whereas the 1888 book will probably still keep to the victorian (larger 
>> belly etc) shape. So you have to decide which book would be the best for you.
>>
>> All books provide slopers and their modifications to various sorts of 
>> dresses and bodices,  the 1911 book discusses quite nicely the various body 
>> shapes (large bust, hips etc) and gives for each one a different sloper. All 
>> books also contain information on skirts, sleeves and some other garments.
>>
>> I haven't studied them in detail, just glanced through, but I'd suggest the 
>> 1888 one for the earlier periods and the 1911 one for the later; the 19?? 
>> book is also looking good and maybe simpler then the 1911 (easier to follow).
>>
>> Here you can upload a pdf file with some pages:
>>
>> http://www.2shared.com/file/3190351/d47aeee4/antique_books.html
>>
>> just click on "Save file to your PC: click here" on 
>> the bottom. The file's too big to put on my small site.
>>
>> Copying one A4 page costs about $0,16. The books usually have about 150-200 
>> pages. I could then send the copies to you by mail (could be expensive) or 
>> scan them - that would cost less, as I would keep the physical copies, which 
>> would be unfair - so we would kind of share, as I am also planning to have 
>> the books copied for myself.
>>
>> I repeat that copying the books for study reasons in the library is 
>> officially allowed.  
>>
>> So, if you or someone else's interested, tell me and we'll discuss the 
>> details.
>>
>> Zuzana
>>
>>
>> Deredere Galbraith  wrote: I wish I knew that just a few day's earlier...
>> I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
>> What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
>> It almost felt like a theme park.
>> But it is very beautiful.
>> And way too much to see for just two days.
>>
>> German is not a problem for me.
>> I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
>> I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.
>>
>> Deredere
>>
>>
>> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>>> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds 
>>> some old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th 
>>> century, one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting 
>>> manuals. It's some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I 
>>> don't really remember the dates these books were from and the language 
>>> (though I think it was always German). But if you were interested, I could 
>>> go and have a look. They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that 
>>> the copyright is a big deal here, because the books have no living author 
>>> any more (what a surprise) and all photocopies are to be used for study and 
>>> non-commercial use.
>>>
>>> Zuzana
>>>
>>>  __
>>> Do You Yahoo!?
>>> Tired of

Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Lavolta Press]

Sure, if you count every aspect of it, every historic era, various 
languages, anthologies of periodicals, etc.

Fan

Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> *My eyes glued to the screen*
> If I ever dreamed about something, it was to own so many costume books. I'd 
> never think there were 5 000 books on costuming! 
> I'm sure if I ever got to your library, I would be the happiest person on the 
> earth:-D  Unhappily, a student as I am can have only few of such 
> books...Well, who knows how many books will I have in 30 years? :-D
> 
> Zuzana
> 
> Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a kind offer, but hard on 
> Americans who do not read the language 
> the books are in. However, there are many similar English and American 
> books. They are often books that were also published in other languages 
> and countries, because Victorian and Edwardian pattern books were often 
> translated and published, with or without attribution to the original 
> author. I have many such books in my personal library. I even once 
> bought a book in Armenian from a Turkish seller on eBay, because I did 
> not have any books in Armenian in my pattern book collection and 
> expected all kinds of interesting designs. In fact, it turned out to be 
> a plagiarism of a French manual I already owned.
> 
> Such books of tailor's drafting patterns are available on the used book 
> market, on eBay, in American public and college libraries, etc. I've 
> collected them for over 30 years.  I've never counted them, but I have 
> at least some hundreds, as I own about 5,000 books on costuming.
> 
> Fran
> Lavolta Press
> http://www.lavoltapress.com
> 
> 
> 
> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I'm sending this to all in case someone else might be interested:
>>
>> I finally got to copy some pages for you to see how approximately the books 
>> look, I found 4 useful ones, one from 1888, one from 1903, another from the 
>> beginning of the 20th century, but of an unknown exact date (1905-1910?), 
>> and one from 1911.
>> The 1900s books will probably produce patterns for the S-curve shape, 
>> whereas the 1888 book will probably still keep to the victorian (larger 
>> belly etc) shape. So you have to decide which book would be the best for you.
>>
>> All books provide slopers and their modifications to various sorts of 
>> dresses and bodices,  the 1911 book discusses quite nicely the various body 
>> shapes (large bust, hips etc) and gives for each one a different sloper. All 
>> books also contain information on skirts, sleeves and some other garments.
>>
>> I haven't studied them in detail, just glanced through, but I'd suggest the 
>> 1888 one for the earlier periods and the 1911 one for the later; the 19?? 
>> book is also looking good and maybe simpler then the 1911 (easier to follow).
>>
>> Here you can upload a pdf file with some pages:
>>
>> http://www.2shared.com/file/3190351/d47aeee4/antique_books.html
>>
>> just click on "Save file to your PC: click here" on 
>> the bottom. The file's too big to put on my small site.
>>
>> Copying one A4 page costs about $0,16. The books usually have about 150-200 
>> pages. I could then send the copies to you by mail (could be expensive) or 
>> scan them - that would cost less, as I would keep the physical copies, which 
>> would be unfair - so we would kind of share, as I am also planning to have 
>> the books copied for myself.
>>
>> I repeat that copying the books for study reasons in the library is 
>> officially allowed.  
>>
>> So, if you or someone else's interested, tell me and we'll discuss the 
>> details.
>>
>> Zuzana
>>
>>
>> Deredere Galbraith  wrote: I wish I knew that just a few day's earlier...
>> I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
>> What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
>> It almost felt like a theme park.
>> But it is very beautiful.
>> And way too much to see for just two days.
>>
>> German is not a problem for me.
>> I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
>> I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.
>>
>> Deredere
>>
>>
>> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>>> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds 
>>> some old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th 
>>> century, one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting 
>>> manuals. It's some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I 
>>> don't really remember the dates these books were from and the language 
>>> (though I think it was always German). But if you were interested, I could 
>>> go and have a look. They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that 
>>> the copyright is a big deal here, because the books have no living author 
>>> any more (what a surprise) and all photocopies are to be used for study and 
>>> non-commercial use.
>>>
>>> Zuzana
>>>
>>>  __
>>> Do You Yahoo!?
>>> Tired of

Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

*My eyes glued to the screen*
If I ever dreamed about something, it was to own so many costume books. I'd 
never think there were 5 000 books on costuming! 
I'm sure if I ever got to your library, I would be the happiest person on the 
earth:-D  Unhappily, a student as I am can have only few of such books...Well, 
who knows how many books will I have in 30 years? :-D

Zuzana

Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a kind offer, but hard on 
Americans who do not read the language 
the books are in. However, there are many similar English and American 
books. They are often books that were also published in other languages 
and countries, because Victorian and Edwardian pattern books were often 
translated and published, with or without attribution to the original 
author. I have many such books in my personal library. I even once 
bought a book in Armenian from a Turkish seller on eBay, because I did 
not have any books in Armenian in my pattern book collection and 
expected all kinds of interesting designs. In fact, it turned out to be 
a plagiarism of a French manual I already owned.

Such books of tailor's drafting patterns are available on the used book 
market, on eBay, in American public and college libraries, etc. I've 
collected them for over 30 years.  I've never counted them, but I have 
at least some hundreds, as I own about 5,000 books on costuming.

Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com



Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm sending this to all in case someone else might be interested:
> 
> I finally got to copy some pages for you to see how approximately the books 
> look, I found 4 useful ones, one from 1888, one from 1903, another from the 
> beginning of the 20th century, but of an unknown exact date (1905-1910?), and 
> one from 1911.
> The 1900s books will probably produce patterns for the S-curve shape, whereas 
> the 1888 book will probably still keep to the victorian (larger belly etc) 
> shape. So you have to decide which book would be the best for you.
> 
> All books provide slopers and their modifications to various sorts of dresses 
> and bodices,  the 1911 book discusses quite nicely the various body shapes 
> (large bust, hips etc) and gives for each one a different sloper. All books 
> also contain information on skirts, sleeves and some other garments.
> 
> I haven't studied them in detail, just glanced through, but I'd suggest the 
> 1888 one for the earlier periods and the 1911 one for the later; the 19?? 
> book is also looking good and maybe simpler then the 1911 (easier to follow).
> 
> Here you can upload a pdf file with some pages:
> 
> http://www.2shared.com/file/3190351/d47aeee4/antique_books.html
> 
> just click on "Save file to your PC: click here" on 
> the bottom. The file's too big to put on my small site.
> 
> Copying one A4 page costs about $0,16. The books usually have about 150-200 
> pages. I could then send the copies to you by mail (could be expensive) or 
> scan them - that would cost less, as I would keep the physical copies, which 
> would be unfair - so we would kind of share, as I am also planning to have 
> the books copied for myself.
> 
> I repeat that copying the books for study reasons in the library is 
> officially allowed.  
> 
> So, if you or someone else's interested, tell me and we'll discuss the 
> details.
> 
> Zuzana
> 
> 
> Deredere Galbraith  wrote: I wish I knew that just a few day's earlier...
> I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
> What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
> It almost felt like a theme park.
> But it is very beautiful.
> And way too much to see for just two days.
> 
> German is not a problem for me.
> I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
> I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.
> 
> Deredere
> 
> 
> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds 
>> some old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th 
>> century, one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting 
>> manuals. It's some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I 
>> don't really remember the dates these books were from and the language 
>> (though I think it was always German). But if you were interested, I could 
>> go and have a look. They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that 
>> the copyright is a big deal here, because the books have no living author 
>> any more (what a surprise) and all photocopies are to be used for study and 
>> non-commercial use.
>>
>> Zuzana
>>
>>  __
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
>> http://mail.yahoo.com 
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> 
> 

Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Lavolta Press]

It's a kind offer, but hard on Americans who do not read the language 
the books are in. However, there are many similar English and American 
books. They are often books that were also published in other languages 
and countries, because Victorian and Edwardian pattern books were often 
translated and published, with or without attribution to the original 
author. I have many such books in my personal library. I even once 
bought a book in Armenian from a Turkish seller on eBay, because I did 
not have any books in Armenian in my pattern book collection and 
expected all kinds of interesting designs. In fact, it turned out to be 
a plagiarism of a French manual I already owned.

Such books of tailor's drafting patterns are available on the used book 
market, on eBay, in American public and college libraries, etc. I've 
collected them for over 30 years.  I've never counted them, but I have 
at least some hundreds, as I own about 5,000 books on costuming.

Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com



Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm sending this to all in case someone else might be interested:
> 
> I finally got to copy some pages for you to see how approximately the books 
> look, I found 4 useful ones, one from 1888, one from 1903, another from the 
> beginning of the 20th century, but of an unknown exact date (1905-1910?), and 
> one from 1911.
> The 1900s books will probably produce patterns for the S-curve shape, whereas 
> the 1888 book will probably still keep to the victorian (larger belly etc) 
> shape. So you have to decide which book would be the best for you.
> 
> All books provide slopers and their modifications to various sorts of dresses 
> and bodices,  the 1911 book discusses quite nicely the various body shapes 
> (large bust, hips etc) and gives for each one a different sloper. All books 
> also contain information on skirts, sleeves and some other garments.
> 
> I haven't studied them in detail, just glanced through, but I'd suggest the 
> 1888 one for the earlier periods and the 1911 one for the later; the 19?? 
> book is also looking good and maybe simpler then the 1911 (easier to follow).
> 
> Here you can upload a pdf file with some pages:
> 
> http://www.2shared.com/file/3190351/d47aeee4/antique_books.html
> 
> just click on "Save file to your PC: click here" on 
> the bottom. The file's too big to put on my small site.
> 
> Copying one A4 page costs about $0,16. The books usually have about 150-200 
> pages. I could then send the copies to you by mail (could be expensive) or 
> scan them - that would cost less, as I would keep the physical copies, which 
> would be unfair - so we would kind of share, as I am also planning to have 
> the books copied for myself.
> 
> I repeat that copying the books for study reasons in the library is 
> officially allowed.  
> 
> So, if you or someone else's interested, tell me and we'll discuss the 
> details.
> 
> Zuzana
> 
> 
> Deredere Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish I knew that just a few 
> day's earlier...
> I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
> What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
> It almost felt like a theme park.
> But it is very beautiful.
> And way too much to see for just two days.
> 
> German is not a problem for me.
> I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
> I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.
> 
> Deredere
> 
> 
> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds 
>> some old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th 
>> century, one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting 
>> manuals. It's some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I 
>> don't really remember the dates these books were from and the language 
>> (though I think it was always German). But if you were interested, I could 
>> go and have a look. They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that 
>> the copyright is a big deal here, because the books have no living author 
>> any more (what a surprise) and all photocopies are to be used for study and 
>> non-commercial use.
>>
>> Zuzana
>>
>>  __
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
>> http://mail.yahoo.com 
>> ___
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Lavolta Press]

It's a kind offer, but hard on Americans who do not read the language 
the books are in. However, there are many similar English and American 
books. They are often books that were also published in other languages 
and countries, because Victorian and Edwardian pattern books were often 
translated and published, with or without attribution to the original 
author. I have many such books in my personal library. I even once 
bought a book in Armenian from a Turkish seller on eBay, because I did 
not have any books in Armenian in my pattern book collection and 
expected all kinds of interesting designs. In fact, it turned out to be 
a plagiarism of a French manual I already owned.

Such books of tailor's drafting patterns are available on the used book 
market, on eBay, in American public and college libraries, etc. I've 
collected them for over 30 years.  I've never counted them, but I have 
at least some hundreds, as I own about 5,000 books on costuming.

Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com



Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm sending this to all in case someone else might be interested:
> 
> I finally got to copy some pages for you to see how approximately the books 
> look, I found 4 useful ones, one from 1888, one from 1903, another from the 
> beginning of the 20th century, but of an unknown exact date (1905-1910?), and 
> one from 1911.
> The 1900s books will probably produce patterns for the S-curve shape, whereas 
> the 1888 book will probably still keep to the victorian (larger belly etc) 
> shape. So you have to decide which book would be the best for you.
> 
> All books provide slopers and their modifications to various sorts of dresses 
> and bodices,  the 1911 book discusses quite nicely the various body shapes 
> (large bust, hips etc) and gives for each one a different sloper. All books 
> also contain information on skirts, sleeves and some other garments.
> 
> I haven't studied them in detail, just glanced through, but I'd suggest the 
> 1888 one for the earlier periods and the 1911 one for the later; the 19?? 
> book is also looking good and maybe simpler then the 1911 (easier to follow).
> 
> Here you can upload a pdf file with some pages:
> 
> http://www.2shared.com/file/3190351/d47aeee4/antique_books.html
> 
> just click on "Save file to your PC: click here" on 
> the bottom. The file's too big to put on my small site.
> 
> Copying one A4 page costs about $0,16. The books usually have about 150-200 
> pages. I could then send the copies to you by mail (could be expensive) or 
> scan them - that would cost less, as I would keep the physical copies, which 
> would be unfair - so we would kind of share, as I am also planning to have 
> the books copied for myself.
> 
> I repeat that copying the books for study reasons in the library is 
> officially allowed.  
> 
> So, if you or someone else's interested, tell me and we'll discuss the 
> details.
> 
> Zuzana
> 
> 
> Deredere Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish I knew that just a few 
> day's earlier...
> I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
> What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
> It almost felt like a theme park.
> But it is very beautiful.
> And way too much to see for just two days.
> 
> German is not a problem for me.
> I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
> I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.
> 
> Deredere
> 
> 
> Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
>> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds 
>> some old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th 
>> century, one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting 
>> manuals. It's some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I 
>> don't really remember the dates these books were from and the language 
>> (though I think it was always German). But if you were interested, I could 
>> go and have a look. They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that 
>> the copyright is a big deal here, because the books have no living author 
>> any more (what a surprise) and all photocopies are to be used for study and 
>> non-commercial use.
>>
>> Zuzana
>>
>>  __
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
>> http://mail.yahoo.com 
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

Hi, 

I'm sending this to all in case someone else might be interested:

I finally got to copy some pages for you to see how approximately the books 
look, I found 4 useful ones, one from 1888, one from 1903, another from the 
beginning of the 20th century, but of an unknown exact date (1905-1910?), and 
one from 1911.
The 1900s books will probably produce patterns for the S-curve shape, whereas 
the 1888 book will probably still keep to the victorian (larger belly etc) 
shape. So you have to decide which book would be the best for you.

All books provide slopers and their modifications to various sorts of dresses 
and bodices,  the 1911 book discusses quite nicely the various body shapes 
(large bust, hips etc) and gives for each one a different sloper. All books 
also contain information on skirts, sleeves and some other garments.

I haven't studied them in detail, just glanced through, but I'd suggest the 
1888 one for the earlier periods and the 1911 one for the later; the 19?? book 
is also looking good and maybe simpler then the 1911 (easier to follow).

Here you can upload a pdf file with some pages:

http://www.2shared.com/file/3190351/d47aeee4/antique_books.html

just click on "Save file to your PC: click here" on the 
bottom. The file's too big to put on my small site.

Copying one A4 page costs about $0,16. The books usually have about 150-200 
pages. I could then send the copies to you by mail (could be expensive) or scan 
them - that would cost less, as I would keep the physical copies, which would 
be unfair - so we would kind of share, as I am also planning to have the books 
copied for myself.

I repeat that copying the books for study reasons in the library is officially 
allowed.  

So, if you or someone else's interested, tell me and we'll discuss the details.

Zuzana


Deredere Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish I knew that just a few 
day's earlier...
I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
It almost felt like a theme park.
But it is very beautiful.
And way too much to see for just two days.

German is not a problem for me.
I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.

Deredere


Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds some 
> old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th century, 
> one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting manuals. It's 
> some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I don't really 
> remember the dates these books were from and the language (though I think it 
> was always German). But if you were interested, I could go and have a look. 
> They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that the copyright is a big 
> deal here, because the books have no living author any more (what a surprise) 
> and all photocopies are to be used for study and non-commercial use.
>
> Zuzana
>
>  __
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> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com 
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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[JAMES OGILVIE]

>David Brown's current listing if for $90 plus shipping (usually $5.00).  
>You
>need this book.  Grab it before it goes out of print and availability
>completely.  It isn't going to get any cheaper to buy ...

Actually, all these great imported books are seeing price increases whenever 
the U.S. distributors have to order more copies because the dollar is way 
low compared to euros.

Janet


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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Helen Pinto]

Julie-

A new copy of _Moda a Firenze_ is $99.50US; a new copy of 
_Queen Elisabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd_ is $165.00US.  

Best price according to www.addall.com right now is is $93.50US 
at Amazon, with free shipping for Moda, and the best deals on 
QEWU are from the UK, with Amazon UK at $158.74, including 
air mail shipping.  

Good luck book hunting.

   -Helen/Aidan

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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Wanda Pease]

>
> David Brown Book Company/Oxbow Books carries it too. I can't remember
> what they're currently charging.
>
> www.oxbowbooks.com
>
> Arlys
>

David Brown's current listing if for $90 plus shipping (usually $5.00).  You
need this book.  Grab it before it goes out of print and availability
completely.  It isn't going to get any cheaper to buy and borrowing it from
the library, assuming you can get it at all is not the same.  The museum is
completely bemused at the way the book has been snapped up and not really
ready for mass printings.

Wanda
>

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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Bella]

Amazon.com has it for $99.50 with free shipping to a US address. And yes, I am 
an Amazon associate and if you buy through the link below I will earn a couple 
of dollars towards the costs of running my website. :-)

http://tinyurl.com/574xfy

 
Bella
The Realm of Venus
http://realmofvenus.net


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Subject: [h-cost] book lust 

I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming
book) at a Ren Faire this weekend.  I was all set to add it to my collection
but was shocked at the price.  The last time I looked it was going for about
$80 U.S.  Yesterday it was priced at $148.

Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two?  Is there another
less costly vendor?

BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd
going for now?

Thanks
Julie in San Diego


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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Sharon Collier]

I got one used from Amazon Canada for under $100, if I remember correctly. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Julie
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] book lust 

I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming
book) at a Ren Faire this weekend.  I was all set to add it to my collection
but was shocked at the price.  The last time I looked it was going for about
$80 U.S.  Yesterday it was priced at $148.

Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two?  Is there another
less costly vendor?

BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd
going for now?

Thanks
Julie in San Diego
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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Cynthia J Ley]

David Brown Book Company/Oxbow Books carries it too. I can't remember
what they're currently charging.

www.oxbowbooks.com

Arlys

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:11:42 -0400 monica spence
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ouch! Try Michael Shemansky Bookseller (online) for MdF. He usually 
> includes
> shipping in his prices, I think. It is about $100 for the book and 
> it was in
> his mostt recent catalogue. He KNOWS about us costumers. I told him 
> of the
> book's popularity when he questioned me why so many people were 
> asking about
> it.
> 
> I plan to read it --again-- before the Janet Arnold Costume 
> Collequium in
> Florence in November.
> 
> QEWU is about $250 the last time I saw it advertised anywhere. Thet 
> is a lot
> more scarce.
> 
> Monica
> in NYC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Julie
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [h-cost] book lust 
> 
> 
> I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance 
> costuming
> book) at a Ren Faire this weekend.  I was all set to add it to my 
> collection
> but was shocked at the price.  The last time I looked it was going 
> for about
> $80 U.S.  Yesterday it was priced at $148.
> 
> Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two?  Is there 
> another
> less costly vendor?
> 
> BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe 
> Unlock'd
> going for now?
> 
> Thanks
> Julie in San Diego
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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Chris Laning]

Julie wrote:
>I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming book) 
>at 
>a Ren Faire this weekend.  I was all set to add it to my collection but was 
>shocked at the price.  The last time I looked it was going for about $80 U.S.  
>\>Yesterday it was priced at $148.
>
>Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two?  
>Is there another less costly vendor?

IIRC, what's out there now is a 2nd printing. Publishers seem to feel quite 
free to jack the price up when something is much more popular than they 
expected (as I think this was, and this definitely happened with QEWU) and they 
go into another printing when they didn't originally expect to.

(To be fair, this may also have to do with having to gear up the press again, 
which may have gotten more expensive to run in the meantime, perhaps having to 
re-create some of the production files if they didn't save them, the increasing 
price of paper and so forth. It's not *just* the temptation of more profits...)


0  Chris Laning
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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

http://www.poisonpenpress.com/costume.html

$99:-))

Zuzana


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Re: [h-cost] book lust

[monica spence]

Ouch! Try Michael Shemansky Bookseller (online) for MdF. He usually includes
shipping in his prices, I think. It is about $100 for the book and it was in
his mostt recent catalogue. He KNOWS about us costumers. I told him of the
book's popularity when he questioned me why so many people were asking about
it.

I plan to read it --again-- before the Janet Arnold Costume Collequium in
Florence in November.

QEWU is about $250 the last time I saw it advertised anywhere. Thet is a lot
more scarce.

Monica
in NYC

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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM
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Subject: [h-cost] book lust 


I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming
book) at a Ren Faire this weekend.  I was all set to add it to my collection
but was shocked at the price.  The last time I looked it was going for about
$80 U.S.  Yesterday it was priced at $148.

Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two?  Is there another
less costly vendor?

BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd
going for now?

Thanks
Julie in San Diego
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[h-cost] book lust

[Julie]

I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming book) 
at a Ren Faire this weekend.  I was all set to add it to my collection but was 
shocked at the price.  The last time I looked it was going for about $80 U.S.  
Yesterday it was priced at $148.

Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two?  Is there another less 
costly vendor?

BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd going 
for now?

Thanks
Julie in San Diego
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895/Prague

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

Ok, I'll go and have a look as soon as I get there:-)

What a pity you missed that! I'm quite sure you'd find some interesting books 
there. Well, too late now. Just a message to all others: if you ever get to 
Prague, don't forget to visit this library! I'll be glad to help you all with 
finding it:-)

Zuzana

Deredere Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish I knew that just a few 
day's earlier...
I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
It almost felt like a theme park.
But it is very beautiful.
And way too much to see for just two days.

German is not a problem for me.
I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.

Deredere


Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds some 
> old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th century, 
> one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting manuals. It's 
> some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I don't really 
> remember the dates these books were from and the language (though I think it 
> was always German). But if you were interested, I could go and have a look. 
> They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that the copyright is a big 
> deal here, because the books have no living author any more (what a surprise) 
> and all photocopies are to be used for study and non-commercial use.
>
> Zuzana
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Deredere Galbraith]

I wish I knew that just a few day's earlier...
I just got back from Prague. But missed the museum
What a tourist place, even Amsterdam isn't as touristic as Prague.
It almost felt like a theme park.
But it is very beautiful.
And way too much to see for just two days.

German is not a problem for me.
I'll be interested in any 1895 patterns.
I would be very happy if you would want to look and copy some things for me.

Deredere


Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds some 
> old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th century, 
> one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting manuals. It's 
> some time ago that I've searched these books through, so I don't really 
> remember the dates these books were from and the language (though I think it 
> was always German). But if you were interested, I could go and have a look. 
> They photocopy any books you like. I don't think that the copyright is a big 
> deal here, because the books have no living author any more (what a surprise) 
> and all photocopies are to be used for study and non-commercial use.
>
> Zuzana
>
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

In the museum of decorative arts in Prague there is a library that holds some 
old fashion books, and there are also a few from the end of the 19th century, 
one or two, I don't remember exactly, are very good drafting manuals. It's some 
time ago that I've searched these books through, so I don't really remember the 
dates these books were from and the language (though I think it was always 
German). But if you were interested, I could go and have a look. They photocopy 
any books you like. I don't think that the copyright is a big deal here, 
because the books have no living author any more (what a surprise) and all 
photocopies are to be used for study and non-commercial use.

Zuzana

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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Lavolta Press]

During the 19th and early 20th century dozens of pattern-making 
"systems" were invented. They fall into a number of different categories.

One category was drafting to English/inch measurements or in Europe, to 
metric measurements. The "Keystone" system falls into this category. 
Robb Shep and Fred Struthers, at http://www.rlshep.com/, have reprinted 
a number of books containing patterns to be drafted to English measurements.

Another category was apportioning scales. These were sets of rulers with 
units specific to that system--not English or metric units. We have 
reprinted four books that use apportioning scales; our website is 
www.lavoltapress.com. Apportioning scales are described and pictured in 
the FAQ for the site.

A third category was slopers that could be traced off to different 
sizes. Then patterns were developed using flat pattern design methods. 
Cardboard slopers were called charts. These have lines and perforations 
for each pattern piece that enable it to be traced off to the chosen 
size. A variant was a sloper with pattern pieces made of strips of 
metal, with screws that enable them to be adjusted to different sizes. 
The best known of these in the US was the McDowell Garment Drafting 
System. I do not know of anyone who has reprinted charts or reproduced 
the metal systems, but they are often sold on the US eBay site, 
www.eBay.com.

Huge leg-of-mutton sleeves can be very flattering, they make the waist 
look small. Your actual shoulders are lost in them anyway.

Fran
Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming
http://www.lavoltapress.com

Deredere Galbraith wrote:
> I am studying the Danckaerts system to draw patterns and my teacher 
> asked me to make a dress from the time she invented the method.
> She and her husband created the system in 1895.
> I never made anything from this period before.
> 
> I found a book The "keystone" jacket and dress cutter
> an 1895 guide to womans tailoring.
> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51S7Q2XQNNL.jpg
> 
> Has anyone experience with this book?
> 
> Are there any other books that are interesting for this time?
> I have the cut of women's clothes
> victorian and edwardian fashions from "la mode illustree"
> 
> I don't think those balloon shaped sleeves will look very well on me :-\ .
> I have brought shoulders from myself...
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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[AlbertCat]

 
In a message dated 4/7/2008 1:14:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I don't  think those balloon shaped sleeves will look very well on me :-\  .



**
 
Leg-o-mutton sleeves come in all shapes and sizes. Not everyone wore huge  
billowy one. And unlike the earlier 1830's version [Gigot sleeves] height seems 
 
to be more important than width. In the 1830s the sleeves come from a low, a 
bit  off the shoulder armseye, so the emphasis is more "out". In the 1890s the 
 armseye is firmly on the shoulder and the emphasis  is more "up". This  can 
be achieved by raising the curve of the top of the sleeve head higher  than 
wider, and making any ruffles or padding that might be used to hold its  shape 
push up.
 
With a ruffle at the neck and down the front of the corseted bodice,  and a 
trumpet skirt [often stiff in this period] that fits the hips but  flares 
sufficiently to counter the sleeves, you will look  great.



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Re: [h-cost] Book question 1895

[Rickard, Patty]

Period Costume for Stage and Screen: Patterns for Women's Dress 1800 -
1909 by  Jean-Hunnisett might help.

Patty

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She and her husband created the system in 1895.
I never made anything from this period before.

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[h-cost] Book question 1895

[Deredere Galbraith]

I am studying the Danckaerts system to draw patterns and my teacher 
asked me to make a dress from the time she invented the method.
She and her husband created the system in 1895.
I never made anything from this period before.

I found a book The "keystone" jacket and dress cutter
an 1895 guide to womans tailoring.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51S7Q2XQNNL.jpg

Has anyone experience with this book?

Are there any other books that are interesting for this time?
I have the cut of women's clothes
victorian and edwardian fashions from "la mode illustree"

I don't think those balloon shaped sleeves will look very well on me :-\ .
I have brought shoulders from myself...


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Re: [h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"

[Suzanne]

Hey, I never told you to BUY the book!  ;-)  That's what Inter- 
Library Loan is for


Suzanne


From: "Wanda Pease" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: March 9, 2008 9:40:15 PM CDT
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"
Reply-To: Historical Costume 


I have one word for you: Enabler!!

Book is for Sale on Amazon for a mere (!) $54.00.

Regina


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Behalf Of Suzanne
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:17 AM
To: h-costume
Subject: [h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"


I want to share my enthusiasm for a big, lovely, art book that I
found at the library.

"Prayers and Portraits: unfolding the Netherlandish diptych"



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Re: [h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"

[Sharon Zakhour]

Yes, it's a good price, but it's out of stock.  :-)

Bianca

Wanda Pease wrote:
I have one word for you: Enabler!!  


Book is for Sale on Amazon for a mere (!) $54.00.

Regina
  

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RE: [h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"

[Wanda Pease]

I have one word for you: Enabler!!  

Book is for Sale on Amazon for a mere (!) $54.00.

Regina

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Suzanne
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:17 AM
> To: h-costume
> Subject: [h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"
> 
> 
> I want to share my enthusiasm for a big, lovely, art book that I  
> found at the library.
> 
> "Prayers and Portraits: unfolding the Netherlandish diptych" 
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[h-cost] book: "Prayers and Portraits"

[Suzanne]

I want to share my enthusiasm for a big, lovely, art book that I  
found at the library.


"Prayers and Portraits: unfolding the Netherlandish diptych" was  
published in 2006 in conjunction with an exhibition of the same name,  
prepared by the National Gallery of Art in Washington and the  
Koninklijk Museum voor Schone Kunsten in Antwerp, in association with  
Harvard University Art Museums.  Authors are John Oliver Hand,  
Catherine A. Metzger, and Ron Spronk.  From the opening paragraph of  
the foreword, to the final paragraph of the acknowledgments on p.  
275, this book is an armchair art history seminar of the Low  
Countries in the 15th & 16th centuries and a delight to read.  Every  
work is discussed in terms of who made it, for whom, when, and what  
some of the symbols are [or may be, if there's no consensus] -- and  
while that's the part that contributed to my personal education, the  
really cool part is that each work is also represented by good color  
reproductions of the whole work and details thereof -- pages and  
pages of STUFF.


This book is a treasure trove of household furnishing and dress  
details.  Carpets, candles, books, vases, scissors...!  Slippers,  
smocks, rosaries, rings, purses...!  I can't take it all in, in one  
sitting.  And I really want to know:  are those frog closures on St.  
Paul's coat (on p. 131), or just a rendition of ladder lacing?  ;-)   
(Painted in the first half of the 16th century, it reminds me a bit  
of the "Polish" fastenings of some Elizabethan doublets.)


Anyway, I highly recommend this work for students of material culture  
as well as art history students.  It's big -- it's hard to carry home  
in a standard-size briefcase -- and it's going to be even more  
difficult to return because it's so beautiful it'll hurt to give it  
up.  :-)  And there's an awesome bibliography, too, which has had me  
pounding out ILL requests all morning.


Enjoy!
Suzanne

p.s.  ISBN 0-300-12155-5, 339 p., published by the National Gallery  
of Art (Washington) in association with Yale University Press.


p.p.s  I know someone will ask, so here's the quote from the  
Foreword:  "In the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries master artists  
such as Jan van Eyck, Rogier van der Weyden, and Hugo van der Goes-- 
working in the territory that includes present-day Belgium, The  
Netherlands, Luxembourg, and portions of France--produced some of the  
most beautiful and intriguing paintings of the period.  The  
significance of this region at the time far outstripped its  
relatively small size, for its cities constituted vital hubs for  
commerce and banking, major sources of fine art and luxury items, and  
dynamic centers for a burgeoning art market.  One popular art form  
was the Netherlandish diptych, comprising two panels hinged together  
like a book, on which the painted images assumed a compelling  
relationship to one another as a result of their pairing. ..."   And  
the final line of the Acknowledgments:  "Finally, we express  
heartfelt thanks to Dare Hartwell, Beth Miller, and Karma Tomm, who  
on many occasions saved us from becoming totally unhinged."


 
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[h-cost] Book: Ancient Textiles

[Beth and Bob Matney]

I received my copy from DBBC this week of

Gillis, Carole (ed.) & Nosch, Marie-Louise (ed.) Ancient Textiles 
Production, Crafts and Society. United States: Oxbow Books/David 
Brown Book Co, 2007.  ISBN 1842172026

from the conference http://www3.lu.se/klass/textiles/crossdisciplinary.html

The book contains a large number of papers covering a WIDE time 
period: from the earliest prehistory up to the 18th C. Three papers 
were of particular interest to me:
1) "Textile Tools and Production during the Viking Age" by 
Eva B. Andersson had a nice table containing the elements of Viking 
costume for men and woment giving the weight of textile for each and 
weaving technique. This estimate is from the reconstruction done in 
Lejre and is based on the Haithabu/Hedeby finds.
2) "Textile Production in Proto-historic Italy: from 
Specialists to Workshops" by Margarita Gleba has some nice 
information on the weaving of tablet borders and a nice illustration 
of a method using warp-weighted tablets.
3)  "Woolen Textiles in Archaeological Finds and 
Descriptions in Written Sources of the 14th to 18th Centuries" by 
Kaus Tidow and Eva Jordan-Fahrbach


Please be aware that the Appendix is also available separately as:
Gillis, Carole, and Marie-Louise Nosch. First Aid for the Excavation 
of Archaeological Textiles. [Denmark]: Danish National Research 
Foundation's Centre for Textile Research, 2007. ISBN:9781842172230 
1842172239  OCLC:154660493


Beth 


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Re: [h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!

[Melanie Schuessler]

It does!

Thanks so much,
Melanie


On Oct 23, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Beth and Bob Matney wrote:


I haven't found a full list but these are in it:

<...>
Hope this helps,
Beth



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Re: [h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!

[Beth and Bob Matney]

I haven't found a full list but these are in it:

Ulla Mannering with L. Ræder Knudsen,
A Danish Early Germanic Iron Age Grave with Tablet Woven Cuffs
Margarita Gleba with J.M. Turfa,
Digging for archaeological textiles in 
museums: ‘New’ finds in the University of 
Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology

Eva Andersson,
Engendering Central Places, some aspects 
of the organisation of textile production during the Viking Age.

Linda Mårtensson,
Toolmakers? – On the production of tools 
for making and treating textiles during the Viking Age.

Heini Kirjavainen,
Some Finnish late Iron Age and Medieval 
Twill Weaves from the 11th to the 15th century.


Hope this helps,
Beth


Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:23:22 -0400
From: Melanie Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is there a table of contents somewhere online?

Thanks,
Melanie Schuessler


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Re: [h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!

[Melanie Schuessler]

Is there a table of contents somewhere online?

Thanks,
Melanie Schuessler


On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Beth and Bob Matney wrote:

I know that a few of you are interested in the NESAT (Northern  
European Society for Archaeological Textiles) Volume 9 is now  
available for order.


http://www.archeotex.ch/aktuell.html

I have ordered mine from the Swiss online bookseller.. but given  
the way the post usually works, you will probably get yours before  
I do. The price is 48 CHF (Swiss Francs) plus shipping.


Beth
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[h-cost] Book: NESAT 9 is out!

[Beth and Bob Matney]

I know that a few of you are interested in the NESAT (Northern 
European Society for Archaeological Textiles) Volume 9 is now 
available for order.


http://www.archeotex.ch/aktuell.html

I have ordered mine from the Swiss online bookseller.. but given the 
way the post usually works, you will probably get yours before I do. 
The price is 48 CHF (Swiss Francs) plus shipping.


Beth  


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[h-cost] book: Henry VIII costume

[Beth and Bob Matney]

Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII by Maria Hayward Paperback 
ISBN: 1905981414 Pub. Date: October 28, 2007

http://www.maney.co.uk/search?fwaction=show&fwid=766

I had an email from Janet Hague (Maney Publishers) today. She says 
that this is now published and available. Since the hardcover is a 
bit expensive, I ordered the paper from Barnes and Noble (best price 
I could find).

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?r=1&EAN=1905981414

Beth 


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Re: [h-cost] Book Order

[REBECCA BURCH]

I'm stuck with B&N because I'm using a gift card from
my in-laws. I guess I'll just do the 30 day order
extention and wait it out.

But thanks for the offer.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi, 
> I had the same problem when I tried to order it from
> amazon .com uk. I was ordering it from them because
> at the time it was cheaper. It was also at the time
> when the book was just released. Other vendors have
> it on their website and you can order it from the
> authors, also. If you want I can post the other
> sites that have it.
> 
> Catharine
> 
> 
> -- Original message from REBECCA BURCH
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- 
> 
> 
> > I just got my third "order delay" message from
> Barnes 
> > and Noble regarding my order for The Tudor Tailor.
> Has 
> > anybody else had trouble receiving this book?
> Should I 
> > just try a different vendor? 
> > 
> > Thanks for any input. 
> > 
> > Rebecca Burch 
> > Center Valley Farm 
> > Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA 
> > 
> > The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the
> ones between the flat folds and 
> > the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- 
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Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA

The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and 
the brocades.  --Anonymous Costumer--
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Re: [h-cost] Book Order

[margaret]

If you want to go with another vendor, you might check with Devra Langsam at 
Poison Pen Press www.poisonpenpress.com .  No discount, but she handles a 
wide range of medieval and Renaissance costuming books and The Tudor Tailor 
appears to be in stock.


Bear



I just got my third "order delay" message from Barnes
and Noble regarding my order for The Tudor Tailor. Has
anybody else had trouble receiving this book? Should I
just try a different vendor?

Thanks for any input.

Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA


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Re: [h-cost] Book Order

[Saragrace Knauf]

You might want to let the authors know about the problems you are having. 
They are really quite personable and very willing to help out.

Sg 

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Re: [h-cost] Book Order

[scarlettday]

Hi, 
I had the same problem when I tried to order it from amazon .com uk. I was 
ordering it from them because at the time it was cheaper. It was also at the 
time when the book was just released. Other vendors have it on their website 
and you can order it from the authors, also. If you want I can post the other 
sites that have it.

Catharine


-- Original message from REBECCA BURCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
-- 


> I just got my third "order delay" message from Barnes 
> and Noble regarding my order for The Tudor Tailor. Has 
> anybody else had trouble receiving this book? Should I 
> just try a different vendor? 
> 
> Thanks for any input. 
> 
> Rebecca Burch 
> Center Valley Farm 
> Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA 
> 
> The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds 
> and 
> the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- 
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> h-costume@mail.indra.com 
> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 
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[h-cost] Book Order

[REBECCA BURCH]

I just got my third "order delay" message from Barnes
and Noble regarding my order for The Tudor Tailor. Has
anybody else had trouble receiving this book? Should I
just try a different vendor?

Thanks for any input.

Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA

The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and 
the brocades.  --Anonymous Costumer--
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Re: [h-cost] Book!

[Andrew T Trembley]

On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Saragrace Knauf wrote:
Also I read elsewhere that at one time it was sold by the Kyoto  
Costume Museum...maybe you could try there?


It's not currently in the Kyoto Costume Museum online shop.

andy

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Re: [h-cost] Book!

[Catherine Olanich Raymond]

On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Andrew T Trembley wrote:
> So I've been told about what is essentially the holy grail of
> Japanese Historical costume books:
> "Jidai Issho no Nuikata" (ISBN: 4773984058)
>  を中心とした日本伝統衣服の構成技法-栗原-弘/dp/
> 4773984058/ref=sr_11_1/503-4426301-8840760?
> ie=UTF8&qid=1188256160&sr=11-1>
>
> I probably can figure out the patterns without reading Japanese, but
> I can't figure out the cost or whether it's available. Anybody read
> enough Japanese to check out the Amazon.co.jp webpage and tell me if
> it's worth it to figure out how to buy the thing?

This page has a link which takes you to amazon.co.jp's home page.  Plug the 
ISBN into the search box to go to the page for the book.  On that page, 
there's a box that says "would you like to see this page in English?"  
Clicking that box doesn't translate the title information, but it translates 
most of the rest of the page, including the part that says that the book is 
not presently available.  There is a box you can click to get an e-mail from 
Amazon.jp when/if the item becomes available.  Good luck!


-- 
Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information 
available."-- Gregory Benford

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Re: [h-cost] Book!

[Saragrace Knauf]

Why don't you just write Amazon.jp?  I'd bet someone there speaks English.  
Also I read elsewhere that at one time it was sold by the Kyoto Costume 
Museum...maybe you could try there?

Sg
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew T Trembley<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Historical Costume<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:47 PM
  Subject: [h-cost] Book!


  So I've been told about what is essentially the holy grail of  
  Japanese Historical costume books:
  "Jidai Issho no Nuikata" (ISBN: 4773984058)
  <http://www.amazon.co.jp/<http://www.amazon.co.jp/>時代衣裳の縫い方-改訂―復元品 
  を中心とした日本伝統衣服の構成技法-栗原-弘/dp/ 
  4773984058/ref=sr_11_1/503-4426301-8840760? 
  ie=UTF8&qid=1188256160&sr=11-1>
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Re: [h-cost] Book!

[Catrijn vanden Westhende]

On 8/28/07, Andrew T Trembley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I've been told about what is essentially the holy grail of
> Japanese Historical costume books:
> "Jidai Issho no Nuikata" (ISBN: 4773984058)
>  を中心とした日本伝統衣服の構成技法-栗原-弘/dp/
> 4773984058/ref=sr_11_1/503-4426301-8840760?
> ie=UTF8&qid=1188256160&sr=11-1>
>
> I probably can figure out the patterns without reading Japanese, but
> I can't figure out the cost or whether it's available. Anybody read
> enough Japanese to check out the Amazon.co.jp webpage and tell me if
> it's worth it to figure out how to buy the thing?

It is not available.  There's a option to sign up to be notified by
e-mail if/when it becomes available.  Usually that set-up is for
things that haven't been published yet, but since it was published in
1990, it more likely means that it is completely out of print.  I
wouldn't bother signing up unless you have reason to expect another
printing run.

- Catrijn
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[h-cost] Book!

[Andrew T Trembley]

So I've been told about what is essentially the holy grail of  
Japanese Historical costume books:

"Jidai Issho no Nuikata" (ISBN: 4773984058)



I probably can figure out the patterns without reading Japanese, but  
I can't figure out the cost or whether it's available. Anybody read  
enough Japanese to check out the Amazon.co.jp webpage and tell me if  
it's worth it to figure out how to buy the thing?


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Re: [h-cost] Book: The Development of Costume, Naomi Tarrant

[Beth and Bob Matney]

I have a copy, but it's been several years since I read it.

Beth

At 01:01 PM 8/6/2007, you wrote:

Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:30:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Chiara Francesca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The Development of Costume, Naomi Tarrant is a book I am thinking of
purchasing but it is over 40.00 where I am looking at before the
discount.

Does anyone have this book? What do you think of her viewpoints
since she is actually working with the garments instead of the
theory of the garment?

Chiara


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[h-cost] Book: The Development of Costume, Naomi Tarrant

[Chiara Francesca]

The Development of Costume, Naomi Tarrant is a book I am thinking of
purchasing but it is over 40.00 where I am looking at before the
discount.

Does anyone have this book? What do you think of her viewpoints
since she is actually working with the garments instead of the
theory of the garment?

Chiara

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RE: [h-cost] Book search?

[A. Thurman]

Thanks for posting this - I was under the impression that they were
never published, and I had my eye on several of these. Thanks!

Allison T.

On 7/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:33:57 -0500
> From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [h-cost] Book search?
> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
>
> http://www.allbookstores.com/author/Daniela_Turudich.html
>
> Amazon no longer carries it.
>
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Re: [h-cost] Book search?

[Suzi Clarke]

At 19:34 31/07/2007, you wrote:
Last I heard, the right's to the books publication was in limbo 
because the original publisher went under


On another hand, I just read a review  of The Artifice of Beauty 
(Tournaments Illuminated Issue 163) which looks promising for some 
similar material.  The reviewer says this among other 
things.  "Others, such as the utility of pomade for the hair or that 
bathing and washing were done with some regularity in pre-modern 
periods, may explode some cherished myths."


http://tinyurl.com/2wnwfu


I have this book, and it is great - very up to date research, and 
some interesting recipes. And Sally is a really nice person - makes 
plague rats for my cat (and others) to kill!!


Suzi

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Re: [h-cost] Book search?

[Saragrace Knauf]

Last I heard, the right's to the books publication was in limbo because the 
original publisher went under

On another hand, I just read a review  of The Artifice of Beauty (Tournaments 
Illuminated Issue 163) which looks promising for some similar material.  The 
reviewer says this among other things.  "Others, such as the utility of pomade 
for the hair or that bathing and washing were done with some regularity in 
pre-modern periods, may explode some cherished myths."

http://tinyurl.com/2wnwfu



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RE: [h-cost] Book search?

[otsisto]

http://www.fetchbook.info/fwd_description/search_9781930064089.html
Alleged to have come out in 2003 others say 2004.
But you may be correct for when I scrolled down the with the first posted
url it said "can't find the book with any of their members."
The above url gives the impression that they may have it but don't hold your
breath.

De

-Original Message-
Suzi Clarke wrote:
>
> A friend of mine is looking for the following book. Any ideas? She is
> in the U.K. so Library searches in the U.K. are preferable, but she
> would actually like to buy a copy.
>
> Plucked, Shaved & Braided: Medieval and Renaissance Beauty and
> Grooming Practices 1000-1600
Hmm, my first reply bounced...

The book was never published, as I recall, from posts on this list about
it.  You might find more details by searching the archives.  It's a
pity; many people here wanted to read it!

cv


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